“Keane also mentioned that Hegseth had extensive combat experience.” Deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. He has two Bronze Stars.
‘Voice’ referendum thread
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Like the Israelis, they are a Semitic people and entitled to control their ancestral land.” Crete?
Numbers Bob comment over at Michael Smith. The article about Penny Mong voting for Pally Statehood. Is he an early…
Similar to having a road network that doesn’t connect two towns A & B 200 km apart – meaning you…
Is that out of Beau Geste? Enemy at the Gates in this case. Best part of the whole movie with…
How is Wong even a front bencher? Just listening to her on Sky, certainly not polished with speech. Full of ah’s, really this is our rep on the world stage?
Liberals need to go after her more and Gallagher more. Why they haven’t is beyond me.
Laura Jayes is reporting that the tenured indigenous are set to officially spit the dummy and throw the toys out of the cot.
It just keeps getting better.
It will definitely be 6 – 0 with two million pre poll votes.
Should have run a book on who has the biggest meltdown
This thread is flying.
Take that straight to the Tree of Knowledge in Liar mythology.
Warren now saying that this is a bunch of people who put forward a proposal and they can’t accept that in a democracy it was a no.
Warren calling for an audit of aboriginal expenditure.
Marcia blaming a Trumpian/Steve Bannon mindset for this idea of an audit.
Several NSW towns with large indigenous populations voted No.
Carpe Jugulum
Oct 14, 2023 8:03 PM
free live stream
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/voice-to-parliament/live-channel-sky-news-the-voice-debate/news-story/687d640a30e3b2f21bfc31a90fee88ea
Marles: it’s very difficult to win a referendum, and it’s Tony Abbott and John Howard’s fault. We knew it’s hard to get referendums up. It’s difficult where there’s uncertainty, but we followed through on our promises! Our focus is on Closing the Gap!
(I have to stop, bingo card melted.)
‘A day of mourning’, apparently, from the sinecured eastern fauxborigines.
Mourning the loss of further unelected power, no doubt.
Many thanks for the link.
Time for a Bex and a good lie down, Marcia.
Elbow will need this map to plot his vengeance against the Torries…
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/how-has-your-area-voted-in-the-voice-referendum/5kztxe91m
Who gets bragging rights as the most no electorate
Still blaming Howard? Sad. Low energy.
Qantas? CBA? Any comment?
Right side of history mein arsch
Qld called? Time for the Bundy.
In my electorate NO is at 65%. Aspirationals obviously didn’t like the possibility of being divided by race and having some unelected panel deciding what happens to them and their property.
NT running at 68.56% NO.
Flinders just squeaking in for no
Abbott very succinct, making a lot of sense, offering an olive branch* to any aborigines peeved about the result.
____
* apologies for using the oppressive analogies of the colonisers.
I’d be getting on the woobla.
Ballot box counts say otherwise, Mr. Wong is wrong.
The Northern Territory is close to 70% NO. The highest of all.
I think a lot of the anger evident in the Uluru Statement (Hi, Noel!) was in reaction to Howard’s intervention.
Carpe-san: Flinders NO 50.31 with 27% counted so far.
Who is this woman on the ABC who looks like she rode through a dozen hedges on a motorbike to get to the studio and there wasn’t time to fix her hair?
Her position is basically Aboriginals who voted no are gullible morons who will believe literally anything they’re told. ‘I spoke to people who told me they’d been told their arms would drop off if they voted yes’
Elbow has a chance here.
He can, for once, speak with grace and dignity in defeat, or he can do what all the others have done and blame everyone else.
Using the Labor mantra – it’s someone else’s fault.
LOL first meltdown already.
Commie scumbag Parkin blames misinformation. LOL suck the poison brother.
And now the humbugging commences….
Some of us are immune. Oddly enough, most of us.
Now bugger off.
Dean Parkin blaming misinformation.
GFY dickhead!
You had all the money, all the resources, all the elites. FOFF!
ABC aboriginal lady: misinformation and disinformation! Deception on the ground. Australians were deceived! There was a swirl of activity out there!!
We’ve been fighting off misinformation and disinformation!
Antony jumps in with some early NT numbers…68% No. Lots of cope…
Lingiari electorate in NT has no at 69%.
The NT has gone massively NO. Another jurisdiction with large Indig population doing that.
80% was always BS
So Jacinta was representative of NT indigenous sentiment after all.
Kenny actually used the word as in
. what a dog!!
No olive branches.
Grind them into the dust.
Saddam we want? No welcome to country!! When do we want it? Now!!
Yeah baby!
However, this will be because the people here have seen – first hand – that the $40 billion per year does not go to those who need it.
I’m watching on the live feed the Colonel gave me, the meltdown is epic from Steve Parkin, (whoever that is).
I should go and get some Colonel Chicken to watch this.
Can’t wait for the teal seats to hold asap a vaping ceremony to mourn the decision.
Senator Malins.. Malindiry… er… Senator McCarthy saying dumb blackfellas in the NT were told they were told they were voting on having their benefits cut off, & stuff like that.
Yeah, that explains the nationwide unlubed dildoing the entire nation just administered to the Yes proponents.
Howard even gets a few Lieborals worked up.
Warren Mundine is right.
Forget about the Voice which was only going to be lawfare and vengeance.
You know what the problems are, you can listen, now wave your magic wands.
Does Chris Kenny at least have a garden?
Who the hell are these two blokes?? Where did they pull them from? Lol the ABC’s coverage is so random
Carpe:
Per The Guardian:
Flinders: VIC 49.7% Yes, 50.3% No, 27.8% counted
A) Tear stained cheeks.
B) Tiny fists of rage.
C) Wipes his nose on his sleeve.
This refo can be a weapon for good if used well. Certainly a lot of people in the Indig Industry ought to be quiet and listen to the message as delivered
Thank you for that, i’m curious to see the divide between the Port Phillip Side Vs the Westernport Side.
Mea Culpa – we lived at Flinders so it was 50-50 left & right.
“Sorry Cassie but Wentworth currently 66% Yes and other Teal seats Yes.”
Yes I know, unsurprising.
Guardian still hopeful for a Victorian yes.
Would love a Googlebox of Albo’s office right now.
NO vote leading in Lingiari.
Much like the Wildebeest sensing danger on the African savannah, the locals sensed the Marxist pincer movement and resoundingly voted NO!
They said it’s our one chance in a generation. So go away until our grandchildren can vote no again.
Many Thanks Nelson
You were the Yes campaign director.
If (for argument’s sake) there was misinformation, why didn’t you counter it?
It’s not as if you lacked the resources to do so.
Resignation…..
Our next LINO guest is….Julian Lesser.
Waiting for his resignation…any day now.
Perhaps NT voters might know a bit more about Aboriginal issues than the rest of the country.
Sweet…..so sweet, how sweet it is.
The entire claim that 80% of indigines approved of the voice pretty implicitly stated that the non-indigenous should not get in the way. Morally should be ignored.
Screw ‘em.
And all the Chris Kennies they rode into town on.
The Ghosts of Waffleworths Past.
Who will be the first to call this “Australia’s day of shame” or “We are an embarrassment in the international community”, or words to that effect
Great questions to Lesser. Why did you blow up ur ministerial career?
LOL
Elitist scum. Reckons educated wealthy voters have the time to inform themselves, that’s why all of the eastern suburbs voted yes.
Um no they can afford to hold luxury beliefs, they aren’t more informed.
The daughter has had her first go at making mini quiches. Light on the egg and heavy on the bacon. Delicious!
Well matched to a good malty beer.
I’m in heaven.
Julian lessor chewing on turds; but defended by the Nats leader as an honest soul with a big future. FMD
Most of the Teal seats in Sydney went Yes. Similar result in Melbourne with Higgins (Labor), Goldstein and Kooyong (Teal) went Yes. This isn’t a good portend to the next election I think.
Hey. Hedge hair woman. Get the pigeons out of your hair do and account for your government’s failure to get their referendum over the line, rather than crapping on about Peter Dutton.
Any room to talk about his tough upbringing as a bastard house?
All Senator Big Hair is left with is talking about Dutton and a 2nd referendum.
Note how ABC hosts have not asked her about high NT No vote.
Gez,
Real Australia has spoken, not the Teal electorates, not the Green electorates, not the inner city Labor electorates…….
REAL AUSTRALIA HAS SPOKEN.
I have long said, even here on this blog, that Australia would be saved by….
1. Older Australians (over 55 years old).
2. Rural Australians.
3. Working class and middle class Australians.
4. New Australians.
Kol hakavod to Australians.
Notice how the only seats voting Yes would be immune to the consequences because they are wealthy.
From the Sky live link, the NZ ALP is getting belted in their election down to 15 seats
That was on Monday night at the Opera House.
This is something to be proud of.
I’ve counted 36 electorates with over 50% yes votes (obviously not counting WA). Melbourne is leading with 79.6%, Canberra is at 75% and Sydney is at 71%, closing followed by Macnamara in Vic with 70.8%.
Enjoying the NZ correspondence. Every time they say electrit I laugh and have a drink.
Netional.
Great night entertainment so far.
Did we see massive racism against Aboriginals due to this referendum? Where’s the evidence of this? I call bullshit on this claim.
plus
D) Tiny feet stamp many times
E) Calls for Nurse Wong to take away the PAIN
He does have a family with whom he can spend more time.
Our Voice has spoken and now the politicians must listen. Keep all the Labor lawyers far away from the investigations that must happen. We demand answers. Why are aborigines still living in poverty? Where have the billions each year gone? The frauds must be jailed!
Damn straight brother, we eat egg and bacon pie……..with a beer……………for breakfast.
Ball squarely in Dutton”s court.
If he is weak, he loses. If he holds their feet to the fire, he can win.
This isn’t a good portend to the next election I think.”
Not at all JC, this is a different issue to federal elections.
I don’t think Spender will win again in 2025.
The WA vote is will be like shotgunning watermelons.
A slice of honey cake is strongly recommended.
Chin up.
Alamak!
Oct 14, 2023 8:29 PM
F) Assumes the foetal position in the corner
G) Sucks thumb and whimpers like an abused puppy
Bulltish.
I would wager none of them have met over friands and macchiatos in an air conditioned CBD cafe to discuss the core realities.
They will be biased by decades of experience – hardly fashionable.
No, but the next election won’t be won or lost in those seats.
It’ll be contested in middle Australia over cost of living.
Heh, 72% of Victorian postal votes are No.
Quite surprising for Victoriastan, but less surprising given demographics of postal voters everywhere and the expected confrontational nastiness of Yes footsoldiers.
I’m still picking Feraldton in WA as nearly topping the no vote by electorate.
ABC is going to yet another panel! Ends with “what should Peter Dutton say next”.
Lol they’re so desperately trying to make Dutton carry the can for the failure of their crappy referendum. Have they not seen the overwhelming popularity of the No position? They’ll turn him into a national hero if they keep this up and the No vote keeps ticking up as the count progresses.
Inner cities/teals/filth consistent yes. What is about cities which produces leftie wankers out of touch with reality while focused on their ego driven virtuous issues. I really hope for some reality for these bastards. Go turtle with blackouts.
I can’t convey my happiness. As I speak the IDF are massing on the GAZA border.
I needed this referendum result.
Shame on Sleazy, this was a total wankfest.
Sleazy should resign.
The whole “Teal” putsch has brought something to front of mind for the rest ofAustralia.
Out. Of. Touch.
ABC takes time out to do some luvvin’ of Palis.
Rabz them.
. Only until the claims on their lands start, I would love it so much if someone made a native title claim on Peter Fitzsimmons and the Frog-mouthed Amphibian’s place, and Malturd’s place at Point Piper and Double Bay Jesus’ place Fairwater. — I can dream can’t I?
I’m quiche curious.
NITV now talking about the misinformation and disinformation.
The host now saying that “fear has won”.
More delusion.
They’re sad that they’re on the wrong side of history.
Ha ha, that might have been me this morning. Still trying to get a higher public profile to help with the monetisation which is going slower than I would like.
Re those teal seats – maybe they’ll return to the SFLs. Maybe not. But the Libs must now know that they can’t be relied on. If they win them back, then, fine. But those seats are no longer the main game.
It’s Egg & Bacon Pie for the surrender monkeys
Carpe>. A real man would get on the beers and go full Sir-Les …
Albo will:
H) Blame Dutton
I) Blame Rupert
J) Blame ANYONE
K) Not mention the actual LEADERS like Mundine, Price
L) Not be Graceful or Conciliatory becos “Fighting Tories”
And Rabz the ABC, too.
Antony is on. NT looks 64% No everywhere. Ouch.
Then he goes to Teal seats in Sydney. Giggle.
“Western Sydney is a very solid vote for no” says Antony.
Cass, Roger,
I think it shows where their head is at. Still.
Looking at the Sky feed online, Chris Kenny is either going to burst into tears or throw himself on the floor.
Flinders No 50.3% Yes 49.7% closest electorate listed
Misinformation and disinformation? Well, the Yes people decided to go with No Information. Not a bad strategy if you lose – when people fill in the blanks you deliberately left and give you a thumbs down, you get to claim their conclusions were informed by misinformation and disinformation.
Richmond (NSW northern rivers) is currently just in the yes camp with one third of votes counted. All those teal retirees moving to Byron Bay combined with the geriatric mullhead Nimbin hippies.
Over to the NZ election Labour has had the shit kicked out of them, maybe 22 seats.
ABC aboriginal lady says everyone has to take a look at themselves!
It’s your fault!
Yes. There has been such an abuse of power and misappropriation of money that the Libs should be able to make a feast of this:
A plan so far removed from mainstream Australia, an ignoring of real people’s concerns, a failed campaign to mislead the people, politics over government – and add in the other issues at the same time such as Israel-Hama-sandwich.
The whole Labor government has been utterly derelict and party political. The Libs should be able to dine out on this for at least a generation.
This is what happens when you let city people buy coastal property.
For my cute little daughter I would eat her quiche, and love it.
And if she calls it quiche, I call it quiche.
Real men treat their daughters right.
. That appears to be his standard demeanour
What? you mean his slurring and slushing will be worse? Shirley not
Now you sound like the Sicilian Prince. Never go full Sicilian.
Noice 2 in a row. NZ Nationals don’t need Winston Peters, another grub. Enjoy obscurity mate. You dug your grave supporting that vacuous bimbo Adern.
My goodness what is the vomit tie person wearing on his (their?) hand and arm? The world’s biggest and ugliest mood ring, and dozens of wooden bead bracelets.
Waiting for WA to drop. Going to be epic.
More cope at the ABC. It was a corporate campaign! Lots of corporates. Cost of living! Indigenous leaders in the No campaign. Division! Vitriol attack! We’re all dying. Eighty thousand zombies for the Yes campaign! (Oops, word was ‘volunteers’ not ‘zombies’, my error.)
The large single malt and the tears of the totally defeated…great way to spend a Saturday night.
Sadly, I live in a bloody stupid electorate who don’t think, only feel. It’s possible the postals may close the gap. So to speak.
“Start with the truth-telling”
Truth-telling = a narrative of lies
Its worth pointing out that the Yessers misappropriated a shitload of money (including the ABC budget) over the last year of manipulation, but the Australian people told them to shove it up their jacksie.
Pay it back, chumps.
Any comments from ‘there’s going to be massive cheating and the fix is in’ mob?
Marles is on the Online skyfeed, he needs a tissue, and when he drinks one of his eyelids droops (left), just saying.
Michael Pachi on 2GB: the ‘Yes’ team are already into their post-mortem and are likely to declare a period of mourning.
If they keep quiet in the process, I can live with that. 🙂
This bloke is actually making sense.
On behalf of the No campaign I would like to thank the Academy and Marcia Langton for her wonderful contribution.
I have. I’ve spent the last hour practising my smug in the mirror. Plan to use it judiciously all week.
OK now he’s losing me.
The fat lady hasn’t sung yet.
Albo will not concede.
Results not due for weeks.
You will lose, and wonder why.
As Douglas Murray said last week, the flare went up and could clearly see where people stood. Chris Kenny, J Lesser, All of the ALP, Turnbull, the Abo Activists, Ray Martin, every National sporting body, Qantas, the banks, Rio Tinto…
10 minutes until Rub&Tug loses his shit.
I’m reminded on Paul Keating after his first tilt in taking on Hawke for the leadership of the Liars – “I had one shot in the locker”.
So goes the USFTH.
This very white, blue eyed Tasmanian Aboriginal bloke has a very solid critique of the Yes campaign.
Much as I am enjoying the cascading ‘No’ voting, I am nevertheless alert to the shame that tomorrow we will be ‘a pariah’ and the shame of the world.
All those j’ismists in London, Paris, Los Angeles, New York, Sydney Uni, etc who represent our better selves…
Perhaps a Voice Vote Warehouse is burning down as we speak …
Something tells me Albo will have time to enact & then watch Succession in full soon.
Yes but I don’t recall the Libs going hard at the waste and graft that is the Indigenous Industry while they were in power. They were happy to spend the Billions also.
LOL Credlin’s body language before to Kenny was telling. Pure contempt if ever I saw it….
Michael Mansell comes on. It was an awful campaign! Emotion!
He’s actually sounds pretty reasonable.
Apparently the No campaign had two black faces that Dutton hid behind.
Downcheck for that Mike.
Oooooo Warren Mundine is in da house
Hey World, look at us! No!!! Now go and get..
My thoughts exactly, Bruce.
If the progs refuse to “listen” and take on board the lessons of this referendum they’re setting themselves up for a world of disappointment and hurt.
Not that I’m complaining about that.
OCO, I backed no at 72%, please pull out all stops!
Ready for a drop off at 3 am.
Teal central – Warringah, 61% No, North Sydney 62% No, Wankworth 64.5% No
Bwahahahahaha!
ABC reporter’s example of the No campaign’s lie – “the idea of dividing on racial division while race is already in the constitution” – wtf you talking about you dopey bint?
Sweet, sweet lamentations.
I am going to be devastated if WA gets more No than Qld.
Sweet, sweet lamentations
Wow she is visibly disgusted after speaking with Mundine. Got a face like a smashed crab anyhow.
Huh? Did the ABC just say the result show that “Australia wants change”?
ABC bird (white as chalk) interviews Warren Mundine, accuses the No campaign was a dirty campaign based on lies. To his face. He handles it well.
Disgusting. Burn. Them, Down.
Antony dives in calls NT more than 60% No. Wow.
More cope. Warren Mundine gets a serve.
The champlonk has been going down nicely.
I’m greatly cheered that against all the corporates and the celebs and sporting codes, against all the guilting and abuse, a handsome majority of my fellow Aussies show common sense beats propaganda. They stopped and thought and concluded that it was a slimy con that would do bugger all for the aborigines in the bush and was all about another trough for the grifters. Good on you Aussies.
The No campaign was extremely confusing? These people live in a fantasy land.
Look, I couldn’t be happier. I hope these people remain our opponents. We will smash them time after time and they’ll never understand why.
After running 14,000 kilometres in support of the ‘yes’ vote Pat Farmer must be feeling like a right berk.
And if Elbow concedes this evening?
Berka already mentioned that Victorian postal votes are running 72% no.
So so much for they’re going to steal all the postal votes.
In Abbott’s Commission of Audit, he only found $30bn pa of waste.
It was a damp squib and we expected a powder keg.
Alboooooooooo
Thumbs up for no!
The referendum was not won or lost in those seats either.
His face said it all before he spoke.
Sorry Rosie. I can’t keep it up. I concede.
she is referring to the race powers post the 1967 referendum. I suspect most people back then thought they were voting for unity, and if the referendum today had been about the race powers’ removal, it would have been at least 95% in favour.
Anal trying to switch to “statesman” mode. 🙂
So the Yes spokespeople have declared a full week of mourning and the aboriginal flag to be at half mast.
Shirley you are joking.
Dutton should change his referendum for the removal of any mention of race in the Consitution, such as the race powers.
This is the nest bit. Albo banging the nails into his own coffin.
Will rub & Tug cry? that is the burning question.
Come on Albo give us a tear.
The answer is money. They are comfortably off and no matter what life is like for the rest of the country the people in those electorates have enough to withstand any misfortunes.
You wanna know why I’m so happy, because for months now I have been accosted by well-heeled, scummy Wentworth women wearing teal coloured t-shirts saying “Wentworth votes yes:…..well yes, they got that right, Wentworth did vote yes, except the real Australia did not vote yes, they voted NO. And what matters is the real Australia, not Wentworth, not North Sydney, not Mackellar, not Goldstein, not Kooyong, not Warringah, not Curtin, not Grayndler, not Sydney and so on. These electorates are NOT the real Australia.
Amen.
No, a small group of ATSI people asked for this. Not all ATSI people.
He needs a phone box and red undies.
Nope, don’t think that would be enough, now I think about it.
Are you gonna cry?
Perhaps the PM and his Government might now get back to running the country.
Particularly Minister Burney who needs to get on with her job.
And Dutton didn’t come out for No until the polling was unambiguous (and for a while thereafter he was offering Albanese support for legislating the Voice).
The Libs have been followers here, not leaders.
Sleazy’s angry, about to blubber, Sleazy doesn’t like defeat and this is a catastrophic defeat.
Sitting in the vacuousness of a teal electorate, Kooyong, all I can think is no more welcome to country1
This is the thing. Can they make use of this, or will they sink back into the simping apologetic nobodies they have been so much in the last decade?
Albo references “The first time I spoke to you as Prime Minister…”
Uh oh.
Sounds like bookends in time.
Rub and tug looks 30 years older. I don’t think he’s got a root left in him. It’s rub and chafe now.
Australia does want change, just not the change the leftards wanted.
Also does not look well. A solid kick in the guts will do that to you.
Yes Albo you put Abo Activism front and centre …
Instead of cost of living concerns you numpty.
Entropy I know what she was attempting to refer to. She was put on the spot by Mundine to name one of the ‘lies’ she claimed the No campaign had propagated and that was the verbal vomit she managed to cough up.
Can we get the Israelis angry with the ABC please? Sheesh.
Ah, Albo is on…
My Fellow Australians! He sounds pissed. Slurring his words.
Grace and humility! Optimism!
He wants to implement the Uluru Statement. Yep, we know Albo, that’s why we voted no (we read the small print).
Oh noes only 8 out of 44 referendums succeeded.
We have given our all! (Ok now go away.)
He’s ambitious for our country. Optimistic! (His speech writers need a raise.)
He really sounds like he’s been on the turps.
I just find is to divine that in Labor strongholds like the Hunter and in Western Sydney, the NO vote is massive.
Oh, soooooooooooo sweet.
And now I wanna see the WA result.
Huh – one vote one value eh? After a referendum which sought to give extra votes to “aboriginals”, true and self-appointed. Apparently now I’m Australian, not a dinosaur dickhead. How I hate speeches being read out at me.
I don’t think he is used to having an initiative rejected, probably a lack of real world experience.
Everything except read pages 2 ff. Why would he?
Luigi getting bitter.
Marles was on the p15S
Trying to speak through gritted teeth and a cats bum mouth.