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The Choice of Hercules, Annibale Carracci, 1596

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John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 10:44 pm

“Once Eberl and Walker separated from Rolfe, the threat to Rolfe diminished,” he wrote in one of three reports. “Walker was likely a low threat to Eberl at the time of the second and third gunshots. Walker’s right arm was likely pinned under his body.”

Dr McIntosh explained that was because “if you’re using a weapon in your hand, and your arm is pinned in that way, then it’s very difficult to develop force with the weapon that you have because you can’t … exert a force onto someone else.”

A biomechanics expert with hours to examine the videos makes a judgment that Rolfe was expected to make in a few seconds. Give that doctor a medal for excelling in the role of Captain Hindsight.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:45 pm

17,000 Physicians and Medical Scientists Declare “COVID National Emergency Over” and Call on Congress to Restore Constitutional Democracy by Ending Emergency Powers

The International Alliance of Doctors and Medical Scientists announced their support to end the national emergency concerning COVID-19 as it is no longer necessary to protect public health.
https://globalcovidsummit.org/news/physicians-and-medical-scientists-declare-covid-national-emergency-over

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 10:45 pm

I am sure my dear departed Grand dad could have regaled you with tales of companionable chit chat whilst waiting to use the thunder noxes while under fire from the Bosche. Or not.
Why in the name of fuckity fuck would you fill your water bottles where you shit? Does exposure give you immunity from cholera or something?
Please tell. I am intrigued.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 10:46 pm

srrsays:
February 25, 2022 at 10:43 pm

It is difficult to imagine people so totally stupid and self-defeating as the ones Western peoples trust with leadership.”

One of the great unsolved mysteries of human behavior is our remarkable technological capacity and ineptitude in choosing leaders.

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 10:46 pm

One has to use the latrine but doesn’t the water cart

BoN, if you Google Australian Imperial Forces sanitary cart and look at images you see images of furphy water carts.

You can piss and shit anywhere, at most you need a spade, but you absolutely need potable water. This most probably took hold at Gallipoli where keeping up the potable water supply was a major logistical effort.

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 10:48 pm

I am 40m away, if I can help

Really?!!

Rabz
February 25, 2022 10:51 pm

the aboriginal teenager

No, no, no, Eddles.

It’s:
“The proud first nations’ kidlet”, driven to allegedly destructive incidents that could be construed as regrettable acts, by hypocritical racist white middle class boomer imbeciles (BIRM), because the kidlet was born with an unfortunate imbibage habit cerebral impairment and will never be allowed to progress beyond that sad emptiness, which was all due to colonialism and capitalism.

Why use three words, when forty three beckon? You’ve disappointed us, again. 😕

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 10:51 pm

Rex,
I’ll just phone it in.
Yours truly
Old fat and lazy.

PS don’t forget the comradely poohs under fire.
Even the thought of imminent death couldn’t get the bowels to move after a few days on passion wracs.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 10:59 pm

Sydney has the advantage of having a separate set of platforms for their inter-city and inter-state services apart from the suburban services, it’s a pity that the WA railway planners didn’t do likewise all those years ago.

Strictly speaking, they did. It was just 3’6″ Cape Gauge, and the line East stopped at Kal until 1917. Then you had a nice super-duper long platform to change from ‘The Kalgoorlie’ or the later ‘Westland’ to the ‘Trans-Australian.’

The new SG line was deliberately designed to be separate from its conception, so sadly not much chance of that any longer. 🙁

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 11:00 pm

Max @AuH2O
29s ·
Flashback: Remember When Joe Biden Gave Putin a List of the 16 Entities That Would Cripple the US if Hit by Cyberattacks?
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/flashback-remember-joe-biden-gave-putin-list-16-entities-cripple-us-hit-cyberattacks/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

cohenite
February 25, 2022 11:01 pm

STFU donut.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 11:03 pm

Rex,
I’ll just phone it in.
Yours truly
Old fat and lazy.

But, but, where am I supposed to get my competent wheelbarrow gunner from now? 🙁

I am sure as hell not taking Grigory…

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 25, 2022 11:04 pm

I am 40m away, if I can help

Really?!!

Yep, get Dover to connect if needed, I pass the Bridge often

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 11:13 pm

BoN, if you Google Australian Imperial Forces sanitary cart and look at images you see images of furphy water carts.

Fair enough Rick, but why would you call a water cart a “sanitary cart”. And why would the troops gather around a water cart to gossip and fill their water bottles under potential shell-fire?

I’m just passing on what I read from the WW2 official history (see link upthread). I have Bean’s volumes on a shelf but haven’t read his account yet.

Rabz
February 25, 2022 11:13 pm

The Pauline Cartoons are the best. You want realistic political commentary, Cats – then feel free to watch them – while you still can.

And no, I am not a one nation voter, never have been, nor never will be (#informal4evah).

Latho and the Pauline – classic Ozzie characters.

Enjoy, those ‘toons*, peoples – spot on as they are. 🙂

*Created by a Cat, it might seem.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 11:17 pm

A biomechanics expert with hours to examine the videos makes a judgment that Rolfe was expected to make in a few seconds.

That was the point that was made every time we were armed on duty. “For chucks steak, if in any doubt, don’t shoot.”

Rabz
February 25, 2022 11:23 pm

Err, God – any chance of toning down the biblical downpours, thanks Squire?

You could always gift them to somewhere else on the planet.

We are not worthy of your attention*. 🙂

*Trust me on this.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 11:24 pm

Daily Mail.

‘Putin is shaking in his boots!’: Twitter users remark on Harry and Meghan’s defiant statement that they ‘stand with the people of Ukraine’

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are ridiculed after intervening in Ukraine crisis with statement on Archewell
They ‘stand with the people of Ukraine’ and ‘encourage the global community and its leaders to do the same’
But couple were criticised for ‘breathtakingly arrogant’ statement and for ‘once again making this about them

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
February 25, 2022 11:25 pm

Ed Mong is the Cats Colombo.

If Colombo was a special needs meth addict who only had access to the mongternet. And the only site he could access was encyclopaedia dramatica.

At the end of each episode with the killer plunging the knife into the victims chest while screaming “ die, die, die” Ed Mong will turn at the door survey the scene and say.
“ just one more thing”
Before blaming “ glowies” and fingerprinting in his own poo.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
February 25, 2022 11:26 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 11:26 pm

You could always gift them to somewhere else on the planet.

Could you mail a few buckets of it Westward, Rabz?

All Flanneries (and buckets) graciously accepted over this way… 🙂

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 11:32 pm

Hmmph.
MacBeth got shivved in the end.
Sorry to spoil it for everyone.
So, what news from the Ukraine?

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 11:32 pm

Correct about Furphy’s Rick.
I remember my uncle telling me explanation when I was a kid.

Razey
Razey
February 25, 2022 11:33 pm

Russia has restricted access to its airspace to all aircraft “owned, leased, or operated by any person connected with Britain or registered in Britain.

rt.com is down. Apparently taken out by Anonymous.

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 11:33 pm

I see once again the lie that I have investments in ‘big pharma’ is being trotted out.
Whatever rocks your genetic lines.

Razey
Razey
February 25, 2022 11:34 pm

hmm. RT must have just gotten back up.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 11:38 pm

Flying Duk,
Scuttlebut is an Americanism and as such is yukkie.
I would have written before but was fascinated by skinny wee wegies pretending to be highlanders.

Indolent
Indolent
February 25, 2022 11:38 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 11:38 pm

Zyconoclastsays:
February 25, 2022 at 11:26 pm

Why, Zycon?

Why?

#SufferNotTheFurryToLive

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 11:38 pm

Much more realistic that people would hang around latrines for a chinwag than a water cart though.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
February 25, 2022 11:40 pm

James Costas twitter

In 2016, as U.S. Ambassador, I visited #Kyiv to meet with Ukrainian #LGBTQ+ activists; they were determined to stand up for their rights, today I’m heartbroken for them and hold them in my prayers. #StayStrong @KyivPride ???????????

Razey
Razey
February 25, 2022 11:44 pm

Sounds like Vlad is ready to negotiate Ukraine surrender. I doubt Vlad will allowed them to keep any access to the sea.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
February 25, 2022 11:45 pm
Rabz
February 25, 2022 11:48 pm

Next Saturday’s Radio Show is on, Cats – 7:00pm March 5 2022 – New Wave 1978 – 1985.

The dates are very deliberate.

Here’s a taster. 🙂

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 25, 2022 11:49 pm

February 25, 2022 at 11:45 pm

.
@McDonalds
is suspending all of its restaurants in Ukraine.

That’ll larn Putin.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 11:50 pm

Razeysays:
February 25, 2022 at 11:44 pm
Sounds like Vlad is ready to negotiate Ukraine surrender. I doubt Vlad will allowed them to keep any access to the sea.

He wants more access to the 90% anoxic Black Sea, probably to bury more bodies. Tough luck Vlad, the bodies won’t decay there.

Ukraine is lost. Baltic States take note, request lots of surface to air and antitank missiles.

Razey
Razey
February 25, 2022 11:54 pm

Vlads speech.

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/here-is-the-full-text-of-putins-speech-this-morning-feb-24-2022/

At the same time, everything it regards as useful is presented as the ultimate truth and forced on others regardless of the cost, abusively and by any means available. Those who refuse to comply are subjected to strong-arm tactics.

Fuck the West. They are pack of lying, cheating, smirking, woke pieces of shit.

Rabz
February 25, 2022 11:54 pm
Beertruk
Beertruk
February 25, 2022 11:55 pm

areff:
February 25, 2022 at 8:00 pm

The Manchester was underpowered and the Vulture engine failures were a major problem. Have an enginge failure on one engine, you were only going down. On that basis, you could say that the Lancaster should not have been developed/made. But, the Manchester was redesigned with four Rolls Royce Merlin engines instead of the problem Vulture engines and ended up carrying a ten ton payload. Fantastic aircraft. Was in the running to drop THE bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the B29 had to have major modifications to carry them and they weren’t sure that they would be finished in time. The Americans said that ‘no way was a foreign aircraft going to drop our bomb.’[Ref: War’s End: An Eyewitness Account of America’s Last Atomic Mission
by Charles W. Sweeney
] * A bloody good read if you can get hold of the book.

It certainly didn’t acquit itself with aplomb in Vietnam, where, if memory serves, the first six deployed all punched holes in the jungle before being withdrawn after about six weeks.
Loses in Vietnam.
No. Three:
Linky:
F-111.net
Operation COMBAT LANCER, 1968; Vietnam, South East Asia, In 1967 the 428th Tactical Fighter Squadron at Nellis AFB, NV began operational tests of F-111A aircraft in a program named Harvest Reaper. The USAF decided to send six aircraft to Takhli RTAFB, Thailand as part of that testing and to provide critically needed radar bombing capabilities in bad weather. This was Operation Combat Lancer. Although the aircraft showed promise, continued issues and the loss of three aircraft after only 55 missions caused the aircraft to be withdrawn and returned to Nellis AFB to continue its development.
28 Mar 68, 66-0022. Omaha 77. Lt Col H E MacCann, Capt DL Graham.
No crash site has ever been located despite several air and ground searches by the Joint Task Force-Full Accounting and the cause of the loss has never been determined.
30 Mar 68, 66-0017, Hotrod 76, Maj AA Alexander, Capt JV Hodges.
The wreckage was recovered and taken to Takhli RTAFB. Initial suspicion was that the crash was caused by a tube of sealant left in the aircraft from manufacture lodging in the control linkage, but subsequent Investigation revealed that the cause of the crash was a structural failure of an actuating valve in the stabilator system. Fleet wide inspections showed 42 other aircraft with the same defect.
Apr 22, 1968, 66-0024, Tailbone 78, Lt Cmdr DL Cooley (USN),Lt Col ED Palmgren.
Based on witness statements and the material recovered, the JTF-FA report concluded that the site could be associated with Tailbone 78, but no remains were located and nothing was recovered that might help determine the definitive identification of the wreckage nor the cause of the crash.

As for the goop and asbestos, it is evil shit. Pre OH&S which bit the RAAF in the arse. The ‘can do’ attitude of ‘prioritising platforms over people.’
This is a good book about the F111 if you are interested areff:
From Controversy to Cutting Edge A history of the F-!!! in Australian Service by Mark Lax.
My copy has been chewed by the bloody dog. I now believe it when kids say ‘the dog ate my homework.’ Lol 🙂

Beertruk
Beertruk
February 25, 2022 11:56 pm

From Controversy to Cutting Edge A history of the F-!!! in Australian Service by Mark Lax.

Curses: From Controversy to Cutting Edge A history of the F-111 in Australian Service by Mark Lax.

Iron Cove
Iron Cove
February 26, 2022 12:00 am

13 days out from the Willoughby bye election in NSW and the Electoral Commission has managed to count nearly 40,000 of the 55,000 eligible votes.
Only one in three voters turned up on the day or voted early.
Probably one in ten didn’t bother to vote at all, based on the record.
Today was the cutoff for receipt of postals.
That leaves tomorrow’s final count of up to 10,000 votes to conclude proceedings.
Early votes went 5:4 to the Libs.
On the day votes were split 50:50.
The two postal vote counts show an increased Lib margin of nearly 2% of all counted votes.
About 13% of all votes exhausted. ie no preferences marked for either of the last 2 candidates standing.

My comments on the above;
The COVID election legislation enabling up to 100% postal voting was bullshit.
Will there be a late anti govt swing with tomorrow’s count?
Have the Feds passed similar legislation? If they have it threatens to make mockery of the upcoming Fed. election if the result is close.
Anybody know?

srr
srr
February 26, 2022 12:00 am

Godsgrl4Freedom @Godsgrl4Freedom
·15h
“Aftermath footage of The Ukraine…
Nah just kidding. This is Minneapolis after BLM & Antifa Rioted”
https://t.me/The_Library_II/71431

https://gettr.com/post/pwn22w0418

Razey
Razey
February 26, 2022 12:01 am

Vlad speaks the truth:

Therefore, one can say with good reason and confidence that the whole so-called Western bloc formed by the United States in its own image and likeness is, in its entirety, the very same “empire of lies.”

Beertruk
Beertruk
February 26, 2022 12:01 am

That’ll larn Putin.

Bet Putin was shitting his daks when he saw this:
NATO

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 26, 2022 12:02 am

Curses: From Controversy to Cutting Edge A history of the F-111 in Australian Service by Mark Lax.

That’s good reading.

Razey
Razey
February 26, 2022 12:03 am

Vlad continues:

Properly speaking, the attempts to use us in their own interests never ceased until quite recently: they sought to destroy our traditional values and force on us their false values that would erode us, our people from within, the attitudes they have been aggressively imposing on their countries, attitudes that are directly leading to degradation and degeneration, because they are contrary to human nature.

areff
areff
February 26, 2022 12:07 am

Thanks, Beertruck — I knew six figured in Vietnam, so thanks for correction on the three crashes.

As to good books on the F-III, this one has a ripper chapter or two on Convair, GD, Howard Hughes fantasy ‘Golden Arrows’

Beertruk
Beertruk
February 26, 2022 12:10 am

Zulu, it is a good book, and not cheap, but my copy is damaged becuse the BLOODY dog decided she wanted to gnaw ( gnaw: bite at or nibble something persistently. “catching the dog gnawing on my expensive book”) on it.

Bruce in WA
February 26, 2022 12:13 am

Have what is called a “venous lake” in my bottom lip. Like small varicose vein — about 1/2 cm x 1/4 cm.

It’s not a problem, but grandkids hate it, as do my daughters, so I went and had it lasered.

DON’T F***ING DO IT!

Imagine a red hot needle plunged into your lip to about 5mm depth maybe 16 times. Before, you could barely see it. Now, it’s a black-capped, white-edged bloody balloon. It’s the first time I have been grateful for masks!

This better work or the grandkids are on the bloody Dubai market!

Rabz
February 26, 2022 12:17 am

Willoughby bye election in NSW

Beryl Gladyschlocklian’s erstwhile electorate.

They’re all so unhappy about her bowing out.

Except for those of us who are not. Dazza McG (Beryl G’s root) got busted doin’ dodgy deals in my electorate (Burka’s federally, no idea who the state member is) and Beryl G was dragged in.

Cats, one cannot even describe in mere words how much one is not a fan of Beryl G and her equally loathsome accomplices.

However, lengthy public floggings, hanged by their necks until dead and the subsequent implementation of HOP Time, might soothe my mood, so to speak. 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 26, 2022 12:17 am

Zulu, it is a good book, and not cheap, but my copy is damaged becuse the BLOODY dog decided she wanted to gnaw ( gnaw: bite at or nibble something persistently. “catching the dog gnawing on my expensive book”) on it.

The Memsahib’s dog – a Jack Russell – chewed one, and one only, book from my collection – Bernard B. Fall’s “Hell In a Very Small Place.”

“If that fooking dog ever chews any more of my books, we get the dog rehoused.” Five years down the track, and it’s worked so far….

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 26, 2022 12:22 am

New thread trendsetters.

No fat chicks.

Frank
Frank
February 26, 2022 12:23 am

Jack Russells can be a bit bitey like that. My mother is mad for them, one of which shredded a Persian rug in a fit of pique. They are still cool dogs though. Threatening them with being poorly taxidermied works also.

Razey
Razey
February 26, 2022 12:23 am
srr
srr
February 26, 2022 12:25 am

Lying racist says …

rosie says:
February 25, 2022 at 11:33 pm
I see once again the lie that I have investments in ‘big pharma’ is being trotted out.
Whatever rocks your genetic lines.

I know, you’re relying on no one new here knowing of you (like JC), boasting on Sinc’s Cat of your investments in biotech firms, that you swore blind you checked had absolutely no connection to aborted baby parts *insert eye roll*

Rabz
February 26, 2022 12:26 am

Could you mail a few buckets of it Westward

Smoke signals have been sent, Squire … 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 26, 2022 12:27 am

Dog stories..
When we “had the farm” the sheepdog was a Border Collie – I reckon they made the best sheepdogs – whose full name was “Mongreluselessfvckingblackbastard.” I tired to tell the Memsahib that that translated into English as “Noble and hardworking hound”, but she didn’t believe me….

Beertruk
Beertruk
February 26, 2022 12:32 am

areff:
February 25, 2022 at 8:00 pm
‘…stupendous contractor corruption.’

I concur…areff and Zulu…if you want to know about governments, contractors and corruption they got up to, get this book:
The Arms Bazzar by Anthony Sampson

Its a bit dated now but it goes from pre-WW1 up to just before the Shah gets kicked out of Iran.

rosie
rosie
February 26, 2022 12:32 am

I was very clear I had a small investment, I still do, in a Australian medical research company.
This company has nothing to do with big pharma and big baby parts you disgraceful liar.
There was no boasting, just a point being made made that biotech doesn’t equal the big evil.
Incidentally hypocrite no doubt you refuse any treatment that involves the use of modern medicine?
I didn’t think so.

rosie
rosie
February 26, 2022 12:34 am

Srr; perfectly sanguine about the thought of dead Ukrainian civilians as long as they are splattered surgically in strikes against defined military targets.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 26, 2022 12:35 am

Hehe. Image the outrage of the Karens over here if the gov dropped truck loads of AK’s for civi’s to use

“Here’s an assault rifle and plenty of ammunition. Sell your lives as dearly as you can.”

Beertruk
Beertruk
February 26, 2022 12:43 am

My Old Man’s work dogs were called ‘Getinbehindyouuslessfuggingbastard”Nonotthatfuggingwaytheotherway”whereismybloodyshotgunI fuggingswear’

Me, I was generally called ‘Nonotthatfuggingwaytheotherbloodyway’or ‘GetoutofthefuggingyardIlldoitmeself.’ 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 26, 2022 12:50 am

‘GetoutofthefuggingyardIlldoitmeself.’

Now, listen , Dad, I get to choose the nursing home..

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Yair. When I was a kid all the dogs were named “Comebehindyoubluddeemongrel”

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 26, 2022 8:13 am

Ed Casesays:
February 25, 2022 at 10:21 pm
John Kerry: “I hope Mr Putin will stay on track with what we need to do in respect of the climate.”

It’s a warning.
Yeah, we let you take back the Donbass, don’t go Off Script on all the other bullshit, and we might let you keep it.

I told you earlier Dick Ed, lay off the magic ‘shrooms.

PS, Putin was never “on script on all the other bullshit”. I’m astonished that a Spook like you wasn’t aware of that.

Top Ender
Top Ender
February 26, 2022 10:41 am

This is an ex-thread.

It has ceased to be.

Zatara
Zatara
February 26, 2022 1:30 pm

Not only did the Germans veto kicking the Russians off SWIFT.

No, they didn’t.

Germany’s finance minister said Friday that his country is open to cutting Russia off from the SWIFT interbank payment system, the crackdown on financial transactions that some have described as the “nuclear option” of sanctions.

Winston Smith
February 26, 2022 2:45 pm

A question for all the amateur detectives here.
How big an entry wound does a shank make when it pierces the heart and the person ends up with cardiac tamponade?

Take your time. You have three minutes before the heart stops. Plenty of time.

Supplementary question:
How big an entry wound did Trotsky have when he met his end with an ice pick?

Woolfe
Woolfe
February 27, 2022 1:22 pm

Don’t worry, whatever Russia Sanctions are imposed the #Swiss will make a $ Zillion from them.

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