‘Voice’ referendum thread


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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 10:03 pm

Antony pops in. WA 60:40 no.

Nationally 59:41. Only ACT voted yes (unintentional hilarity).

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 10:03 pm

WA called as no by a deflated Mr Green.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:03 pm

How sweet it is.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2023 10:03 pm

Uncle Disinformation’s on now. Next up, Aunty Misinformation.

Losers.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 10:04 pm

Buona notte gatti e gattina – enjoy the rest of the evening. Today was a beautiful day, The Everest was run, the referendum was defeated by the good and great people of Australia and the Ineptocrat-in-Chief and his sidekicks have been righteously rogered by the red hot poker of NO by a savvy, suspicious electorate. And the cancerous filth in New Zealand has been surgically excised. Great day all ’round

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:04 pm

Once again Credlin versus Kenny with Chrisie boy being a jerk. He hates being put right.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2023 10:04 pm

What the opposition leader is now going to do? He’s the opposition leader, you daft old fart!

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:05 pm

I have to say, I’ve been impressed by Littleproud.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 14, 2023 10:05 pm

We are strong, resilient & deadly.
At least they’re not Grampian nasties.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 10:06 pm

I like Dutton. He’s a nice guy who just made an excellent speech.

Davey Boy
October 14, 2023 10:06 pm

Credlin slaying Kenny on Sky.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:06 pm

I think Chris Kenny should reconsider saying anything any more on that Sky panel. Peta Credlin had to ask him yet again to be quiet.

Megan
Megan
October 14, 2023 10:06 pm

Carpe Jugulum signing off really does give vibes of a Q&A thread of old!

3

I miss those Monday nights.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
October 14, 2023 10:06 pm

Julian Leeser should resign from parliament tomorrow

Dragnet
Dragnet
October 14, 2023 10:07 pm

The effwittery has commenced on my FB feed.
I can’t believe how delusional so many white middle class people can be !

cohenite
October 14, 2023 10:07 pm

Okay, let’s not over-egg the quiche.

She’s not a quiche she is the full menu of caviar, truffles, hot stone cooked Kobe sirloin, chips dipped in Dom Pérignon Champagne, triple-cooked in pure goose fat and coated with gold flecks followed by Italian cassata made with Bailey’s Irish cream liquor and lashings of King Island triple cream.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:08 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 14, 2023 10:03 PM
Antony pops in. WA 60:40 no.

Nationally 59:41. Only ACT voted yes (unintentional hilarity).

Music to my ears!

Clean sweep of the states, territories do not matter in this context therefore the ACT is inconsequential.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2023 10:09 pm

Total losers. The thing about being the opposition is that they don’t run things. You don’t look to them to make the next move.

Crikey. Blokes like this probably wanted to be on the Voice. We dodged a bullet.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:09 pm

I want the Conservatives to win in Poland tomorrow.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 10:09 pm

Whadjuk Noongar elder Aunty Robyn Collard delivered an impassioned Welcome to Country where she told the crowd she had lived the first 10 years of her life as a subject of the Flora and Fauna Act.

“I’m sorry to say but my heart is feeling very sad at this result,” she said.

“Tonight I need to go home and tell my 11 grandchildren that I live with about this result because Australia as a nation has revealed itself to the rest of the world.”

Same old bullsh!t.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 14, 2023 10:09 pm

Albo
“I promised to piss your money up against the wall and I kept that that promise. I aimed high but ended up pissing on my own shoes and I now ask you to walk a mile in those shoes.”

Muddy
Muddy
October 14, 2023 10:11 pm

Now to wait for the anonymously-sourced claims of rampant racist comments to indigs by the average Jill and Joe Public, in the Filth-Filter that is our media.

I’ll ride with you?

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:12 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 14, 2023 10:05 PM
I have to say, I’ve been impressed by Littleproud.

Me too. I had such a poor opinion of him when he first ascended to the Nationals leadership but he has done much better than Barnaby Joyce since then.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 14, 2023 10:12 pm

I’ve hit my annual limit for ABC stuff. No more! ‘Night Cats.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 10:13 pm

Is this true? I’m just listening to Price speaking. Also an excellent speech. Wow!

She said there are aboriginal kids that don’t speak English. Is that true? FMD

Spinning Mouse
Spinning Mouse
October 14, 2023 10:13 pm

Queensland winning on 67 no. I thought 60 no some weeks ago, but very happy with the extra votes.

Voting age daughter was always a no, but had a bunch of mates join her, to her surprise.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 14, 2023 10:15 pm

I want the Conservatives to win in Poland tomorrow.

. praying for that too Cassie

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2023 10:16 pm

WA is not as No as I’d like to see. Hopefully the western suburbs (think eastern suburbs, easterners) and inner city seats are reporting early. We can’t have SA beating us!

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2023 10:17 pm

One of the most bizarre claims from the Yes people is that the Voice would have solved rheumatoid heart disease in remote communities. This ivory tower Aboriginal academic just pushed this strange assertion again.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 14, 2023 10:18 pm

Sydney academic going on about colonisation.

Megan
Megan
October 14, 2023 10:18 pm

The single malt has done its work and I’m signing off. It’s been a great day. Thanks for your company, fellow Cats.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 10:19 pm

Apologies to the mentals..

https://youtu.be/VVnLJQIJw2Y?si=im9P6qYvJk8yuHE1

Started out, just thinking’ queer
I didn’t know how or why or what I was doin’ there
Just a couple of elections,made me feel a little better
Believe me when I tell you, it was nothin’ to do with the leader
Ran right out of ideas, I took a look into my own farter
No Tones, nothin’, I’d better go and get something harder
Back in a flash, I started on a dash of Referendum
Me and Pat Malone, thinkin’ on our own
Whoa-oh, the Trots are gettin’ bitter
Whoa-yeah, the Trots are gettin’ bitter
Whoa-oh, the Trots are gettin’ bittrer
Yeah, mm, they’re gettin’ bitter
Sometimes I wonder what all these leftisms are doin’ to my brain
It doesn’t worry me enough to stop me from doin’ it again
Wiping out brain cells by the million, but I don’t care
It doesn’t worry me even though I ain’t got a lot to spare
Whoa-oh, the Trots are gettin’ bitter
Whoa-yeah, the Trots are gettin’ bitter
Whoa-oh, the Trots are gettin’ bitter
Yeah, mm, they’re gettin’ bitter

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:19 pm

Julian Leeser should resign from parliament tomorrow”

Yep

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:19 pm

Farmer Gez
Oct 14, 2023 10:09 PM
Albo
“I promised to piss your money up against the wall and I kept that that promise. I aimed high but ended up pissing on my own shoes and I now ask you to walk a mile in those shoes.”

You do have the gift. Albo should have hired you as his speech writer.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:19 pm

Even Victoria voted NO.

Oh the schadenfreude.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 14, 2023 10:20 pm

Funny how they could jab Aboriginals for Covid but not for the heart disease that would apparently save them.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:22 pm

Oh come on
Oct 14, 2023 10:16 PM
WA is not as No as I’d like to see. Hopefully the western suburbs (think eastern suburbs, easterners) and inner city seats are reporting early. We can’t have SA beating us!

I suppose it makes sense in a way seeing that Perth population is almost 2 million while the regions are only about 800,000.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2023 10:23 pm

You could sharpen an axe on that ABC woman’s face. Her lips are so pinched they’re about to be sucked into the centre of her head.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:23 pm

Have drunk a lot tonight Cats. Am a bit drunk. It’s been a tough week.

Anders
Anders
October 14, 2023 10:23 pm

Every seat in South Australia is going to be No. Currently only Yes seat is Adelaide which is on 50.09 Yes, but after prepolls I would guess even that will flip to No.

Siltstone
Siltstone
October 14, 2023 10:25 pm

Thank you all Cats who manned pre-poll and polling day booths for the No campaign. It’s a bit of a slog sometimes, but please hear that we applaud you. I took the much easier option of $$$$ donation to the campaign.

Dot
Dot
October 14, 2023 10:25 pm
Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 14, 2023 10:25 pm

She said there are aboriginal kids that don’t speak English. Is that true?

Yes, this is true.

WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
October 14, 2023 10:27 pm

Just passing by Milan.

Great news – just the overall margin to finalise.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 10:27 pm

Whadjuk Noongar elder Aunty Robyn Collard

Collards were one of the families who launched legal action claiming that the State had no authority to remove their nine children, and claiming substantial damages – the action was dismissed entirely, as the court found those children were neglected.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 14, 2023 10:28 pm

It’s all over. Great result. And always up for some top quality ABC salt.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 10:28 pm

Yes, this is true.

Some Aboriginal children, in outback communities in Western Australia have English as a third language.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 10:30 pm

Have drunk a lot tonight Cats. Am a bit drunk. It’s been a tough week.

It’s a privilege you have earned, Cassie. “Sliante!”

Helen
Helen
October 14, 2023 10:30 pm

Well that is that then.
Thank F for that.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:31 pm

It was gracious of Anthony Dillon to defend Chris Kenny against social media attacks, I think this means us, but it was useless.

C.L.
C.L.
October 14, 2023 10:33 pm

She said there are aboriginal kids that don’t speak English. Is that true?

Millions of white kids don’t speak it either.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:33 pm

Jacinta Price is my hero.

damon
damon
October 14, 2023 10:33 pm

“Credlin slaying Kenny on Sky.”

Boy meets girl on who got to the sandpit first.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 10:35 pm

Even though I liked what Price and Dutton said, they’re also clogged up too with the funneling money caper. Even though they’re pushing for an audit, the money funnel won’t stop as it just gets redirected and ends up being corrupted again. These people need to get the hell out of these remote areas and make a living by working – just like all Australians. There has to be an exit from these hellholes.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 10:35 pm

Landslide disaster for Labour Marxist trash.

Crossie
Crossie
October 14, 2023 10:36 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 14, 2023 10:23 PM
Have drunk a lot tonight Cats. Am a bit drunk. It’s been a tough week.

For you much more than the rest of us.

I also have consumed quite a few bubbles and now off to bed.

C.L.
C.L.
October 14, 2023 10:36 pm

Next up, Mr Dutton: net zero. Dump it.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 10:36 pm

Millions of white kids don’t speak it either.

Explain, CL.

You mean proficiency?

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 14, 2023 10:38 pm

The “Yes Vote” was doomed from the start amongst Aboriginal communities. There are over 250 Mobs in Australia and even more Clans (some Mobs have upwards of 7 clans).

“The Voice” proposed 20 delegates. Do the math. They knew what was coming. Larger mobs soaking up the resources, and doling out the spoils to their “preferred” relatives.

Meanwhile, it’s the inner city Liberals patting themselves on the back for being compassionate and caring. “Yeah”, we voted “Yes”, everyone else is racist.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 14, 2023 10:41 pm

Labor take note.
The bush are up and about and really pissed off.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 10:42 pm

Alcosleazy needs to go.

Muddy
Muddy
October 14, 2023 10:44 pm

Sadly, no celebrities vowed to move north to PNG if we voted NO. (That would have been nasty of us to subject our neighbours to such punishment anyway).

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 10:46 pm

Have drunk a lot tonight Cats. Am a bit drunk. It’s been a tough week.

Kosher Woodstock’s?

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 14, 2023 10:48 pm

Vote NO to Albanese is an election slogan that writes itself.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 10:50 pm

QLD has shown it will be our Florida. Just need to get rid the Marxists and never let them back in.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 10:51 pm

If it wasn’t for Kamahl, the vote would have been Yes, tonight. I’m convinced.

Helen
Helen
October 14, 2023 10:54 pm

Albos speech was aimed at those who might think it is time for them to have a shot – like Bill Shitten – SLF. He was trying to preserve his ass.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 10:55 pm

Yes celebrities silent on the result
Jenna Clarke
Jenna Clarke

After attracting many high profile supporters for the Yes campaign, the celebrities who backed the referendum have remained silent on the result.

Once the country voted overwhelmingly to not enshrine an Indigenous voice to parliament on Saturday night, social media accounts of some of the most famous, popular and high profile supporters did not offer an immediate post mortem on the result.

Instead many, including activist Grace Tame, have shared helpline and support details for those who may be struggling to process the result.

Young politicians, like Victorian Senator Jana Stewart, published a black square and removed her avatars.

“We are not ok, we are grieving, Rest is resilience,” Stewart posted and said she would not be returning to social media until Monday.

In the weeks, days and hours leading up to polling day, actors like Cate Blanchett, influencers and athletes including Penrith Panthers star Nathan Clearly and Collingwood captain Darcy Moore backed the voice and promoted their positions online and in interviews during the campaign.

Hollywood star Chris Hemsworth was one of the last to indicate which way he and his brother – fellow actor – Luke – were voting on Saturday morning with an Instagram post titled: “My two cents”.

Luke said a recent trip to WA’s Kimberly inspired his Yes vote, while Chris told his 57m fans he was voting yes by comparing the referendum to women’s suffrage.

“If women were fighting for the right to have a say in parliament about issues that affect them directly… Would you vote no? I don’t think there should even be a vote. The first people Australia deserve a voice,” Chris said.

Russell Crowe made a vignette for his 1m Instagram followers of him writing the plea: “Australia please say yes!”

“Never get political on your fans dude, you lose them,” one fan replied, which attracted more than 100 likes.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 10:55 pm

All those business ‘leaders’ should learn their place and shut the f*ck up from now on.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 14, 2023 10:55 pm

Kamalmentum won the day JC.
Big call.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 14, 2023 10:56 pm

Alcosleazy needs to go.

And give liebor some clean air?
Better to keep the Elbowtross hanging around their necks.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 10:56 pm

Sleazy is on the Green Mile. He’s sharting his pants.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 10:58 pm

Once the country voted overwhelmingly to not enshrine an Indigenous voice to parliament on Saturday night, social media accounts of some of the most famous, popular and high profile supporters did not offer an immediate post mortem on the result.

Instead many, including activist Grace Tame, have shared helpline and support details for those who may be struggling to process the result.”

Oh, the schadenfreude.

JC
JC
October 14, 2023 10:58 pm

I know Mole. 🙂

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
October 14, 2023 11:02 pm

Have drunk a lot tonight Cats. Am a bit drunk.

Rubbish! You’re still posting coherently, so at most you might be a little tipsy.
🙂

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 14, 2023 11:02 pm

Mundine absolutely exploding! Yikes. Giving the J’ismists a serve.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 11:03 pm

Call in the Councillors , our bwave First XI are devoed.

Luzu
Luzu
October 14, 2023 11:03 pm

I can honestly say I have a schadenboner* at this referendum result.

Which glorious Cat coined that term? Was it JC? Maybe Rabz?

*And I don’t even have a penis.

Rohan
Rohan
October 14, 2023 11:06 pm

Warren Mundine just cracked it with the Media’s inane questions on sky. As in really cracked it. Told them to pull their heads in and hold the politicians to account, as Aborigines in remote communities are getting raped and committing suicide.

Price and Mundine ushered off stage at the end of it.

This is what’s needed. A bit of agro at the shit state of affairs perpetuated by the MSM and elites.

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 11:06 pm

Many years ago, in the early 90s, in Woollahra, I lived in an apartment under Russell Crowe. I’d see him on the stairs and I’d wish I wasn’t just “living under him”. He was really handsome, with a divine deep voice (I like men with manly voices). But now, he’s just a PC wimp, a dolt, a cult adherent, no different to Tom Cruise in Scientology, someone who refuses to think outside the box.

I no longer fantasise about being “under him”.

Deadman
October 14, 2023 11:10 pm

I was a scrutineer in Rosebery, Braddon, Tas. Out of 314 ballot papers:-
No: 224
Yes: 85
Informal: 5*.

*two of these supposedly invalid papers will eventually be counted with the legitimate “no” votes since the only problem was that an AEC worker had forgotten to initial the papers. Of the three other papers, one was marked “bullshit” with nothing written within the box and the other two were featured no writing whatsoever. Only three invalid votes out of 314 is, I submit, quite remarkable.

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 11:27 pm

Mother Lode

Oct 14, 2023 7:20 PM
Time to break open the champlonk! ????

Doing just that now.

I’ve been scoffing XXXX Bitter. With the very good news, it’s time to open the Lark Classis Cask.
Cheers, Big Ears!

Jorge
Jorge
October 14, 2023 11:32 pm

Albanese read his speech. Used old racist and Australia hater Churchill at the end. Burney read hers, too.

Dutton spoke without notes. But it was Price who outshone them all, speaking off the cuff. An astonishing speech. Never looked down. We have to make her PM.

MareeS
MareeS
October 14, 2023 11:32 pm

I have been voting since 1973 (Whitlam was not my fault), and I have never been so relieved as by tonight’s result. I did fear for Australia’s future.

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 11:32 pm

Chris

Oct 14, 2023 7:27 PM
Queensland has entered the chat.

At first look, running 80% No. Go you good thing!

Jayzus.
I’m looking at the 7:30pm results and can say I’m proud to be a Queenslander.
Which State will get the bragging rights?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 11:33 pm

I’m remembering being gravely assured by a certain, prominent activist, that Aboriginal parents, in the 1960’s , weren’t allowed to send their children to school. In the 1960’s I shared a classroom with the Headlands, the Mippy’s, the Colbungs, the Narriers, the offspring of the Noongar clans…..

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 11:36 pm

Cassie of Sydney

Oct 14, 2023 7:29 PM
It’s done. No to racism, to to identity politics, no to division.
We are one, we are all equal under the law.

It occurred to me Cassie as I chatted to the Barman at the Shakespeare tonight, that this was about a choice between freedom and authoritarianism.
It will be interesting over the next week, as to how it turns out.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 11:36 pm

WA just smashed through 60%

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 14, 2023 11:36 pm

Please, somebody. Where (i.e. which channel) did Warren Mundine unload at journalists?

Luzu
Luzu
October 14, 2023 11:37 pm

Well, darn it, Cassie

You have removed Rusty from my list of rootable men.

Then again, he has let himself go somewhat, physically as well as politically.

Made some great movies but.

Luzu
Luzu
October 14, 2023 11:38 pm

Razey,

“WA just smashed through 60%”

Up the WAs!

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 11:41 pm

Im surprised by the resilience against one of the biggest one sided brainwashing attempts (other than covid) in the history of the country. The Marxists must be wondering what went wrong.

Ron Elk
Ron Elk
October 14, 2023 11:42 pm

I always thought Ace from Ace of Spades HQ coined ‘schadenboner’, at least that’s my memory. It might have been discussed on the old Ace of Spades podcast…

Luzu
Luzu
October 14, 2023 11:42 pm

“We are one, we are all equal under the law.”

How I wish this were true. But until the Aboriginal victims of abuse in remote communities who are victimised by other Aboriginals are afforded the same protection under the law, this simply isn’t true.

The soft racism of low (cultural) expectations is truly pernicious.

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 11:45 pm

Bourne1879

Oct 14, 2023 7:42 PM
Communist Mayo now on and devastated.

That’s so sad, Mayo.
Here’s my sad face.
Now for my next trick, I will call for the banning and incarceration of all the Communist pricks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 11:45 pm

49 minutes ago
Jake Dietsch
Landslide No vote in WA

As votes continued to come in, the No vote was leading in WA by a 58.5 to 41.5 per cent margin.

So far only three of WA’s 15 seats were expected to back the Voice.

Labor MP Patrick Gorman’s seat of Perth recorded the West’s strongest Yes vote with more than 58 per cent support, while the northern regional seat of Durack – held by Melissa Price – recorded the highest No vote of more than 78 per cent.

Independent Kate Chaney’s seat of Curtin and the Labor seat of Fremantle were the only other two Yes voting seats.

The results in Curtin fly in the face of a Fair Australia poll that predicted less than a third of voters in Ms Chaney’s seat would support the Voice.

As well as Durack, the No vote was above 70 per cent in Canning and O’Connor.

Luzu
Luzu
October 14, 2023 11:48 pm

“So far only three of WA’s 15 seats were expected to back the Voice.”

We burn their letterboxes at dawn!

Muddy
Muddy
October 14, 2023 11:50 pm

CNN [I know, I feel very dirty]:

With a two-letter word, Australians struck down the first attempt at constitutional change in 24 years, a move experts say will inflict lasting damage on First Nations people [my bolding] and suspend any hopes of modernizing the nation’s founding document.

Yes. Because all indigs are carbon copies of each other, with no individual characteristics of their own; personalities, preferences, life experiences.

Robert Sewell
October 14, 2023 11:50 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Oct 14, 2023 7:51 PM
Does this mean the inquiry into where trillions of dollars has gone, will go ahead?

A good point.
A very good point, ZK2A.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2023 11:53 pm

Flakey internet, so I’m only up to eight o’clock Syd time (it’s afternoon still here). Wouldn’t miss this for quids! Great to be able to follow the process of this vote right through from the nail-biting start, as we are so far in time behind here in Corfu. Thank you for the Cat, Dover, it is the only place to be in times of National elation, and of sorrow. NZ elections are thrilling a couple of New Zealanders here on board too.

The Italians have a word for this Referendum result: FANTASTICO!!
We are Australlians, all. Not divided by race. All equal under the Rule of Law.

Muddy
Muddy
October 14, 2023 11:54 pm

The Marxists must be wondering what went wrong.

The obvious answer is less choice next time. If the serfs cannot be trusted to make the correct choice, they don’t fear us enough.

Razey
Razey
October 14, 2023 11:58 pm

Australia as a whole just hit 60%

Lysander
Lysander
October 14, 2023 11:58 pm

Don’t forget to pop by this commenting site which I’ve jokingly referred to as Munted’s site:

https://www.pollbludger.net/2023/10/14/indigenous-voice-referendum-live/#comments

Where is that old twisted degenerate pervert at anyway?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 14, 2023 11:58 pm

The soft racism of low (cultural) expectations is truly pernicious.

With Jacinta and Warren on the job, this is now far more likely to change.

They fully understand what needs to be done to bring back the Rule of Law, with no pandering by urban elites to indigenous fantasising.

Muddy
Muddy
October 14, 2023 11:59 pm

Ah, here’s the obsequiousness and humility:

A group of Indigenous leaders have declared a “week of silence” after tonight’s referendum, saying: “We now know where we stand in this, our own, country”.

A statement written by a number of Indigenous leaders, without names being provided, calls for seven days of mourning to grieve the comprehensive No vote and to “reflect on is meaning and outcome”.

“Now is not the time to dissect the reasons for [it],” it says.

“Now is the time for silence, to mourn and deeply consider the consequences of this outcome. Much will be asked about the role of racism and prejudice against Indigenous people in this result. The only thing we ask is that each and every Australian who voted in this election reflect hard on this question.”

The statement says it was “never in the gift of these newcomers to refuse recognition to the true owners of Australia”.

“The referendum was a chance for newcomers to show a long-refused grace and gratitude, and to acknowledge that the brutal dispossession of our people underwrote their every advantage in this country.”

SBS website.

No lessons will be learned.
Nothing will change.
Unless a major political party pierces the bubble surrounding them.
Ha!

Robert Sewell
October 15, 2023 12:02 am

Barry

Oct 14, 2023 8:17 PM
No olive branches.
Grind them into the dust.

Tony Abbott has learned nothing. You cannot be a ‘peacemaker’ when the bullets are flying. Wake up to your bloody self.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 15, 2023 12:06 am

The early batch of postal votes seem strongly biased No, all were 70%+ No in the 3 divisions I’ve looked at that had over 4% postal votes. If that is maintained for the next week, a national No 63%+ is likely.
e.g.
DistrictId | State | Division | Postal % Yes
196| TAS | Lyons | 26%
233| VIC | Wannon | 25%
135| NSW | New England | 18%

slackster
slackster
October 15, 2023 12:08 am

So I tuned in to some of the coverage tonight where the footage showed the votes being tallied, I noticed the as the pile of YES votes being tabbed through that at least 5 of the YES marks in the box were identical- anyone else catch this?

Gabor
Gabor
October 15, 2023 12:09 am

Robert Sewell
Oct 15, 2023 12:02 AM

Barry

Oct 14, 2023 8:17 PM
No olive branches.
Grind them into the dust.

Tony Abbott has learned nothing. You cannot be a ‘peacemaker’ when the bullets are flying. Wake up to your bloody self.

Anyone who still think of him as a statesman is a fool.

Robert Sewell
October 15, 2023 12:13 am

John

Oct 14, 2023 8:30 PM
Warren calling for an audit of aboriginal expenditure.
Our Voice has spoken and now the politicians must listen. Keep all the Labor lawyers far away from the investigations that must happen. We demand answers. Why are aborigines still living in poverty? Where have the billions each year gone? The frauds must be jailed!

The issue now is that is Trillions, not Billions.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 12:14 am
Robert Sewell
October 15, 2023 12:15 am

Carpe Jugulum

Oct 14, 2023 8:30 PM

JC
Oct 14, 2023 8:28 PM
Gez,
real men don’t eat quiche
Damn straight brother, we eat egg and bacon pie……..with a beer……………for breakfast.

‘ang on.
Who took the sherry off the menu?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 12:15 am

Ok My Teal Electorate Mackellar with “Stupid Zali Steggall of NO Brains”

showing YES 50.47% – NO 49.53%

Given – https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumDivisionResults-29581-132.htm

seems to show Absent – Provisional – Declaration Pre-Poll not showing any numbers and my wife voted NO Pre-Poll

I take heart from Postal Vote Figures of YES 35.34% vs NO 66.64%

that in the end `Mackellat may end up with greater NO Vote – Sucks to Zali Steggall

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 12:17 am

Robert Sewell
Oct 15, 2023 12:15 AM

Carpe Jugulum

Oct 14, 2023 8:30 PM

JC
Oct 14, 2023 8:28 PM
Gez,
real men don’t eat quiche
Damn straight brother, we eat egg and bacon pie……..with a beer……………for breakfast.

<em>‘ang on.
Who took the sherry off the menu?

Was it in a Brown Paper bag in Wynyard Park?

MareeS
MareeS
October 15, 2023 12:18 am

Muddy, 11.59pm

“a chance for newcomers to show a long-refused grace and gratitude, and to acknowledge that the brutal dispossession of our people underwrote their every advantage “ etc…

I’m sure my ancestor arriving in chains aboard HMS Alexander in 1788 knew a bit about brutal dispossession and not much about advantage.

At least he drew a line under it and moved on into his future, as,I hope, all Australians will do now.

Apart from the reparations-seekers, of course. They will never give up.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 15, 2023 12:18 am

Warren Mundine interviewed by Patricia Karvelas. Classic.
She’s so angry she’s trembling. She oh so badly wants to spit on him, or slap him. Crikey’s she’s wound up.

So deliciously wonderful to see her in such a state of emotional distress.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 12:22 am

Just back in and having a quick scroll back.
Is it fair to say things could of gone better for Luigi this evening?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 12:24 am

Warren Mundine is a double traitor.
First he bailed from the Liars.
Now he voted against the Gravy Train.

Muddy
Muddy
October 15, 2023 12:26 am

Regional and remote indigenous Australians have been comprehensively failed by their so-called ‘leaders’ for 4-5 decades at least. Formalising the same policies of cultural and economic slavery under the same financially fat class of elite mediocrities is not the answer. A radical change is necessary. What shape that change must take is not for me to imagine, but a state of static decay is unhealthy for any human.

At the very least, our Filth-Filter media and public institutions need to cease presenting indigenous Australians as two-dimensional caricatures; unworthy of a third dimension that would qualify them as human. Essentially, they are categorised as sub-human; a label that once would have been responded to with revulsion and condemnation. The collars and chains are there, but invisible.

billie
billie
October 15, 2023 12:33 am

well Albo .. you Tory fighter, you

You have been well and truely beaten and not just by the mythical Tory old enemy.

The Australian people who, in your hubris, you (and all your mates, Alan maaaaate) thought you could bullshyte and cajole into doing what you wanted, rejected you.

Resign, move along and give someone else a go. You’re a little factional fighter and, like Julia Gillard, a good parliamentry performer, but not PM material.

No one in the electorate who voted No, is likely to ever trust anything to you again.

It’s been a night, could I offer all of you another glass of shadenfeude .. for the road perhaps?

ahahahahahaha

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 12:40 am

This is one of the epic victories.
A Yes campaign awash with cash, backed by the ALP, Greens and half the LNP, supported by all major corporations and sporting codes and given a free pass by the media got belted 60:40.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 15, 2023 12:53 am

I’ve never considered rooting Rusty Crowe, & struggle to comprehend how anybody could think him anything but physically repulsive.

That’s the broad church of the Cat for you. Vive le difference.

Emma Alberici however is a very different matter. Not anymore. Just saw a picture of her urging me to vote Yes. (political differences are no obstacle, I’d do AOC in a heartbeat, or would have when she was first elected, she’s rapidly going to seed)

Emma now sports a haircut that’s shorter than some soldiers I’ve seen, & is going to seed in Julie Bishop fashion, though a lot more unattractive.
She may even be transitioning into blokehood.

Luzu
Luzu
October 15, 2023 1:02 am

Salvatore,

Rusty was once a feisty gladiator and also a fine boxer (movie roles, I know) and as we all age and gravity/time can be unkind, he was on my list.

The softcock politics, however, are a bridge too far.

Robert Sewell
October 15, 2023 1:03 am

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cohenite

Oct 14, 2023 10:07 PM
Okay, let’s not over-egg the quiche.

She’s not a quiche she is the full menu of caviar, truffles, hot stone cooked Kobe sirloin, chips dipped in Dom Pérignon Champagne, triple-cooked in pure goose fat and coated with gold flecks followed by Italian cassata made with Bailey’s Irish cream liquor and lashings of King Island triple cream.

‘Ow much for the leetle girl, Cohenite?”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 1:06 am

This is one of the epic victories.
A Yes campaign awash with cash, backed by the ALP, Greens and half the LNP, supported by all major corporations and sporting codes and given a free pass by the media got belted 60:40.

You’ve nailed it, Sancho.

Epic is truly the word. It offers so much hope for better things, on so many of the big issues of today. Looking at Net Zero next.

Chris
Chris
October 15, 2023 1:11 am

That’s the broad church of the Cat for you. Vive le difference.

Maaate.
La difference.

Chris
Chris
October 15, 2023 1:14 am

QLD closing on 70% no!
WA at 62.9

Curtin, haunt of teals at 51% Yes.
And Perth at 56% Yes.

DIsgraceful.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 15, 2023 1:15 am

Luzu Oct 15, 2023 1:02 AM
Rusty was once a feisty gladiator and also a fine boxer (movie roles, I know) and as we all age and gravity/time can be unkind, he was on my list.

Heh, Luzu, you know I’m only being mischievous.
Though the nearest I ever got to seeing him as handsome was when he got arrested in NYC for picking on a telephone in his hotel room.

Other than that, to me he’s always seemed a boofhead. An image he’s done nothing to cause me to change my mind about.

Luzu
Luzu
October 15, 2023 1:26 am

From the AEC website just now:

17,565,728 Australians are enrolled to vote.

5,163,993 voted Yes

7,809,458 voted No

139,967 voted Informal

That leaves a whopping 4,452,310 who didn’t cast a vote.

Is this possible? The only reason I checked is when I skimmed across the No + Yes + Informal number on the AEC website, they didn’t seem to add up to a high enough figure in a country with a population of 26 million.

Rococo Liberal
Rococo Liberal
October 15, 2023 1:29 am

Lizzie I was on Seadream on a voyage that stopped in Corfu. I got to see where Prince Philip was born. Lovely place.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 15, 2023 1:50 am

Three interesting results.
Linda Burney electorate voted No
Julian Leeser electorate voted No
Lingiari covering Alice Springs and Uluru voted No with 57%; held by an Aboriginal Labor MP but also where Jacinta is from.

MareeS
MareeS
October 15, 2023 2:02 am

We are in FNQ this week, and listening to conversation around us at the watering hole tonight at Port Douglas, people are pretty happy with the result. As are we. Camaraderie all around.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 15, 2023 2:08 am

No one should be surprised. When issues are fought on policy substance and arguments, the Conservatives generally win the debate. The Voice is a single issue.

When it comes to a “General Election”, it all comes down to advertising dollars and party affiliation.

The Liberals need to take lessons from this victory. Pick an issue that’s “unpopular” and run with it. For example, John Howard and boat people. It’s the chink in Labours armour as they get further driven to the extreme left.

The current situation in the Middle East is a classic example. Labor Governments don’t know which way they want to turn, because they don’t want to “offend” an important constituency in Western Sydney.

“The Voice” proves the fallacy. Stand on your dig. Argue the issue on the facts.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 4:04 am

Corfu – a book called ‘Adriatic’ which I am reading, by Robert Kaplan, says it well: “The island of corfu is, and is not, Greece. It has been identified as much with the Adriatic as it has with the archipelagic Greek seaboard. Corfu, in a larger sense, constitutes a register of (and meditation on) European history itself. The real beauty of this island is how it makes you think, in the most profound and analytic way. Vandals, Goths, Byzantines, Slave and Barbary pirates, Normans, Angevins, Catalans, Venetians, Ottomans, Russians, French, British, Germans, and Italians all conquered, reconquered, or raided this Greek island not because of its beauty, but because of its strategic location. It is the Gibralter of the Adriatic.

And before all of that there was an ancient history.

On our tour today we came across the main strands of the above.

Most particularly, our attention was taken by the statue of an Austrian general, who in 1716 used the two old great forts, connected by tunnels, to maintain an Ottoman seige said to be 50,000 strong against 8,000 Corfuoits. No-one was more pleased than the Venetians. The Ottomans were constantly making attacks but this was the big one, and Corfu repelled it, assisted by a major storm sent by their patron Saint Spyridon. Every August 11th Corfu still celebrates his victory. They are not too keen on the Ottomans around here.

We were also impressed to see both the British and the French recognised as contributory and well-intentioned colonisers. The old Royal Palace where Prince Phillip was born was created in Regency style in the early C19th by a much loved British Governor, for his wife’s ‘get away’ from the main palace in town (that one in town bearing plentiful bullet holes in it from WW2). His statue, wearing a Roman toga to signify wisdom and dignitas, is a tribute to his work in infrastructure development and social welfare. The homesick Napoleonic French built a very fine replica of a Parisian promenade that Corfu delights in today. Not all colonisers were bad; what a relief. Sadly, this wise fellow only enjoyed four more years in the delightfully mild climate, entrancing landscapes and cosmopolitan atmosphere of Corfu. He was so successful he was posted on to India. The rewards of high office, says Hairy sarcastically, betting the man didn’t come home waving a piece of paper and saying to his wife ‘good news, darling’.

And if you’re sick of modern history and Corfu, just grab your copy of the Odyssey and read about Ulysses coming to Corfu trying to get home to Ithaca and being assisted by the King and Queen here, who knew him for a kinsman and gave him a boat and supplies. Then whip on a few hundred years later BC and you can turn to Thycydides’ Peloponnesian War and read more about the Athenian navy gathering here after Corfu had allied with Athens against Corfu’s overlords in Corinth.

If you are bored with all of that rub the nose of the bronze bust of either Gerald or Lawrence Durrell, memorialised in a park near the old palace, who both wrote about Corfu. Gerald called it ‘the garden of the gods’. So it is, too.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 4:06 am

blockquote fail, wrong way round. And still on referendum thread.

Will repost on OT. Apologies, this flakey internet is foul

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 15, 2023 4:58 am

A tad pissed we didn’t get 70/30 but this little black duck will take 60/40 any day of the week.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 15, 2023 5:50 am

Good to see that the No vote was 2-3% higher than I estimated. Hopefully a few myths will be called out now, firstly that 80% of indigenous supported the Yes vote as the results in the outback seats in NSW, Qld, NT, SA and WA indicate that a significant number, if not a majority, voted No. Secondly, the rest of the world couldn’t give a rat’s about our referendum. Just listened to the news on a German radio station and a 17 year old girl winning a french fry cooking contest in Garmisch-Partenkirchen was deemed more newsworthy than our referendum.

caveman
caveman
October 15, 2023 5:59 am

Indigenous advocate Marcia Langton fired back on the same program and declared ‘Reconciliation is dead’.

I didn’t think about that, the grifting “reconciliation” scam has been settled with the Voice referendum as well.
It’s about being one people one country.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 6:58 am

Is it too soon to start wearing a Dinosaur T-Shirt on a regular basis? Perhaps it is.

As far as and dinosaurs and dickheads go we now know who the real dinosaurs and dickheads are — it is the elite class: the ‘never a care’ from the wealthy suburbs, it is the young university-educated who are the dickheads because they have been sucked in and their Marxist, leftist professors and academics who are the dinosaurs still dragging around the now centuries old Marxist bullshit — as for the Marxist catch-cry: workers of the world, unite — well we did and righteously pounded the real racists with a resounding NO.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 6:58 am

Just listened to the news on a German radio station and a 17 year old girl winning a french fry cooking contest in Garmisch-Partenkirchen was deemed more newsworthy than our referendum.

But, but … the eyes of the world are upon us.
They are.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:59 am

Reconciliation?

1967
Land rights
Sorry book
PM says sorry (sort of twice)

The Aboriginal, Marxist activists killed reconciliation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 6:59 am

Welcome to Day 1 of Noel’s Vow of Silence.
I can’t do a proper welcome because my gum leaf burning guy hasn’t shown up.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:01 am

30:70 may be a thing with more QLD, WA & pre poll votes.

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2023 7:03 am

That leaves a whopping 4,452,310 who didn’t cast a vote.

The count stopped and will resume?

calli
calli
October 15, 2023 7:08 am

No more WTCs, vows of silence, corporate busybody canings, and the best – rural and suburban Aussies exposing the utter dislocation and bubble existence of the ACT and wealthy, virtue signalling electorates.

A good result.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 7:08 am

Muddy
Oct 15, 2023 12:26 AM

. Magnificent comment Muddy. Thank you, so well said.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:08 am

That leaves a whopping 4,452,310 who didn’t cast a vote.

No, it’s just the way the AEC set up their live count tally.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:11 am

Dot

Oct 15, 2023 7:08 AM

That leaves a whopping 4,452,310 who didn’t cast a vote.

No, it’s just the way the AEC set up their live count tally

Otherwise known as the “Great Twostix Imaginary Electoral Fraud”.
Speaking of which, who predicted an AEC vote steal?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
October 15, 2023 7:11 am

It’s so nice to wake up on the wrong side of history.

calli
calli
October 15, 2023 7:12 am

Oh…and Mark “How can we help” Riley’s trembling lower lip as he tallied up the disaster.

Sweet, sweet stuff.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:12 am

“If you don’t know, find out what you don’t know… what that slogan is saying is ‘if you’re a dinosaur or a dickhead… who can’t be bothered reading, vote no’,” Martin told the crowd.

Be quiet now! He should never pipe up again in public.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:14 am

Is Macca Szubanski still taking down names?
Gonna be busy.
There’s about 10 million of us.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:18 am

Macca?
Magda.
Although Maccas Szubanski kind of works.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:24 am

Otherwise known as the “Great Twostix Imaginary Electoral Fraud”.

Which doesn’t matter when nominally conservative leaders blow opportunities like double majorities in Federal Parliament.

The left wing of the ALP and Greens would steamroll us to collectivism given half a chance.

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2023 7:29 am

There was a couple of those the fix is inners.
The entire postal vote was going to be replaced with yes while thousands were rushing around doing multivoti.

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2023 7:34 am

Those yes campaigners can now get their hands dirty out in rural and remote communities.

Off you go and make good use of your week of blessed silence, showing how you really cared.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 7:35 am

This is the last half of a long letter to members from Daniel Wild of the IPA.

I am tremendously proud of the research and analysis the IPA has prepared over many years on this vital topic, and on the broader matter of our national values and way of life. And I am also very proud of the team at the IPA, who has, among many other matters, been provided nation-leading research on the Voice to Parliament for many years.

It is important also to understand that the Voice is a dramatic refutation of Australia’s governing class of the corporate, media, political, and institutional elites. Never before in Australia’s history has economic, corporate, financial, and communications power been coordinated and deployed against mainstream Australians in such a manner.

At least in the early days of the referendum campaign, almost every single major corporate, media organisation, civic institution (such as places of worship), and sporting code shamelessly supported and financed the divisive race-based Voice to parliament.

All up, the Yes campaign had a war chest of some $50 million minimum.

Never forget everything that the elites tried to do to stack the deck in this referendum and to stop there being a free and fair debate.

The government gave a multimillion dollar financial free kick to the Yes campaign through favourable tax treatment.

Qantas gave free flights to Yes campaigners.

The government tried to stop the distribution of the referendum pamphlet, outlining the Yes and the No case, a tradition dating back to 1912.

And foreign big tech companies and self-appointed fact-checkers, with the backing of government, engaged in unprecedented levels of censorship.

That Australians saw through all of this should give you hope for the future.

Lastly, we should all remember that millions of our fellow countrymen and women voted Yes. And that, no doubt, the great majority of those who voted this way did so because they genuinely believed the Voice would alleviate the tragic outcomes that far too many Indigenous Australians in remote parts of the country face, just as we all do.

It is our obligation and responsibility to engage in a healing and unifying process for our nation. There is far more that unites us as Australians than divides us. The fault is not with those who voted Yes, but with the elites in Canberra who put our nation through this divisive, unnecessary, and entirely avoidable process.

Everything the IPA has done in terms of research has only been possible thanks to you and our nearly 9,000 members across Australia.

Thank you for your support – this one’s for you.

Before I let you go, I wanted to remind you of a special IPA Online Town Hall, to be held on Monday 16 October. John Roskam, Scott Hargreaves and myself will provide our insights on the Voice referendum and take your questions.

The IPA Town Hall is held over Zoom, and there are two sessions you can join – either 12-1pm, or 5-6pm (or you can attend both). You can register here. I hope you can make it.

They too have done sterling work for the NO case.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 7:38 am

Does anyone know how the electorate of Berowra voted in the Referendum, I can’t seem to find it — that is the electorate in which that shit-lipped bald-headed flog Matt Kean has his state electorate. And Bradfield too if someone better at finding these things than I. Thanks

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:43 am

Links to NSW divisional voting here.
I think it is Bradfield 51.6% Yes, Berowra 53% No.

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2023 7:44 am

Berowra NSW 47.1 52.9 78.8

Berowra for the no.

calli
calli
October 15, 2023 7:47 am
calli
calli
October 15, 2023 7:50 am

Heh. Hunter was 71% No.

All that money thrown at it, so much good it could have done if used wisely.

calli
calli
October 15, 2023 7:52 am

And my electorate, Paterson, at 70% No, despite the large and very prominent indigenous population.

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2023 7:53 am

Browbeating by big corporate worked a treat.

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2023 7:55 am

Maybe that’s because of a large and very prominent indigenous population.
Maybe there’s a very strong sense that it’s time aboriginal people took responsibility for themselves.
The opportunities are there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:56 am

IPA

It is our obligation and responsibility to engage in a healing and unifying process for our nation

No.
Not reading the shit flying around this morning.
Any “hand of friendship” apparently will have to come with a confession that you are a stupid racist.

Tom
Tom
October 15, 2023 8:01 am

Browbeating by big corporate worked a treat.

Doesn’t say much for our universities, especially those “educating” business leaders, when business leaders ignored centuries of corporate memory and set out to annoy most of their customers.

Get out politics, you clowns. You job is business.

bons
bons
October 15, 2023 8:05 am

Whoa. My electorate came in at 75%.
I would never have picked it at the booth.
Must have been the Noel effect.
Four eighty percenters in QLD.
C’mon Chook. Just try your secret treaty scam.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 8:06 am

We live on Proud No-No country too.
68.5% No thank you very much.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 8:06 am

Thank you rosie, thank you calli, cats rule — thank you so much — and it still looks as though there’s over 20% of the vote to be counted in many electorates. 70/30 may still be a go-er

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 8:08 am

The Oz is showing the far-left electorate of Fremantle has voted NO.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 8:12 am

Bitch and moan article.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-13/voice-vote-how-referendums-work/102952584

I wish we went the opposite way on the following referendums: Territory referendums voting, retirement of judges, rights and freedoms, 4 & 8 set terms & the republic.

I lost, do I think the system should change?

No.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 8:16 am

Tom

Oct 15, 2023 8:01 AM

Browbeating by big corporate worked a treat.

Doesn’t say much for our universities, especially those “educating” business leaders, when business leaders ignored centuries of corporate memory and set out to annoy most of their customers.

Get out politics, you clowns. You job is business.

Dare I say it, but there were encouraging signs of a sort.
The big corporates tipped in buckets of cash and, with big retailers, there were initial signs that they were planning heavy in-store promotions.
But suddenly the promos over the PA ceased, and plans for signage and staff badges and t-shirts ceased.
3AW ran a story about Dan Murphy’s staff being given Yes t-shirts, which some staff didn’t want, then suddenly it all went away.
There was an initial, feeble “Oh, it’s entirely voluntary*” but then it just flipped to total silence.
The smart ones sniffed the wind.

* Thinking back to the SSM campaign, I can imagine what “voluntary” means. If you are the manager of a store where the majority elect not to go along, expect a passive-aggressive call from HR asking about your various phobias.

Morsie
Morsie
October 15, 2023 8:20 am

Living in the Teal electorate of Kooyong,last figure I saw was 61 Yes.
Josh F made a very smart decision not to reconnect.
Kooyong is lost to the Liberals.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 15, 2023 8:31 am

Us old farts in the division of Longman QLD (just north of Brisbane) voted 75% No, with about 68% of the vote counted so far.
Many thanks to those in the public sphere who led the No charge, and a very big thank you to all the No volunteers. The two volunteers I gave a cold XXXX to as I went in to vote yesterday were very appreciative.
Very well done Australia for giving a very big middle finger to the racist ‘elites’, corporations who donated, pathetic universities, and the virtue signalling voters.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 8:34 am

Voting by Federal seats
Queensssland 3 Yes; 27 No.
NSW 10 Yes; 37 No.
Victoria 13 Yes; 26 No.
SA Zero Yes; 10 No
WA 2 Yes; 13 No
Tasmania 2 Yes; 3 No.
ACT 3 Yes; Zero No.
NT Zero Yes; 2 No.

National 33 Yes, 118 No.

Muddy
Muddy
October 15, 2023 8:37 am

We might remember ‘The Noel Effect’ from bons for future political tussles.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 15, 2023 8:37 am

Plibbers raking over the coals with Fran.
Doesn’t get it, not a clue.

Reconciliation – used as an accusation
Close the Gap – didn’t need a vote
Bi partisan – offered but rejected by Albo
Uluru Statement – not a holy text
Yes volunteers – sneering snobs
Yes leadership – unpleasant people

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 8:40 am

Sancho Panzer
Oct 15, 2023 8:34 AM
National 33 Yes, 118 No.

Thank you Sancho — I am a proud Australian — real Australians voted NO Fake Australians voted YES

Crossie
Crossie
October 15, 2023 8:40 am

Has anybody considered that the high NO vote in NT and other electorates with large numbers of aboriginal voters may actually have been a vote against the Head Men who own and control everything in traditional aboriginal communities? Could it have been a vote for democracy and against authoritarianism?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 8:43 am

From Dot’s ABC link.

Essentially, in terms of the second hurdle for referendums to pass, one Tasmanian has the same power as 14 NSW voters.

Funny, I never heard that when Tassie was busy delivering Green senators.
There was some noise initially that Territories should be given the full status of a state for referenda voting.
No doubt they thought ACT and NT would both be a slam dunk for Yes.

Tom
Tom
October 15, 2023 8:44 am

Sky’s Andrew Clennell is making a fool of himself this morning as an ALP yes-man, talking over Michaelia Cash in a premeditatedly hostile interview.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 8:44 am

Crossie

Oct 15, 2023 8:40 AM

Has anybody considered that the high NO vote in NT and other electorates with large numbers of aboriginal voters may actually have been a vote against the Head Men who own and control everything in traditional aboriginal communities? Could it have been a vote for democracy and against authoritarianism?

Tick.
Which means Yes.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 15, 2023 8:46 am

Oh it’s pathetic.
Fran and Rafe welcoming an indig to the broadcast like he’s suffered a death in the family.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 8:48 am

Andrew Clenell is a thin-lipped low IQ numbnuts, I cannot be in the same room as that dickhead.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 8:50 am

Tom

Oct 15, 2023 8:44 AM

Sky’s Andrew Clennell is making a fool of himself this morning as an ALP yes-man, talking over Michaelia Cash in a premeditatedly hostile interview.

Early in the piece last night he went with, “Well, Luigi might lose a bit of paint if Yes goes down, but [Dutton, Dutton, Dutton for five minutes]”
Have a look at those electorate numbers I posted at 8:34 and tell me who is shitting bricks this morning?
I’ll tell you who.
It isn’t Dutton.
It is sitting ALP members in a 55% plus No electorate, that’s who.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 15, 2023 8:55 am

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/10/14/aussie-deplorables-have-struck-a-blow-against-identity-politics/

Some extracts.

In voting No, Australians have done more than just reject the Voice to Parliament initiative. They have also reaffirmed some crucial democratic principles.

It is to the Australian people’s immense credit that they have rejected the divisive, anti-democratic Voice. Not least given the amount of pressure they came under to vote Yes from their supposed betters. The political, cultural and business elites gave their near-unanimous backing to the Voice. The major banks, the mining giants, the national airline and national public broadcaster all threw their weight behind the Yes campaign. Big Tech also put its thumbs on the scale, removing No videos on the spurious grounds that they were spreading ‘misinformation’, which is usually just code for arguments the establishment disagrees with. The rejection of the Voice really is Australia’s Brexit or Trump moment. As in Britain and America in 2016, the Aussie masses have rejected the stern instructions handed down from the establishment and made up their own minds instead.

On questions of race, as on so many other issues, Western politicians are beginning to lose their minds. Egalitarian principles have given way to a crackpot identitarianism. But the failure of the Voice referendum reminds us that there is a way out from this. It confirms that democracy – the active participation of the people in politics – remains by far our best weapon against the derangement of our elites. So let’s raise a glass to the No vote – and to the wisdom of the demos.

Tom
Tom
October 15, 2023 9:00 am

Hahaha. Sky New political editor Andrew Clennell says the referendum result is bad news politically for Peter Dutton because it makes him “look too negative”.

Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrell!

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 9:03 am

Fake Australians voted YES

Don’t be too harsh.

The school system is pure indoctrination.

Armadillo
Armadillo
October 15, 2023 9:06 am

Went to a party last night with a large percentage of employees that work for the major corporates that threw money at the Voice. They were livid that their bosses decided to get involved in it. One bloke in particular from Bunnings told me that bonuses weren’t paid this year because his “betters” were pissing money up the wall on virtue signalling.

It’s not just taxpayer money that got wasted. Some employees got a double whammy. Or a triple whammy if you count the derision from customers. It was nothing to do with them. The University fat cats in head office probably slept with a clear conscience knowing that they did their bit for “the cause”, utterly oblivious to the corporate damage. Backslapping and promotions will be the result.

mem
mem
October 15, 2023 9:08 am

Has anybody considered that the high NO vote in NT and other electorates with large numbers of aboriginal voters may actually have been a vote against the Head Men who own and control everything in traditional aboriginal communities? Could it have been a vote for democracy and against authoritarianism?

My gut feel is that the more exposure to Aboriginal community disfunction and the waste and rorting, the less likely to vote Yes.

Megan
Megan
October 15, 2023 9:14 am

When our inevitable downsize happens I’m getting out of this stupid electorate – every booth through the Eltham hippie heartland, the wealthy Ivanhoe enclave, the younger family cohorts in Monty, Yallambie, the Ivanhoe wannabees in Heidelberg and the retired academics of Rosanna and Lower Plenty, were overwhelmingly for Yes.

Too few ‘No’ outlier booths in Greensborough, Watsonia, Macleod and the working class bogans of Bundoora and Mill Park to make a difference. *sad face emoji*

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:22 am

Anger, tears, blame – and a thundering message to Australia: How the Yes campaign reacted to crushing Voice defeat – with Aboriginal elders warning: ‘We now know where we stand in our own country’


. Yes campaigners were overcome with emotion on Saturday
. The Indigenous Voice to Parliament referendum failed in every state
. Key figures slammed the No campaign as ‘lying to the public’

Comments Very Unkind to the Idiots above

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 15, 2023 9:23 am

Megan Oct 15, 2023 9:14 AM

me too

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 9:24 am

2.7% informal – come on how dumb are these people? We do need a civics test.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
October 15, 2023 9:25 am

Lindsay (NSW contains Penrith) voted near 70% No and Herbert (Qld contains Townsville) voted near 75% No. The celebrity NRL endorsements of Yes from Cleary and Thurston respectively provided no benefit.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 15, 2023 9:25 am

Which is the “marry Jacinta”queue and how long is the queue?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2023 9:25 am

My gut feel is that the more exposure to Aboriginal community disfunction and the waste and rorting, the less likely to vote Yes.
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Well said.

Tom
Tom
October 15, 2023 9:28 am

In Australian politics, celebrity endorsements are now the kiss of death.

You idiot, John Farnham.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2023 9:28 am

yesterday 7.47pm
The nation said No. So what do I say to my kids?
By Jack Latimore

The debate over an Indigenous Voice, and particularly the past 14 months since Prime Minister Anthony Albanese revealed draft wording of the referendum question, has been a challenging time in my household.

As millions of Australians cast their vote on Saturday, my concern was how I’d explain the nation’s decision to my kids if the Voice was rejected.

I am now faced with this reality. What do I say? What comes next?

My children’s school and kindergarten this year optimistically and proudly embraced a Yes position. As one of the few Aboriginal parents, I was encouraged by and proud of their early stance. It signalled the community cared about Aboriginal people and their right to not only have a say, but to speak up.

However, when support for the Voice dipped and from April dramatically slid in the polls, as a parent, I found myself increasingly concerned.

As the referendum date drew closer, my kids – like other primary school-aged kids all over the country – couldn’t comprehend how a No vote could even be a thing.

A No vote tells my kids, who are proudly Birpai, that the world surrounding them doesn’t want them in it, or care what they have to say. It’s a rejection of them

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