Open Thread – Tues 19 July 2022


Woman on a Porch with Flowers, Robert Lewis Reid, 1906

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 20, 2022 4:39 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 20, 2022 4:42 pm

Regarding the imported bacon – does the meat itself start in Australia, either as live animals or as the carnage from a sty apocalypse?

Maybe not the latter.

But it might turn out that if there is a large processing plant somewhere that does part of the processing locals might send it there – where it is cheaper, has less pervasive regulation, and where dipshit hippies aren’t gluing themselves to machine because pigs are people too.

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 4:42 pm

Moles can’t link, lol.

Must be the tiny feet.

Zatara
Zatara
July 20, 2022 4:43 pm

Latest non-news item according to the major press.

Protests paralyze Panama’s capital after negotiations fail

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 4:43 pm

I could never understand it. Artie – the old blogger at the old Cat- used to find Bug Eyes cute. I find her revolting.
Okay, this is made-up but it’s not really far off the mark.

Get a load of this. Obviously a play on her fake arrest.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 4:45 pm

Zat, Dude!

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 4:45 pm

These guys have a good list of Aussie pork retailers.

If in doubt, steer clear.

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 4:47 pm

China in Focus – NTD
00:53 China Reacts to Possible Pelosi Trip to Taiwan
02:35 FBI, DHS Still Buying Chinese Drones
04:56 U.S.: Satellite System to Track Hypersonic Weapons
06:45 Senators Advance Bill to Boost U.S. Microchip Making
09:55 U.S. Lawmakers Press for Semiconductor Bill
11:10 A Closer Look: China Competition Bill’s Controversy

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 4:49 pm

Gary’s Meats (Prahran market) is not on the list, Calli. It’s therefore not a good list.

Frank
Frank
July 20, 2022 4:50 pm

Why are we importing “pork products” from China

Bought some peanut butter the other day which had the kangaroo logo on it. Reading it at home the small print said made from less than 10% Australian ingredients. Turns out the peanuts were from South America and the salt (the only other ingredient) was from here.

Zatara
Zatara
July 20, 2022 4:51 pm

Howdy JC.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 20, 2022 4:51 pm

Moles can’t link, lol.

Must be the tiny feet.

Would you believe it was a warning link??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAzQ7Pn0Bbc

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 4:52 pm

LOL!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 20, 2022 4:53 pm

Coles have their own brand Australian bacon products.

Ah, yes. ‘Coles Assie Bacun’.

Weren’t they the ones who got busted a few years ago passing off bread from Ireland as Australian? (I still do not know how. Did they import dough frozen? Frozen loaves?)

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 4:55 pm

Zat , are you in the US or oz these days?

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 4:56 pm

It’s a list. It might be an incomplete list but it’s something rather than nothing.

My local butcher isn’t on it either. He says his bacon is Aussie…hmmmm…

*squints suspiciously*

Frank
Frank
July 20, 2022 4:57 pm

Apart from the covid jabs the average chemist would be 90% full of crap made in China which doesn’t bode well for anyone worried about sterility, birth defects or carcinogens. Good luck trying to find out where things like vitamins are sourced from.

Roger
Roger
July 20, 2022 4:57 pm

You can buy Australian bacon, but at a premium. Fork out more and it’s yours to take home and enjoy.

Maybe at a butcher shop.

Local butchers in these parts stock locally produced pork products; sometimes cheaper than the supermarkets too.

Ditto lamb & beef.

All of it comes from within a c. 100km radius.

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 4:57 pm

That bread is par baked in Ireland and finished off here. Cheats.

Zatara
Zatara
July 20, 2022 4:59 pm

I’m in DeSantis country JC

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 5:00 pm

Parkes Shire Council is pleased to announce that they are hosting Beau Williams and Bruce Pascoe at the Parkes Library & Cultural Centre on Tuesday 26 July 2022 from 6-7.30pm, for the First Languages Australia talk.

I would bepizz myself laughing if some genuine Aborigines showed up and exposed Pascoe for the fraud he is – I’ve seen the blazing contempt of “fullbloods” for faux “Aborigines,” and it was an experience best described as enlightening…..

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 5:00 pm

I’m in DeSantis country JC

Oh, so you’re in heaven on earth then. 🙂

John of Mel
John of Mel
July 20, 2022 5:00 pm

Local butchers in these parts stock locally produced pork products; sometimes cheaper than the supermarkets too.

That’s awesome.
For us going to a butcher shop is a treat. In our area they are all more expensive than supermarkets for some reason.

Roger
Roger
July 20, 2022 5:02 pm

For us going to a butcher shop is a treat. In our area they are all more expensive than supermarkets for some reason.

Big city rents must play a part.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 20, 2022 5:05 pm

bern

Seriously, it’s like the corporate media enjoy being spoon-fed narratives.

They like government advertising even more. Challenge the oh-so-precious “narrative”, and watch their share go elsewhere.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 5:06 pm

Zipster:

Now with a large number of orders moving out of China, the textile and apparel industry in China is experiencing unprecedented challenges in more than 20 years.

China is now reaping the results of not dealing with the corruption that is undermining its entire economy.
From dumping chemicals in rivers, forcing near slave labour wages, to corruption in building projects, the economy is starting to collapse as the costs begin to mount.
And we needn’t look too smug either. Our economies aren’t that far behind China that we can be complacent.
Root out the corruptocrats and the institutions that enable their graft, or our kids will pay the price.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 5:08 pm

@ Mole-

If your 4 year old is up to seeing them, we are steaming at Bassendean on the Open Day on October 9th. And then at Boyanup on the 24th of October and 28th of November.

All Sunday dates, if they fall at the right times for you… 🙂

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 20, 2022 5:09 pm

Thanks for the link Calli @04:45pm.

Why the fark we would be importing pork products from China has got me farked.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 5:11 pm

forcing near slave labour wages

Turtlehead is now a labor market economist. The RBA uses him to do labor market research.

to corruption in building projects,

He also doubles as a construction engineer called all over the world to review construction projects.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 20, 2022 5:13 pm

m0ntysays:
July 20, 2022 at 12:57 pm
Only three civilian deaths!

That’s apparently a win in some quarters.

Man who Neutralized Greenwood Mall Shooter Did in 15 Seconds What 376 Law Enforcement Officers in Uvalde Couldn’t Do in 77 Minutes

As my colleague Alex Parker explained, the killer came loaded for bear.

The shooter was armed with a Sig Sauer 400M 5.56-caliber rifle.
He had a Smith & Wesson M&P 15 5.56 on reserve in the restroom.
A Glock 33 .357 pistol was on his person.
He was armed with over 100 rounds.
He’d been frequently practicing at a range for the past two years.

The killer went into the bathroom near the food court, preparing for the attack. When he finally came out and started shooting, Dicken saw him and his rifle from 40 yards away and immediately understood what was happening. The shooter shot and killed three people. He injured two. The initial police report was that it took Dicken two minutes to respond to the shooter. But that wasn’t true. The police just corrected that. Dicken neutralized the shooter within 15 seconds of him starting to shoot, an astounding reaction, doubtless saving countless other lives.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 5:14 pm

Barking Toad says:
July 20, 2022 at 5:09 pm

Thanks for the link Calli @04:45pm.

Why the fark we would be importing pork products from China has got me farked.

BK

I don’t know for certain and have either read was told this. There are some heavy duty regulations applied to pork and chicken farms in Australia. Obviously, it’s about cost and the cost of these regs among other things are wrecking the sector.

We’re destroying ourselves with ‘vironmental regs.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 5:14 pm

Dover, Akismet’s got me again.

Apparently I can’t tell folks what dates a local Perth museum will be showing off its hardware for the public.

What is this place? YouTube?

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 5:15 pm

From dumping chemicals in rivers, forcing near slave labour wages, to corruption in building projects, the economy is starting to collapse as the costs begin to mount.

its a command economy, it can’t collapse. there might be revolution, but the ccp has its boot on the neck of the population, thats unlikely either

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 20, 2022 5:16 pm

Franksays:
July 20, 2022 at 4:50 pm
Why are we importing “pork products” from China

Bought some peanut butter the other day which had the kangaroo logo on it. Reading it at home the small print said made from less than 10% Australian ingredients. Turns out the peanuts were from South America and the salt (the only other ingredient) was from here.

Jo Bjelke-Petersen rolls in his grave.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 5:18 pm

What is this place? YouTube?

(Okay- I’m actually surprised Akismet didn’t hammer that one, too.

Who wants to play Akismet-Roulette? 😀 )

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 5:19 pm

Zip,

Xi is slowly turning into a command economy, but it’s not at this moment and wasn’t before that creature took the reigns. I’d argue that in some ways, it’s actually more open than our economy. Chinese labor in the free market is nowhere near as regulated as ours. There’s no such thing as the bullshit “wages theft” we have to contend with and the huge number of labor rates we have to adhere to.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 20, 2022 5:19 pm

I’m in DeSantis country JC

Oh, so you’re in heaven on earth then. ?

It wasn’t that long ago that most people thought that California was where you went for excitement and Florida a nice somnolent place where your life gently ticks away like an old watch until it finally lacks the energy to push the second hand one more tick.

Now…

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 20, 2022 5:19 pm

Country of origin labelling in China is more accurate than it is here in Australia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 5:20 pm

‘Consciousness of guilt’: Nine’s swipe at Ben Roberts-Smith

Perry Duffin
Senior Court Reporter
@perryduffin1
2 min read
July 20, 2022 – 3:56PM
NCA NewsWire

Ben Roberts-Smith trial: Nine’s ‘deals’ with SAS witnesses

Nine newspapers have taken their most aggressive swipe closing their court case against Ben Roberts-Smith claiming the elite soldier showed a “consciousness of guilt” when he and four other soldiers allegedly “colluded” to lie about a war crime allegation.

The marathon defamation trial, launched by Mr Roberts-Smith in 2018, is now in its final days in Sydney’s Federal Court.

Mr Roberts-Smith claims Nine newspapers falsely painted him as a war criminal in articles alleging he killed, or ordered the execution, of six unarmed Afghans while deployed with the SAS.

Nine insists the articles are true, and the Victoria Cross recipient is a murderer, while Mr Roberts-Smith denies every claim.

His legal team made an emotional appeal for Justice Anthony Besanko to restore the good name of a war hero, and a human being who has suffered “soul-crushing” false allegations, and resist claims it was a proxy war crime trial or attack on the free press.

The newspapers’ barrister, Nicholas Owens SC, struck a different tone in his closing speech with a granular focus on contradictions and legal principles raised in the evidence of the dozens of SAS witnesses.

Then, on Wednesday, he changed gears.

Mr Owens accused Mr Roberts-Smith, and his closest allies, of conspiring to mislead the court with false evidence about one of Nine’s murder allegations.

“Mr Roberts-Smith was either the architect or the knowing beneficiary of this dishonest collusion,” Mr Owens said.

“He was the one who stood to gain from it and, ultimately, he was the one responsible for the decision to call those witnesses to lead that evidence from them.”

Mr Owens told the court Mr Roberts-Smith’s behaviour was a sign the elite soldier knew he was guilty.

“All of that is conduct from which Your Honour can infer a consciousness of guilt,” he said.

The collusion or “the lie”, as Mr Owens alleged, involved Mr Roberts-Smith and four of his witnesses all telling the court that one of Nine’s war crime allegations simply could not have happened because of a shot dog.

Nine alleged Mr Roberts-Smith, in late 2012, was questioning captive Afghans in the village of Chenartu when another SAS soldier kicked a wall and discovered a cache of weapons.

Mr Roberts-Smith, Nine claims, ordered a commander of the Afghan Partner Force to have one of the captives killed.

The Afghan commander, known as Person 12, ordered one of his men to execute a captive, Nine alleges.

Mr Roberts-Smith totally denies that allegation.

He was one of five soldiers present at Chenartu who told the court, in documents, that Person 12 was not even at Chenartu because he had shot a dog and the bullet ricocheted before injuring an Australian soldier weeks earlier.

The evidence of the five men would have destroyed Nine’s murder allegation but it wasn’t correct, the court has heard.

Photographs and other documents, shown only in closed court, are said to prove it was a different Afghan soldier who had shot the dog and Person 12 was still working with the SAS at the time of the Chenartu raid.

The trial’s closing continues.

WTF is a “consciousness of guilt?”

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 20, 2022 5:21 pm

Zipstersays:
July 20, 2022 at 5:15 pm
From dumping chemicals in rivers, forcing near slave labour wages, to corruption in building projects, the economy is starting to collapse as the costs begin to mount.

its a command economy, it can’t collapse. there might be revolution, but the ccp has its boot on the neck of the population, thats unlikely either

That’s what the East Germans, Poles, Romanians and other communist countries thought in the late-1980s too.

Frank
Frank
July 20, 2022 5:27 pm

WTF is a “consciousness of guilt?”

He looks guilty.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 5:28 pm

Country of origin labelling in China is more accurate than it is here in Australia.

Yep Bern.

I really don’t get why people are like systemically shocked that China exports meat products particularly pork as I believe China is the biggest pork producer in the world. It surprised me for a second until I thought about it but I wasn’t shocked.

One of the smallest nations in Europe by land area ( Netherlands) is also a huge agri exporter.

We just elected a Liar’s Party government and Zip (himself) reported that the horridly stupid dingbat, Madam Tanya, is looking to increase the number of marine parks around the continent when almost the entire perimeter is a fucking marine park. That’s just an example of what we are contending with. And no, the Libs are no better, but neither are a disturbing number of Australians voters who put those stupid teal tarts in Parliament.

Walker
Walker
July 20, 2022 5:29 pm

“Coles Australian Made Thin Sliced Streaky Bacon
Made in Australia from at least 98% Australian ingredients
Coles Own Brand pork, ham and bacon products solid (sic) in our supermarkets are Sow Stall Free . Always sourced from Australian farms
NGREDIENTS: Australian Sow Stall Free Pork (90%), Water, Salt, Sugar, Mineral Salts (451, 450), Antioxidant (316), Preservative (250). Wood Smoked.”

I have no particular regard for Coles and I do remember them trying to pass off the Irish bread as freshly baked, but if this is all lies I would have thought they’d have been found out by now.

Tom
Tom
July 20, 2022 5:31 pm

WTF is a “consciousness of guilt?”

It’s the fantasy you manufacture when you know you’re about to lose (because Nein’s lawyers were forbidden from interfering in the staff’s ideological warfare against their political enemies).

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 20, 2022 5:32 pm

JCsays:
July 20, 2022 at 5:14 pm
Barking Toad says:
July 20, 2022 at 5:09 pm

Thanks for the link Calli @04:45pm.

Why the fark we would be importing pork products from China has got me farked.

BK

I don’t know for certain and have either read was told this. There are some heavy duty regulations applied to pork and chicken farms in Australia. Obviously, it’s about cost and the cost of these regs among other things are wrecking the sector.

We’re destroying ourselves with ‘vironmental regs.

Where’s the beef? Held back by the USDA

How can it be that with so much cattle in America, we sometimes can’t buy meat?

At the beginning of the pandemic, Costco, Wegmans and Kroger limited purchases of beef. Hundreds of Wendy’s outlets ran out of hamburgers.

“How the hell can this be?” says Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) in my new video. “They [Wendy’s] were out of hamburger, yet you could see cattle from the drive-thru!”

It happens because of stupid government rules.

During the beginning of the pandemic, it was that market concentration that caused meat shortages when a few big meat processing plants shut down due to COVID infections.

“We made our food supply brittle,” says Massie. “One small disruption throws the whole thing off.”

When the processors shut down, some ranchers who couldn’t get to a federally approved slaughterhouse ended up killing their own animals. If only they’d been able to go to a local processor.

Massie takes his cattle to one. There, he can see the conditions himself. His local slaughterhouse meets state inspection standards.

But since it is not USDA-certified, Massie and other ranchers who have their cattle processed there may not sell you a steak. He can, however, give it to you or eat it himself. But he may not sell it.

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 5:33 pm

I’m not particularly surprised that the Chinese are exporting pork, just that we’d be buying it.

And when they say “pork products” in a warehouse, my immediate thought goes to processed goods like sausages, salami and the like. For FMD “fragments” to survive on this sort of product beggars belief.

Unless it’s fresh meat.

Indolent
Indolent
July 20, 2022 5:34 pm

I doubt he appreciates it. All it does is show him up.

Biden owes DeSantis, big time

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 5:35 pm

Be amazed because I am too.

The Netherlands is the third largest agri exporter in the world by dollars. Absolutely amazing place. The densest nation in Europe and the third biggest agri exporter. When I say that population size is purely a function of technology, I’m right. The Netherlands proves my point. Never let anyone get away with the crap that we’re overpopulated.

https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/0712/top-agricultural-producing-countries.aspx

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 20, 2022 5:36 pm

There are some heavy duty regulations applied to pork and chicken farms in Australia.

Ive mentioned before Ive examined doing a little sideline in black chooks.

Little problem.
It would, conservatively, cost me $40,000 to import fertilized eggs and put them through Australian quarantine.

Heres some of the actions from the import page.
Booking the facility
On or before 30 April for bookings in the following two calendar years
….
Apply for import permit
Six (6) months prior to import

Submit operational plan to government facility manager for approval
At least four (4) weeks prior to import

Advise the Australian Centre for Disease Preparedness (ACDP – formerly AAHL) of the testing schedule
At least four (4) weeks prior to import

Submit a Notice of Intent to import fertile hatching eggs (NOI) form

Include the transport plan and transport contingency plan for movement of the eggs from port of arrival to the facility.

Note: If egg boxes will be moved individually at any stage of transport until entry into the post-arrival quarantine facility in Australia, the first air container packing option in Health Certificate 1 (boxes to be individually placed in plastic bags or have plastic lining) must be used. The import permit holder must make the exporter aware of which packing option is required based on the transfer arrangements to be used in Australia.
1-2 weeks prior to import

Submit the NOI Appendix A: Pre-export compliance statement and any necessary attachments (e.g. laboratory reports) for pre-export compliance assessment prior to uplift.

The department will not provide approval for the eggs to be uplifted until satisfied that pre-export compliance has been demonstrated.
At least three (3) working days prior to scheduled uplift

Submit the final complete first veterinary health certificate fully endorsed by the Official Veterinarian.
On arrival at airport^ or government quarantine isolation facility

Submit the second veterinary health certificate

Prior to hatch

Importers are advised that they are required to pay all costs associated with the importation and quarantine of imported eggs, hatched birds and sentinels. Fertile eggs are a high-risk commodity. Importers will be required to pay all costs, even in the event that the consignment does not meet import requirements, is diseased and/or needs to be euthanized and disposed of.

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 5:39 pm

But since it is not USDA-certified, Massie and other ranchers who have their cattle processed there may not sell you a steak. He can, however, give it to you or eat it himself. But he may not sell it.

Same situation here. Curtis Springs just off the Stuart Highway had their own abattoir. Processed on the spot, no stress of transport for animals, good quality meat. Along comes “government” and shuts them down.

Now the animals are loaded, shipped far away in all weathers and processed. Then they can buy meat back to serve in their restaurant.

Idiocy and cruelty and high costs – that’s government for you.

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 5:40 pm

Curtin

Frank
Frank
July 20, 2022 5:40 pm

Madam Tanya, is looking to increase the number of marine parks around the continent when almost the entire perimeter is a fucking marine park.

She is just saving it for when the Chinese fishermen get around to plundering it, ALDI bags and all.

Frank
Frank
July 20, 2022 5:41 pm

Must be beat the Chinese day.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 20, 2022 5:41 pm

CEF, controlled environment farming.
Allows you to grow the highest margin products & not worry about the weather.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 5:41 pm

But since it is not USDA-certified, Massie and other ranchers who have their cattle processed there may not sell you a steak. He can, however, give it to you or eat it himself. But he may not sell it.

And that’s how they had their baby formula debacle, too.

Regulations too hard, byzantine and expensive for all but the biggest and best-connected. Combined with a semi-absent bureaucracy (covid rules, baby! Nobody here! :D) and a knee-jerk reaction to stop an entire factory’s production over three baby deaths from suspected bacterial contamination that was subsequently found to be from the domestic water used to prepare their feeds.

A terrible enough outcome for those three families, but beyond proportion for everyone else affected by the bureaucrats.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
July 20, 2022 5:42 pm

Glowball warming!

It was 37C in Durham UK yesterday where England and Serf Effrica played a ODI cricket match.

No deaths reported, but have a go at all the “cooling down” precautions taken by Durham Cricket authorities. Gasping for air.

There were many many bright red Poms in the crowd (Saffas won by 65 runs)

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 20, 2022 5:43 pm

Australia.
Good food, good weather (usually).
Not much more than that going on.

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 5:44 pm

That’s what the East Germans, Poles, Romanians and other communist countries thought in the late-1980s too.

They are all small fry compared to china so where the soviets. china is preping for war, which will mean a total breakdown of western supply chains. A little pain reorganising is expected. ppl have been predicting china collapse since I can remember. It has learnt from the mistakes of the ussr. Just enough capitalism under absolute state power. The only way china can collapse is if the people rise up against the ccp. No chance of that.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 20, 2022 5:44 pm
calli
calli
July 20, 2022 5:47 pm

It’s a couple of years old, but the Netherlands has a really interesting agricultural export mix.

Germany is the largest international consumer of Dutch bio-products (€23.6 billion), followed by Belgium (€10.8 billion), the UK (€8.7 billion), and France (€7.7 billion). Ornamental plants and flowers are the hottest export items for the Netherlands, raking in about €5.8 billion in 2019. Dairy products, eggs, meat, and vegetables profit over €3.5 billion each. Overall, agricultural exports generated a whopping €94.5 billion for the Dutch economy last year.

That’s a lot of tulips! 😀

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 5:49 pm

The stuff of nightmares

What we all saw in Victoria over the last two years came pretty close. Those Victorian police officers behaved like they had the moral compass of squat, mindless robots.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 5:51 pm

calli, I first read that as Neanderthals!

John H.
John H.
July 20, 2022 5:53 pm

Privacy gone too far:

A friend I have known since I was 12 years old was admitted to hospital on the weekend. I spoke to him on Monday and could tell by his voice and language that he is in very bad shape. I rang today but it went to answering machine. Today I rang the hospital for an update but they won’t release any information because I’m not a relative. He’s dying, I know that, and because he is in ICU I can’t see him. His relatives cannot contact me(unless they can hack his phone). So he could die and I won’t even know about it Effing hell this is frustrating.

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 5:53 pm

Don’t diss dem Neanderthals! I have red head children. 🙂

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
July 20, 2022 5:53 pm

Just got a call from the bloke I shared a room with at the ski club lodge over the weekend. He has the spicy cough and wanted to let me know. He’s a bit of a chardonnay socialist and said “I don’t understand how I’ve got it, I’ve had 4 shots.” I said “maybe it’s because they were designed for variants that no longer exist.” I may have created a light bulb moment.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 5:54 pm

Zip

The US could easily “collapse” China. Take a look at a map. China access to raw materials and energy is very tightly condensed to relatively narrow sea lanes. This is why the fuckers are really antsy about those silly islands they’ve “manufactured” in the South China Sea. Most of them are currently sinking.

The US submarine fleet would just have to ensure those sea lanes are blocked and China is totally fucked. I wouldn’t put a war with China at zero, but I really don’t think it’s too high.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 6:00 pm

Are any of the teal tarts attractive at least?

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 6:03 pm

NATO is around 66% of the world’s military power. China is not going to fuck with that.

Indolent
Indolent
July 20, 2022 6:04 pm
JC
JC
July 20, 2022 6:04 pm

We should join NATO along with Japan and Sth Korea. The more the better.

John H.
John H.
July 20, 2022 6:06 pm
bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 6:07 pm

Lucky I’m to lazy to look, JC. But I am sure you said AOC was hot.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 6:07 pm

Trump certainly stood up to the Chicoms which was another reason the politico-meja establishment wanted him gone

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 20, 2022 6:07 pm

JC at 5:14.
Exactly.
Activists insisting on sows being given a two bedroom apartment with water views have killed it.
Ship the industry off to China where they will be certified free range, sow stall free, organic, home-schooled, you name it.
And guess what?
No activist will dare question Chinese certification.

Frank
Frank
July 20, 2022 6:10 pm

Are any of the teal tarts attractive at least?

Surly pooches.

calli
calli
July 20, 2022 6:12 pm

Looks like the FMD warehouse product was some sort of packaged, “cooked” meat. Hmmmmmm…

The other from Indonesia was some creature bringing in raw meat. Did they imagine it couldn’t be bought here?

Tom
Tom
July 20, 2022 6:14 pm

Amazing. The name BSA motorcycles stands for Birmingham Small Arms Company Ltd.

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 6:15 pm

The US could easily “collapse” China

We were talking about internal economic collapse, not a war. In any event china is preparing for the latter.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 6:16 pm

Many Chinese ‘companies’ are owned by the CCP.

eg

China Communications Construction Company, Ltd. (CCCC) is a majority state-owned, publicly traded, multinational engineering and construction company primarily engaged in the design, construction and operation of infrastructure assets, including highways, bridges, tunnels, railways (especially high-speed rail), subways, airports, oil platforms, and marine ports. CCCC has been a contractor for numerous Belt and Road Initiative projects.

which now fucking owns John Holland

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 6:16 pm

The other from Indonesia was some creature bringing in raw meat. Did they imagine it couldn’t be bought here?

You clearly don’t watch enough Australian Border Patrol or whatever it is on telly… 😉

John of Mel
John of Mel
July 20, 2022 6:18 pm

Are any of the teal tarts attractive at least?

TEALS driving TESLA are not attractive in the LEAST.
Some letter recycling there.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 6:19 pm

They can never win the war, Zip. They would be history. It would be a NATO vs China war they could never win. The US would engineer it in a way to invoke NATO.

You know what would fuck China and send them around the bend? Australia, Sth Korea, Japan and, and wait for it… Taiwan joining the NATO alliance. The fuckers would go apeshit.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 6:19 pm

I know I keep going on about this, but Howard’s treachery by giving Australia Michael Trumble really is unforgivable. Was it not Trumble who signed us up to all that Paris crap?

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 6:20 pm

Fellas, forget the Teal politics. Any port in the storm on a late Friday night. Are any of them well… fuckable? I’m sorry if it sounds coarse.

John of Mel
John of Mel
July 20, 2022 6:21 pm

It would be a NATO vs China war they could never win.

I wish it was true, JC. But NATO couldn’t even win a war against some goat herders in Afghanistan.

John of Mel
John of Mel
July 20, 2022 6:24 pm

Fellas, forget the Teal politics. Any port in the storm on a late Friday night. Are any of them well… fuckable?

What does your wife think?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 20, 2022 6:26 pm

On dodgy imported food.

I have horrid visions of elderly, tubercular ladies coughing and spluttering while hand peeling the prawns that are then frozen and imported and labelled ‘Packed in Australia from Imported Ingredients‘. These visions are strong enough to turn me into a domestic tyrant on the subject of cheap prawns.

RacerX
RacerX
July 20, 2022 6:28 pm

So we are supposed to believe that a trace gas in the atmosphere at 400 parts per 1,000,000 has caused record heat in the UK. If only the remaining 999,600 parts per million was at 999,800 parts per million the weather there would be much cooler.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 20, 2022 6:29 pm

And ‘Product of China’ garlic.
Don’t ask about the growing medium.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
July 20, 2022 6:50 pm

Ballet has been dropped from auditions at leading dance schools as staff say it is rooted in “white European ideas”.

The Northern School of Contemporary Dance (NSCD), which aims to be a “progressive institution”, has reviewed the “elitist” art form as part of a diversity drive that has seen the introduction of new policies relating to gender and race.

Ballet has been ditched as a requirement for school-entry auditions because of its “contentious nature”, with teaching staff explaining that the traditional mode of dance comes with the baggage of “white European ideas”.

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 6:50 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
July 20, 2022 6:53 pm

Changing the subject completely: About 12 hours early but it is July 20th. Fifty three years ago, for the first time and forever, men from Earth walked on another world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP8C3xeC3Eo

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 6:55 pm
Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 6:55 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 20, 2022 7:01 pm

The record was nine bridesmaids, nine groomsmen, and the bride “cleared out” three years later.

Nup. Might be my darling adopted Singhalese niece. Indian wedding, 2 weddings, first one Hindu the second one Christian; the second wedding with twelve bridesmaids, twelve groomsmen, 150 international attendees and the bride left him after a year.

Cultural differences. She was an Aussie girl. He was less of an Aussie bloke than she thought.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 7:01 pm

About 12 hours early but it is July 20th. Fifty three years ago, for the first time and forever, men from Earth walked on another world.

Great grandmother was born in the year of Custer’s Last Stand. She watched the moon landings..

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 20, 2022 7:02 pm

$109.99 Wow!

I can be a bit of a sucker for layout tools, but not for US$109.99.
And particularly not when:

This product has an estimated ship date January 31, 2023.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 7:02 pm

John of Mel:

I haven’t seen Australian made bacon in supermarkets for the last few years.

Gilly’s Pork and Ham
The only stuff I will buy.
When bacon is marked as <10% Australian product, you can't be sure.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 20, 2022 7:05 pm

Changing the subject completely: About 12 hours early but it is July 20th. Fifty three years ago, for the first time and forever, men from Earth walked on another world.

Yes. My birthday date is auspicious for this, and also for another reason: on the 20th of July 1944, when I was turning two, Hitler was nearly placed in his grave, which sadly had to wait for a while after that.

It was known a Von Stauffenberg’s July 20 plot. It failed, as we know. Over 4500 people were murdered in retribution by Hitler for it.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 7:05 pm

Old Bloke:

Serious question, why aren’t we seeing people hanging from the street lamps yet?

I give in, I’ll play your stupid bloody game. Why the Hell aren’t we seeing people hanging from the street lamps yet?

Crossie
Crossie
July 20, 2022 7:06 pm

This kerfuffle over Barilaro’s failed job in New York is just mystifying. Jobs for the boys have been happening my entire life with Labor being the bigger offenders and yet we are supposed to care.

Can the media now stop with the pearl clutching and hyperventilating. I don’t care.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 20, 2022 7:09 pm

Serious question, why aren’t we seeing people hanging from the street lamps yet?

Short answer – because we haven’t turned into wild animals yet.

And I hope we never do.

I’m an animal, and getting wilder about what’s happening. It’s a purely rational calculation for me. If hanging a thousand parasites would reverse the collapse of the West, it would be a great deal.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 7:10 pm

It’s only ok if Labor-Greens do it Crossie.

Vicki
Vicki
July 20, 2022 7:12 pm

An interesting post on Jo Nova’s blog refers to a theory in respect to the alleged success of the vaccines in preventing serious illness after contracting Covid. :

“….. the Mensa debating forum reveals just how the jab works. The evidence is emerging that the only protection that the mRNA jab gives you from Covid, is by suppressing your immune system to protect you from the allergic reaction. The same protection children get from having an immature immune system. Something called a cytokine storm which results in rapid deterioration of lung function is in fact an allergic reaction to fragments of spike protein, as the virus is killed off. It occurs on average, on the 8th day after the first onset of symptoms and is unrelated to the severity of the initial infection. Death occurs on average a couple of weeks later. Its why children with an immature immune system are not effected. So this immaturity is replicated by the mRNA jab of adults. There is evidence the mRNA jabbed immune system is degraded by the mRNA jab, making the mRNA jabbed more susceptible to other viruses, but giving them a few weeks protection from death, until their immune system recovers. Then they get a second jab, a third jab and so on, each jab protects them from the cytokine storm, but brings them closer to death from every other cause of death.”

This observation regarding the the allergic reaction to the spike via the cytokine storm on the 8th day is exactly what Dr. Shankara Chetty found in many patients.

It seems logical that the apparent “protection” of the vaccines from serious development is related to the suppression of this reaction. However, if that is provided at the expense of a diminished immune health in relation to subsequent infections – to hell with that. Shankara & others have found that steroids, aspirin and even anti-histamines can control the allergic reaction of the 8th day.

Crossie
Crossie
July 20, 2022 7:13 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
July 20, 2022 at 7:01 pm
About 12 hours early but it is July 20th. Fifty three years ago, for the first time and forever, men from Earth walked on another world.
Great grandmother was born in the year of Custer’s Last Stand. She watched the moon landings..

Now that is something. I also consider me learning to use the old style typewriter in 1973 and 40 years later possessing the miracle device of smartphone that not only replaced that typewriter but every communication device before it – telegraph, telephone, telegram, radio and television.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 7:14 pm

MiltonF:

I’d like to know why the fuck we are importing food from China.

Because the people who infest the upper echelons of the companies that used to provide jobs and product from Australia realised their bonuses would be higher importing cheap and dodgy shit while trading on the old brand name, sacking their supply chain here and getting rid of 80% of their workforce was way more profitable.
The model has been used to hollow out our industry while leaving in place middlemen who are now buying Alfa Romeos and complaining about servicing costs while waiting on spare parts from European Manufacturers who have outsourced to China.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 20, 2022 7:15 pm

My eighty summer’s birthday has extended now for more than a week of celebrations with the last one being on Friday for another lunch, girlfriends only. Hairy has just now extended things into next week too, for he has booked us in to see Il Trovatore. Ole.

We’ve just returned from a family dinner last night on the south coast and a lunch today.
My phone has been running hot. Two little grandies from Brisbane rang to say they were baking a cake for me when we come up for the eldest girl’s birthday (she’s eight!) in ten days time. The six year old was bursting with enthusiasm to tell me a very ‘rude’ joke: What do you call a dinosaur’s fart, grandma? A blast from the past! she exclaims excitedly before I can think of a response. I read it in the newspaper, she tells me proudly. That’s very clever, I say advisedly.

Newspapers have changed a bit since my day.

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 7:18 pm

Shankara & others have found that steroids, aspirin and even anti-histamines can control the allergic reaction of the 8th day.

The COVID-19 Treatment Conspiracy – How millions of lives were lost
The most important COVID-19 breakthrough occured in June 2020 through the RECOVERY trial (Oxford) by identifying dexamethasone..

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 7:18 pm

Calli:

Serious question, why aren’t we seeing people hanging from the street lamps yet?

Short answer – because we haven’t turned into wild animals yet.
And I hope we never do.

I also hope that we never do, but what do you think will happen when the grid goes down?
You need to prepare for the possibility.

Roger
Roger
July 20, 2022 7:20 pm

This kerfuffle over Barilaro’s failed job in New York is just mystifying. Jobs for the boys have been happening my entire life with Labor being the bigger offenders and yet we are supposed to care.

I’m enjoying it.

When it comes to political troughers getting a well deserved public comeuppance I’m an equal opportunity kind of guy.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 20, 2022 7:22 pm

If you haven’t seen the CNN made movie “Apollo 11”, do so. Outstanding film making using all original footage. The moment the movement stops and Eagle has landed is remarkable.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 7:22 pm

Yes you’re right Roger- Barilarlo turned out to be a complete phony- a state government version of Joyce.

Vicki
Vicki
July 20, 2022 7:23 pm

Incidentally, although I know that many abhor anecdotal evidence, this one unnerved me:

Much loved grandson yesterday reported that he and another saved a mate’s life a day ago by administering CPR when he stopped breathing suddenly in their college accomodation. He said, in his words, the mate (19 years old) suffered a heart attack.

As most of you could predict, I once again counselled the beloved grandson NOT to have a booster. And yes, like my grandson, the afflicted boy is an athlete.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 7:26 pm

Barnaby Joyce on Bolt talking about what the result of the reduction of emissions will be for food prices etc here.

This bloke has no credibility on this subject unless he denounces his deliberate and conscious sell-out of the nation for the thirty pieces of silver of increased funding to the bush that the Nats received when he supported Morrison’s trek to, and supplication at, the altar of global warming last year at Glasgow.

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 7:28 pm

The evidence is emerging that the only protection that the mRNA jab gives you from Covid, is by suppressing your immune system to protect you from the allergic reaction.

interesting I posted something to that effect back in april

Zipstersays:
April 29, 2022 at 8:55 am

is also at a juncture where she diesn’t want to get jabbed a third time, having suffered inflammatory reaction which has her hardly able to use her left arm,

I am slowly coming to the conclusion that the mRNA jabs only cause an muddled allergic reaction, while the virus vector jabs may actually provide some sort of longer term immunity.

the immune system seems to know the difference between a toxin and a virus.

Vicki
Vicki
July 20, 2022 7:28 pm

The most important COVID-19 breakthrough occured in June 2020 through the RECOVERY trial (Oxford) by identifying dexamethasone..

Zipster that was some considerable time ago. Prednisone has long replaced Dexamethasone as the steroid of choice in many ICUs.

It is also now believed by many frontline physicians that steroids should be withheld in the early stages of Covid. I don’t really understand why.

And BTW I think many of the same frontline physicians will still vow that Ivermectin is the drug of choice, and has led to recovery of patients that many hospitals had failed to help.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 7:32 pm

Joyce has just been one let down and betrayal after another- for starters, he should have refused to serve under Trumble

shatterzzz
July 20, 2022 7:32 pm

It was 37C in Durham UK yesterday where England and Serf Effrica played a ODI cricket match.

Gotta laff ..! As a kid growing up in County Durham we used to count any days you could take your jumper off as a “hot” Summer’s day .. generally, about 5 times, usually, in August ! LOL!
If it wasn’t blowing a gale straight off the North Sea, “Hughie” sayin, “Hi”, or lotza “white stuff” .. it was SUMMER .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/MG2StzY

Crossie
Crossie
July 20, 2022 7:32 pm

miltonf says:
July 20, 2022 at 4:24 pm
I will never be in the same room with that foul, squeaky voice on. Either it goes off or I leave. It’s like Orwell’s telescreen- piping foul marxist poison at you where ever you go.

I haven’t watched Sunrise/Kochie since 2007 when that moron Joe Hockey appeared on that program with Kevni not realising that by doing so he was enhancing Rudd’s credibility and thus making him electable.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 20, 2022 7:33 pm

Yes. My birthday date is auspicious for this, and also for another reason: on the 20th of July 1944, when I was turning two

Wow, you were 19 when i was 2 days old.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 7:35 pm

so is Hockey a WEF ‘young leader’?

Old bloke
Old bloke
July 20, 2022 7:36 pm

Winston Smith says:
July 20, 2022 at 7:05 pm

I give in, I’ll play your stupid bloody game. Why the Hell aren’t we seeing people hanging from the street lamps yet?

Because we’re a civilised people who believe in Laura Norder (channelling Calli).

shatterzzz
July 20, 2022 7:38 pm

his kerfuffle over Barilaro’s failed job in New York is just mystifying. Jobs for the boys have been happening my entire life with Labor being the bigger offenders and yet we are supposed to care.

The downside is this is just a media “3 days ” event .. by the weekend it’ll be off the radar and 2 maybe 3 months down the track there’ll be a small snippet in the “mediocre” section of the news mentioning his appointment to some other well-paid “maaates” position ….!
It’s how the “club” worx and nuttin’ is gonna change it … !

Cassie of Sydney
July 20, 2022 7:40 pm

“Short answer – because we haven’t turned into wild animals yet.

And I hope we never do.”

Agree calli, but I’ve said here before, given what we’ve endured over the last two and a half years, the manufactured fear, the Covid tyranny, the trampling of our rights and freedoms, the sneering hypocrisy from elites who enjoy thumbing their noses at ordinary Australians, I now understand how revolutions happen and I now understand how populations snap. Only the other night I had the misfortune to hear the sneering voice of that utterly revolting lesbian and all round parasitic cockroach, ABC hack Patricia Karvelas, bemoan the fact that last weekend she went to the snow to ski and at the ski lodge she was outraged by the fact that most people were not wearing masks.

You see, if I was to lose it I’d start with MSM scum like Karvelas.

Roger
Roger
July 20, 2022 7:40 pm

And while we’re on the topic, what a first rate nincompoop Perrottet’s turned out to be.

He may be a decent bloke in private, but politically he has no idea.

Cassie of Sydney
July 20, 2022 7:42 pm

“Barnaby Joyce on Bolt talking about what the result of the reduction of emissions will be for food prices etc here.

This bloke has no credibility on this subject unless he denounces his deliberate and conscious sell-out of the nation for the thirty pieces of silver of increased funding to the bush that the Nats received when he supported Morrison’s trek to, and supplication at, the altar of global warming last year at Glasgow.”

Well said BBS.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 20, 2022 7:44 pm

Great to see Kate Bush (super fox) is being discovered by a new generation with her song Running Up That Hill topping the charts after being used in the hit TV series Stranger Things.

I’ve pointed out to my kids that the current rubbish has no music behind the voice. You couldn’t identify the song if lyric was stripped away. The definition of formulaic shit music.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 7:45 pm

If Parrotet had been a proper Catholic, he would have resigned from the ministry when Gladishocklian brought in her barbaric abortion laws. The only Liberal who has actually stood up for principal is Bernie Finn.

Crossie
Crossie
July 20, 2022 7:47 pm

Zatara says:
July 20, 2022 at 4:43 pm
Latest non-news item according to the major press.

Protests paralyze Panama’s capital after negotiations fail

The thing is that the Third World may save the First World from themselves/ourselves. There is no spare fat in most developing countries so elevated oil and energy costs will bite much quicker and harder. When people have nothing to lose they tends to do desperate things like bring down their governments.

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 7:50 pm

You don’t want to live in a country in perpetual turmoil, ask my parents.
Still a lot to be thankful for and a chance to change things.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 7:51 pm

Good to see that people in Melbourne are turning off Virginia Trioli, Cassie. Maybe Karvelas will feel their opprobrium in similar portions to her distain for them.

Crossie
Crossie
July 20, 2022 7:52 pm

miltonf says:
July 20, 2022 at 7:45 pm
If Parrotet had been a proper Catholic, he would have resigned from the ministry when Gladishocklian brought in her barbaric abortion laws. The only Liberal who has actually stood up for principal is Bernie Finn.

Tanya Davies gave it all she had and lost a portfolio due to her opposition to the barbaric abortion law.

shatterzzz
July 20, 2022 7:55 pm

And this month’s DARWIN Award goes tooooo ……!
There’s penis enlargement gimmicks and then there’s this .. LOL!
https://www.facebook.com/465010963917466/photos/a.465032920581937/1527700630981822/

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 7:55 pm

Had forgotten about her Crossie. Thank you.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 7:55 pm

**proportions**

John H.
John H.
July 20, 2022 7:56 pm

Vickisays:
July 20, 2022 at 7:28 pm
The most important COVID-19 breakthrough occured in June 2020 through the RECOVERY trial (Oxford) by identifying dexamethasone..

Zipster that was some considerable time ago. Prednisone has long replaced Dexamethasone as the steroid of choice in many ICUs.

It is also now believed by many frontline physicians that steroids should be withheld in the early stages of Covid. I don’t really understand why.

Inflammation is an essential component of the initial immune response. Without inflammation we die. Inflammation is even required to maximise the hormetic effect of exercise. There are studies of elite athletes where the administration of antioxidants to impede inflammation reduced hormesis. The trick is in the timing, there is a right time for the antioxidants but not before or just after exercise. The inflammatory curve needs to peak early but without the adaptive arm kicking in sustained inflammation occurs.

If the vaccines suppress the immune response why do the studies showing elevated antibody and T cell responses to COVID?

If the vaccines suppress the immune response then why do people who have an infection also demonstrate declining immunity, especially with omicron?

If the vaccines suppress the immune response then why aren’t there 10s of millions people dead from everyday infections when billions have been vaccinated?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 7:56 pm

I’ve pointed out to my kids that the current rubbish has no music behind the voice. You couldn’t identify the song if lyric was stripped away. The definition of formulaic shit music.

Oi Rabz! Gez is dissing Miss Ellie!

*Slips $80 over the bar for Gez and sneaks away…*

#FrontBarUrger

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 20, 2022 7:59 pm

Having attended a few weddings, usually stuck down the back on the “singles”table, you can’t have too many bridesmaids at a wedding.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 8:00 pm

Doc Faustus:

And ‘Product of China’ garlic.
Don’t ask about the growing medium.

My understanding of the Italian tomato industry is that it is controlled by the Mafia and just repackages bulk tomatoes from China.
Whatever – I don’t buy Italian tomatoes any more.

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 20, 2022 8:02 pm

Because we’re a civilised people who believe in Laura Norder

Which will last about three days after the food in the supermarkets runs out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 8:03 pm

Learn to love your rats, Parisians told by councillor
By The Times
The Times
An hour ago July 20, 2022
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The rats of Paris are the victims of human prejudice and should be renamed to remove the stigma that afflicts them, according to a member of a left-wing council in the city.

The call by Douchka Markovic, who is responsible for animal welfare and pest control in the Right Bank’s 18th district, was met with disbelief. Rodents outnumber people in Paris by almost two to one. Her comments also angered the National Academy of Medicine.

The member of the Socialist-Greens coalition led by mayor Anne Hidalgo was responding to the opposition’s demand for more efforts to exterminate the rats infesting council apartment buildings and their gardens. “I prefer to call them surmulots, which has a less negative sound,” she told a council session.

The rodents “play an important role in the sewers by evacuating hundreds of tonnes of waste and unblocking the pipes,” Ms Markovic claimed. She said the city should switch to “ethical, non-lethal” ways of controlling them.

The academy said: “The rat remains a threat to human health because of the numerous diseases it spreads through its parasites, excrement, bites and scratches. You can die from them.”

Paris and Marseilles are among the world’s most rat-plagued cities, it added. The academy called for stringent eradication measures and more efforts to clean up the food waste that attracts vermin.

Covid lockdowns and work on the city’s underground infrastructure are blamed for driving rats above ground. Some municipal creches and gardens have been closed after being invaded by the rodents. Critics say the mayor is failing to keep the city clean and is allowing rubbish to pile up during strikes.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 8:06 pm

You couldn’t identify the song if lyric was stripped away. The definition of formulaic shit music

It must be said that this is not an entirely unique phenomenon to latter-day popular music.

Take the example of the Prussian Hohenfreidburger and Fredericus Rex marches.

The opening notes of each piece of music are so close that I’ll often start to hum the latter and crash headlong into reciting the former…

#Verdammt

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 8:06 pm

Milton, when was the last time a front bench politician resigned over of a matter of principle?

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 8:08 pm

Does anyone know why, when I put something up to listen to – example just now from Rex – I can’t hear it? (Volume is not turned down, btw)

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:14 pm

Does anyone know why, when I put something up to listen to – example just now from Rex – I can’t hear it?

Lucky you.

rickw
rickw
July 20, 2022 8:16 pm

Missus went to the bank today to deposit a cheque in my name into my account. Bank says no.

WTF?

Is Australia the most irritating and stupid country on earth?!

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 8:17 pm

very good question BBS

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 20, 2022 8:18 pm

I’ve just discovered that I can be a Lord of Glencoe for about thirty quid.

The big question is, would I be Dr. Lord Beaugie of Glencoe, or Lord Dr. Beaugie of Glencoe? Until I find out, I’m not going to cough up the money.

Cassie of Sydney
July 20, 2022 8:20 pm

“The big question is, would I be Dr. Lord Beaugie of Glencoe, or Lord Dr. Beaugie of Glencoe? Until I find out, I’m not going to cough up the money.”

Does it come with a tartan and will you wear a kilt?

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 20, 2022 8:20 pm

But I am already Lord of Glencoe .

Biggles, Lord of Glencoe. But just call me m’lud.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 20, 2022 8:20 pm

Missus went to the bank today to deposit a cheque in my name into my account. Bank says no.

WTF?

Is Australia the most irritating and stupid country on earth?!

Why did the bank refuse to bank the cheque? and Yes is the answer to the last question.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 8:20 pm

Carpe/Lizzie:
20th July was my transplant day 2014.
8 Years ago.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 8:22 pm

Tanya Plibersek pauses $4.5bn works on Western Australia’s Burrup Peninsula
A protest against the Perdaman urea plant on WA’s Burrup Peninsula. Picture: Nancye Miles-Tweedie
A protest against the Perdaman urea plant on WA’s Burrup Peninsula. Picture: Nancye Miles-Tweedie

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Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek has told proponents behind a $4.5bn urea project on Western Australia’s Burrup Peninsula to pause any construction work while her office assesses concerns over the project’s potential impact on Indigenous rock art and sensitive sites.

Ms Plibersek’s office is understood to have sought an assurance from Perdaman, a Perth-headquartered fertiliser company headed by Vikas Rambal, that no work will be carried out until there has been a decision on whether to grant a formal 60-day freeze of work at the site.

The massive project is expected to create up to 2000 jobs and will produce fertiliser for the agricultural industry, but opponents say it will require the removal of three rock art sites and will impact multiple other sacred sites.

One of those opposed to the project, traditional custodian Josie Alec, said she had been personally assured her application for ministerial intervention was being considered. She said she was encouraged by the news but had been burnt before by government promises.

“You never know with these guys because they’ve done it to us so many times, so I take it with a grain of salt until we get something on paper,” she said.

The scrutiny of the Perdaman urea project comes a day after Ms Plibersek used the launch of the latest state of the environment report to pledge an overhaul of environmental laws and vowed to significantly expand the amount of Australia under protection.

The stop-work request will give federal regulators time to assess whether to exercise powers under section 9 of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Heritage Protection Act. Should that be exercised, Perdaman would be barred from carrying out works at the site for two months without additional approvals and management plans.

Save Our Songlines, a group of traditional custodians opposed to the project, tried unsuccessfully earlier this year to have then-­federal environment minister Sussan Ley intervene. The request was rejected after Ms Ley said she was not satisfied the area was under “a serious and ­immediate threat of injury or ­desecration”.

Interesting choice – fertiliser, for raising food crops, or cave paintings and song lines – relevant in the 21st century?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 20, 2022 8:22 pm

I’ve just discovered that I can be a Lord of Glencoe for about thirty quid.

A neighbour just received his certificate from the US he is now a pastor.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 20, 2022 8:22 pm

Does it come with a tartan and will you wear a kilt?

Probably, and No.

I get a crest with a rather hideous design though.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 8:25 pm

Bespoke:

You don’t want to live in a country in perpetual turmoil, ask my parents.
Still a lot to be thankful for and a chance to change things.

Certainly we have a lot to be thankful for, and we may yet dodge this bullet. (The odds aren’t really flash, but they are there.)
Do you mind letting us know where they were?

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 20, 2022 8:25 pm

Tanya Plibersek pauses $4.5bn works on Western Australia’s Burrup Peninsula

Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek has told proponents behind a $4.5bn urea project on Western Australia’s Burrup Peninsula to pause any construction work while her office assesses concerns over the project’s potential impact on Indigenous rock art and sensitive sites.

Ms Plibersek’s office is understood to have sought an assurance from Perdaman, a Perth-headquartered fertiliser company headed by Vikas Rambal, that no work will be carried out until there has been a decision on whether to grant a formal 60-day freeze of work at the site.

The massive project is expected to create up to 2000 jobs and will produce fertiliser for the agricultural industry, but opponents say it will require the removal of three rock art sites and will impact multiple other sacred sites.

One of those opposed to the project, traditional custodian Josie Alec, said she had been personally assured her application for ministerial intervention was being considered. She said she was encouraged by the news but had been burnt before by government promises.

“You never know with these guys because they’ve done it to us so many times, so I take it with a grain of salt until we get something on paper,” she said.

The scrutiny of the Perdaman urea project comes a day after Ms Plibersek used the launch of the latest state of the environment report to pledge an overhaul of environmental laws and vowed to significantly expand the amount of Australia under protection.

The stop-work request will give federal regulators time to assess whether to exercise powers under section 9 of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Heritage Protection Act. Should that be exercised, Perdaman would be barred from carrying out works at the site for two months without additional approvals and management plans.

Save Our Songlines, a group of traditional custodians opposed to the project, tried unsuccessfully earlier this year to have then-­federal environment minister Sussan Ley intervene. The request was rejected after Ms Ley said she was not satisfied the area was under “a serious and ­immediate threat of injury or ­desecration”.

WA’s Department of Water and Environmental Regulation last week granted final works approval for the plant, clearing the way for work to begin.

Save Our Songlines earlier this week wrote to Ms Plibersek and federal Minister for Indigenous Australians Linda Burney urging them to intervene.

The Perdaman plans have proved divisive in Indigenous communities with ties to the ­Burrup.

The support for the project from the Murujuga Aboriginal Corporation, the body set up to represent the different Aboriginal groups of the region, prompted Raelene Cooper and Patrick Churnside to step down from the group and help establish Save Our Songlines.

Ms Alec said she hoped to see the urea project shifted to a different nearby site where it would not directly impact on the Burrup’s rock art. “There’s a designated area they could move it to 20km down the road where they wouldn’t have to remove any rock art, and they definitely do not have to put all these emissions into the air either because there are new ways to reduce carbon emissions,” she said.

“The desecration of the rocks, that’s already happened over the past 20 years and it can’t happen any more.”

The Burrup Peninsula houses some of Australia’s largest industrial projects, such as the North West Shelf and Pluto liquefied natural gas plants and Yara Fertilisers’ Pilbara ammonia plant.

Yet the peninsula and the surrounding Dampier rock art precinct is home to the largest concentration of rock carvings in the world, with many examples relocated or destroyed by earlier developments. There have long been concerns that emissions from that industrial activity could damage the engravings.

The Perdaman project is expected to produce more than two million tonnes a year of urea, a fertiliser widely used for food production. In 2018, Perdaman secured a deal that would see it supplied with gas from Woodside Energy for 20 years.

Ms Plibersek’s office, Mr Rambal and MAC were contacted for comment.

Earlier this year, Mr Rambal told The Australian his company was working “very closely” with MAC, which he said was satisfied with the consultation and the way forward for the project.

Oz

rickw
rickw
July 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Short answer – because we haven’t turned into wild animals yet.
And I hope we never do.

What if we do it slowly and ceremoniously, and have a Victoria style mock trial at the front end?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Does anyone know why, when I put something up to listen to – example just now from Rex – I can’t hear it? (Volume is not turned down, btw)

If you’re on a mobile device, Youtube will sometimes auto-mute, and you have to tap on the video to get it to sound.

My Brave browser on my laptop automatically mutes its tabs, and requires a right click to unmute.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 20, 2022 8:26 pm

Snap Zulu!

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:27 pm

Is Australia the most irritating and stupid country on earth

Not yet

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 8:28 pm

Snap Zulu!

Great minds, Top Ender. A fertilizer plant, on hold, citing song lines and cave paintings, FFS.

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:29 pm

South Africa, Winston.

rickw
rickw
July 20, 2022 8:30 pm

Why did the bank refuse to bank the cheque?

I believe “Because we’re irritating wankers” was the answer. Missus was flabbergasted: You can do this in any third world country, what problem are they trying to solve with this rule?

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 20, 2022 8:30 pm

I wish it was true, JC. But NATO couldn’t even win a war against some goat herders in Afghanistan.

FACTCHECK: True

(I have the T shirt)

rickw
rickw
July 20, 2022 8:33 pm

The Australian Media really are absolutely corrupt, anyone hear about this protest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRgRlhFeX8w

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 8:34 pm

Lucky you

You behave- It’s not like I turn the haubitzen on you lot all the time…

***Preussens Gloria intensifies***

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 8:35 pm

He said, in his words, the mate (19 years old) suffered a heart attack.

As most of you could predict, I once again counselled the beloved grandson NOT to have a booster. And yes, like my grandson, the afflicted boy is an athlete.

While many people think covid is mild, my view is that everybody has long term effects. The preponderance of evidence is that it is a bioweapon that has numerous mrna motifs that are not part of the evolutionary process (and more are discovered constantly) that gives the spike access to major parts of the body including vascular, neurology and reproductive.

The spike protein persists in most people for a very long time through two mechanisms discovered so far: persistent micro-clots and damaged monocytes that attempt to consume and degrade the spike and fail.

What I have notice is that it is possible to have no effects for a very long time and then be pushed over the edge by stressing the physiology well above baseline. This could be through another virus or physical exertion or even aggressive dieting. At which point the body enters a state of escalating auto-immune cascade, potentially leading to death or disability.

The cause is the spike protein keeps the body in a state of mild inflammation and sufficient stressor pushes it to full inflamation where it brings in the heavy guns with resulting adverse events. The spike protein is buried in clots or dysfunctional monocytes and escapes detection by the immune system tricking the immune system to attack nearby parts of the body and develop autoimmune issues with potential serious adverse events. Such as kids dying from autoimmune kidney destruction or athletes dying from heart attacks.

All cause mortality rising certainly provides evidence for what is going on. The distance between an adverse event, which can be months and possibly years and the initial dose of spike protein provides plausible deniability as to cause and effect.

My suspicion is that this bioweapon is in fact part of a multi virus system, priming the recipient for further intervention. We are under continued attack.

The monkeypox virus is ripping through the gay community, in the last 10 days it has gone from 8200 cases to 14500 cases. It is doubling about every 2 weeks. This is not a normal monkeypox virus, looks more like a test run.

Flu does not create long-flu. Covid on the other hand creates persistent issues to various degrees in a significant part of the population. Note there are many people on long covid forums that have had long covid since 2020. The spike protein is very good at long term survival.

Governments show no interest in addressing long-covid or vaccine injuries, yet continue to want to inflict this toxic stew into an ever younger population. In the words of Klaus Schwab, “nobody is safe until everybody is vaccinated”. Governments also all did a 180 on avoidance to acceptance almost simultaneously.

One has to carefully consider the raison-d’etres for the “vaccine”, as it turns the recipient into a spike protein factory with even worst resulting outcomes than covid.

The solution is obviously not the fake mrna “vaccine” but antivirals, since avoiding the virus is near impossible.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 8:37 pm

Rex, thank you.

Dr BG, don’t go near it; next you’ll have a Nigerian email scam filling up your inbox.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 20, 2022 8:39 pm

But I am already Lord of Glencoe .

I was thinking of offering to fight you for the sole right to the title; after all that’s how titles originally got sorted out. Then I discovered that there are an awful lot of lords ( and ladies) of Glencoe, so it would just take up too much time. I’d win of course, I have a surefire method.

It’s called ‘cheating’.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 8:39 pm

Great minds, Top Ender. A fertilizer plant, on hold, citing song lines and cave paintings, FFS.

I thought they were off to present a long-term domestic fix to the AdBlue crisis as well?

Leftism (TM). When you need an inescapable genetic and cultural cul-de-sac, accept no substitutes. Available at all reputable universities, public bureaucracies and multi-national NGOs near you…

2dogs
July 20, 2022 8:40 pm

Gonzalo Lira
@GonzaloLira1968
Imagine 1000 of these, assaulting a town. Imagine they are autonomous, and are networked with one another to coordinate attacks on the ground.

This is probably the future of warfare. I give it not more than 10 years.

Nope.

They are probably using LIDAR to navigate. That, and with the networking, means a huge EM signature. You may as well fit them a homing beacon.

Easily picked up by signals from 25 km away and promptly destroyed by artillery.

Winston Smith
July 20, 2022 8:42 pm

Bespoke:

South Africa, Winston.

Bloody lucky to get out of there with the family and skin intact. SA had so much going for it…
Isn’t there a movement to settle all the whites into one smaller area?

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:44 pm

Rex Angersays:

July 20, 2022 at 8:34 pm

Weirdo!

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 20, 2022 8:45 pm

“A consciousness of guilt”, you say?

So among our politicians, would that phenomenon be described as an “unconsciousness of guilt”?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 8:49 pm

Great minds, Top Ender. A fertilizer plant, on hold, citing song lines and cave paintings, FFS.

Comments on that article aren’t running too strongly in favor of the cave paintings and song lines..

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:49 pm

My perents are still over there Winston.

Isn’t there a movement to settle all the whites into one smaller area?

Unrealist fantasy.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 8:50 pm

Nope.

They are probably using LIDAR to navigate. That, and with the networking, means a huge EM signature. You may as well fit them a homing beacon.

Easily picked up by signals from 25 km away and promptly destroyed by artillery.

On top of the fact that no drone-heavy warfare (or testing) has yet occurred in a theatre of war in which any side has mounted any serious anti-drone EW efforts.

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:52 pm

My perents are still over there, Winston.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 20, 2022 8:52 pm

Weirdo!

C’mon, that video of the music sync’ed to the Panther’s inertia starter was awesome!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 8:54 pm

My perents are still over there, Winston.

If I may ask, whereabouts?

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:56 pm

Isn’t there a movement to settle all the whites into one smaller area?

Unrealistic fantasy. Out gunned and out numberd.

bespoke
bespoke
July 20, 2022 8:58 pm

Alberton

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
July 20, 2022 8:58 pm

Eyrie,

I watched ‘Apollo 11 live’ last night. It was riveting. Some observations:
Footage of the crowd and car parks.Some super cool cars in pristine condition.
Combi vans with pop tops galore.
Some great mini skirts
Everyone had a smoke pipe or cigar in mouth at some point
The media sure did love themselves way back then
Mrs Armstrong telling a journo ‘no’ to stupid question.
Leftist dimwits got plenty of airtime back then as well.
Great footage all round.

miltonf
miltonf
July 20, 2022 9:03 pm

The Australian Media really are absolutely corrupt, anyone hear about this protest?

It’s Soviet style suppression now- enemies of the people

MatrixTransform
MatrixTransform
July 20, 2022 9:04 pm

Was having a conversation with my dentist this morning.

Well, as much as you can with a gobful of stainless steel.

Anyway, carrying on from yesterday’s conv about gender science he’d obviously been considering things.

His loose thesis is that we don’t really have any interpersonal connection anymore anywhere. And that we are effective digitally brokered by bots.

Sexless bots
Genderless bots
You know…machines, right.

And that the whole gender-tech thing with the kiddies these days might really be just an alignment to fit better with with the robotic way things are done now.

Cyborgs’R’us

I asked him how we gonna breed and what happens when the power goes off ?

Prolly won’t get an answer until November

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 9:10 pm

Alberton

All the best to them – South Africa was a country with a lot to offer, and it’s being turned into another Third World shithole, courtesy of the A.N.C.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
July 20, 2022 9:21 pm

Wow, whats the odds of their ABCcess coordinating an interview with Mrs “ I hunt food the traditional way, at Woolies” the same day the junkies missus announces a stop to work?

Zipster
Zipster
July 20, 2022 9:21 pm

The Economist weighs in

The global food crisis, explained

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 20, 2022 9:24 pm

In Sleep Tight news:

Australia almost no chance to buy any submarine from current US building program, experts say

Defence is facing a capability gap as the existing Collins-class fleet retires and hopes fade of getting a new submarine under the Aukus deal before 2040.

The US is aiming to build its own fleet of at least 60 nuclear-powered boats, but the report released this week shows it will reach a minimum of 46 boats in 2028, 50 by 3032 and between 60 and 69 by 2052. It is trying to increase capacity, but will still struggle to meet its own targets for decades.

[Marcus Hellyer, a senior analyst at Australian Strategic Policy Institute said that] any submarine Australia would buy was likely to be from the next generation of US submarines, which will start being bought in the mid 2030s and are set to be vastly more expensive.

He has estimated, based on the current model, the entire program to build eight submarines will cost $171bn in the end, including inflation.

Research presented to US Congress suggests the next model would cost at least AUD$3bn more (each) than the current model, pushing the price even higher.

Hellyer said there was also “no way” the UK could spare a submarine as it is only building seven of the Astute class (which is one of the options being considered for Australia) before it moves to a new model. “The UK is currently wrapping up its Astute program,” he said. “They need to wrap that up to transfer the resources to the Dreadnaught program.

“They have no capacity to build us submarines.”

I have exactly zero content knowledge about submarines. But I do have a high degree of confidence that Australia could end up spending well in excess of $200 billion on eight boats. Four times the original cost estimate and twice the delivery seems about right for government projects.

Defence minister, Richard Marles, has consistently said he is keeping an open mind on the solution to the capability gap.

Perhaps his new Chinese besties might be able to help?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 20, 2022 9:27 pm

Justin
19 minutes ago
So the desecration of an internationally important heritage site comes down to coin?</blockquote

Pay a lot more for your food, to cover the huge increase in the cost of fertilizer, or go hungry.

JC
JC
July 20, 2022 9:28 pm

bespoke says:
July 20, 2022 at 6:07 pm

Lucky I’m to lazy to look, JC. But I am sure you said AOC was hot.

Bespoke, you’re delusional. I’ve always found Bug Eyes PARTICULARLY unattractive. Stop spreading fake news.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
July 20, 2022 9:35 pm

JC
According to occasional cortex you stating you don’t like her means you want to jump her bones.

Bruce in WA
July 20, 2022 9:36 pm

Amazing. The name BSA motorcycles stands for Birmingham Small Arms Company Ltd.

Rifles, yes. Motorbikes, no. With them it stands for Bastards Stopped Again.

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