It was reported today in NSW that thirty-two people had died with covid in the previous 24 hours.
Five of those who died had received two jabs plus a booster. That’s 16 percent. Less than the 28 percent of adults who’ve received a booster in NSW. That gap seemed to instil cavalier confidence in CHO Kerry Chant. To wit: “Five had received a booster underlying the importance of a third jab.” Well, of course, it doesn’t underly the effectiveness of a third jab at all.
The boosters are very fresh. Despite that freshness, five people succumbed. A rather high percentage of deaths in the circumstances. Expect it to rise as the boosters rapidly run out of puff.
Recall when the boosters came in. At least six months after being double jabbed was the call. Now it’s now to three months. After what interval will a second booster become de rigueur; essential in fact. Who’s for a rapidly-following third booster and beyond?
Reportedly eight of the thirty-two deaths were among those unvaxxed. That’s 25 percent, which is far higher than the 6 percent unvaccinated. But the relative incidence of deaths among the vaxxed and unvaxxed is narrowing as the apparent short-lived protection of vaccination is lost. Unfortunately too, constructive ambiguity (propaganda?) colours the extent of information made public.
We need to know the age and morbidity status of those dying cross referenced against their vaccination status. It seems quite likely to me that among the old and very sick, there might be a disproportionate reluctance to be vaxxed in case it causes harm. If that’s the case, it would not be surprising that the unvaxxed are disproportionately represented among those very sick and dying. At the least, this factor might be skewing the figures somewhat. It’s hard to find the unadorned truth in times of war they say. Ditto in these times of covid hysteria.
46 thoughts on “To Boosters and Beyond”
The absolute risk reduction is two fifths of 10% of fuck all.
Unless and until the “health gods” give us the whole story as to cause of death and effectiveness of the so called vaccine I will remain unvaxxed. As a fit and healthy 73 year old I prefer to take my chances with Moronic to testing a spike protein inhibitor.
Truth and honesty are always the first casualties.
btw… try the UK reports for more data, although they don’t break down deaths by variant and vaccination status.
We can’t expect the authorities to release all these stats and information . . . it would bell the cat.
We need to know the age and morbidity status of those dying cross referenced against their vaccination status. It seems quite likely to me that among the old and very sick, there might be a disproportionate reluctance to be vaxxed in case it causes harm.
Yes, true. There will also be those who accept that their life is near an end. My father was like that. At 88 years he had a disease that was treatable, but ultimately fatal if not. He had enjoyed a great life but with his wife already gone, he told me he was ‘ready’ and will accept the march of time.
How many of these deaths are people dying with Covid, and not from Covid?
How many have actually caught Covid in the hospital?
The greatest risk factor, I reckon by far, is
. The Covid might just help them along.
The best thing is to keep your immune system up. I’m taking, like a lot of others I have read about, plenty of VitD, zinc, and quercetin supplement, as well as regular exercise.
This is exactly right and is a well known (but little publicized) phenomenon of flu shots as well.
If you’re at death’s door in a hospice or chemo ward you won’t get a vaccine because there’s no point. So it almost always looks as though the shot (flu/covid) saves lives.
The fact that the data is underwhelming in terms if favorability to the vaccine indicates that the vaccine is probably highly fatal.
These people who are dying after being boosted are clearly extremely ill, and would have died anyway.
Their immune systems were shot.
If your immune system is buggered, no amount of boosters will save you, whether its COVID, Staph, Listeria,or any one of a bucketload of different bugs that inhabit our hospitals.
Reportedly eight of the thirty-two deaths were among those unvaxxed.
Do we know whether “unvaxxed” means unvaxxed, or whether it includes others, e.g. people first-jabbed less than 21 days ago?
If all eight were actually people first-jabbed less than 21 days ago, that would shed a very different light on things.
I don’t know what the answer is, but I’ve seen a few references on this site to dodgy government definitions of “unvaccinated”.
Yet the previous day in NSW
New South Wales has reported its deadliest day of the coronavirus pandemic with 36 fatalities recorded on Tuesday.
The previous high was 29 COVID-related deaths on January 14.
Hospitalisations continue to soar with 2,850 patients receiving care, up 74, and 209 in intensive care, up six, on the previous day.
Of the deaths, one was aged in their 40s, two in their 50s, one in their 60s, 11 in their 70s, 12 in their 80s and nine in their 90s.
The majority, 33 of the 36 deaths, were vaccinated against with a coronavirus vaccine.
Two of the three under 60-years-old had not been vaccinated with one double dosed.
NSW Chief Health Officer Doctor Kerry Chant said all three had “serious underlying health conditions”.
Universal public health decrees that insist on treating all the same are in conflict with our understanding that we vary greatly. If your body is able to rally its antibody troops and adapt them for a previously unexperienced virus, then it’s likely it can do it again, and most probablty for new variants. But if your body needs synthetic prompting, good luck because we know that protection decays.
PS – Who transmitted the infection – was it the vaxed or the unvaxed?
The whole circus becomes more outrageous everyday.
If you want to hear a sane and informed opinion spare 20 minutes to listen to the most recent episode/podcast of George Christianson interviewing Robert Malone.
Already, Dictator Dan is talking boosters after only three months.
He has missed the memo that the vaccines don’t work, and in fact make things worse.
He can go f@#k himself AFAIC.
At age 80 I have two choices, Buckley’s and Nunn for if I get “jabbed” I might succumb to the “jab” as two friends have done and died fairly painfully as their systems shut down one by one until they drowned from lungs filled with fluid, or I still might get the dreaded and die, but if I don’t get jabbed I might also die. Heads or tails, but having survived this long I will take my chances and remain unjabbed. The odds favour me being unjabbed.
From the Times of Israel:
Nearly a month after Sheba Medical Center launched a landmark study to test the efficacy of a fourth COVID shot, the hospital said Monday that this fourth booster was only partially effective in protecting against the Omicron strain.
“The vaccine, which was very effective against the previous strains, is less effective against the Omicron strain,” Prof. Gili Regev-Yochay, a lead researcher in the experiment said.
“We see an increase in antibodies, higher than after the third dose,” Regev-Yochay said. “However, we see many infected with Omicron who received the fourth dose. Granted, a bit less than in the control group, but still a lot of infections,” she added.
“The bottom line is that the vaccine is excellent against the Alpha and Delta [variants], for Omicron it’s not good enough,” she said.
Regev-Yochay added that it is still probably a good idea to give a fourth shot to those at higher risk, but intimated that perhaps the current campaign, which also offers the jab to the over-60s, should be amended to only include even older groups. She did not elaborate.
The hospital did not release more specific data. Regev-Yochay said the results of the research are only preliminary, but indicated that she was providing the initial information since there was high public interest in the matter.
Hours after releasing the results, Sheba published a statement calling for “continuing the vaccination drive for risk groups at this time, even though the vaccine doesn’t provide optimal protection against getting infected with the variant.”
Hebrew media reported that the hospital was pressured into issuing that statement after the Health Ministry didn’t like the publication of the study’s initial results.
You really do wonder why they are so keen to try to make us take ever more of the Frankenstein jab, when it is so obvious now that it doesn’t even work. And Yellow Card, VAERS etc reports of deaths and serious side effects still climbing inexorably.
Because none of this has anything to do with a virus.
Peter, you lost me at “with” in the first line.
I’m glad I came to the comments though- duncanm nailed the first colours to the mast, and bemused, spot on.
El gato looks at the UKHSA stats vaxx v unvaxxed and omicron. It doesn’t look good for the vaxxed.
“Two jabs good, four jabs better!”
“All animals are equal, but some are more equal that others.”
data from Scotland – refer page 36
vaxxed at twice the rate of hospitalisations compared to the unvaxxed, and it gets worse the more jabs you have, illustrating the negative efficacy of the gene therapy.
yet I am surrounded by scared hysterical nutcases who want everyone, including 5 year olds, jabbed
I am despondent and utterly sickened by this whole fiasco, a rolling train wreck. Well that was in November.
Since Omicron came along I’ve been much cheerier and confident that is fuck all. And looking back Delta was fuck all too. The worst of it was when stupid governments herded old people into aged care homes, and insisted that windows should not be opened.
There’s also been the manipulation of ‘data’ and what someone above called a psychops. Indeed.
But now I’m getting a bit miffed. Being British this means I’m at the stage of ripping someone’s face off.
I now hate, despise, loathe and abhor Scott Morrison. I’ve decided to vote against the Liberals and the Nats (your wee pal Barnaby is just as bad).
I’ve not decided whom I should vote for yet. I’m in AnnaStasiLand and would appreciate some advice. If need be I’ll just not vote at all. Perhaps the noble, principled course is not to vote for any of the fuckers at all.
It really can only be mass non-compliance, as they’ll only charge at us like Cossacks, shoot at us and use tear gas. The police here are utter thugs, a disgrace. They’re like extras in a Schwarzenegger film.
The vaccines do not work very well, understood. Omicron is a natural vaccine against Corona, even Scientists know that. So why not just let Omicron do its natural thing? Cui Bono?
Och, my wee ranting tirade got lost in the ether. The important bit, for me anyway, is I’ll never vote for Morrison or your wee pal Barnaby.
I live in AnnaStasiLand so any advice on a voting strategy would be appreciated.
Our bureaucracy only knows one thing now in response to people getting the sniffles – more of the same idiotic policies.
But lockdowns are unpopular whereas vaccines (for now) are popular. So the only possible solution is more, and more frequent, boosters.
This doesn’t end until a strong plurality opposes any more vaccines. Unfortunately, as I’ve previously said, Australians are the most brainwashed and evil people on the planet when it comes to vaccines so the damage will be astronomical before enough people turn against them.
Even then, governments will probably overplay their hand for a fair while after.
I’m with the Duc.
Bravo. Your attitude is what built the Western World.
Also, what CL said.
Always good to see you, Botswana.
It is true that those dying despite boosters were too far gone for the booster to make any difference, but we don’t know in advance which of those boosted they are.
People should entitled to make that decision, one way or another.
I know one person who caught Covid and tested positive 21 days after receiving the third Pfizer shot. Of 5 vaccination in our micro world 4 caught covid one remained negative as it did the unvaccinated one with co morbidities. How long can the farce of the fools continue.
Progress report: Nose still running but not as freely as yesterday, now have a minor league headache (not a six-panadol-and-a -dark-room bathed in misery, as on Monday, when it was a pounder), throat a bit sore (comparable to the consequence of shouting abuse and encouragement through four quarters of a Bulldogs’ march to victory). Bowels, which had been troublesome, have ended their state of open revolt.
Oddities: Eyes are gritty and itchy and watering on and off, like hay fever but more persistent. Sleeping long and deep, which is a blessing. Chalked up 16 hours in the arms of Morpheus on Monday. Last night’s sleep was magnificent. Appetite — blah, but stirring. Thinking of having a Goan fish curry for tea tonight and the idea appeals, which it wouldn’t have done two days ago.
Today is the third day of IVM, zinc and antibiotic (God bless Indians and their mailing service).
Expectation: Right as rain by the weekend.
Now, TGA, where’s my Novavax so I can get on a plane and see my son? Pull your finger out, schmucks, or are you just too tired after banning my nicotine vapes?
Dr David Pitcairn MD, 1749-1809.
Slightly paraphrased (without altering the meaning) in Lord Moran , Churchill – The Struggle for Survival 1940-1965, Heron Books, p. 572.
Dr Pitcairn’s wisdom would not go amiss in medicos advising (dictating to?) feckless politicians about COVID-19.
It was and remains a threat principally to the frail elderly and those of younger years with co-morbidities. The vaccines, so called, are experimental and another matter altogether.
And, from Kanaduh:
But WAIT! There’s MORE:
They most likely died because they were *untreated*. Seems like best case you go to hospital – “Here’s oxygen, best of luck to you.” worst case – “Here’s a ventilator and remdesivir – RIP.”
The infamous “horse dewormer” won’t do you any harm and it might even make you better…
Luddite fascist filth. The sooner they are removed from the wheels of Government the better.
Vaxxie boosters can kiss my arse.
How long can the farce of the fools continue.
A long long time. You will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the average Australian.
“How long can the farce of the fools continue.”
Only until the MSM starts asking hard questions. They don’t appear to be ready, willing or able to do so yet. I suspect they only will if, as and when one of their own dies – either directly from booster number 487, or after getting COVID post vax.
It will start for them very small, then turn into an avalanche.
The MSM will RedCon the masses into believing that it’s not their fault, and that they really didn’t like the vaxes from the get-go, but felt obliged to “follow the science” etc ad naseum.
They will blame the pollies.
Pollies will blame “The Science”, talk about “World’s best practice” etc and throw CHO’s under the bus in a vain and sorry attempt to save their own arses.
If they are very lucky, the pollies won’t be murdered by a rampaging mob and will instead hide in some out of the way place where they are unlikely to come across anyone who wants revenge, probably getting tax-payer funded “protection” of one form or another.
one tenth as bad as delta???
Considering the profound technological difference between mRna and traditional vaccines, data may be quite different for the two.
Suspiciously, no data is available, so I suspect Pfizer is having poorer outcomes.
Crunching some numbers?
The late Kary Mullis, INVENTOR of PCR, speaks:
Take some diphenhydramine (antihistamine) it’s on the list of recommended early treatment medications. Also helps you sleep.
It must be blatantly obvious by now that the jab either is the virus, or at least lays the groundwork for catching it by compromising your immune system. The medical profession [I use that term advisedly] in Australia can’t be too concerned because to a man [or woman] they refuse to use Ivermectin. You cannot even mention the name in The Australian or any other paper without being censored. Our media is in a parlous state and the medical profession smacks of criminality. One day this should be investigated and heads should roll.
Today is the third day of IVM, zinc and antibiotic (God bless Indians and their mailing service).
Details, if you wouldn’t mind, please.
I have just recovered from COVID I am 68 a smoker and I have been taking a steady diet of supplements of vitamin d zinc , c , and quercetin for the last year as well as prophylactic ivermectin for the last 4 months
And I recovered from COVID in 4 days, apart from some fatigue for another week. Why are we not treating people , I have no trust in the medical profession who have allowed ATAGI allow people to die