Open Thread – Weekend 27 Nov 2021


The Calumny of Apelles, Botticelli, 1495-6

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Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 9:28 am

“Matersays:
November 28, 2021 at 6:45 am
If you can stomach it, look at this:

https://twitter.com/AlboMP/status/1464493480328130562?s=20

Yes, one needs a bucket. I was reminded of another of Albo’s catch ups….a cosy afternoon tea in London with the great Jew hater Jeremy Corbyn. Birds of a feather always flock together.

Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 9:30 am

“The Left is Normalizing Pedophiles? A Special News Report”

That was inevitable.

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
November 28, 2021 9:31 am

Omicron Variant First Detected in Four People Who Were Fully Vaccinated
Botswana government releases public statement on new mutant strain.

Not only do we take our lead on health from corrupt, sinecured, poorly experienced Australian public servants, we now also take it from Botswana’s corrupt, sinecured, poorly…

FMD

Indolent
Indolent
November 28, 2021 9:33 am

States with Mask Mandates Reporting Higher Coronavirus Numbers than Maskless Florida

Hardly surprising since the masks are useless for anything but interfering with normal breathing and causing bacterial infections. They do work great as a mark of submission, though.

Tom
Tom
November 28, 2021 9:35 am

Well spotted, Dot (for those of us who aren’t paying close attention).

rickw
rickw
November 28, 2021 9:35 am

Insane level of craftsmanship by you guy, he’s somewhere in SE Asia, last video I watched he was living and sleeping in his machine shop, all the tools used he’s brought and refurbished them himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqwnOn-XhQI

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 9:38 am

Mater says at 6:45
If you can stomach it, look at this:

Imagine sitting at the kitchen table at Albo and Chairman Dan’s share house?
“Marx”
“Lenin”
“Marx”
“When I’m running Victoria you’ll see.”

Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 9:41 am

I suppose this is easier for Scumbag Morrison to deal with than their ABC…


World-first laws will force social media giants to identify keyboard cowards

Tech giants will be ordered to identify anonymous online trolls or face heavy defamation costs in tough, new, world-first laws that will make them responsible for what they publish.

Attorney-General Michaelia Cash is pushing for defamation law reform in the area of social media liability in response to a “lack of legal clarity affecting millions,” says Sky News host Peta Credlin.

This comes after a High Court ruling last month which stated publishers could be liable for defamatory comments which were posted…

Anonymous trolls will be unmasked with tough, new, world-first laws that will give Australian courts the power to order social media giants to identify perpetrators or risk incurring hefty defamation payouts.

Under the legislation to be announced by Prime Minister Scott Morrison on Sunday, people who believe they have been defamed online will also be able to get court orders to force social media giants to reveal who is responsible for the posts.

If the social media giants refuse or are unable to identify who made the defamatory comments, then they will have to pay the defamation costs.

Social media giants will also have to establish online customer shopfronts in Australia to make sure they comply with orders.

Mr Morrison said social media could too often be a cowards’ palace, where the anonymous could bully, harass and ruin lives without consequence.

“We would not accept these faceless attacks in a school, at home, in the office, or on the street. And we must not stand for it online, on our devices and in our homes,” he said, adding that the rules that existed in the real world should exist online too.

The centrepiece crackdown on online trolls will be a change to the law to make it clear social media providers are responsible for payouts arising from defamatory comments on their platform where the troll cannot be identified.

It will also legislate to reverse the recent High Court decision in the Voller case, which found that operators of social media pages were liable for defamatory comments posted on them. Social media companies will be considered the publishers of comments, alongside the commenters themselves.

Trolls falsely accused Ellie Smith and Jake Gliddon of all manner of horrors when their young daughter Cleo Smith vanished in rural WA. They had no involvement in her disappearance.

The changes were heavily backed by Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce, whose daughter Bridgette was smeared on Facebook with false allegations she was having an affair with former NSW National Party leader John Barilaro.

Mr Joyce accused social media companies of making billions of dollars “destroying the authentic fourth estate by siphoning off advertising revenue” while destroying people’s lives and saying “It wasn’t me. I didn’t do that”.

“I’m going to the (United) States next week to talk about what we can do about this,” he said.

“And something will be done. We will either live in a democracy or a Zuckerbergcy, and our preference is for the former.”

Radio and TV personality Erin Molan has been the victim of a unrelenting threats from online trolls, including some who wished harm on her unborn child.

Trolls will be unmasked in two ways. Social media companies will be compelled to create a complaints scheme which will allow victims to know if comments were made in Australia and, if so, to obtain the contact details of the poster, with their consent.

If that doesn’t work, victims will also be able to seek a new form of court order, to be called an “End-user Information Disclosure Order”, which will allow a social media company to unmask trolls without consent.

The government is highly-aware that most litigants in defamation cases against social media giants will be hopelessly outgunned financially.

To get around that power im­balance it has signalled it is prepared to intervene in defamation disputes involving social media ­companies to support victims, to make it clear to the courts how it thinks the Commonwealth legislation should be applied.”

Don’t you just love Scumbag Morrison’s words above that “social media could too often be a cowards’ palace,”….yet he and his government have done nothing about their ABC….an outlet that’s destroyed one or two lives. Oh and whilst we’re on the topic of “coward’s palaces”…..what about the abuse of parliamentary privilege? We’ve seen two such examples this year….back in March when some skank in NSW Labor made a rape allegation against a National MP (later proved to be unfounded) and only just over a week ago, when Mendicant Meddick in Victoria smeared Avi Yemeni as a Nazi.

GoTiges
GoTiges
November 28, 2021 9:46 am

For any other Queenslanders that may be interested, there is a petition for the Queensland Parliament to stop the proposed segregation policy. Unfortunately today is the last day.

C.L.
C.L.
November 28, 2021 9:54 am

The Left is Normalizing Pedophiles? A Special News Report

That’s nothing new. The left in the US, Britain, Europe and Australia have been trying to get legalised sexual access to children since the 1970s.

Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 10:00 am

This from the Oz…can’t access the whole story….

“‘Public won’t comply with any more Covid rules’
In a hint at what may lie ahead, the UK’s chief medico says his ‘greatest worry’ is that the public won’t consent to another round of restrictions over Omicron.”

And why should we consent anymore? Over the last twenty months, whether it be in the UK, here in Oz, the USA and elsewhere, we’ve been lied to, we’ve been gaslighted, we’ve been smeared, we’ve been ridiculed, we’ve been locked up and we’ve had our rights and freedoms eroded and stolen.

NO MORE.

Tom
Tom
November 28, 2021 10:03 am

Giggled just now at Sky Outsiders’ piece on ABC Karen Zoe Daniels, the former Trump-deranged US correspondent who’s running as a Greenfilth “independent” against Tim Wilson in his federal Melbourne seat.

Daniels’ lack of self-awareness is loud-out-loud hilarious. Though I don’t especially like his politics, if I were Wilson, I’d encourage him to get Daniels to speak as much as possible in the runup to the 2022 election because she thinks everyone else is as dumb as she is.

Tom
Tom
November 28, 2021 10:04 am

Woops. Typo.

rickw
rickw
November 28, 2021 10:05 am

Apparently the Mongs at DHS have decided that I need 14 days home detention despite a negative test.

Little bloke needs 14 days home detention.

Wife, vaccinated and tested positive only needs 10 days because vaccinated. They think…..

There’s a lot of science in this!

Anyway, little Bloke has declared 14 days straight of work on his P-40 pedal plane and our G scale railway layout….

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
November 28, 2021 10:06 am

In Shitposting news:

Australia has fomented riots in Solomon Island: Global Times editorial

It is clear that Australia’s overall attitude, and that of the US, is to connive with and even encourage the unrest, even though the Australian troops and police were sent to keep order in the Solomon Islands. What is right and what is not is obvious. Hence, aren’t Morrison’s remarks of “not indicate any position” actually a support for the evil doings?

The CPC, eventually forced to say something, says: “Poo, bum, fart.”

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 28, 2021 10:07 am

Yes! How do I wangle a positive test result out of this! (Seriously, thanks, all good for the moment. Actually you confirm the calc for Equall / Ivermectin? I had trouble with me nose bag this morning and I wanted to check the dosage!)

1) Unfortunately, even after full infective dose exposure, less than 20% of people will even develop a positive PCR
2) the current FLCCC guidelines for early treatement of COVID with Ivermectin are 0.4 -0.6 mg per kg daily for 5 days. Based on my calculations, to get to 0.4mg/kg in an 80kg person would be 13 mls or 2.6 teaspoons of the Eraquell pellets. The dosage safety margin is high, so I wouldn’t get too worked up about it.

Crossie
Crossie
November 28, 2021 10:08 am

Barnaby Joyce is coming for all of us because somebody called him names online. Anybody who votes for him at the next election is no friend of democracy.

Diogenes
Diogenes
November 28, 2021 10:08 am

Have any of the purebloods seen the dodge about getting the green tick on the check-in apps using somebody else Vax cert?

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 10:10 am

Oak Tree Renaissance asks:

Dot are you trying to do work for the team genocide here?

Ed C ase replies:
Put it this way,
Dot will not be found on any barricades.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
November 28, 2021 10:11 am

I’d encourage him to get Daniels to speak as much as possible in the runup to the 2022 election because she thinks everyone else is as dumb as she is.

Relying on knowledge/opinions from her children that has been fact checked and true-a most insouciant j’ismist a career path to politics was a given.

Crossie
Crossie
November 28, 2021 10:11 am

That was a very big no-no for Outsiders to have Barnaby Joyce come on to tell us how we don’t deserve anonymity. I wonder who on Sky pulled rank to get him on that show to pretend he is supporting a censorship bill for our own good.

cohenite
November 28, 2021 10:11 am

With Tanya, what you see is what you get.

Biggest bitch in politics. A genuine case of vagina dentata. And her hubbie personifies the whole corrupt, double standard of law and justice in Australia. If he did what he did today they would have thrown away the key.

Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 10:14 am

“Biggest bitch in politics. “

No…that honour belongs to Skank Keneally.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 10:16 am

And why should we consent anymore? Over the last twenty months, whether it be in the UK, here in Oz, the USA and elsewhere, we’ve been lied to, we’ve been gaslighted, we’ve been smeared, we’ve been ridiculed, we’ve been locked up and we’ve had our rights and freedoms eroded and stolen.

The only right i’m interested in is my right to refuse any Vaccination.
Pubs, clubs, airlines, sporting events and restaurants can rust and die for all I care.

flyingduk
flyingduk
November 28, 2021 10:22 am

The only right i’m interested in is my right to refuse any Vaccination.
Pubs, clubs, airlines, sporting events and restaurants can rust and die for all I care.

Correct …. I can wait out any economic or social sanctions (hey … I just thought of something: all the COVID restrictions are just like sanctions on a naughty country – mainly political, and punish the good burghers, not the ruling class)…. but threats of violence (forced jabs) will be met with acts of violence.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 28, 2021 10:22 am

rickw says:
November 28, 2021 at 9:08 am

I miss my telecom orange HQ Belmont Ute!

There was one here. Belmont. Traumatic. Baby poo beige. Very original and slightly battered. The only thing looking non-original was the chrome trim rings on the standard wheels. Even had a tow bar with ram’s horns and a patinad rego label (not a reproduction label, like I’m seeing now). The V8 badge on the tailgate may be the reason it survived!

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 28, 2021 10:25 am

Looking for a rabbit hole?
Try this one for size.

Zipster
Zipster
November 28, 2021 10:26 am

In a hint at what may lie ahead, the UK’s chief medico says his ‘greatest worry’ is that the public won’t consent to another round of restrictions over Omicron.”

strange I don’t remember consenting to the previous rounds….

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 28, 2021 10:33 am

In a hint at what may lie ahead, the UK’s chief medico says his ‘greatest worry’ is that the public won’t consent to another round of restrictions over Omicron.

It’s called consumer fatigue.
They shot their bolt with the Delta scarient.

Pogria
Pogria
November 28, 2021 10:33 am

I miss my telecom orange HQ Belmont Ute!

I had a Dark Green Belmont Panel Van in the late eighties. With a mattress in the back……………

It did have a mattress, but that was there to keep the dogs comfy and the miniature pony I had at the time. It was a hoot when I would pull up at the servo and two doggy heads and one little horse head would lean over my shoulder to look out the window!

Zipster
Zipster
November 28, 2021 10:34 am
custard
custard
November 28, 2021 10:35 am

Outsiders interrupted again by the powers that be, this time to hear the PM carry on that we need to protect our children from the internet.

Just Fuck Off!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 28, 2021 10:35 am

Morn all. Tad moist round these parts, Hunter R is on way down though. Peaked yesterday arvo and I was able to get in last night, roads closed everywhere.

Had a HZ ute 3 on the tree, drove all over the eastern seaboard in it. 2 clutches, brake cylinders and a fuel pump and water pump, it was pretty reliable except for the overheating while stationary that was much annoying. Pretty well much fix nearly everything with a half inch 9/16ths spanner. Holden discontinued Belmont after HX but she was the base model anyway just with a Kingswood badge.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 10:36 am

Jane Cadzow is a blast from the past, she must be pushing 75?
Anyway, the strategy appears to be:
Put Coutts/Trotter’s Jail Term front and Centre and use it to bash the Coalition over the head.
Cynical, but still high risk.
No one gives a fuck about him being an ex con, but can he carry off the Tim Mathieson role?
And can he travel to the US or UK with Tanya?
Felony convictions aren’t welcomed by the Yanks.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 10:38 am

Barnaby Joyce is coming for all of us because somebody called him names online.

He’d do the nation a great service if he went back to being a country town accountant.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 10:42 am

Ed C

We’re using street names now? Da B Man is hip.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 10:46 am

Just Fuck Off!

That is quite an effective policy platform. TV ads may be a problem.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 10:48 am

You think about all the arseholes that have afflicted us over the years,
Rudd, Pyne, Abbott, … Gillard, Turnbull, Scotty, … PeanutHead, Albo, Tanya, … Keneally, Scotty, Palaszczuk, Bob Carr, Peter Beattie, Tim Fischer, Lil’ Johnny …
but Barnaby is head and shoulders over the lot of them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 10:53 am

I awoke to what I thought was the sound of birds this morning.

Turns out it was just one Bird.

This is Stage 1 Bird. The Stage 2 (delta variant) Bird should appear later this afternoon or tonight, and the following days will herald the appearance of Stage 3 (epsilon) and the full-blown yet incoherent Stage 4 (omicron).

Nobody has yet experienced Omega Bird. Shock and Awe.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 10:56 am

Tad moist round these parts

Yerg. And on a Sunday, too.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 10:57 am

Hi Graeme!

I am so relieved to see my Nano-wrigglers haven’t eaten you. 😀

How’s life in these dreary post-Aether times?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 10:57 am

Australia has fomented riots in Solomon Island: Global Times editorial

Haha, that is almost up there with “Covid came from frozen Australian beef”.
Fun that WHO supported that particular hilarious claim.

rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 11:04 am

I see the sterile acorn is trying to explain away the failure of two billion people to die on command in 2021.
Maybe, just maybe the information sources are faulty.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:06 am

A reaction to anything that is purely imaginary would seem to be an over-reaction.

Which is why you screaming your tits off when I laugh at your latest moon-battish brainfart ever stops being funny…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:07 am

Maybe, just maybe the information sources are faulty.

I don’t know if that pun was intentional or not, but it did make me chuckle…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 28, 2021 11:11 am

Points from yesterday.
Nothing is happier than a Golden Retriever at a protest march.
Don’t know which is weirder, Ex AFL star Dean Laidley in a full photo shoot dressed in women’s clothes or Dan & Albo desperately trying to look normal at a backyard BBQ.

rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 11:12 am

Was that Albo?
I thought it was just some random stairman had roped in.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 28, 2021 11:13 am

Sounds like a fun day out.
How playing on people’s distrust of governments makes you a crypto national socialist, I don’t know.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 11:14 am

Australia has fomented riots in Solomon Island: Global Times editorial

That’s quite believable, despite the source
The Solomon Islands is an artificial Nation, in the 19th century Malaita was a separate entity, while the rest were lumped together in Government Records
[of Hangings carried out in Queensland]
as South Sea Islanders.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 11:15 am

Was that Albo?

Looks like he’s had his teeth fixed and is morphing into Kevin Rudd.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 11:15 am

Bird is like blog onion grass.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 11:16 am

Looking for a rabbit hole?
Try this one for size.

Barely mouse-hole size these days.
For a real rabbit hole you need to include climate change too.
After the recent COP fiasco that ain’t entirely unlikely either.
The Davos climate bedwetters must be getting frantic about now.
“HOW CAN EVERYONE IGNORE US?!! THE PLANET IS DYING!!!!!”

Pogria
Pogria
November 28, 2021 11:17 am

From the first time I saw and heard Plibbers, this poem by Robert Herrick always came to mind.

The Hag is astride,
This night for to ride;
The Devill and shee together:
Through thick, and through thin,
Now out, and then in,
Though ne’r so foule be the weather.

A Thorn or a Burr
She takes for a Spurre:
With a lash of a Bramble she rides now,
Through Brakes and through Bryars,
O’re Ditches, and Mires,
She followes the Spirit that guides now.

No Beast, for his food,
Dares now range the wood;
But husht in his laire he lies lurking:
While mischiefs, by these,
On Land and on Seas,
At noone of Night are working,

The storme will arise,
And trouble the skies;
This night, and more for the wonder,
The ghost from the Tomb
Affrighted shall come,
Cal’d out by the clap of the Thunder.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:17 am

Repent

And how is the average prole supposed to do that, Graeme? Unjab themselves?

And who died and made you a god? Fuck off and rage about Merchant bankers. You are as stupid, repetitive and boring as Struth, and that was before he started developing your false Messiah complex…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:19 am

Australia has fomented riots in Solomon Island: Global Times editorial

That’s quite believable, despite the source

Fuck lff, Grigory.

There is enough Mong infestation on the Open Thread this morning without your gypsum-fuelled bullshittery wasting pixels.

Go eat your Mutton.

rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 11:19 am

I hate onion weed. Every year I remove every last vestige and then the seeds blow in from the neighbours and it’s popping up everywhere again.

Muddy
Muddy
November 28, 2021 11:20 am

La Balsa Park, Kawana, Sunshine Coast. Approx 250-300 present. Speakers need some brief practical speaking advice before stepping forward.

Boambee John
Boambee John
November 28, 2021 11:20 am

rosie

sterile acorn

Nice put down!

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 11:21 am

No fake tests, no fake jabs, and no contact tracing that you can avoid without harassment. Thats important too because using the contract tracing can get people dragged off to quarantine.

All good points.
Think of the downstream effects before complying.

rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 11:23 am
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 11:24 am

Then just last week I heard he had been blinded. This was put down to bad food and the response to a headache.

I have consumed dodgy bain-marie museum pieces from roadhouses and servos all over the country. Have done for decades. Dodgy pork rolls. Expired milk. Parmas with unexpected grey squishy things inside. Barrels of salt over everything. The peepers still work.

I’ve had blinding hangovers. Does that count?

Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 28, 2021 11:24 am

My wife (pre-wife days) once saw a patch of onion weed in flower at the side of the road and insisted I stop to allow her to collect some. I suggested she may not want to do that and gave reasons but she thought the smell would not be enough to overcome the beauty of the flowers.

It was only a few km further down the road before they got chucked out of the window.

rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 11:24 am

I bet Graham was the first to uptick your comment John.
🙂

Muddy
Muddy
November 28, 2021 11:25 am

Campbell Newman standing nearby. Any messages?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:27 am

All good points.
Think of the downstream effects before complying.

Grigory, stop encouraging the troll. I get you are terribly, terribly excited to have a fellow Mong to play with on the thread, but ..enough.

rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 11:27 am

Lol NKP
The flowers are pretty and apparently they are much prized in the UK .
I’m allegeric to them. At least when it’s rained and they are newbies they are easy to remove, bulbs and all.

rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 11:29 am

Sort of like hitting the report button but without the watery eyes.

cohenite
November 28, 2021 11:35 am

Lauren Boebert Apologizes After Making Fun Of Brother Humper Ilhan Omar

Salty explains why the little fireball made a mistake apologising to this muslim kunt.

cohenite
November 28, 2021 11:36 am
Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 11:36 am

Campbell Newman standing nearby. Any messages?

yeah.
Ask him how much longer we have to pay tolls to drive in the Tunnels.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 11:37 am

this poem by Robert Herrick

Pogria – That’s awesome, never read it before. It chimed so much the cadence clicked in my mind with with a song…”The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald”. Try it yourself, it fits nearly perfectly.

Would make a really cool mashup Youtube!

bespoke
bespoke
November 28, 2021 11:37 am

This may the worst thread ever finding out Pogria’s into little pony’s and Rockdoctor’s moist. Pedro will up soon to tell us again how Dorper’s make good companions, Bla!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:40 am

Rex tell me how in theory a virus could invade a cell. Its dead material. So you go right ahead and explain the procedure. Then after that you can tell me how a virus can break out of a cell. Lacking all motility.

Poor Graeme. Have you been talking to Chad Thunderbrain again, the fellow who is absolutely convinced disease is merely weakness in all we lesser mortals, but is deathly terrified of walking into a doctor’s office for fear he will instantly catch Death?

The mechanics of viral entry and apoptotic rupture of the invaded and subverted cell are well known and documented. Much of our genome, previously derided as ‘Junk DNA’ is full of incorporated viral fragments, passing resistance for various conditions between generations. And every infection we overcome in our lifetimes is incorporated, too.

It is not my fault you don’t understand anything bigger than single
-syllable words, prefer to ‘research’ things the way L. Ron Hubbard did- Through the sheer power of imagination (The crew of the USS PC-815 no doubt loved him for that…)

On the weekends Rex wears womens clothing and believes in global warming. Or he may as well do since he has no capacity in science whatsoever.

That’s up there with your proclamation about your suddenly-blinded truck-driving buddy, Graeme. In memory of my prior capacity as a Medical Scientist (Oh dear), I politely suggest that you lay off the cheese before going to bed. Whatever fever dreams and fantasies it has provoked are kinda revolting.

Though curiously flattering, in a Weyland Smithers and Montgomery Burns kinda way…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:41 am

Bla!

No no no, sir.

It’s Baa!

bespoke
bespoke
November 28, 2021 11:42 am

In order to prosecute our side of the war

I am not on your side.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 11:43 am

Are these statements of flippancy and divergence honouring your murdered father?

Snork.

Hey, at least I didn’t murder my own, Graeme. Remember when you did that? I’m sure you do.

That was just before you were banned from the hospital where he was dying.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:43 am

Now we know that viruses don’t cause problems EMPIRICALLY. We know that now. But you can see how theory was always bullshit and lies. Which means we have this huge gap in our thinking as to what causes colds, flue and other problems. All we can know for sure at this juncture is that they are not caused by viruses.

Heehee! Viruses are the new Newtonian Physics!

NANO-WRIGGLER LEGIONS, ASSEMBLE!

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 11:45 am

It chimed so much the cadence clicked in my mind with with a song…”The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald”. Try it yourself, it fits nearly perfectly.

Both in loose iambic trimeter.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:46 am

Let pro-Genocide Rex and Rosie say what they want. They aren’t the cool kids any more.

So why do you rage so hard whenever I reply to your latest blitherings?

You clearly don’t believe your own pronouncements, do you?

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 11:47 am

Which means we have this huge gap in our thinking as to what causes colds, flue and other problems. All we can know for sure at this juncture is that they are not caused by viruses.

I agree. It’s petrol fumes that cause colds and flu. Thanks for pointing that out.

Zipster
Zipster
November 28, 2021 11:49 am

3280 feet deep groundwater is contaminated in China/water and cross-contamination is out of control
On November 22nd, 2021, the Chinese government issued the first groundwater regulation known as, Regulations on Groundwater Management, effective December 1st, 2021.
This news has aroused the attention of the public. When the Chinese government starts to address a problem, it’s usually a very serious one.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 11:49 am

Man, I just cleaned out the garage with the leaf blower and the smell of 2 stroke is choking. I feel the flu coming on.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 11:50 am

Yeah its just all lies. Fleshed out pseudo-knowledge under a failed paradigm.

Graeme – who do you believe is responsible for all of this? Could it be someone acting alone, or as part of some mysterious larger organisation and/or group?

The evildoers here must have almost unlimited money, that’s for sure.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
November 28, 2021 11:50 am

I’ve looked at the vision of the protest but can’t see myself. My legs appear at the back of the big Aussie flag that Rukshan walked under.
I was chatting with a teacher and his kids from the NE who had lost his work because of the jab at the time.
Sorry I didn’t hunt out the Cats. I looked at the phone a couple of times to see if there was a meet up point but I was with a group who brought in other people they knew, so it was introductions and stories being told in the shade.
Lots of these folks are out of work because of the jab. Very sobering experience for me and only added to my intense dislike of the TaliDan regime and his PM enabler.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:50 am

Luck always runs out.

Yes it does, Graeme. You’ve so far pulled the trigger on 5 chambers out of 6 in the Ban Roulette pistol. It won’t be long before you will have to go away and sulk for another 2-3 months, before magicking up a new IP address and another inane screen name to try your derivative bullshit here again…

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 11:51 am

Anyone that’s ever poked a bloated animal carcass in a paddock with a (long) pointy stick or thin reo bar will know what’s coming.

*poke poke poke*

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 11:51 am

Oh I know who it is. Just stop.

Pogria
Pogria
November 28, 2021 11:51 am

”The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald”

Bruce of Newcastle,

I am listening to that song as I write, I had never heard it before. You are so right! the cadence, the rhythm, it is like they were made for each other! WOW. And thanks.

Pogria
Pogria
November 28, 2021 11:54 am

Bespoke,

I also have Dorpers! whoooosh! runs away laughing!

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 11:54 am

You know, I have a feeling we should defer to the Sth Afticans on this variant and their initial view is that it’s not problematic. This may be another huge hysterical fit and we come undone again with bullshit restrictions. That’s the real concern and not the variant. There would be a variant produced very, very frequently anyway. Big fucking deal.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 11:55 am

Yeah its just all lies. Fleshed out pseudo-knowledge under a failed paradigm.

I love Graeme’s method of argument. It’s like watching a grown man revert to being a two year-old under the influence of the drink on a Friday night.

Stomping its little feetsies, wrapping its stubby arms round its Chupachup-like head and incoherently squeaking NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOO!

Sounds like Graeme is in desperate need of a lightly smacked bottom (to relieve the emotional tension) and put to bed…

Muddy
Muddy
November 28, 2021 11:56 am

Pauline on the phone, not sure where from.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 11:57 am

Bird AND Special Ed *looks around to see if any jobs need doing*.

Makka
Makka
November 28, 2021 12:00 pm

This may be another huge hysterical fit and we come undone again with bullshit restrictions.

It’s already happened as you can see in the indexes. We come undone because we have fkg tyrants governing us who WILL lock us down given the opportunity ie the SA variant. That’s why no one coming from SA or the ME should be allowed in

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:00 pm

KD … The oligarchy controls science ruthlessly and given a time period of about 30 years they can lock anything in

BINGO! What’s the prize today, Sam?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
November 28, 2021 12:01 pm

Panic stations re Omicron ramping up – the media are going nuts, think I will tune out for the week.
For those needing a screen filler, Stan has a series “Hell on Wheels” about the building of the railways across the western plains of the US, quite good with some gruesome bits. Token Aussie actress involved.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:02 pm

Once again this all conforms to the idea that aether-denial is at the root of all science fraud. Because the trigger for people to go into forced detox may well be aetheric. The way that humans communicate between each other may well be at that level.

Uh-oh, Bird’s gone full Thetan.

(Dianetics ain’t real, Bird! The only reason L. Ron Hubbard hated psychiatrists is because they didn’t let him run amuck in his fantasies…)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 12:02 pm

Paul de Serville has a short yet excellent piece in Quadrant Online, titled ‘Would Jesus Have Given Tim Paine Out?’

On Cricket Australia chairman Richard Freudenstein:

It is to be hoped that the chairman of Cricket Australia has led a blameless public and private life. Or if, like most human beings, he belongs to what Kant called the ‘crooked timber of humanity’, that his possible human — all too human — lapses have not come to public attention.

And:

It is a sad day when sportsmen are required to lead blameless lives and sporting administrators set themselves up as moral arbiters.

And:

Mr Freudenstein might, as penance for his comments, like to spend a few days reading the New Testament, paying particular attention to Christ’s comments about the Pharisees and the woman taken in adultery.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:02 pm

Yea I know,. it comes from Mckinsey and their “globalists” and therefore can’t be listened to or read. There’s an interesting piece in this week’s Barron’s doing calcs about the world’s net worth and other related crap. I generally don’t like posting entire pieces but I’m possibly only 3 people who subscribe and avidly read the weekly in oz. 🙂

Ignore their advice and just gulp down the data stuff as it’s interesting. I cannot conceive $350 trillion.

Global Wealth Has Exploded. Are We Using It Wisely?

COMMENTARY

Would the world be better off if we invested more of our wealth into building new assets that power our economies and help our societies?

The world is richer than it has ever been, but the way in which we create wealth has changed. Should we be using our wealth more productively?

That question emerges starkly from research we have just published that takes an alternative approach to understanding the economy. Rather than focus on flow-based metrics of economic performance like gross domestic product, we constructed a balance-sheet view of the global economy—essentially giving it a health checkup after two unusual decades marked by the 2008 financial crisis, years of ultralow interest rates and, in the past 18 months, the Covid-19 pandemic.

The good news is that we are a lot richer than we were two decades ago. Each of the three components of the balance sheet—real assets, the financial assets and liabilities of governments, households, and nonfinancial corporations, and the financial assets and liabilities of financial corporations—has tripled in the past 20 years to about $500 trillion apiece, or approximately six times GDP. The world’s wealth or net worth as measured by the value of real assets has risen some $350 trillion in the past two decades.

Though the growth in wealth usually tracks GDP growth, since the beginning of this century wealth has soared while GDP growth has been tepid. At a global level, wealth is now up by nearly 50% from the pre-2000 average relative to GDP. Asset prices rising faster than general inflation drove much of this increase, while net new investment contributed only 28% to wealth growth. Declining interest rates combined with inelastic land markets in real estate underpinned asset price growth.

Additionally, the composition of wealth does not reflect the assets that drive economic growth and income; our economies are digitizing rapidly and derive ever more of their growth and value from intangible investments like intellectual property and software. Yet intangibles account for just 4% of wealth, as they lose value to their owners quickly due to obsolescence and competition, even if their value to society may have a much longer shelf life. The other types of fixed assets that typically drive economic growth, such as infrastructure and machinery, are only 17% of the total. By far the biggest form of wealth, accounting for two-thirds of our total real assets, is real estate. In the 10 countries we looked at for our research, real-estate valuations have more than tripled on average in the first two decades of this century, with price rises exceeding the rate of inflation in all countries except Japan.

Financial claims and obligations also grew much faster than GDP. Our balance-sheet view highlights that for every $1 in net new investment, we have created nearly $2 in debt. In other words, half of all new debt is backed by asset value increases or not backed by assets at all, rather than financing new capital stocks.

All of which brings us to the question: could the world be better off if we invested more of our wealth, and directed more of our finance, into building new assets that power our economies and help our societies? We all need places to live, but housing stock hasn’t kept pace with demand. We need to generate economic growth investing in assets like infrastructure to broaden and sustain our prosperity, yet infrastructure investment gaps have proved persistent.

There’s no shortage of investment opportunities. Indeed, our economies and our planet have some critically important investment needs. As the earth warms because of climate change and economies look to decarbonize, huge sums will be needed to finance the energy transition—some $9 trillion a year by McKinsey estimates. While real-estate prices rise, affordable housing remains in very short supply: Some 165 million people in 22 advanced economies are overburdened by housing costs, as rising rents have eaten into the scant income growth of the average household. The world continues to have major infrastructure needs, not just emerging economies but advanced ones, too. In all, we have estimated that the world needs to spend about $3.7 trillion annually on infrastructure for the next 15 years in order to keep pace with projected GDP growth.

Coming out of the pandemic, all stakeholders have an opportunity to help rebalance the balance sheet through investment that drives robust and productive growth. In fact, with such investment we could see a full percentage point acceleration in growth over the next decade according to our research. For business leaders, this would mean identifying new growth opportunities and ways to continuously raise the productivity of their workforce with capital investment including in digital and intangibles. Financial institutions could seek to develop financing mechanisms aimed at deploying capital to new growth opportunities while limiting debt creation for asset transactions at ever-rising prices, for example.

Ultimately, building more of the required real assets will take policies that enable it. Sustainability investments, for instance, could turn from a cost to a growth opportunity if framework conditions such as higher carbon pricing were put in place. Policies to reform zoning regulations could mitigate real-estate scarcity. Skill-building, public innovation procurement, and changes in the way intangibles are accounted for on corporate balance sheets may be tools to deploy in the push for higher investment in that area. There is no shortage of money and no shortage of opportunities to spend it more productively. A starting point is transparency around how we are building and allocating our capital on a global-economy level. Only then can we have the much-needed debate about whether we are investing well for the future—and whether the global balance sheet in its current form is fit for purpose in the 21st centur

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:03 pm

they’re…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:05 pm

Boot niggers. Not that bright.

Second Bingo!

cohenite
November 28, 2021 12:06 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 12:06 pm

KD … The oligarchy controls science ruthlessly

As a long-time oligarch (CEO and founding member of Ozzygarches), I feel compelled to register my offence.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 12:08 pm

Everyone knows the two blokes on The Curiosity Show (of whom one was Ian Chappell) invented science.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 12:10 pm

That’s why no one coming from SA or the ME should be allowed in

It’s already in the UK.

Shall we go back to fortress Australia?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:10 pm

And why does Graeme hate Oligarchs so much?

What about that bastard Ernie Garchs and his cousin Tim?

Ozzy Garchs isn’t too bad, but I really have a personal dislike for Electrical Arcs…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:11 pm

Rex is having an epistemology fail

Nope. I’m just laughing at you shouting at clouds…

…Of Nano-wrigglers. >:)

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 12:12 pm

Everyone knows the two blokes on The Curiosity Show (of whom one was Ian Chappell) invented science.

Pfft…they are mere footnotes to Prof. Julius Sumner Miller.

Makka
Makka
November 28, 2021 12:12 pm

‘Would Jesus Have Given Tim Paine Out?’

I’m not speaking for Our Lord, but I am hugely happy this numpty is gone.

Not because of the furor over his dick pix but because he is the most idiotic, useless captain I have seen in the Australian XI (hmmm Hughsie?). He can’t shut up behind the wicket with his fatmouth unfunny sledging, his keeping swings between mediocre and appalling, he can’t bat, his field placings are unfathomable at times, the series loss to India was just an utter shambles- I could go on.

CA has been on a “what a great skipper” rant (ensuring the media comply ) for years. We now know why. This bloke’s judgement is phenomenally hopeless and they had to pump him up to save their skins after the Smith/Warner debacle.

What a shit show.

Muddy
Muddy
November 28, 2021 12:12 pm

Interesting body language from dude with full neck & half face tattoos.

Makka
Makka
November 28, 2021 12:13 pm

Shall we go back to fortress Australia?

To keep these a/holes from locking us down again… and again? WHATEVER it takes.

cohenite
November 28, 2021 12:13 pm

Some old time funny ads here. It’s a woke site so the soyboy who runs it makes fun of the ads but personally I think times were better when you could buy Temperance Spoons to eradicate unwanted erections, cocaine toothache drops, wife-training and lard ads. You can’t have enough lard.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:14 pm

I never went in for L Ron Hubbard. But even if he supported the aether, he is incapable of making it go away.

Because he failed where I succeeded, Graeme.

He didn’t have legions of Nano-Wrigglers. I did. All those weeks of pocket universes randomly being farted into existence and then spontaneously exploding into infinity was totally worth it, to see the look on your face when I announced I’d done away with all the aether in existence… 🙂

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:17 pm

So Rex if there was a virus we would have electron microscope pictures of them. To make anyone sick, since they can’t produce toxins, they would have to be physically destroying lots of cells. So we would need to see all these viruses, and blown out cells. But of course a virus couldn’t blow out a cell. Since a virus, even as admitted by virus believers, doesn’t have any motility. So it couldn’t fight its way out. Even if it could reproduce itself a thousand times in the cell, there is no new material produced so they would be locked in there. And empirically we never see such an explosion and release of the killer clones.

It’s not my fault you will not read up on anything you make vast and sweeping pronouncements over, Graeme.

So its all lies.

Wipe that spittle off your chin. You’re upsetting my pigeons.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:18 pm

Makka says:
November 28, 2021 at 12:13 pm

Shall we go back to fortress Australia?

To keep these a/holes from locking us down again… and again? WHATEVER it takes.

The were locking up before anyway and not allowing in flights. I very much doubt they’re stop going forward.

————

I bought some stock based crap on Friday NY time. I think this maybe just a huge hysterical teenage girl hissy fit. I hope.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 12:19 pm

To keep these a/holes from locking us down again… and again? WHATEVER it takes.

OK…but we’ve seen how these measures escalate out of all proportion to the threat.

Quarantine overwhelmed, Australians stranded overseas, panicked Premiers closing borders and imposing mask mandates, deja vu all over again.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:19 pm

I think times were better when you could buy Temperance Spoons to eradicate unwanted erections,

Cronkite, WTF is a temperance spoon?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 12:20 pm

CA has been on a “what a great skipper” rant

Cricket Tasmania were doing that. A ‘beacon’, they called him.

At the time he was brought back he was the best gloveman in the country, but yeah his captaincy was found wanting. Caved into his quicks looking for reviews too often, when as keeper he should be best placed to have an idea of whether it’s worthwhile.

Carey’s smacking it (at the moment) in the one-dayer against QLD, but I think they’ll go with Inglis. Better bat, and a quality gloveman.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 12:20 pm

Uh-oh, Bird’s gone full Thetan.

Just a hop step away from the “Do Not Admit” on the hospital visitor list.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:20 pm

hahaha

I don’t think you ever needed one, Cronkers.

https://www.vintag.es/2019/11/temperance-spoon.html

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
November 28, 2021 12:21 pm

Blockquote fail.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 12:22 pm

He can’t shut up behind the wicket with his fatmouth unfunny sledging, his keeping swings between mediocre and appalling, he can’t bat, his field placings are unfathomable at times, the series loss to India was just an utter shambles

Great comment.

– I could go on.

Please do.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:23 pm

I think times were better when you could buy Temperance Spoons to eradicate unwanted erections,

Cronkite, WTF is a temperance spoon?

I keep thinking of a certain Mess Game, but aimed somewhere else.

“But My Darling, I BURN for You!”

[THWACK!]

“Eep…”

Dot
Dot
November 28, 2021 12:24 pm

Makkasays:
November 28, 2021 at 12:13 pm
Shall we go back to fortress Australia?

To keep these a/holes from locking us down again… and again? WHATEVER it takes.

I totally agree.

Why do my civil liberties matter less than a foreigner who might come on a holiday here?

dopey
dopey
November 28, 2021 12:26 pm

Edmund Fitzgerald tune was used on ‘I wish I was Back Home in Derry’ . Gordon’s tune always sounded like he got it from a much older Irish tune. The Derry song had something to do with the IRA hunger striker.

Makka
Makka
November 28, 2021 12:27 pm

OK…but we’ve seen how these measures escalate out of all proportion to the threat.

Quarantine overwhelmed, Australians stranded overseas, panicked Premiers closing borders and imposing mask mandates, deja vu all over again.

Rog,
The measures will escalate again , given the opportunity. NSW and VIC are coming out of that, or were until this new opportunity to ruin our lives popped up in Africa, and elsewhere. I’m only looking at the lesser of 2 evils here and without a doubt, locking down our borders to the O hotspots is easily less evil than giving our our Prems another opportunity to brutalize us. Especially the Vic version. Until and unless we can be rid of these deplorable state Govt’s, it’s the best strategy to remain un-incarcerated.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:28 pm

We have friends who are from here and really freaking wealthy. They’re currently living in southern Europe and swing between there and their place in London. The dude smells restrictions coming on and is n0w thinking of moving to De Santis land.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:29 pm

So the viral theory is logically impossible and empirically totally refuted. In science thats all you need. If you have that then the theory is dead.

Well come on then, where’s your proof of refutation?

Sources, experimental data and demonstrated hypotheses and counter-hypotheses.

Oh wait- In a world where Bird Is The Word, none of that counts does it? Just what the Bird says is The Word.

You are an utter embarrassment to loonies, Graeme Bird…

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:30 pm

I don’t think they would try another lock down again in Australia of the sort we’ve experienced. That’s if the crowds are any indication.

Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 12:30 pm

Barnabus, on Outsiders this morning, said he was going to try and keep our mining industry going….yet he and his party signed up to “net zero emissions”.

Barnabus is a joke.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 12:32 pm

Mr Freudenstein might, as penance for his comments, like to spend a few days reading the New Testament, paying particular attention to Christ’s comments about the Pharisees and the woman taken in adultery.

Huh?
Paine got the arse because he’s a dud.
No way in the world he wouldn’t have been given the option of retiring with dignity rather than going out in disgrace, but he called their bluff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 12:33 pm

I think we might be heading for the “ … fool me twice …” phase of the Covid pandemic.

Makka
Makka
November 28, 2021 12:33 pm

I don’t think they would try another lock down again in Australia of the sort we’ve experienced.

God Bless the protesters. They may yet be the best bulwark against O inspired lock downs.

Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 12:33 pm

“JCsays:
November 28, 2021 at 12:30 pm
I don’t think they would try another lock down again in Australia of the sort we’ve experienced. That’s if the crowds are any indication.””

I don’t know JC….I honestly think they are capable of anything. As for the crowds, if say…Daniel Andrews tries to lock Melbournians up again, then the people have to hit the streets….regardless of the lockdowns and protests being “illegal”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 12:35 pm

The Lord would just keep the quicks on and give them some Old Testament chin music.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 12:35 pm

Paine got the arse because he’s a dud.

Fuck off Grigory.

Cassie of Sydney
November 28, 2021 12:35 pm

If Australia is locked up again, then millions need to hit the street.

Dot
Dot
November 28, 2021 12:36 pm

The oligarchy

Just say it Gayim…

The juice want to kill us all, so we should kill the juice. The juice brought the burning on by their own wickedness, but it didn’t actually happen.

DA JUUUIIICE!

Look man, I maintain OJ was innocent.

Don’t tell.me you’re a racist like Mark Furman?

Come on. “Niggers”? Sweet cheeses, Gayim, do you want African Americans to call you “Nigger Guy” from now on?

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:36 pm

That’s true Cassie, but the size of the crowds would also warn him which way the vote could go next election.. maybe.

cohenite
November 28, 2021 12:36 pm
Zipster
Zipster
November 28, 2021 12:36 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 12:36 pm

I don’t think they would try another lock down again in Australia of the sort we’ve experienced. That’s if the crowds are any indication.

There’ll be Lockdowns for Christmas far stricter than any we’ve seen.
The groundwork is being laid with the Omicron Variant.
So, oif you’ve got family members you need to see in the flesh, do it now, it’s your last chance.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 12:39 pm

Cassie of Sydney at 12:33 – I’m inclined to agree. At every stage where I’ve said “They won’t do that.” I’ve been wrong.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 12:40 pm

Why do my civil liberties matter less than a foreigner who might come on a holiday here?

How did our civil liberties fare with the border closed for 18 months?

Truth is our civil liberties rest in the hands of state premiers and their unelected (and probably politically biased) public health advisers and are theirs to grant or take away as they deem necessary in order to keep us “safe” and ensure their reelection.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:40 pm

Received an email from an American old trader pal from years ago. He would know as much about Australia as I know about Mongolia. But the shit that’s been going on here seems to have been making the rounds.

Great to hear back from you
Yes, Australia is some National Socialist shit
WTF
Mind blowing
Guess that’s what happens when they ban guns

He does have a point about guns. There are some concerning trade offs about a citizenry armed to the teeth like in the US. However, the negative fallout is by far outweighed by the benefit of the government apparatus knowing the punters are armed. Vicpol would be much more timid, I think.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 12:43 pm

The anti-perspirant and bad breath ads were good. This is a good piss take of them about why women should keep their mimsy fresh.

Here you go Cohenite.

How BO makes women more AGGRESSIVE: Sniffing a chemical in human body odour triggers aggression in ladies, but makes men less hostile, study finds (Daily Mail, 20 Nov)

Might explain the general behaviour of Stinky Rebel lady protesters.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 28, 2021 12:44 pm

There’ll be Lockdowns for Christmas far stricter than any we’ve seen.

Thanks Groogs. I feel better now.

JC
JC
November 28, 2021 12:44 pm

P

I’ve only been told this in the past few days.
The Sth African medical research functions are apparently very good as it may not have been totally destroyed by the government.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 12:44 pm

On Colds>Flu>Pneumonia:
It’s a progression..
A Cold is a prophylactic effort by the body to rid itself of accumulated waste.
If that is insufficient, the body amps it up to Influenza.
If even that is insufficient, then Pneumonia is the last gasp before the organism expires.
Do people living in the same house get colds at the same time?
Probably occasionally, but it’s random.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 12:48 pm

He does have a point about guns. There are some concerning trade offs about a citizenry armed to the teeth like in the US. However, the negative fallout is by far outweighed by the benefit of the government apparatus knowing the punters are armed.

Bret Weinstein: The Liberal Case for Gun Ownership

Zipster
Zipster
November 28, 2021 12:48 pm

We have friends who are from here and really freaking wealthy. They’re currently living in southern Europe and swing between there and their place in London. The dude smells restrictions coming on and is n0w thinking of moving to De Santis land.

the wife is pestering me to move there as well

Winston Smith's Keyboard.
November 28, 2021 12:50 pm

Helen Davidson:

Some of them looked a bit disconcerted when the groups around me thanked them as we walked past, while some of them smiled and waved at us (I wonder if the second group will still have a job on Monday?).

Yes they will.
It will be in Airleron or Curtin Springs.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 12:55 pm

the wife is pestering me to move there as well

Ditto.

At least it’s a step up from California, where she has rellies.

And she’s impressed that they have the death penalty too.

cohenite
November 28, 2021 12:55 pm

Might explain the general behaviour of Stinky Rebel lady protesters.

There’s no coming back from a stinky mimsy.

Makka
Makka
November 28, 2021 12:58 pm

I bought some stock based crap on Friday NY time.

Yes, I think could well be a serious opportunity, good for maybe another 6 months. Next few sessions will tell I suspect, possibly lower. Have to see.

Dot
Dot
November 28, 2021 1:03 pm

Graeme pulls out the soppy nonsense about Hiroshima and Dresden.

They were both legitimate military targets (as was Nagasaki).

I am glad they died instead of more of us.

Don’t deflect Gayim!

Tell us if da juice ought to be pre-emptively taken out ala a Turner Diaries cum rag.

cohenite
November 28, 2021 1:08 pm

From other site: party game: change one word of a popular song to fart.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 1:11 pm

Graeme pulls out the soppy nonsense about Hiroshima

Just read the official AWM accounts of Australian POWs held by the Japanese.
After which I felt the Hiroshima and Nagasaki attacks were a blessing.
For the Japanese. It cracked them out of a really noxious cultural psychosis.
Let me say I like the Japanese a whole lot less than I used to after reading that history. But they’ve behaved very well for over 75 years now, so there’s hope for them.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:13 pm

On Colds>Flu>Pneumonia:
It’s a progression..
A Cold is a prophylactic effort by the body to rid itself of accumulated waste.
If that is insufficient, the body amps it up to Influenza.

Fuck off Grigory.

These are different species of Upper Respiratory tract viruses with different methods of attack.

Pneumonia is an inflammatory symptom based on any form of insult to the lung tissue. Be it viral, bacterial or foreign material lodgement.

Stop fluffing Graeme and go away and occupy yourself with whatever beige, mutton-powered mediocrity comprises your life away from trying to retard-post at the Cat.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:16 pm

But instead I tend to get more pissed off with your knowing misrepresentation of what I am advocating.

How it is possible to knowingly misrepresent your bile-flecked hatred of a group of people you have never even seen, let alone met once in your life, whom you hold collectively criminally responsible for your every failure and personal dislike in this world?

You are a sickeningly small and angry little man, Graeme. Smaller than even my nano-wrigglers…

Dot
Dot
November 28, 2021 1:18 pm

If human sacrifice had never been attempted

Take it up with Monteazuma, Tojo and Hitler, fuck knuckle.

Now, do you think the Jews should be killed?

Yes or no.

Failing that, do you think they should be excluded from society and let to die off?

Yes or no.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:19 pm

Figures was a bit extreme and his explanations weren’t convincing. There are very good reasons to believe that bacteria, fungi and parasites have a big part in health problems. Though the bacterial problem is likely way over-blown.

But viruses are different. Its irrefutable that they can’t cause issues

It is sad (and amusing) when you try to present yourself as the voice of ‘Reason’ relative to Chad Thunderbrain, Graeme.

You are still as incapable as he is of demonstrating your ambits as ‘irrefutable,’ and you stomp your little feetsies like an overtired toddler in the face of anything that challenges your madness…

Dot
Dot
November 28, 2021 1:20 pm

The allies wouldn’t have had a war strategy based on the incineration of civilians, in the context of making war against a country that had been allied with the British and the United States and were desperately trying to stay that way.

Oh god you irredeemable loon.

What was Pearl Harbour? A *cry for help* from a drunken, suicidal “friend”?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 1:22 pm

Graeme – What the Japanese did when they took Ambon, Timor, Rabaul and Malaya would turn you shit white. They were not nice in any sense of the word.

Aussie POWs were treated better than others. Dutch had it bad, Indos worse and Chinese even worse. And of the North Borneo Aussie POWs I think one man survived, out of about 2,500. They made the SS look like softies.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:28 pm

Graeme – What the Japanese did when they took Ambon, Timor, Rabaul and Malaya would turn you shit white.

But remember, as far as Graeme is concerned, it was only ever to do with the nasty Juice…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:31 pm

The allies wouldn’t have had a war strategy based on the incineration of civilians, in the context of making war against a country that had been allied with the British and the United States and were desperately trying to stay that way.

Well, that’s ahistorical bullshit.

Japan knew its only serious rival in the region was the United States, and had planned so for a long time. Everything from its ‘Co-Prosperity Sphere’ to some 25 years of naval planning (including thumbing its nose at the Washington Treat), was designed to set itself up as a truly self-sufficient peer competitor in the Pacific.

Why do you think the Chinese have aped the concept, but inserted a clever twist in the form of making their own island chains?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:32 pm

(including thumbing its nose at the Washington Treaty),

Correction.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 1:32 pm

Former England Test spinner Monty Panesar has said it’s wrong for the BBC to blacklist former England captain Michael Vaughan from their Ashes broadcast whilst allegations of him making racist remarks to Asian players at Yorkshire remain unproven, saying it’s a denial of natural justice.

Say, remember when the Left deplored the tactics of McCarthyism?

There’s no principle these useful idiots won’t sacrifice for the cause.

Reminds me of the story of KGB agent & later defector Yuri Bezmenov, who was stationed in New Delhi in the 1960s. One day he came across the KGB’s list of Indians to be targetted for assassination should the country ever fall to Communism, which was not an unrealistic prospect in those days as the Soviets had a lot of influence on the Indian government (in fact the Russian-Indian “special relationship” continues to this day). The list comprised mainly idealistic leftists, including pro-Soviet journalists. He was told they would be killed because they would become disillusioned and antagonistic once they experienced the true nature of Soviet Communism.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 28, 2021 1:32 pm

And of the North Borneo Aussie POWs I think one man survived, out of about 2,500

There were six survivors of 2,700 of those P.O.W’s – four lived to give evidence at the war crimes trials.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:34 pm

Everything from its ‘Co-Prosperity Sphere’ to some 25 years of naval planning (including thumbing its nose at the Washington Treat), was designed to set itself up as a truly self-sufficient peer competitor in the Pacific.

The Japanese government had derived a beautifully worded, 14-part declaration of war on the US that was supposed to be given to Washington just prior to the IJN’s carrier strike force making landfall over Hawaii, but due to timezone flubs and cackhanded cipher clerks, the fully decrypted and translated message did not arrive in American hands until some time after the bombs had stopped falling.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 28, 2021 1:34 pm

The Japanese were holding around 300,000 POWs in mid-1945.

The orders had gone out to kill them all if an invasion of the Home Islands had started. In some places the mass grave pits had even been dug.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
November 28, 2021 1:37 pm

Looks like Graeme pulled the trigger on the last Ban Roulette chamber while we were kicking him about his lethal wrongology regarding Japan.

Thanks, d0ver.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 28, 2021 1:39 pm

In some places the mass grave pits had even been dug.

One Australian POW, watching the pits being dug, remarked that he didn’t think the Japs were taking up gardening…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 1:41 pm

Thanks for that Zulu. When I read the account a few nights ago it was a like a fever dream. Very nasty.

Then I read about the Rabaul survivors and some of the things done to them at Tol Plantation on the SE coast years before. That was about as bad.

rickw
rickw
November 28, 2021 1:44 pm

1) Unfortunately, even after full infective dose exposure, less than 20% of people will even develop a positive PCR

Is this because of natural/existing immunity not allowing enough virus to be present to trigger the test?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 28, 2021 1:49 pm

And of the North Borneo Aussie POWs I think one man survived, out of about 2,500

Three of the locals – three brothers – were taken prisoner with 2/4th Machine Gun Regiment at Singapore. They didn’t survive.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
November 28, 2021 1:54 pm

Paintings depicting George Floyd as Jesus Christ hang in both The Catholic University of America’s campus ministry office and its law school, The Daily Signal has learned.

Catholic University appeared to shrug off responsibility for the painting Monday, telling The Daily Signal that artist Kelly Latimore’s painting “Mama” depicts “the Virgin Mary supporting the body of the dead Christ”—although the artist has indicated repeatedly that his painting depicts both Floyd and Jesus.

Crossie
Crossie
November 28, 2021 1:55 pm

Just read the official AWM accounts of Australian POWs held by the Japanese.
After which I felt the Hiroshima and Nagasaki attacks were a blessing.
For the Japanese. It cracked them out of a really noxious cultural psychosis.
Let me say I like the Japanese a whole lot less than I used to after reading that history. But they’ve behaved very well for over 75 years now, so there’s hope for them.

Bruce, since the war the Japanese have behaved much more rationally than the Germans who still see-saw from ostensible philanthropy to utter authoritarianism.

Crossie
Crossie
November 28, 2021 1:57 pm

Zyconoclast says:
November 28, 2021 at 1:49 pm
Notre Dame ‘is being turned into a woke theme park’: Cathedral is being revamped with a ‘discovery trail’ and ‘Christianity for dummies’ exhibits, claim critics

But of course it is. It’s being rebuilt by people who see it as a historical artefact and not a spiritual sanctuary.

P
P
November 28, 2021 2:00 pm

This Pivotal Moment, vaccine passports. (17 Minutes)

h/t theconservativetreehouse

Winston Smith's Keyboard.
November 28, 2021 2:03 pm

Mater:

Does that BBQ look like a stage prop or what?

It looks like a collage.
Have the replaced the kid who did the nurse and hospital setting?
Did they look at his resume?

Bons
November 28, 2021 2:05 pm

Could any informed NSW cats background the media reports claiming a war between Morrisson and the LNP Executive over preselection and the naughty chaps who have been displaying personal morality in Parliament:
I would have thought that Morrisson’s big crony owners on the Executive would be very keen to flick anyone who shows heretical independance;
or, does Morrisson have a list of favourites that differs from the Photios, Textor, Turnbull list of crony submissives ?
Crony politics is impossibly byzantine and opaque.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 28, 2021 2:05 pm

I try not to look at History like the decisions to target Dresden of Hiroshima/Nagasaki through modern eyes. The world at the time had been through 6 years of brutal conflict and the scale of atrocities committed in Europe were becoming known. We even had bombs landing on the Australian mainland and shells fired at our most populous city. One of my grandfathers was still involved in actions at Balikpapan. People would have just wanted it over or would have wanted vengeance. I suspect at the time the a bomb attacks would have been widely supported.

For travelling Cats looking exotic locations, Thailand JEATH Museum at Kanchanaburi has an excellent display and accounts of Japanese atrocities not only on POW’s but the hapless Thais, Malays, ethnic Chinese peoples of the region that were often pressganged into service by deception. The Australian Hellfire Pass Museum similar but to a lesser extent. As Bruce & Z2KA describe above the Japs were very nasty. The Americans were training Thais by the end of the war as partisan rebels and weren’t short of recruits in 1945, even the local populations were off the Japanese.

Roger
Roger
November 28, 2021 2:05 pm

Here we go again…

WA has reportedly revoked entry permits for residents from SA over Omicron concerns after SA announced three new cases who appear to have contracted the virus whilst interstate.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 28, 2021 2:06 pm

For those who are interested in such things what I’d been reading was The Japanese Thrust edited by L G Wigmore:

Part III – Prisoners of the Japanese
and
Appendix 4 – Ordeal on New Britain

Winston Smith
November 28, 2021 2:10 pm

Bruce O’Newk:

“It’s as if Disney were entering Notre Dame,” Paris-based architect and critic Maurice Culot told The Telegram after seeing the plans.
“What they are proposing to do to Notre Dame would never be done to Westminster Abbey or Saint Peter’s in Rome. It’s kind of a theme park and very childish and trivial, given the grandeur of the place.”

Bloody Barbarians.

Bons
November 28, 2021 2:14 pm

Is there anyone who does not believe that Morrisson’s amateurish internet defamation and religious freedom bills are anything other than tools for the incoming Plibersek Govt to completely suppress free speech and to destroy all except ROP religious freedoms.
In my darker moments I scream “how could they be so stupid”, but then realise that the repression tools are not intended for use by Labor, they are for Morrisson, Hunt, Joyce and the LNP greens/LGP…. to wield. If Labor score the benefits; well so be it.

caveman
caveman
November 28, 2021 2:14 pm
rosie
rosie
November 28, 2021 2:17 pm

When Ed says something will happen I have a great deal more confidence it won’t.
Thanks Ed!

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

There were six survivors of 2,700 of those P.O.W’s

Those six survived because they were able to, and did, escape.
Of those who remained in custody, the number of survivors was zero.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 2:25 pm

The Yanks transferred the entire Unit 731, along with all the evidence, to the U.S., where they lived out their lives as respected citizens.
They were pretty selective about who was a War Criminal and who wasn’t.
Werner Von Braun, he was welcomed too.

Bons
November 28, 2021 2:25 pm

The Frogs are definitely bizarre, but I don’t for one moment believe that they will permit the desecration of Notre Dame.
Paris is still on the verge of revolt over Pompidou’s barbarian constructions. Mayor Commie will meet her match over the most revered monument in French culture.
The Academie Francais may have been penetrated by lefties but they know where the limits lie.

sfw
sfw
November 28, 2021 2:25 pm

Cohenite – Lard is good for you, dairy is good for you, meat is good for you, three veg with meat is good for you. Everything they say is bad for you is good for you.

I’m 65, I didn’t know anybody who was fat when I was growing up, none of my relatives, none of my parents friends, none of my friends. There were a few fat kids at school, they were usually Italian. Now what do (or did) Italians eat back then? Pasta, lots of it. Carbs make you fat and vegetable oils are bad for you.

It’s simple, but like wuflu the establishment refuses to look at the real world.

Ed Case
Ed Case
November 28, 2021 2:26 pm

When Ed says something will happen I have a great deal more confidence it won’t.
Thanks Ed!

It’s already happening, dumbo, McGowan just closed the border.

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