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The Choice of Hercules, Annibale Carracci, 1596

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 6:36 pm

From the Oz:-

Putin-supporting candidate dumped from Palmer’s UAP

United Australia Party leader Craig Kelly says he has disendorsed the party’s candidate for the Melbourne seat of Macnamara after it emerged he was a supporter of Vladimir Putin.

Mr Kelly said he had confirmed the accuracy of The Australian’s report on Wednesday, showing Jefferson Earl saying he was a supporter of Mr Putin while claiming Western nations would be to blame if Russia invaded Ukraine.

“I spoke to our people in Melbourne and they confirmed he had said that,” Mr Kelly said.

“So I said ‘he needs to be disendorsed’, and they agreed.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 6:37 pm

Tintarella di Lunasays:
February 25, 2022 at 6:09 pm

Was wondering if Putin takes Ukraine will the sins of the son and the Big Guy will come to light?

Well it was one stonking big bonfire of official papers they were burning in Kiev, but then Team Trump did claim to already have collected major loads of the evidence, so unless Team Biden knows, can find and ‘disappear’ every lacky who can testify to the legitimacy of the paperwork …

JC
JC
February 25, 2022 6:42 pm

cohenite says:
February 25, 2022 at 6:30 pm

The plain lesson from Putin’s invasion of Ukraine is energy independence yet the greenies continue on their path of social suicide:

NY Climate Commies Protest Gov. Hochul: Ban Gas, Make NY Electric!

The greens are insane but it’s an insanity that is based on a death wish. I think it’s time we thought of them as genetic mistakes corrupting the general gene pool.

Cronkite, they don’t see it as failure, but in fact success. The more expensive fossil fuel derived energy, the better it is, according to them. Think in their terms, not ours.

JC
JC
February 25, 2022 6:44 pm

USSR

Go fuck yourself.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 6:45 pm

@ Old Bloke-

Rex Anger, would you know why the standard gauge railway in Western Australia terminates at East Perth instead of the main Perth railway station?

When the Standard Gauge was completed from Kalgoorlie in 1966, Perth Railway Station was fully built out and occupied with narrow gauge metropolitan and country passenger and freight traffic.

Because of the way the city had been built up around the original station (1890s vintage, and built on what was the northern edge of Perth town at the time), there was no room for further expansion or regauging of any existing track. The decision was instead made to create a new passenger terminus as close as possible to the centre of town and centralise the WAGR’s administrative facilities there.

If you want an idea of what it was like in the steam era, jump on the Rail Heritage WA site’s photo gallery and search for ‘Perth Station.’ It was a busy and crowded old place, as everything destined for Fremantle ran through there.

In its current status as a metro terminus, I think Perth is almost as spartan and threadbare as it was in the early colonial days…

Gilas
Gilas
February 25, 2022 6:46 pm

Gentle people.. one and all..
Please look at the latest livestreams of the catastrophic Russian attack on Kyiv from Fox News, or the WaPo.

The Russians seem to have developed stealth bombs and missiles, so stealthy they can’t be seen, or heard.
The horror!

Any other video evidence of this WW3 precipitant is welcome.

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 6:46 pm

What Global Communists have spread around the world (not only the West), are NOT ‘vaccines’, they are an evil against humanity & God and they’ve only been some practice runs of targeting genetic lines.

???

You have no proof of this and do not understand what you are talking about.

This is seriously unhinged, batshit crazy stuff.

You will not be proven right later down the track like Alex Jones re: frogs and atrazine.

JC
JC
February 25, 2022 6:46 pm

Ted, I’m perfectly fine. How’s the banana picking going? Are you at least keeping up with the daily quota?

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 6:47 pm

I have a question.
If masks, hand sanitising and social distancing don’t work, how come no-one has the flu?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 6:47 pm

Between Grigs and SRR, there has been far too much retardation on this blog today…

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 6:48 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 25, 2022 at 6:22 pm

Was wondering if Putin takes Ukraine will the sins of the son and the Big Guy will come to light?

Why would he care, that’s America’s problem.
What Putin has promised to do is hunt down those who burnt people alive in Odessa in 2014.
He said so in his speech yesterday, their names are known and he ain’t happy.

7:24pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/02/21/ukraine-russia-invasion-news-latest-putin-biden-war-updates/

Putin lashes out at Ukrainian authorities for persecuting opponents of anti-Russian revolution of 2014
President Putin lashed out at the Ukrainian authorities for going after those who opposed the 2014 revolution, pledging to “punish” those responsible for a deadly fire in a Black Sea city.

Mr Putin said Russia “knows the names of those responsible for the tragedy in Odessa and will do all we can to punish them.”

42 people trapped in a building in Odessa burned, suffocated or jumped to their deaths in May 2014.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 6:49 pm

Mr Kelly said he had confirmed the accuracy of The Australian’s report on Wednesday, showing Jefferson Earl saying he was a supporter of Mr Putin

Jefferson Earl?
Like in Married, With Children?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlfWUoMO4q4
It’s bullshit, just like Palmer and his Party.

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 6:49 pm

Which ‘genetic lines’ have been targeted and what has happened to them?

And what are ‘genetic lines’?

cohenite
February 25, 2022 6:49 pm

On balance I think this is the best of the light machine guns, the CZ BREN 2. One for every person.

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 6:50 pm

Being locked up is different to masks not working (peer review research).

You can lock down to not get COVID or the flu, but it’s a dumb choice.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 6:53 pm

Boambee Johnsays:
February 25, 2022 at 6:22 pm
Farmer Gezsays:
February 25, 2022 at 5:53 pm
Putin’s Hitler, Stalin, the devil or some such crap spouted by neutered Western leaders.
The one similarity to the lead up to WWII that I can see is Stalin’s destruction of the entire officer corp in the soviet army for political purposes.
Woke Gender Generals have been installed in the western military and will be as useless as you could imagine.

When the bullets started flying, Stalin soon cleared out the dregs, the lucky ones got sent to a penal battalion, the unlucky were shot straight away. Those who could deliver results moved up quickly.

The same will happen in the western armies once the bullets start flying. We can but hope to last long enough for the cream to rise.

George Marshall was promoted over around 400 US Army officers higher on the seniority list.

Marshall and Stalin had something in common. Marshall retired many generals and colonels because they were old\and not up to scratch. If a commander failed on a mission he could be relieved and perhaps demoted but that didn’t spell the end of his career, some moved to higher ranks. Marshall’s attitude was simple: the commander probably gave it his best shot and failed, no point giving him another go at that particular mission. In a lecture I posted here some time ago the point is made that generals were successful in WW2 because they were replaced and seniority was not on Marshall’s scorecard for leaders. The lecturer argues that today the military no longer subscribes to Marshall’s rapid get rid of ’em if they fail strategy and that is why military leadership in modern times is of lower quality than in WW2.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 6:54 pm

🙂

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 6:54 pm

If masks, hand sanitising and social distancing don’t work, how come no-one has the flu?

The flu has been wearing one of those sexy, sexy masquerade mask things to go with its slinky evening dress or neatly fitted suit (depending on which way your imagination tends).

A natty Omicron one, at present. 🙂

JC
JC
February 25, 2022 6:56 pm

John H

The lecturer argues that today the military no longer subscribes to Marshall’s rapid get rid of ’em if they fail strategy and that is why military leadership in modern times is of lower quality than in WW2.

I’m not so sure one can make that claim because it would need to be tested in an all out war.

cohenite
February 25, 2022 6:56 pm

Good people. Peter Ridd and Jennifer Marohasy start their Real Science Project:

https://realscience.org.au/?tfa_next=%2Fresponses%2Flast_success%26sid%3D601f727264d612c142167b9c7f758622

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 6:57 pm

Marshall and Stalin had something in common.

Weeeellll…

George C. Marshall didn’t mass-murder all the ones he didn’t like.

And didn’t constantly try to sideline and hide away the very good ones on whom his dreams of continued dynasty relied…

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 6:57 pm

OCO:

Brain-dead Western meddling in Ukraine caused this. US double-dealing with post-Soviet Russia caused this.

Startin’ to look that way, eh?
Our masters have worked on the premise that we hate Putin more than we hate them.
I think they may have made a really dud call.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 6:58 pm

rosiesays:
February 25, 2022 at 6:49 pm
Which ‘genetic lines’ have been targeted and what has happened to them?

And what are ‘genetic lines’?

Writer probably meant genetic clines, which is reference to gene distributions in a population across a geographic region. It is not possible to target clines or lines because these are typically small allele changes(slight gene variations) because it is extremely difficult if not impossible to target small changes in genes without impacting the other alleles for that gene.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 7:01 pm

JCsays:
February 25, 2022 at 6:56 pm
John H

The lecturer argues that today the military no longer subscribes to Marshall’s rapid get rid of ’em if they fail strategy and that is why military leadership in modern times is of lower quality than in WW2.

I’m not so sure one can make that claim because it would need to be tested in an all out war.

He examines their performance in Iraq and Afghanistan and obviously thinks there were many strategic errors made. Also, today they aren’t sacking generals for stuff ups that in WW2 would have meant immediate relieving. They couldn’t cut in the smaller conflicts so thankfully there hasn’t been an all out war. Another obvious example if Vietnam, one huge clusterfuck of leadership after another, with McNamara being the Chief Clusterfucker.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 7:01 pm

Which ‘genetic lines’ have been targeted and what has happened to them?

And what are ‘genetic lines’?

Nuffy-speak for racial targeting. Something else to do with the Narrative that the Red Shoe-Wearing Tunnel Lizards are trying to murdergenocide us all and corrupt and enslave our bodily fluids, I suspect…

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 7:03 pm

Just read the ‘how dare you’ comment Winston.
I suggest you go back and read what you wrote.
Citing the Geneva Convention in the context of an invading country that didn’t comply with the Geneva Convention, was the actual invader (not the allies seeking to free France) as a reason for the French not to resist perhaps wasn’t the persuasive argument you thought it was.
I wasn’t suggesting you thought the Germans were the good guys, though it did look like you were suggesting the massacre of French civilians was the responsibility of the French resistance, not the Germans who actually committed the crime.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 7:04 pm

The lecturer argues that today the military no longer subscribes to Marshall’s rapid get rid of ’em if they fail strategy

Marshall didn’t replace Mark Clark, so you’re argument is dead in the water.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 7:06 pm

Wodger:

“These are deeply disturbing times for the international community and for people everywhere who care about freedom and democracy,” Trudeau said.

He got that right!

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 7:06 pm

Remember the Jabs that the world protested against being mandated after the evidence of their many horrific & deadly dangers (backed up by actual experts), could no longer be denied?

Some can’t.

It’s like it all went, ‘Poof!’, all those dead people and those seriously damaged for life must be forgotten and we’re now supposed to go back to trusting Big Pharma.

Told you herding cats was easy.

I am not a cat.
I am a humane human being.

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 7:07 pm

Throwing out wild guess now.
‘Genetic lines’ is vaccines designed to target white people fertility in cunning new racial genocide attempt?

Lysander
Lysander
February 25, 2022 7:08 pm

Reports that Ruskies have taken control of several Ukrainian military vehicles and have infiltrated Kiev…

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 7:09 pm

Another obvious example if Vietnam, one huge clusterfuck of leadership after another, with McNamara being the Chief Clusterfucker.

McNamara wasn’t a General, though he had been an executive at General Motors.
Why not quit while you’re behind?

Old bloke
Old bloke
February 25, 2022 7:11 pm

Rex Anger says:
February 25, 2022 at 6:45 pm

Because of the way the city had been built up around the original station (1890s vintage, and built on what was the northern edge of Perth town at the time), there was no room for further expansion or regauging of any existing track.

Thanks Rex. We’re really just looking at a short distance, approx 2 kms, of narrow gauge railway being replaced with shared narrow / standard gauge railway. I assume that the railway sleepers would be longer (wider?) than the narrow gauge sleepers, but that shouldn’t be too much of an obstacle.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 7:13 pm

ZK2A:

The same reason many Italian Prisoners of War wanted to stay in Australia after the war – Post – war Italy didn’t have much to offer its citizens? Some families are into their third generation – the grandchildren all have Australian accents as broad as any.

When Stepdad Jack got out the army after a prolonged stay in the bomb happy ward, he went home to the missus and two kids. Unfortunately there were two Italian PoWs doing farm work there and were not amused at him turning up – nor was the missus.
They beat him fairly badly from all accounts and chucked him off the property.
He went back a week or so later, grabbed the kids and schooled them on the road.
Both of them turned out well, but.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 25, 2022 7:14 pm

Groogs, you’re leaving the lids off the formaldehyde during the day again aren’t you?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 7:17 pm

Marshall didn’t replace Mark Clark, so you’re argument is dead in the water.

Umm, the fact that Marshall was largely responsible for Clark’s rise in the first place may have had something to do with his reluctance to sack his protege.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 7:18 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 25, 2022 at 7:09 pm
Another obvious example if Vietnam, one huge clusterfuck of leadership after another, with McNamara being the Chief Clusterfucker.

McNamara wasn’t a General, though he had been an executive at General Motors.
Why not quit while you’re behind?

He was the Secretary of Defense.

McNamara wrote in a 1995 memoir that his own behavior in shaping the war was “wrong, terribly wrong,” but, to many—including then-editor of the Times Howell Raines—that confession was too little, too late.

“His regret cannot be huge enough to balance the books for our dead soldiers,” Raines wrote in an editorial. “The ghosts of those unlived lives circle close around Mr. McNamara.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 7:22 pm

rosiesays:

February 25, 2022 at 7:07 pm

Throwing out wild guess now.
‘Genetic lines’ is vaccines designed to target white people fertility in cunning new racial genocide attempt?

Uh-huh.
Riiigggt.
Where did this come from?

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 7:23 pm

rosiesays:
February 25, 2022 at 7:07 pm
Throwing out wild guess now.
‘Genetic lines’ is vaccines designed to target white people fertility in cunning new racial genocide attempt?

Rosie by people who know less about genetics than me hence can dream up impossible genetic weapons.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 7:23 pm

Wodger:

After a similar experience recently, I’ve concluded that the sooner pharmacists are replaced by robots the better.

I’ve been using that pharmacy for nearly 14 years now.
No more – go online, I don’t have to argue with them about my scripts and his authoritarianism.
“I can only supply what is on the script.”
“I think you have enough of them already so you can’t have them.”
I don’t argue with people, I just don’t go back. Arguing with someone on a power trip is useless. That’s their game and they can play it all by themselves.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 7:27 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 25, 2022 at 7:04 pm
The lecturer argues that today the military no longer subscribes to Marshall’s rapid get rid of ’em if they fail strategy

Marshall didn’t replace Mark Clark, so you’re argument is dead in the water.

It is not my argument you pitiful display of ratiocination. It is the argument of a military expert regularly called upon by head military honchos to provide advice.

areff
areff
February 25, 2022 7:28 pm

McNamara worked for Ford, not GM, one of their “whiz kids”. Sort of explains why the F-111 was a flying Edsel

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 7:28 pm

He was the Secretary of Defense.

No shit, Sherlock?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 7:31 pm

It is the argument of a military expert regularly called upon by head military honchos to provide advice.

Has he been advising those, heh, “head honchos” who thought it was a great idea to keep supplying missiles to Ukraine the last 8 years?

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 7:35 pm

Is there an Edsel Club in Australia?

Hello, Spare Parts?
I’d like a grille for my ’58 Edsel.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 7:35 pm

BoN:

Easier than invading Taiwan since there’re no pesky American aircraft carriers in the Gobi Desert.

Depends if it’s me doing the navigating…

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
February 25, 2022 7:36 pm

On the Frogs vs resistance bit.

The Frogs were brave and the multiple attacks had a minor impact militarily but were useful in tying up 2nd line troops and gumming up logistics etc.
The Boxheads had made it very plain that attacking them would mean massively disproportionate reprisals on locals near attacks.

I’m unsure if the partisans who attacked were locals or not. If they weren’t then it was a bit shitty to have attacked there.

Cassie of Sydney
February 25, 2022 7:37 pm

This is a very good summary of Putin’s actions…from Fox News.

“Why Putin’s playbook can’t be stopped: Russian-born US intel expert”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJW7tn4wPys

Beertruk
Beertruk
February 25, 2022 7:40 pm

McNamara worked for Ford, not GM, one of their “whiz kids”. Sort of explains why the F-111 was a flying Edsel

He wanted a common aircraft to be used by the US Navy and the Airforce. It was worked out that it was too heavy to be landed on carriers, so the Navy version was scrapped. Also when the problems were ironed out, it turned out to be a very capable aircraft.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 7:43 pm

I’m unsure if the partisans who attacked were locals or not. If they weren’t then it was a bit shitty to have attacked there.

They were communists who’d fled Spain, since Franco wanted to have a quiet word about some missing Clergy.
They were just snipers, if retaliation was carried out against local villagers, it didn’t worry them.

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 7:50 pm

“Yeah but forget all that, Putin’s doing surgical strikes against legitimate military targets that have killed far less people than Cuomo killed, let alone all the others killed by their Western Govts Covid Protocols & Jab Mandates”

For someone who was furious, furious, at me for my failure to show conspicuous compassion towards a lady with a dislocated shoulder, that doesn’t sound like much concern for the war dead in the Ukraine, just as long as it’s ‘surgical’ ‘legitimate military targets’ and *far less people* right?

cohenite
February 25, 2022 7:51 pm

The left now spewing the lie that if Trump would have been Potus Ukraine would have been worse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv4v4flXtPk

Stephen King is the ugliest guy alive and a shithead to boot.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 7:55 pm

They were communists who’d fled Spain, since Franco wanted to have a quiet word about some missing Clergy.

Nope.

Some may have been hiding out, but there were plenty of actual French Communists who formed the Maquis.

The Maquis were not the only movement that formed the French Resistance

There were various saboteurs, spies, bombers, radio operators and more from all walks of life…

They were just snipers, if retaliation was carried out against local villagers, it didn’t worry them.

… And practically all of them were locals, working out of their own homes and villages, towns and cities.

The only vaguely near equivalent of the roving bands of mercenaries you seem to have imaginated for this latest exercise in your retardation, Grigory, were the SOE radio operators and other agents parachuted in from the UK from 1940-44 and the SAS Jedburgh teams inserted just prior to D-Day. And they all were tied to supporting operations in specific regions and liaising with specific groups.

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 7:57 pm

Ok ed case.
There were some Spanish Republicans marquis,in the South, and some eastern European refugees, I don’t think Jean Moulin was one though.
And the trouble is when you visit the locations in question, everyone knows the names of the resistance members, their families, where they lived, which school they attended, how old they were when they were killed.
For example René Bye native of Tarbes age 19 in 1944 when he was summarily executed by the Germans.
Now he has his own Rue and before and after photos in the local musee.

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 7:57 pm

I have a question.
If masks, hand sanitising and social distancing don’t work, how come no-one has the flu?

And yet they all still got Bat Flu…..

Bat Flu is the fucking Flu.

It makes no sense that “Flu” disappeared, “Bat Flu” appeared, and yet annual mortality rates remained the same.

Frank
Frank
February 25, 2022 7:58 pm

Even some of the functions of lawyers will go that way eventually.

I remember seeing somewhere recently (maybe here) that some country was introducing AI to try crimes. China I think.

We have a legal aid lawyer down here that runs on the volume principle, she gets everyone to plead guilty and gets the basic fee for minimal work. Must suck to get assigned that one if you didn’t do it. You might stand a better chance with an algorithm.

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 7:58 pm

Exactly Rex.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 7:59 pm

Thefrollickingmole says:
February 25, 2022 at 7:36 pm
On the Frogs vs resistance bit.

The Frogs were brave and the multiple attacks had a minor impact militarily but were useful in tying up 2nd line troops and gumming up logistics etc.

Some may have forgotten from 1940-44 that most of southern France was under Vichy control.
French police and agents did the population control work for the Germans leaving them free to concentrate on the occupied area.

areff
areff
February 25, 2022 8:00 pm

it turned out to be a very capable aircraft.

People with soft spots for dud planes are like men married to ugly women. They’ll never admit it.

It was a disaster from the moment they took the TFX contract off Boeing, despite winning four selection processes, and gave it to General Dynamics, which had just recorded the biggest corporate loss in US history after being jerked around by Howard Hughes, who wanted a fleet of golden-aluminium Convair jetliners for TWA. That it also happened to have a huge plant in Lyndon Johnson’s state (Ft Worth) didn’t hurt either.

Yes, I’ll agree the F-111 managed to perform the roles it was assigned in later development. But it was conceived as a fighter-bomber, not an electric warfare plane, as it became in Wild Weasel iteration, nor as a fuel-dumping airshow star. It certainly didn’t acquit itself with aplomb in Vietnam, where, if memory serves, the first six deployed all punched holes in the jungle before being withdrawn after about six weeks.

The F-111 represents everything wrong with materiel procurement, then and now: revolving door transfers from Pentagon to contractor; a plane that was supposed to do everything; ordering “off plan”; stupendous contractor corruption. I could go on, but that pedigree is its hallmark, not that it was revised and obliged to take up new roles for which it was never designed nor intended.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 8:02 pm

John H

It is not my argument you pitiful display of ratiocination.

I think that might be a bit too subtle for Dick Ed.

rosie
rosie
February 25, 2022 8:03 pm

Covid might have a higher reproduction rate than other types of flu, I’m not arguing for compulsory masks, especially for children, I’m just suggesting they may have reduced transmission rates and I have zero problem with people at risk from covid continuing to choose to wear them, because it’s quite possible it’s the sensible thing to do, along with frequent hand sanitising.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 25, 2022 8:03 pm

Musician Chris Rea’s old man was Italian, seems they weren’t uncommon in post war Britain.
When I was a kid in Essex, just north of the Thames, the local icecream suppliers were the Bastiani ice cream company.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 8:04 pm

They were communists who’d fled Spain, since Franco wanted to have a quiet word about some missing Clergy.
They were just snipers, if retaliation was carried out against local villagers, it didn’t worry them.

Dick

Ease of on the magic ‘shrooms.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 8:04 pm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1326447/

https://futurism.com/the-byte/bioweapons-kill-people-specific-dna

China’s Nightmarish New Bio Weapon Targets Race and Ethnicity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biNxl7tiVSY

laowhy86
4 months ago (edited)
Whether or not this technology can be used in the way that the PLA military scientists want it to be used (I’m very skeptical after speaking to people in the field) it’s the intention and principle of this research, and the brazen publications highlighting the maliciousness that counts.
***
Meanwhile, like everything that, ‘wasn’t possible’ until it became common place, the work on it hasn’t stopped, and it has people like Fauci’s of the world behind it.

So, Fauci & Co.’s gain-of-function gives us a bad cold that kills fat people & black people at a higher rate than even other very sick people, while little kids (who usually snuffle up like ooze machines with everything out there), are unaffected, but meh.

Funny how many characters here come out wildly shooting the messengers of topics that the West’s Enemies would rather we ignore.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 8:05 pm

it turned out to be a very capable aircraft.

if McNamara had anything to do with it I’d expect the opposite

Bruce in WA
February 25, 2022 8:05 pm

CZ Bren 2

Make mine the 14″ barrel in 7.62 x 39 please.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 8:05 pm

“Yeah but forget all that, Putin’s doing surgical strikes against legitimate military targets that have killed far less people than Cuomo killed, let alone all the others killed by their Western Govts Covid Protocols & Jab Mandates”

Not sure that moral equivalence works.

custard
custard
February 25, 2022 8:07 pm

I find it hard not to look at the Russia/Ukraine situation without considering the first impeachment hoax trial.

Surely Putins actions will destroy the money laundering deep state?

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 25, 2022 8:08 pm

rickw, my pal who is building the Pietenpol Air Camper has scored a newly re-built Ford Model A engine for $1400 which he’ll put in it. As it isn’t a go places , just a fly around the local area early in the morning or late in the afternoon, aircraft, this will make it much more authentic and likely worth more.
The conversion of the Model A engine to aero engine appears to be no big deal. Outstanding!

custard
custard
February 25, 2022 8:10 pm

Well, make a big difference….

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:10 pm

Thanks Rex. We’re really just looking at a short distance, approx 2 kms, of narrow gauge railway being replaced with shared narrow / standard gauge railway. I assume that the railway sleepers would be longer (wider?) than the narrow gauge sleepers, but that shouldn’t be too much of an obstacle.

Yeah. The Loading Gauge is not really practical to widen now, due to the built-up nature of the city. Particularly once you get to Claisebrook and McIver, where you have some 4 tracks on a very tight curve into a confined space. Also, the nature and frequency of the PTA’s services is something that makes external access and deconfliction painful. It is better to keep the two separated, with limited pathways extended to external services that do not come all the way into town. There are also no platforms in Perth Central that could fit a full-length IP, and trying to run the Prospector or AvonLink services out of there would only impose timetable delays from the sparks coming and going around them, to no practical benefit.

Since all the Standard Gauge facilities were built around Forrestfield and Kewdale and down to the then-new bulk port at Kwinana (all of which was on the very edges of town in the mid-late 1960s), there was no point trying to extend anything further into Perth proper. If room could be found for it anyway.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 8:11 pm

Putin’s best weapon against the US would be the release of a dirt file on the political elites.
There’s no doubt their spooks would have compiled quite a dossier.

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 8:12 pm

Funny how many characters here come out wildly shooting the messengers of topics that the West’s Enemies would rather we ignore.

You are an ignorant idiot and you don’t know what you are talking about.

COVID, nor any vaccine, are a type of genetic *precision WMD*.

As for “the jabs!” being unsafe, Novavax, Sputnik and Covaxin have excellent safety records.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 8:14 pm

Areff.
You mentioned radical land clearing by the USAF in Vietman.
The F-111 had TFR – Terrain Following Radar.
Which on occasions turned into TFR – Tree Felling Radar.
The other thing the F-111 was world class at was hemorrhaging fuel.
I think the Commonwealth are still paying out claims for the poor bastards who had to get in the tanks and pick out and replace the sealant.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 8:14 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

February 25, 2022 at 8:11 pm

Putin’s best weapon against the US would be the release of a dirt file on the political elites.

FFS, stop complaining!

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 8:15 pm

Winston Smith says:
February 25, 2022 at 7:23 pm
Wodger:

After a similar experience recently, I’ve concluded that the sooner pharmacists are replaced by robots the better.

I’ve been using that pharmacy for nearly 14 years now.
No more – go online, I don’t have to argue with them about my scripts and his authoritarianism.
“I can only supply what is on the script.”
“I think you have enough of them already so you can’t have them.”
I don’t argue with people, I just don’t go back. Arguing with someone on a power trip is useless. That’s their game and they can play it all by themselves.
______________________

That would be nice, however an allergy treatment that works better and without the side effects of the off the self versions (and at half the price), comes with this when you try to buy it online –

“IMPORTANT NOTICE:
PLEASE READ THE CONDITIONS BELOW AND CHECK THE BOX TO ENABLE PURCHASE OF THIS PRODUCT.

Pharmacist Only Medicine
This product is a Pharmacist Only Medicine and requires pharmacist advice before we can dispatch this product. You must first place the order and then contact our pharmacists within 48 hours on 1300 bastards. The pharmacist will determine if this product is appropriate for you and if so, approve the order. In the event that you do not do this, the product will be deleted from your order and the balance of your order will be dispatched. This is not required if you have a doctor’s prescription.

I agree with the terms and conditions of ordering this product”

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 8:16 pm

Putin’s best weapon against the US would be the release of a dirt file on the political elites.
There’s no doubt their spooks would have compiled quite a dossier.

that would be great but just imagine how great the legacy meja’s spinning against it would be.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 8:17 pm

they would try to bury it- I can’t image it being on Tom Elliot’s arvo sow

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 8:19 pm

arvo show sorry

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:20 pm

I didn’t single you out.

But do keep up the bad job of propaganda.

You are as incompetent as Grigory at dissembling. Your entire post was meant to have a go. And the fact you had to screech this back at me tells me I was right over the target.

It’s like you’re trying to deny the bombing of London because there were no Nazi airports in the UK while in the same breath saying British Nazi didn’t hurt Brits.

What sort of Nuffiness is this? You tried to defend a statement that non-Russian ‘International’ Communists were controlling Communism from outside Soviet Russia, while your source correctly cited the Comintern (all those ‘International Communists’) as being controlled by Soviet Russia.

Care to try again? We’ll put training wheels on the goalposts this time to make it a bit easier for you.

Where’s the real Faulty when you need him? This replacement is substandard.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
February 25, 2022 8:23 pm

Gez you are right. The Vichy knew they were for the chop one the Germans were booted.
I can’t remember the book now but one of the most effective and ruthless Milice commanders had originally tried to join a resistance group but was turned down because he was a violent thug.
Hung at the end of the war from memory
https://greatworldwar2.tumblr.com/post/635651621644320768/milice-the-milice-française-french-militia

Tom
Tom
February 25, 2022 8:23 pm

I’ve been watching Ukraine coverage on Fox News for eight hours+.

Like Hitler, I think Vlad has overestimated his army’s ability and underestimated the resistance of the Ukrainians.

Most interesting snippet of the day, from a young Ukrainian female patriot on the ground in Lviv, the uni town, is that US crowd funding site Patreon is blocking fundraising by civilian supporters of the Ukraine military.

Silicon Valley and all its billionaires can’t suddenly change their spots. They are fascist scum.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 25, 2022 8:23 pm

You’d think they’d learn after the F-111 fiasco, trying to make one basic airframe be a fleet defence fighter/interceptor and a low level strike aircraft but no, the F-35 is a close support/strike/conventional takeoff/landing, carrier capable, V/STOL fighter.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:25 pm

Funny how many characters here come out wildly shooting the messengers of topics that the West’s Enemies would rather we ignore.

I think I was calling for the confiscation of cheating dice from the wrong player, Dot.

SRR rolls so many natural 20s and Critical Successes on her Nuff-Nuff Checks every session, I swear she’s gone and clumsily Sharpie’d ’20’ in messy script over each die face.

I dare not enter her Magical [Thinking] Realm…

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 25, 2022 8:28 pm

But it was conceived as a fighter-bomber

A carrier capable one at that.
The upside that bit of Strange foolishness was Grumman’s biggest cat.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 8:28 pm

Putin’s best weapon against the US would be the release of a dirt file on the political elites.

Why?
All Putin wants is Security Guarantees.
Whatever fairytales the American public choose to believe isn’t any concern of his.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 8:29 pm

srrsays:
February 25, 2022 at 8:04 pm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1326447/

https://futurism.com/the-byte/bioweapons-kill-people-specific-dna

Others say the concerns are exaggerated. “Trying to find a weapon that affects quite a few of one ethnic group and none of another ethnic group is just not going to happen,” says David Goldstein, who studies population genetics at University College London. “Because all groups are quite similar you will never get something that is highly selective. The best you would probably do is something that kills 20% of one group and 28% of another.”

A cline is a gradient of distribution, not an identifier of an ethnic group. The biggest threat from GE is not ethnic cleansing it is the destruction of everything from crops to plastics by creating bugs and fungi. That has been done. All that is required is one organism that can degrade a key material and then release it. The problem is that once it is released there is a risk it will spread everywhere.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 8:29 pm

I think the Commonwealth are still paying out claims for the poor bastards who had to get in the tanks and pick out and replace the sealant.

I’ve heard the rather bitter claim made that the Government is spending more money on studies and reports, then on compensating those who got into those tanks – they’ll all have to die, sometime!

areff
areff
February 25, 2022 8:31 pm

Dead right, Sancho.

McNamara arrived from Ford assuming he could treat the Pentagon like a Detroit production line: OK a new model based on economies of use. Where he was euchred was in not grasping that the services’ brass were seasoned campaigners in corridor warfare, hated each others’ guts and jealously guarded their share of the defence budget with an unwavering eye on getting more of it.

The Navy insisted on all sorts of changes, notably a super-big radar dish in that pointy nose (which is why it’s pointy). This made the plane wide, so the pilots got to sit side by side in a slower plane. Having slipped in all its refinements, the Nacy then said the beast was worthless and managed to get its contract killed. The Poms, Canadians, Marines all bailed, leaving poor, stupid Australia to take delivery of a plane conceived as raining destruction on Indonesia but which lacked the legs to get there.

Such was and is the spite between the Navy and USAF that, at a memorable defence Committee hearing, congressmen learned that the two budget items they were considering were essentially the same plane — just that the rival services refused to call it the same thing.

As to being a capable plane in its latter years, ask Col Gaddafi about that one.

Reagan sent 11 to bomb Tripoli, of which only six (maybe seven) arrived from England and one of those was shot down.

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 8:32 pm

Eyriesays:
February 25, 2022 at 8:23 pm
You’d think they’d learn after the F-111 fiasco, trying to make one basic airframe be a fleet defence fighter/interceptor and a low level strike aircraft but no, the F-35 is a close support/strike/conventional takeoff/landing, carrier capable, V/STOL fighter.

The USN needs a modern version of the Tomcat. The F 35 can never fulfil that role, not fast enough, doesn’t carry enough weapons, too short on station time. The Tomcat was specifically designed for fleet defense and with China now having very long range stand off anti-ship missiles a very wide picket line in the air is very important for fleet defense.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 8:33 pm

Why?
All Putin wants is Security Guarantees.
Whatever fairytales the American public choose to believe isn’t any concern of his.

You’ve put your unwitting finger on it Ed.
Why?
Because he can.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 8:34 pm

Like Hitler, I think Vlad has overestimated his army’s ability

Irrelevant.
The Red Army was poised to overwhelm Europe, so they didn’t have much of a choice.

and underestimated the resistance of the Ukrainians.

Were you asleep for 8 hours?
The Ukrainian Army is surrendering and the Russians are allowing them safe passage out.

cohenite
February 25, 2022 8:35 pm

Most interesting snippet of the day, from a young Ukrainian female patriot on the ground in Lviv, the uni town, is that US crowd funding site Patreon is blocking fundraising by civilian supporters of the Ukraine military.

Bastards, who owns patreon? Regardless, I don’t think anyone should advocate targeted assassinations.

areff
areff
February 25, 2022 8:35 pm

the F-35 is a close support/strike/conventional takeoff/landing, carrier capable, V/STOL fighter

Eyrie: What’s even funnier is that the F-18 was chosen over the F-16 for its two engines, said to be essential at the time for operating over water.

How many engines does our latest gold-plated hangar queen F-35 boast? Why, just one.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 8:36 pm

McNamara arrived from Ford assuming he could treat the Pentagon like a Detroit production line:

I’ve always thought that was McNamara’s legacy – the armed forces could be run like a Detroit production line.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:37 pm

It’s a shame that the TSR2 was cancelled- That was a supersonic strike aircraft that had promise.

Killed by idiot mandarins who thought that missiles would do all the work of air attack and defence forever…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 8:40 pm

Ten denies claims of bullying by reporter Tegan George at its Canberra bureau
….
Network Ten has denied bullying claims by political reporter Tegan George and described many of her allegations as “vague and embarrassing and liable to be struck out

Oh, OK.
What sort of bullying?

George claimed in her legal action that from about February 2020 van Onselen “regularly had informal coffee meetings outside the office with other Network Ten journalists but did not with Ms George”.

Right.
Now, I am no fan of PVO, but give me a fucking break.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 8:40 pm

You’ve put your unwitting finger on it Ed.

No, my comment was so basic, even you could understand it.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:41 pm

The USN needs a modern version of the Tomcat… The Tomcat was specifically designed for fleet defense and with China now having very long range stand off anti-ship missiles a very wide picket line in the air is very important for fleet defense.

Given that Boeing is still developing the F-15X platform into a Gen 4.5 semi-stealth fighter, I have little doubt that Lockheed (or whomever absorbed Grumman, if they do not still exist) could re-engineer the platform into something cutting-edge.

Or the US Navy develops Boeing’s Loyal Wingman into a loitering missile truck. Controllable from an F35 or E2.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 8:41 pm

I’ve been watching Ukraine coverage on Fox News for eight hours+.

Junkie. 😀

Like Hitler, I think Vlad has overestimated his army’s ability and underestimated the resistance of the Ukrainians.

Redstate has this:

Report: Russia Fails to Reach Objectives for First Day Amid Brave Ukrainian Defense (24 Feb, via Lucianne)

The Russian invasion of Ukraine isn’t going as easily as I think Vladimir Putin thought it would go.

As we noted earlier, they are facing some tough fighting from the Ukrainians as well as thousands of protesters in Russia who have come out against the war. That’s quite something, given the oppressive state of Russia and how they would face immediate retribution. Yet, protesters have come out anyway.

Ukraine fought back to recapture an airport the Russians had taken. So, Russia isn’t going to be able to do what they wanted because they haven’t met the goals they were trying to meet by now – which was to seize all the airports.

You can see the UK Ministry of Defense make this observation, and note that the Ukrainians have halted the advance of Russians in at least one place.

No idea about the veracity of any of this, although the UK Ministry of Defence is probably as good a source as is around right now (ie. not very).

If as some reports are saying that the 10,000 Ukrainian grannies who are grabbing their free AKs plus ammo and going after the invaders Vlad may have a problem on his hands. Ukrainians aren’t the most well-hinged people on the planet. Probably with cause.

I have not been keeping an eye on the Ukraine invasion, as I figured the reporting was going to be nearly worthless in this current era of garbage news. Instead I’ve been readin of the 9th and 7th Divs assaulting Lae. Two fun things I learned tonight so far: that “furphies” are derived from a WW1 Western Front toilet, and the first ever Australian combat paratroop drop was by the 2/4 Field Regiment, of the artillery.

Tom
Tom
February 25, 2022 8:42 pm

The fat-arsed German ruling class talked Biden out of sanctions that would work because they didn’t want to upset Vlad too much as he could cut off their oil and gas pipe from Russian via Ukraine.

Germany is addicted to Russian energy.

Once again, Germany is bludging off NATO and the US because it refuses to pay the 2% of GDP it promised.

Fuck the Chermans. Let Vlad cut off the gas pipe, bankrupt the joint and take over as the Chermans beg for their lives and their luxury AUDIs.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:42 pm

The Ukrainian Army is surrendering and the Russians are allowing them safe passage out.

Source, Grigory? Because even if it’s partially true, you are such an untrustworthy soul that everything must be verified with you.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:44 pm

Let Vlad cut off the gas pipe, bankrupt the joint and take over as the Chermans beg for their lives and their luxury AUDIs.

I’m waiting for a bunch of pissed-off Ukrainians to do it to everyone.

No sweet, sweet gas royalties for anyone, if you want to use us as a football…

#Opa!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 25, 2022 8:44 pm

Right.
Now, I am no fan of PVO, but give me a fucking break.

Not so sure.
The modern millennial male journalist has all the habits of bitchy girls.
Exclusion techniques are nasty girl 101.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 8:45 pm

It’s a shame that the TSR2 was cancelled- That was a supersonic strike aircraft that had promise.

I thought the rationale behind the scrapping of TSR2 was that it would be cheaper to order the F 111?

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 25, 2022 8:46 pm

How many engines does our latest gold-plated hangar queen F-35 boast? Why, just one.
That’s because of the V/STOL version which can’t hover or likely even takeoff on one of two engines and two engines gives you twice the chance of losing the aircraft if one fails. The Air Force and Navy CTOL versions should have had two engines. The marines really just needed a Super Harrier 3 which could have been fitted with the cockpit and combat systems of the other two versions.

custard
custard
February 25, 2022 8:48 pm

Best comment of the week so far.

Which is why he & his trusted business associated of many decades, from around the world, could be less hamstrung with Trump as an “Ex” President of The United States.

If it was always clear to me that ‘The Swamp’ was global and couldn’t be drained without blowing in the swamp creatures bolt holes around the world, I’m sure clever people such as & Trump & his mates would have figured a way to deal with it long before ever saying he would run for POTUS.

Trump didn’t only beat Team Hillary to become POTUS, he beat the world’s most dangerous & deadly cabals including Clinton/Biden & Co’s Chinese, Russian, Ukrainian, Middle Eastern, Central & South American partners in crimes against humanity & all of THEIR Western Media/Propaganda, and he is still kicking.

I don’t see any fat lady yet.

H/T srr

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 8:49 pm

Once again, Germany is bludging off NATO and the US because it refuses to pay the 2% of GDP it promised.

I’ll tell you a secret, Tom:
The Germans don’t want NATO.
So, who does want NATO?
The US, of course, so why shouldn’t they pay all the bills?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 8:52 pm

‘Sex addict’ Bob Hawke exposed between covers of new bio

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Bob Hawke was a sex addict who had multiple affairs while prime minister, often facilitated by personal staff and federal police at The Lodge, and known about by ministers and public servants.

Hawke’s longest affair was with his personal assistant Jean Sinclair, who began working for him at the ACTU in 1973 and was on his parliamentary and prime ministerial staff. Sinclair died after a long battle with cancer in 1991.

“While he was prime minister, there were about four women he was having serious affairs with,” acknowledged his widow, Blanche d’Alpuget. Her affair with Hawke began in 1976, was on and off, and resumed in 1988. “Getting in to see him at The Lodge was (often) the only place that we could meet,” she said. They married in 1995.

Ms d’Alpuget, Hawke’s former union colleagues, ministers, staff and public servants, and his children Susan Pieters-Hawke and ­Stephen Hawke, have all spoken candidly about his infidelity and drinking in a new biography titled Bob Hawke: Demons and Destiny, published next week.

Former tourism minister John Brown recalled Hawke constantly pursuing women, including some he had just met. “When he was prime minister, he was terribly ­indiscreet, and how he got away with it I don’t know,” Mr Brown said. “He was the keenest chaser of women I’ve ever seen.”

The head of Hawke’s VIP protection service, Roger Martindale, recalled that officers drove Hawke to meet lovers to ensure his safety and not to draw attention. “We were all adults,” Mr Martindale explained. “He never asked anything of us. He just expected ­discretion from everybody.”

The book, which draws on newly discovered archival documents and interviews with more than 100 people, including Hawke himself, shows that Hawke was a deeply flawed person but also a very significant prime minister who was respected by Cold War leaders, and who left a vast policy and political legacy.

Accounts of Hawke’s infamous womanising and serial adultery were not widely reported and only sanitised versions of it, without naming his lovers, have previously made it into print. But Hawke was never faithful to just one woman and often treated his first wife, Hazel, appallingly badly.

Hawke’s principal private secretary, Graham Evans, was alert to the risk of the prime minister being compromised by his infidelity, and raised it with Sir Geoffrey Yeend, the head of the Prime Minister’s Department. Steps were taken to ensure there was no risk to the government’s integrity.

Ms d’Alpuget agreed that Hawke had a sex addiction. “Sex will calm people down, and he was a very highly strung man,” she said. “At the end of a day of intense activity, he somehow had to let off steam, as it were, and there’s nothing like a roll in the hay or five to do that.”

In the 1960s and 70s, some women threw themselves at Hawke, mesmerised by his charisma and power, while others phoned or wrote letters offering to have sex. Women were procured by party, union and business figures. Hawke also flatly propositioned women for sex. When rejected, he would often lash out with invective.

Hazel Hawke knew about Sinclair and Ms d’Alpuget, and probably others. “The affairs were, in a way, the least of the worries,” her friend Wendy McCarthy said.

“The alcohol mattered more than the affairs. She would not have been happy about it but there was nothing she could do about it. She was resigned to it.”

Firing up a cigar on a VIP flight surrounded by political advisers and media during the 1983 federal election campaign.

Hawke was also a highly functioning alcoholic. His drinking in the 60s and 70s was legendary. He would often go on a bender and sometimes had to dry out for days to recover. He got alcohol poisoning and nearly drank himself to death several times before going off the booze prior to entering parliament in 1980.

Ralph Willis, who worked at the ACTU and was later a minister, said Hawke became loud and abusive when drunk. “When (Hawke) got a bit pissed he could become fairly abrasive and fairly unpleasant,” he said. “How he never got his lights punched out a few times I wouldn’t know.”

Bill Kelty, former ACTU secretary, said Hawke often drank 20 beers in a session. “Bob would drink, he would f..k somebody, and he would gamble until 2.30am or 3.30am in the morning – and then when the ACTU executive started at 9am in the morning, he was the second one there and he was fine,” he recalled.

In interviews for the biography, Hawke acknowledged his unrestrained infidelity, excessive drinking and emotional outbursts which had a terrible impact on his first marriage and on his children.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:54 pm

The Germans don’t want NATO

Really, Grigory?

So who have they been hiding behind since 1949?

Drop the Pro-Russian Glowie schtick. You have enough trouble with your own Gypsum-fuelled wrongologist act without trying anything else on…

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 8:56 pm

Ed Casesays:
February 25, 2022 at 8:28 pm
Putin’s best weapon against the US would be the release of a dirt file on the political elites.

Why?
All Putin wants is Security Guarantees.
Whatever fairytales the American public choose to believe isn’t any concern of his.

Dick seems a little nervous at the prospect. Surely a spook like him would already know the contents of the files?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 8:56 pm

Firing up a cigar on a VIP flight surrounded by political advisers and media during the 1983 federal election campaign.

Smoking was banned on VIP aircraft at that time….

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 8:58 pm

Dick seems a little nervous at the prospect. Surely a spook like him would already know the contents of the files?

Being a Labor shill and paid stooge, his bosses are probably deathly concerned that anything that might implicate Rub-n-Tug as being anything less than the upright, rugged Tory-fighter he proclaims himself to be, in the runup to an Election Year…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:00 pm

The modern millennial male journalist has all the habits of bitchy girls.
Exclusion techniques are nasty girl 101.

Possibly.
But not being invited for coffee?
Is that … actionable?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 9:02 pm

But not being invited for coffee?
Is that … actionable?

Depends if the inviter was handsome, rich, 6 feet tall, funny and had no kids from a previous relationship…

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:07 pm

The Germans don’t want NATO

Oh?
Can you explain, then, why Merkel cracked the shits with Trump when he said the US wasn’t going to pick up the tab anymore?

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 9:07 pm

Zulu

I’ve heard the rather bitter claim made that the Government is spending more money on studies and reports, then on compensating those who got into those tanks – they’ll all have to die, sometime!

That might have been true in the 1980s/early 1990s, but knowing at least one of those involved later, I doubt that their is much validity to that claim now.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 9:07 pm

Thanks ZK2A – I could never stand that little PoS. I remember when he was deposed by the undertaking- record unemployment and all he could talk about was him and his family. Loathsome disgusting grub.

Razey
Razey
February 25, 2022 9:08 pm

PAUL JOSEPH WATSON: World War Woke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHXuHpaEwgE

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 9:08 pm

So the LugenPresse is going to dripfeed details about Hawke’s private life in the hope that some Incels will think:

Hey, that Bob Hawke sounds like a cool guy, I’ma gonna go out and vote Labor.

and not:

Hey, this guy was a total shitbag, what Party did he represent?

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 9:08 pm

Two fun things I learned tonight so far: that “furphies” are derived from a WW1 Western Front toilet.

Don’t think this is correct. Australian WWI water carts were made by Furphy Bros. Foundry in Shepparton. The water cart operators were the purveyors of BS stories. Furphies.

https://furphyfoundry.com.au/the-origins-of-telling-a-furphy/

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 9:09 pm

Firing up a cigar on a VIP flight surrounded by political advisers and media during the 1983 federal election campaign.

Hawkie’s partiality for Havana cigars didn’t suit his image of “The little Aussie battler” so there was a ban on any photographs being published of him with a cigar…..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 9:12 pm

So the LugenPresse is going to dripfeed details about Hawke’s private life in the hope that some Incels will think:

Did you bother to read the article? Naah, didn’t think so.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 9:12 pm

rosie says:
February 25, 2022 at 7:50 pm

“Yeah but forget all that, Putin’s doing surgical strikes against legitimate military targets that have killed far less people than Cuomo killed, let alone all the others killed by their Western Govts Covid Protocols & Jab Mandates”

For someone who was furious, furious, at me for my failure to show conspicuous compassion towards a lady with a dislocated shoulder, that doesn’t sound like much concern for the war dead in the Ukraine, just as long as it’s ‘surgical’ ‘legitimate military targets’ and *far less people* right?

rosie wants people to believe
Western Govts going to war against their own people for refusing to submit Govt mandated, dangerous & deadly drugging for life,
is BETTER than,
a foreign Govt going to war against those who also blow the life out of over 16,000 of their own people, and conducting that war with absolute minimum of casualties.

rosie doesn’t believe it.
It’s just the twisted thinking she has to sell to keep selling acceptance of those deadly drugs she’s personally invested in.

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 9:12 pm

Hawkie’s partiality for Havana cigars didn’t suit his image of “The little Aussie battler” so there was a ban on any photographs being published of him with a cigar…..

germalists were partisan hacks then too

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 9:12 pm

Can you explain, then, why Merkel cracked the shits with Trump when he said the US wasn’t going to pick up the tab anymore?

What’s to explain?
Trump never meant anything he said and the US will never stop picking up the tab.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 25, 2022 9:12 pm

I see there’s been an excessive amount of Edding this evening.

Perhaps he would like to explain why he said Beria was an engineer, when he clearly was no such thing.

Also, a reminder. This was Ed a few weeks back:

‘I tell a lotta lies, pal.’

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 9:15 pm

areff

As to being a capable plane in its latter years, ask Col Gaddafi about that one.

Reagan sent 11 to bomb Tripoli, of which only six (maybe seven) arrived from England and one of those was shot down.

But that was enough to make Gadaffi go very quiet until Shrillary decided to try her Julius Caesar impersonation on him.

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 25, 2022 9:17 pm

The Red Army has entered chat.

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 9:18 pm

rickw, my pal who is building the Pietenpol Air Camper has scored a newly re-built Ford Model A engine for $1400 which he’ll put in it. As it isn’t a go places , just a fly around the local area early in the morning or late in the afternoon, aircraft, this will make it much more authentic and likely worth more.
The conversion of the Model A engine to aero engine appears to be no big deal. Outstanding!

So cool!!!

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 9:18 pm

Bruce of N

Not quite a toilet, but a water cart around which troops gatgered to fill their water bottles and gossip.

From Wiki

A furphy is Australian slang for an erroneous or improbable story that is claimed to be factual. Furphies are supposedly ‘heard’ from reputable sources, sometimes secondhand or thirdhand, and widely believed until discounted. The word is said to derive from water carts designed and made by a company established by John Furphy of J. Furphy & Sons of Shepparton, Victoria. The steel and cast iron tanks were first made in the 1880s and were used on farms and by stock agents.[1] Many Furphy water carts were used to take water to Australian Army personnel during World War I in Australia, Europe and the Middle East.[1]

IIRC, cast into the circular tank ends was a slogan on the lines of “Until our good is better, and our better best”.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 9:19 pm

Areff:

The F-111 represents everything wrong with materiel procurement, then and now: revolving door transfers from Pentagon to contractor; a plane that was supposed to do everything; ordering “off plan”; stupendous contractor corruption. I could go on, but that pedigree is its hallmark, not that it was revised and obliged to take up new roles for which it was never designed nor intended.

I heartily agree. Defence spending throughout the West is politically corrupt, managed by shonks and only saved by the engineers who are able to remake silk purses made out of sows ears into reliable equipment fit for use.
Witness the submarine debacle.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 9:19 pm

germalists were partisan hacks then too

When Hawke moved into the Lodge, after his election victory of 1983, he took his butler with him. There was a ban on mentioning the existence of said butler…

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 9:22 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
February 25, 2022 at 8:45 pm
It’s a shame that the TSR2 was cancelled- That was a supersonic strike aircraft that had promise.

I thought the rationale behind the scrapping of TSR2 was that it would be cheaper to order the F 111?

Mountbatten (then still an active admiral) was claimed to have turned up at a meeting in the MoD with a model of the TSR-2 and one of the Buccaneer, and asked “Do you want one of these or eight of the Buccaneer”, that being the relative costs.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 9:25 pm

🙂

Eyrie says:
February 25, 2022 at 8:03 pm

Musician Chris Rea’s old man was Italian, seems they weren’t uncommon in post war Britain.

When I was a kid in Essex, just north of the Thames, the local icecream suppliers were the Bastiani ice cream company.

It’s like a Pavlovian response that I can’t hear or see the word Essex without this man coming to mind, and being grateful he does –

David Essex Rock On
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ppeRMgYOvU

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 9:25 pm

Dick

I’ll tell you a secret, Tom:
The Germans don’t want NATO.
So, who does want NATO?
The US, of course, so why shouldn’t they pay all the bills?

Then original purpose of NATO was said to be to keep the Russians out, the Americans in and the Germans down.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 9:26 pm

Bizarre sanctions.
Not only did the Germans veto kicking the Russians off SWIFT.
But all energy & agriculture transactions are exempted from any sanctions.

I’m old enough to remember when wars started you stopped doing business with them.

Rabz
February 25, 2022 9:26 pm

91.3%* of humans existing on this planet have lost the ability to sensibly govern themselves.

All thanks to the most absurd idiotology to have existed in our** history – collectivism.

*Figure may be higher depending on latest reality developments.

** Tempted to use “their”. I don’t want to be any part of this slow motion goat rodeo clownshow trainwreck …

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 25, 2022 9:28 pm

Forget Libya.
How many Pigs did Biggles Gareth Evans despatch from Amberley for one to breach Tasmania’s air defences and take a photo of a river?

miltonf
miltonf
February 25, 2022 9:28 pm

yes ZK2A- I only heard about the butler a few years ago

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 25, 2022 9:28 pm

Imagine you’re some 18 old Ukrainian being told you have to fight the Russians.
All while the billionaires who caused this in the first place are still making bank (actually more because of what energy prices have done).
What a war.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 9:29 pm

rickw

Snap on furphy.

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 9:31 pm

Lathe of the week for anyone in northern NSW. Looks rough but my guess is would scrub up very well, good box full of accessories:

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/tuggerah/other-tools-diy/lathe-vintage/1290951954

Rabz
February 25, 2022 9:32 pm

When Hawke moved into the Lodge, he took his butler with him

From the recently released ASIO transcripts:

“err Carruthers, grab us another two slabs of Southwark, I tells ya and several boxes of Chateau Cardboard for li’l ol Blanche!” 🙂

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 9:34 pm

“Until our good is better, and our better best”.

Good better best. Never let it rest. Until you good is better and your better is best! (IIRC!)

Jorge
Jorge
February 25, 2022 9:39 pm

Last night, wake up 2 am, check the market. Everything on a red downslope to hell. No surprises there. Back to dreamland.
4 am, another check. WTF. Everything on broad sunlit uplands.
This is insane.

Frank
Frank
February 25, 2022 9:40 pm

Perhaps he would like to explain why he said Beria was an engineer, when he clearly was no such thing.

Stirling individual, not at all into sexual predation either. Hopefully he keeps on using LugenPresse, it is sweet the way he does that. All learned and shit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 9:41 pm

Don’t think this is correct. Australian WWI water carts were made by Furphy Bros. Foundry in Shepparton. The water cart operators were the purveyors of BS stories. Furphies.

Rick – Here, see footnote p328. “Sanitary carts”.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 25, 2022 9:44 pm

feelthebernsays:
February 25, 2022 at 9:26 pm

Wow I am older than you but remember same. Tin foil types will be running riot with this…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 9:44 pm

rosie wants people to believe –
Western Govts going to war against their own people for refusing to submit Govt mandated, dangerous & deadly drugging for life,
is BETTER than,
a foreign Govt going to war against those who also blow the life out of over 16,000 of their own people, and conducting that war with absolute minimum of casualties.

Errr… No, Faulty 2.0.

Rosie is merely calling you a hypocrite.

Once again, that famed Glass Jaw of yours proves to be your undoing.

It’s just the twisted thinking she has to sell to keep selling acceptance of those deadly drugs she’s personally invested in.

Got some actual proof other than a few ‘creatively interpreted’ blockquotes and other Nuffy magic to support that slander, Faulty 2.0?

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 9:44 pm

Awww owe ahhh ugggh Blanche, uhhh you’re going to have to wake the general up with some diplomacy darl…..agggh uhhh too many West Coast Coolers with Mr Laurie Daley last night…not that I understand Rugby League ehhhh ahhh I do feel sorry ah for those working classes (starts sobbing) heroes like Benny Elias, poor little Benny…ahhhh by 1992, no Balmain hooker shall awwww ow ahhh ugggh be unable to score from behind.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 9:46 pm

SOP for propagandists; a selection of characters bitch about what they say someone says, not what someone actually says.

It’s so old hat it only works on kids & simpletons.

Which also tells you what they think of their audience.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 9:48 pm

And for BJ, in 1970 our house was served by pan men. Amazing guys. So hence my interpretation of what a “sanitary cart” might be. Would not be surprised if the same bunch provided both services, but that the more palatable became the official source of the word. Soldiers, though, tend not to hold back like that. 😀

Bluey
Bluey
February 25, 2022 9:49 pm

feelthebernsays:
February 25, 2022 at 9:26 pm
Bizarre sanctions.
Not only did the Germans veto kicking the Russians off SWIFT.
But all energy & agriculture transactions are exempted from any sanctions.

I’m old enough to remember when wars started you stopped doing business with them.

Like the recent bank account freezes in Canada, locking nations out of SWIFT will only promote alternatives. As has already happened with China and Russia developing an alternative. Entirely predictable once the USA started down that path.
Given the effort Putin has put into sanction proofing Russia I don’t think they’re going to be much other than theater.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 25, 2022 9:53 pm

Hawkie’s partiality for Havana cigars

His one good point.

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 9:56 pm

ZK2A:

I’ve heard the rather bitter claim made that the Government is spending more money on studies and reports, then on compensating those who got into those tanks – they’ll all have to die, sometime!

I’d believe that – any bureaucracy will take any funds from anywhere for its own growth. The aim of the organisation is not the ‘mission objective’ eternal growth at any cost is.
It’s Australia written large.
The parasite eventually kills the host, then moves on to the next host.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 9:56 pm

Given the effort Putin has put into sanction proofing Russia I don’t think they’re going to be much other than theater.

Russia loses markets, America takes those markets, that’s what it’s about at the moment.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 25, 2022 10:01 pm

Special Ed using the George Costanza excuse “a lie is not a lie if you believe it”

Old bloke
Old bloke
February 25, 2022 10:07 pm

Rex Anger says:
February 25, 2022 at 8:10 pm

Yeah. The Loading Gauge is not really practical to widen now, due to the built-up nature of the city. Particularly once you get to Claisebrook and McIver, where you have some 4 tracks on a very tight curve into a confined space. Also, the nature and frequency of the PTA’s services is something that makes external access and deconfliction painful. It is better to keep the two separated, with limited pathways extended to external services that do not come all the way into town

Sounds like a cop-out to me Rex, I’m sure its do-able. I’ll give you this weekend to get it done, you can only work at night though but you should have it finished by Monday morning.

Sydney has the advantage of having a separate set of platforms for their inter-city and inter-state services apart from the suburban services, it’s a pity that the WA railway planners didn’t do likewise all those years ago.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 25, 2022 10:08 pm

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
February 25, 2022 at 9:48 pm
And for BJ, in 1970 our house was served by pan men. Amazing guys. So hence my interpretation of what a “sanitary cart” might be. Would not be surprised if the same bunch provided both services, but that the more palatable became the official source of the word. Soldiers, though, tend not to hold back like that. ?

Army camps in 1914 might have had pan services, but once in the field, pits seem more probable. Gossip around a water cart provides more opportunities than perched along a row of pans, or squatting over a pit.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 10:08 pm

Watching the SBS version of MacBeth
Polansky’s was better so far.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:09 pm

“Because all groups are quite similar you will never get something that is highly selective. The best you would probably do is something that kills 20% of one group and 28% of another.”

Doesn’t have to be that highly selective to devastate targeted groups.

0.03ish % of contaminated, killed, was enough to bring the world to it’s knees.

You get even a 5% hit rate against recognisable groups, with something new, and what the hell wouldn’t their leaders agree to, to ‘avoid worse’.

Also, no matter an individual’s experience or expertise in this field, it is an old, broad & vast field with seriously competing interests sitting on their own developments with ruthless security.

Frank
Frank
February 25, 2022 10:09 pm

If Iggy Pop came back as a seven foot skinny chick with a fondness for spangly codpieces he might look like this. If he did he would still be infinitely more appealing than the other notoriously skinny one. Note the url contains the directory /digital-cougar-assets/.

Meanwhile, in other extreme makeover news. That Woman’s Weekly photoshoot of Albo and his new squeeze has him turning into an eighties era yuppie preppy type. This can’t sit well with his professed love of fighting Tories.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 10:11 pm

Which also tells you what they think of their audience.

I cannot tell anybody anything about you that your behaviour on this site does not already display in big, flashing neon lights, Faulty 2.0.

I take it that ‘propagandist’ is your throwaway insult of choice, like Bird with his ‘N****r’ and ‘J*w?’

Tom
Tom
February 25, 2022 10:12 pm

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!
John Kerry: “I hope Mr Putin will stay on track with what we need to do in respect of the climate.”

Bwahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Vlad has just started a hot war trying to wipe a country the size of Texas off the map and Kerry wants him to worry about the distraction he’s causing to mentally ill leftards about their mental illness about climate variability.

Dumbest piece of human rubbish ever born.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 10:13 pm

Army camps in 1914 might have had pan services, but once in the field, pits seem more probable.

BJ – On a static WW1 trenchline I thought that would not be fortuitous. Sanitation would be a severe issue in such situation, so I assumed “sanitary carts” were doing what they did for us in 1970, although those guys had a truck not a cart.

It makes sense that the guys were shooting the breeze whilst waiting in line to use the thunderbox.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 10:14 pm

If we conscripted those between 16 and 60 to fight in the Baltics the Cat would be far more entertaining.
Just putting it out there.

cohenite
February 25, 2022 10:16 pm

Trump never meant anything he said and the US will never stop picking up the tab.

Tell that to Soleimani donut. You’re such a pissant.

Indolent
Indolent
February 25, 2022 10:19 pm
Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 10:19 pm

0.03ish % of contaminated, killed, was enough to bring the world to it’s knees.

You get even a 5% hit rate against recognisable groups, with something new, and what the hell wouldn’t their leaders agree to, to ‘avoid worse’.

THEY’RE AFTER OUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!!!1!

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 10:19 pm

Soleimani was a spook and an Iranian and Israeli asset you stooge! Now just get over this and prepare for a victory so epic that Biden is going to get 70% of the votes in 2024.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 10:21 pm

John Kerry: “I hope Mr Putin will stay on track with what we need to do in respect of the climate.”

It’s a warning.
Yeah, we let you take back the Donbass, don’t go Off Script on all the other bullshit, and we might let you keep it.

cohenite
February 25, 2022 10:22 pm

Knock off the vodka Dot and go to bed.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 10:22 pm

Bruce of Newcastle.
The brasco was not a place to linger in the trenches. Have a think about it.
Field hygiene was taken seriously, apart from the French of course.
Army publications had great chunks devoted to the subject prior to World War 1.
I have never shot a gun, as Dot put it.
Been on both sides of people firing them. Fired a few myself.
Where do you think the expression “ don’t get caught with your pants down” comes from?

JD
JD
February 25, 2022 10:22 pm

Why the West is lost! Sydney Opera House plus ABC present:

White feminism is an ideology that seeks individual power over community wellbeing. Join author Koa Beck for a look at the racism embedded in much of the movement’s history, and learn how we can all make feminism truly inclusive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d1Y9YlUPno

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 25, 2022 10:22 pm

If Hawkie was running for PM today even what we know about him now I’d still vote for him cause he made us feel good about ourselves, he didn’t lecture us and the Liars weren’t a bunch of nancyboys. Does anyone remember how useless the Libs Federally really were. If only John Elliot hadn’t been nobbled things might have been different. Maybe its just me, liking strong characters. I could relate to both of them.

Dot
Dot
February 25, 2022 10:23 pm

INTERESTS!
THE CABAL!
BANKSTERS!
INTERNATIONALISTS!
DARK FORCES!
DEFINITELY NOT JEWS!

For those out there demanding a translation of the posts made by srr and runny bum.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 10:23 pm

If we conscripted those between 16 and 60 to fight in the Baltics the Cat would be far more entertaining.

You’d also find there was next to nobody here.

And anyway, I’d insist you came too- I demand tactical advice and old man wisdom, and every wheelbarrow needs a gunner… 😛

#So, Ner!

Winston Smith
February 25, 2022 10:26 pm

It’s not that people on the Right don’t dislike Putin – it’s that after the last couple of years, they hate their own governments more.
There are lots of us who are delighted at the prospect of Putin releasing the KGB files on the likes of Biden, Obama, Bush, Harris, et al.
Do it Putin! Do it!

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:26 pm

Starblazer @Starblazer
· 5m
Hospitals getting paid as much as $471,000 for each COVID patient
[short video, interview about of payment breakdown]
https://gettr.com/post/pwq99l7b8f

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 10:26 pm

Yuendumu: Kumanjayi Walker a ‘low threat when cop fired fatal shot’
Amos Aikman
Northern Correspondent
@amosaikman
5:56PM February 25, 2022

Kumanjayi Walker was “likely a low threat” to Northern Territory policemen Zachary Rolfe and Adam Eberl at the time he was ­fatally shot, a jury has been told.

The Aboriginal teenager had inflicted a 3mm puncture to Constable Rolfe’s shoulder using a pair of scissors. Constable Rolfe shot Walker once, and Sergeant Eberl wrestled the 19-year-old to the ground.

By the time Constable Rolfe fired again 2.6 seconds later, Walker was lying on his side on a mattress with his right arm – the hand of which contained the scissors – likely “pinned” beneath his body and the weight of Sergeant Eberl, experts say.

Body-worn video and other evidence presented to the NT ­Supreme Court shows Constable Rolfe stepped forward, placed the muzzle of his Glock near ­Walker’s chest and discharged two rounds in quick succession. Prosecutors say those were murderous.

The jury has heard NT police officers are taught they can produce their firearm in response to an “edged weapon”. The purpose is to “incapacitate” an offender and “eliminate the threat”. They are also taught that the use of force must be minimised.

Crown prosecutors are eager to persuade the jury that by the time Constable Rolfe fired shots two and three, Walker was not dangerous. Sergeant Eberl testified Walker continued resisting after being shot and that he never got control of Walker’s right arm.

Biomechanics expert Andrew McIntosh told the jury the position of Walker’s body meant it was very unlikely he could inflict serious harm with his right arm, regardless of whether or not it was fully controlled.

“Once Eberl and Walker separated from Rolfe, the threat to Rolfe diminished,” he wrote in one of three reports. “Walker was likely a low threat to Eberl at the time of the second and third gunshots. Walker’s right arm was likely pinned under his body.”

Dr McIntosh explained that was because “if you’re using a weapon in your hand, and your arm is pinned in that way, then it’s very difficult to develop force with the weapon that you have because you can’t … exert a force onto someone else.”

He agreed with defence barrister David Edwardson QC that scissors such as those Walker used “have the potential to be ­lethal” and that his own perception – based on reconstructions from body-worn video and other evidence – might not be the same Constable Rolfe’s and Sergeant Eberl’s during the November 2019 incident.

Forensic pathologist Paull Botterill told the jury the “overwhelming majority of stab and ­incised wounds are not fatal”. In one study of a large prison ­population, the fatality rate from all ­recorded stab wounds was 3 per cent.

However, he said some areas of the body were “more susceptible … to sustaining an injury that may have the potential to result in death”. Mr Edwardson, who has been building a case that Constable Rolfe’s injuries could have been more serious, seized on the point.

“Is penetration of the skin a precondition to a lethal injury?” he asked. Dr Botterill said it was not. He also said that in extraordinary circumstances, death could occur from a stab wound as shallow as 1cm. The jury has heard the scissors had a 5cm blade that penetrated about halfway during ­experiments on pork belly.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 10:26 pm

Trump never said anything about assassinating Solemeini.
Probably because he only found out about it while watching TV.
The guy is a clown, no different to Biden and the soon to be Ex President of Ukraina.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
February 25, 2022 10:28 pm

Boambee John,
The term “Furphy” comes from the manufacturer of water tank carts used by the Australian Army in World War 1.
But I am agog to hear more about field sanitation and tactical poohs from others.
Surely someone served time as the blowfly?
Where is Bob Numbers?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 10:28 pm

INTERESTS!
THE CABAL!
BANKSTERS!
INTERNATIONALISTS!
DARK FORCES!

FREE DELIVERED LARGE PIZZAS AFTER 6PM ON WEEKENDS*

*Pineapple $1 extra

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 10:29 pm

A excerpt from the chapter I’m reading…

The diarist of the 2/6th Field Company wrote a terse and vivid description of the work on the vital Nadzab airfield:

Work begins at 0700—an all-in go. Paratroops, sappers, pioneers and natives all cutting grass flat out. The cut grass is burned on the strip. At 0940 a Cub plane with Colonel Woodbury lands. The first three transport planes land at 1100 hours before the strip is quite completely cut, and nearly run down many of the motley throng. At 1400 planes start landing and continue until 1700—about 40 planes come in. Clouds of black dust everywhere and all concerned look like “Boongs”. The C.R.E. arrives. . . . Still no sign of the enemy. One transport plane overruns end of strip and smashes a wheel on the stumps.

So the 6th passed at Nadzab in a swirl of black dust.

Boongs? Snowflakes would wilt if forced to read this wonderful stuff. Then they could get a derelict airfield going in a day, now we can barely find our arse with both hands.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 10:29 pm

In one study of a large prison ­population, the fatality rate from all ­recorded stab wounds was 3 per cent.

Yeah, because most people in prisons don’t want to serve an extra 18 years for Murder.
Is this Prosecution serious or in the tank?

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:30 pm

Ian56a @Ian56a
·53m
Paul Craig Roberts: Here Is the Full Text of Putin’s Speech This Morning, Feb 24, 2022.
Read it so that you understand the situation. You will not get a word of truth from the mouths of Western politicians and presstitutes.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/here-is-the-full-text-of-putins-speech-this-morning-feb-24-2022/

Putin’s speech is an accurate summary of what has happened in the last 30 years with Western Wars of Aggression, NATO expansion, and the situation we have now.

Biden’s refusal to discuss Russia’s legitimate security concerns over the US First Strike Nuclear Missile Silos in Romania & Poland built by Obama, further NATO expansion, and the escalation of hostilities by Ukraine’s Neo Nazis against the separatists in Donbass, led Putin to act.

https://gettr.com/post/pwr2iz5247

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
February 25, 2022 10:32 pm

Trump never said anything about assassinating Solemeini.
Probably because he only found out about it while watching TV.

Trust Grigory to say that a fellow who had to personally authorise such a strike, only found out about it after the fact. And from a third party.

Less ‘tard out of you tonight, please Grigory. We’ve already got SRR going off like a jack-in-a-box…

John H.
John H.
February 25, 2022 10:33 pm

srrsays:
February 25, 2022 at 10:09 pm
“Because all groups are quite similar you will never get something that is highly selective. The best you would probably do is something that kills 20% of one group and 28% of another.”

Doesn’t have to be that highly selective to devastate targeted groups.

0.03ish % of contaminated, killed, was enough to bring the world to it’s knees.

You get even a 5% hit rate against recognisable groups, with something new, and what the hell wouldn’t their leaders agree to, to ‘avoid worse’.

Also, no matter an individual’s experience or expertise in this field, it is an old, broad & vast field with seriously competing interests sitting on their own developments with ruthless security.

I don’t take seriously claims that X is possible unless someone can point out to me the necessary mechanics of achieving X. It is too easy to dream up endless X’s. In this context, unless someone can specify the relevant target genes and indicate why that works against a particular ethnic group that someone is just dreaming stuff up. srr for me that’s too simple to be believable.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 25, 2022 10:35 pm

The Aboriginal teenager had inflicted a 3mm puncture to Constable Rolfe’s shoulder using a pair of scissors.

3 mm?

Constable Rolfe shot Walker once, and Sergeant Eberl wrestled the 19-year-old to the ground.

Then Rolfe shot him in the guts twice at point blank range.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:37 pm

TommyRobinson1
@TommyRobinson1
·
31m
Horse face dictator Jacinda Ardern given a warm welcome by parents during school visit
https://gettr.com/post/pwr5uv0b62

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 10:38 pm

The brasco was not a place to linger in the trenches. Have a think about it.

MA – Nor the water cart. In fact much more the water cart.

One has to use the latrine but doesn’t the water cart, since you can send a detail back to fill all the water bottles. So the logical place to swap tall tales is the well-situated dunny in rear of the trench. From which the sanitary cartmen take the pan from once the shelling has stopped.

Rabz
February 25, 2022 10:38 pm

frank, you f*ck – trigger warnings, thanks – FFS. 🙁

rickw
rickw
February 25, 2022 10:38 pm

Analysis of Russia/Ukrainian situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rO7VB9rTvE&t=12s

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 25, 2022 10:39 pm

Don’t think this is correct. Australian WWI water carts were made by Furphy Bros. Foundry in Shepparton. The water cart operators were the purveyors of BS stories. Furphies.

I believe the naval equivalent is the ‘scuttlebutt’

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 25, 2022 10:42 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 25, 2022 10:42 pm

Then Rolfe shot him in the guts twice at point blank range.

Never fear, Constable Rolfe. Grogarly, Q.C., is on the case.

srr
srr
February 25, 2022 10:43 pm

Ian56a @Ian56a
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Paul Craig Roberts: Update on the Ukrainian situation.
The results of Obama and Neocon Victoria Nuland’s 2014 Coup using Neo Nazis to install an extremist regime in Kiev and start a Civil War in Ukraine are coming to a head
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/02/24/upda

“The Europeans should have thought many times before they enabled Washington’s war crimes in Serbia and the Middle East.
European governments are such stupid idiots that it did not occur to them to wonder what happens if Russia responds to sanctions by cutting off the gas supply. Germany´s industry would be cut off from the power grid.
It is difficult to imagine people so totally stupid and self-defeating as the ones Western peoples trust with leadership.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 25, 2022 10:44 pm

That’s the official version Flyingduk.
As I’ve been citing, it may’ve been…sanitized, over the years.

  1. People who were dudded by QANTARSE selling tickets on flights that had already been cancelled get $225 for domestic, $450…

  2. If I had my time again Roger, I would study Indian history.A huge market to tap into!!! Even with half of them…

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