Open Thread – Christmas Day 2023


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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 25, 2023 12:19 am

Boo.and merry Christmas.

Rossini
Rossini
December 25, 2023 12:19 am

Merry Christmas to all who make this blog enjoyable to read,

Zatara
Zatara
December 25, 2023 12:27 am

0:13 / 2:32:51
Handel’s Messiah from the Sydney Opera House

Recommend scrolling forward 1:30 to start in order to avoid ruining the spirit of the day.

Robert Sewell
December 25, 2023 12:47 am

A merry Christmas to all the Cats, wherever you are today.

Megan
Megan
December 25, 2023 12:51 am

Wishing all commenters and lurkers here at NewCat the very best for this Christmas season. May there be magic. May there be music. May there be many new and lovely memories made no matter how you celebrate the day.

I’m going into my first Christmas Day in 40 years where someone else is decorating, prepping, cooking, serving and cleaning up. It’s going to be epic, and apart from the bill, painless.

Joy to the World, and thanks Dover for your efforts over the year culminating in your truly magnificent choice of artwork for today.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 25, 2023 1:18 am

Merry Christmas Cats & Kittehs.

And special thanks to Dover for providing this platform for us all to communicate, discuss things and argue different opinions.

And thanks to Tom for the 04:00AM cartoons.

Drink copiously.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 25, 2023 1:31 am

Merry Christmas one and all!

Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 1:31 am

Paywallian:
The annual Carols by Candlelight in Melbourne has been briefly interrupted after pro-Palestine protesters stormed the stage during the live broadcast.
Children performing were rushed from the Sidney Myer Music Bowl stage to safety after several protesters carrying Palestine flags descended out of nowhere to interrupt the show.
The Channel 9 cameras during the live broadcast were filming hosts David Campbell and Sarah Abo when the incident unfolded on Sunday.
One protester even tried to grab the microphone from Mr Campbell, managing to say โ€œwhile youโ€™re carolling, kids are dying in Gazaโ€ before the audio was cut.
Mr Campbell interrupted his scripted dialogue when he realised the commotion on stage wasnโ€™t part of the show.
โ€œHang on one second,โ€ he said.
โ€œNice and easy.โ€
The singer tried to keep the crowd calm and informed as security guards removed the protesters from the stage.
โ€œItโ€™s all good, thank you everybody, everyoneโ€™s allowed to have their moment,โ€ Mr Campbell said.
โ€œThe kids are safe, and theyโ€™re going to come back out.
โ€œItโ€™s important to come together on a night like this too when thereโ€™s a lot of pain out there and a lot of people are experiencing it.โ€
His co-host thanked the crew for their quick action in removing the protesters safely.
โ€œIt is the climate, we are in Melbourne,โ€ Ms Abo said.
โ€œIncredible work here by the team as well.โ€
The crowd was heard applauding as the kids returned to the stage and the show continued.
Executive Council of Australian Jewry co-CEO Alex Ryvchin condemned the disruption on Sunday.
โ€œYou can always count on anti-Israel extremists to make everything about them and to appall decent, ordinary people,โ€ Mr Ryvchin said.
โ€œThe chorus of boos tells them loud and clear theyโ€™re not wanted.โ€

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 25, 2023 1:43 am

โ€œThe chorus of boos tells them loud and clear theyโ€™re not wanted.โ€

But how were they even allowed to get near the stage? Compromised security hamas supporters?

Lysander
Lysander
December 25, 2023 2:48 am

Merry CHRISTmas to all Cats.

Johnny Rotten
December 25, 2023 3:14 am

Merry Christmas and Bah Humbug to those that knock it.

Whisky in my early morning coffee time now.

Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:01 am

No papers today, so here’s a classic from Johannes Leak.

Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:03 am

A 2023 classic by Mark Knight.

Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 4:09 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 25, 2023 4:14 am

Thanks Tom. And a very merry Christmas to you, in gratitude for your early morning labours.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 25, 2023 4:27 am

Thanks Tom. Keep up the excellent work.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 25, 2023 4:28 am

Please

Johnny Rotten
December 25, 2023 4:40 am

Thanks Tom. Lovely Christmas Cartoons there.

Pogria
Pogria
December 25, 2023 5:42 am

Merry Christmas, Joyeux Noel to all my fellow littermates. It is indeed a cheerful day in Outer Goulburnia. The Grandies sent pix last night of them having fun on the beach and, miracle of miracles! the pups slept through the night and I was able to usher them out before they dropped their loads on the floor. Yay!

Have a blessed day everyone. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿ˜€

Beertruk
December 25, 2023 5:57 am

Merry Christmas everyone.
Hope Santa brings you ‘quality loot.’
Two no-bake cheese cakes made yesterday.
Mint sauce made last night.
Cauliflower and broccoli in cheese sauce (cheese sauce made from scratch) to be made today.
Dieting to start on 2 Jan 2024. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Beertruk
December 25, 2023 5:59 am

None of that packet muck cheese sauce.

Pogria
Pogria
December 25, 2023 6:05 am

Beertruk,
glad to hear it. It doesn’t take much to make an excellent cheese sauce from scratch. Enjoy your day. ๐Ÿ˜€

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 25, 2023 6:15 am

ooops from the old thread

Merry Christmas to all gatti e gattine and thank you to dover_beach for this haven of discussion and sanity for the most part โ€” the sun is making a valiant attempt to come out behind the clouds, however, whatever the weather I am celebrating the birthday of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. I believe in his goodness and that of
His faithful followers. May his message of truth continue to survive and thrive and to bring light unto a darkening world.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 25, 2023 6:18 am

None of that packet muck cheese sauce.

Well done Beertruck, great satisfaction in making a good cheese sauce from scratch. I am fortunate to have a Thermomix that makes the best white sauce, no hands, all in together and 12 minutes later ecco! i litre of smooth and velvety goodness – I am a lucky girl. Buone Natale to all.

calli
calli
December 25, 2023 6:25 am

Happy Christmas, Cats and Kittehs.

Meanwhile in Milanโ€ฆ

๐Ÿ˜€

Beertruk
December 25, 2023 6:27 am

Thank you Pogria.
It will be ‘cholesterol heaven.’
FULL cream milk, butter, NOT margarine (margarine is one molecule away from plastic-Chef Jean-Pierre), tasty cheese and flour.
Salt and pepper.
Maybe a teaspoon or two of Dijon Mustard.
Enjoy your day as well Matey. ๐Ÿ™‚

Beertruk
December 25, 2023 6:34 am

Well done Beertruck, great satisfaction in making a good cheese sauce from scratch.

Thats it Tinta. ๐Ÿ™‚

Crossie
Crossie
December 25, 2023 6:48 am

Morning all and Merry Christmas, spend it with those you love. Thanks to Dover we have somewhere to congregate and share our thoughts.

RuthM
RuthM
December 25, 2023 6:55 am

Wishing you all the blessings and joy of Christmas.

Dot
Dot
December 25, 2023 7:02 am
rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 7:04 am

Merry Christmas everyone.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 25, 2023 7:07 am

Well, look what Santa brought!

What did y’all receive?

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 7:21 am

Dot fyi Stake organizes W8 BEN form for US dividends.

Withholding tax
There is a 30% withholding tax on dividend payments in the U.S. This is reduced to 15% after the completion of a W-8BEN form, which Stake arranges on your behalf when you make your first deposit on Stake Wall St.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 25, 2023 7:26 am

Merry Christmas one and all.
Not off to the best of starts here, absolutely pissing down with strong winds. Which has cut the power off. Good Lord

Pogria
Pogria
December 25, 2023 7:28 am

Black Ball,
bad luck about the power. Do you have enough ice to keep the booze cold?
Priorities. ๐Ÿ˜€

Pogria
Pogria
December 25, 2023 7:30 am

Beertruk,
Dijon’s great, but try a half teaspoon or so of Hot English as well. It really makes the cheese sing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 7:33 am

Merry Christmas to all Cats! Sadly the news hasn’t been merry, with report of another attempted attack on a cathedral overnight.

Several Suspected Islamists Arrested over Christmas Terror Attack Plot on Cologne Cathedral (24 Dec)

Several suspected Islamist terrorists have been arrested in Germany and Austria over alleged planned attacks during the Christmas holiday season including at the Cologne Cathedral, which was searched by police with explosive-sniffing dogs on Saturday evening.

According to a report from Bild, Germanyโ€™s largest-circulation newspaper, police have arrested several suspected terrorists said to be from Tajikstan

Attacks on churches and cathedrals by lefties and muslims seem very likely to continue, so be vigilant and careful.

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 7:33 am
johanna
johanna
December 25, 2023 7:35 am

Merry Christmas Cats and Kittehs!

Hope your power comes back on soon, BB. Bummer, on this of all days.

Looks like a wet Christmas coming up here as well.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 25, 2023 7:36 am

Merry Christmas

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 7:41 am

With “climate action” our right to self-governance will be ripped away.

Al Gore: Without Climate Action, โ€˜We Could Lose Our Capacity for Self-Governanceโ€™

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 7:42 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 7:44 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 7:48 am
Dot
Dot
December 25, 2023 7:50 am

Thatโ€™s a good find milt. I wonโ€™t be looking at US stocks for a bit though.

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 7:50 am

No, Donald Trump Will Never Consider Nikki Haley as VP Possibility, Hereโ€™s Why

Why so much focus on Nikki Haley?

For the same reason CTH focused so heavily on Mitch McConnell; these are backstabbing liars of the highest order. These are the snakes from the poem President Trump recited quite oftenโ€ฆ.

โ€ฆThese Haley types are the scheming DeceptiCons. Haley has no redeeming qualities if you are well versed in understanding the manipulative intents of the conniving big government, cocktail party, Wall Street republicans.

Nikki Haley is the Mitt Romney of John McCains.

Dot
Dot
December 25, 2023 7:52 am
shatterzzz
December 25, 2023 7:55 am

Please Explain .. Xmas special .. LOL!
https://youtu.be/pUEvj8r7aXY

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 7:57 am

Itโ€™s Christmas, the BEST time of the Year. Merry Christmas to all Cats and their families and especially dover- many thanks to for giving us this place.

Dot
Dot
December 25, 2023 7:58 am

Well, look what Clubber Lang brought!

What did yโ€™all receive?

Pain.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 8:03 am

And for my Jewish friends although Hanukkah is now over, here is a story worth reading in regard to that commemoration.

Do you know who the oldest active IDF reservist is? You should (24 Dec)

The oldest active Israeli army reservist is a living folk hero named Ezra Yachin. At 95 years old Yachin was hardly known outside of Israel until he was called up to active duty following the October 7th Hamas terrorist massacre.

Yachin was described by the NY Post as someone who once “served as a combat soldier with Lehi โ€” an underground paramilitary group active during British rule โ€” who fought against the British and the Arabs to create a Jewish homeland” and that he was “called back up “to recount how he survived Arab pogroms in Jerusalem during his childhood,” according to Israel National News.” The article included a new photo of Yachin at the ready holding a modern combat rifle.

In 1948, Yachin lost one of his eyes while fighting for the liberation of Jerusalem. He also lost many close friends during that fight and in other battles as well.

On December 19, pro-Israel activist Hillel Fuld wrote a Facebook post about Ezra Yachin. Hillel is the brother of another Israeli hero named Ari Fuld, whose parents made aliyah from the United States. Ari was murdered in 2018 and shot his terrorist attacker before his own death and in doing so saved the lives of others. … In the Facebook post, Hillel Fuld stated: There’s no age for reserves in Israel. Martin Holt [is] 87 years old (right), Ezra Yachin is 95 years old (in the center), and Nacha Gilboa 85 years old (left). “There is no nation in the world with heroes quite like the heroes of Israel. As long as I live, I’ll live as an army man” says Yachin, the oldest reservist in the IDF.”

I’ve tried to summarize, so left out quite a lot so do RTWT. Fight well Mr Yachin, in whatever post the IDF assigns you during this war.

Damon
Damon
December 25, 2023 8:07 am

“What did yโ€™all receive?”

Woke up to the usual tedious ‘acknowledgement of country’. No-one wants it, but the ABC just can’t let it go.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 25, 2023 8:11 am

Aye Pogria can’t have enough ice on hand.

Patt.mac
Patt.mac
December 25, 2023 8:13 am

Merry Christmas posters and lurkers all.
May 2024 bring just better.
My prayers each night for the Israelis and for my own family.

Good luck to everyone.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 25, 2023 8:13 am

Merry Christmas to all on the Cat, may the New Year bring you good tidings and prosperity.

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 8:17 am

Merry Christmas to all btw! Raining cats and dogs on the western edge of Melb

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
December 25, 2023 8:17 am

Ding Dong every one. In case you forgot, ya gotta love those frocks.

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 8:18 am
miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 8:18 am

At least the power’s still on here- been thinking about a backup lead-acid battery + inverter

Delta A
Delta A
December 25, 2023 8:19 am

Gloria in excelsis deo.

Merry Christmas, Cats.

Cassie of Sydney
December 25, 2023 8:20 am

FULL cream milk, butter, NOT margarine (margarine is one molecule away from plastic-Chef Jean-Pierre), tasty cheese and flour.
Salt and pepper.
Maybe a teaspoon or two of Dijon Mustard.

Sounds perfect, but don’t forget the nutmeg.

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 8:24 am
miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 8:25 am

The revenge of the Blob
In 2023, the technocratic elite made big strides towards taking back control.Not a happy read but a good one

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 25, 2023 8:27 am

The weather was predicted by the Top Men so that’s something.
I also predict our political caste to say this is why we need to move away from da naughty hydrocarbons. So we can have perfect 25 degree Christmas Days.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 25, 2023 8:31 am

Mmmyes BOM all over the weather today:

Melburnians can have a Christmas roast and pudding in comfort this year, because itโ€™s set to be mild and even rainy on the 25th.

Melbourneโ€™s latest weather forecast for Monday predicts cloud, rain and a maximum temperature of just 23 degrees.

The Bureau of Meteorology is predicting heavy downpours and potential thunderstorms for some parts of the state, including Melbourne, on Christmas Day.

A spokesperson from the bureau said many parts of Victoria could also expect south easterly winds of up to 25 to 40 km/h and cooler than average temperatures.

Geelong and Ballarat have almost identical Christmas Day forecasts to Melbourne, but conditions in Bendigo will be slightly better, with less cloud and a high of 24C.

Residents of eastern Victoria are most likely to have a damp Christmas, with a 70 per cent chance of Christmas Day rainfall in Bairnsdale and a 60 per cent chance in Traralgon.

As usual, the north is the place to be for warmth with a lovely 29C and sunny predicted in Mildura and highs of 26C forecast in Shepparton.

Looking ahead to the start of 2024, a warmer than average January is predicted for the west of Victoria, while the central and eastern parts of the state are expected to be close to average. Rainfall for January is predicted to be about average, with a slightly drier than usual month forecast in the west.

โ€œThese January outlooks reflect the impact of a few climate drivers, including El Nino,โ€ Ms Miles said.

โ€œSince model forecasts indicate that the tropical Pacific Ocean warming has likely peaked, El Nino will have less of an influence on our summer weather and hence the outlook rainfall being close to median during January.โ€

Probably get enough rain to cover January’s median rain amount by the end of the day.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 25, 2023 8:34 am

Hun also informing me that some idiot ran onto the stage at Carols By Candlelight with a Palestinian flag. What a way to bring people together dickhead.
Probably covered by readers here on olde fred but first I saw.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 25, 2023 8:35 am

Merry Christmas all.

Matrix condolences, any time of the year isn’t good to lose a family member let alone Christmas.

Woken just before 5am to electrical storms again. Coalfields round Coppabella got absolutely flogged up last night around midnight. Cooking lunch on the patio will be interesting after Mass this morning. Already building over our neck of the woods.

Time to stack the esky and have a good day all.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 25, 2023 8:36 am

Morning all.

BOM prediction for Canberra today:

Max 23
Showers increasing. Storm.
Possible rainfall: 15 to 50 mm
Chance of any rain: 100%

Where is Tim Flannering these days?

Tom
Tom
December 25, 2023 8:37 am

Off to the family lunch in the Victorian bush town of Winchelsea where a clever nephew bought cheaply before creating his young family.

Winch used to be a quiet little town on Victoriaโ€™s western plains; itโ€™s now effectively a bustling outer suburb of Melbourne 70 minutes from the big smoke via the Geelong ring road freeway.

Seafood on the menu today (Winch is only 40 minutes from Lorne โ€“ now full of Melbourne property millionaires, but still one the regional fresh seafood capitals).

Have a great day with the ones you love, Cats and Kittehs.

Eternal thanks to Dover Beach for not only creating the new Catallaxy, but for his care in ensuring it is the best little freedom oasis in Australia.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 25, 2023 8:38 am

Before I away, Bob Katter is shitty:

Bob Katter has accused Qantas of being anti-Christian after claiming the national air carrier snubbed traditional Christmas carols inside of one of its prestigious business class lounges.

In a written complaint against the airline, the independent MP said he was angered to hear no holiday music with faith-based messages while sitting in a Qantas Club during a flight delay.

โ€œI noticed that throughout the two hours I was there, they were playing โ€˜Xmasโ€™ music,โ€ Mr Katter said.

โ€œTwo hours of the most un-Christmassy music Iโ€™ve ever heard.

โ€œOver 80 per cent of Australiaโ€™s population are generational Australians, and they were brought up on Christmas Carols.

โ€œIt would seem then, that Qantas is anti-Christian.โ€

However, a Qantas spokeswoman said the airline was doing a lot to celebrate Christmas and rejected Mr Katterโ€™s claims.

She said the airline carrier was offering traditional Christmas food and beverages across in-flight and lounges as well as festive entertainment at selected airports, including roving Christmas performers, carollers and Santa appearances.

According to the most recent census data, there has been a steady decline in the number of Australians who identify as Christian, with overall numbers dropping from 74 per cent in 1991 to 44 per cent in 2021.

The same data found that while fewer people are identifying as Christian, the number of people claiming no religion has risen to 38 per cent in 2021, up from 30 per cent in 2016.

In his pre-Christmas rant, Mr Katter, who represents the division of Kennedy in Queensland โ€“ went on to lash former Qantas CEO Alan Joyce.

Mr Joyce quit in early September after the airline came under the spotlight over allegations of illegal ticket sales and poor service.

โ€œAs time goes on, more and more Christians will, I hope, become aware of your spite,โ€ he wrote.

โ€œSo whilst Alan Joyce (Australiaโ€™s most hated man?) may be gone, his โ€˜spiritโ€™ clearly lives on.

โ€œBut one thing for sure โ€“ his spirit โ€˜ainโ€™tโ€™ โ€œThe Spirit of Australiaโ€.

Fo?ur million passengers are expected to fly Qantas throughout the December and January holiday period.

Extraordinary tirade.

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 8:39 am
Itโ€™s Remarkable
Itโ€™s Remarkable
December 25, 2023 8:40 am

To all Catallaxians,
As a long time lurker and rare commenter, I wanted to express my thanks to you all for generally high quality commentary, opinions and information. It is great to have this site for vibrant exchange of views mostly from a conservative viewpoint. My sincere thanks to Dover for the work of keeping this site alive.
I know at times the views get expressed in strong terms and good manners can get lost and some personal slights and bickering get frustrating, but in the end some excellent commentary and a diversity of views coming from a generally conservative lens results.
I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas and happy and healthy New Year. I suspect it will be filled with a mix of madness, difficulties, frustrations and crazy politics, but that good will and sense can come through and prevail in the end – perhaps a nostalgic and niaive hope, but one needs hope.
Best wishes to all who frequent, comment and lurk here. Enjoy the day!

vr
vr
December 25, 2023 8:40 am

Merry Christmas!!

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 8:40 am

This weather -grey and wet always reminds me of the first movement of Brahms’ violin concerto. It saddens me greatly that Germany is trying to destroy itself.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 8:41 am

More interesting developments in renewables (spit).

Stop wind farm โ€˜free-for-allโ€™: Brown (Paywallian, 22 Dec)

Bob Brown has turned on sections of the wind industry, accusing some developers of โ€œprofiteeringโ€ from climate change and not caring about the planet, while warning the wind rush risks accelerating extinctions.

Federal Judge Sides with Osage Nation, Orders Removal Of 84 Wind Turbines (23 Dec)

The Osage Nation won a massive ruling in Tulsa federal court on Wednesday that requires Enel to dismantle a 150-megawatt wind project it built in Osage County despite the tribeโ€™s repeated objections. The tribeโ€™s fight against Rome-based Enel began in 2011 and is the longest-running legal battle over wind energy in American history.

Judge Choe-Gravesโ€™ decision is a huge win for tribal members like Tommy Daniels, who have long pushed for the removal of the wind turbines. โ€œIf I had the power, boom!, theyโ€™d be gone,โ€ Daniels said in an interview I did with him last year in Fairfax. Daniels is one of the last full-blood Osages. The wind project โ€œkills birds, like eagles, I donโ€™t like that,โ€ he added.

Bob Brown has also been concerned about eagle deaths from the Robbins Island project, which he has been opposing. All in all it’s nice to see this issue starting to be taken seriously, since the hypocrisy of the windmill proponents has been gob smacking. If they got fined for bird deaths the way oil companies do the entire wind industry would be ended overnight. Whereas oil companies have been cleaning up their acts there’s no way to stop the carnage either, the problem is inherent in wind turbine technology.

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 8:41 am

Speaking of Germans, it really surprised me to find out how Deutsch western Vicco is!

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 8:44 am

Dr. John Campbell

Dr Clare Craig, Part 3

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 25, 2023 8:54 am

Merry Christmas from the Diogenes Family. We got our Christmas over and done with last night , the German tradition, and the kids are spending the day with the DiL’s family today.

Our Christmas lunch will be spent with other “strays” in the village by the pool as it will be a balmy 31 here today.

Roger
Roger
December 25, 2023 8:57 am

Maybe a teaspoon or two of Dijon Mustard.

Speaking of which, whatever happened to the great Dijon mustard shortage of 2023?

I kept a close eye on stocks at my local grocer and they never dipped.

Did the French honour export contracts over domestic suppliers perhaps?

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 8:58 am

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-says-army-will-soon-end-ground-operation-3rd-phase-war

“The Israeli army is preparing to move to the third phase of the fighting in Gaza in the coming weeks,” the Israeli broadcaster said. This is to involve “ending the ground operation in the Strip, reducing forces, and demobilizing reserve forces.”

If this is true, then as predicted, Hamas will have won by outlasting the will of Israel. It will still exist in Gaza, which is the definition of victory for insurgents, and Israel will have ‘gone home’ which is the definition of failure for governments.

And what will have been achieved? – Massive destruction and death in gaza, which will have birthed many more insurgents, and a concomitant drawdown of Israeli good will around the world.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 25, 2023 9:00 am

So this current deluge is the last one and it’s never going to rain again.
Right?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 9:00 am

In a written complaint against the airline, the independent MP said he was angered to hear no holiday music with faith-based messages while sitting in a Qantas Club during a flight delay.

Not surprising really since Qantas is fully woke. There’s less and less tolerance of Christianity by progressives.

Carry On Carolling! Why Bizarre Warnings About Christmas Customs Should Be Ignored (25 Dec)

In November 2017, a CBS News story began with, โ€œChristmas music may take mental toll, psychologist says.โ€ Within days, a Fox News report echoed, “Christmas music is bad for your mental health, British psychologist says.โ€

The same irrational warnings have been repeated year after year. In 2019, a Fox 32 Chicago headline read, โ€œChristmas music can negatively impact your mental health, psychologist suggests.โ€ … A January 2022 Psychology Today column by London-based psychiatric consultant Rafa Eufa led with: โ€œChristmas Is Over. What a Relief!

Itโ€™s clear that Christian customs have become less welcome in the public square, and the left has developed a particular dislike for the celebration of Christmas.

Well if you don’t like Christmas, woke peoples, all I can say that I detest Lenin’s Birthday oops Earth Day likewise. And that wretched stuff is being shoved down our throats every single day of the year, not just one day of it.

will
will
December 25, 2023 9:01 am

will have birthed many more insurgents,

so all those peaceable happy moslems will turn into murderers, torturers and rapists?

ya think?

Indolent
Indolent
December 25, 2023 9:05 am
Roger
Roger
December 25, 2023 9:05 am

Speaking of Germans, it really surprised me to find out how Deutsch western Vicco is!

A lot of Sorbs and Wends settled there – Germanised West Slavs.

Frank
Frank
December 25, 2023 9:05 am

Did the French honour export contracts [Dijon] over domestic suppliers perhaps?

Made in China.

macbeth
macbeth
December 25, 2023 9:06 am

Dull, cold and wet here in the wilderness of outer Melbistan – who cares. Perfect for mulled wine.
Merry Christmas to all.

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 9:10 am

Thanks Roger- fascinating

Roger
Roger
December 25, 2023 9:10 am

Did the French honour export contracts [Dijon] over domestic suppliers perhaps?

Made in China.

Not on my shelf, it isn’t.

Vicki
Vicki
December 25, 2023 9:11 am

A short moment between basting the ham we are taking to daughterโ€™s Christmas lunch to wish everyone a happy day.

We are graced to have been invited (after the tempestuous family year) to a family gathering. At the last moment grandson, who had bizarre reasons for not coming, IS coming, and we are thrilled.

I feel, in my bones, that this is a very significant Christmas for the world. I am strangely emotional – probably the echoes of 7 October & Gaza. It is indeed a time to look within and reaffirm the values the birth of that Jewish baby brought to the world.

God bless.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 9:11 am

If this is true, then as predicted, Hamas will have won by outlasting the will of Israel.

Here you go Dr Duk:

IDF General: ‘The war will take several more months’ (24 Dec)

General Eliezer Toledano warned the Cabinet today that the war against Hamas is far from over.

I think he’s also understating for political reasons, since the IDF and the war cabinet have said several times they expect the war to continue for a year. It sounds like the second phase will be over when effective resistance ceases. Then the third phase will entail destroying every bit of Hamas infrastructure. They’ve been having fun lately filling the bigger tunnels with explosives then detonating them.

Watch: How the IDF destroyed the tunnel network in Hamas’ ‘Elite Quarter’ (21 Dec)

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
December 25, 2023 9:11 am

Merry Christmas to all the cats, kittehs and lurkers. Hope Santa brought you everything you wanted.

Special thanks to Dover for maintaining the blog, and to Tom for the cartoons.

Cassie of Sydney
December 25, 2023 9:16 am

Merry Christmas everyone.

Roger
Roger
December 25, 2023 9:17 am

Thanks Roger- fascinating

If you ever drive around the district to the south and east of Hamilton – and beautiful country it is – you might notice that many of the road names have a Slavic rather than German origin, presumably named for the farmer who originally settled there.

Chris
Chris
December 25, 2023 9:17 am

Merry Christmas all!
Here in the salt mines its odd to hear the radios being used for Merry Xmas-ing the workmates on haul trucks and diggers. And most of the voices are female.

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 9:20 am

will have birthed many more insurgents,

so all those peaceable happy moslems will turn into murderers, torturers and rapists?

ya think?

That’s right, will. They were going to be birthed, anyway. It’s the Pallie way.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 25, 2023 9:22 am

East of Hamilton earmarked by our overlords as a zone for wind and solar.
Keep the beauty in your memory.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 25, 2023 9:25 am

Not looking good for the Boxing Day Test. 35oC and sunny in Perf today. Time for a conversation about moving it. Sydney too.

Cassie of Sydney
December 25, 2023 9:26 am

Bibi has uploaded this Christmas message to Christians..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDez7MEwNCU

Here’s my message to the doomsdayers, to the naysayers, and to the Jew haters, Israel and the Jewish people will prevail.

Roger
Roger
December 25, 2023 9:27 am

East of Hamilton earmarked by our overlords as a zone for wind and solar.
Keep the beauty in your memory.

Environmental vandalism of the highest order.

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 9:33 am

Regional Vicco is lovely- many fine towns and gorgeous countryside. Love driving on the Glenelg Hwy to Hamilton and Casterton. Kelpie muster at Casterton is highly recommended. Glenelg Hwy is in poor condition due no doubt to the malicious incompetence of the degenerate government in Melbourne. Reluctantly coming to the conclusion that the Melb CBD is a lost cause.

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 9:36 am
miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 9:37 am

Yes I’ve seen that shitty solar ‘farm’ at Glenrowan. Waste of good land. We need to be rid of our garbage political class.

Chris
Chris
December 25, 2023 9:38 am

ABC Perth office vandalised by pro-Palestine activist after Antoinette Lattouf sacking
ABC Radioโ€™s Perth headquarters has been vandalised by a pro-Palestine activist after the shock axing of presenter Antoinette Lattouf.

Pogria
Pogria
December 25, 2023 9:38 am

To me, it isn’t Christmas until I have played The Twelve Days of Christmas at least twelve times!

Cassie of Sydney
December 25, 2023 9:42 am

Antoinette Lattouf

Get it right, it’s “Latosh”. And what a skank she is.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 25, 2023 9:44 am

MH370 location suggested in what looks to be a well-researched report:

The 229-page report suggested the missing wreckage could be located about 1560km west of Perth, and was based off โ€œgroundbreakingโ€ radio technology.

Researchers Richard Godfrey, Dr Hannes Coetzee, and Professor Simon Maskell used weak signal propagation reporter or WSPR, to track the plane.

Daily Tele

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 25, 2023 9:45 am

To me, it isnโ€™t Christmas until I have played The Twelve Days of Christmas at least twelve times!

Or the Penelope Keith version https://youtu.be/DD34J0uO5QU?feature=shared

Or me losing it at least once when I hear “Im dreaming of a white Christmas” (long story, short version, every third song on Muzak at work for all of December)

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 9:45 am

These Marxist reporterettes can’t be normal- so briming with hate, contempt and spite. BPD maybe?

Roger
Roger
December 25, 2023 9:46 am

Vicco , whatโ€™s left after the windzones are built out?

A greater Melbourne bursting to the seams with migrants and third world infrastructure to make them feel at home.

Pogria
Pogria
December 25, 2023 9:46 am

Cassie,
to me, the only Israeli to be in charge at this time is Benjamin Netanyahu. I sincerely believe that, if he hadn’t been Prime Minister at this time, the offensive would have fizzled by now.

I don’t mean to bring down the tone today, but I hope we can say a prayer for Ariel and Kfir Bibas and their mum. And all the those still to come home.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 25, 2023 9:51 am

Grandson has an eye for a bargain. After Christmas last year, he picked up packets of 8 Christmas crackers for the vast cost of $0.05 each!

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 25, 2023 9:53 am

That’s per packet, not the individual items.

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 9:54 am

A greater Melbourne bursting to the seams with migrants and third world infrastructure to make them feel at home.

Yes indeed Roger.

I’m retiring in a couple of years and intend to resettle somewhere in the Vic countryside so finding a pretty, peaceful yet well situated (to decent facilities) locale is my mission. That map helps narrow it down somewhat.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 9:55 am

Then the third phase will entail destroying every bit of Hamas infrastructure. Theyโ€™ve been having fun lately filling the bigger tunnels with explosives then detonating them.

1) Insurgents don’t need ‘infrastructure’ in the same was as they dont need logistics or victories on the battlefield – you cant destroy them by taking their capitals or their cities – their centre of gravity is the people, not the buildings.
2) Blowing up tunnels or even whole cities does not eliminate the defensive assets of Hamas – it simply creates more rubble which is itself excellent defensive terrain. Refer Stalingrad, Monte Cassino, Faluja etc etc etc

Cassie of Sydney
December 25, 2023 9:56 am

to me, the only Israeli to be in charge at this time is Benjamin Netanyahu. I sincerely believe that, if he hadnโ€™t been Prime Minister at this time, the offensive would have fizzled by now.

Yes, although this has aged him.

I donโ€™t mean to bring down the tone today, but I hope we can say a prayer for Ariel and Kfir Bibas and their mum. And all the those still to come home.

Pogs, you’re not lowering any tone. Please all pray, and let’s pray for the Christians across the globe who are also being raped, slaughtered and kidnapped by Muslim scum. This war against the Jews is also a war against Christians. As for the hostages in Gaza, I think they’re dead. Israel knows this, otherwise they’d still be negotiating. Only this morning I saw a report on the Oz website that the IDF have found four dead hostages in a Gazan tunnel.

I cry. May their memories be a blessing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 25, 2023 10:05 am

Milton at 9:33.
You tryin’ to dox me?
How dare you!
๐Ÿ™‚

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 25, 2023 10:08 am

To all those budding pali insurgents, form an orderly queue to the left, the IDF will get to you shortly as they’ve run out of raisins. The 72 raisin packaging factory was closed for Hanukkah and someone forgot to order more. Do not worry needlessly as we have some coming from Iran, they didn’t want you to miss out failing life once again. These will be provided free of charge instead of rockets.

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 10:10 am

Insurgents donโ€™t need โ€˜infrastructureโ€™

The Pallies will be occupied getting water, sewage and utilities as well as places to live for their families.Knowing exactly what will happen to them and theirs if they keep allowing Hamas to terrorise Israel.

Refer Stalingrad, Monte Cassino, Faluja etc

You are seriously over egging it. Hamas is not the Red Army or the Wehrmacht.

vr
vr
December 25, 2023 10:15 am

Written in 1949 by Vermont Royster this is posted to WSJ’s opinion pages every year.


In Hoc Anno Domini

When Saul of Tarsus set out on his journey to Damascus the whole of the known world lay in bondage. There was one state, and it was Rome. There was one master for it all, and he was Tiberius Caesar.

Everywhere there was civil order, for the arm of the Roman law was long. Everywhere there was stability, in government and in society, for the centurions saw that it was so.

But everywhere there was something else, too. There was oppressionโ€”for those who were not the friends of Tiberius Caesar. There was the tax gatherer to take the grain from the fields and the flax from the spindle to feed the legions or to fill the hungry treasury from which divine Caesar gave largess to the people. There was the impressor to find recruits for the circuses. There were executioners to quiet those whom the Emperor proscribed. What was a man for but to serve Caesar?

There was the persecution of men who dared think differently, who heard strange voices or read strange manuscripts. There was enslavement of men whose tribes came not from Rome, disdain for those who did not have the familiar visage. And most of all, there was everywhere a contempt for human life. What, to the strong, was one man more or less in a crowded world?

Then, of a sudden, there was a light in the world, and a man from Galilee saying, Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesarโ€™s and unto God the things that are Godโ€™s.

And the voice from Galilee, which would defy Caesar, offered a new Kingdom in which each man could walk upright and bow to none but his God. Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. And he sent this gospel of the Kingdom of Man into the uttermost ends of the earth.

So the light came into the world and the men who lived in darkness were afraid, and they tried to lower a curtain so that man would still believe salvation lay with the leaders.

But it came to pass for a while in divers places that the truth did set man free, although the men of darkness were offended and they tried to put out the light. The voice said, Haste ye. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come upon you, for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.

Along the road to Damascus the light shone brightly. But afterward Paul of Tarsus, too, was sore afraid. He feared that other Caesars, other prophets, might one day persuade men that man was nothing save a servant unto them, that men might yield up their birthright from God for pottage and walk no more in freedom.

Then might it come to pass that darkness would settle again over the lands and there would be a burning of books and men would think only of what they should eat and what they should wear, and would give heed only to new Caesars and to false prophets. Then might it come to pass that men would not look upward to see even a winterโ€™s star in the East, and once more, there would be no light at all in the darkness.

And so Paul, the apostle of the Son of Man, spoke to his brethren, the Galatians, the words he would have us remember afterward in each of the years of his Lord:

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ has made us free and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 25, 2023 10:25 am

Santa brought 100mm from yesterday arvo until just now. Still raining but the radar looks more hopeful to the west.
Poor old Mum is expecting us at the hostel for lunch but the roads are closing fast. Weโ€™re checking out another route now as our usual road is too far under.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 25, 2023 10:26 am

Cassie, I saw a leftist protester in Israel calling for peace and blaming Bibi for all this mess. No doubt she has lost no one to the scum hamas. I really couldn’t believe it. I’ve refused to look at any of the videos of the atrocities for my own sanity. Did this woman refuse to believe all the evidence? How can people like this exist. Do they not realise how close they are to islam ideology. These people are as dangerous as they are amongst us. Have they not heard of “Never Again”? Israel will prevail.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 25, 2023 10:33 am

No doubt she has lost no one to the scum hamas.

Yes. Unlike Bibi.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 25, 2023 10:34 am

Merry Christmas to all here with special thanks to Dover and Tom.

A great place for different views and updates on the latest news from many sources.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 25, 2023 10:36 am

Merry Christmas FlashCatters.

Tartaria sends its blessings.

Roger
Roger
December 25, 2023 10:37 am

Iโ€™m retiring in a couple of years and intend to resettle somewhere in the Vic countryside so finding a pretty, peaceful yet well situated (to decent facilities) locale is my mission.

That’s just the ticket, Makka.

All the best in that endeavour!

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 10:37 am

Oops. Don’t want to be persona non greta Sanchez

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 10:41 am

Cheers Roger.

Christine
Christine
December 25, 2023 10:46 am

Merry Christmas!

But it’s a different Christmas this year.
I’m adding my name to the many who’ll heed Cassie’s request for prayers
for the Jewish people. I hope it will be of some consolation to her.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 10:59 am

You are seriously over egging it. Hamas is not the Red Army or the Wehrmacht.

Correct, Hamas is better compared to the Taliban, or Viet Cong, both of which defeated modern mechanised armies by outlasting them, irrespective of the amount of destruction wrought by their (largely) US opponents……

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 11:03 am

The Pallies will be occupied getting water, sewage and utilities as well as places to live for their families.Knowing exactly what will happen to them and theirs if they keep allowing Hamas to terrorise Israel.

World public opinion will not allow the Gazans to be starved for much longer – the advent of ‘real time’ TV coverage with the Vietnam war brought the ugly images of war into the living rooms of the West, and they lack the stomach for it.

Cassie of Sydney
December 25, 2023 11:06 am

Cassie, I saw a leftist protester in Israel calling for peace and blaming Bibi for all this mess.

I think this says it it all, a protester in Israel is free to protest and blame Bibi and not be arrested or killed. Why? Because Israel allows free speech.

Now, who reckons if a Palestinian protester stood in Gaza C, and exercised his/her free speech to rightly blame Hamas for what is happening, and then not face immediate execution?

JC
JC
December 25, 2023 11:07 am

Merry Christmas all.

Sorry to be talking about money on a day like this, but..

Dot fyi Stake organizes W8 BEN form for US dividends.

Withholding tax
There is a 30% withholding tax on dividend payments in the U.S. This is reduced to 15% after the completion of a W-8BEN form, which Stake arranges on your behalf when you make your first deposit on Stake Wall St.

Milton, are you saying foreign dividends are taxed at 15% if one fills in a W8? I never much bothered with that because, if you make the claim through a W8, you will be slugged here, in Australia, for the difference as the corporate tax rate is the same rate. It adds to accounting cost complexity, and money wise, it’s the same slug. I just let them hit me with the 30% slug at the source – the US. Cry a little and be done with it.

Am I missing something though, because under IRS rules, at least as far as I know, you can go back several years to apply for an adjustment?

Cassie of Sydney
December 25, 2023 11:07 am

Au contraire, I think most ordinary people in the West have the stomach for it. Because they know the truth.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 25, 2023 11:10 am

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Hope you all have a lovely day.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 25, 2023 11:12 am

FFS, fired up BBQ and down she comes. Red and yellow blob over the whole of the district. Memories of cyclone Tash on Christmas day coming back.

Mass held in the old church this morning, no AC and ceiling cyclones at full blast.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 25, 2023 11:13 am

It Seemed Like A Good Idea At The Time News (the Courier-Mail):

Friends star Matthew Perry once glued his hands to his knees in a bid to stop taking more drugs, an ex revealed.

And (from the aforementioned ex):

โ€œHe had been getting high all night on a plethora of drugs, most likely crack cocaine and other substances.

โ€œI found Matthew on the couch with his hands superglued to his legs – it was desperately sad. I had to use nail polish remover and olive oil to free him.โ€

These are the people who demand to be listened to on matters of geopolitics and climate.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 25, 2023 11:15 am

Rufus – 17/6
Thank you for your educational comment re solar and wind. I looked up SF6 and from what I read it seems to be a useful and harmless compound.
There was one article which stated it traps more carbon in the atmosphere than fossil fuels.
From what I can remember 3200 parts per million as opposed to a few hundred parts per million for fossil fuels.
Please educate me further.

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 11:15 am

Milton, are you saying foreign dividends are taxed at 15% if one fills in a W8?

That’s correct JC- the W8 gives you more money in your hand and right away. I deal with the ATO later on.

Am I missing something though, because under IRS rules, at least as far as I know, you can go back several years to apply for an adjustment? Not too sure JC- I’m a bit of a neophyte. Some of those US corps pay good dividends- I know that much. I’ve thought about just letting the IRS take 30% but I reckon having more cash to hand is better and worry about the ATO later on.

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 11:15 am

Hamas is better compared to the Taliban, or Viet Cong

Not really. Hamas has enraged an Israel that is fighting for it’s existence on home ground with almost total citizenry support. Entirely different from the US involved conflicts in Afghanistan or Vietnam.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 25, 2023 11:17 am

Dover – beautiful family portrait.
Next time you are speaking to the artist could you also him to clothe the infant in a crows gurnsey – thanks

Robert Sewell
December 25, 2023 11:18 am

Barking Toad

Dec 25, 2023 1:43 AM
โ€œThe chorus of boos tells them loud and clear theyโ€™re not wanted.โ€

But how were they even allowed to get near the stage? Compromised security hamas supporters?

Look at the first names of the security contractors in Australia, and you’ll work out who they work for, then look at the weapons registry and you’ll find out we’re all outnumbered in the arms department.
It almost looks deliberate.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 25, 2023 11:18 am

BTW Katter is treated like that old uncle who doesn’t care what he says and sometimes is bang on. Has quite a lot of support north of Mackay and west to the NT border.

Be interesting who he is having a shot at, Townsville or Brisbane Qantas club. Bet my best it’s not up here, our club is quite small, one of the better lounges IMO and any of us frequent flyers are known to staff.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 25, 2023 11:19 am

Nowadays the road to Damascus is filled with ex politicians. Unless they can find a spot at the UN.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
December 25, 2023 11:20 am

Wolfman
As you are a soccer fan _ Leeds 4 Ipswich 0
I penned an original ditty – let me know if itโ€™s got legs –
Jingle bells jingle bells zip switch blown away oh what fun it is to watch Leeds United play – ole

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 25, 2023 11:22 am

Rufus โ€“ 17/6
Thank you for your educational comment re solar and wind. I looked up SF6 and from what I read it seems to be a useful and harmless compound.
There was one article which stated it traps more carbon in the atmosphere than fossil fuels.
From what I can remember 3200 parts per million as opposed to a few hundred parts per million for fossil fuels.
Please educate me further.

From what I remember during my apprenticeship, we were given classes on it where they told us that it was an inert gas that is heavier than air.
We use it in gas insulated switchgear (GIS)

It was also amusing when they tried to tell us that an inert gas that is heavier than air is somehow destroying the ozone layer…

The gas itself is no issue.
The breakdown of the gas due to circuit breaker operation is what releases all manner of nasty gases that are damaging to the environment.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 11:22 am

Not really. Hamas has enraged an Israel that is fighting for itโ€™s existence on home ground with almost total citizenry support. Entirely different from the US involved conflicts in Afghanistan or Vietnam.

Gaza hasn’t been ‘home ground’ for Israel for nearly 20 years. The current operations against Hamas are taking place *in* Gaza. The IDF is starting to make noises about transitioning to a ‘new phase’ of the war which will involve the end of ground operations in Gaza – aka they will leave Gaza – and Hamas will still exist. This is the very definition of success for Hamas and failure for Israel.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 25, 2023 11:24 am

My first Christmas message is from an online drinks provider. Make of that what you will.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 11:25 am

BTW Katter is treated like that old uncle who doesnโ€™t care what he says and sometimes is bang on.

My brother from another mother then ๐Ÿ˜‰

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 11:25 am

World public opinion will not allow the Gazans to be starved for much longer โ€“

I think those that lead Govts are getting tired of the perennial Palli problem. I see now EU leaders (who hold purse strings for Gazan support) are now openly stating Hamas can no longer govern Gaza and advocating for their exile somewhere.

The Hamas barbarity of Oct 7th is cutting through the Palli bs at the level where money for Gaza is decided.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 25, 2023 11:27 am

Siemens info on SF6

They’re trying to move away from it because of regulations changing.

SF6 itself is fine, it’s by-products, not so much.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 11:29 am

World public opinion will not allow the Gazans to be starved for much longer

Duk – There appears to be a rising sense of apathy about the Gazans, which I’ve been feeling from the lack of coverage. Even the pro-Hamas protests feel limper than they have been.

Some aid has been getting in, and even though Hamas has been stealing a lot of it Israel is allowing it. Likewise Egypt.

The crunch is the request overnight from the IDF for the Egyptian Army to move back from the border so that the IDF can take and establish a buffer zone at the Gaza-Egypt border. We’ll see if Egypt cooperates. I suspect they will since Sisi is no friend of the Muslim Brotherhood. So long as the Gazans aren’t evicted from Gaza in his direction I think Egypt will continue to quietly support the IDF’s strategic operational plans.

So I am not seeing any real pressure against the Israelis. It’s all for show (eg. in the UN). We’ll see if the Iranians back off from their current brinkmanship in the Arabian and Red Seas. They seem peeved no one is supporting Hamas much (without their arms being twisted eg the Houthis).

Indeed Blinken yesterday was wondering why no one in the MSM is calling on Hamas to surrender. That’s quite an insight into what the WH Administration is thinking. They probably regard the feral left as unhelpful for their 2024 plans, which it is.

JC
JC
December 25, 2023 11:32 am

Thanks Milt

The stuff I have in the US is in a foreign entity with a balance date of 31 Dec. Okay, I got advice on this crap over a decade ago and tax wise, it’s been running on autopilot ever since. From memory, I was told to just get slugged at the 30% rate in the US, and not mess around with the a W8 because I would then have to pay the ATO the difference. The US needs the money more anyway. ๐Ÿ™‚ We also receive social security, which is also slugged at 30% I think because we’re foreigners for US tax purposes.

Everywhere you turn, there’s a ATO/IRS baseball bat.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 25, 2023 11:37 am

flyingduk

“Gaza hasnโ€™t been โ€˜home groundโ€™ for Israel for nearly 20 years.”

Where this started on 7October is “home ground”. Perhaps a declaratory policy that “no prisoners” will be taken on Israeli territory would be a start, and another of immediate bombing of rocket launch sites in Gaza Strip or West Bank?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 25, 2023 11:38 am

Farmer Gez

Dec 25, 2023 10:25 AM

Santa brought 100mm from yesterday arvo until just now.

We are in Siddy right now but just checked the gauge at our place, which is somewhat to the South.
Half an inch in the old money, which is classified as a “Nice drop”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 25, 2023 11:39 am

Katter bitching about Qantas.
Has he sent back his Chairman’s Lounge membership in protest?

Pogria
Pogria
December 25, 2023 11:41 am

I think it was on the previous thread, someone asked if Norad was still tracking Santa every year.
This is how it began.

Makka
Makka
December 25, 2023 11:44 am

The IDF is starting to make noises about transitioning to a โ€˜new phaseโ€™ of the war which will involve the end of ground operations in Gaza โ€“ aka they will leave Gaza

You don’t know a) what the “new phase” looks like b) If the IDF will leave Gaza c) if the IDF will really cease ground ops. The IDF could be transitioning to anything , conceivably including setting up garrisons in Gaza and operating some kind of policing action. It’s all speculation for now.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 25, 2023 11:49 am

Any Qantas Lounge that doesn’t play Kevin Bloody Wilson’s Santa Claus song should be forced to open to the public!

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 11:51 am

miltonf
Dec 25, 2023 8:18 AM
At least the powerโ€™s still on here- been thinking about a backup lead-acid battery + inverter

I did the sums, a home genny and transfer switch is still the best solution – till they ban it…

JC
JC
December 25, 2023 11:53 am
bons
December 25, 2023 11:56 am

Lovely Christmas scenes, the only Granddaughter in tears having received her eventing saddle. Great photos.

She is not at home so she can’t disappear to the stables and will have to undertake the non-teenage approved activity of socialising with olds.

Her Dad who, unlike the rest of the family, is not at all keen on matters horsey, is exasperated. A doll would have been his ideal gift. You don’t have to drive dolls to poney club and they never go to the vet. A little/lot bubbly called for methinks.

Punish your kids by spoiling the grandkids.

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 12:02 pm

Everywhere you turn, thereโ€™s a ATO/IRS baseball bat.

Too damn right- two organisations I try to have as little to do with as possible

bons
December 25, 2023 12:02 pm

JC

That photo of the carrier battle group is simply breathtaking.

Not Miss Vlaardingerbroek level breathtaking, but certainly up there.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 12:02 pm

You donโ€™t know a) what the โ€œnew phaseโ€ looks like b) If the IDF will leave Gaza c) if the IDF will really cease ground ops. The IDF could be transitioning to anything , conceivably including setting up garrisons in Gaza and operating some kind of policing action. Itโ€™s all speculation for now.

Correct, which is why I prefaced my response (to a comment attributed to an IDF source) with ‘if this is true…..’

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 12:05 pm

Hamas not getting much brotherly lurve.

Hezbollah withdraws Radwan force from Israeli border in fear of attack – report (24 Dec)

At least 123 Hezbollah terrorists have been killed by IDF precision strikes along the Lebanese border in two months, the terrorist organization said on Saturday.

It is not clear if this withdrawal of forces is temporary or permanent, Israeli defense establishment officials told Walla!, adding that they believe the withdrawal was carried out with the intention of limiting the number of casualties among the Radwan special forces.

The Radwan is seen by Hezbollah’s leadership, chiefly director-general Hassan Nasrallah, as a valuable strategic asset, as per the sources.

Probably helped by the IDF and Netanyahu gently suggesting this week, again, that Beirut might not like to end up looking like Gaza. It was also amusing that Biden allegedly pressured Israel not to go full beast-mode on the Hezbies. I don’t think they ever planned to since a two front war isn’t want you want, but it would’ve added to the pressure on the Hezbies, since the IDF has a nice chunky force just over the border ready to go.

flyingduk
flyingduk
December 25, 2023 12:06 pm

Lovely Christmas scenes, the only Granddaughter in tears having received her eventing saddle. Great photos.

Ha! My daughters present from Santa was a 4mx2m wooden ramp thingy I made to help her train horses to float. It will need a tractor and truck to move it.

Her Dad who, unlike the rest of the family, is not at all keen on matters horsey, is exasperated.

Her Dad, like me, needs to admit he has been bested by forces of the universe stronger than he….

rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 12:08 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 25, 2023 12:08 pm

Cool, wettish day in Canberra. Threatening thunderstorms.

Not the best day for cold beer. But, being Christmas. there”ll be plenty of stronger stuff.

Puppy has been walked, presents opened, time to get into the drink.

Again, Merry Christmas Cats & Kittehs.

Chris
Chris
December 25, 2023 12:15 pm

Her Dad who, unlike the rest of the family, is not at all keen on matters horsey, is exasperated.

Our daughter was keen on horses. She got her fix at Riding for the Disabled, including volunteering as a leader. Her older cousin coopted the mother for ten years of 5am starts, feeding and exercising their own critters in the middle of the city. I made it clear from a very young age that her own horse was a luxury we would not indulge.

She turned out damn fine, by the way! But the older cousin has made a career in horses, many years of study and many years of her own business. She was recently out rescuing ‘orses in front of the bushfires.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
December 25, 2023 12:20 pm

Christmas mass this morning kicked off with an acknowledgment of country. No better way to celebrate the birth of our Lord and Saviour with a dash of rank paganism. Will return to my regular church which avoids this stuff.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 12:22 pm

good news for Christmas

Wow, that’s breathtaking. And if it’s true it means Israel has won a huge strategic victory.

And if that does happen the same terms will next be demanded of Gaza, once the rubble stops bouncing.

rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 12:22 pm

who reckons if a Palestinian protester stood in Gaza C, and exercised his/her free speech to rightly blame Hamas for what is happening, and then not face immediate execution?

A quite famous gazan with iirc 17 million followers on instagram has suggested that despite his hatred for israel they have to learn to live with them.
Getting called everything under the sun by everyone not eating half a meal a day for the last 77 .

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 25, 2023 12:22 pm

rosie
Dec 25, 2023 12:08 PM

good news for Christmas

Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have reportedly told the President of Palestine, Mahmoud Abbas that he must Resign as President and Dissolve the current Government in order to Appoint a Saudi and UAE-Approved Government, or else they will Halt all further Financial Aid to the Palestinian Territories.

Yesterday I wrote this on a Speccie comment about a possible government of Gaza

A castling move – bring in Mohammed Dahlan from the UAE, with government technicians also from UAE, which has been enjoying the relationship with Israel under the Abraham Accords.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 25, 2023 12:23 pm

Voice referendum a loss for the people, not me: Anthony Albanese.

By jess malcolm
Reporter
12:03PM December 25, 2023
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Anthony Albanese has denied that the voice referendum was a political loss for him, declaring it was about Aboriginal people and not politicians.

Speaking about his tumultuous year in a Christmas Day interview on 2GB radio, the Prime Minister said his best achievement this year was to provide cost of living relief for Australians.

When asked about the referendum loss, Mr Albanese rejected the interviewerโ€™s assertion that it was a loss for him and his government.

โ€œOh no, no, no, very important, good to call that out,โ€ Mr Albanese said. โ€œIโ€™m not indigenous so it wasnโ€™t a loss to me, that stays exactly the same way it is.

โ€œI do think that it was disappointing for First Nations people but theyโ€™re used to โ€ฆ hardship. Itโ€™s been the case for 200 years, and they are resilient and we will continue to do what we can to provide for closing the gap.

โ€œItโ€™s one of the things about this debate, it was never about politicians, it was actually about the most disadvantaged people in our society.โ€

Mr Albanese emphasised Laborโ€™s $23bn cost of living package, seeking to downplay the volume of his overseas travel.

He said his government understood the economic pressures facing Australians including soaring inflation.

โ€œI think the work that we did on the $23bn was spent on cost of living relief. So cheaper childcare, cheaper medicines that people are getting urgent care clinics,โ€ Mr Albanese said.

Mr Albanese also denied he tasted a $500 bottle of wine while on holiday in West Australia with his partner Jodie Haydon last week.

He said the pair were drinking the same wine as everybody else.

โ€œWe paid our own, flew over commercially, stayed in a place, went to Coles on the way and got stuff for lunch โ€ฆ and we went wine tasting as everyone else does,โ€ Mr Albanese said.

Mr Albanese revealed he received a telescope, some records and a Cold Chisel box set for Christmas and gifted his partner Jodie Hayden jewellery.

He explained the telescope electronically finds where certain stars are in the sky.

โ€œWe havenโ€™t set it up yet but itโ€™s got a system where you can attach your phone, put into your phone where Saturn is or where a particular star is and the telescope will find it for you. How about that! Technology these days is pretty amazing,โ€ Mr Albanese said.

Mr Albanese said he purchased Ms Hayden jewellery but would not reveal what he bought his son Nathan as he has not yet given it to him.

He also said he had been texting Cold Chisel lead singer Jimmy Barnes who recently underwent open heart surgery after a bacterial infection spread to his heart.

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 12:24 pm

Lord save me from trendy clerics. Don’t they actually read the gospel? – whitey coming here actually allowed Aborigines to know Christ.

rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 12:25 pm
rosie
rosie
December 25, 2023 12:27 pm

Saudi Arabia and the UAE read the comments at the Speccie!

miltonf
miltonf
December 25, 2023 12:32 pm

So Anal and Barnsey on pvt mobile number terms. Doesn’t say much for either of them.

mareeS
mareeS
December 25, 2023 12:41 pm

Add me to the list of Christmas well-wishers. This is a great place, even for those of us who stay mostly in the background. Makes my day.

Weather report from Merewether today: sunny, humid and the water is lovely. Early swim, a celebratory champagne or three with the spouse and family, Thai prawn salad is just about ready to go on the table.

Enjoy the rest of the day, people!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 25, 2023 12:45 pm

Appoint a Saudi and UAE-Approved Government

Another thing going on is some kiss-and-make-up in Yemen.

Saudi foreign ministry welcomes roadmap to peace in Yemen (24 Dec)

Saudi Arabia’s foreign ministry welcomed a statement issued by the United Nations special envoy for Yemen regarding a roadmap to peace, the Saudi state news agency SPA reported on Sunday.

This smells like a stratagem to split the Houthis away from Iran by doing a deal over who has what in Yemen. Trimming Iran’s tentacles helps set up a deal over the PA Territories and Gaza. If it works it’ll be quite a diplomatic coup by the Saudis.

Next to see is what Iran does about all this.

Chris
Chris
December 25, 2023 12:46 pm

Weather report from Merewether

Got a friend who sings his rugby team’s song:

Merewether boys are we
Merewether boys are we
Merewether boys are we
Merewether boys are we
Merewether boys are we

Or something like that

Chris
Chris
December 25, 2023 12:51 pm

Mere-Christmas to you MareeS!

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 25, 2023 12:55 pm

Merry Christmas everybody.
Slow start here, rain has set in fully.
Flight cancellations yesterday saw us meeting a bus at 1.30 am, and we stayed up till 3am on the strength of that. All adults.
We have demolished the platter of smoked trout and salad pickings plus nuts and crackers and dip with copious champagne. Now for a tour of the drenched garden to pick zuchinni and tomatoes while the bloke prepares for tempura prawns and veg, which has been our Christmas speciality for many years now. The ambient music is Pentatonix and other light Christmas tunes. If anyone is hungry later there are lamb chops available to whack on the barbie. The butternut pumpkin and potato salad are also homegrown.
We wish blessings upon those in strife and conflict at this time, it’s hard enough keeping those beasts from our own doors at times.
Love and Peace to All.

jupes
jupes
December 25, 2023 1:04 pm

Merry Christmas to everyone on the Cat and thanks Dover.

132andBush
132andBush
December 25, 2023 1:17 pm

Merry Christmas everyone.
Spectacular drive home last night through two big storms on the Hay plains, lightning all round, heavy rain and gale force winds. Great stuff!
A breezy and cool day here as the low pressure system wraps around over the western half of Vic sending westerlies up over us.

Roast for lunch followed by large quantities of trifle, home made preserved plum pudding, and a gallon of custard.

Horsham client gave me a bottle of Roku Gin which will be sampled this evening, I’m looking forward to that.

It’s the third year in a row, thanks to early and large summer rains, I will be on the spray rig once I recover from the Christmas cheer. Then back south to see what state the remaining crops are in.

Thank you Dover for this place of (most of the time) sanity.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 25, 2023 1:38 pm

Best present so far. Two Hawaiian style shirts.

Might be a couple of kilos heavier later today.

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