Open Thread – Weekend 27 Jan 2024


Path Leading Through Long Grass, Auguste Renoir, 1877

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Eyrie
Eyrie
January 28, 2024 10:58 am

I gave “Masters of the Air” two minutes yesterday. How does it stack up against the original “Twelve O’Clock High” or even the 1960’s TV series. Not sure I can be bothered.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 28, 2024 10:58 am

Turning the page?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 28, 2024 11:03 am

Tom
Jan 28, 2024 10:05 AM

While Mark Knight is on holidays, the Herald Sun has been running cartoons by other News Corp artists, including some killers this weekend by the Daily Telegraph’s Warren Brown.

But, according to Google that’s supposed to be an all-seeing, all-knowing global search engine, Warren Brown basically doesn’t exist.

When you Google “Warren Brown cartoons”, you get an apology that “there are not many search results” available.

There was a time when the coders at Google were making it hard to find stuff from people whose politics they didn’t like – anyone to the right of Ghengis Khan.

But I think they gave that up because a search engine’s confession it can’t find stuff is an admission of incompetence.

Tom,

I have taken to using https://bard.google.com/

still dear old useless google but for Question Warren Brown cartoons

Answer

Warren Brown is a prolific Australian cartoonist, best known for his editorial cartoons in the Sydney Daily Telegraph. His work is characterized by its sharp wit, satirical bite, and clever use of visual metaphor. Here are some of his most famous cartoons:

“The GST Trap” (1991): This cartoon depicts a rat caught in a mousetrap baited with the Goods and Services Tax (GST). It was a powerful commentary on the controversial introduction of the tax in Australia.

“Kevin 07” (2007): This cartoon shows then-Prime Minister Kevin Rudd asleep at the wheel of a car labeled “Australia.” It was a scathing critique of Rudd’s perceived inaction during the Global Financial Crisis.

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Kevin 07 cartoon by Warren Brown

“The Budget Balancing Act” (2014): This cartoon features Treasurer Joe Hockey balancing on a tightrope, with weights labeled “taxes” and “spending” on either side. It was a humorous take on the challenges of balancing the budget.

“ScoMo’s Surplus” (2019): This cartoon shows Prime Minister Scott Morrison swimming in a pool of money labeled “surplus.” It was a satirical comment on Morrison’s claims of a budget surplus.

“Bushfire Crisis” (2020): This cartoon depicts a firefighter battling a massive bushfire, with Prime Minister Scott Morrison standing idly by watering a small sapling. It was a powerful indictment of the government’s response to the devastating bushfires of 2019-2020.

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Bushfire Crisis cartoon by Warren Brown

In addition to his editorial cartoons, Brown has also created cartoons for television, books, and magazines. He is a recipient of numerous awards, including three Stanley Awards for Best Political Cartoonist and the Rothmans Gold Medal for Editorial Cartoonist.

Brown’s cartoons are not only funny, but they also provide a valuable social commentary on the issues of the day. They are a reminder that cartoons can be a powerful tool for expressing dissent and holding the powerful to account.

chrisl
chrisl
January 28, 2024 11:05 am

A bit of an incident at the local ?? Australia Day celebrations
The headline read “ACADEMIC BOOED OFF STAGE”
Apparently the professor ( and co-chair of Reconciliation Victoria) started “truth telling “ during his speech and the crowd started heckling and booing and telling a few truths of their own .
He was shut down by the organisers ( The Lions Club)
Professor Gunstone was said to be despondent.
He stepped out of his bubble…

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 28, 2024 11:06 am

Must have come as bit of a surprise for Jodie to discover Luigi was all “cockhead”* and no balls………………… *H/T Black Ball, PHD, author of the the worlds most succinct thesis ever, as compared to Jug Eared Dim Chalmers who fellated the gay clock aficionado PM and got a Treasury out of it yet still doesn’t know what do with one.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 28, 2024 11:07 am
miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:16 am

Professor Gunstone

Doctor of Philosophy – University of Queensland
Master of Public Policy – Deakin University
Master of Educational Studies (Aboriginal Education) – University of South Australia
Graduate Diploma in Arts (Aboriginal Studies) – University of South Australia
Bachelor of Arts (Major: Indigenous Studies) – Monash University

Why would the perfessor want all those whitey post nominals anyway? Hiya ejucashun is an abomination

cohenite
January 28, 2024 11:19 am

Some old but still very valuable info for the ladies:

129 Ways to Get a Husband

Pogria
Pogria
January 28, 2024 11:26 am

Michael Smith has a great pic showing bullets that have been fired into Nasser Hospital by the IDF. snork.

Reminds me of Flat Fatima from Tim Blair’s blog. Too tired to look for the Fatima pic, been mowing all morning. Will try later. Cheers.

Dot
Dot
January 28, 2024 11:27 am

On Australia Day wokeness and our very own magic negras who have a modern day cult built around them:

The funny thing is, if Australian republicans could cast off left wing buffoons like Bandanaman and the Mosman Amphibian, there’s a very good reason to reject woke right before our eyes: much of the welcome to country is simply a glorification of tribal kingship.

I can’t abide by paying respects to elders past, present or future no more than I wish to swear loyalty to Charles Windsor over 27 million mostly goodly Australians.

Like how the Crown is part of one church denomination and cannot be unbiased, as is the ancestor worship woven into the texture of the even shortest but nevertheless long winded welcome to country addresses.

As a civic minded republican, it’s a matter of politeness generally and respect is earnt, not commanded. Furthermore, monarchy, petty as it may be, is properly understood by the citizen as an insult towards them from their elected or not rulers and heads of state.

It’s religious, monarchical, tribal and either separatist or supremacist.

I cannot abide by that.

(Jefferson laser eyes intensify)
(Urge to grant letters of marque and reprisal rising…)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 28, 2024 11:29 am

Why the World in the Future will be Stuffed by this Upcoming Generation!

Nearly 30% of Gen Z adults identify as LGBTQ, national survey finds

About half of the Gen Z adults who identify as LGBTQ identify as bisexual, according to the Public Religion Research Institute report.

More than 1 in 4 Gen Z adults in the U.S. identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender or queer, dwarfing the percentages of LGBTQ Americans in older age groups, a new survey has found.

Twenty-eight percent of Gen Z adults — which the survey’s researchers specify as those ages 18 to 25 — identify as LGBTQ, according to a report released this week by the Public Religion Research Institute, or PRRI. That compares with 10% of all adults, 16% of millennials, 7% of Generation X, 4% of baby boomers and 4% of the Silent Generation, the institute found.

“With respect to LGBTQ identity, it’s very clear that Gen Z adults look different than older Americans,” said Melissa Deckman, PRRI’s chief executive.

In its LGBTQ identity breakdown, the report found 72% of Gen Z adults identified as straight, 15% as bisexual, 5% as gay or lesbian and 8% as something else.

Researchers also found that Gen Z adults were more ethnically and racially diverse than older generations and less likely to affiliate with established religions. Gen Z adults, along with millennials, were also more likely to identify as LGBTQ than Republican, the survey found.

PRRI’s new survey, which included more than 6,600 participants, was conducted in August and September.

The findings are in line with those of other major surveys, including Gallup’s, that show Gen Z is the queerest adult generation to date.

In its most recent poll, released in February of last year, Gallup found 7.2% of adults in the U.S. identify as LGBTQ, including nearly 20% of those in Gen Z, which that survey defined as those ages 19 to 26.

billie
January 28, 2024 11:30 am

We got Albo because Scomo was such a dud and never should have been PM.

We got Scomo because Turnbull spitefully put him up to defeat Dutton who should have been PM.

The media are doing the same thing to Dutton that they did to Tony Abbott, but at least Dutton looks like trying less to be liked than the idiot Abbott did.

When Abbott put in that piece of crap Greg Combet from Labor into a role looking into the SPC debacle and Democrat what’s her name Natasha into Global Role for Womens, I knew he had forgotten why he was there. He was there to bury these people!

wtf was he being advised at the time?

That anyone would change their mind about him, that the media would look on it generously?

Additionally, I remain unconvinced Peta Credlin was any good at her job.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 28, 2024 11:31 am

I gave “Masters of the Air” two minutes yesterday. … Not sure I can be bothered.

Modern audiences would not have the close link to WW2 that viewers of Twelve O’clock High would’ve. So maybe it had to be reduced somewhat. Kids these days barely know any history at all.

I just read this one:

‘Masters of the Air’ Soars to New Heights of WWII Storytelling (25 Jan)

Christian viewers might be disappointed in some aspects of Masters of the Air. F-bombs are about as common as the incendiary bombs dropped throughout the series, which is probably justified in the name of realism but still (in my view) a bit excessive.

That sounds quite realistic from my experience! Military communication tends to use twice as many words as necessary. Then I went into the mining industry… 😀

miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:31 am

Glass half full Old Ozzie- over 70% of Gen Z adults don’t identify as LBGTQxxxx.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 28, 2024 11:31 am

It seems there is another boycott on. This time it is RipCurl

They previously sponsored a one armed female surfer. She has been dumped for a man posing as a woman.

Not seen anything in mainstream media but spreading fast on Twitter.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 28, 2024 11:34 am

A veritable feast of phuckwittery.

Kevin Rudd has back-pedalled from his strident attacks on Donald Trump, suggesting claims about the damage caused by the former president have been exaggerated as he braces for his potential return to the White House.

In an exclusive interview, Australia’s ambassador to the US outlined his high-level talks with key advisers to Mr Trump, who is all but certain to claim the Republican nomination for an election rematch against President Joe Biden.

The former prime minister said he was “well equipped” to deal with whoever prevailed in November, revealing that Republican friends he had known for decades were preparing to work in a new Trump administration.

But Dr Rudd sounded the alarm about the risk of Mr Trump cutting off military aid to Ukraine, warning it would have “a material effect on the battle space” and that Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping “would be looking very closely” at any US move to walk away from bankrolling the fight against Russia’s illegal invasion.

Prior to taking up the top diplomatic post last March, Dr Rudd had blasted Mr Trump as “nuts”, “the most destructive president in history” and a “traitor to the West”.

But with polls giving the former president a genuine chance to defeat Mr Biden, Australia’s US ambassador suggested at last month’s Davos talkfest that there was “some danger of overstating the degree of damage” Mr Trump caused on the world stage in his first term.

Dr Rudd, in an interview in Washington DC, pointed to key trade and defence deals that were preserved by the former president “despite all of the wind and storm”.

“There are going to be disagreements – that’s just life,” he said.

“That’s the normal business of diplomacy. We usually just conduct them privately.”

The ambassador said he was willing to meet Mr Trump if that was requested before the election, but that he had not sought such talks himself, saying: “The last thing you want to do as a candidate is waste your time with a bunch of well-meaning foreign diplomats.”

Instead, Dr Rudd has engaged with his long-term friends including Mr Trump’s trade representative Robert Lighthizer and national security adviser Robert O’Brien – both of whom have been mooted to take senior roles if Mr Trump returns to power.

“These are fairly normal relationships and there’s a broader set of Republican relationships … which I have accumulated over the decades, really, including a lot of people who have indicated to me privately that they’d go back to work in a Trump administration,” he said.

“In terms of the ability of the Australian government to manage the relationship with whoever wins the next election, Republican or Democrat, we are well equipped for that task.”

Translated: “I will French kiss anyone’s arse, as long as I still remain ambassador.” And you thought ‘Dr’ Rudd would just ride off into the sunset. FMD

miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:34 am

The thing that really disappoints me about Abbott now is that he just fluffs around making speeches to think tanks sorta thing. I would have expected him to keep on fighting.

miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:36 am

Dr Rudd eh. Yuk.

miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:37 am

Who wrote that shite BB?

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 28, 2024 11:37 am

H/T Black Ball, PHD, author of the the worlds most succinct thesis ever

That’s Dr Black Ball GreyRanga. Chortle

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 28, 2024 11:39 am

Tom Minear miltonf. US correspondent for NewsCorp

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 28, 2024 11:41 am

Guess he won’t be doing that again….

Prof Andrew Gunstone booed off stage amid Invasion Day speech

A Reconciliation Victoria leader was booed off stage at an Australia Day event at Anglesea.

Geelong Advertiser

The co-chairman of Reconciliation Victoria says he was heckled and booed off stage while speaking at an Australia Day event at Anglesea.

Professor Andrew Gunstone, also an academic at Federation University, said he was invited to speak at the Lions Club event on January 26 to talk about truth telling.

He said he left the event with a “heavy heart” as the audience seemed “restless”, “bored” and unable to engage with his attempt to educate people on modern day issues facing Indigenous people.

“What my speech was really about is that truth telling is important in this country,” Prof Gunstone said.

“January 26 is a day in which we should spend reflecting on reconciliation, truth and justice in this country.”

Prof Gunstone said he used the word invasion in his speech as he argues this is what occurred on January 26, 1788.

He said he doesn’t view that as a political statement but rather one of fact.

After being heckled and booed during his speech, he said he felt despondent.

“I left really disappointed,” he said.

But, Lions Club Anglesea president Adrian Hunter said Prof Gunstone “overstepped the line” when he brought politics into his speech.

“Anglesea Lions Club has been doing Australia Day for 35 years,” Mr Hunter said.

“We are an organisation that does not permit a platform for guest speakers to deliver political speeches.”

Mr Hunter said it was disappointing that some members of the community reacted the way they did, but asked “why someone would stir up the crowd by speaking about Invasion Day”.

“The people who were sitting there were not interested,” he said.

“They were coming down for Australia Day to celebrate … they weren’t there to hear about a’ yes vote’, or a ‘no vote’,” he said.

Surf Coast Australia Day ambassador Peter Yates spoke after Prof Gunstone and said he had no idea the event would turn into such a protest.

“The problem is, the previous speakers in each previous year have been thoughtful Indigenous people who’ve been helping to share with the community, their experiences, their concerns and their worries,” he said.

“It was nothing about truth telling.

“The topic of Australia Day has been made very controversial by our councils and I don’t think he realised his audience.”

Mr Yates said he apologised to Prof Gunstone on the community’s behalf and also shook his hand as a passing of peace.

“It was disappointing to see an invited speaker heckled off stage.

“It was actually quite embarrassing but apparently the rules of the Lions club are no political speeches. Prof Gunstone may not have known that,” he said.

Geelong Advertiser

miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:41 am

When Abbott put in that piece of crap Greg Combet from Labor into a role looking into the SPC debacle and Democrat what’s her name Natasha into Global Role for Womens

Spot destroyer- yeah absolutely indefensible.

billie
January 28, 2024 11:42 am

Mechanics shortage – indeed. I know of several businesses who cannot get mechanics and a couple who have brought in mechanics from UK at huge expense and not always successfully getting good ones.

The demonisation of fossil fuels is partly to blame for the climate change mindset our young are taught at school from early on.

Everyone has to go to university now or be seen as a failure in life.

The trades are looked down on basically and TAFE’s slow demise reflected that.

The government’s attitude is that we will import mechanics and other trades people we need, but that’s not reflected in the migration to Australia.

BTW – we are also short of electricians and nowhere near enought to deal with all the changes required for net-zero 2030.

What’s our PM worried about, the Voice, the next election and his place in history.

What a dud, classically because it was easy in the union, student politics not to work hard and wandered his way to the position he’s in now.

Albo had no plan for what to do with power, except to hang onto it .. that’s it, that’s all he had and thought the Voice would do it for him.

Now the Voice has failed, he’s buggered, has no clue what to do.

He’ll now bounce from one thing to another reactively or rake through old Labor ctivities for something to do.

Expect more trade shortages and delays for doing any kind of construction or maintenance of our lifestyle.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 11:43 am

Brown’s cartoons are not only funny, but they also provide a valuable social commentary on the issues of the day. They are a reminder that cartoons can be a powerful tool for expressing dissent and holding the powerful to account.

All Cartoons that the Feral Guv’ment doesn’t approve of will likely be classified as “Miss Information” quite soon along with Blog’s that the Guv’ment doesn’t approve of.

1984 and all that in 2024.

miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:43 am

Tom Minear miltonf.

Thanks- just astonishing that anyone could write such muck

JC
JC
January 28, 2024 11:45 am

Lefty-land journos are having a hard time of it these days.

On January 23, Anna Wintour was in Paris, taking in the Armani Privé couture show from the front row at the Palais de Tokyo. Meanwhile, back at the ranch in lower Manhattan, her staff at Condé Nast had broken into open revolt, picketing on the West Side Highway outside the company’s headquarters at One World Trade. A series of union members riled up the crowd. “Be brave, be courageous, do some wild shit, because right now, those suits upstairs are at their meeting table, snickering about how all of you are weak,” said one. “Is that true, are you weak?” “Nooooo!” the crowd bellowed back.

It is an especially miserable time to be employed there — and nearly everywhere else in media. Lately it has felt like much of the media industry has been put through a trash compactor: Time magazine had layoffs, and Sports Illustrated was essentially euthanized. The day of the Condé strike, the L.A. Times axed more than 20 percent of its newsroom; two days after the strike, Business Insider announced it was laying off 8 percent of its staff. The Washington Post just bought out 240 employees. It has dawned on journalists that journalism might all but cease to exist in the near future — and that whatever form it takes is being shaped by executives who have no clear idea how to create a sustainable business.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 28, 2024 11:46 am

Boambee John Jan 28, 2024 9:32 AM
“Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jan 27, 2024 7:56 PM
Er.. (cough… cough) Flying Office Lloyd Trigg, RNZAF, V.C., D.F.C.,”

Cough, cough, the Captain of HMS Glowworm, recommended by the Captain of the German ship he rammed.

Be fair!
The skipper of HMS Glowworm got a mention nine minutes later, in my comment of 8:05 PM. (more detail to be found at 8:05 PM last night) 🙂

And Snap! or something.

miltonf
miltonf
January 28, 2024 11:48 am

THis whole attack on Australia Day not about Aboriginal advancement- it’s academic marxism and international socialism. Nothing Australian about it all. Poison, evil ideas imported from the Frankfurt skool.

JC
JC
January 28, 2024 11:48 am

Doesn’t need Viagra anytime the military in mentioned.

JC
JC
January 28, 2024 11:50 am

Medical definition: military induced erection.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 28, 2024 11:55 am

Tony Abbott isn’t that bright but he learned how to fake sincerity. Also jailed Pauline Hanson.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 28, 2024 11:56 am

Dutton has an honorary doctorate I assume. Not sure what the rules are about using the title but have the feeling that it is discouraged to distinguish between one earned and one bestowed as an honour.

Knowing Krudd, on the other hand, I have no doubt he blew a pretty penny getting all his stationary reprinted and getting special made silk pyjamas covered with “Dr. Kevin Rudd”.

Has he also set out a list of the ‘damage’ done by Trump in his first term? Or is it just the mayhem caused by people who were angry he won – so it would be like blaming adults for kids throwing their toys out of their cot because they want more and more lollies.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 28, 2024 12:04 pm

Dutton has an honorary doctorate I assume.

Sorry, that should have read Krudd.

No idea why I typed Dutton – he was not even in the text Black Ball PhD had posted.

bons
bons
January 28, 2024 12:06 pm

It is going to be interesting to see how the membership of theTexas National Guard respond if Obiden nationalises them.

shatterzzz
January 28, 2024 12:06 pm

The thing that really disappoints me about Abbott now is that he just fluffs around making speeches to think tanks sorta thing. I would have expected him to keep on fighting.

HOW DARE YOU..! the poor bloke’s gotta earn a quid .. otherwise all he’s got to get by on is his PM’s rip-off and associated freebies whereas on the international wafflers circuit he getz umpteen dollars, free air/accomodation & meals all for an hour’s gabfesting her e& there ….. fighting on don’t pay the bills ………!

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 12:06 pm

Not sure what the rules are about using the title but have the feeling that it is discouraged to distinguish between one earned and one bestowed as an honour.

Recipients of honourary doctorates are not entitled to call themselves “Doctor” nor should they be referred to as such by others excepting the university that awarded the honour.

Rudd’s doctorate from Oxford is earned, in that he wrote a thesis, although I suspect he was given an exemption from the usual coursework.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 28, 2024 12:08 pm

chrisl at 11:05 – sounds like the have picked up on the incident Gottliebsen described in his column in Teh Weekend Paywallian out in regional Victoriastan, Anglesea I think. The Prof must have thought he was among friends but clearly not all the locals priced out yet.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 12:10 pm

Black Ball
Jan 28, 2024 11:34 AM
A veritable feast of phuckwittery.

Kevin Rudd has back-pedalled from his strident attacks on Donald Trump, suggesting claims about the damage caused by the former president have been exaggerated as he braces for his potential return to the White House.

The KRudd is now a Doctor – A Doctor of Philosophy –

Kevin is now ‘Dr Rudd’ after penning a 420-page study of Xi Jinping: Sun-Herald

https://kevinrudd.com/media/kevin-is-now-dr-rudd-after-penning-420-page-study-of-xi-jinping-sun-herald#:~:text=Kevin%20Rudd%20will%20receive%20a%20Doctor%20of%20Philosophy,after%20penning%20a%20420-page%20thesis%20on%20Xi%E2%80%99s%20worldview.

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 12:12 pm

It is going to be interesting to see how the membership of theTexas National Guard respond if Obiden nationalises them.

Indeed, although there is still the question as to whether the circumstances meet the constitutional requirements.

Much of this is being driven by the contemptible Beto O’Rourke.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 28, 2024 12:15 pm

Thanks, Rog.

People who have never met him before might form a more positive impression of him than he can sustain once they speak to him.

For the rest of us the title does not elevate Rudd, but Rudd diminishes the title.

I suspect at some point Cambridge and Oxford had a bet and the loser had let Krudd score a PhD.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 28, 2024 12:15 pm

Robots are racist.

Why are so many robots white? (Phys.org, 26 Jan)

Rates of diagnoses for autism in children of color are now higher than for white kids in the U.S. Many of these children could end up interacting with white robots.

We should legally require all robots to be green or blue, since I don’t know of any humans of those colours, other than Smurfs.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 28, 2024 12:20 pm

Purple robots would be OK. Maybe gay like the Teletubby.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 28, 2024 12:20 pm

Top Ender at 11:41.

But, Lions Club Anglesea president Adrian Hunter said Prof Gunstone “overstepped the line” when he brought politics into his speech.

“Anglesea Lions Club has been doing Australia Day for 35 years,” Mr Hunter said.

But who invited Gunstone to speak?
Did Mr Hunter (or Mrs Hunter) think it would be a lark to give a bit of Pascoe-history to a captive and silent audience but wasn’t prepared for the overt backlash?

cohenite
January 28, 2024 12:22 pm

The findings are in line with those of other major surveys, including Gallup’s, that show Gen Z is the queerest adult generation to date.

Queer used to mean fuked in the head.

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 12:23 pm

People who have never met him before might form a more positive impression of him than he can sustain once they speak to him.

I’ve never had the pleasure but my wife has. Her impression was that he is able to mimic a normal human being at a superficial level.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 28, 2024 12:23 pm

Doctoral tongue baths of former despots are a popular topic clearly.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 28, 2024 12:25 pm

Her impression was that he is able to mimic a normal human being at a superficial level

Australian Zuck.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 28, 2024 12:31 pm

Indigenous boss: WA tourist hotspots like Wave Rock or Horizontal Falls could be closed off or renamed
Rebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Sun, 28 January 2024 2:00AM
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Some of WA’s natural drawcards such as Wave Rock and Horizontal Falls will inevitably be partly closed off to tourists and renamed, the boss of the State’s peak body for Indigenous tourism believes.

Amid strong demand from international travellers for authentic First Nations cultural experiences, WA Indigenous Tourism Operators Council chief executive Robert Taylor argues restrictions are necessary to protect both country and tourists.

A push is also on to shift to more dual naming of tourist hotspots before phasing out the newer names — in the same way Uluru replaced Ayers Rock.

Mr Taylor said visitors would “definitely” have to get used to such changes, supporting Dambimangari Aboriginal Corporation’s recent call to ban permanently all vessels going through gaps at the Kimberley’s spectacular Horizontal Falls after a tourist boat careered into rocks in 2022.

Known as Garaanngaddim, the narrowest gap was temporarily closed last year while a 12-month consultation was undertaken after 18 people were badly injured in the crash.

But the traditional owners, who jointly manage the falls with the State Government, emerged from the talks saying they wanted to minimise impacts on cultural heritage values by restricting access to popular destinations, adding that tourists would still be able to visit Talbot Bay and observe the falls.

DAC says the closure will remain in place in 2024 but it wants “a multi-year staged closure that incorporates feedback and provides clear time frames to account for forward bookings and enable businesses to plan for change”.

First Nations cultural experiences….a night time walking tour of Roebourne or Kalgoorlie?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 12:35 pm

129 Ways to Get a Husband

That’s the sort of stuff that was around in 1958 when I was a teenager. Girls knew then that their job was to get a husband if they wanted a family, and most did want that (I think they still do but aren’t told so these days). I wanted to get educated first, and that wasn’t a mistake because it opened up wider social worlds for me and you tend to marry the people you mix with.

Quite a lot of the 129 ways were not unrealistic, especially for the times.

On the magazine’s cover is a very pretty picture of Attapuss as a kitten. 🙂

JC
JC
January 28, 2024 12:37 pm

On the magazine’s cover is a very pretty picture of Attapuss as a kitten. ?

Liz, the Cat is 97 years old?

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 28, 2024 12:38 pm

Amid strong demand from international travellers for authentic First Nations cultural experiences…

To be had for free in Darwin and many other northern towns and cities.

If female you can get mugged near a lot of small shops. If a bloke you can get called a “white c…” for not handing over money at supermarkets.

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 12:38 pm

The findings are in line with those of other major surveys, including Gallup’s, that show Gen Z is the queerest adult generation to date.

Nature or nurture?

If they were really “born this way” you’d expect the numbers to be stable (and relatively insignificant) over time.

A perverse culture is nurturing sexual deviancy.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 28, 2024 12:41 pm

P, good fortune for Boyup Brook. A word of warning though, it was from ABC NEWS. It’ll make you go blind if looking at it for too long.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 12:43 pm

Known as Garaanngaddim, the narrowest gap was temporarily closed last year while a 12-month consultation was undertaken after 18 people were badly injured in the crash.

Goodness. We’ve done that falls trip between the gap in 2017 or thereabouts. I thought it was terrifying and likely dangerous, although i was assured otherwise. I hadn’t heard of this recent accident. I don’t think going through these falls should be stopped though. Just offer passengers warnings and provide some alternatives for nervous nellies. I don’t have a problem with some dual naming of a few key sites, as tourists do like to feel the aboriginal history, but don’t do it everywhere, and keep it ‘dual’, so that pioneer history too is protected.

JC
JC
January 28, 2024 12:44 pm

A perverse culture is nurturing sexual deviancy.

Do you think, or is it kids just fcking with the interviewers? I can’t imagine anyone can be coaxed into being a pillow biter by some idiot teacher talking about how it’s okay.

What are the unrevealed preferences with these young people actually having homo sex?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 12:45 pm

A perverse culture is nurturing sexual deviancy.

Yes, that is so. It has happened before too – in ancient Sparta where warriors were expected to form close homosexual bonds with one other, while still having wives and children back at home.

Miltonf
Miltonf
January 28, 2024 12:46 pm

Federation University know in wackademic circles as eff you.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 28, 2024 12:47 pm

BB, I didn’t wish to demean you by putting Dr, as it clearly doesn’t have the gravitas, being anyone can get one in political fellation, not like DBG or DrF and others here who had to do the hard yards.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 12:48 pm

A Reconciliation Victoria leader was booed off stage at an Australia Day event at Anglesea.

I am stoked about that. I wish I was there, I worked in Anglesea for a few years up until the Covid tyranny. There are plenty of woke hippy eco warriors with BIG OIL DON’T SURF stickers on their cars, but they are all blow-ins and mostly transient.

The establishment and old school families etc are all staunch conservatives.. Sucked in to that idiot. He should have given his speech in Torquay.

JC
JC
January 28, 2024 12:51 pm

Google serach para at the top.

Within this segment, over half identify as bisexual, while roughly one in five identify as gay, one in seven as lesbian, and one in 10 as transgender. Other identities, such as queer, pansexual, or asexual, represented 1% to 2% of the surveyed adults.2 June 2023

I’m calling bullshit. Biomechanics is really hard to push around. We saw a version of that after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the collapse of communism. People generally reverted to normal human ways of life and general attitudes.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 28, 2024 12:52 pm

Damn it! Now I have to add Frankfurters to my boycott list.

“Nothing Australian about it all. Poison, evil ideas imported from the Frankfurt skool”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 28, 2024 12:55 pm

I believe Torquay is the HQ or birthplace of RipCurl. Must be something in the water.

“He should have given his speech in Torquay”

Meanwhile I have a new team to support. Go the Geelong Lions!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 12:59 pm

What are the unrevealed preferences with these young people actually having homo sex?

My sons tell me there is definitely pressure now towards sexual experimentation, more than they encountered in their adolescences, from the mid-80’s to the early 2000’s, although it was a pressure back then too. One son says back then an experimental night was something of a rite de passage which some straight young men paradoxically did to assure themselves they weren’t gay. They think these days kids are encouraged to call themselves gay and to view sexual experiment as part of normality, and that most of them are normal kids caught in a need for strong cultural approval so they claim gayness even when they are not. Heterosexuality usually wins, but the culture can leave a lot of people confused.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 1:01 pm

If I take too long to write something or move away for a whle and submit it I get a ‘failure to establish a database connection’ result. Have to copy before I submit things.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 1:02 pm

Yet, still the comment gets up. Interesting.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 28, 2024 1:05 pm

Many people will claim to be decliners* for the same reasons they put down ‘Jedi’ as their religion at census time.

It’s a pisstake. This is also why we have teenagers at school identifying as cats, which forces the teaching establishment to take them seriously when prior to that the process was all conceptual. The kids are making them dance, that’s all.

*Vagina decliners.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 28, 2024 1:06 pm

Which are we going to see first or not at all?

Joe Rogan going on Tucker Carlson show

Or

Tucker Carlson going on Joe Rogan show.

Which would be better?

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 1:07 pm

I can’t imagine anyone can be coaxed into being a pillow biter by some idiot teacher talking about how it’s okay.

Neither can I, but we’re not impressionable teenagers subject to 12+ years of indoctrination in this stuff from kindergarten onwards.

Cassie of Sydney
January 28, 2024 1:07 pm

billie
Jan 28, 2024 11:30 AM

Well said, billie.

I knew he had forgotten why he was there. He was there to bury these people!

Yes, it became apparent within weeks of his landslide election. It wasn’t just the Stott Destroyer appointment, it was also also his refusal to accept the resignation of Bill Shorten’s mother-in-law. Bryce’s position became untenable the moment her son-in-law became Labor leader but the Liberals played Queensberry Rules, fat lot of good it did them.

Additionally, I remain unconvinced Peta Credlin was any good at her job.

I agree. I think she controlled Abbott too much, which isn’t just an indictment on her, it’s also an indictment on Abbott’s spinelessness.

Sometimes I think I’m too harsh on Tony Abbott but then I remember his failings as PM and I get angry. Abbott is a nice man but his tenure as PM was one of wimpiness. Actually, it was disastrous, he laid the foundations for almost nine years of do nothing Liberal governments. Everyday he allowed his critics to crucify. There was no mojo in him when he was PM, he refused to fight. You have to fight the left, you have to fight them every minute, every hour, every day, every week, every month, and every year.

He didn’t fight on 18C, he didn’t even fight on that first budget. And yes, I know about the senate situation however he should have called their bluff and called a double dissolution when the senate rejected parts of that first budget.

Tony Abbott as PM did not fight.

Pogria
Pogria
January 28, 2024 1:08 pm

Welcome to the era of Holocaust envy. The fashionable thing to do in the 2020s is not to deny the Shoah but to covet it – covet its pain, covet its historical enormity. From the trans lobby to Muslim activist groups, they all want some Holocaust. ‘If [I had] been in Nazi Germany, I would have been murdered for saying that I was trans’, says comedian Eddie Izzard. This, surely, is the nadir of victim politics: a wealthy, privileged man in a dress fantasising that, like the Jews, he’d have been marched to the gas chambers. You, a white-skinned, blond-haired bloke who is the darling of the bourgeoisie? Fuck off.

Brendan O’neill has delivered an excellent spray on the rise and rise of holocaust envy.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 1:08 pm

I think one of the really sad things for young women these days is that so many men are declaring for gayness when what they are on about is really just socially sanctioned extreme randiness and experimentation. Rather than seeing this as a phase, rather as the old LUGs (Lesbians Until Graduation) were in my day, young men are seduced (literally) into thinking of their sexual profligacy as some sort of biological homo-imperative rather than just yoof and testosterone doing what it does naturally. They culturally then lock themselves out of a heterosexual pathways to marriage and a family and leave many young women unable to normally attract some of the most attractive males. Hijacked into abnormality by old blokes with agendas, imho.

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 1:09 pm

Heterosexuality usually wins, but the culture can leave a lot of people confused.

The marked rise in ‘gender dysphoria’ is a parallel cultural phenomenon.

Morsie
Morsie
January 28, 2024 1:10 pm

I recall Warren Brown was involved in a series of practical jokes with Bill Leake, one of which involved unscrewing a video cassette, inserting some prawns and reassembling it.
I believe there was also a hiding of a dozen eggs .

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 1:10 pm

I believe Torquay is the HQ or birthplace of RipCurl. Must be something in the water.

Correct.

And they are a bunch of tossers. I have recently worked in Torquay at two establishments and have done a few functions for their staff.

Went to their main shop where all the big surf brands are centered on the main road in Torquay. This was Covid time. I was taking my daughter to buy some clothes or whatever for her birthday. Some young sheila on the door said we couldn’t come in because we weren’t wearing masks.

We went to Strapper. Nobody there gave a rats. All the kids working there had their masks around their chins.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 1:11 pm

You have to fight the left, you have to fight them every minute, every hour, every day, every week, every month, and every year.

In a word, Trump. And others of like mind in Europe .. and Argentina.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 1:18 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 28, 2024 12:31 PM
Indigenous boss: WA tourist hotspots like Wave Rock or Horizontal Falls could be closed off or renamed
Rebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Sun, 28 January 2024 2:00AM
Comments

I would like to propose that all peoples that call/deem themselves Aboriginal also adopt/implement their Aboriginal names. So no more ‘Aunty Shirley Brown’ or ‘Uncle Bruce Pascoe’. And that those Aboriginal names be in the language (around 300 plus said languages apparently) of the so called/deemed Aboriginal.

Just for authenticity and all that yer’ know. It just goes better with the place names dontcha’ know.

Truth telling and all that stuff.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 1:22 pm

BB, I didn’t wish to demean you by putting Dr, as it clearly doesn’t have the gravitas, being anyone can get one in political fellation, not like DBG or DrF and others here who had to do the hard yards.

Yes, like my own Dr. Herr Professor, Hairy, PhD Science and a research Chair.
A lot of very hard yards.
As contrasted to PhD’s in Nana Tales or Climate Fakery.

Indolent
Indolent
January 28, 2024 1:30 pm
P
P
January 28, 2024 1:31 pm

Warren Brown’s touching tribute to mate Bill Leak
March 10, 2017

A HEARTFELT tribute to one of our greatest artists Bill Leak, who died yesterday aged 61, written in tears by his friend and fellow cartoonist, the Saturday Telegraph’s Warren Brown.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 1:33 pm

Neither can I, but we’re not impressionable teenagers subject to 12+ years of indoctrination in this stuff from kindergarten onwards.

Absolutely. Another arena where this happened is in traditional British boarding schools, where a definite sub-culture of ‘fagging’ and being a ‘fag’ existed and similarly condoned homosexual behaviours, with even the teaching staff sometimes being a part of it. Many young boys survived this culture, but some did not and its effects lingered throughout life. The very gorgeous Greek God and charming young man I had a relationship with during the interegnum between two marriages was a case in point. Basically heterosexual, but carrying that boarding school culture still.

I do think some men are intrinsically gay, and have felt so since childhood. Who knows why, but a certain effeminacy can prevail. Same for butch women. It’s not very common. Otherwise, a lot of it is cultural, often adolescent imprinting. Same goes for gender dysphoria. It does exist in both men and women, but it is rare. Today’s nonsense is largely cultural.

cohenite
January 28, 2024 1:35 pm

Queerness is gender independent. There are many queer men but these queer women are oddly calming:

The Angelic Initiative.

I find those arm movements strangely sexual.

Indolent
Indolent
January 28, 2024 1:37 pm
cohenite
January 28, 2024 1:37 pm

Speaking of queerness; the good professor who was booed off the stage at an Australia celebration looks about as queer as you can be:

Prof Andrew Gunstone booed off stage amid Invasion Day speech

Indolent
Indolent
January 28, 2024 1:38 pm

Netanyahu: We will eliminate the new Nazis

Jewish people here are saying he has to go. I heard one person say that he won’t resign because he’d be put in jail. That’s how brainwashed they are.

Indolent
Indolent
January 28, 2024 1:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
January 28, 2024 1:43 pm
Indolent
Indolent
January 28, 2024 1:48 pm

Jordan Peterson joins Tucker on stage at the Oilers arena in Edmonton, Canada. Moderated by Conrad Black. The full presentation.

Tucker Carlson Tonight 1/27/24

Vicki
Vicki
January 28, 2024 1:48 pm

Tony Abbott as PM did not fight.

I have to agree with you Callie. It was a shock – because he formerly had the reputation as a fighter for his beliefs. And I like him personally. He is a fine man.

But he disappointed me terribly as PM. I think he wanted to be fair to everyone – maybe a good Christian trait, but a PM needs to be so much more. He needed him to fight the good fight, and push back on the wokeness that was developing.

And just incidentally, he did f-all, as far as I can see, on getting a damn decent bridge at the Spit – condemning the good citizens of the Northern Beaches to that infernal raising of the bridge to let a couple of boats out to the other side.

chrisl
chrisl
January 28, 2024 1:56 pm

I happen to know three people who were at the Australia Day event in Anglesea ( two of them were there to recite poetry) . One is a member of The Lions Club ( who organised the event ) It will be interesting to hear their side of the story.

Frank
Frank
January 28, 2024 2:05 pm

I can’t imagine anyone can be coaxed into being a pillow biter by some idiot teacher talking about how it’s okay.

Hope not at least, it would be a sin for any self respecting teenager to believe their teachers about anything, outside of algebra and grammar. Even there one should remain sceptical.

It used to be 1-3 % that were gay so if 30% now claim that status it neatly identifies the level of susceptibility. That is, 27% are willing to smoke pole to fit in. Hopefully they can remind themselves of how cool they feel with every downward motion of the head.

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 2:10 pm

Today’s nonsense is largely cultural.

Kinsey kicked it off.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 2:12 pm

Not raining in Brisbane. That’s good. Test match will be decided. Aussies $1.10 if I was a bookie.

Windies had a good crack. I respect that, because half are shield cricketers making up the numbers, whilst four or five of their best fly around the world getting big coin for playing T20 and wearing diamond earrings.

Real cricketers play test cricket.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 28, 2024 2:16 pm

I’ve kind of lost track.
On the great 18 months to four years timeline before we all die, how long have we got left?

Frank
Frank
January 28, 2024 2:21 pm

Next Wednesday I think.

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 2:27 pm

Not raining in Brisbane. That’s good. Test match will be decided.

I take it you’re not a Brisbanite.

😀

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 28, 2024 2:28 pm

Indolent
Jan 28, 2024 1:48 PM
Jordan Peterson joins Tucker on stage at the Oilers arena in Edmonton, Canada. Moderated by Conrad Black. The full presentation.

Cheers for that.

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 2:32 pm

What does the “Unable to Establish Database” error mean?

I’ve cleared the cache, so it can’t be that. It only ever happens on this site.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 28, 2024 2:32 pm

Just finished rewatching Animal Kingdom. I thought it good when it came out, now its even better. How come we’re not not seeing Aussie movies of this calibre anymore.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 2:34 pm

I’ve kind of lost track.

I’m getting a vibe it is soon Leigh. Where the Book of Revelation mentions the sky going red, I assume that is the sun turning Supernova.

Unless you are one of those that live in under ground places or under the oceans with a UFO on hand, we are all going to God.

Except for those of us who will be raptured.

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 2:35 pm

Okay. Just looked it up. It’s an error at the server end in the config file in WordPress. Nothing to do with my device or settings.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 28, 2024 2:37 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 28, 2024 2:40 pm

calli
Jan 28, 2024 2:32 PM
What does the “Unable to Establish Database” error mean?

I’ve cleared the cache, so it can’t be that. It only ever happens on this site.

It’s a pain in the arse. Not Dover’s fault.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 28, 2024 2:40 pm

Has anyone seen The Dry or the new one Force of Nature? Written by Jane Harper. Excellent writer. She writes about country Australia so well you can taste the dust.

Roger
Roger
January 28, 2024 2:42 pm

Any military Cats need a giggle?

I’d have been tempted to send it to the ABC weekend news kiddies and see if it got a run.

Tom
Tom
January 28, 2024 2:42 pm

I have to agree with you Callie. It was a shock – because he formerly had the reputation as a fighter for his beliefs. And I like him personally. He is a fine man.

But he disappointed me terribly as PM.

The basic problem was that Peta Credlin ran Abbott as if he was a grenade that could go off at any time so she had to censor his every word. Credlin’s MO was based on distrust of Abbott’s motives.

She treated him as if she was his mother and that worked because Abbott was and still is surrounded by women at home.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 28, 2024 2:43 pm

What does the “Unable to Establish Database” error mean?

It’s a PhP error on the server. Often a timing problem where one bit of code to handle data jumps the queue before the connection to the data has occurred. Adding a short delay of maybe a quarter second in the right place can sometimes fix it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 28, 2024 2:50 pm

How Bomber Command was airbrushed from history

Timid politicians cancelled the important role Bomber Command played in WWII after a devastating attack on the city of Dresden which killed 25,000 people.
By jacquelin magnay
From The Weekend Australian Magazine
1 hour ago
4 minute read
57

Bomber Command was ostracised at the end of World War II: the supreme sacrifices of 55,000 aircrew airbrushed from the memory of prime minister Winston Churchill who failed to acknowledge their bravery in his end-of-war 1945 speech.

Even Toowoomba’s Don Bennett, the air vice marshal who led the Pathfinder Force was snubbed for a knighthood unlike other squadron leaders

There was no memorial erected to the Bombers even though the death rate of 44.4 per cent in Bomber Command exceeded the horrific deaths of those in the trenches during the Great War. There was no medal struck.

The reason? A groundswell of horror from the British population about the bombing of Dresden in 1945.

The attack towards the end of the war obliterated the city and killed about 25,000 people.

The four-day Dresden campaign started on February 13, 1945, and sparked fierce moral debate at the time: whether the destruction of such cultural landmarks – in this case a city housing a major rail centre and more than 100 factories working for the German war effort- at the cost of widespread civilian deaths from the firestorms was indeed justified.

Bomber Command’s chief, Arthur “Bomber” Harris, was felt to have taken his campaign of terrorising the German population into submission too far.

Prime Minister Churchill fired off a memo within days: “It seems to me that the moment has come when the question of bombing German cities simply for the sake of increasing the terror, though under other pretexts, should be reviewed. The destruction of Dresden remains a serious query against the conduct of Allied bombing”.

No-nonsense Bennett wouldn’t stand for such criticism from the top brass. In a letter to his men when war in Europe was declared over, he wrote: “Bomber Command’s share in this great effort has been a major one. You, each one of you, have made that possible. The Pathfinder Force has shouldered a grave responsibility. It has led Bomber Command, the greatest striking force ever known. That we have been successful can be seen in the far-reaching results which the Bomber offensive has achieved. That is the greatest reward the Path Finder Force ever hopes to receive, for those results have benefited all law-abiding peoples.”

Yet it would take many decades for the emotional debates about the bombers to subside.

Five years after Harris’ death, and 50 years since taking charge of Bomber Command, a statue of Harris was erected in 1992, just outside of the Australian High Commission in the Strand in St Clement’s Dane Church. While veterans were being served tea in the Courts of Justice opposite, protesters tipped red paint over the statue.

Then three years ago, during the Black Lives Matter protests and a targeting of statues, English Heritage reviewed its description of the Harris monument, claiming some say Harris was guilty of war crimes. They claimed Harris became the focus of criticism almost immediately because he was consistent and vociferous in the belief that targeting industrial cities would shorten the war and save lives.

But, in 2012, 67 years after the end of the war, Queen Elizabeth II opened a $10m 2.7m tall bronze memorial to Bomber Command in Green Park. Brisbane’s pop star Robin Gibb, of the Bee Gees, and Jim Dooley of The Dooleys had spearheaded a five-year, multimillion-dollar fundraising campaign to honour the courage of the bomber crews.

Mr Gibb sadly died of cancer just before the royal opening, but he had the chance to see the carving of the statue, which shows a crew returning from a bombing mission.

“This is honestly the proudest thing I’ve ever done,” Mr Gibb said back then. “It was so important to finally see that the brave airmen who risked their lives every night to fly bombing raids over Germany and shorten the war were finally honoured, and now it is happening. This memorial is bigger than even the Wellington Memorial and will still be here long after we are gone. It will last forever.”

Ninety-nine year old Dick Raymond from North Wales was a Path Finder in the 83rd squadron, and had bombed cities like Berlin and Nurembourg. He was in a German prisoner of war camp when the Dresden raid took place.

“After the war I became member of an aircrew association and they had bombed Dresden at the end of the war and I said at one of our meetings, ‘they should never have bombed Dresden, a beautiful old city on the edge of the Rhine, with real history, and the war is about to end’, and they said to me, ‘how did you know the war was about to end?’

“Of course they were quite right.”

Mr Raymond found the obliteration of Dresden to be problematic because of the strategy of sending in an American formation to bomb the city in daylight after two waves of Lancasters had already done their work. It wasn’t so much the bombing of the city, but the emphatic nature of it that he felt was controversial.

“Well there was nothing left to bomb,’’ he said.

Mr Raymond said he knew that the Lancasters, of which he was a crewman, were the planes which delivered the biggest bombs killing German men, women and children.

“The only way I can console myself about that is the Nazi concentration camps … it was absolutely horrendous,’’ he said.

He added: “Trainloads of men, women and children taken into a gas chamber, train load after train load. A man called Hitler that shouted he wanted to eradicate a whole race: oh God.’’

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 2:58 pm

Has anyone seen The Dry or the new one Force of Nature?

No. But saw a good review of it on TV early today. Eric Bana and the old chick who is Huge Ackman’s beard are in it, so it would be a quality production. They also interviewed the young women in it. Said it was a crazy shoot etc. Looked good.

shatterzzz
January 28, 2024 3:00 pm

What does the “Unable to Establish Database” error mean?
I’ve cleared the cache, so it can’t be that. It only ever happens on this site.

Happens to me, occasionally, running BRAVE I just change sites for a few seconds then come back and it’s all good again …….!

areff
areff
January 28, 2024 3:06 pm

“he wanted to be fair to everyone”

Blame the Jesuits at Riverview. Tony was unlucky enough to encounter the guitar-whacking good-in-everyone-if-you-look-hard-enough Jacks.

Ten years earlier there would still have been enough SJs to whack some sense into him, at least to the extent of recognising evil lives in the hearts of men, it’s just a matter of quantity and degree.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 28, 2024 3:12 pm

From the “Quadrant website, on the subject of “Australia Day.”

Biggles

Have you noticed that the ‘Invasion Day’ protesters are invariably poorly-educated, self-hating, hysterical young women on government support who couldn’t run a cold bath, let alone a business? Broken-down Australian society and the education system has failed these people.

shatterzzz
January 28, 2024 3:13 pm

Getting by on a pollie’s wages .. tuff life .. FFS!

https://icacpls.github.io/interests/peter-dutton.html

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 28, 2024 3:15 pm

Interesting article about Boeing:

https://www.rt.com/business/591332-boeing-wall-street-profit/

Hard to see where the company goes from here. Commercial airliners with a cloud over them, no new designs, space business (Starliner capsule) best not talked about, defense -we’ll see if they get the nod for NGAD, I doubt it.
Company somewhat protected because Airbus has full order books and can’t deliver you an aircraft soonish.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 28, 2024 3:15 pm

I believe Torquay is the HQ or birthplace of RipCurl. Must be something in the water.

Rip Curl was fine for a while there (even Billabong and Quicksilver). The problem came when the founders attempted to cash out. I used to get a new Rip Curl surf mat every summer as the old one would inevitably perish under the house over winter.

Pogria
Pogria
January 28, 2024 3:17 pm

I posted an excerpt earlier from an article by Brendan O’neil. It is in moderation, I think because it contained the word f*ck. The rise and rise of holocaust envy.
Well worth the read. Quite frightening actually.

Crossie
Crossie
January 28, 2024 3:43 pm

It is an especially miserable time to be employed there — and nearly everywhere else in media. Lately it has felt like much of the media industry has been put through a trash compactor: Time magazine had layoffs, and Sports Illustrated was essentially euthanized.

No dear, you journalists put the media through the trash compactor and now wonder why it looks like trash that nobody wants.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 3:43 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 28, 2024 2:50 PM
How Bomber Command was airbrushed from history

Timid politicians cancelled the important role Bomber Command played in WWII after a devastating attack on the city of Dresden which killed 25,000 people.
By jacquelin magnay
From The Weekend Australian Magazine

What would anyone expect when there was a World War going on. The Germans were lucky that they didn’t resist long enough for an A Bomb to be dropped on Berlin.

How many civilians died at Hiroshima and Nagasaki with A Bombs? And Tokyo with conventional bombing. FFS.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 3:44 pm

<blockquoteI believe Torquay is the HQ or birthplace of RipCurl. Must be something in the water.

Quiksilver started there too..

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 3:45 pm

Today, humanity’s memory of the Holocaust is assaulted less by the noisy denialism of racist scum than by the jealous claims of victim groups who want some of that glow of victimhood that they think the Jews have been keeping to themselves

Pogria, that article echoes a very similar one linked by Katz yesterday morning.

It’s becoming an epidemic of victimhood, but worse, it’s stolen victimhood.

Industrialised murder, with a view to complete elimination, supported at every level of society, is a unique and horrifying feature of Nazified Europe.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
January 28, 2024 3:47 pm

Top Ender:

“It was actually quite embarrassing but apparently the rules of the Lions club are no political speeches. Prof Gunstone may not have known that,” he said.

He’d have known, he’s just pissed off because he was called for his political bullshit and his attempt to put it onto a stage where it wasn’t accepted.
His kind can’t even have a shit without think of the racist implications of the dunny paper.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 3:49 pm

shatterzzz
Jan 28, 2024 3:00 PM
What does the “Unable to Establish Database” error mean?
I’ve cleared the cache, so it can’t be that. It only ever happens on this site.

It means that HAL has got it into it for you.

Is there anybody out there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIxYe3G3Iz4

Crossie
Crossie
January 28, 2024 3:58 pm

It has dawned on journalists that journalism might all but cease to exist in the near future — and that whatever form it takes is being shaped by executives who have no clear idea how to create a sustainable business.

Not surprised neither journalists nor media executives know how to create a sustainable business, they all went to the same universities who don’t teach it any more. It’s all DEI now which is guaranteed to kill a business, it’s poetic justice that universities are copping it the most.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
January 28, 2024 3:58 pm

bons

Jan 28, 2024 12:06 PM
It is going to be interesting to see how the membership of the Texas National Guard respond if Obiden nationalises them.

I’m not sure, but I understand Texas can immediately enrol them into the Texas Militia. I don’t know what would happen to their equipment, but Biden is welcome to come and take it, if he can.

JC
JC
January 28, 2024 4:00 pm

Reid Hoffman, billionaire co-founder of Linkedin has been funding the E.J. Carol false cases against Trump. Hoffman has links to Epstein. Lord, I hope the Right go after him and show zero mercy. This case has basically done away with the principle of MAD (mutually assured destruction) and now should be open season.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
January 28, 2024 4:04 pm

Several years ago there was a Parade in Melbourne in which scores of Islamic blokes dressed in black with the green headbands had a prominent place.
Many comments were made about the appropriateness of a parade of Hamas Lookalikes in a cultural parade, but it was explained away by the usual apologists saying “It’s like a footy club”.
Does anyone have a photo of said “Footy Club?”

SandyK
SandyK
January 28, 2024 4:05 pm

Hereunder is Paul Craig Robert’s latest article mail around the USA and EU but could just as easily have added AU.
Poor bugger my country!

The Death of Nationality
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The Death of Nationality

Paul Craig Roberts

Ethnicity is the basis of countries. Germany consisted of Germanic people, the German language, and German culture. The same for France. The same for England. The same for the Dutch. The same for Spain. The same for Italy.

The US was the exception. The original English population became multi-European. But a process was in place to assimilate them, and they became American. This tried and true process was abandoned in 1965 when the gates were opened to large scale non-European immigration. Shortly thereafter, the flood of illegal immigration joined the infusions of alien populations into the US. With the ethnic basis of America in decline, multiculturalism became the new value and took the place of assimilation.

Today the America of the past and the former ethnic-based European countries would be called apartheid states. Israel is allowed to have one, but no one else.

The death of Western nationalities is everywhere to be seen. A new sign is the death of national armies. The Biden regime, having driven white heterosexual males from military service by discriminating against them, now speaks of inducting immigrant-invaders in exchange for citizenship. So is Germany. https://www.thedefensepost.com/2024/01/24/germany-enlisting-foreigners-military/?expand_article=1

France, Denmark, and Slovakia already permit foreigners who are not citizens to serve in their armies. In effect, this is reliance on mercenaries and raises questions of security, motivation, and loyalty. It also raises the question of identity. What meaning does a flag have in a Tower of Babel?

A nation is more than a geographical location. `A nation exists where there is an ethnic or racial basis for unity despite class differences. This idea is so far gone in California that the state has passed a law that permits non-citizen immigrant-invaders to serve as police officers, leaving us with the anomaly of non-citizens arresting citizens. As it is the practice of the Biden regime to issue work permits to illegals, immigrant-invaders are qualified to be police officers in California. https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/california-law-allows-non-us-citizens-to-become-police-officers/509-c10419f3-12b1-475e-a6cf-eba00c5337f7

Compare this with the Biden Justice (sic) Department’s challenge to the Texas law that permits Texas police officers who are citizens to arrest and deport illegal aliens. https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-justice-dept-sues-texas-over-immigration-law-2024-01-03/

What the comparison reveals is that citizenship no longer has any meaning. Indeed, citizenship cannot exist in a country without borders. Such a country belongs to whoever walks in.

What does it mean to have a flag and a national anthem when there is no nation? What is the meaning of “national defense” when anyone can walk in?

Cassie of Sydney
January 28, 2024 4:07 pm

Last year I caught up with an old friend. We hadn’t spoken for many years, for numerous reasons. Sometimes friendships wither away, but she contacted me in late 2022 and we caught up over a long, long lunch. Anyway, she’s married, very comfortably well off, resides in a Teal seat, lives in a mansion, drives an EV and of course votes Teal. We didn’t really speak about politics (unusual for me), we touched on a few things here and there but generally avoided it. Anyway, she spoke of her children and particularly her daughter who is now 21 or 22 years old, and studying at university. This old friend is a very candid person (as am I) and she told me how her daughter suffers from anxiety and depression, sees a psychologist weekly, and then she told me that her daughter was a virgin and a lesbian. I remember being taken aback, and I asked her…”how does she know”. I was curious because I think this young girl is awkward and anxious and that lesbianism is a way out for her, particularly so she can avoid boys. Perhaps I’m wrong, however I think most lesbians are created whereas most male homosexuals are born. I regard male homosexuality as almost always a biological condition. Okay, some men are bisexual however I don’t believe it is possible for a man who likes being inside a vagina one day to suddenly, the next day, be a bloke who like to fondle another bloke’s penis. Or maybe I’m wrong!

Or perhaps all of this defined heterosexuality and homosexuality is just societal constructs imposed by two thousand years of Judaic/Christian hetero normative strictures and instead, in a truly pagan world (and we are fast becoming a pagan world again) men can root a woman one day and then root a man the next day, and the same applies to women. Nah, don’t think so, I think that flies in the face of evolution.

But there is one thing I do know, which is that we’re now living in a time where the pillars of religion, which once regarded homosexuality as a sin, aberration and disorder, has collapsed and that young people, particularly girls, are experimenting.

But don’t worry, in the future world to come Islam will deal with such aberrations, disorders and sin, and it will deal with it efficiently and ruthlessly.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
January 28, 2024 4:13 pm

Dr Black Ball, PhD, Catallaxy University.
Has a nice ring to it.
DB could do a profitable line selling those degrees.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 4:15 pm

That little Shamar Joseph can really rip it. As I said the other night, he has only played 4 first class matches for Guyuna. Where did they find him? It is like Lasith Malinga from Sri Lanka who they found playing beach cricket or some shit.

Travis Head golden ducks in both innings. I can’t remember that occurrence before.

Crossie
Crossie
January 28, 2024 4:20 pm

GreyRanga
Jan 28, 2024 2:40 PM
Has anyone seen The Dry or the new one Force of Nature? Written by Jane Harper. Excellent writer. She writes about country Australia so well you can taste the dust.

I have seen the movie and read the book. I saw the sequel, again starring Eric Bana, has been completed and I can’t wait to see it. Harper is a great writer who deserves to be better known.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 4:21 pm

Two sisters inherit the family ranch. Unfortunately, after just a few years, they are in financial trouble. In order to keep the bank from repossessing the ranch, they need to purchase a bull from the stockyard in a far town so that they can breed their own stock. They only have $600 available.

The older sister says, “I’m going to take the bus to the stockyards since you need the pick-up truck. When I get there, if I decide to buy a bull, I’ll contact you to bring the pickup truck and trailer and haul it home.”

The older sister arrives at the stockyard, inspects a bull, and decides she wants to buy it. The man tells her that he will sell it for $599, no less. After paying him, she makes her way to the nearest town to send her sister a telegram telling her the news.

She walks into the telegraph office and says, “I want to send a telegram to my sister, telling her that I’ve bought a bull for our ranch. I need her to hitch the trailer to our pickup truck and drive out here so we can haul it home.”

The telegraph operator said he’ll be glad to help her, then adds, “It’s 99 cents a word.” Well, after paying for the bull, she only had one dollar, enough to send one word.

After a few minutes of thinking, she nods and says, “I want you to send her this word: comfortable.”

The operator shakes his head. ‘How is she ever going to know that you want her to hitch the trailer to the pickup truck and drive out here to haul that bull back to your ranch if you send her just the word “comfortable?”

She explained, “This is a big word for my sister. So she’ll read it very slowly … sounding it out as com-for-da-bull.”

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 28, 2024 4:23 pm

Pogria, that article echoes a very similar one linked by Katz yesterday morning.
It’s becoming an epidemic of victimhood, but worse, it’s stolen victimhood.

Calli, I don’t need or want to argue with your “Holocaust approriation” – I’ve read the term before, but I really do think it’s much more than “approriation”, much more a purposeful intention to deny the centrality of genocide of Jews in the Holocaust and as a particularly notable form of hatred or persecution. It began a while ago with any public proclamation about antisemitism having to include “and racism in general”, or specifically “and Islamophobia”. UN etc couldn’t address antisemitism alone – always needing to dilite it.

The reason – allowing antisemitism as a special case of racism, or the centrality of Jews as the Holocaust, would infringe on positioning Palestinians on that pedestal and weaken the role of constant negative votes to disenfranchise Israel in the UN. I believe it’s been strategic, and it’s obviously been succsessful.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 28, 2024 4:25 pm

KD get in here and explain yourself.
King pair for Straya’s future crickit captain?

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
January 28, 2024 4:27 pm

Indolent:
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2024/01/poll_finds_elites_want_strict_rationing_of_gas_meat_electricity_freedom.html
I think the poll was incorrect. They want:
“An astonishing 77% of the Elites – including almost 90% of the Elites who graduated from the top universities – favor rationing of our energy, our gas, and our meat to combat their climate change.”
Yes. That’s closer.
Note to self – collect burning torches, pitchforks, scythes etc when they finally piss us off too much.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 28, 2024 4:31 pm

Michael Malice
@michaelmalice

Chicago’s population is now the lowest it has been since the 1910s, at a time when the US population was less than a third of what it is today

I haven’t fact checked this.
Good if true.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 28, 2024 4:37 pm

“An astonishing 77% of the Elites – including almost 90% of the Elites who graduated from the top universities – favor rationing of our energy, our gas, and our meat to combat their climate change.”

Amusingly Greta was out yesterday protesting private jets.
I don’t think the Elites are going to like that much, no sirree.

Greta Thunberg protests at UK airport in woke bid to ‘stop private jets’ (27 Jan)

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 28, 2024 4:37 pm

When Abbott put in that piece of crap Greg Combet from Labor into a role looking into the SPC debacle

My better half was in the process of launching a small business of wholesaling a frozen fruit dessert at the time of Abbots reign. Innovative machinery used licenced from overseas with local product. Out of nowhere Coca Cola cries poor over SPC. Abbot turns around and throws them a couple of mil of taxpayer dollars. SPC then launch bigley with their sub-standard machines and wipe out our small business venture. I now have a long list of people, govmints and organisations who can go F emselves. TA is on that list.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 4:37 pm

Shamar Joseph just put one straight through Alex Carey, along with Travis Head earlier.

You don’t see blokes getting clean bowled much in the modern day.

Last time was back in the 90’s when Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis destroyed the Pommies. Stumps cartwheeling many times. There might have been some sandpaper involved , but it was very exciting nonetheless.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 4:41 pm

shatterzzz
Jan 28, 2024 3:00 PM
What does the “Unable to Establish Database” error mean?

It means that you need to keep up with events.

Sign in on a more regular basis and you will work it out. Maybe.

Muddy
Muddy
January 28, 2024 4:44 pm

I’m not sure if this has already been posted (still slightly under the weather, so cannot be buggered scrolling up):

The RipCurl thing
.

[Youtube – The Comments Section with Brett Cooper].

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 28, 2024 4:46 pm

I don’t have a problem with some dual naming of a few key sites, as tourists do like to feel the aboriginal history

I want to acknowledge and thank the WordPress people, the traditional custodians of the web engine on which we stand, and convey my respects to WordPress programmers past, present, and future and any who may be in attendance today.

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 4:47 pm

We don’t need to argue, Katz. We are on the same page. 🙂

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
January 28, 2024 4:49 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Jan 28, 2024 2:37 PM
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/01/palestinians-need-better-liars.html

Any military Cats need a giggle?

Facebook just told me to take that link down.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 28, 2024 4:49 pm

Stumps cartwheeling many times.

One of the great sights in sports.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 28, 2024 4:54 pm

Shamar Joseph just put one straight through Alex Carey, along with Travis Head earlier.

Just got Starc for a fiver. Caught by Kevin Sinclair, who is having an excellent debut Test.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 4:55 pm

You don’t see blokes getting clean bowled much in the modern day.

Rubbish comment.

Women are clean bowling up all the time these daze. Follow the moneeeeeee. LOL.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 4:57 pm

Cap’n Carbon and his Climateers about to be on the receiving end of an ignominious defeat. 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
January 28, 2024 4:58 pm

much more a purposeful intention to deny the centrality of genocide of Jews in the Holocaust and as a particularly notable form of hatred or persecution.

Correct, which is also why I bristle and fume with rage when people argue that the Nazi persecution of ‘homosexuals’ was somehow the same as the Nazi persecution of Jews and gypsies.

The bottom line was that if you were a homosexual in Nazi Germany or Nazi occupied Europe and you kept a low profile, you weren’t hunted down, you weren’t arrested, you weren’t shot in a pit, you weren’t put on a train to a death camp and you weren’t liquidated on arrival at that death camp.

IT WAS NOT THE SAME, NOT EVEN REMOTELY.

But even some in our own Jewish community are not immune from this Holocaust trivialisation. A dear friend of mine, the daughter of an Auschwitz survivor, attended a Holocaust memorial commemoration here at Sydney’s Jewish museum in either 2019 or 2020, and she was furious because some dimwit on the platform equated the Coalition’s border policies with Nazi Germany.

FMD.

And this trivialisation has led to the current situation, where we now have leftist and Muslim scum on our CBD streets calling for another Holocaust against Jews.. For too long our Jewish communal organisations have tried to play footsy with people who hate us, who have always have hated us and who will always hate us…and that is the left and Islam.

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 4:59 pm

Thieves do more than steal your stuff. They violate you. Not usually physically, but your home, your office, your space.

They do it deliberately, cruelly, careless of what it does to you. Sometimes it’s for gain, sometimes in malice.

Stealing a word that describes something deeply personal, that was once seen as universally descriptive of a heinous, unspeakable crime is another way of violating not just the victims, but their heirs (I refer to the Holocaust here). It is used to diminish the original victim, and elevate the substitute.

The warping of language that comes closest, but with daylight between is the new term “sexual assault”. It once meant “rape”. Now it can mean anything activists want it to mean.

Kim Howard
Kim Howard
January 28, 2024 5:01 pm

Is this One-day Cricket? or just an urgency to shame Australia ?, 41 runs and the wicket is very true easy to bat on per say, you would have to be blind to get out, there is today and tomorrow to go what is with the park cricket attitude? Pat Cummings I suspect

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 28, 2024 5:01 pm

Shamar Joseph now sixfer. Cap’n Climate trudges off to his tofu and kale dinner.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:02 pm

Yee-hah!

The Capn’ is gorn! 🙂

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 5:02 pm

calli
Jan 28, 2024 4:59 PM

And your point out of the blue is what?

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 5:02 pm

The more you downtick my comments moron, the more inclined I am to comment.

Got anything to say?

No. I didn’t think so.

Tom
Tom
January 28, 2024 5:03 pm

Wow! Shamar Joseph has sixfer and Captain Climate’s activists are eight down and 40-plus runs short.

Defeat couldn’t happen to a more arrogant pack of rich bastards.

Kim Howard
Kim Howard
January 28, 2024 5:04 pm

On Que, Pat Dark Emu delivers and shits himself

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 5:05 pm

Work it out Rotten.

No…on second thoughts I’ll help you out.

My point is that language is being used as a weapon. As Katz said, this time against the Jews. It is also used against other victims. I gave an example.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:07 pm

Cats – this is how effed collectivism is. In the space of barely twenty years I’ve gone from being a chauvinistic supporter of the Oz cricket team to now fervently barracking against them.

collectivists want to take everything from you that you love, no matter how important or inconsequential those things might be.

Consequently, I want to take everything from them. Including their evil pointless existences.

Rosie
Rosie
January 28, 2024 5:09 pm

Aboriginals continuing to ensure I never ever want to holiday locally.
I’ve probably underestimated Livorno. I’m going to walk the Venice quarter today, visit the markets tomorrow, but there are island day trips I haven’t allowed for.
Livorno got a bit smashed in WWII, I figured as much by the modernity of the covered walkways and buildings on Grande Via.
Happens.

Vicki
Vicki
January 28, 2024 5:10 pm

Calli, I don’t need or want to argue with your “Holocaust approriation” – I’ve read the term before, but I really do think it’s much more than “approriation”, much more a purposeful intention to deny the centrality of genocide of Jews in the Holocaust and as a particularly notable form of hatred or persecution. I

This flagrant accusation of “genocide” that the opponents of Israel routinely use in relation to the operation in Gaza is deliberate and calculated to use the Holocaust in their favour. It is not only outrageous in its comparison, but quite ridiculous in terms of the meaning of the word. Yet, they have cleverly persuaded the non thinkers to accept the comparison.

Genocide is the deliberate campaign to eliminate a particular ethnicity. Let us, again, get this straight. Israel responded to an invasion of Palestinians from Gaza (sanctioned by Hamas the elected governing body) in which over a thousand Israelis were slaughtered. It was an act of war.

Israel responded appropriately under accepted international rules of war in a campaign to destroy Hamas operatives. Since Hamas was acting as an elected body representing Gaza it was inevitable, as in all military operations in urban areas, that civilians would be killed. That is NOT genocide.

It is a mark of the lack of insight of many in our community, and perhaps some anti-semitism, that so few seem to understand these basic principles.

Kim Howard
Kim Howard
January 28, 2024 5:10 pm

38 more runs, I have never seen such a woke bunch of Cnuts until the Great Allen Border and Denis Lillie left the stage and promoted solar panels

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 5:12 pm

A lot of very hard yards.
As contrasted to PhD’s in Nana Tales or Climate Fakery.

3 6

Oh noes!!! Not allowed to give my darling his due Brownie Points here, am I?

He is known to some Cats IRL here and always makes them welcome.
Good enough for a mention, I would have thought.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 28, 2024 5:13 pm

‘Unmask you’: Premier Chris Minns’ threat as Nazis gather in Sydney

By steve zemek
Court reporter
and jessica wang
NCA NewsWire
3:19PM January 28, 2024

NSW Premier Chris Minns has warned he is prepared to unmask people involved in the latest neo-Nazi gatherings in Sydney after police halted two demonstrations in less than 24 hours.

After police stopped a group of men wearing black clothing and balaclavas associated with the National Socialist Network on a train at North Sydney Station on Australia Day, police again broke up meetings of the far-right group at North Turramurra on Saturday evening and Artarmon on Sunday morning.

Premier Chris Minns labelled the group as “pathetic” and their behaviour as “fascist” and “ridiculous”.

“Those who are attempting to menace people in an anonymous way in NSW, the police have the ability to unmask you,” he said.

Screaming “Gas the Jews” is all good, though, is it?

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:13 pm

And if you might think the last comment is OTT, then get this message up ya – purveyed to you by the evil rampant braindead collectivism now infesting our shores:

“Kill da Jooze, Gas da Jooze”

Pointless existences desperately in need of being brought to a long overdue end.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 28, 2024 5:14 pm

Sums up the Corrupt State of America Pefectly

Victor Davis Hanson
@VDHanson
83 million?

Donald Trump in furor stormed out of a New York courtroom for a while, in the defamation suit brought by author and dating/boyfriend/sex-advice columnist E. Jean Carroll.

It was just settled against Trump for $83.3 million!

The Carroll suit was largely subsidized by Reid Hoffman the billionaire capitalist, and mega-donor to the Democratic Party and leftwing causes.

The subtext of Trump’s rage, aside from the outrageous monetary size of the defamation ruling, is that he was facing—and angered—a leftwing claimant, a quite hostile leftwing judge, and a leftwing New York jury.

The civil suit serves as a mere preview of four additional leftwing criminal prosecutions, leftwing judges, and leftwing juries to come—all on charges that would never had been filed if Trump either had not run for president or been a liberal progressive.

Yet here we are.

The E. Jean Carroll case is the most baffling of all five. She, the alleged victim, did not remember even the year in which the purported sexual assault took place, nearly three decades ago. Observers have pointed out dozens of inconsistencies in her story.

It was never clear what were the preliminaries that supposedly (Trump denies meeting her) led both, allegedly, willingly to retreat together to a department store dressing room, where during normal business hours the alleged violence took place.

Moreover, the sexual assault complaint came forward decades post facto—and only after Trump was running for and then president.

Carroll eventually sued him for battery, but well after the statute of limitations had expired and thus the case seemed defunct.

Her claims of defamation injuries arise from being fired from her advice column job at ELLE magazine.

She claimed that Trump’s sharp denials and ad hominem retorts led to her career ruin. But the loss for anyone of a column at 76 does not seem such a rare occurrence, and the absence of a salaried job in one’s late seventies for four years does not seem to equate to a $83 million hit.

And note the allegation that her dispute with Trump led to her firing was strongly denied by the very magazine that cut her loose.

But then another strange thing happened. In 2022, a new law (“The Adult Survivors Act”) was passed in the New York legislature. It also post facto established a twelve-month window (beginning six months from the signing of bill) that permitted survivors of long ago alleged sexual assaults suddenly to sue the accused long-ago perpetrator—regardless of the previous statute of limitations.

That unexpected opening suddenly gave Carroll’s prior unsuccessful efforts a rebirth. And she quickly refiled with the help of arch-Trump hating billionaire Hoffman.

Yet the bill may have been introduced with Trump particularly in mind—given the legislator who introduced it, Brad Hoylman-Siga, was known as another Trump antagonist.

More interestingly, he had earlier introduced and had passed another Trump-targeted bill. That “TRUST” act had empowered particular federal Congressional committees to have access to the New York State once sealed tax returns of high-ranking government officials—such as Trump.

That bill’s generally agreed subtext was a green light for anti-Trump members of Congress to obtain legal access to Donald J. Trump’s tax returns.

So there is an eerie feeling that the New York legislature may have abruptly passed legislation that was aimed at the past conduct of Donald Trump but only after he entered the political arena.

While these are not quite bills of attainder, there is something unsettling if they are post facto laws aimed at targeting the most famous and controversial man in America and the leading candidate for the presidency.

In essence they were targeted statutes designed to make Trump’s prior legally unactionable behavior suddenly quite legally actionable.

Trump will be subject to such special treatment all summer and fall.

Prosecutors Bragg, James, Smith, and Willis will synchronize their court business for maximum effect.

Trump again will face leftwing prosecutors, judges, and juries on charges that are politically driven, involving alleged behavior that is either usually not criminalized or not to the same degree as Trump’s case. (Do we remember the nearly $375,000 federal fine belatedly leveled at an exempt Obama but only five years after his 2008 illegal garnering of, and not reporting, foreign campaign contributions?)

The stakes are higher each day as Trump closes in on the nomination and thus becomes the hope of half the country to end the Biden madness.

Somehow Trump will have to stay calm, give no opening to his legion of hostile prosecutors, while conducting a nonstop campaign against Biden (and for a while Hayley), and while fighting to keep his name on various state ballots.

So what we are witnessing is not even the extralegal efforts of Steele/Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie/DNC/Hillary Clinton in 2016, or the 2020 “Russian disinformation” ruse/change the voting laws/infuse half a billion dollars to absorb the work of the registrar machinations against Trump.

We are way beyond all that. The legal system itself, hand-in-glove with leftwing politicos (compare campaign boasts of James and Willis, or prosecutorial visits to the January 6 committee and the White House) is turning the process of balloting and elections into an embarrassing farce.

Still, Trump will have to soldier on. He must stay controlled amid the tsunamis, not play into the hands of his accusers, and remember that he may soon be the only eleventh-hour hope to stop this mockery of American law, customs and traditions.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 28, 2024 5:15 pm

Hairy has actually commented here a few times, but not recently.

He alerted me to this site around 2010, when it was more an economics site.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
January 28, 2024 5:16 pm

Driving along Wellington Rd Mulgrave (Melb) yesterday no Aussie flags to be seen. Yet attached way up high to a light pole in the median strip was a Hamastinian flag. My disgust was immediate. But how to remove? This thing was at least 6-7metres up and thick cable-tied to the pole. The installers were either part monkey or had access to a boom lift. If only they used their skills for good instead of evil. Flag will be there a while yet as our leftist council will dispatch a herd of turtles to remove.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:17 pm

NSW Premier minnimax has warned he is prepared to unmask people involved in the latest neo-nayzee gatherings in Sydneystan.

Good luck with that, you evil useless little catamite. Especially given that the “nayzees” you’re attempting to unmask, do not actually exist.

This is gaslighting, Cats, ridiculously writ large.

Vicki
Vicki
January 28, 2024 5:17 pm

Cats – this is how effed collectivism is. In the space of barely twenty years I’ve gone from being a chauvinistic supporter of the Oz cricket team to now fervently barracking against them.

Rabz – we are with you with that in our household! We were members of the SCG for decades and rarely missed test matches. But our Woke team, with their preoccupation with matters non-cricket – have lost us. I can accept that the short game was always about the marketplace & “big hits”. We were not ever interested as it lacked the complexity of the magic long game – which required patience, courage and very great skill in all its players. But even the long game has lost its special appeal once commercial interests predominated.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
January 28, 2024 5:20 pm

For a change of pace here is David Niven on the Dick Cavett show explaining how he got a German Iron Cross.

He would be on my list of any guest you could invite to dinner or a luncheon.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 28, 2024 5:21 pm

“Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 28, 2024 2:37 PM
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/01/palestinians-need-better-liars.html

Any military Cats need a giggle?”

Strangely, or perhaps not, there was a similar bit of propaganda in Iraq in the early noughties.

Not so strangely, ignorant western j’ismists were taken in each time. They hate guns (certainly in the hands of non-leftards), but are utterly ignorant of how they work.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 28, 2024 5:21 pm

For too long our Jewish communal organisations have tried to play footsy with people who hate us, who have always have hated us and who will always hate us…and that is the left and Islam.

Antisemitism on the left among western political groups isn’t new. Just had a look at my copy of a publication I purchased in mid 1992 – “That’s Funny You Don’t Look Anti-Semitic; An anti-racist analysis of left anti-semitism”, by Steve Cohen, pub. 1984.

Our Jewish leaders have stuck their noses too far up the interfaith thingumy. It’s no wonder AJA has been so welcomed.

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 5:23 pm

Premier Chris Minns labelled the group as “pathetic” and their behaviour as “fascist” and “ridiculous”.

Then why the overkill, Mr Minns?

How about going after the animals who drive to the ES, escorted by your police, to menace the Jews who live there?

Mendacious @rsehole.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 28, 2024 5:24 pm

“Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 28, 2024 2:37 PM
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/01/palestinians-need-better-liars.html

Any military Cats need a giggle?”

There was an identical bit of propaganda in Iraq in the early noughties. Western j’ismists are completely ignorant of the workings of firearms.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:26 pm

The contrast between the two teams could not be more stark (PTP) as well.

The West Indian players are young, fit and clearly enjoying their time in the middle.

The other team on the other hand …

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:29 pm

He alerted me to this site around 2010, when it was more an economics site

I started commenting on Sinc’s Cat in mid 2011, after just moving to Canberrastan and feeling very cold and alone.

It was a revelation. 🙂

calli
calli
January 28, 2024 5:32 pm

April 2012 for me, Rabz. Poor Sinc. And now Poor Dover.

Who needs to attend to this weird database error. At his leisure, of course.

First World problems.

Zafiro
Zafiro
January 28, 2024 5:34 pm

Caught by Kevin Sinclair, who is having an excellent debut Test.

Sinclair has impressed in the CPL T20 shite the last year or two. Great to see him playing test cricket.

Real cricketers play test cricket.

one old bruce
one old bruce
January 28, 2024 5:34 pm

That Paul Craig Roberts article is a perfect example of why Australians should study our own *British* history and stop trying to understand ourselves via an American lens, with resulting distortion to the point of falsification. His points have NOTHING to do with Australia’s British history. Zero.

Also I see elsewhere he talks about a ‘CIA Zionist’ conspiracy. Hello? If you consider yourself to be Australian, you are being led astray by this American BS.

Long time between comments, so hello everyone.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:35 pm

Real cricketers play test cricket.

Yep, anything else is just fairy floss.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 28, 2024 5:35 pm

For a change of pace here is David Niven on the Dick Cavett show explaining how he got a German Iron Cross.

If as I you don’t like videos here’s the story in written form.

David Niven: The British Movie Star Commando who Won the Iron Cross (Aug 2022)

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 28, 2024 5:42 pm

Israel responded appropriately under accepted international rules of war in a campaign to destroy Hamas operatives. Since Hamas was acting as an elected body representing Gaza it was inevitable, as in all military operations in urban areas, that civilians would be killed. That is NOT genocide.

The IDF has been a bit less careful this time about collateral deaths, buildings, etc – but not nearly comparable to USA or any other western state in battle.

Richard Kemp

Israel’s War on Hamas is the Least Deadly War in the Region

Tom
Tom
January 28, 2024 5:42 pm

“Those who are attempting to menace people in an anonymous way in NSW, the police have the ability to unmask you,” he said.

As Cassie says, Chris Minns is just the mild-mannered pretty face that gives the trade union party electability in NSW.

But what always follows is the wishlist of the ALP loony left, which no-one voted for.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the sudden appearance of cartoon Nazis as a distraction squirrel was a joint project of the ALP left and NSW police.

Cassie of Sydney
January 28, 2024 5:43 pm

This is gaslighting, Cats, ridiculously writ large.

Yep. Pure, unadulterated gaslighting.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:43 pm

Poor Sinc. And now Poor Dover

Yep – the number of times I must have tested the Perfesser’s patience would be legendary.

However, he did gift me at least six guest posts, on various matters, mostly economics related.

I’d love to write some more, Cats, but my creative juices have seemingly gone into hibernation.

To the many commenters who’ve been here for many years and the newcomers, it’s a wonderful virtual (and often in real life) community.

I’ve made lifelong friends (and no doubt, lifelong enemies) on the various Cat blogues.

This is a good thang.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 5:43 pm

calli
Jan 28, 2024 5:05 PM

Your original comment was out of the blue. Which is why I asked the question. You as usual get all stroppy.

I don’t need to work out your cryptic shite. No one does.

Rabz
January 28, 2024 5:47 pm

“Keep politics out of sport”

Yeah, that worked out well, didn’t it?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 28, 2024 5:48 pm

Rabz – The funniest event at the old Cat was when Sinc put your tag on the banned list. We were no longer allowed to write Rabz this, Rabz that…

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 28, 2024 5:49 pm

Madagaskar or whatever the spelling is now on Ch 93 which is GO.

Cassie of Sydney
January 28, 2024 5:51 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if the sudden appearance of cartoon Nazis as a distraction squirrel was a joint project of the ALP left and NSW police.

Without a doubt.

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