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Massacre of the Innocents, Jacopo Tintoretto, 1582-8


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Old bloke
Old bloke
December 7, 2021 5:22 pm

twostix says:
December 7, 2021 at 4:15 pm

There’s also another untold story of the capital, until ~2009 it was a heavily working class town.

I spent ten years there in the 70’s. The builders and associated people in the construction industry outnumbered the public serpents in those days.

Barry
Barry
December 7, 2021 5:25 pm

JC says:
December 7, 2021 at 4:55 pm

Isn’t a nuclear tipped ICBM raining down on a target super fast too. If so what is the big deal about a hypersonic based weapon delivery system?

RMIT (and UQ for that matter) run a very active hypersonic mechanical engineering research program.
90% chink students.

We have handed over to our adversaries the weapons that will enslave us.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 5:27 pm

Rex

Call me sceptical, but I never believed interceptor missiles meant to target incoming ones weren’t that hugely effective. Sure, it wouldn’t be zero, but they also wouldn’t be able to provide a 100% defensive shield… more like 20% is my estimate.

China can have as many of these hypersonic missiles as they want, but at the end of the day, if they attack the US with nuclear weapons the Three Gorges dam is gonsky and 300 million of fuckers are deasky.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 5:30 pm

Beware the Military-Industrial Complex.

(Also, a great way to screw with a dude waving Wunderwaffen in your face is to use your suprerior conventional forces to deny him places to launch them from. As the Allies did for the V1 by overrunning its launch sites around Calais and shooting down its launching aircraft, attempting to shoot up or blow up every V2 Transporter-Erector-Launcher they encountered and setting 617 Squadron RAF loose on the V3 ‘hill’ at Mimoyecques…

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 5:30 pm

RMIT (and UQ for that matter) run a very active hypersonic mechanical engineering research program.
90% chink students.

We have handed over to our adversaries the weapons that will enslave us.

How so, if we’re teaching about this? If we’re teaching “hypersonic mechanical engineering” we don’t have the weapons systems, but the US most likely does and if it doesn’t it would surely have a counter or perhaps none is needed.

bespoke
bespoke
December 7, 2021 5:30 pm

Australia is lost.

Only if you give up and/or desperately need to be proven right you’ll nudge people into doing the same.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 7, 2021 5:31 pm

Hyperbolic hyperbowl is out of control. Amused to see these two headlines at Sky News just now.

Heavy rain targets more than 10 million Australians

Gaia must be really really unhappy if she/it is targeting ten million Aussies.

Greens leader slams Labor’s environmental agenda a ‘recipe for climate collapse’ after ALP spokesman rules out changing emissions targets

Albo is causing climate collapse! This sounds serious. We should panic. Also I suggest Sky’s sub-eds in charge of headline writing should chill a bit.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 7, 2021 5:31 pm

Isn’t a nuclear tipped ICBM raining down on a target super fast too. If so what is the big deal about a hypersonic based weapon delivery system

It’s the inability to see where it is going to impact, if it is a single or multiple warhead vehicle and importantly the inability to track an inbound weapon until the last minute. This denies the target time to plan a defensive strategy and the unknown of if this is a strike on command and control, logistics and support, more so it removes the certainty of impending attack on air, sea and ground assets that can respond in quick time.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 5:36 pm

Call me sceptical, but I never believed interceptor missiles meant to target incoming ones weren’t that hugely effective. Sure, it wouldn’t be zero, but they also wouldn’t be able to provide a 100% defensive shield… more like 20% is my estimate.

Iron Dome begs to differ, but that is based on constant development and ‘dumb’ projectiles being lobbed in showers. A number do still get through, but certainly better than 1 in 5.

The remainder of your statement is quite correct. A tactical nuclear warhead to try and compensate for a lack of close accuracy against a moving aircraft carrier (The 50’s called- They want their scattergun approach to destructive precisi9n by sheer brute force back. They had an excuse, Mr Xi. Your minions don’t) or a ‘Fuck You’ bombing of, say, Guam or Diego Garcia would result in 50 or more W61-tipped Tomahawks coming back at them. A ‘Proportional response,’ you see… 😉

Heaven forbid we ever see the day the US ever feels a need to light the fuses under its Minuteman IIIs

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 5:36 pm

It’s the inability to see where it is going to impact, if it is a single or multiple warhead vehicle and importantly the inability to track an inbound weapon until the last minute. This denies the target time to plan a defensive strategy and the unknown of if this is a strike on command and control, logistics and support, more so it removes the certainty of impending attack on air, sea and ground assets that can respond in quick time.

Rex.

How much time do you have with existing American weapons? Seeing something coming at you on radar in the next 10 mins or so is not going to help you much defensively.

I get the feeling the US military industrial complex is pushing this.

Barry
Barry
December 7, 2021 5:38 pm

JC says:
December 7, 2021 at 5:30 pm

RMIT (and UQ for that matter) run a very active hypersonic mechanical engineering research program.
90% chink students.

We have handed over to our adversaries the weapons that will enslave us.

How so, if we’re teaching about this? If we’re teaching “hypersonic mechanical engineering” we don’t have the weapons systems, but the US most likely does and if it doesn’t it would surely have a counter or perhaps none is needed.

What is being done at both institutions is leading edge, not just teaching. For example, elimination of heat is a key problem for hypersonics, due to the massive friction between the atmosphere and the skin of the projectile. RMIT has longstanding expertise in composite materials that are advantageous in this area. So now China does too.
This is how the chinks made such leaps and bounds over the past 20 years, supposedly unexpectedly.
We have the skills, but not the will.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 7, 2021 5:38 pm

Speaking of Drachinifel he talks about 10 things to know about Pearl Harbour here https://youtu.be/umHbkowWi1s

He also has a 3 part series on the salvage efforts at Pearl Harbour

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 5:39 pm

Iron Dome begs to differ,

Rex, I read the actual success of that defensive shield over Israel was more propaganda than realized achievement.

Zipster
Zipster
December 7, 2021 5:40 pm

JC says:
December 7, 2021 at 5:30 pm

RMIT (and UQ for that matter) run a very active hypersonic mechanical engineering research program.
90% chink students.

We have handed over to our adversaries the weapons that will enslave us.

FACT CHECK: TRUE

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 5:41 pm

Barry

Forget “us” when it’s about China. Does the United States?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 7, 2021 5:41 pm

China can have as many of these hypersonic missiles as they want, but at the end of the day, if they attack the US with nuclear weapons the Three Gorges dam is gonsky and 300 million of fuckers are deasky.

I think the CCP would have already wargamed that scenario, again it would come down to the CCP initial strike and what vassets it targeted.

On the west coast they could target maritime and air assets with water supply as a locus. East coast could be C&C at the goverment level with the midwest as a secondary delivery point. Pearl and Guam you could take out for the morale and logistics component, morale mostly.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 5:43 pm

Rex

What can the Chinese do with these weapon systems? What’s the knockout advantage? Honest question.. as opposed to a dishonest one. 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 7, 2021 5:43 pm

JC

If China attacks the US with nuclear weapons, the Three Gorges will be collateral damage after the devastation of Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Wuhan, Lanxhou, and a variety of other cities and military centres.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
December 7, 2021 5:44 pm

Hospital rang me regarding an appointment on the 17th. If not double jabbed have to have been tested within the last 72 hours.
Told them I was in more danger from the double jabbed and the stuff they were talking about was not a vaccine. Just for fun.
I’ll ring them tomorrow week and see what the go is.
Don’t have qr coding on my phone. Don’t know, don’t care.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 5:45 pm

The choggies are gambling the US won’t go the nuclear way in conflict.

calli
calli
December 7, 2021 5:45 pm

Hyperbolic hyperbowl is out of control.

My word it is.

I intend to remain optimistic.

Zipster
Zipster
December 7, 2021 5:46 pm

Heavy rain targets more than 10 million Australians

Gaia must be really really unhappy if she/it is targeting ten million Aussies.

quick another virgin bugmen into the volcano

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 5:47 pm

Sorry- I goofed.

No Tomahawk mounts a nuclear warhead any longer.

The US Air Force’s AGM-86 Air Launched Cruise Missile does. A B-52 carries 6 of them. All packing W80 ‘Dial-a-Yield’ warheads that can deliver 5 or 150kt of precision-guided atomic Whoop-Ass.

Still not a nice thing to have coming at you en masse…

Winston Smith
December 7, 2021 5:52 pm

Top Ender:

Reminds me of the bloke I know who argued that property crime is “the redistribution of wealth”. He kept it up for years until his Audi was stolen and his house broken into, and not only ransacked but also trashed. Then he went very quiet.

Ha ha!
It looks like you’ve gotten away with it!

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 5:53 pm

What can the Chinese do with these weapon systems? What’s the knockout advantage? Honest question.. as opposed to a dishonest one. ?

They are an attempt to bluff out the US Navy’s carriers. Either by discouraging their prowling within easy Hornet range of Chinese atolls, Taiwan or the mainland, or getting the huge propaganda victory of at least damaging or even sinking one.

The Chunks are scared of the US Navy and those of its allies. Their centre of gravity is sea trade. Which is why they are doing the whole Co-Prosperity Sphere 2.0 thing with extra artificial islands for Sukhois and trailer-launched cruise missiles, and trying to hedge their bets with overland Belt And Road projects.

All the neighbours have to do is stand off outside easy Mig and Tupolev range and sink anything that tries to run the gauntlet into China, and the place starves and Revolutions its way into a new chapter of warlordism and popular misery.

That’s why they also have the DF-21 ballistic missile. It’s only useful as a would-be carrier killer.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 5:54 pm

And they are frantically trying to build.up a carrier fleet of their own.

Protect their own trade, savage others’ and make life for uppity neighbours uncomfortable with an on-call air force.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 5:55 pm

Serious question, would it actually make any difference if the choggies took out the west coast of the US? It may help the lefties in the rest of country focus upon the utter evil of the CCP, but then again probably not.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 5:55 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
December 7, 2021 at 5:31 pm
Hyperbolic hyperbowl is out of control. Amused to see these two headlines at Sky News just now.

Heavy rain targets more than 10 million Australians

We need Chubby Rain.

Surely one noosecorpse kiddo is a shitlord?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 6:00 pm

How much time do you have with existing American weapons? Seeing something coming at you on radar in the next 10 mins or so is not going to help you much defensively.

10 minutes is more than enough time for a fire control system to be able to detect, figure countermeasures and launch or fire them with a reasonable chance of success.

Assuming the speed and course does not vary massively.

The faster you have something coming at you, the harder it is to calculate where and when and with what to reply.

You add further complexity by increasing the volume of attacking weapons. As you’ve identified, the idea is to get something thru the defensive curtains, and hopefully be big enough to desttoy or cripple the target.

Hypersonics make the calculations harder.

Think of it as a battle of algorithms

Frank
Frank
December 7, 2021 6:02 pm

I swear all day water has tasted sweet.

Artichokes do that, it is weird when you notice it.

twostix
twostix
December 7, 2021 6:04 pm

Hospital rang me regarding an appointment on the 17th. If not double jabbed have to have been tested within the last 72 hours.

QLD?

Runnybum
Runnybum
December 7, 2021 6:05 pm

I think you keyboard generals are forgetting the MAD doctrine.

Razey
Razey
December 7, 2021 6:06 pm

One thing this covid SCAM has exposed is how corrupt the ruling class are in the West.

2022 is looking like a shit show.

Damienski
Damienski
December 7, 2021 6:07 pm

Dr Helen Adam from Western Australia’s Edith Cowan University says many family favourites should be pulled off the shelves and replaced by more inclusive books.

Out of her depth in a car-park puddle, that one.

twostix
twostix
December 7, 2021 6:10 pm

Pauline Hanson has been stumping around QLD giving speeches. Sort of an old timey soap-box democracy type feel to them, good energy coming out of it all.

The next election is going to be a ripper.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 6:12 pm

Rex

I can’t see how the Chinese could win a conventional naval war with the US. All the Americans have to do is have their subs sit at the bottom of the sea until either Chinese naval vessels came along or their oil supplies attempt to get through. Their ability to maneuver is hugely limited. Their sea access is very narrow and made for sub warfare. I think, no?

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The US would destroy them.

What do you think?

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 6:22 pm

Their sea access is very narrow and made for sub warfare. I think, no?

That’s why we’re getting nuclear propelled subs.

When they venture out into the SCS they’ll be second guessing themselves as to whether there’s an Australian sub lurking somewhere nearby working in tandem with the US & UK navies.

Well…eventually. When we get them. If a perfidious Labor government doesn’t scrap the plan before then.

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 7, 2021 6:27 pm

Avi – interviews egg-boy who threw an egg at Craig Kelly at the Melbourne Rally.

YOKES ON THEM: Antifa attack egged on by mum backfires

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 7, 2021 6:27 pm

Dr Helen Adam from Western Australia’s Edith Cowan University says many family favourites should be pulled off the shelves and replaced by more inclusive books.

Hope she gets a Coles’ Funny Picture Book for Christmas.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 6:35 pm

Yea Roger.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 7, 2021 6:35 pm

Runnybum

MAD lives, see my comment above. And a disarming first strike is an unattainable dream.

Mater
December 7, 2021 6:37 pm

Dr Helen Adam from Western Australia’s Edith Cowan University says many family favourites should be pulled off the shelves and replaced by more inclusive books.

What is it with the Left, and ‘removing’ things they don’t like?
Why can’t they simply provides alternatives, and leave it up to people to decide for themselves.

‘Tis ok, you don’t need to answer. It was rhetorical.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 6:38 pm

I can’t see how the Chinese could win a conventional naval war with the US. All the Americans have to do is have their subs sit at the bottom of the sea until either Chinese naval vessels came along or their oil supplies attempt to get through. Their ability to maneuver is hugely limited. Their sea access is very narrow and made for sub warfare. I think, no?

They can’t. Hence the island chains. The idea being that each is a whole, separate ring of fortifications that need to be cracked, reduced and then occupied.

That in turn pose terrible risks for all non-Chinese shipping. So the allied effort is diluted, degraded and nullified keeping neutral.shipping safe, while Marines’ and Soldiers’ lives are wasted on strategic nothings and the bulk of the PLA is left unharmed.

And China can negotiate a favourable peace when the allies have had enough.

It assumes the PLA-N and AF don’t get bum-rushed in the Taiwan Strait by USN task forces and USAF strengths and missiles built up in Japan and other nearby Pacific islands and friendly nations, and/or all the ASEAN and AUKUS powers and India agree to bottle up the bottom of the South China Sea and convoy all non-Chinese merchant shipping around areas of risk.

Too many assumptions of success on the Chicoms’ part and present, and relying on broken reed Western and SE Asian governments that might suddenly develop a backbone (either through outbreaks of patriotism or at some concerned actors’ gunpoint) and not do what is effectively demanded of them by Chicom propaganda.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 6:38 pm

No, we’re not forgetting it, Ted. Remain silent until someone asks for your opinion.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 6:39 pm

You know, Adolf-style brinksmanship and strategic gambling.

Th dice need only go bad once, and you’re snookered…

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 7, 2021 6:41 pm

Posted on the other Cat…

Old bloke says:
December 7, 2021 at 6:20 pm

egg_ says:
December 7, 2021 at 2:14 pm

Inside Australia’s Covid internment camp
UnHerd

**************************************

There’s another two under construction in WA, one to the north, the other to the south of Perth.

The Feds have plenty of money to throw at these internment camps, we must be having terrific surpluses these days.

Bullsbrook: https://www.smh.com.au/national/work-starts-on-perth-quarantine-facility-as-bullsbrook-promised-water-solution-20211007-p58y51.html

Mandurah: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05-09/mining-camp-designers-plan-covid-19-quarantine-hub-in-wa/100119364

MH wanted to know if they are bringing the train lines into the camps, a bit of overtime work for you Rex?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 6:41 pm

What’s that, Shit Dribbler?

More-Or-Less
Assured
Dickheadishness?

It’s all but inevitable when you log in.

Have you figured out who truly runs the Federal Reserve, yet? Hint- It ain’t the people the tinfoil hat has been telling you…

calli
calli
December 7, 2021 6:43 pm

Hope she gets a Coles’ Funny Picture Book for Christmas.

Whoa! A fleeting glance would give her conniptions. And that’s just “Girl Land”. 😀

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 6:45 pm

twostixsays:
December 7, 2021 at 6:10 pm
Pauline Hanson has been stumping around QLD giving speeches. Sort of an old timey soap-box democracy type feel to them, good energy coming out of it all.

The next election is going to be a ripper.

Have you seen the informal votes in some NSW local councils from last weekend? 15%! No idea about turnout.

There could be 30-40% taken up by protest votes or genuine alternative parties.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 7, 2021 6:46 pm

Dr Helen Adam from Western Australia’s Edith Cowan University says many family favourites should be pulled off the shelves and replaced by more inclusive books.

What is it with the Left, and ‘removing’ things they don’t like?

It’s very inclusive.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 6:47 pm

Is it true QLD todavery recently banned purebloods from organ transplants?

If so, I would be taking myself off the donor list.

I could not morally support my own enslavement as cattle by vampiric parasites.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 6:47 pm

today/very

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 6:49 pm

MH wanted to know if they are bringing the train lines into the camps, a bit of overtime work for you Rex?

I don’t work for the PTA, so I have absolutely nothing to do with transporting thousands of people to a hostile, gloomy confinement, where they become nothing more than a number. And on a daily basis have their spirits crushed and suffer humiliation and loss of self-identity until they die…

#Todesspielezeugeisenbahn

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 6:51 pm

Is it true QLD todavery recently banned purebloods from organ transplants?

Think of it not so much as a ban but as encouragement for you to do the right thing.

Go on now…otherwise drop dead.

cohenite
December 7, 2021 6:54 pm

If smollett gets off I reckon that will rank with OJ getting off for slitting his wife and her new boyfriend’s throats.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 6:55 pm

@ Old Bloke-

You can quote me if you like, but you have to include the hyperlink or the joke falls a bit flat…

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
December 7, 2021 6:55 pm

Two great headlines at Babylon Bee:

Bob Dole Switches to Democrat Party

‘1984’ Prequel Released Where People Beg Big Brother To Take Away Their Rights To Protect Them From Virus

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 7, 2021 7:00 pm

“Coles patent whipping machine for naughty boys”.

I need my safe space…

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 7:00 pm

You know, Adolf-style brinksmanship and strategic gambling.

Th dice need only go bad once, and you’re snookered…

Just as planned.

Frank
Frank
December 7, 2021 7:00 pm

Wonder if the decor and amenities at a quarantine camps compare favourably to those at the immigration detention centres.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 7, 2021 7:00 pm

Have you seen the informal votes in some NSW local councils from last weekend? 15%!

Dunno about my local botth but I bought an Artline texta specially for the occasion. Best $4 that I’ve paid for a while.

The problem I found is that the texta shows through to the other side, so I had to creatively fold the ballots, and hide them in hand, so as not to raise the eyebrows of the box nazi telling me “orange ballot in this one and blue ballot in this one”. I was polite.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:01 pm

Phew! Got the CNC lathe back up and running. Was indeed the PNP sensor on the turret lock that had failed.

Reynolds Automation in Coburg seem to be the only people that carry any stock of components these days. They had exactly what I needed.

calli
calli
December 7, 2021 7:02 pm

It’s hilarious, Mole.

Perhaps children in 1918 were tougher than adults today. Can’t imagine why.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 7:03 pm

cohenite

Why couldn’t the LAPD nail him then?

If he was as guilty as Roger Rogerson on bank cameras, fry the son of a bitch.

If not, he gets a walk.

Hey, the system works, Mr Simpson.

Utter shits like Seth MacFarlane undermine the rule of law.

But, I remind you. Look at the Weinstein case. The NYPD told accusers to delete evidence!

Bill Cosby was tried twice for the same crimes. Rightly he is a free man.

Why was he railroaded?

Google/DDG “The Pound Cake Speech”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 7:04 pm

Hanson grandstanding again.
Someone’s only got to call her an antivaxxer and she’llbackflip and glorify all vaccines.
Latham’s the same.

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 7:07 pm

“…so as not to raise the eyebrows of the box nazi telling me “orange ballot in this one and blue ballot in this one”.

(Not directed at you Bruce)

If you need to be told which box the ballots go in you shouldn’t be voting.

Likewise if you need a htv card for the lower house (at least).

What a farce our democracy is.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 7:10 pm

Hanson grandstanding again.
Someone’s only got to call her an antivaxxer and she’llbackflip and glorify all vaccines.
Latham’s the same.

Fuck off Grigory. The only grifter here is you.

Go be a low-energy mediocrity elsewhere.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 7:10 pm

Bill Cosby was tried twice for the same crimes. Rightly he is a free man.

You’re rewriting history to suit your own agenda.
Again.
Cosby pled guilty in Civil Court, the deal was that he wouldn’t be tried in Criminal Court.
That deal held up for a while and ultimately was the reason he was freed.
Make no mistake, Bill Cosby drugged and raped many white women.
And ended up getting away with it.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:11 pm

They can’t. Hence the island chains. The idea being that each is a whole, separate ring of fortifications that need to be cracked, reduced and then occupied.

I believe that the USA has conventional ordnance big enough to create manmade tsunami’s that would scrub them clean.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:13 pm

What is it with the Left, and ‘removing’ things they don’t like?

They have more in common with the Taliban than pretty much anyone else.

Winston Smith
December 7, 2021 7:15 pm

Rex Anger:

Like everyone said anti-tank missiles and smart bombs would render the tank an obsolete death trap in the 70s.

Yes. The Yom Kippur War was a surprise to the Israelis because the Egyptian army was initially handled competently.
Fortunately but at great cost to Israels armoured forces, they were countered. The battlefield is a constantly evolving environment. Today’s wonder weapon is tomorrows basic battlefield tool.
Even Orbital Kinetic Weapons can be countered.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 7:16 pm

I

f you need to be told which box the ballots go in you shouldn’t be voting.

Likewise if you need a htv card for the lower house (at least).

Assuming there’s more than 2 candidates, your candidate will have made some preference arrangement with the other candidate[s].
Their HTV will display this, always a handy bit of information.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:17 pm

The choggies are gambling the US won’t go the nuclear way in conflict.

That’s a hell of a gamble with Pedo Joe in charge, the chances of him accidentally authorising a nuclear counter strike is high, especially just before nap time.

Baba
Baba
December 7, 2021 7:18 pm

Hey JC, how come you don’t talk about your son? You don’t have one? He brushed you off?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 7:20 pm

I reckon nut case is munty. Same stupidity and the fat fuck couldn’t stay away for so long. He says he’s from Brissy, don’t think so.

Arky
December 7, 2021 7:22 pm

Today’s wonder weapon is tomorrows basic battlefield tool.

..
Not if you don’t have the manufacturing base it isn’t.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:22 pm

Spoke to my machinery moving bloke today. He can’t believe I’m not vaxxed, he reckons life would be hell.

He took AZ because he needed to keep his business going, got AZ. He’s fucking pissed at being forced into this. What makes him more pissed is that his son and daughter in law both took Pfizer, both crook and having heart issues.

What a fucking country.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 7:23 pm

The islands are the choggies Maginot line.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:27 pm

I reckon nut case is munty. Same stupidity and the fat fuck couldn’t stay away for so long.

I reckon you’re right, can’t help but always mention race, munty trait.

Arky
December 7, 2021 7:29 pm

All the euro motocross and enduro bikes now made in either India or China.
No more Huskies, Gas Gas, or KTMs.
Make hypersonic missiles?
Counter China?
Funny.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 7, 2021 7:31 pm

Make no mistake, Bill Cosby drugged and raped many white women.

Not to a provable level in a criminal court of law Whale humper.

Cosby’s lawyers wrote in a legal filing in arguments over the release of the testimony on Tuesday that quaaludes “were a highly popular recreational drug in the 1970s, labeled in slang as ‘disco biscuits,’ and known for their capacity to increase sexual arousal.”

The lawyers wrote that media reports inaccurately labeled Cosby’s testimony about the drug as a “confession of drugging and assaulting women.”

“There are countless tales of celebrities, music stars, and wealthy socialites in the 1970s willingly using quaaludes for recreational purposes and during consensual sex,” the lawyers wrote in the filing.

Arky
December 7, 2021 7:33 pm

Triumphs made in Thailand?
..

About another three years after that we built our third factory in Thailand; we decided to put in a process we’d never done before – high pressure die-casting. Historically we’d always bought crank cases from suppliers in Europe, but we decide that – to get the quality right – we’d set up our own facility. In that third factory we have high-pressure die casting, frame painting, crank-case and cylinder-head machining, as well as the full assembly process to build a bike. The Bonnevilles were some of the first bikes that we built there.”

Are any Triumphs still built here at Hinckley?

“We’ve got camshaft and crankcase machining here, and all of the cranks for all of the bikes around world are made here. We have a paintshop, as well as a setup to prototype anything that’s made in Thailand, so when we go into the development stages, a lot of the time the early fabrication for things like frames and swing-arms would be done in the UK. And then we have the assembly side here as well.”

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:34 pm

What should be done with Dan’s turtles when the revolution is over?

They must wear their turtle outfits whenever in public for the rest of their lives. You will be able to tell if they’re not dressed correctly by the large “Fuckwit” tattooed across their forehead.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 7:37 pm

All the euro motocross and enduro bikes now made in either India or China.
No more Huskies, Gas Gas, or KTMs.
Make hypersonic missiles?
Counter China?
Funny.

Show us how it’s done, by starting up a motor cycle manufacturing busIness or just STFU. Surely a thought leader and self confessed genius like you could become the Elon Musk of motor Cross bikes. Stop fucking whining and get going. You’re not eggsactly short of time.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:38 pm

or their oil supplies attempt to get through.

Don’t forget coal, bauxite and iron ore from The Penal Colony, they’re rooted without it.

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 7, 2021 7:39 pm

Rex Anger says:
December 7, 2021 at 6:55 pm

You can quote me if you like, but you have to include the hyperlink or the joke falls a bit flat…

I had to look it up, yes, most amusing.

I agree with Ernie, Stevie is a war criminal.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 7:41 pm

Don’t forget coal, bauxite and iron ore from The Penal Colony, they’re rooted without it.

Yea, of course.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:44 pm

Triumphs made in Thailand?

There’s lots of stuff made in Thailand, the Japanese in particular have set up a lot of manufacturing there.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 7, 2021 7:44 pm

coal, bauxite and iron ore from The Penal Colony

gimme more or I will nuke you!

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 7, 2021 7:47 pm

ICBMs have high trajectories up to 1000km or so so you have more warning and a pretty good idea from which direction they will come. They don’t dodge in terminal phase.
FOBS system actually go into low Earth orbit (LEO) and can remain parked there for a longish time before being activated. May only be 150 Km high when they come over the horizon from ANY direction and even lower if in terminal re-entry with associated short warning time. If the re-entry vehicle has hypersonic maneuver capability it can dodge during re-entry in atmosphere which complicates the defence.
Having said that there is some thought that the Chicom hypersonic test was being exaggerated by the Pentagon for funding issues. As Musk says, design and prototypes are easy, production is hard.
In any case the USAF has the X-37B of which little is said and it has remained in orbit for over a year at a time. Surely has payload bay capable of holding a nuke or to or three. As it has shuttle like wings the hypersonic L/D will give it significant aerodynamic maneuver capability during re-entry.
Nice thing you can put it in orbit for over a year at a time and bring it back to land on a runway for servicing before launching again.
The Chicoms aren’t as far ahead as you think (if at all).

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:47 pm

Antifa loon smashed with reality:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miYfBQS1Hpc

Runnybum
Runnybum
December 7, 2021 7:49 pm

Head prefect, stick with robbing people, you have no idea about the real world.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:50 pm

gimme more or I will nuke you!

You’re bluffing, I dare you to nuke Canberra! Our sacred and precious capital where all our smartest and bestest politicians reside! (snork!)

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 7, 2021 7:50 pm

The Chicoms aren’t as far ahead as you think (if at all).

We’ll find out when the first nuke goes off.
Or not long afterwards.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 7:51 pm

Ted

Sure, but tell us more about the Fed . As I said, remain silent until you’re told to speak.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 7, 2021 7:53 pm

where all our smartest and bestest politicians reside! (snork!)

double snork.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:56 pm

Cuomo done, Lemon next?

Smollet said Lemon was giving him information on CHP investigation progress.

Runnybum
Runnybum
December 7, 2021 7:57 pm

HP, who owns the USA Fed, edumacate me?

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 7:59 pm

You reckon Australian’s might be waking up to the need for a real Bill of Rights including a Right To Bear Arms?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjTGGzM5lhw

rosie
rosie
December 7, 2021 8:04 pm

Great day with my 17 month old gs today.
And next Tuesday my daughter and by then 19 month old gd are arriving from that state up north.
It’s been a very long nine months since I last saw them.
Things can only get better.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:04 pm

I reckon nut case is munty. Same stupidity and the fat fuck couldn’t stay away for so long.

Nah. The fat man’s language is far too consistent. Not a single example of you lot in any of Grigory’s textual belchings, and not quite enough Ideology, either.

The fat man still occasionally stirs himself sufficiently to launch the increasingly rare drive-by snark at the Discordant Cants Discord page, but his quality as a troll seems much-diminished.

It would seem that LockDan has broken even his most ardent Melbournite devotee…

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 8:05 pm

I told you last week, you imbecile, Ted

The Federal Reserve is a government agency. Like any federal government agency the word “ownership” doesn’t apply.

What I explained to you last time, you offensive galoot is that the New York Fed is minority owned by money centre banks. The majority is owned by the US government. I forget the historical reason, but look it up and come back and tell us why. At least it would reduce your trolling from the current 100%.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:05 pm

HP, who owns the USA Fed, edumacate me?

Rest assured that it ain’t who the Protocols say it is, Shit Dribbler.

Trust us on that…

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
December 7, 2021 8:06 pm

Two more days should see the end of the end of harvest for me and my juvenile off sider on the header. Young gel truckie will be needed for another week or so shifting tanks, bins and other assorted stuff scattered round the place.

Followed by a couple more days for repair and maintenance, then the obligatory BBQ and pissup.
Boss is ecstatic with the yield and quality this year despite some late rains and frosty nights.

Glad the end is in sight, I am getting too old and weary for the long hours, but a lot of satisfaction in seeing the crop in and realising I can now do a very nice pas-de-deux between the header and my chaser bin without smashing something.

Back to my indolent lifestyle by Friday next, the resident hound will be happy, the Dorpers will once again be plotting my demise if I go near the sour old things.

Healthy cheque in my pocket won’t hurt, either.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 8:06 pm

You reckon Australian’s might be waking up to the need for a real Bill of Rights including a Right To Bear Arms?

Disagree.
Bills of Rights are Trojan Horses that end up as Lawyers Picnics.
Australia’s problem is that we fell in love with Credit Cards early on
You can have a Right to Privacy or you can have a Credit Card, but you can’t have both.

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 8:09 pm

What is it with the Left, and ‘removing’ things they don’t like?

I’m so old I remember when the Left was against censorship.

Turns out it wasn’t a principle, just a tactic.

Who’d have thought?

bespoke
bespoke
December 7, 2021 8:09 pm

rickwsays:
December 7, 2021 at 7:44 pm
Triumphs made in Thailand?

There’s lots of stuff made in Thailand, the Japanese in particular have set up a lot of manufacturing there.

Smart move and I bet they don’t import workers to do the work.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 7, 2021 8:11 pm

Two more days should see the end of the end of harvest for me and my juvenile off sider on the header.

Harvest ban in the wheatbelt today, but we should finish by the weekend.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 8:11 pm

Pedro the Loafersays:
December 7, 2021 at 8:06 pm
Two more days should see the end of the end of harvest for me and my juvenile off sider on the header. Young gel truckie will be needed for another week or so shifting tanks, bins and other assorted stuff scattered round the place.

Pedro you’ve done more for your community than most politicians do. Do what the ABCess do and have a well earned break.

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 8:12 pm

Bills of Rights are Trojan Horses that end up as Lawyers Picnics.

Solved….Ed is John Howard.

bespoke
bespoke
December 7, 2021 8:14 pm

Good news, rosie.

bespoke
bespoke
December 7, 2021 8:15 pm

I’m so old

I know.

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 7, 2021 8:16 pm

Frank says:
December 7, 2021 at 7:00 pm

Wonder if the decor and amenities at a quarantine camps compare favourably to those at the immigration detention centres.

Good question.

Very important question actually.

Will the unvaxxed detainees get free smokes like the boat people?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 8:17 pm

Yeah you’re probably right Rex, I guess stupidity just runs to excess in the left. Maybe nutcase is the bright twin.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 7, 2021 8:17 pm

And a disarming first strike is an unattainable dream.

Launch half an hour after the National Command Authority has had his pudding cup.
He’ll sleep through the whole thing.

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 8:21 pm

Pedro you’ve done more for your community than most politicians do. Do what the ABCess do and have a well earned break.

The ski season in Switzerland is looking good.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:21 pm

I told you last week, you imbecile, Ted

Sorry, JC.

I meant to provoke the little squit into rage-quitting off the Cat again by reminding him of this last great rhetorical failure of his.

Sadly, the Shit Dribbler is proving more impervious to exposure to his own than I first feared.

A new tactic is required.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
December 7, 2021 8:22 pm

Twostix,
Sydney. Freedom day15th.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 8:24 pm

Here’s the thing:
Labor are always at war with the public.
If it’s not a fucking Biller Rites, it’s another Star Chamber overseen by people bwho belong in The Dock themselves.
Yeah, I know, Scotty removed the Conscientious Objection for vaccines, but if he hadn’a of, someone else woulda anyway.
Someone named PeanutHead or Albanese.

So pining for a Labor Government will end in disillusion, same as it always does, then a John Howard or Tony Abbott is elected and proceeds to break every promise in his first week.
Solution:
The Devil you know is always better than some Freedom Peddlin’ arsehole so
Stick with Scotty.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:24 pm

Bills of Rights are Trojan Horses that end up as Lawyers Picnics.

Funny how the American one has gone largely unchanged since writing, eh Grigory?

Perhaps the problem isn’t the document itself, but the tards who write and then exploit them these days to obtain and exert unaccountable power?

Fuck off and eat your mutton at someone else.

Arky
December 7, 2021 8:25 pm

Moving the entire world’s manufacturing to within a 2000 mile radius from Beijing.
Such a good idea.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:26 pm

Australia’s problem is that we fell in love with Credit Cards early on
You can have a Right to Privacy or you can have a Credit Card, but you can’t have both.

Americans got credit cards too, Gypsum-snorter…

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 7, 2021 8:26 pm

Rex A

and/or all the ASEAN and AUKUS powers and India agree to bottle up the bottom of the South China Sea and convoy all non-Chinese merchant shipping around areas of risk.

Block all Chinese bound shipping before it leaves the Indian Ocean, escort traffic to Japan/Korea/Taiwan east of the Philippines and Taiwan. Wait for the revolution to break out.

Arky
December 7, 2021 8:27 pm

Globalist scum still stuttering with incredulity that China didn’t progress to a Western democratic paradise now insisting that the de- industrialisation of the West proceed at real pace.
Now the cats out of the bag let’s really floor it.
Scum.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:28 pm

The Devil you know is always better than some Freedom Peddlin’ arsehole

Hand back that cheque GetUp! paid you to shill for the Labor Party right now, Grigory.

I will not suffer to have my tax dollars rorted so incompetently.

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 8:28 pm

The ski season in Switzerland is looking good.

As God is my witness one Sunday around February a few years ago I was driving home from an unavoidable commitment when I tuned into the ABC out of boredom (why else?).

Some second or third tier sports reporter I’d never heard of was waxing lyrical about her recent WEB skiing in the Swiss Alps.

Arky
December 7, 2021 8:29 pm

I think that’s worth a post of it’s own, don’t you?
Make it so Arky.

cohenite
December 7, 2021 8:29 pm

Why couldn’t the LAPD nail him then?

If he was as guilty as Roger Rogerson on bank cameras, fry the son of a bitch.

If not, he gets a walk.

Black, leftie jury, incompetent prosecution, ambivalent media coverage (although nothing like Rittenhouse). OJ was sued successfully by the relatives of his wife for damages because of the lower standard of proof.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:30 pm

Block all Chinese bound shipping before it leaves the Indian Ocean, escort traffic to Japan/Korea/Taiwan east of the Philippines and Taiwan. Wait for the revolution to break out.

That too. A reduced paychecque at the end of a foreshortened voyage to a different port always beats an insurance claim.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 8:30 pm

Block all Chinese bound shipping before it leaves the Indian Ocean, escort traffic to Japan/Korea/Taiwan east of the Philippines and Taiwan. Wait for the revolution to break out.

Dumb idea.
Chinese are extremely Nationalistic, threaten China and they will unite.
Leave China alone and you’ll get your desired internal Revolution.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 8:31 pm

Can’t wait.

Roger
Roger
December 7, 2021 8:31 pm

Either she’d inherited money or the tax payer is being ripped off.

That’s rhetorical.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:33 pm

Leave China alone and you’ll get your desired internal Revolution.

Of course they will, Tong Zhi Grigs.

But a most public failure to force their will upon the rest of the world will catalyse your demoraliseation and their popular discontent first.

And that is never a bad thing

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 8:34 pm

Arky says:
December 7, 2021 at 8:25 pm
Moving the entire world’s manufacturing to within a 2000 mile radius from Beijing.
Such a good idea.

Coming from someone hailing the greatness of making things, claims to have worked on production lines and manufacturing and then left to go into a tertiary job.

Hypocritical dickhead.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 7, 2021 8:36 pm

Mr Ed

Assuming there’s more than 2 candidates, your candidate will have made some preference arrangement with the other candidate[s].
Their HTV will display this, always a handy bit of information.

If you cannot decide on the order between three or four candidates without having your hand held, perhaps you shouldn’t be voting?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:37 pm

Chinese are extremely Nationalistic, threaten China and they will unite.

Is there anything you cannot get wrong, Grigory?

A more or less landlocked nation surrounded by hostile neighbours of its own making amd unable to feed and keep its own population warm without massive maritime imports, is not a nation to provoke its neighbours unless it sees the provocations as a means to keep the people distracted from rebellion.

As such, the war the PRC seemingly wants is probably likely to be the best of the many terrible outcomes that it could experience.

bespoke
bespoke
December 7, 2021 8:37 pm

Something, something plastic dog shit! bla bla bla plastic dog shit bla libertarians!!! bla bla bla! my left testy is itchy.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 8:37 pm

O.J. had been a gangbanger before he made it in College Football at USC.
One source says that Willie Mays took him under his wing and advised him to find new friends or his career would be ended before it started.
Interestingly, O.J.’s dad was a well known SF transvestite, Marvin Gaye’s dad was also, as well as being a Reverend.

132andBush
132andBush
December 7, 2021 8:41 pm

rickw says:
December 7, 2021 at 7:47 pm
Antifa loon smashed with reality:

That is seriously scary.

More people than we care to imagine are thinking like that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 7, 2021 8:42 pm

Unions in WA to get access to bosses’ homes

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Paul Garvey
16 minutes ago December 7, 2021
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Union officials would be able to enter the homes of employers under industrial ­relations changes set to be pushed through Western Australia’s Labor-controlled upper house this week.

The McGowan government’s Industrial Relations Legislation Amendment Bill is scheduled to be debated in the Legislative Council in the coming days.

Among the proposed changes is the removal of a provision of the current act that expressly prohibits union officials from trying to enter someone’s home.

That section of the act will be changed to allow union officials entry in “exceptional circumstances”, with the Liberal opposition arguing that those circumstances have not been ­adequately defined.

Opposition industrial relations spokesman Nick Goiran said the proposed changes would allow union officials to enter an employer’s home for the first time under WA law.

“It is entirely unacceptable for Premier McGowan to misuse his total control of the WA parliament and sneak this clause in under the guise of it only being used in ‘exceptional circumstances’. What could possibly justify a unionist entering a person’s home?” Mr Goiran said.

“If a unionist has a concern about something occurring in a person’s home then they should act like the rest of us and report the matter to the department or to the police.”

But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA ­Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.

The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery and removing exclusions for employees such as domestic workers who currently have no employment protections.

“Exceptional circumstances could include, for example, a sweatshop operating out of the employer’s home,” she said.

“The changing nature of work means that many employees now work out of private homes. They should not be denied employment protections based on their place of work.”

calli
calli
December 7, 2021 8:45 pm

Good stuff, rosie!

I’ll have 14 at the table on Christmas Day and 10 on Boxing Day. With probably some extras. Already working out what to cook in my mind.

Happy, happy days.

calli
calli
December 7, 2021 8:47 pm

And…I’m doing a lunch for 8 ladies Friday week. I love cooking, and Christmas gives me the best excuse of all.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 8:51 pm

Perhaps the problem isn’t the document itself, but the tards who write and then exploit them these days to obtain and exert unaccountable power?

Written by lawyers for lawyers and parliament is full of them. Name one lawyer in parliament you would have represent you in a court of law. Doesn’t matter what for.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 8:52 pm

Smart move and I bet they don’t import workers to do the work.

They do somewhat! A lot of friction between the Thais and Cambodians coming in as cheap labor!

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 8:53 pm

Calli

You’re such an “up” gal. Contentedness oozes out .

Do some stuff pork and have enough for Boxing Day. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 7, 2021 8:53 pm

Love your work Pedro.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 8:54 pm

But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA ­Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.

The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery

Looking forward to the day when the Public Service Union head in WA marches into Sneakers’ House and declares Right of Entry, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate!’

Arky
December 7, 2021 8:56 pm

Vietnamese slave labourers building a Chinese tyre factory in Serbia…

ZRENJANIN, Serbia (AP) — They are shivering in barracks without heat, going hungry and have no money. They say their passports have been taken by their Chinese employer and that they are now stuck in a grim plainland in Serbia with no help from local authorities.

These are the Vietnamese workers who are helping build the first Chinese car tire factory in Europe. The Associated Press visited the construction site in northern Serbia where some 500 of the workers are living in harsh conditions as China’s Shandong Linglong Tire Co. sets up the huge facility.

The project, which Serbian and Chinese officials tout as a display of the “strategic partnership” between the two countries, has already faced scrutiny from environmentalists over potentially dangerous pollution from tire production.

Now, it has caught the attention of human rights groups in Serbia, which have warned that the workers could be victims of human trafficking or even slavery.

..
Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China.

calli
calli
December 7, 2021 8:58 pm

It will be a table of “many meats”, JC. I have Jewish family, so much, much smoked salmon, fish and poultry as well as those products of the most meaty of animals. Plus lots of vegetarian items. They can work out what they want to sample.

Let’s just say it will be Hobbit-style. Rich, varied and prolonged. 😀

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 8:58 pm

Black, leftie jury, incompetent prosecution, ambivalent media coverage

You refused to lay your boots into the LAPD. Get mad, you bastard. Poison that pen and let rip.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 9:03 pm

Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China.

As I said, the hypocrite can show us how it’s done but he wants other people to do it.

And he can’t wait for tariffs and quotas either. Like that other turkey, struth, his Chinese made goods and components wouldn’t be any less than anyone else.

Talks the talk, but not the walk.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 9:08 pm

And he can’t wait for tariffs and quotas either. Like that other turkey, struth, his Chinese made goods and components wouldn’t be any less than anyone else.

What’s your best argument against Tariffs?
Let me guess:
It’s something like:
a Bus Driver can’t buy her wife a Mink Stole every other year?
Right?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 7, 2021 9:09 pm

Vis-a-vis Choos, I got hold of a book the other day called Jerusalem – The Biography by a bloke called Montefiore. About 800 pages, and I’m 200-odd in.

It’s a belter. I like history literature, but even so.

Got through the Davidians, Solomon, through to the Maccabeans (Hammers) and assorted others including Babylonians, Alexander and the Gliks, various Syrians [pricks] and Persians. The Herodian dynasty just finished, and I’m up to the bit where Titus is about the five hundredth bloke to have destroyed the joint. I haven’t even got to the Crusades yet.

Amazing historical book. Can recommend. Elite satisfaction.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 9:10 pm

Let me guess:
It’s something like:
a Bus Driver can’t buy her wife a Mink Stole every other year?

Put the Gypsum-pipe down, Grigory.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 9:11 pm

Watching CH 9’s QLD PM news now on you tube on the telly.

Fuck me you lot are psychos.

You lot make corrupt old Gladys look like a mere South American fuckhead dictator.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 7, 2021 9:11 pm

Amazing historical book. Can recommend. Elite satisfaction.

It’s nearly at the top of my “To read” pile.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 9:12 pm

Queenslanders. Real Australians. Good Germans. Nancy Wake would NOT like you.

Winston Smith
December 7, 2021 9:13 pm

rickw:

I believe that the USA has conventional ordnance big enough to create manmade tsunami’s that would scrub them clean.

Fuel/air explosive would do the job, or if they wanted to test them KEW from orbit, or a variant of this – the high altitude version. Just a big lump of steel with a few strap on boosters released at about 50,000 ft. The boosters keep accelerating it to top of arc then it tips over and the boosters continue to push it to Mach 10 or so. Terminal guidance package steers it to island airstrip.
No more island.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 9:14 pm

“Queenslanders have been living in cars and tents…”

“I am excited to get home…”

How the fuck are you excited? You should be praying that Anastacia Palaszcuk has cheese pizza on her laptop.

Jesus Christ. You’re real Aussies.

I. Am.Out.

Arky
December 7, 2021 9:16 pm

Dot says:
December 7, 2021 at 9:14 pm
“Queenslanders have been living in cars and tents…”

..
What’s this about?
Make yourself clear Dot.

Frank
Frank
December 7, 2021 9:18 pm

Winston Smith says:
December 7, 2021 at 9:13 pm

Is that the rods from god thing?

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 9:18 pm

Yes dot, make yourself clear or you’ll get banned.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 9:19 pm

Watching CH 9’s QLD PM news now on you tube on the telly

From today I believe.

Ch 9 news reports are literally psychotic.

Who (regularly) watches this fucked in the head nonsense?

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 9:22 pm

Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China.

Did anyone here ever excuse China?

Most Australian manufacturing survived 10 to 20 years after the end of tariffs. What fucked it in the end was unworkable labor laws and government red and green tape.

Manufacturing didn’t run to China, it was pushed there by our fuckwit governments not realising that not only does industry need to compete, but that also that government needs to compete.

Anyone starting any sort of business in Australia needs their head examined. And the last 2 years have only added to that assessment.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 7, 2021 9:23 pm

Mother Lode….I also heard the reason the kamikaze were more effective against American ships than British ones was that the British used metal decks while the Americans used wood.

True enough, but the Japanese – as you previously discussed in relation to damage control – had some fair ideas about it…the RN trained them before WWI, and the Brits were masters at it.

Arky
December 7, 2021 9:23 pm

Did anyone here ever excuse China?

..
Yes.

Indolent
Indolent
December 7, 2021 9:25 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 7, 2021 9:27 pm

Queenslanders. Real Australians. Good Germans. Nancy Wake would NOT like you.

No no no Dot, they are all – to a man, even Ed – steely-eyed flint-jawed rootin’ tootin’ dusty boot-having no-nonsense holdouts who would never ever put up with this nonsense.

Their barrel-stuffing South Australian import spoke for every last one of them. Repeatedly. That’s what he said. Until Pallashay turned into every bit of Andrews. Then he said it again.

Never saw Quenthland protestors break the police lines. Just sayin’.

They were probably too busy digging for AKs in Cherbourg.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 9:29 pm

True enough, but the Japanese – as you previously discussed in relation to damage control – had some fair ideas about it…the RN trained them before WWI, and the Brits were masters at it.

Although was it carrier Kaga (?) where they screwed up the damage control and managed to fill the whole hangar with Avgas vapour and then started ventilation to ensure that it had enough oxygen to go kaboom!

jupes
jupes
December 7, 2021 9:29 pm

Back in Oz. Self isolating in Sydney for three days. Good view of the bridge and Opera House, so there’s that.

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 9:30 pm

Back in Oz.

Insanity!

Winston Smith
December 7, 2021 9:31 pm

rickw:

Antifa loon smashed with reality:

That idiot reminded me of the lunatic Brad Pitt in “12 monkeys”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 9:31 pm

Manufacturing didn’t run to China, it was pushed there by our fuckwit governments not realising that not only does industry need to compete, but that also that government needs to compete.

Disagree.
Manufacturing was allowed to emigrate to China to make money on the difference in Labour costs.
They couldn’t and wouldn’t have done that under a Tariff Regime.
It all comes down to the question:

What’s the purpose of Australia?
To benefit Capital or to advance Labour?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 7, 2021 9:32 pm

Dot is right Queenslander Revin Kudd lived in a car for a night or two. Marked him for life.

calli
calli
December 7, 2021 9:34 pm

Welcome home Jupes!

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 7, 2021 9:35 pm

rickw

That might have been Taiho, which I mentioned earlier?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 7, 2021 9:38 pm

Back in Oz.

I’m back in a different bit of Oz. Wheat and sheep country, which is of course God’s country.

Most of the crops I saw on the way up were off, and few remaining were thick and buggery. Roos couldn’t get through them – they were bouncing off the top.

Crisp and clear cold, which is a pleasant change from the bastard misting windy cold in Mongyang this morning.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 9:39 pm

Forget it Rick. The dishonest scumbag doesn’t accept any of this. Like all leftwinger asshats he skips over what’s uncomfortable. He’s basically a social conservative with very leftwing economic policy views.

Most Australian manufacturing survived 10 to 20 years after the end of tariffs. What fucked it in the end was unworkable labor laws and government red and green tape.

Manufacturing didn’t run to China, it was pushed there by our fuckwit governments not realising that not only does industry need to compete, but that also that government needs to compete.

Anyone starting any sort of business in Australia needs their head examined. And the last 2 years have only added to that assessment.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 9:42 pm

Although was it carrier Kaga (?) where they screwed up the damage control and managed to fill the whole hangar with Avgas vapour and then started ventilation to ensure that it had enough oxygen to go kaboom!

That was the Taiho.

Kaga was destroyed by multiple fuel-air explosions after 3 bomb hits effectively detonated fully fuelled and armed aircraft below decks, ruptured the ship’s avgas lines and knocked out all electrical power and fire suppression systems. The resultant fires quickly cooked off ordnance stored on the hangar deck. And these were there due to the series of haphazard arm/disarm/rearm orders coming from Admiral Chuichi Nagumo as he first set up for a second airstrike on Midway Island, only to be suddenly presented with information that the US Navy’s carriers had appeared within striking range.

The Japanese were literally caight with their pants around their ankles, first by the uncoordinated arrival of the US torpedo bombers, which were wiped out, but drew the Combat Air Patrol out of position just as the dive bombers appeared.

Just about everything that could conceivably gone wrong for the IJN at Midway, did.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Some slurs above, against Mighty QLD. Saying Qlders haven’t tipped over barricades, fought govt directives, have sucked up to Pallet-jack, & so on.

You are all so wrong to say that. The earliest & (at the time) largest breaching of Covid health directives, was by Queenslanders!

The “Black Lives Matter” protests in Queensland were about three times the size of those in any other state. Heh! How’s that for breaching just about every health directive in force at the time?

That wasn’t just a breach of health directives, it was a full Mohne, Eder, Sorpe + 3 gorges dam, sized breaching of Covid law.

Nyeh nyeh nyeh. Put that in yer pipes & smoke it.
The slandering of Qld must now stop.

jupes
jupes
December 7, 2021 9:51 pm

Welcome home Jupes!

Not quite home yet calli. Will have to decide when I can be arsed doing the 14 days quarantine McClown is enforcing against poxed up NSW before I can get home.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 9:53 pm

He’s a simple, simple man.

Winston Smith
December 7, 2021 9:53 pm

ZK2A:

But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA ­Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.
The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery and removing exclusions for employees such as domestic workers who currently have no employment protections.

How long before the Union would be willing to set up a special squad with Security Licenses + weapons to invade anyone’s home on the grounds of suspicious activity resembling slave workshop?
“Sorry mate – we got word you were operating a sweatshop in your poolroom. Just send us the bill for the front door, the back door, oh and the ceiling we rappelled through.”

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 7, 2021 9:56 pm

Kevin Rudd wasn’t right about much, but he was right when he said this:

You can hear the banjoes playing once you’ve crossed the Pine River bridge.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 9:57 pm

The “Black Lives Matter” protests in Queensland were about three times the size of those in any other state. Heh! How’s that for breaching just about every health directive in force at the time?

Errr… Dubious Honour?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

You can hear the banjoes playing once you’ve crossed the Pine River bridge.

I don’t even know what that is supposed to mean.

Kevin Rudd was, & remains, a first class dickhead, poonce, wanker, & a tool.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 9:58 pm

Kevin Rudd wasn’t right about much, but he was right when he said this:

You can hear the banjoes playing once you’ve crossed the Pine River bridge.

So stop playing with it, Grigory.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Errr… Dubious Honour?

When you live in a state chockers with collaborators, you gotta take your acts of rebellion as you find ’em.

Old bloke
Old bloke
December 7, 2021 10:02 pm

rickw says:
December 7, 2021 at 9:22 pm

Most Australian manufacturing survived 10 to 20 years after the end of tariffs. What fucked it in the end was unworkable labor laws and government red and green tape.

And energy costs. We have the world’s most expensive electricity, why would anyone want to manufacture anything in Australia?

It’s the miners and the farmers who are keeping us afloat.

Arky
December 7, 2021 10:02 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

..
I owe you and Zulu apologies.
That I ever allowed the opinion of another to colour my replies to you both, which it did, speaks of a huge weakness in my character.
Sorry.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 10:08 pm

Will have to decide when I can be arsed doing the 14 days quarantine McClown is enforcing against poxed up NSW before I can get home.

That’s assuming your Good2NotGo gets approved, and/or no further fits of the Governmental vapours occur between now and February…

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 10:09 pm

You should also apologize to everyone for pretending you owned this blog or at least had any rights to anything other than that turgid crap you post where you threaten everyone who comments.

Go read an economics text book, you thoughtless loudmouth. Last time someone suggested this you were horrified.
You quota queen.

srr
srr
December 7, 2021 10:11 pm

Arky says:
December 7, 2021 at 8:56 pm
Vietnamese slave labourers building a Chinese tyre factory in Serbia…

ZRENJANIN, Serbia (AP) — They are shivering in barracks without heat, going hungry and have no money. They say their passports have been taken by their Chinese employer and that they are now stuck in a grim plainland in Serbia with no help from local authorities.

These are the Vietnamese workers who are helping build the first Chinese car tire factory in Europe. The Associated Press visited the construction site in northern Serbia where some 500 of the workers are living in harsh conditions as China’s Shandong Linglong Tire Co. sets up the huge facility.

The project, which Serbian and Chinese officials tout as a display of the “strategic partnership” between the two countries, has already faced scrutiny from environmentalists over potentially dangerous pollution from tire production.

Now, it has caught the attention of human rights groups in Serbia, which have warned that the workers could be victims of human trafficking or even slavery.

..
Never forget the years and years the shits on here excused China.

I just never got past Sinc’s keen support for ‘Shanghai Sam’ Dastyari.

win
win
December 7, 2021 10:15 pm

The reason Australian business went to China was because of the bloody mindedness of the Trade Union movement. We would still have manufacturing if the trade unions had not systematically destroyed businesses with their wild cat strikes, ever increasing wages and reduction in working hours with ever decreasing profitability .Their tactics can only mean that the Trade Unions are also in league with one world government China or they are real stupid.
Neither does China GST which Australian printers do. Our fully paid up printing factory is being sold off as I type., back space and delete.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 10:15 pm

And energy costs. We have the world’s most expensive electricity, why would anyone want to manufacture anything in Australia?

It’s the miners and the farmers who are keeping us afloat.

Very true and not anything to be sneezed at either. Those thoughtless wombats who suggest “weez don’t make nofing” don’t even realize we’re the most efficient farmers and miners in the world. We certainly have natural endowments in the sectors, but we’ve exploited these attributes to the n’th degree. These are a form of making something. However, a much superior job is sitting at the bench, pulling a lever and couple of seconds. That’s making something according to the thought leadership.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 10:15 pm

You quota queen.

…..Aaaaand I think that’s your stoush ration expended for the night, JC.

As such, I am exercising my RSA (Responsible Stifling of Altercations) training by saying the following words:
Mate, you’ve really had enough to stoush. Honest. Would you like a glass of water? Please gamble responsibly. No-one is safe until we are all safe. Can I get you a taxi? We are all in this together. All enemies of the regime will be executed. Hail Hydra.

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 10:16 pm

I just never got past Sinc’s keen support for ‘Shanghai Sam’ Dastyari.

WTF?

srr
srr
December 7, 2021 10:17 pm

So now WA Union Thugs won’t have to settle for leaving shovels on the porch, they’ll be able to deliver horse heads to the beds …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
December 7, 2021 at 8:42 pm
Unions in WA to get access to bosses’ homes

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Paul Garvey
16 minutes ago December 7, 2021
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Union officials would be able to enter the homes of employers under industrial ­relations changes set to be pushed through Western Australia’s Labor-controlled upper house this week.

The McGowan government’s Industrial Relations Legislation Amendment Bill is scheduled to be debated in the Legislative Council in the coming days.

Among the proposed changes is the removal of a provision of the current act that expressly prohibits union officials from trying to enter someone’s home.

That section of the act will be changed to allow union officials entry in “exceptional circumstances”, with the Liberal opposition arguing that those circumstances have not been ­adequately defined.

Opposition industrial relations spokesman Nick Goiran said the proposed changes would allow union officials to enter an employer’s home for the first time under WA law.

“It is entirely unacceptable for Premier McGowan to misuse his total control of the WA parliament and sneak this clause in under the guise of it only being used in ‘exceptional circumstances’. What could possibly justify a unionist entering a person’s home?” Mr Goiran said.

“If a unionist has a concern about something occurring in a person’s home then they should act like the rest of us and report the matter to the department or to the police.”

But a spokeswoman for WA Industrial Relations Minister Stephen Dawson noted that under the changes, union officials would need an order from the WA ­Industrial Relations Commission before they would be allowed to gain access to a home.

The changes, she said, were important for combating modern slavery and removing exclusions for employees such as domestic workers who currently have no employment protections.

“Exceptional circumstances could include, for example, a sweatshop operating out of the employer’s home,” she said.

“The changing nature of work means that many employees now work out of private homes. They should not be denied employment protections based on their place of work.”

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