Open Thread – Tues 12 April 2022


On the barricades on the Rue Soufflot, Horace Vernet, 1848/9

2,156 responses to “Open Thread – Tues 12 April 2022”

  1. pete of perth Avatar
    pete of perth

    Uno

  2. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Podium! (Maybe)

  3. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Bugger. No podium.

  4. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    The Chinese Communist Party’s hell on earth in Shanghai is coming to America. Tucker Carlson Tonight.

  5. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Tom says: April 12, 2022 at 4:00 am

    Haha. John Spooner.

    This cartoon does not make sense.
    Grace Tame badmouthing Scomo in her comedy gig would have been funnier than Spooner.
    Spooner isn’t just not funny, it plain does not even make sense.
    What have I missed?

  6. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    This cartoon does not make sense.

    Salvatore, you obviously aren’t getting the saturation KFC TV advertising in FNQ. The humour is intended for the millions down south being bombarded by the KFC ads.

  7. Carpe Jugulum Avatar
    Carpe Jugulum

    Oh

    Hello

  8. Anchor What Avatar
    Anchor What

    Lefty voter to Albo: “Shut up and take my money”.

  9. Toryhere Avatar
    Toryhere

    As the first person to come up with the phrase “Sinistra delnda est”, I am very glad to see it as a strapline on this site.

  10. rugbyskier Avatar
    rugbyskier

    Anchor What, that was very funny.

  11. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Grader

  12. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Covid is in da house…

  13. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    In other news, why did Howard “forgive” Albo’s slip?

    What a missed opportunity… as a lot of people fondly remember him…

  14. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    In other news, why did Howard “forgive” Albo’s slip?

    what was that?

  15. custard Avatar
    custard

    Top 20!

  16. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Milton,
    when Albo stuffed up yesterday on the most basic economic indicators (not knowing Cash Rate or unemployment figure) they asked Howard in Perth what he thought about it…

    He said he “wouldn’t worry about it too much.”

    I would’ve slammed him as it goes to the heart of Albo not knowing the very key facts he’s supposedly campaigning on…

  17. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    John Howard? What a rat he’s turned out to be. A total phony. Thanks Lysander.

  18. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Random iso thoughts continue…

    Why is China sending arms to Serbia???

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/2022/04/11/china-delivers-anti-aircraft-missiles-to-serbia/

  19. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Lefty voter to Albo: “Shut up and take my money”.

    That’s going straight to the pool room! 😛

  20. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Salvatore, you obviously aren’t getting the saturation KFC TV advertising

    Hehe. Thanks Tom, those who don’t switch on FTA don’t get any TV advertising, saturation or otherwise.

    Since found on Youtube (eventually) a couple of ads for Kentucky Friend Chicken containing the line from Albo’s speech balloon.

    I think I sorta grasp what the cartoon is trying to convey.

    Crikey – anybody being bombarded with that noise pollution & who does not switch off their TV badly needs mental health intervention.

  21. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    John Howard? What a rat he’s turned out to be.

    IIRC Howard was once caught out by the same question in a TV interview & copped heaps over it.

    Though IIRC Howard was off the mark by a quarter of a percent, saying 6.25% instead of 6.5%
    & saying it categorically.

    Howard’s error was 1/26 of the cash rate.
    Albanese’s was greater than 1/3
    Worse for Albanese: He hadn’t a clue what the rate was & was having a stab in the dark. (“I think“)

    Howard still should have his bum kicked. He’s lost a fair bit of his “Elder of the Party” cred over this.

  22. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Howard fully outed himself what he said a Trump presidency ‘made him tremble’.

  23. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Why is China sending arms to Serbia???

    Because Slav, send them toys and shits gunna happen! / Scorpo.

  24. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Crikey – anybody being bombarded with that noise pollution & who does not switch off their TV badly needs mental health intervention.

    It is sometimes amusing with the sound off. Makes more sense anyway.

  25. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Albo has done it again. Had no idea who is the Human Rights Commissioner.
    Did not recognise her name.

    This is nothing to me. However it is a deadly serious “tell” for a bloke campaigning for the Green/Left vote, where if they had to pick one, would choose the HRC & abolish the ADF.

  26. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    I loved the stories about Pablo congealing into an impenetable lump – although how sweepings from the floor do that is a mystery.

    Not mentioned much here, but Chris Bailey, singer of The Saints, died the other day.

    I got to know him briefly in the late 70s when they were in Sydney. Nice guy, razor wit. An Irish romantic, managed to make a living all his life as a musician/composer which is not easy.

    Composed and performed by him, Ghost Ships.

    The Alpha Male boss of Radio Birdman Denis Tek dissed him as a drunken Irishman, which he was, but the real issue was that this apparently woozy chap from the pub had a passion and talent for music which was to last for the rest of his life. Tek went on to do other things, Chris Bailey stuck with music.

    As I said at The Other Place, I got to know him for a bit before they emigrated.

    One of the few genuinely nice people I ever met in that industry.

    Ghost Ships.

  27. Botswana O'Hooligan Avatar
    Botswana O’Hooligan

    John Howard? What a rat he’s turned out to be.
    He is an old man now at age 82 and should stay out of the limelight, but as do many old people in positions of power he tried to hang in there as PM when he was past it and got royally “done” by Maxine who was also a flash in the pan.

  28. mizaris Avatar
    mizaris

    oooweeeee top 30 on the front page!!

  29. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Hmm, I wonder if this teacher would have been terminated if she’d attended a BLM protest or a Free Palestine protest?

    “Mudgee Public School teacher sacked over lockdown protest amid staffing shortage

    A Western NSW teacher with more than 18-years serving the Education Department was sacked after attending a peaceful lockdown protest. See the latest here.

    The NSW Education Department has been criticised after a veteran Western NSW teacher was sacked for attending a “peaceful, silent protest” against NSW Government Covid lockdowns last year — resulting in her being placed on a do-not-employ list.

    The teacher, who has been an educator for more than 18 years, was investigated and fired by the Education Department’s Director of Child Protection after she attended a “peaceful silent protest” against Covid lockdowns at Robertson Park, Mudgee in August last year.

    In a letter issued on January 26, the teacher — who did not wish to be named — was informed that her employment as a temporary teacher at Mudgee Public School had been terminated.

    “(The teacher) was accompanied by another departmental employee from the same school,” a letter by Director of Child Protection Sarah Parry said. “The alleged conduct was in contravention of the NSW Public Health Orders and of departmental and school policies.

    “(The teacher) has since had her contract at the school terminated.””

    The useless Sarah Mitchell, NSW Minister for Education, who like Matt Kean, belongs in the Greens.

  30. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Joanna, great memories.

    I knew Bailey’s family came from Ireland – the north, I think.

    Was he a Catholic? I ask because I always fancied he was wearing a rosary in the Stranded clip.

  31. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Others thought highly enough of Chris Bailey’s talents to cover one of his better ones.

  32. Lysander Avatar
    Lysander

    Let’s take some time to look at what Gillon McLachlan gave us….

  33. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Please explain, not seeing the link to Chris Bailey.

  34. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    johannasays:

    April 12, 2022 at 1:38 pm

    Please explain, not seeing the link to Chris Bailey.

    Mine?

  35. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Yes, he was a Catholic.
    Thanks, Google.

  36. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I think his third name shows up as Mannix!
    Having three names and that as your third might be a hint.

  37. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Crikey – anybody being bombarded with that noise pollution & who does not switch off their TV badly needs mental health intervention.

    Not at all, Sal. Of all the fast food out there, KFC is my favourite. I try to grab a three-piece box with chips and a can of Pepsi ($12) once a month. Like the Coke recipe, they built an empire out of a few sweet spices coating fast-food chook pieces — 10 out of 10 for innovation!

  38. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Mmm.

    Queensland yesterday recorded the fourth-highest number of triple-0 calls for an ambulance on record. Health Minister Yvette D’Ath can’t say what’s causing it.

    Last week, Telstra in both Queensland and NSW have had to initiate a recorded message protocol informing people of long delays.

    Ambulance Commissioner Craig Emery said the ambulance service saw an additional 400 code ones, the highest level of emergency.

    The government is still gathering information to find out why there was a spike in calls yesterday, Ms D’Ath said.

    “Sometimes you can’t explain why those things happen,” she said.

  39. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Hopefully that Youtube link worked Johanna.
    It was a Bruce Springsteen cover of Bailey’s “Just Like Fire Would”.

  40. duncanm Avatar
    duncanm

    This cartoon does not make sense.

    As Tom says – it refers to the KFC ads.

    A bit like saying ‘hey look over there, a gorilla!’ when an awkward question is asked.

  41. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    John Howard is increasingly the befuddled pensioner on the campaign trail. Yesterday’s man – and that was yesterday.

  42. johanna Avatar
    johanna

    Didn’t work, but thanks.

    It’s not often that someone manages to be passionate and uncompromising about their art while being a decent human being.

    Cheerio, Chris Bailey.

  43. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “The government is still gathering information to find out why there was a spike in calls yesterday, Ms D’Ath said.”

    Also commonly spelt De Ath.

  44. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Let’s take some time to look at what Gillon McLachlan gave us….

    The best thing you can say about Gillon McPolo-Pony is that he didn’t completely fuck up the franchise, other than alienating footy fans with all the AFL’s incessant ALP-Greens talking points, while agreeing to the sudden, previously undiscovered demand by wymmymses for their own AFL-endorsed Lezzo League that’s a financial basket case and is so uncompetitive no-one wants to go to games or watch it on TV.

  45. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Trump’s endorsement of wacko Dr Oz not is going down well in MAGA country.
    I think the moment is over. Even his rally orations – such as they are – sound silly. He uses that irritating down-talking inflection as he reads the auto-cue which is meant to be somber but comes across as lackadaisical.

    ———-
    DeSantis/Paul

  46. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    On I-stop in Mazdas. Mine never works, I think the Mazda mechanic explained if you have a usb cable in use to charge the phone the I stop turns off, so I always have the usb plugged in.

  47. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Man and woman in Port Pirie both guilty of sickening neglect of baby son.

    Lady judge let’s her walk.

    Judge Kudelka sentenced [him] to four years and seven months in prison, with a non-parole period of two years and four months backdated to October last year so that he could engage in rehabilitation programs in the community.

    But Judge Kudelka spared [her] from jail, suspending her sentence of three years and nine months.

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zachary Rolfe stood trial in-part due to expert evidence in $100K report, documents reveal

    EXCLUSIVE
    Matt Cunningham
    Darwin Bureau Chief
    Kristin Shorten
    Investigative Journalist
    @itsKShort
    An hour ago April 12, 2022
    6 Comments

    Constable Zachary Rolfe was committed to stand trial in the Northern Territory Supreme Court based in-part on the expert evidence of a Crown witness paid almost $100,000 to produce a 12-page report supporting its murder charge.

    The Australian can now reveal the reasons Judge John Birch provided when committing Constable Rolfe to stand trial over the shooting death of Indigenous man Kumanjayi Walker after the lifting of a suppression order.

    Following a three-day committal hearing at Alice Springs in September 2020 Judge Birch said the matter would proceed to trial based in-part on the evidence of the prosecution’s subject matter expert Geoffrey Alpert who was later dropped from the case.

    This comes after The Australian on Monday revealed that the NT Police had awarded a contract worth almost $100,000 to the American criminologist to provide a 12-page report about whether the second and third shots fired by Constable Rolfe were legally justified.

    Emails obtained by The Australian also revealed Professor Alpert repeatedly altered his report following discussions with detectives investigating Walker’s fatal shooting at the remote outback community of Yuendumu on November 9, 2019.

    When delivering his decision to commit the case to trial, Judge Birch specifically referenced the evidence of Professor Alpert and NT Police use-of-force expert Detective Senior Sergeant Andrew Barram.

    Det-Sgt Barram had told the court during committal that police training involved options including firing two shots in rapid succession – a double tap – and firing continuously until the threat had ceased.

    “Detective Sergeant Barram’s evidence is that the first shot discharged by the defendant was justified in the circumstances,” Judge Birch said in his ruling which was, at the time, prohibited from publication.

    “The shots fired by the defendant did not incapacitate the deceased’s right arm, which is not visible on the body-worn video, but is more likely than not pinned under the deceased’s body.”

    Professor Alpert, from the University of South Carolina, gave evidence via video link at Constable Rolfe’s committal that the first shot the young cop fired was justified, but that the second and third shots were not.

    “If the first and second shots were fired as a double-tap, he (Prof Alpert) would accept that as a reasonable response in the circumstances,” Judge Birch said.

    “Therefore, it’s been submitted the defendant did nothing other than comply with the training given to him by the Northern Territory Police Force.”

    However, Crown Prosecutor Philip Strickland SC argued that it was an essential part of Constable Rolfe’s training to reassess the need for further lethal force after the first shot was fired.

    “I accept the submission is open for a jury to find there were several options available to the defendant, other than shots two and three,” Judge Birch said.

    “Detective Sergeant Barram and Dr Alpert detailed those.

    “Dr Alpert would accept if two shots were fired as a double-tap at the time the deceased was standing and the defendant was stabbed, he would (support) those discharges.”

    Constable Rolfe fired shots two and three after his Immediate Response Team partner Adam Eberl wrestled Walker to the ground.

    “Dr Alpert clearly differentiates between the first shot and the second and third shots,” Judge Birch said.

    “Based on Dr Alpert’s evidence, I am not prepared to reject his opinion and I am not satisfied a jury, properly instructed, would do so either.

    “Similarly, Detective Sergeant Barram’s evidence is reliable on the issue and I’m not satisfied to reject it.

    “The jury is also able to accept his view in relation to those shots, police training and a number of other matters in which he gave evidence on.”

    In making his decision, Judge Birch also considered the professor’s evidence about the police body-worn video footage of the shooting.

    “I do accept the submission that the body-worn video must be considered in real time, but noting the evidence of Dr McIntosh and Dr Alpert, it doesn’t lose its relevance when viewed frame by frame, despite its shortcomings identified by those experts,” he concluded.

    But without explanation, the prosecution dropped Professor Alpert before Constable Rolfe’s trial started and relied primarily on the expertise of Det-Sgt Barram to execute its case.

    Constable Rolfe was last month found not guilty of murder and the back-up charges of manslaughter and engaging in a violent act causing death.

    A fortnight ago the NT’s Independent Commissioner Against Corruption Michael Riches announced an investigation into “allegations of improper conduct” related to Constable Rolfe being charged with murder just four days after the shooting.

    Prior to this NT Chief Minister Michael Gunner said he did not believe an independent inquiry was necessary because the case had been subjected to a committal hearing before Constable Rolfe stood trial.

    “Police have a process to make sure that their investigation stacks up, then the prosecution also has a responsibility to only take anything forward that they think has a reasonable chance at success,” he said.

    “And then there’s a stage again at the courts where a case has to genuinely stack up.”

    He subsequently issued a statement saying that he “fully supports” the ICAC decision to investigate the process that led to Const Rolfe being charged.

    Constable Rolfe’s defence barrister David Edwardson QC said he was “relieved” about the ICAC’s decision to investigate.

    “In my view it is warranted and appropriate,” he said.

    “Hopefully the question of whether there was or wasn’t political interference will now be resolved one way or the other.”

  49. Winston Smith Avatar

    Cassie:

    I voted NO to SSM and I don’t regret it for a moment because you know what….I was right.

    Me too.

  50. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    In other news, why did Howard “forgive” Albo’s slip?

    Howard priest?
    Albo confession?

  51. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Of all the fast food out there, KFC is my favourite

    I don’t disagree with you Tom – though I’d place Big Rooster (slightly) ahead of Kentucky Friend Chicken, with daylight third.
    Just I’m not interested in receiving incoming advertising, in any format.
    If I’m ever in a town which has a Kentucky Fried Chicken place, I certainly don’t need advertising to make me pop around & get some.
    (Actually you’ve got me inspired & I’m sorta able to smell the stuff now, I’ll have to shake the piggy bank to see if I can afford the fuel….)

  52. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “DeSantis/Paul”

    Yep…or…DeSantis/Haley

    But definitely DeSantis. He’ll win in a landslide.

  53. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Haley is swamp.

  54. C.L. Avatar
    C.L.

    Alan Jones guested on Please Explain, if you missed it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKDtKTE_SXA

  55. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Judge Kudelka accepted that Coad was a victim of “violent, coercive and controlling behaviour” at the hands of her husband, even though Capper had not been charged with those offences.

  56. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    “The government is still gathering information to find out why there was a spike in calls yesterday, Ms D’Ath said.”

    come back in 6 months

  57. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    GreyRanga says: April 12, 2022 at 7:05 am

    Kiwi blokes still think the Canning Stock Route is an annual event.

    Heh. Neat joke.
    Though the pronunciations are not the same.
    “Stock Route” rhymes with out, clout, shout, doubt.

  58. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    Yep…or…DeSantis/Haley

    Haley is a neocon shill and thankfully not a natural born citizen.

  59. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    Those British terrorists are at it again

    A homegrown terror suspect accused of murdering veteran MP Sir David Amess said he wanted to kill the politician to ‘help Muslims by stopping him from voting again’ after he backed the bombing of Syria, a court today heard.

    Ali Harbi Ali told jurors at the Old Bailey he wanted to ‘make hijrah’, to travel and fight in support of the terrorist organisation Islamic State, but he found it too difficult to get there.

  60. dover0beach Avatar

    Mollie
    @MZHemingway
    ·
    22m
    Ballot trafficking is illegal in Georgia … and yet …

    Quote Tweet
    Liz Harrington
    @realLizUSA
    · 10h
    THE MOST SECURE ELECTION IN HISTORY

    Here’s a woman stuffing the ballot box in broad daylight in Gwinnett County, Georgia in the November 2020 Election

    Fortifying.

  61. win Avatar

    The fix is on to get Dutton. Ali France ( lab) is sending out instructions for postal voting.

  62. calli Avatar
    calli

    First!

    *Gollum voice*

    Esssssspresssssso

  63. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “Here’s a woman stuffing the ballot box in broad daylight in Gwinnett County, Georgia in the November 2020 Election”

    It’s possible to obtain publicly available anonymised mobile phone “ping” data, that allows you to track a single phone (without knowing the number or anything else) over pretty much any period you want. In Wisconsin, some mob got several trillion of these records covering the period where “vote by mail” was allowed. During that time there were several thousand records of people going to drop box locations, an average 26 times each (data can be accurate to a few cm, apparently). They even have corroborating CCTV images, sufficient to be sure this was actually ballot “drops” and they were the same person. I don’t have any information on how many ballots may have been “dropped” at any particular time/place.
    And this was only a single city, not the entire state.
    Ballot “harvesting” – where a 3rd party collects ballots and drops them off – is illegal in Wisconsin.
    Apparently, charges are being referred to the DA by the Wisconsin State Senate regarding these events.

  64. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Did the airport drop off, no bedlam observed.
    My turn in four weeks.

  65. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “Esssssspresssssso”

    My precious Esssssspresssssso and Rissssstresssssso.
    Mean, nasty lurkerers and instant coffee – yuk!
    We hates them, we does.

  66. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Judge Kudelka

    Isn’t there a lefty cartoonist of that name?

  67. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    Blame Putin

    As a result, Britain stands to lose perhaps as many as 3000 of its approximately 10,000 fish-and-chips shops, according to Crook, who describes the situation as the industry’s biggest crisis since such stores first opened in the 1860s.

  68. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    The US voting “system” puts most African systems to shame. It really should have UN observers and thumb ink pads. Luckily the US “justice system” gives it a tick.

  69. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    Heh. Neat joke.
    Though the pronunciations are not the same.
    “Stock Route” rhymes with out, clout, shout, doubt.

    Nope. As a West Aussie I have only ever heard or used “Route” as in “root”. “Route” as in “clout” is a classic Americanism.

  70. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    There are various ways to apply a coffee enema.
    With Pablo, you just look at the jar.

  71. Zyconoclast Avatar
    Zyconoclast

    Trans flight attendants: It’s time more airlines recognised trans crew members

    When “Qantana” and her entourage of flight attendants sashayed onto the Sydney Cricket Ground during the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade in March, she wore a sparkling, sequined version of the familiar Qantas uniform that is designed by Paris-based Australian Martin Grant.

    The male flight attendants wore silver hotpants.

    I wished for a fleeting moment that all Qantas flight crews were similarly attired. It would certainly make long-haul flights less boring.

  72. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    Oh yes…bring it on……Ms Keneally has Covid and if she’s got a sore throat, this won’t make her throat feel any better….

    “Local independents Dai Le, Frank Carbone to take the fight to Kristina Keneally in Fowler

    A highly successful local political independent team will campaign against Anthony Albanese’s hand-picked candidate for the Western Sydney seat of Fowler, former NSW Premier and Labor Senator, Kristina Keneally.

    Fairfield city mayor, Frank Carbone, and deputy mayor, Dai Le, who got 90 per cent of the western Sydney local government area vote last December, have decided to campaign against Senator Keneally who lives in Sydney’s salubrious northern beaches areas.

    Ms Le, a Vietnamese refugee who has lived and worked in Fairfield all her life in Australia, will be the independent candidate supported in the campaign by Mr Carbone.

    Ms Le told The Australian on Tuesday: “I have been humbled by my opportunity to represent the local people so far and want to fight for locals here is Western Sydney.”

    “It would be wrong of me to go to the rich northern suburbs and try and get elected there and it is the same for Kristina Keneally to try and run here in Western Sydney,” she said.

    The revelation came as Scott Morrison campaigned in the neighbouring Labor seat of Parramatta where another outside candidate, former Kevin Rudd adviser, Andrew Charlton, was parachuted into the candidacy from the Eastern suburbs.

    The Prime Minister spruiked the local ties for the Liberal candidate, Maria Kovacic, and said: “She’s from Western Sydney, she’s run businesses in Western Sydney. She’s raised her family here in Western Sydney.”

    In Fowler, the retiring Labor MP, Chris Hayes, wanted a local woman to replace him and supported lawyer Tu Le but she was dumped by the ALP national executive and replaced by Senator Keneally who lives on Scotland Island in Pittwater in northern Sydney and has promised to live in the western suburbs electorate if she is elected.

    Mr Carbone and Ms Le ran an independent team for the Fairfield City council elections and won 10 of the 13 spots.

    Labor Party MPs have appealed to Mr Carbone, a former Labor member, not to run amid speculation the two local politicians would pair for the federal election on May 21.

    Mr Carbone told The Australian he had decided not to run himself because of family reasons but, he said, he would be campaigning fully for Ms Le as part of a strategy they have been working on for months.

    “We will run a big campaign, we have videos ready, posters and local campaigners because we believe it is an insult to the people of the west to have an outsider forced on them,” he said.

    Ms Le said that during the Covid-19 lockdowns Western Sydney had been treated as outcasts and “demonised by the affluent and privileged suburbs of Sydney”.

    “I want to represent local people and as an independent get federal funds directed to this area,” she said.

    Based on local government and state government elections Mr Carbone thinks Ms Le can get 30 per cent of the primary vote, and given the number of other independents and the Liberal candidate, Senator Keneally will find it difficult to reach a primary vote which will give her victory.”

    Anything, anything to terminate Nobody’s Girl.

  73. Winston Smith Avatar

    Bespoke:

    One spoon of coffee two spoons of sugar add boiling water and milk, Go!

    NATO Standard.

  74. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Beyonce is right Haley is a piece of shit.

  75. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “One spoon of coffee two spoons of sugar add boiling water and milk, Go!”

    Heathen.
    Firstly, you should never adulterate good coffee with sugar – but since you are using instant, this of course does not apply.
    Instant coffee is for emergency use ONLY – like beer in cans, or wine in screw top bottles.

  76. calli Avatar
    calli

    Ms Keneally has Covid

    Heh. Covid has Keneally. Could prove fatal.

    A light at the end of the tunnel?

    Seriously though, so does my doc. Meant to see him today, now he has to look at my arm via the telephone. I wonder what the diagnosis will be.

    Meanwhile, our local MP, Merryl Swanson (ALP), is campaigning already – negative territory of course. Apparently the reason medical services are so thin on the ground is…drumroll…cuts to Medicare.

    I hope she’s squished by the elephant in the room.

  77. JC Avatar

    Yesterday, Brucie Nobel was babbling on about vaccines. I’ve frequently noticed when he goes “complex” – that is using complex medical jargon- it usually means there’s something hidden there that requires some further investigation. Consequently, I took his comment and sent it indirectly to the virologist I know through a pal. This is what came back.

    Hi Jc, that I agree with him on the following issues: it is a relatively new vaccine platform and there are many unknowns and caveats that also make me uncomfortable. There certainly are possible off-target effects with the current formulation but it is fair to say that the majority of the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the intended antigen presenting cells with good humeral and cellular anti-SARS-CoV-2 immunity. I have not seen many reports of endarteritis or vasculitis following vaccination and like myocarditis it is much more common following SARS-CoV-2 infection itself. I am not convinced that there is evidence for the other doomsday off-target effects described and that the risk of mRNA vaccines itself is lower than getting infected without being vaccinated. I also agree that at this stage I would rather get subunit influenza vaccine. Seeing that he hasn’t yet had a mRNA COVID vaccine I would still recommend that he gets the Novavax vaccine or AstraZeneca if he hasn’t already.

    In other words, there’s some nonsense doomsday stuff contained in the metallurgical biologist’s comment from yesterday. Just trying to keep it real. 🙂

  78. dover0beach Avatar

    Now that there is substantial evidence of the missile being used in Kramatorsk was UKR, both trajectory and the serial number, the UKR spin machine hs pivoted and is talking about a possible ‘chemical attack’ in Mariupol. These people are unbelievable.

  79. JC Avatar

    Dover

    In war, truth is lost for a time. I don’t get it why there’s any surprise that either side is bullshitting as they’re both bullshitting.

  80. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    How dare a qualified virologist have a different opinion to self declared virologists!

  81. Mak Siccar Avatar
    Mak Siccar

    Bruce in WA says:
    April 12, 2022 at 2:59 pm
    Heh. Neat joke.
    Though the pronunciations are not the same.
    “Stock Route” rhymes with out, clout, shout, doubt.
    Nope. As a West Aussie I have only ever heard or used “Route” as in “root”. “Route” as in “clout” is a classic Americanism.

    Definitely pronounced ‘root’. I had the very great pleasure of traversing this magnificent part of our country (no longer a nation) some six years ago. Not for the faint-hearted because of the innumerable cooooooorrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaagggggggggaaaaaatttttiiiiioooonnnnssssssss! (Corrugations). spectacular and harsh.

  82. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Peter Khalil in Wills, in addition to promising real action on climate change is promising real action on manufacturing jobs.
    Really.

  83. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “A light at the end of the tunnel?”

    Oncoming train?

  84. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Heh. Neat joke.
    Though the pronunciations are not the same.
    “Stock Route” rhymes with out, clout, shout, doubt.

    Only in the USA.

    In Oz, ‘route’ rhymes with shoot.

  85. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    I’d say JC’s virologist is full of shit.

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/covid-is-becoming-increasingly-vaccine?s=r

    From the official UK data.

  86. Winston Smith Avatar

    Cassie:

    “(The teacher) was accompanied by another departmental employee from the same school,” a letter by Director of Child Protection Sarah Parry said. “The alleged conduct was in contravention of the NSW Public Health Orders and of departmental and school policies.

    Don’t toe the line, March to the beat of your own drum, live up to your own conscience and waych what happens to you.
    Our Fascist State is coming and you will be crushed.

  87. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “In Oz, ‘route’ rhymes with shoot.”

    Except in IT, where “root” is the typical administrative user name, and “route” (rhymes with “clout”) is how data is sent between computers (routed this way, not that way).
    </trivia>

  88. JC Avatar

    Eminently qualified, Rosie. His life’s work is the study and research into viruses that could potentially lead to pandemics. By hey, needs it , right?

    I think that every time something suspicious comes up from either The Aviator or the metallurgical biologist I going get it vetted and post the return volley. You know from a real scientist in the field.

  89. calli Avatar
    calli

    Oncoming train?

    For Omicron it might be. Keneally is considerably more toxic.

  90. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “Keneally is considerably more toxic.”

    And no vax against it.

  91. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    Anything, anything to terminate Nobody’s Girl.

    very appropriate that she comes from Las Vegas- a phony from where phoniness reigns supreme

  92. JC Avatar

    Hallward

    Please explain what you consider to be ” full of shit” as I’ll pass it along and see what comes back as this is in the interest of getting to a better understanding of things. Surely you can’t disagree with such a reasonable approach, right?

    Please put in your own words what you consider to be “shit” and don’t send me to your stupid fucking links again.

  93. Struth Avatar

    How dare a qualified virologist have a different opinion to THE GOVERNMENT!

  94. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    The link to the child abuse case mentioned ‘the children’s room’ so it sounded like other children in the household were neglected. The earlier article does mention them and that the children are apparently out of her custody.
    Hopefully that remainds the case permanently.
    Whatever the court may have decided, obviously the South Australian welfare department didn’t absolve her of responsibility.
    earlier report on the coad capper couple

  95. JC Avatar

    Stuth

    When did you become a Qanon’er? You’ve reached peak Everest now?

  96. Delta A Avatar
    Delta A

    Snap, Mak and Bruce.

    Keep Aussie pronunciations Aussie.

  97. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    Bruce in WA says: April 12, 2022 at 2:59 pm

    Nope. As a West Aussie I have only ever heard or used “Route” as in “root”. “Route” as in “clout” is a classic Americanism.

    Not going to disagree over regional dialects.
    However I’ve only ever heard it pronounced “stock root” by people who’ve not pushed a mob along one. Usually hipsters who’ve discovered landcare without ever having been west of Strathfield.

    (This may be one of the many very serious differences between Kimberley/Pilbara & the rest of cattle country & possible justification for civil war.)

    When I was a kid, old fellers pronounced it “route” as in “shout”**. To these blokes a “root” was the name for the underground part of a tree & they would never have imagined it would later take on the “push-push” meaning.
    Interestingly the same blokes would sometimes say “root” when talking of along which road to drive.
    I never gave it much thought, mostly being amazed by the way their fingers would expertly roll Log Cabin into a tallyho tube, while somehow managing to spill what seemed like half the tobacco onto the pub floor.

    (** even though the schoolteacher told us it is pronounced “root”, though with the caveat that stockmen would say “rout” – which pretty much ended the discussion, coz the only grownups we knew were stockmen.)

  98. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    And up bobs Little Mr Dickie Knee with another one of his zingers.

  99. dover0beach Avatar

    UkraineMaps
    @MapsUkraine
    ·
    1m
    #MARIUPOL

    British mercenary ‘cossackgundi’ has surrendered to the Russian Armed Forces in Mariupol City along with the Ukrainian marines.

    Be interesting to see if there are any Brit SAS or US Delta in Mariupol.

  100. Struth Avatar

    The mental breakdown is complete when someone who believes anything they are told about a boogie monster virus she’s never seen, will be the most obstinate person on earth to believe what she is witnessing with her own eyes.
    Massive increases in deaths from the vaccines.
    Hey mental cases, how many boosters are you going to have?

    Or is it a case of……….Just jab away, o slave masters, but, massas, please don’t make me drink instant coffee!

  101. Struth Avatar

    You’re not the full quid anymore JC.
    Get yourself checked out.

  102. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    The pricks in DC and their miserable pommy running dogs really wanted a war

  103. Winston Smith Avatar

    Bespoke:

    Judge Kudelka accepted that Coad was a victim of “violent, coercive and controlling behaviour” at the hands of her husband, even though Capper had not been charged with those offences.

    In other words, there’s no evidence to support the accusation.
    Sounds about right.

  104. JC Avatar

    Stuth

    In the olden days – that is before the Common Era- Catallaxy used to be a site where views were exchanged and new information was invited . Brucie Nobel put up an assertion yesterday, which for the reasons/concerns I expressed earlier, required some checking. And this is eggsactly what I did. I can’t see how this doesn’t help in furthering knowledge. So far, all I’ve seen is the “full of shit” comment from the censorious slimy limey and your Qanon-like comment. Try at least to explain your position, you inbred toe-rag and the same applies to the Aviator.

  105. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    JCsays:
    April 12, 2022 at 3:39 pm
    Hallward

    Please explain what you consider to be ” full of shit” as I’ll pass it along and see what comes back as this is in the interest of getting to a better understanding of things. Surely you can’t disagree with such a reasonable approach, right?

    Please put in your own words what you consider to be “shit” and don’t send me to your stupid fucking links again.

    Stuff substack. I have as much faith in those as I do in the MSM. Others should have the same attitude. Read the actual report that they linked(x2) and you’ll realise they overlooked some critical data. Look at page 16, explain why the unvaccinated have much higher hospitalisation rates and death rates(Table 4B). Completely destroys the argument of negative efficacy. The other issue to think about is that the unvaccinated which constitute a minority or people typically with a very big axe to grind, are the least likely to report an infection.

    How often must it be stated that wherever possible read the primary material before reading your favourite goto person on a subject? It’s the logical thing to do.

  106. dover0beach Avatar

    In war, truth is lost for a time. I don’t get it why there’s any surprise that either side is bullshitting as they’re both bullshitting.

    At some point, persistently lying is counterproductive even in war. The other thing that our media consistently aids and abets the lies of one side.

  107. Winston Smith Avatar

    Kneel:

    Ballot “harvesting” – where a 3rd party collects ballots and drops them off – is illegal in Wisconsin.
    Apparently, charges are being referred to the DA by the Wisconsin State Senate regarding these events.

    The election was stolen.
    But the citizenry are unable to put their case.
    The Courts, the police, the FBI/CIA, and the media are all in on the theft.
    There is only one way to to beat the swamp.

  108. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Judge Kudelka

    Isn’t there a lefty cartoonist of that name?

    As noisome and tedious as it may be, you do well if you are hauled up in front of Judge Rowe.

    He insists the men be nude, and crams his sentences with no end of clichés that he has himself devised, he makes people in the court where nametags or some token or badge de has divined identifies them best (red swimmers, a Sharks shirt, a crown with a twitter logo etc), but eventually when he finishes summing up he always pronounces Scott Morrison guilty.

  109. JC Avatar

    How often must it be stated that wherever possible read the primary material before reading your favourite goto person on a subject? It’s the logical thing to do.

    John H

    Usually, it’s Karl Denninger for Hallward Hughes.

    Thanks for doing what I refuse to do, which is reading any of the Chief Censor’s links as it’s always simplistic biased bilge.

    (Watch the reaction now. He ignores the counters and in a few hours will be back telling us how he’s Charles Lindbergh and Howard Hughes rolled into one).

  110. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    The pricks in DC and their miserable pommy running dogs really wanted a war

    ficks

  111. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    You’re not the full quid anymore JC.
    Get yourself checked out.

    Yeh JC get yourself checked out. Dr to JC, I’m sorry JC I have to remove 95% of your brain. After the op the Dr is doing cognitive tests, what is your name sir? Ken Worth.

  112. JC Avatar

    At some point, persistently lying is counterproductive even in war. The other thing that our media consistently aids and abets the lies of one side.

    I’m not so sure. You do a decent job of presenting the Russian side so I don’t need to read anything else on that score. 🙂 So it’s coming out, otherwise you wouldn’t be posting it. 🙂

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    1 hour ago
    Renewed calls to lower voting age to 16
    Chloe Whelan
    CHLOE WHELAN
    With the election looming, advocates and academics are renewing calls for the voting age to be lowered to 16. Bills to make the change are up for debate in NSW and the ACT.

    The ACT’s Lowering Voting Age and Increasing Voter Participation Bill, introduced by the Greens, would extend the vote to 16- and 17-year-olds in territory elections. The NSW Greens last month proposed a similar bill, which would allow but not require the teenagers to vote in their state.

    Both bills are yet to be voted on. Last month, a parliamentary inquiry recommended the ACT legislation not be passed, claiming the territory would incur extra costs for keeping a separate electoral roll and processing extra voters each election.

    Advocates for the change, however, claim key issues like climate change and housing affordability necessitate youth voting. They point to findings, such as a 2020 report by the Actuaries Institute, that Australian government funding skews towards older people.

    “Young people today are growing up having to navigate a climate crisis and global conflict, issues in relation to high housing costs in Australia and challenges in the economy,” says Faith Gordon, legal professor at ANU, who penned a submission in favour of the ACT legislation. “They really do have the greatest at stake in relation to the political process and decisions that are being made.”

    As for claims young people are too politically uninformed to vote, advocates say it’s unfair to hold youth to higher standards than the rest of the population.

    “Responsibility and political knowledge are not compulsory criteria for voters over the age of 18,” the ACT Council of Social Services said in their endorsement of the ACT bill. “There is no onus on adult voters to prove such responsibility or knowledge.”

    There is evidence that lowering the voting age would increase political engagement for young people, Professor Gordon claims, noting that in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum, 16- and 17-year-olds turned up in higher numbers than their 18 to 20-year-old peers.

    Scotland is just one of a host of countries, including Switzerland, Austria, parts of Germany and several Latin American countries, that have lowered the voting age. This month, the Scottish government will consider whether to allow 16- and 17-year-olds to run for office.

    If passed, the ACT and NSW bills would be the second time an Australian jurisdiction has lowered the voting age, after the Whitlam government pulled it down from 21 to 18 country-wide.

    Then-opposition leader Bill Shorten added his name to the movement’s list of supporters in 2015, calling on the government to lower the voting age to 16 or 17. Mr Shorten claimed it was unfair to ask 16- and 17-year-olds to pay taxes if they could not vote.

  114. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    How often must it be stated that wherever possible read the primary material before reading your favourite goto person on a subject? It’s the logical thing to do.

    Please.
    It’s not that sort of blog.

  115. Struth Avatar

    The reason you need to get checked out JC, is the position has been clearly explained and backed up with evidence.
    We know what epidemiologists down to basic GP’s are allowed to say to you.
    If they are still working, you take what they say with a grain of salt.

    See dopey, their words don’t match the increasing body count.
    How many jabs are you going to take?

  116. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    What boriquagato actually said which is backed by his figures:
    “vaccinated are at greater risk of contracting covid than the unvaxxed.”
    Also: “this is leading to an out of season rise in covid deaths in the UK with deaths per day at ~6X the level of the same date last year and rising when last year was falling into a summer trough. ”
    He has the graph just underneath.

  117. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Caution advised if you find old issues of Trucking Life in your specialists waiting room.

  118. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “Please.
    It’s not that sort of blog.”

    Exactly.
    Logical? Next you’ll want sensible as well. Then sane. Where does it end?

  119. miltonf Avatar
    miltonf

    The election was stolen.
    But the citizenry are unable to put their case.
    The Courts, the police, the FBI/CIA, and the media are all in on the theft.
    There is only one way to to beat the swamp.

    and now they’re punishing the citizenry- also a warning not to vote for another Trump type candidate. How else can you interpret ‘open borders’ and high gasoline prices.

  120. dover0beach Avatar

    I’m not so sure. You do a decent job of presenting the Russian side so I don’t need to read anything else on that score. So it’s coming out, otherwise you wouldn’t be posting it.

    How does that address the official lying of UKR and its surrogates, and the uncritical amplification of these lies by the MSM designed to draw NATO, etc. into a hot war with RUS?

  121. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    Back to school in Volnovakha -a recent war zone.

    https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1513735035190333443

  122. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Grey carrot top,
    Your application for the groovy gang has been approved.
    Check your email.

  123. Kneel Avatar
    Kneel

    “How else can you interpret ‘open borders’ and high gasoline prices.”

    Well, the former is replacing the electorate that they currently despise, and the latter is on purpose – goes back to Obama, if not earlier.

  124. cohenite Avatar
    cohenite

    Wasn’t there a bet about how long biden would last? I must admit the vile old creep has hung around longer then I thought. The msm is literally propping him up while the swampies take turns in putting their paws up his arse to move his mouth.

  125. Struth Avatar

    Let it out Grey Ranga…
    No good bottling it up.
    Of course I read you self confessed “coffee snob” wanker.
    Boring.
    However, open up a window and scream out these words, as it will make you feel better.
    “I’ve been up myself all my life and now I’m going to end my life via my own hands with a lowly truckie type WHO DRINKS NESCAFE GOLD laughing at me”
    “God why have thou art forsaken me?”
    If the clouds part , there’s a bit of lightning (probably ball) and you hear a voice saying..you fucken deserve it you wanker, he was telling you not to take it.
    By the way, we only serve Nescafe Gold up here, the devil has the coffee machine.

  126. JC Avatar

    How does that address the official lying of UKR and its surrogates, and the uncritical amplification of these lies by the MSM designed to draw NATO, etc. into a hot war with RUS?

    Perhaps you’re misreading the story-line. I’m pro Uke. I think what Putin did- trampling over the sovereign nation- is egregious. That doesn’t make me want to see a war between NATO and Russia, so why assume everyone in the media wants that appalling scenario?

  127. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Nescafe ‘Gold’.
    Who’s the coffee snob now?

  128. P Avatar
    P

    THE CURRENT THING: George Soros Loses BIG in Hungary

    In this episode of The Remnant Underground, Michael J. Matt discusses the Current Thing as defined, for the point of this discussion, by GK Chesterton a hundred years ago.

    What is the Current Thing and how is it being used – from Covid to Ukraine – to create ‘right thinking’ throughout the world and to punish anyone who questions the current narrative.

    Case in point: Viktor Orbán, the prime minister of Hungary. Against all odds (and opposition from the entire Soros machine), Orbán won a fourth term last week. Did you hear about that? No? Maybe that’s because they don’t want us to know about that.

    If we think of Orbán at all, the media will help us to think of him not as a family man and father of 5 beautiful children, but rather as a goose-stepping Nazi who’s coming to take us away, oh my!

    So, what’s Orbán all about, and what does his stunning victory portend?

    Michael takes a deep dive, and then uses the media misinformation about Orbán to make his case that we’re being lied to about a lot of things going on in the world today, including and especially the war in Ukraine. And it’s time to wake up.

    Plus, you won’t believe what Francis has done now! Just like with Covid, he’s leading the globalist charge in Ukraine.

  129. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    So it’s coming out,

    It’s minuscule at best, compared to the universal horrible Russia propaganda tsunami daily. Anything that is remotely Ukr negative is spiked across the MSM. Conversely, anything that could possibly show Russia’s side even factually, is spiked by the MSM too. As we all know the MSM is our arch enemy, just as they were during covid and Trump’s presidency.

  130. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Nescafe ‘Gold’.

    Poofta pansy Euro auto coffee.

  131. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Nescafé Gold.
    Perfectly adequate.
    In an emergency.

  132. Bruce in WA Avatar
    Bruce in WA

    1 hour ago
    Renewed calls to lower voting age to 16

    Aaaaand … the Greens are behind it.

    Of course; they know all about the sort of hard-green indoctrination that passes for education in schools these days. That kids barely out of nappies would vote for them is a lay-down misère.

  133. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Wasn’t there a bet about how long biden would last? I must admit the vile old creep has hung around longer then I thought. The msm is literally propping him up while the swampies take turns in putting their paws up his arse to move his mouth.

    I think from memory I gave the sniffer till june 22, who is keeping track of the sniffer lotto?

  134. Struth Avatar

    There’s a time for serious discussion and to put points out there, which I have done, and so have many, many, many others here, many times.
    We’ve taken our responsibilities toward our fellow man seriously, by not complying and by reporting to you about globalism and the jab, how it is killing people and just starting……..we pleaded with you not to surrender and not get yourself jabbed WITH AN UNTESTED POISON PUSHED ON YOU BY CRIMINALS……I argued with dumb arsed hysterical women with no integrity whatsoever, screaming banshees calling people nanna killers, only to be scoffed at by the surrender monkeys, the “good Nazis” flashing their green ticks, participating in segregation, and taking trips overseas.

    We’ve done out bit.
    No one can say we didn’t try or we didn’t take our responsibilities seriously.

    So now we’ll have some fun.
    You made your beds, now die in them.

  135. JC Avatar

    This is possibly the only time I’ve ever say this. I can’t see how the msm could be doing a more effective job in regards to the war. They are on the Uke side, which I obviously grant but how would those calling the MSM corrupt expect them to gather the information? Do you expect them to go to hot war areas and watch the shooting match? Even if they did ,they would only be seeing a microcosm of what’s going on and therefore it would be be next to useless. They obviously have to rely on the information provided by the respective propaganda offices. The one problem on the Russian side is that they’ve banned a lot of the western media from reporting from their side.

  136. Vicki Avatar

    The other issue to think about is that the unvaccinated which constitute a minority or people typically with a very big axe to grind, are the least likely to report an infection.

    Totally anecdotal, I know – but not a single person I know who is unvaccinated has tested positive to COVID. Now, these are all people who, when needing to see family, regularly tested themselves. However, now that the virus is rampant, and the vaccinated are mostly not as wary of the unvaccinated, they don’t test so regularly. Nevertheless, I am confidant that, like me, they would test at any suspicious sign of infection. As for notifying of a positive test – I can’t see why, speaking for myself, they would be any less likely to notify than the vaccinated. After all, we have been (resentfully) compliant with all their blasted rules for 2 years.

    Now, why is are the unvaccinated so far free of the virus? Probably because virtually all of them, like my husband and I, determined to remain as physically fit and healthy as possible to resist infection. Like us, they are aware of recommended protocol for early infection and/or treat themselves prophylactically (as we do) with the vitamins et al recommended by the FLCCC. Despite the hysteria around everything “Covid” – it really isn’t “rocket science”. Even so, none of us believe we will remain virus free, but are hopeful, that even if we contract it, we have every chance of our immune systems coping well.

  137. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Head Prefect you say you are pro Uke, that means you are pro the New World Odor yes?
    You like Schwab, Soros,Biden & the fat Turkish twat in London, also you love the warmongers in NATO?
    You also seem to prefer selling strategically important items like oil & gas, plus wheat ,corn & fertiliser for coloured bits of paper.
    Putin, like him or not is shaking the financial system of the global bankers & I love it.
    Instead of going to NYC, You should maybe go to DC where your heroes reside?

  138. JC Avatar

    Now, why is are the unvaccinated so far free of the virus? Probably because virtually all of them, like my husband and I, determined to remain as physically fit and healthy as possible to resist infection.

    Vicki, you’re dreaming. Fit and healthy likely means you won’t catch a serious bout that will kill you. It doesn’t preclude you from getting it. Kids appear to get it just was easily, but they’re hardly impacted.

  139. Winston Smith Avatar

    Sluggate:
    https://twitter.com/Ben10Cook/status/1513598049133928449?cxt=HBwWgoDRtYDasIEqAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email
    VicPol D/S Penry wrote the briefing note to VicPol Command, listing – 5 key Persons of Interest including Brett Sutton & John Bennie. VicPol never questioned them. Never laid charges. Now they are investigating who leaked the Briefing note…

  140. JC Avatar

    Head Prefect you say you are pro Uke, that means you are pro the New World Odor yes?
    You like Schwab, Soros,Biden & the fat Turkish twat in London, also you love the warmongers in NATO?
    You also seem to prefer selling strategically important items like oil & gas, plus wheat ,corn & fertiliser for coloured bits of paper.
    Putin, like him or not is shaking the financial system of the global bankers & I love it.
    Instead of going to NYC, You should maybe go to DC where your heroes reside?

    Okay, fair enough, Ted. All good.

    Did you make up the banana quota for the day and how many?

  141. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    They are on the Uke side, which I obviously grant but how would those calling the MSM corrupt expect them to gather the information?

    Have you ever heard of editing or censorship? Spin? Propaganda ? Are you seriously trying to make a case for the honest and unbiased reporting on Russia and this conflict, free of propaganda? That the MSM is NOT corrupted? That’s ludicrous in the extreme.

  142. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    However I’ve only ever heard it pronounced “stock root” by people who’ve not pushed a mob along one

    A mob of sheep?

  143. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    rosiesays:
    April 12, 2022 at 3:42 pm

    The proses to become a foster or kinship carer is well beyond public mandate. It would not surprise me a delay in placing the kid played a part.

  144. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    VicPol D/S Penry wrote the briefing note to VicPol Command, listing – 5 key Persons of Interest including Brett Sutton & John Bennie. VicPol never questioned them. Never laid charges. Now they are investigating who leaked the Briefing note…

    Would this be the same Vicpol that was banging on last week about how it will be rebuilding brand trust with the public?

  145. John of Mel Avatar
    John of Mel

    they’ve banned a lot of the western media from reporting from their side

    Huge assumption right there…

  146. JC Avatar

    Have you ever heard of editing or censorship? Spin? Propaganda ? Are you seriously trying to make a case for the honest and unbiased reporting on Russia and this conflict, free of propaganda? That the MSM is NOT corrupted? That’s ludicrous in the extreme.

    I really don’t know what there is to be biased about and to hide. Russia is currently trampling through Ukraine. Leave opinion writing aside, how would report on the war? How would you gather information?

  147. John of Mel Avatar
    John of Mel

    reporting

    Bold doesn’t work inside of a quote, apparently.

  148. Struth Avatar

    People aren’t getting anything at all, if they are it was once called a cold before people lost their minds.

    The jabbed aren’t dying of covid either…..that’s right, why would struth say that?

    They are dying of the jab and the way it kills is being blamed on covid, it’s fucking obvious.
    To keep the fucktards like the sneerers here jabbing themselves to death and in a constant state of panic….

    Remember, no one was dying of the original covid before the vaxxes came out like they are dying now.
    It’s fucking obvious to those of us who haven’t lost our shit like the soon to cark it JC.

    People dying on the sports field and in the stands, insurance companies pointing out the young ages,
    Honestly you old pricks have probably only got months or weeks left.
    Start writing bucket lists, but ones that don’t get the heart rate up.
    You don’t want that mile long blood clot forming inside you taking you out, like it’ll probably take out
    Sancho when he gets a bit over excited on his Wednesday evening after dinner wank.

  149. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    People do know that covid was rampant in Melbourne (and possibly Sydney?) child care centres and primary schools late last year, none of the children in child care or primary schools were vaccinated (primary school vaccination was only approved from 10 January this year)
    Doesn’t support the pandemic of the vaccinated argument.

  150. JC Avatar

    Huge assumption right there…

    Okay, then explain what is going on. One foreign media group that was Russia negative was thrown out of the place. Also, which Russian news groups are allowed to report accurately about the war without the threat of being “accidentally” poisoned?

  151. JC Avatar

    Whoops

    This shouldn’t be in quotes.

    Okay, then explain what is going on. One foreign media group that was Russia negative was thrown out of the place. Also, which Russian news groups are allowed to report accurately about the war without the threat of being “accidentally” poisoned?

  152. Ed Case Avatar
    Ed Case

    John Howard is correct to say that Albanese having no idea of the Unemployment Rate or the Cash Rate is no big deal.
    Gotcha Politics is the Labor Party’s territory and it hasn’t done them much good.
    Albanese’s inappropriate response, where he started berating the Questioner, that’s a different story.
    Albanese has Anger Issues and those Issues are always close to the surface.

  153. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

    A mob of sheep?

    Exactly! (“Herd“, haha) That’s far from the only glaring misuse of a word in the workaday cattle industry.
    Eg: “Weaner” is in general use in Australia as the noun for a calf being weaned away from the cow.
    + there are lotsa other informal words in use.

    Obviously the cattle industry requires more professors to instruct yokels in correct use of English, lest they not understand each other.

  154. Struth Avatar

    People do know that covid was rampant in Melbourne (and possibly Sydney?) child care centres and primary schools late last year, none of the children in child care or primary schools were vaccinated (primary school vaccination was only approved from 10 January this year)
    Doesn’t support the pandemic of the vaccinated argument.

    The tests were bushit, they admitted that, the kids weren’t sick and you’re a mental case.

  155. JC Avatar

    Stuth

    What are you doing for work these days?

  156. dopey Avatar
    dopey

    Another election, another Labor ad, this time round it’s..’strengthening Medicare.’

  157. Rex Anger Avatar
    Rex Anger

    Albanese has Anger Issues

    No, but Anger stands to potentially have Albanese issues…

  158. calli Avatar
    calli

    Rosie, my family all got it via the kids. Ran through preschool and primary like head lice.

    Children mildly unwell, parents varied in level from go to bed and sleep it off to Panadol and soldier on. The women were the most ill, possibly because they were a bit run down.

    Now my doc has it via his own kids and is isolating, hence the phone consult. And yes, most likely a poorly jabbed arm for me that came a little too close to the nerve. To think the idiots were co opting beauticians to give the jabs. An ultrasound is a month away. Yay.

  159. Dr Faustus Avatar
    Dr Faustus

    How does that address the official lying of UKR and its surrogates, and the uncritical amplification of these lies by the MSM designed to draw NATO, etc. into a hot war with RUS?

    Not sure which MSM you’re reading, but I’m not seeing any jingoism in the UK, Frog, or Kraut media about joining into a hot war with Russia.

    They certainly accept everything coming out of Zelenskiy as gospel. And accept obviously suss reports at face value:

    The far-right Ukrainian Azov regiment said: “Russian occupation forces used a poisonous substance of unknown origin against Ukrainian military and civilians in the city of Mariupol, which was dropped from an enemy drone.

    But nobody I can see in the local media, or mainstream politics is advocating for NATO to go storming into Ukraine. Even Zelenskiy appears to have picked up that message.

  160. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    Leave opinion writing aside, how would report on the war? How would you gather information?

    Yes, opinions out and report ALL facts. Not the regurgitated propaganda and 5th/6th hand
    I was told” pieces , garbage we are being fed now. Start with the facts about the Ukr coup, the oppression and mass murder of ethnic Russians in Ukraine , the thrue role of nazism in Ukraine’s politics. Everyone knows Russia is in Ukraine but what exactly are they doing? What I’m seeing and reading is Russia looking after the occupied territories- pensions, welfare, schools back. That doesn’t fit the narrative of the blood thirsty murderous conquerors MSM want you to believe.

    And FFS let’s get real, the Russ have enough ammo, artie, tanks and air power to flatten any city in Ukr they want to. But they aren’t. Another narrative fail the MSM don’t want punters to twig to.

    All the MSM is reporting, and you appear to be supporting, is the fake news, propaganda, made up horse shit coming out of Zhelensky’s office.

    Tony
    @Cyberspec1
    #RussiaUkraine #Propaganda
    Zelenski advisor (and chief propagandist) #Arestovich has publicly admitted spreading 2 fakes
    1. That the RUS airbase at Melitopol was bombed
    2. That RUS soldiers had made posts where they were threatening Bucha residents

    https://twitter.com/Cyberspec1/status/1513674887281315842

    (Cat Russian speakers to verify this?)

  161. calli Avatar
    calli

    Yes…Medicare seems to be their target. Despite the billions spent on the “pandemic”, it’s never enough.

    The extra money will go to the already bloated bureaucracy as usual.

  162. Struth Avatar

    It’s laughable how easy people people are conned into killing themselves because they’re afraid of dying.

    Why do you think the booster wanes so quickly and all the jab deaths are blamed on covid?
    Do you think that message would be getting out if they didn’t want you to be fighting off others to get your weekly jab, as it wanes so fast?
    Why do you think Mr WEF, Greg Hunt, bought all those millions and millions of doses?

    Why weren’t people dying OF covid before the vaccines , but WITH covid and extreme old age….all in old folks homes most likely.
    Does any of this go through to your clotted minds?

  163. John of Mel Avatar
    John of Mel

    Also, which Russian news groups are allowed to report accurately about the war without the threat of being “accidentally” poisoned?

    I think the bigger question is – what media group has been allowed to report accurately on any significant issue in the last 10-15 years?

  164. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Brilliant Head Prefect, let’s talk about bananas, you dumb shite.
    Refute my post or fuck off.
    Anyone who takes financial advice or medical advice from you deserves all they get.

  165. JC Avatar

    All the MSM is reporting, and you appear to be supporting, is the fake news, propaganda, made up horse shit coming out of Zhelensky’s office.

    Don’t but smarmy. We have enough gaslighting on at this site to blow up a city if there were a gas leak. I said at the very beginning that I believe both sides are spewing out propaganda.

  166. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Obviously, if the tests are rubbish, no-one including the vaccinated, has had it.

  167. JC Avatar

    Anyone who takes financial advice or medical advice from you deserves all they get.

    I don’t out financial advice Ted. I only do brain surgery. You need to come in for a consult.

  168. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    they’ve banned a lot of the western media from reporting from their side

    too much of a security risk. the ruskies have been extremely good at ensuring their troops are not giving away positions with mobile phones. I have also read that they have left the phone system in place and have used it effectively to target ukrainian troops (and foreign mercenaries) that have not been so disciplined.

  169. Struth Avatar

    Stuth

    What are you doing for work these days?

    I’d tell you but you’d only forget.
    Just dream it up, like you do most shit.
    You can dream something up different every day now, like hiding your own Easter eggs this weekend.

    Just don’t run too fast around the back yard in excitement, and don’t make that coffee too strong.
    You do have a back yard, don’t you?

  170. JC Avatar

    I think the bigger question is – what media group has been allowed to report accurately on any significant issue in the last 10-15 years?

    Do you think you know the truth/ accurate news? If not then you don’t know anything that’s going on in real life as it’s all lies.

  171. JC Avatar

    Stuth, are you working or on some form of disability pension. Honest question. I’m not leading to anything nefarious.

  172. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    You stated this;

    “I can’t see how the msm could be doing a more effective job in regards to the war.”

    … and this;

    but how would those calling the MSM corrupt expect them to gather the information?

    You appear very sympathetic to MSM reporting on the conflict- because it suits your pro-Ukr stance. That isn’t gas lighting , that’s called an observation.

  173. dopey Avatar
    dopey

    I wonder does Albo know the Medicare levy.

  174. bespoke Avatar
    bespoke

    Lol! Tinta.

  175. Struth Avatar

    Rosie, my family all got it via the kids. Ran through preschool and primary like head lice.

    Children mildly unwell, parents varied in level from go to bed and sleep it off to Panadol and soldier on. The women were the most ill, possibly because they were a bit run down.

    Now my doc has it via his own kids and is isolating, hence the phone consult. And yes, most likely a poorly jabbed arm for me that came a little too close to the nerve. To think the idiots were co opting beauticians to give the jabs. An ultrasound is a month away. Yay.

    In the olden days, back in 2019, this was called “a bit of a wog is going through the school at the moment”, followed by a roll of the eyes and then on to mothers talking about more important things, like bitching about their men.
    Now it requires shutting a city down.
    All because we let women out of the kitchen but even worse still, put them in charge of education systems.

    Sorry, but they did use that disgusting racist term back there JC, I don’t know how you’ve coped with such rabid , haunting Racism.
    Dagos should never have to put up with that rubbish.
    I suppose you’re getting your oversized mausoleum built as we speak?

  176. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Head Prefect, admit you like coloured paper over actual commodities….come on man.

  177. Frank Avatar
    Frank

    NESCAFÉ Gold Original Instant Coffee

    The Arabica and Robusta coffee beans have been carefully selected, then roasted to bring out their natural flavour.

    Ahem, robusta, aka Vietnamese* ditch beans. Infra dig. Truly the mouthwash of cretins.

    *worlds biggest exporter of coffee beans.

  178. JC Avatar

    You appear very sympathetic to MSM reporting on the conflict- because it suits your pro-Ukr stance. That isn’t gas lighting , that’s called an observation.

    Not at all. I’m trying to understand how some people who are accusing the msm of being war-corrupt would gather information that can be reported.

  179. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Also Head Prefect why are you a big supporter of George Soros?
    Most sane people think he should be executed.

  180. JC Avatar

    Head Prefect, admit you like coloured paper over actual commodities….come on man.

    Of course I do. I’m not going to store a hundred 44 gallon drums filled with crude in my below ground garage. It would spoil the look and the fumes would be unbearable.

    Ted, you’re exhibit A why the web isn’t for everyone.

    How many bananas today?Tell us?

  181. Franx Avatar
    Franx

    That virologist friend of JC did not really say much other than express uncertainties about evidence at hand and about evidence being not at hand – yet from these observations he could come note that those persons not in favour of an approach which evidence could not support were doomsayers. Pfizer though was not a vaccine that the virologist chose to recommend.

  182. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    Not at all. I’m trying to understand how some people who are accusing the msm of being war-corrupt would gather information that can be reported.

    You don’t get it. If you want to find out facts about both sides of the story, the MSM is the last place to look. It’s fkd finished- forget it. Look elsewhere. And ffs don’t back or spruik MSM regurgitated propaganda sludge , giving it credence.

  183. JC Avatar

    Runnybum says:
    April 12, 2022 at 5:20 pm

    Also Head Prefect why are you a big supporter of George Soros?
    Most sane people think he should be executed.

    We executed for him, or his fund. Great commission payer. One of the best on the street. I am where I am partially because of his generosity 🙂 We didn’t trade with him but his *execution desk. He wasn’t political in the 90s.

    * execute trades not people like you.

    How many did you pick?

  184. Runnybum Avatar
    Runnybum

    Head Prefect, you are not a genius at changing the topic, you just dodge relevant questions, time you fucked off to America & please don’t come back.
    Your only refuting of my posts is to gobshite about bananas, what a twunt.

  185. dover0beach Avatar

    This is possibly the only time I’ve ever say this. I can’t see how the msm could be doing a more effective job in regards to the war. They are on the Uke side, which I obviously grant but how would those calling the MSM corrupt expect them to gather the information? Do you expect them to go to hot war areas and watch the shooting match? Even if they did ,they would only be seeing a microcosm of what’s going on and therefore it would be be next to useless. They obviously have to rely on the information provided by the respective propaganda offices.

    Given that Australia is not one of the sides involved, why is the media pro-UKR? They’re news organizations; their job is to gather information not merely repeat press releases from officials. They can put war correspondents on the ground and/or interview those already in situ. When an event occurs they report it tentatively, not conclusively, when they have not verified the particulars.

    Not sure which MSM you’re reading, but I’m not seeing any jingoism in the UK, Frog, or Kraut media about joining into a hot war with Russia.

    All the talk of no-fly zones a few weeks back implied a hot war. Only yesterday I saw the following tweet:

    Anders Östlund
    @andersostlund
    Russia’s war against Ukraine will end with the break-up of the Russian Federation. It will be replaced by small, demilitarized and powerless republics with neutrality written into their constitutions.

    This crazy talk is only getting worse.

  186. JC Avatar

    Franx

    The virologist comment about doomsaying was in direct reference to some specific bilge Brucie Nobel posted. It wasn’t about anything else. That’s what I said. Please wake up and stay alert.

  187. JC Avatar

    Your only refuting of my posts is to gobshite about bananas, what a twunt.

    Yes I am.

  188. Makka Avatar
    Makka

    Given that Australia is not one of the sides involved, why is the media pro-UKR?

    Because we are US lackey’s in every sense. And that includes our Govt and media. We will never deviate from the US line while this relationship exists. By the way- in our neighborhood it’s the only game in town. So we eat the shit sandwich but we don;t have to enjoy it.

  189. rickw Avatar
    rickw

    Eminently qualified, Rosie. His life’s work is the study and research into viruses that could potentially lead to pandemics. By hey, needs it , right?

    I wouldn’t trust a virologist as far as I could drop kick one.

    A person who’s whole career is built on a single virus having the almost mutually exclusive properties of being both deadly and highly transmissible.

    If virologists were professional and trustworthy this whole shit show would have ended the instant the Ruby Princess data came in.

    But it didn’t, dreary Mongs having their moment in the sun “saving everyone”.

  190. JC Avatar

    That’s interesting Rickw. We shouldn’t believe virologists and infectious diseases specialists but a couple of biased clowns on the web are credible. Perhaps you can specifically tell us where he is wrong in his comments.

    This excerpt came from his reply to me:

    There certainly are possible off-target effects with the current formulation but it is fair to say that the majority of the lipid nanoparticles are taken up by the intended antigen presenting cells with good humeral and cellular anti-SARS-CoV-2 immunity.

    Can you critique and explain why you believe the majority of the lipid antiparticles aren’t taken up by the intended antigen cells in the good humeral and cellular …..”

    If you can’t trust him you ought to be able to explain what you find wrong with the above, right?

  191. John of Mel Avatar
    John of Mel

    Do you think you know the truth/ accurate news? If not then you don’t know anything that’s going on in real life as it’s all lies.

    No, I don’t claim that I know all the truth. I know some. Enough to smell the bs being spewed by MSM.
    It’s funny watching all these “leaders” of the Western world cry about the rise of authoritarianism when for the last two years they were openly spitting on our rights, constitutions, laws all in the name of “keeping us safe”, cheered on by the MSM (being handsomely paid by our taxes, or by people whose names cannot be mentioned here, because “conspiracy!”). And I can see similar MO in the “current thing”, which we were told we are all supposed to support.
    For example, what’s the point for the Russian army to do something like the Ukrainians claimed they did in Bucha? What does it achieve? How do they benefit? I smell bs, especially after seeing videos of the “corpses” moving. And there are many examples like this.
    So far, I haven’t seen anything that makes me doubt that the stated goals on Ukraine are not what Putin is trying to achieve there.
    I can also see the rise of anti-Russian sentiment here in KZ, being nudged on by foreign NGOs and local nationalists (they might be a real deal or paid actors for all I know). Is this a natural reaction to the current events or something that was planned? I don’t know the answer to this question, but I’m suspicious.

    And I think that’s the best anyone can hope for in today’s world – know enough to smell the bs through the wall of propaganda.

  192. JC Avatar

    John of Melb

    What justification did Putin have to attempt to invade Uke?

  193. dover0beach Avatar

    Not at all. I’m trying to understand how some people who are accusing the msm of being war-corrupt would gather information that can be reported.

    It’s pretty simple. There was an Italian journalist in Kramatorsk who later that night took a photo of the serial number of the Tochka-U. Internet autists later compared that serial number to two missiles used by UKR in Donbass in 2015. It was within 14 units of the earlier two. Be that Italian journalist. There are three other journalists in Donbass, two are UK and the other is French, doing God’s work as well.

  194. Franx Avatar
    Franx

    JC I mentioned no names as the circumstances were perfectly clear. At issue was a viewpoint, different from yours, which you now call bilge and which the virologist attributes to doomsayers. Derogatory terminology and comments about persons don’t wash.

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