I was pulled up by the police this morning for not wearing a mask. Walking down a lane at the back of the apartment building in which I live, I spotted a police car. The policemen looked directly at me. Unmasked, I looked back thinking I might be operating within the NSW law. I quite honestly don’t know. My aging brain can’t keep up with the changes. Is this a possible defence?
Of course, everyone outside was masked but then most were masked before the recent tightening of the rules. Anyway, nothing happened and I walked on to my local café and ordered a coffee. And there was the police car again. It had snuck up on me. This time I knew I was breaking the law – loitering unmasked immediately outside a café. He called over to me. “Put your mask on.”
“Sorry I forgot,” I said and put on my mask. We waved to each other and he drove off. Strictly speaking he could have fined me $500. That’s the fine set my local member Gladys Berejiklian whose role, I seem to recall, is to represent my interests. Ah well.
If we leave aside the useless and demeaning imposition of masks, the story is a good one. Old style community policing. He operated within the law. He was civil. And implicitly issued a warning rather than a fine. Is there hope in there for us?
Is there hope in there for us?
More a question of whether or not there is hope for them. If they don’t turn aside from their usual shit, as this officer has done, then things will get very bad for them.
They are massively outnumbered and outgunned. They need to remember that when they’re doing stupid things that coalesce a unified community hatred and contempt against themselves.
Just a little.
To date, QLD police have been quite community minded.
I believe this stems from directives issued by Commissioner Katarina Carroll, who comes from humble migrant beginnings and came up through the ranks. And hopefully also some common sense among the rank and file.
Intelligent police know that they can’t do their job effectively without community trust and support.
Are you in an LGA ‘of concern’? People do seem to take mask-wearing more seriously there. No-one around our area (Eastern suburbs) wears masks except to go into shops. Plenty hang around outside without masks on. Everyone’s excuse would be that they are ‘exercising’. That’s certainly the one I would offer. If they wanted to know why I had stopped I would say I was doing controlled breathing, ribcage exercises, and do a few dance steps to show how it is done. But we have never seen a police presence here, although they are there on the coastal walk down to Bondi.
Aren’t police supposed to give warnings first, and then only if refusal to comply is made are they expected to make a fine? However, they didn’t seem to give that privilege to the group of young mothers talking together down a Bronte a few weeks ago: they had to make a point that the East was being equally as hounded as the South West.
In spite of the very different Covid profile in both areas. Not much in the East, proliferating wildly in the South West.
You obeyed.
I would only see “hope” if you said you didn’t have a mask and he drove on.
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No. It’s not.
I don’t wear a mask except when I go into a shop.
I’ve done this from Potts Point to La Perouse.
All I’ve received from the Police is a stiff ignoring.
I’ve driven to different areas to conduct my normal activities and haven’t been stopped.
The cops are slackers. Defund them.
Agreed. Had a similar incident today, which I won’t go into in any great detail. Suffice to say the cop actually ignored me and I wasn’t wearing a face nappie and am in an “LGA of obsession”.
When you’re feeling uncontrollably nervous and furtive just going to the shops you can’t help but think this country is f*cked. Probably beyond repair.
Thanks, you hitlerist knobheads.
I go to 313 Spencer Street in Melbourne 3 times a week. I never wear a mask or QR in. All the VicPlod that I see don’t wear masks either.
Oh, for those that don’t know 313 is Plod HQ in Melbourne. Don’t tell on me.
Just through a court case, pleaded guilty, fined $2000, plus costs $160.
During the incident, disarmed and/or charmed my way past airport, customs, ticket desk, hosties, cops, plus any amount of citizens.
On the return, had four cops blocking me from airport entry, and another at mid leg airport to monster compliance.
Worth every penny, if only to tease the fascist filth into showing their true colours.
Was plod masked? Most I’ve seen out and about aren’t but then …
WE I’SN’T ALL IN THIS TOGETHER … are we?
Oh f#ck it, just reported your comment Arky while trying to thumb-up it.
Dover, you might save yourself a lot of trouble if you could work a dialogue box into the “report comment” device, where NuCats could be asked “Are you sure you want to dob on this, snitch? Huh? ” with a yes/no to check.
Don’t know if anyone posted this — but my thought was — she would say that wouldn’t she?
ooops wrong thread
Must say the Queensland cops on the border last weekend must have suddenly developed severe vision troubles, the sun directly in their eyes etc.
Which shows they are much smarter than the very average Premier.
I just heard that Tony Abbot has been photographed somewhere without a mask.
Some woman did this and has made an absolute dixjhead of herself.
Does she know about the hundreds of hours of community service this man has done?
GHU
Pat
Here’s how many police interactions go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAJUSSDljGk&t=225s
Yes, this is something I hugely resent. Feeling nervous about going about my daily life.
But, above all, I am developing a genuine and all consuming HATRED for the PTB for literally stealing our lives. They are calmly talking about, maybe, perhaps easing things on 19th October (NSW). That is 4 whole months of our lives they will have stolen and even then only throwing scraps and on condition of apartheid.
Our lives and our country are being deliberately smashed and many people still don’t even realise it.
Cops in Altona booted a mum and her two toddlers off an empty beach yesterday, reportedly kicking over their sand castle for good measure.
CBD anti-lockdown protest set for noon on Sept1 18.
After reading about “parallel structures” in totalitarian societies, I’ve decided to start engaging in as many acts of resistance as possible. That included going for a run this morning (I stopped running about a month ago) without a face nappie.
Other acts to be teed up soon include inviting people over to my place for a BBQ once Beryl G “gives us back” some precious li’l freedoms. I’ve thought about this and come to the conclusion that the imbeciles aren’t going to know that my friends are at my place anyway and even if they are so what? I’m just so over this utter fascist idiocy.
F*ck them.
Yep, at Fairy Bower/Shelly Beach, Manly.
A deliberate act of political “gotcha-ism” by the dobber, because eleventy five gazillion other people were in the same area maskless.
Well done to Tony for firing back.
So far the only cops QPlod we have dealt with, airport, hotel quarantine, checkpoint when Dil collected us from the station have been unfailingly polite and helpful. Big difference to the NSWPlod thugs we dealt with in Sydney on our way out.
I had a similar interaction… but I am white and middle class (ie: NADT).
Was walking along the footpath to the mass vax clinic to get jab #2 and two coppers walked past.
They asked ‘have you got a mask?’. I said, “yes, in my pocket”. They requested I put it on, and as I was only 20m from having to put it on to go in the clinic, I complied.
Now. Who knows what the NSW law actually is for ‘stay at home’ areas? It says you need to wear a mask in ‘outdoor areas’. That is not, as I understand it, all of the outdoors.
duncanm
Not required while exercising.
Walking can be claimed to be exercise.
A Melburnian, I don’t wear a mask at all.
The only times I have been challenged (despite being out and about on many occasions) were by a security guard at JB Hi-Fi, who let me in once I told him I was exempt.
Also, when entering the local library on two occasions I have been asked both times to put a mask on, but was allowed to proceed when I informed them of my exemption.
I have not been back since, and will not go back there again.
Trivia Question!
When was the last time “police” did this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72CZ9z15bH4
Dunc – if you live in an “LGA of obsession” in Sydneystan, “you must wear a face nappie when you are outside in a public place (such as on a street or at a park)”.
My point blank refusal to do this has already got me into a couple of quite ugly contretemps.
Although the stupid fascist morons have finally ditched the requirement to wear them when engaged in “strenuous exercise”.
Deadsh*ts – there are simply no words to describe how much I hate them or the long overdue punishments I want to visit on them.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
September 9, 2021 at 7:10 pm
<<Aren’t police supposed to give warnings first, and then only if refusal to comply is made are they expected to make a fine? >>
Alas Lizzie, no. NSW have no power of discretion. Their only allowable action is to issue a fine ($5,000).
They are prohibited from educating or warning.
If police issues a fine wrongly, there will be no action taken against the officers involved.
(i.e. if they issue fines in an “exuberant” manner)
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