The voter turnout numbers from the AEC site are astonishing.
Nearly 30% of Australian voters boycotted the election.
The lowest turnouts are in the inner city seats consecutively, look at the comparisons to 2019:
Electorate, Turnout %, Enrolled, Marked Off, Turnout % Relative to 2019
Melbourne 61.4 114447 70270 -28.22
Sydney 61.83 125421 77550 -24.47
Brisbane 62.46 125241 78223 -28.05
Perth 62.63 122719 76856 -26.9
The highest turnout in all of Australia was just 86% in Page.
Just look at these numbers, a blood bath!
Electorate, Turnout %, 2022 vs 2019
Wright 63.72 -28.29
Melbourne 61.4 -28.22
Brisbane 62.46 -28.05
Chisholm 67.45 -27.36
Perth 62.63 -26.9
Cowan 64.07 -26.62
Higgins 67.09 -26.59
Bruce 65.6 -26.41
Bonner 66.67 -26.09
Wills 65.16 -26
Maranoa 65.99 -25.94
Swan 63.01 -25.84
Moreton 65.16 -25.76
Dickson 70.13 -25.31
Petrie 66.16 -25.14
Ryan 67.97 -25.01
Hotham 67.68 -24.71
Oxley 66.55 -24.65
McEwen 67.55 -24.61
Sydney 61.83 -24.47
Tangney 69.05 -24.45
Maribyrnong 69.26 -24.24
Kooyong 71.66 -24.17
Dunkley 68.24 -24.12
Gorton 66.99 -24.02
Mayo 71 -23.97
Lilley 68.45 -23.7
Longman 68.58 -23.58
Moncrieff 64.64 -23.56
Rankin 67.11 -23.56
Scullin 68.81 -23.42
Hasluck 65.89 -23.35
Casey 72.19 -23.33
Isaacs 70.23 -23.27
Fadden 66.51 -23.12
O’Connor 68.79 -23.03
Pearce 65.42 -22.99
Corio 71.04 -22.84
Blair 70.16 -22.78
Cooper 69.67 -22.67
Curtin 69.36 -22.64
Parramatta 66.98 -22.63
Spence 67.97 -22.57
Kingston 70.63 -22.54
Corangamite 73.3 -22.49
Jagajaga 72.79 -22.47
Fremantle 68.84 -22.39
Durack 63.04 -22.31
Adelaide 69.28 -22.24
Fraser 68.09 -22.01
Hindmarsh 70.86 -21.99
Makin 71.14 -21.98
Aston 72.33 -21.96
Boothby 71.7 -21.91
Griffith 69.24 -21.81
Gellibrand 69.1 -21.79
Groom 71.28 -21.77
Forde 67.77 -21.72
Burt 65.55 -21.44
Reid 70.46 -21.25
Brand 67.45 -21.01
Clark 72.74 -20.9
La Trobe 68.66 -20.56
Goldstein 73.16 -20.56
Bass 73.55 -20.49
Macnamara 69.66 -20.28
and on, and on, and on, not a single electorate isn’t impacted.
Somebody had better say something about this because this is historic, and if no explanation is offered people are going to start theorising about the election.
I cross referenced the turnout numbers against the voting numbers. They’re identical and those turnout numbers are up to date, seats like Moreton are 100% counted are reporting only 65% turnout.
So don’t let anyone say they “just need to update the figures” or something dumb. No.
My theory: unvaccinated and covid state power aggrieved people boycotted the election.
I know two people that did. I held my nose and voted for Chaos but ultimately put LNP before Labor at the bottom – but it disgusted me to do any of it, I fully understand them, I couldn’t have cared less about the entire thing in the lead up.
The establishment problem, if they address this and confirm that people stayed home en-masse….uh-oh!
1. Mandate? lol!
2. The number becomes a rough proxy for how many unvaccinated people there are….a lot more than 5%.
2a. But the lies Feb 2021 – Feb 2022! A rotten state and system from top to bottom, it must fall, surely!
3. Why has nobody said anything about this historic event straight away? Very sneaky are our overlords as they weave their sneaky narrative of a New Leftwing Australia without mentioning that 4+ million people boycotted the whole thing (absolutely allowing the green win in Brisbane and at least a couple of teal wins) – there was no magical surge, there was a boycott, a loss of votes from the system creating the illusion of an increase in others.
5. They have created millions of militant activists who now reject the entire system.
Astonishing numbers. But why wouldn’t angry people vote?
Covid deaths must account for the shortfall.
There seems to be three schools of thought:-
.1 It’s a yuuuge boycott;
.2 People voted but votes were destroyed or diverted;
.3 This is an interim anomaly during the count due to the AEC’s misuse of their own defined term “turnout”.
I vote for 3.
An illegitimate government led by an illegitimate imbecile (in more ways than one).
I’m with Sancho.
The Federal erection means shit. Its the stinking state Stazi governments that did and is doing all the damage.
I refuse to hold my nose and vote for fuckwits that are mere shades of the uniparty on the grounds that the other party is even worst.
I will not vote for anyone that cedes any of our rights to the UN or signs up to such a treaty without a plebiscite.
I will not vote for anyone that will violates our rights through unwarranted
“emergency” powers nor anyone that mandates medical genetic experiments on any part of the population.
I will not vote for anyone that supports policies of mass migration without clear popular mandate.
I will not vote for any party or candidate that has no policy to address the destructive below replacement birth rate.
I refuse to play the game.
Turnout by Division
Updated: Tue, 24 May 2022 7:09:12 PM AEST
Totals –
Eligible Electors = 17,228,900
Turnout = 8,922,662
% = 51.79
Many thanks Dover.
I have shared this widely.
The percentage of formal votes cast in my electorate in the lower house?
66.2%, i.e. less than two thirds of the eligible voters. Not including those of course, who’ve never bothered enrolling.
My vote would have been included in the informal tally, as I refused to number all the boxes and stopped after numbering two of the five candidates (PHON and UAP).
Our political system is beyond repair. It needs to be obliterated and reconstituted from the ground up.
BTW, I see Albansleazey’s seat has gone back to being a two candidate runoff between labore and the greenfilth – the latter receiving over 5,000 more primary votes than the gliberal candidate.
Smug, cult crazed hypocrites.
Don’t know but I sorely hope they did decide to stay home, mischief and disgust are valid responses. Considering the penultimate census that went tits up it could also just mean that the AEC has joined other government departments and hit developing world levels of competence.
P has linked to the senate votes.
AEC House Reps results here
You have to scroll down to divisional results.
P has linked to the senate votes.
Thanks Leon L
AEC turnout figures here – click headings for lowest to highest results:
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseTurnoutByDivision-27966-NAT.htm
AEC definition of “turnout” (same link):
“Turnout is the number of people who were enrolled to vote that ‘turned up’ to cast a vote via any voting method.”
Big story here if there are any journalists interested.
Thanks for posting, Dover and Stix.
I’ve never done a census, and that was my last election. Fuck em.
The average punter is as dumb as dog shit. I’m just gonna eat my popcorn and watch it all burn down.
House of representatives Turnout by division
Eligible Electors = 17,228,900
Turnout = 12,750,138
% = 74.00
Swing = -17.89
(I hope I got it right this time)
Doverbeach:
You are talking through your hat. The situation may well be they other way around. There were more votes lodged than people on the roll. Look at Moreton.
Enrolled: 107128
2PP to date:
Perrett. 69722
Huang. 27788
———-
97510
Informal. 2185
Declaration votes issued
But not yet returned. 12784
———
Total Votes issued. 112479
———
Excess votes issued
Compared to enrolled 5351
——-
So it looks like 5351 additional people turned up in Moreton who weren’t on the roll and were given a declaration vote. That’s 5% additional. That doesn’t make sense.
I am pretty sure stix has the turnout numbers right.
See Moreton Qld.
2019 results are here.
93341 total votes. Turnout 90.92%.
2022 Results here.
71807 total votes. Turnout 61.03%
“Two candidate preferred (TCP) for Moreton (QLD)
51 of 51 polling places returned and 100.00% of the ballot papers counted thus far have also had a TCP count undertaken.”
For seats like Ryan, Qld, turnout is 72% (80742).
The two party preferred is being recounted I think as showing in the box:
“Two candidate preferred (TCP) for Ryan (QLD)
11 of 45 polling places returned and 34.15% of the ballot papers counted thus far have also had a TCP count undertaken.”
This will not change the turnout number.
2019 Reps turnout by division here to compare with CL’s link above.
It rings true to me. I was nearly moved by the prescient warnings from Steve Kates, but I chose not to vote in this election. I know its a slightly stupid thing to do, but I could not bring myself to do it. Glad to know I am not the only one.
BTW, the AEC page with my electorate’s results states that 96.1% of all votes have been counted.
I’ve noted similar results for Grayndler and Watson on the old Cat for previous feral elections, but 66.2% is a spectacular new low.
Voting in the election is just pissing against a wall of the dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks masses.
No point.
I scrolled down to the bottom of the Moreton results and it looks like quite a few postal and declaration votes have not yet been counted and are not included in the ‘turnout ‘ total.
Postal Votes disappeared between the Red Box and the AEC?
It’s been known to happen in Union Elections years ago, the AEC supervises all Union Elections these days.
The Liberal Party usually do very well on Postal Votes, so making 20,000 envelopes disappear is gonna make a huge difference to the result.
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseTurnoutByDivision-27966-NAT.htm
C.L. that was the link I was going to post earlier when my screen froze and I had to close the computer down and lost all in info in the process.
Adding in the 12800 ballots in Moreton leaves turnout at 80% in 2022 v 91% in 2019.
Still a significant drop in turnout.
Are the gross figures for Postal Votes received available?
If not, then it’s a doddle for the AEC to disqualify Postals on any grounds, who would know?
That 12800 is the awaiting processing ballots.
I refused to return to Sydney just to vote in the by-election for Gladys’ seat. I have just been informed that I will be fined if I can’t come up with a good reason.
I have told them that the government’s Covid rules made it too difficult.
Years ago I went to the NSW Parliament House to hear an informal public discussion (ie not in parliament itself) of the scope for electoral fraud . Latham & Malcolm (what’s his name – used to be the guru on elections???) made a good case for the possibility & indeed likelihood, in our system. Lobg time ago & I can’t recall the details.
True Leon.
Postal votes don’t close til 3 June so possible that number might also increase, perhaps not by very much.
It’s those old jokes, it only encourages them. The other one is, whoever you vote for you still get a politician.
C.L. noted above that the AEC’s definition is “Turnout is the number of people who were enrolled to vote that ‘turned up’ to cast a vote via any voting method.”
I saw recently that some 30-odd% of the electors had voted either postal or absentee of other method.
Could it simply be that the AEC’s running count at the link in the article does not yet include all those ‘other method’ votes?
Neville, for Moreton the number of postals, etc. waiting to be processed are 12,784. That’s over 22K eligible voters that didn’t vote.
amortiser says:
May 24, 2022 at 8:16 pm
Doverbeach:
You are talking through your hat. The situation may well be they other way around. There were more votes lodged than people on the roll. Look at Moreton.
Enrolled: 107128
2PP to date:
Perrett. 69722
Huang. 27788
———-
97510
Informal. 2185
Declaration votes issued
But not yet returned. 12784
———
Total Votes issued. 112479
———
Excess votes issued
Compared to enrolled 5351
——-
Went off half cocked there. Sincerest apologies. Double counting is such a bitch.
The AEC definition of turnout is formal votes cast plus informal votes plus declaration and postal votes not yet returned.
Not all postals will be returned by the cut off date.
Some might take informals out of that equation but most people make a genuine attempt to cast a valid vote. A lot just don’t know how to do it. Blank ballot papers and ones telling a story or giving unsolicited advice are deliberately informal.
Looking at the NSW divisions the AEC turnout was 83.65%. The best was Page at 90.58% and the worst was McMahon at 76.33%.
Replying to a similar question to the OP:
Looks as though the final turnout is more like 80% rather than 70%.
Still, significantly lower than 2019. That would tie in with my thoughts. Opposition to lockdowns/vax is about 25%.
It’s also consistent with the booster rate for the jab.
Just a small note. Postal votes and out of area votes are still being counted so things will change until finalisation. That said there does seem to be a strike by voters. Less worry about the fine. In my electorate the informal vote halved, but the number of votes actually received overall declined by 9k. And that’s despite a 5k increase in registered electors. In nth Sydney it was worse. 15k voters went walkies and that’s after increasing registered by over 2 k.
These numbers are not final. But I don’t think the finals will change much. There has been a strike by voters. And guess who was on the receiving end?
Keep an eye out for the number of people fined for not voting.
Seriously what is the point of voting informal or not voting at all? Surely you could lodge a valid vote for one of the freedom loving minor parties. Thanks for nothing, idiots (and I use that word in its original sense). You have just empowered the psychos.
Interesting to see if the votes counted later on will change any seats, let alone who holds certain commissions!
If the turnout is 80% and the informal vote is 7%, the uniparty getting 78% of that all up is utterly pathetic considering how the media runs dead on any decent minor party.
They got a touch under 57% support with compulsory voting. For apparently three opposing ideologies?
43% of the population does not approve; even with coercion and welfare handed out like by a carpet bombing B52.
No government has a mandate at all other than to act as an administrator.
The objectively most pressing issues, as a sensible government to tackle are:
1. Pay down all of our public debt back to zero from 1.2 trillion AUD.
2. Continue the process of getting more powerful military equipment such as cruise missiles, better nuclear powered subs and punish cheating military contractors; procurement may be one legitimate area where corruption exists.
3. If we eventually choose economically destructive policies such as banning coal or petroleum, then we need to insulate ourselves with nuclear power and thorium & uranium mining
4. Property prices are so absurd they will eventually destroy labour supply in the cities. Tackling the lack of supply of new land development and concentration of government jobs in metros must occur. Current policies will only stimulate demand whilst supply will remain constrained.
5. Give everyone back their civil liberties. No one voted for the Public Health Acts or the e-Safety Commissioner.
Just an observation, the more regional seats in Qld generally had higher voter turnouts than the seats in Brisbane and South East QLD.
I really struggled to vote this time.
I have never been more pissed off with the offerings.
As an aside: I am in the Page electorate (Northern Rivers, NSW) and the National bloke (Hogan) retained with an increase even with a “Teal” in the mix.
Our next door neighbour electorate (Richmond – Tweed area) voted Green.
The turnout numbers will need to be revisited.
It is a work in progress.
It should be able to be calculated as the number of issued postal votes ought not to change.
It does requires a manual calculation for each division, adding back the postal votes not yet returned and the not counted postal/absentee votes to the totals.
The results vary widely.
In Bonner QLD, the current turnout is 66.67%.
There are 19581 postal votes not yet counted and 6787 postal votes not yet returned.
If all these are added in the turnout is 91%
I did the numbers for 27 electorates.
Average turnout 4% less than 2019.
All the outstanding postals will not be returned so this number will be a little higher.
Does our Constitution specify a quorum for valid elections? Maybe that should be put to a referendum. Imagine if we could express our disgust with parliament by too few turning up to vote.
I did, in the senate. It’s impossible to “lodge a valid vote for one for one of the freedom loving minor parties” in the lower house, as I patiently explained on this blog at least twice in the run up to the election. Read my explanation above of how I “voted” in the lower house on Saturday if you still don’t get it.
My electorate results, 2019 feral election:
Enrolment:107,774
Formal votes: 84,250
% of formal votes: 78.2%
I can guarantee that once the votes are all counted, the percentage of formal votes in my electorate in 2022 will be significantly lower than 2019.
Well said Rabz.
That’s exactly how I voted.
yup. You can’t exhaust preferences (unlike the senate ballot).
See pp6 of https://www.aec.gov.au/elections/candidates/files/ballot-paper-formality-guidelines.pdf
It’s the diversity …..
A popular sentiment at the moment.
I was marked off the electoral roll, but I defaced my ballots as no candidate was worthy. I wrote mandate freedom on the green paper. It’s trite and no one will read it or care, but it amused me and I think it unwise to submit a blank paper.
P.s. maybe the punters have worked out that voting doesn’t make a difference?
Let’s give it a week.
I was too frightened to go down to Melbourne now, as 51% voted for the Greenfilth, and thus may be considered dangerous. I now see that nearly 30% of the voters didn’t vote, so it may not be as bad as I thought. I note that the first link was to Senate voting, which was much higher non-votiers.
Those counts do not yet include postal votes, which are counted later. The scuttle but is that up to a third are doing postal or prepoll voting.
Indeed. This was discussed here late last week.
Moreton is reporting a 67.03% “turnout” as of now.
Looks like this was much ado about naffink.
Fat Cloive update.
The number of Court of Disputed Returns writs lodged by the notoriously rambunctious and litigious Mr Palmer currently sits at … zero.
On election night he threatened action “in at least one electorate” (an unnamed electorate) after saying he had “video of AEC officials taking votes home”.
Four days in and no video has surfaced. Fat Cloive says the video “is with his lawyers”.
FMD. Is it on Super8 Zapruder film?
If it was taken on a phone or any video camera produced this century it can be copied and distributed at the press of a button.
Maybe what we’ve got is a UAP flunkie stalking an AEC employee who was bringing the shopping home.
Who knows?
But it is time to back up the big mouth, Fat Bastard.
Bringing the shopping home at one o’clock in the morning after the Election?
After being at the Booth since 6 am on Saturday morning?
Palmer has got the goods, Agent Sancho.
He’ll horsetrade the evidence for a coupla seats in the Senate.
Not sure about that:
Moreton (QLD)
Eligible electors:107,128
Turnout:68.90% (73,807)
Informality:2.89%
Total absent, provisional, pre-poll, and postal issued are 35,772. They have received 25,794 envelopes as of 25 May. They have processed 10,960 and have 14,834 remaining to process. Another 9 days for the remaining 10Kish envelopes to find their way back potentially. That you can vote until 3 June, two weeks after the election is had and called is just absurd and a scandal. This would yield a max turnout of 98,619 (92.05%), with a minimum of 88,632 (82.73%). Turnout in 2019 was 90.92%. We’ll know some time next week.
Incorrect.
Here’s an example of Full Distribution of Preferences from the seat of Ryan at the 2019 Election.
Not sure what data this is. But last time I looked the postals were about 10% in most electorates. I gather pre-polling was heavy in many places as well.
Where did those figures come from.
There’s been only 73,807 votes counted in Moreton as of 4 hours ago.
Dover.
The main point is that the “turnout” number is dynamic, as illustrated by the fact that your figure is 1.9% higher than the figure I saw an hour before.
Sure, the ultimate turnout figure may end up below historical trend, but calling it a massive voter boycott based on incomplete numbers was bullshit.
And it was pointed out as such almost immediately.
Tagged for one week from now.
I would have thought anything below 90% is unusual for a regime of compulsory voting.
Unless the count is closed and a comparison made of results from previous elections this appears to be a big nothingburger.
I told my wife voting turnout was down by something like 20 to 25%, and she queries my data. Its the ABS I said. Yes, but does it include postal and remote voting, is it final? Yes of course i said, like a dill. Check your sources she said again. As usual she is right.
The count does already include postal, absentee, and other like votes. What it doesn’t include as of yet are all of them. I’ve already given a max of what the vote turnout in Moreton could be and a min above given the envelopes requested and returned so far.
I’m not sure why people are overly critical of people exploring matters in a post and getting responses which clarify the matter either way. It’s pathetic.
What it doesn’t include as of yet are all of them.
This does rather suggest that this whole post is a waste of energy?
No, we know the total envelopes sent out, and the number of these already processed, and what is awaiting processing, but the envelopes sent out have until 3 June to return and still be counted. As I say above re Moreton, if all of those envelopes return we will be around the turnout percentage for 2019, but if only half of the remaining return, we will be in the mid-80% which would be well below the 91% of 2019.
And to be brutal, the only posts that are a ‘waste of energy’ are those that don’t attract any eyeballs and/or comments.
Oh?
The author of the post was given three or four valid explanations on the open thread as to why his analysis was flawed.
He chose to not only reject those out of hand, but to abuse and denigrate those advancing explanations which have since proven to be correct.
So, if you are going to call for the niceties of the finer points of debating, you might start with him.
I do not dispute that.
In fact my gut feel is that the correctly calculated turnout in the final wash-up will probably be lower, which might be worthy of discussion.
What I take issue with is the headless chooks running around saying it was evidence of a voter boycott of around 25% or, alternatively, these were all votes stolen from Fat Cloive.
I didn’t say people can’t be critical, I said overly critical as in burn this post, complete dickhead, etc. The only thing that leads to is keeping one’s head below the parapet.
Sure, but as Twostix mentioned, no one was talking about this before he raised it and it was worth discussing even before we could be aware of how bad or not the turnout was.
Fair enough Dover.
I just think Thumbstix might have considered the explanations given instead of rejecting a person putting forward a solid rebuttal as “the dumbest person here”.
So if there was a bit of blowtorch applied, it was possibly just a well deserved return of serve.
I put the post together from twostix’s comments so don’t draw any conclusions against twostix re the above.
Oh dear.
Dover comes up against the sneering oxygen thieves who only get excited when defending the “never question the criminals” stance against the enquiring minds of people who believe in holding to account the people they pay to operate within the rules.
People sneer and mock you because you’re an redneck imbecile and who ought to be practicing engine braking instead of polluting blogs with nonsense.
If you are going to call somebody “the dumbest person here” it does help if you are right. Or perhaps be more moderate in your use of language. We are not serving word salads here.
That’s precisely what I am doing.
Who’s “we” HB Bear?
And JC….with your foul mouth lately, you have no right to judge who is a redneck.
If being a redneck is not being a greasy urban wog who uses the c word spelled out exactly …then I’m guilty of being that name used to describe me by bigotty little racists who then boo hoo about being called a wog in respose.
You’re a failure and a mental case.
Get yourself checked out by a quack who hasn’t been jabbed.
Deakin up to 86.42% turnout as at 8.37 pm on 27 May 2022. 655 votes the difference
Lyon has 4000 envelopes to process , turnout now at 85.26