Open Thread – Weekend 8 July 2023


The Peasant Dance, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1568

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Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 6:44 pm

“What a childish response. I’m no hypocrite, but it seems, you certainly are.”

Nah, I leave the childishness to you. And yes, you are a hypocrite, and you don’t like it when your hypocrisy is called out.

JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 6:47 pm

Don’t worry, it’s coming. FWIW, Tony Maddox – back in Court tomorrow over the incident of the culvert and the Wagyl – is blown away at the popular support he’s receiving.

Please, let it be so Zulu.

The tree regeneration should just proceed as planned. It’s repulsive that this has been halted.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 9, 2023 6:47 pm

All right, you accountants…it’s acronyms at ten paces!

You think accountants can’t game the number ten?

They will take two paces, claim government credits for 12, amortise them over the next three years waiting for the National Pace and Leap Standardisation Act, sell four paces to a Pace Broker, use the money to lease six, divert three paces to a Pace haven, and bundle the remaining 273 paces in packages to be sold on the open market.

They will be lucky to be facing off on the same continent and in the same decade.

cohenite
July 9, 2023 6:48 pm

Nobody here is without some sin

People tell me I’m perfect all the time.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 6:50 pm

“People tell me I’m perfect all the time.”

Almost perfect.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 9, 2023 6:51 pm

Interesting that the woman with the historical links to a claim over Port Philip

Hystorical?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 6:52 pm

Sounds like a Conga Line of Arseholes to me.

Fok jou ma nog vreemdelinge vir busrit?

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 6:53 pm

The tree regeneration should just proceed as planned. It’s repulsive that this has been halted.

Repulsive?
Get a grip, dude.
We’re talkin’n bout f…ing trees.

cohenite
July 9, 2023 6:55 pm
JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 6:55 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Jul 9, 2023 6:44 PM
“What a childish response. I’m no hypocrite, but it seems, you certainly are.”

Nah, I leave the childishness to you. And yes, you are a hypocrite, and you don’t like it when your hypocrisy is called out.
…………………………..

You may be under the impression you are the greatest oracle to grace this forum, but let me tell you, your posts are repetitive and now bordering on boring. New material, Cassie.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 6:57 pm

Earlier this year, here in Sydney, progressive scum protested a funeral, the funeral of Cardinal George Pell, yes a funeral. I saw it, I was there.

Yesterday, in the UK, an ageing global warming catastrophist protested a wedding, yes a wedding, by gatecrashing the bride and groom outside the church with God knows what.

Progressivism.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 9, 2023 6:58 pm

I have to go out of my way and sin deliberately so natural sinners don’t feel embarrassed in my presence.

My sins are a virtue.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 9, 2023 6:58 pm

Repulsive?
Get a grip, dude.
We’re talkin’n bout f…ing trees.

It’s Ok Ed, you are safe now.

Can you show us on the doll where the trees touched you?

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 7:02 pm

“You may be under the impression you are the greatest oracle to grace this forum, but let me tell you, your posts are repetitive and now bordering on boring. New material, Cassie.”

Lol. Poor JMH, doesn’t like being called a hypocrite.

Oh and I think my comments are highly regarded. And you can say what you like about them, but unlike yours they’re rarely boring. A tad jealous perhaps? Or are you trying to instigate a pile on? We know you like them. You don’t, of course, like being on the receiving end of one, but you sure do like participating in them.

miltonf
miltonf
July 9, 2023 7:02 pm

ageing global warming catastrophist

Attenborough?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 7:03 pm

Voice advocate Thomas Mayo criticises media for publishing ‘negative headlines’ on ‘positive stories’

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6:30PM July 9, 2023
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Voice to parliament architect Thomas Mayo has condemned the media for publishing “negative headlines” on “positive stories” about the upcoming referendum and said such actions had harmed the yes campaign.

Speaking at a University of Melbourne and Melbourne Press Club event, Mr Mayo said plenty of misinformation had been spread about the Voice. He also criticised some content published on social media platforms, labelling it “terrible”.

“It’s been frustrating to see positive stories with negative headlines and that is something that has been concerning,” he said last week.
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“People tend to just read the headlines from time to time and that doesn’t help us.” Mr Mayo, a Kaurareg Aboriginal and Kalkalgal, Erubamle Torres Strait Islander man and union official, made the news last month after tweets he posted in 2018 revealed him saying it was necessary to have repatriations, give land back and pay rent to Indigenous people.

At the MPC event, Mr Mayo urged audience members to speak to “everybody you can possibly influence” and ensure they understood that the voice is “about fairness, recognition and a say for people that decisions are made about”.

Alamak!
Alamak!
July 9, 2023 7:07 pm

there is a difference between common, boring, everyday sin which (almost) everybody does … and original sin.

Progressives hate their own religion while believing that certain people are guilty of original sin, calling it “racism” or “colonialism” or “slavery”. As Chesterton said, religion don’t go away it just takes new forms.

Alamak!
Alamak!
July 9, 2023 7:08 pm

ageing global warming catastrophist

Attenborough?

Greta has grown up now, but like the Bourbons, learned nothing.

Frank
Frank
July 9, 2023 7:08 pm

Nobody here is without some sin

Sin, I have no sin. I’m as pure as the driven snow.

Yeah, but you drifted.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 9, 2023 7:10 pm

Cassie just saw the protester at the wedding. My MiL said they should have beaten her for ruining their wedding.

JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 7:10 pm

Lol. Poor JMH, doesn’t like being called a hypocrite.

Oh and I think my comments are highly regarded. And you can say what you like about them, but unlike yours they’re rarely boring. A tad jealous perhaps? Or are you trying to instigate a pile on? We know you like them. You don’t, of course, like being on the receiving end of one, but you sure do like participating in them.
……………………………………..

Thankfully, I do not suffer from delusions of grandeur.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 7:11 pm

Re the query were my children’s and grandchildren’s neurological issues caused by childhood vax – for my children, unlikely as they only had the three usual separate ones and not a combined measles/mumps one. My eldest, the one with autistic tendencies, did however have a smallpox vaxx to go to Sri Lanka when he was 3 months old, and also a BCG against TB at that time. Given the way in which autism spectrum has presented down the generations I suspect it is genetic. Do vaxxes bring it out? Simply cannot say, but can’t see evidence for that in population studies. My grandchildren have had more vaxxes, the sort all kids get today.

Hairy’s grandson gets his autism from our son’s wife (double university medalist in engineering and law, so not dumb) who has tested strongly for it herself recently. She has certain problems in socialising. She put me onto the special adult testing clinic for my adult son. My eldest son’s grandchild probably gets his autism from my first husband (double univer)sity medalist also, with a fine mind for numerical and logical brilliance, but not easy in his own skin). Our daughter’s little three year old, Hairy’s other grandson, a playful and bright child of high intelligence and excellent sociability and speech, has mild variant of a disastrous genetic disorder of the connective tissues. It’s never been in my family nor Hairy’s so probably comes from our daughter’s husband’s side. Who knows? My mother had a severe schizophrenia and my father had bipolar disorder. We three kids are all normal enough in intelligence (we’re all pretty good on IQ tests) and sociability, my brother is now deceased early from a stroke. No strokes in the family.
Go figure.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 9, 2023 7:11 pm

Pure as yellow snow.

John H.
John H.
July 9, 2023 7:11 pm

This will be a big step forward in treating depression and offers hope for brain injury, schizophrenia, and some types of dementia. It is consistent with a large body of other research. It is also a good example of when governments and agenda pushers get out of the way smart people can get things done.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 7:12 pm

Cassie,
the wedding was George Osbourne’s. No love for Osbourne, a particularly odious character in British politics. However, in no way do I condone what was done to he and his wife. It is also an example of the useless security available in the UK. To wit, the tennis a few days ago. It was f**king Wimbledon and these morons were able to waltz past security. It has been thirty years since Monica Seles was stabbed in the neck, and nothing has changed.
Ordinary people need to start carrying riding crops. Once these filthy eco-terrorists are whipped across the face a few times, they won’t be smirking like that evil slag who doused Osbourne and his wife with garbage.

Rabz
July 9, 2023 7:12 pm

Taylor Swift tickets

Cats, several years ago I was challenged by a braindead clickbait piece on the interwebs – “How to write a song like Taylor Swift”

Thought, I could write a song like the aforementioned bimbette in several minutes. So here it is, for your muzakal delectation, Cats:

Well, I’m a vacuous blonde bimbette
Did I tell you I’m like, totally het?
I’ve never had an original thought in my life
But I tells ya I’ll never be ya trophy wife!

Yeah it’s like, 1898, baby, 1898!

My legs have got that matchstick look
I’ve never evah like, read a book
My fans are all as dumb as me
For my songs they’ll even waste money!

Yeah it’s like, 1898, baby, 1898!
Yeah it’s like, 1898, baby, 1898!

Colourless bureaucrats don’t turn me on
Justin Beaver is like, da bomb!
Poor ol’ Rafe is like, kinda cool
But Harry Clarke is just a tool

Yeah it’s like, 1898, baby, 1898!
Yeah it’s like, 1898, baby, 1898!
Yeah it’s like, 1898, baby, 1898!
Coda …

🙂

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 7:12 pm

“Thankfully, I do not suffer from delusions of grandeur.”

No, you just suffer from hypocrisy and nastiness.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 7:19 pm

“Pogria
Jul 9, 2023 7:12 PM

Agree 100%, I don’t like Osborne, all round toff and comrade of David Cameron. But he and his bride didn’t deserve to have their wedding gatecrashed by progressive scum.

JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 7:20 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Jul 9, 2023 7:12 PM
“Thankfully, I do not suffer from delusions of grandeur.”

No, you just suffer from hypocrisy and nastiness.
…………………………………

Do I now? New material, Cassie. This is simply repetitive tosh
.

I also understand you seem to support absolute lies and slander directed at someone you do not like. Duly noted.

Tom
Tom
July 9, 2023 7:20 pm

Voice advocate Thomas Mayo criticises media for publishing ‘negative headlines’ on ‘positive stories’

To paraphrase Lance Corporal Jones in Dad’s Army, self-righteous loudmouths don’t like it up ’em, suh!

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 7:22 pm

Seems Comrade Mayo realises he has lost control of the narrative.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 7:24 pm

“I also understand you seem to support absolute lies and slander directed at someone you do not like. Duly noted”

LOL. I duly noted your hypocrisy a long time ago.

miltonf
miltonf
July 9, 2023 7:25 pm

I quite enjoyed this-Round Britain 1976

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 7:25 pm

“Seems Comrade Mayo realises he has lost control of the narrative.

Comrade Mayo realises he has been exposed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 7:26 pm

What difference will it make to have his problem declared officially as a handicap or illness?
Will it change his behavior, or will he get treatment and is any treatment at his age be beneficial or even effective?

Officially if he has a handicap recognised this can be considered in finding him suitable work. I do think it will change his behaviour because that’s what driven him to consider testing. There is apparently quite beneficial neuro-linguistic programming treatment that helps autistic adults better comprehend their responses and hence work to change them. Studies do exist showing that this can be effective.

There is also the placebo factor. More care and attention to someone’s problems can in itself be beneficial in helping people to overcome them. I like that old Dr. Kanner (autism’s first case, see above) who in the 30’s wanted to hold over over-labelling people (sensible psychiatrist) but who had to come up with something to explain deep autism, which presented in many different ways with the defining feature always being ‘just not ordinary, cannot cope, odd literality at times (time to get on your bike, said a friend of ours to my son re his HSC study – so he went out and got on his bicycle and rode off), strange ways with language (my son won a poetry prize for an extraordinary imagery and flair with words he only half understood! he can still use complex words he likes the sound of in ways neither you nor I would use them, in conversation). My sister’s son, the part-aboriginal one, nailed it. He said the trouble with my son was that he was perfectly fine for 25 minutes out of every 30. It was the minutes when he wasn’t that were the problem. Hairy’s brother, out from the UK for our daughter’s wedding, picked it immediately sitting near him at the wedding table. His career was as a maths and computing head teacher at a major British boys public school. He’s dealt with young male students and their problems for many years. Somethings definitely wrong, he told me. Probably autism.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 7:26 pm

Look out!

Carpe’s having flashbacks again.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 7:29 pm

I like that old Dr. Kanner (autism’s first case, see above) who in the 30’s wanted to hold over over-labelling people (sensible psychiatrist) but who had to come up with something to explain deep autism, which presented in many different ways

You know what else started in the 30s?
Mass, multiple Vaccination of Children.

miltonf
miltonf
July 9, 2023 7:32 pm

These old commos never went away.

Rabz
July 9, 2023 7:32 pm

I’m losing you … 😕

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 7:33 pm

These old commos never went away.

Come on down…Eddie Mabo!

JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 7:33 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Jul 9, 2023 7:24 PM
“I also understand you seem to support absolute lies and slander directed at someone you do not like. Duly noted”

LOL. I duly noted your hypocrisy a long time ago.

Give it a rest, Cassie. You won’t win this one even though you may want the last word. Puerile repetition does you no favours.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 9, 2023 7:35 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Jul 9, 2023 7:19 PM
“Pogria
Jul 9, 2023 7:12 PM

Agree 100%, I don’t like Osborne, all round toff and comrade of David Cameron. But he and his bride didn’t deserve to have their wedding gatecrashed by progressive scum.

There is nothing at all “progressive” about those scum. They are mental midgets, who are simply opportunistic. They see someone or something that they don’t like, rush in to cause disruption, with no logical plan to implement whatever it is they are babbling about.

miltonf
miltonf
July 9, 2023 7:36 pm

Reminds me of Sir William Deane- ‘unutterable shame’- our elites hate the country I love. I suppose I’m helping to pay Dean’s superannuation which is probably more than I earn.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 9, 2023 7:37 pm

Good Lord Mayo is clutching at his pubes which he imagines as straws now.

“It’s been frustrating to see positive stories with negative headlines and that is something that has been concerning,” he said last week.
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“People tend to just read the headlines from time to time and that doesn’t help us.” Mr Mayo, a Kaurareg Aboriginal and Kalkalgal, Erubamle Torres Strait Islander man and union official, made the news last month after tweets he posted in 2018 revealed him saying it was necessary to have repatriations, give land back and pay rent to Indigenous people.

Maybe enunciate why Teh Voice is good for the nation and contrast to your poor form previously Mr Mayo.
I trust Mr Mayo is on a good taxpayer wicket with no variance in bounce.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 9, 2023 7:37 pm

Roger
Jul 9, 2023 7:22 PM
Seems Comrade Mayo realises he has lost control of the narrative.

Too stupid to realize that others can scroll through his previous rants, and highlight his immaturity and arrogance.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 7:42 pm

Reminds me of Sir William Deane- ‘unutterable shame’

The Sir William Deane who beclowned himself so monumentally apologizing for the “massacre at Mistake Creek” – a group of Aboriginal stockmen murdered a group of nomadic Aborigines, in a dispute over a woman?

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 7:43 pm

“Give it a rest, Cassie. You won’t win this one even though you may want the last word. Puerile repetition does you no favours.”

Firstly, despite what you think, you’re not the blog censor and I and others here don’t take orders from you. Secondly, there’s no “competition”. I will however respond to comments made to me personally or made about me. My first comment was about your hypocrisy, where I said that nobody here is without some sin, and that includes you. I (and others here) well remember your many vicious remarks about Lizzie and to Lizzie.

And it’s you who’s engaging in puerile repetition, and yes, I agree, it most certainly doesn’t do you any favours, but not a lot does seem to do you any favours.

Dot
Dot
July 9, 2023 7:43 pm

Beatiful work rabz.

The hard bit is creating an earworm like the string section played on the synth like in “Call Me Maybe”.

Rabz
July 9, 2023 7:43 pm

Sacré bleu, Cats!

Swifty or Miss Ellie?

😕

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 7:50 pm

I see the angry uncle JHM’s turned up in his Leyland P76, demanding to know who took away the clear spiky plastic hallway runner he bought in in 1978.

miltonf
miltonf
July 9, 2023 7:50 pm

Dad used Deane ‘holy Willie’- lives in canbra of course.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 7:51 pm

Is Miss Elli a dude too, Rabzy?

Marty
July 9, 2023 7:53 pm

Sacré bleu, Cats!

Swifty or Miss Ellie?

Definitely Miss Ellie. Les artifice.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 7:55 pm

JWH, you did join in pile-ons of me, which you now see as simply corrective of something I am or that you think I have done. I guess that’s what all the uptickers think, so be it. I put you down then in my own mind as rather a sour old chap, rather set in his ways and tried a couple of times to be nice to you without success. I was surprised to find you are a woman; since you told us that you have definitely been more contributory and chatty. I think that’s a good thing. Don’t worry about JC, he’s ok in a crisis and has some worthwhile commentary but just enjoys getting antsy.

I said above that everyone is a bit of a psychological case in some way. Human nature.
Let it come out and forget about it.

I’ve said here I can’t see the point in old coals and grudges. Let’s move on. Plenty of other things to worry about and discuss.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 9, 2023 7:55 pm

Sacré bleu, Cats!

Swifty or Miss Ellie?

Taylor Swift hands down.
Dolores O’Riordan was a beautiful woman as was Andrea Corr. Elles brunes de Irlande

Gabor
Gabor
July 9, 2023 7:56 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Jul 9, 2023 7:26 PM

Hope it works out for your son, any improvement is better than none.

I only asked because I know next to nothing about this condition and thought the age might be a problem.

All the best.

rosie
rosie
July 9, 2023 7:58 pm

When you say clear KD, do you mean the transparent ones in a pale yellow shade, or the plain ones.
If it’s the pale yellow, I think I know who took it.

eric hinton
eric hinton
July 9, 2023 7:59 pm

OK. I’ll go into bat for Taylor. I used to call her the Porcelain Doll.

Fifteen. I realize it harks back to a more innocent age, but someone has to sing these songs for twelve-year-old girls.,, and someone has to sing songs for fifteen-year-old boys so hats off to the skinny chick.

JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 8:00 pm

An afterthought, Cassie. As a very good friend, why did you not go into bat for Lizzie when she was under the pump from numerous posters? It’s rather revealing that you come out a-guns-ablazing now when the dust is well and truly settled.

What a friend you are!

Alamak!
Alamak!
July 9, 2023 8:00 pm

how to write song lyrics like Taylor Swift apparently does

its on old tech(“LSTM”) but works well enough and can be manually tuned. Chat GPT 4.0 is a better TS song writer ofc.

Indolent
Indolent
July 9, 2023 8:01 pm

Dr. John Campbell

Excess heart deaths

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 8:02 pm

GMH and The Mysterious Matter of the Imaginary Pile-ons.
Easy tiger.
You’ll blow a foofer valve champ.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 8:02 pm

Lizzie is a class act.

Lee
Lee
July 9, 2023 8:04 pm

Earlier this year, here in Sydney, progressive scum protested a funeral, the funeral of Cardinal George Pell, yes a funeral. I saw it, I was there.

Yesterday, in the UK, an ageing global warming catastrophist protested a wedding, yes a wedding, by gatecrashing the bride and groom outside the church with God knows what.

Several years ago, protesters gatecrashed a sermon by Father Rod Bower, a particularly nasty far-left priest, in Gosford.

The cries of outrage and disgust from the left, suddenly concerned with the sanctity of the church were a sight to behold.

Having said that, protesting church services, weddings or funerals is absolutely a no-no in my opinion; I don’t care who the protest is against, or the the reason for it

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 8:06 pm

“What a friend you are!”

I am a good friend to Lizzie, and she is a good friend to me. I have come to bat for her many, many times, and will continue to do so in the future. But your comment is one again revealing, you see only what you see. Here’s a thought, perhaps you should go to Specsavers.

Dot
Dot
July 9, 2023 8:06 pm

I see the angry uncle JHM’s turned up in his Leyland P76, demanding to know who took away the clear spiky plastic hallway runner he bought in in 1978.

My Dad loved his. Mum gave us tacit permission to ruin it!

Indolent
Indolent
July 9, 2023 8:08 pm

That’s exactly what it is.

The Great Reset Is a Project of Extermination

JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 8:09 pm

Here’s a thought, perhaps you should check the definition of hypocrite again, Cassie.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 9, 2023 8:10 pm

Anyway … what’s your expert take on the security situation in Israel, Bruce?

I take it that you are ignorant of such things Ed.
Perhaps you should read Arutz Sheva.
It’s a good news outlet.
H/t Cassie.

As a matter of interest I’ve done a fair bit of work in heteroaryl chemistry. Furan, thiophene, pyridine. But I never did work with the arsenic equivalent, which is known as arsole. I defer to you in that respect, since you clearly are an expert.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 8:10 pm

“Having said that, protesting church services, weddings or funerals is absolutely a no-no in my opinion; I don’t care who the protest is against, or the the reason for it”

Agree.

JMH
JMH
July 9, 2023 8:11 pm

Not ONCE did I see you enter into any discussions re. Lizzie – and there were plenty of them. On Sinc’s and also here. As I said – what a friend!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 8:13 pm

Thankfully, I do not suffer from delusions of grandeur.

And nor should you.
In fact, I can’t think of a dude who exudes less grandeur.
Besides, there is only room for one God-Oracle on this blog.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 8:13 pm

“Here’s a thought, perhaps you should check the definition of hypocrite again, Cassie.”

I have checked the definition, and I can confirm again that you are a hypocrite.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 8:16 pm

“Not ONCE did I see you enter into any discussions re. Lizzie – and there were plenty of them. On Sinc’s and also here. As I said – what a friend!”

You really need to go to Specsavers. Oh, and now you’re referring to the pile ons against Lizzie, pile ons you gleefully joined in on, as “discussions re. Lizzie”.

LOL

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
July 9, 2023 8:16 pm

Mr Mayo, a Kaurareg Aboriginal and Kalkalgal, Erubamle Torres Strait Islander man and union official

Why do they leave out the Philipino and all the other bits of his ethnicity?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 8:17 pm

I see the angry uncle JHM’s turned up in his Leyland P76, demanding to know who took away the clear spiky plastic hallway runner he bought in in 1978.

I hope this isn’t doxxing Uncle GMH.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 8:19 pm

I give it 15 minutes before Uncle GMH starts picking fights with someone who isn’t here.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 8:19 pm

“Why do they leave out the Philipino and all the other bits of his ethnicity?”

Yesp, including his Jewish ancestry.

John H.
John H.
July 9, 2023 8:21 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Jul 9, 2023 7:26 PM
What difference will it make to have his problem declared officially as a handicap or illness?
Will it change his behavior, or will he get treatment and is any treatment at his age be beneficial or even effective?

Officially if he has a handicap recognised this can be considered in finding him suitable work. I do think it will change his behaviour because that’s what driven him to consider testing. There is apparently quite beneficial neuro-linguistic programming treatment that helps autistic adults better comprehend their responses and hence work to change them. Studies do exist showing that this can be effective.

Sympathies. At any age the right treatment can help. There are therapists that specialize in ASD, if possible, seek them out. I’m surprised he hasn’t been formally diagnosed.

‘just not ordinary, cannot cope, odd literality at times (time to get on your bike, said a friend of ours to my son re his HSC study

That is so ASD, language taken very literally.

He said the trouble with my son was that he was perfectly fine for 25 minutes out of every 30.

It’s difficult to sort out a temper tantrum from sensory overload, the latter can be a real problem for autists. Very difficult to do this but if you can detect a pattern there, a set of circumstances that sets him off, it might help. This is probably moot for you but asking him if he knows what triggers him or what environments irritate him might help. Autists sometimes have very specific triggers.

Don’t ignore the possibility of drug treatments. Autists often have an unusual connectome, different communication pathways in the brain that can create problems. Another issue in ASD is low GABA, the main inhibitory neurotransmitter. Hence anxiety can also be a problem. One autist I came across always carried a small bottle of cannabidiol so when he became anxious a couple of drops under the tongue helped control that(CBD boosts GABA). Low dose 2nd gen antipsychotics is another option. I appreciate that sounds severe but it might help.

ASD can come with comorbidities like ADD, ADHD, depression, anxiety, sensory hypersensitivity, food intolerances, gut issues, systemic inflammation and autoimmune issues. One of the more unusual things I read about ASD is the tendency towards low vitamin D status irrespective of sunlight exposure. It isn’t just about the brain, it can be a whole body condition.
Full text is available.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7242097/

Conclusion
Vitamin D supplementation improves the typical symptoms of autism spectrum disorder, as indicated by reduced Social Responsiveness Scale and Child Autism Rating Scale scores; thus, it is beneficial for children with autism spectrum disorder.

That worked independently of D status. Odd but consistent with the immune dysfunction so common in ASD.

my son won a poetry prize for an extraordinary imagery and flair with words he only half understood! he can still use complex words he likes the sound of in ways neither you nor I would use them, in conversation).

That’s extraordinary because my Aspie friend is a highly acclaimed poet. The goal is not to make them normal, that’s not possible, but to play to their strengths. If you could find some poetry comps for him to enter, or general publications that accept poetry, and he can focus on that, it could make a huge difference. Finding a focus, something to give them an orientation in life, can be beneficial.

I can’t tell you what to do, I can only make suggestions. An Aspie friend who has written a few books on ASD said to me: if you’ve met one autist you’ve met one autist. The implication is that like so many behavioral conditions there can be a very wide variation in symptom presentation.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 8:22 pm

Oh, hello.

Moeen Ali, of all people has been dragged into the crucial No. 3 spot after Duckett burned an LBW review.

This would appear to be a bit silly.

Noodles Romanoff
Noodles Romanoff
July 9, 2023 8:24 pm

Ed Case
Jul 9, 2023 6:53 PM

We’re talkin’n bout f…ing trees.

Good to see you’ve moved on from your bear obsession Ed.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
July 9, 2023 8:25 pm

Old Ozzie 9/7 3:53
Phew, I need help in understanding this.But the banks took on govt money at say 3% to on lend. The govt says these monies are now to be paid back at say 5%.
The banks now have to recover by increasing interest rates.
But the banks could not increase the onlent monies to customers as theses contracts were locked in at 3%.
Is this correct.
Dot please explain in plain Inglis – I am in the micro level.

Indolent
Indolent
July 9, 2023 8:26 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 8:27 pm

Why do they leave out the Philipino and all the other bits of his ethnicity?

Because they’re the importrant bits.
He’s walked into a Crane Operator job on the Wharves at 17 years old, so he’s got an interesting backstory that we’re not being told about.

Tom
Tom
July 9, 2023 8:28 pm

Is Moeen Ali an affirmative action batsman? Sorry — batter, as in the stuff you dip flake in?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 9, 2023 8:29 pm

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Swift play, B-Pay, Pay Pal and yo C-B-D-C’s
tonnes of funny money coming through dat shelf company
based in Pana-ma, so buy that hooded tour sweat-ah
signal to ya daught-ah, now Pride Months is o-vah
thatlookinglikearighttit isvirtuoussosignalit
andthereaintnobandwagonbigenough toholdallofthegreeenstuff
A.I., e-money, hit “like” and we deliver it
streaming
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banks Swiss
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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 8:29 pm

I hope this isn’t doxxing Uncle GMH.

Surely a combo of Uncle Arthur and Bruce Ruxton:

‘Do you know how many wars I died in for you?’, staring at a Kimberleys beach waiting for the Indo invasion.

Pro tip: Turn the spiky hallway runners upside down. That’ll learn ’em.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 8:29 pm

I enjoy what you write here Cassie. You’ve always stood up for me, especially when you know times have been a bit grim, so thanx for that. So sad to read about your stepfather and your mother’s distress as well as your own. This place is good for sharing stuff, especially if it has a political angle. Most things in life do have that when you think about it.

But rest easy. The blog’s a blog.

Hairy’s just announced his Sunday roast is ready. He was hurrying it along because we came in late from swimming our laps and I’ve just had to race to the kitchen and open windows to avert the smoke alarms going off. We’ll watch the second hour of outsiders over dinner tonight. Bad habit of course, watching TV over dinner, but we’re both too tired to talk. lol.

Indolent
Indolent
July 9, 2023 8:31 pm

You’ll note this is from the Department of Defence. They seem to have been conducting the Covid exercise from the very beginning.

U.S. DOD issued contract for ‘COVID-19 Research’ in Ukraine in 2019

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 8:33 pm

Is Moeen Ali an affirmative action batsman?

Dunno Tom. Apparently he’s a ripping bloke.

However, what it means is that Stokes is injured, and if they need a quickfire 40 out of him – which is all they might get – the kipper-munchers realise they may need another 100 on the board first.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 8:34 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Jul 9, 2023 8:22 PM

Oh, hello.

Moeen Ali, of all people has been dragged into the crucial No. 3 spot after Duckett burned an LBW review.

This would appear to be a bit silly.

Well, it is a little early for a nightwatchman.
Although I wonder if McCullum thinks there is still a bit of juice in the wicket from yesterday’s rain and humidity and is thinking it will settle down.
Anyway, back to the main issue. I am only watching in the hope of seeing the Midget Cheating Houso Ranga spill a catch.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 8:36 pm

Plastic hallway runners.
Golden memories.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 9, 2023 8:39 pm

Moeen Ali, of all people has been dragged into the crucial No. 3 spot after Duckett burned an LBW review.

This would appear to be a bit silly.

Either a masterstroke or stupidity.
I’m thinking the former, stay in and allow the ground to dry out, pitch the same.
See what happens.
1997 at Old Trafford I believe Knuckle Dragger. Tubby won the toss and batted first on a mudheap. SR Waugh made twin tons. Taylor decided to bat first because he thought conditions were right for his batters and right for the bowlers at the arse end of the match.
Tubby was a great captain

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 8:39 pm

Muddy’s been quiet.

Tom
Tom
July 9, 2023 8:39 pm

I am only watching in the hope of seeing the Midget Cheating Houso Ranga spill a catch.

Bing Bong! Wrong order — it’s midget houso ranga cheat!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 8:49 pm

He’s walked into a Crane Operator job on the Wharves at 17 years old, so he’s got an interesting backstory that we’re not being told about.

There’s nothing sinister about it – Mayo was a rising young star in the Maritime Union of Australia, he was the protege of a hard line Communist by the name of Brian Manning, he put his hand up for the job of Union organizer, and the crane operators job would have come with the position.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 8:58 pm

There’s nothing sinister about it – Mayo was a rising young star in the Maritime Union of Australia, he was the protege of a hard line Communist by the name of Brian Manning, he put his hand up for the job of Union organizer, and the crane operators job would have come with the position.

Uh, dickhead … Union Organiser is a Paid position in it’s own right, there’s no Crane Operating involved.
As I said, nobody walks into a job on the wharves at 17, let alone a Crane job, you’ve got to wait for someone to retire, and then his son gets first dibs on the job.

miltonf
miltonf
July 9, 2023 9:09 pm

I think all sorts of cozy arrangements are possible when the MUA is involved.

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 9:15 pm

The only damage inflicted by authoring such a disgraceful lie is upon the author himself. (Highlighted text.) It’s a slanderous accusation and the baboon should be made to apologise. Of course, we know that won’t happen.

Here are his words thrown back at him: (See JC at 11.17 pm 8th July.)

“Trans (remove “Trans” and insert JC) thinks he can put one over people here by making abuse laden assertions without a shred of evidence to back up anything he says.”

Oh – and while I’m at it, I’ll republish a list of some of the stalker’s targets over the years.

It’s fun getting Angry Karen to blow up. She’s so pathetic.

Good work Cassie. Karen goes from nought to ten in a split second.

shatterzzz
July 9, 2023 9:18 pm

As I said, nobody walks into a job on the wharves at 17, let alone a Crane job, you’ve got to wait for someone to retire, and then his son gets first dibs on the job.

rare for me to agree with Ed but in this Case .. waterfront jobs are, generally, heriditary and even if you got lucky and scored one no way you’d have a crane operator’s tix at 17 and the experience to fluke such a closed shop number!~ …….

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 9:34 pm

You may be under the impression you are the greatest oracle to grace this forum, but let me tell you, your posts are repetitive and now bordering on boring. New material, Cassie.

Lol, Actually Cassie is a pretty decent oracle.

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 9:35 pm

hzhousewife
Jul 9, 2023 8:16 PM
Mr Mayo, a Kaurareg Aboriginal and Kalkalgal, Erubamle Torres Strait Islander man and union official

Why do they leave out the Philipino and all the other bits of his ethnicity?

Because the power and entitlement only comes with the enumerated heredity.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 9:42 pm

Because the power and entitlement only comes with the enumerated heredity.
Rubbish.
Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders have absolutely zero power to promote and platform anyone, so it’s the non ATSI part of his heritage that is important, not the long extinct Tribe he claims identity with.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 9:44 pm

even if you got lucky and scored one no way you’d have a crane operator’s tix at 17 and the experience to fluke such a closed shop number!~ …….

You would be shown “on the books” as a crane driver, and paid as one, for “services rendered to the union” even if you didn’t have a crane drivers ticket, or the experience.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 9:46 pm

Looks like Scott Boland is our Affirmative Action pick.
The guy has done nothing except leak runs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 9:49 pm

You would be shown “on the books” as a crane driver, and paid as one, for “services rendered to the union” even if you didn’t have a crane drivers ticket, or the experience.,

says a bloke whose life experience of working was digging latrines for the Army and shoveling sheep shit on the farm.
Wake up, dickhead.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 9:52 pm

Looks like Scott Boland is our Affirmative Action pick.

The ‘affirmative action pick’ took 6/7, against England 18 months ago.

Todd Murphy – where art thou?

Yes I know Mark Taylor just said that, but geez.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 9, 2023 9:53 pm

Captain Climate needs to think about bringing the spinner on.

Poms are batting fairly easily atm.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 9:55 pm

says a bloke whose life experience of working was digging latrines for the Army and shoveling sheep shit on the farm.
Wake up, dickhead.

Keep beclowning yourself, Grogs. If you want to add new dimensions to the word “Idiot”, that’s fine by me.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 9:57 pm

KD.

Todd Murphy – where art thou?

Yes I know Mark Taylor just said that, but geez.
…..
Barking Toad

Jul 9, 2023 9:53 PM

Captain Climate needs to think about bringing the spinner on.

This is one of the problems with having a quick as captain.
If you are a hammer, everything’s a nail.
All he can see is fast inswinging yorkers hitting leg stump, or outswingers taking the edge.
With 120 to get, he may as well give Todd a trundle now.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 10:01 pm

Speaking of which – Root gorn via the hammer. Accidental, but there you go.

Here we go. Stokes in.

This will be over in an hour and half, one way or the other.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 10:03 pm

Toddles got wickets bowling on a goat paddock in India.
Once the wickets improved, he did nothing.
Scott Boland had one good performance 18 months ago.
He’s a passenger now, and with Toddles being a Post Turtle,
Australia are trying to win with 2 bowlers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 10:06 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Jul 9, 2023 10:01 PM

Speaking of which – Root gorn via the hammer. Accidental, but there you go.

Mmmyes.
Although it was a leg-side strangle, which I don’t think would have been in their top five strategies on the whiteboard under “How do we get Rooter out?”

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 10:08 pm

KD, Sanchez

We were staying with pals in Portugal and the dude is a mad cricket supporter from Sth Africa. He ended up hating the aussies because he reckoned they were cheating. I don’t watch it, but is what he said true?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 10:08 pm

Scott Boland had one good performance 18 months ago.

Actually three.
Which is three more than Joe Burns.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 10:09 pm

Australia are trying to win with 2 bowlers.

Bring back Burnsy!

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 10:11 pm

Burns wasn’t selected as an fast bowler.
He did score 4 or 5 Test centuries, as well as taking a fair few blinders at second slip.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 10:13 pm

He ended up hating the aussies because he reckoned they were cheating. I don’t watch it, but is what he said true?

Yep. SandpaperGate. 2018.

Warner.
Smith.
Bancroft.

All should have been banned from all forms of the game for life. Bancroft for smashing the pill with sandpaper hidden in his jocks, Warner for organising it and Smith – especially Smith – for being the captain, knowing what the others were doing, ignoring it and then telling everyone at a presser later to ‘move on’.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 10:14 pm

blinders at second slip

Only the blind would say that.

He was in the armchair at first.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 10:15 pm

Toddles to Stkes.
What’s the Ashes record for sixes in an Over?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 10:20 pm

JC

Jul 9, 2023 10:08 PM

KD, Sanchez

We were staying with pals in Portugal and the dude is a mad cricket supporter from Sth Africa. He ended up hating the aussies because he reckoned they were cheating. I don’t watch it, but is what he said true?

Well, yes.
Which gives rise to the “cheating” part of “midget houso cheating ranga” (Australian opener David Warner).
There were two issues.
Not only were they cheating, but they were cheating ineptly and got caught.
The precise mode of cheating was roughing up one side of the ball to encourage it to swing through the air.
The thing is, ball tampering is akin to steroids in American baseball twenty years ago. Everyone is doing it, but no-one is talking about it unless confronted with obvious evidence (to wit, a close up of a big strip of bright yellow sandpaper on the TV).
The devices/substances used for altering the state of the ball include hair product, bottle caps, sugary mints, sandpaper, fingernails, you name it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 9, 2023 10:25 pm

Davey was the only one who didn’t buckle the nut.
Smith cried, Bancroft cried, Davey did his suspension, said nothing, and walked back into the team.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 10:32 pm

Smith cried, Bancroft cried

Ed October cried when ‘Burnsy’ rightly got the arse.

Alamak!
Alamak!
July 9, 2023 10:35 pm

But the banks could not increase the onlent monies to customers as theses contracts were locked in at 3%.

Banks that want to survive match assets and liabilities on duration (short against short, long etc) and ability to earn a positive return given customer and economy risks. This means they lend funds taken from govt actions which cost 2% at more than 2% – how much more depends on the market, the product and what other options they have for the money on offer.

Banks also have other sources of funds besides the Govt like bond issues and shares issued which can have different cost of funds than the RBA cash rate. As for the contractual “lock-in” part thats handled by regular lending rate reviews for cards, overdrafts and floating rates on mortgages. Its more rare to have fixed rates in Oz than e.g. USA where fixed rates are common.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 10:40 pm

KD at 10:13.
The other great unspoken truth is that every bowler on the team would have known the ball was being tampered with.
Have you ever known a fast bowler not to carry on like a pork chop if the ball is returned without the utmost care being taken for it’s condition.
You’d get off lighter if you beaned their first-born with a claw hammer.
But this ball is gently played 15 metres across lush grass to Bancroft, is returned to the bowler looking like one side has been dragged across the Nullarbor behind a truck, and no-one notices?
That will be a chapter in Little Davey’s book, no doubt, and might be his selection insurance policy.

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 10:50 pm

Cronkite is never around when you need him. He should’ve commented on Steve Milloy’s piece in the WSJ. If he stopped focusing on Trannies and spent time concentrating on gerbil warming bullshit, he would’ve posted this and talked about it.

Hottest Days Ever? Don’t Believe It
‘Average global temperature’ is a meaningless measure, and comparisons to 125,000 years ago are preposterous.

By

Steve Milloy

July 7, 2023 5:38 pm ET

The global-warming industry has declared that July 3 and 4 were the two hottest days on Earth on record. The reported average global temperature on those days was 62.6 degrees Fahrenheit, supposedly the hottest in 125,000 years. The claimed temperature was derived from the University of Maine’s Climate Reanalyzer, which relies on a mix of satellite temperature data and computer-model guesstimation to calculate estimates of temperature.

One obvious problem with the updated narrative is that there are no satellite data from 125,000 years ago. Calculated estimates of current temperatures can’t be fairly compared with guesses of global temperature from thousands of years ago.

A more likely alternative to the 62.6-degree estimate is something around 57.5 degrees. The latter is an average of actual surface temperature measurements taken around the world and processed on a minute-by-minute basis by a website called temperature.global. The numbers have been steady this year, with no spike in July.

Moreover, the notion of “average global temperature” is meaningless. Average global temperature is a concept invented by and for the global-warming hypothesis. It is more a political concept than a scientific one. The Earth and its atmosphere is large and diverse, and no place is meaningfully average.

Average global temperature also changes on seasonal basis: Temperatures are higher globally during the Northern Hemisphere’s summer because of more sunlight-trapping land. In this case, the Climate Reanalyzer’s estimated temperatures in early July were skewed by a heat wave in the Antarctic, where areas may have warmed some Antarctic temperatures by as much as 43 degrees. This is likely the explanation for the difference between the 62.6-degree and 57.5-degree estimates.

Another problem is that our temperature data are imprecise. It has been estimated that 96% of U.S. temperature stations produce corrupted data. About 92% of them reportedly have a margin of error of a full degree Celsius, or nearly 2 degrees Fahrenheit. The lack of precision of reported temperatures, whether estimated or measured, is not reassuring.

Temperature stations also tend to be limited to populated areas. Much of the Earth’s surface isn’t measured at all. Although the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration likes to present global temperatures starting in 1880, regular temperature collection in places such as the north and south poles began much later.

It isn’t plausible to characterize Earth’s warming in a single average number, especially when we don’t really know what that number is today, much less from 125,000 years ago.

Mr. Milloy is a senior legal fellow at the Energy and Environment Legal Institute.

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 10:55 pm

How freaking “preposterous” is this? Gerbil warming is supposed to be measuring what are essentially small wiggles in temps and these morons are suggesting they can ascertain the global temp from 125,000 years ago, compare it to now and suggest we’re living in a hothouse. How freaking bad has some areas of science gotten to is incredible.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 11:00 pm

An afterthought, Cassie. As a very good friend, why did you not go into bat for Lizzie when she was under the pump from numerous posters? It’s rather revealing that you come out a-guns-ablazing now when the dust is well and truly settled.

What a friend you are!

No. Really, I must protest at this. At times here Cassie was the only friend I had, and she provided a support for me over some very nasty scenes. To say she never spoke up is just totally untrue. I also know her personally. When I broke my foot in 2020 and we met up with other Cats at the pub, me in my moon boot, she was so solicitous to me, helping me to walk to the carpark. We’ve always been like sisters in spite of our age gap but re my foot she was like a very considerate daughter, just the sort of daughter she is to her mother in the current sad situation. She is a very generous person. Don’t diss Cass. She is also one of the best commenters here.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 11:03 pm

If Brook and Stkes (h/t Googlery) bat for 40 minutes after lunch, the fat lady can start warming up.

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 11:05 pm

Liz

Yes she did support you as we recall. Angry Karen is just attempting to recreate history because she’s a delusional little zero with nothing to add to any discussions.

Nothing really works for her – even trying to sound smart by being a nasty little worm.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 9, 2023 11:06 pm

Don’t diss Cass. She is also one of the best commenters here.

No argument from this little black duck.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 11:07 pm

Hairy tells me the crickit is going to be settled tonight. Thank goodness, perhaps he’ll get to bed a bit earlier in future if that is the case. He was reminiscing to me over dinner about the old days on The Hill, and the throwing of bottles and cans of beer. Mostly, he says, they were empty, but a few were full, tho’ the worst sort were those thrown half full because the drinker had a fit of absolute anger and disgust. You had to duck and usually you got wet with a stream of flying beer regardless, he says, a bit wistfully I thought. Glory days, boys, glory days.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 9, 2023 11:08 pm

Stokes gone for 13.

Getting interesting now at 5/161 chasing 251.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 11:09 pm

Don’t worry about the reliability of GMH’s memory stretching back weeks or months.
He usually can’t remember who he was stoushing with on the previous page.
Dover moving from 250 comments per page to 100 isn’t going to help GMH at all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 11:11 pm

Rooter and Stkes out to leg-side strangles.
That is lazy crickit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 11:12 pm

Bristow’s big chance.

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 11:17 pm

Don’t worry about the reliability of GMH’s memory stretching back weeks or months.

The boring idiot brought up the argument with Trans (that other drunken imbecile) from last night. Trans started the stoush with just an abuse laden comment and then when he was asked to support his assertion he began something resembling a mouth frothing fit. He went spastic.

The one thing I do and have always done is to at least support my assertions. Nasty Karen suggested I don’t.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 9, 2023 11:17 pm

Would love to see the chubby ranga run out again

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 9, 2023 11:18 pm

Now 6 for. Ranga out

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 11:21 pm

Bristow goneski.
I think he might be changed out.
His keeping has been ordinary as well.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 11:23 pm

Just realised that it is three years ago to the very day that I broke my foot.

No exercise for months due to my foot and resultant DVT, not much walking, Covid lockdowns, and swimming pool closed. Big cancer-scare op in 2021 No wonder I put on a few more kilos than are good for me. I eat when anxious. Managed to counter that eventually, and then of course the world opened up again, and wacko, we’re off to the UK, then the US, then the UK again this year, with cruises and other small trips also and the tendency was to eat with the joy of being free again. I eat when happy.

In fact, I enjoy eating far too much no matter what my state of mind!

I find as I’m getting older though I tend to drink less. …. There’s a predictive text shadow that comes up on this comment box now and it just put in ‘drink more’.
The hide of the thing. A single glass a nite if I’m feeling up to it these days.

And a G & T whenever I want one to kick-start the evening.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 11:27 pm

Thanks John H for your information about medication for adult autism.

It could be very helpful.

Re Vit D, I have had everyone in the family on supplementary Vit D ever since Covid. The evidence for it is very strong, and not all of us get the sunlight we need.

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 11:29 pm

No wonder I put on a few more kilos than are good for me.

Yeah, I recall you saying you’d flabbed on 25 kilos. That’s quite a lot Liz.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 9, 2023 11:29 pm

Mark Dice:

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talks about Operation Mockingbird, the CIA’s covert propaganda program to manipulate the mainstream media and the American people through the use of numerous assets who. RFK Jr. brought it up during an interview with Lex Fridman who was completely clueless.

RFK Jr. Blows the Lid Off Operation Mockingbird and How the CIA Manipulates American News Media

C.L.
C.L.
July 9, 2023 11:38 pm

Watch the video and tell me which nation is world No. 1.

Johnny Rotten
July 9, 2023 11:39 pm

Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can.

– Arthur Ashe

Johnny Rotten
July 9, 2023 11:46 pm

C.L.
Jul 9, 2023 11:38 PM
Watch the video and tell me which nation is world No. 1.

The USA is still Number One. However, they need Trump back Big Time to at least steady the ship.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 9, 2023 11:52 pm

Tony Heller:

7 Jul 2023

The press claims Earth had its hottest temperature ever this week. There seems to be no limit to how absurd and dishonest they are willing to be.

Climate Fakery Part 7

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
July 9, 2023 11:58 pm

testing blah

calli
calli
July 10, 2023 12:02 am

Hi Cats! Here’s a longish travelogue for the late nighters. If tedious, please scroll as it involves gardens and gardening.

……

Lost Gardens of Heligan

These extensive gardens are near St Austell in Cornwall. My interest was first piqued twenty or so years ago when my brother gave me a book on the gardens and their discovery. The tale was one of those exciting gardening treasure stories – not a Viking hoard, or a Roman pavement, but an overgrown ruin. The owners bought the house, a very large house, as a doer upperer and along with it came a tract of land. Behind the house in the mountain of jungle there was a suggestion of paths and walls and old glasshouses. It was much like my first house at Epping in Sydney, but on a mammoth scale.

Over the years and with great labour the lost garden was rediscovered, uncovered piece by piece, path by path. Walls held up with ivy and other parasites were repointed and recapped. The little Italian garden was replanted, its central fountain playing once more, and the wonder of the place, the glasshouses, were repaired. A Melon House, a Peach House and one for the exotics that we take for granted. And the cold frames for the kitchen and flower gardens, their carefully set out parterres once more providing massive amounts of fruits and vegetables and cut flowers. Lining the paths – step over pleached apples of every description, augmented with pears and figs.

It’s now a great money spinner, but its delight for me is the accessibility for people with disabilities who can wander (or wheel) freely through the place. Visiting is timed so as not to have too many in the garden at once.

Another find – the very rare Davidia, the handkerchief tree, plus a collection of species rhododendrons just at the end of their seasonal triumph. Trees like evergreen magnolia, commonplace in Australia, also grow outside here, as do a great variety of fuchsias, all dancing and nodding on long stems.

Worth a look for green, and not so green thumbs if you are visiting Cornwall, just for its romantic history, replete with happenstance and hard work (my favourite type). Naturally, the Duchy is full of gardens to visit, many with plants quite exotic to Britain but growable due to the unique climate tempered by the Gulf Stream.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 10, 2023 12:04 am

All should have been banned from all forms of the game for life. Bancroft for smashing the pill with sandpaper hidden in his jocks, Warner for organising it and Smith – especially Smith – for being the captain, knowing what the others were doing, ignoring it and then telling everyone at a presser later to ‘move on’.

Cannot be reiterated enough.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 10, 2023 12:11 am

Mutt of the weekend…
She actually looks very much perfect, I’m going to go all out for this one.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2023 12:13 am

Thanks for the travelogue Calli. Have enjoyed it.

Meanwhile, cricket has gone to shit. 6/221 – 30 to win.

calli
calli
July 10, 2023 12:15 am

Heh. Because I’m a parsimonious bugger, I’m sitting in the Free Wifi booth quayside here in Iceland with some of the ship’s crew. 😀

I won’t write too much about the country right now, have to get my head around the beauty and ruggedness of the place. Also something odd…the sun didn’t set last night. We are above the arctic circle, the land of the midnight sun. Because of that all pervasive current from the south, the daytime temperatures are quite mild – it’s low twenties and t-shirts. There is still a dusting of last winter’s snow on the higher peaks and troughs that look like white fluffy aprons against the dark basalt. The rest is a brilliant green, mostly short cropped vegetation with a very few trees.

The grinding action of forgotten glaciers has left behind a landscape that appears to be quarried blue metal. Piles of broken, pounded and differentiated rock sprouting tufts of grass like a teenager’s chin.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2023 12:17 am

sprouting tufts of grass like a teenager’s chin.

Haha

calli
calli
July 10, 2023 12:22 am

I visited another garden today. When winters are six months long and the days consist of four hours of weird twilight, you can understand why flowers and all things green are so important to the locals. Tender plants are coddled along in green houses and pricked out at the first hint of reliable warm weather.

In among the permanent specimens all manner of bedding plants from decorative cabbages to fuchsias and my favourite, Mecanopsis cambrica, the blue poppy. Also many species roses of great hardiness. And towers of delphiniums, even overtopping the Beloved’s 6’3”.

That’s it from me today. We’ll be off soon to the next port, this time at anchor with the little tenders whirling around the great ship like little hungry piglets.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2023 12:23 am

7/230. 21 to win. Starc 5 wickets.

calli
calli
July 10, 2023 12:27 am

I made a little mistake in the Heligan piece.

A parterre is a decorative garden for strolling and gawping at. The business end of edible production is, of course, the potager.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2023 12:29 am

Captain Climate bowling shit. Belted for 6

calli
calli
July 10, 2023 12:31 am

Do you reckon it will be safe for me to mention the crickit tonight? The ship is full of cricket-cranky Poms so I’ve kept my head below the parapet.

I feel torn – I detest our current crop of sportsblokes, with very few exceptions, but I still want them to win. The closer the better too.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2023 12:38 am

All over red rover. Ashes still up for grabs.

Finishing my port and off to bed.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 10, 2023 12:39 am

Keep the head down Calli.

They’ll be gloating.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 12:40 am

Whining soap dodgers win it!

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:03 am
Fair Shake
Fair Shake
July 10, 2023 4:04 am

Visited Salzburg today.
Dearest Mother, i have completed most of my symphony but the wifi keeps droopen aut. I can attest to it being very hot , i would say its that hottest two days this week. Give my regards to father and please ask these tour buses to ferforken off.
Yours in music
Mozart A Von Snitzen-gruber

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:05 am
Fair Shake
Fair Shake
July 10, 2023 4:05 am

Doh! Apologies Tom, its the Munich beer.

Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
July 10, 2023 4:14 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 10, 2023 4:25 am

Thanks Tom.

JC
JC
July 10, 2023 4:47 am

How can anyone not love the Musk

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Zuck is a cuck

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 10, 2023 4:48 am

More climate change stupidity, Hun:

A leading business group has called for Australia to slash its greenhouse gas emissions by more than 70 per cent by the year 2035.

In 2021 the then Morrison government committed Australia to net zero emissions by 2050 and last year the Albanese government mandated an interim target of 43 per cent by 2030.

But debate on what the target should be for 2035 is set to ramp up, with green groups telling a Climate Change Authority (CCA) enquiry that Australia should aim for 100 per cent emissions cuts by 2035, and the business organisation the Carbon Market Institute (CMI) arguing the figure should be “well over 70 per cent”.

The acting chief executive of the CMI, Kurt Winter, said Australia was “in an urgent race to net zero and beyond”.

“We need to commit to cutting emissions much deeper by 2035, and to taking decarbonisation action more widely across the economy,” Mr Winter said.

Other organisations were more circumspect in their submissions to the CCA enquiry.

The Insurance Council of Australia said the government should “set a science-based emissions reduction target for 2035” consistent with Paris Agreement goals of limiting global warming to well below 2°C.

In its submission, the Business Council of Australia (BCA) did not specify an emissions targets for 2035, but called for the government to outline a trajectory of emissions reductions by announcing targets for 2035, 2040 and 2045.

The BCA also called for “decarbonisation pathways” for all sectors of the economy.

The burden of reducing emissions was currently falling to the electricity sector and heavy industry, the BCA said, with the government’s safeguard mechanism targeting 215 of Australia’s most heavily-polluting facilities.

Mr Winter said Australia could cut emissions by 70 per cent by 2035 if the government “looks across the entire economy”.

He called for the government to consider expanding its safeguard mechanism scheme – which only came into effect on July 1 – to include all businesses that emitted more than 25,000 tonnes of greenhouse gas annually, instead of the current level of 100,000 tonnes.

Meanwhile the Climate Council called for even greater ambition, saying Australia should aim to reach net zero by 2035.

That position “aligns with the latest climate science, our responsibilities under the Paris Agreement, and the scale of action necessary to protect communities in Australia and worldwide,” a Climate Council spokesman said.

The importance of the government receiving “strong, independent, and science-based advice in this moment cannot be overstated,” the spokesman added.

Signatories to the Paris Agreement, including Australia, have agreed to announce their 2035 emissions targets (called a Nationally Determined Contribution) by 2025.

They just don’t let up, despite demonstrably wrong predictions. Go away dickheads.

Crossie
Crossie
July 10, 2023 4:59 am

They just don’t let up, despite demonstrably wrong predictions. Go away dickheads.

The nicest thing you can say about all of them is that they are in the grip of mass insanity. The only thing that will save the world from their lunacy is to lock them up.

Let’s see what happens in Netherlands, it may be an indicator of which way the world is going.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 10, 2023 5:05 am

Credlin & Abbott launch a podcast.
Unless they are going to review the mistakes of his government, why bother ?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
July 10, 2023 5:09 am

Am in downtown Munich and the bells go on and on und on und on. But but ist see nein train kommen.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
July 10, 2023 6:11 am

In Karaoke bar in Munchen. There is nothing like the sound of german electro pop songs being sung badly. …sounds like die voice to Parliament. No wait I can walk away. Ist gut.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 10, 2023 6:33 am

Well.

I arose, all bright and twinkly, only to find the soap-dodging kipper aficionados won the crikkit by three wickets.

Straya had about 100 less runs to play with than they had at the same ground four years back. Lyon or no Lyon, that is a significant handicap because you can only defend smallish fourth-innings totals so often.

If only one of ‘our’ highly-touted top order batsmen had contributed more than five runs over two innings.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 10, 2023 6:48 am

Aha. Daniel Cherny in The Hun:

But while Scott Boland struggled to make inroads, and Murphy was thrown to the wolves at the end of the chase, going through the end of England’s second innings with a fine-toothed comb would not be addressing where Australia truly lost this Test.

Between them, David Warner, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne and Steve Smith have made 82 Test centuries.

In this match, they combined for 139 runs across eight innings.

When taking into account the top four producing such paltry offerings, Australia was lucky to get as close as it did.

told youse

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 10, 2023 7:25 am

Pieces of Eight etc

We went to the Ulster Museum today to look at the Spanish Armada collection. Following their 1588 defeat by Francis Drake and Co, some of the surviving ships fled north around Scotland and then west of Ireland. One of them, the Girona, got wrecked and sank with the loss of 1500 lives.

There’s a good collection of artefacts in the Museum including three guns and a lot of personal items, including jewellery. In one case was a heap of gold coins – known as “pieces of eight” if you remember your Treasure Island, along with silver coins too.

That was followed by Carrickfergus Castle, north of Belfast. Dating from the 11th century, it has been in constant use including into the 20th century – its last starring role was as an air raid shelter.

Over the hundreds of years it has been hacked about, with gun firing fissures piercing the walls, and then anti-ship guns on swivelling rails put in place. Underground storage for shells was added too. Although a small castle, it was still a fascinating example of the type.

On to Londonderry, or if you’re really Irish, just Derry.

Leon L.
Leon L.
July 10, 2023 7:35 am

Heads up: New Monday morning thread is up.

Chris
Chris
July 10, 2023 7:37 am

Over the hundreds of years it has been hacked about, with gun firing fissures piercing the walls, and then anti-ship guns on swivelling rails put in place. Underground storage for shells was added too. Although a small castle, it was still a fascinating example of the type.

Inevitable fate of a castle worth having; location, location, location.
I will put it on my list.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
July 10, 2023 7:39 am

Just read the 25 comments on the article about celebrities like Cate Blandchick not helping the ‘yes’ campaign. None in in her favour.

It was 23 years ago that Cate Blanchett was feted beyond her intellectual capacity by Kevin Rudd with the aid of the Misses Bonnie and a fawning elite.

I recall she was even published in the Australian, the writing a banal Year-7 level article. We the readers and subscribers were left dumber and less informed in reading it.

Please Cate, I know it can be confusing, but the words you speak in your movies are not your words but the words of great authors with great minds-I’ll leave it at that. Stick to acting, you’re good at that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 10, 2023 7:42 am

Ed Case
Jul 9, 2023 9:49 PM
You would be shown “on the books” as a crane driver, and paid as one, for “services rendered to the union” even if you didn’t have a crane drivers ticket, or the experience.,

says a bloke whose life experience of working was digging latrines for the Army and shoveling sheep shit on the farm.
Wake up, dickhead.

As a skin suit full of sh1t, who better than Turd Case to make this judgement?

shatterzzz
July 10, 2023 7:42 am

Brrrrrrh! .. off early for my Monday swim .. with the Mayor of Fairfield closing the pool, between 10.30am & 2.30pm from now ’til September, to save on energy & staffing costs, gotta go earlier than my normal 9-ish ..
Monday is an OAP ‘freebie” 5.15am thru 9.30am entry so to get my K in before 10 gotta go earlier ……..!

Chris
Chris
July 10, 2023 7:44 am

Weren’t the ‘pieces of 8’ 8 reales, silver, with a cross image; cut into fours, the ‘quarter’ became what Americans called ‘two bits’? They were the international US Dollar of their time, silver thalers used internationally and overmarked by some like the Sydney Mint holey dollars and the Dutch East Indies VOC mints.

The common gold one I had no idea of, but a quick google tells me they were 8 Escudos, possibly called gold doubloons.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 10, 2023 7:44 am

When taking into account the top four producing such paltry offerings, Australia was lucky to get as close as it did.

Quite apart from the failing fab four batterers, there is the little matter of the Poms catching, which looked like they thought Dukes was a brand of soap bar.
If Rooter and the tubby wanderer behind the stumps had hung onto their catches, Straya is out for under 150 in the first innings and gets belted.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 10, 2023 7:46 am

The Insurance Council of Australia wants more action by government to slash emissions, meanwhile there people still living in caravans and back sheds after the floods of last year.
They thought they had insurance.

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