Open Thread – Tues 3 May 2022


The Raising of Lazarus, Jean-Baptiste Jouvenet, 1701

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flyingduk
flyingduk
May 5, 2022 10:49 am

The Federal Reserve raised interest rates by 0.5 of a percentage point – the biggest rise in 22 years

*there’s your problem!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 5, 2022 10:51 am

Hillary said the dress embellishment “also reflected Joseph’s interest in what were called ‘friendship quilts’ that women used to embroider sayings or phrases or the names of family or friends.”

Wouldn’t that be celebrating the restriction of pursuits white male oppressors confined women to?

Women in those days wanted nothing more than to have abortions, be in politics, be doctors, fly aeroplanes, be judges and stuff – but they were thwarted by patriarchy and given laughable pastimes that men could mock and laugh at.

Hillary is far more cruel and happy to use women than almost any man is.

Some men will be worse in their treatment of women. But they will be democrats. Not to mention her husband.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 5, 2022 10:52 am

Net zero policies split over hydrogen, batteries

I’m split over which is stupider: hydrogen, batteries or net zero. Maybe stupid, stupider, stupidest.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 10:52 am

‘No restrictions on unvaccinated’ decrees India’s Supreme Court, orders gov’t to make side effect data public

The Supreme Court on Monday said that no person can be forced to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and directed the Central government to make public adverse effects of vaccination.

A bench of Justices L Nageswara Rao and BR Gavai said bodily autonomy and integrity are protected under Article 21 of the Constitution. The top court said the current COVID-19 vaccine policy cannot be said to be manifestly arbitrary and unreasonable.

“Till numbers are low, we suggest that relevant orders are followed and no restriction is imposed on unvaccinated individuals on access to public areas or recall the same if already not done,” the bench said.

Regarding segregation of vaccine trial data, subject to privacy of individuals, all trials conducted and to be subsequently conducted, all data must be made available to the public without further delay, it said.

“Regarding segregation of vaccine trial data, subject to privacy of individuals, all trials conducted and to be subsequently conducted, all data must be made available to the public without further delay,” the court said.

The apex court also directed the Union of India to publish reports on adverse events of vaccines from the public and doctors on a publicly accessible system without compromising the data of individuals.

The court delivered the judgement on a plea filed by Jacob Puliyel seeking directions for disclosure of data on clinical trials of COVID-19 vaccines and post-jab cases.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 5, 2022 10:53 am

Vote Compass asked how much voters would be prepared to spend each year to help prevent climate change.

Why would anyone think an ABC Club app represents the real world.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
May 5, 2022 10:57 am

Port Augusta teacher Ammy Singleton accused of grooming boy for sex … !

Did it say she was a relief teacher?

Sounds like she might have just been doing her job then.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 5, 2022 10:57 am

Wheel falling off?

Labor leader Anthony Albanese has walked out of a disastrous press conference in which he was apparently unable to recall the details of his NDIS policy until he was handed a cheat-sheet by an adviser.

The trainwreck showing came just hours after Mr Albanese angrily told a TV interviewer it was “absurd” to suggest he’s not across the details of his job and handballs tough questions to his shadow ministers.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 5, 2022 10:57 am

In All the Buzzwords news:

‘Super-hybrid’ green hydrogen and energy project proposed for Miriam Vale near Gladstone

A $2 billion pumped hydro and green hydrogen facility, dubbed a “super-hybrid” project, has been proposed for Gladstone in central Queensland.

“The site that we’ve chosen has its own natural [water] catchment. We’ve modelled the 50-year rainfall and we know that, on average, we’ll be able to fill the reservoirs from the natural catchments,” Mr Myer said.

“No year is average … as we have dry years. So we’re looking to be able to top up using desalinated water.

“So we will have a combination of natural catchment and desalinated water able to provide the water for pumped hydro and for electrolysis, which is so important.”

So, desalinated water is pumped uphill, to run back down to make hydrogen. A sort of Zen energy balance.

And it’s all about the coding:

Mr Myer said the project was only made possible because of specialised software that allowed the different energy sources to come together in an optimal way.

With strong political and community backing:

Gladstone Regional Council acting mayor Kahn Goodluck said the proposal was a “strong vote of confidence in the Gladstone region”.

“I was talking to a worker at the Gladstone Power Station just last week and he was telling me he doesn’t like working with coal. He doesn’t like going home with coal stuck up his nose, covered in soot from head to toe,” Mr Goodluck said.

Done deal, then.
Goodluck with that.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 10:57 am

Cicero on the collapse of empires.

“The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier its laws are.” ? Marcus Tullius Cicero

Roger
Roger
May 5, 2022 10:59 am

Why would anyone think an ABC Club app represents the real world.

Great source for agitprop.

Just about every day ABC AM features a story that starts off with something from Vote Compass, which then gets repeated all day.

Yesterday I think it was “most voters support the right of aboriginals to refuse miners access to land held by native title.” This is apparently essential for “reconciliation”, listeners were advised Not mentioned was that no other class of Australian citizens has that right.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 5, 2022 10:59 am

Did it say she was a relief teacher?

Sounds like she might have just been doing her job then.

This is missing something.

Ah! There it is…

#OyVey

Roger
Roger
May 5, 2022 11:01 am

The trainwreck showing came just hours after Mr Albanese angrily told a TV interviewer it was “absurd” to suggest he’s not across the details of his job and handballs tough questions to his shadow ministers.

Albo mugged by Ally.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 5, 2022 11:03 am

Keep it together Albo only two more weeks. Then you have happy ending.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 5, 2022 11:07 am

Remember when it was supposed to be legal, safe and rare?

The problem with rare was responsibility.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 11:07 am

NATO vehicles carrying arms in Ukraine will be considered ‘legitimate target’ – Russian Defense Minister

Russian Defense Minister Shoigu pointed out that the United States and its allies are continuing to supply weapons to Ukraine.

On May 4, while the European Union (EU) continues to study new sanctions against Russia, the Kremlin confirmed that it will continue its special military operation in Ukraine. Below are the main developments of this conflict as they happen.

Russia will target North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) vehicles transporting weapons in Ukraine. On Wednesday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that “any transport from the Atlantic Alliance that arrives in the country with weapons or means for the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be seen by us as a legitimate target.”

He made the remarks at a meeting with Russia’s top defense officials, noting the United States and its allies are continuing to supply weapons to Ukraine. Russian troops together with the forces of Lugansk and Donetsk are controlling more areas of Donbass, and they will continue to fulfill their tasks, Shoigu stressed.

Russia’s “doomsday plane” appears in V-day parade rehearsal

A Russian Il-80 aircraft, which will serve as a strategic command post in the “doomsday” of a nuclear war, participated in a rehearsal of the upcoming Victory Day parade on Wednesday.

Together with strategic bombers and fighters, the Il-80 escorted by two MiG-29 jets flew over Moscow. Eight MiG-29SMT aircraft flew past the Red Square in a Z-shaped formation in support of the Russian troops participating in the military operation in Ukraine.

Russia holds military parades on May 9 to commemorate the Soviet Union’s victory in the Great Patriotic War against Nazi Germany. About 11,000 people, 131 types of weapons and military equipment as well as 77 aircraft will participate in the main parade on the Red Square this year marking the 77th anniversary of the victory.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 11:12 am

Turkey: NATO’s Pro-Putin Ally

The… poll also indicated that 48% of the Turkish public think that the U.S. and NATO are responsible for the situation in Ukraine. Turks also think that Russia is their country’s third most important partner.

When they are not reading pro-Erdo?an newspapers, Turks are watching pro-Erdo?an television channels featuring commentators who blame the war on Washington and NATO’s eastward expansion.

Turkey… dismissed the idea of send its S-400 missiles to Ukraine to help Kyiv resist Russian troops.

This is how NATO ally Turkey is “fighting” the Western battle against Russian aggression. In return, the Biden administration seems to be rewarding Erdo?an.

The Biden administration, evidently, at the behest of Turkey, has tried to kill the EastMed gas pipeline project, which could supply gas from Cyprus and Israel, via Greece, to Europe.

Worse, the US State Department, in a March 17 letter to Congress, said that a potential sale of F-16 fighter jets to Turkey would be “in line with U.S. national security interests” and would also “serve NATO’s long-term unity.”

Greece, which recently has experienced countless illegal Turkish overflights, not to mention the last few years, must be thrilled.

Struth
May 5, 2022 11:16 am

You got some big hang ups KD.

YES, you fucking idiot.

Ooooh. The Dark ‘N’ Stormies appear to have an early appearance today.

Go on then. Explain your plan for The People’s Revolution. I am aware this is a little slice of yesteryear when you first started spouting this, and you never answered the questions asked then so I’ll do it again now:

Only answered thousands of times.

1. Who’s in charge of the uprising?

No one….but think about your terminology…”uprising”
You’re a little compliant Kunt-stable underneath aren’t you?
You see disobeying criminals as another Eureka stockade and somebody wants to be Peter Lalor, in your warped mind………..the idea somebody would disobey orders from criminals is beyond Vicplod comprehension.

Sad.

Disobeying tyrants requires no leader, just decency and civic duty amongst the citizens.

2. What, specifically, are the goals?

Freedom as it was at least prior to the coup d’etat…….obviously……..not rocket science to those with an IQ above Vicplod entrance exams standards.

3. What’s the replacement framework?

Replace criminals in government with good, patriotic Australians.

4. Explain a) who will run the New World, b) what the rules will be, c) how they will be enforced, and most importantly d) who, exactly will deliver the sentencing for transgressions against the incoming Carny Code.

……. I’ll type slowly,…… there’s no new world being chased, that’s being down by those that are at war with us.
All any of us should want is our freedoms and our nation back.

You have to have a plan. If you don’t have a plan for this sort of thing – well, you’ll just sound like a lazy couch-dweller wanting everyone else to do the work while you sail in over the top.

The plan I’ve had all along is no plan whatsoever.
A plan is not needed.
Decency and personal responsibility is all that is required.

I started out by promoting ways in which we can all disobey the tyrants, as I honestly expected we’d all want to do, (I was fucking wrong about that) as Australians.
And that involved, at the start doing the most peaceful and easy things to do…..disobey.
It required people do nothing except keep doing what they always did.
Like going to cenotaphs on Anzac day.
The disappointing thing is in having to promote this when nothing should have needed to be said.
It should have been a given as to that is what we would all want to do.

You have some sort of hang up about people who do things, or want to do things.

Here’s my political ambitions.

To be able to go on with life without thinking about government and it’s various intrusions into life for a month at a time, at least.

You need to get over your fear of activism.

Especially when the activism at the start was…disobey illegal dictates from criminals.
In other words, do nothing different.
No activism, just non compliance.
Something you, KD, Vicplodder extrordinaire, were horrified at even suggesting.
That’s why you are forever a POS in my books.
Disgusting.
Disgusting compliance brainwashed into you that sees all non compliance as a revolution, as an uprising.
You’re one confused and brainwashed banana.
Maybe if you had been disobedient at the start, you might not have had to be jabbed.

And the uncomfortable facts remain that if all Australia had taken the right approach at the start, like a few million did, but not enough, this would be over by now and we wouldn’t be facing the oncoming destruction via the typical Socialist printing of money to create the human misery needed to bring on an actual social credit accepting dystopia.
But some feared getting a fine.
Oddly, in doing so, they get the true loss of wealth coming.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 11:16 am

The Poison Frog Strategy

Preventing a Chinese Fait Accompli Against Taiwanese Islands

A fascinating read

miltonf
miltonf
May 5, 2022 11:19 am

Kate Chaney for Curtin eh? Any relation to Fred Chaney?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 11:21 am

All hands to the tax/middle class welfare churns!

You breed them, you feed them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 11:22 am

Kate Chaney for Curtin eh? Any relation to Fred Chaney?

His niece – her father is Michael Chaney, CEO of Wesfarmers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 11:22 am

Struthsays:

May 5, 2022 at 10:19 am

So – stand and fight and if necessary fall, right?

YES, you fucking idiot.

First peacefully by resisting submission , by disobeying, but once all options are exhausted what’s left?

After you, champ.
Call me when you have fixed the bayonet and stormed the opposition* trenches.
Until then I will regard you as just another dissatisfied, middle-aged “coulda been a contender” shouting at the sky.

* The opposition = nearly everyone.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 11:23 am

Supreme Court Abortion Leak is the Job for Biden’s Ministry of Truth

By John Kass

With the November elections fast approaching, the Democratic Party was in hysterics, panicking over they feared would be wave election, a massive mid-term butt kicking in payment for inflation, crime, the open border and everything else they’ve done to the American people.

They screamed about insurrections wherever they could imagine them, under your neighbors’ bed, among parents who don’t want their kindergarteners indoctrinated on gender identification, among those smeared as domestic terrorists for daring to oppose racist Critical Race Theories in government schools. They piled dry wood around the stakes, like witch burners of the Middle Ages, and their media allies drowned out the heretics.

But that wasn’t helping all that much. The American public wasn’t all that interested in burning millions at the stake for the alleged “insurrection” on Jan. 6, especially when Democrats were so forgiving about the Black Lives Matter riots when the cities burned, and downtowns ruined and businesses were destroyed.

Something else was required. The leak of a Supreme Court draft opinion ending Roe v Wade was that shiny weapon they wanted. If enacted, the leaked draft would not end abortion in all 50 states. All it would do is return the choice to the people. But the Democrats reached for the Supreme Court leak as their weapon. They screamed and held the club in both hands.

A real insurrection has plopped into their laps. Not an imagined one. A real one involving real force and the mob hoping to intimidate the Supreme Court.

The Democrats say they’re angry, at least publicly so, between fundraising calls and getting themselves on TV to say democracy is over. But do the Democrats really want to get to the bottom of this leak thing? I don’t think so. None of them are condemning the leaker.

So I’m wondering: Isn’t this really a job for Nina Jankowicz, the ridiculous party hack and self-described “Mary Poppins of Disinformation” who runs President Biden’s Ministry of Truth?

Who else could do the job? No one else, but Nina. C’mon Joe. Give Nina a chance.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 11:24 am

H B Bearsays:

May 5, 2022 at 10:26 am

When you consider the amount of quackery medicine has attracted over history you can excuse them for clinging overly tightly to the “scientific method” or what remains of it.

Correct.

Jorge
Jorge
May 5, 2022 11:25 am

Late night interview on BBC’s Hard Talk with Bill Browder who reckons at >200 bill Putin is the richest person in the world. Says Elon Musk agrees.

Some Cats will know this story but I didn’t.

Browder hired Sergei Magnitsky as his tax lawyer back in 2012 to investigate fraud by Russian tax officials. Putin had him imprisoned for 358 days during which he was tortured, refused medical treatment and died.

Since then Browder (who is no angel) has conducted a crusade which saw the various Magnitsky Acts passed in US and Europe under which Russian officials are sanctioned. Browder gave a brief rundown on how they are extending these to cover extended family. He mentioned Sergei Lavrov’s step daughter living in London as a recent victim and claimed the sanctions were really starting to inconvenience many important and wealthy people.

His hatred of Putin was unmistakeable. Called him absolutely evil.

What was worrying, I found, was the disregard for Russian nukes. You got the feeling at the end of it all that the big one is coming. And for what ? A convoluted business dispute. Ukraine ? Who gives a shit if the price for caring is millions of deaths. We’re all reimagining Churchill and the price of appeasement etc. Total bullshit.

Roger
Roger
May 5, 2022 11:28 am

Kate Chaney for Curtin eh? Any relation to Fred Chaney?

His niece – her father is Michael Chaney, CEO of Wesfarmers.

Our elite is becoming an endogamous caste.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 11:29 am

Regarding the live sheep export trade –

Alannah Joan Geraldine Grogpickle Cecilia MacTiernan, Western Australian Minister for Agriculture and Food is telling farmers they are flogging a dead horse, move on. Way to go in representing the voters….

Struth
May 5, 2022 11:35 am

After you, champ.

Well, of course.

Call me when you have fixed the bayonet and stormed the opposition* trenches.
Until then I will regard you as just another dissatisfied, middle-aged “coulda been a contender” shouting at the sky.

Emotional crap from a coward.
A true coward.

Disobeying government is not attaching a fucking bayonet and storming any trenches, petal, it may seem scary to you, but it’s nowhere near it.

Reminding men that they should at least be doing what women are doing in their thousands, may not be well recieved by fucktard shit stains like you Slip lane, but that’s expected.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 11:36 am

Again, the H. pylori discovery is an illustrative case study; millions of people were misdiagnosed, told their condition was caused by stress and spicy foods and prescribed medications which merely masked the symptoms but left the cause of their condition untreated.

Roger, I think what that story tells us is:-
1. For a long time, the gut wasn’t regarded as a sexy branch of medicine to study, and the application of talent and funding reflected this. It was regarded as mere plumbing, but we are only now finding out what a complex mechanism it is;
2. Sure, they were going with conventional wisdom, and probably educated guesswork, but it wasn’t malicious. But when the two guys in Perth did their research, it wasn’t buried and discredited. It was embraced by the profession as the breakthrough it was.

JMH
JMH
May 5, 2022 11:38 am

How’s Barry these days, KD? Please do not reply that he’s been called up to Primate Heaven. I’d be devastated!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 11:39 am

You live & learn a new word every day

When Nina Met Joey

When it comes to picking a disinformation boss, don’t discount the possibility of poontronage.

Nina Jankowicz is a wannabe chanteuse who croons “I want to be rich, famous and powerful, step on all my enemies and never do a thing,” on YouTube. That tune, David Friedman’s “My Simple Christmas Wish,” asks “who do I have to fake?” to get rich, famous, and powerful. In one rendition, Jankowicz changed that lyric to “who do I have to fuck” to get rich and powerful.

The most likely candidate is the “the Big Guy” referenced in the Hunter Biden laptop. Aside from his plagiarism, Joe Biden has a record as a hands-on guy with a nose for the ladies. As Bill Clinton confirmed, the White House is an ideal place for the most powerful man in the world to get some action with Monica Lewinsky, the 21-year-old intern who gave Bill the benefit of hindsight.

Joe’s second-in-command, Kamala Harris, owes her start to poontronage from Democrat queenmaker Willie Brown, a married man 30 years her senior. Brown set up his steady girlfriend in lucrative sinecures and backed her runs for district attorney of San Francisco, state attorney general, the U.S. Senate, and now vice president. As it turned out, a little poontronage went a long way.

Biden has openly touted voter fraud, but the Delaware Democrat does have a devious side.

As Hunter Biden’s laptop reveals, in emails to his son, Joe Biden used the pseudonym “Peter Henderson,” which has a history of sorts.

In several Tom Clancy novels, including The Hunt for Red October, Peter Henderson is the name of a Soviet spy embedded in the U.S. government. Joe Biden started using the pseudonym in October 2016, to forward a YouTube video to Hunter. The National Pulse first picked up on the ruse in October 2020.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 5, 2022 11:40 am

Don’t underestimate Perth. It’s not all Basil Zempilas and Bondy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 11:40 am

Dr F earlier.

So, desalinated water is pumped uphill, to run back down to make hydrogen. A sort of Zen energy balance.

The phrase “elegant in it’s simplicity” does not spring to mind.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 5, 2022 11:45 am

Alannah Joan Geraldine Grogpickle Cecilia MacTiernan

The WA Liars have form treating farmers like shit but this is a new low.

Roger
Roger
May 5, 2022 11:45 am

But when the two guys in Perth did their research, it wasn’t buried and discredited. It was embraced by the profession as the breakthrough it was.

It actually took a while for the recognition to happen, and they were professionally ostracised in the meantime.

This is actually how science (mis)functions most of the time. A theory is postulated and adopted because it seems to fit the data best; data unexplained bythe theory is excluded or its significance minimised. Eventually, though, the unexplained data builds up and a new theory is proposed which better explains it, leading the reigning theory to collapse.

Medicine is no different to any other science in this regard and there are many other examples beside the H. pylori story.

The classic study is by Thomas Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 11:45 am

Dems Make Stunning Admission About Who Can Actually Get An Abortion

Democrats made an admission about what type of people can actually get abortions in the wake of a leaked Supreme Court draft opinion showing justices could potentially overturn Roe v. Wade.

After many liberals pushed for gender-neutral terms surrounding pregnancy and abortion such as “birthing people” instead of “woman,” prominent Democrats made statements appearing to suggest only women can get pregnant and have abortions.

President Joe Biden characterized abortion as a women’s rights issue in a Tuesday statement which emphasized women’s reproductive freedom.

“I believe that a woman’s right to choose is fundamental,” he said. “[I]f the Court does overturn Roe, it will fall on our nation’s elected officials at all levels of government to protect a woman’s right to choose.”

Hillary Clinton also painted abortion as a women’s issue.

But neither Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton are Biologists – How can they say who a Women is?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 11:48 am

H B Bearsays:

May 5, 2022 at 11:40 am

Don’t underestimate Perth. It’s not all Basil Zempilas and Bondy.

Yes.
It’s Chris Mainwaring, Laurie Connell, Ben Cousins, Brian Burke and Daniel Kerr as well.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 11:50 am

It actually took a while for the recognition to happen, and they were professionally ostracised in the meantime.

Never underestimate the power of Big Mylanta and Big Quick-Eze.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 5, 2022 11:53 am

Well OK. Be a glass half full guy. Don’t forget Malcolm Day.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 11:56 am

The WA Liars have form treating farmers like shit but this is a new low.

MacTiernan has the habit of treating West Australian farmers as though they were a gang of naughty schoolchildren. It hasn’t always gone down well…

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 5, 2022 12:02 pm

Thanks zk2a so we have a tink, a suspender belt and a Chaney.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 5, 2022 12:03 pm

Albo needs a 2nd wave of Covid before May 21.

C.L.
C.L.
May 5, 2022 12:04 pm

Strange how after every evac from the steelworks in Ukraine, it’s announced that not ALL of the civilians could leave.

Old bloke
Old bloke
May 5, 2022 12:07 pm

Dr Faustus says:
May 5, 2022 at 10:57 am

So, desalinated water is pumped uphill, to run back down to make hydrogen. A sort of Zen energy balance.

There’s no “balance” in this process, it’s a total loss. Energy is expended in the desalination process, in the pumping the water uphill process, and in the electrolysis process.

These energy losses are to produce a low energy fuel, hydrogen, which doesn’t have the inherit energy properties found in readily available petroleum products.

rickw
rickw
May 5, 2022 12:09 pm

The Supreme Court on Monday said that no person can be forced to get vaccinated against COVID-19 and directed the Central government to make public adverse effects of vaccination.

Justice in a Third World Shit Hole.

Australia, not so much.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 5, 2022 12:12 pm

I suppose if you hate the productive middle and working classes, the green movement is for you. Bogans shouldn’t have nice things eh

Helen
Helen
May 5, 2022 12:16 pm

Good grief, dont know what happened to the link, there

Link

duncanm
duncanm
May 5, 2022 12:19 pm

Vote Compass

Vote early, vote often.

I seem to be somewhat to the right of Genghis Khan economically, and more socially conservative than Mary Whitehouse.

I think they had to expand the scales.

Zipster
Zipster
May 5, 2022 12:20 pm
Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 12:22 pm

Re…..live sheep exports. These are govt figures. In 2020:

777,798 sheep were exported by sea. Of these, 0.224% died during the voyages. This equates to 1742 sheep died during all voyages in 2020.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 12:22 pm

Defence Minister Peter Dutton will go head to head with his Labor counterpart Brendan O’Connor at the National Press Club at 12.30pm

Somehow, I think the smart money will be on Dutton.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 5, 2022 12:23 pm

“I believe that a woman’s right to choose is fundamental,”

Why does the Father not have any say. If she keeps it you can guarantee the bloke has to cough up. Why can’t the bloke demand an abortion. I know personally I never could. A woman I know lost a child very early in pregnancy and even though she didn’t want to be pregnant felt the loss gravely. Pregnant again 3 months later, her son got married last year. Shame we couldn’t go to the wedding, thanks McClown.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 12:24 pm

Re live animal exports…..8400 goats exported by plane in 2020…1…one….died.

duncanm
duncanm
May 5, 2022 12:24 pm

Speaking of small scale energy projects that make sense.

Why have I only now found out about our long running Eromanga oil refinery which sources local crude and pumps out the cleanest diesel available for the local mines?

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 12:27 pm

Re live exports… in 2020 , 33,683 sheep were exported by air. Of these, three died during the flights….all govt figures.

Dot
Dot
May 5, 2022 12:27 pm

Perth Tradersays:
May 5, 2022 at 12:24 pm
Re live animal exports…..8400 goats exported by plane in 2020…1…one….died.

Good riddance, it was probably an anti vaxxer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 12:30 pm

Anthony Albanese has been unable to outline his party’s own “six point plan” for the NDIS in another campaign stumble.

Asked to outline the six points, the Opposition Leader initially attempted to deflect, in a performance that was reminiscent of 2013 Liberal candidate for the western Sydney seat of Greenway Jaymes Diaz, when he was forced to concede during his unsuccessful campaign that he wasn’t across Tony Abbott’s six point plan to stop the boats.

The Opposition Leader was unable to list the six elements of his party’s NDIS plan when asked by journalists.

“The six points are what we will do in terms of what was outlined by Bill Shorten,” Mr Albanese said.

“It is all around the theme of putting people at the centre of the NDIS.”

On a subsequent question, opposition climate change and energy spokesperson Chris Bowen spoke to the press conference while Mr Albanese was handed a note by an adviser.

When asked again about the Labor Party’s plan for the NDIS, he listed off the six elements from the document.

Mr Albanese has been grilled on multiple occasions about being unable to recall key facts, including an infamous gaffe when he could not recall the Reserve Bank’s cash rate and the national unemployment rate during the first week of the campaign.

Mr Albanese was able to recall his five-point aged care plan without having to refer to notes.

“It is nurses 24/7. It is making sure 215 minutes of care are given. It is making sure that there is better accountability for every dollar that is spent. It is making sure, as well, that there is better food and nutrition and we will have Maggie Beer help with that. The last and important part is better wages for people in aged care,” he said when asked.

The Opposition Leader ended his press conference abruptly after less than 20 minutes, refusing to take questions from many journalists who had not received the opportunity to ask one.

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 5, 2022 12:30 pm

Very interesting. Is the oil sourced locally?

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 12:30 pm

Miltonfsays:
May 5, 2022 at 12:12 pm
I suppose if you hate the productive middle and working classes, the green movement is for you. Bogans shouldn’t have nice things eh

To meny working class don’t see the Greens as the threat.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 12:32 pm

Re live animal exports. The second last voyage of sheep to leave West Aust. 42 died on the voyage. This number is unconfirmed at this moment in time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 12:32 pm

777,798 sheep were exported by sea. Of these, 0.224% died during the voyages. This equates to 1742 sheep died during all voyages in 2020.

About the same number which would die from natural causes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 12:33 pm

Perth Tradersays:

May 5, 2022 at 12:22 pm

Re…..live sheep exports. These are govt figures. In 2020:

777,798 sheep were exported by sea. Of these, 0.224% died during the voyages.

It would be interesting to compare that to the mortality rate for domestic yardings and transport, and even on-farm mortality (excluding lambing).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 12:34 pm

Perth Tradersays:

May 5, 2022 at 12:27 pm

Re live exports… in 2020 , 33,683 sheep were exported by air. Of these, three died during the flights….all govt figures.

Can we get a break down of Business Class vs Economy?

duncanm
duncanm
May 5, 2022 12:37 pm

Miltonfsays:
May 5, 2022 at 12:30 pm
Very interesting. Is the oil sourced locally?

yup. The refinery is about 100k from Haddon corner and sits smack bang in the middle of the Cooper-Eromanga basin from which the crude is sourced.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 12:41 pm

India isn’t protecting BigPharma.

It intrigues me how things have flipped over the last couple of years.
Up until 2019, scepticism of Big Pharma was largely the preserve of the left, whilst conservatives were more likely to regard pharmaceutical companies as a “net social good”.
That has turned on it’s head over the last two years.

Vicki
Vicki
May 5, 2022 12:41 pm

Dover – my understanding is that India refused to indemnify Pfizer re lawsuits.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 12:46 pm

Perth airline passengers may not be aware , but at times flying from Perth to Singapore or Perth to Malaysia they may have goats or lambs under there feet in the cargo hold. ..hahaaaaa.

Zipster
Zipster
May 5, 2022 12:47 pm

Anthony Albanese has been unable to outline his party’s own “six point plan” for the NDIS in another campaign stumble.

Anthony was born to lead, not to read

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
May 5, 2022 12:50 pm

Sneakers McGowan and his gang of lawyers and union hacks don’t give a rat’s ring about rural Western Australia aside from the huge rivers of wealth generated by mining.

Minuscule number of voters compared to Perth.

Total pop WA: 2.667 million
Pop Perth: 1.985 million
Regional 682K .

Keep slaving away in the bush, peasants, so we can build more magnificent city edifices and suburban train lines to celebrate the everlasting glory of His Glittering Codpiece.

Need a powerline to your farm? Piss off, pay for it yourself.

C.L.
C.L.
May 5, 2022 12:50 pm

“Child care.”

Would it be asking too much for Australian mothers to look after their own babies at home?

Poor poppet.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 12:52 pm

Anthony was born to lead, not to read

Colour me cynical, but I’m of the belief that Albo didn’t think anyone would dare to ask HIM any hard questions.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 5, 2022 12:52 pm

Biden Says Kids Belong to Their Teachers

Schools are becoming indoctrination factories, trying to turn children against their country and their own parents’ values. It’s what the teachers unions intend.

Amazingly, that’s just fine with President Joe Biden, who told a gathering of teachers and union bigwigs on April 27 that the kids are “yours when they’re in the classroom.” That wasn’t just a Biden stumble. He repeated it for emphasis: “They are all our children … They are not somebody else’s children.”

Sorry, Joe. But parents have a right to know what their children are being taught, and to set limits. State legislators in at least 12 states have introduced bills requiring teachers to post teaching materials, including books and videos, on a website for parents to inspect before their kids see them.

Good teachers will have no problem with that. But ideologically driven teachers, as well as the unions, are fighting back. That includes Randi Weingarten, head of the American Federation of Teachers. As she launched Teacher Appreciation Week — and most teachers do deserve our appreciation — Weingarten smeared classroom transparency requests as the work of political “extremists.”

Concerned parents are not political extremists, but Biden is joining the attack against transparency, parroting the unions. He and most Democrats in Congress are teachers union flunkies.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 5, 2022 12:53 pm

Have you guys ever considered that both sides might be Nazis?

‘There will be no mercy’ Putin mouthpiece warns of ‘concentration camps, sterilisation’ (Express, 5 May)

VLADIMIR PUTIN’s mouthpiece Karen Shakhnazarov has warned that “concentration camps and sterilisation” are on the cards for dissidents.

The Soviet-Russian filmmaker has warned Kremlin critics could face severe measures for opposing Russian President Vladimir Putin. Speaking on the Rossiya 1 television channel, Shakhnazarov lashed out at anti-war dissent ahead of Russia’s Victory Day parade in Red Square next week. His comments come after Putin claimed Russian society would “purify” itself of opposition figures.

He said: “The opponents of letter Z must understand that if they are counting on mercy, no.

“There will be no mercy for them.

“It all became very serious, in this case, it means concentration camps, re-education, sterilisation.

“This is very serious.”

Rather than his mouthpiece other news reports say he’s Putin’s ally, which I think would be more accurate. Maybe he’s serious, maybe he isn’t, but it’s certainly not a good look. It also comes only a day after Lavrov in effect accused the Israeli government of being Nazis. Which is not helpful to his cause in light of the large amount of support from the Russian Israelis in Israel.

I’ve said before that as well as Yemen this conflict looks quite similar to the Italo-Greek War in 1940, where Fascist Italy invaded Fascist Greece and the Greeks fought the Italians to a standstill, with some arms help provided by the Allies. Certainly both sides in this current one are acting like fascists.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 12:54 pm

think about your terminology…”uprising”

It’s the same terminology from your Furniture Store quote. Violently and physically ousted, it said. That is an uprising.

Freedom as it was at least prior to the coup d’etat

Attaboy. Stick with it. Perhaps the phrase will change its meaning if you use it enough.

Replace criminals in government with good, patriotic Australians.

This is what I’m asking you. It’s a serious question. Who, exactly? It’s an election year – the perfect opportunity for you. If not yourself, name your choice.

The plan I’ve had all along is no plan whatsoever.

That is the Captain Obvious statement of the century. One – that you do have a plan, and two – the plan is no plan.

Disgusting compliance brainwashed into you that sees all non compliance as a revolution, as an uprising.

Isn’t that what you’re promoting now? An uprising? YES, you fucking idiot? Remember that – only just now? A yes or no answer would be fine.

And the uncomfortable facts remain that if all Australia had taken the right approach at the start, like a few million did, but not enough, this would be over by now

You mean it’s not over? Vaccine mandates for going to the pub, death camps for the unvaxxed, international travel? Those bits at least are over – or in one case, never started.

we wouldn’t be facing the oncoming destruction via the typical Socialist printing of money to create the human misery needed to bring on an actual social credit accepting dystopia.

Oh. The old ‘change the ending to suit the present’ chestnut. Up until last week it was they will kill us all and those who survive will wish they were dead. Those are YOUR words, Mr. Forgetful.

You’re not fooling anyone, you know.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 12:55 pm

Dotsays:
May 5, 2022 at 10:35 am
When I was a teenager there wouldn’t have been a need for any lengthy grooming process if I had a teacher half as good looking as her.

No.

Either:

1. One rule for all – if guilty, she gets severely punished; or Grace Tame’s abuser is not an abuser and walks.

OR:

2. Women and girls are different and need less rights as a function of being protected, as per their differences to men and boys.

1.

Old bloke
Old bloke
May 5, 2022 12:56 pm

Pedro the Loafer says:
May 5, 2022 at 12:50 pm

Total pop WA: 2.667 million
Pop Perth: 1.985 million
Regional 682K .

Less than 1 million people in a state about the size of India. Most of those 682K would also be living in the south-west, mostly a few hours drive from Perth.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 12:56 pm

Minuscule number of voters compared to Perth.

Didn’t he rejig the system for the Upper House, so that there’s no way the Liberals will ever control it?

Zipster
Zipster
May 5, 2022 1:07 pm

Have you guys ever considered that both sides might be Nazis?

russia is a nuclear armed mafia state

one doesn’t have to support putin to be against this pointless and reckless war. if the US thinks this will result in regime change, then my opinion for what it’s worth is they are deeply delusional.

Let’s not forget that russia is a nuclear armed mafia state and if if the regime feels it is going down who will it take down with it?

the clownshow in the white house lurches from one catastrophe to the next, it is we who pay the price

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 1:08 pm

Australia is a rich country , governed by MORONS , in all 3 levels of goverment. You could throw rocks in a full house sitting of parliament and not hit one person with a brain and we are poorer because of it.

C.L.
C.L.
May 5, 2022 1:14 pm

Have you guys ever considered that both sides might be Nazis?

Leaving aside the n-word, it’s my belief – and fear – that all THREE sides in this conflict (Russia, Ukraine and the new, totally insane United States) are adrift from reason, moral objectivity and decency. The world is in very great danger.

I see Nancy Pelosi has called for Russia to be “decimated.”
In 1962, the Kennedy brothers had young wives and a team of children. They had a lot at stake; they felt the danger. Joe Biden has Hunter. The US is run by a literally demented, evil gerontocracy.

Meanwhile, to his very great credit, Pope Francis has said the war might not have started if NATO hadn’t spent years “barking at Russia’s door.” He’s trying to get into Moscow to speak with Putin. Is the desire sincere? Well, I can’t see the Patriarch agreeing to his superior – the successor of Peter – taking the lead on peace talks. Still, I give Francis credit for trying. He also gave the Patriarch a clip over the ears for being “Putin’s altar boy.”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 5, 2022 1:15 pm

H B Bearsays:

May 5, 2022 at 10:26 am

When you consider the amount of quackery medicine has attracted over history you can excuse them for clinging overly tightly to the “scientific method” or what remains of it.

Nope. The modern doc is fortified by the modern facades of sandstone universities and glass tower business, protected by the advocacy of ministers and union heads, and cushioned by the blow-in delivery of mountains of Medicare caaaaaash.

They only fear the tribunal and deregistration, because that would cut off the cashflow. (They probably fear the rozzers coming through the door and demanding records, and I can name only one- Dr Mark Hobart- has stood up to the pigs, and he’s being put through the wringer for it.)

They care not for the “scientific method”, as shown by so many of them who actively dismiss the evidence which is coming through their “practice”.

Our medical system has been corrupted.

duncanm
duncanm
May 5, 2022 1:17 pm

Old blokesays:
May 5, 2022 at 12:56 pm
Pedro the Loafer says:
May 5, 2022 at 12:50 pm

Total pop WA: 2.667 million
Pop Perth: 1.985 million
Regional 682K .

Less than 1 million people in a state about the size of India. Most of those 682K would also be living in the south-west, mostly a few hours drive from Perth.

yup: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/gk5yed/a_simple_visualization_of_western_australias/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 5, 2022 1:20 pm

And too be fair, from a few days ago here’s Ukraine doing their equivalent of what nice Mr Shakhnazarov was advocating for Russian dissidents.

Ukraine cracks down on ‘traitors’ helping Russian troops (29 Apr)

Human rights advocates know of “dozens” of detentions of pro-Russian activists in Kyiv alone since the new laws were passed, but how many have been targeted nationwide is unclear, said Volodymyr Yavorskyy, coordinator at the Center for Civil Liberties, one of Ukraine’s largest human rights groups.

“There is no complete data on the (entire) country, since it is all classified by the SBU,” Yavorskyy told AP.

RTWT, there’s much more detail included in the story. As I’ve said before, it’s going to be a looonng war. Neither side seems interested in negotiations right now.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 1:24 pm

No how mater how deeply you feel. Do not send cash over there otherwise you’ll be complicit in killing innocents. Outsiders doing this for the IRA and ANC had the same result.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 1:30 pm

KD at 12:54.
DeltaA nailed the question yesterday.
(Paraphrasing) “So, St Ruth, what would you have us do?”
All we get is vagaries like “resist” and “disobey” and “do not comply”.
Followed by viscious (sic) sprays at those who DO NOT COMPLY with these ill-defined terms.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 5, 2022 1:35 pm

Leaving aside the n-word, it’s my belief – and fear – that all THREE sides in this conflict (Russia, Ukraine and the new, totally insane United States) are adrift from reason, moral objectivity and decency.

Um, CL, you forgot to add the EU and China.

Same thing is underlaying the whole lot of them – leftyism. Fascism is a lefty ideology, and all five have strong elements of it right now, as we’ve been seeing with the Covid stuff.

I have no idea how it’ll turn out. I got flamed here when I mentioned nukes might get used. But that’s actually a widespread fear, not helped by hyperbolic comments from Russian TV guys recently.

Demand for Nuclear Bunkers Soars as Russia-Ukraine War Fuels Fear in Europe (1 May)

Companies across Europe are reporting a sharp rise in demand for bomb shelters and bunkers as citizens fear Russia may soon use nuclear weapons in the ongoing war with Ukraine.

Residents in Germany, Switzerland, France and the U.K. have increasingly been seeking information about building and buying protective shelters amid fears that the war could spread further into Europe, several companies recently told The Telegraph. Russia has repeatedly warned the West not to interfere in its invasion of Ukraine, and has alluded to the possibility of using nuclear weapons if tensions further escalate.

Won’t help them much in event of a real nuking, but the builders will like the extra business.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 1:39 pm

All we get is vagaries like “resist” and “disobey” and “do not comply”.

Plausible deniablity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 1:41 pm

bespokesays:

May 5, 2022 at 1:39 pm

All we get is vagaries like “resist” and “disobey” and “do not comply”.

Plausible deniablity.

Correct.
Keep it vague and decide after the event “what youse should of done”.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 1:47 pm

I don’t remember the exact words but you were indeed keen to see certain persons leave by fair means or foul.
And you certainly made it clear they would never be welcome at your special place.
Looking forward to ongoing rumpelstiltskinning into 2023 because I didn’t get your permission to travel.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 1:48 pm

Can someone tell on what date the vaccines do nuffink science was settled?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 1:50 pm

Mr Panzer at 1.30:

All we get is vagaries like “resist” and “disobey” and “do not comply”.

This is one of the issues, if not the primary issue for me. There is no plan, aside from telling others to comply with vague concepts which could mean anything, dependent on the individual’s point of view.

Resist. Disobey. Do not comply. Fight. Freedom. They are used so much in this context they’ve become corporate motherhood lexicon, stripped of their actual meaning.

He’s clinging to the remnants of what he was originally on about, and now gone full Faulty on the social credit stuff because all his other ill-thought-out and bonzo-site-conceived-and-plagiarised causes have turned to shit.

That Billy Connolly animated clip of St. Ruth at the Last Holdout Rally last night was nail on head stuff.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 1:53 pm

Plausible deniablity

Oh my wordy lordy yes. ‘Well that’s not what I meant. Anyone who could read plain English could see I meant X instead’ and so on.

A bit like ‘well what would you have concluded*’ when the death camps were repurposed or not built at all.

*Actual (deflated) quote.

Old bloke
Old bloke
May 5, 2022 1:54 pm

Bruce of Newcastle says:
May 5, 2022 at 1:20 pm

RTWT, there’s much more detail included in the story. As I’ve said before, it’s going to be a looonng war. Neither side seems interested in negotiations right now.

It will be a long war as its purpose is to wear down the Russians. Putin’s best option is to limit the war to hold the Russian ethnic areas and not expand his line further. I suppose he’d also like to capture Odessa as a bargaining chip in future negotiations, Odessa being Ukraine’s last seaport.

If he was to do that though he’d have to expand his line and have the problem of holding a pocket where the civilian population don’t hold the Russians in high esteem. He would then have to fight the Ukrainians on a larger front and risk an insurgency behind his lines, not a smart move.

At best, this will just degenerate into a stalemate with Russia holding the Russian ethnic areas, and the arms manufacturers enjoying their two years of prosperity following the last two years of plenty for the pharmaceutical corporations.

When (if?) sanity returns, the west and Russia will resume trading though with more mistrust than before and Zelensky will go and live in his multi-million dollar Florida villa and he will supplement his income by starring in heroic films made in Hollywood while also making millions selling his own-brand drab green T-shirts.

Struth
May 5, 2022 1:54 pm

All we get is vagaries like “resist” and “disobey” and “do not comply”.

Vagaries?
So these vagaries are all you get ?
Make up your minds.
I’m either calling you to war, or I’m just promoting these highly do-able (as you were doing them before the COUP DE’ETAT vagaries.

Sick fucks.
I explain to KD why disobeying isn’t a rebellion and all he sees is an uprising, a rebellion.
Can’t see the forest for the trees.

Brainwashed Vicplods like you start shooting at innocent peaceful demonstrators.

Oh and by the look of the upticks, I’m not alone in my assessment of your mental breakdowns.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 1:55 pm

I once stood outside the health care centre with someone else’s baby in a capsule.
Mum had loaded up the two old older children and driven off without baby.
She came back about fifteen minutes later.
Still, no excuse not to check the bus before you lock up.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 1:59 pm

Only loosers care about uptics.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 2:02 pm
Struth
May 5, 2022 2:03 pm

Resist. Disobey. Do not comply. Fight. Freedom. They are used so much in this context they’ve become corporate motherhood lexicon, stripped of their actual meaning.

Take a breath……

You’re a mental midget.
A boofhead plod.
Never met a bright one yet.

These are simple , straight forward actions.
Do not comply.

Staight forward English here……..many thousands, possibly millions of women in Australia doing just that.
Resist…..Resist complying.
Disobey.
Do not comply with criminal’s orders.

When you don’t want to do these things, you pretend they are just vague concepts when they are not.
You did comply, and you own what’s coming.
Millions did not comply, and are still out of work because of it.
Had their lives ruined, because they stuck to principles you fuckers want to wave away as vagaries.
Had their lives ruined because you wouldn’t join them.

That’s nothing but fact.

cohenite
May 5, 2022 2:04 pm

79% of the babies aborted by planned parenthood are black. Candice goes ballistic over the leftie bullshit about Roe v Wade being over-turned:

https://videos.whatfinger.com/2022/05/04/candace-owens-goes-full-tiger-mom-over-abortion-it-is-not-normal-it-is-barbaric/

Struth
May 5, 2022 2:09 pm

And by the way Rosie grub, I’m no saint.
I like rooting and drinking and I swear too much.
However…….compared to you, I am a saint….so are most people.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 5, 2022 2:11 pm

Tanya Plibersek reckons that, after nine years of a Liberal Government, IT’S TIME for a Labor Government….

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 2:13 pm

Although if spooks were interested they only need to search the old cat. Walking it back know will not save him.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 2:17 pm

Neither will hiding it in the walld garden.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 5, 2022 2:23 pm

Resist…..Resist complying.
Disobey.

We’ve not been obeying you for some time…

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 5, 2022 2:23 pm

Re live animal exports…..8400 goats exported by plane

Any stats on their luggage?

Struth
May 5, 2022 2:26 pm

Go your hardest bespoke.
Go to the fairy tale section where you all put your words in other people’s mouths and then attack those words.
I stand by absolutely EVERYTHING I have ever said.
Not what MV said, SSR or Ted Bullpit, or anyone who you fuckers think I’m grouped in with.

I’m grouped in with no one.
There’s a concept you might want to think about.
How about that for a concept?

dopey
dopey
May 5, 2022 2:26 pm

With the A350-1000 Qantas can fly sheep Sydney-London, Sydney- New York non-stop. This was Al’s plan all along.

Struth
May 5, 2022 2:27 pm

We’ve not been obeying you for some time…

Never asked you to do anything.
However , if I knew how easy you were………………….

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 2:27 pm

Make up your minds.
I’m either calling you to war

Well, this was you when I asked if you were all in for violent and forcible government removal

YES, you fucking idiot.

Or – OR:

or I’m just promoting these highly do-able

You’ve been doing freedom from your couch, so yeah. Obviously.

Disgusting compliance brainwashed into you that sees all non compliance as a revolution, as an uprising.

Which is it?

I’m not sure you know what you want yourself – other than for other people to make your own life better, and to the detriment of those other people.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 2:29 pm

I stand by absolutely EVERYTHING I have ever said.

Okay:

They will kill us all, and those who survive will wish they were dead.

Where do you stand on this one?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 5, 2022 2:30 pm

What would you have us do?

REPORT THIS AD

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 2:31 pm

Do not comply with criminal’s orders

Surely a violent and forceful overthrow is called for.

Struth
May 5, 2022 2:33 pm

Every post you make is proving my point here, KD.
Are you not even aware of that, such is your mental state?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 5, 2022 2:33 pm

Never asked you to do anything.

Yeah, righto Struth…

What about all the demands to stand and (if necessary) fall? And all your (just upthread) exhortations to ReSiSt and DiSoBeY?

Have you forgotten all of that already in order to be able to try and get a single rhetorical ‘win’ over a hated Class Enemy?

And so on and so forth?

Winston Smith
May 5, 2022 2:36 pm

Rosie:

I’m confused.
If the reserve bank raises the rates again and banks start paying more to depositors, but borrowers only have to pay 3% does that mean anything?

It means the shortfall would be made up in taxes or other ways to make it up.
So in short, those of us who paid 10 – 17% will now subsidise those who are saying 3% is too much.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 2:38 pm

I’m sure the Christchurch killer thought he had supporters. Probably did until he did the deed.

His rambling manifesto was a shopping list of excuses.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 5, 2022 2:38 pm

If only Faulty had spent more on the Furniture shop he could have had a brighter fountain of knowledge instead he got Ken Worth whose claim to fame as Australia’s only hero of the couch.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 2:41 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 2:41 pm

Every post you make is proving my point here, KD.

Aspiring totalitarian and Leader of The People. There will be no deviation from the One True Path.

Failed totalitarian and Leader of The People. Nobody listened to me. It is everyone else’s fault.

The holder of Potential Greatness.

well what else would you have concluded.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 2:42 pm
Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
May 5, 2022 2:42 pm

Singapore Airlines can carry as many sheep and goats in the cargo bays that will fit, just so long as they keep their stunningly beautiful flight attendants.

Struth
May 5, 2022 2:44 pm

Well, this was your answer when I asked if you were all in for violent and forcible government removal

YES, you fucking idiot.

This was the actual question.

So – stand and fight and if necessary fall, right?

YES, you fucking idiot.

I rest my case, your honour.
KD is a truth twisting, brainwashed Vicplod reject who sees any opposition to government, even if it’s completely peaceful , as an attempt at violently overthrowing the government, and those types who don’t comply, Nazis all, need to be taken down, shot at, even if they are peacefully protesting on the steps of the shrine.
KD knows what they are really all about.
Can’t fool him.

People you have some real nut jobs here.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 5, 2022 2:47 pm

People you have some real nut jobs here.

Don’t you just love being put up with here, Struth? 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 2:48 pm

fight

verb
1.
take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons.

Plain English. As plain as can be.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 5, 2022 2:48 pm

I did enjoy the vapourings of the loony feminist posted earlier. She wanted a complete separation of the sexes, except that mothers could keep their male children for a little while. She wasn’t sure how long. Men had to do their own laundry and shopping, no women were to be allowed to help them.

As an interim measure, I suggest that only men should be allowed to use inventions made by men, such as ‘fridges and washing machines and everything using electricity, including the internet, and women should be allowed to use only inventions made by women, mainly throw cushions. But we’d let women into our homes to borrow them, in exchange for sex and not nagging.

Struth
May 5, 2022 2:53 pm

Let’s face it.
People who didn’t want to accept any civil responsibility, or responsibility toward their fellow man, look for an excuse to not do so.
The most pathetic excuse is “I wooda dun ut, but I won’t have struth tell me what to do”
You’ll be butt fucked and told exactly what to do to the point of losing your bodily autonomy, you’ll be penetrated multiple times by government with a poison injection, and take it good and hard……because you’re rebelling against an online commenter right?
One who never ordered you to do anything, one that can’t anyway, and one you don’t even have to read?

Surely you could come up with a better story than that.

Struth
May 5, 2022 2:57 pm

fight

verb
1.
take part in a violent struggle involving the exchange of physical blows or the use of weapons.

Plain English. As plain as can be.

Now is that at the front door of my house, or is that a violent takeover of government?

You’re a goose KD, and I know now you’re scrambling ….but it’s too late.

One day you’ll thank me for opening your eyes to just how brainwashed you were.

A Bex and a lie down is my suggestion.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 5, 2022 3:00 pm

One who never ordered you to do anything, one that can’t anyway, and one you don’t even have to read?

So if this is the case, why have you been venting your spleen at the entire Cat for over 24 months then, Struth?

Is it all just performance art for its own sake?

Is it all an online virtue signal that you didn’t need to go through the rigmarole of getting a Blue Checkmark to indulge in?

Or are you such an emotionally weak little manlet, that the DoverCat is the only place you feel safe anywhere to speak your piece?

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 3:02 pm
Real Deal
Real Deal
May 5, 2022 3:04 pm

They will kill us all, and those who survive will wish they were dead.

Wish they were dead?

Does that involve some sort of historical or involved torture? Say bamboo under the fingernails, red hot poker in the fundaments or even electrodes attached to bits? Asking on behalf of my associates.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 3:07 pm

I just hope all the petals of wisedom are perserved elsewhere.
You just never know when a blog might close.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 3:11 pm

The internet is forever, rosie. Just not always occupying the same space.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 3:18 pm

KD at 1:50.

That Billy Connolly animated clip of St. Ruth at the Last Holdout Rally last night was nail on head stuff.

You mean this?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 3:22 pm

Oh and by the look of the upticks, I’m not alone in my assessment of your mental breakdowns.

Wait!
What?
This would mean you’re the establishment and we’re the resistance.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 3:23 pm

You mean this?

Yes. That exact thing.

Right down to the funny army hat, and his mate that fucks off on him half way through.

Winston Smith
May 5, 2022 3:26 pm

Australian Debt Clock:
Total Government Debt is the gross sum of liabilities across federal, state and local Government in Australia.

Total Australian Government Debt increased by a mere 13.5% from December 1989 to December 2007, from AU$81.2 billion to AU$92.1 billion.
However, from December 2008 to December 2017 Total Australian Government debt increased by over 520% from AU$115.4 billion to AU$716.3 billion.
The primary reason behind this increase has been to provide depth in the market for government bonds so that the Reserve Bank of Australia can easily increase liquidity through open market operations by printing more Australian Dollars and buying the government bonds back.

$1.5 Trillion in debt – that’s National + State + Local Authorities.
I just love the way everyone is able to quantify it in separate terms. It doesn’t matter how the sums are split up, the end result is that you and I are up for the total of the debt.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 3:32 pm

Another thing that puzzles me (yes there are many such) about the 18 to 48 month thing.
Is there some sort of clock in the vaccine set to detonate a kill switch beginning in, as of now, eleven months?
And why 18 to 48 months? Is it to lull people into some sort of sense of security?
And didn’t lots of people (most) just get saline injections, or was it hugely different dosages because no product control.
And why are 52 year olds jumping the gun?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 3:33 pm

bespokesays:

May 5, 2022 at 2:38 pm

I’m sure the Christchurch killer thought he had supporters. Probably did until he did the deed.

His rambling manifesto was a shopping list of excuses.

Good point.
He thought he had an army of uptickers behind him and was sure he would spark an UpRisIng.
By the time he got to court he had gone from Stand or Fall Warrior to a pants-wetting Julian Knight level sook.
Wouldn’t object if they fed him through a mincer at the Pal factory, sans anaesthetic.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 5, 2022 3:38 pm

cohenitesays:
May 5, 2022 at 2:04 pm
79% of the babies aborted by planned parenthood are black.

See the inherent waaasssscissssm and privilege of the DemonRat rich upper middle class women (predominantly white).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 5, 2022 3:39 pm

rosiesays:

May 5, 2022 at 3:07 pm

I just hope all the petals of wisedom are perserved elsewhere.

Plenty of receipts have been kept.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 5, 2022 3:40 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
May 5, 2022 at 2:11 pm
Tanya Plibersek reckons that, after nine years of a Liberal Government, IT’S TIME for a Labor Government….

Doesn’t know history. It is 23 years of Liberal government before “It’s Time” comes around.

Winston Smith
May 5, 2022 3:44 pm

Feelthebern:

Sometimes I wonder if the DNC will do something so extreme like somehow postponing the mid-terms.
After what we’ve seen over the past 6 years, could you have 100% confidence in saying that won’t happen?
I don’t.
Very very very unlikely, but not impossible.

I believe it is very much on the cards, FTB. There are too many potential heads in nooses for them to risk an honest election now.
The entire US is doing a repeat performance of Weimar Germany – the corruption, the moral degeneracy, the out of control government spending, and the street violence. The only thing the US has got going for it atm is the armed populace – mind you, the total absence of any shows of defiance by the people says to me this is a myth. There’s no point in having teeth and claws if one doesn’t intend using them except for show,

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 5, 2022 3:44 pm

That 1.5 trillion is just so those arseholes can keep their noses in the trough. Anyone who cheats on their taxes is no more a criminal than these bastards. The best thing you can do is to do as much for yourself or exchange with someone else.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 5, 2022 3:49 pm

What the US needs is several grassy knolls followed by many chicken trucks. You know it makes sense. Then again we could with them too.

2dogs
May 5, 2022 3:49 pm

Kirill was listing off all the justifications for the war from a sheet of paper he was holding

Does anyone have a link to this list?

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 5, 2022 3:54 pm
rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 3:54 pm

It was a private meeting between Kirill and Francis so I’d be surprised if it was publicly available.

sfw
sfw
May 5, 2022 4:00 pm

TE, she’s a stunner, don’t know why people say they prefer blondes, dark hair and brown eyes for me anyday.

bespoke
bespoke
May 5, 2022 4:02 pm

Go to the fairy tale section where you all put your words in other people’s mouths and then attack those words.

What words?

Winston Smith
May 5, 2022 4:02 pm

Humphrey B Bear:

Dave Chappell breaks the Golden Rule – don’t upset the trannies.

If they are provoked by words to be violent, it shows how profoundly mentally unwell they are. Perhaps the Courts can get them the compulsory mental health care they so obviously need.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 4:03 pm

Top Ender….hmmm, yeah….ok….not bad…hmmm?

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
May 5, 2022 4:09 pm

Without any doubt the hottest , best looking , most beautiful , most feminine cabin crew in the whole wide universe are Thai Airways .

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 5, 2022 4:10 pm

Without any doubt the hottest , best looking , most beautiful , most feminine cabin crew in the whole wide universe are Thai Airways .

Qantas hearts are breaking.

Franx
Franx
May 5, 2022 4:20 pm

Too many pregnant women were willing enough to be vaxxed, risking unknown effects upon their unborn children yet not prepared to risk being in the company of healthy unvaxxed persons. Coercion was not always or often in play, but, as Struth keeps saying, compliance was, holding, as it did, the promise of being in the fold.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 4:26 pm

I know quite a few young women who have recently had babies, or who will shortly have babies*.
Pregnant women were/are at higher risk from covid and were as far as I am concerned well advised to be vaccinated.
When I read nonsense like 84 % of pregnant women blah blah blah I know who I am more likely to believe when it comes to the health of mother and child.
*to date zero adverse outcomes vaccine related or otherwise.

Kneel
Kneel
May 5, 2022 4:27 pm

“Why does the Father not have any say.”

Yeah – the whole thing is a legal as well as ethical nightmare.

Ignoring the ethics for now (which is a other whole can of worms as well, and well worth discussing):

* What about rape? How can you prove it – especially if the mother claims to have been drugged etc? Do you have to prove it? What if you can’t and the father is unknown? If the father is known, does he have to be charged with rape? Convicted of it? If convicted, what if the court case takes longer than the pregnancy?

* What about incest?

* What if the father wants an abortion and the mother doesn’t, does he still have to pay child support?

* What if the father wants to keep it and the mother doesn’t, does she have to carry it to term and then hand it over with no access and no responsibility? Or does she need to pay child support as well, same as the father would?

* What if the mother (and/or father) is a minor? Who decides mother(father) or guardian? What if the mother(father) will have attained her(his) majority at the expected birth date?

I’m sure you can think of other situations where it is in no way simple.

Better to keep GovCo out of such choices as much as possible and not legislate other than the bare minimum required (which is also hard, but less hard than the alternatives), and then spend the effort in changing societal attitudes to socially enforce “safe, legal and rare”, IMO.
Not perfect, but as per the above, neither is the world. It’s messy – very, very messy. Especially where the sex act and it’s consequences are concerned!

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 5, 2022 4:27 pm

If you’re looking for a scary movie, try The Empty Man.
I watched it a few months back & it almost made me Amber Heard myself.
It was on the box last night & I watched a bit.
Still scary even though I’d seen it before.

duncanm
duncanm
May 5, 2022 4:29 pm

Without any doubt the hottest , best looking , most beautiful , most feminine cabin crew in the whole wide universe are Thai Airways

meanwhile, on Leprechaun air..
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/qantas-staff-walk-through-the-terminal-of-sydney-domestic-airport-on-picture-id475204083?s=2048×2048

Frank
Frank
May 5, 2022 4:33 pm

Without any doubt the hottest , best looking , most beautiful , most feminine cabin crew in the whole wide universe are Thai Airways .

One notes the absence of the word women in that description. It is Thailand after all.

Zipster
Zipster
May 5, 2022 4:35 pm

Another thing that puzzles me (yes there are many such) about the 18 to 48 month thing.
Is there some sort of clock in the vaccine set to detonate a kill switch beginning in, as of now, eleven months?
And why 18 to 48 months? Is it to lull people into some sort of sense of security?

acquired immune deficiency syndrome

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 5, 2022 4:36 pm

Speaking of feminine, any updates on Mr Pusey and his gender reassignment?

Zipster
Zipster
May 5, 2022 4:44 pm

Another thing that puzzles me (yes there are many such) about the 18 to 48 month thing.
Is there some sort of clock in the vaccine set to detonate a kill switch beginning in, as of now, eleven months?
And why 18 to 48 months? Is it to lull people into some sort of sense of security?

acquired immune deficiency syndrome

what does that mean? Are there hiv proteins in the S1 spike protein. if you look up gp120 inserts spike protein, it shows apparently there are highly similar proteins. what a coincidence.

Will these allow access to immune cells? nobody knows. can this lead to aids? no one can say, probably not, who knows.

Was the intent to create a common cold based pathogenic bioweapon with an hiv kicker?

If you ask me, highly likely.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 4:46 pm

Is one supposed to take such conjecture seriously?

JC
JC
May 5, 2022 4:47 pm

Someone came up with this.

Roe vs Wade as in rowing a boat and wading through water. Kids are born is a sack of water. He reckoned the Simulation was having a lend.

John H.
John H.
May 5, 2022 4:49 pm

rosiesays:
May 5, 2022 at 3:32 pm
Another thing that puzzles me (yes there are many such) about the 18 to 48 month thing.
Is there some sort of clock in the vaccine set to detonate a kill switch beginning in, as of now, eleven months?
And why 18 to 48 months? Is it to lull people into some sort of sense of security?
And didn’t lots of people (most) just get saline injections, or was it hugely different dosages because no product control.
And why are 52 year olds jumping the gun?

Rosie don’t be puzzled by bullshit. Step around it don’t inspect it.

Jorge
Jorge
May 5, 2022 4:52 pm

Without any doubt the hottest , best looking , most beautiful , most feminine cabin crew in the whole wide universe are Thai Airways

Before Covid the HK Jockey Club employed a large number of luverly ladies for post race ceremonies. Always neatly turned out in tailored skirts and heels. Aiming to please. So different to western women who are on a mission to show they don’t have to please anyone.

Struth
May 5, 2022 4:55 pm

Rosie declares the vaccines safe.
Thank fuck for that.
Up until then we only had the science to go by.

cohenite
May 5, 2022 4:58 pm

Without any doubt the hottest , best looking , most beautiful , most feminine cabin crew in the whole wide universe are Thai Airways .

True. In 1998 3 mates and me flew to the Maldives to surf. We flew Thai and drank the plane dry of cognac and had an impromptu game of touch football with Thai security guards when we touched down in Bangkok. The cabin staff hung around to keep score. We slept well on the second leg. If we did that today, we’d be shot.

JC
JC
May 5, 2022 5:00 pm

Give it a fucking rest, Stuth , you dickhead. You complete bore. FFS, it’s been going onto 18 months of this redneck loudmouth van driver lecturing his betters. You come on here subjected to daily screeds from this imbecile.

JC
JC
May 5, 2022 5:01 pm

If we did that today, we’d be shot.

And so you should. It’s terrible drunken, loutish behavior.

Vicki
Vicki
May 5, 2022 5:01 pm

Re the HIV proteins in the CV sequence – this is what first alerted Luc Montagnier, the discoverer of the HIV AIDS syndrome to the probability that the virus was the product of gain of function virus development.

cohenite
May 5, 2022 5:01 pm

Sorry that stat I put up earlier about black abortions was wrong: it’s 40% of all abortions from 7% of the female population; still catastrophic.

Struth
May 5, 2022 5:06 pm

Give it a fucking rest, Stuth , you dickhead. You complete bore. FFS, it’s been going onto 18 months of this redneck loudmouth van driver lecturing his betters. You come on here subjected to daily screeds from this imbecile.

I’m not jabbed and losing my faculties JC.The unfortunate thing about a denialist’s conclusion is reality smacking them in the face.

JC
JC
May 5, 2022 5:07 pm

Rasmussen Reports
@Rasmussen_Poll
·

48% of likely voters approve of a potential Roe V. Wade overturning.

45% disapprove.

It’s basically a wash and the broad public is around the same supporting vs opposing child hoovering.

This feels a little different though.

Rasmussen Reports
@Rasmussen_Poll
·

“Roe has been the law of the land for almost fifty years, and basic fairness and the stability of our law demand that it not be overturned.”

60% agree.
35% disagree.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 5, 2022 5:08 pm

I’m not jabbed and losing my faculties JC

Of course not.

You’re unjabbed and becoming increasingly deranged.

Struth
May 5, 2022 5:11 pm

Fauci’s the AIDS man.
The elephant is in the room.
The unvaxxed are not dying or getting sick in anywhere near the numbers the vaxxed are.
And it’s only just starting.
More boosters, more chance of going sooner, as Isreal are showing us.
The results coming back from the US forces regarding pregnant female soldiers etc, proof from the UK on it goes, and goes and goes.
But Notaclue only wants to pick the results she likes.
Just declares everything else to be bullshit.
She ‘s certifiable.
Are you?

Tick tick tick…….

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 5, 2022 5:12 pm

Hannity checks in.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 5, 2022 5:12 pm

DBG:

and women should be allowed to use only inventions made by women, mainly throw cushions.

Flower vases.
Pot pourri.
Inspirational quotes made into prints and/or wall hangings.
Spanx.

Frank
Frank
May 5, 2022 5:17 pm

Spanx was made by men.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 5:18 pm

Thank you John.
Enough produced here on a daily basis to end our dependence on imported fertiliser.

rosie
rosie
May 5, 2022 5:19 pm

I’ll stick to believing my non lying eyes thank you.

Frank
Frank
May 5, 2022 5:19 pm

Men with a background in structural engineering.

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