Open Thread – Tuesday 10 May 2022


The (Little) Tower of Babel, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563

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Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:13 am
Gabor
Gabor
May 12, 2022 4:14 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
May 12, 2022 at 3:58 am

So it will cost us at least a hundred pounds each in return fares

Not disputing, but fares must have tripled since last year, we only paid 20 quid each way, ie 40 pounds return.

Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:18 am
Gabor
Gabor
May 12, 2022 4:19 am

Sorry Tom

Tom
Tom
May 12, 2022 4:19 am
Zipster
Zipster
May 12, 2022 5:41 am

Vietnam catching up rapidly to Guangdong in export volumes, after catching the wave on Covid relaxation, is very very welcome news.

another communist shithole what could possibly go wrong

rosie
rosie
May 12, 2022 5:42 am

Matrix is the consistent winner of
‘Least valuable comment of the day award’
Monty or no Monty.

Zipster
Zipster
May 12, 2022 6:17 am

Kiev cites “force majeure” to halt a third of Russian transited gas flow to Europe, while Gazprom says there have been no issues that would justify the move : https://bit.ly/3wf3zaK

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 12, 2022 6:27 am

Both India and China increasing coal power by lots, while we have posturing pollies taking us down the wrong path, aided by complicit green left media.
Jo Nova has the numbers.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 12, 2022 6:39 am

other countries in the region are well placed to substitute China. Vietnam catching up rapidly to Guangdong in export volumes, after catching the wave on Covid relaxation, is very very welcome news.

I can confirm Fisky’s comments.
A few tech businesses I’m invested in that are focused on freight, escrow & other related cross border stuff were already going gangbusters but the past month have gone radio rental.
Non-China Asia is the place to be.

Cassie of Sydney
May 12, 2022 6:44 am

“Not going to disagree with that, but I suspect the teals who actually get elected are going to be a lot more like the Liberal wets I characterised. The Zoe Daniels of this world are getting a lot of press but they are up against it to actually win. The ones who are just Liberals-plus-climate-change are in a much better electoral position.”

Monty writing absolute rot. I don’t know whether you’ve read the latest polling but the two “Teal Independents” who’re are on track to beat two sitting Liberals are…..Zoe Daniel in Goldstein and Monique Ryan in Kooyong…..I’d hardly call either women “a lot more like the Liberal wets”, both are ideological hard–left Greens.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 12, 2022 6:56 am

Today in No Evidence of Election Fraud:

New Mexico audit reveals that voting machines can do just about anything from altering ballots to altering totals.
But neither the GOP or Fox News is across the details of the stolen election, so various journos and pollies can keep saying nothing to see here.

Cassie of Sydney
May 12, 2022 7:04 am

“Sweden officially ends 80 years of neutrality,”

What “80 years”? Sweden’s neutrality goes back to the early 1800s, it was a policy introduced by its first Bernadotte King. Sweden was officially neutral during both World War I and World War II (although many of its citizens did covertly helped Germany in both wars).

Sweden’s policy of “official neutrality” has been eroding for decades. Since 2009, Sweden has entered into some defence treaties with the EU as well as other Nordic countries. And the clamouring to join NATO has nothing to do with Putin, some Swedish political parties such as the Liberal Party of Sweden and various politicians have been agitating to become a full member of NATO since the early 2000s. Once again, nothing to do with Putin.

Do try and get some facts right, please.

Cassie of Sydney
May 12, 2022 7:08 am

Peta Credlin has a very good piece in today’s Oz about the state of the Liberal Party. Worth reading.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2022 7:14 am

Looks like Paul Gallen’s slugging career may be over. A fighter, he came up against a boxer in Kris Terzievski.

Gallen’s style was similar to early Tyson without the blistering hand speed or evasion – crouch, move inside, short brutal left/right hooks upstairs and downstairs, with a few uppercuts thrown in. Break, repeat. Combined with a chin like concrete, he was extremely hard to get around.

Terzievski had him in height and reach, but that wasn’t the problem. The problem for Gallen was that Terzievski is a southpaw, and unlike all Gallen’s other opponents Terzievski also has outstanding footwork and ringcraft. He put Gallen where he didn’t want to be.

Terzievski got home on a unanimous decision, and then headed straight back to the sheds because he was absolutely fucked. Gallen stuck around for yonks before heading back, taking selfies with fight aficionados. Terrifying.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 12, 2022 7:19 am

KD, Gal has what Dr Hibbert said Homer Simpson had.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2022 7:22 am

Time is speeding away here

Terrence McKenna said that could happen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2022 7:34 am

Brooke Cotchin.
Maddy Dangerfield.
Nicky Buckley.
Nadia Bartel (Comensoli).

Look to your betters, you D Grade amateurs. The Hun:

Ms Vardy, who is married to Leicester City striker Jamie Vardy, is locked in a libel battle – dubbed by the media as the “Wagatha Christie” trial – with Coleen Rooney, wife of former Manchester United star Wayne Rooney. The 40-year-old is suing Ms Rooney for publicly accusing her of leaking “false stories” about Mr Rooney’s private life to the media in 2019. Ms Rooney is defending the libel claim on the basis of truth and public interest.

The online spat between the high-profile footballers’ wives has escalated into a High Court battle involving top-name lawyers with costs estimated to run into millions of dollars.

Ms Vardy, a mum-of-five who was seven months pregnant when Ms Rooney accused her of leaking stories, wept as she gave evidence on Wednesday, The Sun reports.

She has faced a full day of questioning at the High Court, with a judge hearing a series of bombshell allegations that she leaked information to the media, according to the outlet.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 12, 2022 7:36 am

Wagatha Christie.
Noice.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 7:41 am

The BRS court fight seems just one of a string of such things, like Heard and Depp and this one. Is it because society has gone woke, or is something else going on to cause all this dirty laundry airing?
I have no idea.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 7:45 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
May 11, 2022 at 9:56 pm
“Did you look at that article in Quadrant On-Line?”

Just read it. I know that area like the back of my hand. I know where Allegra lives.

There’s a reason why I call her Princess Allegra…she’s the personification of “do as I say, not as I do”….a total hypocrite and fraud.

I then recall a moment in a recent Sky News debate with local Liberal Dave Sharma, where each was asked what they were actually doing to allay the threat of climate change. Each candidate responded they had not installed solar panels. Neither drives an electric car. According to a report,

Ms Spender said she had tried to get solar panels on her house but due to strata rules she wasn’t able to. She said she didn’t have a garage or driveway and therefore couldn’t have an electric car – instead opting for both hybrid and diesel vehicles.

There are only two letterboxes out front of Allegra’s unit block, which leads me to reflect that this can’t be a very big strata committee. In fact, a search of the property records shows that Allegra owns one unit outright (no mortgage) and is joint owner of the 2nd unit with a 10 per cent share. The remainder is held by a lass who shares a surname with Allegra’s half-brother, Johan Schumann, the current CEO of Carla Zampatti Pty Ltd, the iconic fashion brand founded by their mother.

So, Allegra is 60 per cent owner of the block, but she can’t get around those strata rules? Crikey, they must be set in stone!

Also obvious from the street (through a gap in the front hedge) is a large Fujitsu inverter sitting beneath the front window. So, it would seem Allegra does not suffer for the climate cause during Sydney’s humid summer months but relaxes in air-conditioned comfort. Or perhaps she has found an energy provider who sources from wind farms or hydro only, not dirty coal.

Indolent
Indolent
May 12, 2022 7:53 am
Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
May 12, 2022 7:58 am

Following on from Cassie’s suggestion …

Lose quiet Aussies, and lose the election

PETA CREDLIN

The Coalition’s position might look better if it had not been ‘bullied by the media, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and its inner-city ‘modern Liberal’ MPs into net zero’. Picture:

12:00AM MAY 12, 2022

If you believe the commentariat, one of Labor’s most underwhelming leaders in recent memory is headed for the Lodge, flanked by ministerial retreads from the failed Rudd-Gillard era, promising little in the way of reform beyond greater deficits, higher social welfare spending, a faster trajectory to net zero and, this week, increased wages, which is not in the remit of government to deliver.

And Labor’s opponents? Win, lose or draw, the Liberal Party faces some tough soul-searching post-election. If you listen to those panicked by the rise of the so-called teal independents, mainly moderates given the seats under threat, the party should move further to the left to keep its once blue-ribbon seats, now apparently full of voters obsessing over climate and identity given their financial insulation from the real world. Yet based on the polls and actual election results, staying firmly on the centre-right remains the Liberals’ better bet.

Compare the 9 per cent support for One Nation and the United Australia Party in this week’s Newspoll with the 6 per cent support for “others”. Even if all those in the “others” column were ex-Liberal supporters opting for teals, that’s still less than the support for right-wing minor parties, largely from former loyalists who think the Coalition has lost its way.

It’s true the teals tend to be concentrated in well-to-do areas that once voted heavily Liberal before demographic change and redistributions. But support for splinter parties on the right is pretty evenly spread, including in the marginal outer-metropolitan and regional seats that largely determine who forms government.

And every move the Liberals make in the teals’ direction alienates conservative voters, who subsequently want to punish the Coalition for breaking faith with them; and for what? Movements to the left to appease teal types are never enough because their objective isn’t the Liberal Party’s salvation but its destruction.

I’d argue the biggest risk to the government is not losing one or two wealthy seats to the green-left but losing quiet Australians to conservative splinter parties, with their ill-disciplined preference flows, that don’t try to sit on both sides of the political fence. Committing to net-zero emissions by 2050 doesn’t seem to have placated any of the teals but may well contribute to more votes for One Nation and UAP by former Coalition supporters who think they were sold a pup last election by a government that had called Labor’s 45 per cent by 2030 emissions cut “economy wrecking”.

To me, the 2019 election is proof positive that the Coalition wins when it treats climate policy as an economic issue that shouldn’t be allowed to jeopardise jobs in mining and heavy industry (the 2013 landslide, too). It is at deep risk when it treats climate policy as a moral issue because it can never promise enough to satisfy the climate zealots.

Picture: Scott Morrison and the infamous lump of coal in parliament.

In 2019, the Liberals lost Tony Abbott’s old seat of Warringah to the original teal independent. But it won the election it was expected to lose thanks to a strong performance in regional Queensland and Western Australia, greatly assisted by the Nationals’ attack on the Greens’ anti-Adani convoy.

Immediately after the election, the Queensland Labor government stopped stalling and gave the Adani mine all the approvals it needed to start operating, and to export coal, with those same revenues propping up our budget.

Labor has won majority government only once in the past nine federal elections, and that was when Kevin Rudd was pretending to be an economic conser­vative. Conversely, the Coali­tion has done best (in 2010, 2013 and 2019) when it has campaigned on putting jobs ahead of emission reductions.

Think how much stronger the Coalition’s position would be had it not been bullied by the media, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and its inner-city “modern Liberal” MPs into net zero. Given Johnson’s post-Ukraine “climate change pass” and Britain and Europe’s desperate rethink on coal, gas and nuclear, the Coalition would have seemed principled and prescient instead of weak and inconsistent, as it does now on this issue. Scott Morrison no longer would have to look shamefaced about once bringing a lump of coal into question time. As things stand, he still can’t be seen in teal seats (he refused to visit Warringah in 2019) yet is less credible in seats he held last time.

If the Prime Minister somehow hangs on to win a second “miracle” election, the government will have to craft a fourth term agenda that’s currently absent, beyond big spending and defence promises. If the government loses, the Coalition will have to think long and hard about what it stands for and who it represents.

(Clear ‘calculation’ behind Albanese’s campaign strategy
Sky News Reporter Trudy McIntosh says the pace of the federal election campaign has been in the “spotlight” since Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese returned from COVID-19 isolation.)

In the event of a loss where Josh Frydenberg holds his seat and becomes opposition leader, the danger is the Coalition becomes more Labor-lite to hold his seat of Kooyong. If Kooyong falls to the teals (and let’s hope it doesn’t as Frydenberg is a genuine talent), there’s still a danger a party whose cultural heartland has long been in Sydney and Melbourne’s well-heeled eastern suburbs could opt to become even more progressive. This would be a recipe for permanent opposition, with the centre-right vote split between the Coalition and conservative breakaways while the whole polity drifts further left.

Consider the NSW Coalition government under Premier Dominic Perrottet, the most convinced intellectual conservative to lead it. There was a brief libertarian flurry, with quarantine rules ended and masks on public transport briefly scrapped, only for the left-liberal consensus epitomised by its Treasurer, Matt Kean, to reassert itself.

In South Australia, a Labor Right candidate threw out a one-term Liberal Left government; and in Western Australia, the Liberal Party even lost opposition (who knew that was possible?) because it pursued a green agenda more radical than Labor’s. In Victoria, other than one brief term, Labor has been in power for much of the past 30 years. Despite the economic damage Daniel Andrews has wrought, the opposition still isn’t assured of a win because it doesn’t know what it stands for or who are its people.

Instead of targeting working-class seats in outer metropolitan Melbourne, where Labor’s lockdown obsession hit hardest, the Liberals are still trying to appeal to leafy-east affluent voters who had more options during lockdown, like working from the spare room or holiday home. Whether it was the cancellation of the East West Link, allowing people to change their gender on their birth certificates every year, or now a treaty with the state’s Indigenous people, the Victorian Liberals have limply gone along with Labor.

It’s this lack of conviction from state Liberals that has infected the federal parliament. Morrison won in 2019 thanks to the quiet Australians but many feel ignored ever since. The reality is, with less than two weeks to go, if you don’t stand for something, you end up standing for nothing. There’s still time, but is there the will?

Peta Credlin is the host of Credlin on Sky News, 6pm weeknights.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 8:00 am

24% pay rise for CEOs when workers are getting their wages suppressed is not justifiable under any circumstances. Don’t come the raw prawn, Tim N.

Translation of munty speak:

“I don’t really understand proper business, but I don’t like the whole vibe of the thing.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 8:00 am

WMD news.

Study: Sarin Gas Caused Gulf War Syndrome (11 May)

A group of U.S. scientists determined in a study of American Gulf War veterans that the nerve agent sarin caused the symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome, BBC News reports.

Dr. Robert Haley of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, the lead researcher on the study, told the BBC that soldiers in Iraq at the time were exposed to a diluted sarin gas which wasn’t enough to kill them, “but it was enough to make people ill if they were genetically predisposed to illness from it.”

The study, which received much of its funding from the federal government, analyzed 1,000 American Gulf War veterans in a randomly-selected group.

Haley said, “this is the most definitive study” on Gulf War Syndrome.

It’s interesting also in view of the Aum Shinrikyo use of sarin on the Tokyo subway. The death rate was much lower than you might expect for a military nerve agent. Which I suppose goes to show that humans are pretty tough critters.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 8:00 am

Timothy Neilsonsays:
May 11, 2022 at 10:04 pm
Bloody hell, young people wanting to afford a house with a decent wage? Rampant communism!!

They’re in luck. Looking at prices around my area, apartments in inner Melbourne are sliding in price.

They can get in at the lower end of the market, work, earn, save, pay off the loan for that and then move on to something closer to their dreams.

Hmm, now that I put it that way, it sounds sort of familiar. I wonder if I know anyone who actually did that in the past…

Yep we did that 1 bedrm unit 3.4 squares Harbord- could swing a cat and hit all walls, and are trying to convince youngest and her husband living with us to purchase something in Mackay, rent out and have a place to retire to in the future.

Wife, unhappy with Bank interest, bought a year ago central Mackay, not in Flood zone, 2 Storey 121 sq m internal, 194 sq m total 2 Bedroom Townhouse for $275K, rented out for year at $385 per week within 5 days settlement

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 8:05 am

The LNP gutted our tertiary education system and turned it into a diploma mill for Asia.

munty

Tell us again who was the (LNP???) Education Minister who started the Australian university system on the road to ruin back in the 1980s? Can’t remember the correct spelling, but the name sounded like “Dorkins”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 8:06 am

Salvatore

Belated Snap!

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 8:11 am

m0ntysays:
May 11, 2022 at 10:54 pm
I compared tourism to coal mining, mole. Not other kinds of mining. Get it right if you’re going to have a go.

Don’t coal miners pay royalties, and bring in export income?

You idiot. Think before you type.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 8:14 am

In the event of a loss where Josh Frydenberg holds his seat and becomes opposition leader, the danger is the Coalition becomes more Labor-lite to hold his seat of Kooyong.

Uh huh.

Q. What’s the difference between the Liberal Party & the Labor Party?

A. Three years.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 12, 2022 8:15 am

Here’s hoping the evil inherent in Ruski urea causes the blue couch to launch an unprovoked special military operation against some carpet grass on the footpath.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 8:15 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
May 11, 2022 at 11:32 pm
Anthony Albanese:

I believe good government can change people’s lives for the better. Good government can help people build their dreams and aspirations

If only there were even the slightest indication that AnAl and the Liars are in any way capable of providing “good government”! Even being just as bad as the Lieborals might be an improvement on the Liars’ last effort.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 8:16 am

Lose quiet Aussies, and lose the election

The trouble with this story is Peta is a switched on politics junkie like we Cats. Ordinary people aren’t interested, and regarding the election are operating at the shallowest of levels.

Parties should be ‘worried’ by Australia’s understanding of politics (Sky News, 11 May)

News streaming service Flash has conducted an in-depth survey to snapshot Australia’s understanding of politics ahead of the May federal election.

Flash Executive Director Kate de Brito told Sky News Australia that political parties should be “worried” by the research.

“Some of the newsflash results showed that only 11 per cent of Australians felt confident that they understood the policies of the major parties,” she said.

“With only 10 days to go until the election, that’s a bit of a worry.

“People had much more understanding, as you referred to earlier, about pop culture moments in 2022 – they remembered the slap, they remembered Djokovic’s deportation, they remembered Ash Barty’s retirement, but they knew far more about those than they knew about things like the response to the floods or the vaccine rollout.”

In part the lack of understanding of Lib-Lab policies is because the parties are bending over backwards to not talk about them because they know the voters hate them. And the far-left MSM collaborates because they like those policies. But it seems also to be that the mk 1 punters are so disinterested that they can’t be bothered checking this stuff out, like the soft and fluffy-looking Teals. We are a country of political morons voting for parties full of morons.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
May 12, 2022 8:22 am

From one of my favourite thinkers. Lifted from the Speccie.

Jim’s How to Vote card
Rewarding the Libs guarantees a further drift to the left

James Allan
14 May 2022

9:00 AM

When readers cast their eyes on this column the election will be a week or so away. To fend off the no doubt myriad readers inquiring ‘how will Jim vote?’, here’s my take on it.

To start I take you all back six years to the 2016 election. That was the one where I argued that it was better to punish the Turnbull lefty Libs and preference Labor; to send the Coalition for a spell in the political wilderness to re-group because they so richly deserved it. And that is what I did myself. I put the Greens last, the Libs second last, Labor third last and then just randomly picked the rest. That decision, by the way, looks better with the passage of time as each year since has seen the Liberal party drift ever further leftwards – on energy policy and the daft decision to sign up to the disingenuous net zero; on all freedom related issues; on running the biggest spending and biggest taxing government in our history; on ever-woker universities; the list goes on.

By the way, what I did is the only way to punish the Liberal party if, like me, you see them as a Liberal In Name Only vehicle that has sold out virtually all of its conservative principles. Yes, I know, some of my fellow Speccie writers are saying they will put the Greens last, then Labor, then the Libs, with all the top spots reserved for the minor parties. But doing that amounts to voting for the Liberal candidate in a preferential voting system like ours – and is a big reason why only one other country on earth employs this voting system of ours. It functions as a protection racket for the two main parties, Labor and the Libs. If you put the Libs above Labor, anywhere on the ballot, then it is overwhelmingly likely you have just voted for the Liberals. If you are in Trent Zimmerman’s constituency, you’ve voted for Trent. Ditto Dave Sharma’s. So at least be clear about what you’re doing and whether you can bring yourself to vote for this present Coalition government.

The other preliminary matter to mention is the Team Morrison claim that the government’s handling of the pandemic saved 40,000 lives. This is to defend itself against the charge that Australia’s pandemic response – on the ‘weld them in their homes’ end of the spectrum – condoned despotism, police brutality and heavy-handedness, preventing citizens from leaving the country, unbelievably massive government spending needed after government itself forced businesses to close (and that everyone knows is a main cause for the looming inflation, and for transferring wealth from the poor to the rich via asset inflation and from the young to the old via massive debts our grandchildren will be paying off); vaccine and mask mandates; and the rest.

So what do we make of the ‘we saved 40,000 lives’ claim? Let me be as polite as possible. It’s patent nonsense. It’s worse than disingenuously mendacious. It’s based on looking at Europe, arbitrarily picking a median country death rate per capita, then implicitly assuming Australia’s death rate would have been precisely what it was had we been situated in Europe. But it wouldn’t have been. No European country came close to our low Covid death tally. The European country that now has some of the best ‘excess deaths during the pandemic’ numbers is Sweden, the one country that did not lock down but focused on protecting the vulnerable, trusting individual citizens and not going down the China-inspired lockdown route. So its economy is doing better than most all of Europe and it did not rack up a huge debt burden for the kids and grandkids. What basis is there for picking a model that assumes away every variable to do with geography and being an island? (And haven’t we all had enough of models that were wrong every time throughout the pandemic, and always on the over-stating it side of the ledger so convenient to the authoritarian public health types?) Listen, Taiwan is in our neck of the woods. It was nothing like as despotic as we were. And its Covid deaths per capita were seven times lower than ours.

And anyway, British epidemiologists are already predicting that deaths caused by lockdowns (think missed health checks, suicides, super-charged alcoholism, what flows from a stuffed economy and two missed years of schooling, etc.) will be upwards of ten times higher than lives saved by locking down. It was a brutal, stupid, fear-mongering approach we took in this country. It opted to throw all freedom concerns out the window. Likewise all inter-generational fairness ones. It should not be rewarded.

So if, like me, you can’t vote Liberal because of the way the government handled the pandemic – which was to defer to Labor heavy-handedness always and everywhere – why can you? That is what voters will be asking themselves as they cast their ballots.

Look, I differ from most of my fellow Speccie writers in believing that no long-term good comes from rewarding a political party that positions itself a centimetre to the right of Labor. Over time the Libs do the work of Labor, it’s just a bit slower. Frau Merkel proved this in Germany. I believe we need a circuit breaker. It would have been better to have it six years ago. But now is better than later.

So my advice is this. If your local member is a Coalition MP who has been solidly conservative and stood up against despotism during the pandemic, vote for him or her. Otherwise, if it’s a so-called ‘moderate’ Lib, which over the past six years has meant a Labor-heavy type MP, preference that candidate below Labor’s and take your medicine now. It will only get worse if you don’t. And it will effectively reward the Liberal party’s ever-more-leftwards drift. That’s the truth of the matter.

Finally, I especially don’t agree with those commentators who think it’s important for the Libs to hold on to the posh inner-city constituencies with the most lefty Liberal MPs. If Britain, Canada and the US are anything to go by, these districts are doomed. Rich people now vote left more than right. Clinton and Biden took nearly all of the hundred wealthiest districts in the US. Boris can’t win in the posh inner cities. The Liberal party cannot hold these seats long term. Our voting system slows down the trend but it won’t stop it. The winning conservative coalition is the one Trump and Boris put together – small business types, the lower-middle and working class, outer suburbs, despisers of woke stupidity, and those not in thrall to the climate alarmists.

Sooner or later the Coalition will have to go down that path. I prefer sooner. And as for the Senate, vote below the line choosing individuals. We’ll need some right-leaning small party types to win there to lessen the awfulness of what’s coming.

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 12, 2022 8:27 am

Look to your betters, you D Grade amateurs.

Wagatha Christie trial re-enacted.
Possibly.

duncanm
duncanm
May 12, 2022 8:31 am

m0ntysays:
May 11, 2022 at 8:59 pm
My bad, got the number wrong, Australian CEO pay was actually up 24% last year.

https://acsi.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/CEO-Pay-in-ASX200-Companies-2021-embargoed-13-July-2021.pdf

After being effectively flat for 6 years (pp13, average and median realised pay from 2014 to 2020)

You’ll also note on pp16 that the median reported pay took a big dive in 2020, back below 2007 levels, presumably due to the pandemic actions. So a big bounce back last year of +24% is returning to normality.

btw – their their fixed pay effectively follows CPI (pp20).

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 8:33 am

I believe good government can change people’s lives for the better. Good government can help people build their dreams and aspirations…

…and my government will tell them what those dreams and aspirations should be.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 8:36 am

Pommy football WAGS are world class. They would eat Melbournistan weather girls for breakfast and spit out the bones.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 8:36 am

Gaborsays:
May 12, 2022 at 4:14 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
May 12, 2022 at 3:58 am

So it will cost us at least a hundred pounds each in return fares

Not disputing, but fares must have tripled since last year, we only paid 20 quid each way, ie 40 pounds return.

I always found National Express Bus a good way from Victoria Station

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 8:39 am

I believe good government can change people’s lives for the better. Good government can help people build their dreams and aspirations

Also sounds like he’s been reading Kamala’s speeches.

Kneel
Kneel
May 12, 2022 8:42 am

“Here’s what you don’t get kneel.
Complying will be worse for you in the long run.
Much worse.

Wrong – they caved in because they had no choice,

Complete and utter bullshit.”

Here’s what YOU don’t get – from all appearances, the vast majority don’t agree with you.
For that matter, they don’t agree with me either.
They may indeed all be bit shit crazy to accept this – but they have.
So now what?
When your choice is lose everything you have spent your life working for and protecting, or take the risk of the jab. Yes, everything – job, home, family, friends, the whole lot. You’re not protecting those you care about if you don’t see them any more and can’t provide for them anyway, are you?

Lesser of two evils; the choice is not “good” or “bad”, it’s “bad” or “worse”. You can argue about which is “bad” and which is “worse”, but at the end of the day it’s a shit choice and I will make my own – as should you, and everyone else.
I don’t pretend to know enough about anyone else’s life to direct such choices for them, and frankly anyone like you who thinks they know enough about mine to direct my choices is an arrogant fuckwit who is no better than the GovCo arseholes that stole my rights – and if that person, like you, declares themselves to be “fiercely independent” then they are worse than those who stole my rights, because they are not only arrogant, but a hypocrite, reserving “independence” for themselves only while demanding others obey them.

So if you want to be independent, then do it – suits me. But if you think you can tell me what I should do while claiming to support independence, you can fuck off – you’re not only no help, you’re making things worse.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 8:43 am

Da Fisk

Only dumb globalists want to double down on investing in China.

The phrase “dumb globalists” seems tautological?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 8:43 am

You get the feeling your disgust towards the Lieborals can never reach James Allan’s.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 8:44 am

Also sounds like he’s been reading Kamala’s speeches.

If only he had her charisma and likeability…not to mention that endearing laugh.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 12, 2022 8:45 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
May 12, 2022 at 8:16 am
Lose quiet Aussies, and lose the election

The trouble with this story is Peta is a switched on politics junkie like we Cats. Ordinary people aren’t interested, and regarding the election are operating at the shallowest of levels.

That’s because the shallowest are the majority who watch MAFS or some such crap and think its real.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 8:47 am

China’s played. And consequently more dangerous than ever.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 8:50 am

That’s because the shallowest are the majority who watch MAFS or some such crap and think its real.

You could argue Kochie gave us KRuddy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 12, 2022 8:52 am

Apologies Mac Siccar – I’ve reported your comment by mistake. Yet to have my early morning tea.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 8:52 am

lotocotisays:
May 12, 2022 at 8:15 am
Here’s hoping the evil inherent in Ruski urea causes the blue couch to launch an unprovoked special military operation against some carpet grass on the footpath.

From my Greek Australian Guy who has mown our lawns for over 20 years (he takes 1 hr for what used to take me 2 1/2 Hrs and it looks much better)

I have a competition to see how fast I can pay his email invoice – best effort 4 1/2 Mins – last night 3 hours as I was reading a book when email invoice came in.

Anyway he mowed yesterday in the rain and said

I thought the trampoline was gone for good but it’s back!

I also don’t like wet couch.

End of rant ?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 8:52 am

Amusing country shopper stories.

Balding, Bearded ‘Minor’ Migrant Drug Dealer Revealed To Be Adult (11 May)

The man, a Moroccan national, had claimed to be just 17-years-old despite sporting a beard and appearing to be partially balding, but a medical forensic examination of his bones and teeth confirmed that he was lying about his age to French authorities.

Teenagers in the Middle East go bald so early these days.

Six Migrants All Claim To Be Father of Same Child To Obtain French Residency (11 May)

Six migrant men from the Ivory Coast have all claimed to be the father of one child in the northern French department of Manche in order that they would each be able to claim residency in France.

Wokerati gush about having two mothers, but that’s nothing on being sired by six fathers.

calli
calli
May 12, 2022 8:53 am

Lizzie, there’s a train Colchester to Liverpool Street every 15 minutes, according to my Rome to Rio travel app (highly recommended). AUD45 one way max.

You might be being ripped off. An early booking could help rather than the ticket office on the day. I hate throwing away good spending money!

shatterzzz
May 12, 2022 8:58 am

You might be being ripped off. An early booking could help rather than the ticket office on the day. I hate throwing away good spending money!

I found that on my trip home in 2016 .. most of the fares/entries I pre-paid/booked online before I left were around a quarter of the day to day prices once I got there …..

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 8:58 am

From Jo Nova

Wow. Wow. Wow. Watch JetSuit Mountaineering — 2,200 foot climb in 3 minutes

Everyone is going to want one of these. And he’d only six lessons!We proved you can scale a Lake District Mountain (3100ft Helveylln) in 3mins 30 seconds, despite very poor visibility that would have grounded a HEMS Helicopter. The Mountain Rescue foot response is over 70 minutes typically. The route was 1.2 miles and 2200ft of height gain.

The Gravity Team, based in the UK, have delivered over 100 flight & Speaking events across 30 countries including 5 TED talks.

The Gravity #JetSuit uses over 1000bhp of Jet Engine power.

A pioneering British jet suit company is giving super-human powers to the response of emergency services … Jamie Walsh, a Great North Air Ambulance (GNAAS) paramedic, is the first of three trainees to fly the Gravity Industries Jet Suit in the steep hills of the Lake District, after just 6 lessons.

The 3D printed suit consists of two small turbines attached to each arm and a larger one mounted on the back. It can reach speeds in excess of 80 mph and is technically capable of reaching an altitude of 12,000 feet but for safety reasons is flown much lower.

calli
calli
May 12, 2022 8:58 am

It appears “Long Covid” is the thing to be feared now that the disease itself isn’t doing much.

Sounds suspiciously like post viral syndrome (which I have had) but of course it must have a sexy new name. Unfortunately time is the cure, aided by lifestyle tweaks.

Also, much…much fear mongering yesterday about heart disease brought on by Covid. As the worst affected were the already sick and obese, I am not particularly surprised.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 8:59 am

You get the feeling your disgust towards the Lieborals can never reach James Allan’s.

From where I stand he’s an optimist.

The trouble with his prescription for reform of the Liberal Party is that with the material they have to work with in opposition we’re much more likely to get Boris Johnson than Donald Trump.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 9:05 am

Boris certainly was the false messiah.

shatterzzz
May 12, 2022 9:05 am

Amusing country shopper stories.
More amazed they weren’t believed! .. French system must be a bit more efficient than in Oz .. LOL!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 12, 2022 9:05 am

Federal election 2022: Labor walks back plan to increase paid parental leave to 26 weeks
Annabel Hennessy
The West Australian
Thu, 12 May 2022 2:00AM
Comments
Annabel Hennessy
Labor is walking backwards from a “goal” to increase paid parental leave, with the party arguing “there isn’t room for every good idea” given Australia’s trillion-dollar debt.

Last year in its national platform document, the ALP said its goal was to increase paid parental leave to 26 weeks at “full pay” to better “support for parents and promote equal parenting”.

The current scheme only offers 20 weeks paid at minimum wage.

At the time, Anthony Albanese said the national platform goal was something a future Labor government would “move to over a period of time” and “consult on the timing of”.

But when asked by The West Australian yesterday a party spokesperson confirmed the national platform pledge was not an official policy it was taking to the 2022 election.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 9:07 am

Turned out the road to Damascus was paved with green pussy.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 9:07 am

Rich people now vote left more than right. Clinton and Biden took nearly all of the hundred wealthiest districts in the US. Boris can’t win in the posh inner cities. The Liberal party cannot hold these seats long term. Our voting system slows down the trend but it won’t stop it. The winning conservative coalition is the one Trump and Boris put together – small business types, the lower-middle and working class, outer suburbs, despisers of woke stupidity, and those not in thrall to the climate alarmists.

Has James Allan been reading NewCat?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 9:07 am

callisays:
May 12, 2022 at 8:53 am
Lizzie, there’s a train Colchester to Liverpool Street every 15 minutes, according to my Rome to Rio travel app (highly recommended). AUD45 one way max.

We used Rome to Rio for Private Driver bookings on last trip late 2018, to London-Sarlat via train, then back to London and down to Athens for Azamara Cruise from Athens around Greek Isles, Montenegro to Venice

Got private drivers in London, France, Athens, and when we stopped on Greek Islands and wanted to do our own thing. got driver from rome2rio – excellent much cheaper than taxis

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 12, 2022 9:11 am

That’s because the shallowest are the majority who watch MAFS or some such crap and think its real.

Harsh!
I’d hazard a guess that the average MAFS participant or viewer won’t be voting Teal. They’d be classified as rich stuck up bitches.

shatterzzz
May 12, 2022 9:12 am

I believe good government can change people’s lives for the better. Good government can help people build their dreams and aspirations

He’ll nee dto give-away “free” copious amounts of whatever he’s been smoking to get thatone across ..!
He lost me at .. good government .. LOL!

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 12, 2022 9:17 am

50th USA state of Hawaii sees push to “take it back”.

Could money be behind this?

ABC – of course.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 9:19 am

John Howard’s “broad church” analogy/vision was a fatal error.

As anyone familiar with ecclesiastical history knows, broad churches dilute their message over time to accomodate the broad centre and anyone with any strong convictions is eventually either excluded or leaves.

We’re seeing exactly that in the present day Liberal Party.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 12, 2022 9:21 am

TE, maybe the native Hawaiians can cosy up to the CCP?

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 12, 2022 9:22 am

OldOzzie, go here – more personal and other flight vehicles than you can poke a stick at. Some of the rest of the site is interesting too, just ignore the sustainobabble.

https://evtol.news/aircraft

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 9:22 am

In a nutshell, Conquest’s 2nd Law of Politics:

‘Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.’

Vicki
Vicki
May 12, 2022 9:27 am

I missed the James Allan article – where was it?

I generally support most of his political sentiments . Except for his decision to be vaccinated in order to travel OS. Very disappointing. We needed prominent support on this issue.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 9:28 am

Also, much…much fear mongering yesterday about heart disease brought on by Covid.

Weaning epidemiologists off scare narratives is more difficult than giving up cigarettes.

Frank
Frank
May 12, 2022 9:31 am

Courtesy of Ed Driscoll, if all the war and doom and gloom is too much sometimes. Madonna has decided to sell X rated digital scans of herself as NFTs. Three versions exist: giving birth to a tree, farting out butterflies and giving birth to a bunch of metal centipedes. The demented old biddies voiceovers are a hoot.

NSFW.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 9:35 am

I missed the James Allan article – where was it?

One of his Spectator columns. See “Older comments”.

calli
calli
May 12, 2022 9:36 am

Yes Roger. They’re as addicted to exposure and notoriety as any second rate celebrity. Or WAG for that matter.

And they keep trotting out new faces…there must be hives swirling with them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 9:36 am

TE, maybe the native Hawaiians can cosy up to the CCP?

Hawaii is a lefty demesne which routinely has the highest electricity prices in the US. If the Chinese take over they’d build a coal fired power station and make electricity affordable.

cohenite
May 12, 2022 9:37 am

Top Endersays:
May 12, 2022 at 3:32 am
Speaking of panels solar, very witty writing at Quadrant:

The Riddle of Ms Spender’s Absent Solar Panels

Yep, we’re rooted. Not idiots, but self absorbed chunkers who do not deal in reality and think their self indulgent virtues will not impact on them, will oversee the imminent and rapid collapse. Afterwards cognitive dissonance should be branded on their stunned craniums.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 12, 2022 9:37 am

H B Bearsays:
May 12, 2022 at 8:50 am
That’s because the shallowest are the majority who watch MAFS or some such crap and think its real.

You could argue Kochie gave us KRuddy.

My missus said that years ago when she saw Sloppy Joe being all matey with Krudd. Seem to recall they went to Kokoda together, very much doubt they walked it though. Neither had the energy. How the SFL thought Joe and Krudd together was a good idea, heaven knows, but I guess that’s why their the SFL.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 9:37 am

Madonna has decided to sell X rated digital scans of herself as NFTs

Madge’s vag

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 9:42 am

And they keep trotting out new faces…

I read somewhere that Raina MacIntyre, who was so popular last year that she had her portait entered in the Archies, had some sort of crisis and retreated from the public space because she was…criticised.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2022 9:43 am

Kneel at 8.42:

frankly anyone like you who thinks they know enough about mine to direct my choices is an arrogant fuckwit who is no better than the GovCo arseholes that stole my rights

*thunderous applause*

and if that person, like you, declares themselves to be “fiercely independent” then they are worse than those who stole my rights, because they are not only arrogant, but a hypocrite, reserving “independence” for themselves only while demanding others obey them.

*standing ovation*

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 12, 2022 9:47 am

Defence case will rest on character of Chris Dawson

Murder accused Chris Dawson had no past criminal convictions and was expected to make a case that he was of good character, a court has been told.

The trial of Mr Dawson for his wife Lynette’s alleged murder 40 years ago resumed on Wednesday, with about 45 minutes of legal argument before being adjourned until Monday.

The couple’s former neighbour Julie Andrew is then due to be the first witness to give evidence, the court was told.

Lynette’s sister Pat Jenkins will be the second witness and will give evidence from a police station via an audiovisual link.

It had been anticipated pre-trial legal arguments could last for up to two weeks. However, with no jury to consider, much of the advance legal argument was no longer necessary, with trial judge Ian Harrison SC able to deal with some of the issues later.

The prosecution, defence and judge all said the trial would be substantially shorter than if it was being heard before a jury. Justice Harrison said he was “anxious” for the main body of the trial to begin.

“The court is ready to hear the case now. I want to make that clear,” Justice Harrison said.

Mr Everson told the court that Mr Dawson had no past criminal convictions and the crown expected he “may wish to call a case about his good character”.

Documents previously provided to the judge included “most if not all of the evidence that the crown would seek to call to rebut that”.

The prosecutor also raised in court that “at least one significant witness has had members of the fifth estate attending her premises”.

Justice Harrison corrected that the news media was the fourth estate. “We don’t need a fifth estate,” the judge quipped.

The court was told the crown was seeking an order from the judge that any person who may be a witness after being issued a subpoena should not be there to hear the evidence of other witnesses.

This would extend to a ban of those potential witnesses viewing the trial through an online link provided to media and family members.

Seven family members who were “non participants” had asked to view the trial remotely. No objections were raised, clearing the way.

Some 76 paragraphs of agreed facts were close to being finalised, the court was told.

The trial began on Monday and was adjourned until Wednesday.

It gave Justice Harrison, who is hearing the case without a jury after Mr Dawson was granted a judge-alone trial, time to read some of the vast volumes of written material that will be provided throughout proceedings.

TV news crews started arriving at the court just after 8am.

Mr Dawson, a former teacher and star footballer with the Newtown Jets, arrived just before 9am with his brother, Peter.

The trial is being held in courtroom 9D of the Law Courts Building at Queens Square, Sydney.

Journalists and a few members of the public attended the first day of the trial, when the prosecutor, Mr Everson, delivered his opening address outlining key elements of the case against Mr Dawson, 73.

This included a first day bombshell that Mr Dawson was alleged to have approached a former Newtown teammate on a plane and asked for help to get rid of his wife, six years before Lynette vanished.

On Wednesday, Day 3, the seats in the back of the courtroom for the public were full, with about 15 people there to observe proceedings.

Lyn Dawson was 33 when she disappeared from Sydney’s northern beaches in January 1982, leaving behind two daughters, then aged four and two.

The defence and prosecution had been preparing for legal arguments over whether certain evidence could be included in the trial and used as “tendency evidence” – or evidence that could be used to prove Mr Dawson had a tendency to act in a certain way.

However Justice Harrison said all of it was arguably admissible on other grounds.

The judge cited as an example a bruise being observed on Lynette before her disappearance.

He said it would be a “piece of plain evidence” that would be admissible even if it wasn’t used as tendency evidence. Whether the evidence was strongly probative or otherwise was a separate issue.

Mr Everson agreed that in a judge-alone trial it was not necessary to have the argument in advance of witnesses giving evidence.

“It’s a classic piece of circumstantial evidence in the analogy of a strand in a cable,” Mr Everson said.

Effectively, the judge wants to hear the evidence first and decide its value and permitted use later.

Mr Everson said the credibility of JC would be an issue in the case. JC is expected to give evidence that towards the end of the school year in 1981, Mr Dawson drove her to a pub or club.

When he returned from inside the premises he allegedly told her he contemplated getting a hit man, but decided against it because innocent people would be hurt.

Mr Everson said a similar event six years earlier, when Mr Dawson allegedly asked former teammate Robert Silkman to help get rid of his wife, could support her credibility.

Mr Silkman’s evidence was of “significant probative value” and shone “rays of light on the ultimate issue in the case”, Mr Everson said.

Justice Harrison said before the pandemic the perceived view of the legal profession was that receiving evidence via audiovisual link was “less than optimum”.

One reason was the perception of a disadvantage in being unable to assess the body language and credibility of a witness who was not in the full view of everyone in court.

Times had changed and for more than two years the court had operated through the pandemic, more often than not taking evidence from witnesses in remote locations.

This had blunted objections to the practice, and concerns had been largely alleviated.

Mr Dawson’s barrister Pauline David told the court on Monday she had received the brief of evidence in April and was still going through its 11,000 pages and a vast array of other material.

Oz

calli
calli
May 12, 2022 9:52 am

Lol. I presume the Dem’s KKK is now off the hook as “most extreme”?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 9:53 am

Madge’s vag

It’s an aging lady muso thing, since Brittany Spears has been doing the same lately. She seems to’ve become more uninhibited since she won back control of her finances.

Panicked Britney Spears Fans Beg Star to Stop After She Posts Several Nudes (10 May)

Struth
May 12, 2022 9:54 am

So what people are saying about struth is that he’s wasting his time screaming hysterical abuse at people for things that can’t be changed, failing to make any feasible suggestions as to what should be done now (other than about voting, on which people here pretty much all agree anyway), and alienating people who in fact largely agree with him and might be persuaded to take his advice if he had any plausible advice to give.

The suggestions are numerous.

Like get fucked.

Kneel, however bad you thought it was, making you comply, you made things worse.
Don’t blame everyone else.
Here’s a tip.
When you stand at the pearly gates and St Peter and you are looking at your life, everybody else won’t be being judged, you will be.
“They were all doing it” doesn’t cut it in a Christian, individual responsibility world, something that until this happened many now confirmed hypocrites of this blog, declared themselves aligned to.
Until it was put to the test.
Immediate fail.

I point out the obvious, as again seen with the excited way denialists latch onto Monty, again subject matter then being able to be talked about that isn’t the most important stuff they wish to ignore, and all sideline theatre garbage.

Secondly, this “it’s all done and dusted approach ” so what struth is banging on about is over…history can’t be changed, is at best naive and ignorant, and at worst, complicit.
So you’ll still have to confront the choices you ran away from by getting the jab.
You just fucked up two years and entrenched tyrannical power in doing so.

Then immediately after this comment was made in comes the wicked witch of the green tick jet-set, telling all there’s no moral issue or problem with participating in apartheid against those holding the line for freedom, because according to her convenient new set of values, joining in and being a good Nazi, is all about freedom to choose!!

There is mental sickness here is born of self excuse.
Trying to twist the truth regarding their own piss poor performance in the civic and moral responsibility arena, all sorts of insanities get put forward.

My point.
Accept what you have done because this is not over, and until you get back to reality, you are lost to evil, and excuse it, and as this blog proves, deny it’s existence and stick your head in the Ukraine or Monty sands.
And while that’s the case, you are SFA use to your loved ones, your country or your fellow man.
The enemy is on our shores, in our parliaments and swamps, not in Russia.
And Monty coming in all of a sudden to keep you talking about irrelevences WHILE THAT IS THE CASE……and you all fall for it, proves my point.

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2022 9:56 am

rosie says:
May 12, 2022 at 5:42 am

Matrix is the consistent winner of
‘Least valuable comment of the day award’
Monty or no Monty.

Matrix is pretty much spot on.

And then there’s this,

rosie says:
May 11, 2022 at 9:05 pm

Timothy
You left off
Were perfectly entitled to get vaccinated for any reason they saw fit.
And to go anywhere and do anything at any time as they liked.
Because freedom.

Hypocrite.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 12, 2022 10:02 am

Madonna has decided to sell X rated digital scans of herself as NFTs.
Monroe standing over the steam vent suddenly seems so wholesome… but it looks like the slippery slope of whoring for fame has plunged us into timewave zero where it’s only a matter of days before some bint goes from trending, to oversharing, to flashing, and somehow buy themselves enduring political credibility as they go.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 10:05 am

Joe Biden Labels Donald Trump “The Great MAGA King”

We’ve gone from Deplorable, to MAGA, to Ultra MAGA and now The GREAT MAGA.

We shall celebrate our latest elevation with the dance of The Great MAGA King below:

Megan
Megan
May 12, 2022 10:06 am

Matrix is pretty much spot on.

In any such competition MT would be at least several galaxies distant in the original comment writer’s rear view mirror.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2022 10:07 am

The suggestions are numerous.
Like get fucked.

You should run for Parliament, St. Ruth.

You wouldn’t need a party behind you and paying for it. Not with your strength of conviction. You could easily, easily run and win as an independent – what with the millions of Australians behind you. You’d have a much bigger stage to call for fighting, rebellion and non-submission.

Your soaring oratory would captivate the nation. Seriously, I don’t know why you’ve tried piggybacking on existing parties when – clearly and obviously – you have the mandate of the masses.

rosie
rosie
May 12, 2022 10:08 am

Where’s the hypocrisy?
I never told anyone else what to do.
And as I’ve pointed out many times before I’m not responsible for the pre-existing state of emergency powers or how government chose to wield them.
I’ve also said the only rational option is to vote for parties who will abolish SOE ie liberal democrats.
Something I’ve been consistent about since 2020.
BTW it appears matrix got vaxxed for financial considerations.
So brave.

rosie
rosie
May 12, 2022 10:11 am

I see the ridiculous how dare you be ‘wealthy’ and travel hypocrite is chiming in.

cohenite
May 12, 2022 10:12 am

This:

Look, I differ from most of my fellow Speccie writers in believing that no long-term good comes from rewarding a political party that positions itself a centimetre to the right of Labor. Over time the Libs do the work of Labor, it’s just a bit slower. Frau Merkel proved this in Germany. I believe we need a circuit breaker. It would have been better to have it six years ago. But now is better than later.

I don’t subscribe to the view that the LNP have to be booted out so they can rediscover their true conservative roots. I don’t because it doesn’t work. The LNP has never got more conservative when in opposition – Fraser for instance, a wet streak of shit and Abbott failed to capitalise and eventually gave rise to turdball – and today when the left gets in the damage they do is irreversible; look at that POS biden; and rub and tug will be the same. This little bastard is a true commie: bandt and the filth will be up him like rats up a drainpipe; and rub and tug will be smiling all the way. I believe, just as with biden, there will be no coming back from rub and tug.

The only solution is to either join the LNP and change it from the inside and support the true conservatives in the LNP; while trying to unify the true conservative minor parties. A tall task; but anything else is pissing in the wind.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 12, 2022 10:13 am

Off to the Lib Dems seat campaign launch tonight. Can’t find a +1 anywhere amongst my scaly mates, so it’s just on my Pat. A few mids, see who else is out there in the southwest Busso-Duns-MR dress circle.
I get the impression that we’ll be Teal within a generation here. Our state member was one of the few who held on when every other Lib was defenestrated a while back, and the federal sitting member is playing a dead hand for this one. There’s a massive lack of anything which even remotely resembles a town hall or village commons meet-n-greet… even the Lib Dems candidate is from out of town, and from emails, genreally clueless and carrying tickets for himself.

rosie
rosie
May 12, 2022 10:14 am

I continue to be bemused by the all Victorians secretly want to live in Queensland for the fabulous weather meme.
Another windy and wet day with no forecast let up til next week.
No wonder six and half million people continue to call Victoria home

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 10:15 am

Prince Harry saves the world again.

Stop Using So Many Towels, Urges Prince Harry (11 May)

I can’t give an excerpt since the original story is paywalled, and Paul Homewood only has a text screenshot. Harry Markle seems to be visiting Kiwiland to advocate for green tourism or something.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 12, 2022 10:17 am

Cohenite-
Have you got enough good years in you to get with the Lib Dems and build it up from grass roots? Their constitution is a bit of a worry- and their lead senate candidate here is trying to cruise on the counterculture zeitgeist, which I reckon is a badly judged tactic- but I reckon their core beliefs should be a uniting point for, for instance, heapsa Cats.

rosie
rosie
May 12, 2022 10:18 am

Incidentally getting vaccinated isn’t a ‘moral’ issue that determines the validity of anyone’s faith. .
It’s fascinating that people with nothing to say about actual moral issues insist that it is.

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2022 10:24 am

I never told anyone else what to do.

No.
You’ve only told us what you would accept.

And as I’ve pointed out many times before I’m not responsible for the pre-existing state of emergency powers or how government chose to wield them.

The tacit acceptance of which became very clear.

BTW it appears matrix got vaxxed for financial considerations.
So brave.

Should read “BTW it appears Matrix was forced to get vaxxed for financial considerations.

cohenite
May 12, 2022 10:24 am

Have you got enough good years in you to get with the Lib Dems and build it up from grass roots?

I can’t convert anyone. I try to speak rationally and when there’s a leftie response I default to a hearty fuck off. It’s a character fault I know and the self recognition of same has stopped me from entering politics although I did help start TCS, which, along with my ex-wife, has been the disappointment of my life. Politics is not a rational pastime. Australian punters are very conservative with a big dollop of government trough itis. Rub and tug will cruise now he has stumbled onto the 5/5% pay increase. Scomo missed his chance when he dropped the lump of coal and went to Paris and touched elbos with that UN sack of shit.

Indolent
Indolent
May 12, 2022 10:27 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 12, 2022 10:34 am

Overseas exposure of SAS witnesses sparks YouTube blackout

Stephen Rice
NSW EDITOR
@riceyontheroad
23 minutes ago May 12, 2022

The Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case has been banned from the Federal Court’s YouTube channel after it was revealed unidentified foreign individuals have been using the videos to identify secret SAS witnesses ­appearing in the trial.

The YouTube version of the trial, which has usually been available on delay the day after proceedings, but sometimes edited for national security reasons, will no longer be available, following a ruling by the Federal Court issued late on Wednesday.

The ban came after the commonwealth became aware that “persons located outside of Australia” were using the videos to analyse information from different sources to then publish ­information which identifies ­Special Operations Command (SOCOMD) members and other “sensitive witnesses”.

That information included their names and initials.

Many witnesses in the trial are current or former SOCOMD members whose identity has been suppressed for national security reasons. Evidence of the breach of secrecy had been revealed in closed court, judge Anthony ­Besanko said, as he issued new ­orders to protect witnesses.

“It is not appropriate that I refer to that material in these ­reasons as that will have the effect of drawing attention to it,” he said. “Action against a person to correct the situation is made difficult, if not impossible, where the person is located outside of Australia.”

The move to ban the YouTube videos was supported by lawyers for Mr Roberts-Smith, who ­argued that anything that made it easier for witnesses to be intimidated should be carefully considered. The application was opposed by Nine newspapers, which ­argued the importance of “open justice” and suggested that geo-blocking the material was a possible option.

However, Justice Besanko said geo-blocking could easily be circumvented by the use of a virtual private network, which was a widely available commercial ­service. Justice Besanko found the requirements of open justice were satisfied without the facility of the YouTube channel. Members of the public would still be able to go into the court building and view and listen to the proceedings in a room set aside for that purpose.

But unlike those watching via the YouTube channel, “they are all within the court’s jurisdiction and subject to the court’s processes”, Justice Besanko said.

The parties, witnesses and lawyers in the defamation case appear in person in court, but the courtroom is not open to members of the public to guard against inadvertent disclosure of national ­security information.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
May 12, 2022 10:44 am

Interesting, Joe Manchin Questions DIA Berrier and DNI Haines About Whether Ukraine Can Win, DIA Confirms We are in a Proxy War With Russia

May 11, 2022 – Sundance

The next Democrat and Lincoln Project presidential candidate for ¹2024, Joe Manchin, questions Defense Intel Agency (DIA) Director Lt. Gen. Scott Berrier and Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Avril Haines about whether Ukraine can actually win the current war with Russia. It’s an interesting exchange because none of the DeceptiCon senators will usually approach the issue.

Lt General Scott Berrier (DIA) says [00:56], “that is a difficult predication to make. I think where the [DIA assessment] is at is a prolonged stalemate should no factor change on either side. In other words, the Russians continue to do what they’re doing, and we continue to do what we are doing for the Ukranians.” Read that emphasis carefully.

What Berrier is saying is affirming we are in a direct proxy war. So long as the United States remains the essential fighting force behind the Ukrainian military, they can achieve a stalemate. However, if the United States withdraws support, Russia will win. DIA Berrier is saying directly the U.S. can only achieve a stalemate in Ukraine. WATCH:

Cassie of Sydney
May 12, 2022 10:45 am

Faaaaaaaaaaaark, this is Liberals in 2022 with scum like Kean and Sharma. These are not the words of a centre-right party…..


“Matt Kean fears teals to turn Libs into ‘Trump, Putin sympathisers’

NSW Treasurer Matt Kean has warned teal independent candidates may see the Liberal party lurch further to the right if certain coalition MPs are ousted this election.

NSW Treasurer Matt Kean has warned the Teal wave threatening to wipe out progressive Liberals could result in their party lurching to the right and becoming the party of “Trump … Putin sympathisers and anti-vaxxers”.

Standing next to embattled Wentworth MP Dave Sharma, who is fighting to retain his seat against Climate 200 candidate Allegra Spender, Mr Kean said the Liberal Party could move to the far right – citing the Republican Party in the United States – if party candidates like Jason Falinski, Dave Sharma and Trent Zimmerman were turfed out by their Teal opponents.

“We’ve seen the impact of what happens when the centre right parties lose moderate voices. Look at the Republican Party, the party of Lincoln, the party that abolished slavery, has now become the party of Trump, the party of Putin sympathisers and anti-vaxxers,” he said.

“That’s not in the Liberal Party’s interest and that’s why we need strong voices like (Liberal MPs) Dave Sharma, Trent Zimmerman and Jason Falinski in the Liberal party room to make sure the Liberal Party remains reflective of the communities that we’re hoping to serve.”

Mr Kean’s comments come as Liberals in once-blue ribbon seats come under intense pressure from Climate 200 candidates running in their electorates on a platform backing action on climate change.

Mr Sharma also defended the NSW Treasurer for his comments last month calling for Liberal candidate for Warringah Katherine Deves to resign in the wake of her controversial comments about transgender people.

Mr Kean was forced to deny he was “white-anting” the federal election campaign in the wake of the comments, as fears were raised that Ms Deves could hurt the Liberals in socially-progressive seats like Mr Sharma’s.

“I think he (Mr Kean) reflected an important point of principle that the comments that she made about transgender people were unacceptable to anyone of principle and morals,” Mr Sharma said.

“I think she was right to withdraw them that and others including myself were right to condemn them.”

Mr Sharma conceded “there is always going to be some internal tension” as he claimed the Liberal Party had a wide range of perspectives.

“But the alternative is, if you lose the full spectrum of voices within a party you seek to say the legitimacy to speak on behalf of all Australians, and that’s what I don’t want to see at this election.” “That’s why I’m fighting so hard to retain,” he said.

A few points for Sharma…

1. You don’t speak for me when it comes to “her comments about transgender people were unacceptable to anyone of principle and morals”. I stand with Katherine Deves. Nothing and I reiterate nothing that Deves has ever said is “unacceptable”.

2. The above drivel from Kean and Sharma confirms James Allen’s Speccie piece. Why vote for progressive scum like this?

3. Karma’s coming for you Sharma.

Delta A
Delta A
May 12, 2022 10:49 am

Karma’s coming for you Sharma.

Oh, that’s sooo good, Cassie.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 12, 2022 10:50 am

callisays:

May 12, 2022 at 8:53 am

Lizzie, there’s a train Colchester to Liverpool Street every 15 minutes

Now it’s trains vs trains.

Speedbox
May 12, 2022 10:51 am

Indolent says:
May 12, 2022 at 10:27 am

I’m not on Twitter so had a scroll through those. Surely somebody is taking the piss. Do people actually believe that stuff?

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 10:52 am

Have you got enough good years in you to get with the Lib Dems and build it up from grass roots?

Lib Dems and grass roots, these things do not go together.

There is no room for the Lib Dems. The Teals are now the Liberal left faction, and the LNP after the election will be almost wholly comprised of their existing right faction. Where do the LDs fit in that? Somewhere between PHON and the LNP? There’s only a poofteenth of room to squeeze into there.

Cassie of Sydney
May 12, 2022 10:54 am

“The Teals are now the Liberal left faction”

Bulldust and you know it’s bulldust. When you come here do try and be an adult and not some adolescent.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 12, 2022 10:54 am

We’re going to need a lot more Mental Health Services when the blackouts get going in earnest – when the next couple of coal-fired power stations get shitcanned.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2022 10:54 am

Lib Dems and grass roots, these things do not go together.

Ah yes monty, Team Teal is as grass roots as the estate of Robert Holmes a Court.

Like having a private golf course on a manor you own. Lots of Bermuda and couch.

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2022 10:55 am

Now it’s trains vs trains.

It would devolve to a gauges argument and no one wants that.

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 10:58 am

Bulldust and you know it’s bulldust. When you come here do try and be an adult and not some adolescent.

You can tell that the Teals are actually Liberal wets, because you lot hate them so much.

I don’t trust single-seat polls. Daniel and Ryan are still pushing it uphill.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2022 10:59 am

timewave zero

Another Terrence McKenna fan!

Modern physics is catching up to his ideas.

Anchor What
Anchor What
May 12, 2022 11:00 am

It’s deves versus Deves.

Cassie of Sydney
May 12, 2022 11:00 am

“You can tell that the Teals are actually Liberal wets, because you lot hate them so much.”

More rubbish.

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 11:01 am

Ah yes monty, Team Teal is as grass roots as the estate of Robert Holmes a Court.

Fully agreed on that point, Dot. The Teals are not lilywhite grass roots candidates, with HaC money behind them. Then again, neither are Liberal wets as a rule.

The LNP only has itself to blame for shutting out small-l liberal women from their old mates club. These women have found a vehicle with a few bucks behind it. That’s politics.

Vicki
Vicki
May 12, 2022 11:01 am

Bear – thanks for info re James Allan article.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 12, 2022 11:04 am

m0ntysays:
May 12, 2022 at 11:01 am
Ah yes monty, Team Teal is as grass roots as the estate of Robert Holmes a Court.

Fully agreed on that point, Dot. The Teals are not lilywhite grass roots candidates, with HaC money behind them. Then again, neither are Liberal wets as a rule.

The LNP only has itself to blame for shutting out small-l liberal women from their old mates club. These women have found a vehicle with a few bucks behind it. That’s politics.

Credit where credit is due. That said munty, why don’t you apply the same level of substance to just about everything else you scribble.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 12, 2022 11:05 am

Off to the Library again to find the Webley.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 12, 2022 11:10 am

The Ben Roberts-Smith defamation case has been banned from the Federal Court’s YouTube channel
Ah well, there’s still Depp v Heard.
… and U.S. v Maxwell has been deep-six’d. Funny how there apperas to be nothing, nada, zilch, not even a racey airport softmax based on testimony from “sources close to the Epsteins”, “disgruntled former employees”, and “now-rebuffed school chum friend”.
…it’s almost like the reading public don’t want to know the names of the trafficked or the identities of the clients.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 12, 2022 11:11 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
May 12, 2022 at 10:15 am
Prince Harry saves the world again.

Stop Using So Many Towels, Urges Prince Harry (11 May)

I can’t give an excerpt since the original story is paywalled, and Paul Homewood only has a text screenshot. Harry Markle seems to be visiting Kiwiland to advocate for green tourism or something.

How are we going to get to the Restaurant if we loose our towel? Its a long way.

Vicki
Vicki
May 12, 2022 11:16 am

Incidentally – comment by James Allan that the well off no longer vote conservative in the western world is certainly what I see in my city domicile (North Sydney electorate). While some are hanging on to their Liberal background, while holding their nose at having Trent Zimmerman as local MP, others are turning to the Greens or Teal Independents. Still others are Chardonnay socialists, as we used to call them.

Why? Boomers suffer some sort of guilt complex helped by universal condemnation of their comparative wealth. Post boomers & Millennials have been the victim of the Long March of the Marxists & globalists through the education institutions. We are watching, helplessly, the transformation – indeed the disintegration – of western society.

However, as a qualification of these observations – at the massive Canberra anti-vax rally I observed well over 100,000 people who were predominantly working class families accompanied by kids (& even dogs) protesting against the loss of their personal choice &hence, loss of the freedom they thought their government protected. But what chance do they have ……..????

Frank
Frank
May 12, 2022 11:19 am

Didn’t Monty tell us yesterday that he is too busy to spend time here with all of his super serious commitments before putting in a twelve hour stretch. Why yes, yes he did.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 12, 2022 11:20 am

Ken Worth standing at the Pearly Gates, St Peter asks him what he has done to justify entry? Well I saved Austr..a..l. , Just a moment says St Peter, I have to put my earplugs in.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 11:36 am

Matt Kean fears teals to turn Libs into ‘Trump, Putin sympathisers’

New disease sweeping through the Liberal Party: teal envy.

They can be dispelled by waving a crucifix in front of them, or a lump of coal.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 12, 2022 11:37 am

The LNP only has itself to blame for shutting out small-l liberal women from their old mates club. These women have found a vehicle with a few bucks behind it. That’s politics.

The small-l girls would destroy the joint if allowed.
They’re not as mad as the greens but share their total disconnection with the nuts and bolts drivers of a robust economy, and that’s not tourism by the way.
On the same basis we should be having a medical/health lead recovery considering the obscene sums thrown into this unsatisfiable pit. Services don’t match production.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 11:40 am

… you lot …

That didn’t take long. Fuckwit.

jupes
jupes
May 12, 2022 11:40 am

Leon Cameron – Gawn!

First coach to fall for 2022. Who’s next?

P
P
May 12, 2022 11:41 am

Cardinal Zen’s Arrest Will Test the Vatican’s Agreement With Communist China
The bishop emeritus of Hong Kong was arrested with four others Wednesday for ‘collusion with foreign forces’ and has since been released on bail.
Edward Pentin – NCR – May 11, 2022

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 11:42 am

The small-l girls would destroy the joint if allowed.

D’you reckon giving women the vote was a mistake, Gez?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 11:45 am

“That’s not in the Liberal Party’s interest and that’s why we need strong voices like (Liberal MPs) Dave Sharma, Trent Zimmerman and Jason Falinski in the Liberal party room to make sure the Liberal Party remains reflective of the communities that we’re hoping to serve.”

Funnier than anything you will hear on the ALPBC.

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2022 11:48 am

Stop Using So Many Towels, Urges Prince Harry (11 May)

There go my hopes of hitchhiking around the galaxy.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
May 12, 2022 11:50 am

Courtesy of Ed Driscoll, if all the war and doom and gloom is too much sometimes. Madonna has decided to sell X rated digital scans of herself as NFTs. Three versions exist: giving birth to a tree, farting out butterflies and giving birth to a bunch of metal centipedes. The demented old biddies voiceovers are a hoot.

I hear that it pays well?

132andBush
132andBush
May 12, 2022 11:55 am

D’you reckon giving women the vote was a mistake, Gez?

Monty is Cathy Newman.

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 11:58 am

“That’s not in the Liberal Party’s interest and that’s why we need strong voices like (Liberal MPs) Dave Sharma, Trent Zimmerman and Jason Falinski in the Liberal party room to make sure the Liberal Party remains reflective of the communities that we’re hoping to serve.”

As I was saying…

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 12:02 pm

The problem with saying that the LNP need to abandon the leafy rich suburbs and focus on the working class is that the LNP is filled with rich bastards from the leafy suburbs who hate the working class and run policies designed to oppress them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 12:03 pm

munty

You can tell that the Teals are actually Liberal wets, because you lot hate them so much.

Pathetic, even by your miserable standards.

“Us lot” also hate the Slime and the Liars. Does that make them “Liberal wets”?

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 12:04 pm

Monty is Cathy Newman.

Yes, his trolling is as poor as his economics (and golf swing).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 12, 2022 12:04 pm

LNP is filled with rich bastards from the leafy suburbs who hate the working class

And the Labor Party is filled with those who wouldn’t know a member of the working class if they fell over one on the street?

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 12:05 pm

Matt Kean fears teals to turn Libs into ‘Trump, Putin sympathisers’…

While invoking Lincoln in the same sentence.

Too funny.

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 12:05 pm

You lot hate Labor and the Greens, of course, but what you really hate the most are the splitters in your own ranks. It’s the way of the world, has been like that since the days of Brian thousands of years ago.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 12, 2022 12:06 pm

mUnty is a class warrior in the Albo mode.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 12, 2022 12:06 pm

Mark McGowan’s ban on logging in native forests has claimed it’s first scalp – timber mill in Greenbushes – major employer in the town – closes down on Friday, with the loss of fifty jobs.

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2022 12:09 pm

Youlotto is back! Buy your tickets now! Drawn on 21 May!

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 12:10 pm

Vicki

However, as a qualification of these observations – at the massive Canberra anti-vax rally I observed well over 100,000 people who were predominantly working class families accompanied by kids (& even dogs) protesting against the loss of their personal choice &hence, loss of the freedom they thought their government protected. But what chance do they have ……..????

That number (100,000) almost certainly exceeds the current membership of the Lieborals, Liars and Slime individually, and might well exceed their collective membership. There is a vast constituency in Australia for a real socially conservative party. One Nation with Latham as federal leader could be a winner.

I respect Pauline H for what she has achieved in terms of awakening these people, but (for quite good reasons), she is not the leader that is needed. With her as an “elder stateswoman”, and Latham leading, ON could go far.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 12, 2022 12:10 pm

OldOzziesays:
May 12, 2022 at 10:05 am
Joe Biden Labels Donald Trump “The Great MAGA King”

We’ve gone from Deplorable, to MAGA, to Ultra MAGA and now The GREAT MAGA.

We shall celebrate our latest elevation with the dance of The Great MAGA King below:

You forgot to add your song, Old Ozzie!

I got you, mate. 😉

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2uRLJZxINAQ

#Shadilay

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
May 12, 2022 12:12 pm

You lot

There it is again!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2022 12:13 pm

Youlotto is back! Buy your tickets now! Drawn on 21 May!

Third prize: A lock of James Sicily’s hair
Second Prize: Covid
Grand Prize: Brunch with mUnter

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 12:14 pm

m0ntysays:
May 12, 2022 at 12:02 pm
The problem with saying that the LNP need to abandon the leafy rich suburbs and focus on the working class is that the LNP is filled with rich bastards from the leafy suburbs who hate the working class and run policies designed to oppress them.

Are you really that thick? Abandoning the leafy suburbs to the spawn of the Slime means also ditching that spawn. Starting with Turdballs.

Are you frightened that this will happen, forcing you to re-consider your rather parlous current political position?

Roger
Roger
May 12, 2022 12:16 pm

Mark McGowan’s ban on logging in native forests has claimed it’s first scalp – timber mill in Greenbushes – major employer in the town – closes down on Friday, with the loss of fifty jobs.

The Labor Party is now controlled by rich people in leafy suburbs who hate workers.

Say, maybe the workers need to find an alternative political voice?

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 12:16 pm

m0ntysays:
May 12, 2022 at 12:05 pm
You lot hate Labor and the Greens, of course, but what you really hate the most are the splitters in your own ranks.

Clearly munty is not familiar with the expression “Labor Rat”, much used by his beloved party.

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 12, 2022 12:17 pm

Researching our trip to the USA in Aus/Sep…delayed for two years now.

Anyone got advice, preferably from recent experience, as to travel insurance? Trip will be fly/drive in the main, and nothing out of the ordinary, in the eastern states. Neither of us have medical conditions.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 12:18 pm

Roger

The Labor Party is now controlled by rich people in leafy suburbs who hate workers.

Spawn of the Slime, but stop destroying munty’s lines.

cohenite
May 12, 2022 12:21 pm

The way I see it is if the LNP scrap over the line the fat little turd will scurry back to its vermin infested hole; if rub and tug gets up it will hang around like a dog turd.

jupes
jupes
May 12, 2022 12:21 pm

When will someone in the AFL call out (the player formerly known as) Harry O’Brien for the race grifter that he is? He’s claiming vindication by the ‘Do Better’ report that Collingwood was systemically racist. What a crock.

First of all, the ‘Do Better’ report was produced by professional race grifters, who Eddie McGuire foolishly hired to rebut those claims. Not being the sharpest tool in the shed, Eddie failed to realise that if you hire race grifters, they will find ‘racism’. Idiot.

Secondly, Harry has released an edited tape of a conversation he had with Nathan Buckley that he reckons proves racism. Really? All it had was Buckley telling O’Brien he had thrown McGuire “under the bus” (presumably for media comments about McGuire’s embarrassing “King Kong” comments) and accusing him of “going rogue”. Which he had.

That’s as racist as Jeff Kennett telling Mrs Rioli that her ripped jeans weren’t a good look. The only way any of that is ‘racist’ is if the definition of racism has changed to mean ‘criticism of a black person”.

What a stupid, stupid world we live in.

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 12, 2022 12:22 pm

Hahahahahahahahaha! All cryptos should be banned.

Mengqi Sun
@_MengqiSun
Coinbase is warning that its customers could be viewed as general unsecured creditors during bankruptcy proceedings: it suggested that the digital tokens it holds for its users might not really belong to them if push comes to shove
https://wsj.com/articles/coinbase-says-users-crypto-assets-lack-bankruptcy-protections-11652294103?st=kqstzc2yf9cyezm&reflink=desktopwebshare_twitter via
@WSJ

DaFisk
DaFisk
May 12, 2022 12:24 pm

Hmmmmm, pro-Russia/pro-China “national conservatives” have nothing to say about the Chinese Communist Party arresting a Cardinal!!

Isaac Schorr
@isaac_schorr
·
10h
I am intrigued by Adrian Vermeule. He’s a leading Catholic intellectual, and he has not yet commented on the arrest of a 90 year-old Chinese Cardinal by a genocidal regime this morning. He has, however, expressed his support for the Chinese takeout system. An interesting fellow!

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
May 12, 2022 12:25 pm

Twitter is mostly a cesspit but occasionally there are some gems like the World Bollard Association. I wonder why BMWs, Mercs and Audis seem to figure prominently in the videos.

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 12:25 pm

Has anyone taken a look at the Young Liberals lately? Not exactly filled with grime-stained tradies coming off a full day at a worksite. No, it’s all clean-shaven, barely pubescent hall monitors in starched white collars and black ties with the right school connections.

The contention that the LNP will become a party of the workers is a fool’s fantasy. And no, the Lib Dems and PHON aren’t the answer either. They’re full of low-level grifters and con artists.

Morrison is literally going to the election by running a scare campaign that the other mob will… lift worker wages. It’s like he wants to lose in a landslide.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
May 12, 2022 12:29 pm

TE, are you with Defence Health for your private health insurance? There’s very reasonably priced travel insurance available through them.

Kneel
Kneel
May 12, 2022 12:30 pm

“Don’t blame everyone else.
Here’s a tip.
When you stand at the pearly gates and St Peter and you are looking at your life, everybody else won’t be being judged, you will be.”

The only people I blame are the pollies and the public serpents supporting them when they stripped away my rights – rights that they were more than happy to sign our country up for, but that apparently can only be claimed by those with political connections, or some minority status as defined by those some grubs.

I am content to stand before God and let him judge me – I am most certainly a sinner, as we all are.
Since you are intent on trying to manipulate me based on Christianity, perhaps you would do well to recall: “He who is without sin – let him throw the first stone.” I suggest that, like me, you should walk away and not throw a stone. But that’s up to you – by all means throw away, if think you are without sin. Such hubris from you would not surprise me at all, nor many others here I should imagine.

Winston Smith
May 12, 2022 12:33 pm

Wally Dali:

Finland has an active military 12x smaller than UKR.
And 1/8 the population
with an economy based on lichen.

And reindeer – don’t forget the reindeer.

What do you have against reindeer?
Speciest!

Dot
Dot
May 12, 2022 12:34 pm

And no, the Lib Dems and PHON aren’t the answer either. They’re full of low-level grifters and con artists

No.

The LDP is effectively the opposition in Victoria.

jupes
jupes
May 12, 2022 12:34 pm

Has anyone taken a look at the Young Liberals lately?

No. Why on earth would we?

Struth
May 12, 2022 12:37 pm

The contention that the LNP will become a party of the workers is a fool’s fantasy. And no, the Lib Dems and PHON aren’t the answer either. They’re full of low-level grifters and con artists.

From a man of such principle and political insight.

Struth
May 12, 2022 12:38 pm

I see KD is still grappling with the concept that opposing tyranny doesn’t require “leaders”, it requires decency.

Old bloke
Old bloke
May 12, 2022 12:39 pm

Top Ender says:
May 12, 2022 at 12:17 pm

Researching our trip to the USA in Aus/Sep…delayed for two years now.

Anyone got advice, preferably from recent experience, as to travel insurance? Trip will be fly/drive in the main, and nothing out of the ordinary, in the eastern states. Neither of us have medical conditions.

Just remember to drive on the wrong side of the road.

Struth
May 12, 2022 12:40 pm

What TF has the Liberal party, a party at war with the Australian people, have to do with conservatism?

Struth
May 12, 2022 12:42 pm

Oh, and Kneel, Notafan said you were free to make a choice…
Everyone was free to make a choice, ask her.

Winston Smith
May 12, 2022 12:42 pm

Timothy Neilson:

Poor old m0nty. He’s been asked repeatedly, and failed every time, to explain:
(a) how he knows Australian wages are below equilibrium; and
(b) what C-suite/non-exec remuneration should be in Australia, and what objective metrics determine that.

This is what Monty does – makes assertions, refuses to back them up, continually stirs up dissent and then moves on.
A month or so later he returns with the same bullshit.
Rinse and repeat.
It’s deliberate and so many fall for it time after time after time.
The aim is to drive away thoughtful analysis and replace it with Montyshit.

cohenite
May 12, 2022 12:45 pm

Interesting pile; don’t know where it is.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2022 12:45 pm

When you stand at the pearly gates and St Peter and you are looking at your life, everybody else won’t be being judged, you will be.

It is abundantly clear that the barrel-stuffing baked goods aficionado has set himself up as St. Peter, aka Judgey McJudgerooni.

Chorus:

With a judge-judge here
And a judge-judge there
Here a-judge
There a-judge
Everywhere a judge-judge
There was a fat bloke had a boat
And now he fucking doesn’t

Real Deal
Real Deal
May 12, 2022 12:47 pm

Karma’s coming for you Sharma.

Oh, that’s sooo good, Cassie.

I’m with Delta on that, Cassie. Brilliant stuff. Keep it up!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 12, 2022 12:47 pm

m0nty says:
May 12, 2022 at 11:42 am
The small-l girls would destroy the joint if allowed.
D’you reckon giving women the vote was a mistake, Gez?

You’d be surprised but I always got along very well with women in various positions I’ve held.

I received a huge compliment from two ladies who wanted me back as chair because they said I always sought their opinion and never ignored them.

The Lycra joggers with money, time and axes to grind aren’t the basis for a political platform worth pursuing.

BTW
Where’s Ed gone now that you’re back?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 12, 2022 12:51 pm

I see KD is still grappling with the concept that opposing tyranny doesn’t require “leaders”, it requires decency.

And screeching judgement with extra cheese, apparently.

Why haven’t you run for Parliament and saved the nation, St. Ruth? Why not?

Is it because you are afeared that your assorted yellings wouldn’t garner a broader interest than, say, the average lunchtime customer load at Fantastic Furniture?

There must be a reason, seeing as how you strident you are in calling millions upon millions of people fuckwits.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 12, 2022 12:52 pm

No. Why on earth would we?

The old liberals are bad enough.

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 12:53 pm

The LDP is effectively the opposition in Victoria.

Hahahahahaha! Dan Andrews will be Premier for life!

Top Ender
Top Ender
May 12, 2022 1:00 pm

We’re with Navy Health, rugbyskier…

m0nty
m0nty
May 12, 2022 1:01 pm

Poor old m0nty. He’s been asked repeatedly, and failed every time, to explain:
(a) how he knows Australian wages are below equilibrium; and
(b) what C-suite/non-exec remuneration should be in Australia, and what objective metrics determine that.

Show me an economist who knows exactly what the wage equilibrium is in Australia right now, Tim N. You might as well show me a bunyip while you’re at it.

It’s a stupid point you raise, based on an unknowable variable with little to no political relevance. You can’t just say the sacred market did it thus we must bow to their infinite wisdom, especially when the inequalities are as stark as they are now. That way lies guillotines.

Someone upthread said that CEO pay had been flat for a few years, so last year’s 24% rise was just a catch up. Sure, why not, I’ll accept that. Accordingly, low-paid workers deserve a similar catch up on their flatlining wages. Fair’s fair.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 12, 2022 1:02 pm

Dan Andrews will be Premier for life!

Well he is called Dictator Dan. That’s what dictators do.

Boambee John
Boambee John
May 12, 2022 1:02 pm

m0ntysays:
May 12, 2022 at 12:25 pm
Has anyone taken a look at the Young Liberals lately? Not exactly filled with grime-stained tradies coming off a full day at a worksite. No, it’s all clean-shaven, barely pubescent hall monitors in starched white collars and black ties with the right school connections.

munty

You clearly have a reading comprehension problem, if you think that there is a vast level of support here for the Lieborals or their yoof wing. OTOH, have you taken a recent close look at the “barely pubescent hall monitors” who currently comprise the Liars advisers and yoof wing? There is a good reason many here refer to the two major political groups as the UNiParty.

The contention that the LNP will become a party of the workers is a fool’s fantasy. And no, the Lib Dems and PHON aren’t the answer either. They’re full of low-level grifters and con artists.

The contention that the Liars Party is still a party of the workers is a fool’s fantasy. They also are full of low-level grifters and con artists.

“US Lot” are ahead of you in that, unlike you, we see clearly the rottenness of all major Australian political groups.

Struth
May 12, 2022 1:04 pm

And screeching judgement with extra cheese, apparently

Screeching judgement….
Is that like being called a nanna killer for playing guitar in pubs?

Screeching judgement.
Is that like being called a conspiracy theorist for over a year everytime I mentioned the WEF?

Screeching judgement

For wanting to disobey orders and honout our war dead as we did each year being called a grifter and attention seeker and “using the diggers”
Making them “part of my politics” or some other hysterical bullshit…..

Wipe your chin, hypocrite.
Because it was in fact you, who started with the screeching judgement.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
May 12, 2022 1:06 pm

We’re with Navy Health, rugbyskier…

Check the website, they may have a similar deal to Defence Health, which uses Allianz for travel insurance for members.

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