Open Thread – Weekend 16 July 2022


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Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2022 11:54 am

“Never, ever get the Old Boys off-side.”

Yep.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 11:57 am

Why do bees have sticky hair?
Because they use a honeycomb.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 12:00 pm

Do you think glass coffins will be a success?
Remains to be seen.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 12:01 pm

The White House’s dirty secret: Joe Biden is on drugs 24/7 to try to hide his dementia. Tucker Carlson Tonight names each of the chief conspirators who made this calculated deception happen, from Barack Obama and Ron Klain down.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 12:02 pm

What you find is they trade on particular instances that depart from the normal case and claim that because of these departures we are unable to recognize a normal case.

Reminds me of a weeks-long discussion here surrounding a car trip. Resulting in much…much smoke and squid ink.

Can’t quite put my finger on it. 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2022 12:05 pm

Am I cruel by not being moved by the plight of these children

That’s the whole idea. Avoids all the difficult questions.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 12:08 pm

Am I cruel by not being moved by the plight of these children?

I’m sorry for them because they have such stupid, self-serving parents who took them into a dangerous and toxic theatre of war, with all its grisly ramifications.

The parents chose, and slammed the door on the way out.

Presumably they thought they and their children would be in a position of prestige now, lording it over the conquered and enslaved.

rosie
rosie
July 16, 2022 12:12 pm

Most, if not all of those children have citizenship rights in Middle Eastern countries where you think their mothers and them would be much more at home.
Reason I thought the sharouf kids should return because they were born here, were orphaned and had an Aussie grandmother who hopefully would wean them away from the religion of no peace, and as both most damaged older boys were killed seemed reasonable to let the others come home.
Which they did, hopefully never to be heard of again.

rosie
rosie
July 16, 2022 12:14 pm

I don’t think any of the current lot were taken from Australia, all born in Syria to a succession of new husbands as the freedom fighters got killed and replaced.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 12:19 pm

all born in Syria to a succession of new husbands

Thanks rosie. I did wonder, given the ages.

Sorry. I have more compassion for the children of South African farmers.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 12:25 pm

Michelle Obama’s Changing Sexual Identity

In promoting my new film and accompanying book, Michelle Obama 2024: Her Real Life Story and Plan for Power, I am asked one question far more often than any other. Is Michelle Obama a dude? In fact, it’s everywhere!

Having recently obtained official documents from the state of Illinois, here is what I can say with assurance: I found proof in official documents that Michelle Obama registered to vote as a man in 1994. I also have official proof that, after 14 years of voting as a man, Michelle Obama changed her sex in 2008 from male to female. This is not more social media silliness, this is fact. I obtained the documents from the Illinois State Board of Elections only last week. Here is Michelle Obama’s official voter registration card from 1994 when she registered to vote as a man. The letter M is circled under Sex.

Then, on July 14, 2008, with her husband about to be nominated by the Democrats for the presidency, she changed her sex from male to female.

Was Michelle born a man, and did she have a sex change operation in 2008? As an investigative documentary reporter, I have to go where the facts lead me. The answer is emphatically no! Michelle was born female. Her voter registration as a male was likely a clerical error of some sort made when Michelle completed her 1994 voter registration form. She must have only noticed it in 2008 and corrected it appropriately.

Now as to Barack’s sexual orientation, well that’s a story for another day.

I learned the reason why. Michelle really does talk like a White girl, even a Valley girl. She has no urban or Black dialect at all, except of course, when she is faking one. And we know why: Michelle’s parents and grandparents insisted she use proper English. And, she avoided inner city Blacks from her earliest childhood by going to exclusive schools and then marrying a biracial man raised in a White household. She had no natural occasion to absorb urban dialect.

Vicki
July 16, 2022 12:27 pm

Re the plight of the kids in Syria:

Anyone noticed that the Oz is transforming itself into just another sobbing Woke fount of rubbish?

Years ago I gave up on SMH for this very reason. I now have to skim past the News Lite for some journalism that is worthy of the name. There is still some articles worth reading – mostly relating to the world scene. But the “vibe” is there & it is dispiriting.

Increasingly I obtain decent analysis of domestic & international affairs only from the internet. Sad, because I am ancient enough to still appreciate the feel of a newspaper in my hands & the expectation of an engrossing read.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2022 12:29 pm

“rosiesays:
July 16, 2022 at 12:14 pm
I don’t think any of the current lot were taken from Australia, all born in Syria to a succession of new husbands as the freedom fighters got killed and replaced.”

Yep.

johanna
johanna
July 16, 2022 12:37 pm

There is something chilling about those women and their succession of ISIS ‘husbands’ and resultant children. They are like robots where everyone is interchangeable. The worst I recall is the woman who had two or three ‘husbands’ and three children. All of the ‘husbands’ and all of the children died.

What sort of person willingly goes through this kind of trauma?

Very creepy.

Vicki
July 16, 2022 12:38 pm

Re comments on taxes on wealth.

Hey guys, we already have them. Stocks & shares have never been our thing. We have accumulated property & have paid plenty of taxes in doing so. And we continue to pay them in the form of land taxes, which have catapaulted into the stratosphere as values increase. Similarly, we pay taxes on all rental income. Property management is a job/enterprise like any other, & has some tax breaks – but fewer in the last few years.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 16, 2022 12:49 pm

Vickisays:
July 16, 2022 at 12:38 pm

Why I got out of property Vicki. I started doing the sums and was noting diminishing returns each year. Real Estate agents are becoming worse, once at least they appeared to do the job. Government mandated ticket clipping like smoke alarm checks etc… Insurance premium hikes. Local Councils constant rates growth nearing 10%pa in some areas. Then tradies got in the act by inflating fees till I ended up getting referdex of my own who didn’t inflate.

If you live in the same area and can do the small stuff yourself and keep an eye on the portfolio then maybe might be worth it. Problem was my property collection was spread across state lines.

Woolfe
Woolfe
July 16, 2022 12:50 pm

Feelthebern, Use Brave I have zero adverts on twitter

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 12:55 pm

Sancho Panzersays:
July 16, 2022 at 10:57 am
callisays:

July 16, 2022 at 10:54 am

I looked. Eeeeeew!

Now to delete my browsing history.

I know, right?
It’s like squishy road kill.
You don’t want to look but you can’t take you eyes off it.

Not always

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
July 16, 2022 1:01 pm

Just for Bespoke.

how do you catch a unique rabbit?

you neek up on it!!!

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 1:11 pm

I’m sorry for them because they have such stupid, self-serving parents who took them into a dangerous and toxic theatre of war, with all its grisly ramifications.

And now the Elbow regime will guarantee them taxpayer riches for life.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 1:15 pm

Presumably they thought they and their children would be in a position of prestige now, lording it over the conquered and enslaved.

Instead they’ll be coming back here to live off the tax payer for the rest of their lives.

Pretty much the same thing.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 1:18 pm

Snap, Tom!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2022 1:19 pm

callisays:
July 16, 2022 at 10:54 am
I looked. Eeeeeew!

Now to delete my browsing history.

League of gentlemen summed up the swinging scene beautifully in the series.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 1:20 pm

Premiers 1
Elbow 0

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2022 1:21 pm

Also for the people who have heard of the semi-famous old writer there is a new version of Persuasion been made.

Its very woke looking.
https://youtu.be/Fz7HmgPJQak

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 1:26 pm
bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 1:33 pm

Big_Nambas

Cheers

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 1:33 pm

Its very woke looking.

Oh yes. Had a quick squiz on Netflix last night and discarded instantly. Africans and Chinese in middle class Georgian England. Who knew?

Watched “Atonement” again instead. Beautiful, haunting movie.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 1:34 pm

Or…is that upper middle class or lower upper class?

Jane would know. Ask Jane.

Real Deal
Real Deal
July 16, 2022 1:36 pm

That Titania article was wonderful. Rather like Dame Edna with Barry Humphries, I can’t see Titania as Andrew Doyle. She now has a life of her own.

rickw
rickw
July 16, 2022 1:36 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2022 1:39 pm

Hotest of hot takes….

Abortion has always been safer than pregnancy and childbirth*
In fact, childbirth in the US is still quite dangerous. In 2020, the maternal mortality rate was 23.8 deaths per 100,000 live births, significantly worse than in the years previous. The mortality rate for women having legal abortions is very small; two women reportedly died from abortion complications in 2018. Compare that to about 700 women who die, on average, each year in the US from pregnancy-related complications.

Has there ever been a time when abortion was more dangerous than pregnancy and childbirth? The US has an appalling record on maternal health, but it could be argued that, in even the safest country to give birth, abortion is safer still.

* Not for the bub its not…

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
July 16, 2022 1:40 pm

Brisbane’s Cameron Smith, who leads the British Open (-13) by three shots after a 64, made 253 feet of putts in his second round – a record since the PGA first began compiling the statistic 20 years ago.

Drive for show, putt for dough.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
July 16, 2022 1:44 pm

GOD is ASEXUAL….prove me wrong christian .

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 1:46 pm

I went to buy some camouflage pants the other day, couldn’t find any.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
July 16, 2022 1:47 pm

If Mary had a abortion christmas would need a new meaning, and date.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
July 16, 2022 1:50 pm

PT
In the mind of man, God predates “asexual” by six thousand years.
You can’t backload that sort of pomo shit, not without dissapearing up your own derrida.
End of discussion.

mem
mem
July 16, 2022 2:07 pm

Old Leftysays:
July 16, 2022 at 11:39 am
How did this piece in the perversity of the Andrews government’s stance in energy ever get past the censors in the ABC politburo?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-16/energy-crisis-and-victoria/101220006

Yes remarkable. The article delves into the complexities of managing the grid when you have unreliable renewables requiring significant on-call back up. It is not widely recognized that South Australia has been relying for the greater part on gas generators and imports of electricity from Victoria, when there is a wind drought and no sunshine. There was about a week early in June when SA generated less than 10% of its own energy via renewables. Batteries would never have been able to deal with this gap in supply so electricity from Vic brown coal was essential. Vic had little wind or solar either but brown coal and hydro from Tas kept the lights on. Any calculations of the cost the renewable transition will have to allow for additional generation in each state beyond its own needs or require states to have sufficient gas generators to provide state coverage. The cost blow out will be phenomenal as you are duplicating systems.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 16, 2022 2:08 pm

Perth Tradersays:
July 16, 2022 at 1:44 pm
GOD is ASEXUAL….prove me wrong christian .

God has Y chromosomes.
Next question?

Woolfe
Woolfe
July 16, 2022 2:13 pm

Australians loooooove lockdowns (comment from Paywallian on Wrongsolen article)

Woolfe

Soooo how is covid working out for everyone now, bearing in mind we are virtually all double/triple vaxed? Did lock downs work? Did not being able to visit your granny work? Did not being able to go to your granny’s funeral work? Did wearing masks when you are outside work?
Likethumb_up6
Diane
1 HOUR AGO
Yes, all those things worked at that time. Hence our low death rate.

Richard
1 HOUR AGO
All decisions by State/Territory governments under “public health orders”.

IanR
1 HOUR AGO
“Did lock downs work? Did not being able to visit your granny work? Did not being able to go to your granny’s funeral work? Did wearing masks when you are outside work?”

In WA, yes, it did.

johanna
johanna
July 16, 2022 2:17 pm

Furedi at Spiked about the medicalisation of growing up:

Growing up is not a mental-health condition
Topics
Politics
Science & Tech
UK

It has been two decades since I wrote Paranoid Parenting. And in that time, alarmist reports about the deteriorating state of young people’s mental health have continued to proliferate.

Barely a week passes now without so-called experts talking up the crisis of children’s mental health. Yet their only solution to the perceived problem is to further medicalise childhood, transforming the normal emotional problems of growing up into an ever-expanding range of mental-health conditions. And as a result, more and more young people are being turned into patients or potential patients.

That is why I am not surprised to discover that children in England are being prescribed record levels of anti-anxiety drugs, such as Valium. According to figures released in a House of Lords written question this month, the number of children prescribed Valium has soared by almost 57 per cent over the past four years.

There is a temptation to blame this increase on the pandemic and lockdowns. After all, the media constantly asserted that the pandemic would lead to a full-blown crisis in children’s mental health.

But it would be wrong to focus too much of the blame on lockdowns. In reality, the obsession with children’s mental health, accompanied by the claim that it’s getting worse, began decades before the pandemic. During that time, one fear-mongering report after another has warned that the problem of children’s mental health is greater than we thought and is likely to get worse. Indeed, in April 2019, months before the pandemic emerged, a survey revealed that 80 per cent of teachers thought that the mental health of pupils was ‘at crisis point’.

What about the ‘mental health’ of children who lived through the World Wars, or the Depression?

There seems to be an expectation that everyone should feel good, all the time. This is guaranteed to make people miserable. Instead of accepting that life has ups and downs, and this is normal, children, their parents and their teachers (not to mention the counselors, shrinks etc) are positing a fantasy world.

Whether it’s the participation awards or the assumption that feeling sad or blue describes pathology, the mindset is set up to fail almost every normal child.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2022 2:20 pm

Re comments on taxes on wealth.
Hey guys, we already have them. Stocks & shares have never been our thing

CGT is about as close as we come to any form of wealth tax. The taxpayer has some control about when it becomes payable – if the CGT event is voluntary and the CGT discount acts as a defacto allowance for inflation. Land tax captures property moguls. I can’t think of any others.

Meanwhile the PAYG mugs get caught at about 1/3 AWE.

Perth Trader
Perth Trader
July 16, 2022 2:22 pm

I read a great piece in a news article this week. The writer finished his letter with..’ I have 4 sisters , 3 teenage daughters [ 2 with a car license] , 1 wife and a ex wife. Nothing in this world scares me anymore’.

Winston Smith
July 16, 2022 2:22 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

We started talking about the “ISIS brides” and she said that they needed to be brought back to Oz pronto. Well, that was like a red flag to a bull, I was in no mood to tolerate such fucking bunkum and so I smacked her down as follows…

You did record the smackdown?
Please say yes. I’ll buy several copies for my family for Christmas.
Well done, though. These bastards are a little too fond of dumping the problems they create on others.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2022 2:30 pm

These bastards are a little too fond of dumping the problems they create on others.

Land values do that automatically. The residential facility I’m in currently would never be found in the Western Suburbs of Perth where I live because no one could put together the hectare of contiguous land it sits on. Supermarkets, big box retailers too.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 2:38 pm

Tokoriki Lad, which won the sixth race at Eagle Farm today, tried to bite the horse next to him as he crossed the line. Jockey Steph Thornton admits the horse is a weird cat who “hates his own kind”. Sounds like an equine lefty.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 2:50 pm

After all, the media constantly asserted that the pandemic would lead to a full-blown crisis in children’s mental health.

Really! All I heard is Conspicuous Silence (from most).

But your right johanna. Protected from the icky and fed endless fantasy.
Plus girls mostly are expected to give and receive affirmation.

Delta A
Delta A
July 16, 2022 2:50 pm

… in April 2019, months before the pandemic emerged, a survey revealed that 80 per cent of teachers thought that the mental health of pupils was ‘at crisis point’.

And those teachers bang on about mental health ad infinitum, pushing students to become preoccupied with their well-being.

Daughter and I were discussing this just yesterday. All three of her girls are over-aware of their stress levels and triggers. Prompted by her teacher, #2 girl visited a doctor to discuss her ‘anxiety’. He put her on antidepressants and referred her to a psych. Daughter found out about it only when she accidentally discovered the box of tablets.

When younger, we often remarked that the girls were tough as nails. They even named their pet lambs, then happily ate them six months later. Highschool certainly changed that. Aware now of the situation Daughter and SiL – in fact, all the adults in this extended family – will concentrate on introducing them again to the real world.

Dot
Dot
July 16, 2022 2:57 pm

Jane Austen always was hysterical woke daytime TV crap.

She could have been a staff writer on the last few years of Neighbours.

PS – is cohenite actually Callinan J?

A sad, pathetic interest in woeful novellas is a tell.

2dogs
July 16, 2022 2:58 pm
bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 2:59 pm

It’s on!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2022 3:05 pm

God has Y chromosomes.
Next question?

Haha, I was this last hour looking through the wiki for Nietzsche, which I can best describe as a hot mess. Also a pretty good advertisement for what happens when a guy walks away from God towards nihilism (or wherever he went to: in the end some pretty strange places, although that seems to be medically induced).

Not regretting never studying philosophy. It seems very anal.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2022 3:05 pm

“Japan goes back to nuclear.”

Lucky Japan, meanwhile here in Australia we’re going back to de-industrialisation poverty and penury and most probably hunger. Wouldn’t it be nice if Australia could at least begin to go nuclear? My God we’re lead by inept cowards. And as for those craven cowards in the Liberals and Nationals who are now, post an election thumping, finally talking about nuclear, where was this talk prior to the election when it could have had some impact, especially after the disastrous agreement on “net zero emissions”?

johanna
johanna
July 16, 2022 3:09 pm

Well said, Delta.

I remember adolescence and the teen years. Ouch! As Eric Burdon rightly said in ‘When I was Young’ (about postwar Britain):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur30bn_3G58

‘pain more painful laughed a much louder, yeah …’

Many adolescents have very intense feelings, and this is nothing new. It’s a bumpy ride, but we used to get through it.

Now, it’s a ‘mental health crisis.’ Meaning lots more sinecures for taxpayer funded jobsworths.

shatterzzz
July 16, 2022 3:18 pm

I remember adolescence and the teen years. Ouch! As Eric Burdon rightly said in ‘When I was Young’

Went to same as school Eric .. he suffered from “short-arsed, big mouth ” syndrome .. used to get smacked on a daily basis .. LOL!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 3:24 pm

Went to same as school Eric .. he suffered from “short-arsed, big mouth ” syndrome .. used to get smacked on a daily basis .. LOL!

Wouldn’t he have been a bit older than you?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 3:24 pm

I mean, Eric wouldn’t get much change out of 80, I don’t think.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 3:36 pm

Eric Burdon is 81 — not to be confused with fellow prodigy Steve Winwood, who owns the best voice to come out of 1960s R’n’B — like this.

shatterzzz
July 16, 2022 3:39 pm

Wouldn’t he have been a bit older than you?

yep, but our infants/junior/senior school were shared buildings .. I was still in juniors when he was final year seniors .. his pugilistic reputation was well known .. LOL!

rickw
rickw
July 16, 2022 3:45 pm

Lucky Japan, meanwhile here in Australia we’re going back to de-industrialisation poverty and penury and most probably hunger.

We’re going to full Mong.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 3:46 pm

Mole, on that “breaking the fourth wall” stuff – I really loathe it when it’s ham fisted and persistent. Okay in a pantomime.

I mentioned Atonement (my choice last night over Persuasion). Redgrave does it beautifully right at the end. It’s in the guise of a tv interview, but she’s confessing to the audience. She has tricked us, but she lied to be kind.

The lies in the story come thick and fast, as pervasive and deadly as the flowing water, the movie’s leitmotif.

Winston Smith
July 16, 2022 3:48 pm

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1685324231663359
Better quality “Undisciplined boys make undisciplined men.”
I did this a while ago but it disappeared faster than a rent boy at a Labor Christmas party.

Frank
Frank
July 16, 2022 3:58 pm

Weird to think that Iggy Pop is still gigging and is only four years younger than Biden.

johanna
johanna
July 16, 2022 3:58 pm

Don’t diss Eric Burdon around me. One of the finest white blues, r&b and rock singers of his generation. Short and pudgy and pock-marked, probably bullied at school – so what?

As he reminded us, singing is not just about technical capability. It is about transmitting the feeling of the song, and he was a master at that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2022 4:02 pm

Weird to think that Iggy Pop is still gigging and is only four years younger than Biden.

Whats more creepy and just plain wrong for kids..
This

or

this? (one of the greatest moments on FTA television anywhere.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 4:03 pm

Another horse story: Hezashocka (T: Mick Price; J: Jamie Kah) won the VRC Members Handicap (2000m) at Flemington this arvo. The reason it was a photo finish, Kah explains, is that the gelding got to the front and waited for the other horses to catch up.

What a weirdo. Didn’t he know there were thousands riding on the result?

Frank
Frank
July 16, 2022 4:07 pm

Still gigging, but should he be?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2022 4:10 pm

Speaking of musos another one bit the dust overnight. Pretty young too.

Paul Ryder dead: Happy Mondays bassist and Shaun’s brother passes away suddenly aged 58 – hours before he was due to play show (16 Jul)

Shaun Ryder’s brother and Happy Mondays bassist Paul has died suddenly aged 58.

The musician was found dead today just hours before the band were due to play at Kubix Festival in Sunderland on Friday.

I have liked their stuff, although never bought any albums of theirs. This is one of their best known singles:

Happy Mondays – Kinky Afro (1990)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 4:13 pm

Kah explains, is that the gelding got to the front and waited for the other horses to catch up.

The biting horse is not unheard of.
And the tendency to want to stay in the pack is also not unusual. Mrs P’s family had a pony years ago who had exactly that tendency. It would go like the clappers until it reached the first two or three, then just happily canter along with them until the end.
Always a place bet.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 16, 2022 4:20 pm

FFS.

No company would hire someone with so many medical needs as he would never pass a medical so why would they hold on to him?

Why would some mystery charity think an overweight diabetic was just the sort of person needed in a combat zone?

Turnip
Turnip
July 16, 2022 4:32 pm

Weird to think that Iggy Pop is still gigging and is only four years younger than Biden.

One is showing the ravages of a misspent youth. The other is Iggy.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 4:34 pm

Australia becomes a global embarrassment as PM agrees to PAY Covid-infected workers $750 to stay home instead of scrapping insane 7-day isolation mandate while Aussies with flu are allowed to roam free – and he wants everyone wearing MASKS

. Anthony Albanese reinstated Covid disaster payments in extraordinary backflip
. Emergency national cabinet meeting was brought forward to Saturday
. NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet wants debate around covid isolation period
. Move would need to be backed by health experts but could see isolation reduced

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2022 4:36 pm

Albo falls at the first hurdle.

It’s going to be a long 3 years.

Winston Smith
July 16, 2022 4:38 pm

Big Nambas:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1685324231663359
Loved the meme – just had vistaprint do up 5 new T shirts.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2022 4:40 pm

Why would some mystery charity think an overweight diabetic was just the sort of person needed in a combat zone?

The guy was an ex soldier turned Spook.
These Aid Groups are just fronts for spooks.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 4:41 pm

The prime minister made the extraordinary backflip on Saturday announcing the payment would be made available from Wednesday and extended to September 30.

Australia has continued to enforce the seven-day isolation period despite other countries reducing the quarantine period or ditching it completely.

Poll
Should Australians with Covid be forced to isolate for seven days?

Yes
38%
592 votes
No
62%
957 votes
Now share your opinion

Positive Covid cases are not required to isolate in countries such as the United Kingdom or Switzerland while they are only ‘recommended’ to self-quarantine for five days in the United States.

Face masks are not enforced in the UK or Switzerland either – while Australians are still required to wear them while catching public transport or visiting a hospital.

Health experts warned the previous lockdowns had weakened residents’ immune systems and made them more vulnerable to the virus.

The disaster payments will be reinstated with crisis payments and cost $780million – with the price to be split between federal and state governments.

Latest Covid numbers in Australia

Australia recorded more than 43,000 cases and 66 deaths on Friday, with 4602 people in hospital.

NSW: 11,082 cases, 38 deaths, 2024 in hospital with 66 in ICU
Victoria: 9982 cases, eight deaths, 802 in hospital with 34 in ICU
Tasmania: 1662 cases, two deaths, 138 in hospital with five in ICU
Northern Territory: 424 cases, one death, 61 in hospital with two in ICU
Queensland: 5795 cases, 22 deaths, 921 in hospital with 14 in ICU

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2022 4:42 pm

That’s why Washington put Albanese in the hot seat.
So long as he keeps on doing what he’s told, it will be a lot longer than 3 years.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2022 4:43 pm

Somebody must have spiked Teh Paywallian water cooler. This one got through,

Paul Kelly gets out the pom poms.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2022 4:44 pm

One is showing the ravages of a misspent youth. The other is Iggy.

Iggy has a competitor in the incorrigible stakes.

Elon Musk’s 76 Year Old Father Has Second Child With 35 Year Old Step-Daughter (16 Jul)

Well they’re obviously good genes, and having a few more Musks is probably good for the planet.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 16, 2022 4:45 pm

Speaking of TV, The Dropout is well worth watching. It’s the Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos story. Pretty topical in that her fate is going to be determined by the end of the year.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 4:48 pm

The only reason Jamie Kah didn’t win her second successive Melbourne metropolitan jockeys premiership this year is that she was suspended for three months during last year’s lucrative spring racing carnival to appease the Daniel Andrew fascist police state for violating a weekday curfew and partying after 9pm.

After returning from a month’s holiday in Europe, Kah rode two winners at Sandown on Wednesday and another double today at Flemington.

Kah leads a chaotic personal life. She was engaged to marry her business partner, trainer Clayton Douglas, with whom she evidently still runs a training operation at suburban Mornington, until a month ago when she very publicly started a sexual relationship with another jockey.

To be honest, Kah is the only reason I still have an interest in racing after another genius of the equine world, trainer Darren Weir, was rubbed out two years ago for possessing cattle prods that could be used to make racehorses run faster.

Fresh from their efforts to destroy Cardinal George Pell in the farce that wound up in the High Court – their case dismissed 7-0 — Victoria Police have never brought the Weir case to court.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 16, 2022 4:48 pm

Will the lights go out in Germany this winter? Merkel left her nation reliant on Putin’s gas and now councils are turning off hot water and threatening floodlights at football stadiums… but ROBERT HARDMAN reveals many fear there’s far worse to come…

Daily Mail

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 4:48 pm

Pete Buttigieg Admits High Gas Prices are Intentionally Part of the Biden Strategy to Push People to Electric Vehicles

From the Comments

Prickly Pete
July 15, 2022 10:37 pm

Good Ol’ Secretary Sodomy.

Some more of the DemoCraps/Biden Diversity Picks

Biden’s Transgender Assistant Health Secretary Rachel Levine and Gender Fluid “Pup Handler” Sam Brinton Attend French Ambassador’s Bastille Day Party

As Miranda Devine states

No business at the White House: Biden’s inexperienced lackeys unlikely to pull US out of inflation doom

It’s no accident, either, since Biden deliberately has appointed people who tick the right “diversity” boxes, in terms of their physical appearance, with no concern about whether they are qualified to oversee a $6 trillion federal government.

A staggering new report from the Committee to Unleash Prosperity shows that most of Biden’s top officials have zero experience in ­business.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 4:52 pm

From the Comments

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11019329/Anthony-Albanese-brings-Covid-pandemic-leave-disaster-payment.html

Has AirBusAlbo declared a climate emergency yet, one overseas flight a time by his climate fighting cabinet right?

Frank
Frank
July 16, 2022 4:56 pm

Ricky Martin Faces Up To 50 Years In Prison Over ‘Incest’ Allegations

Singer Ricky Martin faces the possibility of potentially spending the rest of his of life behind bars after domestic violence allegations were filed against him by a family member.

A restraining order was issued against Martin earlier this month in Puerto Rico following the allegations and his brother, Eric Martin, told a Spanish publication that the alleged victim is the singer’s nephew, 21-year-old Dennis Yadiel Sanchez.

Under Puerto Rican law, the penalties for sexual crimes are more severe if the victim is a family member. The criminal complaint against Martin was filed anonymously under a law that protects victims of domestic abuse, according to the report.

And somewhat later on in the piece.

Representatives for Martin said earlier this month that they were “very confident” that the facts of the case would debunk the allegations against Martin.

Must be a Latinx thing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2022 4:58 pm

Will the lights go out in Germany this winter?

Literally.

France to turn off lights as Macron warns of energy problems ahead (15 Jul)

President Emmanuel Macron has warned people in France to prepare for having public lights switched off at night and to get ready for a time of nationwide energy “sobriety”.

He said the government would prepare a “sobriety plan” to conserve energy, which would start with turning off public lights at night when they are not useful.

Shutting down streetlights and public building lights should have some interesting effects, given the propensity of a certain demographic to come out at night. Carbeque season is just starting.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 5:01 pm

“It’s Not Helpful” – RINOs and Democrat Warmongers Fret as Ukrainian-Born Lawmaker Bashes Zelenskyy and His Corrupt Cronies

From the Comments

– Money washing scam.
– Joe & Zelensky’s Laundromat- open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
– There’s a pretty huge payday coming for the Big Guy if he gets his standard 10%.
– So democrap’s have expanded their plantation to include Ukrainian’s in America now and apparently they really need for her to be onboard for this lucrative kick back scheme they invented…

areff
areff
July 16, 2022 5:04 pm

Macron’s not the only one with energy problems.

About 10 minutes ago the power flickered for a second or two here in the Toorak of the Mighty West.

Seconds later, the footy callers on the radio said they briefly went out at Docklands stadium.

Must be a ferocious drain on the grid just now. Bitterly cold, howling winds. Every heat source in the house blasting and it’s still colder inside than Morrison’s political career.

Frank
Frank
July 16, 2022 5:07 pm

If the extended Biden family wind up swinging from lamp posts does that mean the Swiss bankers get to keep the loot?

Bluey
Bluey
July 16, 2022 5:10 pm

areffsays:
July 16, 2022 at 5:04 pm
Macron’s not the only one with energy problems.

About 10 minutes ago the power flickered for a second or two here in the Toorak of the Mighty West.

Seconds later, the footy callers on the radio said they briefly went out at Docklands stadium.

Must be a ferocious drain on the grid just now. Bitterly cold, howling winds. Every heat source in the house blasting and it’s still colder inside than Morrison’s political career.

At time of posting, coal accounts for 50% of generation, hydro 16%, and wind 35%. Picking wind doesn’t keep that up though.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 5:12 pm

Hiden Biden/DemoCrap and American Stupidity at Work

‘Impossibly Stupid’: US Farmland Was Just Sold to a Chinese Firm and There’s a Big Problem With Its Location

The 300-acre farm, sold to Fufeng Group, is just 12 miles from Grand Forks Air Force Base, which houses sophisticated military drone technology.

Fufeng Group said it is planning to use the land to build a $700 million corn milling plant that would create at least 200 jobs as well as residual opportunities for logistics, trucking, and other services.

But US military officials are raising the alarm nonetheless. Senior Air Force officers circulated a memo in April warning that the presence of Fufeng Group in Grand Forks, a town of just 60,000 people, was a national security threat.

“Some of the most sensitive elements of Grand Forks exist with the digital uplinks and downlinks inherent with unmanned air systems and their interaction with space-based assets,” wrote US Air Force Maj. Jeremy Fox.

A Chinese firm with close proximity to such data “would present a costly national security risk causing grave damage to United States’ strategic advantages.”

Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-ND) has also expressed opposition to the presence of Fufeng Group, which he views as a front for the Chinese government.

“I think we grossly under appreciate how effective they are at collecting information, collecting data, using it in nefarious ways,” Cramer told CNBC. (New York Post)

Gordon Chang, a senior fellow at the Gatestone Institute, blasted the sale of the farmland on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” Thursday, calling the move “impossibly stupid.”

“First of all, the Chinese are extremely aggressive,” he said. “But the more important story is that we are letting them do this. We are letting them buy a parcel 12 miles from a sensitive military facility where with passive listening equipment they can figure out almost everything we’re doing with those drones.

This just is impossibly stupid.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 5:13 pm

Fresh from their efforts to destroy Cardinal George Pell in the farce that wound up in the High Court – their case dismissed 7-0 — Victoria Police have never brought the Weir case to court.

I have heard it said that this was a vendetta by one of the Higher-Ups in the regime who was also a very, very keen punter.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 5:17 pm

BTW, areff, thanks for posting those links the other day.
I eventually got a hold of them.
Very illuminating.

Winston Smith
July 16, 2022 5:21 pm

Wabz:

There are enough bloody taxes as it is. The size of government needs to be wound back so it can “strangled in the bath”, so to speak.

Are you suggesting we ‘purge’ the government?
As in ‘Purge’?
As in tie it down and force it to drink an entire bottle of Ipecac syrup mixed with 500ml of Lactulose?
That’s a jolly fine idea.
A Purge to Remember.
Bags I not washing the sheets. Or hosing out the bedroom.

JC
JC
July 16, 2022 5:23 pm

dover0beach says:
July 16, 2022 at 10:12 am

It was a thin filo pastry pie filled with custard – not very deep . I asked for seconds which embarrassed wifey to no end.

JC, sounds like galaktoboureko. Was it covered in a light syrup? I love custard so it’s a favourite.

Dunno, but I’ll find out as it’s too good to pass.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 5:23 pm

Health experts warned the previous lockdowns had weakened residents’ immune systems and made them more vulnerable to the virus.

Wait…would those be the same health experts who recommended those lockdowns?

Makka
Makka
July 16, 2022 5:24 pm

but ROBERT HARDMAN reveals many fear there’s far worse to come…

It sure is. On top of their energy vrisis, German food price inflation, worst in 25 years.

https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/food-inflation

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 5:25 pm

Seconds later, the footy callers on the radio said they briefly went out at Docklands stadium.

areff, the AFL embrace all things left, including ‘stainability.
Why does Gillon McPolo-Pony insist on playing games at night and inside, when he could play them all in glorious free daylight at 2:00 on a Saturday arvo, and spare Gaia some grief?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2022 5:27 pm

Resign, Joe

As dangerous as Kamala Harris would be as president, she would at least be mildly less likely to let her tongue slip us into World War III.

In late March, in a combative speech in Warsaw, Biden veered off-script and announced that Russian kingpin Vladimir Putin “cannot remain in power.” There is a sordid history of such meddlesome talk when it comes to U.S. foreign policy, encapsulated by John Bolton’s shockingly candid on-air admission to Jake Tapper this week that he has “helped plan coups d’etat.”

Biden, in Poland, thus explicitly called for regime change against the long-standing leader of a nuclear-armed hegemon. As the writer David P. Goldman immediately pointed out, multiple generations of Cold War-era U.S. presidents knew to never so explicitly provoke the Kremlin. The White House immediately—and implausibly—attempted to walk back, and downplay, Biden’s clarion utterance.

In May, for the third time in under a year, the White House similarly had to walk back a Biden claim about the United States’ willingness to go to war to defend Taiwan against a possible—perhaps impending—People’s Liberation Army invasion. During a joint press conference with Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida, Biden was asked point-blank if Uncle Sam would defend Taipei if Beijing invaded. Biden answered “yes”—botching the actual commitment the United States made in the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979, under which the United States is merely required to provide prophylactic defensive resources to Taipei, not to actually defend it in the event of an invasion. A mealy-mouthed White House statement tried to walk it back, but the damage was done. Biden had also made virtually identical comments last August and October; turns out the adage about not being able to teach an old dog new tricks is true.

This week, Biden touched down in Israel for the first Middle East trip of his presidency. Upon landing at Ben Gurion Airport, Biden stepped off Air Force One and quickly asked his aides, “What am I doing now?”

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 5:30 pm

Ex-Southwest Flight Attendant Wins $5.1 Million in Bias Row

Southwest Airlines Co. and Transport Workers Union of America Local 556 must pay $5.1 million in damages to an anti-abortion Christian flight attendant who was fired after she clashed with a union president over its attendance at the 2017 Women’s March on Washington, after a Dallas federal jury found they engaged in discrimination and retaliation.

JC
JC
July 16, 2022 5:32 pm

Proof we’re living in a Simulation.

About 4 minutes ago, literally just after I posted the dessert comment, the neighbor called wifey to tell her they had received our mail in error. Anyway, I get the name of the dessert. Souffra.

Winston Smith
July 16, 2022 5:33 pm

Zipster:
The clip on Tulsi Gabbard – I still do not trust that woman. I believe she is being groomed by the Democrats for a position in the Republican Party.
She’s just too good to be true for a Democrat – Tulsi ticks too many Republican boxes in her positions.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2022 5:35 pm

If you are ineffectual and unlikely to accomplish anything the Middle East is not a bad place to be.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2022 5:37 pm

As in tie it down and force it to drink an entire bottle of Ipecac syrup mixed with 500ml of Lactulose?

4x

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 5:38 pm

Why does Gillon McPolo-Pony insist on playing games at night and inside, when he could play them all in glorious free daylight at 2:00 on a Saturday arvo, and spare Gaia some grief?

I’m sure those emissions are offset by planting trees on former farm land so it’s all good.

Sarc.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 5:38 pm

I have heard it said that this was a vendetta by one of the Higher-Ups in the regime who was also a very, very keen punter.

Martin Pakula was a very popular racing minister in the Andrews regime — especially inside the racing industry — before he announced his retirement because Andrews’s Kung Flu overreach would be too difficult to defend in the November 2022 state election.

If it emerges he set out to destroy Darren Weir for reasons that had nothing to do with Weir’s training ability (i.e., because Pakula lost money on Weir horses), all sorts of lefties in the racing industry — i.e., RSN’s racing editor Matthew Stewart — will have momentary conniptions before throwing their support once again behind the Liars regime.

I’ll be the Cat’s inside reporter on this story. As with all things involving Vicpol, the stench of corruption burns the nostrils.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 5:38 pm

JC.
You’ve got icing sugar on the lapel of your navy blazer.
And some on the loafers.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2022 5:38 pm

Ed Casesays:
July 16, 2022 at 4:40 pm
Why would some mystery charity think an overweight diabetic was just the sort of person needed in a combat zone?

The guy was an ex soldier turned Spook.
These Aid Groups are just fronts for spooks.

We all realise that you are careless with the truth, as well as being dickless, but surely even you have enough functioning neurons to understand that remarks like that can get people killed.

Dover, please delete both Ed’s comment at 1640 and this one.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 5:38 pm

More proof.

Just looking at a photo of the Beloved and I standing outside the Alamo – four years ago, called him over to check it out (as he’s lost a lot of weight since then).

Switched on the tv. Guess what’s on 9Gem right now? 😀

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2022 5:41 pm

I wasn’t suggesting Pakula, Tom.
But they did go hard for what was a relatively minor issue, really.
It would be interesting to run multiple concurrent raids on any one of a dozen other trainers and see what turns up.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 5:43 pm

Recipe for the unpronounceable Greek dessert here. The good old unruinable weekly version.

I make it for dessert when the family has “Greek Food Day”, along with Baklava. No one leaves my place without gaining at least five pounds.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2022 5:44 pm

OldOzzie

Gordon Chang, a senior fellow at the Gatestone Institute, blasted the sale of the farmland on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” Thursday, calling the move “impossibly stupid.”

“First of all, the Chinese are extremely aggressive,” he said. “But the more important story is that we are letting them do this. We are letting them buy a parcel 12 miles from a sensitive military facility where with passive listening equipment they can figure out almost everything we’re doing with those drones.

This just is impossibly stupid.”

But, but, but, 10% for the Big Guy is far, far more important than national security.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 5:45 pm

Recipe for the unpronounceable Greek dessert here. The good old unruinable weekly version.

Thanks calli; added to my recipe collection. Looks a bit lighter than the souffra, which is good.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 5:47 pm

Switched on the tv. Guess what’s on 9Gem right now? ?

Custer at the Alamo?

If you’ve read the book first, the film will never match your expectations.

rickw
rickw
July 16, 2022 5:59 pm

If the extended Biden family wind up swinging from lamp posts does that mean the Swiss bankers get to keep the loot?

Isn’t that their business model?

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:01 pm

Cats – if you have any ol’ sadly neglected CD players lurking around your abodes, do not reconnect them.

You’ll find yourself doing little else than listening to various CDs – hideously unfashionable as they are.

This evening I’ve been getting into the following:

Punk Floyd (various tracks)
Beck
Yeezey
Suede
Massive Attack
Bowie

Which reminds me – votes for the next Radio Show Theme are now open.

Saturday August Six from 7:00pm. 🙂

rickw
rickw
July 16, 2022 6:01 pm

Just finished building a shelter over the electrical sub-station. 2.7m by 2.4m, steel frame. Got it done in a day, including a trip to Bunnings.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:02 pm

This just is impossibly stupid

Modern life in a nutshell. 😕

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 16, 2022 6:07 pm

From Roger’s link:

Sent 40 years into the past by a spell of Chief Sitting Bull, General George Custer and the Seventh Cavalry join Davy Crockett to defend the Alamo against Mexican forces under the command of General Antonio López de Santa Anna.

If that happened in reality, Custer would have sent half the command off down the road to look for bad guys; failed to bring his Gatling guns along; forgotten to tell his men to bring their sabres, and attacked the strongest part of Santa Anna’s army instead of trying something sensible like a flanking manoeuvre.

areff
areff
July 16, 2022 6:07 pm

Calli, did you see the pinto pony and the Navajo across the alley from the Alamo (where the starlight beams its tender glow)?

If so, I hope you gave him a hearty hidee-ho and enjoyed his frijoles washed in Lux.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XfCIpH2_aU

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 6:07 pm

Which reminds me – votes for the next Radio Show Theme are now open.

Blues rock.

Winston Smith
July 16, 2022 6:10 pm

The Australian Armour and Artillery Museum are three quarters of the way through their Jagdpanther restoration.
Doing a really good job…
This is the first episode…

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:11 pm

For good ol’ Tommy:

The Spencer Davis Group

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 16, 2022 6:12 pm

Rabz, we’re prepping roast pork to the sounds of Dire Straits, Elvis, Cindy Lauper, and Brian Ferry – so far. Well, the missus is doing the work, while I bash some words into my HMAS Sydney book. I am in charge of the music too.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 6:12 pm

If that happened in reality, Custer would have sent half the command off down the road to look for bad guys; failed to bring his Gatling guns along; forgotten to tell his men to bring their sabres, and attacked the strongest part of Santa Anna’s army instead of trying something sensible like a flanking manoeuvre.

And would have been found dead with a smile on his face.

So he couldn’t have made his name later in the Civil War.

And wouldn’t have become an Indian fighter.

So he wouldn’t have been cast back to teh Alamo under a spell by Sitting Bull.

The conundrum of time travel.

areff
areff
July 16, 2022 6:12 pm

If you’ve read the book first, the film will never match your expectations.


Son of the Morning Star
is much more informative

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:15 pm

Blues rock

Excellent suggestion, Rog – although our definitions of it might differ.

I’ve also been thinking the following themes:

Sirens
Nineties Pop
Disco 2000
2010 to 2020

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2022 6:17 pm

Heh, James Vasquez, famous US mercenary in Ukraine, gets ass kicked by kid on train platform.
Twitter;
H/T Reminiscence of the Future

Bill P
Bill P
July 16, 2022 6:18 pm

I was talking to someone yesterday about gambling.
Bing Bong goes my phone. It’s the TAB suggesting I have a bet.
Spooky.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:19 pm

TE – good to hear it. 🙂

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2022 6:19 pm

Woody Allen got away with it, why can’t Musk Sr.?

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 6:20 pm

Son of the Morning Star is much more informative

Thanks areff.

I see I can get a second hand copy at a fraction of that price.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2022 6:26 pm

Which reminds me – votes for the next Radio Show Theme are now open.

Pink Floyd and the psychedelic stuff that came after Hendrix — before music collapsed into the disco surrender.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:29 pm

Miss Maggie Dodgers:

I want you

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 6:34 pm

Pink Floyd and the psychedelic stuff that came after Hendrix — before music collapsed into the disco surrender.

Psychedelia is worth exploring; it’s also had at least two reprisals since the ’60s.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:34 pm

Pink Floyd and the psychedelic stuff

Syd’s rapid descent into madness nearly finished them off.

So obviously the most logical thing to do was to recruit a male model with zero experience of being in a band.

Yet here we are … 😕

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 6:35 pm

Excellent suggestion, Rog – although our definitions of it might differ.

That could be debated on the night.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2022 6:37 pm

Why Hoddle St killer Julian Knight’s latest court case against prison operators could be his last

Julian Knight could be declared “vexatious” in the Federal Court, a move which would practically bar him from continuing a long-running legal crusade.
Mark Buttler
and
Craig Dunlop
2 min read
July 16, 2022 – 3:05PM

Hoddle St killer Julian Knight’s latest court case against prison operators could be his last, after decades of costly and mostly baseless cases against his jailers.

But Corrections Victoria will not publicly comment on whether it will seize the opportunity to have Knight’s declared “vexatious” in the Federal Court, a move which would practically bar the him from continuing his legal crusade in what is, effectively, the last court that he can still freely lodge a case in.

In a letter to the Herald Sun, Knight said his latest legal fight was not “a minor case about the cost of Mars bars at the prison canteen.”

The letter, drafted as he prepared his case, Knight made a series of claims against private prison provider G4S and Corrections Victoria.

He alleges that there had been a 33 per cent increase in the price of canteen goods, that money intended for a quit smoking campaign was diverted, and that phone costs were exorbitant.

“Who, in the community, is charged $7.20 for a 12-minute telephone call to a mobile phone,” he said.

“It is not a minor case about the cost of Mars bars at the prison canteen. It is a case about the ability of prisoners who earn an average of $26 per week to care for themselves in prison and maintain contact with their families.”

Knight said the action, filed in October last year, was not just about him.

“I am the nominal applicant in what is essentially a representative action on behalf of all current and former inmates of Port Phillip Prison,” he said.

Knight has been locked up since the night he murdered seven people and wounded 19 others in a 1987 gun rampage at Clifton Hill.

Much of his term has been spent in Port Phillip Prison, a maximum security jail in Melbourne’s western suburbs which is the state’s biggest.

areff
areff
July 16, 2022 6:38 pm

You’l enjoy it, Rog, despite the author’s annoying habit of turning adjectives into verbs — innovative the first few times, an overworked novelty by the final chapter.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:40 pm

Psychedelia is worth exploring; it’s also had at least two reprisals since the ’60s

It’s also my favourite musical genre, Rog, but I’ve shied away from publicising it here so as not scare the horses.

Paisley shirts that are audible in space, 501 stoves and burgundy suede winklepicker boots. 🙂

The Dukes of Stratosphear
Naz Nomad and the Nightmares

And various others. Sound Psychedelia instantly takes me to a place that resembles Alice’s (alleged) experiences in Wonderland. 🙂

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 6:43 pm

I love a mix of genres. How about 70’s prog rockers doing an homage to the Wild West?

Don’t think it ever happened?

Here

and

Here

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 6:46 pm

You’l enjoy it, Rog, despite the author’s annoying habit of turning adjectives into verbs — innovative the first few times, an overworked novelty by the final chapter.

I saw a fascinating documentary a while back (i.e. probably the ’90s) that showed how archaeologists in the early ’80s reconstructed the Battle of the Little Big Horn from recovered cartridge cases and what not. Painstaking work on their part but the end result really brought it to life.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2022 6:48 pm

I love a mix of genres. How about 70’s prog rockers doing an homage to the Wild West?

Prog rock…there’s another genre worth exploring; fold Kraut rock into it.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:48 pm
Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 16, 2022 6:49 pm

Southwest Airlines Co. and Transport Workers Union of America Local 556 must pay $5.1 million in damages to an anti-abortion Christian flight attendant who was fired after she clashed with a union president over its attendance at the 2017 Women’s March on Washington, after a Dallas federal jury found they engaged in discrimination and retaliation.

I’m glad about the result, but a $5.1 million payout? The link says only $120,000 was lost wages and $3.5 million was “punitive damages”. Probably the lawyers get a fair chunk of it, but it looks like the kind of thing which has made the USA such a litigious society.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2022 6:53 pm

I saw a fascinating documentary a while back (i.e. probably the ’90s) that showed how archaeologists in the early ’80s reconstructed the Battle of the Little Big Horn from recovered cartridge cases and what not. Painstaking work on their part but the end result really brought it to life.

From the book “Archaeology, History, and Custer’s Last Battle: The Little Big Horn Reexamined ?”

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:53 pm

How about 70’s prog rockers doing an homage to the Wild West?

Err, it’s in the queue, Squirette.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 6:54 pm

Prog rock … there’s another genre worth exploring, fold Kraut rock into it

Noted.

calli
calli
July 16, 2022 6:56 pm

Did someone mention Prog Rock?

I can never listen to any of it without a vision of Roger Dean’s magical album covers.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:03 pm

Das Grate Coive … 🙂

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 16, 2022 7:03 pm

Temps across England are forcecast to range from 32c-39c.

Some of the poms will have to take off theit vests.

Lawgi Dawes Hall
Lawgi Dawes Hall
July 16, 2022 7:04 pm

Radio show:

Dylan covers: 13th floor elevators and the them’s it’s all over now baby blue. Hendrix all along etc etc

Pretty girls: Marianne Faithfull, Kylie, Francoise Hardy, Bobby Gentry, the Baby Animals girl, the Mazzy Star girl etc etc

Delta A
Delta A
July 16, 2022 7:05 pm

I am currently watching Alias Grace, a six part series on Netflix. Not possessing Wolfman’s excellent critique skills, I’ll borrow from the reviewers, Willow and Thatch: Period Drama News and Romances:

Alias Grace is based on the grisly double murder that took place in July 1843 in a village 16 miles out of Toronto, in Upper Canada, when two of Thomas Kinnear’s servants, 20-year-old James McDermott and 16-year-old Grace Marks, were charged with killing Kinnear and his housekeeper and lover, Nancy Montgomery. Kinnear was shot, while Montgomery, who was pregnant, was hit on the head with an axe, and then strangled.

(And dismembered. Brrr!)

Sarah Gadon plays (Margaret Attwood’s) Grace superbly, with restraint and an air of innocence which has captivated me. Edward Holcroft plays Dr. Simon Jordan who is hired to do a psych evaluation of Grace, by supporters who want to see her freed.

At this point, there’s more than a tad of repressed passion simmering beneath the good doctor’s kind facade. Knowing Margaret Attwell, it’s not likely to go anywhere pleasant.

rosie
rosie
July 16, 2022 7:06 pm

Bird back?

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:08 pm

Some of the poms will have to take off their vests.

Class actions will no doubt ensue after various English Roses get fried.

Lost count of the number of times I’ve had to warn English and Irish chickees not to get themselves fried under our magnificent sun.

40 degrees – I’d happily have some of that right now, thanks.

Winston Smith
July 16, 2022 7:09 pm

Big Nambas:

Big Nambas:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1685324231663359
Loved the meme – just had vistaprint do up 5 new T shirts.

Well.
That was a monumental stuff up – the proper link was Here

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:11 pm

Pretty girls – The “Sirens” thread will be all about them.

Dylan covers – Yes. Well done, Squire. Not next month, but soon.

Goanna
Goanna
July 16, 2022 7:14 pm

Rabz.
Spencer Davis Group was an excellent choice to start off the evening.

From the same era The Loved Ones with Everlovin’Man.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:15 pm

the Mazzy Star goil

Thanks, Graeme.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:25 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2022 7:26 pm

From the book “Archaeology, History, and Custer’s Last Battle: The Little Big Horn Reexamined ?”

This was the archeological dig that discovered that the Indians – I beg their pardon, Native Americans – had 60 of the most modern lever action rifles, compared to the single shot carbines, carried by most of the cavalrymen?

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 16, 2022 7:26 pm

Ricky Martin Faces Up To 50 Years In Prison Over ‘Incest’ Allegations

Whilst this seems wrong based on the yuk factor, the key driver behind the social aversion to incest is the production of damaged children- something which is (pardon my discounting pregnant men) unlikely here.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 16, 2022 7:28 pm

I beg their pardon, Native Americans – had 60 of the most modern lever action rifles, compared to the single shot carbines, carried by most of the cavalrymen?

I spent today pinging steel with my 1892 Alaskan 😉

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:29 pm
Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:32 pm

Sacre bleu – Dylan never covered ttt – don’t know what I was not thinking, Cats!

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:34 pm

Saturday night chowing down time, evidently.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 16, 2022 7:37 pm

Best wishes for the special birthday, Elizabeth. Hope the celebrations are memorable.

Thanks, Delta.

My birthday is next Wednesday. Celebrations tomorrow at a lunch, Tues nite at a dinner and Friday at another lunch. All different networks of people. Plus 18 Cats and friends at ours last Sunday for a BBQ, for Cats to welcome the Jupes family of lovely people not for my birthday but it all seems like part of it. It has become so extended, like Naidoc week. lol.

When I write to the C of E Diocese about my ancestral church on behalf of the many families that bear the ancestral name I refer to myself as a ‘family elder’. Why not? I think. We can have elders too.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2022 7:37 pm

Was Michelle born a man, and did she have a sex change operation in 2008? As an investigative documentary reporter, I have to go where the facts lead me. The answer is emphatically no! Michelle was born female. Her voter registration as a male was likely a clerical error of some sort made when Michelle completed her 1994 voter registration form. She must have only noticed it in 2008 and corrected it appropriately.

Absolute rubbish. I have no knowledge of his/her voting record. However, there are plenty of pictures about of a young Michael Robinson with and without Obama. I too doubt there’s been any sex change operation. Remember that clip of him/her exercising in loose clothing?

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:39 pm

Ricky Martin Faces Up To 50 Years In Prison

Better him than me, as the saying goes.

Our “betters” really aren’t, are they, Cats?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 16, 2022 7:41 pm

I spent today pinging steel with my 1892 Alaskan

A thing of beauty

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 16, 2022 7:44 pm

Some of the poms will have to take off their vests.

lol. Their romance-killers.

A pale British male in baggy undies and a vest.
The stuff of Empire.

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:44 pm

scientia ingium virtus

Roughly translated as:

Bend over and enjoy “the Science” …

“You will own nothing
You will exist in a pod
You will eat the bugs
You will be happy … ”

Or else.

Lawgi Dawes Hall
Lawgi Dawes Hall
July 16, 2022 7:44 pm

Road trip music: Patty Smith Horses. Steppenwolf, Triffids etc etc

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 16, 2022 7:46 pm

yep… exactly that, 8 shot carbine in 357, but mines a take down, so it potentially ‘stores’ better…

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 16, 2022 7:48 pm

Probably the lawyers get a fair chunk of it, but it looks like the kind of thing which has made the USA such a litigious society.

Lawyers gotta eat, and this is one of the most profitable ways in which they do it.

jupes
jupes
July 16, 2022 7:50 pm

Plus 18 Cats and friends at ours last Sunday for a BBQ, for Cats to welcome the Jupes family of lovely people

And a great time was had by all. Thanks so much to you and Hairy, Lizzie. Happy birthday!

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:55 pm

Lawgi Dawes Hall
Triffids

Graeme, they are quite possibly my most favourite Ozzie band evah.

Gut wrenching ballads:

Trick of the Light

The Seabirds

Wide open road

Rabz
July 16, 2022 7:57 pm

Plus 18 Cats and friends at ours last Sunday for a BBQ, for Cats to welcome the Jupes family of lovely people

Happy Birthday, you wondrous ol’ English Rose.

You’ve always treated me well.

May you and Mike enjoy many more. 🙂

Woolfe
Woolfe
July 16, 2022 8:00 pm

Poor little sad Un Zud faces.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 16, 2022 8:00 pm

President Emmanuel Macron has warned people in France to prepare for having public lights switched off at night and to get ready for a time of nationwide energy “sobriety”.

He said the government would prepare a “sobriety plan” to conserve energy, which would start with turning off public lights at night when they are not useful.

Guess we’ve seen the last of Vivid in Sydney given the ‘sobriety’ that’s ahead of us.

Sydney CBD and harbour bridge in the dark is going to be a Labor special.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2022 8:05 pm

Mate has picked up a Victorian Martini Henry from the late 1800’s in NZ for peanuts. Nobody wanted it. He cleaned it up, put the camera down the barrel and looks like its never been fired. Mint condition.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2022 8:11 pm

Just heard the woke bullshit at the Rugby Union, this welcome to country is such crap.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2022 8:18 pm

I fully realise that this is controversial subject here (and not one on which I have any direct knowledge). However, there is nothing controversial about the recommended action, which closely follows the advice of the best doctors and several well informed people here.

How to remove Graphene Oxide, the dangerous & undisclosed ingredient in COVID Vaccines, from the body

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2022 8:20 pm

Vest and Y fronts, close your eyes and think of England, Lizzie.

Frank
Frank
July 16, 2022 8:21 pm

Sometimes something pops up that makes you feel as though things aren’t that bad. Like a Tasmanian Cosplay convention populated by the sort of sad bastards that serve to remind you of how things could be.

There is an entire gallery at this link if you have the stomach for it and access to get behind the paywall.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2022 8:22 pm

Just heard the woke bullshit at the Rugby Union, this welcome to country is such crap.

I find “Welcome to Country” an insult, to say the least. Some of us enlisted with vague ideas about defending Australia.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2022 8:29 pm

Not only is it wrong for fathers and uncles to have sexual relations to have with their sons and nephews, they should be summarily executed.

miltonf
miltonf
July 16, 2022 8:29 pm

I find “Welcome to Country” an insult, to say the least. Some of us enlisted with vague ideas about defending Australia.

That’s a big part of the reason it’s done- marxist demoralization. Same with multiculturalism. Didn’t a Soviet defector explain how the KGB worked to achieve this end?

Rabz
July 16, 2022 8:30 pm

Vest and Y fronts, close your eyes and think of England, Lizzie

LOL, Granga … 🙂

Rabz
July 16, 2022 8:31 pm

thinking of England

Mod Chickees … 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 16, 2022 8:31 pm

How is this legal?

Dunno how it works in the States. It’s probably a cornucopia of different interpretations as you move over state lines.

In Straya it’s a no-no for lineal family – sons, daughters, nephews etc – but step-family members are (legally) on the table.

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