Open Thread – Mon 11 Sept 2023
1,553 responses to “Open Thread – Mon 11 Sept 2023”
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DrBeauGan
Sep 13, 2023 5:09 PMIt’s an educational failure. The teachers haven’t let their students discover their inadequacies. It’s gone on for generations now, and too late to fix it. We’re finished. All civilisations fall apart eventually; all we can do is enjoy the decadence.
Having just spoken to my youngest 5th grade grandchild today on his 11th birthday, I congratulated him on winning the school spelling competition against the the 6th graders as well. He advised me he only just won because if he’d been given the word spelled incorrectly by his last opponent (a girl) then he’d have lost. He said to me he was just lucky.
My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.
I’ll continue to look to the younger generation and listen.
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Oh noes.
Heatwave could smash September weather records for Melbourne, Sydney within days (Sky News mainpage headline,13 Sep)
Over the coming days, temperatures are set to soar for millions of Australians.
Summer-like conditions will take hold in two waves, and even though we aren’t through the first round of hot temperatures, we are already starting to look at the second round.
This is because we are likely to see some of the hottest temperatures over the next couple of weeks.
The heat that builds in through the end of the weekend and into next week could rival September temperature records in some of our capital cities.
Adelaide and areas of South Australia are likely to see temperatures heighten into Monday.
Currently, Adelaide is forecasted to see a high of 29C
How horrifying is that, 29 C! Last week I was amused to look at the local Ncl forecast which said we’d get to 24 C. The peak that day was 20.8 C at the nearest BoM weather station.
The models are getting increasingly out of kilter with reality. So is Newscorp.
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More on the Qantas Chairman’s Lounge rolling disaster, even from the ABC
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Wabbit season.
Victorian Labor Party could lose seats if Premier Daniel Andrews bans duck hunting following key recommendation (Sky News, 13 Sep)
Local politics seems somewhat cartoonish lately. Maybe the wiley Mr Andrews should stop buying stuff from ACME.
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Trickles
personally I’m satisfied that there’s a likely and rational explanation.
I’m also happy to explore other theories and cant see the harm in interrogating all of them
the Duk said something stinks and I think that’s still true.
likely, we’ll never know for sureIn my working life I get all the hard problems.
The intractable ones.
The ones where every monkey has had a go at it.When its weird and nobody can work it out then almost always it isnt one single thing, there are often multiple modes
usually goes all the way back to bad engineering assumptionsin the WTC case, I have to draw the line at vapourizing steel
on that one
… bit of a yeah … but nah thing
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My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.
With the destruction of our energy supplies on the basis of idiotic theories about anthropogenic global warming, and the wrecking of our education system by loonie lefties, the conservative youth revolution isn’t going to have much to conserve.
Civilisational collapse doesn’t happen overnight, so there’s still time for BoN to enjoy his Grant Burge. But if your technocrats can’t add 1/2 to 1/3, they won’t be able to maintain a technic civilisation. Once the underpinnings fail, the collapse is inevitable. Like the trade centre, just a lot slower.
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My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.
I’ll continue to look to the younger generation and listen.
P, I think your grandson is right. Kids need something to rebel against and the only way they can go is right. We have just about reached the degenerate and permissive extreme.
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Fish in a barrel news.
Russia’s Navy Port At Sevastopol On Fire After Massive Ukraine Missile Attack (13 Sep)
It’s always been the problem for the Russians: the Black Sea is more like a lake than a sea. The Turks by comparison could always withdraw their fleet into the Med, but the Russian Black Sea Fleet can’t do that. It was only a few weeks ago that Ukrainian sea-drones nearly sank a large Russian naval ship in Novorossiysk on the far side of the Black Sea. The Russian Black Sea Fleet is going to be history fairly soon, it looks like, killed by drones.
Drone warfare is rapidly advancing in this war. I suspect, as usual, we’ll get left behind.
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History as we know it is a lie. There was clearly a more advanced civilization going in the past.
Was Henry Kissinger trolling when his book, World Order featured Tartaria on the book cover?
So many questions.
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Jarid Boosters:
Today we will take a look through some of the earliest, and rarest, photographs of Venice, Italy. These images will be from an assortment of sources, however, the bulk of these images will date to before the year 1900, and come to us from the collections of 19th century photographer Carlo Ponti.
What stands out to me in these photographs is the cleanliness of the city, which has a history dating back numerous centuries. We will discuss briefly Carlo Ponti, his contributions to photography, and his inventions. We will then dive deeper into the current accepted history of Venice. Many of the buildings, and their facades, appear to be brand new, or freshly renovated in these 19th century images.
As always, I thank you so much for joining me today, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas about Venice, Carlo Ponti, and the Old World photographs in the comment section down below!
Pre-1900 Venice, Italy: Photographs by Carlo Ponti; Alethoscope & The “Great Council” [Old World]
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H B Bear
Sep 13, 2023 6:35 PM
My grandson who is in yr11 tells me there will be a shift back to the right which he calls the Conservative Youth Revolution.The yoof (at least some of them) know they are being screwed on housing.
My granddaughter is not a happy camper. Now that she is working and the car paid off she was hoping to save for a deposit for a unit but with rising prices she doesn’t see it happening for many years.
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Alan Clark, in “Barbarossa” tells the story of Marshal of the Soviet Union , S.M. Budenny, as First Deputy Commissar for Defense in 1940, visiting the newly annexed province of Bessarabia. A party was given in his honor at a local distillery. Towards the close of festivities, a canvas screen was ripped off the largest vat, which had been filled, one and a half meter’s deep, with red wine. A number of naked girls were disporting themselves, in said vat. Budenny and his aides threw off their clothes and joined the girls in the vat. The baccalia gathered momentum, until another guest, disgruntled at not being able to climb in, fired a long burst at it with a sub-machine gun. Three of the occupants were wounded, and the orgy moved to more comfortable quarters at the back of the building.
I don’t remember any such conduct at dining in nights in the A.D.F, have any other Cats heard such stories?
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Incontrovertible proof that DEWs have been planned for years.
https://youtu.be/Ei_GZnrr1nw?si=9KV442c8yvlR4kLx
The Alan Parsons Project did Eye in the Sky. That was a deliberate hint, folks.
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If he did, it wasn’t the major part of his thesis which was Trumpster would win.
Here are three of his predictions: Baris c/w CNBC Reuters NYT
AZ T+3; B+3; +2; +6; final B+0.3
MI B+2; +7; +10; +8; final B +2.8
WI B+3; +8; +10; +11; final B+0.7He did very well. As to his major thesis, if you look at his numbers they are only slightly in favour of Trump. He had him winning AZ and FL, PA was a toss up, and MI and WI were losses.
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“Truth” is whatever they say it is.
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Once drew Russia in a play by mail game of Diplomacy. In those days there was quite a subculture of such things, with zines giving the progress of several games at a time.
So, as you do I did in the first turn the usual F Sev – BLA. But I’d negotiated with the Turks and convinced him that we could do the Juggernaut. It’s a Russo-Turkish alliance to sweep westward like the Mongols (see Richard Sharp’s marvelous book The Game Of Diplomacy, which I found one day deep in bowels of the Fisher Library.) Very hard to stop.
With a bit of carrot dangling the Italians came on board, but they never seemed to get anywhere. Nor did the Turks, it was a mystery. When the dagger went in Turkey melted like snow in the Sahara. 😀
Kennedy and Kissinger used to play Diplomacy in the White House. Damn fine boardgame.
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left over paella
extra fried prawns, chorizo and garlic with sherry vinegar and coriander
salad of cos, shallot, and orange segments with a mustard and white wine vinaigrette
back in 20 minutes
actually no … gonna watch Greyhound
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Now that she is working and the car paid off she was hoping to save for a deposit for a unit but with rising prices she doesn’t see it happening for many years.
Without some form of inheritance getting into housing without being able to make a dent in the principal really just leaves you reliant on capital gains and inflation. Unfortunately without the discipline of a mortgage all too easy to keep consuming income without any real assets to show for it – like mUnty.
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This is truly enlightening. Tucker takes less than 5 minutes to explain in a completely plausible way why Trump is so hated by the PTB, and probably also his popularity with the man in the street.
*MUST WATCH* Tucker SHOCKS The Crowd When He says This about Donald Trump & The Deep State..
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What is under Venice? A massive foundation of oak piles, gradually petrifying and…sinking. Marvellous that it has lasted so long.
I’d love to return to see the wonders, but not in the rain.
Twenty two years ago + a week, I had it all to myself. The streets almost deserted. An early morning walk, watching all the day’s produce landed by boat, shuttered windows opening, the tiny city coming to life.
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Things are going to plan, then.
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All he does is speak his mind.
I just woke up to see I hit 2 million followers …
Do I get a cookie or something?
Thank you to everyone who listens to my stupid BS.
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The building at the beginning. Anyone that thinks it was constructed in two years?
No effin way.
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The building at the beginning. Anyone that thinks it was constructed in two years?
Yes.
If it was BS you could read newspaper articles about it in 1903 and 1905.
Unless you believe that America was a giant sham the European powers all agreed to hide the “secret Moorish and Templar history!” of the Americas.
Richmond has newspapers going back to 1815.
Your silly fantasies are easy to point and laugh at.
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Did any cats watch the Peta Credlin, Jacinta Price interview this evening?
It was enthralling. Tomorrow night on Credlin will be a documentary produced in part, by Jacinta about the reality lived by the Aborigines in country.
Not to be missed. Jacinta just becomes stronger and stronger the more evil is thrown her way. Some filthy turd published her phone number so you can imagine the threats and vile filth that has been left on her phone. -
Creating the “science” to support their wishes.
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I can hear Albanese already “An inheritance tax will only hit the Tories. It will only hit the big end of town.
To be fair someone mentioned death duties and the ALP ran away screaming yesterday. Which means they know it’s the hottest hot button issue in voterland.
‘Not on the agenda’: Labor Senator denies government is considering inheritance tax idea raised by new productivity commission head (Sky News, 12 Sep)
The Albanese government has strongly denied it is considering imposing an inheritance tax, with Labor’s Deborah O’Neill declaring it is “absolutely… not on the agenda”.
They wants it, gollum gollum.
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Three cheers for the Awesome Kamahl.
He’s voting NO, and has memed Farnham’s Your the Voice. Has placed his own spin on it. 😀
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I received a text message from Jacinta Price today reminding me to vote No and check out why. We’ve applied for postal votes but unlikely they will be delivered in time.
We applied in the first hour they were out.I am exhausted today. Dance class, quite a drive to get there, coffee with the girls, then a hunt for a JP to sign a Stat Dec re my autistic son. There was a JP in this shopping centre yesterday, said a girlfriend, but he fell off his chair and they had to call an ambulance. That’s because most JP’s are retired old public serpents. Why there can’t be a better system of getting a form signed I don’t know, rather than relying on old age pensioners belonging to some arcane club turning up at libraries or shopping centres to pour over documents and stamp them once they’ve seen your ID. Every post office could do it. For a fee too if necessary. We trust them with the mail don’t we? Instead, we search out these aged folk who keep Biden’s sort of hours, and urgent documents can go hang.
Then I have email converse with my ex about our autistic son and he sends me a tract on how the planet is exploding with the Dreadful Heat which my galivanting around the earth is doing nothing to ameliorate. Too effing bad, I reply, in a more moderated tone than that, but you all know what my deep dark thoughts really were.
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The best advice I could give your granddaughter, Crossie, is to put her spare money while she is trying to work up a deposit into a good share fund. At least she’ll get some capital growth over the medium to long term which may help her to keep up. The interest rates on cash deposits are still below the rate of inflation.
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I did make some conversation about the Federation drought, and the many bushfires of previous years starting at 1840 or before and extending to the recent conflagrations; conflagrations which it seems Sydney is now trying to halt, given the choking smoke through Sydney on this beautiful calm day as back burning proceeds, not apace though, as they are heaps behind schedule for the vast acreage to be done.
Effing trees. My greenie neighbours are giving me the tom-tits about the sounds of chains saws coming from our place yesterday. Oh the poor trees, etc. Well, that huge cypress was actually under the foundations of our building, I point out, planted as an ornamental fifty years ago, and the other one was dead for twenty feet up in the throng of trees on our property; only the green top showed any life. Oh, but it was green, they moan. Tough titty, I say. I am all admiration for the young man who single-handedly took them out, for paltry cash. Such skill in dropping trees is rare.
And he knows the name of every tree on the place, such scholarship as is not often seen. Luckily, he hates cypress trees. -
Bogan.
There have always been ignorant nitwits in the pubs pontificating on things they knew nothing about. Informed people ignored it. The problems arise when the ‘elites’ are also ignorant nitwits. Such is now the case.
But are you sure you’re counting correctly? We hear the squeals of the “elites” you’re referring to more often because they are the loudest and get the most airtime on msm. You should be concerned about the reserved people. These are the people who are quiet about their opinions, etc.
I’ll use an illustration. I have a close relationship with a younger individual who works for one of the major US IT companies – in fact probably the largest. Outside, there is constant talk about how left-wing they are and how the staff are proud supporters of the deranged left. Even though the majority lean left, this person believes that the people s/he works with are split roughly 60/40. Right-leaning people are mute and never voice their opinions. A few people mumble that they back Trump. Don’t think that the loudest suggests the rest are leftwing loons.
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A very impressive intro with those flags. Doing that in Australia would cause outrage!
Cash!
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Cash 2.0 Great Dane at Ride To The Flags 2023 Malibu Bluffs Park (1 of 3)
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Chris Dawson’s former student sues NSW over her sexual abuse
By Georgina Mitchell and Michaela Whitbourn
September 13, 2023 — 4.47pmThe former schoolgirl with whom convicted wife killer Chris Dawson had an unlawful sexual relationship is suing the state of NSW for damages, claiming it failed to protect her from being groomed and sexually abused by the Cromer High School teacher.
In documents filed in the NSW Supreme Court, the woman alleges she fell pregnant in about 1981, at the age of 16, “and had an abortion at the instruction of Dawson, which he paid for”.
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One more thing Doc.
Ironically, someone here, who I typically don’t think too highly of, once said something that has always stuck with me as being quite interesting and insightful. He noted that practically all of Europe’s nations experienced extremely turbulent political times after World War One, possibly starting with Italy and the fascists and ending with the Nazis. These two may have been the most loudest, but even the UK experienced a left-wing phase at that time. Roosevelt’s America in the 1930s was mad. For instance, because pork prices had fallen, the US actually had to kill off a sizable portion of its swineherd. It was compelled by the early Roosevelt administration. In the early years, corporatism was very much on the rise in the US.
Now consider how good things were in the Western world during the go-go years following World War 2 up to the turn of the century. We simply experience ebbs and flows. The good times will return.
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Pogria
Sep 13, 2023 7:54 PMDid any cats watch the Peta Credlin, Jacinta Price interview this evening?
No but I received this text from “her” over dinner this evening.
Hi, it’s Jacinta Price. The Referendum is on 14 Oct. This Voice is risky, unknown and divisive. Don’t know? Say no. For a postal vote go to https://postal.vote
I have no idea how they got my number.
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Interesting that the ABC has now discovered the story of exploitation of students at Cromer High. Not a word of acknowledgement, of course, to Hedley Thomas who was onto it four years ago.
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Most tourists walking in Venice wouldn’t haven’t a clue what’s beneath their feet. They just want to talk about a menu at their favourite cafe.
How would you know what tourists talk about and what is beneath Venice?
I suggest you pop over and share your theories with the locals who know the history of their city very well.
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Ukranian politician and advisor to President Zelenskyy, Mykhailo Podolyak, on the intellectual capacity of the Indian and Chinese people.The diplomacy is off the charts.
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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 13, 2023 8:47 PM
Imagine spending 100mil and forgetting to pay for Marcia Langton’s bile duct removing.Marcia Langton sees herself as having a future in the Voice.
An article in Quadrant Online includes extracts from the “other” 25 pages of the Uluru statement from the activists. The quotes make it pretty clear that most of the writing is a reflection of the desires of those activists, with minimal input from the wider indig community.
They all see themselves as parts of the future “Voice”.
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What’s really hilarious about the tartarian nonsense is its focus on architecture.
As though western civilisation with its medical, artistic, musical, mathematical, philosophical, scientific, physics, mining, water management, engineering, literature, and so many other discoveries, inventions and innovations developed over more than 2000 years somehow failed in the 19th century and couldn’t knock together a few buildings for world fairs. -
So, today Maria Marcia Marcia, in the wash up of her comments about NO voters being racist and dumb, has tried desperately to backtrack on her remarks, and she’s also threatened Peter Dutton with legal action.
Feel all da love?
Sleazy and the Liars should never ever have proceeded with this Voice referendum. We here know this. There’s no way a Hawke or Keating would have touched such a proposition with a barge pole. This Voice claptrap has always been, at its core, about division, about hate, about spite, about lots of money, about vengeance, and about pushing radical leftist policies. Even from its inception, from the so called nonsense that is the “Uluru from the Heart” babble back in 2017, oh and what does “from the heart” mean? It’s just feel good, weasel, shallow words that remind me of a Byron Bay wicca retreat for very wealthy adolescent sixty year olds desperate to try and find meaning in their lives. So, it begs the question, why have Labor pursued this? Well, firstly I suspect they’ve gone all gung ho with it it because they swallowed the May 2022 election result, and they thought the proposal would be an easy-peasy win for them. They were also further emboldened by the Aston by-election win earlier this year. But what I find interesting and disturbing is that Sleazy refuses to distance himself from radicals like Langton and Mayo. He refuses to condemn their rhetoric which means he agrees with the rhetoric of “racists” and “dumb”. Hawke or Keating would never, ever have made the mistake of putting radicals like Langton and May at the forefront of such a campaign.
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An article in Quadrant Online includes extracts from the “other” 25 pages of the Uluru statement from the activists
This one?
https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2023/09/the-hidden-documents-behind-the-uluru-voice/
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There can be no doubt that, clearly set out above, the institution of the Voice entails with it the establishment of a Makarrata Commission and a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
The plan to set up a Makarrata Commission is bad enough, but the “Truth and Reconciliation Commission to enable all Australians to face the truth of the past” is particularly draconian, in that Document 14 already sets out the historical truth (Our Story), which is the leftist story of invasion, colonisation, dispossession, massacres, genocide, stolen generations and so on, and so it will be required of non-indigenous people to accept that truth, without question. It must logically follow that it will subsequently become a crime to deny that truth, once it is established as the official history of Australia, and we will then have arrived at the realisation of the classic Orwellian thought-crime. So much for democracy and free speech.
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