1,433 thoughts on “Open Thread – Wed 22 June 2022”

  1. Blueysays:
    June 24, 2022 at 2:38 pm
    just to rub it in for those waiting on a passport, mine showed up today. Less than a month turnaround without paying the fee for prompt service.

    My son says his has been posted.


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  2. m0ntysays:
    June 24, 2022 at 12:48 pm
    .. time to give some respect to people like her who have a very different lived experience.

    I’ve plenty of time for a houso who has made something of their life after some pretty tough breaks. That side of Lidia Thorpe I can respect.

    A tired marxist aboriginal noise-maker with a chip on her shoulder, not so much.


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  3. The Paywallian reports Prof van Wrongselen’s book of newspaper columns in jeopardy following Mrs Pirate Pete’s comments. Time to rethink your Christmas stocking fillers. Not to mention the School of Wrongology reading list.


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  4. Anthony Albanese rebukes Adam Bandt over Australian flag move

    The “rebuke” quote is actually that Albo reckons Bandt should “have a think about” the issue. Hardly a Keating-esque put down.

    This is all rather boring tbh. Bog standard positioning: Bandt to the left of Albo, Albo in the centre, Dutton not even in the picture he’s that far right.

    What I want to hear about is the teals. What are they doing? Learning the ropes I suppose, but at some point they need to start throwing their weight about. Then we’ll see how things play out in the new Parliament.


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  5. I’ve plenty of time for a houso who has made something of their life after some pretty tough breaks. That side of Lidia Thorpe I can respect.

    A tired marxist aboriginal noise-maker with a chip on her shoulder, not so much.

    The good thing about this is that nobody really cares what you think. She certainly doesn’t.


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  6. The good thing about this is that nobody really cares what you think.

    If you were capable of thought nobody would care what you were thinking either.
    Squeal, m0nty! Squeal like a pig!


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  7. That’s the lesson from Thorpe’s comments. People on the Cat just don’t matter to her.

    Makes a refreshing change when the LNP in government didn’t care about vast swathes of Labor voters.


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  8. You don’t need a science degree to understand that male swimmers have an unfair advantage over women once puberty kicks in.

    It’s written right there in front of all of us – in Australian swimming’s record books and on the honour board of every swim club in the country.

    Every open age world and national record that has ever been set by women has been beaten by a boy aged as young as 14 or 15.

    At the age of 14, Kyle Chalmers was faster over 50m and 100m freestyle than the fastest female sprinter of all time – Sweden’s Sarah Sjostrom.

    Her 50m world record – 23.67 seconds – has been eclipsed by 4,121 male swimmers.

    American Katie Ledecky, widely regarded as the best female swimmer ever, holds the top 20 times by women for 800m freestyle, including the world record (8:04.79).

    But 458 male swimmers have bettered that time, including Mack Horton, who managed it when he was just 15.

    It’s those performance numbers that convinced FINA’s leaders to propose a new policy effectively banning transgender women from competing in elite female events.

    The data was bundled up in a detailed presentation by international scientists to delegates at last weekend’s FINA Congress in Budapest, where the groundbreaking vote to back the proposal was made.

    Oz, with some pretty graphics in the rest of the story


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  9. The good thing about this is that nobody really cares what you think. She certainly doesn’t.

    Her disdain for what Australians think may explain why she only lasted 12 months in the Victorian parliament.


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  10. At the Oz. Good on you Avi! This Disproves that it was an Andrews staffer? maybe, but absolutely proves that he was an Andrews stooge. I hope that this pr1ck’s affiliation and his possible monetary compensation is fully exposed. Come on Rachael Blax, here is your chance.

    36 MINUTES AGO
    PRGuy unmasks himself, admits ‘I have no experience’
    Alexandra Middleton

    The identity of the controversial PRGuy Twitter account has been revealed.

    Jeremy Maluta on Friday announced he was the voice behind the high profile page, which came to prominence during Melbourne’s lockdowns.

    The account – which has accumulated more than 90,000 followers – has been an avid supporter of Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews and critical of both the state opposition and the mainstream media.

    Mr Maluta unmasked himself in an hour-long YouTube interview before posting his announcement to Twitter.

    “Hi, I’m Jeremy Maluta,” he tweeted.

    “You may remember me from such hashtags as #IStandWithDan and #ICantBelieveItsNotAStaffer. I don’t actually have any PR experience, I don’t actually have any social media experience or media experience of any kind.”

    The revelations disprove theories the Twitter account was run by an Andrews government staffer.

    It comes after right-wing commentator Avi Yemini vowed to take his battle to unveil the identity of PRGuy back to court.



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  11. Free speech demands that everyone, even Nazis, have the right to say whatever they want.

    Yep. I want everyone who wants to wave swastikas and condemn all Jews to go out in public and do so. That way, I get to be able to see who the nasty loonies are.


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  12. He’s one of Australia’s richest men – but he doesn’t own a thing

    Kylar Loussikian
    Business Editor
    @kloussikian
    An hour ago June 24, 2022

    For years she read of her husband’s enormous wealth. He was on rich lists, asset sales had netted hundreds of millions of dollars, investments were paying off and the family’s fortune soaring.

    Then, when the wheels came off the marriage several years ago, the money disappeared.

    Now the businessman’s former wife is alleging he concocted a sham transfer of his assets into a trust controlled by his mother, brother and lawyer.

    He claims the transfer took place in 2005, before their marriage. She says the transfer took place just last year, well after the marriage disintegrated. She wants the court to force her ex-husband to hand over $350m.

    Despite the man’s high-profile – he is one of the country’s richest men – The Weekend Australian is prohibited from disclosing his name or any other identifying details because the matter is before the Federal Circuit and Family Court.

    In filings to the court, the billionaire’s wife – known as Ms Brayton – alleges her husband transferred shares and trusts to his mother, his brother and his lawyer last year in arrangements that “were shams with the consequence that the trusts and their assets remain property of the parties to the marriage and the husband continues to retain control of those trusts”.

    Ms Brayton and Mr Brayton, as the businessman is known in the documents, have been involved in litigation against one another for several years. While all parenting issues are resolved, there is an ongoing dispute about what is owed to Ms Brayton. Mr Brayton agreed to pay his wife only $350,000 and was later ordered to pay an additional $200,000 in costs. While the couple had a financial agreement signed in 2005, the court in 2019 decided that it was void.

    Ms Brayton wants the court to order her ex-husband to hand over original documents relating to the transfer of the companies and shares so they can be subjected to a handwriting expert “with a view to obtaining expert evidence in relation to not only authorship of the deeds but the date on which each was created”.

    “That evidence, so the wife submitted, dovetailed into the wife’s contentions that various documentation is a sham as the transaction allegedly recorded in the documentation was undertaken with a view to putting assets out of reach,” one court document reads.

    She also alleges that, even though through the marriage the businessman told her he was the owner of their family home, she has since discovered he is only the trustee, and has no ownership in the property. The family purchased the home more than a decade ago – while they were married – for more than $11m. Property filings still list the husband as the mortgagee.

    New & improved business newsletter. Get the edge with AM and PM briefings, plus breaking news alerts in your inbox.

    The businessman – who opposed the disclosures – also objected to handing over details of consulting and management services, telling the court this was because it would require him to speculate on what they were and whether or not they really were within the order’s scope.

    “I find that argument difficult to accept,” wrote Federal Circuit Court judge Joshua Wilson in one judgment handed down in the matter in December. “The husband is a very astute businessman, well-advised and much adept in complex commercial transactions.”

    Snork, snork…….


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  13. What I want to hear about is the teals. What are they doing? Learning the ropes I suppose, but at some point they need to start throwing their weight about. Then we’ll see how things play out in the new Parliament.

    Exactly what “weight” have the Teal Ducks got to throw about? The Liars have a majority in the Reps, and the Real Ducks are a non-event in the Senate. They have had their moment in the sun.


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  14. DrBeauGansays:
    June 24, 2022 at 4:55 pm
    Free speech demands that everyone, even Nazis, have the right to say whatever they want.

    Yep. I want everyone who wants to wave swastikas and condemn all Jews to go out in public and do so. That way, I get to be able to see who the nasty loonies are.

    What are the odds that a high proportion of the “nasty loonies” will turn out to be on the fascist left?


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  15. The “rebuke” quote is actually that Albo reckons Bandt should “have a think about” the issue. Hardly a Keating-esque put down.

    This is all rather boring tbh. Bog standard positioning: Bandt to the left of Albo, Albo in the centre, Dutton not even in the picture he’s that far right.

    LOL. The damage control is real.


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  16. Pope Francis orders online release of second world war-era ‘Jewish’ files

    I suspect nefarious intentions.
    This pope is a bad dude.


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  17. Fantastic edit of that legendary match now almost a half a century ago

    Beginning with a very funny haka!

    Yes, indeed.
    And everyone in the Baba backline was a Williams.


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  18. Bog standard positioning: Bandt to the left of Albo, Albo in the centre, Dutton not even in the picture he’s that far right.

    Probably not quite ‘bog standard’.
    Albo will certainly be having a Faaaark Moment, with his liege Lord of the Senate going off piste.

    No doubt Albanese loathes Empire with the best of them, but he’s got a national agenda to manage.


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  19. time to give some respect to people like her who have a very different lived experience.

    M0nts, I am not so sure about that. Her maternal grandmother and her aunts perhaps, earlier aboriginal activists from the 30’s to the 70’s, but she herself seems to have had quite a comfortable existence within the activist part of the aboriginal industry and is now a senator. Plenty of good jobs came her way and a smooth path to a senoratorial position and salary – in spite of having been made bankrupt for $7ooK owing plus $55k to the tax department (from her wiki bio). She claims marital issues caused this for herself and her three children. Well, she wouldn’t be the first nor the last person, male or female, to be in that boat (lots of marriages are not made in heaven) but she’s done ok in the world of work before and since and the debts presumably are all scotched now.

    She’s got old white men in her Viking ancestry too – the name of Thorpe is Norse.

    Mainly she’s been educated by marxists within the aboriginal industry and the university sector with certificates in victimology, in which she has excelled. A far cry from Jacinta Price, who rightly calls out Thorpe for her ‘privilege’ both now and in the past. Jacinta Price recognises that her own path, like Lidia Thorpe’s, has been very different from the struggles of earlier aboriginal activists let alone the struggles felt in tribal communities, and that it is the values of contemporary Australians that have produced the privileges they both have managed to attain and enjoy. Thorpe should kiss the flag, not deny it. Australians including aboriginal men fought to provide the benefits and freedoms it has offered to her as to all Australians.


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  20. Yep. I want everyone who wants to wave swastikas and condemn all Jews to go out in public and do so. That way, I get to be able to see who the nasty loonies are.

    Go to a park in Mosman.

    Neo-Nazis unfurl flag in Australian park (23 Jun)

    Jewish leaders in Australia are expressing outrage after a weekend incident in a New South Wales park in which a group of neo-Nazis unfurled an extremist flag and then made Nazi salutes, the Australian Jewish News reported.

    Witnesses at Hunter Park recounted watching a group comprised of five men and one woman all wearing black unfurling a neo-Nazi flag before performing the Hitler salute.

    They proceeded to stay in the park where they had a barbecue.

    I suppose if you go to a park for an outing having a BBQ while you’re there is a logical action.


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  21. It’s the job of Bandt to stake out a position outside Albo’s comfort range. Otherwise he gets accused of being part of another government coalition. This is all very deliberate, I reckon, stage managed to signal to the lefty base that he’s extreme enough to differentiate himself.

    It’s all theatre, but when the whips are cracking in Parliament this short-term messaging will be forgotten.


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  22. Mak Siccarsays:
    June 24, 2022 at 4:53 pm

    Ok Jeremy has claimed to be PRGuy.
    Avi actually got a Court order that Twitter had to reveal PRGuy’s identity. I hope Avi takes that through to its conclusion and gets Twitter to provide the info under penalty of perjury, just in case Jeremy is actually a confected stooge put up to protect someone in Maximum Leader’s office.


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  23. Ramaphosa ‘should have curbed Zuma’

    By Jane Flanagan
    The Times
    1:09PM June 24, 2022
    1 Comment

    South African President Cyril Ramaphosa could have done more to curb his predecessor’s corrupt rule and “had the ­responsibility to do so”, according to the final report of a judicial inquiry into the country’s biggest post-apartheid scandal.

    Mr Ramaphosa, 69, was Jacob Zuma’s deputy for nearly half of the latter’s nine-year presidency, when systematic plundering is estimated to have cost the country 1.5 trillion rand ($122bn) in stolen funds and lost GDP.

    With the support of the ruling African National Congress, Mr Zuma survived a series of confidence votes in parliament. “There was surely enough credible information in the public ­domain … to at least prompt [Ramaphosa] to inquire and perhaps act on a number of serious allegations,” inquiry head Chief Justice Raymond Zondo said. “As the deputy president, he surely had the responsibility to do so.”

    Mr Ramaphosa took power in 2018, after which he expressed shock at the reach of Mr Zuma and his cronies and pledged to turn things around. More than 1430 people and institutions have been implicated in wrongdoing after evidence from 300 witnesses over four years. Mr Ramaphosa has four months to respond to recommendations from the inquiry.

    The President described the so-called state capture under Mr Zuma as “an assault on our democracy”. Yet the judge also found that Mr Ramaphosa was a poor witness whose answers had been “opaque”.

    The comments are likely to further dent Mr Ramaphosa’s claim to be cleaning up his party. He is under fire after it emerged that a robbery at his farm involving a large bundle of foreign currency was never reported to the police.

    Mr Ramaphosa has not denied keeping cash but claimed he was the victim of “dirty tricks” and “intimidation” from those against reform.



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  24. m0ntysays:
    June 24, 2022 at 5:49 pm
    It’s the job of Bandt to stake out a position outside Albo’s comfort range. Otherwise he gets accused of being part of another government coalition. This is all very deliberate, I reckon, stage managed to signal to the lefty base that he’s extreme enough to differentiate himself.

    So when are you giving your house to the local land council and deporting yourself to Old Blighty?


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  25. ABC: Albanese to visit Paris to ‘reset’ our relationship with France. What a pathetic stunt. What a disgusting waste of money. Because fifty million Aussies care deeply about France. Have a good time in Montmartre Albo.


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  26. My heart condition is under control with drugs.

    Krispy kreme arent a pharmacy.
    And boxes of lard dipped sugar balls arent “medications’.


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  27. Jupiter Mines (JMS) still paying dividends (hip hip hooray!).

    Now Ramaphosa being a commie, that’s theatre for you.

    They’re not revolutionaries, they’re grifters. They know their bread is buttered side up.


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  28. Thorpe should kiss the flag, not deny it. Australians including aboriginal men fought to provide the benefits and freedoms it has offered to her as to all Australians.

    She’s a Marxist; she detests everything the flag symbolises.

    Her presence in parliament should be considered in light of Popper’s paradox of tolerance.


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  29. It was a very hard question, so three months is amazingly fast. /s

    Health Secretary Dr Brendan Murphy provides definition of a ‘woman’ three months after first asked by Senator (24 Jun)

    After previously being unable to provide the definition of what a “woman” is, Health Secretary Dr Brendan Murphy has now given an answer – which has been described as “absolute drivel”.

    “The frameworks adopted to define a person’s gender include chromosomal makeup, the gender assigned at birth, and the gender with which a person identifies,” the statement reads.

    “The Department of Health does not adopt a single definition. Health policies and access to health programs are based on clinical evidence and clinical need for all Australians, regardless of gender identity, biological characteristics, or genetic variations.

    “Our programs are designed to be inclusive and to provide better health and wellbeing for all Australians.”

    Mr Antic doubled down in a social media post saying the 78-word response reads like a “position statement from a gender studies department of a woke university”.

    “During the COVID period I formed the view our bureaucracies were out of touch. Nothing in this 78-word nonsense has done anything to dissuade me of that view,” Mr Antic wrote on Facebook.

    So if you are ever asked that incredibly difficult question you now have the official Federal Department of Health’s definition. Pollies better start memorizing the 78 words.

    Or you could say they have XX chromosomes. Provided, of course, that you don’t mind losing your job, being banned from Twitter and Facebook, and being investigated by the AFP for a hate crime.


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  30. I’m like Hunter S. Thompson on the road to Vegas.

    You about as funny as an impacted bowel. Speaking of which Beth Dutton’s fight with the vegan slut near the end of the video is full of memorable insults about arseholes.


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  31. Jewish leaders in Australia are expressing outrage after a weekend incident in a New South Wales park in which a group of neo-Nazis unfurled an extremist flag and then made Nazi salutes, the Australian Jewish News reported.

    I can understand Jewish outrage at these pathetic scum, although I reckon laughing at them would be a better tactic. And banning them would be a serious error. Let them come out and show themselves and discover what the great majority think of them and their shenanigans.


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  32. This is all very deliberate, I reckon, stage managed to signal to the lefty base that he’s extreme enough to differentiate himself.

    Mild understatement.
    But he’s talking to 2%?, 3%? of the voteherd.


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  33. m0ntysays:
    June 24, 2022 at 5:49 pm
    It’s the job of Bandt to stake out a position outside Albo’s comfort range. Otherwise he gets accused of being part of another government coalition. This is all very deliberate, I reckon, stage managed to signal to the lefty base that he’s extreme enough to differentiate himself.

    It’s all theatre, but when the whips are cracking in Parliament this short-term messaging will be forgotten.

    I wonder if m0nty-fa will forget it? Or some of the extreme Slime? Or even the Teal Ducks?


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  34. The Australian Constitution requires that those elected to the Senate and the House of Representatives swear or solemnly affirm their allegiance to the Crown. Senators and members are required to both ‘make and subscribe’ (sign) an oath or affirmation.

    Could Lidia Thorpe be charge with swearing a false oath? Asking for a friend.


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  35. The frameworks adopted to define a person’s gender include chromosomal makeup, the gender assigned at birth, and the gender with which a person identifies,” the statement reads.

    gender assigned at birth?!?!?!? say what!


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  36. Definition of “woman” is easy.

    An adult female of the human species.

    If the follow up question is to define a “female” then you can get into chromosones, egg production & fertilisation, fallopian tubes, vaginas and capacity to give birth to a human child.

    Or you can simplify all of it – gals have a gash, blokes have a cock. Though that’ll upset the woke.


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  37. I saw elsewhere earlier that there are discussions in America about breaking up Russia.

    Quite mutual I suspect. Come back after the mid terms to see which side has been the most successful. The Soviet Union then Russia famously funded the green movement for a loong time (which is paying off big right now), and I suspect China is extremely active too (just ask Hunter).


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  38. Mak Siccarsays:
    June 24, 2022 at 4:53 pm

    Ok Jeremy has claimed to be PRGuy

    No connection to the TaliDan regime he claims. Complete bullshit.
    The devotional and constant tweeting for his lord and master isn’t the work of someone taking the piss.
    The time and effort needed points to a direct link to Andrew’s office.
    Who the fuck is called Jeremy anyway?
    His parents were obviously taking the piss.
    “He looks like a snivelling little turd, let’s call him Jeremy.”


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  39. famously funded the green movement for a loong time (which is paying off big right now), and I suspect China is extremely active too (just ask Hunter).

    Fester, are you suggesting Bunter is in the Green movement? WTF?


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  40. DoverBeach:

    Yugopnik
    @yugopnik
    This is like 70% of the population
    Amazing thread.

    It must be just me, but I couldn’t work out what the hell is going on.
    Can someone explain it for a poor old pensioner?


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  41. “I suspect nefarious intentions.
    This pope is a bad dude.”
    What a load of rubbish.
    The documents were made available online to researchers in 2020, and the paper version to researchers long before that.
    Making them generally available should end (but won’t) the nefarious allegations against Pope Pius XII


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  42. feelthebernsays:
    June 23, 2022 at 9:07 pm

    Bern, if this is legit who do they think this will benefit? China certainly, if the US thinks they could become a powerbroker in these regions bordering China they are seriously deluded.


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  43. Mater, I dunno the exact timing (exactly when), but my understanding is that Patton essentially saved Italy from Soviet invasion through Yugoslavia. Patton apparently aimed his tanks at the Sovs on the Yugo/ Italian border and told them to make his day.


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  44. What I want to hear about is the teals.

    As do I. They should be offered a box to stand on and a bullhorn to shriek into at every opportunity.


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  45. In addition to PVO’s tome being shelved, the other authors on the backburner include:-
    Britnah ‘Iggins ‘erself.
    Grace Tame.
    Samantha Maiden.
    Nikki Savva.
    The delays could take years if it goes to appeal. And there will be a lot of pulping and/or re-drafting in case of a not guilty verdict.


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  46. Winston Smithsays:
    June 24, 2022 at 2:59 pm
    Indolent:
    https://www.brighteon.com/b52cd99f-e81a-42c4-9e34-358e45784723
    The Pharmaceutical Industry has its dick firmly stuck in the sausage making machine and which ever way the grinder runs, it’s gonna hurt.
    They ran with this scam, knowing full well it was a scam, and are now staring financial and criminal disaster in the face.
    I have no sympathy at all.

    Thank you for highlighting this. I was going to repost it because it shouldn’t be missed. If there is any justice in the world, they will all be charged and convicted of fraud, corruption, malfeasance, deceptive behaviour, everything up to and including murder. The big question, however, is who is going to hold them to account.


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  47. In addition to PVO’s tome being shelved, the other authors on the backburner include:-
    Britnah ‘Iggins ‘erself.
    Grace Tame.
    Samantha Maiden.
    Nikki Savva.

    Twelve million dollars worth….


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  48. In addition to PVO’s tome being shelved, the other authors on the backburner include:-
    Britnah ‘Iggins ‘erself.
    Grace Tame.
    Samantha Maiden.
    Nikki Savva.

    That’s a lot of outhouse paper gonna be missed ! .. time to stock up again .. LOL!


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  49. After previously being unable to provide the definition of what a “woman” is, Health Secretary Dr Brendan Murphy has now given an answer – which has been described as “absolute drivel”.

    When are we going to fire these lying, incompetent, sniveling pieces of shit?


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  50. Comment, on the Oz, about Lydia Thorpe’s brainfart. Fair enough!

    Clay
    3 minutes ago
    She really is trying to see how much she can annoy people. So if according to her not standing for the flag is not an issue, why should I bother sitting around for welcome to the country or smoking ceremonies? Same, same I would think.



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  51. Yugopnik
    @yugopnik
    This is like 70% of the population
    Amazing thread.

    Cops and government want to think about what they’re doing.

    When the people have nothing left, there’s not much holding them back when they get treated like shit.


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  52. smoking ceremonies

    Are in reality, multi-racial, multi-generational, multi-cultural and about as equal and inclusive as equality and inclusivity gets in Australia.

    Look at the legions of people who gather around the ‘Designated Places’ every day, in defiance of this hated symbol of health-based oppression…

    #DoYouSmokeRex?
    #OnlyIfI’mOnFire…


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  53. As an aside, I doubt if we even know how much iron dust is being already flushed into the oceans of the world from rivers. I’d say his plan is needing a LOT more study.

    My 2c worth Winston and I am not a chemist but rock lickers do chemistry up to 2nd year generally. Dumping iron into the ocean won’t help as we are in an oxidising environment rather than reducing. Iron sulphate however I have seen mentioned as food for bacteria, ok cool. Bacteria remove CO2 but where does the sulphate go? Noting sulphates can form some benign compounds but also some nasty ones. Nothing I see answers that question for me yet. Also what are the unintended consequences of this method? So many questions…


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  54. So now Victoria and other states are banning the swastika. I do hope, in the name of consistency, they follow up by banning Wagner’s music. Wagner’s music was beloved by Hitler and other Nazis and was a central theme of Nazi Germany, particularly at Nazi rallies, just as much as the swastika was. In fact, much of Wagner’s philosophical writings and music inspired Hitler. Despite some young musicians agitating to play Wagner’s scores in Israel, his music is still banned out of respect for Holocaust survivors. This I can understand, I know a woman (now very elderly) who remembers hearing Wagner on her arrival in Auschwitz.

    As a Jew who believes in free speech, I’m totally opposed to the banning of the swastika or any other symbol for that matter, just like I’m totally opposed to banning offensive speech, even Holocaust denial. Holocaust denial is repugnant and makes me feel sick but I don’t want it banned, doing so is counter-productive and runs contrary to the whole notion of “free speech”. I’d rather see ugly symbols and ugly speech exposed to the disinfectant of broad daylight where we can rightly mock and ridicule. Weimar Germany had stringent hate speech laws, they worked well didn’t they? In fact, those laws just sent the Nazis underground and we know what ensued from that.

    As for anti-Semitism, most anti-Semitism in the West now emanates from the far-left and the adherents of a very odious religious ideology. Am I worried about a group of mainly pimply faced, socially awkward young men, most of whom probably couldn’t use a can opener, camping out in the Grampians and singing songs under a Nazi flag? I don’t like it but I reckon those Grampian Nazis pose less danger to me and other Australian Jews than the hundreds of Muslims who congregated on a suburban Sydney street in May 2021 screaming for Muslims to slit the throats of Jews (note…not Israelis….JEWS).

    Oh and here are some conundrums, I confess to liking a conundrum or two. If we’re going to ban the swastika then will the hammer and sickle symbol also be banned, it is after all a symbol just as evil and just as murderous as the swastika? Say, what are the chances of that happening? I say ZERO. Oh and here’s another conundrum, every time Israel has to take military action in Gaza or elsewhere, across the west Socialist Unity and far-left scum flock to the streets with their Muslim buddies to protest and partake in genocidal Jew hatred, you know what I’m talking about, what one commentator here quaintly calls their “legitimate grievances”, those “grievances” involve calling for the throats of Jews to be slashed, calling for Jews to be thrown into the ovens again, and cars full of Muslim men driving through Jewish suburbs of North London screaming for Jewish women and girls to be raped, anyway when those protests/rallies occur in the West, frequently attended by left-wing politicians and here in Oz, many Greens and some Labor supporters, you’ll quite likely see people carrying banners and posters with the swastika superimposed over the Star of David. So will we see the police arrest those protesters carrying a placard with a banned symbol? Say, what are the chances of that happening? I say ZERO.

    Anyway, the ultimate aim of this ban isn’t out of any deep concern about a growing number of Nazis in this country or the fact that the Grampians might now be the site of some Nuremberg type rallies. No, the end result is that the left want to ban any kind of right-wing and conservative speech. They’re coming for us.

    Rant/spiel over.


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  55. Winston Smithsays:
    June 24, 2022 at 7:10 pm
    Braking Toad:

    Or you can simplify all of it – gals have a gash, blokes have a cock. Though that’ll upset the woke.

    Tab ‘A’ fits into slot ‘B’.
    As simple as that.

    And in engineering terms, Tab ‘A’ is Male and Tab ‘B’ is Female. There is no other Gender term used.


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  56. And in engineering terms, Tab ‘A’ is Male and Tab ‘B’ is Female. There is no other Gender term used.
    Yet. There is already an effort to avoid the use of the terms master and slave in computers.


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  57. Monty,

    You’re on the Cat, which is your safe space. You wouldn’t survive anywhere else. It’s like a hothouse for rare tropical dickheads.

    Can you define “You wouldn’t survive anywhere else.”?

    Do you mean our points of view would be metaphorically beaten to a pulp after vigorous debate and we’d have to withdraw from the arena cowed and never to return?

    OR

    We’d be banned after our contrary point of view is known?

    And stop giving yourself upticks.


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  58. From the Oz article about the cancelled books:

    ­”FitzSimons and Ms Higgins, the pitch document for the book and the contract between Ms Higgins and publisher Penguin Random House are likely to be aired in court. FitzSimons and Wilkinson have been subpoenaed and will be called as witnesses.

    Penguin Random House had hoped to sell 100,000 copies of Ms Higgins’ book, at $29.99 each”.

    If the guy gets acquitted then surely the whole tone of Higgins book would be affected and its value seriously affected.

    This trial is going to make pop corn sales go through the roof.

    Seems like some people wanting to commercialize her victimhood before it was proved she was a victim.

    Just extraordinary that it could come to this situation without anybody at Ch 10 picking up on the dangers of Wilkinson becoming an active participant in the saga and the legal ramifications.

    Higgins going to be under great pressure when giving evidence and seems like she had given defence multiple lines of attack in relation to credibility.


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  59. Look at the legions of people who gather around the ‘Designated Places’ every day, in defiance of this hated symbol of health-based oppression…

    Some niggling jobsworth has gone about the place painting lines out the front of offices in the city with the message “no smoking on front of the line”. I noted today the graffiti under a no smoking sign “tobacco tax relief now” which made me smile, it looked like a professional stencil job too.


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  60. I can understand Jewish outrage at these pathetic scum, although I reckon laughing at them would be a better tactic.

    Old college who was Jewish had the same view, thought if you want to worship a dead loser go for it. At least your are in the open and open to be mocked.


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  61. Clay
    3 minutes ago
    She really is trying to see how much she can annoy people. So if according to her not standing for the flag is not an issue, why should I bother sitting around for welcome to the country or smoking ceremonies? Same, same I would think.

    That’s a good point. There are other reasons for ignoring welcome to country but the double standard is a good one. I also like the misappropriation points: thorpe uses many Western aspects of society; the bitch should be running around in a lap-lap or emu-feather-apron or whatever the 3rd nation ladies wore in the good old days.


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  62. Yet. There is already an effort to avoid the use of the terms master and slave in computers.

    Oh dear.

    2-pack and other multiple-coupled freight wagons are referred to as ‘Master’ and ‘Slave’ units as well, denoting which wagon subunit carries the triple valve and auxiliary reservoir tank for their collective braking system.

    ‘A’ and ‘B’ ends are already taken up on said wagons for determining axle position for fault-finding purposes and to quickly identify where the handbrake is (Always at the ‘B’ or Brake end. You also count your Left and Right from the B end, so L/R1 and 2 are axles at the B end, and L/R 3 and 4 at the A).


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  63. Eyriesays:
    June 24, 2022 at 8:01 pm
    And in engineering terms, Tab ‘A’ is Male and Tab ‘B’ is Female. There is no other Gender term used.
    Yet. There is already an effort to avoid the use of the terms master and slave in computers.

    In fact, the terms master and slave is used throughout Electrical Engineering. Ships are referred to as a ‘She’ and so is Mother Nature. Sydney Ferries still use the term ‘Man Overboard’ on the notices next to the Life Rings on the ferries. ‘Person Overboard’ here we come……………….lol.


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  64. Yet. There is already an effort to avoid the use of the terms master and slave in computers.

    So the brake master cylinder in a car will be what?, the brake non-binary hetronormative cis-gender queer Xi/Xer cylinder


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  65. ZK2A

    Clay
    3 minutes ago
    She really is trying to see how much she can annoy people. So if according to her not standing for the flag is not an issue, why should I bother sitting around for welcome to the country or smoking ceremonies? Same, same I would think.

    I suddenly want to grab a camera and film a “Welcome to Country” spectacle whilst making loud commentary about ‘primitive rites’.
    For the edification of inner city Brahmin Class, of course.


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  66. Toad

    Or you can simplify all of it – gals have a gash, blokes have a cock. Though that’ll upset the woke.

    I wonder, has that line (repeated several times) from Arnie’s Kindergarten Cop, “Girls have got a ‘gina, boys have got a penis” been censored from re-runs?


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  67. Wokdockter:

    Dumping iron into the ocean won’t help as we are in an oxidising environment rather than reducing. Iron sulphate however I have seen mentioned as food for bacteria, ok cool. Bacteria remove CO2 but where does the sulphate go?

    A very good point, and I appreciate it being made.
    Ta.


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  68. rickw

    When the people have nothing left, there’s not much holding them back when they get treated like shit.

    As the hippies of the 1960s and 1970s were wont to say “When you’ve got nothing, you’ve got nothing to lose”.


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  69. 132andBush

    Do you mean our points of view would be metaphorically beaten to a pulp after vigorous debate and we’d have to withdraw from the arena cowed and never to return?

    LOL. m0nty-fa was so vigorously “beaten to a pulp” on his own blog, by two fellow lefty idiots (BIRM), that he had to “withdraw from the arena cowed and never to return”. The fool didn’t even have a safe space on his own blog!


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  70. Rockdoctorsays:
    June 24, 2022 at 8:07 pm
    I can understand Jewish outrage at these pathetic scum, although I reckon laughing at them would be a better tactic.

    Old college who was Jewish had the same view, thought if you want to worship a dead loser go for it. At least your are in the open and open to be mocked.

    Shits me that if you are using it as part of Celtic, German, or other European history it get assumed it’s NAZI!!!!!, instead of the 8000+ years of it symbolizing other things. I’d much rather not having the scab picked at by outlawing the display and making a big deal about it. Let it revert to what it was.

    In many ways, it’s another aspect of the war on western history. Demonising the culture by overly emphasising the evil, and denigrating the good that’s been produced from the overall culture of “the western world”.


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  71. Carpe Jugulum:

    So the brake master cylinder in a car will be what?, the brake non-binary hetronormative cis-gender queer Xi/Xer cylinder

    Does anyone remember the ‘cisnormative’ post that was put on the old Catallaxy files by some weirdo sheila chick about four or five years ago?
    Jeez, that was a barrel of larfs.
    Right up until we realised she was dead serious…


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  72. Bluey

    Shits me that if you are using it as part of Celtic, German, or other European history it get assumed it’s NAZI!!!!!

    It is a big part of Indian culture. Banning it seems to have a tinge of racism.


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  73. Zyco:
    Context, and how the bureaucratic state fucks us over.
    Just because he ignored a regulation doesn’t mean the state can fuck him over.
    Lots of ways out of this, but in the end, the state has gotten too big.


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  74. Just extraordinary that it could come to this situation without anybody at Ch 10 picking up on the dangers of Wilkinson becoming an active participant in the saga and the legal ramifications.

    She’s all but in contempt of court, while Pirate Pete is in contempt of intelligence, having whatever little sense he had long beaten out of him by Frenchmen of all people.


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  75. Shits me that if you are using it as part of Celtic, German, or other European history it get assumed it’s NAZI!!!!!, instead of the 8000+ years of it symbolizing other things. I’d much rather not having the scab picked at by outlawing the display and making a big deal about it. Let it revert to what it was.

    It was a Hindu symbol from way back. It was then picked up by Buddhists. I still remember my shock when I approached a Buddhist temple in south western China and it was covered all over with swastikas.
    I may be wrong, but I think I remember one historic building in Collins Street that has some sculpture on the facade well above street level with the soon-to-be banned symbol on it.


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  76. Incidentally, it’s strange that Maximum Leader has been Premier for over 7 years, and has only realised the necessity of banning the swastika a few months after tens of thousands of Victorians protested in the streets with signs comparing him with the Nazis.


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  77. Going to talk about Trump on talkback tomorrow. My notes:

    Trump
    The world was a much safer place, a better place when Trump was in power
    NK mutant in his box
    The mullahs were contained. Trump blew up their top general Qasem Soleimani . Biden is giving them the bomb
    China was under control; Xie was coming back for visit if Trump hadn’t been cheated in the election
    Russia: putin wasn’t moving after Trump blew up Shayrat airfield in Syria
    Food and petrol were plentiful; Trump made fun of global warming and the greenies
    Jan6
    Trump told them go peacefully. They did. The trouble was entirely caused by antifa and blm groups in the crowd.
    FBI found after a 6 month investigation: “the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump.” Commenting on the more than 570 alleged offenders who have been arrested, FBI estimated that 90 to 95% of them are “one-off cases.” Reuters 21/8/2021
    Trump offered Pelosi the national guard to guard the Capital; she refused. She gave no excuse
    Trump asked legitimate questions about the election; we now know are correct. The msm hid Hunter’s laptop and Biden’s connections to Russia and Ukraine. There were many irregularities with the voting. By comparison Democrats have fiercely contested every election loss; they never accepted Trump’s win and impeached him 3 times for things they themselves had done; all the Russian collusion was between Hillary the DNC. Everything said about him has been a lie.
    NO cops died at Jand 6. Sicknick was scandously lied about; he did not die from being struck by protestors but died of a stroke 2 days after Jan 6. His natural death was hidden even from his own family while the demorats lied about his death. Other police officers have suicided in the 12 months after Jan 6, consistent with the usual rate.
    ALL people at Jan 6 were unarmed yet 6 civilians died. One Ashley Babbitt, a war veteran, was shot for just standing near a door; another, Rosanne Boyland, was beaten to death by police on the steps outside; the other 4 died of natural causes.
    Jan 6 is about one thing: to try and stop Trump running in 2024. Because this time he would clean out the swamp.
    This is essential for Australia. Only a strong US with Trump at the helm can protect Australia. Currently biden is the most corrupt POTUS ever. He is also demented. What do we have since Trump was cheated: China running amuck in the south pacific
    Australia has been complicit in cheating Trump:
    In 13 October 2016 the NSW LC passed a green motion which stated that it agreed with those who had described Mr Donald Trump as “a revolting slug unfit for public office”.
    That passed with LNP support. Latham tried to remove it in 26/09/19. Both alp/lnp voted against it.



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  78. “In 13 October 2016 the NSW LC passed a green motion which stated that it agreed with those who had described Mr Donald Trump as “a revolting slug unfit for public office”.
    That passed with LNP support. Latham tried to remove it in 26/09/19. Both alp/lnp voted against it.”

    How unsurprising.


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  79. Bluey. Okley dok.

    If you have misconstrued my response as supporting these moronic bans then, hey I don’t.

    I stated let them be in the open as my Jewish colleague stated. My opinion too. Bad ideas are discounted by informed discourse. Hence better in the open than banned.


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  80. Anyway, “Sliante” to all you mob.

    Mme Zulu had completed all but three, of over thirty sessions of the dreaded radiology treatment, when she was told she had just tested positive for the dreaded Covid, and banged into isolation at the hospital.

    I having asked nicely, she’ll be released tomorrow….


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  81. Rockdoctorsays:
    June 24, 2022 at 9:03 pm
    Bluey.

    What’s your point?

    That while it’s got a much longer history than use by the Nazis party, the swastika has become yet another tool to beat down the cultures of the western world, similarly to slavery.
    Truth doesn’t matter, history doesn’t matter, only how it can be used to in a bit for power.


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  82. Rockdoctorsays:
    June 24, 2022 at 9:35 pm
    Bluey. Okley dok.

    If you have misconstrued my response as supporting these moronic bans then, hey I don’t.

    I stated let them be in the open as my Jewish colleague stated. My opinion too. Bad ideas are discounted by informed discourse. Hence better in the open than banned

    Wasn’t singling you out particularly, more griping about the attitude attached to banning the symbol, as I put it above. The swastika matters less than how people use it in the demonisation of opponents.


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  83. Just because he ignored a regulation doesn’t mean the state can fuck him over.

    The regulation he ignored was: Registering his vehicle.

    It hadn’t been registered in 10 years.

    He also proved rather uncooperative to the coppers & actually called 911 on them.

    However, as the linker says, 70% of the population empathise with him.
    I certainly do. I’m on his side.


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  84. Do you mean our points of view would be metaphorically beaten to a pulp after vigorous debate and we’d have to withdraw from the arena cowed and never to return?

    Yes.


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  85. Jollife – hahaha – that brings back memories.

    Those ‘toons would get the woke frothing.

    Jollife was criticized for depicting male Aborigines wearing “nappies” – it was argued that such dress was never traditional, yet what do you see at every gathering of the “fax Aborigines’ – even Bruce Pascoe?


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  86. However, as the linker says, 70% of the population empathise with him.
    I certainly do. I’m on his side.

    People have nightmares at the thought you may not be on their side, Driller. Literally have nightmares. We all do here.

    By the way how’s Adonis? Has he said anything about four score and twenty years?


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  87. Sancho Panzer says:
    June 24, 2022 at 10:07 pm

    How are the Hawks going m0nster?

    I wanna know how titus is doing? Has anyone heard from him, seen him around, received a telephone call? Where’s freaking titus when you need him? I woke up with a shocking (relax, but temporary) backache this morning and all I wanted to know was, where the fuck is titus.


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  88. Dumping iron into the ocean won’t help as we are in an oxidising environment rather than reducing. Iron sulphate however I have seen mentioned as food for bacteria, ok cool. Bacteria remove CO2 but where does the sulphate go?

    Relatively harmless. The irony is that iron was dumped into the ocean from Burnie and Hobart for many years, and also off of Kwinana. The greenies opposed it so effectively that is was banned worldwide. Now the same greenies want to put iron into the ocean again. Go figure.

    I suspect the idea is to maximize dispersion of the iron, which means once it oxidizes it’d be colloidal. Such iron precipitates are nanometre sized and would be suspended indefinitely without sinking. The bacteria and algae would get sufficient iron from the particles directly or through slow dissolution.

    The sulfate is an easy one: there’s a huge amount of sulfate in the ocean already, nearly 3 grams per litre. It’s the third most abundant ion after sodium and chloride. You couldn’t possibly add enough sulfate to make any difference.

    As to the idea of removing CO2 this way, it’s a well known and studied option. About as stupid as any. There might be an issue with toxic algae blooms, but it’s fairly harmless otherwise.

    If you want a really cheap way to “solve” global warming (which isn’t actually happening much) all you have to do is put sulfate into the atmosphere instead of the ocean. That cools the planet directly via the Pinatubo effect – seeding more clouds and reflecting sunlight. And the way you do it is to turn off the flue gas desulfurization units on coal fired power plants – thereby sending the sulfur into the atmosphere. Not only does it cost nothing but it actually saves money on the desulfurization reagents.

    Funnily enough the greens aren’t keen on that idea…


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  89. JC – I’ve just purchased one of those post futurist Illy coffee machines.

    It’s currently sitting in my kitchen in a very big box, unboxed.

    The masheen itself appears to be a masheen of a dream – but if the coffee tastes crap, I will not be happy, Squire.

    Many many Goose Springsteen videos will be visited and attributed to your good self, if that happens.

    However, I’ve yet to encounter a personage on this planet who’s claimed that Illy coffee is nothing less than supremely tastee.

    The Brasile has been purchased to use in it. 🙂


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  90. JCsays:

    June 24, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    Indolent

    Kennedy is a leftwing antivax loon. Nothing he says can be believed. Even his wife says so.

    Which wife?
    The one who was driven to an early grave?
    Or the one who told him to pull his head in over his batshit crazy Nazi accusations about vaxxes?


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  91. Yea, this wife

    Or the one who told him to pull his head in over his batshit crazy Nazi accusations about vaxxes?

    Larry’s wife in, Curb Your Enthusiasm. Cheryl Hines.


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  92. Biden massively increases oil production with :

    Biden Admin Considers Banning All Offshore Drilling As Energy Crisis Worsens: REPORT – Daily Caller

    In his demented state, I’m guessing he believes it will raise output.


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  93. Sancho Panzer says:
    June 24, 2022 at 11:07 pm

    Please stop talking about milk appendages.
    Titus forbids it.

    LOL

    It’s a great dinner party conversation stopper. “I’m sorry, I can’t discuss covid vaxes as titus doesn’t allow me to do so”.


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  94. I’m drinking good Scotch, and watching music on “YouTube” The latest was a French Army band, belting out “La Marseillaise” at full throttle.

    How did Australia get stuck with “Australians all eat ostriches” as a national anthem? Inquiring minds want to know…….


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  95. How are the Hawks going m0nster?

    We’re rebuilding. We’ve got a really good full forward and centre half back, an elite forward pocket, and our back flankers are all good – hopefully one of our full back prospects comes through. As for our midfield, there’s some nice players but they are way too inconsistent. Not sure being young can explain that either, there are plenty of old blokes in there.

    We’re trying to play this ultra-attacking style but we get sat on by more experienced teams who pick us apart easily on the counter. Will be interesting to see if it works better when this group grows up together.


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  96. The SCOTUS decision on kiddie hoovering comes out at midnight our time I think.

    I have zero to go by, but just taking a quick punt in the complete dark. I reckon they won’t change Roe substantially and just go around the edges if at all. It could also turn out to be a 5/5 split which means federal hoovering is allowed.

    Why?

    I reckon the NY gun thing was the Right’s pacifier in order to avoid turning Roe around.


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  97. Australians all eat ostriches or Australian sons lets us rejoice was a referendum most of us voted for Waltzing Matilda but the Labor gov.at the time pulled rank and file .


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  98. We’re rebuilding.

    Fatboy, “we, we’re, we”. Stop it with the “wee’s” and “where’s”. You can barely walk out of the basement without losing your breath.


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  99. It’s a great dinner party conversation stopper. “I’m sorry, I can’t discuss covid vaxes as titus doesn’t allow me to do so”.

    Titus is a Debbie Downer fun-stopper in my view.
    I’ll probably be killed by a lightning strike but someone has to say it.


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  100. Lol, if only titus was able to shut him up. He’s on here 24/7 bullshitting about everything . There’s nothing he’s not an expert in.

    Please titus do your think and shut the fucker up.


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  101. Anyway, “Sliante” to all you mob.

    Mme Zulu had completed all but three, of over thirty sessions of the dreaded radiology treatment, when she was told she had just tested positive for the dreaded Covid, and banged into isolation at the hospital.

    I having asked nicely, she’ll be released tomorrow….

    Mate, if it wasn’t PiC to say it, I’d be asking which Chinaman you ran over?

    Hope you and your missus are soon both happily and healthily back together soon.


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  102. Bruce in WAsays:
    June 25, 2022 at 12:13 am
    I detest “Advance Australia Fair”.

    The tune is ok, but we should sing it to the lyrics of “I love a sunburnt country”.
    Try it.

    I love a sunburnt country,
    A land of sweeping plains,
    Of ragged mountain ranges,
    Of drought and flooding rains.
    I love her far horizons,
    I love her jewel-sea,
    Her beauty and her terror –
    The wide brown land for me!

    (With whatever replaces the “In joyous strains the let us sing”
    Perhaps
    “In joyous strains then let us sing
    The wide brown land for me”)

    Perhaps for the idealism needed for a national anthem replace “ragged” with “rugged” and “terror” with “splendour” (though anyone who has sensed the eerieness of the bush will relate to “terror”).


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  103. Courtesy to Michael Smith News –

    This is in relation to a Greens ‘Meet your Senators – Mob only On Line Q & A’ held on Tuesday the 21st of June, 2022. Zoom link required.’ The two Senators being, Senator Dorinda Cox and Senator Lidia Thorpe.

    Lachie of SA on Michael Smith News writes –

    “How’s this for blatant discrimination and segregation?
    Imagine it was reversed and a politician ran an “ Anglo only online” could you just imagine the outcry?
    This woman along with other Greens must go. Not becoming of the expected level of behaviour of an Australian politician.
    Greens are even more Disgraceful on every level since the election and people that vote for them should be utterly ashamed of themselves.
    The 10% or so Australians who vote for the Greens certainly prove themselves to fail a basic IQ test at every election.”


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  104. James Newburrie made an incoherent comment about Roe v Wade so I figured something had happened.
    The supreme court overstepped its authority and now the authority is returned to the people?
    Not quite, there is no real human right to kill the innocent.
    It’s a step in the right direction though.


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  105. Roe v Wade overturned.
    Now watch the left kill people because they’ve lost an unconstitutional right to kill people.
    Biden will be forced to protect the judiciary from the mob whether he likes it or not.
    Burning churches not so much.


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