Open Thread – Wed 20 Sept 2023


Still Life with Bouquet, August Renoir, 1871

Subscribe
Notify of
guest

1.5K Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 11:16 am

NYT Does Some Surprising Journalism and Finds That Deadly Missile Strike On Kostantinovka Market Was Caused by Ukrainian Air Defense Mishap – NOT Russian Attack

Not many things are more surprising these days than when the mainstream media does some real investigating of facts that don’t align with the preferred narrative of their Globalist overlords. That’s rare.

And if the journalism finds facts that debunk the propaganda disseminated by Ukraine and the NATO apparatus, then it is an even rarer occasion that needs celebrating.

To top it all, the most surprising aspect is that the disclosure of the truth about the missile attack in Kostantyinovka comes as Zelensky arrives in New York for the United Nations General Assembly.

On September 6th, a missile strike on the city of Kostantinovka, in eastern Ukraine, turned out to be one of the deadliest in the country in the last months, resulting in the killing of at least 15 civilians and injuring more than 30 others.

The missile struck a market, ‘piercing windows and walls and wounding some victims beyond recognition’.

President Zelensky predictably blamed the Russians for the attack, and as usual, MSM parroted the narrative, until The New York Times decided to do some surprise journalism:

“But evidence collected and analyzed by The New York Times, including missile fragments, satellite imagery, witness accounts and social media posts, strongly suggests the catastrophic strike was the result of an errant Ukrainian air defense missile fired by a Buk launch system.”

A mishap with Ukrainian Air Defense is nothing new, since Ukrainian missiles are becoming famous for going stray and crashing down on civilians – even misfiring into Polish territory.

Experts heard by the Times say the missile may have gone off course for electronic malfunction, or because of damage to the guidance fin.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 20, 2023 11:19 am

This Voice thing.
If it is not a racist apartheid institution then what is it?
It would have to be a trade union for the so-called Aboriginal Industry.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 20, 2023 11:20 am

The other critical factor in great teaching is a teacher’s ability to reduce subject matter to its central, and most cogent elements. This is commonly called “summarising”, and you would be surprised ( or would you?) how few teachers incorporate summaries into their teaching model.

A skill which could have been applied to the wordy 126 (or however many) page “voice document, and in fact also to the first page of wordy gobbledegook.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 11:20 am

Spinning the Press on Hunter Biden

By Lee Fang, RealClearInvestigations, leefang.com
September 19, 2023

Yet the White House is still hoping it can still instruct journalists on how to cover the story.

Shortly after McCarthy’s impeachment inquiry announcement, President Biden’s White House staff circulated a memo, instructing media outlets on how to cover the news. In bold type, the memo claimed that the entire Hunter Biden conflict of interest scandal had been “refuted” and “debunked” – language that was adopted in media reports about the inquiry in Vox, NBC News and CNN.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
September 20, 2023 11:22 am

Speaking of Rob Sitch, why hasn’t he been cancelled for spending much of the 90s in blackface.? Must go to the right dinner parties.

Morsie
Morsie
September 20, 2023 11:26 am

The Voice while ensuring transfer of wealth to the usual suspects will also ensure any future Liberal government will have to comply with Labor ideology so it’s a twofer

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 11:27 am

Mark Levin’s The Democrat Party Hates America

Once again, Mark Levin has done a great service to the Republic by writing a fully documented, highly pointed book on a topic of vital national interest.

Published today by the Threshold Editions imprint of Simon & Schuster, The Democrat Party Hates America is required reading for anyone who follows politics in America.

That most assuredly includes those who identify as Democrats, though most will shun the book because it is too much of a challenge to their sense of self-worth and virtue.

For the few who have the courage to read it, the book will be a revelation. I make no secret that I was born into a family of active Democrats, and until reality intruded well into adulthood, I shared that political attachment. I have since regarded it as a mistaken affiliation, but after reading this book I now have a sense a shame.

If it is widely enough read, and I predict that it will be a runaway best-seller, the book will change the way the public understands one of our two major political parties, forever tainting the Democrats for the racism, hypocrisy, lack of principle, and sheer ruthless pursuit of power at any cost that have permeated their party throughout its history.

If you have family members, colleagues, associates, or friends who are vocal Democrats and who do not shy away from political discussions, The Democrat Party Hates America is a cornucopia of evidence that you can use to persuade them out of their delusion that they are supporting a worthwhile political movement.

The concluding chapter eight, “Stalin Would be Proud” brings home the current accelerating slide toward authoritarianism.

It is a fitting and chilling conclusion to a book everyone should read.

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 11:28 am

Well, Magda’s making up for blackfacing “Mammie” by encouraging friends and family to snitch on pesky No supporters in their social orbits.

It’s penance and self-protection, progressive style.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 11:32 am

The trough beckons: Clinton Global Initiative launches new Ukraine inititiave

Where money amasses, Clintons follow.

So it didn’t take long for the Clintons to suddenly get their interest in “philanthropy” back after a long droughty hiatus.

According to the Associated Press:

The need to “Keep Going” is the theme of this year’s Clinton Global Initiative, or CGI, as Bill Clinton, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Clinton Foundation Vice Chair Chelsea Clinton say they will convene political, business and philanthropic leaders to build on the momentum of the conference’s return last year after a six-year hiatus.

“Giving up and giving in is a surefire guarantee that we will not make progress on the major challenges that face us,” Bill Clinton said in his opening statement. “Being distracted and majoring in the minors may be momentary good policy, but it’s a terrible way to run a railroad — or a country.”

CGI announced numerous new programs Monday that it hopes will gather new monetary commitments and engagement, including gender equality and continued support for the people of Ukraine.

As for Ukraine, well, Ukraine would get abortion, lots of abortions, as would every other place their Global Initiative’s gelid hand touches:

Hillary Clinton announced that gender equality will now be the fourth pillar of CGI’s activities, along with fighting climate change, economic inclusion and public health issues.

“It is time to close the wage gap once and for all,” Hillary Clinton said. “It is time to protect and expand access to reproductive health care, abortion and quality maternity care once and for all. It is time to ensure that every girl everywhere can get the education she deserves.

Seems there’s more than one way to kill off Ukrainians. Who needs Russian rockets?

Which raises questions as to why Pope Francis is openly shilling for this group, which not only openly promotes abortion, but is corrupt and scandal-plagued to boot.

The Clinton Global Initiative was specifically planning to start something called the CGI Ukraine Action Network, drawing in financial pledges to bankroll NGOs working in the country.

Seems Ukraine’s been down this road before with the Soros bunch, but no matter.

The Clintons will be their new Soroses. And with Ukraine the most corrupt nation in Europe according to international raters of such things, what could go wrong?

The Clintons will shake down corporations for “donations,” likely with the implicit promise that political favors will come to them in return once they regain power, and corporations will line up to donate.

Nobody rides for free with the Clintons.

Now that Joe Biden is falling apart as president, it’s not surprising to see the Clintons get active on the money front with the aim of regaining political power.

Donations to their foundation from foreign sources soared as Hillary’s presidential prospects rose, and skidded to nearly nothing when her prospects were squelched. By 2021, they fell 93% from their 2006 peak.

Gee, what did that coincide with in Hillary’s career?

Issues & Insights did an excellent piece showing that curious correlation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2023 11:40 am

feelthebern

Sep 20, 2023 10:25 AM

What booze are you planning on bringing back Sancho-san ?

Half of it is mundane stuff – Vodka for espresso martinis, Campari, Plymouth gin for a friend.
I bought two bottles of nice gin.
Ki No Bi from Kyoto and another untried one from Hiroshima.
We have 650 mls to reach our limit. I am thinking about another small bottle of crafty gin.
Funny. The girl in the shop sternly asked me to confirm that I was taking it out of the country to deduct the GST.
I waved my hand over the 4 litres of booze and said “Our flight is tomorrow” with a raised eyebrow.
She laughed.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2023 11:41 am

Trump will be fine in the end. Go to court and all the evidence will surface.

—–

Stew Peters Network:

The state of Georgia is not blue or purple but it’s red and was stolen in 2020.
Rachel Alexander, reporter for the Arizona Sun Times, is here to detail the witch hunt against former Trump attorney John Eastman.
In order for Joe Biden to “win” Georgia they needed election workers to find boxes of hidden votes.
They did this after they chased away election observers the night of the 2020 election.
The fraud was so blatant that the Stalinist DA Fani Willis must prosecute the Deep State’s political opponents to cover up their crimes.
President Trump’s former attorney John Eastman is being put on trial in California as a court attempts to strip him of his law license for challenging the 2020 election.
Even if the court succeeds and disbars Eastman, the trial has revealed there was real voter fraud in Georgia.
Garland Favorito from VoterGA has testified on Eastman’s behalf and has made the prosecution look partisan and dimwitted.
John Eastman is one of the premiere legal scholars in the entire country.
The radical left is demonstrating they will go after anyone who believes in 2020 voter fraud.
The judge in this trial is showing clear signs of partisan behavior because she is a progressive hack.
The communist radical have no shame and will not stop until they put Trump behind bars.

NEVER FORGET Georgia Was Stolen In 2020: Georgia Voter Fraud Expert Stumps California Court

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2023 11:42 am

If we drank Scotch we would of been in heaven in the grog shop in Shinjuku.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 11:43 am

Beautiful warm day in Sydney. Taking 18 year old granddaughter to lunch for her birthday at restaurant on Manly beach promenade.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2023 11:44 am

All those election workers complicit need to be publicly flogged.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 11:44 am

Morsie at 11:26 – yep, it’ll be like trying to govern with a real time P&C committee with the High Court calling the touch line. The Senate will look like a walk in the park.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2023 11:45 am

If we want more kids reading, we need fewer MAs.

No.
We need parents and grandparents reading books to pre-school kids at every opportunity.

Robert Sewell
September 20, 2023 11:45 am

Robert Sewell
Sep 20, 2023 11:26 AM
OCO:

It probably doesn’t need to be said, but…I’m not saying there shouldn’t be wheelchair ramps to the sea. However, rocking up to at any old beach and expecting there will be one there waiting for you to roll down seems a little unreasonable.

What’s he going to do when he gets to the end of the ramp and rolls into the sand? Demand the beach be covered with concrete?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 11:45 am

Good engineering!

Woman accidentally discovers swallowed AirPods are acid resistant for nine hours (18 Sep, via Instapundit)

A woman has been reunited with her AirPods Pro after a nine-hour-long trip to the emergency room that ended with an emergency endoscopy.

On June 14, 2023, Moe Kennedy found herself in an unusual predicament when she accidentally swallowed one of her AirPods Pro while asleep.

When Kennedy arrived, she had to explain her situation to the medical staff. They were surprised and amused to hear that her AirPods Pro were still working. Kennedy’s mother could connect to them and hear her daughter’s stomach sounds and laughter.

Apple makes really tough idiot-proof stuff.

Tom
Tom
September 20, 2023 11:50 am

Where money amasses, Clintons follow.

Yeah, nah.

The Clintons used the State Department to enrich themselves when the Clinton presidency was just a memory.

The Bidens are using the White House after cheating their way into the presidency.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 11:50 am

will also ensure any future Liberal government will have to comply with Labor ideology so it’s a twofer

That’s all I see the Voice as being – an instrument to render Australia ungovernable, if the peasants ever have the temerity to elect a Liberal Government.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 11:53 am

Vicki
Sep 20, 2023 11:43 AM

Beautiful warm day in Sydney. Taking 18 year old granddaughter to lunch for her birthday at restaurant on Manly beach promenade.

Vicki,

Here? – https://www.manlypavilion.com.au/menus

My Wife likes – https://www.limani.com.au/wp-content/uploads/menu_special923.pdf

and as she does not drink, I get the 2 glasses of wine – aiming for Friday

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 11:57 am

We need parents and grandparents reading books to pre-school kids at every opportunity.

And what a pleasure and privilege it is.

One grandson (yr6) is reading at yr9 level. Problem is finding appropriate “advanced” books without grubby young adult content. He needs advanced language without the soft sexualised angst.

I suggested to his Mum that he try some old “ripping yarns” of the classic variety – authors like Rider Haggard, Robert Louis Stevenson, Jack London, Wilkie Collins and the like. It just so happens that some are on my bookshelves, so I might pop a selection on the bedside table for his next visit.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 11:59 am

Morsie
Sep 20, 2023 11:26 AM
The Voice while ensuring transfer of wealth to the usual suspects will also ensure any future Liberal government will have to comply with Labor ideology so it’s a twofer

The Marxist LayBore Feral Guv’ment is killing the generators of the Wealth of this Great Nation. Once the Wealth has gone then it will be all about scrambling after scraps.

And then no more Taxpayer funded Pensions for the ‘Pollies’ or Gold Cards. Think about that you stupid ‘Pollies’.

But, before that happens, I think that it will be time for pitchforks and ‘off with their heads’ for the ‘Pollies’.

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 12:00 pm

And Kipling. Kim, Captains Courageous et al.

Tewwibly racey-racist in colonial microaggressions. And some macro ones too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 12:02 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/09/the-left-exposed-by-a-woman-to-celebrate.html

Wasn’t it Bess Price who gave birth at 13, and said that “going back to school with the baby on her hip” was the best days work she ever did?

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 12:06 pm

I suggested to his Mum that he try some old “ripping yarns” of the classic variety – authors like Rider Haggard, Robert Louis Stevenson, Jack London, Wilkie Collins and the like. It just so happens that some are on my bookshelves, so I might pop a selection on the bedside table for his next visit.

And Joseph Conrad, Charles Dickens, Jules Verne, H G Wells, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Roald Dahl, J R R Tolkien and so many many more.

Alamak!
September 20, 2023 12:09 pm

calli> Some old-school favourites might work. Examples include Narnia series by CS Lewis, Harry Potter(ofc), Anything by Roald Dahl, Secret Diary of Adrian Mole, Huckleberry Finn, Sword in the Stone etc.

Others they might like(my sons did)

– The Lost Thing by Shaun tan
– Coraline by Neil Gaiman
– Anime series in book form like Spy Family, Attack of Titan

Viva
Viva
September 20, 2023 12:12 pm

In a UK Times interview, former Tory “leader” William Hague thinks world leaders must prepare for a second Trump presidency by clamping down on divisive social media posts which “undermine” democratic society. Not content with that he comes up with the following observation.

Seen from Beijing, all that is needed for military coercion and political persuasion to isolate Taiwan decisively is one period, however brief, of uncertainty and erratic signals from the White House

What does he think has been dribbling out of the White House since 2020?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 12:13 pm

Never get of the Wrong Side of the DemoCraps – And America has the Hide to Critcise Russia

US GOJ Totally Politicised along with the other 3 Alphabet US Government Departments – Government BureauCraps purely extension arm of the DemoCraps

Justice Department Probe Scrutinizes Elon Musk Perks at Tesla Going Back Years

Federal prosecutors also have sought information about transactions between Tesla and other entities related to the billionaire

Federal prosecutors are scrutinizing personal benefits Tesla may have provided Elon Musk since 2017—longer than previously known—as part of a criminal investigation examining issues including a proposed house for the chief executive.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York – (Seem to be Always involved in “Get Trump & His Supporters”_ also has sought information about transactions between Tesla and other entities connected to the billionaire, people familiar with the investigation said. Prosecutors have referenced the involvement of a grand jury.

The new information indicates that federal prosecutors have a broader interest in the actions of Musk and Tesla than was previously known and that they are pursuing potential criminal charges. The Wall Street Journal reported last month that the Justice Department is investigating Tesla’s use of company resources on a secret project that was described internally as a house for Musk.

The house effort was known within the carmaker as “Project 42,” and plans called for an expansive glass building to be constructed near Tesla’s Austin-area factory and headquarters.

The Securities and Exchange Commission has opened a separate civil investigation into the project, the Journal has reported.

On X, the social-media platform formerly known as Twitter, Musk has said there isn’t a glass house “built, under construction or planned.” He didn’t address past work or plans; neither he nor his representatives have responded to requests for comment.

Last year, Musk explored building a home for himself on a horse farm across the Colorado River from the factory known as Giga Texas—and met with an architect to brainstorm designs—but “put off building it,” Walter Isaacson wrote in an authorized biography of the billionaire published this month. At one point, according to the book, Musk suggested the design could incorporate a shard of glass emerging from a lake.

The Journal spoke with an array of people about Tesla and the government investigations for this article.

Among the questions prosecutors are examining is whether Tesla properly disclosed perks Musk might have received. Internal or external lawyers typically handle such disclosures. At Tesla, Musk has at times personally guided what information to disclose to shareholders. It couldn’t be learned whether that was the case with any perks that prosecutors are scrutinizing. Tesla has said it generally doesn’t provide perks or other personal benefits to its top executives.

The Manhattan-based federal prosecutors also have sought information about a separate issue, the driving range of Tesla’s electric vehicles, the Journal reported in its article last month.

The Journal reported last October that the SEC and federal prosecutors in Washington and San Francisco were investigating whether Tesla misled consumers and investors about the performance of its advanced driver-assistance system known as Autopilot. The agencies haven’t announced any enforcement action against Tesla in connection with those investigations. Tesla has disclosed in securities filings that it received Justice Department inquiries about Autopilot.

Within Tesla, Project 42 and its purpose were closely guarded secrets.

Tesla lawyers and board members scrutinized the project after employees became concerned about how millions of dollars of large-format glass panels the company had ordered would be used.

Zach Kirkhorn, who was Tesla’s chief financial officer before stepping down last month, was among those who raised concerns internally about the project.

Some employees were told a limited liability company called Peninsula LLC would reimburse Tesla for certain costs. An LLC by that name, formed in April 2022, is managed by Musk adviser Jared Birchall, Texas records show.

Whether Tesla was reimbursed and whether the glass was ever delivered to the company couldn’t be learned.

Tesla is one of several companies that has received questions about executive perks recently from the Justice Department or the SEC.

Corporate policies on what constitutes personal or professional spending by C-suite executives vary, and there can be broad leeway, corporate governance experts say.

SEC regulations require public companies to disclose perks and other personal benefits provided to top executives if the total value of those benefits is $10,000 or more. Personal benefits can include reimbursement for private security, housing allowances or airplane use.

Stephen L. Cohen, a lawyer at Sidley Austin who leads its regulatory and enforcement group, said for the past few years the SEC’s Enforcement Division has been aggressive around its interpretation of legal standards involving disclosure and looking for anomalies.

“Companies have been paying attention to the SEC’s enforcement efforts and tightening their controls in this area, which is likely resulting in changes to perks or increased disclosures,” he said. “But I believe there is also a view at the SEC that the public cares about executive perks.”

The regulations also require companies to disclose transactions above $120,000 in which an executive officer or other related party has a material interest.

Musk runs several companies in addition to Tesla—including rocket company SpaceX and the social-media platform X.

Last October, around the time Musk was acquiring the company then-known as Twitter, he borrowed $1 billion from SpaceX. He paid the loan back with interest the next month.

Around the time the $44 billion deal closed, Musk called in Tesla engineers to review Twitter’s engineering talent.

Musk testified in a Delaware trial last year related to his compensation that Tesla employees were doing so on “a voluntary basis after-hours.”

Tesla said in an April proxy filing that Twitter had incurred roughly $1.4 million in expenses through February under agreements with the electric-vehicle maker. It also said it had agreements with SpaceX.

Musk has become the world’s wealthiest person thanks in large part to the soaring value of his stake in Tesla, where he is compensated in stock options. Tesla’s recent proxy statement showed that Musk didn’t receive any new compensation from the carmaker in 2020, 2021 or 2022.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2023 12:13 pm

I just want to punch him in the head. I wouldn’t though. I’d just love to publicly berate the c-bomb.

Of course his commentary is for MSM consuming sheep.

Tom Hanks Says Mask Up

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2023 12:15 pm

One grandson (yr6) is reading at yr9 level. Problem is finding appropriate “advanced” books without grubby young adult content. He needs advanced language without the soft sexualised angst.

Give him some university level STEM texts.

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 12:18 pm

Thanks for the extras guys. My little bookworm buddy will love those too.

I had a glance at some of the offerings in the teen/young adult genre (modern) and the Woke is strong, among other unsavoury features. I want my boy to have a childhood…they already know far too much that they shouldn’t.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 12:22 pm

calli,

3 live in Grandsons – 11 year old currently reading Charlie Thorne Series and Harry Potter etc, whilst 9 year old likes Captain Underpants, 6 Year Old gets checked on reading every night by Nonna

All other 6 Grandkids inverterate readers

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 12:27 pm

All talk and no action’: Dutton says Australians are ‘angry’ with Albanese

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton has slammed Prime Minister Anthony Albanese for putting the country in a “precarious position” both economically and due to the way he’s dividing the country.

“Australians are angry with the Prime Minister at the moment,” Mr Dutton said during a media conference on Wednesday.

Mr Dutton said they’re being asked to vote on something which won’t be designed until after the Voice referendum takes place.

“What sort of prime minister says to the Australian public, ‘I’ll explain to you what it is you’re voting for after you vote?’

“I think a lot of Australians are starting to understand this prime minister is either all talk and no action or when he does act, he acts to divide the country and to drive up power prices and drive up inflation.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 12:38 pm

Despite sanctions and export controls, Russia has significantly expanded weapons production, outpacing the US and Europe, the Western mainstream press has admitted.

Military experts have explained to Sputnik how the conflict has boosted Russia’s defense industry.

Russia is manufacturing over two million shells and 200 tanks a year, tearing apart Western intelligence prognoses, the US mainstream press reports.
At the beginning of the conflict, Washington was betting on ramping up military supplies to Kiev and hoped to curb Russia’s industrial capacity through a heap of sanctions. However, it turns out that Russia’s production of weapons has not been hindered. Quite the contrary, it has doubled and continues to grow, the newspaper complains.

As a result, Russia’s current ammunition production is seven times greater than that of the West, per European defense officials. That spells trouble for Ukraine in the coming months, the media outlet says.

As Russia is celebrating Gunsmith’s Day on September 19 – a professional holiday for all employees of enterprises of the country’s military-industrial complex – Sputnik has decided to take a look at what is behind the industrial boost.

Meanwhile

Lobaev Arms, a Russian producer of long-range high-precision rifles, has started to test a “hypersonic bullet” capable of piercing a target instantly and effectively.

“We can produce it in a nearly hypersonic version or actually go hypersonic. We will make this decision based on the test results, when the mass of the serial product is determined. Hyper sound starts at a speed of over 1,500 m/s (above 5 Mach), while a high-speed sniper bullet is a bullet flying at a speed of 900 m/s,” the Russian gunsmith explained.

Lobaev first made headlines in September 2018, when he set a goal of developing small arms ammunition with a velocity of 2,000 m/s.

He explained at the time that such rounds are needed for high-precision sniper weapons, which provide a higher range “grazing fire.”

Grazing fire is a term used in military science that means “fire approximately parallel to the ground.” Lobaev noted that new ammo would no longer be filled with gunpowder, but with detonating chemicals of a special composition.

Why would a sniper need high-speed or hypersonic rounds? The crux of the matter is that snipers need to take into account a heap of external ballistics factors, such as range to the target, wind direction, wind velocity, altitude and elevation, and even air density and temperature to maximize accuracy. However, a high-speed or hypersonic bullet minimizes the impact of external factors and gives the target less time to evade destruction.

However, today the work on hypersonic munitions has resumed, as the Ukrainian military has begun to use new 10×100 mm caliber munitions on the battlefield.
“The enemy uses this caliber at ranges outside the range of the Cheytac caliber rifles [10.3×77 mm – Sputnik], that is, at a distance of 2.4-2.6 kilometers. These rounds are dangerous since they could penetrate any personal armor protection at a range of 1.7-1.8 kilometers without using an armor-piercing bullet,” Lobaev said.

This challenge gave Lobaev Arms an opportunity to develop its bold hypersonic ammo project. Once achieving the speed of 1,500-2,000 m/s, Lobaev’s rounds will be unmatched among modern small firearms ammunition.

Apart from developing innovative munitions, Lobaev Arms creates a wide range of large-caliber, high-precision, and long-range weapons.

Previously, the company had never supplied its rifles to the Russian Army, working instead for export and the civilian market.

Russia’s special military operation has changed that: today the Russian military and the nation’s other security forces have become the company’s main customers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 12:38 pm

From the Hun. Words fail me, they honestly do.

Thirteen-year-old boy ‘too young’ to be found guilty of Declan Cutler’s murder

A 13-year-old boy who took part in the savage killing of Reservoir teen Declan Cutler has been found not guilty of murder because he was too young to know his actions were “seriously wrong”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2023 12:39 pm

It’s too late for us now to be talking about assimilation. We’re not gonna turn into whitefellas tomorrow,” Mr Pearson said.

Yes, look at those Jewish people all speaking Yiddish only in Australia…
Why the ones who speak english have completely lost their distinctive culture haven’t they?

One of the cruelest things you can do to a genuinely clever kid is to neglect their education.
I had a few ex Aboriginal customers like that, really really clever people but limited by their miseducations.

The next Einstein could be a remote community kid, but we will never know, as they will likely seek to numb their brain with drugs rather than endure the tedium of the constrained life of a tribal.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
September 20, 2023 12:41 pm

Albo’s gone full woe-is-me mode in some pathetic interview with Jessica Roweboat.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 12:41 pm

One grandson (yr6) is reading at yr9 level. Problem is finding appropriate “advanced” books without grubby young adult content. He needs advanced language without the soft sexualised angst.

Get him to read the Australian Constitution and then to explain it to Tennis Elbow as a School Project on Democracy in Action by the People.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 20, 2023 12:43 pm

thefrollickingmole
Sep 20, 2023 12:39 PM
It’s too late for us now to be talking about assimilation. We’re not gonna turn into whitefellas tomorrow,” Mr Pearson said.

Yes, look at those Jewish people all speaking Yiddish only in Australia…
Why the ones who speak english have completely lost their distinctive culture haven’t they?

One of the cruelest things you can do to a genuinely clever kid is to neglect their education.
I had a few ex Aboriginal customers like that, really really clever people but limited by their miseducations.

The next Einstein could be a remote community kid, but we will never know, as they will likely seek to numb their brain with drugs rather than endure the tedium of the constrained life of a tribal.

Yes, I like that you point to a very old culture that is kept alive and thriving for thousands of years. And doing so in their own time.

You can say the same for most Australian born Chinese – the children go the Chinese School on Saturdays to learn their language and culture.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2023 12:44 pm

The mink just falls asleep in his lap. He’s got the training of these critters pegged. He’s also a JET with dogs.

—-

Joseph Carter:

Why I Use Mink For Ratting

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 20, 2023 12:47 pm

For younger readers with an interest in magic and mystery (with strong morals and ethical framework) The Wizard of Earthsea is excellent.

I don’t know why it has fallen from favour?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wizard_of_Earthsea

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 20, 2023 12:47 pm

On smart kids… wife’s rellies kid is about 18 months old and counts to 20 and knows his ABCs, can’t talk clearly yet but you can make out he’s constructing whole sentences already.

Going to be a massive brainbox if he keeps up that pace

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 20, 2023 12:56 pm

What would Winston say?

Anthony Albanese reveals why he cries ‘all the time’ in lengthy podcast interview

Anthony Albanese has revealed what makes him “cry all the time” and what leaves him feeling “completely exhausted” as prime minister.

Anthony Albanese isn’t afraid to say he’s in touch with his emotions, revealing he cries “all the time” and how it feels to be attacked for doing his job.

The Prime Minister opened up on his emotional state during a wide-ranging appearance on Jess Rowe’s Big Talk Show on Wednesday morning.

“Oh, um, I cry all the time. I’m a very emotional person,” Mr Albanese told the podcast host.

“I grew up … just me and mum. My mum was a very emotional person as well, she had a much tougher life than I’ve had.

“And so, I do get emotional about things, I care about issues, I think what we do is important.”

Mr Albanese referenced the upcoming Voice referendum on October 14 and the opportunity to “make a difference” as having a major impact on his life.

Mr Albanese said that overall he was a pretty happy person but found the attacks he received from time to time to be “difficult”.

“Some of the personal attacks that come on, it’s like, ‘Oh, c’mon, really?’” he said.

“We were talking … about my itinerary in the last week, which consisted of, you know, from Canberra to Jakarta, to Manila to Delhi, back to Canberra to question time.

“And then you will then have people go, ‘Ah flying around, the luxury’, and it’s like, ‘Ahh really?’

“It’s exhausting. It’s completely exhausting.”

Daily Tele

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 1:01 pm

Mr Albanese said that overall he was a pretty happy person but found the attacks he received from time to time to be “difficult”.

What? Like “smash her!”? Those types of attacks?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2023 1:02 pm

Calli, I see Magda of the endless buffet reads the Cat.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2023 1:04 pm

Why do you cry Luigi? Its the Hawkey in me, all us great leaders cry.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2023 1:08 pm

ZK2A, Declan Cutler’s rellies will sort it out. I know I would.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 1:09 pm

Its the Hawkey in me, all us great leaders cry.

The Right Honorable “Blubbering Bob” Hawke?

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 20, 2023 1:10 pm

This challenge gave Lobaev Arms an opportunity to develop its bold hypersonic ammo project. Once achieving the speed of 1,500-2,000 m/s, Lobaev’s rounds will be unmatched among modern small firearms ammunition

Recoil and barrel life are going to be a bitch…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2023 1:13 pm

It’s too late for us now to be talking about assimilation. We’re not gonna turn into whitefellas tomorrow,” Mr Pearson said.

Interesting observation from a bloke who, in the next breath, will be extolling the virtues of multi-culturalism.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 1:17 pm

What would Winston say?

Winston did admit that he “tended to blub very easily.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 1:19 pm

For younger readers with an interest in magic and mystery (with strong morals and ethical framework) The Wizard of Earthsea is excellent.

Likewise W.E. Johns, J.E. MacDonnell and Tamora Pierce. Lots and lots of very readable novels between the three of them.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 1:21 pm

Dunny Brush
Sep 20, 2023 12:41 PM
Albo’s gone full woe-is-me mode in some pathetic interview with Jessica Roweboat.

How will he go then when the Yes row boat comes in as a Big No?

Cry me a River maybe.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 1:25 pm

Likewise W.E. Johns, J.E. MacDonnell and Tamora Pierce. Lots and lots of very readable novels between the three of them.

J.E. MacDonnell paperbacks were standard furniture in every shearers quarters in Australia.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 1:26 pm

Albo’s gone full woe-is-me mode in some pathetic interview with Jessica Roweboat.

Just Albo and his mum….

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2023 1:26 pm

Duk, I think not many snipers wear out a barrel.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 1:42 pm

By paul garvey
Senior Reporter
@PDGarvey
1:22PM September 20, 2023

The group behind a controversial recent protest outside the family home of Woodside Energy chief executive Meg O’Neill have now targeted the home of Woodside and Rio Tinto director Ben Wyatt.

Disrupt Burrup Hub, who are opposed to Woodside’s plans to expand and extend its liquefied natural gas projects on WA’s Burrup Peninsula, on Wednesday morning said Indigenous community leader Desmond Blurton had staged a cultural protest outside Mr Wyatt’s home in the wealthy western suburb of Nedlands.

Mr Wyatt, who is also Indigenous, was the treasurer of WA until 2021. He has since joined the boards of Woodside and Rio Tinto as well as the West Coast Eagles AFL club.

In a statement, Disrupt Burrup Hub said Mr Blurton planted an Aboriginal flag on grass outside Mr Wyatt’s house and lit eucalyptus leaves as part of a smoking ceremony.

The protest, they said, was staged during school hours so Mr Wyatt’s children were not present.

“As WA Treasurer and Aboriginal Affairs Minister, Mr Wyatt was responsible for the aborted Aboriginal Heritage Act that was repealed by the WA Labor Government last month and oversaw the Section 18 approval process that enabled Juukan Gorge and the removal of sacred Murujuga rock art to construct the Perdaman fertiliser plant at Woodside’s Burrup Hub,” the group said.

“After leaving WA politics in 2021, Mr Wyatt swiftly joined the boards of Rio Tinto, responsible for the destruction of the Juukan Gorge caves, and Woodside, whose Burrup Hub threatens UNESCO-nominated Murujuga rock art with toxic emissions and has already destroyed thousands of sacred sites.”

Mr Wyatt is actively campaigning in favour of the Indigenous Voice to Parliament, and is scheduled to appear at a business lunch on the topic on Wednesday.

The protest echoes a similar event in early August, in which 19-year-old Disrupt Burrup Hub protester Matilda Lane-Rose was arrested outside Ms O’Neill’s City Beach mansion.

The targeting of Ms O’Neill’s home was roundly criticised, as was the decision by the ABC to send a Four Corners crew to the protest.

Disrupt Burrup Hub have been responsible for a series of contentious protest actions. Earlier this year, Mr Blurton was part of a protest in which activists spray-painted the Woodside logo on to the classic Colonial-era artwork Down on His Luck. He was arrested but released without charge.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 20, 2023 1:53 pm

J.E. MacDonnell paperbacks were standard furniture in every shearers quarters in Australia.

If that’s the JE MacDonnell who wrote about Big Bill the Bastard and Dutchy Holland, a staple of every single second hand bookshop as well.

They were just long enough for the return train trip Linden to the city. I had a full set was forced to get rid of them ????. Can’t find them anywhere now.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 1:57 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 20, 2023 1:42 PM
By paul garvey
Senior Reporter
@PDGarvey
1:22PM September 20, 2023

The group behind a controversial recent protest outside the family home of Woodside Energy chief executive Meg O’Neill have now targeted the home of Woodside and Rio Tinto director Ben Wyatt.

And what would ‘Albo Too Very Sleasy’ do if a similar protest was conducted outside of his home or any of the other properties owned by him by the NO campaign?

“Cry me a River” and call the AFP that’s what. FFS.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 2:09 pm

Indigenous community leader Desmond Blurton had staged a cultural protest outside Mr Wyatt’s home in the wealthy western suburb of Nedlands.

This character Blurton has form, demanding that homeless Noongars should have “culturally appropriate” housing.

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 2:13 pm

“culturally appropriate” housing.

Bark lean-to’s?

No. I didn’t think so either.

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2023 2:15 pm

H B Bear
Sep 20, 2023 10:37 AM
If indigenous kids never learn English the same will apply here, not necessarily islam but a population cut off from teh world and ready to be exploited.

Often what happened to female post War migrants. The husband picked up English at work. The children at school. Mum was left at home or the visits to the migrant club.

Bear, I grew up like that. When my parents migrated here, Dad said to Mum, you don’t need to learn English, you’ll be at home with the kids. By the time Mum had the opportunity to learn English, her hearing had gone. There were thousands of kids like my sisters and I across Oz who traipsed around with their Mums asking questions and directions. The one thing every migrant could do though, no matter how little or no English they had, and that was make change. You didn’t need to know the language to know what something cost and how much change was due back. 😀

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2023 2:15 pm

If I spray paint Desmond Blurton with “get a job”, will I be released without charge? Nobody need answer, we already know.

chrisl
chrisl
September 20, 2023 2:16 pm

Renters are in for a world of pain.
There was a headline recently about home buyers being sick of looking at ex rentals
An $800,000 house would give a rental return of around 3% ( gross)
Less commission , rates, insurance and maintenance
So closer to 2%
That same $800,000 would give an interest rate return of 5% at a bank
With no hassles or bills to pay

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 2:19 pm

They hate us but they love our stuff.

I sincerely want to like them provided they stop whining, become diligent and productive and keep their beady, covetous eyes off property belonging to individuals or the community.

And that goes for other able bodied mendicants also.

Not being God, I don’t do unconditional love. But I can do conditional admiration. Earn it, just like you expect me to do also.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 20, 2023 2:23 pm

“The Right Honorable “Blubbering Bob” Hawke?”

I remember he cried when the Canberra pack awarded him Father of the Year. So he should have cried, years later, after his protection racket diminished, we found out what a cad and bounder he was. Looking at you ABCs Barry Cassidy and co.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 20, 2023 2:27 pm

Diogenes Sep 20, 2023 1:53 PM

J.E. MacDonnell paperbacks were standard furniture in every shearers quarters in Australia.

If that’s the JE MacDonnell who wrote about Big Bill the Bastard and Dutchy Holland, a staple of every single second hand bookshop as well.

They were just long enough for the return train trip Linden to the city. I had a full set was forced to get rid of them ????. Can’t find them anywhere now.

That would be he.
(same for cane cutters quarters, boundary rider huts, etc)

Online is where to find his books.

JE MacDonnell was for the more literate reader. IIRC he wrote hundreds upon hundreds of books, not all under the same name, & there’s no definitive bibliography or any real idea of how many books he actually wrote.

Zatara
Zatara
September 20, 2023 2:30 pm

Some recommended ‘classic’ books/authors for kids/teens.

C. S. Forester – Hornblower series, The African Queen, The Good Shepard
Patrick O’Brian – Jack Aubrey series (Master and Commander)
Neville Shute
Mark Twain
H.G. Wells
Robert Louis Stevenson
Charles Dickinson

Lord of the Flies, Chronicles of Narnia, The Sword in the Stone, The Three Musketeers, The Swiss Family Robinson, Animal Farm, A Separate Peace, To Kill A Mockingbird. 1984…

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 20, 2023 2:33 pm

Desmond Bagely was another mens quarters staple, Hammond Innes, Alistair MacLean, Ngaio Marsh, Carter Brown, even a bit of Georgette Heyer or Pearl S Buck could be found.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2023 2:33 pm

Sitting in a hotel in Singapore’s Chinatown, looking out over the road at another building like this one, white wooden shutters, old primly painted brickwork, ground plus two floors, plus a rooftop dormer floor, further along I see some small balconies on the 2nd level with Chinese good luck inserts. Circa 1929, canopied shops and eateries at ground level. All of it beautifully tarted up. Redolent of some of the scenery used in the ABC’s semi-ok tele series ‘The Singapore Grip’.

Ours has been restored and turned into a hotel with Sino-Scandinavian interiors, but the old warehouse and office feel is there in the floors, which wave up and down as the levels of the antique interiors leave their footprint, undulating against yours in the hallway to your room. The unusual navigation doesn’t end there. There is also quite a large step up into the ensuite bathroom which requires care after midnite, and holding on coming down. So, in other ways does the bed entail caution at all times, for it is comfortable but so high it requires a deep breaths and a determined effort to tackle the climb back into it.

We are off to explore more of Chinatown soon, and off the Milan tomorrow.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 2:34 pm

Southerly on the Way

http://www.bom.gov.au/nsw/observations/nswall.shtml?ref=hdr

Merimbula 17.7C at 2.20 pm – 31.3 at 1100

Narooma 20.8C at 2.20pm no 1100 reading

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 20, 2023 2:36 pm

Remember cats we flagged how this referendum will work.
So far we have had…
• no detail, its about the vibe, trust us
• a call to a higher self,
• the other countries are watching,
• sportpeople (not just our own how about kicking off with the Shaque) and elites showing support,
• think of the children route (St Greta anyone) on the ads,
• Youse are all racists and stupid to vote No
• who can cry the most and for longest,
• we need to appease the dead,
• activist violence (pass the road glue next?).
• Next will be a horrific crime or children in custody …would not have happened if da Voice, ‘We stand with…XXX’,
• I’m waiting for the Iranian approach…hostages traded for a Yes vote. or one false move and we nuke NZ
After 40,000 years of a perfect indigi system you know it makes sense to go back and give it another try.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 20, 2023 2:39 pm

Indigenous community leader Desmond Blurton

Desmond Blurton. Why does his name make me snigger? It sounds like a name from a Benny Hill sketch.

johanna
johanna
September 20, 2023 2:43 pm

IIRC from a previous discussion here, the great Robert G Barrett is another favourite of men’s quarters. He has a lot of female fans too, including me.

Not really suitable for children, though.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 2:45 pm

King Solomon’s Mines

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 2:45 pm

C. S. Forester – Hornblower series
Patrick O’Brian – Jack Aubrey series

C S Forester – The Gun. Awesome.
Alexander Kent – Bolitho series.
And of course David Weber – Honor Harrington series.
Which is Aubrey and Bolitho in space!

I read Azimov in year 7, not because anyone told me anything, just because the cover looked interesting. Both Azimov plus Heinlein’s young adults series would be pretty good too.

Still reading SF, currently a dead tree space opera in between Cat refreshes.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 2:47 pm

After 40,000 years of a perfect indigi system you know it makes sense to go back and give it another try.

According to some person on the MSM/ABC it is 60,000 Millenium.

Which is 60,000 one thousand years (60 million years). Isn’t that close to when the Dinosaurs disappeared?

I will need to consult the Bible (The Oracle). LOL

Robert Sewell
September 20, 2023 2:48 pm

Peter Greagg:
At the end is a question for the mathematically illiterate.
Let me put it in different terms:
“This year a teacher spent $383.30 on stationery. Last year the teacher spent $257.85 on stationery. How much more did the teacher spend this year than last year?’’
Give the answer in Base 8, and Base 13.
Show your working.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Robert Sewell
Sep 20, 2023 2:48 PM
Peter Greagg:
At the end is a question for the mathematically illiterate.
Let me put it in different terms:
“This year a teacher spent $383.30 on stationery. Last year the teacher spent $257.85 on stationery. How much more did the teacher spend this year than last year?’’
Give the answer in Base 8, and Base 13.
Show your working.

I would like the answer in Hexadecimal please.

And on your note paper with all of the workings.

Otherwise, you will be thrashed……………Got that?

The Master !!!!!!!!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2023 2:56 pm

Former Labor senator Stephen Conroy says the day after the referendum day place will be “sombre”. Mr Conroy said if the polls are accurate then the ‘Yes’ case will lose and potentially quite heavily.

“If it’s the ‘Yes’ case then they’re going to have to reflect on what went wrong, why they weren’t able to convince the majority of Australians in majority of the states. “That this was an important step down the path of reconciliation and recognition. “There’s a lot of people who’ve engaged in rhetoric and language.”

Small pointer for the Underpants Gnome on who has been engaged in rhetoric and language:

Albanese: August 2021

If we want to understand the challenges of the present, we must understand their roots in past trauma. There can be no real progress on Closing the Gap and there can be no Reconciliation without Treaty and Truth-Telling.

The Uluru Statement called for a national process of Treaty and Truth-Telling overseen by a Makarrata Commission, along with a constitutionally enshrined voice to the parliament.

Labor is committed to the Uluru Statement in full. And today, Labor is committing to establish a Makarrata Commission as a matter of priority.

Albanese: August 2023

Meanwhile Albanese was all over the place when quizzed on treaty during an ABC interview on Wednesday. After he pointed out there was treaty-making under way at state level, he was pressed on whether he was still committed to the Commonwealth negotiating treaties.

“It doesn’t even say that in the Uluru Statement from the Heart. … It doesn’t speak about the Commonwealth negotiating treaties,” he told Patricia Karvelas.

She pushed for clarity, asking, “You don’t think the Commonwealth has a role to negotiate treaties?” “No, I didn’t say that,” the PM replied. “I said, that’s not in the Uluru Statement from the Heart.”

The hideous little bastard jumped aboard the Uluru Statement – the fallout from Turnbull’s failed 2017 Yulara convention on recognition – as an excellent weapon to fight torries in Canbra.

Sadly, the net result after October 14 will be bitter disappointment for one or the other side of a strongly divided argument. Having made no real effort to sell the concept by way of intelligent persuasion, far less explain what it means – and having convincingly outed himself as Whywouldi, Dissembler in Chief – Albanese, personally, enabled the division and owns the ‘what went wrong’.

Appalling leadership, the worst.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 20, 2023 2:57 pm

Could buy good quality secondhand copies of Heinlein’s Starship Troopers and donate them to secondary school libraries.

Might stir up a few teenagers – what, a society where you don’t automatically get to vote, and where you’re held accountable for crimes?

As a novel it’s not been made old by the passing of time either. The tech in it stands up well to today’s societies albeit there is no constant use of mobile phones.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2023 3:03 pm

It’s to Milan, not the. A sad tale follows, so scroll now, busy people.

Such unusual inattention to my typing, lol, I must still be suffering from last night’s dramas, for entry into Singapore was fraught. Sydney Airport, to give them credit due, quickly ironed out the problems they had with the passport facial recognition system. Not so Singapore. It was bad last time in January this year and it was bad last night too. One in ten were lucky to get through without a glitch of some sort.

So Hairy went through, I thought, as his started ok, but mine immediately said see ground staff and someone pointed me to a woman in a separate roped passageway, who took one look at my perfectly good passport and ordered me back around a corner to another line and out of sight of Hairy. I only had time in the large mellee of people getting upset to call out wait for me there and point to the spot just beyond the machines. The Chinese man in front of me in this new line then proceeded to take fifteen minutes over his wad of papers and passport, but mine was quickly waved through and I had to enter the airport in another place. I raced back up to where I’d said to meet Hairy, but no Hairy, so I crossly started off down a walkway only to meet a confusion of duty free shops and signage, and I got even crosser, because without him I would have to move from followership to competent mode, which I mostly resist. As I’m ambling around peering hopefully at signage for baggage I spot him and wave frantically, and he comes up to me and says where were you, and I say where were you, and he says I was redirected to yet another line, and I say why not wait where we agreed, and he says you only had one man before you so you should have waited and so I went down to find you, and I said I had to wait ages for that man, and why change arrangements made in a panic, and it was on. A huge barney between us, which was both public and long lasting, until we finally reached a taxi and made up in the back seat.

We arrive outside the hotel and the cab stops and the reason is that cars on both sides of a narrow street seem to be blocking further progress. I want to get out as we are outside the hotel, but the driver says no, it’s too dangerous on this road, but he refuses to move further on. People are beginning to come out to see what is the matter, drivers of the other cars blocking the road come out, and still our man refuses to move. A Mexican stand off, sighs Hairy, which is finally solved by one man at the front winning, jumping up and down and gesticulating he’s guiding, so the cab inches slowly through the narrow gap and I am afeared that he will scrape his cab, and that I won’t be able to get out at all because it will be stuck, and if it’s an electric cab it will catch fire and we will be trapped. He then drives us up a side street and we are left to haul our luggage back to the hotel. Worst driver in the world, says Hairy.

When we reach our room I find my nail scissors and open the ‘unopenable’ (he says after trying) lead top over the cap of the duty free bottle of whiskey and we both have a double shot there and then.

The perils of travel.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2023 3:03 pm

Desmond Bagely was another mens quarters staple

From the same general mould as Alistair MacLean. I have often (well, once or twice) wondered why more of his novels didn’t appear as filums.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 3:04 pm

The Voice focus groups aren’t being very helpful. Burney is worse than useless (although she doesn’t have much to work with).. Bit over 3 weeks before normal service resumes.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 20, 2023 3:05 pm

“It’s exhausting. It’s completely exhausting

Cry me a river you spittering Trot. How pathetic.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 3:06 pm

Could buy good quality secondhand copies of Heinlein’s Starship Troopers and donate them to secondary school libraries.

The entire edumacation union would go out on strike…

Superb novel. The History and Moral Philosophy course stuff alone would explode the heads of every prog lefty who read those bits.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 3:09 pm

You suspect Albo won’t have a lot of time for fighting Tories for a while.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2023 3:15 pm

The extinction event that wiped out the dinosaurs (Cretaceous–Paleogene (K-Pg) extinction event) was about 65 million years ago.

It means that Aborigines not only likely taught Homo Erectus how to bang rocks together, but may have taught the early arboreal primates how to grip branches – before which time those bloody opposable thumbs will have been always getting in they way.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 3:16 pm

Here? – https://www.manlypavilion.com.au/menus
My Wife likes – https://www.limani.com.au/wp-content/uploads/menu_special923.pdf

No, at a Greek restaurant, Kazzis, opposite the beach. The owner also has Kazzis at Balmoral Beach, and is a personal friend. Just wish he would change the chairs – but they are in the Greek tradition, and he is VERY Greek. Won’t hear of a change.

Great lunch, my favourite, Octopus & King Prawns on the spit. Sadly, they hadn’t prepared Watermelon salad today, & had Greek mezzo salad instead. Then Baklava & Baklava ice cream. Wicked. Granddaughter was more interested in owner’s young handsome son, who is managing the restaurant, than the food!

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 3:17 pm

Former Labor senator Stephen Conroy says the day after the referendum day place will be “sombre”. Mr Conroy said if the polls are accurate then the ‘Yes’ case will lose and potentially quite heavily.

And the day after that, ‘Conrod’ and the ‘KRudd’ designed the NBN on the back of something or other, when it all went badly wrong. And then it went even wronger when TurnBullShit took it over.

A now $50 Billion Lemon (and maybe much much more) that is slower than anything else on the free market and that no one else wants to buy.

The ‘Cleva Country’ in action with your hard earned tax dollars at work once again.

Value today – $ Nill. And that’s at the high end of the Market. FFS.

Crossie
Crossie
September 20, 2023 3:17 pm

Mr Dutton said they’re being asked to vote on something which won’t be designed until after the Voice referendum takes place.

“What sort of prime minister says to the Australian public, ‘I’ll explain to you what it is you’re voting for after you vote?’

He learned it from Americans, Nancy Pelosi told her voters that congress has to pass a law before they can find out what’s in it.

Makka
Makka
September 20, 2023 3:21 pm

authors like Rider Haggard, Robert Louis Stevenson, Jack London, Wilkie Collins and the like.

Reach for the Sky and James Herriot books might be a fit in there too calli?

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 3:24 pm

When we reach our room I find my nail scissors and open the ‘unopenable’ (he says after trying) lead top over the cap of the duty free bottle of whiskey and we both have a double shot there and then.

The perils of travel.

Hope it is all worth it, Lizzie. Like you, we have travelled all over the world throughout our life together. But unlike you and Hairy, we don’t really want to see anything now that warrants the nightmares that our friends are encountering. We have wonderful friends who have owned a farm and are keen to look after ours when we are absent, but we cant be tempted.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 3:25 pm

Vicki
Sep 20, 2023 3:16 PM

Here? – https://www.manlypavilion.com.au/menus
My Wife likes – https://www.limani.com.au/wp-content/uploads/menu_special923.pdf

No, at a Greek restaurant, Kazzis, opposite the beach. The owner also has Kazzis at Balmoral Beach, and is a personal friend. Just wish he would change the chairs – but they are in the Greek tradition, and he is VERY Greek. Won’t hear of a change.

Great lunch, my favourite, Octopus & King Prawns on the spit. Sadly, they hadn’t prepared Watermelon salad today, & had Greek mezzo salad instead. Then Baklava & Baklava ice cream. Wicked. Granddaughter was more interested in owner’s young handsome son, who is managing the restaurant, than the food!

Vicki,

North Steyne just down from my Son & Daughter-in-law’s place – have eaten there a couple of times and like their Greek Food – sorry 18 Year Old Grandson out from Europe for 3 weeks misses out on seeing your Granddaughter

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 3:27 pm

Meanwhile Albanese was all over the place when quizzed on treaty during an ABC interview on Wednesday. After he pointed out there was treaty-making under way at state level,

Hey, Tennis Elbow, don’t you know the Australian Constitution? The Australian States can’t make treaties. Only the Australian Feral Guv’ment can. Go and read Section 61 of the Australian Constitution.

As I stated earlier in a previous post, the Australian States are only making “Claytons treaties” (Agreements). And good luck with that with those State taxpayers when they find out how much that it costs.

Frank
Frank
September 20, 2023 3:29 pm

For the young reader, something like J.G. Ballard might be good. It is never to early to instil a sense of distrust for the consensus. Solzhenitsyn might be a bit heavy for now.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2023 3:30 pm

Former Labor senator Stephen Conroy says the day after the referendum day place will be “sombre”.

All burghers of good conscience should arise early, put their red underpants of mourning upon their heads, drink a glass of irradiated milk, then get on the internet and disgorge their distended bladders of guilt (much as children at the community swimming pool do their literal bladders rather than walking to the toilet block) in the form of tweets apologising to history and black people for the cruelty and racism of their fellow Australians.

The colours of the Aboriginal flag will gain new significance – the black band of shamefulness topped by the red of underpants, with the yellow circle symbolising swimming pools.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 3:30 pm

Jack London … Reach for the Sky and James Herriot books might be a fit in there too

Jack London was awesome. Alaska! I read all the James Herriot books too.

The Gerald Durrell books are another fine series.

I live in them, at the Cafe. My oldest kooka turned up this morning and sat on my hand. She’s about 15. And the three most recent noisy chicks have discovered that they can get food from me. They go cheep, cheep around my toes, and get fed bread and bits of mince.

Crossie
Crossie
September 20, 2023 3:30 pm

Often what happened to female post War migrants. The husband picked up English at work. The children at school. Mum was left at home or the visits to the migrant club.”

Bear, I grew up like that. When my parents migrated here, Dad said to Mum, you don’t need to learn English, you’ll be at home with the kids. By the time Mum had the opportunity to learn English, her hearing had gone.

My mother in law who also never worked outside of home learned English by watching Days Of Our Lives. I was amazed when she used to fill me in on the happenings on the show.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 3:32 pm

An $800,000 house would give a rental return of around 3% ( gross)
Less commission , rates, insurance and maintenance
So closer to 2%
That same $800,000 would give an interest rate return of 5% at a bank
With no hassles or bills to pay

That is all at current sale prices and rents. Our rentals which we purchased many years ago are now returning more than the best bank returns and have escalated enormously in value over the years. It is always a question of timing. And they are not mortgaged.

Makka
Makka
September 20, 2023 3:32 pm

Interior Minister Nancy Faeser, of the Social Democratic Party (SPD), which forms part of the coalition government in Germany, has stated her party’s intention to massively expand voting rights for foreigners. This includes a plan for refugees who have lived in Germany for more than six months to be allowed to vote, according to the German daily BILD.

Great idea!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 3:33 pm

The Australian States can’t make treaties. Only the Australian Feral Guv’ment can. Go and read Section 61 of the Australian Constitution.

I’m just seeing any formal State “treaty” as sparking off a legal dogfight of monumental proportions – once you have defined who is eligible to receive “compensation” and “reparations” under any treaty…..

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 20, 2023 3:34 pm

I would agree with that. I would add that he was obsessed with the Pagan German/Viking Indo-European deities.

Hitler loathed Christianity.

Once he worked out that Jesus was a Jew, it was all over for Christianity as far as Adolph was concerned.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 20, 2023 3:35 pm

Robert G Barrett.

Mr Wobbly.

Hahaha.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2023 3:36 pm

Newscorp:

The three-day manhunt for armed fugitive Stanley Turvey has ended in a fatal police stand-off in Victoria’s north.

Turvey was shot during a confrontation with police at an address in Ardmona, in the Greater Shepparton area, on Wednesday morning.

Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

This is what happens when half your face is covered by a tattoo of a grenade.

Plonker.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2023 3:39 pm

Hey, Tennis Elbow, don’t you know the Australian Constitution? The Australian States can’t make treaties. Only the Australian Feral Guv’ment can. Go and read Section 61 of the Australian Constitution.

He is well familiar with the Australian Constitution. It is a one page document with some pictures (one of them has a kangaroo and an emu standing beside one of those things that football clubs have and surrounded by squiggly lines) that says:

AUSTRALIA’S CONSTITUTION
With Overview and Notes by the
Australian Government Solicitor

Produced by the Parliamentary Education Office and
Australian Government Solicitor, Canberra.

There might be some other pages, but why would he need to bother reading them?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 3:39 pm

Anthony Albanese reveals how family, faith, and a near-death accident have collectively driven his crusade for the Voice referendum

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has revealed he “cries all the time” as he got up close and personal in a lengthy podcast interview, sharing the parts of his upbringing that are the driving forces in his fierce advocacy for the Voice to Parliament.

From the Comments

– I reckon he should have stayed out of politics and joined the merchant navy, maybe a steward on a cruise ship would be a fun place.

– So Chicken Little the wolf has finally put his sheep’s clothing on. Sorry mate, you won’t pull the wool over our eyes. By the way, have your resignation ready for the 15th.

– We are crying now Albo.

– I’m.sure that brought tears to the eyes of his loyal socialist clones

They can all sit around the camp fire (because energy costs are so high), share stories about the time they almost got hurt (but didn’t actually get hurt), and have a long hard cry (and share it with journalists)

And meanwhile, we all live with his cost of living crisis

– You’re the voice, try and understand it Make a noise and make it clear, oh, woah We’re not gonna sit in silence We’re not gonna live with fear, oh, woah

– He’s already thrown the towel in.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 3:41 pm

From the Hun.

Killing contradiction: Animal Justice Party backs Indigenous duck hunting

The Animal Justice Party opposes the killing of animals, but has backed Victoria’s traditional owners shooting ducks.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 3:42 pm

North Steyne just down from my Son & Daughter-in-law’s place – have eaten there a couple of times and like their Greek Food – sorry 18 Year Old Grandson out from Europe for 3 weeks misses out on seeing your Granddaughter

Hey Ozzie! That would have been a hoot. She is smart and beautiful (says grandmother!) & is very sweet as well. Her family lives at North Curl Curl – so very close to your people.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 20, 2023 3:47 pm

Hmmm, may lay in some bubbles ready to toast Stephen Conroy, always good to have something to look forward to.

Makka
Makka
September 20, 2023 3:47 pm

Ukraine refused to accept a recent batch of 10 Leopard 1A5 tanks sent by Germany, saying they need repairs that the Ukrainian military is not able to carry out, the German news outlet Spiegel reported on Sept. 19.

According to the outlet, Kyiv recently notified Berlin that the recent batch of Leopards that had arrived in Poland required major repairs.

Western industrial might, backing Ukraine. Did they send back the 2 Leopards wrecked in battle back for repairs as well?

https://kyivindependent.com/media-ukraine-refused-10-leopard-1-tanks-from-germany-due-to-poor-condition/

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2023 3:47 pm

Killing contradiction: Animal Justice Party backs Indigenous duck hunting

Maybe they believe Indigenous people are classified under the Flora and Fauna Act, and don’t count them as people.

Should we take sides when a frog eats a fly?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 3:48 pm

DrB – the Left is totally screwy about anything Jewish. It’s a big tell.

Rep. Nadler Blasts Trump: Your Anti-Semitism is Loud and Clear (19 Sep)

This is a Dem who had been bang banging Fang Fang, a pretty young Chinese agent. Nadler could do Jabba the Hut impersonations, so Fang Fang earned whatever promotion she got. He is now calling Trump an antisemite despite the small fact that his family are Jewish and that he negotiated the Abraham Accords. I was amused. But Mr Nadler does rather deserve what the Nazis got. He’s a creep.

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2023 3:49 pm

Bruce of Newcastle mentioned Gerald Durrell books as good reads for youngsters. I most heartily concur. I avidly look forward to a flotilla of Bootle Bumtrinkets paddled in local creeks and sea pools by boys and girls with an excess of imagination.

Do you all remember that wonderful Mr Durrell was one of the first to be cancelled by the baying mob around twenty years ago? He had the temerity to disagree with Global Boiling.

Crossie
Crossie
September 20, 2023 3:49 pm

OldOzzie
Sep 20, 2023 3:39 PM
Anthony Albanese reveals how family, faith, and a near-death accident have collectively driven his crusade for the Voice referendum

Faith? When was the last time he attended Mass?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 3:52 pm

Oops, my mistake, it was Swalwell banging Fang Fang. Nadler is the fill my pants man.
Apologies to Mr Nadler. Depends are a useful precaution sir.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2023 3:53 pm

So, who is going to be taking over for Albo when he decides to spend more time with his family?

Plibbers has been touted often enough, but isn’t she mired in some muck these days? (Embattled is the word, I believe.) Or am I misremembering?

The Pieman trying to do a Lazarus like the Great Satan?

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 20, 2023 3:55 pm

Johnny Rotten
Sep 20, 2023 2:54 PM
Robert Sewell
Sep 20, 2023 2:48 PM
Peter Greagg:
At the end is a question for the mathematically illiterate.
Let me put it in different terms:
“This year a teacher spent $383.30 on stationery. Last year the teacher spent $257.85 on stationery. How much more did the teacher spend this year than last year?’’
Give the answer in Base 8, and Base 13.
Show your working.

I would like the answer in Hexadecimal please.

And on your note paper with all of the workings.

Otherwise, you will be thrashed……………Got that?

The Master !!!!!!!!

Okay we have 38330 cents (base 10) minus 25785 cents (base 10).
So I could subtract them in base 10, and then convert the answer into base 8, base 13, and base 16.

But I guess the hard markers here would say I cheated.
So lets convert 38330 into base 8. To do so, I need to divide 38330 continuously by 8 until the remainder is less than zero.

38330/8 = 4791.25 this tells us the right hand side digit is 0.25×8=2

next 4791/8=598.875 this tells us the second digit is 0.875×8=7

next 598/8=74.75 this tells us the third digit is 0.75×8=6

next 74/8=9.25 this tells us the fourth digit is 0.25×8=2

next 9/8=1.125 this tells us the fifth digit is 0.125×8=1

next 1/8=0.125 this tells us that the sixth (and last digit) is 0.125×8=1

So 38330 in base 10 is 112672 in base 8

Now 25785 in base 8 is calculated as follows

25785/8=3223.125 this tells us that the first digit in 0.125×8=1

next 3223/8=402.875 this tells us that the second digit is 0.875×8=7

next 402/8=50.25 this tells us that the third digit is 0.25×8=2

next 50/8=6.25 this tells us that the fourth digit is 0.25×8=2

next 6/8=0.75 this tells us that the fifth and last digit is 0.75×8=6

So 25785 in base 10 is 62271 in base 8.

So 38330 less 25785 (in base 10) is the same as 112672 less 62271 (in base 8)

112672
– 62271
=

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 3:56 pm

Vicki
Sep 20, 2023 3:42 PM

North Steyne just down from my Son & Daughter-in-law’s place – have eaten there a couple of times and like their Greek Food – sorry 18 Year Old Grandson out from Europe for 3 weeks misses out on seeing your Granddaughter

Hey Ozzie! That would have been a hoot. She is smart and beautiful (says grandmother!) & is very sweet as well. Her family lives at North Curl Curl – so very close to your people.

Vicki,

I have been told he is good looking, but he has a Girlfriend

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 3:58 pm

So, who is going to be taking over for Albo when he decides to spend more time with his family?

Linda Burney?

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 20, 2023 4:00 pm

dunno what happened then but to continue
112672 – 62271 = 30401

to convert to base 10 that equals 1×8^0+0x8^1+4×8^2+0x8^3+3×8^4=12445 cents.

QED

I will leave the rest of the calass to work through the other questions in base 13 and base 16 for homework.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 20, 2023 4:07 pm

class not calass

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2023 4:08 pm

hzhousewife
Sep 20, 2023 3:47 PM
Hmmm, may lay in some bubbles ready to toast Stephen Conroy, always good to have something to look forward to.

I bought a bottle of shimmery blue Gin a few weeks back. I think I’ll crack it open on the 14th next month. Appropriate colour for how the losers will be feeling.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 4:09 pm

There will be much finger pointing, gnashing of teeth and wailing amongst the Sorry Time. Best to avoid the ALPBC for a year or so.

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2023 4:12 pm

I’ve had a bit of a brain snap. Do ya reckon Marcia Langton reads the Cat? She has been awfully quiet the last week or so. Perhaps she has been receiving lessons from Calli’s “Lord High Elocutioner”. Quite suss that she hasn’t been heard since we Cats agreed that she sounds like the great man himself, Sir Les Patterson. 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 4:13 pm

Tried for a photo of noisy chicks just now, but they didn’t like the camera. Finally got one on my Hills Hoist. The kid is about 2 months old. Not an exciting photo, but neither to be sniffed at.

Makka
Makka
September 20, 2023 4:16 pm

There will be much finger pointing, gnashing of teeth and wailing amongst the Sorry Time.

Let’s hope Albo , the Marxists and the leftard media go full vindictive with OTT abuse of the “rascist majority” voting down the Voice.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 4:16 pm

High Court rules out crosses being counted as No votes
Tricia Rivera
Tricia Rivera

Mining magnate Clive Palmer and United Australia Party senator Ralph Babet’s challenge to count crosses as No votes has been rejected by the Federal Court.

The court ruled in favour of the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) on Wednesday, meaning a tick will count toward a Yes vote while a cross will not be accepted as a valid No vote.

The AEC issued a statement late last month defending the voting process and emphasised it’s focus on “electoral integrity”.

“The AEC completely and utterly rejects the suggestions by some that by transparently following the established, public and known legislative requirements we are undermining the impartiality and fairness of the referendum,” it said.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 4:16 pm

So, who is going to be taking over for Albo when he decides to spend more time with his family?

Good question. Chalmers thinks he has the goods. Wong has surprised even some Conservatives with the handling of her portfolio. And despite golf clubs & RAAF frivolity, Marles has supporters – although his erstwhile inability to nobble Defence Dept bureaucrats is losing points.

Bruce in WA
September 20, 2023 4:17 pm

(Okay, in fairness ‘social license’ was only ever a made up thing meant to be separate from the views of society at large. Bob Brown might have made it up, I think.)

First heard the term used after Port Arthur when we (firearms owners) were told society had decided to revoke our “social licence” to own any firearms. Still makes my blood boil even today.

Kneel
Kneel
September 20, 2023 4:18 pm

“I read Azimov in year 7…”

Azimov’s Eliah Baley trilogy (“Caves of Steel”, “The Naked Sun” and “World of Dawn”) are some great detective/mystery with some SF thrown in – no wokeness or smut (well, OK, one bit in the last one) just a good read.
Interesting too, that when written it seemed that to feed 8 billion people would require us all to be in “super cities” under a socialist regime and eating yeast-based synthetic food.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 4:21 pm

Do ya reckon Marcia Langton reads the Cat? She has been awfully quiet the last week or so

Nope. Muzzled by her own side. Mind you, some interesting people read the Cat. But they are from the other side of the political ring.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 20, 2023 4:21 pm

Duk, I think not many snipers wear out a barrel.

‘Hot’ loads like 6.5 Creedmore or 7mm Mag will wear a barrel out in 1000-1500 rounds. Its pretty easy to get to that with load development and practice – I’ve worn out 2 mile guns that way.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2023 4:24 pm

Do you all remember that wonderful Mr Durrell was one of the first to be cancelled by the baying mob around twenty years ago? He had the temerity to disagree with Global Boiling.

I think that might have been David Bellamy – who well and truly fell from grace as the Beabysea’s ‘much loved TV naturalist’ when he dared to opine: “Global warming is part of a natural cycle and there’s nothing we can actually do to stop these cycles.

Gerald Durrell died in 1995 and apparently was out of action well before that.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 4:24 pm

Plibbers has been touted often enough, but isn’t she mired in some muck these days? (Embattled is the word, I believe.) Or am I misremembering?

There was a time, as she knows herself, when she may well have taken the Leadership mantle. But those days have gone. The current portfolio does not suit her – that is why it was given to her. She constantly appears “sour” & that it what certain people wanted.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 20, 2023 4:26 pm

I’ve had a bit of a brain snap. Do ya reckon Marcia Langton reads the Cat? She has been awfully quiet the last week or so

I think deep within her black heart she knows it’s over.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 4:27 pm

Nope. Muzzled by her own side.

Bit late. Still a bit of water to go under the bridge yet but will influence more than a few votes on the day IMO.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 20, 2023 4:27 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Sep 20, 2023 4:16 PM

Wow chanelling the vibe again…

Bout the only thing they’ve got right lately is Pell conviction overturning.

No Armageddon in western Sydney today, meh maybe next time…

Gutho
Gutho
September 20, 2023 4:28 pm

Books for young Australian
Ion Idress
“Flynn of the Inland”, “The Drums of Mer”, “The Cattle King”, “The Silver City”, “Lasseters Last Ride, “The Desert Column” and many others.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 4:29 pm

High Court rules out crosses being counted as No votes

The fix is in.

Do these people realize the damage they are doing to our country with such hypocritical decisions?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 4:31 pm

Plibbers star has certainly faded. The Liar equivalent of Julie Bishop, pretender to the throne. Bishop’s time as Treasurer saw to that.

Makka
Makka
September 20, 2023 4:33 pm

Do these people realize the damage they are doing to our country with such hypocritical decisions?

” Our country ” and damage done to it , could not be further from their minds.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 20, 2023 4:33 pm

Gutho
Sep 20, 2023 4:28 PM
Books for young Australian
Ion Idress
“Flynn of the Inland”, “The Drums of Mer”, “The Cattle King”, “The Silver City”, “Lasseters Last Ride, “The Desert Column” and many others.

many upticks, I had forgotten how good Drums of Mer was (as well as the other).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2023 4:34 pm

The perils of travel.

Hope it is all worth it, Lizzie.

Oh it definitely is, Vicki.

What else could ruin the perfect harmony of life at home? Have a good old row and you know you’re still alive and kicking. Re-sets the love as you make up. 🙂

Last January in Singapore we stayed in Little India, now in Chinatown.
The architecture alone as well as the variety of the people allows meandering thoughts to go to the history of this trading island, where we sped in the taxi under the great waterway on which the island first found fame.

The food alone is worth it! Yum, I just love Chinese food and Hairy does too when it’s not cooked in Australia. He sez, anyway.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 20, 2023 4:36 pm

BON,

With neurotic female beagle we are sitting with pack family away – down at free dog park next to Manly Aquatic centre – sitting on shady bench overlooking oval – kookaburra went screaming by at maximum sleekness for speed pursued by noisy miners in turn pursued by Maggie’s – kooka flew in nearby tall palm tree & and Magpies attacked noisy miners – 1st time I have seen noisy miners get their just desserts

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2023 4:36 pm

I think that might have been David Bellamy – who well and truly fell from grace as the Beabysea’s ‘much loved TV naturalist’ when he dared to opine: “Global warming is part of a natural cycle and there’s nothing we can actually do to stop these cycles.”

Dr Faustus, thanks for the correction.
I admired both men. Good men, shame there are not more of them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2023 4:36 pm

On food, we were at Limani’s on Narrabeen Lake just last Sunday with friends.

I wonder if Aliice, of fond memory here, and who lived in Curl Curl, still lurks.

P
P
September 20, 2023 4:37 pm

25 years is a good run but the Greens are after her seat and may be successful at the next federal election.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 4:37 pm

Books for young Australian
Ion Idress

Add in the Boney books by Arthur Upfield.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2023 4:38 pm

It worries me that so many of the youngest generation in our community cannot see the factual errors in the YES campaign.

I dare say most Cats recall the movie “Guess who’s coming to dinner?” Wonderful movie, wonderful performances. There was a memorable line spoken by the young black doctor played by Sidney Poitier. I wonder if it reflects the thought of many young “woke” YES voters of today:

You can’t tell me when or where I’m out of line, or try to get me to live my life according to your rules. You don’t even know what I am, Dad, you don’t know who I am. You don’t know how I feel, what I think. And if I tried to explain it the rest of your life you will never understand. You are 30 years older than I am. You and your whole lousy generation believes the way it was for you is the way it’s got to be. And not until your whole generation has lain down and died will the dead weight of you be off our backs!

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 20, 2023 4:40 pm

On the base 8 calculation Tom Lehrer had a song called “New Math” which does a subtraction in base 8.
IMO it was pretty funny.
I would have enjoyed him as a maths lecturer, although I had some very good, motivated ones in any case.
He was also a very funny satirist and he used what he called an 88 string guitar.

JMH
JMH
September 20, 2023 4:41 pm

Albasleaze has to fall on his sword and I don’t see him doing that.

VOTE NO.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 20, 2023 4:42 pm

On reading, for adolescents and others, Bernard Cornwell’s ‘The Last Kingdom’ is a good intro to the history surrounding the Danish settlement of England’s north and the place of King Alfred who envisioned an eventual English nation, finally achieved by his grandson Athelstan. Its a full on fictional tale of a warrior Uhtred, born a Saxon but raised a Dane, embodying the conflict of religious ideas. It’s so well told, and there is a series of further tales to follow. TLK however stands alone for itself, highly recommended. They can also see it on Netflix, which they like.

Ceres
Ceres
September 20, 2023 4:43 pm

Love your writing Elizabeth Lizzie Beare. Your everyday anecdotes and amusing self deprecation such as “because without him I would have to move from followership to competent mode, which I mostly resist” are delightful.
No more travelling perils for you I hope.

eric hinton
eric hinton
September 20, 2023 4:47 pm

Welcome to Country Hour everyone and first up a George Jones and Tammy Wynnette number requested by one of our regular listeners, Tony in Marrickville.

Cryin’ Time

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 4:50 pm

Old Ozzie…my noisies are trained. 😀

Fascinating accidental experiment. After several years of hand feeding the noisy miners started to become tolerant of other species. A km up the road the local noisies will persecute currawongs and kookas like Dauntlesses attacking a Jap carrier. But at the Cafe they are totally ok with them.

The noisies even tolerate blue faced honey eaters, who are normally the absolute enemy, since they inhabit the same Darwinian niche. I get a few blue faces turn up, one juvenile atm who is getting lots of brownie points taking bits of bread back to her new sisters.

The noisies do still call an alarm if a cat or a hawk appears. No trust there.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 4:52 pm

Makka
Sep 20, 2023 3:32 PM
Interior Minister Nancy Faeser, of the Social Democratic Party (SPD), which forms part of the coalition government in Germany, has stated her party’s intention to massively expand voting rights for foreigners. This includes a plan for refugees who have lived in Germany for more than six months to be allowed to vote, according to the German daily BILD.

Great idea!

And Dildo Biden thinks it’s a great idea which is why the southern border is no longer a border.

They will vote democ(rat).

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2023 4:52 pm

Plibbers star has certainly faded. The Liar equivalent of Julie Bishop, pretender to the throne. Bishop’s time as Treasurer saw to that.

That seems to be the case – but, like Shorten himself, she’s still waving from the sidelines at anyone who will look at her.

Wong (arguably the better alternative) is in the wong house, Marles is an arseclown and a Victorian and only DPM because factions, Chalmers would struggle for support from the Queensland Left Faction and has only been in parliament for 10 years and so faces Buggins’ Turn opposition from the grisly undead, like Goblin Shorten.

This could be Chris Bowen’s time to shine…
[No, not really.]
#agoodgovernmentthatlostitswayandthensuddenlygotworse

Crossie
Crossie
September 20, 2023 4:56 pm

Mining magnate Clive Palmer and United Australia Party senator Ralph Babet’s challenge to count crosses as No votes has been rejected by the Federal Court.

The court ruled in favour of the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) on Wednesday, meaning a tick will count toward a Yes vote while a cross will not be accepted as a valid No vote.

The best indication yet that should YES win they will adjudicate any cases brought to them by the aboriginal industry in their favour.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 4:57 pm

eric hinton
Sep 20, 2023 4:47 PM
Welcome to Country Hour everyone and first up a George Jones and Tammy Wynnette number requested by one of our regular listeners, Tony in Marrickville.

Cryin’ Time

I like this one a heck of a lot better –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzZzGxReXmo

Makka
Makka
September 20, 2023 4:59 pm

Johnny Rotten
Sep 20, 2023 4:52 PM

This will only improve prospects for the conservative Right in Germany.

Germany: Gang rapes hit another record high in 2022, half of offenses committed by foreigners

https://rmx.news/crime/germany-gang-rapes-hit-another-record-high-in-2022-half-of-offenses-committed-by-foreigners/

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 5:00 pm

This could be Chris Bowen’s time to shine…
[No, not really.]

Can’t see the bruvvas trying that one on. Never say never.

Robert Sewell
September 20, 2023 5:00 pm

Crossie:

As has already been said by others on this blog, not teaching English to aboriginal children is damning them to a life of isolation, a museum existence, to be an exhibit for visiting media and aboriginal industry elites.

Well, yes. That’s the point.
They remain captives in a human zoo with no way of articulating a desire to get out.

Razey
Razey
September 20, 2023 5:00 pm

13.1 Only the Commonwealth government is recognised by the international community as having ‘international legal personality’.[1] The States have never had international legal personality and accordingly have never had the capacity to enter into treaties, even when they were colonies.[2] Professor Zines has described the situation as follows:

Although the external affairs power in s. 51(xxix) is not expressed to be exclusive, it is clear that it is only the Commonwealth that acts on the international scene. Australia speaks to the world with one voice, and that is the voice of the Commonwealth. The States did not develop international personality. Executive power to engage in diplomatic relations, enter into international treaties and conventions and declare war and peace is therefore an exclusive power of the Commonwealth.[3]

Q: How can a government make a ‘treaty’ with its own people?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 5:01 pm

Add in the Boney books by Arthur Upfield.

“The Sands of Windee” – some of the old timers, in the district where “we had the farm” had known one “Snowy Rowles.”

Rabz
September 20, 2023 5:02 pm

(Julie) Bishop’s time as Treasurer

err, Bear, did this take place in some bizarre parallel universe?

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2023 5:02 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2023 5:05 pm

I admired both men.

David Bellamy had to go.
A botanist – what would he know about the history of climate and its consequences?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2023 5:06 pm

err, Bear, did this take place in some bizarre parallel universe?

In the shadows.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 20, 2023 5:06 pm

On reading, for adolescents and others, Bernard Cornwell’s ‘The Last Kingdom’ is a good intro to the history surrounding the Danish settlement of England’s north and the

In primary I was reading Rosemary Sutcliffe, the Eagle of the 9th sticks especially in my mind, sparked an interest in the ancient world, then Leonard Cotterell, read most of his books, the ones about the Pharoahs got me interested in Ancient Egypt, then mum got me Ludovic Kennedy’s Bismarck book, as I was getting interested in WW2, which deepened that interest and naval history, veering into Douglas Reeman in high school

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 5:08 pm

Razey
Sep 20, 2023 5:00 PM
13.1 Only the Commonwealth government is recognised by the international community as having ‘international legal personality’.[1] The States have never had international legal personality and accordingly have never had the capacity to enter into treaties, even when they were colonies.[2] Professor Zines has described the situation as follows:

I went through that logic the other day. Please pay attention.

The Executive has the power under Section 61 of the Australian Constitution.

The Australian States do not have that power.

Any ‘treaty’ that the Australian States make is a ‘Clayton Treaty’. The treaty that you have when you are not making a ‘treaty’.

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2023 5:10 pm

The luvvies just can’t stay away from using celebs for the Yes campaign. Despite polling showing that was definitely not the way to go, the Labor and assorted luvvies can’t stop being star-struck.

Daily Mail Poll asking if you are more likely to vote Yes if a celeb does, is running at 100% NO! hahahahahah

JC
JC
September 20, 2023 5:13 pm

WSJ op-ed shows interesting similarities between Trump and Bibi. Every time the Israeli left used lawfare, Bibi and the Likud party’s popularity went up.

Though the political cultures and personalities in Israel and America are quite different, Messrs. Trump and Netanyahu have something in common. Both men have run for election under the heavy cloud of criminal charges. Recent polling highlights another commonality: Their run-ins with law enforcement have proved beneficial to them.

An August Wall Street Journal survey of Republican primary voters revealed that 59% favor Mr. Trump over the other contenders. Forty-eight percent said his four indictments made them more likely vote for him. Asked about the result, pollster Tony Fabrizio said, “It is shocking that a potential general election rematch between the last president and the current one is polling this closely, given Trump’s indictments.”

Yet Israel has experienced the same dynamic over the past seven years. Mr. Netanyahu was languishing in the polls in 2016. His main rival, Yair Lapid, had overtaken him, and public support for his Likud Party had dropped low enough that its right-wing bloc looked set to lose its majority in the Knesset, Israel’s Parliament. Mr. Netanyahu’s standing looked more precarious than ever in January 2017, when police detectives rolled up at his official residence to question him under caution of suspicion, in two separate cases, of bribery, fraud and breach of trust. His political career seemed doomed—until his party leapt ahead of Mr. Lapid’s to a four-seat lead in subsequent polling.

In February 2018, the police formally recommended that the prime minister be prosecuted. Two of his closest confidants agreed to serve as witnesses for the state. The results were swift and devastating—for the opposition. Polling revealed that Likud maintained its 30 seats, putting it far ahead of all other parties. Months later the police lobbed another bribery charge against the prime minister.

In February 2019, Attorney General Avichai Mandelblit announced his intention to indict Mr. Netanyahu in all three cases—less than two months before the general election. That, too, followed the familiar script: Likud won 35 seats, a 16-year party record. Before the criminal proceedings began, Mr. Netanyahu’s party had never secured a million votes in a general election. Likud has since crossed that threshold five times.

For years the conventional wisdom in Israel was that a prime minister couldn’t stay in office while under investigation. Mr. Netanyahu even argued as much in 2008, when he said of the beleaguered Ehud Olmert: “This prime minister is sunk up to his neck in investigations and has no moral and public mandate to decide fateful issues for the State of Israel.” Bibi has since taken the opposite tack, and his trial now earns coverage at the end of nearly every news broadcast. This episode is now in its eighth year—and, from his political perspective, long may it live.

The lesson for the U.S. is clear: A criminal indictment isn’t necessarily a death sentence for a politician’s career. It can be the special ingredient that propels him to new heights.

Robert Sewell
September 20, 2023 5:17 pm

Tom
Sep 20, 2023 9:39 AM

It’s costing us a bomb to finance BOM — nearly half a trillion dollars. That’s very expensive when you’re using ideology instead of science to compose forecasts.

Isn’t that half a billion dollars, Tom or am I reading it wrong?

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 5:19 pm

The Animal Justice Party opposes the killing of animals, but has backed Victoria’s traditional owners shooting ducks.

Presumably with traditional, high powered assault boomerangs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 5:22 pm

Fifteen year old kooka lady a few minutes ago.

There’s been a political reorganization in kookaland recently, and she’s been arriving for the past week or so. Previously the local kooka clan, headed by her son, wouldn’t let her come to the Cafe.

She’s the very first Cafe birdie, she started accepting food from my hand in early 2011.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 5:23 pm

Q: How can a government make a ‘treaty’ with its own people?

As I said on the old fred. It can’t. Please forward onto mrs alber sleasy the australian prime dipstick.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2023 5:26 pm

Qantas boss Alan Joyce has short term shares withheld over ACCC allegations
Gerard CockburnThe West Australian
Wed, 20 September 2023 2:25PM
Comments

Former Qantas boss Alan Joyce’s massive $21.4 million pay packet is in jeopardy after his short-term bonuses were withheld while the airline is subject to allegations it misled customers over the sale of tickets on cancelled flights.

The airline’s annual report released on Wednesday afternoon showed the former chief executive raked in the majority of his $24m pay package, despite abruptly leaving the airline on September 5 and comes amid calls for his bonuses to be scrapped as the airline’s reputation copped a beating.

But a massive chunk is at risk of being stripped from the former top boss, with board outlining allegations made by the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission of claims it sold fares on so-called “ghost flights” had prompted his bonuses and further entitlements to be delayed and reassessed.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2023 5:29 pm

Ion Idress

I have a First Edition copy of his 1931 book, Prospecting for Gold.

In less than a century, we’ve gone from a place where an enterprising chap could have a chat with knowledgeable men at the Mines Department, stake some ground, hand-build a small dam, bend and rivet some steel sheets into a water pipe, stitch together some canvas into a hose, pop in a beer bottle neck as a nozzle – wait for the rains and wash gravel through a sluice made from local materials to collect “quite a considerable number of ounces“.

Sounds farfetched; but I’ve spent the past couple of years working with an old goldfield covered with tantalising traces of this sort of thing.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 5:35 pm

strong>The Problem with Goldbugs

COMMENT: Mr. Armstrong, I just wanted to say thank you so much. I was listening to the perpetual gold analysts for years who never changed their tune. It was always buy, buy, buy, and the dollar would go to zero any day now. They always looked at the Fed and the balance sheet, and when they were wrong, they blamed the bankers for manipulating gold.

I sold out in 2013, and you said gold would decline for two years. It did not crack $1,000 as you hoped, but it elected two monthly bullish reversals within two months of that low, and you said it would rally to test $2,000. You also projected that the stock market would outperform gold, and contrary to all the gold bugs, you said they would rise together. Nobody made that forecast.

I had two friends who did not listen to you. They took home equity loans to buy more gold and did not sell in 2013. The gold bugs ruined the marriages of my former friends, and both lost their houses. We no longer talk because they lost everything when I followed you. The stock market did much better. People need to understand that when you forecast the world, you see things are all connected.

Thank you so much for the education.

REPLY: I am glad you understand that you cannot forecast a single market to the exclusion of everything else. The world economy is all connected. As I have said, without World War I & II, the USA would still be an agrarian society. The capital shifted, transforming the USA into the world’s financial capital. The problems with the goldbugs’ view of the world is that:

They have broken rule #1 of investing – NEVER MARRY THE TRADE.
They are prejudiced by old economic theories that have not been updated since the 16th century.
When Sir Thomas Gresham (c. 1519 – 1579) devised his Law that bad money drives out good, the metal content determined foreign exchange on the Amsterdam Exchange. Today, the backing of a currency has returned to the days of the Roman Empire. Rome was militarily superior, as is the case of the United States, when it became the #1 military power after WWII. Yet more importantly, Rome had a consumer-based economy, so everyone was proud to be Roman, for it gave them access to the largest consumer market in history. The Emperor Marcus Aurelius (161-180 AD) had even sent an ambassador to meet with the emperor of China. The United States currency is NOT backed by gold or any commodity. It is supported by a consumer-based economy, the same as Rome.

India traded with Rome. That is where the silk from China moved through India to Rome. However, India was also the supplier of dyes and spices. Rome’s coinage was worth more than the metal content of the time of Gresham during the 16th century, for there was no significant military power nor a consumer-based economy. For over 200 years, Southen India imitated Roman gold and silver coins; at times, they even weighed more in gold than genuine coins.

Here we have an imitation gold aureus of Septimus Severus (193-211AD), which weighs 11.3 grams compared to 7.1 grams for a genuine Roman aureus. That meant that the Indian imitation was nearly 60% heavier. The coinage had a premium because of the consumer-based economy in Rome, and that attributed a premium to the coinage that had NOTHING to do with the metal content. Southern India NEVER issued their own gold coinage. They imitated that of Rome. Today, many emerging markets use the US dollar and borrow in dollars.

The world has changed – I hate to tell them. The old theory of the Quantity of Money does not hold up under any correlation. The nonsense that gold rises with inflation has ruined many and bankrupted others. The central banks have used this theory supported by Keynesian Economics, and it has utterly failed. We have ballooning national debts thanks to Austrian Economics, which propagated the idea that borrowing rather than printing would be less inflationary because you were not creating more money – you were supposed to be draining the money supply. Everything is connected. If a foreign investor buys property in the United States, his money, be it in euro, yen, or yuan, is converted to dollars, and the domestic “real” money supply increases, for the seller, now has that cash to spend. This is not accounted for in any of these antiquated theories.

It is time we reassess how the modern economy of the 21st century truly works. Currency pegs, gold standards, and schemes like the G5 Plaza Accord, which tried to lower the value of the dollar to reduce the trade deficit being oblivious to the fact that they also lowered the value of foreign investment in the dollar, have done nothing but create confusion and economic chaos. Central banks have nothing other than the old-fashioned 16th-century theory of the quantity of money to play with.

Keynes added to the chaos by advocating, like Marx, that the government had the power to control the economy. Keynes advocated the end of Laissez-Faire in 1926. Yet, before he died, Keynes admitted that he was wrong. Nobody paid attention because once the government seized that power, they refused to hand it back to the people.

Gold is NOT a hedge against inflation. It declined for 19 years after 1980 when inflation rose, as did the national debt. Gold is a hedge against the government. That will be why it will make new highs on the 4th run – not because of the Fed or the CPI.

I am finishing up a new book on this crisis in theory. Not only have the godbugs been wrong, but so have the central bankers and those in government. It is time we take a closer look at how things truly function that apparently, like Thomas Gresham, it takes someone to observe reality from a trader’s perspective.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/markets-by-sector/precious-metals/gold/the-problem-with-goldbugs/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 5:36 pm

Thanks again guys for the yr6 reading at yr9 level books. I appreciate it very much.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 5:37 pm

I have a First Edition copy of his 1931 book, Prospecting for Gold.

Faustus, one of my fave novels as a kid was this one:

By the Great Horn Spoon! by Sid Fleischman

I can thoroughly recommend it as a teenage-level book. Beware: it might turn your kid into a prospecting geologist though.

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 5:39 pm

Aaaand…right on cue we have firebugs lighting fires. And lots of tv footage and yap.

I wonder what prompted them to do that?

Tom
Tom
September 20, 2023 5:40 pm

Isn’t that half a billion dollars, Tom or am I reading it wrong?

Woops. Yes, Robert, the Bureau of Meteorology now costs us $479 million a year — the point being that, a decade ago, BOM was costing us around $360 million a year — a nominal increase of around 3 per cent a year in the past decade when the bureau’s forecasts have become less reliable, not 3% more reliable, because the bureau is now using political ideology, instead of science, to construct its daily forecasts, including its current hysterical propaganda redefining temperatures above 30C as a “heat wave”.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2023 5:40 pm

we have firebugs lighting fires

With Direct Energy Weapons?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2023 5:44 pm

With Direct Energy Weapons?

Yes.

JC
JC
September 20, 2023 5:45 pm

Wodney, The word, “Treaty” is being used loosely to describe an agreement being reached. In this case an agreement between a group of people and the government or state. New Zealand has a treaty with its indigenous. The US has treaties with theirs and so does Canada. We can certainly oppose an agreement/treaty with our indig, but to suggest the Australian government is precluded from creating a legally binding document of some sort is stupid. Last time you delved into a legal discussion you faceplanted by describing this blog as public property implying there was no blog owner. If in doubt, go ask Marty’s AI as Destiny will set you straight.

P
P
September 20, 2023 5:50 pm

Just listening to 10 News and reading newcatallaxy when out of the blue came to me an old hymn from perhaps near on 65-70 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOjr9QEj9oA
Perhaps a phenomenon that occurs with old age. Don’t know as I haven’t been this age before.

JMH
JMH
September 20, 2023 5:53 pm

On literature for children, my pre-adolescent reading was Jim Corbett. The Man-eating Leopard of Rudraprayag was my absolute favourite. Probably responsible for my fondness for large cats to this day. Hello, Kevin Richardson, the Lion Whisperer.

JC
JC
September 20, 2023 5:54 pm

LOL at this ignoramus Wodney is constantly posting here without any regard to truth, reality or honesty.

As I have said, without World War I & II, the USA would still be an agrarian society. The capital shifted, transforming the USA into the world’s financial capital.

The US was the world’s industrial power before WW1 and didn’t require wars to move from agrarian to industrial. In fact, war is devastating to any economy and reduces living standards: even the winner. The American public were worse off materially at the end of WW2 in 1939.

The absolute horseshit this idiot posts here is beyond laughable. Now lets watch the ticks. 🙂

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2023 5:54 pm

Q: How can a government make a ‘treaty’ with its own people?

In the context of the normal meaning of the word it can’t, obviously.

But in the world of Reconciliation, Treaty is the required term, because “always was and always will be” and all the munni and self-determination that might flow from that. It just so happens that governments are happy to play along with the other side’s defined terms while there may be a vote or two in urban electorates.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 20, 2023 5:55 pm
Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2023 5:57 pm

JC
Sep 20, 2023 5:45 PM

Hello J er k off cretin and I hope that you are over your D Dan Sictorian sickness. Not really. LOL.

Please keep up your short arse crap and in the meantime STFU. Your abuse is so obtuse. And you seem to be missing out on that medicine that you so much need. That is the stuff to keep your anger management under control.

Please give my regards to Mrs Stencho Pantyhose, Dotty Dot of Dottiness and the Neanderthal person.

Bye for now.

JC
JC
September 20, 2023 5:58 pm

Whoops.. than in 1939 or 1941.

billie
billie
September 20, 2023 5:58 pm

What’s the problem with country aboriginals leaning english?

They might discover what’s going in the world on via the internet and seek adventure, leaving the outback and seeking opportunity perhaps?

Thus removing the foundation of the activist’s profession, crying about the oppression of the people, generations of stolen children etc etc

These are problems that will not be solved by more adminstrators in Canberra, by more committee meetings, by more reports and hand wringing.

The truth of it is that the activists and the aboriginal industry would be out of work, would have to find employment elsewhere to earn an actual living without being priviledged by the status of “closing the gap”, or “reconcilliation”, “whatever business”. Scammers, leaners and moochers the lot of them, if they cared about progress why has nothing changed in 30 years,but got worse.

Someone once mentioned to me that it’s similar to the Palestinian’s plight in the middle east. Why are there still refugee camps in Jordan and the West bank? Because to remove them and rehome the residents removes the activist’s profession. PLO, guys with guns being tough.

What do you reckon generations of guys with guns being tough are going to do if the middle east, the Palestinitan situation, is suddenly resolved?

Will they become teachers, public servants, shoe salesmen, open an ice cream shop, a garage?

Of course not, they want their careers to continue, their easy life, same as the aboriginal industry, they are important, not to be messed with, have rank and respect in their community and an income from other people.

Australia gives $ to Palestine every year, check the DFAT site, $32.5M last year and we’re just one of many many countires chipping in .. to uphold tough guys with guns. You think they have daytime jobs and being tough guys is part time .. pfft, no way.

The Voice is a huge stretch at getting their income and professions embedded in the constitution, and all of them want a shore of GDP .. for what?

Seriously, if we were to ever close the gap, what would all these moochers do? Would we then remove the voice from the constitution .. no way, ain’t going to happen and like the Palestinian refugee camps, people’s lives in the outback will not be allowed to improve.

**She has been awfully quiet the last week or so. Our Marcia .. thinkin’ up curses, I curse you, and you, and you. The bitterness and regret she must see when she looks in the mirror, the envy when she looks at the world.

calli
calli
September 20, 2023 6:00 pm

In fact, war is devastating to any economy and reduces living standards: even the winner.

It may be that the Civil War held back the USA in its competition with the industrialised UK. Had they not been so busy fighting each other they could have been real competition.

Just something I read somewhere or other.

  1. Reality bites. Hun: Extending a deal that keeps Victoria’s dirtiest power station running to 2028 is likely to be considered…

  2. Muslim group targeting Labor seats launches campaign in BroadmeadowsThe Muslim Votes Matter group is aiming to win over Victorian Labor…

  3. Fair whack of publicity in the media over Brucie (of Knickerless fame) claiming “dole” whilst Channel 7 paid big bucks…

1.5K
0
Oh, you think that, do you? Care to put it on record?x
()
x