When being far-right is just right


“Emmanuel Macron has won the first round of the French election and far-right rival Marine Le Pen will fight him for the presidency for a second time.” This extract is from the BBC.

“France’s incumbent leader Emmanuel Macron and far-right challenger Marine Le Pen are heading for an April 24 presidential election run-off.” This is an extract from the ABC.

“France voted on Sunday…to produce a runoff rematch between Emmanuel Macron and far-right leader Marine Le Pen.” This is an extract from the Australian newspaper. I could go on and on.

Notice how Marine Le Pen has to be tagged far-right. Irritating for those of us on the conservative right who suspect we too would be tagged far-right if we were important enough.

Luckily this time around,Eric Zemmour, even further right because he opposes the Islamisation of France with even more vigour than Le Pen, gives Le Pen some protection from the globalist scolds occupying the media. Though not much. And now that Zemmour is out, all guns can be turned on “far-right” Le Pen.

Look, two sins to begin with: she wants French law to have primacy over Europe legislation and she opposes wind farms and wants more support for nuclear energy. And, a third, on immigration, she wants France to control its own immigration policies; to decide who can stay and who must leave. Echoes of far-right John Howard there.

It’s clear. If you’re for America first; or, in this case, for France first; in other words, if you are a patriot; like, say, Viktor Orban, you are, by definition, far right. How delicious to picture the Europhiles squirming when seeing Orban re-elected. Hungary for Hungarians. What, not for allowing in hordes of culturally discordant asylum seekers? What perfidy is this?

From now, I intend to describe myself as far right, if I think it will upset any lefties in sight. I’ll just slip it in. “Yes, well, you know, I happen to be far right, just like Viktor Orban.”

Conservatives, and perhaps only conservatives, know that the preservation of freedom depends on the integrity of the nation state. Of course, there are now grave threats from within. That’s no reason to add to them from abroad. It’s no mischance that Europhiles, globalists, collectivists, Marxists, greenies, open-border creeps, despise national borders. They despise individual freedom.


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Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
April 13, 2022 3:19 pm

I just describe myself as conservative. But others have said I am to the right of Gengis Khan, nice compliment I think.
As for Marine Le Pen, she is just slightly right of centre.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
April 13, 2022 3:23 pm

Conservatives, and perhaps only conservatives, know that the preservation of freedom depends on the integrity of the nation state.

Conservatism, if it ever existed in modern times was the poorly disguised rear guard for the progressives.

Even the more attractive Traditionalism is dead.

Something new has to be created from this funeral pyre.
We just have to wait and continue to watch civilisation crash and completely burn first.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
April 13, 2022 3:27 pm

To the media, anything outside the narrative is “far right”.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 13, 2022 3:34 pm

she wants French law to have primacy over Europe legislation

Amazing, isn’t it?

In the EU every nation’s representative’s vote binds more people in other nations than their own. And, conversely, for every regulation imposed upon a citizen anywhere in Europe most of the ‘authority’ comes from people in other countries with whom they have no political connection at all. They cannot vote for them, they cannot vote for the people that select them – a Frenchman has absolutely no say in who the Germans appoint.

The other funny thing is that things that were normal, even foundational, until a very short time ago, and often going back centuries, are labeled ‘far right’ as if some new fringe group of extremists have come up with it. That marriage is between a man and a women, that there are two sexes, that a country can and should be selective of their migrant intake with a view to impact on the citizens already there, that the government should mind its own business, that it should be following the public will rather than imposing their own, etc.

‘Far Right’ is the label leftists use to make common sense seem disreputable.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 13, 2022 3:42 pm

Antifa seems to think Macron is far-right since they were rioting after their guy didn’t get into the run off.

Antifa Riots In French Cities Because They Didn’t Like The Election Result (12 Apr)

I suppose when you are as far-left as they are any normal person would look far-right.

jupes
jupes
April 13, 2022 3:44 pm

Step 1: Pull off probably the greatest propaganda coup in history and label the far left Nazis as ‘far right’.
Step 2: Define the Nazis by their racism. Therefore ‘far right’ equals racist.
Step 3: Insert the caveat that only white people can be racist. Thus Muslims can continue with their racism and anti-white racism is accepted.
Step 4: Link immigration control to racism.

And there you have it. Anyone who opposes immigration is far-right, racist and probably a Nazi.

Tom
Tom
April 13, 2022 4:01 pm

All that the world’s far left, including 90% of the media, have left is propaganda labels they imagine are weapons, which simply deflect from their radicalism that no-one will ever vote for, which is why they have put so much effort into denying and covering up the theft of the 2020 US presidential election.

Democracy is the mortal enemy of the far left, which can’t win democratic elections without lies masking its true agenda – destruction of the family, dependence of the majority on government welfare as a replacement for the father and the end of the free market.

Ninety per cent of the news media has become a far-left political party and all of its output is 24/7 campaign propaganda.

The news media hasn’t been a source of news for nearly two decades because most journalists now see themselves as political activists who not only loathe the public, but can never be trusted to convey information impartially as it doesn’t fit a political agenda.

Roger
Roger
April 13, 2022 4:03 pm

As I wrote on the OT this morning…

If the “far-right” Le Pen wins the presidency of France, wouldn’t that make her “centre-right”?

Because the electoral centre will have moved right, right?

And that would leave most journalists on the “far-left”.

Lee
Lee
April 13, 2022 4:13 pm

Funny how if you currently have what would have been considered mainstream values only a few years ago, you’re labeled variously “far-right,” “white supremacist,” or even “Nazi”, while even those on the extreme left – BLM, Antifa, various Green parties – are almost never called “left wing,” let alone far or extreme left.

Zipster
Zipster
April 13, 2022 4:24 pm

In the EU every nation’s representative’s vote binds more people in other nations than their own. And, conversely, for every regulation imposed upon a citizen anywhere in Europe most of the ‘authority’ comes from people in other countries with whom they have no political connection at all.

It’s worse than that EU has an unelected swarm of bugmen bureaucrats

Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
April 13, 2022 4:25 pm

Anything to the right of Joseph Stalin is now far right. It has no meaning.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 13, 2022 4:27 pm

It has no meaning.

Explains why it is the terminology j’ismists use.

WolfmanOz
April 13, 2022 4:38 pm

Put me down for being “far-right”.

Zipster
Zipster
April 13, 2022 4:44 pm

while even those on the extreme left – BLM, Antifa, various Green parties – are almost never called “left wing,” let alone far or extreme left.

there is no left, it’s just the far right and the woke aka globalists aka international communists

Bazinga
Bazinga
April 13, 2022 4:53 pm

In that case I’m far-right as well as being factually right. Maybe we should just label the left “wrong” or “gauche” or “sinister”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
April 13, 2022 5:40 pm

Have always considered myself a conservative but now it seems that is far right. Proud to be there. To me it is about common sense.

Roger
Roger
April 13, 2022 5:50 pm

…far right. It has no meaning.

On the contrary; it’s used as a slander precisely because it has meaning.

John Sheldrick
April 13, 2022 6:27 pm

Far out……..This is all far too much for me.

And why is there a Far North Queensland and not a Far South Queensland? In soccer (football) you could be a left back (left back in the dressing room) or a right back. Or you could have played on the left wing or the right wing just like in Politics.

All these labels. It is all far too much……………………………

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 13, 2022 6:38 pm

Le Pen is a joke candidate anyway.
All she’s achieved by running is to make Macron a certainty.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
April 13, 2022 6:50 pm

I quite enjoy describing myself as an “extreme right-wing extremist”, and then following on with a middlingly reasonable observation such as “and so I believe that a schoolteacher should be jailed if they present anything other that G-rated images or themes to someone else’s child”, or “and so I hope that grass-roots artists can connect with a market which values their work, free from the distorting interference of political commissions or funding” or, “and so I’m appalled that the government thinks that it should be in the business of running airlines, communications or an enforced medical police state”.

Petros
Petros
April 13, 2022 7:10 pm

We are normals. Bugger these socialist scum.

Okef
Okef
April 13, 2022 7:32 pm

Previous form of slender , fascist (used extensively by Soviets, “republican” Spaniards), now becomes far-right or ultra-right.
“If you lose in a debate, call your opponent a fascist”
Tried to clarified this with
The Australians, in vain, gave up subscription.

Beertruk
Beertruk
April 13, 2022 7:47 pm

Far Right = Right so far.

NoFixedAddress
NoFixedAddress
April 13, 2022 8:17 pm

Whom are the Far-Left then?

In Australia it is the UniParty so if your not a lap dog for Far-Left UniParty Crap you are Far Right.

Ok… got the message.

Digital ID for all please.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 13, 2022 8:41 pm

Big_Nambassays:
April 13, 2022 at 3:19 pm
I just describe myself as conservative. But others have said I am to the right of Gengis Khan, nice compliment I think.

I’m not sure that Genghis allowed much freedom of speech among members of the Golden Horde. Indeed, his approach seemed to be very collectivist.

Angus Black
Angus Black
April 13, 2022 9:38 pm

If the “far-right” Le Pen wins the presidency of France, wouldn’t that make her “centre-right”?

No. I’d have thought winning the presidency would, by definition, make her the “sensible centre”.

Maniac
Maniac
April 13, 2022 10:13 pm

Far-Right = anyone who disagrees with the far-Left.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 13, 2022 10:20 pm

If you’re not far right are you even trying? Go and open the Overton Window.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 13, 2022 10:25 pm

Family dinner last night. Pretty sure DiL is being groomed by the liars for the future. Some political dialogue ensues, I made sure to include the looney left labor party several times and watched her squirm. She does excellent work, really cares about people and is straight up but gets caught up in woke crap.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
April 13, 2022 11:45 pm

Throw their own shit at them. Don’t let their labels stuck. Whatever they call you, you’re something else.

Their definition of far right is akin to calling an octopus an aardvark. It has no meaning, and assumes individual rights are somehow radical thought. Fuck em.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
April 14, 2022 9:19 am

As usual, George Orwell had it figured out

Particularly on the Left, political thought is a sort of masturbation fantasy in which the world of facts hardly matters.

“London Letter” in Partisan Review (Winter 1944)

What sickens me about left-wing people, especially the intellectuals, is their utter ignorance of the way things actually happen.

“George Orwell: A Life in Letters” by Peter Davison, a letter of October 1938

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
April 14, 2022 9:26 am

Ed Case says:
April 13, 2022 at 6:38 pm

Le Pen is a joke candidate anyway.
All she’s achieved by running is to make Macron a certainty.

You mean I am going to lose my $500.00???

areff
areff
April 14, 2022 9:38 am

From now, I intend to describe myself as far right

Kameradin!

tommbell
tommbell
April 14, 2022 3:40 pm

Thank the Lord. For a while there I thought I may have been alt-Right!

Karabar
Karabar
April 14, 2022 5:42 pm

There is no right and left.
Only right and wrong.

Anchor What
Anchor What
April 15, 2022 6:55 am

Far too many here will label me as worse than any mere political spectroscopy can achieve – I am a boomer.

Boffin
Boffin
April 16, 2022 11:46 am

Mr Smith: I’m a conservative. But I do not find immigrants “culturally discordant”. In this country, they are in fact the population exclusive of indigenous people. A very large number were asylum seekers: quite a few in the early settlements, fairly large numbers in the 1930s onwards from the war. Then of course a variety of folk from Vietnam and so on – many of them asylum seekers. Lately, there has been a trickle of asylum seekers. But also a quite large flow of immigrants of a wholly usual kind, none claiming asylum. Over all that time the variety of cultural origins has been diverse . Yet there’s no real sign of discord?
Is there an issue?

Winston Smith
April 16, 2022 8:35 pm

Boffin:

Over all that time the variety of cultural origins has been diverse . Yet there’s no real sign of discord?
Is there an issue?

Obviously, Mr Boffin, you’ve been asleep for the last thirty years.
Talk to us when you’ve caught up.

Boffin
Boffin
April 17, 2022 5:35 pm

Winston Smith: on the contrary, I’ve been quite present. I have been surprised actually by the remarkably easy time we have had with the rate of immigration. In fact I’m reflecting just now on the day at the beach on which quite a wide variety of cultural and racial origins were in evidence and many of them mixed together. And I’m enjoying a cool Colonial Pale Ale as I do that. Happy Easter!

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