That is a very concise travelogue!
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Probably fearful that people with red-green colour blindness would mistake green for red. Which would be understandable of course.
The Houthis still got the Saudis to the negotiating table because .. The Saudi’s haven’the stomache or inclination for a…
If the Houthis tried this on Israel , hundreds of planes would appear over Yemen inside 24 hours to carpet…
the do less damage that way
Hmmm, sneaky daylight savings has the new OT starting early…
Hello in there…
Good morning, Bushkid. It’s been a long day.
‘Lo peeps. I hope everyone is as healthy & happy as circumstances permit.
The Fourth Musketeer?
As I was saying before I was rudely interrupted by the new thread:
Well, most of what it could have sent is in scraps scattered over the battlefields of eastern Ukraine.
VDH isn’t always very sound on this kind of thing. In 1973, Israel was fighting nation-state opponents equipped with Soviet hardware in conventional, high intensity warfare. The Soviets undertook a similar resupply to the Egyptians and Syrians to make up for their battlefield losses, too.
Today is not 1973. Israel already has more than enough hardware to deal with Hamas – in this regard it’s an entirely lopsided conflict. The difficulty is going to be in urban conflict and engaging an enemy that makes itself indistinguishable from civilians and is perfectly happy for 20 of its soldiers to die in the process of killing one Israeli soldier.
Today is not 2006, either. I suspect Israeli public today is less concerned about world opinion than it was then, and there will be an expectation that this is the conflict that will settle the dispute definitively. My guess is there’s going to be a two state imposition at the end of this road.
I missed the show but top story at Daily Mail is about ch 7 Spotlight show with Aboriginal Ray Martin and three Senators.
As I thought he would be he was bad for the Yes case. Jacinta and host got him good.
Seems 72% of voting viewers voting no.
And now wasting another First XI spot on some mindless gasbagging:
Does this Hamas vs Israel mini-war jeopardise the Abraham Accords in any way?
In a word, No. Although the AAs were trumpeted as a brilliant foreign policy achievement of the Orange Man Administration, they only involved deals between Israel, UAE, and Bahrain. There were no peace deals between any pair of actually-belligerent parties.
Britannica Encyclopaedia even says:
Today the possibility that the Abraham Accords would inspire more countries to join seems further away than ever.
Dad watched the Ch 7 discussion panel of Aboriginals. He reports Jacinta Price spoke & performed brilliantly, she slayed ’em.
Lidia Thorpe was across her case & prosecuted it well (it really pained him to say that)
Senator McCarthy was utterly hopeless, repeating the same lines regardless, like one of those dolls where you pull the string in its back & it speaks.
Ray “Aborigine” Martin was a train wreck with his attempt to walk back the “Dickheads & Dinosaurs” comment, reckoned Ray “Aborigine” would have been better off shutting up & not digging any deeper.
Well, I’ve been lurking on and off from the sidelines today… we have many friends in Galilee so I’ve been refreshing X every five seconds to see if Hezbollah have initiated any real steps from the North…
…another restless evening/night/days/weeks coming up for Israel I fear…
Daylight saving sux in WA…
See you on the flip side ?
The w*nker deserved it.
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steveinman:
Paris Vigilante
steveinman:
Drunken Bar Brawl
A good walk with Cash. Rowdy the mini horse has been banned from the joint.
W*nkers.
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woof bark growl:
Cash 2.0 Great Dane at The Grove and Farmers Market in Los Angeles 58
Johannes Leak. Brilliant.
Brett Lethbridge.
Peter Broelman.
Michael Ramirez.
A.F. Branco.
Tom Stiglich.
Chip Bok.
Steve Kelley.
Thanks Tom. Yes and Leak is brilliant.
Robert Sewell
Oct 9, 2023 3:46 AM
Luzu:
Didn’t work well in 1918-19, but by crikey it worked in 1945.
But notice it’s not the wealthy Arabs going all jihadi but rather those with bleak prospects?
The reason why they have bleak prospects (economically) is because they have built a life based on killing Jews.
Even the Saudi’s are sick of this shit.
It’s bad for their current/future business of buying assets in western nations to produce income when the oil is not needed in current volumes.
As Tom said, Leak is brilliant. Straight to the point.
“Tom
Oct 9, 2023 4:02 AM
Johannes Leak. Brilliant.”
My God, Leak skewers it.
In 1983, Iran used a proxy to blow up a marine barracks in Beirut.
In 2023, Iran used a proxy to murder civilians at a music festival.
The sooner Israel demonstrates it’s happy to target key people & assets in Iran the more the rest of the middle east will support it.
And if it doesn’t do it now, when will it do it?
I see the down ticker is up early. A fairly innocuous comment about Leak and his cartoon and I score a downtick!
Downticked just because 😛
Hi Wodney!
Hamas use a hoe to behead a Thai migrant worker.
Again, twitter & TikTok have something up the corporate media wouldn’t dare show.
Hamas are the ones videoing this stuff & uploading it.
They really are sub-human.
Um
My sources indicate even the indigenous in Walgett aren’t overwhelmingly supportive of Da Voice.
Dot, what do you reckon the no-show % will be.
Over 700 Israelis murdered.
260 of those were at the music festival, Cassie.
Pure animals.
A bloody good montage.
RARE: SARA – 11 Minute Long Version – Stevie Nicks – Fleetwood Mac
Fear.
Fear motivates.
A military victory (the reapplication of security) is the primary goal.
Politics come later.
Placating those who have no intention of accepting anything less than your submission, is a task for future diplomacy.
The rest of us can only watch and note the enablers.
Further to Voice polling, I caught some of Fatty Murray’s programme last night, and he was dissecting Voice polling. Apparently, polling in migrant communities shows support for da Voice to be lowest among the Chinese community. What a surprise….NO, it isn’t a surprise. I think the you’d see the same among the Vietnamese.
It confirms my thoughts that the people who’ll save this country from this iniquitous voice will be rural Australians, working class Australians, elderly Australians, and new Australians. It won’t be effluent Teal voting scum in electorates like Wentworth.
The Liars are obviously not totally useless. The Wong and Albanese clowns had those reverse gears fitted quick time.
Did Wong actually review the situation in Israel before parroting the lefty nonsense handed to her by her political science graduate staff or the antisemitic Foreign Affairs communusts.
Unbelievanly stupid, ideologically driven campus clowns.
What are the chances this virus selectively destroys some of its own infrastructure (school/hospital), with or without occupants, & claim the same as inflicted by Israel?
Relative to population size, imagine that figure in the US.
Geez what a curve ball. “When do you expect peace in the Middle East?” might be easier to answer.
The no show vote will cruel the NO vote.
I expect it to be higher than in 1999 but I hope and expect it won’t be very high.
It could be large though as people being pissed off are likely to not vote, against their own interests.
I’ll say three per cent.
It could be much higher. I think the early voting indicates people are willing to vote no instead of just getting angry and not turn up.
If you want me to guess the turnout in Walgett, you can tell me how many people will be hungover and non functioning on Saturday in Walgett.
I read that yesterday.
They had a link to their campaign summaries and “fact checking” piece.
Entitled “You (sic) Voice referendum cheat sheet”.
Cheat sheet indeed.
I think the no vote data by seat will be a key indicator of the Retarded Liberals ability to be competitive at the next federal election.
As will the no-show vote.
If something like the Voice doesn’t get you off the couch to vote (either way), it shows just how disconnected you are.
“260 of those were at the music festival, Cassie.
Pure animals.”
Young people, I’m trying to show and feel “restraint” Bern. And their bodies mutilated, and on parade in Gaza, that’s what Israel has to deal with.
Last a sneerer appeared here on the old fred, and this sneerer argued that since I cared so much I should fly to Israel. Given I’m in my late fifties (reasonably fit), my services would be rather pointless when it comes to fighting, but what is interesting is that when stuff like this happens, people’s responses really do separate the wheat from the chaff.
The sneerer went on to write that “Borders constantly change throughout time.”. This isn’t some border conflict or skirmish, it’s a conflict about existence. Hamas and most Palestinians are quite clear about the fact that they do not want Israel to exist and they do not want Jews living in any part of “Palestine”. When they parrot from “the river to the sea”, they mean it. It is a call to genocide.
As I write, the corpses of Jewish men, women and children, hundreds of them, are lying in body bags or being paraded in the streets of Gaza.
Rowan Dean, in his editorial yesterday, brutally and bluntly said it best. I would urge everyone to watch it.
The people pushing it and popping in front of the news are overwhelmingly well-heeled and white. Oh, I know there are people out there who insist on calling themselves Aboriginal because a great great grand-parent (going back near a century now, too) was Aboriginal but I wonder how many Aborigines really take those claims seriously: Someone raking in high six-figures constantly on TV and in magazines and whatnot saying that a single great great grandparent entitles them to speak for you.
Almost no white people take the 1/16 thing seriously. It is an example of how ridiculous the whole thing as become.
During my shift at the booth yesterday, fellow Noers were extremely agitated over Albanese’s stunt of appearing at the Lakemba Mosque and seemingly promising some form if special priveledge for the Muzzies post Voice.
The expressed opinion was that he is a man with no moral base who holds Australian values and citizens in contempt.
I was surprised at the vehemence of the reaction.
The great strategist would seem to have been trapped in front once again.
It was all about “soft targets”.
Music festival goers are typically younger, “progressive” types.
It shouldn’t be lost on Australians that our summer festival series kicked off here two weekends ago.
Pretty chilling.
Given this person is OK with “fluid borders” and the ebb and flow of people across those borders, he/she wouldn’t have much time for the 1/1024ths screaming “Invasion Day” 250 years after the event.
Like in 1967, when the Israelis took territory after being attacked?
Borders do change over time.
After WWII Germany rightfully lost a f*ck ton of territory.
After the 6 days war, all Pali’s should have been forced out.
Not just to Gaza or the West Bank.
All the way out.
Similar to the big Greek & Turkish swichteroo which wasn’t all that long ago.
A simple six-word question is sinking, if it hasn’t already sunk the Voice. It’s a question that was asked from the start:
Where has all the money gone?
We could have all had flying cars by now.
Snap, Sancho.
Ah, yes. “Borders change”.
Also, “Palestinian land” and “Always is; always was”.
The nerve. The absolute nerve.
Ray Martin thinks he’s got the sort of clout Denis Walter swings around at Carols by Candlelight.
Where has all the money gone?
The more one reads about Noel from Noosa & his business dealings, the more this question needs to be asked.
Yes, heaven forbid someone contradict you by looking at any history book anywhere…
Borders do change, that is the nature of warfare…
Isreal could always take the genocide to them, but I guess that would be hypocritical…
The reality is that the state of Isreal will only exist while the U.S./Europe can afford to support it.
Once that financial and military support goes, so will Isreal.
I understand that you see this as insulting and some form of personal attack, but that is the reality of the situation.
No support for Israel in our streets but the start of the Pali support network on show.
Wait until Israel really winds up the clean out of Gaza and watch the Green/Labor left squeal for the innocent victims.
Teals by name will be ducking this one.
Steve trickler
Oct 9, 2023 7:18 AM
A bloody good montage.
RARE: SARA – 11 Minute Long Version – Stevie Nicks – Fleetwood Mac
Down ticker.
Go listen and watch breaky TV and Radio. Sheep!
My position has always, and will always be that if the British had committed genocide upon arrival in Australia, then we wouldn’t have the problems we’re having now.
Israel can pay their own way and developed their own nukes. If the US cut them off, they’d buy from France.
Syria wouldn’t exist without Iran and Russia now. Prove me wrong. GO!!!
Ray desparately tried to dig his way out of his “dickheads and dinosaurs” jibe on Spotlight last night.
“Anyone – on either side – who doesn’t read up and inform themselves is a dickhead.”
Nek minnit, they play the clip of Luigi being asked if he had read the 25 pages attached to the Voice thingy.
“No. Why would I?”
Ray wasn’t asked where that put Luigi on the Dickhead spectrum.
Full time Fiji 23 Portugal 24.
Portugal with a converted try one and a half minutes before full time to win.
Portugal fans going apeshit. 😉
We’d have other problems though, like living in an autocratic feudal bushido state where genocide is okay. We might have full blown slavery too.
William Wilberforce probably wouldn’t have existed either.
If the Romans held out and Islam never existed, then neither probably would have any of the States of the British Isles and Ireland.
Separatists and grievance merchants of the voice may find their students distracted by the events in Israel.
What lesson should we take?
We’re not doing that now??? :/
Bait! Walliebees out on points difference.
Oh look, the sneerer appears.
As for..
Yes, heaven forbid someone contradict you by looking at any history book anywhere…
LOL, I don’t just “look” at history books, I read them. Clearly you don’t.
I hope the governments of Europe are ready for the noise from Israel to start resonating the antennae of some of their recent imports.
Cops beat up autistic kids in a health lockdown, they’re not practice cutting on petty crime yet.
Yes, it is ironic that their attempt to get a bigger, longer Shinkansen gravy train might result in a few carriages being decoupled from the existing ATSIC 4.2.1 diesel gravy train.
A fair point.
Poor timing!’ will be the cry at Rentacrowd HQ.
“Syria wouldn’t exist without Iran and Russia now. Prove me wrong. GO!!!”
True, and Iran has been getting a lot of bucks from the US tax payer, courtesy of the Sniffer’s administration. Billions of bucks handed to them, only weeks ago. No wonder Iran feels empowered.
Mmmyes.
Luigi might want to consider the end game of creating “Nations” within a Nation and stoking the grievance fire.
And the point of your assumption/insult is what exactly?
It doesn’t address anything I put forward, it’s just an attempt to ignore/discredit through insulting the person rather than countering the information.
“It doesn’t address anything I put forward, it’s just an attempt to ignore/discredit through insulting the person rather than countering the information.”
The sneering continues. Go read some history books.
The “No” vote represents the upper limit of the conservative vote. By definition, No is a conservative position.
The challenge is for some conservative party to replicate that vote in a State or Federal election.
Should be simple, right? Just set your policies adjacent to the No position:
No welcome to country
No indigenous round in the footy
No promotion of faggotry or trans
No spending money on progressive causes
…
Simples.
“I hope the governments of Europe are ready for the noise from Israel to start resonating the antennae of some of their recent imports.”
Already happening in London. And apparently, here at Sydney Uni, there’s going to a pro-Hamas demo.
Anyway, As I write, here in Australia Jewish schools, kindergartens, synagogues, old people’s homes, communal organisations and so on are on high alert.
I see certain types in Lakemba celebrating the attacks. What do the Aboriginal aristocracy think about this seeing as though they are supporting Teh Voice?
Ok, I’ll reply in kind then…
Go sulk in a corner 🙂
Is that better? I can play the insult game too you know
Taking hostages right at the start is a new tactic. Hamas opened this war with a strategy aimed at holding the cards at all stages, but mainly when it’s over, even knowing Israel will smash just about all their military assets.
A yuuuge own goal by the Yessirs and their “fact-checker” enablers.
When confronted by the $35 billion figure they “fact check” it down to $8 or $10 billion.
Average Joe thinks, “Well, they don’t know how much it is, but it is a shitload either way. And it achieves nothing. And it will likely double if da Voice gets up”.
Dutton used a good anology on Spotlight last night.
“It (funding) is a huge funnel in Canberra but, by the time it gets to Alice Springs, it is a trickle”.
Poor judgment by either Elbow, or Elbow’s ponytails (the Tele):
Aside from raising the question of why a PM would go to a mosque to drum up support for an indig-based referendum, evidently not all were impressed – let alone Mundine:
That mosque was in Lakemba. Coincidentally, also in that patch (and in a separate Tele piece):
Oh, Anthony.
What a cretin.
Mike Pence blames his GOP competitors Donald Trump, Vivek Ramaswamy and Ron DeSantis for the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel
test cutting on petty criminals
Apple autocorrect is so authoritarianly stupid it is useless.
Go “Duck” yourself.
Are you there yet?
OMW.
No no, On my way! , to get my balls waxed girlfriend ta muah! xoxo
Partial snap BB.
“Ok, I’ll reply in kind then…
Go sulk in a corner ?”
I’m not sulking, sneerer.
Our pals in Lakemba are getting antsy – a big pro-Palestine turnout on the streets with the usual Jew killing chants.
I expect our Jewish schools will be taking extra precautions this morning as children return for final term.
The very fact that they have to be under this type of pressure is a disgrace to Australia.
I’m not Jewish, nor do I have family in the ME, I support Cassie, JC, BBS, Pogria and others on this subject.
Hmmm yes Vivek Ramaswamy, who has never been elected to office and the youngest candidate, this is all of his fault?
Pence is a fraud like Fauci. It’s amazing his act lasted so long.
As for the other joke candidates:
“Former Reichprasident, Donald Drumpfhitler Duck!” said the Newark lardball, licking his lips thinking about Canard la Orang’, the way Ilhan Omar looks at Matt Gaetz’s butt in Congress…
Not just South Vietnamese.
A bloke I know was in the AATTV, training a Cambodian battalion. After Pol Pot took over, the battalion was loaded into trucks, taken into the jungle, and machine gunned.
The people whose fingers Elbow was licking last week want my grandchildren, their cousins, their parents and grandparents dead. Just because some don’t come out and say it plainly but hide their desire is meaningless – they have plenty of drones to do their dirty work.
Whatever it takes eh, Albo.
“The very fact that they have to be under this type of pressure is a disgrace to Australia.”
Yep.
Cassie, for some of us it’s deeply personal. Easy to sit on the sidelines and opine when it isn’t your own flesh and blood under attack.
I recognise that there is an almost unanimous view on the subject.
I see things differently to most people, always have.
My view on how the state of Isreal came to be, as well as how national borders of countries and empires has shifted throughout history is being used as evidence that I’m anti-Isreal or pro-Hamas.
Feel free to support whoever you wish, It isn’t hurting myself or anyone else.
The question of who is really an “aboriginal” (not “indigenous”, which has a different meaning) must be resolved after this. Being generous, one-eighth could be acceptable, but nothing less.
The rabid leftard Israeli rag Haaretz claimed “dozens” of Hamas troops invaded the Gaza region to initiate the attack..
Either Hareetz is competing with the ABC, CNN, NYT and WP for the most mendacious news reporting on the planet, or there are seriously serious questions that need to be asked about what the Israeli army had been doing along the Gaza border.
A notoriously unstable region, one would have expected a massive, alert army presence there. Not to mention fully deployed rapid-response technology.
Early days yet, but even leaving a politicised Mossad aside, massive failures in Israeli defence, especially the army, are going to be revealed.
A tragedy, on all fronts.
Jean Raspail’s ‘The Camp of the Saints’ novel warning of immigration influx has been realized 50 years later
Ray Martin.
6.25% indigenous.
I’ve got worse numbers in an in-laws family.
The mother of white haired kids claims they’re indigenous and even attributes looks and behaviour to the bloodline.
I crunched the numbers for the purity at 0.4%.
I hope she never runs this past actual indigenous people.
Cornel West’s, RFK Jr’s Very Different Messages on Israel Attacks
Get Ready for a Rollercoaster Ride: Stock Market Crash Looms Large as Economy Faces Tough Times Ahead!
Being generous, one-eighth could be acceptable, but nothing less.
I disagree with this.
But I do think DNA testing should be a component of native title claims.
I’m reminded of a stink out Coonabarabran way where a Redfern fellow plonked himself down as a local elder and got a decent amount of taxpayer cash.
So much so the real indigenous locals ran him out of town.
That was the early 90s.
Bidenomics At Work! Mortgage Rates Hit Almost 8% (Highest Since July 2000 Under Bill Clinton), Deficits This High Usually Occur During Recessions And HIGH Unemployment
Oh my.
I wonder if some of the aboriginal elites are now regretting pushing for the referendum. The wash up may just be a loss of very well paid no-work positions.
Tom Fitton
@TomFitton
The Hamas terrorists have significant support among the American Left, including key members of Congress.
Exhibit A
The Gateway Pundit
@gatewaypundit
Democrat Rep. Rashida Tlaib Breaks Silence on Saturday’s Hamas Mass Murder of 600 Jews – Blames Israel for the Violence, Accuses Israel of Apartheid Policies
“I recognise that there is an almost unanimous view on the subject.
I see things differently to most people, always have.”
What subject?!? Hundreds of innocents were slaughtered on the weekend, the sole excuse being that they have the audacity, the effrontery to exist, and you are tritely spouting Geography.
And learn to spell Israel.
I don’t think there should be any purity tests.
Need not race for welfare/handouts and throw out every single native title claim where there is no evidence of living anything close to a traditional lifestyle for several generations.
Eg in Victoria where Aboriginal people converted to Christianity in the 19th century and (mostly) embraced western lifestyles.
Plas breaks out the “ABC is criticised by both sides” arguement.
Lakemba pro-Palestine rally held with hundreds in attendance to support Hamas attack on Israel
The Prime Minister has condemned celebrations over the unfolding crisis in Israel after hundreds rallied in Sydney’s southwest to show support for Palestine.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese condemned the land, sea, and air assault by Hamas and those who gathered in support of the violence, after celebrations broke out in Sydney’s southwest.
On Sunday night, a Palestinian rally was held to express support for the attacks launched in Israel.
People in their hundreds flocked to Lakemba Station on Sunday night, just a day after at least 700 people were killed in Israel and another 2000 were reportedly injured, according to the country’s media.
Australian onlookers were seen cheering and shouting as a series of speakers preached their praises for the Palestinian attacks, which began on Saturday.
“I’m smiling and I’m happy. I’m elated,” Sheikh Ibrahim Dadoun said to the crowd.
“It’s a day of courage, it’s a day of resistance, it’s a day of pride, it’s a day of victory.
“This is the day we’ve been waiting for.”
The statements were followed by loud cheers from the crowd.
Mr Albanese told Sunrise there was “no victory with the slaughter of innocent people”.
“The capturing of the people and taking them back to Gaza represents an extraordinary action by Hamas. And Israel, of course, has a right to defend itself, and it will.”
Daily Tele – no comments allowed
Jim Ferguson
@JimFergusonUK
Breaking News Israel: US weapons left behind in Afghanistan used to attack Israel.
A high-ranking Israel Defense Forces (IDF) commander said US weapons left in Afghanistan by the Biden administration were found in the hands of Palestinian groups active in the Gaza Strip.
The chaos that erupted after the #US scramble to evacuate Afghanistan as ordered by #Biden and the significant amount of weapons and equipment left behind there has now been used to attack Israel a close ally of the #USA
#Biden is incapable of leadership and a total embarrassment on the world stage.
Israel Releases Names and Photos of the Dozens of Beautiful Young Women Who Are Missing Following Saturday’s Hamas Attack
You could imagine the difference between a Trump & Biden (or one of his handlers) call with Israel.
Trump would be “go nuts” for the next two weeks or similar.
Who knows what team Biden would be saying.
From what I understand it is the US that buys new defence technology from Israel (and probably sells it on to China).
A bit on Mossad going political and taking their eyes off the ball.
Yes, intelligence agencies work against their own governments (11 Apr, via Instapundit today)
It’s quite amusing to watch everyone trying to dogpile me for ‘not having the correct opinion’ on a site that supposedly prides itself on discussion of topics and difference of opinion and viewpoint.
It’s no different to how the left treats the right…
I guess this place is just another internet echo chamber.
Election Wizard
@ElectionWiz
JUST IN: Initial reports state upwards of 200 bodies were recovered at the site of the music festival that was attacked by Hamas.
Can you imagine what would’ve happened if someone in Australia said that about Anders Breivik the day after he massacred those kids? Massacring kids is exactly what the Hamas gtuys did. The Israelis so far have picked up 260 bodies from those massacred at the music festival.
This behaviour is very revealing, that’s for sure.
Iran helped plan Hamas attack on Israel that killed at least 700 and gave the green light for the assault at a meeting in Beirut last Monday: Islamic Revolutionary Guards devised land, air and sea assault that has left Middle East on brink of all-out war
Daily Mail
When can we celebrate the bombing of the Lakemba Mosque on a Friday. What a shame, too bad. Its not as if they are innocent is it? These people are barbarians. Is the celebration of innocent Jewish life hate speech, if so, where are the luvvies condemning it. Crickets, I hear crickets.
If pure white people want to call themselves aboriginals for vanity reasons, they can fill their boots. But if they want to suck on the taxpayer teat in any way whatsoever on that basis, there must be a test. What level do you think is acceptable to be on the gravy train? A sixteenth? A 256th? What?
I think that 1/8 is generous, 1/4 would be quite reasonable.
“Everyone”, Plas? Expect disagreement when a subject is both emotional and personal.
The same happened over “vaccines”.
Strong views, strongly expressed. At least no one is comparing you to a farmyard animal.
Fury as Palestinian protester waves a SWASTIKA at anti-Israel rally in New York City’s Times Square as thousands of demonstrators take to the streets across the US – while rockets and gunfire flies in the Middle East
Everyone is out of step except plasma?
Like it or lump it, history is pretty clearly in support of this position – if you conquer another nation, you *must* eliminate the losers, or they will cause ever increasing problems a century or 2 later.
Evidence:
Australian Aborigines, American Indians, Canadian Inuit, NZ Maori etc etc etc
The corollary from history is also: once you have done that, you should refrain from re-importing a replacement victim grievance group – eg Pakis to the UK, Africans to the US, Somalis to Melbourne…
ABC now saying one thousand dead on both sides and then plays an interview of a Palestinian in Gaza who claims a relative was killed in an Israeli air strike.
Shut this shit show down!
Funny how the sneerer, when he/she gets rebutted, then plays the victim and insists he/she is being ‘dogpiled’.
This from someone who has seen the footage, seen the bodies.
This person is a sociopath and extremely dangerous.
Malaysia stands in solidarity with the people of Palestine, says Anwar
Rep. Ilhan Omar demands ‘protection from the international community’ for Palestinians following Hamas attack on Israel
Dunno if its been said here, but Israel’s solution should be to push the entire Gaza population into the sea – well, at least to the Gaza ports.
Let other Muslim countries take them, then claim all that land as Israel’s.
The international community will bitch and whine, but the Gazans have been given multiple opportunities for peace. They continue to choose war.
Even for those Gazans who don’t want war – it’d be a better solution than what they have now.
Plasmamortar – That certainly isn’t the case with Ukraine unpleasantness. Quite robust debate from several different angles.
On the other hand the general distaste for the Left is very solid by comparison, apart from occasional visits from certain fantasy footy guy.
So yes at times opinions line up and at other times they don’t. We all have opinions like we all have a certain bit of anatomy.
Joe Biden Approved the Release of $75 Million Dollar to Palestinian Jihadis Just Hours Before Attack on Israel
Edward Luttwak on Israel’s Intelligence Failure
On what basis? Anyone other than a 100% fullblood would*not*exist had the evil British never landed – none of them.
And, let’s not forget that the Paleo flag is a “lift” from the Jordanian one.
Let us also not forget the words of Zuheir Mohsen, – top PLO member responsible for Damur massacre:
“The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.”This fact was admitted by Professor Philip Hitti, an Arab historian who declared, “There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not.” This fact is further confirmed by the Saudi Arabia Representative at the United Nations. “It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria.”
Or Fathi Hammad, who said live on TV:
“…half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis”
How about Hafez Assad, Father of the Syrian “incumbent, who said to the PLO:
“You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria.”
Then there’s Zuhair Muhsin, Executive Council, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO:
“There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity… yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel.”
And finally, a few words from retired terrorist, Walid Shoebat:
“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?” We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians – they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”. When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.
And another thing:
The Romans called what used to be Judea, “Palaestina” as a rather nasty joke.
After the siege of Masada. Emperor Hadrian decided to erase the name of Judeah forever, so being literate and having a suitably grim, Roman sense of humour, he ordered the area to be renamed after earlier inhabitants of the region; a large band of notorious pirates. These were the “Peleshet”, a name which variously and loosely translates to “invaders” or “raiders”. They had long since ceased operating in the region, but their memory lingered across the eastern Mediterranean.
And, just for giggles, Yasser Arafat, PLO bigshot and “interesting” person, was an Egyptian .
I just find it hilarious.
I don’t see myself as a victim, that would require me to value what other people think of me.
Everything they touch …
“We will pursue the youth vote”
Oh.
“We will push to shore up traditional Labor voters”
The only demographic left to be destroyed by Luigi the Unbelievable is 19-20 year old transgender Greens.
Andrew Bolt:
No compromise. Destroy them.
Fully agree, this is the corollary of my comment about not using claims of aboriginality to “suck on the taxpayer teat in any way whatsoever on that basis”.
Need, not greed.
That is a fair point.
I suppose most leftist forums have normally dropped the ban hammer on me by this time in the past.
American man, 23, sends chilling message before going missing from Israeli rave
OK Interesting https://www.jpost.com which seemed to be down yesterday is back up again
Quite so.
The only problem is, it will require someone from the SFLs to pursue and prosecute that case.
The only one I see with the courage to do it is Jacinta Price.
Unfortunately I fear she while be drowned out by lots of Photiotypes calling for “healing hands of friendship” and “moving on”.
Hamas at work – Picture of Festival Attendees – Not what you would call Armed Soldiers – Is this all Hamas is capable of fighting?
“You have no enemies, you say? Alas, my friend, the boast is poor. He who has mingled in the fray of duty that the brave endure, must have made foes.
If you have none, small is the work that you have done.
You’ve hit no traitor on the hip. You’ve dashed no cup from perjured lip. You’ve never turned the wrong to right. You’ve been a coward in the fight.”
Charles Mackay
Israel haters speak of the Gaza occupation – hasn’t it been effectively self governing (by the PA, then Hamas) since the Oslo accords in ’83 ?
Well, we had a Brievik fan-bois here for a while, and he wasn’t met with universal condemnation.
(You know who you are).
Speaking of “greenpiece”:
Does anyone else recall the constant greenpiece “protests against the Japanese whalers?
Supplementary: Does anybody remember the greenpiece harassment the fleets of soviet ships hauling tonnes of Krill” (tiny shrimp) out of those same waters? If you can, seek professional help.
Krill; the primary diet of many whale species.
“Situational Ethics” writ large, as usual.
Yeah they were cyberattacked.
https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1710898092055068889
I think that 1/8 is generous, 1/4 would be quite reasonable.
Nope, bugger it. The state should not give any benefits to people by race.
Give assistance to people in genuine need – not those who choose to live on the dole, or who make incredibly bad decisions and then expect no consequences.
The entire aboriginal industry should be closed down.
For that matter too should be the whole concept of “living on country”. Those concepts were encouraged because somehow it was thought to be beneficial to continue to exist in some 50/50 concept of living the life of the noble savage while enjoying benefits from the while man of education, health, policing, and endless handouts. It hasn’t worked, and it will never work.
Close it down. Move to the cities. Become a normal Aussie.
Lakemba Mosque “blindsided” by Albanese’s support for Israel’s right to defend itself.
“He was just here on Friday.”
A question that goes begging immediately you have multiple classes of citizens.
True, and Iran has been getting a lot of bucks from the US tax payer, courtesy of the Sniffer’s administration. Billions of bucks handed to them, only weeks ago. No wonder Iran feels empowered.
Iran did not get one cent of US tax payers money. They got Iranian money which was frozen in South Korean banks through US sanctions released to a Qatar bank. The money was owed to Iran for the sale of condensate some time ago but withheld because of the US sanctions.
Didn’t Israel withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005? They left behind an established industry growing fruit and vegetables in greenhouses, employing hundreds of the locals, and contributing millions of dollars to the local economy.
Rioting Palis destroyed the lot.
The most useful section of any Act is often the definitions section where you find out who’s In and who’s Out.
Ben Garrison gets it.
They’re hamas captured by the IDF.
Meanwhile:
The era of talking to these savages is over.
We can largely thank Malcolm Fraser for that.
SFLs.
Good Lord.
How very Grampian.
“I don’t see myself as a victim, that would require me to value what other people think of me.”
Then why use the term “dogpile”? Could it be that you’re contradicting yourself?
Re; what Israel should do. Last night I suggested nuking iran:
Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s surprise attack on Israel and gave the green light for the assault, according to senior members of Hamas and Hezbollah.
And this:
Israel Releases Names and Photos of the Dozens of Beautiful Young Women Who Are Missing Following Saturday’s Hamas Attack
I suggest a 10 kt nuke for each woman.
zerohedge
@zerohedge
Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks: WSJ
here we go
Geez, if the promos are accurate, 4 Corners’ Woodside program tonight looks like an absolute undergraduate stinker. Producers should be jailed for facilitating the little trots.
I survived Mao. Hillary Clinton’s call for ‘deprogramming’ of Trump supporters is no joke, it’s alarming
The PM and Yes leaders have made a very big effort to woo Islamic religious leaders to the Yes side. Noel from Noosa was doing this in Qld over a month ago.
Hopefully people have noticed how the Yes campaign has tried to garner support and will vote No even more.
I use the term dogpile because it aptly describes what is happening.
I still find it amusing though, as it was born out my of lack solidarity with the prevailing opinion.
But people’s emotions are running high, I understand, so analysis of anything else goes out the windows.
Iron Dome at work.
Elon is asking for calm. One of the obvious theories about why iran did this:
Iran had to do something. The Abraham accords were slowly emasculating their power in the Middle East. They want to be the hegemonic power not KSA. Everybody assumes Iran wants nukes to threatened Israel. That’s laughable. The IDF has 300 nukes most on par with our own ICBM and SLBM warheads
There’s probably some truth to this but you can over analyze. The facts are basic: iran wants Israel dead. Some other ME states due to the work of Trump have accepted Israel. Will Israel olbliterating iran jeopardise Trump’s progress. Bearing in mind that up until now biden and his swamp were empowering iran.
If only the Normans had wiped out the Anglo-Saxons, eh?
And yet American Jews predominantly support Biden’s Democrats.
“Assimilation” was Government policy until that pair of clowns, Whitlam and Coombes, came along.
“When can we celebrate the bombing of the Lakemba Mosque on a Friday. What a shame, too bad. Its not as if they are innocent is it? These people are barbarians. Is the celebration of innocent Jewish life hate speech, if so, where are the luvvies condemning it. Crickets, I hear crickets.”
Yep. Yesterday on Outsiders Rowan Dean gave an editorial in which he skewered the the rampant hypocrisy and Jew hatred of the left. Apart from the Gazans, the Iranians and so on, there are also people closer to home, even in our Labor and Greens parties, who must bear responsibility for this invasion and massacre, and that is western progressives. These progressives, with their putrid moral equivalence, have spent decades feeding the crocodile that is “Palestine”, “Islamism”, “BDS” and so on.
Enough.
“And yet American Jews predominantly support Biden’s Democrats.”
Yes, secular assimilated American Jews but not religious Jews, and they’re the only Jewish demographic that is growing.
“I use the term dogpile because it aptly describes what is happening.”
You use the term “dogpile” because you don’t like being rebutted.
No doubt the Lakemba terrorists actually gathered around the Lakemba War Memorial.
And Albenese was there a week ago spuiking the close ties between Aboriginal Australians and muslims.
Brilliant.
Ok, so does your omniscience have a better recommendation?
Daily Telegraph. Some of the comments are almost pathetic in their naivety – if the Israelis hadn’t invaded Palestinian lands, this would never have happened.
That’s a pretty disgusting suggestion that Western civilianization mores should be abandoned in favour of islamic barbarism.
The problems with Aborigines is, in comparison to some intercine strife, on the small side.
Penny Wong tut tutting the terrorist sympathisers at Lakemba.
Eyes on the prize as always.
If you don’t like being disagreed with, complain about a pile on
American liberals have turned on secular Jews.
I’m not sure it was all about keeping the Israelis down so they could not fight back and form an independent state like the Hasmoneans did.
Ironically despite their more inland origins, the Phonecians (old Canaanites from the north) became seafaring ancestors of Carthage and the more coastal Philistines became homebodies. There are some Jewish scholars who believe Judaism started in Canaan so the influence of Hebrews on world history is huge even in the ancient world, ignoring the biblical implications…
[I just find this very interesting, like the extent to the Romans explored the open ocean or how early the Mediterranean were talking to and trading with the early British and Irish.]
Let’s think about why the Romans would like to retcon a few hundred or thousand years of history they knew about.
Now, of course, the Romans had their own reputation to spit shine and wouldn’t call Acre; “Vetus Carthago”.
As they controlled Greece and largely spoke Greek in the civil service, calling it Syria Palestinian was not offensive to the regime which had God Emperors and acknowledged Greek roots of Italy and Rome. They liked to think of Rome as a second, more moral and tougher Athens with the same level of scholarship and mythical roots. Greece was taken over by acting as an arbiter between the Greek states, Carthage was a real threat to the survival of Rome as an early Empire, confederation and the City itself.
Another thing to remember is that Greece is sometimes considered part of the levant, the last three dynasties of the Israeli monarchy (Maccabees to Herod Agrippa’s death) were Greek speakers and so were educated Hellenistic Israelites – possibly like St Luke the Evangelist.
Rome had it’s own PR issues, not just a small Koine Greek speaking rebel Kingdom to suppress.
You’re right, it’s mostly women in the dogpile, it’s not like they can do much damage.
Then why sook in the first place oh original and unique thinker?
So yes at times opinions line up and at other times they don’t. We all have opinions like we all have a certain bit of anatomy.
You only have to look at the media reaction to this mid-east disgrace .. ALL the popular internet Oz media outlets have shutdown comments on 95% of their reports coming from Israel/Gaza … they’ve had no trouble skewering the comments on the Voice to favour the YES vote but aren’t so keen to risk public opinion on Israel/Hamas
“I still find it amusing though, as it was born out my of lack solidarity with the prevailing opinion”
So, the prevailing opinion here is one of outrage at what has happened in Israel, where elderly Jewish men and women, young Jewish men and women, Jewish children, Jewish and Druze IDF soldiers sleeping in their bunks, have been murdered, the naked bodies of young Jewish women mutilated and their corpses paraded through the streets of Gaza, to cheers from the local Gazans. I think most here are outraged. But not you. Interesting. And when rebutted, you sneer ‘dogpiling’.
“You’re right, it’s mostly women in the dogpile, it’s not like they can do much damage.”
Sneering misogyny.
Nope, bugger it. The state should not give any benefits to people by race.
It’s not just 251s that have/do benefit form CentreLink favouritism but most ethnic imports .. Back in the 1990s/early 2000s Centrelink re-classified 10s 0f 1 000s of country shoppers from the “dole” to the “rorters” .. not because they “suddenly” developed an incapacity to work but to improve the, then, spiralling unemployment figures …
I never made any comment about the attack.
My comments were in regard to how it may play out afterwards.
As I said, Israel can go and nuke everyone for all I care.
What happens then?
And what happens once the West can no longer bankroll the military support for their continued existence due to our own internal problems?
Yes women are weaker than men, hence they can’t do as much damage…
I’m not sure what part of that reality is misogyny.
It is simply reality.
If there’s only subjective morality then Israel is free to conquer militarily less powerful states that threaten its existence, without any justification at all.
Even that came off wrong – to wit they don’t even need to frame it in terms of self defence.
“Yes women are weaker than men, hence they can’t do as much damage…”
Hey sneerer, tell Bruce Lehrmann that.
They are absolutely free to do that, if they desired to conquer more territory for more resources.
There may be consequences for doing so though, but they can certainly do that if they wish.
That’s called weaponisation of a feminist controlled court and legal system.
No individual is stronger than a government.
In single combat, he’ll even 3 women vs the average guy, the guy will come out on top.
Plasmamortar trying to play the role of the considered, detached intellectual.
But just a dumb c-nt, really.
Care to repeat that in English?