“I think it’s shocking how people acquiesce to this sort of thing”

This is from Adam Creighton in today’s Oz: Hysteria of Covid to endure for years, says top Trump medical adviser.

Scott Atlas, who was a top health adviser to former president ­Donald Trump, has warned that “destructive and ineffective” Covid-19 restrictions could loom over economies for “years” because of an “unscientific obsession” with stopping cases.

Dr Atlas, a former medical doctor and now Senior Fellow in health care policy at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, said Australia had illustrated the folly of lockdowns and the “shocking power of governments to shut down everything – schools, businesses, personal movement and even the right to see your own family”.

“Australia had an explosion of cases with some of the most draconian policies imaginable,” he said, speaking to The Australian about his new book, A Plague Upon Our House, which is highly critical of the US Covid-19 response and two of Mr Trump’s other health advisers, Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx.

“As an American, and I think it applies to Australia, I think it’s shocking how people acquiesce to this sort of thing.”

There was also this letter to the editor that highlighted so many of the issues that matter to so many amongst us.

I cannot yet add my voice to the chorus rejoicing in Australia’s relatively high vaccination cover. Rates of 80 per cent and 90 per cent are milestones, not destinations. With one in five or one in 10 unvaccinated, the risk to those more vulnerable, many elderly, vaccinated but with waning immunity is unacceptable.

The same proportions of children attending daycare and pre- and primary school will come from homes with unvaccinated, highly mobile young parents and adolescent siblings. Until they can become eligible for vaccination, children under 12 deserve to be fully cocooned by immunised adults.

As a clinical immunologist, I know that people who can’t be vaccinated on medical grounds are vanishingly rare. We now have hard data to support this: 19 million Australians have received at least one dose and only 556, or 0.003 per cent, have met the criteria for permanent medical exemption.

 

The main focus now should be on helping across the line those who have been convinced that the vaccines aren’t safe for them. This is for their benefit as well as the community’s. In my experience, almost all are reasonable people, unreasonably influenced by others with loud voices and self-appointed expertise.

It saddens me to still hear of women considering pregnancy or who are pregnant avoiding vaccination based on internet opinion when there is irrefutable evidence of a higher risk from Covid in pregnancy – of maternal death, miscarriage, premature birth and stillbirth.

Please, more focus on how far we still have to go and less on how far we’ve come. I’ll start rejoicing when we reach 99 per cent; that is a destination of which to be proud.

Professor Graeme Stewart, Westmead Institute for Medical Research, NSW

31 thoughts on ““I think it’s shocking how people acquiesce to this sort of thing””

  1. I wonder if Mr Atlas is related to Charles?
    And before we indulge in another round of fantasy medical footy, let’s check the scores to date. Deaths Australia: 2006. Deaths USA: 777,000.
    Economic data – masked as it is by public spending – suggests no significant difference in the two.
    In short, evidence suggests Trump medical strategy killed a lot of people for no obvious benefit.
    The gaggle of hippies, religious grandstanders, gun nuts and wankers who make up a large proportion of the antimedical “protest” includes quite a lot of hypocrites who have happily taken the jab.


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  2. And if things really do go tits up with some/many of the vaccinated, are these ‘professors’ going to publicly admit that they were very wrong and commit (metaphorical) Seppuku?

    In the same vein that if it saves just one life it’s worth it, what about if it ends just one life? The latter likely to be the young, not the very old.


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  3. Professor should be thanked by all and sundry for proving what an absolute fuckwit he is. An academic who supports “The Science” but absolutely ignores anything that contradicts his narrative.
    What a total fucking wanker.


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  4. “Australia had an explosion of cases with some of the most draconian policies imaginable…”:

    Yes, well…we all know how that happened.

    If only we knew who was responsible.


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  5. The fact that this Graeme fellow, is employed in his’ “research” position within the Public health service is testament to the utterly disfunctional and widespread cronyism/ corruption that has plagued NSW as well as the rest of the Australian public service. Who is this dickhead(?) and although the newspaper does, why does he seem to think his’ opinion is even relevant?

    A review of “his” publications indicate in the last 21 years, he is only listed as primary author on three papers, the most recent of which was over a decade ago in 2009. Other than that he is generally indicated as the last, or near last author on all other papers listed. Which indicates as much intellectual input, or less than a lab assistant or technical officer. The three papers listed suggest this fellow is a glorified administrator who even in that role sits in an office and relies on the investigations, studies and reports of others to make it appear he actually does anything of novelty, value or worth.

    He apparently argues in his only “sciency” publication as primary author ( er letter -2009) that the link between vitamin D and immune function is tenuous and unsupported by evidence. That it is a “hypothesis”.

    “…immunologic effects of relative vitamin D deficiency, whilst enjoying some biological plausibility, remains an interesting hypothesis that still has many pieces missing from the puzzle and awaits definitive data.”

    Charlatans like Graeme will be the first to go when NSW Health goes into the predictably unoriginal, inevitable damage control and attempts to mitigate/ deflect blame for their systemic malfeasance/misfeasance when their already failing, mysticism and ritual based, yes man narrative collapses.


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  6. I worked with Graeme a few too many years ago.
    I also assume he still reads basically the same medical journals I do.
    He used to be sensible and practical.
    How disappointing.


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  7. Charlatans like Graeme will be the first to go when NSW Health goes into the predictably unoriginal, inevitable damage control and attempts to mitigate/ deflect blame for their systemic malfeasance/misfeasance when their already failing, mysticism and ritual based, yes man narrative collapses.

    Don’t think so… unless he uses the wrong pronoun on one of his registrars..


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  8. In short, evidence suggests Trump medical strategy killed a lot of people for no obvious benefit.

    The number of people in the U.S. who have died of Covid under Biden is more than those who died while Trump was president.
    That is despite the fact that Biden has been president for less time than Trump since Covid broke out, and Biden had the benefit of vaccines from day one whereas Trump didn’t.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-people-will-have-died-from-covid-under-biden-than-trump/ar-AAPnEM6


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  9. Professor Graeme Stewart, Westmead Institute for Medical Research, NSW

    I am mystified how an apparently senior immunologist such as Prof. Stewart can ignore the contrary opinion of renown immunologists, virologists etc from around the globe.

    As egs – Dr. John Ioannidis, Prof of Medicine & Epidemiology, Stanford & one of world’s foremost authorities, Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche, vaccine expert (formerly advising Gates Foundation); Prof. Hocketz, Prof Toxicology,specialist immunologist Germany, Dr Wolggang Wodarq, Epidemiologist Head of Public Health Germany; Prof Perrone, former Chair Public Health & VP European Advisory group to WHO etc etc etc…..not to speak of our own Emeritus Prof of Pathology, Prof. Bob Clancy &….

    These are just a few of a list of nearly 40 specialists who have put themselves on public record as opposing the global vaccination process. And I haven’t listed the frontline critical care physicians who have treated thousands of COVID patients and are adamant that early treatment can defeat this virus.


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  10. If a female or male does not understand that male sperm entering a female uterus may cause the creation of a human being then humanity has failed.


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  11. I worked with Graeme a few too many years ago.
    I also assume he still reads basically the same medical journals I do.
    He used to be sensible and practical.

    This is what truly mystifies me, Gilas.

    I can only think that the professional network of obligations, plus a touch of this contagious mass psychosis explains the transition.


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  12. So…Professor Stewart’s grand idea is finally to address the wary unvaxxed and tell them:

    “Look, I know there has been a lot of rumour and misinformation about the vaccines. I want to assure you that they are perfectly safe. We have lots and lots and lots of science. And if you don’t get the vaccine you might lose your job.”

    Hey, 97% of people (the ones who did not have adverse reactions up to and including death) can’t all be wrong!


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  13. Vicki says:
    December 2, 2021 at 2:44 pm

    I can only think that the professional network of obligations, plus a touch of this contagious mass psychosis explains the transition.

    I agree.
    It seems that confirmation bias is highly potent and infectious within one’s peer group.
    A much stronger psychological force than any of us ever envisaged. ?the basis of fundamental human group dynamics?
    It would explain the prevalence of violence within leftard groups and the ease of their disconnection between belief and empirical reality.


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  14. It saddens me to still hear of women considering pregnancy or who are pregnant avoiding vaccination based on internet opinion when there is irrefutable evidence of a higher risk from Covid in pregnancy – of maternal death, miscarriage, premature birth and stillbirth.

    Didn’t get the memo about 80% miscarriage rate if jabbed in the first 20 weeks then?


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  15. I view these so-called experts as new-age witch doctors. They are only interested in their positions of power and status within the tribe and nothing else matters, just like witch doctors of old.


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  16. The original goalposts were 70 and 80% and they’ve been moved up a few times now.

    So I guarantee that if they get to 99%, this schmuck will not rejoice, let alone shut up and go away; he’ll say, “What, only 99%? And why have only 20% [or whatever] had their booster shots?”


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  17. bemused says:
    December 2, 2021 at 3:56 pm

    I view these so-called experts as new-age witch doctors. They are only interested in their positions of power and status within the tribe and nothing else matters, just like witch doctors of old.

    This group operates more as a collective of high priests rather than a coven of witch doctors.

    They probably aren’t aware of the evil they are promoting, they are wholly consumed with the sense of their own importance, we usually call that Pride.

    Pride seems to be served with a large slice of Stupidity.


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  18. In short, evidence suggests Trump medical strategy killed a lot of people for no obvious benefit.

    Trump killed way more people rushing these vaccines through than he did before they came along. For that he should be hung for crimes against humanity along with all the other sick bastards in charge.
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  19. Why is it that these supposedly intelligent people refuse to deal with simple logic?

    If the vax actually works then the unvaxed are the only ones at risk. Therefore all this hoo haa about protecting the vaxxed from the unvaxxed is hypocritical scare mongering with highly questionable motive.

    The vax isn’t a magic aura that annihilates virus germs in your vicinity like a bug zapper. Even if it works it is only protecting the vaxxed from the ill effects of the virus. It doesn’t prevent them from carrying and transmitting it. Thus the vaxxed are as likely to transmit the virus as the unvaxxed.

    Somehow simple logic has become heresy.


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