23 responses to “Mater’s Musing #53: Gee, this looks bad?”

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   Zipster

   Jul 13, 2022 4:26 PM

   SAFE & EFFECTIVE!

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   mem

   Jul 13, 2022 4:33 PM

   A puzzle for the ages. If the mortality data shows a spike in Covid cases followed by a spike in deaths, but the spike in cases is amongst the young, and the spike in deaths is amongst the old, how do we square this circle? Is it something other than Covid killing the oldies?

   Like me, they may have spent several hours trying to register for Medicare rebates online only to discover they had to register for MyGov first and fill in endless questions, get mobile codes, set passwords then go through the whole process again for Medicare just so they could make a claim and decided that enough was enough and turned turtle!

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   Bruce of Newcastle

   Jul 13, 2022 4:49 PM

   One aspect is the spike in deaths probably corresponds to about 6 months after vaccination, which was rolled out first for the over 80s. We know from the Swedish data that protection on average goes negative after 6 months. So the vaccine has probably increased the mortality rate by an accident of timing. The boostering would help lower that but it wasn’t until later that they started pushing the booster I think. (And the booster protective effect lasts even shorter than the original vax.)

   On the other hand if they’d not banned ivermectin maybe a lot of those poor people could’ve been saved.

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   mem

   Jul 13, 2022 4:59 PM

   Perhaps a lot of the elderly in aged care who are on deaths door are again being transferred back into the hospital system and classified with Covid regardless of whether they are dying with Covid or because of Covid. This would push numbers up and create a spike.

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   duncanm

   Jul 13, 2022 5:23 PM

   WHat’s more of a worry is that they’re panicking over a spike in excess deaths of 500 people… while the underlying cancer excess mortality (Mater’s link to death stats) has been running at 50-100 per month for over a year – presumably due to lack of access to treatment and diagnosis, and the diabetes and dementia excess deaths are also running at about 10-20% above average.

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   Judge Dredd

   Jul 13, 2022 7:05 PM

   But, but, but how can the COVID cases and deaths increase when everyone is vaxed..?
   VAIDS

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   Shy Ted

   Jul 13, 2022 7:29 PM

   About that PCR conifrmed and RAT probable statistic. The inventor says

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   Ed Case

   Jul 13, 2022 7:34 PM

   The Stat that counts is how many youngsters have become invalids after taking the CovidDeathShot.

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   Chris M

   Jul 13, 2022 7:34 PM

   Fresh quarterly data out end of this month!

   Excess deaths +20% are happening everywhere in the West where the experimental jobs were pushed. England & Wales +1350 deaths a week, around 70,000 a year if that rate continues. Among all age groups, not elderly.

   You are the carbon they wish to reduce.

   We know from the Swedish data that protection on average goes negative after 6 months.

   Six weeks Bruce.

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    Dave of Gold Coast, Aust.

    Jul 13, 2022 9:58 PM

    Why not find the statistics from England, Canada and more to find the death rate has skyrocketing amongst the those who have had three and four vaccine shots. it is the vaccine effects in destroying immune systems and the horrific side effects that are killing people. We all need to stop listening ti the lying MSM and corrupt politicians and do some research of what is happening all over the world including Queensland and the rest of Australia as well.

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    Rob MW

    Jul 13, 2022 10:04 PM

    A puzzle for the ages. If the mortality data shows a spike in Covid cases followed by a spike in deaths, but the spike in cases is amongst the young, and the spike in deaths is amongst the old, how do we square this circle? Is it something other than Covid killing the oldies?

    Squaring the circle is rationally quite simple. According to the the rich aristocrats and their bankers, if the disease doesn’t kill you then the experimental cure will, and if you somehow survive, you will then be made to starve albeit for nourishing bugs and lab grown meat, and at which point, you will have nothing, and then the rich aristocrats and their bankers will mandate happiness whether you like or not.

    As Neil Oliver recently said; look at the WEF, WHO and UN like a dog that wants to bite you !

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    Fair Shake

    Jul 14, 2022 6:57 AM

    I understood net deaths in 2020 and 2021 were down on historical trends. As one observer posted, the dry timber is building up in the forest. There must come a point when a mortality catch-up returns. …and watch the media frenzy go back to 11.

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    Lurx

    Jul 14, 2022 8:32 AM

    Hmmmmm, I do not find that all this truth is all that concerning.

    The over abundance of media induced bullshit is a problem, but then media crap has always been designed to get under the skin and all relative to the age of rapid communication…. coupled to a norm inl human stupidity.
    We just have to learn to live with bullshit being delivered at an ever increasing pace.

    I have noticed however, every second person I talk with these days is considering a shift to a piece of paradise lost….. out in the bush some where.

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    Big_Nambas

    Jul 14, 2022 10:48 AM

    I find it interesting that the majority of you believe the government numbers.
    I don’t believe ANYTHING the government or their lackeys say.

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    backburn

    Jul 14, 2022 1:56 PM

    If they don’t “1984” the data, I am confident that the COVID vaccines will be judged the worst medical treatment in history. Not a prophylaxis, not a cure and experimentally mass released.

    No mRNA vaccine had every passed Phase 3 animal trials.

    Immunology 101 and Physiology 101 combined are 48 hours of course work. You had 18 months to decide.

    Any person who was not forced (job requirement) to take it is an utter moron.

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    Chris M

    Jul 14, 2022 3:06 PM

    I find it interesting that the majority of you believe the government numbers.
    I don’t believe ANYTHING the government or their lackeys say.

    Excellent point BN. The gov data comes with political bias, and NSW for example has been caught fiddling the data.

    However we must work with what is available and the advantage is that we know what the bias is inclined towards. In other words, like the UK data if the numbers are so bad even the fiddled version is terrible this gives a glimpse of how terrible the actual situation must be. Then go looking at alternative unrelated sources (life insurance, mortuary numbers) to see how they stack up.
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    Bruce

    Jul 14, 2022 5:36 PM

    OK all you actual mathematics types out there:

    PCR stands for “Polymerase Chain Reaction” and it is a STATISTICAL ANALYSIS process that involve s LOT of “oversampling”.

    Those more familiar with digital audio and video will be familiar with that term.. It involve encrypting and subsequently decrypting digitized information in such a way that the inherently required error -correction is more precise. I just use the stuff, I don’t understand the code to it’s core. Basic interpolative error correction of the untangled Cross-Interleaved Reed-Solomon Code is core to sources like the now humble CD, but its use dates back well before those little shiny miracles landed around 1982.

    Rapid Antigen Tests are supposed to find a specific bit of chemistry in a nasal swab. But WHICH Antigen?

    Given the multitude of “corona-virus” types floating about the planet, which one do we seek? More pertinently; is the el-cheapo RAT kit engineered to find ONE and ONLY ONE antigen? If not, why not?

    And I am getting mightily sick of the LSM / “expert” drivel anthropomorphising Covid 19 and its alleged bastard offspring.

    If a blob of otherwise lifeless molecules started to “WANT” to “adapt” / “evolve” it would therefore actually be more than just sentient and WE WOULD HAVE ALL BEEN DEAD LONG AGO / NEVER BORN.

    Any predator or parasite that is TOO successful eventually runs out of targets and gets a Darwin Award. IF this little beastie IS really getting more lethal, it is NOT part of the natural order of things. It may well be “ENGINEERED”.

    That is bad enough, but there ise an endless conga-line of “interesting” folk seemingly heavily financially and philosophically “invested” in playing murderous games with this whole caper.

    “Political Science”, as it were.

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    Crossie

    Jul 15, 2022 7:28 AM

    mem says:
    July 13, 2022 at 4:59 pm
    Perhaps a lot of the elderly in aged care who are on deaths door are again being transferred back into the hospital system and classified with Covid regardless of whether they are dying with Covid or because of Covid. This would push numbers up and create a spike.

    My mother died on 23rd of January with COVID-19, not of it. She was 85 and dying even before she became infected. The doctor in the hospital told me that yet he still put COVID-19 as the cause of death on the death certificate.

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    Chris M

    Jul 15, 2022 9:39 AM

    Donald Trump’s ex-wife died today of the clot-shot he instigated. ‘Warp Speed’ apparently refers to the depopulation aspect. Possibly his biggest failing unfortunately, too trusting of officials and big business.

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    flyingduk

    Jul 15, 2022 8:10 PM

    My mother died on 23rd of January with COVID-19, not of it. She was 85 and dying even before she became infected

    Correct, the biggest risk factor for dying of covid is to be already dying of something else.

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    mem

    Jul 15, 2022 9:49 PM

    Maybe there was an end of financial year rush to get the figures in for the subsidies? Anything is possible when you are playing with statistics in the health system.
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    Bruce

    Jul 16, 2022 12:16 PM

    An actual medical type has a few points to add:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f45S6vmQgA
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    Seco05

    Jul 18, 2022 10:44 PM

    Donald Trump’s ex-wife died today of the clot-shot he instigated. ‘Warp Speed’ apparently refers to the depopulation aspect. Possibly his biggest failing unfortunately, too trusting of officials and big business.

    ? %

    But the clown thinks it his greatest achievement. He was merely a useful idiot.