Open Thread – Thurs 3 Oct 2024


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Salvatore - Iron Publican
October 3, 2024 12:52 am

Crikey, where is everybody?

KevinM
KevinM
October 3, 2024 1:04 am

I thought it was only the 3rd of Oct, not the 10th?
Don’t rush the days, they go fast enough as is.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 1:13 am

I’m here

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 3, 2024 1:51 am

Damn insomnia!

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 3, 2024 2:07 am

Beautiful painting Dover.

KevinM
KevinM
October 3, 2024 2:19 am

Unlucky enough?
Be careful.
There soon follows your house and car and what have you.
(All swallowed up.)

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KevinM
KevinM
October 3, 2024 2:20 am

Difference between politicians and citizens.

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Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 3, 2024 2:22 am

Yet another disgraceful saga in the sh1thole that is Sicktoria.

From the Oz.

Damon Johnston
Lawyer X in court: Nicola Gobbo returns to haunt Victoria Police
A voice from Victoria Police’s darkest past has returned to haunt the force.

Somewhat fittingly, that voice was heard loud and clear (aside from some technical issues) in a wood-panelled court in the old High Court Building in the heart of Melbourne’s legal world.
The disembodied voice, of course, belonged to Nicola Gobbo; equally well known as Lawyer X, the gangland barrister turned police spy who became the notorious star of the greatest legal scandal in the history of Victoria.

Only Justice Melinda Richards and the trial lawyers could see Gobbo, who appeared via video link. Fears for her safety, and to keep her surgically altered appearance secret, meant everyone else in Court 3 could only hear what the former gangland barrister had to say in her pursuit of millions of dollars in taxpayer-funded damages from police.

After a quick overview of her teenage years as a somewhat awkward and underperforming schoolgirl who did odd jobs, including a paper round, working at Pizza Hut and the MCG, Gobbo told of her miraculous Year 12 results that allowed her to get a first-round offer into law at the prestigious University of Melbourne. 

She didn’t go out much as a high school student, but this changed in her later teen years, and at one point a close friend became obsessed with a Collingwood footballer – Gobbo likened it to “stalking” – and they would go clubbing wherever he was.

She recalled her first serious boyfriend, a relationship that led to her arrest in the early 1990s on drugs charges. She was slapped with a good behaviour bond without conviction. But she told the court she had learned a “salutary lesson”.

From there, the court was taken on a whirlwind trip through her early legal career and her turbocharged rise to being a barrister representing the biggest names in Melbourne’s savage gang war that would claim about 30 lives.

All the big names got a mention; Tony Mokbel, Carl Williams, Andrew ‘Benji’ Veniamin and Lewis Moran among them in what was like a true-crime podcast for those of us who couldn’t see Gobbo.

As entertaining as this evidence was (including what she said was a casual sexual relationship with a police officer), much of Wednesday’s evidence was really little more than a sideshow to the serious business this court case will have to deal with: the actions of senior serving and former police officers who recruited Gobbo to spy on her clients.

As Australia’s High Court found, Gobbo’s conduct was a “fundamental and appalling” breach, while police engaged in “reprehensible conduct in knowingly encouraging her” and “atrocious breaches of the sworn duties imposed on every police officer”.

It’s unfortunate it is taking a civil action from one of the guilty parties to the Lawyer?X scandal to revisit secrets that must be exposed. Ideally, this would have spun out of criminal trials of Gobbo and police commanders. But in an oh-so-Victorian twist, the Office of the Special Investigator was abolished after the Office of Public Prosecutions refused to charge anyone.
It’s worth remembering that despite a bill of more than $125m and a decade of probes, not a single police officer was charged with an offence. In fact, several remain in their top jobs. This lack of action is as big an outrage as the original decision to recruit Gobbo

Gobbo has already pocketed almost $3m in compensation from Victorian taxpayers, paid in 2010. Now, she’s come back for more – a lot more. 

The prospect of Gobbo of pocketing millions from taxpayers for a scandal she helped create is galling. But if it finally holds Victoria Police accountable for their actions, then maybe it’s a price that has to be paid.

KevinM
KevinM
October 3, 2024 2:25 am

Children enjoyed life even in the USSR, not knowing any better.
So did we, come to think of it. You don’t miss what you know naught about.

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KevinM
KevinM
October 3, 2024 2:37 am

Mak Siccar
October 3, 2024 2:22 am

Yet another disgraceful saga in the sh1thole that is Sicktoria.

Gobbo has already pocketed almost $3m in compensation from Victorian taxpayers, paid in 2010. Now, she’s come back for more – a lot more.

That was a decade ago and even then it wasn’t a lot of money for someone accustomed to the high life, like Gobbo.

If it takes this action to get facts into the open and punish all guilty parties, then so be it.
Not excusing her by any means, but without the police instigating it in the first place, none of this would’ve happened.

The bigger and more important question is; what else were they up to that we don’t know about?

John H.
John H.
October 3, 2024 2:44 am

A life-expanding drug has been discovered which could change how we age (msn.com)

A rare example of something that might work. There are other ways to boost the processes mentioned in the article but I presume the drug is much more potent in that regard. I’ll never know because … .

The study is behind a paywall. Oh look for 475USD we can purchase the whole issue but only for a limited time or pay 61USD for 48 hours access for the article. Sadly Sci-Hub seems to be on the fritz.

John H.
John H.
October 3, 2024 2:48 am

I was feeling tired and then one simple health test saved my life (msn.com)

An example of why managing blood pressure is so important. High BP drives atherosclerosis, can cause heart attacks, heart failure, kidney disease, stroke, and retinopathy.

KevinM
KevinM
October 3, 2024 3:47 am

JD Vance v Tim Walz in VP Debate

Someone here yesterday categorically stated that T Walz was a clear winner in the debate.

I didn’t watch it and not going to, but I have read a couple of reviews by people whose judgment I trust, one M Steyn and also Townhall for example and they are of a different opinion.

JD could’ve done better but has done enough

Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 4:07 am
damon
damon
October 3, 2024 4:54 am

Up early – taking the dog to the vet.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 3, 2024 5:05 am

Fricken rooster across the river is set to BMNT.
Raygun gets a 15 minutes of fame extension.

LB2
LB2
October 3, 2024 6:06 am

More cost of living assistance from AnAl

just_curious
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 3, 2024 7:27 am

Is the Cat site down?

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Pogria
Pogria
October 3, 2024 7:31 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 3, 2024 7:33 am

Test

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2024 7:44 am

From the Daily Telegraph….

Pro-Palestine vigil to go ahead, regardless of court outcome
A planned pro-Palestinian vigil will go ahead this Monday for the anniversary of October 7, despite police applying to the NSW Supreme Court to stop the event.

Protest organiser Palestinian Action Group have said regardless of the court’s decision they will hold both a rally in the Sydney CBD on October 6 and a vigil on the Town Hall steps on October 7.

A celebration of the mass murder of Jews on our streets. Wow. That’s this country now, and all of this was brought to you by our Islamist toadying federal and state Labor governments.

I think Peter Dutton says it best..

“The fact that these anti-Jewish protest gatherings are being considered and organised at a time when the Jewish community will be commemorating the greatest loss of life since the Holocaust is an utterly sickening and vile reflection on these protesters,” he said.

“How low will they stoop?

“The fact this action has to even be contemplated emanates from the failure of leadership that we have seen in this country since the disgraceful Sydney Opera House protests on 9 October last year. Enough is enough.”

Of course, we all recall from not that long ago how our various august (sarcasm) state police forces were able to stamp/stomp on and shut down protests during Covid. But I suppose a leftist/Muslim rally to celebrate the mass murder of Jews is considered kosher, pardon the pun.

How’s that soshul coheshun going, Albo?

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2024 7:51 am

Accusations of domestic violence against Doug Emhoff.

Gotta laugh.

calli
calli
October 3, 2024 7:54 am

Walz and his stupid facial expressions reminded me of this guy.

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Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 8:08 am

Lebanese PM springs into action:

Calls for ceasefire and promises 10 000 troops to police a buffer zone.

Why didn’t he do so when Hezbollah started firing on Israel?

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Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 8:17 am

Microsoft has purchased one of the nuclear generators at Three Mile Island PA and will recommission it to power its AI systems on the east coast for the next 20 years.

Australia, meanwhile, is hoping to power a 21st C. economy with windmills, suntraps and reverse waterfalls.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 8:33 am

Senator Fatima Payman could launch political party in ‘matter of weeks’Alexi Demetriadi
16 hours ago.
Updated 2 minutes ago
188 comments

Former ALP senator Fatima Payman is to launch her own political party in a matter of weeks, compounding electoral woes for Anthony Albanese as an embattled Labor struggles to shore up Muslim support in its heartlands.
Rumours have swirled since the now independent West Australian representative broke from Labor over Palestine in July about her next move, and The Australian understands the senator’s then warning to “watch this space” would soon be put into political action.
Senator Payman and her new chief of staff, “preference whisperer” Glenn Druery, refused to comment when contacted on Wednesday, but political sources in WA believed the party could be launched and registered before November.
It is likely to extend outside of WA, running Senate candidates in each state and even contesting some select marginal lower house seats at the next federal election.
Rumours of an upcoming launch were circulating within ALP ranks and given Mr Druery’s involvement, any party and its campaign would likely work heavily to force preference deals.

It compounds electoral problems for Labor, which is struggling to please any one community, particularly the Muslim, as it attempts to fend off independents targeting its southwest Sydney heartlands and as pro-Palestine members turn to the Greens.
Senator Payman’s party will not be religious-based – she has said as such publicly since her ALP exit – and although she has ruled out any formal affiliation with both The Muslim Vote and Muslim Votes Matter campaigns, both are likely to support her party’s candidates.
The Australian understands the senator’s office has accelerated the building of the requisite party infrastructure since her return to WA after September’s sitting fortnight, with sources spotting Mr Druery at her state office across last week.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 8:47 am

I predict, particularly if there is more than one ‘muslim’ party Payman’s political ambitions will sink like a stone.
I bet she calls it the ‘Afghanistan Muslim Party for Afghanis and Muslims but not Hazara and not Shia Takfiri but also Token Indigenous Party’.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 8:52 am

Seems Qld now has 308,000 civil servants.
Last time I saw a number of was 220,000 around start of Covid.
I guess they need more as productivity gone down due to work from home.
Premier emailed them all saying should vote for him.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 3, 2024 8:58 am

Who’s up for a lukewarm cup of low T soy?

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 9:12 am

It compounds electoral problems for Labor, which is struggling to please any one community, particularly the Muslim…

Here’s a novel idea:

What about promoting the common good?

Still, there’s some schadenfreude to be had watching the chief sponsor of multikulti, the Australian Labor Party, being attacked by the monster it created.

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local oaf
October 3, 2024 9:20 am

Debate

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Arky
October 3, 2024 9:25 am

Trump on tariffs:

The word tariff to me is a very beautiful word, because it can save our country, truly.

And yet I think because of graft. Because of a lot of consulting payments. And other things given by other countries (he is talking about bribes here- Arky) We have so much fighting with politicians on using it.

I saved our steel industries (and those great, big beautiful iron ore freighters on the Great Lakes- Arky) by putting tariffs on steel that China came in and dumped.

And you know what they do? They dump and dump and dump and everyone goes out of business. Then they (The Chinese- Arky) buys those businesses very cheap and then they raise the prices to higher than they ever were.

If you want to sell your furniture in China, they won’t take it, but if you want to build your plant in China to make furniture using their labour, they take it. We’re doing the same thing, but a lot of people “Oh we don’t want to have tariffs”.

The country was at its richest point in its history in the 1890s. Because it was all tariffs. If you look at William McKinley as an example he was a big tariff president. They had committees put in charge of what to do with all the money, we were taking in so much money. And McKinley would say “Why should we let people come in and steal our factories and steal our workers and why shouldn’t we benefit”, and he tariffed other countries. And we made so much but then they went to the income tax system later.*

*Trump interview with Dave Ramsey, October 2024, Transcribed by Arky.

Trump hits on a number of things here that you have never in your lifetime heard a politician say. The history of tax. The fact that Republicans for most of history were FOR tariffs. Trump chose McKinley as an example, but he could have chosen from half a dozen Republican presidents. The history of swapping tariffs for other forms of taxation which was conflated with de-regulation in an extremely corrupt way. Trump is for radical deregulation, and low taxation, very low taxation. but also for tariffs.
Trump breaks the orthodoxy of the last forty five years. It’s very refreshing.

mem
mem
October 3, 2024 9:27 am

“Some participants are concerned home batteries and generators used to keep people on ventilators during power outages are not on the list.” Bill Shorten quoted in ABC article today.

Just shows how little confidence there is in the Bowen energy disaster providing reliable supply.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 3, 2024 9:29 am

Agree Arky. I never agreed with the tariff cuts here and the ideological destruction of Australian manufacturing.

cohenite
October 3, 2024 9:30 am

Nice painting. Those were the days; very elegant. My breakfast table has a plate of all bran, a lamb chop and a half finished affidavit with an egg stain on it.

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 9:30 am

Jewish group launches campaign against Greens ahead of Queensland election

McKenzie Scott, The Australian, 2 October, 2024

A grassroots Queensland Jewish group has accused the Greens of stoking anti-Semitism and hatred in the wake of the October 7 attacks in Israel, launching a billboard and letterbox campaign against the minor party in key seats ahead of the state election. The Australian can reveal the Queensland Jewish Collective has registered as a third party for the October 26 election, and has already raised more than $20,000 in community donations to fund 12,000 pamphlets and erect billboards in Brisbane electorates targeted by the Greens.

A first wave of advertisements compares the Greens protesting dams in the 1980s to today’s pro-Palestine movement, accusing the party of abandoning its core environmental message to support terror, indoctrinate children to hate, and undermine Australian values.

This week, the QJC will launch another series of billboards in partnership with the Australian Hindu Association and local Iranian community to take a stand for marginalised groups.

“They no longer stand for all minorities,” reads one of the QJC flyers. “They support our persecutors and terrorisers here and overseas. We’re putting them last.”

The collective is attempting to unseat Queensland’s first elected Greens MP, Michael Berkman, from the inner-west electorate of Maiwar, which he won in 2017, and is also targeting Moggill, held by the LNP’s Christian Rowan on a margin of 3.59 per cent, to blunt the Greens after it collected the overlapping federal seat of Ryan in the 2022 Brisbane “Greenslide”.

At the last Queensland election in 2020, the Greens held Mr Berkman’s seat and won a second, South Brisbane, ?after the LNP preferenced Amy MacMahon above Labor’s former deputy premier Jackie Trad.

One of the QJC’s three organisers Hava Mendelle said Queensland had become increasingly unsafe for Jewish Australians since October 7, and that danger had been exacerbated by Greens politicians appearing at pro-Palestine rallies.

“I’ve been living here for 25 years, and (being Jewish) was never something that I had to fear, because I knew that my government was behind me,” Ms Mendelle said.

“The rhetoric that has been coming out of the Greens, not just candidates, but the members, has been so one-sided with no nuance … it’s actually making Jews scared.

“Over the last 12 months, it has been so pro-hate and divisive that we couldn’t just sit here and not do anything.”

Ms Mendelle declined to appear in photographs for The Australian because of fears about her safety and that of her children.

She and non-Jewish organiser Joshu Turier have each voted for the Greens in the past but no longer feel they can.

“Many Jews in Brisbane actually vote for the Greens because we care about the environment, we care about social justice,” she said.

“But the Greens are not that party anymore.”

Mr Turier said he believed anti-Semitism had “absolutely corrupted” the Greens.

“If someone can show me another reason why there’s this obsessive focus on demonising Israeli actions, then I’m happy to consider it, but nobody’s been able to,” he said.

One of the figures in the new advertisement campaign, Hesam Orouji, said he moved to Australia eight years ago to live in a secular society for greater security. The Iran Novin Party member said he had to take a stand after being re-traumatised by people yelling anti-Semitic chants and carrying terrorist flags.

“I don’t know why they support this politics, which is against the Australian values and against humanity,” Mr Orouji said.

“I’m not in Iran anymore, but I can see same things happening here.”

Greens strategists say four suburban Labor-held seats could fall to the Greens: Cooper, McConnel, Greenslopes and Miller. The LNP seats of Clayfield and Moggill are also possible targets.

A Queensland Greens spokesman said the party “stands with Jewish people across the world who do not want to watch a genocide unfold, who want to see the hostages returned and want a ceasefire” and opposed anti-Semitism, Islamophobia and all forms of racism.

“Criticising the war crimes of the far-right extremist government of Israel is not anti-Semitic.”

On Wednesday, federal Greens MP Max Chandler-Mather emailed party members, accusing the QJC of being a front for right-wing lobby group Advance Australia, a charge the organisation denies, and asking for donations to fund its own counter-billboards.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 9:32 am

Dorinda Cox staff quit Greens senator’s office over toxic workplace claims
By James MassolaOctober 3, 2024 — 5.45am

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Twenty staff have left Greens WA senator Dorinda Cox’s office in just three years, with several lodging formal complaints alleging a hostile culture where employees felt unsafe.
Several former staffers who spoke to this masthead, including two who have gone public and eight on background, said complaints to party leader Adam Bandt’s office and the Parliamentary Workplace Support Service had failed to fix the problem.

This masthead has also obtained a copy of a formal complaint made by a former staff member to parliament’s workplace support service, which was also sent to Bandt, his deputy chief of staff and two Greens party officials in mid-2021.
It details several incidents of staff crying and becoming distressed after confrontations with Cox, a Yamatji-Noongar woman who became Greens First Nations spokesperson when Lidia Thorpe quit the party last year. One of these former staffers moved into Bandt’s office, while the other six named in the document have since quit.

“During my time working in the office, I witnessed and experienced disturbing behaviour by Dorinda Cox towards myself and other staff members. These experiences made me concerned for my safety and for the safety of others in the office,” the complaint states, adding “I spent much of the time feeling like I was walking on eggshells just waiting for Dorinda to explode at me”.
The staffer provided the report to this masthead on the proviso their name was not connected.
The complaint says: “It is also ironic that the Australian Greens are calling for integrity in government and the implementation of a Federal ICAC, and yet the most unsafe I have ever felt in my 20 years working life was while working in an Australian Greens Senatorial office.”
A draft of a second complaint was provided to this masthead by a staffer who sent many emails to the Parliamentary Workplace Support Service (PWSS) raising concerns about Cox. The staffer did not lodge the complaint and has since left the job.

The draft complaint states that Cox “would admit to me that she found it difficult to maintain decorum and would apologise for her overreactions to situations, promising to do better next time.
“But the behaviour would continue, often times becoming aggressive, persistently negative and sometimes vicious which ultimately resulted in my mental health declining to the point of having daily panic attacks, thoughts of suicide and an almost complete loss of self-esteem in my professional ability.
“I felt at the time that if I didn’t resign from my position that my mental health would deteriorate to such a state to require medical intervention in a hospital setting, something I articulated to the chief of staff in Adam Bandt’s office.”

‘She asked me to come and work for her and I had high hopes, but she is a bully.’

Aunty Esther Montgomery?

cohenite
October 3, 2024 9:36 am

Tampon tim and cackle’s hubbie, dougie, are the demorat face of acceptable masculinity. From dougie’s past, to go with the knocked up nannie:

Kamala Harris’ spouse Doug Emhoff smacked then-girlfriend for flirting with man in 2012, friends say – Washington Times

bons
bons
October 3, 2024 9:52 am

Many Jews in Brisbane actually vote for the Greens because we care about the environment, we care about social justice,” she said.

Words are inadequate.

Arky
October 3, 2024 9:57 am

During the Trump presidency the Great Lakes shipping companies began to buy, for the first times since the 1970s, new lake freighters. Ore boats to make the 1000km journey carrying iron ore and all types of US commodities on the lakes.
The ship yards produced once again, those beautiful boats.

https://greatlakesships.wordpress.com/mark-w-barker/

The Mark W. Barker was constructed in 2022 (Laid Down: June 23, 2020) by Fincantieri Bay Shipbuilding at Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin, as a self-unloading river-class bulk carrier for the Interlake Steamship Company. She was the first self-powered American freighter to be constructed for Great Lakes service in almost 40 years, the latest being the Columbia Star [American Century, 2006;] of 1981

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Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 9:58 am

…there’s some schadenfreude to be had watching the chief sponsor of multikulti, the Australian Labor Party, being attacked by the monster it created.

One wonders how many in the Labor Party realise the jig is up.

If present trends continue (e.g. their primary vote in NSW atm is 30%, a historic low) they’ll likely never form a majority government again.

Further, if Labor keeps moving left to accommodate this new reality, the de facto uniparty will likely split. The path to majority government will not be through inner city progressive seats but via the outer suburbs and regions.

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Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 3, 2024 10:02 am

A planned pro-Palestinian vigil will go ahead this Monday for the anniversary of October 7, despite police applying to the NSW Supreme Court to stop the event.

My 2c worth after COVID. Cops can stop anything they want with midnight knocks, sham charges that are dropped before hearing or even brute force.

I remain to be convinced otherwise all they will do is act as spectators/guides these terror supporting trash further cementing their 2 teir credentials.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2024 10:04 am

This is a great remaster. I’ve heard this song plenty of times in movies but never knew what they looked like until about ten minutes ago.

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Stereo Remix by MixerRog / Original video edited and AI remastered with HQ stereo sound.
“For What It’s Worth (Stop, Hey What’s That Sound)” (often referred to as simply “For What It’s Worth”) is a song written by Stephen Stills. Performed by Buffalo Springfield, it was recorded on December 5, 1966, released as a single on Atco Records in December 1966 and peaked at No. 7 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart in the spring of 1967.

NEW For What It’s Worth – Buffalo Springfield -4K- {Stereo} 1966

Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 10:06 am

Jewish group launches campaign against Greens ahead of Queensland election

Next Monday is the anniversary of the October 7 massacre and one of few Australian media voices taking civilisation’s side against terrorism, Hamas and Hezbollah, Sharri Markson, will be broadcasting her Sky News show from Israel all next week.

She is promising interviews with Israeli government ministers, terrorism victims and terrorism experts at the Middle East’s terrorism ground zero. Must-watch.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 3, 2024 10:14 am

compounding electoral woes for Anthony Albanese as an embattled Labor struggles to shore up Muslim support in its heartlands.

So Labor is ’embattled’, but they are not ‘beleaguered’ yet.

Still, I think we can expect ‘growing calls’ and ‘mounting pressure’ pretty soon.

Doubtless ‘unnamed sources’, or ‘people familiar with’ will keep us informed.

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 10:17 am

For what it’s worth (!):

The Australian has called the VP debate for Vance.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 10:20 am

Maylands to become home to first Stolen Generation healing centre on Noongar Boodja landJessica EvensenPerthNow – Central
Thu, 3 October 2024 2:00AM

Maylands will soon become home to Perth’s first healing centre for Stolen Generation survivors.
The City of Bayswater council voted at last month’s meeting to waive up to $13,985 in venue hire fees for the WA Stolen Generations Aboriginal Corporation to use The Rise community hall in Maylands as a healing centre once a week.
The proposal from Cr Nat Latter was carried 6-4, with councillors Assunta Meleca, Josh Eveson and Michelle Sutherland and mayor Filomena Piffaretti voting against it at the September 24 meeting.
The centre — which will be at The Rise on Thursday afternoons — will host workshops and cultural and storytelling sessions and be run by WASGAC’s operational arm, Yokai.
Yokai is a human rights initiative aimed at providing a “holistic, integrated approach to dealing with the effects of ongoing trauma suffered by the Stolen Generation and their families”.
City staff confirmed about 1.6 per cent of the city’s population were Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders.
The decision comes after Noongar man Jim Morrison — who is a member of the city’s reconciliation advisory committee and Yokai — asked the city to trial a Stolen Generations healing centre.
“We seek to create the first healing ventre on Noongar Boodja that will provide a safe, supportive space for Stolen Generations survivors and their families to heal from the adverse affects of policies and practices which separated children from their families, culture, country and community,” Mr Morrison said.
“We look to progress (the healing centre) from this half-day space to a full-time day activity centre.”

“A healing centre on Noongar country is a project that has been in the works for decades … the model for healing centres is tested across the country, but this is the first on Noongar Boodja,” she said.
“There is no organisation that is better placed to run peer to peer support programs to promote healing for Stolen Generation survivors and their families than an organisation that is composed of Stolen Generation survivors and their families.
“They (the WASGAC) see growth in the community’s capacity to be empowered to deliver its own healing for themselves and their families and this approach to healing aligns more closely to an Aboriginal worldview of health and community connectedness.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 10:24 am

Maylands will soon become home to Perth’s first healing centre for Stolen Generation survivors.

Well NDIS tarot card readers and goat therapy arrangers are suddenly out of work, so this is timely.

Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 10:28 am

Maylands will soon become home to Perth’s first healing centre for Stolen Generation survivors.

I expect they’ll be housed next door to the Centre for the Victims of Climate Change.

Wall-to-wall victims are essential for the loony left and all their loony causes

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 10:32 am

Victoria, state of corruption…

Almost one in three Victorian public sector employees think corruption is a problem in their workplace.

The Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission’s latest perceptions of corruption survey, released on Wednesday, makes for alarming reading.

More than 9000 responses were collected from Victorians aged 16 and older, including public sector workers, local government employees, Victoria Police members and business suppliers.

Roughly nine out of 10 agreed corruption happens in Victoria.

“Across the groups, there has tended to be an increase since 2022 in the proportion viewing corruption to be a problem in Victoria” [IBAC Deputy Commissioner David Wolf]. 

Victorian government workers are most likely to think corruption is happening in their workplace.

Thirty per cent conceded it happened within their ranks, up 10 per cent from two years ago and well above business suppliers (15 per cent), Victoria Police (21 per cent) and local government (22 per cent).

Surprisingly, Victoria Police employees (85 per cent) were more likely to agree police misconduct occurred in Victoria than community members (75 per cent).

Australian Associated Press, 2 October 2024

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 10:33 am

Heard Penny Wong on the radio talking about flights out of Lebanon. She used the words permanent residents but not citizen. She said permanent residents and their immediate family. What is definition of immediate family? Presumably wife and kids already would be permanent residents already. Does it include parents and brothers and sisters because that could then become a significant number.

A figure of 15,000 Australians to be repatriated has been mentioned. How many would be trying now or later to get in more relatives. Plus seems likely those 15,000 don’t have jobs in Australia.

My concern is those 15,000 are going to add to the protest numbers and swell the anti Semitic side. Will also add to the Labor or Muslim vote in certain electorates.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 10:42 am

These people aren’t Australians.

They’re descendants of muslim criminals that Malcolm Fraser allowed to be imported to Australia against all advice, instead of bringing in Lebanese Christians.

They claim Australian citizenship to reap the benefits of Medicare, the dole, age pensions and other government handouts but prefer to live in Lebanon and support the terrorist networks.

It is disgusting that the government sees a need to throw RAAF resources to give these bludgers a free flight to Australia.

Barnaby Joyce says Australians who decided to stay in Lebanon must “accept the consequences” of not heeding the government’s calls to leave the Middle East country.

The former Nationals leader’s comments came as at least one RAAF plane touched down in Cyprus late Wednesday (local time) following the Albanese government’s confirmation it was working to evacuate Australians from Lebanon.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 10:44 am

Monica Smit was arrested 3 X in one day. Flying Duk was arrested in Canberra on the way to a protest. Both had bail conditions that prevented their freedom of movement designed to stop them attending protests.
Rubber bullets and mace were used extensively based on the excuse they were doing it in the name of public health.
Good luck seeing the same level of enforcement against the “hater mobs”.

“My 2c worth after COVID. Cops can stop anything they want with midnight knocks, sham charges that are dropped before hearing or even brute force”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 10:46 am

Sounds increasingly likely the Israelis did get Sinwar.

Hamas refused to take part in ceasefire negotiations for several weeks, US State Department says (JPost, 3 Oct)

The Hamas terrorist organization has refused to take part in negotiations for a hostage release-ceasefire deal for the past several weeks, US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said on Tuesday.

“Hamas has been unwilling to come to the table to engage the past several weeks,” Miller said. “So yes, it’s true that we have not been able to advance these ceasefire talks, but it’s not because of any lack of effort by the United States or our partners in the region. It’s because the terrorist organization that Iran has sponsored for years and years and years has refused to come to the table. … He added the Gaza-based terror group had stopped engaging with Egyptian and Qatari mediators. He also said that Israel would have to make difficult decisions regarding the deal, but that “right now and for the past few weeks, it’s been Hamas being unwilling to engage in any meaningful way with the mediators that has kept us from moving towards an agreement.”

If he’s dead and what’s left of Hamas doesn’t want it known then it’d make sense to clam up like this. If they had to appoint a new leader in Gaza, who turned out to be very junior on account that everyone more senior were dead then the embarrassment quotient would be excruciating. Hamas relies on being the strong horse.

shatterzzz
October 3, 2024 10:48 am

Heard Penny Wong on the radio talking about flights out of Lebanon. She used the words permanent residents but not citizen. She said permanent residents and their immediate family. What is definition of immediate family? Presumably wife and kids already would be permanent residents already. Does it include parents and brothers and sisters because that could then become a significant number.

Sounds like she hasn’t dun her homework or, as usual, regards the vote-herd as ignorant ..
A “permanent resident” must return to Oz within 3 years of leaving (each time) or lose their permanent residency status …… They also have NO family admission rights .. *PR applies only to the individual not other family members …….

*I’ve been a PR for nearly 60 years so know these rules backwards …… !

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 10:57 am

The Australian’s in Lebanon should be made to cover their evacuation costs, If necessary garnish their bank accounts or centrelink payments.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 3, 2024 10:59 am

Maylands will soon become home to Perth’s first healing centre for Stolen Generation survivors.

Will need three “advisors” on serious salaries, two “company cars”, suitable allowances for Tim-Tams and coffee capsules. Plus an office fit-out of $100k.

In the first year.

Obviously.

Travel allowances for international conferencing to follow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 11:01 am

I mentioned yesterday that since Arrow interceptors are expensive it looked like the IDF chose not to intercept ballistic missiles projected to land on airbase runways. Which can be repaired pretty quickly. This seems now to be the case.

Iranian attack caused damage to Israel Air Force bases, IDF says (JPost, 2 Oct)

While the Iranian missiles did hit army bases, the Israel Air Force emphasized that no civilians, soldiers, or planes were harmed by them.

Through intelligence and other means, not a single IAF jet was hit by the missiles, Israel’s military said.

Furthermore, the damage caused to the army bases was not significant enough to hamper the IAF’s effectiveness, allowing the air force to continue hitting targets in Gaza and Lebanon.

One thing I’ve been wondering is whether they have Iron Beam up and running. I don’t know, and haven’t seen anything recent. But if it is the IDF probably wouldn’t be saying anything about that for security reasons.

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 11:06 am

They also have NO family admission rights .. *PR applies only to the individual not other family members …….

These rules didn’t apply to the Gazan tourists.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 11:12 am

It sucks to be a Gazan, even when you aren’t in Gaza.

Gazan buried as only known victim of Iranian barrage against Israel (2 Oct)

A 38-year-old Gazan, the only known fatality in Iran’s missile attack against Israel, was buried on Wednesday, witnesses said.

Sameh Khadr Hassan Al-Asali had been staying in a Palestinian security forces compound in the West Bank when he was killed by falling missile debris during Tuesday’s attack, which Israel said was largely thwarted by its air defense systems.

Video footage taken from a CCTV camera showed a large metal tube falling out of the sky and landing on a man walking across a street, apparently killing him instantly.

Sometimes you can be really really unlucky.

bons
bons
October 3, 2024 11:17 am

I believe that Netanyahu detailed the way ahead in regards to Iran when he expressed Israel’s solidarity with the young folk of Iran seeking to throw off the crazies’ yoke.

Interpreted as “we will go after your opressors – be ready”. Turbans and IRGC watch your backs.

Israel’s contemporary tactic of leadership warfare is both ecomomical and very effective.

In the meantime, the kids’ sport of running past mullahs and knocking their turbans off does look like fun, albeit potentially lethal.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 11:20 am

The Wong chap. Penny Ping Pong, starting to realise that there is a backlash against her Hamas/Hezbollah support.

But it’s all about politics and votes for the next election. Nothing to do with what is just and correct for Australia and, indeed, for the world at large. Quisling, appeasing slimy grifters.

From the Oz…

Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong says “Israel has a right to defend itself against Iran’s attack” following a barrage of nearly 200 missiles fired at Israel a day ago. 

It is more specific than what other government frontbenchers have said — that “Israel has a right to defend itself” — in specifying that Israel had a right to respond specifically to the Iranian attack.

Nonetheless, Senator Wong continued to back calls for a ceasefire across the Israel-Lebanon border. The Coalition has demanded the Albanese government express more explicit support for Israel as its ground offensive into Lebanon marks a new phase in the war.

“The strikes by Iran are a dangerous escalation and we condemn them fully,” Senator Wong said. 

local oaf
October 3, 2024 11:27 am

Are there actually any Lebanese living in Lebanon?

I recall the last time we had to fly “Aussies” back here from Leb, we discovered that Canada had about 50,00 “Canadians” they had to fly “home”, way more than Australia.

I wonder what proportion of the country is made up of victorious colonists back from the West for a holiday?

Delta A
Delta A
October 3, 2024 11:28 am

A fun read from the end of the old OT:

bons
 October 3, 2024 8:31 am

I have been given an automatic vacuum by one of the daughters – sheesh.

It appears to get around ok, or it would if the bloody kelpie would stop trying to herd it and corral it into corners. When all else fails it jumps all over it trying to stop it.

As much as I think it to be hilarious, the dog will never give up so the machine is headed for the storage shed between daughter visits.

I love kelpies and their thugs’ grins. (HT/bons)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 11:33 am

Biggest native title deal is in turmoilPaige Taylor
14 hours ago.
Updated 13 hours ago

The nation’s biggest native title deal – called Australia’s first treaty – is in turmoil as the land council that struck the agreement reels from explosive revelations that it secretly accessed the emails of “usurping” Aboriginal organisations established to take charge of the $1.3bn settlement.
The South West Aboriginal Land and Sea Council has been the subject of a series of stinging claims, three inquiries and at least two police complaints as it navigates what sources ­describe as a power struggle with six new regional Aboriginal corporations set up to realise the ­biggest and most comprehensive Indigenous settlement in Australian history, the 2021 South West land deal.
Former West Australian Liberal premier Colin Barnett proposed and struck the deal with the Noongar people of Perth and the southwest of Western Australia after a lengthy Federal Court ­battle had reached a stalemate.
The settlement – comprising a $600m future fund and 200,000sq km of land – enjoyed bipartisan support as a landmark agreement that cleared impediments for farmers, developers and government while providing economic opportunities for the Noongar people.
However, The Australian can reveal it has been blighted by conflict, and the South West Council – once lauded for striking the deal – has been told by investigators to “assess leadership effectiveness, review staffing profiles, build trust, and adopt a customer-­centric culture”.

The Cook government has been forced to step in and is expected to consider changes to the agreement at a cabinet meeting this month.
The Australian understands the South West Council and its supporters do not accept that there is deep conflict in the Noongar community over the rollout and delivery of the $1.3bn deal.
Council chair and esteemed Noongar leader Professor Dennis Eggington said: “Our Noongar people remain committed to unification across Noongar boodja, and our focus is on continuing to build a robust and unified Noongar Nation supported by seven strong corporations.”
One source who has closely observed the $1.3bn deal and its rollout said there was a perception among some in the South West Council that the six new ­Aboriginal organisations were usurping some of its roles.

Arky
October 3, 2024 11:43 am

Longshoreman Union arsehole:

in today’s world I’ll cripple ya

People today don’t know what a strike is… when my men hit the streets from Maine to Texas, everything will lockdown…second week, guys who sell cars won’t sell cars because they ain’t coming in off the ships…third week, malls start to close down, they can’t get the goods from China…everything in the United States comes on a ship, the steel’s not coming in…the lumbers not coming in… everyone’s realising how important our jobs are….in today’s world I’ll cripple ya

The union is demanding a 77% raise over six years…$44 for the first year of the contract, $49 for the second and up to $69 in its final year. 

everything in the United States comes on a ship

That’s the problem. And it doesn’t just make you vulnerable to a dockworker’s strike, it makes you vulnerable to every conceivable geopolitical risk from plandemics to wars to the closing of canals and sea lanes. And here’s the real kick in the face: the more you de-industrialise, the more you rely on imports the less you have of the industries required to defend those sea lanes and canals and to prevent the geopolitical risks. But you know what? I’m now convinced that those who paid to bring about the current situation knew damn well it was a road to hell.

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Salvatore - Iron Publican
October 3, 2024 11:43 am

I’m struggling with Australia owing RAAF valet service to ‘permanent residents’ (i.e. foreign citizens) who are .. resident … in another country.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 11:48 am

First Nation….

as it navigates what sources ­describe as a power struggle with six new regional Aboriginal corporations set up to realise the ­biggest and most comprehensive Indigenous settlement in Australian history, the 2021 South West land deal.

It seems that the concept of “First Nation” is all bullshite as all sensible people outside of white pretend aborigine academia lecturers know.

The tribal system is still thriving. A “Nation” – hahaha.

Arky
October 3, 2024 11:53 am

The rest of the decade: inflation and high interest rates, locked in I reckon. The expectation of higher prices is accepted at a population wide level.

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Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 11:58 am

Yazidi sex slave freed from Gaza by IDF after 10 years of captivity.
She was kidnapped when she was 11.
You can imagine.
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1841582667050995960?t=AQmIZ_wE6s9FElC8xOZubw&s=19
https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-822799

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 12:00 pm

Old explorers.

NASA powers down Voyager 2 plasma instrument to extend mission (Phys.org, 2 Oct)

On Sept. 26, engineers issued the command to turn off the plasma science instrument. Sent by NASA’s Deep Space Network, it took 19 hours to reach Voyager 2, and the return signal took another 19 hours to reach Earth.

Mission engineers always carefully monitor changes being made to the 47-year-old spacecraft’s operations to ensure they don’t generate any unwanted secondary effects. The team has confirmed that the switch-off command was executed without incident and the probe is operating normally.

In 2018, the plasma science instrument proved critical in determining that Voyager 2 left the heliosphere.

New Photos From Mars Show NASA Rover Has Holes in Its Wheels (29 Sep)

NASA’s Mars rover has been exploring the Gale Crater since 2012. That’s a long time to weather dust storms, drive along the base of a mountain and crawl over endless pointy rocks. The Curiosity rover’s aluminum wheels have taken a beating, with new images showing some dramatic gaping holes. But don’t be alarmed: NASA has it under control.

The photos are eye-opening. Curiosity has six wheels and some are worse off than others. The right-middle wheel looks rough, but “is still holding up well despite taking some of the worst abuse from Mars,” wrote rover engineer Ashley Stroupe in a mission update on Sept. 24. The wheel sports a gaping hole where you can see down into the mechanisms inside. 

Can’t change a 12 year old tyre on Mars. Amazing that the rover is still operating, since the mission duration was only supposed to be two years. And as for Voyager 2, reprogramming a 47 year old computer 0.0025 light years away makes doing machine code on a Commodore 64 look like the bee’s knees.

Vicki
Vicki
October 3, 2024 12:00 pm

It seems like the US has the same recruitment problems in the defence forces as we have. Indeed, it is probably common throughout the western world – except for Israel.

This is from the US website the streetwise professor :

With respect to the military, the list of structural problems is large, but two stand out: recruiting and procurement. 

Trump sometimes talks about one thing that is a source of recruiting woes: the insidious penetration of wokeness and DEI into the military. Harris will of course never talk about that, least of all to say that it is a problem. But the recruiting crisis had multiple causes, and at the very least a responsible presidential candidate would (a) recognize the problem, and (b) pledge the creation of a red team task force from outside the Pentagon to analyze the problem, identify causes, and recommend fixes. 

Insofar as wokeness is concerned, a West Point graduate wrote a stinging article about how it has taken over West Point. In response, the PR flack at USMA (a full colonel no less) wrote that the critical article was “problematic.” Problematic is a verbal tic with the woke, and its use in this context adds “QED” to the critical article. 

Procurement is also a dire problem, especially in the Navy. Just today it was announced that there may be a serious bad welds issue on subs and carriers built at Newport News Shipyard. But that is just the latest in a series of failures in Navy shipbuilding. Everything is late and way over budget. And some of the things that have been built in the last 20 years (LCS and Zumwalt in particular) have proved to be misguided efforts that add modestly to hull count but not to combat capability.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
October 3, 2024 12:05 pm

Bourne1879  October 3, 2024 8:52 am

Seems Qld now has 308,000 civil servants.

Last time I saw a number of was 220,000 around start of Covid.

A 50% increase – what the heck are they all doing?
The compliance regime is out of hand, I’m well able to attest to that.
This year (2024) More than 70% of my time & about 95% of my mental energy has been expended on dealing with pointless compliance & utterly brain dead public servants.

This is similar to the barrage of compliance I was buried under in the last 6 months or so before the Newman election.

I’ve taken to telling some of the public service dickheads a toned-down version what I think of them – which probably isn’t helping.

Some of them I refuse to even meet. I’ll just leave & go up the street if they turn up. The mental health benefits of doing that have to be experienced to be believed.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 12:08 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 12:09 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 12:14 pm

QLD Election gaffe: Premier Steven Miles forgets name of Labor candidate
From the Oz.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 12:14 pm

In order to keep up with the latest fashion trends I naturally checked out the Daily Mail articles on the WAGs at the Dally M awards night.

If they need a new person for a new series of Xena Warrior Princess I am nominating the blond Amazon looking girl from the Titans.

cohenite
October 3, 2024 12:21 pm

Mark Dice with highlights of the JD and tampon tim debate including Vance noting the blatant hypocrisy of the 2 skank moderators not only fact checking him when it was a condition of the debate to not fact check but lying during the fact checking. I’m so glad Trump selected JD; he was brilliant. I think this will move votes:

JD Vance Mops the Floor with Tim Walz at VP Debate Last Night! Media in Panic (youtube.com)

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 12:24 pm
cohenite
October 3, 2024 12:24 pm

Great essay on the hamas lies about palli fatalities:

But what about those “41,000” (the figure Hamas invokes as of September 2024) dead Gazans? Hamas wants the world to believe these were all civilians killed by the IDF. A figure of 41,000 killed does not sound like “genocide” to me. And besides, 41,000 is the figure supplied by Hamas, which has a long record of exaggeration. Consider Hamas’ claim that “500 civilians were killed at Al-Ahli Hospital by an Israeli rocket,” which later had to be reduced to “about 50 civilian deaths,” and they had in fact been killed not by the IDF, but by a rocket launched by Palestinian Islamic Jihad that misfired and fell inside Gaza. Or remember the similar claim of a “Jenin massacre” that supposedly left 500 dead civilians, a claim which had to be revised downward to 52, at least 45 of whom were combatants.

Let’s accept, for the sake of argument, that there really have been 41,000 deaths in Gaza since October 7. How many of those were “innocent civilians” killed by the IDF? The IDF says it has killed 18,000 Hamas fighters. Furthermore, every month, on average, 800 people in Gaza die of natural causes — diseases, accidents, etc. Over the past 11 months, 8800 civilians have thus died of those natural causes. Since the Gaza war began 11 months ago, the number of civilians killed can be calculated as follows: there have been 41,000 total dead, of whom 18,000 were Hamas members, and 8800 who died from natural causes, leaving a total of 14,200 civilian deaths due to actions by the IDF.

That brings us to another key figure: the ratio of civilian-to-combatant deaths. The UN has said that in all the wars fought since 1945, that ratio has stood at 9:1. In Afghanistan the Americans did much better, with a ratio of 4:1, and better still in Iraq, with a ratio of 3:1. But in the Gaza War, the ratio of civilian-to-combatant deaths achieved by the IDF was 14,200:18,000, or less than one civilian death for every combatant death. This is an unheard-of achievement. It is one reason why British Colonel Richard Kemp called the IDF “the most moral army in the world,” and why West Point Professor John Spencer said that “Israel has implemented more precautions to prevent civilian harm than any military in history — above and beyond what international law requires.” 

Celebrity Dopes, Dismantled | Frontpage Mag?

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Roger
Roger
October 3, 2024 12:29 pm

QLD Election gaffe: Premier Steven Miles forgets name of Labor candidate

Easy to do given there’s so many faceless men among them.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 3, 2024 12:29 pm

noting the blatant hypocrisy of the 2 skank moderators not only fact checking him when it was a condition of the debate to not fact check but lying during the fact checking

The absurdity of calling it fact checking is so extreme only a j’simist could say it.

They just contradict people they don’t like, to make them look stupid or like a liar. What did that beta-male say in Trump’s debate – that the town officials said they had not heard any reports of pets (among other animals) being kidnapped and eaten? The lazy j’ism of just taking officials at their word.

And of course it came out – as a result of this fact check – that people had been complaining to the city for months. It is still possible that all those people were exaggerating, or caught up in a sort of hysteria and no actual pets had been nabbed and nibbled, but there was more credibility in the ordinary people’s word than in a city official who would be on the spot if it happened and he did nothing. Besides that even, the immoderator had said there had been no reports – and clearly there had been.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 12:37 pm

The Daily Telegraph is still going on about the NSW Police Commissioners purchase and giving away of bottles of gin. Shock horror but one of the bottles was given to Alan Joyce.

Meanwhile mentioned in passing is this

“The Premier also blasted the NSW Police over “systemic” failures that led to more than 5,500 ballistic vests going missing.

“Clearly, the systems keeping track of the itinerary of the NSW police haven’t been up to scratch, and we need to make sure that they are,” he said”

How the F do 5,500 ballistic vests go missing ? In terms of money it is many multiples X the value of the gin costs. Surely there should be a criminal investigation into the “loss”. What kind of people would want these vests and how much each ?

But hey let’s keep going with the gin saga until we have accounted for every bottle and identified every recipient.

Vicki
Vicki
October 3, 2024 12:40 pm

A fascinating article on Netanyahu and a too farfetched comparison with Bismarck.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/israels-iron-prime-minister/

John H.
John H.
October 3, 2024 12:56 pm

It seems like the US has the same recruitment problems in the defence forces as we have. Indeed, it is probably common throughout the western world – except for Israel.

This is from the US website the streetwise professor :

With respect to the military, the list of structural problems is large, but two stand out: recruiting and procurement. 

Trump sometimes talks about one thing that is a source of recruiting woes: the insidious penetration of wokeness and DEI into the military.

The problem exists in China, Russia, and Japan. Russia is offering large sign on bonuses. China and Russia also have serious corruption problems in the military and quality standards are low. Blaming this on wokeness and DEI is politics not analysis.

Rabz
October 3, 2024 1:15 pm

grinning idiot miles forgets name of labore imbecile

“Maaaaate!”

Rabz
October 3, 2024 1:17 pm

What kind of people would want these vests?

Yes, it’s a mystery.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 1:27 pm

Rockdoctor
 October 3, 2024 10:02 am

A planned pro-Palestinian vigil will go ahead this Monday for the anniversary of October 7, despite police applying to the NSW Supreme Court to stop the event.

Islam has thrown down the gauntlet at the feet of the NSW government.
We will see if they have the balls to confront this insurrectionist mob – which is exactly what they are.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 1:43 pm

Daily Telegraph now has detailed article up about the missing vests. Part below

NSW Police lost track of 5577 ballistic vests worth an astonishing $8.4 million, according to an explosive internal audit from in July 2022, with top cops unable to guarantee that the vests – which are prohibited weapons – are not in the hands of the public.

The audit, released to parliament despite attempts from NSW Police to keep it secret, uncovered a “significant lack of governance and consistency” over how ballistic vests had been accounted for in police commands.

“The reconciliation audit has identified a total body armour deficit of 5577 vests,” a police briefing signed by Ms Webb’s chief of staff on August 1 2022 said.

JC
JC
October 3, 2024 1:44 pm

dover0beach

October 3, 2024 1:18 pm

Anyone that thinks the number of dead in Gaza is south of 50K is dreaming.

Are you suggesting it’s more or less?

Kneel
Kneel
October 3, 2024 1:47 pm

Anyone that thinks the number of dead in Gaza is south of 50K is dreaming.
Are you suggesting it’s more or less?”

Obviously he thinks more – “south of” would mean “less than” – sheesh!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 1:49 pm

“Anyone that thinks the number of dead in Gaza is south of 50K is dreaming”.

Unfortunately it is a population that has grown up being taught to hate its neighbour and where a majority support Hamas. They hate the Jews more than they love their own kids.

There is a reason why other Muslim countries don’t take in Palestinians from Gaza.

Kneel
Kneel
October 3, 2024 1:49 pm

“…uncovered a “significant lack of governance and consistency” over how ballistic vests had been accounted for in police commands.”

Given my last experience with “NSW’s Finest”, finding a lack of ethics in the staff is not at all surprising.
I really wish I didn’t have to say that, but I do.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 2:00 pm

The articles suggest she was held by the ISIS terrorist’s family.
Islamic patriarchy has a well established pecking order.
Men do as little as possible, women work til they drop, especially in the preparation of endless elaborate meals, it’s why they particularly want to emulate the prophet and own slaves.
Then the slaves can take over the onerous responsibility of providing sexual services (fgm having destroyed any great interest) and toil away at food preparation and housework the rest of the time while the women loll around like their husbands.
I’m sure lots of wealthy Gazan families had slaves, African and others, just as it is common in Lebanon where slaves are now being abandoned as their owners evacuate back to Australia, Canada etc.
Funny how the Aussie from Werribee with 4 kids made no mention of husband. Fighting down in the south?

JC
JC
October 3, 2024 2:00 pm

Okay, higher or lower than 50K, what’s your point here? As the reigning war nerd, why don’t you tell us what Israel should have done to minimize civilian deaths while ensuring its military wasn’t imperiled? Seriously, why go through the pretense? Why not just state unequivocally that you support Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, the dancing Tootsies, Russia’s kleptocracy, China, and North Korea? At least there’d be no more equivocation or playing word games in discussions while hiding it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 2:00 pm

Daily Tele.
Pro-Palestine protesters to hold snap rally outside Supreme CourtAs NSW police try to stop long weekend October 7 protests proceeding, Pro-Palestinian protesters will gather outside the NSW Supreme Court this afternoon.

cohenite
October 3, 2024 2:05 pm
Vicki
Vicki
October 3, 2024 2:07 pm

Dover might find this too long, but it is a great article from The American Spectator on the political chasm between the sexes in the younger generation

Flocking to Conservatism

American society seems dedicated to punishing youthful masculinity. 

https://spectator.org
?by NATE HOCHMAN

September 26, 2024

Young men once occupied a special — even unique — place in the West. Alexander the Great was 20 years old when he became king of Macedonia, and 25 when he conquered the Persian Empire; by the age of 30, he had brought most of the known world to heel. Augustus was 17 when he inherited Julius Caesar’s will; Charlemagne was 24 when he became the undisputed king of the Franks; and Napoleon was 24 when he became a general in the French army. On July 4, 1776, James Madison was 25; Alexander Hamilton was 21; and James Monroe was just 18. Christ himself was estimated to be roughly 30 — not young, per se, but hardly old, either — when he began his ministry.

The West’s greatest achievements were secured by men in the prime of their lives who were eager for glory, ready to die for immortality, and determined to write their names in the annals of their people’s history. From the early Viking raiders who sailed westward to explore and conquer alien worlds, to the European kings who struggled to unite and forge nations, to the Christian missionaries and explorers who crossed oceans to bring their God to new lands, Western Man’s undying thirst for new frontiers drove his civilization onward to destiny. They were the dreamers, poets, artists, statesmen, priests, philosophers, soldiers, and kings whose restless and irrepressible desire to know, explore, create, and conquer painted a civilization upon the empty canvas of primordial Europe. It was young Western men who poured out from the shores of their respective kingdoms to conquer continents, build a global empire, and give birth to the modern world.

For what young men gave to the West, the West gave back to them in kind. Youthful masculinity was afforded a certain kind of poetic glory in the West. But today, it is precisely what all of modern American — and more broadly, Western — society seems dedicated to punishing. The very virtues that were once celebrated and idolized by the bards and poets are now depicted as vices by the modern social and cultural regime. The very structure of American life appears, at times, to be organized around suppressing the same distinct ethos that originally shaped it.

In practice, this manifests as both an attack on young men specifically and an attack on masculinity in general — not just on the “gender norms” we hear about incessantly today, but on the masculine virtues and ways of viewing and interacting with the world. The phenomenon goes by many names, but perhaps the most popular descriptor, at least on the younger and more internet–savvy end of the Right, is “The Longhouse” — a term that “refers,” as the pseudonymous writer L0m3z put it in First Things, “to the remarkable overcorrection of the last two generations toward social norms centering feminine needs and feminine methods for controlling, directing, and modeling behavior.” Lomez writes:

Nowhere is this more apparent than in the realm of free speech and the tenor of our public discourse where consensus and the prohibition on “offense” and “harm” take precedence over truth. To claim that a biological man is a man, even in the context of a joke, cannot be tolerated. Instead, our speech norms demand “affirmation.” We are expected to indulge with theatrical zealotry the preferences, however bizarre, of the never-ending scroll of victim groups whose pathologies are above criticism.… Further, these speech norms are enforced through punitive measures typical of female-dominated groups –– social isolation, reputational harm, indirect and hidden force.

The emasculation of American life is both a literal process — whereby women are increasingly replacing men in traditionally male-dominated positions of power — and a more abstract, but no less potent, transformation, wherein feminine tastes, attitudes, and behavioral norms and expectations are replacing their masculine predecessors. As Lomez notes, “The Longhouse distrusts overt ambition. It censures the drive to assert oneself on the world, to strike out for conquest and expansion. Male competition and the hierarchies that drive it are unwelcome. Even constructive expressions of these instincts are deemed toxic, patriarchal, or even racist.

It is no coincidence, then, that political and ideological polarization among young people is increasingly splitting across gendered lines. “The Left,” broadly construed, is the party of the insiders — corporate managers, government bureaucrats, academic administrators, Big Tech C-suites, NGOs, and foundations, and so on. “The Right,” broadly construed, is the party of the outsiders — the Americans who, as a result of their geographic location, economic status, occupation, demographic characteristics, religious worldview, and sociological background are most alienated from the centers of social, cultural, and political power in modern America. The insiders represent, defend, and benefit from the new system; the outsiders resent and are disenfranchised by it.

The result is that, by many measures, gender-based ideological polarization within Generation Z is more pronounced than at any other time in recent memory. A University of Michigan survey tracking the political views of twelfth-grade boys and girls dating back to the 1970s found a sharp and drastic divergence to the right among young men starting around 2015 — and a sharp and drastic divergence to the left among young women around the same time. “Twelfth-grade boys are nearly twice as likely to identify as conservative versus liberal, according to [the] respected federal survey of American youth,” the Hill wrote. At the same time, “women ages 18 to 29 are more likely to identify as liberal now than at any time in the past two decades, according to Gallup surveys. Young women are almost twice as likely as young men to claim the liberal tag.” A major global survey written up in Reuters back in April found that young American men were “the only U.S. population group to turn more conservative over the past decade.”

A slate of other polls, surveys, and studies published over the past few years tell the same story. According to Gallup, the share of young men who identify as Republican has increased by double digits over the past decade. According to a Wall Street Journal poll published in late July, the majority of young men (ages 18–29) now support Trump — a 29-point swing from 2020. Young women, on the other hand, supported Biden over Trump by a whopping 30-point margin. (For context, the gender gap between young men and young women was only 5 pointsin the 2008 presidential election).
The trend extends to specific issue-based positions: On everything from a border wall to gender identity to abortion to tax cuts, the Journal poll found that young men sit to the right of young women by double-digit margins. On “abortion should be legal,” the gap between young men and women is 37 points; on “let kids pick their gender identity,” the gap is 35 points; on both “build the wall” and “extend the Trump tax cuts beyond 2025,” the gap is an astounding 43 points.

What’s particularly notable is that by at least some measures, the rightward shift appears to be accelerating at the younger end of the spectrum: According to PRRI’s annual poll of Generation Z — which helpfully breaks down results between “Gen Z adults” (ages 18–25) and “Gen Z teens” (ages 13–17) — younger Gen Z boys are 25 points more likely, on net, to identify as conservative over liberal than their older Gen Z counterparts.
The significance of the rightward shift among young men is evident in the fact that it extends beyond the relatively small cohort of highly politically engaged or active constituencies. Youth male culture today is often either implicitly or explicitly right-wing. This is visible in the most popular and well-known influencers among boys — Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Elon Musk, and so on. This is the true measure of the political culture in a particular demographic: Even for the apolitical members of the group, the environmental backdrop — the podcasts they listen to, the figures they idolize, the topics of discussion with their friends and broader social circle — is either right-wing or right-wing–coded.

Political and ideological polarization among young people is increasingly splitting across gendered lines.

This divergence isn’t just happening in America; it’s taking place across the developed world. “In the US, Gallup data shows that after decades where the sexes were each spread roughly equally across liberal and conservative world views, women aged 18 to 30 are now 30 percentage points more liberal than their male contemporaries. That gap took just six years to open up,” the Financial Times reported earlier this year. But the precisely same phenomenon is occurring in Germany (which has a 30-point gap), the United Kingdom (which has a 25-point gap), and any number of other developed nations. An Ipsos survey of male and female “Zoomers” across 26 countries, published earlier this year, found consistent double-digit gaps between young men and women on issues like same-sex marriage.

What all this means for America — and for the Right’s place within it — remains unclear. The genre of rightism emanating from the alienated, disenfranchised young male masses is certain to be distinct from the movement conservatism of the past few decades. It will be angrier, more militant, and organized largely around an emerging set of issues that are often described as the “culture war.” In reality, these issues are merely different battlefields in the far more fundamental war surrounding the most essential questions of American identity. Young men know, at a visceral level, what defeat in this war would mean. They understand, better than many of their older counterparts, the stakes. They are the Right’s natural allies — if the Right is willing to embrace them.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 3, 2024 2:08 pm

As far as I’m concerned not enough dead pali’s.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 2:10 pm

“I don’t have any satellite photos of Gaza but they are likely to be in any vacant land they can find.”
I’m sure someone has access to that.
Nor exactly a lot of vacant land in Gaza and given their burial practices mass graves would become a health hazard very quickly.
Not to mention given the sophistication of Gazawood productions why haven’t we been seeing endless war porn of these mass burials?
5000 sick and injured Gazans have been evacuated, 10,000 are still waiting. And that includes non war related like cancer patients.
I’d expect those numbers to be multiples higher, not unless there is a bizarre ratio of 3 or 4 dead to 1 seriously injured in this war.
We’ve seen the same dead baby in multiple episodes of Gazawood.
I’m not buying 50,000 war deaths.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 2:19 pm

Regarding the ballistic vests let’s not forget the cop who able to walk into a police station off duty and take it out to kill somebody.
If they can’t even have proper control over their guns how can they over vests?

shatterzzz
October 3, 2024 2:25 pm

Addition to my earlier post (10.48am) on Penny Wong and her wording of Permanent Residents in Lebanon …….
Forgot to mention the most important and, obvious, fact ..
Permanent Residents are NOT entitled to Oz consular/gummint aid anywhere OS of any sort because .. they are NOT Oz citizens ……..

shatterzzz
October 3, 2024 2:31 pm

When winning isn’t alwayz the best option ..!
Middle daughter & family up from Melbourne for the NRL Grand Final attended some sort of NRL fan day in the city yesterday ..
SiL won a big screen TV in a competition .. LOL!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 2:45 pm

Another one bites the dust…the Oz

Origin Energy is abandoning its ambitious plans to develop hydrogen in another blow to the Albanese government’s dreams for the energy source to help drive the transition to net zero.
The group said on Thursday that the decision to exit the proposed Hunter Valley Hydrogen Hub project reflected uncertainty around the “pace and timing of development of the hydrogen market” and the risks associated with developing capital-intensive projects of this nature.

What’s imbecile Bowen up to today?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 2:45 pm

From the Oz.
“Three-thousand people have now come forward with allegations against Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs, lawyers say. As the ‘wall of silence’ crumbles around him, the picture emerging is horrific”.

I am predicting a lot of court attendance in his future.

Frank
Frank
October 3, 2024 2:46 pm

NSW Police lost track of 5577 ballistic vests worth an astonishing $8.4 million, according to an explosive internal audit from in July 2022, with top cops unable to guarantee that the vests – which are prohibited weapons – are not in the hands of the public.

Why would the cops need ballistic vests anyway, it’s not as if anyone has guns to shoot back at them anymore.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 2:49 pm

Well, unless you want to pop into a cafe and cop blue on blue….

Why would the cops need ballistic vests anyway, it’s not as if anyone has guns to shoot back at them anymore.

Arky
October 3, 2024 2:50 pm

It appears (allegedly, allegedly, allegedly)…
That your music industry gangster rapper was a Russian doll of playing roles within roles within roles.
You act like a gangster to get the cred to become a musician.
You become a musician to access girls and drugs.
You use the girls and drugs to lure in adoring blokes to your parties.
For your ultimate goal of vigorously bumming young fellows.
That’s some 4D chess.
Plus I guess all the money and fame the whole enterprise brings.
It makes one wonder if the entire entertainment industry isn’t just a giant machine for illicit rooting, and the music, movies and TV that results is just a byproduct.
Sure would explain why everything is so dumb and boring and shit.
Producing art was never the intent.

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JC
JC
October 3, 2024 3:02 pm

dover0beach

October 3, 2024 2:56 pm

Okay, higher or lower than 50K, what’s your point here?

Precisely what I said.

The war has been going for about 10 months now at full scale. If you believe 50K is a dream-on figure, lets call it 100K (?) then. 333 war dead per day sounds reasonable to you, right? Where are the stiffs?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 3:05 pm

Pro-Palestine organisers pull pin on October 7 protest
Joanna Panagopoulos
Pro-Palestine activists have abandoned plans to hold a protest in Sydney on the first anniversary of the October 7th attack against Israel.
NSW Police launched a legal bid at the Supreme Court to block the planned demonstration over safety fears, and have been backed by Anthony Albanese and NSW Premier Chris Minns.
But the protesters and human rights groups have criticised the move as a “political attack” and an “attempt to stifle dissent”.
At the court hearing on Thursday, Arjun Chhabra, representing the defendants, said organisers now only intended to protest on Sunday, October 6th and would no longer proceed with the rally on the 7th.

calli
calli
October 3, 2024 3:29 pm

Smart move to cancel.

The optics of harassing Jews on the streets of Sydney during a remembrance vigil for the slain and stolen must have been a little too much even for these vile agitators.

I won’t be forgetting that they had to be told by the courts to stop though. Nor should anyone else. Mongrels.

Kneel
Kneel
October 3, 2024 3:30 pm

“…said organisers now only intended to protest on Sunday, October 6th and would no longer proceed with the rally on the 7th.”

because doing it a day earlier won’t result in the same level of violence, anti-semitism and other abhorrent behavior. Right.
Got your permit for that day? No? Then I hope you get “rubber bullet”ed and retch gassed to buggery like you deserve – you know, the same as the Grandma’s protesting forced vaccination, who were completely peaceful.
Oh I think you have the right to protest for sure, but peacefully ONLY. And you won’t be peaceful, it’ll turn violent and abusive – guaranteed.

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Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 3:49 pm

And even if it is 40,000 or 50,000 or 60,000 then that is because Hamas wills it.
They’ve said time and time again that Gazans are willingingly or unwillingly to be ‘martyred’ for the cause, and they die despite Israel’s best efforts to avoid civilian casualties.
Something they have done in every confrontation with hamas.
Hamas has been nowhere near the negotiation table for weeks.
Why is that?

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 3:51 pm

Remember it’s been nearly a year of no fuel, no food, no water, no electricity, no health services.
Gaza is quite the miracle.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 3:57 pm

“One to an aircraft hangar, another to a road”
That’s risible.
Two ‘precise’ hits, one to a road.
A road.
Yeah, you were definitely aiming for a road.
At least now it will be easier to hoe.

JC
JC
October 3, 2024 4:00 pm

Two precise hits can be seen in this @planet image of Israeli Nevatim Air Base after Iranian missile barrage. One to an aircraft hangar, another to a road.

Pretty clear indication of their capability.

They fired off ~200 missiles. That’s a 1% “capability” rate.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2024 4:02 pm

Arky
October 3, 2024 2:50 pm

It appears (allegedly, allegedly, allegedly)…
That your music industry gangster rapper was a Russian doll of playing roles within roles within roles.
You act like a gangster to get the cred to become a musician.
You become a musician to access girls and drugs.
You use the girls and drugs to lure in adoring blokes to your parties.
For your ultimate goal of vigorously bumming young fellows.
That’s some 4D chess.
Plus I guess all the money and fame the whole enterprise brings.
It makes one wonder if the entire entertainment industry isn’t just a giant machine for illicit rooting, and the music, movies and TV that results is just a byproduct.
Sure would explain why everything is so dumb and boring and shit.
Producing art was never the intent.

——

Spot on the money, Arks. Modern music is garbage.

Going back in time, this wasn’t below.. Taylor Swift for example is not even remotely close to quality such as this, yet so many people think she has talent. I saw a clip of one of her concerts in a packed out stadium and I just laughed. Fools easily parted with their cash paying for muck.

With that said, I do not listen to radio anymore, so there could be something that exists?

Quality here:

Pretenders – Don’t Get Me Wrong (Live in London)

Kneel
Kneel
October 3, 2024 4:03 pm

“Hamas has been nowhere near the negotiation table for weeks.
Why is that?”

For the exact same reason as they called for a cease fire as soon as they ran out of rockets to rain down on Israel – their leaders are cowards with no regard for the lives of others, and they see a political advantage to forcing Gazan’s to stay and shield them from Israel’s rightful reaction to their evil acts.
Israel should give a weeks warning, then drop FAEs (MOABs, vacuum bombs, whatever you want to call them) and flatten Gaza, then bulldoze the remains into the sea. Any survivors should be expelled from any and all Israeli territory permanently. If the Lebo’s want to keep going, do the same to them. Harsh, but it’s all they understand – overwhelming force.

P
P
October 3, 2024 4:11 pm
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 4:11 pm

Bourne1879  October 3, 2024 2:19 pm:

Regarding the ballistic vests let’s not forget the cop who able to walk into a police station off duty and take it out to kill somebody.

If they can’t even have proper control over their guns how can they over vests?

Bourne1879 – It’s not the vests that are the issue – it’s the cardigans that should be causing concern..

Kneel
Kneel
October 3, 2024 4:13 pm

“Enough to deter them from responding against Iran as proposed overnight? Well find out soon enough.”

“Revenge is a dish best served cold”
Israel will do what it always does – not use brute force where targeted attacks against individuals is more effective.
They’ll find out who ordered it, and assassinate them.
Everyone will know, but no-one will be able to prove it.
“You can run, but you can’t hide – not forever. And we have a very long memory.”
FA&FO.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 4:13 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 4:19 pm

Here’s one of the 50,000 dead Gazans.
Wife, doctor, paramedic, aid worker, journalist, child, beloved pet cat.

https://x.com/hahussain/status/1841635835067740368?t=Vpl6Uwu12u0jP8vDXhdjHA&s=19

JC
JC
October 3, 2024 4:20 pm

dover0beach

October 3, 2024 4:11 pm

They fired off ~200 missiles. That’s a 1% “capability” rate.

Shitposting is not going to stop them getting through.

It isn’t going to make them more precision capable either.

Kneel
Kneel
October 3, 2024 4:20 pm

“Like father, like son.”

Yes, both evil beyond the comprehension of human beings.
Demons, pure and simple.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 4:21 pm

If they aren’t employing genies, they are stealing clouds.
https://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1841542831988752806?t=hj5LDh-9dN11pcQPZQTIAg&s=19

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 3, 2024 4:21 pm

In this time of war in the middle east- which can only be seen as a defence operation by Israel, after offence by Palestine/Hamas/Hezbollah- the date of a “protest” is hardly important.
Don’t getme wrong- I’m glad that the weekend’s raghead rah-rah will not be directly spitting in the face of Israel’s allies by commemorating the anniversary of outrage- but it’s still a “protest” against the victims. It’s not a “protest” lobbying imams to tone down the jihad talk, it’s not a protest against forced marriages, it’s not protesting the modern demand for putting girls in the black shame-sack with the southern summer approaching. It’s not a charity drive, it’s not a march to demand more government aid, it’s not an awareness-raising sit-in like the Falun Gong or Tibetian protestrrs who were so swiftly supressed by the blob authorities. It’s not even a protest railing against the Australian government and people who do not share their passion for pogroms.
It’s just an antisemitic demo, pure and simple. Out to intimidate, spread fear, preach hate against Israel and jewry. There is no other purpose.
Even the Grampian Neo-Nazis had the good grace to show themselves in daylight, these wankers will march at night, just like every rampant mob. Sheesh, the Grampian Boys were such an existential threat, weren’t they? Remember the podium hours and column inches dedicated to thwarting them?
But the Blob has no interest in tackling jihadis. No, a fearful populace forcefully disconnected from their judeo-christian foundation suits them just fine.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2024 4:28 pm

What a stark contrast from the previous clip from India. Bald in Cambodia now.

35 minute clip.

——

Bald and Bankrupt:

1975 the Khmer Rouge rolled in to Phnom Penh to begin four years of brutal oppression in Cambodia. Although there were eventually defeated by the Vietnamese in 1979, Pol Pot and his army never went away completely. Hanging on in a northern village until the 1990s. I went to investigate and meet their descendants.

Drinking With The Khmer Rouge 

JC
JC
October 3, 2024 4:32 pm
John H.
John H.
October 3, 2024 4:48 pm

JC

 October 3, 2024 4:20 pm

dover0beach

October 3, 2024 4:11 pm

They fired off ~200 missiles. That’s a 1% “capability” rate.

Shitposting is not going to stop them getting through.

It isn’t going to make them more precision capable either.

If Iran wants to fight the USA bring it on.

This is what will get through. A C130 transport aircraft can release 45 JASSMs or LRASMs. These cruise missiles have a 1,000 km range, will move in a shifting trajectory at very low altitude at Mach 9, with stealth and AI capabilities so each missile will target different objects. These missiles make tomahawks and harpoons obsolete(but still useful for easy targets). Take 3 130Cs loaded up and the devastation will be immense. No other country is anywhere near that capability.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 3, 2024 4:50 pm

From the Oz.

“the government had secured 80 seats on flights leaving today but only 35 had been taken up”.

I find that great news. Since they are not interested cancel any other planned flights.

Zero sympathy if any remaining behind suddenly call to be airlifted out. It is not RAAF Uber.

cohenite
October 3, 2024 4:52 pm

A prime example of woke policies:

In 1962, 93 percent of all murders in America were solved. In 2020, more than 50 percent of murders went unsolved. What happened? Why is it so easy to get away with murder in the United States?

Half of Murders Go Unsolved – Intellectual Takeout

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2024 5:12 pm

Avi:

Chantelle Baker secures a significant legal outcome against The New Zealand Herald in her fight against Kiwi media bias

NZ Herald FORCED into embarrassing settlement for printing FAKE news

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 5:13 pm

“Please do not wait for your preferred route.”
Oh and.
Please do not wait for us to pick up the tab.

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2024 5:14 pm

I’ve had a long day and I’m exhausted. However the day is still not over as I have to leave soon to go to a dinner. The Rosh Hashanah service is long but it didn’t bother me. I wasn’t bored, I prayed and sang. I enjoyed every second of being in shul, almost four hours. I heard the shofar, I kissed the Torah with my machzor and I felt, despite the last year, that we Jews will thrive, we Jews will survive.

Am Yisrael Chai.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 5:18 pm

Well, that’s nice of the filth..

Arjun Chhabra, representing the defendants, said organisers now only intended to protest on Sunday, October 6th and would no longer proceed with the rally on the 7th.

Who the fcuk has a name like that in a sane society?

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 5:19 pm

“It’s absolutely clear these strikes are meant to demonstrate capability”
No it’s not ‘absolutely clear’.
There were more fatalities in Iran from that raid than there were in Israel.
I’m going to assume they actually intended to cause significant damage with their ‘ballistic missiles’.
They didn’t.
Pot holes in the road notwithstanding.
Here’s a report on the damage.
https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/how-much-damage-did-iran-barrage-of-180-missiles-cause-in-israel-13821613.html

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Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2024 5:32 pm

@newstart_2024

Brutal takedown…

Matt Taibbi: “So let me pause to say something about America’s current intellectual class from which the anti-disinformation complex works. By the way, there are no working class censors. The dirty secret of content moderation all over the world is that it’s a tiny sliver of educated rich correcting everybody else. It’s telling people what fork to use, but you can get a degree in it, basically.
The problem is America has the most useless aristocrats in history.
Even the French dandies who were marched to the razor by the Jacobins were towering specimens of humanity compared to the Michael Hadens, John Brennan’s, James Clapper’s, Mike McFall’s, and Rick Stengel’s who make up America’s self-appointed speech police. In pre-revolutionary France, even the most drunken, depraved, debauched libertine had to be prepared to back up an insolent act with a sword fight to the death.
Our aristocrats pee themselves at a mean tweet.
These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism, which is unique to them, no loyalty, no dreams, and no accomplishments. They are simultaneously illiterate and pretentious, which is very hard to pull off.
They may have one idea, and it’s not even an idea, but a sensation. Fear. Rightly so, because they snitch each other out at the drop of a hat. They’re afraid of each other. But they’re also terrified of everyone outside their social set, and they live in near constant dread of being caught with even one original opinion.”

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 3, 2024 5:34 pm

What is it with these darkies and muslims that they are compelled to defile children and goats?

More than 100 people, including dozens of children, who say they were victims of rape, sexual assault and sexual exploitation at the hands of Sean “Diddy” Combs are to sue the US rap star.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2024 5:35 pm

@MikeBenzCyber

You Are Paying The Government To Protect Bill Gates’s Reputation Online.

I explained what’s behind the new Bill Gates video and how the Pentagon’s swarm army of censors actively censor US citizens questioning Bill Gates online. w/ @nataliegwinters

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2024 5:42 pm
Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 5:43 pm
Tom
Tom
October 3, 2024 5:47 pm

A thing of beauty, a work of art.

Red-pillled former lefty Matt Taibbi on the West’s new ruling class:

Our aristocrats pee themselves at a mean tweet.

These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism, which is unique to them, no loyalty, no dreams, and no accomplishments. They are simultaneously illiterate and pretentious, which is very hard to pull off.

They may have one idea, and it’s not even an idea, but a sensation. Fear. Rightly so, because they snitch each other out at the drop of a hat. They’re afraid of each other. But they’re also terrified of everyone outside their social set, and they live in near constant dread of being caught with even one original opinion.”

To paraphrase Kim Beazley senior, that’s what the dregs of the middle class have become — whiny parasites whose main task is to prevent national achievement.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2024 6:02 pm

The Biden Administration Is Laughing at Red State Flood Victims
I’ve been reading the most extraordinary things about the response to this disaster. Like the Lake Lure, NC Fire Chief threatening to ARREST people for rescuing stranded Helene victims. And FEMA confiscating donations and blocking volunteers.

And both FEMA and the Red Cross up to their old tricks of saying, don’t donate goods and help, just give us the money!

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2024 6:05 pm

Prosecuted by the biggest thieves and liars in history.

@CilComLFC

BREAKING: Marine Le Pen has gone on trial in France for allegedly “misusing” EU money.

If convicted, she faces 10 years in jail and a 10-year ban from public office.

Le Pen is leading in every poll ahead of the 2027 French Presidential Election. This is Election Interference!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 6:07 pm

Smells fishy.

Prosecutors Seek Indefinite Delay In Trial Of Alleged Trump Assassin Over “Complex” Evidence (3 Oct)

Federal prosecutors on Wednesday requested an indefinite delay in the upcoming trial of Ryan Routh, the man accused of attempting to assassinate former President Donald Trump, claiming that a massive trove of evidence has emerged in recent weeks rendering the case “complex,” ABC News reports.

By keeping him in cold storage he is unable to fess to any links to the alphabet agencies. Which would be a tad explosive if that is the case.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2024 6:13 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2024 6:19 pm

46 minutes ago

Police withdraw application to block protest after deal struck
Joanna Panagopoulos
The NSW Police Commissioner has withdrawn an application to stop a demonstration going ahead in Sydney’s CBD on October 6.
It comes after NSW Police and the Palestine Action Group agreed to slightly alter the route of the proposed March so protesters would avoid the Great Synagogue.
After three hours of hearings in the Supreme Court and backroom discussions between the parties, the PAG submitted an amended Form 1, which is a notice of intention to hold a public assembly, and the police did not object to it.
Assistant commissioner Peter McKenna told the court on Thursday it would be “provocative” for pro-Palestine protesters to walk a protest route past the Great Synagogue, particularly on a Jewish holiday, and said it “could be a tinder box” for Sydney.
The protest will now go ahead along the amended route.
Outside court, PAG organisers said they still intended to hold a candlelight vigil on the anniversary of the October 7th Hamas attack, but a vigil does not require police permission.

Lysander
Lysander
October 3, 2024 6:21 pm

Just popping by…

Last night I chanced upon quite a number of videos on YouTube showing October 7 Hamas terrorists being interrogated in some sort of Israeli facility.

I was sadly mesmerised. Most clips were men (boys), between the ages of 18 and 21 and many, if not most, said they had only been in “Palestine” for 6 to 18 months. They looked like ordinary people.

Every single one of them admitted the Koran says not to kill, some saying it specifically says “not to kill women and children” but all of them admitting to killing, raping, kidnapping and pilfering as if they were recalling a non-eventful walk they recently took.

It kept me awake nearly all night trying to figure out how could you be so anaesthetised to what you’ve done. Then I remembered, at about 3.30am…

Many Nazis, after WWII, who were put on trial (Eichman, or numerous others, for example) were completely emotionless and recounted their atrocities as if they were the banalities of life. They looked like ordinary people.

One Hamas terrorist said he was told by his boss who was told by Sinwar he’d get an apartment in Gaza with $10,000 US for each hostage he brought back. He was quite a handsome young man with puppy brown eyes. He murdered and threw grenades into a family’s safe house.

He looked like an ordinary man, but was a monster.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 6:22 pm

Plod does a Sir Robin.

Police, protesters strike deal for October 7 eve rally (Paywallian)

The NSW Police Commissioner has withdrawn an application to stop the planned demonstration after the Palestine Action Group agreed to avoid the Great Synagogue.

No you craven cowards, it’s not the location it’s the date. The anniversary of the worst genocidal attack against Jews since 1945. Which these antisemites are celebrating.

What a bunch of contemptible and detestable arseholes. Good luck getting the public to respect your uniform ever again.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 6:23 pm

An overview from a military guy
https://youtu.be/Yu6aINTFtRY?si=hBvcndBXxXhRpprA

Vagabond
Vagabond
October 3, 2024 6:25 pm

Middle East ‘fast becoming an inferno’: UN Secretary General condemns Iran’s attack on Israel (msn.com)

I think that pos only condemned Iran’s attack to avoid the embarrassment of being declared persona non grata by Israel

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 6:28 pm

Unicorn flatus.

Origin exits hydrogen in latest blow to Labor’s net zero targets (Paywallian)

The energy major is abandoning its ambitious plans for hydrogen in the latest blow to the Albanese government’s dreams for the energy source to help drive the transition to net zero.

Anyone with a calculator can work out in under a minute how spectacularly uneconomic green hydrogen is, except it seems Chris Bowen.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 3, 2024 6:30 pm

Our aristocrats pee themselves at a mean tweet.
These people have no honor, no belief, no poetry, no art, no humor, no patriotism, which is unique to them, no loyalty, no dreams, and no accomplishments. They are simultaneously illiterate and pretentious, which is very hard to pull off.
They may have one idea, and it’s not even an idea, but a sensation. Fear. Rightly so, because they snitch each other out at the drop of a hat. They’re afraid of each other. But they’re also terrified of everyone outside their social set, and they live in near constant dread of being caught with even one original opinion.”

Yes dead souls – so much for an expensive ejucashun.

cohenite
October 3, 2024 6:49 pm

FMD, credlin says she doesn’t think rub and tug is a bad man! The media are hopeless.

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 6:51 pm

“The Iranian tyranny won’t be overthrown for the same reason that”
I’m not so sure.
Iranians are rejecting islam in increasing numbers, particularly young people and they have a vocal diaspora supporting them.
I don’t see that in those other countries.
Nor are Iranians all living in abject squalor, they have a substantial, well educated middle class

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 3, 2024 6:55 pm

Agree Rosie- I find many Iranians very cultured and civilized. Real ladies some of them too with a lot of style.

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johanna
johanna
October 3, 2024 6:58 pm

Disgusting, cowardly, mealy-mouthed liars.

Truth is, they are too gutless to take on the Palli Protesters. Once again, they have succumbed to bullying – and we know where that leads.

‘OK, we won’t beat you up behind the bike shed, we’ll beat you up in the laneway instead.’

‘Oh, thank you! Inshallah!’

There are no words. 🙁

Rosie
Rosie
October 3, 2024 6:59 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
October 3, 2024 7:02 pm

Remember VikStasi’s late night visit to Avi?

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 3, 2024 7:03 pm

NDIS was TLS’s poisonous egg. Cloward-Piven stuff.

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2024 7:05 pm

So, it’s ok to celebrate the massacre of Jews?

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 3, 2024 7:07 pm

The weakness, dishonesty, cowardice and hypocrisy of the bullying marxist establishment on full display.

Muddy
Muddy
October 3, 2024 7:09 pm

Anyone who enjoys torturing themselves might wish to observe how our various major media outlets cover the anniversary of the 7th of October Slaughter. How many minutes do the evening ‘news’ programs devote to each event (and their representatives), and what is the EXACT language they use for each? Ditto for the press. If I was a bit more heavily sedated, I’d consider a brief guest post.. Hint, hint. Any takers?

Muddy
Muddy
October 3, 2024 7:22 pm

Heh.

I like the newer, innovative idea: “From the liver to the knee…

Reader comment from ClickBaitJimmy on The Populist Times website, referencing the recent hezb@ll@cks-no-longer pager ‘overheating’ issue.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 3, 2024 7:31 pm

Reshaping…

Much like bomber Harris reshaped Germany?
The Yanks reshaped Hiroshima
Or the unlubricated pineapple reshapes whatever orifice the tax department applies it too.

JC
JC
October 3, 2024 7:31 pm

Great piece
Israel Defends Itself—and May Save Western CivilizationThe equivocation of Biden, Harris and other leaders should cause us all to feel a degree of shame.
Gerard Baker
How will we ever repay the debt we owe Israel?
What the Jewish state has done in the past year—for its own defense, but in the process and not coincidentally for the security of all of us—will rank among the most important contributions to the defense of Western civilization in the past three-quarters of a century.

Having been hit with a devastating attack on its people, beyond the fetid imagining of some of the vilest antisemites, Israel has in 12 months done nothing less than redraw the balance of global security, not just in the region, but in the wider world.
It has eliminated thousands of the terrorists whose commitment to a savage theocratic ideology has claimed so many lives across the region and the world for decades. It has, with extraordinary tactical accuracy, dispatched some of the masterminds of the worst evil on the planet, including most recently Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader in Lebanon. It has repelled and then reversed the previously inexorably advancing power of one of the world’s most terrifying autocracies, the Islamic Republic of Iran. It has demonstrated to all the West’s foes, including Iran’s allies in Moscow and Beijing, that our system of free markets and free people, and the voluntary alliance network we have constructed to defend it, generates resources and capabilities of vast technical superiority. Above all, it has provided an unexpected but crucial reminder to our enemies that there are at least some willing and able to pursue and defeat them whatever the risk to our own lives and resources.
The only appropriate responses to Israel’s gallantry, fortitude and skill from us—its nominal allies, especially in the U.S.—are “thank you” and “how can we help?”
Instead, time and again Israel’s supposed friends, including the administration of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, have, while expressing sympathy over the outrage of Oct. 7 and uttering the usual support for “Israel’s right to defend itself,” repeatedly tried to restrain it from doing just that. Their early, valuable support has been steadily diminished by the way they have too often connived with the anti-Israel extremists in their own party.
Before Israel had even buried its dead last October and as Hamas was busy murdering its hostages, there were calls for Israel to cease fire. For a year we have heard our leaders’ “balanced” condemnations of Hamas and its terror masters on the one hand and the Jewish state on the other, a false equivalence that says more about the moral disorder in our own politics than about Israel’s motives and actions.
In Europe, they have gone even further, as usual, rewarding Hamas and Hezbollah by nominally recognizing a nonexistent Palestinian state and prosecuting Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on bogus war-crimes charges.
Do they not get that in the end we have to make a choice: our ally, on the front lines of defense against barbarism or our enemies, those who literally want to see us all buried?
Fortunately for all of us, it seems Israel is prevailing despite the chorus of hecklers.
Perhaps all this sounds too blithe for skeptical readers; or at least premature given the rising expectation of a much wider conflict to come. And it is true that there has been awful loss of innocent lives in Gaza, Lebanon and elsewhere that undoubtedly fuels the ire of the enemy across the world. What if Mr. Netanyahu and his government’s aggressive prosecution proves a Pyrrhic victory?
But that wider conflict was perhaps always inevitable, given Iran’s stated objectives and its consistent efforts to achieve them. We can say two things tentatively about that long-feared wider confrontation. First, the strategic tactical, intelligence and technological genius Israel has demonstrated over the past year might have done so much damage to Iran’s proxy armies and their military and political leaders that they will be ill-prepared and equipped for the bigger struggle to come, and Israel—and, let’s hope, reliable allies—better placed to defeat its enemies. Second, having observed this Israeli superiority over that time and eagerness not to bring the destruction on itself a wide war would surely bring, perhaps Iran will be deterred.
Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few, Winston Churchill said of the men of the Royal Air Force after they had repelled Hitler’s Luftwaffe during the Battle of Britain. (Reminder to some recently confused “conservatives”: The former were the good guys; the latter the real villains.)
We should echo those words today as we watch in awe what a country smaller in area than New Jersey, with a population less than North Carolina’s and an economy smaller than that of Washington state, has done for all of us.
As Israelis solemnly mark a year since Oct. 7, we should not only redouble our expressions of sympathy and solidarity. We should show them our gratitude, and if we are willing to be really honest, acknowledge a little of our own shame.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
October 3, 2024 8:03 pm

Greens join push to scrap junior worker pay rates

The Greens have joined a push to abolish junior wage rates for young workers, ramping up pressure on the Albanese government for another round of industrial relations changes after next year’s election.

So, an 18 year old and a 22 year old go for a position. Who will get it?
The older one of course. They have – generally – got more working experience.
Do the 18 year olds think beyond the wages, and wonder if they’ll actually get the job?

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Muddy
Muddy
October 3, 2024 8:16 pm

An extract from the Jerusalem Center for Security and Foreign Affairs Israel Under Fire – Iran’s Involvement in the October 7, 2023 Massacre: From the Shadows to Center Stage:

This immutable ideology fuels Iran’s desire for regional supremacy, the destruction of Israel, and the subordination of non-Shiites. The West’s lenient interpretation of Iran’s intention to “free Palestine from the Zionists” naively ignores that the Iranian regime’s plans require the destruction of Israel and any state or other political actor that attempts to block the mullahs’ path to victory. Hamas’s use of human shields is not a mistake or a sacrifice made for a “Free Palestine” but an expression of the disposability of human life that the Iranian regime encourages in service of its apocalyptic meta-objectives. This renders the Palestinian issue a weapon for Iranian supremacy, not subject to political or territorial compromise between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2024 8:18 pm

Greens join push to scrap junior worker pay rates

ACTU is also.

ACTU’s new IR marching orders to Labor: scrap youth pay (Paywallian, 1 Oct)

Unions will urge a second- term Labor government to legislate an end of junior pay rates for adults if they fail to win major case

I’ve hated the unions ever since I was forced to join one when working over the uni holidays at a mine site. The dues were docked from my desperately needed pay without my consent. That was in 1980. I have not improved my regard for them since that time.

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