Open Thread – Tues 19 April 2022


Crossing of the Red Sea, Nicolas Poussin, 1633-34

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2022 1:01 pm

I don’t think Pharaohs could swim in those days.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
April 19, 2022 1:03 pm

Top 10, yay.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 1:04 pm

I notice Barnsey’s son, David Campbell (apprently a TV “personality”) is running cover for Elbow, saying that it was all his father’s idea.

Does Labor need to be reminded of their unfortunate history with superannuated rockers?

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2022 1:13 pm

Present!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 19, 2022 1:13 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
April 19, 2022 at 1:01 pm
I don’t think Pharaohs could swim in those days.

Certainly not Aussie crawl.

rickw
rickw
April 19, 2022 1:17 pm

OldOzziesays:
April 19, 2022 at 12:51 pm
Genius’ shopping centre offers ‘husband storage pods’ where wives can leave their partners to play games while they browse the stores

I had always thought a Tool Shop of Gun Shop located in a shopping centre could do quite well!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 1:18 pm

7th!

Heaven!

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 1:20 pm

Tractor.

Bruce in WA
April 19, 2022 1:21 pm

Drinks boy!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 19, 2022 1:26 pm

Trying to purchase – Stihl GTA 26 10.8V 100mm Cordless Garden Pruner Saw Kit $279.00

Hi,

Thank you for your message.

Due to STIHL policy, they do not allow their items to be delivered. If you wish to purchase any STIHL items this will need to be organised via click and collect from your local STIHL dealership.

In response sent

Thanks,

Has to be a Role Model in how not to do business in the Modern Age – Stihl Dumb and possibly in contradiction of

Anti-competitive conduct

Section 45 of the Competition and Consumer Act prohibits contracts, arrangements, understandings or concerted practices that have the purpose, effect or likely effect of substantially lessening competition in a market, even if that conduct does not meet the stricter definitions of other anti-competitive conduct such as cartels.

Again thanks for responding and explaining the situation

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I notice Barnsey’s son, David Campbell (apprently a TV “personality”) is running cover for Elbow, saying that it was all his father’s idea.

Huh? Albanese (& Labor party) are acting on the advice of … Jimmy Barnes?

If they keep that up, Scomo will romp it in by a furlong.

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 1:29 pm

ixnay! ixnay!

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 1:29 pm

Putin: “Russia has withstood” Sanctions – Inside Russia Report
“Russia has withstood this unprecedented pressure. The situation is stabilizing, the ruble’s exchange rate has returned to the levels of the first half of February and is being defined by the objectively strong payment balance,”: https://tass.com/economy/1439247

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2022 1:31 pm

Leftist comedy is as funny as herpes.

Jon Stewart’s ‘super-woke’ Apple TV+ show a ‘flop’: Report (18 Apr)

Former “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart’s woke new series “The Problem with Jon Stewart” has been dubbed a flop, according to new reports.

Stewart’s Apple TV+ show, which debuted in September, averaged only about 180,000 U.S. homes within the first week. By the fifth episode in March, viewership went down 78% to only 40,000 U.S. homes within seven days, according to Bloomberg.

I suspect it didn’t help that Jon Stewart has been a tiny bit red pilled lately. The Left would regard him as a traitor to the cause and the Right wouldn’t ever watch him anyway.

Kneel
Kneel
April 19, 2022 1:40 pm

“… averaged only about 180,000 U.S. homes within the first week.”

Better than CNN+ anyway…

sfw
sfw
April 19, 2022 1:41 pm

More UAP policies released.

First $30,000 of interest on home loans to be tax deductible.

Living more than 200km from a capital city a 20% tax concession.

A Bill of Rights.

No Gov spying or accessing private info without permission and no sharing of any info.

Age pension increase of $180 fortnight.

Reduced tax on second jobs.

Nuclear subs asap and increase defence.

No HECS

Expand military gold card benefits.

Only products that have 95% min Australian content to be labelled as Australian.

Much more, the usual Clive haters and doomsayers here will denigrate the policies but there’s a lot to like there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 19, 2022 1:43 pm

sfwsays:

April 19, 2022 at 1:41 pm

More UAP policies released.

First $30,000 of interest on home loans to be tax deductible.

At their capped interest rates of 3%, that is a $1,000,000 loan.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 19, 2022 1:45 pm

Reduced tax on second jobs.

Good.
I will just restructure my employment to two separate contracts.

John Brumble
John Brumble
April 19, 2022 1:46 pm

How do you say “unintended consequences” without saying “unintended consequences”?

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 1:46 pm

Sancho Panzer:

That’s cheap.
Captain Snooze charges $500 for a mattress.

Yes, but they don’t come with the biological extras.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
April 19, 2022 1:46 pm

Old Aussie, Stihl are just doing Apple Store. (Might also have something to do with Cd-Li being a bit explodey) If that’s their bag, good luck to them.
My local dealership currently has a policy of having a spotty sprog try and talk you into battery powered “tools” and “mod systems” and “skins”- they are obviously flat out begging for brand capture- with the end result of me buying another 2-stroke and having fantasies of massacre’ing them all.

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 1:48 pm

Visualizing the World’s Fertility Rate over 200 years
00:16 Fertility map 1900-2022
03:56 Causes: Intro
05:13 Causes: Wealth and labour
07:15 Causes: Education
09:29 Causes: Culture and religion
12:21 Fertility map projections 2022-2100

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 1:49 pm

Coalition pledges $75m for farmer loan guarantee
Jess Malcolm
JESS MALCOLM

The Morrison government will pledge $75m to assist farmers to buy land in a bid to strengthen the nation’s agricultural industry and turbocharge regional Australia.

The government will guarantee 40 per cent of eligible new farmers’ commercial loans up to a maximum value of $1m as part of its Future Farmer Guarantee Scheme.

The pledge comes as Agriculture Minister David Littleproud is set to debate opposition agriculture spokeswoman Julie Collins at the National Press Club in Canberra.

Mr Littleproud said the scheme would assist experienced farmers to access capital, which he said was the “number one barrier”.

“This support will help families access capital to assist with succession planning, as well as help those families and farmers getting into ownership for the first time.

“Government sharing the risk means that the bank can offer better terms to suitable applicants – lower interest rates and lower equity requirements.

“This is not a free for all – applicants will need to have on-farm experience, a minimum deposit and be a sound lending prospect from the banks’ perspective. The farmer is still on the hook for their loan.”

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
April 19, 2022 1:49 pm

A federal judge has slashed a Black former contract worker’s payout to $15 million — from $137 million — in a racial discrimination lawsuit against Tesla.

Owen Diaz, who worked as a contract elevator operator at the automaker’s factory in Fremont, Calif., sued the company in 2017, alleging that he was subjected to racial discrimination.

After a federal jury in San Francisco ordered Tesla to pay Diaz $137 million last year, Tesla challenged the verdict.

Tesla must pay $137 million to a Black employee who sued for racial discrimination
On Wednesday, Judge William Orrick cut the award to $15 million.

Diaz testified that employees called him the N-word among other racial slurs. A Tesla supervisor called him the N-word “more than 30 times,” Diaz testified, according to court documents obtained by NPR.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
April 19, 2022 1:56 pm

Better than Nauru or PNG except it will like not to happen

Voters back Boris Johnson’s plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda by two to one, a poll revealed last night.

The survey for the Daily Mail found that even Labour voters are more likely to support it than oppose it – potentially causing problems for party leader Sir Keir Starmer.

It comes after the Prime Minister vowed to face down Left-wing lawyers who try to thwart the move.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 1:57 pm

No HECS

Student loans? Like the US?

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 1:59 pm

there’s a lot to like there.

Only if you look from a distance of say 3ks.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 2:00 pm

A Bill of Rights?

That always works.

I think one of the benefits of the time America came into existence was that their idea of rights was rooted in the Enlightenment, and much of the history of their rights has set a precedent as to how they are meant to be understood and applied.

Can you imagine how an Australian Bill of Rights, drafted, promulgated, and defended with the current period as the baseline, would be used to sodomise everything of worth in the country?

Word is that Zimbabwe also has a bill of rights.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
April 19, 2022 2:01 pm

The pope doing the important work

“We are racists, we are racists. And this is bad,” the pope stated.

“Refugees are subdivided,” the pontiff declared during a lengthy Good Friday interview on Italian television. “There’s first class, second class, skin color, [whether] they come from a developed country [or] one that is not developed.”

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
April 19, 2022 2:02 pm

There’s a shedload of rortability there, sfw

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 2:04 pm

“We are racists, we are racists. And this is bad,” the pope stated.

Progressives.

If they weren’t projecting they would have nothing to complain about.

Kneel
Kneel
April 19, 2022 2:05 pm

“Word is that Zimbabwe also has a bill of rights.”

Canada has one too. Yeah, that worked for them…
Hence need to be part of constitution, not a law than can say doesn’t apply in specific circumstances.

sfw
sfw
April 19, 2022 2:05 pm

Bespoke, how about why you don’t like them?

Mother Lode, I was always against a bill of rights however the last two years have demonstrated that we need one. Of course any poorly written bill can be abused or not work, so if we had one it would need to be in the constitution and I would almost use the US one word for word, including the second amendment. I would’ve thought that the trashing of our rights over the wuflu period would’ve convinced most people how poorly our system worked in defending our freedom.

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 2:05 pm

Diaz testified that employees called him the N-word among other racial slurs. A Tesla supervisor called him the N-word “more than 30 times,” Diaz testified, according to court documents obtained by NPR.

$1/2m a word, was it tupac?

Rabz
April 19, 2022 2:06 pm

Age pension increase of $180 fortnight.

No HECS

These are not sensible policies, they’re brazen attempts to milk the votes of certain demographics.

No HECS (and forgiveness of existing HECS debt) is a greenfilth policy, BTW.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 19, 2022 2:07 pm

Wally Dalisays:
April 19, 2022 at 1:46 pm
Old Aussie, Stihl are just doing Apple Store. (Might also have something to do with Cd-Li being a bit explodey) If that’s their bag, good luck to them.

My local dealership currently has a policy of having a spotty sprog try and talk you into battery powered “tools” and “mod systems” and “skins”- they are obviously flat out begging for brand capture- with the end result of me buying another 2-stroke and having fantasies of massacre’ing them all.

I purchased EGO POWER+ Multi-Tool System with extensions, chainsaw and hedge trimmer – I have 2 stroke powered chainsaw, but find EGO Light and convenient and good for son-in-law to use (Big Garden)

As 77 and wife 75, have big manual cutters, but a bit too much for her – Stihl GTA 26 10.8V 100mm Cordless Garden Pruner Saw Kit small and easy to use, as is one handed Ryobi 18V Hedge Shears (Hedge Trimmer as well) which is excellent for Box Hedges and small Hedges

sfw
sfw
April 19, 2022 2:09 pm

Wally all policies are open to abuse, I guess you prefer the status quo and the uniparty and steady as she goes.

Dover, I’m in two minds about the HECS, like you say there’s way too many people in uni already, most of whom shouldn’t be there. If the courses are free it will likely lead to more people attending and dropping out or doing useless (or harmful) degrees. Fewer places and competitive entry could fix that though.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
April 19, 2022 2:09 pm

There’s a shedload of rortability there, sfw

So no different from what we have now.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 2:10 pm

No HECS (and forgiveness of existing HECS debt) is a greenfilth policy, BTW.

I took it to mean not that uni education was to be free, but that students would have to arrange their own finances.

I heard that, before Goof got in and decided to repair something that wasn’t broken, that there were numerous government funded scholarships – but that they had to be earned. Was that the old system?

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 2:11 pm

Mother Lodesays:
April 19, 2022 at 2:00 pm
A Bill of Rights?

That always works

America is definitely more free than other Anglophone nations.

It definitely worked.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 2:14 pm

I heard that, before Goof got in and decided to repair something that wasn’t broken, that there were numerous government funded scholarships – but that they had to be earned. Was that the old system?

As I remember it – yes – Commonwealth scholarships.

Rabz
April 19, 2022 2:15 pm

I took it to mean not that uni education was to be free, but that students would have to arrange their own finances.

I’ll check if there’s any clarity on their website – and no, there isn’t.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 2:16 pm

The problem with universities is universities.

Law should be almost 100% correspondence and having a job… mathematics, stats, IT can all be done online. Chem, bio, physics, medicine…sure that’s gotta be in person, but the inefficiencies are massive.

If professions could grant their own degrees, universities would have their days numbered.

Rabz
April 19, 2022 2:16 pm

oops – please the following: https://www.unitedaustraliaparty.org.au/hecs-holding-australias-smartest-minds-back-clive-palmer/

Mention of the dreaded term “free university”.

sfw
sfw
April 19, 2022 2:16 pm

Rabz, I’m not promoting them however I fail to see why the policies are as bad as the majors and the greens. UAP wants votes and as always people want things, I guess it’s who gets stuff, Labor will enrich the public service and the unions and their mates and the Libs will do the same except for some unions.

Kneel
Kneel
April 19, 2022 2:16 pm

“Wally Dalisays:
April 19, 2022 at 1:46 pm
Old Aussie, Stihl are just doing Apple Store. (Might also have something to do with Cd-Li being a bit explodey) If that’s their bag, good luck to them…”

You realise, of course, that under Australian consumer law (well, NSW at least) when the store says “Apple say the purchaser has to send it directly back to them for warranty work”, you can say “Consumer law says YOU have to take it, so if Apple won’t accept it from you then YOU can replace it or refund me, so which would you like to do?” When they arc up, you can always say “Not my fault you deal with a company that breaches consumer law – would you prefer I take this to the ACCC?”

Well, if they’re pissing you off, you can.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 19, 2022 2:18 pm

No HECS (and forgiveness of existing HECS debt) is a greenfilth policy, BTW.

I don’t understand the fuss.

Practically anyone other than the usual Greens B.Arts voters* who acquires a HECS or FEE-HELP debt will inevitably pay it off within 5-7 years. It just takes a long time from the graduate’s first entry-level job.

I only noticed mine for about 4 or 5 years, because the WA Department of Health was incompetent and failed to correctly deduct the HECS every fortnight. And I thus had to pay a lump sum every EOFY on my tax return. And then it was suddenly gone.

* Because their chosen qualifications rarely translate into something workable. A Science or Engineering or Law, etc. degree or basic trades certificate will not necessarily give you the smarts and knowledge to jump straight into the dream role. But you can make a start in something.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 2:19 pm

A Bill of Rights.

No Gov spying or accessing private info without permission and no sharing of any info.

They deserve your preferences on that alone.

Rabz
April 19, 2022 2:21 pm

The problem with universities is universities

Certainly here they’ve outlived whatever usefulness they may once have had and are now an inexcusable deadweight hindering this country’s progress. The foreign student rort being the most obvious.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 19, 2022 2:21 pm

Chem, bio, physics, medicine…sure that’s gotta be in person, but the inefficiencies are massive.

Residential Schools. 2-3 week blocks of practical classes/exams. Everything else (assignments and major unit exams) can easily be done remotely.

I did my final year of B. Medical Science by correspondence. And later, a Grad. Cert and Grad. Dip in Sleep Medicine.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
April 19, 2022 2:22 pm

The Bill of Rights, curtailing of mass surveillance and taking the defence of the realm seriously is plenty enough for me.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 2:24 pm

SFW:

Only products that have 95% min Australian content to be labelled as Australian.

Bought a Sunbeam toaster and eclectic jug.
Got them home, Australia stamped all over the place.
Had to adjust the top opening catch so it could be opened -handy to enable putting water in.
4 Slice toaster – the bloody element is too small for the bread – only the central bottom corner of each slice is toasted – the rest is barely warm. It actually looks like a two slice element put into the bigger frame.
Hmmm… checks box – Designed in Australia – made in China in microfont.
No more Sunbeam products for this house.

Rabz
April 19, 2022 2:26 pm

sfw, I don’t disagree with a significant number of their policies, but it’s clangers like the ones noted that stick in the craw (the 3% fixed interest rate is another one).

Anyway, casting a legitimate vote in the HoR, at least in my electorate is a non starter. I will cast a legitimate vote in the senate, choosing most likely LDP, UAP and/or PHON, depending on the number of places available.

I certainly hope the useless bloody AEC gets their advice on how vote in the senate correct this time. Hint – it is not a double dissolution election.

shatterzzz
April 19, 2022 2:27 pm

More UAP policies released.
Given that UAP is not gonna be the majority party come May 22 whatever policies they have or don’t have are just thought bubbles .. more worrying is the possibility of Labor not only listening to Green rubbish but implementing any of it .. FFS!

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 2:28 pm

Let’s hope enough of our countrymen are pissed off enough, can use Google or can break their conditioning.

https://www.ldp.org.au/freedom

Prelude
Australia is in peril. Typically when a nation faces a grave challenge it is because of international tension or an economic slump. The national trial we face is caused by a failure of political leadership. Our state and federal leaders from both major parties have proven themselves inept.

We will overcome this challenge and do so with strength, but we need real leadership.

Australia had the world’s fastest growing economy in the 20th century. Over the past decade however the major parties have abandoned the economic principles which delivered so much success. They still talk about low taxes and balanced budgets but in practice have become reform sloths.

Their extraordinary over-reaction to COVID has only magnified our accumulating economic woes. In the name of ‘zero-COVID’ we have doubled an already dangerously high commonwealth debt. Misplaced COVID hysteria has violated what many assumed were inviolable civil liberties. When citizens fear the police more than the virus, we have a crisis. We are now internationally infamous for going further down this dark COVID path than any other nation.

Australian federal politics needs a radical jolt.

The Liberal Democrats have advocated for citizen-trusting, freedom-loving and small government policies since 2001. We aim to cultivate a society of peace and prosperity based on individual freedom, personal responsibility, private property rights and voluntary association. This Freedom Manifesto outlines our priorities for the coming federal election.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 2:31 pm

Just to spur on discussion.

https://www.onenation.org.au/issues

God speed to upending the LN/P-ALP-GRN axis

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 2:31 pm

ML

Word is that Zimbabwe also has a bill of rights.

So did the Soviet Union.

“You have the right to accommodation in a Gulag;

You have the right to be shot in the cellars of the Lubyanka; ….”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
April 19, 2022 2:32 pm

Joys of LifeIce Cream Cone filled with 3 flavours of Ice Cream delivered by 5 Year Old Grandson to me on Computer

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 2:33 pm

It definitely worked.

My concern is that the American rights considerably precede the current period, and they were very much reflected enlightenment values. It was written by ‘the winners’ – and the American Revolution was I think remarkable in that the guys who won it did not want to maintain control to enforce their vision of what victory was meant to look like.

It is not that I think a Bill of Rights is a bad thing, but I have difficulty seeing how we would get one now. Transgender rights to compete in whatever competitions they want, for example, is really only a fringe idea. Most Australians think it laughable. But it is treated very seriously by the elite establishment – almost as if it was a popular idea. Ten years ago it was nothing. Now it is forefront of the political conscience (as opposed to a real conscience).

So I suppose the question is how would a bill of rights be drafted and by whom? And when we get to vote on it? Look at the campaign to push SSM over the line. They created a false sense of what it was about and the good nature of ordinary people was used against them. Look at how easily people were persuaded that they were scared and the only security was locking people up in their own homes.

There may be a genius way to get a Bill that reflects Australian values, but it will have to sidestep the compromises and snares set up by political animals too.

zyonoclast
zyonoclast
April 19, 2022 2:34 pm

No more Sunbeam products for this house.

Breville does a much better job

Toaster
and
Kettle

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2022 2:36 pm

Uap policies.
Massive increase in social security expenditure.
Massive decrease in tax revenue.
What’s not to like?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
April 19, 2022 2:36 pm

Zipster says:
April 19, 2022 at 1:48 pm

Visualizing the World’s Fertility Rate over 200 years
00:16 Fertility map 1900-2022
03:56 Causes: Intro
05:13 Causes: Wealth and labour
07:15 Causes: Education
09:29 Causes: Culture and religion
12:21 Fertility map projections 2022-210

We’ll be extinct in a thousand years. Since I shan’t be here, I view this with quiet equanimity.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 19, 2022 2:36 pm

Bought a Sunbeam toaster and eclectic jug.
Mrs Eyrie was complaining that there were rust particles coming out of the Sunbeam steam iron. We took it apart and found the plate above where the water goes in was around 40 square centimeters of badly corroded) galvanised steel. Everything else was fine.
FFS would it kill ya to use stainless steel ya mongs!

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
April 19, 2022 2:37 pm

No more Sunbeam products for this house.

Breville does it better

Toaster
and
Kettle

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 2:38 pm

It is not that I think a Bill of Rights is a bad thing

Let me perhaps clarify – anything that solidifies and protects the right to free speech, free association, right to property, freedom of belief etc, such that it cannot be cynically turned around and used against those it is meant to protect sounds good to me.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 2:41 pm

Massive decrease in tax revenue.

There are plenty of places to cut fat in government spending.

And plenty of ways they can take their fat hobnailed boots off the necks of people who will happily produce wealth – which would actually cost the government less anyway.

zyconoclast
zyconoclast
April 19, 2022 2:44 pm

… cut fat …
… fat hobnailed boots …

The constant fat referencing will have Clive a Craig worried.

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2022 2:44 pm

If you’re going to have a reduced ‘second job tax’ why not a reduced overtime tax?
Or a reduced higher income tax?
The concern this addresses stems from people not understanding the tax free threshold is only applied to the amount of payg from your primary source of employment.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 2:47 pm

ML

And plenty of ways they can take their fat hobnailed boots off the necks of people who will happily produce wealth – which would actually cost the government less anyway.

They don’t care about the cost. To borrow a phrase, they lust for power over The Lives of Others.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 2:50 pm

Witness in Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case denies ‘blooding’ claims
Stephen Rice
NSW Editor
@riceyontheroad
19 minutes ago April 19, 2022

On the first day of Ben Roberts-Smith’s counter-attack against claims he committed war crimes, his former SAS patrol commander has emphatically denied ever killing an unarmed Afghan, or ordering anyone else to do so.

The soldier, known as Person 5, also gave evidence that a tunnel discovered in an Afghan compound was empty, countering claims by Nine newspapers that he had ordered the execution of an elderly man found hiding in it.

The newspapers claim Mr Roberts-Smith was present when Person 5 ordered another Australian soldier – Person 4 – to execute the man, so that Person 4 could be “blooded”.

Person 5, now retired from the military, is the first SAS witness to be called by the Victoria Cross winner in his defamation action against Nine newspapers.

Person 5 began his career with the Royal Marines and the Special Boat Service in the UK before joining the SAS in 2002, following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and rising to the rank of sergeant.

The veteran soldier was part of a raid on a compound known as Whiskey 108 in Uruzgan province on Easter Sunday in 2009.

Person 5 gave evidence about the moment a tunnel was discovered beneath a suspicious-looking mound of hay in the compound. Several soldiers volunteered to enter the tunnel to search it but the task eventually fell to a soldier known as Person 35, chosen because his slight stature would make it easier to navigate the confined space.

Person 35 took off his body armour and armed only with a pistol entered the tunnel, re-emerging after a couple of minutes to announce the tunnel was clear, Person 5 testified.

Person 5 said he then went to a meeting a short distance away with other team commanders. After hearing gunshots he ran towards the sound, where he saw Mr Roberts-Smith and another soldier, Person 4 in the north west corner of the compound.

He shouted to Mr Roberts-Smith, who told him they had just engaged two Taliban.

“KIA (killed in action)?” Person 5 asked.

“Yes”, Mr Roberts-Smith replied.

Person 5 returned to the meeting and reported the two KIA, he testified. The meeting then resumed to discuss how to destroy the large cache of weapons and ammunition that had been discovered at the compound.

Person 4 has refused to answer questions about his action in Whiskey 108 on the grounds of self-incrimination.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
April 19, 2022 2:51 pm

The constant fat referencing will have Clive a Craig worried.

Is that a fat.

I mean ‘fact’.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 2:52 pm

I’ll give it try Sfw

First $30,000 of interest on home loans to be tax deductible.

This will be absorbed by the mike all the ather schemes.

Living more than 200km from a capital city a 20% tax concession.

Could sold on the fact of less available services.

A Bill of Rights.

Need to see what they think is rights.

No Gov spying or accessing private info without permission and no sharing of any info.

Sound good. Needs to be clear though that creeps have such protection.

Age pension increase of $180 fortnight.

Popular but inflation will out strip this.

Reduced tax on second jobs.

Cheaper electricity ect to reduce the need for a second job.

Nuclear subs asap and increase defence.

Sound’s good. Cash!

No HECS

Does nothing towards higher education reform.

Expand military gold card benefits.

Don’t no if it’s needed.

Only products that have 95% min Australian content to be labelled as Australian.

Empty jingoism.

Bottom line. It’s just the usual vote bying.

Bubbles of Grafton
Bubbles of Grafton
April 19, 2022 2:57 pm

Gough did trash the system. He felt poor students weren’t able to afford the cost.Commonwealth offered two different types. A full scholarship covered whatever degree one wanted to enroll in, the other, a teaching scholarship consisting of one year at uni followed by a year at teachers college.
An allowance was included as well, extra for living away from home. Unfortunately I know a number of people who weren’t able to go because the allowance was small. The bureaucracy did not help as it took forever to actually get the money into one’s hand. The one remedy to fix the problem, an increase, was not considered.
Many of top 200 companies offered cadet ships, along with both state & federal government departments. These required a bond of a number of years work thereafter.
Students could pay their way, I know one federal politician who attained his degree this way. A certain standard was required to enroll.
Yes, a good system was destroyed.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 2:59 pm

Zipster:
Quite interesting video. The Current world population is peaking, and yet the Greens are still trying to get more people to have less children.
This leaves us in a quandary – are the people who are demanding less even when it appears the result at the end of the century will see their wishes granted. Is it because they want to be the ones who solved the population problem and cannot bear any other generation solving it? Or are they just megalomaniacs to whom life outside their own has no value?

duncanm
duncanm
April 19, 2022 3:02 pm

Winston Smithsays:
April 19, 2022 at 2:59 pm
Zipster:
Quite interesting video. The Current world population is peaking, and yet the Greens are still trying to get more people to have less children.

the greens are idiots.

The best way to a sustainable world population is through the growth (note: not redistribution) of wealth.

The data clearly shows that lifting people out of poverty reduces their birth rates.

Get some decent democracy, rule of law and capitalism into the third world shitholes and many problems are solved.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 3:02 pm

#This will be absorbed by the market like all the ather schemes.
#Could be sold on the fact there’s service’s available.
#Need to see what they think is rights.
#Sound good. Needs to be clear though that creeps don’t get such protection.
#Popular but inflation will out strip this.
#Cheaper electricity ect to reduce the need for a second job.
#Sound’s good. Cash!
#Does nothing towards higher education reform.
#Don’t no if it’s needed.
#Empty jingoism.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 3:04 pm

ZK2A:

The Morrison government will pledge $75m to assist farmers to buy land in a bid to strengthen the nation’s agricultural industry and turbocharge regional Australia.

Perhaps the Morrison Government should just piss off and mind their own business.
We all know that this $75 million will go nowhere but into the pockets of maaates and the department that will have to be created to administer the loans.
And in 5 years time it will cost a billion dollars.

shatterzzz
April 19, 2022 3:05 pm

FFS would it kill ya to use stainless steel ya mongs!

Just a wild guess but the number of folk who take apart their iron to check out the rust marks may not be enough to keep Sunbeam quality control on high alert .. LOL!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 3:07 pm

Expand military gold card benefits.

Don’t no if it’s needed.

As the holder of a “Gold card” I can’t see any further benefits being needed, but I would like to see a similar scheme for police officers injured in the line of duty.

shatterzzz
April 19, 2022 3:07 pm

and the department that will have to be created to administer the loans.

But .. think how good it looks on the employment stats .. LOL!

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 3:09 pm

zyconoclast:

Tesla must pay $137 million to a Black employee who sued for racial discrimination
On Wednesday, Judge William Orrick cut the award to $15 million.
Diaz testified that employees called him the N-word among other racial slurs. A Tesla supervisor called him the N-word “more than 30 times,” Diaz testified, according to court documents obtained by NPR.

Can I sue the WA/NT/Qld/NSW health departments for the multiple times I’ve been called an ‘effing white c…’?
That will be $60 million, ta!
Ka ching! The song of my peoples, I tells ya!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 3:14 pm

From “The Age.”

Thousands of new homes needed as ‘emergency measure’ for Indigenous communities
Cameron Gooley
By Cameron Gooley
April 19, 2022 — 5.00am

More than 8000 new homes must be built by the Commonwealth as an “emergency measure” to address severe overcrowding in First Nations communities, according to Indigenous advocacy groups.

Justice group Change the Record and housing group Everybody’s Home have urged the winner of next month’s election to urgently invest in the sector.

The groups’ election priority document said appropriate housing was key to improving health outcomes and preventing family violence in First Nations communities.

“As an emergency measure to address the overcrowding crisis, we call for an immediate investment over four years in a minimum of 8500 new co-designed, culturally appropriate, climate resilient properties across the continent,” it said.

“We also call for further funding to the states and territories to ensure existing public housing is retrofitted and properly maintained as the climate crisis worsens.”

According to the most recent Productivity Commission data from 2016, more than seven per cent of non-Indigenous people lived in overcrowded conditions. But the rate for Indigenous people was 21.1 per cent.

Governments around Australia have committed to reducing that figure to at least 12 per cent by 2031 under the historic National Agreement on Closing the Gap.

The only jurisdictions meeting that target are the ACT and Tasmania. However, the Northern Territory is by far the worst performer, with 61.6 per cent of Indigenous people there living in overcrowded housing.

“Co designed, culturally appropriate properties..” Perhaps if “First Nations” peoples took a little care of the houses they already had..

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 3:14 pm

Mother Lode:

Word is that Zimbabwe also has a bill of rights.

And the USSR, right up until it didn’t.

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
April 19, 2022 3:15 pm

Diaz testified that employees called him the N-word among other racial slurs. A Tesla supervisor called him the N-word “more than 30 times,” Diaz testified, according to court documents obtained by NPR.

Just a quick question. Were the other employees and the supervisor also black? Seems to be OK when they use it amongst themselves.

min
min
April 19, 2022 3:15 pm

I saw The Duke yesterday with Jim Broadbent and Helen Mirren funny , quirky, and sadness . I observed unresolved grief from a family death 12 years previously and when a friend asked what I thought that’s what I said the family fell apart from then. Rubbish she shouted it was guilt nothing to do with grief and would not accept that grieving people often suffer from guilt says me trained in grief counselling as well as diagnosing psychological problems . Any Cats seen it care to comment .
Another observation saw widows, children of a dead parent, losses from injuries in accidents whilst men, only in grief and loss after losing their jobs Many when the banks got rid of middle managers.

Vicki
April 19, 2022 3:15 pm

The pledge of$75 million to buy Ag land probably is an attempt to keep youngsters on the land, as conglomerates (especially with OS origins) have been buying up large aggregates for some time- for a very long time. But viable acreage involves enormous size of purchases & enormous sums of money.

This sounds like a token gesture which will fool no one in the bush. What they should consider is restricting the ability of conservation conglomerates to outbid farmers who want to work the land.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 3:17 pm

DoverBeach:

I agree, with caveats. I like the no HECS but I’d make the entry requirements more stringent. Unis should be about a half or a third of their current size.

Technical stuff only.
No humanities.
If they have a passion for ART, they can get together the funds to go to England, or the US, or Rwanda.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 3:18 pm

Apologies it’s after 8am and I’m sundowning as usual.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 3:19 pm

This sounds like a token gesture which will fool no one in the bush. What they should consider is restricting the ability of conservation conglomerates to outbid farmers who want to work the land.

I wouldn’t want to limit the price of what a retiring farmer can get.

Tom
Tom
April 19, 2022 3:22 pm

The single objective of the Democratic Party’s fake moral panic over waaaacism and Ukraine/Putin is to head off criticism in main street USA about rampant inflation caused by the DNC’s decision to pump trillions of dollars into the American money supply to pay for an explosion in government spending. Tucker Carlson Tonight has the numbers that show it has nothing to do with Putin or waaaacism, just home-grown fiscal recklessness and incompetence.

Winston Smith
April 19, 2022 3:24 pm

A Bill of Rights.

No Gov spying or accessing private info without permission and no sharing of any info.

So I can shoot down any council drones whilst sitting on the back porch guzzling tinnies?
Count me in!

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 3:25 pm

Our old mate Numbers is at Quadrant On-Line, the Spirit of Australia thread, saying that our problem is that e aren’t not voting for a John Curtin.

He doesn’t mention if he regards AnAl as a Curtin equivalent.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 3:27 pm

I never realised until today that Rise of Soywalker has a scene with African American POCs with front holes riding on an enemy (Imperial) Star Destroyer in outer space…with no spacesuits for themselves or their steeds.

Cool story bro. Needed more dragons.

What an abysmal move, I am glad I have never seen it.

Anyone defending it is on crack. I hope them the finest NY rock for their discerning dopamine receptors.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 3:28 pm

Bubbles

Students could pay their way, I know one federal politician who attained his degree this way. A certain standard was required to enroll.
Yes, a good system was destroyed.

Universities now see themselves as businesses, and numbers of students (“turnover”), not their abilities (standards) are seen as the key to commercial success.

calli
calli
April 19, 2022 3:29 pm

Yes, a good system was destroyed.

Of course. That was the intent.

You can’t march through an institution if everyone is gainfully employed/learning/has excellent job prospects.

You have to create dissatisfaction, ennui, unrealistic expectations.

Then, and only then, do you put on your hobnail boots and march. Preferably over the faces of class enemies.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 3:29 pm

Numbers. Conscription. Curtin.

LOL.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 3:29 pm

Winston

Is it because they want to be the ones who solved the population problem and cannot bear any other generation solving it? Or are they just megalomaniacs to whom life outside their own has no value?

Megalomaniacs.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 3:33 pm

saying that our problem is that e aren’t not voting for a John Curtin.

John Curtin? A man completely beholden to the Union movement, and completely unable to take any action regarding their appalling record of strikes and industrial anarchy?

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 3:34 pm

Winston.
How about forbidding all activities that can be served outside of public universities.

I think this will go a long way to pop the bubble.

Vicki
April 19, 2022 3:34 pm

min – re unresolved grief:

You are so right. Many many years ago my GP, who was also a close personal friend, was killed in a car accident. Her husband was driving & her much wanted toddler thankfully escaped injury in the back seat.

He asked me to deliver the eulogy, which I did, at her graveside, before hundreds of her grieving friends & patients. It was a harrowing ask – particularly as her little one inexplicably walked up to the coffin & said “Mum…mum”. I was numb throughout the Wake .

For years & years afterwards I would tear up at the thought of her. It seemed strange how very affected I remained. Finally, during a course in self awareness, I dissolved into terrible grief & when this was explored I understood that my responsibility on the day of her funeral prevented me from properly grieving with others. Thereafter I have only remembered her great affection.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2022 3:35 pm

Word is that Zimbabwe also has a bill of rights.

So did the Soviet Union.

Amusingly China is currently censoring their own national anthem because of its first line:

“Stand up! Those who refuse to be slaves!”

Coof prisoners in Shanghai are using it as a protest. Maybe we need to change the second line of ours, since it no longer works either.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
April 19, 2022 3:41 pm

SFW, from what you sampled the UAP is just working over the same ground as the Uniparty. New grants, new schemes, new exemptions, new rates, new announcements.
Home loan interest tax deductibility- same ground as the execrable, and infaltionary, First Homeowners Grant. Decide whether or not the family home is meant to be a tax haven, and either go all in or all out.
Capital distance tax concession- arse-about-face. Nowhere near a tax reduction or simplification.
Increased pension- how about the inflationary money-printing uniparty gov getting out of the command economy instead?
Reduced tax on second jobs- already debunked here.
Subs and bombs- fine. Uniparty are all there, it’s just a bluffing bid.
HECS- either deregulate, and get the gov the hell out of tertiary education, or you’re kidding yourself.
Increased gold card- again, get the gov out of the marketplace.
More supermarket logo rash. That’ll totally not be a compliance burden on producers, and win so many millions of patriotic shoppers’ hearts and minds who just don’t know how to look at labels yet eh?
In short- same uniparty, different colours. I wish it were not so, but change my mind.
Vote LDP.
Join LDP.

johanna
johanna
April 19, 2022 3:42 pm

Popped in to my local pharmacy today to get the sparingly doled out ‘pain relief’ now available to elderly people with chronic pain conditions, e.g. bones rubbing up against each other where joints used to be.

Anyway, I discovered that it is also a methadone dispensery. In short order, three people came up to swallow a poofteenth of methadone followed by a glass of orange juice.

Two men, one woman. Toothless, ancient looking, harmless. All met up outside, quite probably to discuss how to score.

One of their doses of methadone would kill my bone pain, but no, not allowed.

When my mother got breast cancer 60 years ago, it took a long time for her to die. The worst part was dickhead ‘doctors’ refusing to prescribe decent painkillers ‘in case she got addicted’ – to a woman dying of cancer.

Finally, the old man put her into a private nursing home, and she died peacefully.

Stupid gubbmint – faced with a problem, let’s ban everything.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 19, 2022 3:43 pm

A US judge has quashed the Biden administration’s mask mandate for planes, buses, taxis, trains and airports, causing confusion among travellers and paving the way for a legal showdown if the US government appeals to maintain the increasingly unpopular policy.

Florida District Court judge Kathryn Kimball Mizelle ruled that the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, the federal agency that determines the Biden administration’s Covid-19 rules, didn’t have the authority to ­require passengers to wear masks.

“Our system does not permit agencies to act unlawfully even in pursuit of desirable ends,” Judge Mizelle wrote, arguing a 1944 law giving Washington the power to make rules about “sanitation” did not extend to mandatory masking.

“Wearing a mask cleans nothing. At most, it traps virus droplets. But it neither ‘sanitises’ the person wearing the mask nor ‘sanitises’ the conveyance,” the Tampa judge wrote in her 59-page judgment.

and

“This is obviously a disappointing decision. The CDC continues recommending wearing a mask in public transit,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said on Monday (Tuesday AEST), stopping short of signalling an appeal.

The Transport Security Administration, which governs US airports, said it would no longer enforce the mask mandate until it had more clarity on the administration’s position.

Oz

Indolent
Indolent
April 19, 2022 3:43 pm

Inside a Shanghai mass quarantine center: No showers, lights on 24/7

People being treated like cattle. Don’t think for a second they wouldn’t do the same here if they thought they could get away with it.

Kneel
Kneel
April 19, 2022 3:46 pm

“If you’re going to have a reduced ‘second job tax’ why not a reduced overtime tax?
Or a reduced higher income tax?”

Raise tax free threshhold to 60-75% of average weekly earnings, indexed to that every year, then 10-20% flat income tax above that amount, no deductions. Same for business except that you can deduct wages/salaries that are taxable, and any business or individual that you pay for goods/services that has an ABN/ACN that you can document (so only pay tax on it once), and it’s on GP, not income, maybe 10% business and 20% personal.
Your tax return is a single page, and no-one is concerned about which tax agent knows the most dodgy ways to get you more back, as a business there are no tax benefits to leasing vs purchasing assets, or other dodgy ways to reduce your tax bill that don’t create more economic activity. As a business, you know EXACTLY how much you will need to pay when you get paid for the goods/services you supply, and can “put it away” for tax time, or pay it incrementally like GST.

If GovCo wants to “encourage” certain economic activities, they can subsidise them directly on a company by company (or person by person) basis with grants, not tax deductions – such grants being fully open and transparent as to who is getting how much and for what purpose.

Reasoning: no-one likes paying tax, everyone thinks they pay too much and that someone else is not paying their share. If you make it simple, straightforward and easy, everyone will know it’s fair and it’s not even worth trying some “bottom of the harbour” tax scheme (they won’t exist anyway!) Grants are better than tax deductions when the grants are transparently documented because they are entity specific and you don’t get people setting up dodgy crap that doesn’t actually do anything other than meet the rules to gain a tax deduction, so better targeted. And such targeting can also focus on startups/small businesses etc if that is deemed “better”, or any other way that improves the economy, as well as being on a year-by-year basis, so you can yank them whenever and whereever you need to.

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 19, 2022 3:48 pm

President Nick Reece 4 Life then?

Victoria should break away from the rest of Australia because it is constantly short changed by federal government funding, Melbourne’s deputy mayor claims.

Nicholas Reece, who was a senior advisor to former prime minister Julia Gilliard, said Victoria was ‘ripped off’ in this year’s federal budget.

He said it was time for Victorians to consider separating from the rest of the country for ‘our own best interests’.

Daily Mail, with Our Julia’s name misspelt at least twice.

JC
JC
April 19, 2022 3:51 pm

The lying Slapper then Abbott to his ever enduring embarrassment told us it would cost n0 more than $10 billion. Realists projected 30 billion.

Now this late term abortion.

Bill Shorten’s plan to crack down on lawyers and consultants “rorting” the NDIS will do little to stop the scheme hitting $60 billion a year by the end of the decade.
Rorting NDIS consultants a ‘rounding error’ in cost blowout

The biggest issue for the NDIS is that the number of people qualifying for the scheme is growing far faster than the population, says a Deloitte Access Economics consultant.

$60 billion a year!

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 3:53 pm

Continuing my cars of East Vic Park – today an Aston Martin SUV. I suspect even JC would not be seen in one. Just buy a Range Rover FFS.

sfw
sfw
April 19, 2022 3:54 pm

Wally, looked at the LDP website, not much in the way of policies I guess you like that.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 3:54 pm

Victoria should break away from the rest of Australia

OK.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 3:57 pm

Victoria should break away from the rest of Australia

Great idea. They’ve been one of the mendicant States for some time now.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 3:58 pm

Nicholas Reece, who was a senior advisor to former prime minister Julia Gilliard

That should be enough to disqualify anyone from public life. We need to borrow from the Ancient Greeks and reintroduce exile .

Tom
Tom
April 19, 2022 4:00 pm

Just buy a Range Rover FFS.

Humphrey, I suspect every low-rent, BMW-driving poser in Perth (and quite a few other places) would kill for an Aston Martin badge on his SUV — the ultimate look-at-moi wank.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 19, 2022 4:05 pm

A Bill of Rights? Before endorsing such, absorb the wisdom of James Allan whose many thoughts on this can probably be found in the archives of The Speccie.

https://www.spectator.com.au/author/james-allan/

For example,

https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/07/the-last-thing-we-need-is-a-bill-of-rights/

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
April 19, 2022 4:07 pm

SFW
Change my mind. I’m not into ad hom.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 4:09 pm

Two years of COVID bullshit and still shilling for the ethereal visage of A V Dicey to defend our common law rights in Parliament with Alf Deakin and Hank Parkes.

Prof. Allan is dreaming.

What he should do, is actually to try write a bill of rights. He has the knowledge, wisdom and intelligence to guide us through this important change.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 4:13 pm

What is the cost of administering HECS?

There is a possibility it might even lose money with the money collected. It seems absurd, but remember NSW Transport didn’t even know it had an inscrutable celestial cleaner sleeping in a closet at town hall for over a year.

Those Sydneysiders should be credited, keeping those trains sparkling clean and smelling like roses in lieu of Uncle Chang not doing his job.

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 4:17 pm

He said it was time for Victorians to consider separating from the rest of the country for ‘our own best interests’.

Hopefully they build the world’s greatest border wall as well.

Eisenhower would be marveled with self containing communism.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 4:20 pm

Tom – the level of wealth in Perth is on another level – even in East Vic Park. A friend returning from Sydney (a place not averse to ostentatious displays of wealth) is having problems dealing with it. Iron ore back around $150 a ton will do that.

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2022 4:20 pm

Oh oh I know.
Abolish HECs and create a higher tax rate for white collar employment.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 19, 2022 4:22 pm

Getting in first. First on the thread, anyway.

Ryan Campbell. Decent keeper/batsman.
Rod Marsh.
Shane Warne.

It hunts out cricketers.

Vicki
April 19, 2022 4:22 pm

I confess to being initially sucked into the mythology of the NDIS. Many years ago, when he had some sort of junior position Bill Shorten gave an impressive (yes!) speech to the Sydney Institute on the need for immediate redress of the despair of many carers of invalids and the variously disabled. He gave a moving account of the position of such family carers who had not had a holiday in decades & who despaired about the future of their loved ones when they died. I foolishly thought that the scheme he outlined would actually be a REAL insurance policy scheme underwritten by the government.
That it would in reality descend into unmonitored government largesse to a vast number of citizens with varying degrees of ability to care for themselves was far from what he described at that time.

Silly me. Trust Labor? Sure can.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 4:22 pm

Hopefully they build the world’s greatest border wall as well.

Raise the Murray!

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 4:25 pm

I’m more infaver of a strong Constitution restricting what governments can do.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 19, 2022 4:26 pm

Don’t worry, only another month or so to go of the media & politicians of the uniparty lying like fuck to us & the dumb arse voters giving them another term to fuck us over.
Happiness.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 19, 2022 4:30 pm

no-one likes paying tax, everyone thinks they pay too much and that someone else is not paying their share.

I liked paying tax in the 80’s early 90’s. Never earnt so much or paid so little in tax. The accountant was cheap, not like the grifters today. Every year the latest one we had sends us out a bill for just in case the taxman audits you for all those things you didn’t declare. The first time he did it I rang and asked if his will was up to date. No joke. We now ring the ATO for anything that needs clarifying and apart from the first time when they suggested we get an accountant wife asked if they didn’t know the current legislation. No problem since.

JC
JC
April 19, 2022 4:30 pm

Very insightful comment Ted. Which bananas did you pick today?

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 4:31 pm

I have no experience of the pre NDIS world. I cannot recall what test my OT said they applied to someone in my position but basically it was sufficient if you could get to/from the letterbox to get the daily mail. As usual, the number of service providers has expanded to meet the dollars available. As with anything associated with the Cth it is impenetrable without specialist advice.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 4:31 pm

Hopefully they build the world’s greatest border wall as well.

Use Sydney as infill.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
April 19, 2022 4:32 pm

bespokesays:
April 19, 2022 at 4:25 pm
I’m more infaver of a strong Constitution restricting what governments can do.

Agreed, think of what could be achieved if government wasn’t there to help, I mean get in the way.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
April 19, 2022 4:33 pm

Dot.

I think Prof Allan’s main objection is that a Bill of Rights will give unelected, activist Judges lots of opportunities for interpretations that will not be favourable to the people, no matter how cleverly the Bill may be written.

Moreover, I advocate that a country (we are no longer a nation) should only ever consider such a Bill provided there is a concomitant Bill of Responsibilities.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 19, 2022 4:38 pm

Head Prefect, I packed a travel pack of bananas for you in your travel pack in your hunt to get Putin.
If you want I will get your bananas packed for your trip to NYC, you will need them, either way hurry up & fuck off.
Don’t forget to do your vote for the uniparty before you go.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 4:39 pm

Bill of Responsibilities.

Just asking for trouble, no thanks.

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2022 4:40 pm

Never liked a solution that involves more legislation.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 4:43 pm

He said it was time for Victorians to consider separating from the rest of the country for ‘our own best interests’.

Go ahead…make my day.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 4:43 pm

“Co designed, culturally appropriate properties..” Perhaps if “First Nations” peoples took a little care of the houses they already had..

I happened to visit Groote Eyelandt in 1977 — a tour of the island showed many houses built for indigenous people — but on closer inspection the houses were shells with the timbers used to build fires – there were many dogs — a number were actually in the houses — it was an absolute disaster — I was told by the person driving us around that in many of the houses the sewer pipes were just sunk into the ground with no connections to sewerage so the sewage had nowhere to go — nice builders probably on government contracts — nothing ever improves for remote aboriginal communities just more violence and dysfunction — could be the left’s way to commit genocide while saying “we’re here to help”

Remember the Rudd government was going to spend $5.5 billion on housing for aboriginal people , half way through I recall there being only about 75 houses built; to say nothing of the $625 million Rudd thought bubble overseen by that great economic paragon Tanya Plibersek, where they were going to build smaller dwellings in cheaper areas housing scheme devised by former prime minister Kevin Rudd … these gains by building smaller dwellings in cheaper areas, (The National Rental Affordability Scheme) funny how that scheme was concentrated mostly in Tanya’s electorate providing cheap rental housing for Chinese students while developers made a killing.

The great mind of Kevni Rudd

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2022 4:46 pm

A Bill of Rights?

A Bill of Rights written today would be incomprehensible woke sludge.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 4:49 pm

With Infowars going tits up does anyone have alternate suppliers for colloidal silver or whatever that shit was?

JC
JC
April 19, 2022 4:51 pm

Really, has that maniac Alex Jones, gone bust?

rosie
rosie
April 19, 2022 4:54 pm
rosie
rosie
April 19, 2022 4:55 pm

Well more like it’s asset protection against the families whose children were murdered at Sandy Hook.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 4:56 pm

I have no experience of the pre NDIS world. I cannot recall what test my OT said they applied to someone in my position but basically it was sufficient if you could get to/from the letterbox to get the daily mail. As usual, the number of service providers has expanded to meet the dollars available. As with anything associated with the Cth it is impenetrable without specialist advice.

H B Bear — it’s become Rortville because it was designed and is administered by the bureaucracy — do you know there are 16,500 employed in the administration of the NDIS — not one of them provides direct care as in showering, changing, assisting with daily activities etc…

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 5:00 pm

With Infowars going tits up does anyone have alternate suppliers for colloidal silver or whatever that shit was?

A local chemist sells colloidal silver. Anything to make a buck.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 19, 2022 5:05 pm

Head Prefect the bananas need to be kept fresh, when are you off to hunt Putin down as you said?
Or was it more bullshit that you normally gob off about?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I agree with Nicholas Reece:

He said it was time for Victorians to consider separating from the rest of the country for ‘our own best interests’.

Make Australia’s day bloke, & be sure to take Tasmania with you.

Btw Nick, good luck with keeping the lights on, Australia is not an electricity exporting nation.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 5:11 pm

Hi Bundy.

On your own today?

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 5:12 pm

Whenever I venture to the local shopping “mall” I notice people in various stages of disability accompanied by usually uniformed folk who often appear to be migrants from Africa or the subcontinent. I assume this is a service paid for by NDIS. It’s great that they can get about, but the funny thing is a lot of the time they are also accompanied by someone who appears to be a family member.

Once I observed a uniformed fellow with a disabled chap in his company who appeared to be collecting an Uber Eats order for delivery. So this disabled chap’s “care”, at least when he was in the hands of this carer, consisted of being driven about by his carer while he moonlighted for Uber Eats.

Rortsville, all right.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
April 19, 2022 5:13 pm

If Victoria left the commonwealth it would save WA the trouble.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 5:16 pm

Rortsville, all right.

Oh Roger the stories I could tell

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 5:20 pm

Colloidal silver is legitimate an old treatment** but it isn’t a panacea and don’t turn blue.*

*It’s pretty funny reading articles trashing it. Not am essential mineral? So why are we getting gene therapy vaccines now?

**May have interactions with drugs, but these claims by shills aren’t referenced well. I can’t see why a beta lactam would bind to silver.

Very interesting.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0957-4484/16/9/082

Nanotechnology
Synergistic antibacterial effects of ?-lactam antibiotic combined with silver nanoparticles
Ping Li1,2, Juan Li2, Changzhu Wu1, Qingsheng Wu1 and Jian Li2

Published 28 July 2005 • IOP Publishing Ltd
Nanotechnology, Volume 16, Number 9
Citation Ping Li et al 2005 Nanotechnology 16 1912

Abstract
The bactericidal action of silver (0) nanoparticles and amoxicillin on Escherichia coli is studied, respectively. Increasing concentration of both amoxicillin (0–0.525 mg ml?1) and silver nanoparticles (0–40 µg ml?1) showed a higher antibacterial effect in Luria–Bertani (LB) medium. Escherichia coli cells have different bactericidal sensitivity to them. When amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles are combined, it results in greater bactericidal efficiency on Escherichia coli cells than when they were applied separately. Dynamic tests on bacterial growth indicated that exponential and stationary phases are greatly decreased and delayed in the synergistic effect of amoxicillin and silver nanoparticles. In addition, the effect induced by a preincubation with silver nanoparticles is examined. The results show that solutions with more silver nanoparticles have better antimicrobial effects. One hypothesized mechanism is proposed to explain this phenomenon.

Wow. The establishment really is full of shit.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 5:21 pm

Mak Siccarsays:
April 19, 2022 at 4:33 pm
Dot.

I think Prof Allan’s main objection is that a Bill of Rights will give unelected, activist Judges lots of opportunities for interpretations that will not be favourable to the people, no matter how cleverly the Bill may be written.

I vaguely recall a later article by Prof Allan in Quadrant, in which he said that he had changed his mind after the COVID disaster, and now favours a Bill of Rights, but probably not one that the polliemuppets would like.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 5:25 pm

Tinta

to say nothing of the $625 million Rudd thought bubble overseen by that great economic paragon Tanya Plibersek, where they were going to build smaller dwellings in cheaper areas housing scheme devised by former prime minister Kevin Rudd … these gains by building smaller dwellings in cheaper areas, (The National Rental Affordability Scheme) funny how that scheme was concentrated mostly in Tanya’s electorate providing cheap rental housing for Chinese students while developers made a killing.

That scheme funded a lot of student accommodation in Sydney and Canberra (and probably elsewhere). Not so sure that many Australian homeless benefited. Look for big unit blocks near inner city universities.

calli
calli
April 19, 2022 5:26 pm

It isn’t all horrible though. I have a friend who is employed as a “carer” for a few “clients”, but they have become almost family.

She picks them up and takes them shopping, makes sure their homes are ship shape and they have enough food and other essentials. Mostly mental/developmental disabilities or minor mobility issues. When we meet, it’s always an introduction and a few words – the community contact is so important for people who would otherwise be shut-ins. Naturally, they suffered terribly when the lockdowns happened.

She loves the work. At the non-bureaucratic pointy end.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 5:30 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
April 19, 2022 at 5:05 pm
I agree with Nicholas Reece:

He said it was time for Victorians to consider separating from the rest of the country for ‘our own best interests’.

Make Australia’s day bloke, & be sure to take Tasmania with you.

Btw Nick, good luck with keeping the lights on, Australia is not an electricity exporting nation

Knickerless Grease and Dan Xi Man would immediately head off to Beijing to cut a deal under Belt and Road.

I wonder would many Victorians away from Melbourne and its environs really go along with the idea. Reduce Vicco to Melbourne, Geelong and a few places near them, let the rest stay?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 5:32 pm

That scheme funded a lot of student accommodation in Sydney and Canberra (and probably elsewhere). Not so sure that many Australian homeless benefited. Look for big unit blocks near inner city universities.

Indeed it did Boambee John — that is exactly what was the outcome — and most in Labor electorates certainly in the seat of Sydney

calli
calli
April 19, 2022 5:35 pm

You don’t imagine politicians actually care about people with disabilities do you?

It’s all just another access point to buckets of public money to shore up support for their filthy hides. That the merest trickle makes it to someone who needs it is a miracle.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 19, 2022 5:37 pm

I was thinking, how would the union movement and Labor deal with a little piece of shit like Matt Kean?
A big hand on the shoulder and a walk around the back of the building for some constructive advice.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 5:38 pm

Plibbers went vewy quiet after that low income housing gig. Unsurprisingly.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 19, 2022 5:40 pm

Tinta

Indeed it did Boambee John — that is exactly what was the outcome — and most in Labor electorates certainly in the seat of Sydney

Also a lot near the ANU, in another Labor electorate.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 5:45 pm

Also a lot near the ANU, in another Labor electorate.

There’s always a pattern, always

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 19, 2022 5:46 pm

calli at 5:26 – I do 2 or 3 hours with a lovely Balinese woman on a Monday morning. While I am basically in supported accommodation it has been basically just walking for about an hour but now I am getting ready to go home it is more running around doing chores. The sort of thing you used to do without even thinking about it. When you are right at the coal front it makes a real difference.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 5:47 pm

Plibbers went vewy quiet after that low income housing gig. Unsurprisingly.

Though she did try the plausible deniability schtick. If she becomes ‘leader’ perhaps Jonathan Lea can ask her a question about affordable housing.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 5:51 pm

When we meet, it’s always an introduction and a few words – the community contact is so important for people who would otherwise be shut-ins. Naturally, they suffered terribly when the lockdowns happened.

The lockdowns and isolation are terrible for people whose lives are already narrowed by their disabilities. I often think of the intellectually disabled people in Victoria — how did they fare? were they chemically restrained for the duration? I wonder about that all the time knowing what i know.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 5:52 pm

I vaguely recall a later article by Prof Allan in Quadrant, in which he said that he had changed his mind after the COVID disaster, and now favours a Bill of Rights, but probably not one that the polliemuppets would like.

Yes, I think I’ve referenced this previously.

cohenite
April 19, 2022 6:01 pm

Jacinta Price defends Katherine Deves; that bald prick matt kean criticises her. That’s all you need to know about Katherine Deves.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 19, 2022 6:04 pm

I happened to visit Groote Eyelandt in 1977 — a tour of the island showed many houses built for indigenous people

I “know a bloke wot knows a bloke” who builds houses in some of those communities. He says the lurk practiced by some of the “big men” is to have two houses – one in your “whitefella ” name, the other in your “tribal” name. You live in one, while the other is repaired… rinse and repeat. He photographs each house as it’s handed over…

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 6:06 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
April 19, 2022 at 6:04 pm

Reparations anyone?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
April 19, 2022 6:07 pm

Btw Nick, good luck with keeping the lights on, Australia is not an electricity exporting nation.

That might be a benefit of the idea.
Victoria would have to ratchet up the brown coal fired turbines.
Cheap electricity could well become a new retro fad.
It might become feasible for a business to operate in Victoria.

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 6:07 pm

Spike-Only Vaccine a Colossal Blunder: Michigan State University Shows SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine Escape is Due to Vaccination
Earlier analyses had shown correlation of new COVID-19 cases with vaccine uptake, indicating vaccine escape. Now that causality is confirmed, the question is: Will policy makers stop making it worse?

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 6:09 pm

Ukraine: Russia begins new eastern offensive | DW News
Russia appears to have started its anticipated push in the east of the country, according to Ukraine’s top security official. Earlier, Ukraine’s armed forces command said Russia’s main efforts were focused on establishing complete control of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, with military action also intensifying in Kharkiv.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
April 19, 2022 6:14 pm

Russia’s main efforts were focused on establishing complete control of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions

Can I take ‘No more territorial demands’ for a thousand?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
April 19, 2022 6:15 pm

Is Albo is about to be eaten alive by worms?

‘To err is human’: Labor’s Bill Shorten compares Anthony Albanese’s gaffes on the campaign trail to Jesus’ crucifixion (19 Apr)

Bill Shorten has compared Labor leader Anthony Albanese’s mistakes on the campaign trail to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.

Or is he the other Herod? Maybe he should get Plibs to ask Albo for Morrison’s head on a platter. I’ve never seen her dance though.

Runnybum
Runnybum
April 19, 2022 6:17 pm

Hey Beyonce, still in the spelling bee comp?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 6:26 pm

I can’t help but notice that Elbow speaks through gritted teeth, he seems incapable speaking naturally – all the practice seems to have made it worse -I’m reminded of a lip-curled snarling corgi

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 6:32 pm

I can’t help but notice that Elbow speaks through gritted teeth…

Fighting Tories will do that to you.

calli
calli
April 19, 2022 6:34 pm

Fighting Tories will do that to you.

And biting them.

Thick hides.

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 6:35 pm
Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 6:36 pm

And biting them.

Thick hides.

I’m a Red Tory.

That would confuse Elbow no end.

JC
JC
April 19, 2022 6:40 pm

cohenite says:
April 19, 2022 at 6:01 pm

Jacinta Price defends Katherine Deves; that bald prick matt kean criticises her. That’s all you need to know about Katherine Deves.

Cronkite, you were singing Kean’s praises recently. Talk about a 180.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 6:43 pm

That would confuse Elbow no end.

he’s had a excellent head start

cohenite
April 19, 2022 6:46 pm

Cronkite, you were singing Kean’s praises recently. Talk about a 180.

Bullshit.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 6:48 pm

Cronkite, you were singing Kean’s praises recently. Talk about a 180.

Bullshit.

thought so

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 19, 2022 6:49 pm

The only person I can imagine singing Keans praises would be Bandt.

Certainly not Cohenite.

bespoke
bespoke
April 19, 2022 6:52 pm

now I am getting ready to go home it is more running around doing chores. 

Really good news, Bear

JC
JC
April 19, 2022 6:52 pm

Bullshit

I know. I was just kidding. Calm down please.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 6:52 pm

The only person I can imagine singing Keans praises would be Bandt.

and his girlfriend Eleni Petinos recently elevated to cabinet, I wonder why?

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 6:54 pm

ELBOW I AM OVERJOYED
TO MEET YOU FACE TO FACE…

You’ve been leaving a lot of spittle
All around the place

Performing gaffes and
Raising zombie policies

Now I understand you’re god?
At least that’s what Tit’s said!

Zipster
Zipster
April 19, 2022 6:56 pm
JC
JC
April 19, 2022 6:58 pm

jeez

I was just kidding, folks. Wasn’t it fucking obvious because the last person on this site praising that bald prick would be Cronkite (but after me). There’s something very wrong about the bald idiot who’s also a climate nancy.

Eyrie
Eyrie
April 19, 2022 6:58 pm

No need to separate Victoria from Australia. Just Melbourne and suburbs.
Country Victoria is lovely.

cohenite
April 19, 2022 6:58 pm

Ok. I just think of those special times we had together and I can’t stay mad at you.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
April 19, 2022 7:01 pm

Ok. I just think of those special times we had together and I can’t stay mad at you.

??????

Top Ender
Top Ender
April 19, 2022 7:03 pm

On remote housing….

Australia can have as much of this disaster of a policy area as it want to pay for. Billions upon billions, forever.

Know a bloke who has spent a lot of time building in such places. It’s a no-win situation. They go in and build a house. It gets tenanted by a lot of the locals. As they practise a basic communism based on relationships the tenants can’t refuse to take in relatives. This means overcrowding. Alcohol and drugs make matters worse with fighting. Place gets wrecked.

Governments get criticised for wrecked housing. Eventually they get pulled down and more put up.

My mate once suggested a much stronger house – basically a slab with steel girders and plug and play walls. Just replace the walls when they get wrecked. This was dismissed as being “sub-standard”.

Enjoy!

Dot
Dot
April 19, 2022 7:03 pm

Very interesting. Yes John H has warned about not having multiple papers confirming a result, but the idea that “colloidal silver for COVID was debunked!” really is a trash tier Pavlovian programmatic response.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24524838/

Inhibitory effect of silver nanomaterials on transmissible virus-induced host cell infections

Xiaonan Lv et al. Biomaterials. 2014 Apr.

Abstract
Coronaviruses belong to the family Coronaviridae, which primarily cause infection of the upper respiratory and gastrointestinal tract of hosts. Transmissible gastroenteritis virus (TGEV) is an economically significant coronavirus that can cause severe diarrhea in pigs. Silver nanomaterials (Ag NMs) have attracted great interests in recent years due to their excellent anti-microorganism properties. Herein, four representative Ag NMs including spherical Ag nanoparticles (Ag NPs, NM-300), two kinds of silver nanowires (XFJ011) and silver colloids (XFJ04) were selected to study their inhibitory effect on TGEV-induced host cell infection in vitro. Ag NPs were uniformly distributed, with particle sizes less than 20 nm by characterization of environmental scanning electron microscope and transmission electron microscope. Two types of silver nanowires were 60 nm and 400 nm in diameter, respectively. The average diameter of the silver colloids was approximately 10 nm. TGEV infection induced the occurring of apoptosis in swine testicle (ST) cells, down-regulated the expression of Bcl-2, up-regulated the expression of Bax, altered mitochondrial membrane potential, activated p38 MAPK signal pathway, and increased expression of p53 as evidenced by immunofluorescence assays, real-time PCR, flow cytometry and Western blot. Under non-toxic concentrations, Ag NPs and silver nanowires significantly diminished the infectivity of TGEV in ST cells. Moreover, further results showed that Ag NPs and silver nanowires decreased the number of apoptotic cells induced by TGEV through regulating p38/mitochondria-caspase-3 signaling pathway. Our data indicate that Ag NMs are effective in prevention of TGEV-mediated cell infection as a virucidal agent or as an inhibitor of viral entry and the present findings may provide new insights into antiviral therapy of coronaviruses.

Roger
Roger
April 19, 2022 7:07 pm

No need to separate Victoria from Australia. Just Melbourne and suburbs.
Country Victoria is lovely.

It is indeed; but it’s also honeycombed with Melburnian hobby farmers.

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