Open Thread – Thurs 14 Nov 2024


The Morning, Caspar David Friedrich, 1822

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 14, 2024 8:19 pm

WTF is going on with power in Qld?
https://www.ergon.com.au/network/outages/outage-finder/outage-finder-map/
It looks like half the state is out.
There’s 3 houses in the entire block with power and the sound of gensets is loud in the land.
All due to storm activity. What storm activity?

Crossie
Crossie
November 14, 2024 8:29 pm

John Fund, a US columnist, being interviewed by Sharri is sporting a black eye. I wonder who socked him.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2024 8:30 pm

Why am I left with the feeling that the parents of those demanding a “Free Palestine” were those chanting “One Side Right…One Side Wrong, Victory to the Viet Cong?”

Damon
Damon
November 14, 2024 8:41 pm

The painful truth about assisted suicide: Lethal drugs don’t promise dignified death

If this was true ethanasia of pets would be illegal.

Cassie of Sydney
November 14, 2024 8:59 pm

I happen to like and approve of Trump’s picks – Elon, Vivek, Tulsi, Matt G, Mike H, Elise Stefanik and others.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 14, 2024 9:08 pm
Cassie of Sydney
November 14, 2024 9:13 pm

Oh and hi Baba aka Bluey.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 14, 2024 9:15 pm

I’m not a massive Christmas fan – not out of hate for it, or anything like that.

I just don’t get into it as much as billions of people across the globe. What I really enjoyed about it, though, was the unbridled wonder and excitement of small children – including my own at that age, that something good was going to happen.

Not necessarily getting presents or even the commercial aspect, but that Christmas was a particularly happy time of year, and to be enjoyed by all. Food, drink, and the company of people close to you. And tradition.

Speaking of which, and if one were to live in Melbourne with small children, one of the great traditions is the opening of the Myer Christmas window display. Wonder, joy and anticipation awaits – wide joyful eyes, big little-toothed smiles, the lot.

But no. Nothing, not one thing in the lives of children is safe from these absolute dickheads (the Hun):

Pro-Palestinian activists have been slammed after forcing Myer to cancel the opening event for its iconic Christmas windows display, ignoring pleas from police to respect the holiday ritual.

The so-called Disrupt Wars group will converge on Bourke Street Mall on Sunday, with Victoria Police saying the force would have “visible presence” as a result.

As far as I am aware, Christmas doesn’t feature greatly in the Jewish calendar. And:

The windows attract about 2.4 million visitors each year.

Or used to. And:

A police spokesperson said: “Victoria Police is aware a group of protesters is planning on disrupting the unveiling of the Myer Christmas windows on Sunday.”

“We have repeatedly requested they do not do this, however, the group is not co-operating with police.”

It is believed to be only the second time the launch event has been cancelled since the tradition was started nearly 70 years ago, with the opening canned in 2020 amid the Covid-19 pandemic.

Just look at this from these socially-inept, friendless flogs:

But the Disrupt Wars group said: “Christmas is cancelled, and there will be no joy or frivolity while children in Gaza are massacred.”

In a statement on social media on Thursday, the group said: “Join us on Sunday, November 17 at 10.30am to interrupt the Christmas windows reveal at Myer and inconvenience those who would rather bury their heads in the capitalist machine than speak up against a genocide.”

Disrupt Wars organiser Amy said children in Australia shouldn’t have “more rights to enjoy Christmas than the children in Palestine”.

“We are going to inconvenience their parents who have chosen apathy over empathy,” she said.

“We’re seeking to interrupt the fun and joy that Myer wants us to share.”

I truly, truly hope the Disrupt Wars people – who, by the way, are too pasty and snivelly to actually get involved in disrupting anything except the enjoyment of small children – are pummelled deep into the crevices in bluestone laneways crisscrossing Bourke Street by the parents of said children.

And the jacks as well. High time the long batons were brought out and used on the right people.

Indolent
Indolent
November 14, 2024 9:23 pm

Catturd just reposted this to his 3 million followers.

@craigkellyXXX

LABOR ARE SPINNING LIES & MISINFORMATION TO DECEIVE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THEIR MAD BILL

You can’t make this stuff up. – what type of sneaky, rotten & dishonest government peddles misinformation to trick the public into accepting a Bill that censors what the government deems is “misinformation”.

Labor’s Communication Minister Michelle Rowland went on Ben Fordham’s 2GB breakfast program earlier today and misled Ben and his listeners.

She did this by falsely claiming that under the MAD Bill that “platforms decide” what is and misinformation.

She also falsely claimed that under the Bill “the government does NOT have control over what the platforms serve up”

The MAD Bill gives ACMA the power to dictate to X (and the other platform) what X’s “community standards” must be as to what is “misinformation” (Sections 57, 58 & 59 of the Bill)

Then under the other provisions of the MAD Bill, ACMA can fine X hundreds of millions if X doesn’t censor posts that are “misinformation” according to the community standards that ACMA has forced upon then.

Indolent
Indolent
November 14, 2024 9:30 pm
Frank
Frank
November 14, 2024 9:32 pm

Not necessarily getting presents or even the commercial aspect, but that Christmas was a particularly happy time of year, and to be enjoyed by all. Food, drink, and the company of people close to you.

You get that spiel a lot, especially when in Woolworths. Mention that there’s a birthday involved and they look at you like you just shat the bed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2024 9:34 pm

Bush telegraph says John Deere agricultural machinery was proposing to re-locate to Mexico, in the interests of cheap labor.

Trump is supposed to have threatened them with tariffs on their machinery entering the United States, that would make their eyes water…

cohenite
November 14, 2024 9:37 pm

Paul Murray is a fuking idiot: he justifiably criticises the chunks claim for 1.3 trillion for climate reparations from developed countries; but then explains it’s because the chunks are the biggest polluters. FFS CO2 is not a pollutant; trees only exist because of it; and crops would not be as plentiful without the slight, NATURAL increase in CO2 over the last 150 years.

Bolta does the same: CO2 is a pollutant and global boiling is real but Australia’s contribution is so relatively small we should be excused.

Global boiling is bullshit. The correct position is that and ruinables are garbage. But even our best conservative commentators can’t manage that.

John H.
John H.
November 14, 2024 9:43 pm

South American gangs established in the USA. On the weekend I said to a friend that the Latinos who voted for Trump knew that criminal gangs were crossing the border with them. The Democrats laughed this off.

Some of this is distressing.

(4) The Most Violent Gang is Spreading Across America – YouTube

Indolent
Indolent
November 14, 2024 9:44 pm
Indolent
Indolent
November 14, 2024 9:51 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2024 10:07 pm

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB1new6U.img?w=32&h=32&q=60&m=6&f=png&u=t
Daily Mail

John Deere faces farmer boycott after laying off 2,100 US workers while moving work to Mexico

johnjjj
johnjjj
November 14, 2024 10:24 pm

The Stade de France is in the centre of the muz area of Paris. Plenty of mosques. Already actions have started. The soccer match is tomorrow morning our time.

Muddy
Muddy
November 14, 2024 10:25 pm

Fallujah—My Platoon’s Fight Through The Bloodiest Battle of The Iraq War.
YouTube – 26 minutes.
I’m not afraid to write that my cheeks are a little moist.

One of my pet peeves is the misuse of the term ‘hero.’
Sporting stars, celebrities, etc., while they may be accomplished and some possess admirable personal traits, are NOT heroes.
(I’m not going to finish writing this. It seems disrespectful to turn things political after watching that)…

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
November 14, 2024 10:42 pm

Thanks Indolent @10:33pm

Miranda has donned the hob nailed boots.

Love the lass!

Arky
November 14, 2024 10:52 pm

Fox.
Laura Ingram show.
Talking about reforming the military.
”Re-industrialisation”.
”Re-armament”.
”Industrial base”.
”Stop essential companies sold overseas”.

Thank you. Hallelujah.
About time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2024 10:59 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgP4iH6StAM

And that, gentlemen, is your first lesson on how to use a handgun..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 14, 2024 11:16 pm

Anyway, “Sliante” to all you horrible mob.

My accountant informs me that I have made an obscene amount of money during the year, my physician informs me that my liver is in excellent shape.

What more could a self funded retiree hope for?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 14, 2024 11:50 pm

My accountant informs me that I have made an obscene amount of money during the year,

No amount of money is obscene. A quadrillion dollars would be at worst mildly vulgar.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 15, 2024 12:19 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 12:26 am

When all the CA votes are counted, the total vote count will be roughly similar to 2020.

Kamal-toe sits on about 72.9 million votes, with the Donald on 75.9.
There are about 2.7 million votes still outstanding in California.
So she’s not winning the popular vote.
Assume Kamal-toe pulls nearly 80% of the outstanding CA vote which gets her to 75 million (it’s running 60:40 at the moment, so that is a very generous assumption).
Still a whopping 6 million votes short of Sleepy Joe in 2020.
That’s not “roughly similar” in anyone’s language.

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 15, 2024 2:00 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 15, 2024 2:30 am

… Even

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 15, 2024 3:02 am

I’m not saying there’s anything suspicious about the blackout, but it’s quite widespread for a lightning strike or two.

When we lived at Stanthorpe we would often loose power. I remember one time there was glorious blue skies, yet we lost power because of a storm 250km away.

There has been storm activity in the southeast. Still a bit of rumbling on the Sunshine Coast, but only a few spits of flannery a couple hours ago so far. I

Muddy. We got 60mm and marble sized hail in the first storm, and 12mm in the second. This was the first time ever we have seen rain hit windows in all 4 sides of the house at the same time. The road under the rail bridge at Palmwoods flooded and there were large branches down from the big fig trees in the Palmwoods- Montville Rd. Trains were out to overhead line damage at Eudlo

Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:08 am

Michael Ramirez TDS #2.

Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:09 am

Matt Margolis. Brilliant.

Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 4:14 am
JC
JC
November 15, 2024 6:00 am

Yes, thank you for confirming that in the UN scenario the ratio of global industrial production is 4:1 in China’s favour but 3:1 in your conservative scenario. An improvement of 50% in a mere in 6 years even in the latter scenario. I can well imagine Xi is crying into his noodles at the thought of it.

Dover, I have to say, this sudden leap in faith for the UN’s predictions is really something. China, out of the blue, cranking up production by nearly half in six years? Really?
Honestly, I’m scratching my head. We were all under the impression you’d seen the light and moved on from institutions, such as the UN and legacy media. In fact you’ve told us you were. Yet here we are, not just taking UN projections as gospel but arguing on their behalf. That’s an unnecessary 180 if I ever saw one. Let’s keep the story straight,

Please, I beg you: stop reading that idiot bald Frogster. 🙂

calli
calli
November 15, 2024 6:58 am

Ramirez #1 – already done, The Age last week, ho hum

Ramirez #2 – not so much TDS as a conventional comment on the destructiveness of progressive policy

Margolis nails this last in perfect style (snort). Pots and kettles.

I think it will be a bad four years for Ramirez. It’s all been said before, and a lot by him. Garrison could have the same problem, but from the other side of the aisle,

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 15, 2024 7:10 am

How quickly the MSM have switched from craven acceptance of the awful appointments and dirty deeds of the Biden Handler Regime to now being totally critical of every Trump appointment and anticipating his wrong decisions about everything.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 15, 2024 7:12 am

The Senate RINOs electing a majority leader have proven me correct in saying that even Trump might fail to fix the USA given the number of bad actors in so many places. They will all be out to stymie and discredit, or worse.

johanna
johanna
November 15, 2024 7:17 am

Notice how the MSM are gung ho for restrictons on social media?

Everywhere you look, they are piously concerned about ‘the children’ and Nazis and stirring up ‘racism’ and so on.

What they neglect to mention is that social media has been stealing their advertisers and ther readers, and is now sending them broke.

Every time you read/see/hear something in the MSM about the evils of socail media, do keep that in mind.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 7:17 am

Some factoids for m0nster re the Presidential election:-
1. With the introduction of cat eatin’ Haitians to the campaign, and JD Vance’s comments on “childless cat-ladies”, this is the second successful campaign by Trump featuring pussies;
2. Thanks to the two term limit imposed by the 22nd amendment, m0nster will never be wrong about a Trump campaign ever again and can’t improve on his 0-2 record; and
3. JD Vance claims relationship to the Hatfield family – of Hatfield vs McCoy fame. If grudge bearin’ and score settlin’ are genetic traits, a few Dimocrats should be very worried.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 7:22 am

Bolt is rapidly becoming a tired old turd like Kelly and Sheridan. The legacy meja- here, pommyland and US pulled out all stops to prevent Trump winning. Now they’re pulling out all stops to undermine everything he does. I hope they continue to slide into irrelevancy. They sure deserve to.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
November 15, 2024 7:26 am

Michael Ware is not alone in playing up the charges against Matt Gaetz, but like the others he gives no context. Firstly, it’s likely that those charges were more for political purposes, like the various abuses of the law against Trump.
Gaetz has been an effective critic of the Biden Handler Regime, and later a critic of Kevin McCarthy’s performance as Speaker. Any report that says Gaetz was being investigated by DOJ should also admit that the DOJ has been fully onboard with quite a bit of dodgy lawfare.

P
P
November 15, 2024 7:27 am

Trump says JPMorgan’s Dimon won’t be invited to join his administration
Reuters – November 15, 2024

Trump is yet to announce a Treasury secretary pick.

shatterzzz
November 15, 2024 7:30 am

Gotta luv this gummint .. Just spent $95 on a new 4G phone to replace my “old” 4G phone .. not because there is/was anything wrong with the old one but cos the gummint instructed providors to cut off any phones (including 4G) that, for reasons unknown to the user, were connected to the 3G system for 000 calls are now obsolete …….
?$95 out of my OAP .. Not “appy, Luigi …… F**K YOU ..!

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 7:31 am

What is it about these meja people? They are so poisonous. The foul cane toad, the Wintour social x-ray, ray fartin. Just yuck.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 7:36 am

Miltonf

 November 15, 2024 7:22 am

Bolt is rapidly becoming a tired old turd like Kelly and Sheridan. 

Bolt interviewing Sheridan about Trump …

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JC
JC
November 15, 2024 7:39 am
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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 15, 2024 7:47 am

I was more than a little bit annoyed at Sharri Markson last night when she said the treatment of Donald John Trump over secret documents was not the same as Biden the filthy sniffer for the same thing. She was wrong completely. Sniffy Joe was VP not President. Sniffy was not entitled to even have them. The Don was. Yes the treatment was different, 180 degrees wrong. Poor journalism.

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calli
calli
November 15, 2024 7:50 am

Now they’re pulling out all stops to undermine everything he does. 

Watching Bolt last night reminded me of Screwtape and the Gluttony of Delicacy (you can read up on it, Chapter 17).

He has what he desires* – a Trump presidency. It is there before him on the plate, smelling delicious and full of nourishment. But he will now proceed to search out every little flaw without even tasting…a little too much browning on the meat, a bean here and there a little underdone, a carrot with a slightly woody centre. And, oh, there’s just waaaaay too much on the plate!

Send it back!

This was just so obvious, until General Keane blew his little Castle of Distaste sky high. And that was truly delicious.

*or so he says

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 15, 2024 7:51 am

GWGB.

Boeing Laying Off 17,000 People Following Major Strike, Business Woes (14 Nov)

Aircraft manufacturer Boeing has sent about 17,000 layoff notices to employees who are expected to be cut by mid-January, company officials told Fox Business last month. 

In a statement published on October 11, Boeing told the outlet that it is “adjusting our workforce levels to align with our financial reality and a more focused set of priorities.”

The thousands of employees to be fired include executives and managers, new CEO Kelly Ortberg told staff in a memo obtained by the outlet. 

This week Elizabeth Lund was booted – she was VP of Quality. And dusky Mr Ted Colbert was let go from the position of CEO of the space and defense division in September. They were probably very competent people but I’m sure there were DEI brownie points to be had for originally appointing them.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 15, 2024 7:51 am

Breitbart at http://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/11/14/nolte-abc-news-in-panic-mode-to-bring-pro-trump-voices-to-the-view/

points out that Trump supporters are not welcome in a left dominated media. To balance this Trump supporters are not going to appear or write for a left dominated media.

Assuming Donald the Great survives his term, the American MSM is in for a tough time.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 7:52 am

GreyRanga

 November 15, 2024 7:47 am

I was more than a little bit annoyed …

Limit your annoyance.
You’re in rehab.

Cassie of Sydney
November 15, 2024 7:55 am

You have all probably now heard of how, on Remembrance Day, the UK Plod, who of course have nothing better to do than spend their time combing through, like building excavators, the tweets of people whose opinions they’ve been told by their political and ideological masters are not ‘kosher’, turned up at the Essex home of UK Telegraph columnist, Allison Pearson. Ms Pearson, still in her dressing gown and slippers when she opened her front door, had been preparing to attend the early morning Remembrance Day ceremonies in her Essex town of Saffron Walden. The two young constables standing on her doorstep politely informed Ms Pearson that they were there to investigate a ‘non-crime hate incident‘ from a social media post by Pearson from over a year ago. Taken aback, Mr Pearson asked the two constables what the ‘alleged social media post’ was about, to which one constable replied that ‘they were not allowed to tell her that’. Pearson then asked ‘who is accusing me‘ to which one of the young constables said ‘we’re not allowed to tell you that either‘. But worse, the constable corrected Ms Pearson and told her that there was no ‘accuser‘, there was only a ‘victim‘!

Are you gasping for breath yet?

Oh and golly gosh, my apologies, pardon the ‘kosher’ pun, that terminology might annoy a poster here called Bluey, who’s taken to trolling me, it appears he doesn’t like anything ‘Jewish’. Perhaps Bluey aka Baba would prefer if I used the word ‘halal’? Let me know Bluey aka Baba, I’ll be happy to oblige.

But back to mean tweets, it’s all a bit sinister, totalitarian and dystopian, isn’t it? Lavrentia Beria must be smiling in hell. But this is the state of decay in the UK now, it truly, really has become a rotten place and sadly I reckon it will only get worse. Just how far away the gulags are is anyone’s guess. But all is not lost, you can walk UK cities proudly screaming genocide against Jews, proudly threatening to rape British Jewish women, proudly celebrating the mass rape of Israeli Jewish women, proudly threatening the lives of conservative and right-wing UK politicians and commentators, you can even walk London streets proudly stabbing people, and the UK Plod will be no where to be seen…..AWOL, the UK Plod even will justify the Jew hatred with such slimy talk as it being about ‘context’, they’ll even ignore the threats against Farage and other conservative politicians because such people are just ‘far-far-far-far-far-right, raaaaacist, raaaaaacist, raaaaaacist’ and they’ll put the out of control knife crime into the ‘too hard’ basket. It’s far easier for UK Plod to sit their fat lard arses on chairs, munch donuts, drink bland Costa coffee and trawl through people’s social media posts.

Police work in 2024, Sir Robert Peel must be turning in his grave.

But how new is any of this? That’s right, it’s not new. I note that Indolent linked to Katie Hopkins ruminating on this Pearson outrage but as Katie said, its all happened before, it’s happened to her, it’s happened to other ‘troublemakers’ (or as I prefer to call them…..freedom fighters) such as Tommy Robinson, Kellie-Jay Keen, Graham Linehan, and many others who’ve all fallen foul of progressive thought police, be it on immigration, Jews, Israel, transperverts, Southport and so on. Katie has had visits from Plod for years, as has Linehan, as has Robinson. As Katie says, she derives no pleasure from what has happened to Allison Pearson but you might ask where were these people were when it was happening to Hopkins, Robinson and others. In fact they were no where, they were silent…………and now it’s happening to them.

That old saying by Niemoller remains true…

First they came for Tommy Robinson, and I refused to speak out because I was not a working class lad from Luton.

Then they came for Katie Hopkins, Kellie-Jay Keen, Graham Linehan, Laurence Fox, Carl Benjamin, Calvin Robinson and many others, and I refused to speak out because I couldn’t be bothered, it was all too hard.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

But now they’re coming for me, and there is no one left to speak up for me.

Everyone is Katie now, everyone is Tommy now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 15, 2024 8:03 am

Too Cheap to Meter news (the Hun):

The real cost of building a renewables-only power grid is more than half a trillion dollars higher than the Albanese government has claimed, bombshell new research reveals.

According to the modelling, replacing a predominantly coal-fired system with mainly solar and wind will set Australia back at least $642 billion, not $122bn as Labor has stated.

The more than $500bn hole is due to the exclusion of fixed and variable operating expenses, fuel and more than $60bn of transmission projects, as well as the use of an accounting treatment called “net present value”, rather than actual prices.

And:

The new paper, “Developing a base case to assess the relative costs of nuclear power in the NEM”, was done by energy experts Frontier Economics — a group of advisers the ALP has previously used.

Let’s see Bowen squirm out of this one.

Mind you, I’d be astounded if anyone was actually surprised by this.

What I really want to know is how much cash is being shovelled into the private accounts of Mr Bowen and his entourage by overseas renewables ‘infrastructure providers’.

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alwaysright
alwaysright
November 15, 2024 8:04 am

Fricking cold November night and the dog kept fartin’ all night.
I’m looking forward to returning to the house after promising the spouse that I won’t wear the MAGA hat on the premises.

BTW
5℃ overnight is ridiculous for November.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 15, 2024 8:10 am

More chick bashing

Trends In Wokeness & Girlbossery In Science

-but I’m pleased to see ‘physiognomy’ back in the charts, like desert boots, a crime it ever fell from favour.

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Crossie
Crossie
November 15, 2024 8:11 am

I had no idea that Rita Panahi is quite famous in the US due to her “Lefties Losing It” segments that are played on YouTube. Paul Murray say lots of people told him so on his US visit.

Crossie
Crossie
November 15, 2024 8:15 am

This week Elizabeth Lund was booted – she was VP of Quality. And dusky Mr Ted Colbert was let go from the position of CEO of the space and defense division in September. They were probably very competent people but I’m sure there were DEI brownie points to be had for originally appointing them.

No, if they were competent Boeing would still be doing OK. It is in trouble due to DEI which apparently does not trump laws of physics and economics.

P
P
November 15, 2024 8:23 am

Donald J Trump announces Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS).

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 15, 2024 8:25 am

Meanwhile, in Airstrip One.
If declining an invitation to a voluntary interview is cause for arrest, then then the interview isn’t voluntary.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 15, 2024 8:31 am

What I really want to know is how much cash is being shovelled into the private accounts of Mr Bowen and his entourage by overseas renewables ‘infrastructure providers’.

How much of the union maaaaates monies are tied up in super funds chock a block to the gills with renew-balls portfolios?

https://www.cbussuper.com.au/super/my-investment-options/investing-for-members

RenewablesWe have invested in several wind and solar energy opportunities in Australia and overseas and we are working with governments and our industry partners to identify further opportunities to invest in Australia’s energy transition. Examples include our investments in Star of the South, Australia’s most advanced offshore wind project.

IFM Net Zero Infrastructure FundWe have committed to the IFM Net Zero Infrastructure Fund which is focused on infrastructure investments that accelerate the world’s transition to a net zero economy and is aligned with the UN Sustainable Development Goals.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 8:32 am

I first visited Britain in 1988 and rather liked it after got used to it- everything seemed so OLD and a I felt a bit claustrophobic. Nothing really wild either. Nothing like the Blue Mountains or even the bush near my house. But it was a sensible country. Border security seemed quite tight then too even though they were in the EU. I think the place got wrecked during the bLIAR era. bLIAR was probably more dangerous than the Starmer filth (everyone knows he’s an evil fukwit). Where as bLIAR seemed so nace. Howard comes to mind too.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 15, 2024 8:33 am

She’s better looking than monty, there’s that. But the tears are just as sweet. Daily Telegraph:

Desperate Housewives star Eva Longoria has led the exodus from the “dystopian” United States after Donald Trump won complete control over both the White House and Washington DC.

The outspoken Kamala Harris supporter revealed that she uprooted her family from Los Angeles to start a new life in Mexico and Spain.

“If he keeps his promises, it’s going to be a scary place,” she told Marie Claire. “I had my whole adult life here. But even before [the pandemic], it was changing. The vibe was different. And then Covid happened, and it pushed it over the edge. Whether it’s the homelessness or the taxes, not that I want to shit on California —it just feels like this chapter in my life is done now.”

The homelessness has come from the Democrat governor in Gavin Newsom and indeed the current President and his drunken sidekick.
And give her at least a shred of credit, she’s one of the few idiots going through with the threat.
But just need to say adios and don’t come back if you hate the country that gave you wealth and fame.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 8:34 am

Airstrip one now for sure.

Barry
Barry
November 15, 2024 8:40 am

Actually, I think I’d prefer we got back to $5 haircuts.

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Crossie
Crossie
November 15, 2024 8:42 am

P

 November 15, 2024 8:23 am

Donald J Trump announces Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS).

I hope the food pyramid is reworked during his term so that people can go back to actual healthy eating.

Come to think of it, why does it have to be a pyramid? Wouldn’t a square work just as well if not even better?

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 15, 2024 8:49 am

So the Brits voted in a totalitarian government.

Will they remember how this is corrected?

P
P
November 15, 2024 8:51 am

Charlie Kirk:

Ladies and gentlemen, your new HHS Secretary, Bobby Kennedy Jr.:

“I asked God for 19 years to put me in a position where I could end the chronic disease epidemic and bring health back to our children, and in August, God sent me Donald Trump.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 15, 2024 8:54 am

Donald J Trump announces Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS).

I hope the food pyramid is reworked during his term so that people can go back to actual healthy eating.

Maccas and coke! And meat loaf. All the best food groups!

Trump’s diet is ‘poison’ and he never drinks water, says RFK Jr (14 Nov)

Donald Trump never drinks water and his fast-food diet is like “poison”, according to Robert F Kennedy Jr who is vying for the role of food safety tsar in the president-elect’s Cabinet.

In a new interview, Mr Kennedy said the food Mr Trump consumed on the election campaign trail was “really, like, bad”.

And he compared the president-elect’s fast food favourites, KFC and McDonald’s, to “poison”.

Mr Kennedy, who is also known as RFK Jr, had been expected to become the White House’s food safety czar as part of the next administration, after dropping his own presidential ambitions to endorse Mr Trump.

“The stuff that he eats is really, like, bad,” Mr Kennedy told the Joe Polish Show.

Well the food he eats obviously has kept him alive for 78 years and fueled a campaigning marathon that a 20 year old would have trouble surviving. The graphic of Trump’s daily menu is epic, but it isn’t in a format that I can insert, so you’ll have to go to the story to see it.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 15, 2024 8:56 am

Crossie
 November 15, 2024 8:11 am

I had no idea that Rita Panahi is quite famous in the US due to her “Lefties Losing It” segments that are played on YouTube. Paul Murray say lots of people told him so on his US visit.

Famous in the UK as well! Rita is one of the best commentators and deserves greater prominence IMHO.

Spiked.

You can see the most entertaining examples of fit-witism on the excellent Rita Panahi’s Sky News Australia segment, amusingly called ‘Lefties losing it’. 

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 15, 2024 8:57 am

lotocoti: November 15, 2024 8:25 am

Meanwhile, in Airstrip One.

If declining an invitation to a voluntary interview is cause for arrest, then then the interview isn’t voluntary.

Nightmare One, I think is more applicable. “Public Protection/Community Safety Unit/Team One.”
The British People need to understand that the Police have become the KGB. They can resign any time they like, but they prefer to support the new regime.
“The SS and Gestapo were always there, but the Nazis gave them power and set them against the people.”
People noticed when the teachers were radicalised – they never expected it of the police. They refuse to believe it will be the armed forces next in line.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 15, 2024 9:02 am

Mrs Eyrie just came up with a suggestion for Trump to get rid of traitorous Generals and Schedule F civil servants.
When they turn up at work tomorrow they find a bottle of whisky and a pistol with a single bullet on their desks.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 15, 2024 9:20 am

Perhaps I’m doing it wrong, but there doesn’t appear to be an English edition of Palaestina ex monumentis veteribus illustrata.
It’s a trust, but verify thing.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 15, 2024 9:33 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 15, 2024 9:35 am

I think the place got wrecked during the bLIAR era.

Sure did. New Labour* and the Cool Britannia movement unleashed the awesome power of ‘establishment creatives’ – vigorously cheered on by the media. Once you get a tsunami of knob goblins influencing policy, nothing becomes too ‘fringe’ or obtuse.

* And backed up by subsequent governments.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 15, 2024 9:37 am

Live

Eva Longoria flees ‘dystopian’ US amid total Trump victoryDesperate Housewives star Eva Longoria has led the exodus of Kamala Harris’ celebrity supporters as Donald Trump exerts total control over Washington DC.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 15, 2024 9:42 am

Diogenes November 15, 2024 3:02 am
Just to point out – again – the issue isn’t me being suspicious, it’s about the fact that one lightning strike has blacked out a substantial part of the state. This isn’t a network – it’s a set of unconnected lines.
Similar to having a road network that doesn’t connect two towns A & B 200 km apart – meaning you have to travel 500km via city C to get to B from A.

Kneel
Kneel
November 15, 2024 9:46 am

M0nty: “When all the CA votes are counted, the total vote count will be roughly similar to 2020.”

Really?
Because https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/unprocessed-ballots-status says that as of the 14th at 12PM, that have already counted 14,425,857 votes and there are 1,658,803 uncounted ballots in CA, plus only 133,057 mail-in that can be “cured” (ie, they can’t currently be counted until voter “fixes” mistakes they made in the mail-in process) – hardly seems enough to make up 7 million that Cakula lost by, let alone the 10-15 million needed to match the 2020 vote count.

Care to “debunk” this official California State Government web-site on what the actual number of vote counts are?
Care to retract your clearly wrong statement?

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 15, 2024 9:50 am

Is 4 years long enough for the “progressive” word to disappear from the political lexicon?

e.g.
Yes child, there was a time many many years ago when that word was used by the fascists to describe themselves.

cohenite
November 15, 2024 9:53 am

Poor old kevi: some other Australian pollie comments about Trump:

NSW Upper House (October 13, 2016) Greens MP Jeremy Buckingham
That this House:
(a) condemns the misogynistic, hateful comments made by the Republican candidate for President of the United States of America, Mr Donald Trump, about women and minorities, including the remarks revealed over the weekend that clearly describe sexual assault;
(b) reflects on the divisive, destructive impact that hate speech from political candidates and members of elected office has on our community; and
(c) agrees with those who have described Mr Trump as “a revolting slug” unfit for public office.
Motion agreed to.

Latham overturned this 2018

Labor MP Emma Husar (October 10, 2016)
“Well you know Donald Trump’s a pig, he’s an absolute repugnant animal.”

Former Australian ambassador to the US Kim Beazley (August 10, 2016)
“Were there to be a Trump presidency, and I think that’s slightly less likely than more likely that that will occur, he would trash basically the structure of alliance relationships and trade relationships in our immediate region.”

Greens leader Richard Di Natale (October 12, 2016)
“That repulsive creep Donald Trump.”

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull (3AW, October 14, 2016)
“I have condemned his (Trump’s) remarks, a number of them in fact.
“In fact I described them as loathsome and said that they deserve the universal condemnation, but I will limit myself to that.

alwaysright
alwaysright
November 15, 2024 9:57 am

I’m thinking that the measure of a man can be derived from his enemies.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 15, 2024 9:59 am

https://jihadwatch.org/2024/11/cia-official-with-top-security-clearance-charged-for-leaking-docs-about-israels-plans-to-strike-iran

A CIA official has been charged with leaking highly classified US documents about Israel’s potential plan to strike back against Iran over a missile attack.

Asif W. Rahman, who worked overseas for the agency and held a top secret security clearance, was arrested by the FBI in Cambodia on Tuesday over the leaks, the New York Times reported.

His arrest comes after the top secret materials started circulating online last month detailing Israel’s apparent intention to retaliate after Iran launched a barrage of missiles back on Oct. 1.

Just how many more moles has the Biden Regime put into place in the guts of the US government Security Apparatus?

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 10:02 am

I’m thinking that the measure of a man can be derived from his enemies.

Yep- if the meja hate you, there’s something good about you. Remember the cane toad dissing Jacinta.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 15, 2024 10:09 am

Is that out of Beau Geste?

Enemy at the Gates in this case. Best part of the whole movie with Bob Hoskins as Nikita Sergeyevitch Khrushchev where he slides the pistol across the table to the Russian General defending Stalingrad and urges him to do the right thing and save a lot of paperwork.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 15, 2024 10:12 am

Similar to having a road network that doesn’t connect two towns A & B 200 km apart – meaning you have to travel 500km via city C to get to B from A.

Not quite as bad but look at the two possible routes from Toowoomba to Boonah. Both involve a right angle.

Pogria
Pogria
November 15, 2024 10:14 am

Numbers Bob comment over at Michael Smith. The article about Penny Mong voting for Pally Statehood. Is he an early AI Bot? Is he the Gimp’s father?

“1735988 said…
How is supporting Palestinian sovereignty a threat to Israel?
Like the Israelis, they are a Semitic people and entitled to control their ancestral land.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 15, 2024 10:19 am

Like the Israelis, they are a Semitic people and entitled to control their ancestral land.”

Crete?

cohenite
November 15, 2024 10:28 am

Donald J Trump announces Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as The United States Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS).

A bear on every table!

KevinM
KevinM
November 15, 2024 10:30 am

Black Ball
November 15, 2024 8:33 am

Desperate Housewives star Eva Longoria has led the exodus from the “dystopian” United States after Donald Trump won complete control over both the White House and Washington DC.

The outspoken Kamala Harris supporter revealed that she uprooted her family from Los Angeles to start a new life in Mexico and Spain.

I’m certain she has close connection there, and job offers.
This move sounds like it had been made some time ago and announced at a politically convenient time to do a bit of grandstanding and virtue signalling.

Other who threaten to leave hardly ever do, why should they?
I mean someone like Whoopi Goldberg, what is there for her to fear?

Tell you what, there are a lot of people who should seriously consider leaving if Trump is anywhere near as ruthless in exercising his potential power as the DEMs were.

Of course he wont do it or prevented from doing it, it’s all talk.
Mark my word, he’ll be embroiled in all sorts of legal and impeachment procedures, specially now, given the senate leadership.

(besides, the US has a long arm to get those she wants back, so it would be a pointless move for most)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 15, 2024 10:34 am

Sounds like fun.

‘A disgusting Jew’: Uproar after Netflix casts Jewish-Israeli actress to play Mary, Jesus’s mom (14 Nov)

Netflix released the trailer earlier this week for Mary, its upcoming movie about Jesus’s mother – a Jewish woman from the Middle East – and a good chunk of the Internet is melting down, because the actress in the lead role is a Jewish woman from the Middle East.

Noa Cohen, a 21-year-old Israeli actress, portrays the world’s most famous Jewish mom in the movie, but some social media users are calling for a boycott. …

Kathy, an X user whose bio reads, “It’s Palestine. It will always be Palestine,” wrote, “F**k you. I’m an offended Catholic. F**king have an Israeli play Mary? May you all be f**king smited. Blasphemous”

Anything that explodes the heads of lefties is fine by me. And Ms Cohen is rather yummy.

P
P
November 15, 2024 10:35 am

Vaccine maker stocks tumble after Trump picks RFK Jr. for health secretary
CNN

An hour before the market closed Thursday, as news reports of Trump’s choice began trickling out, Covid-19 vaccine maker Moderna dipped as much as 6%, and Pfizer fell almost 2%. Novavax, which created a protein-based Covid-19 vaccine, fell almost 6%.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 10:40 am

Black Ball
November 15, 2024 8:33 am

Desperate Housewives star Eva Longoria has led the exodus from the “dystopian” United States

Reading on it sounded that Eva:-
(a) has job offers further afield;
(b) has no job offers in California;
(c) thinks California is a shithole and wants to get out, but dare not say so;
(d) all of the above.
I predict she will quietly pop up in NYC or some other part of the US early next year.

Vicki
November 15, 2024 10:43 am

I repeat this entry, which was nested in reply to a previous post – with Dover’s agreement, of course!

Thank the Lord. I know some people think Bobby is a ratbag because of his extreme position on vaccines in general. But the continuing revelations about the medical profession, medical research and the pharmaceutical profession are causing a reevaluation of the nature of health in the western world. As with many concepts, critical evaluation, concealed conflicts of interest, and the corrosive effect of big money have seriously undermined the practice of medicine. I would have exempted surgery in this evaluation, as I think the progress in surgery in our age has been astonishing. But even in this hallowed domain, the practice of orthopaedic surgery has been under the microscope in recent years. 
Despite the global reports of vaccine injuries beyond almost any new medicine in modern times, in today’s “Australian” an astonishing panegyric of Covid mRNA vaccines has been published by an Australian professor of medicine. They will not give up.

Vicki
November 15, 2024 10:52 am

Another interesting development was the finding that the Denisovians migrated to Australia.
New insights into the Denisovans—the hominin group that interbred with modern day humans (Phys.org, 9 Nov)

You are a brave man, BoN!

Zippster
Zippster
November 15, 2024 10:56 am
Zippster
Zippster
November 15, 2024 10:56 am

Elon Musk renews push to defund NPR ahead of Trump’s second term

yes!

JC
JC
November 15, 2024 11:03 am

Zippster

November 15, 2024 10:56 am

Elon Musk renews push to defund NPR ahead of Trump’s second term

yes!

He can’t stand the sheila running the place. She’s 100% leftwing crazy, but not a bad looker.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 15, 2024 11:04 am

PHON’s fighting fund now $623k.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 11:04 am

One thing particularly noticeable about the Allen abomination of a mis government its sneakiness. Now it’s come out they’ve secretly changed the name of Berwick Springs lake to Curu Nanak Dev Ji. They are evil.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 11:06 am

I’ve also noticed they’re trying to change the name of Mt Franklin. The Vicco gubmint pubic serpent complex is caldron of marxist hate.

Arky
November 15, 2024 11:06 am

I would have exempted surgery in this evaluation, as I think the progress in surgery in our age has been astonishing. But even in this hallowed domain, the practice of orthopaedic surgery has been under the microscope in recent years. 

Surgeons make money by doing surgery.
They have to book the operating room and line up enough patients to bang through during the session,
The rest of their time is taken up procuring their victims patients.
If the trans hysteria has taught you anything it should be some of these bastards are more than happy to mutilate for profit.
Rather than naively wandering into a surgeons office because that is where the system dumped an individual, maybe take a little time to investigate the options.
If you do end up in a surgeon’s office, understand that if they accidentally took a truth potion before first sight of you, they might say something like “Hmmm, I’d really like to cut you open! I have eleven lined up for next Tuesday, I need twelve to make it really worthwhile. Now let’s have a look at your scan. Hmmmmm. Hmmmmm. Hmmmmm”.
It would be interesting to do an experiment: take some healthy, say, knees to a GP, complain about them hurting, and see how often that ended up with an invitation to be number twelve on some bloke’s roster.
I’d bet that most joints have something in them that could be technically justified to operate on.

cohenite
November 15, 2024 11:13 am

No surprise:

Lawsuit Alleges Trans College Volleyball Player Plotted to Cause Harm to Female Teammates

Trannies and their wacky supporters hate women and normal folk.

Vicki
November 15, 2024 11:15 am

Didn’t realise Bobby pumps iron. Wow – compared the the previous fat slag Chief health officer!!!!

https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1857175085758746751/photo/1

Vicki
November 15, 2024 11:17 am

President Trump has now delivered us more upgrades than Apple and Android engineers combined.

Oh- the fantastic comments abounding….

cohenite
November 15, 2024 11:21 am

Zippster

November 15, 2024 10:56 am

Elon Musk renews push to defund NPR ahead of Trump’s second term

yes!

He can’t stand the sheila running the place. She’s 100% leftwing crazy, but not a bad looker.

She’s as mad as a cut snake:

Katherine Maher : NPR

As for her looks: she has mad eyes. And she’s got a big chin. Women with big chins have a big dose of Testosterone churning around their bods. Sheilas can’t handle the male hormone; look at lezzos who get on the juice; they’re always on the bash.

Arky
November 15, 2024 11:23 am

Will de-regulation cause a temporary economic contraction as millions of non productive government employees are thrown on the unemployment rolls?
If so, how long might such a contraction last before a renewed private sector takes over?
Are there any cases in history of de-regulation minus the tariff cutting? WW2?

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JC
JC
November 15, 2024 11:23 am

Not sure what you’re on about here.

I took a look again and I think it’s pretty clear. What part didn’t you understand?

I don’t have to have any faith in the UN forecast if China already has twice the industrial production of the US and is, on the pessimistic end of forecasts, likely to be three times ahead in 2030 or four times, on the optimistic forecast. This is just the reality we have to recognize.

It’s only five years away, so, Allah willing, we’ll be able to look back and see if the Frog was right; that Chinese industrial production rose 45%. He sounds like Jacques Chirac, which is a bizarre mix of far-right and far-left. Really weird stuff. I forced myself to read a good part of his Twitter page, and it just confirmed that Arnie is pretty moronic.
In one post, he’s suggesting that China’s widening trade surplus is a sign that its economy isn’t imploding but actually moving in the opposite direction. It’s actually the reverse: a widening surplus indicates that domestic demand has fallen and therefore inventory is being exported.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 11:25 am

Remember Julie Rigg?

Julie Rigg – ABC Radio National

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 11:28 am

We’ve been paying for this for decades

Frank
Frank
November 15, 2024 11:33 am

Eva Longoria sounds like a true believer. All the other celebrities were getting paid handsomely to spout the lines but she seems like an absolute chump doing it for free.

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JC
JC
November 15, 2024 11:37 am

Someone’s asking if there’s an example of massive unemployment caused by a large-scale sacking of government employees, combined with a very large government deficit and debt.
The one example that comes to mind is the American demobilization after WWII. The number of people entering the job market was sudden and substantial, and it took about two years for the economy to adjust.

The hiring pickup was helped along because rationing ended, and there was massive latent demand for consumer goods and services.

This time around though there won’t be any large rise in people hitting the streets as there was after WW2 and there also won’t be any latent demand.

It shouldn’t be significant. However I wouldn’t want to be owning lots of residential or commercial real estate in the DC region. It will potentially get clocked. Actually, that could be a short if someone finds a REIT heavily into DC+ regional real estate. Trump sold his hotel a short while back. 🙂

calli
calli
November 15, 2024 11:41 am

Kathy, an X user whose bio reads, “It’s Palestine. It will always be Palestine,” wrote, “F**k you. I’m an offended Catholic. F**king have an Israeli play Mary? May you all be f**king smited. Blasphemous”

A word of advice from a non-offended Protestant.

You are giving satan a foot-hold in your life. Learn some self control. It is a Fruit of the Spirit.

Roger
Roger
November 15, 2024 11:42 am

The final blow to the Out of Africa theory has just been published.

Another one bites the dust!

Paleoanthropological theories of hominisation are more heuristic devices than scientific hypotheses based on sound methodology (and thus easily boiled down for popular consumption via the newspapers, which love them). The field suffers from a scarcity of data and a surplus of confirmation bias.

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JC
JC
November 15, 2024 11:44 am

Frank

November 15, 2024 11:33 am

I think Jimmy Kimmel announced he’s leaving after the election results. He said he won’t stay beyond January 2025. There are persistent rumors that he’s on Diddy’s list, which could be the incentive.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 15, 2024 11:47 am

More from Airstrip One.
Sectioning and a course of brain frying psychotropics are probably next.

Pogria
Pogria
November 15, 2024 11:52 am

Here’s a little cheer for the Ladies of the Cat.
A 1930’s Pattern Catalogue is brought to life through animation. BEAUTIFUL! The music is also great.

https://x.com/WomaninRedx/status/1857136764651245718

Cassie of Sydney
November 15, 2024 11:57 am

Last night a commentator here by the name of ‘Bluey’, who only seems to surface when I write comments, particularly when I write about Jews, Judaism and Israel (for some reason he gets triggered), wrote the following bilge…

I wonder how many of the Jews you’ve mentioned would rather been seen as Jews, or Australians?

I have no particular animosity toward Jews, but it strikes me as something that’s one of the major fault lines in the country, regardless or origin or religion. Where people have their primary identity as something other than Australian.

To quite President Woodrow Wilson “Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready.”

In the last year or so, actually as far as I can remember reading here, you’ve always declared your Jewishness, but I can’t remember you ever saying you’re Australian.

Now, normally I would ignore such slimy dross but you see, coming on the heels of Remembrance Day, I was reminded of perhaps the greatest Australian of all time, a man by the name of Sir John Monash, knighted on the battlefield by King George V. Sir John Monash was a proud Australian, a proud Jew and a proud Zionist, there was no particular order, he was just all three.

Approximately 6,500 Jewish men and women have served in the Colonial, Empire and Australian armed forces. Jews served with distinction in the Boer War, in World War I, in World War II, in Korea, in Vietnam, in Iraq and in Afghanistan. Jewish women served in the nursing corps. I happen to have met a Jew who fought in the ADF at the Battle of Long Tan. My grandfather served first in North Africa and then the Pacific. One of my best friend’s father, a Dunera boy, after he was released from the hell hole that was the Hay internment camp in outback NSW chose not to return to the UK but instead he enlisted in the ADF and served with distinction in North Africa and the Pacific.

When you walk into any synagogue across Australia, on entering you will immediately see monuments on the walls containing the names of scores of young Jewish men and women who served and died for this country, their surnames are the names of Jewish Australia…….Abrahams, Isaacs, Coleman, Rene, Hart, Samson, Nathan, Benjamin, Solomon, Lewis, Lew, Barnet, Simmons, Lawson, Montefiore, Wiseman, Simons, and so on. Many of these surnames are the names of my forebears. I could go on but I’ll stop there. You see, Bluey has tried to infer that there must be some conflict among Jews as to where their loyalty lies, a classic trope that has been used against Jews since antiquity. Somehow their loyalty is questionable, dubious, suspicious because they were and are proud Jews, they were and are proud Australians and they were and are proud Zionists. But you know what I think? I think the loyalty of John Monash and the 6,500 other Jewish men and women who fought for this country speaks for itself.

I’ll end with this this. Rabbi Shalom Coleman, once the Rabbi of Perth’s Orthodox Jewish community, was born into an Orthodox Jewish family on 5 December 1918 in Liverpool, UK, a quintessential Liverpudlian. Since his birth was less than one month after Armistice Day, he was given the name ‘Shalom’ by his parents. Growing up in Liverpool, he has clear memories of the late Queen’s birth, of the General Strike, of the 1929 crash, of the election of the Nazis in 1933, of Edward VIII’s abdication etc. Coleman gained a Bachelor of Arts with honours, and Bachelor of Letters in Hebrew and Ancient Semitic Languages and Egyptology, at the University of Liverpool. However his education was interrupted by World War II when he served with the Royal Air Force as a wireless operator/air gunner on missions in France and Western Europe. In 1944 he was recruiting officer in England for the Jewish Brigade Group. The Jewish brigades saw action in against the Wehrmacht in Italy and Germany.

I write the above because Rabbi Shalom Coleman is about to turn 106 years old next month. He still lives in Perth, in Jewish care. He still has a current driver’s licence and he is still permitted to drive around the block in Yokine (with his carer). He remains one amazing man. And yes, he’s one proud Jew, he’s one proud Australian, he’s one proud Zionist and…and….he’s also one proud and very staunch Monarchist. So, does this mean that Rabbi Coleman, because he’s a fervent monarchist, is further ‘conflicted’? I mean, using Bluey’s slimy logic, you could argue a monarchist also has his/her primary identity as something other than Australian, and you could argue that a monarchist ‘values everything else, except being Australian.‘ Or perhaps Bluey just applies that to Jews.

KevinM
KevinM
November 15, 2024 12:07 pm

GreyRanga
November 15, 2024 11:51 am

They’ll be into him for insider trading citing he had it mind when he became President again.

I know you are half joking, but see my comment above.

The vultures will be all over him, for all sorts of things, not in any hope of winning or convicting him, but just to tie him up in the proceedings, even he can’t concentrate fully on other matters while engaged in courts.

The left has no scruples, no mercy in their hearts.
And definitely no care for the well-being of the citizens, unless it accidentally coincides with their plan and then they take credit.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 12:09 pm

I don’t think Woodrow Wilson is worthy of being quoted. One of the worst.

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calli
calli
November 15, 2024 12:15 pm

Bluey’s “primary identity” might be Troll.

What astonished me (and made me rather proud) was the singing of the Australian National Anthem at my child’s wedding reception. Spontaneous, unforced, I assume now that this is what is done at these events.

I’ve never been to a non-Jewish event where this has happened.

Try that on for size.

Roger
Roger
November 15, 2024 12:17 pm

…it strikes me as something that’s one of the major fault lines in the country, regardless or origin or religion. Where people have their primary identity as something other than Australian.

Identity is multi-faceted, such that ethnic origins and religion almost always play their parts in it. ‘Australian’ is a nationality and also a cultural identity. But is it a primary identity? Most Christians would say they are also citizens of Christ’s kingdom and that is their primary identity, something they are reminded of from time to time by governments in the land, most recently with abortion laws. There will always be tensions in this area, but that doesn’t necessarily mean those who experience them are disloyal. More a loyal opposition, perhaps? That is also part of our culture and national identity.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 15, 2024 12:18 pm

Rent a panda.

Pandas Wang Wang and Fu Ni depart Australia after 15 years (Sky News, 15 Nov)

South Australia’s pandas Wang Wang and Fu Ni have left Australia. The pair flew out of Adelaide this morning and will land in China after a 15-year residency down under.

And now the lease has expired. I wonder what two slightly used pandas are worth in China?

Kneel
Kneel
November 15, 2024 12:24 pm

Where people have their primary identity as something other than Australian.”

So that makes Jewish-Australians sus, eh?
What about:
Christian-Australians
Islamic-Australians

or even…

Aboriginal-Australians

All sus you see – they are all conflicted, same as our dear Cassie.

I would rather take account of them all personally, based on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin or the name of the religion they follow.
If they are good, tolerant people then I see no conflict.
If they use their “identity” to stoke division and hatred, then they need to become more tolerant or face some sort of penalty for the troubles they cause to others.
And historically, Jews have been not just tolerant, but citizens of great value and renown, as Cassie rightly points out. This is something for Cassie and her people to be rather proud of, IMO – so very few other “groups” can make the same claim.

Lysander
Lysander
November 15, 2024 12:27 pm

Oh dear, it appears I’ve upset Anne Aly. I wrote to her last night and asked why she laughed at Elbow’s tourette’s comment and called her out for being a terrorist sympathiser.

Highly unusual but she wrote back and said “come to my office and say these things to my face.” Maybe she’d had a few?

I wrote back: “Book a time.”

Arky
November 15, 2024 12:27 pm

Identity politics reaches it’s nadir after the US election:
Democrats not sure whether to blame the misogyny of “black and coloured” men; or the racism of “white women” for their defeat.
Or is it the “self loathing, internalised -isms”?
These people have taken the genuine concerns of minorities and women and turned them into a mockery.
Any man who watched his wife struggle with a difficult delivery has probably asked himself some pretty deep and pertinent questions about abortion. Fear of loss concentrates the mind.
Likewise with race, no one is oblivious or immune to the issues.

Bill From the Bush
Bill From the Bush
November 15, 2024 12:30 pm

Well it is now 4 days since I emailed Dutton asking for some answers to questions I had.
I received an automated response that the email had been received and then silence has reigned.
Do I take this to mean he doesn’t give a flying fcuk about what I and many others like me think and assumes we will vote for him anyway?
If that is the case, he is destined to be an also ran in the conservative race.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 15, 2024 12:56 pm

I’m really missing mutley telling us how Kameltoe is beating DJT hands down. I just can’t think how it turned out like this. Shirley he wasn’t wrong? Mmmm Friday today, wrong. Saturday tomorrow, wrong. Sunday the day after, wrong. Am I seeing a pattern? Some will think I’m being mean. Wrong, just like mutley. What he brings to this site is the sure knowledge that his view is the hive view, nothing else.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 15, 2024 1:01 pm

Like the Israelis, they are a Semitic people and entitled to control their ancestral land.”

Crete?

That was what I learned – that the word Paelestina was derived from the Philistines who themselves originated from Crete.

It would explain the fall of the Minoan Palaces – some lunatic charging into temples and such, ripping open his shirt to show his suicide vest and shouting whatever the Minoan words ‘Allen’ and ‘Light Refreshments Kiosk’.

The suicide vest obviously could not have explosives though. They would have to have a couple of hammers and a range of chisels to start chipping away at the building they are standing in.

Same in spirit though.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 1:01 pm

The whole thing about ‘D&I’ is that it specifically excludes white guys. As I’ve said about the Comm Bank ATM visuals, it seems they don’t want white guys from customers.

Vicki
November 15, 2024 1:04 pm

Yep. Dr. Ian Harris is an orthopaedic surgeon who recanted on much of the work done on hips and knees. Written two books, “”Hippocracy” & “Surgery. The Ultimate Placebo”. 

When a much younger man, husband had a lot of trouble with one knee. His orthopaedic specialist – a personal friend – did an arthroscopy, but knee continued to give trouble. New knee needed – he proclaimed. Instead we bought our present farm. What with climbing up and down on tractors and copious other tasks, knee miraculously lost pain! 
But there are also tragic examples of long term back surgery. A Sydney friend had extensive back surgery years ago – with screws and other mechanisms inserted in her spine. I doubt if she has ever been free of pain – but is a “trooper”. Of late the pain became quite bad – her specialist told her that screws had become loose – yada yada. So 6 weeks ago she underwent serious surgery to correct these “issues”. Post – op she was virtually delirious with pain, despite very very heavy painkillers. After all that time in hospital (during which her surgeon took a trip OS), she has finally come home & it is bearable. I pray that it will be manageable for her. 
Meanwhile another friend is about to undergo neck surgery. Do you have pain, I asked. No, she said, but an X-ray showed that the “cushioning between vertebra had “gone” & if I had a fall, I might break my neck (!).
I said nothing. What can you say? My Sydney friends rarely listen to me, anyway. They think I read too much.

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Eyrie
Eyrie
November 15, 2024 1:04 pm

 I think the progress in surgery in our age has been astonishing

Plumbing they *can* do.

Lysander
Lysander
November 15, 2024 1:06 pm

Sir John Monash was a proud Australian, a proud Jew and a proud Zionist, there was no particular order, he was just all three.

Cassie, I was born in Australia but both my parents and family, forever and back to the days of the Gauls, are Irish (we’re all dual citizens). I’m Catholic but belong to a Catholic group that practices many (and I mean MANY!!!!) Jewish traditions.

We have the Shema on our door lintel (crooked as prescribed), we say it every morning and every evening. We sing the (Davidic) psalms every morning, our Easter is a passover; we stay up all night and do the entire history of salvation, including a spot where the children get to ask the adults “why is this night so different,” as well as the great song of Moses (“He has thrown into the sea, horse and rider!”), we scrutinise the word weekly. I won’t disclose the other things we do as I don’t want to lose my reward.

So, given all of this, I identify as… who cares. I love both of my countries and my religion (and I also love any country that supports Israel) and I don’t doubt you don’t love yours too!

KevinM
KevinM
November 15, 2024 1:06 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
November 15, 2024 10:34 am

Sounds like fun.

The world is upside down.
It’s perfectly fine for a black actress to play a white queen, but for a Jewish actress to play a Jewish mother is not?

I am not into religion, but I assume Mary was Jewish?
Open to corrections.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 1:19 pm

Elon Musk renews push to defund NPR ahead of Trump’s second term

The jaws of the trap are pulled back and there’s tension on the spring.
As soon as the usual Hollyweird and Show-Biz types (Swifty, Springsteen de Niro etc) bleat about “valuable public service” and “essential to promoting discourse on matters of great import to the American people*” the answer is simple.
“Well, you pay for it”.

* In this context “American people” is defined as “the 9% of hard left types who agree with me.”

KevinM
KevinM
November 15, 2024 1:24 pm

Lysander
November 15, 2024 12:27 pm

Oh dear, it appears I’ve upset Anne Aly.

Seeing that we were talking about alliances.

According to her wiki entry her nationality is; Australian, Egyptian.

Which one does she like best or prefer to use?

Frank
Frank
November 15, 2024 1:25 pm

My Sydney friends rarely listen to me, anyway. They think I read too much.

I wonder about that sometimes, it seems that a lot of people I meet don’t read at all and worse, are unaware of the fact.

JC
JC
November 15, 2024 1:26 pm

This is Monty-level cop. Arnaud immediately follows up with:

While this output these days is Homer Paxton level bilge only with better articulation.

Arnaud Bertrand
@RnaudBertrand
Few people understand how radical a change this is: ever since the industrial revolution in the 18th century (and up until just a few years ago), the West dominated production.
The fact China now does – in such a big way – means we’re witnessing a geopolitical shift unseen in over 250 years (hence the sentence Xi Jinping loves to repeat all the time: ????????, “major changes unseen in a century”).

Chirac thinks big here.

Note the focus on the shift of location for global industrial production, which has already largely materialised.

Nothing dramatically hinges on ‘45%’, since the difference will be between 4:1 or 3:1 in favour of China.

It’s a 45% increase in 5 years? That’s total nonsense. Five years? We heard similar talk in the ’80s about Japan—how its manufacturing prowess was going to turn the country into a superpower and how MITI (Ministry of Trade and Industry), choker full with geniuses, would lead the charge with Industrial policy. Nothing of the sort happened. The same, if not worse, is occurring in China, where the return on capital is minuscule. Arnie Chirac is appears excited and in some sort excited trance.

Lysander
Lysander
November 15, 2024 1:27 pm

Please just p!ss off!!!

Nancy Pelosi files paperwork to run again — plans are vague

“Pelosi 2026”

Ugh.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 1:32 pm

Yep and deadshits in SFO will vote for the foul old woman.

KevinM
KevinM
November 15, 2024 1:36 pm

Bit of levity to lighten up the convo.
Or make you cringe.

Hope the mud has the cash.

mud
Lysander
Lysander
November 15, 2024 1:36 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 1:38 pm

We heard similar talk in the ’80s about Japan—how its manufacturing prowess was going to turn the country into a superpower and how MITI (Ministry of Trade and Industry), choker full with geniuses, would lead the charge with Industrial policy. Nothing of the sort happened.

Yes this is true- Japan was going to take over the world. This was even suggested in Kennedy’s the rise and fall of the great powers c1988

Roger
Roger
November 15, 2024 1:41 pm

Australia has become the sick man of the anglosphere under Albanese,

Our GDP per hour worked has dropped to 2016 levels, leaving us in the wake of New Zealand, Canada, the UK and the US.

The bloated Commonwealth and state public service sector is dragging us down, along with the growth in government funded NDIS related positions.

This presents a problem for Dutton & Taylor that may prove insurmountable – how do they sell the necessary economic reforms when so many people are on the government’s teat?

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KevinM
KevinM
November 15, 2024 1:42 pm

Maybe this will entice M0nty to come back?

Apple Doughnut Balls

nuts
Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 1:47 pm

It is extraordinary how Japan has faded- still think Jap cars are the best but I reckon Korean cars are pretty good too.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 15, 2024 1:48 pm

Even more politicians!

A new poll has found Townsville is the most popular choice for the capital of a North Queensland state, with support for breaking away from the south also strongest in that city.

Katter’s Australian Party leader Robbie Katter, whose voter base were the strongest backers of a new state, said he was “agnostic’’ on the capital.
But he suggested a split Cairns/Townsville administration could address longheld rivalries between the two.

The demosAU poll of 913 people found KAP voters were the most in favour of splitting Queensland, followed by LNP voters.

Support dropped off the further south respondents lived, with only one-third of those in Mackay, Whitsunday and central Queensland saying they were in favour.

Just over half of Townsville-area residents said they would vote yes if there were a referendum on creating a new state, with 49 per cent in the far north also saying they would vote yes.

Which town should be the capital of a north Qld state?
Townsville 56 %
Cairns 17 %
Mackay 6 %
Rockhampton 8 %
Gladstone 2 %
Mount Isa 5 %
Somewhere else 6 %

1610 votes

Courier-Mail

JC
JC
November 15, 2024 1:50 pm

Yes this is true- Japan was going to take over the world. This was even suggested in Kennedy’s the rise and fall of the great powers c1988

The Shanghai Index has barely moved since 2010. Despite two recent support packages intended to relieve economic pressure from the real estate collapse, the stock market remains unconvinced of any forthcoming improvement. The combined debt of Beijing and the provinces is estimated to be around 350% of GDP. The banking system is in trouble and there’s. deflationary tendency. Where’s the capital going to come finance this massive increase in industrial production? Aliens from the sky?

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 1:54 pm

This presents a problem for Dutton & Taylor that may prove insurmountable – how do they sell the necessary economic reforms when so many people are on the government’s teat?

Steady as she goes- I know people out in the real world are very pissed off at the amount of tax they pay.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 15, 2024 1:54 pm

Anne Aly

Remember it is all taqiyya.

JC
JC
November 15, 2024 1:56 pm

Miltonf

November 15, 2024 1:47 pm

It is extraordinary how Japan has faded- still think Jap cars are the best but I reckon Korean cars are pretty good too.

There’s a newish brand that’s come onto the market that I’d had noticed before. It’s may not be new, but the models they have are quite interesting. Genesis. I checked out some models in the CBD arcade one time. The doors felt really flimsy. Even so, they could give a kraut luxury models a decent run.

Crossie
Crossie
November 15, 2024 1:58 pm

Roger

 November 15, 2024 12:17 pm

…it strikes me as something that’s one of the major fault lines in the country, regardless or origin or religion. Where people have their primary identity as something other than Australian.

Identity is multi-faceted. ‘Australian’ is a nationality and also a cultural identity. But is it a primary idetntity?

Roger, I have more questions. Has this person applied the same standard to those calling themselves Palestinian Australians, Lebanese Australians, Syrian Australians, Iraqi and so on? Unequal application of standards is straight out bias.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:01 pm

Yeah Genesis is upmarket Hyundai- like Toyota and Lexus. For many years I regarded Hyundais as rubbish but mine’s been flawless and also very kool.

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Roger
Roger
November 15, 2024 2:02 pm

I know people out in the real world are very pissed off at the amount of tax they pay.

Yet Dutton has just ruled that tax cuts are off the Liberal election agenda.
Go figure.

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 15, 2024 2:03 pm

This presents a problem for Dutton & Taylor that may prove insurmountable – how do they sell the necessary economic reforms when so many people are on the government’s teat?

A lot of people’s knowledge of economics remains what they learned in school – keynesianism. It is not challenged because every economic expert they hear or read is also Keynesian. They all think that government spending money makes them richer.

There will be a rebuttal to this soon enough though in the form of a resurgent US. People here will get jealous that they seem to be having good times.

Then they might be a bit more receptive to arguments like the reason they cannot go on nice holidays or buy that new TV is because the bit of wealth they could have used for it was confiscated to pay a shiny-bum to sit in a government department doing nothing.

As long as someone articulates it loud enough.

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Muddy
Muddy
November 15, 2024 2:04 pm

If ideas are the product, could the relationship between grubbermint and the legacy media be classed as a cartel?

Initially, the answer would have to be ‘no’ because of the lack of formal agreement between parties, but with taxpayer-funded ‘awareness’ campaigns keeping a decent chunk of an outdated business model afloat, might the description of cartel-like behaviour still be applicable?

Serious question.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:05 pm

The Renault Koleos is built in Korea too by Samsung.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 15, 2024 2:05 pm

Oh! New word to describe life in poverty:

A Dikeynesian hell-hole.

Geddit?

Ahhh…never mind.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:06 pm

Yet Dutton has just ruled that tax cuts off the Liberal election agenda.
Go figure

Another job for Advance.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:11 pm

they have had the extra wealth confiscated to pay a shiny-bum to make work in a government department.

I think that idea has been widely accepted but then I tend to hang out with tradies and small business types.

JC
JC
November 15, 2024 2:15 pm

Still stuck on the 45.

Yeah, people sometimes get stuck on facts. That appears to be a real problem, yeah?

Anyway, the Japanese never surpassed the US in share of global production although they were neck and neck at certain moments.

Good point. Arnie Chirac is expecting a much bigger play, 45% of the world’s entire production in 5 years achieved by almost a 50% increase in Chinese production over the same period. Yeah.

The Chinese have not only surpassed the US in share of global production, they are now double and on route to being either three or four times ahead. It’s just head-in-the-sand thinking this has no geopolitical consequences.

It seems you’ve fixated on the US right now, when the real point of Chirac’s argument wasn’t solely about the US but about the entire world. And the truth is, it’s not going to happen. Even if there’s no war, China will be struggling by 2030.
One more thing, which you’ve ignored—Arnie Chirac was applauding China’s trade surplus. You realize that with anemic domestic demand, like what we’re currently seeing in China, a rising trade surplus is actually a sign of weakness rather than strength.
To offset what’s happening domestically, Satan’s spawn (Xi) has been pushing manufacturers to maximize exports. This isn’t a show of economic strength; it’s deep concern about the state of the internal economy.

Tom
Tom
November 15, 2024 2:17 pm

Haha. The new lead story at Paywallian.com:

China tells other world leaders: be like Albanese

Beijing has nominated Anthony Albanese as the leader other American allies should emulate, ahead of a meeting between the PM and Xi Jinping in Peru.

What a winner! Emperor Xi is running Elbow’s re-election campaign.

Eyrie
Eyrie
November 15, 2024 2:27 pm

China tells other world leaders: be like Albanese

Flat on the table on his stomach with his pants down and legs spread?

Ceres
Ceres
November 15, 2024 2:28 pm

Notice how the MSM are gung ho for restrictons on social media?”

Daughter tells me parents already have the ability on iphones to set a time limit for social media access or one can set a numeric access code for those sites. That’s what she does with her 12 year old.
No reason for the rest of us to have our privacy and lots more taken from us under the guise of govt just “protecting the kids”. We’ve heard that one before. No way thanks. Get lost.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 2:28 pm

JC
 November 15, 2024 1:26 pm

This is Monty-level cop. Arnaud immediately follows up with:

While this output these days is Homer Paxton level bilge only with better articulation.

Arnaud Bertrand

Is he any relation to Plastic Bertrand?
https://youtu.be/RDHjeiys3a0?si=tgra7DR6lrSOzypC

Pogria
Pogria
November 15, 2024 2:37 pm

SNORK!!
Victorian Jobs Minister give a lengthy speech at a pricey Tech conference about the awesomeness of A-one. bwahahahahaha

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14084833/tech-council-speech-bronwyn-halfpenny-AI.html

I wonder how much this Monkey is paid in our tax dollars.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 15, 2024 2:45 pm

I see some people are sceptical of surgeons, maybe with reasonable cause.
Are they charlatans?
A bit of a generalisation.
Cosmetic and perky tit surgeons? Almost certainly.
Orthopaedic surgeons? Hmmm. A bit more of a grey area. Look, all professions suffer from “if I’m a hammer, everything is a nail” syndrome. Sometimes the actual result doesn’t always meet expectations but that can be a result of many things … surgeon overselling it, patient thinking the knee op will turn them into a teenager again, patient not doing rehab properly.
A mate went to an Orthopaedic surgeon with a bung shoulder. He sent him away to try physio first before he would operate.
He’s my man if I ever need something like that looked at.
My experience?
Surgeon saved my life, so …

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:45 pm

Yep daughter of commo John Halfpenny. The Vicco gubmint is really something.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:47 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:49 pm

So many tenth rate crumby wimmin

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:50 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:52 pm

Shocking really how USELESS these mediocrities really are. D’Ambrosio is another one.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 2:53 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 15, 2024 2:55 pm

Muddy, my wife opined your sentiments last night. Went on to describe goverment and MSM over the misinformation bill in most undignified language. Most unlike her.

calli
calli
November 15, 2024 2:56 pm

Victorian Jobs Minister gives a lengthy speech at a pricey Tech conference about the awesomeness of A-one

well-thats-a-level-of-incompetent-weve-not-seen-before-coffee-ecard
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calli
calli
November 15, 2024 2:57 pm

What is Monty level cop?

Does it come with doughnuts?

calli
calli
November 15, 2024 3:05 pm

Been reflecting on the appointment of RFK Jnr as US Health Poohbah.

Can’t see a downside. It’s going to annoy everyone. And especially his wizened-up, disapproving, rustedon family.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 3:08 pm

Must admit I’m a bit dubious about RFK Jr. I’m sure the great one knows what he’s doing though.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 15, 2024 3:10 pm

The only ones I really know anything about are Musk and Vance. Should be awesomely awesome with those two helping the Donald.

JC
JC
November 15, 2024 3:12 pm

Yeah, people sometimes get stuck on facts. That appears to be a real problem, yeah?

The 45% of global industrial production doesn’t purport to be a fact, its just a forecast.

Stop confusing things.

45% is “Plastic Bertrand’s” forecast. 45% is also the increase required in order to reach 45% of the global economy from the current base. I wasn’t referring to the forecast. It’s factual.

I don’t know what Arnaud expects. I know he thinks its ‘stunning’ that this is a possibility, but likely an optimistic forecast. But, he is probably more stunned by the trend over the last three decades, which is the reversal in the ratio between the US and China. Wholeheartedly agree.

ummm no. “Plastic Bertrand” was excited about the UN forecast.

What’s not going to happen? The 40% of global industrial output or the 45? Either way, it doesn’t make a significant difference.

Even though it’s not going to happen, even at a 10% compound annual increase the best they could achieve is around 35% as was explained. Have a look at the comment above referring to this.

Yes, I think that’s the best spin China-sceptics put on the situation. Not sure it plays out as is typically thought but I’m interested to observe how it will over the next few years.

There’s no spin, unless you’re referring to Xi’s spin. He’s the directed the economy to improve on the complexity of output and raise exports.

But I’m interested here in your thoughts.

No more signficant foreign investment is going into China because of political risk.
In fact firms are moving factories offshore and away from China.
The real estate market has caused a balance sheet problem in the banking system.
Chinese businesses are scared shitless of Xi in case they do something that upsets him and they disappear.
Where’s the capital investment going to come from in this environment?

Can you ask Plastic, his thoughts on all this?

One last thing. A trade surplus means there’s a corresponding deficit in the capital account. A deficit in the capital account means that domestic investors are looking overseas because the rate of return in the domestic market isn’t attractive.

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