Open Thread – Wed 22 June 2022


Naval Battle in the Gulf of Naples, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1560

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Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 5:11 am

No. That is not justice. He will forever be a suspect if it doesn’t go a head

No. If a case shouldn’t have gone past committal, it should be dismissed.

If you believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty, the lack of a fair trial means you are innocent.

Higgins and her political allies are stopping a fair trial and arguably now committing justice offences.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 24, 2022 5:11 am

Here, flags began to appear on cars on Australia Day and were politicised by some right-wing groups as during the Cronulla riots.

“Right Wing Groups” as in “wholly created by the Security Services”?

On his next appearance does he a) not stand in front of the flag, therefore alienating Australians even more, and losing even more votes, or b) stand in front of it, thus selling himself out?

Who fucking cares?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 5:19 am

MBS’s trip to Ankara to meet with Erdogan at the same time the US can’t nail down a day for Biden’s begging trip is the biggest fuck you to the West & NATO.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 5:25 am

Austria bins vaccine mandates.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 5:27 am

Supporters of a bill of rights just have to look to the UK.
The swamp already have a game plan ready to roll if it ever it gets raised in any western democracy.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 24, 2022 5:28 am

Wealthy stockbroker Christopher Hyland died in January this year, leaving a $5m Darling Point apartment and millions from his share portfolio but with a strict proviso for his only daughter if she wishes to access the money: get a job

Ms Brown’ twin cousins, believed to have been appointed executors of their late uncle Christopher Hyland Brown’s multi-million dollar estate, say he stipulated in his will that his daughter Clare could only collect her inheritance ‘if she gets a job and contributes something to society’.

Clare says that is impossible because she has Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and ‘high-functioning autism’.

Ruth Barr, the elderly mother of Clare’s wife Lauren told Daily Mail Australia her unemployed daughter-in-law couldn’t work because ‘she hates crowds, can’t concentrate and people hate her because she’s gay’.

Daily Mail

bespoke
bespoke
June 24, 2022 5:29 am

If a case shouldn’t have gone past committal, it should be

It’s passed that point know, Dot.

Gabor
Gabor
June 24, 2022 5:30 am

Ed Case says:
June 24, 2022 at 4:09 am

What’s your problem with Tom’s ‘toons?
You keep interrupting, I assure you, they are harmless.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 24, 2022 5:35 am

No. If a case shouldn’t have gone past committal, it should be dismissed.

What’s your argument that it shouldn’t have been Committed for Trial?

If you believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty, the lack of a fair trial means you are innocent.

No it doesn’t.

Higgins and her political allies are stopping a fair trial and arguably now committing justice offences.

Fuck off.
Higgins has no Political Allies, the Liberal Party tried to pretend nothing happened, she’s been used by Sam Maiden and Lisa Wilkinson’s actions are suspicious.
Wilkinson’s Media career is over, but she’s more or less guaranteed no Trial is ever going to be held.
What’s in it for her to do that?

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 5:38 am

shouldn’t

I can’t remember = no prima facie case.

Plus destroying evidence against legal advice.

Oh no. Channel 10’s army of lawyers are going to sue me. Noooo!

My my Ch 10 must have a lot of free cash flow. 🙂

bespoke
bespoke
June 24, 2022 5:40 am

If you believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty, the lack of a fair trial means you are innocent.

That’s conflation, Dot.

rosie
rosie
June 24, 2022 5:44 am

I agree dot.
When so many have interfered to prevent a fair trial, you are particularly entitled to your presumption of innocence.

One wonders why so many thumbs have been pressed on the scale.

Winston Smith
June 24, 2022 5:47 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:
June 23, 2022 at 10:34 pm

The bottom line is that the whole case against the accused should be dropped.

bespokesays:
June 24, 2022 at 3:44 am

No. That is not justice. He will forever be a suspect if it doesn’t go a head.

Cassie, Bespoke is right – He needs the opportunity to clear his name.
And I suspect denying him this, is part of the game plan by the accuser. If it is dropped, the ‘victim’ can say the charges were dropped due to the pressure.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 5:48 am

That’s conflation, Dot.

No it’s not, not in light of justice offences committed by the accused.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 5:49 am

I meant accusers

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 5:50 am

Cassie, Bespoke is right – He needs the opportunity to clear his name.

If I commit justice offences accusing you of a crime, you shouldn’t go to trial, I should be put on trial.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 5:53 am

Alito’s concurring opinion in the 2A case today is pretty bombastic.
You don’t know when it was written but maybe the abortion case leak means the court will not be so polite to each other.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 5:54 am

Lol, Goat of Kiev.
Wait for this one to go viral.

bespoke
bespoke
June 24, 2022 5:58 am

Those offences have a better chance of being exposed in a trial then social media, Dot.

win
win
June 24, 2022 6:01 am

Sorry accident slip of the thumb.

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2022 6:15 am

“Dotsays:
June 24, 2022 at 5:11 am”

Yes.

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2022 6:23 am

“He needs the opportunity to clear his name.”

I’m sure George Pell thought the same thing, except he ended up spending a year in goal for a crime he did not commit.

sfw
sfw
June 24, 2022 6:27 am

Andrews and Marshall have created a giant bureaucracy that will continue to grow and eat taxes, we’re all going to be paying. Wonder why they need all these extra senior positions? Especially so soon after the creation of the monster.
“A third submission seeks funding for the Country Fire Authority to employ five assistant chief fire officer positions and 21 commander relievers.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/daniel-andrews-rejected-firefighting-funding-bid-out-of-spite/news-story/6056655a12f5946d7fd1697f2dbcd3ec

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2022 6:37 am

If he truly believed in his own act, he should quit parliament.

‘But muh free money.’

Crossie
Crossie
June 24, 2022 6:41 am

Dot says:
June 24, 2022 at 5:50 am
Cassie, Bespoke is right – He needs the opportunity to clear his name.
If I commit justice offences accusing you of a crime, you shouldn’t go to trial, I should be put on trial.

If we did have a justice system Higgins would be on trial for making false allegations. Provide evidence or shut up. The she said, she said, she said ad infinitum without any proof is just malice and so is the journalism that supports it.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 24, 2022 6:43 am

Rita Panahi on Wilkinson:-

she is a media veteran in her 60s

That comment more than any other would sting the old botox biddy more than anything.

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2022 6:44 am

Jimmy Dore calls The Guardian “that garbage paper”.

Nicely said Jimmy.

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 6:51 am

Jimmy Dore calls The Guardian “that garbage paper”.

Nicely said Jimmy.

Only useful as old style Fish and Chips wrapping paper and as the base for starting a coal fire with wood sticks and coal on top for a coal fire in the grate at home in winter.

Happy Friday and fish and chips for me today.

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2022 6:55 am

“goal”

Apologies…should be gaol.

Winston Smith
June 24, 2022 6:58 am
Winston Smith
June 24, 2022 7:01 am

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/just-new-metro-dc-police-report-confirms-plainclothes-electronic-surveillance-unit-operatives-embedded-crowd-jan-6-record-protesters-used-rainbow-color-wristbands-ident/?ff_source=Email&ff_medium=the-gateway-pundit&ff_campaign=dailyam&ff_content=2022-06-23

According to the Epoch Times, which reviewed the report, it is unknown exactly who the “members” of the MPD ESU were. However, they do point out that the report refrains from ever referring to them as “officers” or “police.” All in all, the outlet concludes that the evidence shown in the report indicates “a day of security deficiencies and police provocation for the purpose of entrapment,” which is right in line with other evidence that has come out since that day.

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 7:01 am

Austria bins vaccine mandates.

What a shame that that doesn’t say – “Australia bins both Gov’ment and Employer “vaccine” (Covid 19 drug) mandates”…………………

Winston Smith
June 24, 2022 7:03 am

Excellent stuff:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/breaking-supreme-court-decides-new-york-gun-rights-case-strikes-strict-concealed-carry-law/?ff_source=Email&ff_medium=the-gateway-pundit&ff_campaign=dailyam&ff_content=2022-06-23

The justices’ 6-3 decision is expected to ultimately allow more people to legally carry guns on the streets of the nation’s largest cities – including New York, Los Angeles and Boston – and elsewhere. About a quarter of the U.S. population lives in states expected to be affected by the ruling, the high court’s first major gun decision in more than a decade.

132andBush
132andBush
June 24, 2022 7:15 am

Gabor says:
June 24, 2022 at 5:30 am

I noticed that as well.

Looks like the Ed Random Word Generator has been programmed to interrupt Tom’s toons.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2022 7:19 am

I’m not assigning a lot of blame to Brih-neee herself for this.

Sure, she would appear to be a vacuous bimbo in the early stages of what she thought would be a lifetime at the trough, and who didn’t give a lot of thought to actions v consequences – but she got chewed up by The Machine, and this is nowhere near finished yet.

It’s almost superfluous to say that it is not unusual for younger punters (of either sex) to get shitfaced, intended or not, at social functions – particularly ones they had a role in planning – and to end up having a consensual drunken root at the end of it, and then to arise at some point the next day going ‘Jesus wept. What was that about?’

They didn’t invent the terms ‘beer goggles’ and ‘walk of shame’ out of thin air. Consider this scenario:

Higgins arose the following day, post root-n-spew, horrified and embarrassed that people are aware of her earlier uninhibited indiscretions (like millions of people every week in every country on Earth). She is immediately seized upon by the local femmo coven who insist she was raped, and demand she retain ‘the evidence’, ie the dress. She tells them she’s not interested, and has the fluidy dress cleaned.

Gossipy speculation continues for a few months inside the Parliamentary vacuum, then dissipates as other bright shiny things attract attention.

But then – then – the ‘Government has a woman problem’ concept grows legs, powered by the usual suspects. Grace Tame is made AOTY to calm that farm, but it backfires. For a short while both of them were side by side, symbolising nasty men in Parliament, and non-Labor men in particular.

Brih-neee is pressured by The Machine’s faceless tarts to get on board and make a formal complaint. Really pressured. Finally, she does so and is promptly raised up as a symbol of everything wrong with the Government of the day, and with men as a side issue.

The ACT jacks want nothing to do with it, and resist for some time before the Ministerial pressure (a la Pell – and Rolfe, for that matter) becomes too much. The path of least resistance – ie, ‘fuck it – we’ll put it in front of a jury’ is taken by police, the DPP and the Magistrate hearing the committal, and here we are.

This chick will be hanging from the castle walls for years to come. There’s every chance she now believes what’s fed to her by The Machine, but in any event she’s not experienced enough in the political system to take this path on her own.

Higgins will be viewed by The Machine pushing this as one would a Chinese masonry drill bit. Use it to get the job done, and if it breaks you just get another one because they’re dirt cheap.

calli
calli
June 24, 2022 7:19 am

Recent reporting on Lisa Wilkinson by some media organisations has been inaccurate and unfair,” the Ten statement read.

“There are significant facts that cannot be disclosed until after the trial has concluded.

“This reporting is now causing significant harm

Riiiiiight…. “significant facts”. We know a secret but we can’t tell.

On the second matter of “significance” – quite so. To the accused, not the loudmouthed, narcissistic Channel 10 bobblehead.

Go ahead. Sue. Make my day.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2022 7:26 am

I should add a qualification here:

The ACT jacks want nothing to do with it, and resist for some time before the Ministerial pressure (a la Pell

VicJack wanted Pell in particular from the start.

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 7:27 am

Winston Smithsays:
June 24, 2022 at 6:58 am
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/06/biden-celebrates-green-policies-will-take-millions-cars-off-road-video/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=2022-06-23

“We’re investing nearly $100 billion in public transit” to “take millions of cars off the road,” he said.

Biden should easily be able to claim this just by allowing gas (petrol) to get to $US 10 a US gallon.

calli
calli
June 24, 2022 7:27 am

I’m not assigning a lot of blame to Brih-neee herself for this.

I am.

My taxes paid her salary. She was tasked with organising an event on my dime at which she got sh*tfaced and proceeded to a tryst at PH in a Minister’s Office. The erotic combination of power and cocking a snook at her superiors is not lost on me here.

Finding herself in hot water (naked and vomit everywhere plus some PH security witnesses), she does the usual fallback routine – the mean man made me do it! Whether either of them were competent enough to complete any sort of sexual congress is moot – there is no evidence to that effect.

It’s all bullsh*t on stilts and has been since day one. A normal woman would put it down to experience and move on. And I stress woman. But not this one. The showboating lure has been too strong for common sense.

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2022 7:33 am

“It’s all bullsh*t on stilts and has been since day one. “

Correct, a political hit job designed to make the Morrison government and the Liberals/Nationals look as though they have a “woman problem”. And it worked, because Morrison, being the spineless, supine, craven, cowardly quisling that he was, fell for it hook, line and sinker.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2022 7:33 am

Fair point calli.

Like I said, she expected a lifetime at the trough. And of course normal people put it in The Big Book of Experience and forgettorise it.

But there is zero chance the coven – perhaps promising the return of that lifelong troughing – didn’t seize on that opportunity and make her a modern-day Joan of Arc.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 7:35 am

“There are significant facts that cannot be disclosed until after the trial has concluded.

Perhaps.

“This reporting is now causing significant harm

Yes, from YOUR journalists.

Channel 10 has always been a joke, now they’re bracing their inner honklings.

dopey
dopey
June 24, 2022 7:35 am

Poor old Pirate Pete. Last in the rugby tipping and now a new crisis to deal with. Well, there could be a book in it…

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 7:36 am

Recent reporting on Lisa Wilkinson by some media organisations has been inaccurate and unfair,” the Ten statement read.

“There are significant facts that cannot be disclosed until after the trial has concluded.

“This reporting is now causing significant harm

Riiiiiight…. “significant facts”. We know a secret but we can’t tell.

On the second matter of “significance” – quite so. To the accused, not the loudmouthed, narcissistic Channel 10 bobblehead.

Go ahead. Sue. Make my day.

I would suggest that commenting on what Wilkinson said in her speech at the Logies is just “Free Speech” in action. Maybe Ch 10 have never heard of this part of a Free Society/Civilisation.

How will Ch 10 fare by going after all those Internet Blog comments or what Social Media (Gossip) has to say?

Methinks that Ch 10 would be on a hiding to nothing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 24, 2022 7:40 am

On his next appearance does he a) not stand in front of the flag, therefore alienating Australians even more, and losing even more votes, or b) stand in front of it, thus selling himself out?

Adam Bandit has a third choice, never to appear in public again?

calli
calli
June 24, 2022 7:47 am

I have to add something positive about Higgins in all fairness.

When she was able, she got dressed, went home and cleaned up. So far, so normal for a woman who has found herself at the other end of a stupid decision.

What happens next is all damage control – for her career. The report to the minister, the trip to the police and subsequent dropping of the complaint.

And she got what she wanted. She was not sacked but moved. The man was dismissed. It should have been left there, but politics intervened.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2022 7:48 am

“A third submission seeks funding for the Country Fire Authority to employ five assistant chief fire officer positions and 21 commander relievers.”

Of course he did, the petty little tyrant.

His Qango, Fire Rescue Victoria, is spending their time choking the life out of the industrial building sector with over the top regulation causing delays and costs for compliance.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2022 7:49 am

Missed a bit there.
I’m referring to TaliDan.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 7:49 am

“This reporting is now causing significant harm

Gas lighting is contagious.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2022 7:51 am

Son and heir, after he got home from work last night:

‘I have to do an English assignment during school holidays.’
‘Well you’re in Year 12, so yes. What’s it on?’

‘Ohhhhh it’s this stupid story.’
‘What is it?’

Flowers for Algernon, or something.’
‘The short story or novel?’

‘Novel.’
‘Aaaaaahahahahahahaaaa. Sucker.’

Frank
Frank
June 24, 2022 7:52 am

“There are significant facts that cannot be disclosed until after the trial has concluded.
“This reporting is now causing significant harm

Neither of these statements have anything to do with the fact that she gave that potentially illegal speech at the Logies. Typical slippery lawyerly noise to distract.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 7:52 am

The voir dire ought to be the death of the Higgins matter.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 24, 2022 7:54 am

The voir dire ought to be the death of the Higgins matter.

Yes it should.

Should.

Franx
Franx
June 24, 2022 7:54 am

The Higgins dress was cleaned. The intention was that the woman wanted to wear it again. No?

Frank
Frank
June 24, 2022 7:55 am

“The erotic combination of power and cocking a snook at her superiors is not lost on me here.”

For some reason, probably context, the dyslexia kicked in for the bolded term.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 24, 2022 8:02 am

Franksays:
June 24, 2022 at 7:55 am
“The erotic combination of power and cocking a snook at her superiors is not lost on me here.”

For some reason, probably context, the dyslexia kicked in for the bolded term.

A Spoonerism? Snooking a …..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2022 8:02 am

“We’re investing nearly $100 billion in public transit” to “take millions of cars off the road,” he said.

Is that like the public transit that people are being mugged on each day in Democrat cities denuded of police?

JC
JC
June 24, 2022 8:08 am

Might buy a Glock and carry it around in NY.

🙂

Leftheads are going to go nuts.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 24, 2022 8:09 am

“We’re investing nearly $100 billion in public transit” to “take millions of cars off the road,” he said.
As Glenn reynolds says: Public transport is like picking up 20 random hitchhikers at once.

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 8:10 am

“The erotic combination of power and cocking a snook at her superiors is not lost on me here.”

For some reason, probably context, the dyslexia kicked in for the bolded term.

A Spoonerism? Snooking a …..

One of my favourite Spoonerism’s is –

“In the words of Dr. Spooner, you are a shinning wit”…………………

calli
calli
June 24, 2022 8:10 am

Lol. I thought you’d enjoy that expression in connection with the idiotic imbroglio.

The dress was cleaned because vomit. We know this because witnesses. Unlike Ms Monica’s garment, the presence of any other bodily fluids is pure conjecture.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 24, 2022 8:10 am

JC

Leftheads are going to go nuts.

Waddya mean “are going to”? Leftards have been nuts for decades.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 8:11 am

How depraved is Hollywood when Charlie Sheen is the voice of reason.

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 8:16 am

132andBushsays:
June 24, 2022 at 7:15 am
Gabor says:
June 24, 2022 at 5:30 am

I noticed that as well.

Looks like the Ed Random Word Generator has been programmed to interrupt Tom’s toons.

A Suitable “Case” for Treatment no less…………………………

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 8:23 am

Finally, weather forecast says a few days of fine weather ahead.

Long range forecast is for a dry winter.

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 8:38 am

The Senate swearing in of Lidia Thorpe who has said that the Australian Parliament has no permission to be here and said her role was to infiltrate the Senate and question the colonial system.

https://youtu.be/lPlmdWk1EDE

What a hypocrite to say the least.

Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2022 8:40 am

And this, just when America is throwing babies to the pharma wolves.

danish national board of health admits vaccinating kids for covid was a mistake

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 24, 2022 8:41 am

From Westprint Maps. Oldies but goodies.

Friday Funnies

A priest, a doctor, and an engineer were waiting one morning for a particularly slow group of golfers.

The engineer fumed, “What’s with those guys? We’ve been waiting for fifteen minutes!

The doctor chimed in, “I don’t think I’ve ever seen such inept golf!

The priest said, “Here comes the green-keeper. Let’s have a word with him.” He said, “Hello George, What’s wrong with that group ahead of us? They’re rather slow, aren’t they?

The green-keeper replied, “Oh, yes. That’s a group of blind firemen. They lost their sight saving our clubhouse from a fire last year, so we always let them play for free anytime!

The group fell silent for a moment.

The priest said, “That’s so sad. I’ll say a special prayer for them tonight.

The doctor said, “Good idea. I’ll contact my ophthalmologist colleague and see if here’s anything she can do for them.

The engineer said, “Why can’t they play at night?

The graduate with a science degree asks, “Why does it work?

The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, “How does it work?

The graduate with a Commerce degree asks, “How much will it cost?”

The graduate with an arts degree asks, “Do you want fries with that?

Two engineering students were riding bicycles across a university campus when one said, “Where did you get the great bike?”

The second engineer replied, “Well, I was walking yesterday, minding my own business, when a beautiful woman rode up on this bike, threw it to the ground, took off all her clothes and said, “Take what you want.”

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 24, 2022 8:42 am

It’s dead calm and totally socked in.
It’d be dead silent too, under mØnty’s Time for someone else to have a go.
They may fail, but they deserve a chance.
energy plan.
Except no-one has to wait for the fog to burn off so the electric SUV can finish charging up for the school run.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2022 8:42 am

ABC running a story that wheat shortages and prices are causing the big rises on baked goods.
While the price of wheat is historically high, there’s no shortage in Australia and prices are similar to levels that occurred during the big droughts just past.
The problem is energy costs for processors and bakers plus the labour and supplies shortage.
The ABC misleads and misinforms as usual.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 24, 2022 8:44 am

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Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2022 8:44 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 24, 2022 8:45 am

No doubt the defence will raise the issue of Higgins setting up a company with her name.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2022 8:45 am

The dress was cleaned because vomit. We know this because witnesses. Unlike Ms Monica’s garment, the presence of any other bodily fluids is pure conjecture.

Indeed.

Worth remembering:

“My client absolutely and unequivocally denies that any form of sexual activity took place whatsoever.
“He will defend the charge.”

Balls on the line (as it were).
No backup position.
Didn’t happen.

Now. this may be a brass face ‘you can’t prove it’ defence.

But it will be interesting to see whether the standard of ‘reasonable doubt’ is trumped by parliamentary apologies, endorsement by celebrity mates, Press Club worship, and the ultimate in forensic evidence – a Logie acceptance speech.

A lot turns on this.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 8:49 am

What a hypocrite to say the least.

“Solemnly and sincerely swear..”

Thorpe has done this country one great service. Is the likes of her who will comprise an Aboriginal voice to Parliament?

Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2022 8:53 am

Calli said recently that she now understands how revolutions happen. We’ve been discussing and criticising the way the recent school shooting was handled by the police just standing by and letting it happen but the simple fact is that a handful of mostly geriatric people have been and are overseeing the deliberate death and destruction of millions of people with, apparently, no pushback at all.

S.C. Democrat: ‘The Whole System of Gov’t is Being Run by a Geriatric Oligarchy’

Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2022 8:58 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2022 9:00 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2022 9:05 am
shatterzzz
June 24, 2022 9:08 am

Something bothering me about the high price of some vegetables at the moment .. is it realistic or just profit?
Take Brussel sprouts or Swedes (turnips) as examples .. Sprouts @ Colesworths averaging $15kg and Swedes $6kg .. yet both are winter vegetables and in their element the colder it gets! .. when I was a kid growing up in County Durham, England the sprout stalks ( sprouts grow on stalks for those who might not know .. LOL!) would pop up thru half a metre of snow .. no probs! .. swedes grow underground (like potatoes) but aren’t in the east bothered by snow/frost/ice …
So what is causing high prices during the picking season .. gotta be either not many folk grow these two vegetables anymore or given that they should be in abundance .. PROFIT!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 24, 2022 9:09 am

I didn’t realise that, when Dolph Lundgren was as scientist mercenary in The Expendables that it echoed reality.

The other guy in the image is treated by media as the Lord High Justice on matters of science. The same preference for manufactured credibility underwrites all the less generic (but even more revered) experts that have been bleeding the life from our society by ‘The Death of a Thousand Cuts’.

Indolent
Indolent
June 24, 2022 9:13 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 9:14 am

The DOJ didn’t just raid one GOP home overnight.
There was a sweep.
How the fuck is this happening.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 24, 2022 9:16 am

From science.org

The intersectional privilege of white able-bodied heterosexual men in STEM

The author has a queerbio entry so you can probably guess the discussion notes at the end.

flyingduk
flyingduk
June 24, 2022 9:20 am

If you believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty, the lack of a fair trial means you are innocent.

If you believe in that concept you have never been charged with a criminal offence. During my bail hearing after being arrested at the Canberra protest, 2 things stood out.

1) I was referred to as ‘the offender’, NOT the ‘accused’.
2) The judge asked for the ‘facts sheet’ – which consisted of the police ALLEGATIONS – when I pointed out that these allegations would be contested, the judge replied ‘well, I have to go by the facts’

Now do you understand its is NOT a JUSTICE system?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2022 9:24 am

The other guy in the image is treated by media as the Lord High Justice on matters of science.

I gave up my decades-long membership of the Planetary Society when Nye was appointed. That was in 2010…even then he was a complete climate looney.

amortiser
amortiser
June 24, 2022 9:24 am

Ed Case says:
June 24, 2022 at 4:09 am
Every accused person deserves a fair trial and that is not possible if members of the media undermine the judicial process.
Oh yeah?
Ever heard of Chris Dawson and how The Australian ran it’s own Murder Trial against him for years?

The interests of alleged victims are not served by prejudicing a trial.
Why say “alleged victim” instead of “Justice”?
Aren’t you subtly trying to influence perceptions there?

What an idiot. All that publicity occurred before any charges were laid. Dick Ed can’t figure the distinction. Once charges are laid comments prejudicial to the conduct of the trial are off limits.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 9:25 am

Notorious Perth pedophile, Bradley Pen Dragon is back in the tronk, forty eight hours after being released….

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 24, 2022 9:27 am

I gave up my decades-long membership of the Planetary Society when Nye was appointed

I never did get around to joining although Bud Schurmeier sent me the application forms. (Look him up)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 9:30 am

Shepard with his dog and flock are sailing to the Antipodes after being evicted during the Highland Clearance. His ship is wrecked and only him, his dog and sheep make it to shore. He manages to find enough food and shelter to survive. After six months he is feeling lonely but every time he gets close to one of his flock the dog barks and the sheep run off. One day he sees a body floating in the water. He wades out and pulls it ashore. It is a beautiful young woman, he revives her and when she recovers asks if she can do absolutely anything at all for him. Without hesitation he says ” can you hold my dog”.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 24, 2022 9:31 am

Liberal Twitter is going nuts over 2A SCOTUS decision.

I do hope this is a squirrel from Roberts in advance of the Roe decision announcement. My fear is Roberts will sit on that decision forever, which could cause a potentially Scotus-killing fiasco. I hope he realizes that would be much more dangerous than releasing the judgement. (Surber says today he suspects it was Roberts who leaked the draft, ie not the liberal staffer.)

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 24, 2022 9:33 am

I made a meme.
Monkey Pox = King Gon.
Gonorrhea, get it?
What happens now? The internet takes it from here, or do I have to tip off AI?

duncanm
duncanm
June 24, 2022 9:33 am

Clare says that is impossible because she has Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and ‘high-functioning autism’.

..
Lauren said Clare – who claims to have ”the attention span of a gnat’ – struggles to complete everyday tasks which includes reminders for Ms Brown to eat.

yeh, nah

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 9:42 am

Bandt has successfully managed to paint himself into a corner on this one. On his next appearance does he a) not stand in front of the flag, therefore alienating Australians even more, and losing even more votes, or b) stand in front of it, thus selling himself out?

I predict all his press conference will henceforth be held outdoors.

rosie
rosie
June 24, 2022 9:42 am

Politics intervened?
I thought it was her and her current bf who created a ‘dossier’, for personal reasons, political ambitions, revenge, fame, fortune, whatever, that got this ball rolling.
I don’t even believe anything sexual took place in the office, timing supports her following him in, passing out while he fiddled around doing whatever he went there for, and him deciding to leave her in situ.
Who know when and why she decided to undress?

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 24, 2022 9:51 am

Protester arrested after twerking in front of cops gets $75K settlement

PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) – A woman who said she was falsely arrested after twerking to NWA’s “F*** Tha Police” at a Black Lives Matter rally in Portland received $75,000 from the city in a settlement.

Image

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2022 9:53 am

Indolentsays:
June 24, 2022 at 9:13 am
Suicide by hanging with a shotgun blast to the chest.

Apparently the best way to stop speculation and conspiracy theories is to hide the evidence.

Im sure that will work well.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 9:59 am

Looking for relevance, Adam?

Greens threaten to amend budget unless government dumps top-end tax cuts
Katina Curtis
By Katina Curtis
June 23, 2022 — 8.45pm

Greens leader Adam Bandt is preparing to fight the government over already-legislated tax cuts but has stopped short of threatening the passage of supply bills if Labor doesn’t dump them in its October budget.

Bandt will use a speech to the Queensland Press Club on Friday to outline how he hopes to push the government to act on equality and climate change, calling for it to drop the cuts that deliver major tax relief to people on higher incomes and stop gas companies claiming tax credits.

If the government doesn’t do that, the Greens “will seek to amend the first budget”, he will say according to speech excerpts.

“The Greens will not support a Labor budget based on cuts that hurt everyday people while continuing the handouts to billionaires,” Bandt will say.

“This is where Labor should find savings. But we are worried that Labor won’t have the guts to do what’s necessary.”

The party will hold the balance of power in the Senate, where it now has 12 seats. Labor will need its support plus that of one other crossbencher to pass legislation opposed by the Coalition.

Bandt said the party wanted to be constructive but would not be a rubber stamp.

However, he stopped short of threatening to block supply if the government did not make the changes.

Instead, the Greens have flagged they may seek changes to other legislation enacting parts of the budget outside the appropriations bills that ensure money continues flowing for government functions.

Under the stage-three tax cuts, which were legislated in 2018 by then-treasurer Scott Morrison, the 37 per cent tax bracket will be abolished, the top 45 per cent bracket will start from $200,000 and the 32.5 per cent rate will be cut to 30 per cent for all incomes between $45,000 and $200,000.

The cuts are on track to cost the budget $37 billion a year by the early 2030s, according to costings by the Parliamentary Budget Office that the Greens released during the election.

JC
JC
June 24, 2022 10:01 am

Unless things have changed, at least in NYC, it was extremely difficult to get a permit to buy a gun.

From my recollection, you personally had to attend a dungeon somewhere in the Bronx and apply there. You were required to go a couple of times and the wait could literally be hours before they rudely called you. Even a dot placed incorrectly would in the masses of difficult forms couldcause you to go back and reapply.

I’m not sure this SCOTUS finding will change much in this respect.

Again, it could have changed over the last two decades but I doubt it.

Zipster
Zipster
June 24, 2022 10:06 am

The day before the Shanghai explosion, a grand ceremony to launch an aircraft carrier was held here
At around 4:00 in the morning on June 18th, some Shanghai residents heard multiple loud bangs in their sleep, followed by the sight of blazing flames in the sky. The incredible scene made some of them even think that war had suddenly broken out between China and the US.
The most confusing one is: that three fires broke out at the same time in the petrochemical plant area, and they were distant from each other. Why did three places that are so far apart explode and catch fire at the same time?
The day before the explosion, on June 17, another big event took place in Shanghai. The CCP’s third aircraft carrier, Fujian, was launched in Shanghai. This carrier, unlike the previous Liaoning and Shandong ships, has a sliding jump deck.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 24, 2022 10:09 am

The wireless just reminded me it’s the anniversary of the most consequential moment in the history of the Commonwealth.
Twelve years ago, that young and naive solicitor, Miss O’Gyny, blew off the patriarchy to become the most powerful wahman in the land.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
June 24, 2022 10:10 am

Wind farm’s connection to power grid causes lights to flicker across South Australia

A connection between Port Augusta Renewable Energy Park and the national electricity grid is under investigation for causing lights to flicker and dim across South Australia for hours this morning.

Energy distributor ElectraNet said the privately-owned power generator connected its new wind farm to the grid in South Australia’s north about 1:30am, causing a “voltage issue”.

There have been widespread reports of house and street lights flickering across the state as a result.

South Australian Energy Minister Tom Koutsantonis said the issue was not related to AEMO’s gradual end to its intervention to wholesale price caps, which started from 4am and would go for 24 hours.

The minister stopped short of assigning blame but said it could be “a connection issue”.

“We don’t know what the actual cause is. We know the source of the problem but we don’t know who was causing it,” he said.

“It could have been [the] renewable energy park, it could have been ElectraNet.”

ElectraNet said it worked with the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) to identify the cause and the third party was disconnected from the network.

It said power supplies returned to normal about 5:30am.

ElectraNet interim chief executive Rainer Korte said the fluctuations had less of an impact than they otherwise would have because the wind farm generator concerned was only in the commissioning phase.

“We don’t like to see these impacts, but the reason we take a cautious approach to commissioning the gradual release of capacity is exactly for this reason — to identify any issues and limit the impact of any issues that may be identified,” he said.

Mr Koutsantonis said large operators such as GFG and BHP noticed the “voltage fluctuations”.

He denies there was an inherent problem with renewable energy.

“I don’t think it was anything malicious or dangerous. I just think it’s probably testing, probably either a new generator that’s attempting to establish its connection to the grid after commission,” he told ABC Radio Adelaide this morning.

“There was testing and as demand started to increase into the day, they pulled the testing and the flickering stopped.”

Premier Peter Malinauskas said ElectraNet controlled the transmission lines from power stations to localised networks.

“The transmission lines issue sits with ElectraNet and apparently there’s a frequency issue there with one of their feeders,” he said.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 24, 2022 10:14 am

Jab jab booster…………………..

Bombshell Study: mRNA COVID-19 Vaccine Serious Adverse Event Risks Significantly Higher than Risk of COVID-19

https://www.trialsitenews.com/a/bombshell-study-mrna-covid-19-vaccine-serious-adverse-event-risks-significantly-higher-than-risk-of-covid-19-c5e4f518

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 24, 2022 10:15 am

I’m not sure this SCOTUS finding will change much in this respect.

JC, Anthony Cumia who is a certified gun nut said nothing changed based on today’s announcement for NY.
There are different rules for NY city versus NY state too.
For example, in NYC it might change the charge.
For example, if the NYPD pull you over and you have a gun in the car, you might not be charged with one thing, you might be charged with brandishing a weapon contrary to what a sane person would say brandishing means.

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 10:16 am

The DOJ didn’t just raid one GOP home overnight.
There was a sweep.
How the fuck is this happening.

I imagine this was the same reaction that Republicans had when Watergate heated up.

The answer is that they are all crooks.

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 10:20 am

You can tell they are all crooks by the amount of requests for pardons that they made to Trump… mostly ignored lol.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 10:26 am

Duk

Only a minor traffic offence.

It was complete bullshit. I won.

You are correct – most magistrates have relegated themselves to rubber stamping the police accusations.

It is a culture that seriously needs to end.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 24, 2022 10:29 am

Ruth Barr, the elderly mother of Clare’s wife Lauren told Daily Mail Australia her unemployed daughter-in-law couldn’t work because ‘she hates crowds, can’t concentrate and people hate her because she’s gay’.

Surely a charity would give her a job of some sort if she would agree to offer them some financial benefit later? She might even find she enjoys life more if she gets out and about a bit helping others instead of excuse-making.

If she loses her inheritance due to lack of a job then she deserves to lose it.

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 10:29 am

Allahpundit is coming in hot this morning:

There were at least three separate coup plots to the “stop the steal” effort, all of which overlapped but which remain distinct in their particulars. One was the effort to convince officials in swing states won by Biden to somehow undo the results, even appointing alternate pro-Trump slates of electors if need be. Another was pressuring Mike Pence to refuse to accept the electors from Biden swing states on January 6, which would have forced the House to decide the election.

But the most sinister one is the one that’s least known to Americans, the eleventh-hour attempt to install a no-name “rigged election” crank as acting Attorney General at the DOJ so that he could use the Justice Department’s resources — and credibility — to propagate the belief that the election had been stolen. Never mind that every major figure at the department, from former AG Bill Barr to acting AG Jeffrey Rosen to top deputies like Richard Donoghue, insisted that the subject had been investigated and no fraud was found.

That no-name crank was Jeffrey Clark, a lawyer in the DOJ’s civil division. If a single meeting held in the Oval Office on January 3, 2021 had gone differently, he’d be an infamous figure in American history today, assuming America still existed.

He should be an infamous figure in American history anyway. The January 6 committee is doing what it can to make sure that he is.

That is why his house got raided this morning.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 24, 2022 10:32 am

The poetic lyrics of James Reyne:

Dulles not gay
No more footsteps poppin’
The angels party
Enrique’s in the Nova
Con me, con me
Pick up the painful and die, oh my numb bar
We don’t even know words to rhyme
Wheat goes in the pretty false lumber

I’ll be your garden line
I’ll be your fake surrender
You never know what’s rye
I’ll be your silent centre wood

One mild raver, one mild raver
But I still got along, girl
One mild raver, one mild raver
But I still got a long girl to go

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 24, 2022 10:34 am

There have been widespread reports of house and street lights flickering across the state as a result.

Just the thing for your new computer. Not.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 10:37 am

Oh no, not you again OCO. Sounds like Chinese tricks to me.

Remember you only get one chance.

Remember, we’re the nicest of people.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
June 24, 2022 10:38 am

CHICAGO — Chicago police officers will no longer be allowed to chase people on foot simply because they run away or they’ve committed minor offenses, the department said Tuesday,

Chicago Police Superintendent David Brown said he expects the new policy will make the officers and the public safer

Perhaps most significantly, the policy makes clear that the days of officers giving chase just because someone tries to avoid them are over.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 10:39 am

Got a piss up this weekend. I am going to get absolutely dorsetted.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 24, 2022 10:44 am

m0nty gets off on a good old fashioned show trial, eh? I’m sure there must be footage of court proceedings adjudicated by Roland Freisler and Vasiliy Ulrikh up on YouTube. That stuff would really work m0nts’s crank.

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 24, 2022 10:47 am

Dot,

Your bin hanging with the noxious weeds
Oh a ham, a hay
Some silk gets ripped by weevils
A ham, a hay

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2022 10:50 am

Monty pronouncing guilt befre the show trials are over?

Hows Mullerween going lardass?

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 10:53 am

Rogersays:
June 24, 2022 at 9:42 am
Bandt has successfully managed to paint himself into a corner on this one. On his next appearance does he a) not stand in front of the flag, therefore alienating Australians even more, and losing even more votes, or b) stand in front of it, thus selling himself out?

I predict all his press conference will henceforth be held outdoors.

Adam “Piss Ant” Bandt should now be instructed to hold all of his Press Talkfests outdoors under a large tree in the middle of a thunderstorm with the Press asking him questions via a Zoom session well away from the Green energy powered lightning bolts. That should spark some interest in proceedings………………….

Oh come on
Oh come on
June 24, 2022 10:57 am

One mall leaver, one mall leaver
But I still got a long gun

OR

One more waiver, one more waiver
But I still got a law girl

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 10:58 am

dover0beachsays:
June 24, 2022 at 10:50 am
insisted that the subject had been investigated and no fraud was found.

Sure, sure, they had teams in WI and GA investigating.

Apparently, there is plenty of evidence shown in that 2000 Mules Doco.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2022 11:00 am

They had the excerable Thorpe on ABCcess being given a fluid check and fundament regroove this morning.

There is no bigger obstacle to everything she claims to want than her own self.

This is verbatim, “There couldnt have been reconciliation 21 years ago because Australia was too racist a country”.

And Bess price calling her on her bullshit is “the media making it a fight between 2 blak ladies”…

Radio off after the 21 years remark, just a vile little harpy

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2022 11:02 am

Monty thinks this is normal for a functioning executive.

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1540086493829545985

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2022 11:07 am

South Australia:

There have been widespread reports of house and street lights flickering across the state as a result.

Voltage excursions. What happens when your power is being supplied by asynchronous renewables.

But it’s a mystery.
Apparently.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 11:10 am

But it’s a mystery.
Apparently.

Not to worry…someone from AEMO with a MBA is investigating.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 11:10 am

Dotsays:
June 24, 2022 at 10:39 am
Got a piss up this weekend. I am going to get absolutely dorsetted.

For a second there I thought you wrote corsetted. Maybe a spelling mistake on your part. I’ve turned into a two pot screamer. and I get the beaut headaches. I have to temper my drinking.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 11:12 am

Apartheid segregationist unAustralian Senator Lidia Thorpe’s ‘mob-only’ meeting

Michael Smith.

“Meet your Senators. “Mob Only” online “Q and A.”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2022 11:18 am

The party will hold the balance of power in the Senate, where it now has 12 seats. Labor will need its support plus that of one other crossbencher to pass legislation opposed by the Coalition.

Bandt said the party wanted to be constructive but would not be a rubber stamp.

Having handed such a degree of power in government to these appalling fuckers, Australia owns the result.

The best we can hope for is that it’s a ‘learning experience’, and a succession of valuable ‘teachable moments’.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 11:20 am

Voltage excursions.

I’ve had voltage excursions, helping my mate welding. The electrode stuck and stupid me lifted the bracket of the frame. Bare arms leaning on the frame. thump,thump,thump, thump, thump, thump, Thump, Thump, THUMP THUMP
THUMP. My heart took a pounding.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 24, 2022 11:22 am

lyrics of James Reyne

Someone has translated them?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 11:23 am

thefrollickingmolesays:
June 24, 2022 at 10:50 am
Monty pronouncing guilt befre the show trials are over?

Hows Mullerween going lardass?

Any day………………………?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 11:25 am

Someone has translated them?

Into the English language?

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 24, 2022 11:27 am

Double-down time:

Outspoken Victorian Greens Senator Lidia Thorpe has called the Queen a “coloniser” as she labelled fellow Indigenous Senator Jacinta Price’s “personal attack” on Thursday “absolutely disgusting.”

Earlier this week, Senator Thorpe had said the Australian parliament had no permission to be here, that her role as an Indigenous woman was to “infiltrate” the senate and that the Australian flag represented colonisation.

Reaffirming her calls for Australia to become a republic on Friday, the Greens said “colonisation of this country is coming to an end”.

“How many Australians in this country wake up and put their hands on their heart for the colonising Queen?” she questioned.

Senator Price, who has been newly elected in the Northern Territory, slammed Senator Thorpe’s comments on Thursday, labelling them “childish” and “divisive” as she called on the Greens Senator to recognise her privilege.

Speaking to RN Breakfast this morning, Senator Thorpe doubled down on her comments, saying that the Australian flag represents “dispossession, massacre and genocide,” as she called out the media for “pitting two black Senators against each other.”

The Senator accused Australians of ‘bringing out the popcorn’ for an argument between two black women.

“I understand that it sells papers and it sells news,” she said. “But I’m not going to participate in that.”

Denying that refusing to stand in front of the Australian flag was divisive, Senator Thorpe called on Greens voters who have questioned her views on the flag to listen to the concerns of Indigenous children who don’t identify with the flag or the national anthem.

“The colonial project came here and murdered our people. I’m sorry we’re not happy about that,” she said.

“If people are going to get a little bit upset along the way, well that’s just part of the truth telling. The truth hurts.”

Oz with comments open if you can leap the paywall

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 24, 2022 11:32 am

Like many people, I work on the basis that the media generally represents the viewpoint of a wannabe elite. To use Rita Panahi’s carefully carved phrase, a “noxious brand of self-delighted arsehattery”.

It’s a sober reflection that so much of what is happening around us at the moment – inflation, collapse of the power system, politicisation of justice, failure of the Commonwealth/State relationship, unvoted introduction of Marxist Green government – was utterly predictable (and was widely predicted here) and yet has still come as a complete surprise to the commentariat.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 11:34 am

Speaking to RN Breakfast this morning, Senator Thorpe doubled down on her comments, saying that the Australian flag represents “dispossession, massacre and genocide,

Interesting point of view. By those standards, doesn’t the Aboriginal flag represent “infanticide, cannibalism and violence towards women?”

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 24, 2022 11:36 am

“How many Australians in this country wake up and put their hands on their heart for the colonising Queen?” she questioned.

Haven’t previously, but now will.
Thanks for the tip, numbslunt.

Cassie of Sydney
June 24, 2022 11:38 am

“Indigenous Senator Jacinta Price’s “personal attack” on Thursday “absolutely disgusting.””

Speaking of “absolutely disgusting”….this is the same Lidia Thorpe* who, in the Senate late last year, said to Senator Holly Hughes “at least I keep my legs shut” during a Senate debate.

Thorpe is a stain on parliament. In fact, all the Greens are.

Oh and from hereon I refuse to call this person a “senator”. She’s a disgrace to parliament, actually she’s a disgrace to this country.

Oh and she should change her name, “Thorpe” is cultural appropriation.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 11:40 am

This is hilarious.

Between them, Thorpe & Bandt are going to sink any chance of Elbow’s two signature policies, indigenous recognition & a republic, gaining the public support they need to get up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 11:41 am

Between them, Thorpe & Bandt are going to sink any chance of Elbow’s two signature policies, indigenous recognition & a republic

What price an Aboriginal voice to Parliament?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 24, 2022 11:42 am

When are the memes ridiculing Bandt & Thorpe going to surface?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 24, 2022 11:43 am

m0nty gets off on a good old fashioned show trial, eh?

There is an established pattern where a government becomes a thug, sadistically persecuting (and prosecuting) those it sees standing against it – that is the bully way. And there is always a crowd of little people who ally themselves to the bully because they believe they can get the bully to take out the noble, the virtuous, the faithful, the honest – those whom the little people, embarrassed by their own contrasting mean natures, viscerally despise.

And they think they are safe.

But the thugs feel no such loyalty to any of the little people. As a mass, sure they are useful. Individually – well they can be made useful yet. When capricious need, momentary benefit, or scapegoating is required little people will be hauled shackled and abandoned, unable to fathom what is happening, for a judgement long since decided. Protesting their loyalty all the way. And dispatched without the least whit of sympathy from anyone, anywhere.

Reminds me of the character Tom Parsons in 1984 – after fearfully expressing bumbling pride in his daughter who had turned him in to the Thought Police, he then desperately seeks pitiable reassurance from Winston that he is too useful to the party to be killed, then as soon as the PA announces that he must go to Room 101 instantly turns on Winston and begs the disembodied voice to take Winston instead.

Parsons is rotund, sweaty, and stupid too. The similarities are ineluctable.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
June 24, 2022 11:43 am

Thanks for the History Hub, OldOzzie.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2022 11:45 am

Interesting point of view. By those standards, doesn’t the Aboriginal flag represent “infanticide, cannibalism and violence towards women?”

Wrong sort of truth ZK2A, wrong sort of truth.

Almost as unpopular as “defeated by tea, flour and tobacco”

Tom
Tom
June 24, 2022 11:46 am

Good to see Blot’s Sky News daily ratings are unaffected by his absence on holidays. His fill-in — the host of Sunday morning’s Outsiders Rowan Dean — is at least as popular in Blot’s slot at 7pm Monday to Friday, consistently attracting 50,000-55,000 viewers.

The only ratings disaster at the moment at Sky News Australia is Piers Morgan, recently signed up to do a weeknight show in a $US63 million global deal with News Corp.

Viewers Down Under were curious at first, delivering Sky News Australia a respectable 55,000 nightly viewers.

But that quickly disappeared. Piers Morgan Uncensored is no longer in Australian pay TV’s top 20 daily programs because fewer than 20,000 people are bothering to watch.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 24, 2022 11:47 am

Almost as unpopular as “defeated by tea, flour and tobacco”

Pay that one!

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 11:52 am

the noble, the virtuous, the faithful, the honest

Nah. Just the criminals who planned a coup and insurrection.

johanna
johanna
June 24, 2022 11:58 am

Indolent says:
June 24, 2022 at 8:55 am

How the 1911 murder of a New York novelist by a mentally ill concert violinist led to the strictest gun law in the country which has now been struck down by SCOTUS

Interesting story. Note that the dissenting Justices (the usual suspects) focused on gun crime rather than the law and the Constitution.

This law has been in effect in NY state for more than 100 years. How effective has it been in preventing gun-related crime compared to other jurisdictions?

Answer: Not very.

If nothing else, the appointment of two SCOTUS judges who are not raging liberals is a proud monument to Trump’s Presidency.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 24, 2022 11:58 am

Rogersays:

June 24, 2022 at 11:40 am

This is hilarious.

Between them, Thorpe & Bandt are going to sink any chance of Elbow’s two signature policies, indigenous recognition & a republic

Correct.
Let them run off at the mouth at every opportunity, and then watch Elbow tie himself in knots trying to distance himself from them (and getting himself labelled as waaaacist in the process).

sfw
sfw
June 24, 2022 12:01 pm

TE, went to the Australian on the link and no comments at all that I can see, I posted one but it’s in moderation, probably won’t be posted, I haven’t had a comment approved for a month or two.

John Sheldrick
June 24, 2022 12:06 pm

m0ntysays:
June 24, 2022 at 11:52 am
the noble, the virtuous, the faithful, the honest

Nah. Just the criminals who planned a coup and insurrection.

It’s a strange sort Insurrection when there is plenty of CCTV evidence of the Police opening the doors and letting the “Protesters” into the Building.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 24, 2022 12:10 pm

I may be stating the bleeding obvious but Lidia Thorpe does not appear to be very bright. When even Walid Aly snorts in amusement to her dumb answer the other night about Derren Hinch’s comments, she does seem deficient intellectually.
Wikipedia is silent on her education. Does anyone know if she has any academic qualifications?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 12:14 pm

Almost as unpopular as “defeated by tea, flour and tobacco”

Surprised the indig industry hasn’t put in a claim for making them addicted to smokes, bread making them gluten intolerant and tea burning their mouths.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 12:16 pm

Wikipedia is silent on her education. Does anyone know if she has any academic qualifications?

Her parliamentary web page mentions only the following:

CertIVIndLead (Australian Indigenous Leadership Centre).
DipCmtyDev (Swinburne University of Technology).
Grad(AICD) (Australian Institute of Company Directors).
GradCertMgt(PubPol) (La Trobe University).

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 12:17 pm

Does anyone know if she has any academic qualifications?

Yes, PHD from the Boob Brown School of Scum. Maybe an exaggeration, passed kindy, learnt where the trough was. All she needed.

johanna
johanna
June 24, 2022 12:19 pm

shatterzzz says:
June 24, 2022 at 9:08 am

Something bothering me about the high price of some vegetables at the moment .. is it realistic or just profit?
Take Brussel sprouts or Swedes (turnips) as examples .. Sprouts @ Colesworths averaging $15kg

As a B. sprouts fan, I pay attention to prices. Last winter they were around $12 a kilo at Coles. So, it’s a 25% increase at your local – I’ll check mine next time I’m there.

I don’t know where they are grown for our local market, and if it is somewhere that got drowned in the floods, I’ll give them a pass. Otherwise, fuel costs have risen bla bla, but 25% is pretty steep.

rickw
rickw
June 24, 2022 12:24 pm

How many more lies before the Australian Sheep wake up?

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 12:24 pm

The Brussels Sprouts Index

$14.50kg Coles

$15.00kg WW

Frozen $5 kg

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 12:26 pm

Wow, first Bandt and now Thorpe. You lot are massively triggered. Lucky you have a safe space here to whinge about it.

rickw
rickw
June 24, 2022 12:28 pm

Wow, first Bandt and now Thorpe. You lot are massively triggered. Lucky you have a safe space here to whinge about it.

No one here is triggered.

You are a clown.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2022 12:30 pm

GreyRanga says:
June 24, 2022 at 9:30 am
Shepard with his dog and flock are sailing to the Antipodes after being evicted during the Highland Clearance.

Excuse me there Ranga, where’s the attribution for this story?
It’s a synopsis from a longer novel that received a prestigious award for romantic fiction in NZ.

rickw
rickw
June 24, 2022 12:30 pm

Nah. Just the criminals who planned a coup and insurrection.

No narrative disbelieved.

Even Democrats aren’t buying this.

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 12:32 pm

Thorpe’s comments are calculated to bring the worst people out of the woodwork to attack them. Then we all get to see who the worst people are.

Unsurprisingly, you lot think she’s the Antichrist.

Kneel
Kneel
June 24, 2022 12:32 pm

“Unless things have changed, at least in NYC, it was extremely difficult to get a permit to buy a gun.

I’m not sure this SCOTUS finding will change much in this respect.”

SCOTUS ruled that such denial to obtain a firearm by the state breached the 14th amendment, and confirmed that being able to buy a firearm and carrying a firearm in public is a 2nd amendment protected activity.
Don’t forget that at least 25 states in the US are now “constitutional carry” – you need no permit, even for concealed carry. Florida will shortly become the 26th state.
FYI, most gun deaths – including most “mass shooting” events – happen where the strictest gun laws are: NYC, Chicago etc. Such nuts want to make sure no-one will shoot back.

rickw
rickw
June 24, 2022 12:34 pm

It’s a synopsis from a longer novel that received a prestigious award for romantic fiction in NZ.

Sheep and shepherd at the bow, limbs outstretched, staring unto the sunset. Dave Dobbin and the herbs playing softly in the background!

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
June 24, 2022 12:35 pm

Thorpe and Bandt are both drongos, but clearly they trump Monty in intellect.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 12:35 pm

Wow, first Bandt and now Thorpe. You lot are massively triggered.

On the contrary, I’m looking forward to these two disrupting Elbow’s agenda for the next three years.

LOL.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 24, 2022 12:36 pm

sfw, 9 comments so far, mine not one of them. Probably the Oz moderators are being rather careful at present, with defamation writs flying around. I only manage to get comments up by being rather gentle.

I notice comments about whether an aboriginal person is or is not, esp. depending on what colour they are, always get blocked at the Oz.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 12:39 pm

Thorpe’s comments are calculated to bring the worst people out of the woodwork to attack them. Then we all get to see who the worst people are.

Warren Mundine, Jacinta Price & Waleed Aly.

The axis of evil.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2022 12:42 pm

m0ntysays:
June 24, 2022 at 12:32 pm
Thorpe’s comments are calculated to bring the worst people out of the woodwork to attack them. Then we all get to see who the worst people are.

Unsurprisingly, you lot think she’s the Antichrist.

More like this Monty.

or this.

And as mentioned, shes a problem for the pro side of any reconciliation, rather than those who think its decisive flogbaggery which will end in tears for all concerned.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2022 12:43 pm

m0nty says:
June 24, 2022 at 12:32 pm
Thorpe’s comments are calculated to bring the worst people out

If you don’t follow someone’s religion then don’t go to their church.
If you don’t believe in the flag, nation or constitution, then don’t swear allegiance to them.
Her word is worthless and her ethics detestable. Her colour or race is immaterial to these flaws.

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 12:44 pm

Warren Mundine, Jacinta Price & Waleed Aly.

The axis of evil.

Wouldn’t go that far, but they are all wrong.

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 12:45 pm

And as mentioned, shes a problem for the pro side of any reconciliation

It gets better…she’s also the Greens spokesperson on the republic.

m0nty
m0nty
June 24, 2022 12:48 pm

shes a problem for the pro side of any reconciliation

Part of her point, as in that Aly interview, is that we don’t really need to listen to your patronising advice on how to act in the reconciliation debate. You’re an old white middle-class man, your perspective has had enough respect over the decades, time to give some respect to people like her who have a very different lived experience.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 12:49 pm

Thorpe’s comments are calculated to bring the worst people out of the woodwork to attack them. Then we all get to see who the worst people are.

She’s a troll who is interested in scoring points?

How is she going to make our lives any better?

Roger
Roger
June 24, 2022 12:53 pm

monty, every citizen has a right to participate in the democratic process regardless of age, race or class.

Dot
Dot
June 24, 2022 12:55 pm

Part of her point, as in that Aly interview, is that we don’t really need to listen to your patronising advice on how to act in the reconciliation debate

Anyone thinks there is a “debate” and that “reconciliation” needs to continue is a race baiting grifter who is too much of a weakling and moral coward to get the state to do what they want, to work, steal for them.

The Aboriginal industry is a sick joke. It has not made one person better off in net terms. Every single Aboriginal person I know is well off because they have integrated into society. One bloke went to a reform school and decided a life in and out of prison was not for him.

We said sorry, we meant it. We have spent billions of taxpayers (remember them?) money and end up with towns where the national past time is raping kids.

Enough. Aborigines Say the same thing. Thorpe and Bandt represent university Marxist lunatics and the donkey vote.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 24, 2022 12:55 pm

time to give some respect

respect is earned.
I dont respect people because “its their turn’, her people had 40,000 years of uninterrupted go at an entire continent and couldnt chase off 150 blokes armed with muskets.

I reserve the right to be just as blunt and offensive as her and piss-bAant.

Her “community” suffers from massive overrepresentation in every social pathology BECAUSE the worst aspects of traditional life are held as “authentic” because they guarantee no-one gets ahead.

If the only disadvantage you can claim is a nebulous group disadvantage then Im afraid nearly every living persons personal setbacks trump them.

johanna
johanna
June 24, 2022 1:01 pm

Frozen Brussels Sprouts?

No wonder they are cheap. Try to imagine frozen lettuce, bok choy, or cabbage.

Oh, and before it starts, B. sprouts haters are in two categories:

(i) It’s a genetic thing which means they don’t like flavours which are slightly bitter;

or

(ii) they have been subjected to over-boiled sprouts, and this sprout fan wouldn’t eat that crap either. It’s like over-boiled cabbage.

Lightly steamed or stir-fried, cabbage is delicious. Over-boiled, it looks, smells and tastes like urine.

So endeth the lesson. 🙂

JC
JC
June 24, 2022 1:02 pm

Thanks Bern , on the gun thing in NYC. I suspected as much.

local oaf
June 24, 2022 1:02 pm

In a burst of nostalgia last year, I felt like watching some VFL/AFL football again after having lost interest many years ago.
I’m reminded of one mid 80s grand final.

The ads around the ground were fascinating, cigarettes and other long forgotten products and companies. The police officers providing the required minimal security around the boundary all looked to be slim and fit.

The half-time entertainment consisted of a horde of kids unfurling and holding over their heads a giant Australian flag.

I wonder if one of those kids was named Lydia?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2022 1:04 pm

The fact remains that the Greens misrepresent themselves to the electorate as their policies do not state the positions they take after election.
If you want to overthrow the constitution and the Westminster system then tell voters your intention.
Spell out your alternative government structure and electoral system, if they believe in this at all.
There’s plenty of migrants to this country whose lived experience would make your hair stand on end but they don’t seek to destroy the nation they have chosen.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 1:06 pm

Gez I can’t attribute it to anyone apart from a bloke telling it in a pub upstairs in the Hay Street Mall. Patrons choking on their beer. I will try to remember yours and rickw comments. It adds to the telling.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 24, 2022 1:07 pm

I actually thought it was non-fiction.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 24, 2022 1:09 pm

Who needs an aboriginal voice, when we’ve got M0nty? He speaks for every hopeless loser on the planet. 🙂

areff
areff
June 24, 2022 1:10 pm

she does seem deficient intellectually.

She’s a Green! What else could you expect?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 24, 2022 1:12 pm

Interesting parallel drawn between Parsons in 1984 and the fat creep. Parsons was certainly a fool but not as nasty as the fat creep.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 24, 2022 1:17 pm

GreyRanga says:
June 24, 2022 at 1:07 pm
I actually thought it was non-fiction.

A good sheepdog would never lower themselves to take part in the wooing the wool.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
June 24, 2022 1:20 pm

m0ntysays:
June 24, 2022 at 12:26 pm
Wow, first Bandt and now Thorpe. You lot are massively triggered. Lucky you have a safe space here to whinge about it.

Projecting again m0nty.
We’ve been through this before.
No-one is trying to hide from her. No-one is seeking a “safe space”.
You were the one squealing and whining in sheer terror when some here opposed the covid restrictions and vaxx mandates, frantically and desperately demanding that every other inhabitant of Australia be imprisoned so you didn’t have to reduce your own risk factors by laying off the doughnuts and getting on the exercise bike.
You were the one demanding that the whole of Australia be turned into a “safe space” for you, no matter what the cost to every other human being in this country (though admittedly you were so ashamed of being such a fat gutless sack of shit that you pretended to be speaking on behalf of people you’d never met and whose views you had no way of knowing).
Well, guess what m0nty. We’re getting our freedoms back steadily. And the virus is still out there.
Squeal, m0nty! Squeal like a pig!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 24, 2022 1:21 pm

I felt like watching some VFL

The good old days – walk in with a box of cans, sometimes in a foam esky.

As they get emptied they become a platform to stand on. And also filled up with, err, recycled beer.

As the day went on the platforms (or the punters) got a bit unstable and the rivers flowed down the concrete terraces prompting the ladies to pick up their dripping handbags.

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