Open Thread – Christmas Day 2023


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Beertruk
December 26, 2023 8:28 am

A bit more detail from the Paywallion:

Indigenous voice referendum ‘not my loss’, Anthony Albanese declares

By PAIGE TAYLOR
INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, WA BUREAU CHIEF

and JESS MALCOLM
REPORTER
26 Dec 2023

Anthony Albanese’s claim that his failed referendum was not a personal loss for him has sparked anger among top figures in the Yes campaign, with one Aboriginal leader indicating the remarks were proof white Australia would take no responsibility for the voice’s rejection.

The Prime Minister said on Monday the result was not “a loss for him” because he was not Indigenous and the debate was not about politicians.

He also said in an interview on Sydney radio 2GB that Aboriginal Australians disappointed by the referendum result were “used to hardship” and Labor would continue to work to close the gap.

Leading figures in the failed push for constitutional change immediately picked up on Mr ­Albanese’s remarks, with some claiming it as confirmation he believes the defeat belongs to them and not him despite Labor’s central role in the campaign.

At the Exodus Foundation in Sydney’s inner west on Monday while he was helping to serve Christmas Day lunch to the poor, Mr Albanese was asked about his year and “some big losses” such as the defeat of the voice at the ballot box last October.

“Oh, no, no, no, no, very important to call that out. I am not Indigenous so it wasn’t a loss to me,” the Labor leader said.

“That stays exactly the same the way it is. I do think that it was disappointing for First Nations people but they’re used to you know, getting the, they’re used to hardship. It’s been the case for 200 years, and they are resilient and we will continue to do what we can to provide for closing the gap.

“But it’s one of the things about this debate, it was never about politicians, it was actually about the most disadvantaged people in our society.”

One figure in the Yes ­campaign criticised Mr Albanese for claiming no sense of personal loss after championing the referendum, ­including in his election-night victory speech in May last year.

Another called on Labor to commission a review of the ­“referendum debacle” and the ­Albanese government’s role in it.

“Blacks did the work for seven years and Labor killed it,” one said.

Indigenous leader Sean ­Gordon, who supported the voice in an alliance with constitutional conservatives, agreed with Mr ­Albanese that Indigenous ­Australians were resilient people. Mr Gordon was a member of Mr Albanese’s referendum working group.

When asked about the Prime Minister’s assertion that the voice defeat was no loss for him, Mr Gordon replied that this was the issue for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, who comprised a small percentage of the population.

“It’s the challenge of our 3.7 per cent,” Mr Gordon said.

“Regardless of the issue or the outcome, the 96.3 per cent white Australia are able to comfortably move forward without any ownership, responsibility or accountability for the result.”

The proposal for an Indigenous advisory body with a constitutional guarantee predated Mr Albanese’s prime ministership by more than a decade. It was the subject of reports and inquiries and it was the option favoured by a clear majority of Indigenous people who took part in the Uluru Dialogues held around Australia in 2016 and 2017.

Polling showed Australians were in favour of the concept for some five years and remained in favour after Mr Albanese announced in May last year that he would take the voice question to a referendum.

Support for a constitutionally enshrined voice began to slide in the first half of 2023, after the Coalition parties’ formalised their opposition to it, but before the final words of the proposed amendment had been settled. Ultimately, 61 per cent of Australians voted no to the voice on referendum day.

On Monday, Peter Dutton described the voice as Mr Albanese’s project. “The PM was obsessed with the voice for the best part of 18 months,” the Opposition Leader said.

“ He told Australians they were “chicken littles” if they opposed it, and he needlessly divided Australians. It’s remarkable he’s now saying it wasn’t about him. The PM is distracted and not focused on the issues that matter.

“He should reflect on these comments about his pet project – the voice – and make life easier, not harder, for Australians. The PM was so obsessed with the voice and being overseas that he missed the opportunities in his two budgets to make decisions to relieve cost-of-living pressures. It’s really hurt Australians and they are feeling the pain Mr Albanese created.”

PAIGE TAYLOR INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, WA BUREAU CHIEF
Paige Taylor is from the West Australian goldmining town of Kalgoorlie and went to school all over the place including Arnhem Land in the Northern Territory and Sydney’s north shore. She has been a reporter since 1996
JESS MALCOLM REPORTER
Jess Malcolm is a political reporter in The Australian’s Canberra bureau, where she covers a range of rounds including agriculture, infrastructure and regional affairs. She won the Student Journalist of the Year 2021 Quill Awards

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 26, 2023 8:31 am

So what is Pope’s take?

. It’s the take of an ahistorical ignoramus

Makka
Makka
December 26, 2023 8:31 am

we celebrated on Christmas Eve.

Same here, a tradition we picked up while living overseas. Prezzies after a gorgeous seafood dinner. A few overseas Christmases were white – what magical experiences and something Cats with young families would thoroughly enjoy and remember forever, I’m sure.

Crossie
Crossie
December 26, 2023 8:34 am

Disrespect and disregard is a mild way of putting it.
I would think the clink for a week or so might train the thought process of the lady.
Pesutto is not the greatest but at least he spoke up. Where’s Jacinta Allen?

First, that woman is no lady. Second, Jacinta Allen is probably of the same mind as the protesters and deafening silence is more eloquent than mealy mouthed statements.

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 8:37 am

Read Pride and Prejudice first, the story should be familiar if you’ve seen any of the movie.
As for Russians again, reading something where the story line is familiar is a good way to get a toe on the water, remembering who is who with those very unfamiliar names can be disconcerting.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 8:38 am

rosie
Dec 26, 2023 8:13 AM
Is the War Really Worth all this Killing?

Great moral CLARlTY.

Thanks for this post.

Damon
Damon
December 26, 2023 8:39 am

“I was thinking I should read Jane Austen ”

Pride and Prejudice

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 26, 2023 8:41 am

I would think the clink for a week or so might train the thought process of the lady.

Not even a tune up in the police station carpark, unfortunately.

mc
mc
December 26, 2023 8:42 am

Should have been snotted along with her mate.
Or tarred and feathered as per the old days.

I don’t know why we can’t bring back the stocks. If they had of set some up at the gates of the melbourne carols, they could have put the protesters in them and let the crowd jeer them and throw left over food. Might make the useful idiots think twice about doing it again. There are not enough outlets for people to feel how far they are from genuine public sentiment any more. With the decline in public shame, policy makers are following the ‘squeaky wheels’ and weirdos.

Crossie
Crossie
December 26, 2023 8:42 am

The Prime Minister reflected on the Voice referendum in an interview with 2GB after initially leaving it out of his end-of-year recap video.

“I’m not Indigenous so it wasn’t a loss for me. It stays exactly the same way it is. I do think that it was disappointing for First Nations people but, you know, they are used to hardship … they are resilient,” he said.

Hardship after all those billions spent on indigenous welfare? Albo, why not authorise a Royal Commission into how the money is spent? Could it be because the white indigenous activists have snaffled most of the billions?

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 8:43 am

Police arrested a 21-year-old Brunswick woman over the stunt and issued her an infringement notice for carrying a box cutter, which is classified as a controlled weapon by police.

So, this skank gets an “infringement notice”. The skank commits an illegal act and in doing so the skank takes a weapon onto a stage where there are children.

I suppose this is yet more “letting off steam”, and I suppose this is yet more of the supine, spineless, craven police tactics of “monitoring the situation”. So, what will it take?

Hear this, there will be an attack on the Jewish community, not if but WHEN. This Jew does not feel safe, and don’t anyone tell me I’m engaging in hyperbole. I am not.

When will the monitoring stop? When there are corpses on a street?

I’m sorry, I’m so over this.

Happy Boxing Day. I’m not watching the cricket. I refuse to watch Jew haters.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 8:44 am

First, that woman is no lady. Second, Jacinta Allen is probably of the same mind as the protesters and deafening silence is more eloquent than mealy mouthed statements.”

Correct, I said from the beginning, she’s worse than Dan.

Crossie
Crossie
December 26, 2023 8:47 am

calli
Dec 26, 2023 7:53 AM
A “box cutter”. Now, what does that remind me of?
There’s a 22 year old reason why simple Stanley knives are now considered dangerous.
On a stage with children, too.

Earlier I thought it was sloppy security checking that the Palestinian flags were easily smuggled in. A box cutter takes it to a new level of official negligence. Is anyone going to ask Jacinta Allen to explain that?

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 8:48 am

I’m still considering that Stanley knife. Why did she have it and what was she going to do with it?

And why did they wait until there were children on stage? I wonder what type of “protest” she had auditioned in her mind only to have those two little ones firmly escorted off before she could do her thing?

All that was left was to stride over to Campbell, take the mic and scream a pathetic slogan about “children dying in Gaza”. Something was on her mind, and perhaps it was something horrible.

She’ll need to be watched. VicPol is onto it as I type. /sarc

132andBush
132andBush
December 26, 2023 8:50 am

From BB @7:21

Viewers took to social media to express their praise for Campbell’s steadfast composure.

“How well did David Campbell handle that!?! Absolute champion, calm, respectful and constantly professional. Brilliant,” one X user, formerly Twitter, wrote.

Others wrote: “Credit to David Campbell … that was first class and expertly handled. Elite work”.

“Don’t like David Campbell but just became a FAN! Handled extremely well!”.

I find it odd that the only social media comments reported on were about how well the hosts handled the situation.
Surely there was widespread condemnation of the scumbag?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 26, 2023 8:50 am
Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 8:51 am

Many thanks for posting Tim Blair in full, Beertruk.

He was a pack-a-day smoker until his recent heart attack.

I reckon the hearter has made him an even better writer.

I adore Tim Blair. He and Roger Franklin are the best and wittiest writers in Australia. National treasures.

Crossie
Crossie
December 26, 2023 8:52 am

Very much like our family, though we were very materially poor we were spiritually and culturally rich.

Those times might be long ago Pogria, bur isn’t it great that we can dip into those large deposits in the memory bank or look down memory lane and not see it empty. Merry Christmas.

Tinta, world elites and their climate change assault will guarantee future generations will have plenty of hard times to remember.

Beertruk
December 26, 2023 8:54 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Dec 25, 2023 2:22 PM

Wear the t shirt that says “Join the Army, go to exciting places, meet interesting people and kill them.”

Had that t-shirt in 1980 when I was a newly minted ARA Dig. 🙂

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 8:55 am

Could we have Persuasion and Space Aliens?

Couldn’t be any worse than the most recent Woke iteration. Dusky best girlfriends, sassy fourth wall breakage, dumb plot screw-ups.

Or perhaps that was it. I didn’t last after the first few minutes.

Crossie
Crossie
December 26, 2023 8:57 am

As an older Australian with a great interest in reading, I was thinking I should read Jane Austen (dunno why I haven’t read her yet?).

Could informed Cats suggest where I should start?

Also I have never read any Russian authors. Again, any suggestions of where I should start (War and Peace?)?

For Jane Austen, start with Pride And Prejudice. It best describes the social classes and attitudes of the Regency era.

The only Russian author I can recommend is Tolstoy, all others are completely imbued in the Russian nihilism.

Indolent
Indolent
December 26, 2023 8:59 am

We’re getting closer and closer to the nub of what this is all about. The headline says it all.

We Can’t Let Fossil Fuels Die Because They Keep Us Alive

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 9:00 am

Happy Boxing Day. I’m not watching the cricket. I refuse to watch Jew haters.

Ditto.

I won’t be watching Hamas opening.

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 9:02 am

Anna Karenina as a starting point. Depressing but lush.

There have been a few interesting dramatisations of it…I think the latest was one with Kiera Knightly as Anna. Drawn curiously as a stage play. Love it or loathe it, it’s worth a look.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 26, 2023 9:03 am

I find it odd that the only social media comments reported on were about how well the hosts handled the situation.
Surely there was widespread condemnation of the scumbag?

Lots of idiots have beclowned themselves on X by praising the scumbgs. Low hanging fruit, but a lot of them. At least they are pretty much all from the hard left, which is gratifying to know.

Indolent
Indolent
December 26, 2023 9:04 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 26, 2023 9:05 am
Indolent
Indolent
December 26, 2023 9:06 am

Trying to use police as assassins. The viciousness is off the scale.

Greene says she was swatted while at home with family on Christmas

Indolent
Indolent
December 26, 2023 9:07 am
Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
December 26, 2023 9:07 am

Campbell is a sanctimonious luvvie at the best of times (although at least we didn’t have Lisa W co-hosting this year). I would not be surprised in the least to find out the whole episode was staged.

132andBush
132andBush
December 26, 2023 9:09 am

Lots of idiots have beclowned themselves on X by praising the scumbgs. Low hanging fruit, but a lot of them. At least they are pretty much all from the hard left, which is gratifying to know.

The online propaganda, trolling and spamming of comments on most platforms over this issue is incredible.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 9:10 am

I highly recommend Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment. Also, one should read Vasily Grossman’s Life and Fate.

I am rereading The Diary of Anne Frank.

Makka
Makka
December 26, 2023 9:11 am

I would not be surprised in the least to find out the whole episode was staged.

Thinking exactly that also.

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 26, 2023 9:15 am

At a minimum,
Oct 7 saw the brutal murder of Israeli women, children, babies.

Supporters of the murderers are aiding and abetting. Murderers too.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 26, 2023 9:21 am

Albo is broken.

There are so many things that need to be addressed – cost of living, the release of sociopathic illegal immigrants whose own nations don’t want in their societies, the fact we cannot even send one naval vessel to support our major ally to whom we are bound by the newly inked AUKUS, yet we are praised by the terror group Hamas, and by the covetous thuggish ethno-state China.

Not a single thing has improved since Albo got in – except that there are fewer days remaining of his term than there were back then.

But still he wants to talk about the decomposing carcass of the stillborn Voice.

He makes me think of a Captain of a submarine in a dire situation – flooded compartments, engines down, enemy above dropping depth charges their detonations pounding against the hull – and amidst this stress the Captain retreats to his cabin, trying to hide from the danger by immersing himself in some pointless obsessive behaviour such as trying to work out other routes he might have taken to get to his destination that would not have brought him here.

Toiling away pointlessly and, with each report of a new calamity, he ramps up his frantic activity further. Wrapping himself up tight in this figurative blanket waiting for the monsters to go away.

Pogria
Pogria
December 26, 2023 9:26 am

J.J. Sefton over at Ace has coined an excellent moniker for the western filth who are basically Brides of Hamas. He calls them “Einsatz-groupies”. Fitting. He has also written what a few of us have posted here recently, “the Jews are first, then the rest.

So now the “Einsatz-groupies” who support the butchery and genocide of Jews first in Israel and ultimately the entire world are going after “the Sunday people,” for daring to celebrate Christmas while Gaza is about to be plowed under.

He then links to the Carols by Candlelight attack which, by the way has gone worldwide as quickly as the Filth Fest in front of the Opera House.

Xavier Herbert was right, “Poor Fellow my Country”.

Pogria
Pogria
December 26, 2023 9:32 am

To add to my previous comment, Cassie, Katz, Calli’s daughter and son-in-law, and grandees, and every Jewish poster here who rightfully acknowledge their pride in their Jewishness, J.J. Sefton has given we Christians an excellent name to get behind, I am a Proud Sunday Person.

As the immortal Eric Cartman is wont to say, “Take THAT! you Donkey-Raping Shiteaters!”

Hugh
Hugh
December 26, 2023 9:34 am

I highly recommend Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment.

I will second that. I enjoyed it the first time, and plan to read it again in the near future.

The Brothers Karamazov is also good, but I preferred Crime and Punishment.

War and Peace is excellent. I detect a strong influence of Homer in Tolstoy’s writing (e.g., Homeric similes and phrases) and philosophy (e.g., fatalism).

Beertruk
December 26, 2023 9:34 am

Tom
Dec 26, 2023 8:23 AM

and

Cassie of Sydney
Dec 26, 2023 8:51 AM

No worries. Im a big fan as well and Hope he writes a book one day.
I have met Tim Blair at a turnout in Sydney in sometime 2017? I think.
Bloody nice bloke.
Along with Nick Cater, Greg Sherridan, Gemma Tognini and Craig Kelly.
Craig Kelly was a bit late but he apologised and said ‘just got here after doing battle with the Marxist Collective ABC.’
Lots of applause and laughter.

Crossie
Crossie
December 26, 2023 9:35 am

He then links to the Carols by Candlelight attack which, by the way has gone worldwide as quickly as the Filth Fest in front of the Opera House.

Xavier Herbert was right, “Poor Fellow my Country”.

We are getting a certain worldwide reputation for Hamas enabling. It’s not going to end well for us.

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 9:36 am

Miss 21 from Brunswick will be some nose ringed tattooed freak from clemford country.

Pogria
Pogria
December 26, 2023 9:36 am

Mother Lode,
I reckon Elbow is more like the Captain of the Costa Concordia. Desperately looking for a lifeboat to speed him away from the shipwreck he has caused.

P
P
December 26, 2023 9:38 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
December 26, 2023 9:39 am

Happy Boxing Day. I’m not watching the cricket. I refuse to watch Jew haters

Speaking of such matters Cassie:

Usman Khawaja has taken fresh aim at the ICC for blocking his request to wear stickers of a dove with an olive branch on his bat and shoes, blasting the governing body for “double standards.”

That came after Australian captain Pat Cummins labelled Khawaja’s request as “pretty vanilla,” suggesting that he cannot see the difference between the dove and the Bible-verse and eagle adorned on teammate Marnus Labuschagne’s bat.

The ICC confirmed late on Sunday night that Khawaja’s request to wear stickers of a dove holding an olive branch as well as a reference to Article 1 of the United Nations’ Universal Declaration of Human Rights during the Boxing Day Test had been denied.

Won’t link the whole article.
Usman, the ICC have saw through your facade. Give it a spell dickweed.

Johnny Rotten
December 26, 2023 9:39 am

The Supreme Court has ruled that they cannot have a nativity scene in Washington, D.C. This wasn’t for any religious reasons. They couldn’t find three wise men and a virgin.

– Jay Leno

Hugh
Hugh
December 26, 2023 9:40 am

Also, not Russian, but another good example of nineteenth century realism is Pere Goriot. Heavily indebted to Shakespeare, as the two daughters are basically Goneril and Regan, but I thought it was well worth reading.

Pogria
Pogria
December 26, 2023 9:41 am

I thought I would add a little joy to this thread. For all the Cat-Dog Lovers here.

Doggie Christmas Tree.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 26, 2023 9:41 am

Anna Karenina as a starting point. Depressing but lush.

The Brothers Karamazov by Dostoevsky!

A favourite of Einstein and Wittgenstein I believe. Certainly one of mine.

Tom
Tom
December 26, 2023 9:42 am

Supporters of the murderers are aiding and abetting. Murderers too.

Including Hamas’s man at the MCG, Usman Khawaja, opening the batting for Australia.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 26, 2023 9:44 am

Post-Christmas day and in search of peace, something that has to be said, and is said well.. Benjamin Netanyahu’s message for Abrahamic World Peace in Gaza.
From the Wall Street Journal. Apologies if already put up elsewhere. Recent articles both local and internationally sourced in the Australian have been very firm re Israel, for which this paper is to be congratulated.

My three prerequisites for peace with Palestinians

By BENJAMIN NETANYAHU

Hamas must be destroyed, Gaza must be demilitarised, and Palestinian society must be deradicalised. These are the three prerequisites for peace between Israel and its Palestinian neighbours in Gaza.

First, Hamas, a key Iranian proxy, must be destroyed. The U.S., U.K., France, Germany and many other countries support Israel’s intention to demolish the terror group. To achieve that goal, its military capabilities must be dismantled and its political rule over Gaza must end. Hamas’s leaders have vowed to repeat the Oct. 7 massacre “again and again.” That is why their destruction is the only proportional response to prevent the repeat of such horrific atrocities. Anything less guarantees more war and more bloodshed.

In destroying Hamas, Israel will continue to act in full compliance with international law. This is especially challenging because an integral part of Hamas’s strategy is to use Palestinian civilians as human shields. Hamas places its terrorist infrastructure inside and underneath homes, hospitals, mosques, schools and other civilian sites, deliberately putting the Palestinian population at risk.

Israel does its best to minimise civilian casualties by dropping leaflets, sending text messages and using other means to warn Gazans to get out of harm’s way. Hamas by contrast does its utmost to keep Palestinians in harm’s way — often at gunpoint.

Unjustly blaming Israel for these casualties will only encourage Hamas and other terror organisations around the world to use human shields. To render this cruel and cynical strategy ineffective, the international community must place the blame for these casualties squarely on Hamas. It must recognise that Israel is fighting the bigger battle of the civilised war against barbarism.

Second, Gaza must be demilitarised. Israel must ensure that the territory is never again used as a base to attack it. Among other things, this will require establishing a temporary security zone on the perimeter of Gaza and an inspection mechanism on the border between Gaza and Egypt that meets Israel’s security needs and prevents smuggling of weapons into the territory.

The expectation that the Palestinian Authority will demilitarise Gaza is a pipe dream. It currently funds and glorifies terrorism in Judea and Samaria and educates Palestinian children to seek the destruction of Israel. Not surprisingly it has shown neither the capability nor the will to demilitarise Gaza. It failed to do so before Hamas booted it out of the territory in 2007, and it has failed to do so in the territories under its control today. For the foreseeable future Israel will have to retain overriding security responsibility over Gaza.

Third, Gaza will have to be deradicalised. Schools must teach children to cherish life rather than death, and imams must cease to preach for the murder of Jews. Palestinian civil society needs to be transformed so that its people support fighting terrorism rather than funding it.

That will likely require courageous and moral leadership. Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas can’t even bring himself to condemn the Oct. 7 atrocities. Several of his ministers deny that the murders and rapes happened or accuse Israel of perpetrating these horrific crimes against its own people. Another threatened that a similar attack would be carried out in Judea and Samaria.

Successful deradicalisation took place in Germany and Japan after the Allied victory in World War II. Today, both nations are great allies of the U.S. and promote peace, stability and prosperity in Europe and Asia.

More recently, since the 9/11 attacks, visionary Arab leaders in The Gulf have led efforts to deradicalise their societies and transform their countries. Israel has since forged the historic Abraham Accords and today enjoys peace agreements with six Arab states. Such a cultural transformation will be possible in Gaza only among Palestinians who don’t seek the destruction of Israel.

Once Hamas is destroyed, Gaza is demilitarised and Palestinian society begins a deradicalisation process, Gaza can be rebuilt and the prospects of a broader peace in the Middle East will become a reality.
Mr. Netanyahu is Israel’s prime minister.

One would suppose that Israel has some plans in place regarding how to achieve this. Personally, although many think the Netanyahu is gone post the cessation of hostilities I hope that is not so and that a man of his fortitude can oversight what is hopefully an international group working on the reconstruction and deradicalization in Gaza and the West Bank, in peace and goodwill to all.

Makka
Makka
December 26, 2023 9:45 am

Khawaja, like millions of other useful idiots worldwide, are pushing the narrative that the poor downtrodden Pallies in Gaza are not Hamas.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 9:47 am

Einsatz-groupies”

Sooooooo appropriate. I have a new name to give that rancid cockroach next time he vomits up on these pages. Without a doubt he’s lurking here, and when he vomits up I’ll call him what he really truly is, an ‘Einsatz-groupy’

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 9:47 am

Not a single thing has improved since Albo got in

Hang on.

Warner announced his impending retirement.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 9:49 am

Beertruk
Dec 26, 2023 9:34 AM

I was at that gathering.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 26, 2023 9:52 am

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Wife of Kununurra cop speaks out on not guilty verdict for 10-year-old car ramming offender
Katya MinnsBroome Advertiser
Tue, 26 December 2023 2:00AM

The wife of a Kununurra cop who was nearly hit by a stolen car full of children has expressed her frustration at the 10-year-old driver being found not guilty because he did not know it was “morally wrong”.

Relief teacher and mother-of-two Dominique Wood said she “thought (her) husband was joking” when he told her the boy had been acquitted of all charges despite driving directly at him in a stolen Toyota Prado during a dangerous police chase.

“I was very shocked to hear that there was no consequence for his actions, and he was let off,” she said.

Magistrate Michelle Ridley handed down her reasons for the not-guilty verdict on December 13, criticising police prosecution for their questioning of the boy during an interview conducted on May 8 in Kununurra.

Despite stating she was satisfied the boy had been the driver of the Prado, that he knew right from wrong and had no disabilities or cognitive issues, Magistrate Ridley concluded he did not understand the severity of his offending.

“I think her role is to ensure that justice prevails and that she actually weighs up the rights of the accused, but also keeps in mind public safety,” Ms Wood said.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 9:56 am

Khawaja, like millions of other useful idiots worldwide, are pushing the narrative that the poor downtrodden Pallies in Gaza are not Hamas

Khawaja made all these profound statements (including calling the ICC hypocrites, if you don’t mind) because he knows full well this will be his last summer in the creams on Australian soil.

He is far closer to 40 than 30, and is in all likelihood extremely thankful that his mate since childhood (Warner) has taken all the attention off the last grains of sand running out of his own hourglass.

I guarantee he would have made the decision to retire just before the start of the summer (if not before), and that’s why he’s running his trap now.

Tell you what though – I haven’t heard mention of Khawaja giving some of his considerable wealth, accumulated through his time in the game, to the Gazan kidlets he keeps banging on about.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 26, 2023 9:58 am

Warner announced his impending retirement

A worthy contender for today’s interwebs winner. Hearty congratulations

Jorge
Jorge
December 26, 2023 10:00 am

The Carols box cutter prompted a few thoughts this morning about the changes we’ve all had to suffer because of Muslim terrorists. Airport queues of course, and early arrivals. But let’s not forget that once the MCG surrounds on Boxing Day used to be an ocean of parked cars, some with iced up eskies and picnic hampers on the grass. No more.

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 10:02 am
Damon
Damon
December 26, 2023 10:04 am

Russian authors. Sholokov, the Don series; Bulgakov, Heart of a Dog. There is more than Anna Karenina and War and Peace.

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 10:05 am

falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

A perfect description of hamas

Elon musk

Tom
Tom
December 26, 2023 10:05 am

Pakistan wins the toss and elects to bat. Go, Pakis!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 10:06 am

I’ve changed my mind.

If Australia bats first, I’ll watch, hoping Hamas gets a duck.

If he gets a run, I’ll flick to the yacht race.

Wouldn’t it be sweet – run out by Warner off the first ball.

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 10:08 am

Houthis Restore Slavery in Yemen

from 2018

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 10:08 am

There is more than Anna Karenina and War and Peace.

I know. The question was what to start with. I thought something “light” and relatively cheerful!

😀

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 10:08 am

Tom:

The Pakis are bowling post-coin flip. Now I have to wait for half an hour to go shopping in order to see both our flogworthy openers slowly walk back to the sheds without troubling the scorers to any great degree.

Tom
Tom
December 26, 2023 10:11 am

Woops! Pakistan wins the toss and elects to bowl. My bad.

Go Pakis — make sure they’re six down by lunch in the overcast conditions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 26, 2023 10:13 am

Belated Christmas wishes to all Cats and Kittehs from Chez Lizzie and Hairy, yesterday reverting as in many past Christmases into Villa Chaos with happy children’s shrieks of anticipation and joy. We had mainly immediate family with spouses and their offspring (those still in town) yesterday, making thirteen, in contrast to the days of yore where we also had my brother’s large family and Big Sis’s tribe too. There were times back then, in our large house with a pool, where we had over 30 for Christmas lunch, on a number of trestle tables in both the house and garden. Now my father, mother, brother and my oldest nephew (Big Sis’s son) are all departed this life, and Big Sis has moved into Supported Living. Christmas tends to gather now around separate immediate families of descent, and we who are now ‘elders’ become matriarchs and patriarchs of our own clans.

As we age, Christmas becomes so full of our memories, and I hope all Cats and Kittehs were blessed with some good ones, ably assisted by a huge excess, according to inclination, of feasting and imbibing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 26, 2023 10:14 am

Usman, the ICC have saw through your facade.

Fine him until he, and all sportspeople, get the message that there must be absolutely no politics in sport. Go hard until they get the message.

That includes Captain Climate. One green peep from him and he needs to be flattened by the ICC and Cricket Australia.

The fiascos of Rugby Australia and Colin Kaepernick should have taught a few lessons, but they just keep doing it. So zero tolerance has to be the way, and anyone who tries it on should be penalized until they glow.

Damon
Damon
December 26, 2023 10:14 am

‘Heart of a Dog’ is a satire on Bolshevism.

Beertruk
December 26, 2023 10:14 am

Cassie of Sydney
Dec 26, 2023 9:49 AM
Beertruk
Dec 26, 2023 9:34 AM

I was at that gathering.

Bugger…our paths had crossed but we didn’t get to meet each other.
It was a bloody good night though.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 26, 2023 10:19 am

Although he recounted “pinch me” moments in 2023 including having dinner with US President Joe Biden and his wife, …

That a man with so few talents as Albo could become PM of Australia and dine with the most powerful leader of the Western world is indeed a “pinch me” moment.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 10:19 am

Sooooooo appropriate. I have a new name to give that rancid cockroach next time he vomits up on these pages. Without a doubt he’s lurking here, and when he vomits up I’ll call him what he really truly is, an ‘Einsatz-groupy’

I know this refers to myself.
In the end you’ll always be an up yourself, arrogant self entitled female who leeches off the nearest male like all of them do…

Probably lives in a gated community and will never have to struggle for anything in life.

If there is a struggle, you cry and demand the ban hammer like all of them.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 26, 2023 10:21 am

I am going now to raise The Patriarch from our second-best bed, for we ceded our best bed and harbour view and ensuite to daughter and her husband, who have now left for a stay with friends in faraway Yamba, nearly back to Queensland. I have my study back now that the three children sleeping in it have woken and gone with them too.

Next Christmas I have decided I need to appoint a Reminder Person, rather like an old-style Sin Eater, someone who will remind me to do things I overlook – like yesterday, so pre-occupied was I with turkey, ham and roast vegies being hot and ready, I forgot to put out the stuffing from the turkey for the cafeteria self-serve around the kitchen, and I also clean forgot the Christmas fruits – so I now have mangos, cherries, blueberries and strawberries galore still in the fridges. My breakfast has been a Freddo Frog from the Gingerbread House lucky dip finished off with what life should always be – a bowl of cherries. I can’t argue with that.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 26, 2023 10:22 am

FMD the Australian side walking out onto the hallowed MCG turf to the sound of a black fella rendition of You’re The Voice. Farking cringe

Zippster
Zippster
December 26, 2023 10:23 am
Tom
Tom
December 26, 2023 10:23 am

FMD. The ruling class learned nothing from the referendum.

All the white blackfellahs in their animal skins are lined up at the MCG to shove the welcome to country down our throats.

Cricket fans are sick to death of politics in sport. So are footy fans, for that matter.

Petros
Petros
December 26, 2023 10:24 am

For the Russian literature, get the translations by Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky. Husband and wife team. He’s a native English speaker, she Russian. SBS uses two translators too. Far better.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 10:24 am

Aunty ferking Joy wasting space at the G. Whiter than the Hamas opener.

Putting Paki’s to sleep

vr
vr
December 26, 2023 10:27 am

I started reading Stefan Zweig’s “The World of Yesterday” recently. It is not an easy read.

Arthur Koestler’s “darkness at noon” is on the list when I am through with Zweig’s book.

132andBush
132andBush
December 26, 2023 10:27 am

I know this refers to myself.
In the end you’ll always be an up yourself, arrogant self entitled female who leeches off the nearest male like all of them do…

You can’t hold a candle to Cassie and the above ad hom just proves it.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 10:28 am

Another Pagan Celebration at the MCG just now.
Led by a white looking woman wearing western clothes, and a fur coat (no doubt mage with western tools)!

FMD

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 10:28 am

A fair few Uber drivers in the small crowd.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 10:28 am

Made not mage

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 26, 2023 10:29 am

Despite stating she was satisfied the boy had been the driver of the Prado, that he knew right from wrong and had no disabilities or cognitive issues, Magistrate Ridley concluded he did not understand the severity of his offending.

My nine year-old granddaughter would be perfectly aware, as would any of her schoolfriends, that such an action would be both horrendous and dangerous and was without any doubt certainly very morally wrong.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 10:30 am

I know this refers to myself.

Nope

In the end you’ll always be an up yourself, arrogant self entitled female who leeches off the nearest male like all of them do…

Nope again. I don’t “leech off” any male.

Probably lives in a gated community and will never have to struggle for anything in life.

Nope again.

If there is a struggle, you cry and demand the ban hammer like all of them.

Nope again. I have never asked for you to be “banned”. Your comment two days ago directed at me was utterly filthy, putrid, disgusting and depraved. It was deleted by Dover and rightly so. Very decent of Dover to continue to allow you to comment but he is decent. I actually don’t want you banned, it’s always good to have people to rebut.

Here’s a thought, perhaps you should seek professional help.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 26, 2023 10:31 am

FMD the Australian side walking out onto the hallowed MCG turf to the sound of a black fella rendition of You’re The Voice.

That’s another 30,000 punters who won’t be in the crowd for the next four days. All it takes to piss off 60% of the country, who won’t now be buying MCG tickets.

The empty stadia during the BLM stupidity would’ve caused the NFL billions of losses.

Get onto them bigly Cricket Australia or you’ll have empty stadia also.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 10:35 am

Speaking of lesbians (the Hun):

A lesbian couple on their first date at a Crown casino bar was allegedly arrested by security guards moments after they shared a kiss, court papers claim.

Sharon Cosgrove, 59, is suing Crown and the State of Victoria for “highly offensive” and discriminatory conduct by security and police after she and another woman were detained following some “light kissing”.

You just know there’s going to be more to this.

Ms Cosgrove states that she entered Crown with her date and bought a glass of red wine at Lumia bar, where they sat together as five security guards stood nearby watching them.

Yep. Because five security guards picked them at random. Because they didn’t draw attention to themselves beforehand at all.

The couple briefly and lightly kissed while sitting at the table at the bar, at which point it is alleged Crown security ordered them to leave the casino.

“The order to leave was made ostensibly on the basis that the (couple) were intoxicated, which was false, but was in truth made on the basis of sexual discrimination against two lesbians who were engaging in light kissing and touching,” court papers state.

Every public bar in Melbourne encourages lesbian attendance.

Soon after, it’s alleged they “totally restrained” her, holding her down with “excessive force” despite there being “no lawful justification” for her arrest.

It’s alleged she was handcuffed before being taken to the Casino’s basement, then to the Custody Centre in the back of a police divvy van.

Because they were lesbians in public. In Melbourne. Riiiiight.

Slater and Gordon

Of course.

public liability lawyer Oliver Robertson said what Ms Cosgrove experienced was “unacceptable”.

“No one deserves to be profiled, harassed and assaulted in public on account of their sexual orientation,” he said.

Yeah nah nah nah yeah nah.

Crown confirmed it “will be defending the matter”, suggesting the gaming giant doesn’t agree with the allegations.

Please let this be subject to intense publicity.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 10:39 am

This is cricket related:

I don’t understand what has happened to Afridi’s pace?
When he debuted I thought he was bowling around 150 kph?
On this tour he has struggled to get over 130 kph.
Maybe injured?

C.L.
C.L.
December 26, 2023 10:41 am

Maryinka has fallen to Russia.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 10:43 am

Noooooooooo…….

Midget cheat dropped at first slip. A sitter, too.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 26, 2023 10:43 am

Khawaja, like Harry Kane during the World Cup, have shown themselves to be cowards. No black armband, no dove on the bat. If he really stood by his conviction, he would do so. But a phuckwit will remain so

Makka
Makka
December 26, 2023 10:43 am

Haven’t seen this much swing in the MCG for years and years.

Warner lives!

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 26, 2023 10:47 am

That a man with so few talents as Albo could become PM of Australia

Saw that Christwhatafool is preferred Premier over Piles and LNP are ahead in the polls. Qld is well and truly screwed.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 26, 2023 10:47 am

In the end you’ll always be an up yourself, arrogant self entitled female who leeches off the nearest male like all of them do…

If this refers to Cassie, it is complete bulltish. Cassie has a razor sharp intellect and the historical scholarship to support her viewpoints.

As for ‘leeching off the nearest male’ look my way if you must, you hopeless case who knows nothing of how husbands and wives can love each other dearly regardless of material circumstances or differing social origins. Cassie is the most independent woman, caring now for her elderly mother. That said, I wish life had offered Cassie the comfort and security of a loving Jewish husband, as she has herself often said, here and to me, for finding (and keeping) such love can be a rocky road. As Cassie is still a relatively young and attractive woman, I hope more love is yet to be found. In my family we don’t let age get in our way – my Big Sis found a lasting love at age 72 after five failed marriages; this couple are eleven years now into a shared Darby and Joan twilight in ‘independent’ supported care. So always expect the unexpected.

If anyone is leeching here, it is you, leeching off the goodwill of Christmas to spread your poison on a site where you are Dover’s guest.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 26, 2023 10:48 am

Haven’t seen this much swing in the MCG for years and years.

Obviously climate change.

This will be fun though, Aussie batsmen hate swing like ebola. Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis would be having a fine time if they had this pill.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 26, 2023 10:48 am

Lefties are the greatest Islamic apologists because they know that, as atheists, they are considered the lowest of the low by Islam, even lower than Jews and polytheists.

It’s active appeasement of the crocodile.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 10:48 am

Nope again. I don’t “leech off” any male.

Probably lives in a gated community and will never have to struggle for anything in life.

Nope again.

If there is a struggle, you cry and demand the ban hammer like all of them.

Nope again. I have never asked for you to be “banned”. Your comment two days ago directed at me was utterly filthy, putrid, disgusting and depraved. It was deleted by Dover and rightly so. Very decent of Dover to continue to allow you to comment but he is decent. I actually don’t want you banned, it’s always good to have people to rebut.

Here’s a thought, perhaps you should seek professional help.

Sorry, don’t believe you.

All women leech off men, either directly through marriage/divorce/inheritance, or indirectly through the state and our terrible man hating legal system.

Also, my previous comment is no less relevant, you and almost all jews use your faith and WW2 events as a shield against criticism.
Millions have been slaughtered all through human history, all in horrible way, yet we give one particular group special privileges above others.

I get over hearing about it, we constantly are told to move on and reconcile past events, except that one for some reason.

Almost 10 times that number died under Mao, and nobody cares.

As for professional help.
That’s a typical argument of a leftist attempting to discredit an argument.

Remember, you were declared “mentally ill” for not supporting communism in the soviet union. Punishable by “re-education”.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 10:50 am

Haven’t seen this much swing in the MCG for years and years.

High humidity. Not normal Melbourne weather.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 26, 2023 10:51 am

I also note on the member’s stand the Aboriginal flag in the middle of 5 flags assembled.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 10:54 am

Also, my previous comment is no less relevant, you and almost all jews use your faith and WW2 events as a shield against criticism

Well.

Someone got a lump of coal in their Santa sack yesterday.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 26, 2023 10:55 am

Khawaja, like Harry Kane during the World Cup, have shown themselves to be cowards. No black armband, no dove on the bat. If he really stood by his conviction, he would do so. But a phuckwit will remain so

It’s more than that. He had “all lives matter” which is, on its own completely uncontroversial. But he was entirely selective. There’s wars all over the world, but he only wears it when Jews kill Muslims in war. Muslim killing Muslims is meh. He’d already lost me though with his complaint that the Australian team is too “white”, like being white is some sort of crime. And he’s ungrateful. He has been given great opportunity in Australia for the simple act of coming here.

No good deed goes unpunished.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 10:56 am

Someone got a lump of coal in their Santa sack yesterday.

That doesn’t address my point…

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 26, 2023 11:00 am

All women leech off men, either directly through marriage/divorce/inheritance, or indirectly through the state and our terrible man hating legal system.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

I’m not going to acknowledge the depravity of the rest of your comments by even mentioning them.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 11:01 am

I don’t understand what has happened to Afridi’s pace?
When he debuted I thought he was bowling around 150 kph?

I don’t think Afridi was ever a 150+ monster, unlike one or two of the Paki dudes running around in the BBL.

Strictly a seamer who hits the stick hard, rather than an out-and-out pace machine.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 11:02 am

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

I’m not going to acknowledge the depravity of the rest of your comments by even mentioning them.

That also doesn’t address my point

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 26, 2023 11:03 am

Haven’t seen this much swing in the MCG for years and years.

Since Frank Sinatra.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 11:03 am

“Oh, no, no, no, no, very important to call that out. I am not Indigenous so it wasn’t a loss to me,” the Labor leader said.

Was this the same bloke who sat in the red dirt with ‘Digenous ladies and went through a family sized box of Kleenex?

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 11:04 am

I’ve read the first, at least, Don book.
Very good.
Must have been because I finished it 🙂 which is more than I can say about Crime and Punishment when I tackled that as a teen.
I know exactly where I left off, still.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 11:04 am

Also, my previous comment is no less relevant, you and almost all jews use your faith and WW2 events as a shield against criticism.”

As I wrote above, you need professional help.

Robert Sewell
December 26, 2023 11:04 am

rosie:

but I am prioritizing the life of my people’s women and children over the lives of Palestinian women and children.
It is important to note that this choice was forced upon me and my people. If Palestinians would make the simple and obvious choice to make peace with Israel, their people and our people would live in security forever. Hamas, the other ten Palestinian terror organizations in Gaza, and the Palestinian Gazans who participated and supported the atrocities on Oct 7th, have committed themselves to destroying the State of Israel and killing the Jewish people. We will not allow that to happen. It is our bombs that are killing the women and children in Gaza, but it is the decision of Hamas and the Palestinian supporters of terror who have caused it and are to blame.

Precisely.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 11:06 am

As I wrote above, you need professional help.

As I wrote about, you belong in in the soviet union…

Pogria
Pogria
December 26, 2023 11:06 am

Plastic Sorter,
the “pervert apologist”, Cassie referred to is Monty. Unsurprising that you walk through the blog with shit on your boots, then whine that everyone is talking about you.

Monty has a blog, you should spend time over there. It is a very exclusive blog. You would fit right in.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 11:06 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Dec 26, 2023 10:47 AM”

Thank you Lizzie.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 26, 2023 11:07 am

I thought I would add a little joy to this thread. For all the Cat-Dog Lovers here.

Doggie Christmas Tree.

Such fun, Pogria.

We had ‘the dog’, a friendly good-natured staffy, along with my second son here yesterday. Nine year-old granddaughter is frightened of dogs and her anxious mother allocated my study as a ‘safe place’ if it got to much. Needn’t have bothered though, as meeting one’s fears is the way to grow up. The little girl was fine with the dog.

All’s well. Attapuss spent the day in his room which he kindly shared with us overnight. He did muster his braveness to appear once all but the overnite stayers had left. He’s learning not to be frightened too, I murmur fondly to Hairy, who simply mutters stupid cat.

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 11:07 am

I’m a misogynist and I don’t care.

Imagine reducing women to the state of parasite.
No wonder he finds common cause with islam for whom women are a commodity.

Winston Smith
December 26, 2023 11:09 am

Peter Greagg:

As an older Australian with a great interest in reading, I was thinking I should read Jane Austen (dunno why I haven’t read her yet?).
Could informed Cats suggest where I should start?

Jane Austen – highly over rated.
Start with your collection of “Phantom” comics. Then move on to “Mandrake the Magician.”
Winston gestures hypnotically…

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 11:11 am

Australian team is too “white”

Says a bloke with a white wife.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 11:13 am

KD at 11:01

Just checked with Google.
Waquar says Afridi used to bowl 145-150 kph, and Waquar is concerned about his drop in pace.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 11:15 am

I’m a misogynist and I don’t care.

Imagine reducing women to the state of parasite.
No wonder he finds common cause with islam for whom women are a commodity.

Women are a commodity/resource.

They are used to produce the next generation on men for protection/warfare.

Why do you think they weren’t wiped out in tribal warfare?

Once victory was achieved, then men from the old tribe were wiped out, the women were kept to breed the next generation.

This carries through symbolically even in marriage today.

Why do you think the father gives his daughter away to the groom?
That used to represent a transfer of property rights from the father to the husband…

Vagabond
Vagabond
December 26, 2023 11:15 am

Damon
Dec 26, 2023 10:04 AM

Russian authors. Sholokov, the Don series; Bulgakov, Heart of a Dog. There is more than Anna Karenina and War and Peace.

Anything by Bulgakov is a must, especially “The Master and Margarita” – a work that got him into a spot of bother with Comrade Stalin. And his “Country Doctor’s Notebook” that was made into a passable series by the BBC starring John Hamm and Daniel Radcliff renamed “A Young Doctor’s Notebook”.

Makka
Makka
December 26, 2023 11:17 am

Waquar says Afridi used to bowl 145-150 kph, and Waquar is concerned about his drop in pace.

At around 130kph he seems a little erratic. What’s he like 20kph quicker?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 26, 2023 11:17 am

Daily Mail.

Tense moment cops show up at the doorstep of controversial vegan activist Tash Peterson on Christmas Day and arrest her over another wild stunt

Tash Peterson should be put in a cage somewhere, and offered a choice of eating meat, or death by starvation.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 26, 2023 11:17 am

Crossie

“Could it be because the white indigenous activists have snaffled most of the billions?”

White indigenous activists are a more reliable Liars voting demographic than rural aboriginals, who might not bother to vote. The real indigenous have other matters on their minds.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 26, 2023 11:17 am

Waquar says Afridi used to bowl 145-150 kph, and Waquar is concerned about his drop in pace

Righto. Happy to stand corrected.

Mind you, almost everyone’s a drop in pace compared to Waqar.

Winston Smith
December 26, 2023 11:17 am

Beertruk:

A bit more detail from the Paywallion:
Indigenous voice referendum ‘not my loss’, Anthony Albanese declares

Sounds like “The Thirsty Crow and the Jar of Water”.

In a spell of dry weather, when the Birds could find very little to drink, a thirsty Crow found a pitcher with a little water in it. But the pitcher was high and had a narrow neck, and no matter how he tried, the Crow could not reach the water. The poor thing felt as if he must die of thirst.
So he kicked the jar over and flew away. “Stupid pitcher” said the crow.*

* May not accurately reflect other versions of the fable.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 26, 2023 11:18 am

Australian team is too “white

Which raises the question what level of tint would be acceptable? Clearly Martin Luther King must have had a word to selectors.

miltonf
miltonf
December 26, 2023 11:18 am

Cricket has always bored me to buggery both to play and to watch. Soccer plus a bit of Rugby was always my thing.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
December 26, 2023 11:19 am

That came after Australian captain Pat Cummins labelled Khawaja’s request as “pretty vanilla,” suggesting that he cannot see the difference between the dove and the Bible-verse and eagle adorned on teammate Marnus Labuschagne’s bat.

And who exactly briefed the media about the sticker on Marnus bat, well Khawaja of course, to enable him to label the ICC as hypocrites. Neither Khawaja or Cummins gets it, Khawaja started the palaver by pretending support for only Hamas was ok with a lame misnomer, which is the message he briefed the media with. It’s instructive that he has never asked for the hostages to be returned.

He should be sacked.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 11:20 am

Lode at 9:21.

But still he wants to talk about the decomposing carcass of the stillborn Voice.

I don’t think that he wants to talk about it at all. He was responding to a question.
I think his PR flunkies have been pushing the media hard to avoid the subject because “it triggers First Nations trauma”.
The question was out of bounds caught him off guard.

miltonf
miltonf
December 26, 2023 11:21 am

As for the current fukwits that play and administer that boring game- I wouldn’t waste my time with them.

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 11:26 am

Women are a commodity/resource.

Good heavens! Does that make men disposable by comparison?

Tell me about the sanctity of life.

Or does that argument change depending upon the circumstances?

miltonf
miltonf
December 26, 2023 11:26 am

One word sums up Biden- Dirty. In every sense of the word.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 26, 2023 11:27 am

Millions have been slaughtered all through human history, all in horrible way, yet we give one particular group special privileges above others.

Think on this.

The perpetrators were drawn from the most civilised of Western nations after all of the technological marvels of that civilisation had been developed. Yet the ideological cold-blooded slaughter of one category of humans, the inhuman ‘disposal’ of one historical category of men, women and children within our own Western world, could still occur. And our populations were largely complicit until roused to moral fortitude by Winston Churchill.

This was no thousand-times-before outrage of a maurading Ghengis Khan, nor a Communist-bred socio-political disaster that we might expect from such tyrannies, this was done by a nation displaying the best of us, our cultural heights, and to some of the best of us, our cultural leading lights.

That is why we remember and abhor the Holocaust of the Jews, above all others.

It is why we say, with Israel, never again. We won’t put up with it. It stands for all of the inhuman activities that a claimed creation of a loving god can produce, all of the evil of which mankind is capable. It is a statement of human volition, the good in us, that we will not see this ever happen again within our civilisation. Also, that we will oppose such ‘genocides’ everywhere, by every means.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 11:28 am

KD @11:17
Ha ha. Yes, especially his first 200 wickets. I think his strike rate for those was about 40. WOW.

rosie
rosie
December 26, 2023 11:28 am

I wondered what had happened to this little boy and his baby brother who featured in an hamas propaganda video.
Unfortunately their mother was murdered.
the story

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 26, 2023 11:30 am

Cricket has always bored me to buggery both to play and to watch

Cricket is a background activity – reading a book at the beach. Even if you’re there enjoying a beer with your mates.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 26, 2023 11:30 am

Women are a commodity/resource.

By that reckoning, men only like women for having a moist hole. You’re shallower than a Clarke’s kiddy pool broken by a fat kid.

Lee
Lee
December 26, 2023 11:31 am

Australian team is too “white”

You’ll notice how no one ever says a team from Africa is too black or there aren’t enough whites in it (in fact there are none at all).

Same with Asian sporting teams.

Khawaja is an ungrateful, entitled brat, given an opportunity in the national team when he was not born here.

If he was a white immigrant to his native Pakistan there is no way he would be selected for a national team.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 11:33 am

Mind you, almost everyone’s a drop in pace compared to Waqar.

Yeah, do you remember that series when he and Wasim Akram routed the Pommies? Stumps cartwheeling galore. Unplayable swinging thunderbolts. High chance of sandpaper etc.

Seems an OK bloke in the commentary though.

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 11:34 am

Odd that. The Beloved gave two daughters away. In his wedding speeches, and I’ll paraphrase because it’s a long time ago…

Today I gave () away. But you can’t give away something you don’t own, it’s like giving away sunshine. But I did have the delight of her for a few short years, to raise, to teach, to play with, to bask in her success. And now it’s all up to you…to love her, to enjoy being with her, to start it all over again with a new family.

Look after her as best you can…or that brother of hers over there will hunt you down to the ends of the earth and…just kidding. No, I’m not.

😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 11:42 am

Knuckle Dragger

Dec 26, 2023 10:43 AM

Noooooooooo…….

Midget cheat dropped at first slip. A sitter, too.

Fckty fck!
Parked the sporty Beemer, popped upstairs and flicked on the TeeVee.
That was the first ball I saw.
Followed by half a dozen play and misses.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 11:42 am

Lovely darts calli.

Beautiful words by your mate.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 11:44 am

Couldn’t say “Beloved” ‘cos that might make me gay.

Makka
Makka
December 26, 2023 11:45 am

The Pakis are bowling around 2 decent balls in 6 in the last 30 minutes. Rank bowling.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 11:46 am

Zafiro @ 11:33am

According to Geoff (Henry) Lawson, the NSW team learned how to do that from Iran when he played for University (Club Cricket) and NSW Shield Side.
I think a beer bottle top was the instrument.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 11:46 am

General Ripper from Dr. Strangelove had the right idea regarding women. By all means enjoy their company, but deny them your essence. ROFL that.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 11:48 am

Considering the pace the Pakis bowl at, they are too short, and as others have said, not consistent enough.

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 11:48 am

Good heavens! Does that make men disposable by comparison?

Tell me about the sanctity of life.

Or does that argument change depending upon the circumstances?

Yes, we are absolutely disposable. We always have been.

Look at how we were “meat for the grinder in The Great War…

Women don’t get that privilege…

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 26, 2023 11:52 am

Pogria

“Monty has a blog, you should spend time over there. It is a very exclusive blog. You would fit right in.”

Is there any activity there? Last time I bothered to look, he hadn’t put up a new post for around a year.

Winston Smith
December 26, 2023 11:57 am

Knuckle Dragger

Dec 26, 2023 10:35 AM
Speaking of lesbians (the Hun):

There will be security footage of the whole thing.
Stupid lesbians.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 26, 2023 11:57 am

That doesn’t address my point…

Look at me. You want to be noticed. That’s the point.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 11:57 am

Peter Greagg
Dec 26, 2023 11:46 AM

I see. Old “Henry” Lawson is a blast from the past. Good under rated quick. Was part of the 1989 Ashes triumph.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
December 26, 2023 12:06 pm

Zafiro @ 11:57 AM

Quite so. I think he got a 7 for in an Ashes Test in England.

He was also a very good Captain for NSW who tutored Mark Taylor in the art.
If NSW batted first, He was always very keen to have a bowl on the first day. So, all out for 315 at 5:00 pm was the target. He was mindful of the fact the games were only 4 days long and you had to bowl out the other side twice to win.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 26, 2023 12:06 pm

Since the team knelt for Dave (?) Floyd, an American passer of forged banknotes, who overdosed & died though cops tried to help him, I’ve not bothered to pay any attention to the cricket team, except to idly hope they all get out for ducks & have 36 runs scored with every over they bowl.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 12:07 pm

That came after Australian captain Pat Cummins labelled Khawaja’s request as “pretty vanilla,” suggesting that he cannot see the difference between the dove and the Bible-verse and eagle adorned on teammate Marnus Labuschagne’s bat

Cummins is dirty on the fact that Indians run world crickit and have no time for Mueslis.
Just as he very bravely stood up to Alinta (because coal) but was strangely silent about T20 World Cup and IPL sponsor Saudi Aramco.
Why?
Well, Alinta will just suck it up.
But if you start bagging out Aramco you aren’t getting another IPL contract.

Pogria
Pogria
December 26, 2023 12:08 pm

Boambee John
Dec 26, 2023 11:52 AM
Pogria

“Monty has a blog, you should spend time over there. It is a very exclusive blog. You would fit right in.”

Is there any activity there? Last time I bothered to look, he hadn’t put up a new post for around a year.

Boambee John,
I believe Monty’s missus and the milkman’s kids have locked him permanently in the basement. The Recycling bloke could go over and rescue him and they could live happily ever after.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 26, 2023 12:10 pm

Speaking of lesbians

Just watch the video.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 26, 2023 12:11 pm

Whenever two people enter Crown Casino, Five security guards are detailed to watch them & pounce as soon as one gives the other a peck on the cheek.

Sure.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 26, 2023 12:11 pm

Good news Cassie, the Obela hummus is the best ever. No refund required. Everyone commented how good it was. Son tells me he uses it in his restaurant. The guacamole is good but I prefer homemade. The avocado has been hit and miss lately.

bons
bons
December 26, 2023 12:13 pm

Thank you P.

Wenceslas is the most Christmas spirit invoking carol of them all. Beautifully performed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 26, 2023 12:14 pm

Yep, Captain Carbon’s support is quite selective. Wont be too many tears shed around the BCCI board table for Gaza.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 12:18 pm

He was mindful of the fact the games were only 4 days long and you had to bowl out the other side twice to win.

Yeah mate. Tactics involved in Shield cricket, being 4 day games.

He was a Wagga Wagga boy, like many good sportsmen that town has produced. Cricket, footy, rugby etc.

dopey
dopey
December 26, 2023 12:19 pm

“Fast bowlers never learn.” Passed down through the generation. Will ever be thus.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 12:22 pm

I want to throw David Pocock out of a helicopter; purely as a warning to Pat Cummins.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 26, 2023 12:22 pm

Am I the only Cat who does not know a Jew?
Doesn’t interact with any in daily commerce, business, or social life?
Don’t know of a Jew, anywhere, that he could reasonably expect to bump into, should he have the urge to interact with one.

Likewise for most people I know. Yet in my entire life, I don’t recall anybody, either in my extended family, or my district, who is anything but vehemently on Israel’s side.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 26, 2023 12:25 pm

Nuclear milkman embarrasses himself in public.

‘Resign’: Benjamin Netanyahu is ‘putting the lives of Israelis at risk’ (Sky, 26 Dec)

Former Labor senator Stephen Conroy has called on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to “resign” because he’s “so desperate” to keep his position and is “putting the lives of Israelis at risk”.
”’
“He should resign and allow someone else to take charge who doesn’t have a completely ludicrous position of ‘I’m going to wipe Hamas out’ – that’s like saying the entire Western world were going to wipe the Taliban out – well, that didn’t go so well.

No son, your ignorance is only exceeded by your nastiness. The Israeli government is a unity war cabinet from the full spectrum of Israeli politics. Gantz is a big dog in it, he’s centre left. Even Lapid was saying that Hamas must be destroyed, Lapid is far-left.

Take your limp soy-milk antisemitism Steven and shove it up your quoit.

Pogria
Pogria
December 26, 2023 12:27 pm

Yes, we are absolutely disposable. We always have been.

Look at how we were “meat for the grinder in The Great War…

Women don’t get that privilege…

Judging by the number of butchered women and children on 7th October, it seems Hamarse didn’t get the memo.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 12:29 pm

The lisping Conroy……

Take your limp soy-milk antisemitism Steven and shove it up your quoit.

Beautifully expressed.

Tom
Tom
December 26, 2023 12:31 pm

Midget houso ranga cheat gorn for 38!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 12:32 pm

“Yes, we are absolutely disposable. We always have been.

Look at how we were “meat for the grinder in The Great War…

Who is this “we”, Kimosabe?
You were there?
Or are you just playing the stolen valour game?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 26, 2023 12:32 pm

Hamas still batting.

Bugger it. Off to the Race.

P
P
December 26, 2023 12:32 pm

Peter Greagg
Dec 26, 2023 8:20 AM

Mostly a lurker, although sometimes I am energised to post.

As an older Australian with a great interest in reading, I was thinking I should read Jane Austen (dunno why I haven’t read her yet?).

Could informed Cats suggest where I should start?

Also I have never read any Russian authors. Again, any suggestions of where I should start (War and Peace?)?

Dostoevsky for Catholics (and Everyone Else), Part I

Dostoevsky represents one powerful reply to many of the cataclysmic changes that have swept modern Western civilization since the eighteenth century.

Tom
Tom
December 26, 2023 12:33 pm

The guacamole is good but I prefer homemade. The avocado has been hit and miss lately.

I had a bowl of fruit for breakfast about 8.30am yesterday. So, by the time I arrived for Christmas lunch, I was starved.

Before I started hoovering down the seafood, roast meats and trifle, there were the horse’s doovers which included a brilliant spicy guacamole my brother recommended.

It’s from Aldi, he informed me., and cost a skerrick.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 12:33 pm

Warner makes 2/38.
Piss orf you ginger headed flog.

mizaris
mizaris
December 26, 2023 12:33 pm

Warner…gone

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 12:38 pm

Judging by the number of butchered women and children on 7th October, it seems Hamarse didn’t get the memo.

That doesn’t prove anything…

How many millions of men were sent their deaths during all wars in the last 100 years.

How many women?

Oh that’s right, hardly any…

Men are disposable and are treated as such…

Men were/are derided for refusing to go to war.
White feather movement ring any bells?

Imagine the public outcry if we conscripted women to be slaughtered in the same way we did men?

But hey, women wanted equality, perhaps they should be sent to the slaughter in the same way men have.

I’m all for equality here, let women put their big fat arses where their big fat mouths are.

Dot
Dot
December 26, 2023 12:40 pm

1. Panspermia must be a given.
2. The extreme flip flopping on the validity of statistics (even with the basis of the discipline in calculus) whilst hiding behind the skirt of a BA in mathematics is hilarious.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 12:41 pm

And how long have you had these mummy issues, Plastic?

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 26, 2023 12:41 pm

Who is this “we”, Kimosabe?
You were there?
Or are you just playing the stolen valour game?

I’m not trying to steal anyone’s valour…
Merely pointing out that men are seen as disposable by our society in general.

I don’t see how pointing out that “we” as men, collectively are seen as disposable is stealing anyone’s valour…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 12:43 pm

The mathematics amateur hour overnight was interesting.
Really, really interesting.
Slide rules at ten paces.
Rivetting stuff.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 12:43 pm

Nuclear milkman embarrasses himself in public.

It is “Milkweeper”, Bruce. h/t Tim Blair

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 26, 2023 12:45 pm

Iran vows revenge as Israel kills senior general

By AFP
AFP
12:30PM December 26, 2023
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An Israeli strike in Syria has killed a senior general with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, the military force said, with Tehran vowing retribution.

The incident further raises tension in the Middle East where Iran-aligned groups have escalated attacks since Iran-backed Hamas militants attacked southern Israel on October 7, triggering a war with Israel.

Iranian state media also reported the death of Razi Moussavi, describing him as “one of the most experienced advisers” of Quds Force, the foreign arm of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).

There was no immediate comment from Israel, which has intensified attacks in Syria, particularly against Lebanon’s Iran-backed Hezbollah movement, since the Israel-Hamas war began.

Moussavi is the most senior Quds Force commander to be killed outside Iran since General Qasem Soleimani. A US drone strike in Baghdad nearly four years ago — on January 3, 2020 — killed Soleimani, the Quds Force leader.

Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi expressed condolences for Moussavi’s death, saying Israel “will certainly pay for this crime”.

The general “was killed during an attack by the Zionist regime a few hours ago in Zeinabiyah district in the suburbs of Damascus,” official news agency IRNA reported, using a different name for Sayyida Zeinab south of the Syrian capital.

Moussavi was “active in the field of providing logistic support to the axis of resistance in Syria,” IRNA said, referring to groups backed by Tehran and arrayed against Israel.

An IGRC statement said a “missile attack” killed Moussavi, and vowed to avenge his death.

areff
areff
December 26, 2023 12:50 pm

Not normal Melbourne weather.

What, pray, is “normal” Melbourne weather?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 26, 2023 12:51 pm

It’s nice of Iran to acknowledge the importance of a person Israel has removed.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 12:59 pm

What, pray, is “normal” Melbourne weather?

LOL. Fair enough. Not normally humid.

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 1:00 pm

Fabulous watching them all waiting…waiting….l15 seconds to go…

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 1:01 pm

bang! And they’re off!

Dad loved the Sydney to Hobart. We always watched the start.

Tom
Tom
December 26, 2023 1:01 pm

Iran vows revenge as Israel kills senior general

To paraphrase Chuck Schumer, the mad mullahs have reaped the whirlwind.

Go, Israel!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 1:04 pm

Well.
The first time I’ve seen the start of a Siddy Hobart race.
Slightly more exciting than the late night Mathematics Hour.

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 1:08 pm

That was close!

Plenty of room! Sure. For a canoe.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 26, 2023 1:10 pm

Call me if someone tries to board with a cutlass between their teeth.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 26, 2023 1:12 pm

Dad loved the Sydney to Hobart. We always watched the start.

I watched a doco on TV a few weeks back about the 1998 edition. Fuck that. FIL did it a couple of times in the ’80s, reckons it was hardcore. He was only used to Port Philip Bay and what not.

calli
calli
December 26, 2023 1:12 pm

Scallywag, Sancho. The equivalent…tacking way too close.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 1:12 pm

Dad loved the Sydney to Hobart. We always watched the start.”

As do we, we’re watching it now.

Cassie of Sydney
December 26, 2023 1:14 pm

There are plenty of men with fat arses too.

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