Open Thread – Tues 19 July 2022


Woman on a Porch with Flowers, Robert Lewis Reid, 1906

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Boambee John
Boambee John
July 21, 2022 3:28 pm

m0ntysays:
July 21, 2022 at 10:01 am
How Albanese/Chalmers deliver wage growth, without productivity growth – without triggering an inflation tsunami – will set the economic tracks for the next 10+ years. One way, or another.

Perhaps taxing the exploding profits of fat cat corporates might be a solution.

Removing all subsidies to ruinable “power” companies would also assist greatly. Also, they should have to pay for their own connections of remote, distributed, sites to the existing grid.

Have you taken up the Solar Challenge yet, m0nty-fa? You know, solar cells, battery, EV, cut off from the Gaia killing carboniferous grid.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 21, 2022 3:29 pm

m0nty-fa

PS, those “exploding profits” are already subject to taxation.

Struth
July 21, 2022 3:29 pm

If there was one thing that really clinched it for me that simply cannot be explained away as just another typical cold or flu symptom, it was the loss of smell even though my airways were completely unobstructed. That suggests a neurological component.

This was a symptom the propagandists pushed heavily.
The power of suggestion is a mighty thing.

If you’d asked, I would have only been too glad to come around with my dog after she’d had a feed of Kangaroo meat. I would put money on your nose working.
I’d put the fucking house on it.

Cassie of Sydney
July 21, 2022 3:31 pm

“areff,
I saw your comment from yesterday: best wishes to you and yours.”

Ditto.

Cassie of Sydney
July 21, 2022 3:34 pm

“Cassie, I have a post on surrogacy on the backburner that follows on from a article Dingle wrote about surrogacy and the Ukraine (they’re like the US, surprise, surprise). She’s probably the only Australian journalist that is asking questions about surrogacy in the Australian MSM.”

I look forward to reading it DB. I am a member of an organisation called “Stop Surrogacy Now”…..it’s a US based group. Many of the women who are leading the charge against the surrogacy industry (and an industry it is) are also fighting this whole transgender ideology.

P
P
July 21, 2022 3:35 pm

Areff,
My thoughts were with you yesterday.

I had not long returned from laser treatment for eye and was struggling to see properly. I could have written so much more about that marvellous grandson. Still battling today with my vision. Two week I’m told it’ll take. Using eye drops as directed.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 21, 2022 3:36 pm

Why would anyone bother dialoguing with you? You’re an unserious person. Goodbye.

Your passions regarding Victoria Nuland and the evils of the manipulations of the US State Department would make more sense had the anonymous Little Green Men who invaded the Crimean Peninsula and Donbass in 2014 and 15 spoke with American accents, kicked the Ukrainians about for a bit and then returned for another go in February bearing the invasion markings ‘U,’ ‘S,’ ‘M’ and ‘C.’

As it stands, those debbil-debbil western neocons did not invade Ukraine because Victoria Nuland didn’t get her way and the average punter rejected her side’s actions.Vlad Bae, however, did.

That’s where it begins and ends. Unserious or not.

Good day to you also.

m0nty
m0nty
July 21, 2022 3:38 pm

If only you’d had some ivermectin, OCO.

As it happens, I did ?

Good to hear, OCO. Mix it in your oat bag.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 21, 2022 3:40 pm

You’ve clearly made your mind up, struth. That’s fine. I don’t see a huge distinction between our two positions – you say it doesn’t exist, I say it’s not a big deal. I think both of us agree that we all need to move on. Isn’t that the key issue? Along with a desire to see those who imposed the Covid tyranny on the rest of us given their just desserts, and that measures be put in place to ensure this can never happen again. I expect we agree on this, too.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 21, 2022 3:41 pm

Didn’t bother reading it, Rex.

Vicki
July 21, 2022 3:41 pm

I’ve tested positive to Covid, I’ve been symptomatic. And I have to say that the experience was not severe at all but very different from any other illness I’ve had. The mix, nature and sequencing of symptoms was just *weird*.

I agree. Although I did not contract it, husband did. Weird thing is that although he was taking all the FLCCC protocol (vitamins/ supplements esp Quercetins etc) he responded best to his corticosteroid inhaler. Now that is unlike any ordinary cold – or even flu – that I know.

I also recall in the early stages of Covid in 2020 an old age hostel (average age 80+) in Spain had an outbreak of Covid. All they had on hand were anti-histamines and an antibiotic. These were employed, and they did not lose one patient. Go figure.

I remain convince that the sequencing of the spike protein in the gain-of-function development produced a novel virus that is characteristically able to penetrate our natural immunity and generate an often violent allergic reaction.

Struth
July 21, 2022 3:42 pm

So we see above, people…..quite insane people…..discussing the different symptoms of covid that they experienced from each other.
Remember, according to your mind mushers, you could be “asymptomatic” as well as it could kill you!!.

What is insane is that people don’t even contemplate they each just caught different variants of colds and flus going around.
This just doesn’t come into the realms of the possible and therefore shows just how gone they are.

They all had covid.
“Yes I had covid too, but my symptoms weren’t the same as yours!!!”

It’s so sad to witness.
You had colds.
You had lurgies.
Wogs.
And maybe, just maybe, like your whole lifetime before 2020, you have caught different colds.

Believe it or not it used to happen.

No shit.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 21, 2022 3:42 pm

I knew we were missing a clown. Hi, m0nts.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 21, 2022 3:45 pm

Didn’t bother reading it, Rex.

Poor vatnik.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
July 21, 2022 3:46 pm

think both of us agree that we all need to move on. Isn’t that the key issue?

Until you feel a need to speak back to him…

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 21, 2022 3:46 pm

But there’s one thing this industry hasn’t banked on: the children of the baby business taking on their makers.

That’s because these people have the same rights as everyone else, or should have. When grown up, they are not, as seems to have been assumed by everyone involved in their conception, going to be somehow blasé of the deliberate removal of their identity and happy to live in an ongoing rights-free vacuum to protect the positions of others.

In a way, these people’s predicament reminds me of the current push to allow children to make decisions about sex-change operations while still minors. Here, society is told that such treatments are in the best interests of these children. From what evidence of the aftermath of their situations has come to light, there seems to be little if any consideration of how they will be when they come out the other end of the process, including the on-going medical interventions that will be required as well as their loss of procreation.

Like the donor-children, this entire process seems designed for everyone else to “get” something out of it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 21, 2022 3:47 pm

m0nty-fa

I was being a bit flippant, I am just sick of gasbags spruiking on behalf of spivs and their superprofits.

Good to see that you have finally understood the “business” plan of the ruinables “industry”. Now start to campaign against it with the fervor you devote to nagging the Us about firearms, nagging of which they are completely unaware.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Presented for an appointment today at a government clinic (multi disciplines of specialists)

Signs everywhere stating that masking is mandatory in this clinic.
Not one person in a mask, not a patient, admin staff, not a specialist, nor offsider.

No sanitiser pump stations anywhere in sight – not a hope of sanitizing your hands in the foyer, the waiting room, or the reception desk.

I just wish they’d think to give the address of the clinic when informing you of your appointment.

Vicki
July 21, 2022 3:49 pm

Had read nowhere of that being a symptom, but when I mentioned it to Tim Blair, who came down with the virus at about the same time, he also said his eyes were off, hayfever-style, at the height of the infection.

Just read this. It certainly correlates with observations of many clinical practitioners – like Dr Shankara Chetty – that the pathogen incites an allergic reaction.

Again, maybe this is why the corticosteroids and anti-histamines are successful against Covid.

BTW Ivermectin works because it is an anti-viral and anti-inflammatory agent.

Struth
July 21, 2022 4:01 pm

You’ve clearly made your mind up, struth. That’s fine. I don’t see a huge distinction between our two positions – you say it doesn’t exist, I say it’s not a big deal. I think both of us agree that we all need to move on. Isn’t that the key issue? Along with a desire to see those who imposed the Covid tyranny on the rest of us given their just desserts, and that measures be put in place to ensure this can never happen again. I expect we agree on this, too.

You may have noted I’d made my mind up in 2020.
And not once have I had to change it.
This is because nothing from the very beginning was or still has anything to do with a virus.

Did people get sick from colds and flus for the last two years?
Yes.

You cannot prove these cold viruses were anything but cold viruses….the usual new variants.
Some of last year’s variants, and the year before.
It’s not up to me to prove covid exists.
What happened to delta, or the original DEADLY first strain, (that killed no one the flu wouldn’t have finished orf)?
I’ve not witnessed one symptom of anyone that can’t be put down to a cold.
No proof of the existence of a separate disease called covid exists.
Remember when the Alberta Province in Canada was ordered to prove it’s existence and could not?

They dropped covid restrictions immediately and then, amazingly, the governor got booted, a globalist got put in and off they went again.

Boris hasn’t gone in hard enough either, so he’s gone.

Prove covid exists and unto this day, you cannot.
Colds exists.
Wogs.
Lurgies.
And powerful propaganda….24/7 non stop for years,…… propaganda exists.

And somehow you who believe in covid, against all logic or the need for proof, which you have never seen, are not effected………………………………………………..

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 21, 2022 4:10 pm

OldOzzie

Can NSW isolate ACT so they only have their own renewable power supply – we should use ACT with no external electrical power as a Test Bed for Australia

Wonderful. m0nty-fa can do the individual test of the Solar Challenge in Melbournistan, and the ACT can do the large scale test.

Struth
July 21, 2022 4:13 pm

Just read this. It certainly correlates with observations of many clinical practitioners – like Dr Shankara Chetty – that the pathogen incites an allergic reaction.

Again, maybe this is why the corticosteroids and anti-histamines are successful against Covid.

BTW Ivermectin works because it is an anti-viral and anti-inflammatory agent.

I note that you have come to similar conclusions to the jab as myself, Vicki, …like millions have done.
I find you also very weary of the slippery covid killer and are looking for it everywhere.
Relax.
I understand the gossip, the horror stories you may have been confronted with.
Mostly horse shit, as we now all see.
You don’t know who to believe anymore.
None of us do.

Are you going to tell me you’ve never had a cold before that gave you itchy eyes?

I mean, they used to advertise drugs for colds that told you they helped clear up itchy eyes and blocked nasal passages.
It’s a COMMON COLD symptom.
Or at least it was before 2020.
Personally I trust the doctors that have been telling us all along about the deadly vaccines and who have had all predictions about what they would do come true.

Oh come on
Oh come on
July 21, 2022 4:13 pm

Can the rest of Australia isolate the ACT? In every sense imaginable.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 21, 2022 4:15 pm

m0ntysays:
July 21, 2022 at 3:00 pm
m0nty, so we can do a proper quantified analysis, can you please:
(a) identify from exactly what time in the past you are saying profits/exec remuneration have been “exploding”;
(b) explain why we can calculate that at that time profits/exec remuneration weren’t too low?

Oh, do shut up Tim, you old bore.

Translation: m0nty-fa has no evidence to back up his assertions.

bespoke
bespoke
July 21, 2022 4:17 pm

Don’t understand why people take the Ukraine/Russian thing so personally.

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 4:17 pm

Has anyone heard of the product Evushield?
My initial reaction is to tell the government to piss off, but I’d be interested in what others have to say.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cossack has lost his bail hearing. He remains inside, sans visitors, coz national security risk.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 21, 2022 4:20 pm

m0nty

Speaking of evil industries you do know your own is only a whisker away from being associated with the evil gambling industry?

All it will take is a 4 corners ‘investigation” where some mug punter cries about how they spent all their dough on fantasy gambling and they will screw you in a hearbeat.
It wont matter that you dont do the gambling side of things, you are the ‘gateway drug’ of the betting world…


Is Fantasy Football an Addiction?

Last year, a record-setting 114.4 million people watched the Super Bowl, making it the most viewed broadcast in American history. And Super Bowl 50, which will be held on February 7 at Levi’s Stadium in Santa Clara, California, is expected to beat those numbers.

But not everyone watches the game just for fun. In 2014, people wagered a whopping $119.4 million on the game in Las Vegas casinos alone, setting a record. And some officials estimated that illegal wagers for 2015’s game amounted to around $3.8 billion.

And it’s not just the big games that get people to make bets. Fantasy sports competitions held all over America, from small office pools to large online forums, allow you to make daily picks.

Rodney Paul, Ph.D., economist at Syracuse University’s Falk College of Sport and Human Dynamics, says though most reports peg the number of fantasy leagues in the United States at approximately 2.5 million, that figure is probably even higher. “It’s tough to estimate exactly how many leagues there are,” he says, “so my guess is that the number of leagues is even higher than reported.”

According to the Fantasy Sports Trade Association (FSTA), 56.8 million people play fantasy sports in the United States and Canada. The average player, according to their data, is a 37-year-old man with at least a college degree, and spends $465 a year on fantasy sports.

The favorite fantasy sport? Football, of course.

One study of 1,556 college students found “an association between fantasy sports participation and gambling problems.” Other research looked at the behavior of 563 male online gamblers, and classified 23 percent of them as “problem” gamblers. These gamblers were significantly more likely to spend more than “social” gamblers per session, as well as gamble from school, gamble alone, and make bets while drinking or taking illicit drugs. They were also more likely to gamble more money, and lose more.

There you have it.
Monty is a person making money from luring innocents to gambling via fantasy football.
Its science!

rosie
rosie
July 21, 2022 4:21 pm

“Remember when the Alberta Province in Canada was ordered to prove it’s existence and could not?”
Like it was yesterday.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 21, 2022 4:21 pm

‘Aborigine’ is generally perceived as insensitive, because it has racist connotations from Australia’s colonial past, and lumps people with diverse backgrounds into a single group.

Does this mean that the “First Nations” were never a single nation, but only a collection of different, sometimes warring, tribes?

Is this the same as “Terra nullius”?

Tom
Tom
July 21, 2022 4:23 pm

All I can say about the experience is what I said above; it was just weird and unlike any illness I’ve had before.

I hear you, OCO. For me, it was also unlike anything I have had in my adult life.

It’s almost as if Kung Flu was designed in a government bio-weapons lab.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 21, 2022 4:23 pm

Here’s the plot for the Opera Il Trovatore we are going to see next week.
So complicated it is already doing my head in. The emotional life of it is hard going.
The rousing choruses will be a treat though.

SYNOPSIS
A story of witchcraft, murder, and vengeance, the plot to Il Trovatore begins in the acts of the parents. A mother is burned at the stake for suspected witchcraft, and avenged by her daughter when she throws the child of her executioner into the fire. The child’s father seeks vengeance for the act and forces his surviving son to devote his life to avenging his brother’s death. The story of how the gypsy died haunts every character of the opera. Once grown, Count di Luna is possessed by his need to avenge the death of his brother. Ferrando, the captain of di Luna’s guard uses the story to keep the men on their guard. Azucena sees the event repeating in every waking moment, in the flicker of the fire, and in the shape of shadows. But only she knows the truth. Possessed by a dark force in that moment, the child she threw into the flame was her own. She raises Count di Luna’s brother as her own child, calling him Manrico. Constantly haunted by her mother’s dying words ‘mi vendica’ (avenge me), Azucena sets in motion a series of events which lead to Manrico’s death.

Leonora finds herself in the middle of this cross-generational family feud. She has fallen in love with a mysterious troubadour who sings of his love at her window, and so rejects the advances of Count di Luna. Manrico and di Luna are destined to oppose each other, first as leaders of opposing factions in the war, and now in the pursuit of Leonora’s heart. Not until the final blow is struck and Manrico dies at di Luna’s order does Azucena reveal that his rival was his brother. Her mother is avenged.

Verdi’s Il Trovatore has some of the most rousing choruses and arias in any of his operas, a plot to rival Game of Thrones, and four very demanding lead roles calling for exceptional singers. It is truly a masterpiece which will enjoy its popularity within the operatic canon for years to come.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 21, 2022 4:24 pm

Translation: m0nty-fa has no evidence to back up his assertions.

Evidence is white supremacist.

Vicki
July 21, 2022 4:26 pm

Personally I trust the doctors that have been telling us all along about the deadly vaccines and who have had all predictions about what they would do come true.

Ditto to that, Struth.

Tom
Tom
July 21, 2022 4:26 pm

PS: my Kung Flu lasted only three days, thanks to the Ivermectin that areff drove 100kms to deliver to me.

jupes
jupes
July 21, 2022 4:27 pm

Twitter gold.

Hahahahahaha

It’s funny because it’s true.

P
P
July 21, 2022 4:28 pm
Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 4:32 pm

Gabor:

Not sure if it’s all true but soldiers in any army do buy some civilian gear to replace badly produced
army supplied gear if they can afford it or are permitted.
If I recall some forum members who served in the Australian army did the same, I’m certain it was either Zulu or KD and others who mentioned it.

Anyone who went bush with the issued socks instead of Explorers deserved all the blisters they got.
🙂

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 21, 2022 4:32 pm

Putin is “entirely too healthy,” according to the CIA director William Burns, delivering yet another blow to the Kremlin critics.

Putin is physically and mentally healthier than the dissolute geriatric creep in the White House.

The number of people who are suffering for the ridiculous imposture foisted upon the US and consequently the world by the Democrats staggers the imagination.

Comparing the world now and the way it was four years ago under a President of an entirely different temperament gives you whiplash.

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 4:36 pm

Tom:

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Wednesday that Moscow’s military “tasks” in Ukraine now went beyond the eastern Donbas region, in the clearest acknowledgment yet that it has expanded its war goals.

The Dnieper River was always going to be the defensible line that Russia wanted.

rosie
rosie
July 21, 2022 4:36 pm

Nothing says super profits like solar and wind spivs raking in $15k a MWh right Monty?

Cassie of Sydney
July 21, 2022 4:39 pm

“Mother Lodesays:
July 21, 2022 at 4:32 pm”

Yep.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 21, 2022 4:39 pm

Diversity of Western weapons creates trouble for Ukraine – media

Too many different systems complicate logistics, training and maintenance, US and UK experts say

The wide variety of weapons systems supplied to Ukraine by the West is proving a “serious challenge” for Kiev, the Wall Street Journal reported on Tuesday, citing US and UK think tanks. While insisting that the weapons are “effective” in the fight against Russia, analysts say the piecemeal delivery of multiple different systems has created a “logistical nightmare” for Kiev.

Kiev has so far received M777 guns from the US, Australia and Canada, but also a number of self-propelled systems such as the US M109, the German Panzerhaubitze (PzH) 2000, France’s Caesar and the Polish Krab, among others. While in theory they all share the same 155-caliber projectiles, things are not so simple in practice.

“None of these systems have that much commonality,” Jack Watling of the London-based Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think tank told the Journal. “Ammunition should be interchangeable, etc. But that’s not the case.”

Watling co-authored the RUSI report published earlier this month, which argued that the “current approach by which each country donates a battery of guns in a piecemeal way is rapidly turning into a logistical nightmare for Ukrainian forces with each battery requiring a separate training, maintenance and logistics pipeline.” Some of it was based on input from Ukrainian military and intelligence officials.

The diverse artillery systems have different ranges, propellant charges, loading mechanisms, spare parts and maintenance requirements, among other things. One example cited was the PzH 2000, which has “specific requirements for loading charges” and takes 40 days of training Ukrainians in how to operate and maintain the dozen or so they’ve received so far.

Scott Boston, a senior defense analyst at the US-based RAND Corporation, pointed out other challenges in dealing with Western-made systems.

“A lot of the Ukrainian stuff is legacy – 40-year-old vehicles that you fix with a hammer and a wrench, brute force, lubricants and prayer. If you think about how a mechanic fixes a modern consumer automobile – with a hand-held computer that you hook up to read the sensors inside the vehicle – it is going to be different,” he told the Journal, adding that not having spare parts other than what comes in from the West is further complicating matters.

rosie
rosie
July 21, 2022 4:39 pm

Everyone who gives birth can accurately be termed a mother you translobbyidiots.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 21, 2022 4:39 pm

Cassie @ 3:34
Snap

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 4:42 pm

Heard on a podcast
The Demonrats are introducing a bill to Congress that tries to “federalize” abortion. I don’t how that works, but the bill apparently also contains the right for allowing mixed marriages. I’ve never heard any opposition to mixed race marriage for any quarter of the political divide. If there’s a non-issue in the US it would be that.

Add in the super critical climate “emergency”, the Great Insurrection of Jan 6th along with several other things and you find that demons are basically fighting imaginary battles. All this crap are hallucinations.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 4:43 pm

rosie says:
July 21, 2022 at 4:39 pm

Everyone who gives birth can accurately be termed a mother you translobbyidiots.

So untrue. Men can be born with ovaries and vaginas too.

rosie
rosie
July 21, 2022 4:44 pm

“You and I both know hospitals aren’t full.”
I thought they were packed to the rafters with the vaxx injured.
So confusing.

rosie
rosie
July 21, 2022 4:47 pm

“So untrue. Men can be born with ovaries and vaginas too.”

My apologies JC for being so presumptuous, I forgot, men are always right, about everything.
And better at everything, including at being women.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 21, 2022 4:47 pm

Too many different systems complicate logistics, training and maintenance, US and UK experts say

I thought it was diversity that made things strong?

Oh, please MSM, tell me what to think!!!!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 21, 2022 4:48 pm

Let the people pay: How EU leaders make their citizens suffer the fallout from their failed Russia policy

Western leaders accuse Russia of ‘weaponising’ gas – but, in reality, it’s their own sanctions which have caused this crisis The West can easily end its energy crisis by lifting sanctions it imposed on Russia

Rachel Marsden is a columnist, political strategist, and host of independently produced talk-shows in French and English.

In a Bastille Day interview, French President Emmanuel Macron told citizens to “prepare ourselves for a scenario where we have to do without Russian gas entirely.” At the same time, Macron accused Moscow of using the fuel as a “weapon of war,” echoing the spin emanating from a European Union leadership that obscures the real reason the bloc is facing an energy shortage that’s driving up the cost of living.

This crisis is entirely self-inflicted.

What von der Leyen – and now Macron – conveniently omitted was that it was the EU’s own anti-Russian sanctions, adopted in a knee-jerk and ideologically-driven fashion at the outset of the Ukraine conflict, that represent the root cause of these disruptions.

The West quickly adopted a strategy of targeting and sanctioning various aspects of the Russian financial system, including banks and foreign reserves, cutting it off from the SWIFT global transaction system – and then had the gall to complain that Moscow was asking for payment for its gas exports in its own currency to mitigate the hassle of navigating a system from which it was effectively blocked. “Export your gas but good luck trying to get paid,” is hardly a reasonable expectation.

It wasn’t Russian President Vladimir Putin who called on the EU to cut off Russian gas. Rather, it was his Ukrainian counterpart Vladimir Zelensky, who has constantly pushed for ever more Western sanctions on Russian fossil fuels. And the West has only been to happy to recklessly indulge him to the detriment of their own citizens.

Earlier this month, Zelensky even admonished Canada for agreeing to return repaired turbines for reintegration into the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline that provides gas to Germany, and demanded that Ottawa reverse its decision.

Russia is only too happy to sell its fuel to whomever wants to buy it. And if the EU sanctions were lifted, the Western energy crisis would end. But that would mean admitting to a failed policy. So, instead, we’re being told that it’s all Putin’s fault, but also that the best way to stick it to Vladimir Putin is to take short, cold showers and to reduce “night lighting,” as Macron has recently suggested.

Western leaders aren’t just taking their citizens for credulous fools with their ridiculous propaganda as cover for their own failures, but they’re treating the livelihood of the average person as collateral economic damage in their hopeless bid to isolate Russia. They’be convinced themselves, from their ideologically-isolated elite bubble, that they represent the entire world. But they’re mostly just fooling themselves.

But then Borrell gave away the game. “The global battle of narratives is in full swing and, for now, we are not winning,” he said. “As the EU, we have to engage further to refute Russian lies and war propaganda.” But who’s really peddling the propaganda? On one hand, the EU has been trying to portray the impact of their own irresponsible and devastating sanctions on their own economies and citizens as Putin’s doing even as they try to convince Westerners that their suffering is some kind of a war effort that’s doing harm to Russia.

However, in reality, Russia can pivot to the rest of the entire world and simply leave West Europeans to wallow in their own costly delusions. They may be about to find out whether moral superiority and virtue-signaling will heat the house or feed the kids this winter

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 4:51 pm

Tom:

You’re right, Bern. Vlad has major territorial ambitions and now he’s not pretending otherwise. If NATO doesn’t get itself together, we’re going to see a rerun of World War II.

And Europe is now reaping the results of years of refusing to gather the means to defend itself, whilst pissing welfare money away on a population of military aged immigrants who outnumber the established defences 10:1, and only need to get their hands on weapons.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 21, 2022 4:51 pm

Interesting take:

If Australians say no to Voice, Labor can shrug and say that they fulfilled their promise. Then, they will keep posturing about how much integrity they have and how they care ever so much about Indigenous Australians. The Greens will help them out by blaming a No to the Voice on Australia’s apparently intense racism, and indigenous affairs will remain a convenient political weapon for the so-called progressives to deploy at will.

While some Labor types might genuinely be hoping for a Yes vote, the smarter ones will be banking on a quick and decisive No — a result they will be more than happy to bathe in a photogenic flood of crocodile tears.

Quadrant

Tom
Tom
July 21, 2022 4:53 pm

The Demonrats are introducing a bill to Congress that tries to “federalize” abortion.

Federalising everything — abortion, law enforcement, climate regulations — is the Democrats strategy to take law-making out of the hands of the states.

They reckon if they can get the Washington bureaucracy to mastermind the communist revolution now underway they’re home and hosed.

The strategy is totally unconstitutional, which is why it will fail in the end. But the DNC game plan is to get as much of the revolution implemented as possible before it can be neutralised by uncrooked voting.

Vicki
July 21, 2022 4:53 pm

Bill Shorten intervenes to remove ‘birthing parent’ from medical forms amid criticism in Daily Telegraph

Bill still hasn’t given up hope of the top job.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 21, 2022 4:56 pm

The Demonrats are introducing a bill to Congress that tries to “federalize” abortion.

Do they have to demonstrate that the federalising abortion comes under a heading of the Constitution? Or are such excursions managed later where a challenge is brought against them by states?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 21, 2022 4:59 pm

My point above is whether the Federal government has a free hand to legislate on whatever they want, and it will be law as long as no one demonstrates it is contrary to the checks on their power as laid out in the Constitution, or whether they are restricted to what is in the Constitution from the get-go?

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:01 pm

Liz

I was pretty astonished to here that Puccini’s opera, Gianni Schicchi, which has one of the most beautiful arias of any opera (My Dear Papa) was first performed at the NYC Metropolitan Opera in 1918. It sounded weird the opera was performed there and not first in Italy. I then figured it out. It was the year WW1 ended so Puccini was doing the right thing to hightail it to NY.

In the link, I give it to the looker (at the top) and not the fast chick. She’s freaking enormous. Humongous.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:01 pm

hear..

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:06 pm

Tom says:
July 21, 2022 at 4:53 pm

The Demonrats are introducing a bill to Congress that tries to “federalize” abortion.

Federalising everything — abortion, law enforcement, climate regulations — is the Democrats strategy to take law-making out of the hands of the states.

They reckon if they can get the Washington bureaucracy to mastermind the communist revolution now underway they’re home and hosed.

The strategy is totally unconstitutional, which is why it will fail in the end. But the DNC game plan is to get as much of the revolution implemented as possible before it can be neutralised by uncrooked voting.

All true, Tom. Suspect the Demons strategy is to get the GOP to vote against it and thereby go to the electorate with those old chestnuts that the GOP is anti-sheila and racist.

They’re a disgusting politcal party. Just despicable.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
July 21, 2022 5:07 pm

Do they have to demonstrate that the federalising abortion comes under a heading of the Constitution? Or are such excursions managed later where a challenge is brought against them by states?

I think it’s the latter.
And, as has been pointed out by someone on this site (apologies for not remembering who), the “commerce” power has been interpreted so widely it’s reached to the edges of the galaxy and beyond, so the Supreme Court would probably hold it valid unless they decided to pull the commerce power a few light years back towards the actual words of the Constitution.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 5:08 pm

Thanks for the best wishes, BBS, and the same to all Cats who expressed the hope that my looming grandchild’s heart issue proves minor.

Paediatric surgeons really can do wonders these days.

All the best, areff!

Eyrie
Eyrie
July 21, 2022 5:08 pm

Supposed to have been a “Lowly Ranked Workshop Grunt” at “Barracks Section” at a certain R.A.A.F. base way back when, who was facing the music over using Air Force time and materials to “do foreigners.”
Heard this back in the 1980’s from a US Navy guy who worked in the maintenance section of a rescue helicopter squadron at North Island, San Diego.
Seems the squadron XO was a bit of an arsehole and was always demanding foreigners be done for him. The last one was just before he went on leave of two weeks and left behind his 1500cc VW fastback demanding that the paint shop paint it before he returned. So they did – when he got back for the unveiling, there it was – painted just like the squadrons helos. Grey under, white on top, US NAVY, national insignia, hi vis orange sections, beware intake and beware exhaust stickers (in full helo size), Open Here for Rescue etc.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 21, 2022 5:08 pm

The Demonrats are introducing a bill to Congress that tries to “federalize” abortion. I don’t how that works, but the bill apparently also contains the right for allowing mixed marriages. I’ve never heard any opposition to mixed race marriage for any quarter of the political divide. If there’s a non-issue in the US it would be that.

JC, Machiavelli would be disappointed in you.

The reason the Demons are wrapping up abortion/buggery and interracial marriage in one big bundle is so they can cry ‘racism” and “they want to split up mixed families” if its rejected.

Its the “dont put puppies in the blender”/mandatory castration bill.
If you oppose the bill then you are for putting puppies in blenders, not protecting your ‘nads.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:10 pm

Areff

Just read it now. Good luck with it all.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 21, 2022 5:10 pm

His loose thesis is that we don’t really have any interpersonal connection anymore anywhere. And that we are effective digitally brokered by bots.

lol. He’s a dentist, Matrix. He spends his days interacting with people restricted from speech.
That’s about as good as interpersonal connection gets for him anyway. Clouds his vision of things.

Cut him some slack. 🙂

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:11 pm

Mole

True enough, I don’t disagree. I also think their constituents are gullible enough to believe that swill too.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 21, 2022 5:16 pm

Anyone able to post the piece by The Mocker in the Oz giving the ginge a spray?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 21, 2022 5:17 pm

Thanks for the best wishes, BBS, and the same to all Cats who expressed the hope that my looming grandchild’s heart issue proves minor.

Paediatric surgeons really can do wonders these days.

All the best, areff!

Our daughter’s third bub, now a year old, was diagnosed in utero with an obscure problem affecting his neck which would probably would give him problems with his breathing; also with a kidney problem which was fixed in utero. The neck issue meant he spent his first six weeks in and out of hospital as his breathing stopped and then started again. A terribly trying time for our girl and her little family. He’s thriving now though. The take out, areff, is that there is so much that can be done for a tiny baby, unborn or when born, and not to take these diagnosed worries to heart. Just welcome the bub with joy. My mother always used to say that you love them straight away because they bring their love with them. She was so right.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 5:21 pm

Bill Shorten intervenes to remove ‘birthing parent’ from medical forms amid criticism in Daily Telegraph

Bill still hasn’t given up hope of the top job.

If there’s one thing Bill learned in 2019, it’s that he can’t win without the normies.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 21, 2022 5:25 pm

Top Endersays:
July 21, 2022 at 4:51 pm

TE, (I admit to not having read that article) but it strikes me that to put up a referendum and have it fall over is a major f_up.

I can’t think of a referendum in the years of my majority – I admit to there not being too many – where the side that sponsored or wanted the change came out of the process without egg on its face from the loss.

In a compulsory voting system, there’s no need to gin up the voters to get out and do their civic duty, like in the US, so the loss can have no real bearing on future voting trends.

And for those electors who do support a referendum change – in this case, Aboriginal recognition in the constitution – if it turns out as in all likelihood that they are the ones who will be on the “wrong side of history” to use one of their favoured refrains, then it will only show that it is they who hold the untenable position.

All in all, there will be enough egg to go ’round for all of their faces.

Zipster
Zipster
July 21, 2022 5:26 pm

from above

These very same public health assholes criminalised going outside and closed playgrounds and did everything in their power to dissect, prescribe and proscribe not just the sex lives, but the entire social existence, of millions and millions of people. But now the mere suggestion that promiscuous gay men knock their promiscuity down a few notches, to reduce the prevalence of uncomfortable buttrashes in their own community, is somehow beyond the pale?

cohenite
July 21, 2022 5:30 pm
Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 5:30 pm

ZK2A:

The 1918 Offensive – The Germans captured British supply dumps, and found the rations and equipment there was far better then their own – not only that, the time they spent in looting those dumps slowed up the offensive and disrupted their plans.

That was the use of Sturmtruppen – specialised detachments of soldiers whose job it was to gain entry to the enemy rear echelons and disrupt reinforcements and supplies. Apparently there were several notable examples of these detachments saying FU and stopping for a bloody good feed.
The very same thing happened during the Ardennes Offensive during WW2. Troops who had been on lean rations and no luxuries stopping to have a feed, looting chocolate, smokes, and coffee.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 5:31 pm

Just think he is reversing something that happened under the Morrison ‘Conservative’ government. FMD what a trash government that was; worthless.

Most likely a public service decision, dover.

Ministers don’t sign off on such things & only hear about it if there’s negative feedback that results in a “ministerial”.

Not that I’m defending the Morrison govt.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:32 pm

cohenite says:
July 21, 2022 at 5:30 pm

NSW currently getting a massive 12% of it s electricity from ruinables

I don’t see what’s wrong with that. That’s good, no?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 21, 2022 5:37 pm

JC

No, it only gives the stupid fools something to tout as “proving” that, eventually, really, ruinables will be able to power all of Australia, 24/7/365.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 21, 2022 5:40 pm

JC I saw Kiri Te Kanawa years ago, that was her final encore. Not a dry eye in the house. Sublime.

cohenite
July 21, 2022 5:43 pm

A lot of videos of the nonsense biden has said are appearing but I still think the one about the blonde hairs on his legs sticking up and being rubbed by young kiddies takes the cake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eD2n2dD2Y

This guy is a certifiable creep; but the real rats are the ones who supported his election.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 5:44 pm

If it were an actual conservative government a public servant would never dare such a decision.

Mmm…I wouldn’t bet on it.

Regardless of the character of the government, at the end of the day there are few meaningful consequences for public servants. That’s part of the problem.

cohenite
July 21, 2022 5:44 pm

I don’t see what’s wrong with that. That’s good, no?

Stop taking the piss.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:46 pm

Dover

I think you’re overly harsh on the libs and not really appreciating what they/we were dealing with, which is basically a leftwing electorate. The Coalition lost 10 seats to the Teal Tarts because they were sold (the coalition) as not leftwing enough.

Face facts, this is a leftwing electorate and has THE weakest Right in the Anglo world because the electorate is very leftwing. I don’t want to labor this, but it’s very clear why it’s culturally so.

If you disagree, perhaps you can explain how the previous government could have succeeded being more rightwing.

There was all this cartwheeling being done by people on this site as they predicted the smaller rightwing parties would take votes away. Those parties performed abominably in terms of expectations. The Teal Tarts and the Greens did really well though. 🙂

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:48 pm

cohenite says:
July 21, 2022 at 5:44 pm

I don’t see what’s wrong with that. That’s good, no?

Stop taking the piss.

I’m not actually. The less renewballs work, the better as it means the real energy producing are there gunning it. Hopefully, people begin to see just how fucking useless that junk is.
All good at 12%. I wish it were .5%

Delta A
Delta A
July 21, 2022 5:48 pm

Much catching up on this busy Cat:

Areff, congratulations on the coming grandie. You might not fully believe it now, but this little treasure will change your life in the very best ways.

Bear, excellent news. It will probably seem a bit daunting at times, but home is the very best environment for complete recuperation.

P, lovely to hear of your talented grandie. You have every reason to be proud. I expect he inherited his musical talent from his (late) Grandfather.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 21, 2022 5:49 pm

Areff, also, my sister’s first husband remarried and his wife had twins. One of them had what used to be called a ‘frog’s heart’, i.e. an embryological three-chambered heart, and this mother was told her baby would never survive beyond about eight years old. He is now in his forties, has had much corrective heart surgery, and leads an essentially normal life. And that’s how much could be done during his childhood, and even more now. When it comes to infant hearts, every day also brings amazing new surgical technologies and operative procedures.

With adult hearts, stent technologies have been absolute life-savers. My ex-husband would be dead now without them. He’s just had more put in, even though he resisted any until he had a near-fatal heart attack (the silly leftie thought he knew better than big tech stent-makers and any profit-grubbing heart specialists – so the internet told him). Hairy too would not be around if he hadn’t sensibly and immediately when told had a stent put into his left anterior descending artery; ominously called ‘the widow maker’.

Obviously it’s a balance, but sometimes the internet is not your medical friend. Best to seek out quality and trusted expertise, skilled professionals who will advise fairly in your best interests.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 21, 2022 5:49 pm

‘Total BS’: White House forced to issue clarification after Biden cancer gaffe

The White House has been forced to make an embarrassing clarification after US President Joe Biden said he has cancer during a speech in Somerset, Massachusetts.

During his remarks, President Biden was describing the fumes emitted from the oil refineries near his childhood home in Claymont, Delaware.

“That’s why I and so damn many other people I grew up with have cancer and why for the longest time Delaware had the highest cancer rate in the nation,” President Biden said.

The White House was forced to make a quick clarification, stating that Mr Biden was referring to the non-melanoma skin cancers he had removed before his presidency.

Lord, take him soon.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:49 pm

Whoops

the real energy producing assets are there

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:51 pm

GreyRanga says:
July 21, 2022 at 5:40 pm

JC I saw Kiri Te Kanawa years ago, that was her final encore. Not a dry eye in the house. Sublime.

Ranga, she was really good looking too. Win win.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 21, 2022 5:51 pm

NSW currently getting a massive 12% of it s electricity from ruinables.

I don’t see what’s wrong with that. That’s good, no?

JC, until such time as the wind just stops blowing and there’s a scout around for something else to keep us going. But if everything else – all our reliable power is gone – then it’s gonna be cold and bleak when that extra 12%/15%/20%, or whatever it ends up being after the Liars and the Greenfilth push through the 43% target by 2030.

Under those conditions, still wind turbines and shaded solar panels then will be, to use an old, old term, just as good as t*ts on a bull.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:52 pm

Ranga

The fat one in the vid I linked to… Jeez lord, she would devour half a cow a day. Get a load of the size of her.

Walker
Walker
July 21, 2022 5:53 pm

Prince Harry is the self-unaware grifter who keeps on giving
The Mocker

Not surprisingly, the Duke of Sussex’s ill-advised recent spray about US politics has prompted commentators to remind their audiences that he is a descendant of the ‘tyrant king’ George III, the Hanoverian who Americans love to hate. The analogy is unwarranted, and commenters should apologise for comparing the two.

You see, George III was an enlightened and pious man who devoted his entire life to public duty, notwithstanding he eventually succumbed to mental illness. If we are to draw accurate historical analogies with Harry, look no further than the king’s son George IV, a profligate and vainglorious sponger. “There never was an individual less regretted by his fellow creatures,” declared The Times in 1830 following his death. “What eye has wept for him? What heart has heaved one throb of unmercenary sorry?”

In 1814, George junior was Prince Regent when British troops invaded Washington DC and set fire to the White House. Harry is hellbent on doing something similar, albeit metaphorically, but this time to the US Supreme Court.

In his speech to the United Nations he lamented “the rolling back of constitutional rights here in the United States,” a clear allusion to the court’s recent decision to overturn Roe v Wade. It was, he claimed, another example of the “global assault on democracy and freedom”.

I do not suppose it occurred to Harry that the US constitution makes no reference to abortion, or that the 1973 case in question has long been criticised as judicial overreach. Or that even the late Supreme Court justice and feminist Ruth Bader Ginsburg conceded 30 years ago that Roe had been decided hastily and on questionable grounds.

Harry need not have fretted about the loss of constitutional liberties. As his speech demonstrated, his First Amendment right to make a fool of himself is unimpeded. But instead of slagging off his foreign hosts, he could have reflected on how Americans have previously reacted when a sanctimonious British blowhard presumed to lecture them about their domestic affairs.

Take for example when The Guardian initiated a campaign in 2004 to urge undecided voters in the upcoming election not to re-elect President George W. Bush. In addition to the 14,000 British readers who wrote to voters in Clark County, Ohio, the campaign featured open letters from “three prominent Britons,” that being biologist and author Richard Dawkins along with novelists Antonia Fraser and John le Carré.

As expected, the missives were insufferably condescending. “If Bush is finally elected properly, that will be the time for Americans travelling abroad to simulate a Canadian accent,” wrote Dawkins. He and the others succeeded only in angering their target audience, irrespective of political allegiance. “We have pulled your chestnuts out of the fire in two world wars that were occasioned by European diplomacy,” wrote one American in response. “Maybe you’d like a vote in which American president will oversee the next rescue.” Touché.

Not surprisingly, Clark County – which the Democrats won in 2000 – switched to the GOP.

The occasion for Harry’s speech was the observance of Nelson Mandela International Day. That great man needs no introduction, save for the fact his tribulations, while terrible and longstanding, were minuscule compared to what Harry and his wife, Meghan Markle, have suffered. “I speak to you today with humility,” declared Harry as he began his speech. Now there’s a man in desperate need of a dictionary, I thought.

“In our own time … when it’s all too easy to look around and feel anger or despair, I’ve been inspired to go back to Mandela’s writings,” he said. It’s not just Mandela who Harry feels an affinity for, it’s Africa in general. “I’ve always found hope on the continent,” he said. “In fact, for most of my life, it has been my lifeline, a place where I have found peace and healing time and time again.”

I feel for him. Living in a nine bedroom, 16-bathroom mansion in the Californian super-wealthy coastal enclave of Montecito would not only be taxing but also existentially stressful. As Harry said in his speech, “Right now, the water is rising all around us – in some places, quite literally.” In these melancholy times I too would be whistling for the private jet. Africa would be an ideal location for my spiritual healing, provided of course the retreat is an exclusive luxury resort where the only locals you see are the ones waiting on you. After all, who would deny a self-appointed saviour of the planet his much-needed solitude?

Given Harry feels the need to seek solace in Mandela’s words, perhaps I can suggest a few quotes. First: “Real leaders must be ready to sacrifice all for the freedom of their people.” My interpretation only, but ‘sacrifice’ should not be conflated with abrogation of duty. For example, one does not sacrifice all by announcing his intention to “withdraw” from official duties, only to enrich himself by monetising the royal brand.

Second: “A critical, independent, and investigative press is the lifeblood of any democracy. The press must be free from state interference.” So far Harry and/or Meghan has threatened legal action against The Sun, The Daily Mirror, The Mail on Sunday, Splash News, and the BBC.

Third: “Resentment is like drinking poison and then hoping it will kill your enemies.” That includes conflated resentment, otherwise known as the golden goose for race grifters.

In his defence, Harry is just one of many bloviaters who have used the UN as a hailer for their excruciating platitudes. Mind you, even the most experienced diplomats in the audience would have had trouble keeping a neutral expression when Harry declared, “We have an obligation to give as much if not more than we take”.

Next time Harry visits Windsor Castle, the Queen should arrange for a certain Mandela quote to be displayed prominently at the entrance. How satisfying it would be to see Harry’s face when he reads the inscription “In some ways, it is easier to be a dissident, for then one is without responsibility.”

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 5:54 pm

Swimmer

Yes, yes. Sometimes you just have to learn lessons the hard way and there’s no escape. Sometimes, you just can’t get off the tracks from a slow moving locomotive.

cohenite
July 21, 2022 5:59 pm

I’m not actually. The less renewballs work, the better as it means the real energy producing are there gunning it. Hopefully, people begin to see just how fucking useless that junk is.

The problem is whenever evidence is presented that ruinables are failures the more the greenies scream that more must be built. Fact check: turtlehead.

NSW needs about 12000MW for peak demand. Currently there is in NSW over 20000MW of installed ruinables.

This is not a rational situation because alarmists are lunatics.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 21, 2022 6:00 pm

There was all this cartwheeling being done by people on this site as they predicted the smaller rightwing parties would take votes away. Those parties performed abominably in terms of expectations. The Teal Tarts and the Greens did really well though. ?

I agree, JC. It is a sad and disconcerting truth.

In Britain other issues, such as Brexit and the EU dramas, meant that the climate cult, while widely believed in, didn’t have quite the electoral strength that it has in Australia, where the normal extreme weather cycles of our continent allow climate luvvies to have a catastrophising field day. Our coal and gas resources and our sale of these into other countries also quicken the CO2 pulse of the luvvies while our aboriginal histories are used to reboot the ‘return to Eden’ nature fantasies of wind and solar.

bespoke
bespoke
July 21, 2022 6:01 pm

men are always right, about everything.
And better at everything, including at being women.

That’s a good girl, rosie

John of Mel
John of Mel
July 21, 2022 6:02 pm

‘Total BS’: White House forced to issue clarification after Biden cancer gaffe

White House Clarifies That Biden Only Claimed To Have Cancer Due To His Dementia

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
July 21, 2022 6:08 pm

Winston, regarding Evushield – whether you’re a Convid believer or not all the approved medications and treatments surrounding it have been proved to be harmful. We know full well that not all in the household succumb if one person has it and that all the hospitalised go to hospital with something else. How do you prove this latest, greatest drug containing who knows what in reality prevented someone from contacting something? Does “prevents infection and transmission” vax claims ring a bell? A quick search clearly states both are experimental. They are IM injections. The alarm bells should be sounding and ring long and hard.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 6:08 pm

This is not a rational situation because alarmists are lunatics.

Lunatics presently in charge of the asylum.

Frank
Frank
July 21, 2022 6:10 pm

NCFIRE. Monthly breakdown of illegal immigrants that get charged with sex crimes against minors in North Carolina, seems like a lot for somewhere with a population of 10 million. Surprising they haven’t chased sites like that off the internet.

Tom
Tom
July 21, 2022 6:11 pm

According to the Bureau of Mythology, tonight will be below freezing in southern Victoria — the coldest night this year.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 6:12 pm

This is not a rational situation because alarmists are lunatics.

I was never one for pulling the kids away from screwing up except if they were in serious danger. Our fellow citizens need to suffer the consequences for supporting politcal parties that hate man made energy. Sure, we all suffer but there’s really not much we can do.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 6:13 pm

Tom

Can I suggest a small edit if it’s coming from the Bureau?

Here:

According to the Bureau of Mythology, tonight will be below freezing in southern Victoria — the warmest night this year.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 21, 2022 6:15 pm

H B Bearsays:
July 21, 2022 at 9:22 am

I’ve just read back, Bear.

Like it was for Dorothy, I hope it feels the say way for you.

jupes
jupes
July 21, 2022 6:15 pm

Face facts, this is a leftwing electorate and has THE weakest Right in the Anglo world because the electorate is very leftwing. I don’t want to labor this, but it’s very clear why it’s culturally so.

The reason we have a green electorate is because the SFLs cave at every single opportunity, rather than stand on principle. They created that electorate.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 6:18 pm

According to the Bureau of Mythology, tonight will be below freezing in southern Victoria — the coldest night this year.

The flip side of Europe’s heat wave.

Fireplace roaring here in sunny Queensland.

bespoke
bespoke
July 21, 2022 6:18 pm

But will it turn for the better or continue to get worse, JC?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 21, 2022 6:19 pm

JC

As the media either suffocate by not covering, or assassinate by “they are NaZis!!!” any minor right party compared to the millions in free amplification/brand recognition they gave the performing teals I dont think your comparison is valid.
Add to that the only major “right” party basically saying ‘we will do exactly the same, but slower” and you have demoralized and disengaged a lot of voters.

There will never, and can never be a major right wing party in Oz until the ABC is shut down.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 21, 2022 6:20 pm

**same**

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 6:23 pm

I dunno Bespoke. We turned in the 80s and ended up going from a nation heading quickly down through the global per capita GDP ladder ending up at the top. Argentina never made it back in the 30s though. The thing that worries me is that you don’t see people in the streets protesting about very expensive energy.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 21, 2022 6:26 pm

Thanks Walker for posting the piece by The Mocker.

He sums up the hypocrisy of the ginge and the skank beautifully.

bespoke
bespoke
July 21, 2022 6:26 pm

you don’t see people in the streets protesting about very expensive energy.

Give six months.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 6:27 pm

The thing that worries me is that you don’t see people in the streets protesting about very expensive energy.

Australians generally are not a demonstrative people.

But give it time and enough pain and they will respond.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 21, 2022 6:27 pm

Anyone who went bush with the issued socks instead of Explorers deserved all the blisters they got.

And if you used the issue winter gear …
We did an exercise in Tassie in ’87 and I went to Paddy Palin and hired a cold weather tent rather than use the hootchie, a proper alpine sleeping bag instead of the then laughable “winter weight” sleeping bag and purchased some real cold weather socks and a nice warm jumper (looked like the issue green “British” style jumper but much warmer).

Just as well as even though it was November, we still got snowed on.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 6:28 pm

They created that electorate.

The long march through the educational insitituions created this electorate.

No conservative political party in the West has proven up to countering that.

Least of all ours.

bespoke
bespoke
July 21, 2022 6:29 pm

Give it six months, JC.

And that depends on how money uses to placate the people.

Tom
Tom
July 21, 2022 6:31 pm

The thing that worries me is that you don’t see people in the streets protesting about very expensive energy.

That’s because most of the Australian middle class has made a motza on real estate. It’s the only thing Australian governments haven’t interfered with. The Liars lost the 2019 federal election because they tried to.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 6:32 pm

Jupes

Governments closed this country down for two years give or take and the herd accepted it. In Melbourne, there were something like 100,000 dobs per fucking month to the cops of neighbors failing in their duty to observe thems rules. Face it, it’s a former prison colony and “gov” was the boss who you listened to for that extra slice of stale bread.

It’s a socialist country.

Look at it this way.

The libs get tossed out because the electorate gets bored with them. The Liars get tossed when it’s glaringly obvious they fucked up royally. The punters then want the Libs to come back and fix things.

It’s a socialist country and that’s just how it is. A disturbing number are green left.

bespoke
bespoke
July 21, 2022 6:35 pm

Now if the internet went down.
1.5 days before rioting braking out.

Zipster
Zipster
July 21, 2022 6:35 pm

china in focus
00:51 Intel Lobbies Congress Over China Rules in #ChipBill
03:07 China Warns U.S. After Ship Sails the #TaiwanStrait
04:51 Ex-Defense Sec.: One-China Policy Is Now Useless
07:32 President Tsai Meets Senior EU Rep., China Responds
08:55 New EU Ambassador to China: We Need China to Face Global Challenges
10:26 Putin Forges Ties W/ Iran’s Supreme Leader in Tehran
12:41 Paskal: Multiple Concerns Over Chinese Purchases of U.S. Farmland

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 6:40 pm

Lizzie:

Here health administrators are simply recognising the medical truth that normal insemination of women will usually produce children, i.e. these women have no medical condition of infertility requiring IVF, just a mental dislike of the usual method of fertilisation.

Then shouldn’t this mental/emotional bias render them unfit for the upbringing of children?

Tom
Tom
July 21, 2022 6:41 pm

It’s a socialist country.

Yep.

local oaf
July 21, 2022 6:42 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
July 21, 2022 at 2:14 pm

Nothing at wiki but I’m sure I read somewhere that he was injured in WW2 when a V1 hit.

Seems he served in both World Wars – wounded in WW1, and never spoke of his service in WW2.

It might have been in a British radio program entitled “Excusing Private Godfrey”. Could have been his son who told about the V1.

If I can find it, I’ll check and quote.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 21, 2022 6:43 pm

I went to Paddy Palin and hired a cold weather tent rather than use the hootchie

Paddy Palin in Perth, in the 1980’s did a roaring trade in good quality cold weather sleeping bags, the Berghaus pattern packs issued to the Royal Marines, the forerunners of the goretex bivvi sacks, and the little GAZ “Bluey” stoves – they sped up morning routine no end..

jupes
jupes
July 21, 2022 6:48 pm

It’s a socialist country and that’s just how it is. A disturbing number are green left.

I agree. But it is a socialist country because there is no conservative government, or conservative media for that matter, to counter the bullshit. They cave rather than fight.

rosie
rosie
July 21, 2022 6:49 pm

I too hope all is well with your grandchild areff.
I’m also getting a new one in September.
Not long to go at all now.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 21, 2022 6:53 pm

Judge in Roberts-Smith case urged to reject domestic violence ‘stereotypes’
By Michaela Whitbourn
July 21, 2022 — 1.06pm

The Federal Court should reject “outdated stereotypes” about domestic violence victims when considering whether war veteran Ben Roberts-Smith punched his former lover in the face, his defamation case has heard.

The court is hearing closing submissions in the defamation suit brought by the decorated former soldier against The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald and The Canberra Times. Roberts-Smith claims the newspapers wrongly accused him of war crimes and an act of domestic violence against a woman dubbed Person 17.

The media outlets are seeking to rely chiefly on a defence of truth and Nicholas Owens, SC, acting for the newspapers, addressed the allegation relating to Person 17 on Thursday.

He urged the court to reject submissions made by Roberts-Smith’s lawyers, filed in court but not released publicly, that he said were “premised on thoroughly outmoded and outdated and discredited stereotypes about how a victim of domestic violence should behave in relation to their attacker in the aftermath of an assault”.

“The attack upon her [credibility] is without merit,” Owens said.

The court has heard Roberts-Smith and Person 17 continued their relationship for a brief time after he allegedly punched her in the face following a dinner in Canberra in March 2018.

Owens submitted that it was “hardly unusual” for a victim to wish to have continuing contact with their abuser, and she had told the court she “thought she got what she deserved for being silly”.

The court has heard Roberts-Smith had ended a turbulent six-month affair with Person 17 by the time the newspaper articles at the centre of the case were published. The former soldier told the court last year he did not object to the use of the word “affair” but insisted he was separated from his wife at the time, a claim disputed in court by his estranged wife, Emma Roberts.

Person 17, whose identity was suppressed by the court, gave evidence that Roberts-Smith punched her on the left side of her face and eye following a dinner in Parliament House in Canberra in March 2018 after she embarrassed him by falling down the stairs while drunk at the venue and bumping her head.

Roberts-Smith rejects the allegation and has told the court he tended to the bump on the woman’s head with ice. A former army officer at the dinner has also said he witnessed Person 17 fall down the stairs and sustain a “very large haematoma on the left side of her forehead above her eye”.

Owens said Person 17 had “never denied” that she had fallen down the stairs while drunk, or that she suffered a serious eye injury as a result. He said it “does not follow at all” that because Person 17 sustained an injury earlier that night that she was not punched later in the evening.

Owens accepted that the court was not in a position to assess whether the cause of the woman’s black eye was the fall or the alleged punch, but said: “We say, rhetorically, what does that matter?”

He said Roberts-Smith was not suing over a suggestion that he caused a black eye but an alleged imputation that he assaulted Person 17.

“Whether the black eye was caused by the fall [or] … the punch or a combination of the two is simply irrelevant,” Owens said.

He submitted that Roberts-Smith was “plainly upset” with Person 17’s conduct that evening and it was not implausible that he “lashed out” at her at their hotel room. There was an “overwhelming” imperative to obtain medical help for Person 17 but Roberts-Smith did not do so, he said.

Emma Roberts, giving evidence for the media outlets, told the court her husband’s lover arrived unannounced at the marital home in April 2018 with a “black eye” and revealed their affair had just come to an end.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 6:56 pm

Governments closed this country down for two years give or take and the herd accepted it. In Melbourne, there were something like 100,000 dobs per fucking month to the cops of neighbors failing in their duty to observe thems rules. Face it, it’s a former prison colony and “gov” was the boss who you listened to for that extra slice of stale bread.

I haven’t checked the stats, but I suspect Melbourne, of all Australian cities, has the highest number of foreign born residents.

P
P
July 21, 2022 6:56 pm

P, lovely to hear of your talented grandie. You have every reason to be proud. I expect he inherited his musical talent from his (late) Grandfather.

Delta good to hear from you, as always.

This grandson’s talent came from both grandfathers. My daughter-in-law’s father is also a musician. Both of his grandfathers were born in Holland.
How strange and wonderful life is.

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 6:59 pm

As an anglo-celt, I can say that dobbing was always despised when I was growing up.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Fireplace roaring here in sunny Queensland.

She’s a land of contrasts.
One day a couple of weeks ago the punters asked could the aircon temperature be turned down “a bit”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 21, 2022 7:08 pm

At last women are standing up for motherhood. Sal Grover at the Telegraph started an outrage campaign when as a new mother she was asked to nominate as a birthing person on a Medicare Form.
Bill Shorten as Health Minister has stepped in and said he will cancel these ‘on trial’ forms of the previous government. But the activist journalists still feel bound to report the following on the Oz:

Each year in Australia, several men give birth to children. In 2014-2015, as many as 55 men gave birth, according to Medicare records.

Men do not and never will give birth to children. (It is outrageous to even suggest it in reportage).
Confused women thinking they are male may do so though.

If anyone female is offended by this, and wants to be known as a man, then don’t have children.
You do a child in utero no good at all taking male hormones so it is a wise decision to desist.
Should be illegal to take male hormones when pregnant, imho. Harmful to bub, end of story.

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 7:11 pm

Farmer Gez:

I’m having a cuppa and trying to delay unloading the trailer of fire wood I cut this morning. Everything aches.

How’d you cut the firewood?
I’m fascinated by the ingenuity of people who do that every year…

Roger
Roger
July 21, 2022 7:11 pm

And that most likely is a holdover from the convict culture.

JC
JC
July 21, 2022 7:17 pm

Roger says:
July 21, 2022 at 7:11 pm
And that most likely is a holdover from the convict culture.

Yes Roger, that was the point I was making indirectly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 21, 2022 7:20 pm

On electricity supply.
There will be some tolerance for price increases.
There will be zero tolerance if the lights go out.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 21, 2022 7:21 pm

How’d you cut the firewood?

Ask the Germans.
Half of Germany is busy cutting up secret forests in order to survive the coming winter.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
July 21, 2022 7:24 pm

How’d you cut the firewood?
I’m fascinated by the ingenuity of people who do that every year…

MS 362 Stihl Chainsaw with a tungsten chain and a transportable Gravely hydraulic log splitter.
The videos show green wood. None of those devices would work on cured hardwood. You can cut gum up green but you have to wait a couple of years for it to dry out.

m0nty
m0nty
July 21, 2022 7:25 pm

Speaking of evil industries you do know your own is only a whisker away from being associated with the evil gambling industry?

Don’t get me started.

The truth of the matter is that traditional fantasy sports – salary cap competitions like Supercoach and draft leagues like Ultimate Footy – are an excellent way to enjoy sports without gambling. So of course the gambling operators couldn’t be having that, so they devised daily fantasy sports which injected gambling into a new hybrid product… DFS is what the article is complaining about. The gambling operators treat fantasy sports as a gateway drug to their harder stuff, and back it up with endless advertising, but it never had to be that way.

DFS has had its run and is dropping off, seemingly. The main DFS operators are now focusing on traditional sportsbooks, as that is where the real money is. Hopefully that means fantasy sports can grow in peace again.

Diogenes
Diogenes
July 21, 2022 7:26 pm

the Berghaus pattern packs issued to the Royal Marines,

When we got back the CO, my OC and the Adj bought what I had hired.

I was given one of those packs when I was commissioned. You couldn’t get anything into those dreadful “Vietnam” packs.

jupes
jupes
July 21, 2022 7:29 pm

Just thinking out aloud. How did we get to be a nation of socialist bed-wetters?

My first exposure to politics was when I was growing up and starting work in the seventies. My impression of the left of that time was an amalgamation of militant unionism and hippy types sticking it to the man. Authority was despised.

What I didn’t realise at the time was that the taking over of the institutions was underway but in its infancy. The police, defence force, RSL, sporting clubs and probably even schools, were still conservative institutions.

The take over was conducted one cut at a time, but my word, look how far they have come. Now lefties – the vast majority of Australians – are just toadies for the man. At no point did conservatives in general and the SFL in particular draw a line in the sand and say enough.

Just fucking disgraceful.

Zipster
Zipster
July 21, 2022 7:40 pm
Frank
Frank
July 21, 2022 7:40 pm

At no point did conservatives in general and the SFL in particular draw a line in the sand and say enough.

Given a few decades of being the man and the left will be primed for the same game to be played on them. They are not very gracious in power which helps since it instills a sense of glee in bringing it down about their ears, just a shame for those generations that get lost in the interim.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 21, 2022 7:41 pm

You couldn’t get anything into those dreadful “Vietnam” packs.

Shaving gear and spare socks…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 21, 2022 7:41 pm

DFS has had its run and is dropping off, seemingly. The main DFS operators are now focusing on traditional sportsbooks, as that is where the real money is. Hopefully that means fantasy sports can grow in peace again.

For your sake I hope so.
One “my son offed himself because he bet all the rent money on fantasy footy” away from being legislated like the TAB.

If you think thats an exaggeration remember the rental (furniture etc) business went from straightforward “you pay “x” dollars a week for the fridge” to being treated as a lending agency and operating under ASIC auspices.

Based on customers lying about being able to pay and getting into debt.

Zipster
Zipster
July 21, 2022 7:42 pm

The police, defence force, RSL, sporting clubs and probably even schools, were still conservative institutions.

especially the schools and unis. the catholic schools were just cranking out SJWs

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 21, 2022 7:47 pm

Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss, two children of Margaret Thatcher, vie to succeed Boris Johnson The Economist

An hour ago July 21, 2022
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The British Conservative Party has spent three decades seeking an heir to Margaret Thatcher. It now has two pretenders to choose from.

On Thursday (AEST), after nearly a fortnight of often vicious campaigning, the field of would-be Conservative leaders was reduced to just two. They are Rishi Sunak, whose resignation as chancellor helped precipitate Boris Johnson’s fall, and Liz Truss, the outwardly loyal foreign secretary who made up ground as other contenders dropped out.

Conservative Party members will have the final say in a ballot over the northern summer; a new party leader and prime minister will be installed in early September. Mr Sunak won the support of more MPs and goes down better with swing voters, according to Opinium, a pollster. Ms Truss is more popular with members by a distance, and is therefore the bookmakers’ favourite.

Both seek to harness the ghost of Thatcher as they battle to follow her into Downing Street. Ms Truss was raised by nuclear-disarmament activists before turning to the right at university. Her critics see in her a bizarre tribute act to the party’s most deified figure: she flecks her speech with Thatcherite aphorisms, dresses like the former prime minister and lauds Ronald Reagan. Mr Sunak is a Stanford MBA graduate who speaks with the sunny inflections of Silicon Valley; no 1980s-style pinstripes here. But he is an emblem of the era of globalisation that Thatcher helped usher in: he made a small fortune in the City and married the daughter of an Indian tech billionaire.

The two draw distinctly different lessons from the Thatcher era. Ms Truss, like much of her party, remembers Thatcherism as a tax-cutting project. This is the legend that is told on tea-towels at the annual party conference. She promises to reverse tax hikes, either implemented or planned during Mr Sunak’s tenure as chancellor, worth 2 per cent of GDP (compared with a reduction in the tax take of 4.7 per cent of GDP under Thatcher.) “We are predicted to have a recession because you have raised tax,” she told Mr Sunak in a debate on Monday (AEST).

For Mr Sunak this is a partial telling. He recalls Thatcherism as a project to tame inflation, which he regards as “the ultimate enemy” and which tax cuts now would risk fuelling. Prices rose by 9.4 per cent in the year to June, the highest rate since 1982. Mr Sunak styles himself as a fiscal disciplinarian, who, like Thatcher, helped with the books in his parents’ shop and who was blown off course only by the pandemic.

In an address in February, he approvingly quoted Nigel Lawson, a Thatcher-era chancellor, who rejected the notion that unfunded tax cuts would pay for themselves through economic stimulus as a “spurious kind of virtuous circle”. “This something-for-nothing economics isn’t conservative, it’s socialism,” he told Ms Truss in the debate.

Ms Truss more strongly echoes Thatcher in her monetary policy. She has suggested she would revise the mandate of the Bank of England to tackle inflation. “We have not been tough enough on monetary supply,” she said, voicing a widespread concern that quantitative easing has driven spiralling prices. Setting money-supply targets would mimic an unsuccessful Thatcher experiment in the early 1980s. Mr Sunak defends the central bank’s record, and has rightly said he is “worried” by the direction of the debate.

The two candidates agree on a Thatcherite agenda of post-Brexit deregulation, although Mr Sunak’s plans are more fleshed out. He promises a “Big Bang 2.0” for the City (in truth, his proposals to date are more like a balloon pop). And both have Thatcherite instincts on the climate; the former prime minister was hostile to government subsidies but increasingly agitated by the state of the planet. Both have said they support the target of reducing Britain’s carbon emissions to net zero by 2050. But Mr Sunak says it must be done “in a way that carries people with us”; Ms Truss thinks it can be “more market-friendly

m0nty
m0nty
July 21, 2022 7:48 pm

One “my son offed himself because he bet all the rent money on fantasy footy” away from being legislated like the TAB.

Fantasy sports are heavily regulated already, they come under pretty much the same rules as the TAB. There’s only one decent operator in Australia now, and it’s extremely small fry compared to the wider gambling industry.

Nice try mole, but that ship has bolted, the horse has sailed, it’s not a thing much any more.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 21, 2022 7:49 pm

Just thinking out aloud. How did we get to be a nation of socialist bed-wetters?

The legacy of the Whitlam and the Fraser years.

cohenite
July 21, 2022 7:50 pm

The new State of the Environment report that plibbers has been masturbating with is astounding. It’s 3 main authors are all green activist scientists while by the looks of it every other author is a 3rd nations wannabe:

https://soe.dcceew.gov.au/overview/about-chapter/authors-and-acknowledgements

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 21, 2022 7:54 pm

On electricity supply.
There will be some tolerance for price increases.
There will be zero tolerance if the lights go out.

Spot prices are down a bit from when I looked at 5:30pm, but are still over $400/MWh in Vic-NSW-Qld.

That means the retailers are bleeding money since the retail price is around 30-35c/kWh on your electricity bill, depending. This can’t continue or we’re going to have a slew of electricity retailers going bankrupt pretty soon.

There’ll be a fair number squawks from the punters when their retailer goes bottom up. Especially when the one who replaces the dead one ups the retail price.

Zipster
Zipster
July 21, 2022 7:57 pm

In 2014-2015, as many as 55 men gave birth, according to Medicare records.

mental illness

local oaf
July 21, 2022 7:58 pm

Yes, Arnold Ridley was blown up by a doodlebug (V1) in his own backyard during WW2.

The story comes from Ridley’s son Nicolas, who wrote a memoir about his father, Godfrey’s ghost.

https://www.amazon.com.au/Godfreys-Ghost-Nicolas-Ridley/dp/1906132992

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 21, 2022 8:01 pm

Zipstersays:
July 21, 2022 at 7:40 pm
the most popular potus ever

Joe Biden to Deliver Huge Climate Change Speech to 20 People in Somerset… But He Totally Got 81 Million Votes (VIDEO)

Biden will be delivering a speech on climate change to a huge crowd of 20 people in Somerset, Massachusetts.

Joe Biden was expected to declare a “national climate emergency” during his remarks, but the White House said that will not happen today.

About 20 chairs were laid out for Joe’s big speech… but he totally got 81 million votes in 2020.

WATCH:

Anchor What
Anchor What
July 21, 2022 8:05 pm

The new State of the Environment report that plibbers has been … you know!
Yep, Bolt did the number on it tonight. He’s still of some use.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 21, 2022 8:07 pm

Attacks On Rep. Victoria Spartz Should Pique Your Curiosity

BY: DAVID HARSANYI JULY 20, 2022

Everyone should read my colleague John Daniel Davidson’s excellent piece detailing Rep. Victoria Spartz and her claims about Ukrainian corruption.

Whatever you make of Spartz’s contentions, the very fact that a Republican House Foreign Affairs Committee member is given anonymity to smear a colleague who is bringing up issues the media should be asking legislators about is curious. If Spartz is spreading conspiracies or fabrications, a Republican House Committee member should be able to publicly debunk those claims—otherwise cynics may get the idea someone is trying to hide something.

One probable reason for hiding behind anonymity to level these attacks is that any assurance of Ukraine’s virtuousness could easily backfire. Ukraine was one of the most corrupt in Europe before the Russian invasion, and there’s no reason to believe it has suddenly reformed as tens of billions of dollars flow in. A 2018 report ranked Ukraine around 130 of 180 countries and territories in corruption, in the vicinity of Gambia, Iran, and Myanmar on the list. Pointing out this reality doesn’t make you pro-Putin—that gangster’s country is slotted in one space lower than Ukraine.

If Volodymyr Zelensky’s confidants—namely, Andriy Yermak and Oleh Tatarov—are trusted stewards of seemingly unlimited aid, it does nothing to diminish our support for “democracy” to ask for more coordination and oversight. The anonymous source tells Politico that we’ve already “vetted these guys.”

We have? The story offers no evidence to back this assertion up. Did they vet these guys like they did our Taliban allies? Are “we” providing the same meticulous oversight over the aid that we did over the up to $400 billion stolen from the Covid relief bill? We have no reason to take these people at their word.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
July 21, 2022 8:09 pm

I’m fascinated by the ingenuity of people who do that every year…

Winston’s firewood splitters (7.11pm).

Off to the workshop! I have a welder, lots of scrap steel and an old 12hp electric motor.

That rotating arm wood splitting thing has great possibility, alternatively it might kill me in a seriously gruesome manner.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 21, 2022 8:12 pm

The Aircraft Carrier Question: Obsolete or Not?

By Robert Farley July 21, 2022

If aircraft carriers are obsolete, then why do so many countries continue to build and buy them?

The question goes to the core of modern naval procurement, and not just in the United States. The People’s Liberation Army has assembled a vast array of systems designed to destroy aircraft carriers and thus deter them from entering contested waters. At the same time, the PLAN is in the process of fitting out its third (and largest) carrier, with additional vessels apparently on the way.

And China is hardly alone; in the last decade, the United Kingdom has built and commissioned two large carriers, Japan has modified two existing flat-decked aviation ships to operate modern fighters, and India has acquired a refurbished Russian carrier and built one of its own. South Korea is strongly considering its own carrier program, despite living in a neighborhood with plenty of terrestrial threats.

So to reiterate: When every new analysis seems to indicate that carriers can be found by satellites and killed by missiles, why do navies continue to acquire carriers? The fact that countries continue to build them does not necessarily prove the enduring military relevance of carriers because, of course, navies continued to build battleships well into World War II, after it became clear that they could not offer a good return on investment.

Two answers are worth considering.

– Utility
– Prestige

Final Shots

Not everyone is enamored with aircraft carriers.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 21, 2022 8:28 pm

Mayor Adams’ wake-up on migrant flights

By Miranda Devine

Doesn’t Mayor Adams read The Post?

He must have missed the past nine months of our reporting on Joe Biden’s secret midnight flights bringing illegal migrants to New York from the southern border practically every night.

He must have missed our reports on charter buses dropping them off at city-owned affordable housing in The Bronx and Yonkers, or at nonprofits in Queens and Newburgh, or at a rest stop on the New Jersey Turnpike.

All of a sudden, it’s a big surprise to him when illegal migrants overwhelm city resources? Hard to believe.

Maybe, instead of partying at Zero Bond into the wee hours he could ask the mayoral limo to drive him to White Plains Airport or Stewart International Airport in the Hudson Valley one night where he could watch migrant flights land, typically from the Texas border town of Harlingen via El Paso and Jacksonville, Fla.

The federal government pays for these flights operated by four airlines, Aero, Avelo, World Atlantic Airways and a new Canadian operator, Global X, which are getting rich facilitating a border invasion on the taxpayer dime.

Ol’ Joe’s pal

But Adams doesn’t want to blame his friend, President Biden, for this unwelcome burden on city resources, so he’s falsely claiming Texas and Arizona caused the problem.

How dumb does he think we are?

It’s not Texas or Arizona sending thousands of illegal migrants to New York unannounced. It’s Joe Biden, who flung open the southern border on his first day in office, allowing in more than 3 million illegal migrants and counting. His administration has been efficient only at dispersing them around the country to avoid the bad optics of overcrowded detention centers at the border. It sets them free on an honor system to show up at court in a year or two — or, more likely, never.

That means every state is a border state and Biden’s problem is now Adams’ problem.
At a press conference Tuesday, the mayor begged for “additional federal resources immediately” because the city’s social safety net is struggling to cope with a “marked increase in the number of asylum-seekers who are arriving from Latin America and other regions” — 2,800 in recent weeks, he says. That would be about 13 planeloads — just a couple of weeks’ worth of Biden’s flights.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 21, 2022 8:40 pm

Nice try mole, but that ship has bolted, the horse has sailed, it’s not a thing much any more.

Rental furniture/whitegoods was around for decades as well.
Only took a minister looking for a crusade and a “poor people” advocate to give them one.

And dont get me wrong, I wouldnt want it to happen to your business, every time they try to ‘help” they seem to always “accidentally” wipe out any smaller operators while the big operators sail on with improved margins.

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 8:53 pm

Top Ender:

He said that he immediately ordered officials to “cease” using the two-word term that claimed it was implemented as “part of a pilot program launched in three hospitals under the previous Coalition Government”.
“When I was informed of this situation yesterday, I instructed the responsible officials they should cease using the previous government’s forms,” Mr Shorten tweeted.

Now, Bill can identify and show the data that was used for this bit of wokester terminology.
Or is he going to tell them to be a bit more subtle and let it slide?
Because if there’s one thing the Shorten won’t do is make a stand on a principle if he can leverage good press out of it.

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 9:05 pm

Timothy Neilson:

m0nty, so we can do a proper quantified analysis, can you please:

.c: How much do you pay yourself from your endeavours.
.1 Basic Wage.
.2 Other.

P
P
July 21, 2022 9:13 pm

jupes says:
July 21, 2022 at 7:29 pm

My first exposure to politics was when I was growing up and starting work in the seventies. My impression of the left of that time was an amalgamation of militant unionism and hippy types sticking it to the man. Authority was despised.

What I didn’t realise at the time was that the taking over of the institutions was underway but in its infancy.

Yes, it was in the mid to late seventies that the Catholic Church here in Aus, esp Catholic education in NSW, was being infiltrated.
My involvement in endeavouring with my parish priest to expose this was unfortunately to the detriment of my youngest child, my daughter, who was still a pupil of the parish school. Fortunately both my boys were by then at the Brothers.

miltonf
miltonf
July 21, 2022 9:22 pm

It’s odd isn’t that 40 years ago the power and telephones were done by the government and we had government owned retail banks. Even government insurance. And now we are less free than we were then.

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 9:23 pm

Old Ozzie:
From your link on power consumption by cars/households:

An average Australian house consumes electricity amounting to 18 KiloWatt(KW) per day or 6570 KW per hour.

The original quote is similar –

An average Australian house consumes electricity amounting to 18 KiloWatt(KW) per day or 6570 KW per hour.

miltonf
miltonf
July 21, 2022 9:26 pm

we have an electorate that is not viscerally against government intervention

Nor am I. It depends on the nature of the intervention. What’s wrong with Australia is the same as in the yookay or US or Canada- a marxist march through the institutions and the misuse of executive/legislative/judicial power to enforce marxist ideology.

miltonf
miltonf
July 21, 2022 9:30 pm

And we also are stuck with an adjacent ‘conservative’ punditry that isn’t conservative; classically liberal to be sure, but still liberal.

free markets with poor job security may not be conducive to family formation

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 9:30 pm

Boambee John:

Removing all subsidies to ruinable “power” companies would also assist greatly. Also, they should have to pay for their own connections of remote, distributed, sites to the existing grid.

They’re going to do it ‘right’ this time.
Aaahhahaha!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 21, 2022 9:32 pm

It’s odd isn’t that 40 years ago the power and telephones were done by the government and we had government owned retail banks. Even government insurance. And now we are less free than we were then.

I just watched a Tom MacDonald music video which rages against The System for using algorithms programming you to do whatever it wants, to value money over life itself, eat bad food, and make babies that will do it all over again.
The next two advertisements youtube showed were for ANZ home loans and McDonalds creme bruleés.

The System at least has a sense of humour.

Winston Smith
July 21, 2022 9:40 pm

Mother Load:

Putin is physically and mentally healthier than the dissolute geriatric creep in the White House.

My cat, “Fatso – Devourer of Chickens and Other Wild Beasts” gone to cat heaven after multiple tauntings of the pig dogs next door, is more physically and mentally healthier than the Old Thief.
…and much better preserved.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 21, 2022 10:10 pm

From The Daily Examiner NZ (Google will get you to their page for full article). The article shows current numbers of Army, Nay and Air Force (combined 10,000) and chart shows a high %age considered unfit for overseas deployment (ie. more than half Privates to Sgt’s in the Army !).

However you can be sure they score high in diversity targets.

“A large group of sailors, soldiers and airmen have had a victory today against an order from the Chief of Defence Force (CDF) that sought to dismiss them from service if they didn’t receive a COVID-19 vaccine or booster. The order is the fourth attempt by the CDF to achieve this with the previous orders either being withdrawn or ruled as unlawful in court. In the interim hearing, Justice Ellis ruled against the Chief of Defence and ordered that no member of the armed forces was to be discharged based on their vaccination status until after a substantive hearing. A date is not yet set for a substantive hearing but it is likely to be late September in the Wellington High Court.

A recent OIA has shown that between 380 and 780 members of the armed forces would be likely to be discharged over the order. As a part of United We Stand, these service members have launched a legal challenge against it, represented by personnel from all three services. Many of the affected service members have had their careers put on hold and been banned from camps and bases for the majority of the past year. They are now joined by an increasing number of service members that don’t want to receive a booster and find themselves under the same threat of being discharged over it.

While the New Zealand Defence Force NZDF has maintained operational requirements as the reason for this mandate, this has been largely undermined by a recent OIA showing that over 48% of the NZDF are classified as “unfit” for overseas deployment anyway. For senior officers of the rank of Lt Col and above this sits at 54% as is shown below. However, there are a huge range of training and support roles that need to be filled within New Zealand and as long as a service member is adding value they’re generally retained. At a time where there are record attrition levels it is illogical to discharge capable people unnecessarily”.

Harlequin Decline
July 21, 2022 10:40 pm

Flew back into Sydney last night from Asia after 2 months away. Maybe 5% wearing masks on the plane although it was recommended that they should be worn. As requested people put them on exiting into the airport but then many demasked as a number of the airport staff were not wearing them.

No dramas on departure or arrival. The plane looked to be close to full capacity.

We were in a taxi and on our way home 30 minutes after landing.

jupes
jupes
July 21, 2022 11:05 pm

Maybe 5% wearing masks on the plane although it was recommended that they should be worn.

Which airline HD?

Harlequin Decline
July 21, 2022 11:06 pm

My partner and I both caught the Chinese Lung Rot when we were away. She got it first and then I came down with it 3 days later.

Different symptoms-

She had vomiting, chills,temperature sore throat,cough, headache, short term loss of taste/smell and fatigue.

I got the stuffy nose, sore throat, longer term loss of taste/smell and exhaustion version. No cough.

Both positive for 10 days according to the RAT tests but in each case symptoms improved after 4 days.

On the plus side I couldn’t smell a thing when I had to pick the dogshit up off the lawn.

Harlequin Decline
July 21, 2022 11:11 pm

Jupes,

It was Thai Airways. Good service and excellent food(much better than usual for them). No one chipped about wearing masks.

Planes are a bit old and crappy though. They came out of bankruptcy last year and have had to rationalise their fleet.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 21, 2022 11:23 pm

The Palaszczuk government agreed to pay $108m – or $300,000 a day – to a medical company to provide health services at its near-empty Wellcamp quarantine facility.

There was no open tender process undertaken before Aspen Medical was awarded the year-long contract to deliver medical treatment at the quarantine facility, which became obsolete just weeks after opening.

The 1000-bed centre has housed only about 700 people since it opened in February – an average of 30 guests each week – but those numbers have dwindled since mandatory quarantine was scrapped for unvaccinated international arrivals in April.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 21, 2022 11:37 pm

A day ! Clearly the concept of value for money is lost on Qld Govt. or should we follow the money ?

“$300,000 a day – to a medical company to provide health services at its near-em”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 22, 2022 12:24 am

Corruption in plain sight.

“A government insider believes Aspen has been paid $16m for providing services at Wellcamp since the centre opened, an average of about $700,000 a week.

Canberra-based Aspen Medical is a client of Labor-aligned ­lobbying firm Anacta Strategies, which secured eight meetings with the government on behalf of the company in the month before the contract was awarded”

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 22, 2022 12:36 am

Meanwhile VICPOL continue to show why they are the worst in the country. From the Herald Sun. Seems there is a suggestion they may have also bugged ex Detective Ron Iddles who had doubts about the case years ago. They are out of control and know Andrews will back them as the favours work both ways.

“Victoria Police could face a fresh corruption probe after bugging the phones of a key witness in the Silk-Miller police murders retrial.

Nicole Debs was due to appear as a crucial alibi witness at the retrial of Jason Roberts, claiming he was home in bed with her when the 1998 ambush killings of Sgt Gary Silk and Sen Constable Rodney Miller happened.

But Ms Debs, Roberts’ girlfriend 24 years ago, was a late withdrawal as a defence witness in the Supreme Court case, after asserting she had been “harassed” and “threatened” by police members”.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 22, 2022 1:00 am

Biden has Covid.

Winston Smith
July 22, 2022 1:44 am

Bourne 1879:

Biden has Covid.

Oh noes!
It can’t be ! Hillary isn’t in the VP position yet!
This means that the Kamela is going to have to break her neck getting out of bed this morning. Otherwise the Pelosi/Clinton Monster won’t become the First Evah Birthing Person President!

Are we entertained yet?

JC
JC
July 22, 2022 1:59 am

The site couldn’t last without you Turtlehead. The intellectual heft, the humor, the frightfulness. It’s all there.

Winston Smith
July 22, 2022 2:03 am

From Net Zero Watch:

“The government seems to have no grasp of the devastating energy crisis that is about to break. The personal finance expert Martin Lewis has warned of a cataclysmic energy emergency this autumn, but ministers are still pretending that the answer is to just go faster down the same road that has brought us to the brink of disaster. This is insane.”

Winston Smith
July 22, 2022 2:04 am

J.C.

The site couldn’t last without you Turtlehead. The intellectual heft, the humor, the frightfulness. It’s all there.

Thanks, J.C.
I do my best.

Winston Smith
July 22, 2022 2:24 am

https://americanlookout.com/new-york-citys-democrat-mayor-eric-adams-complains-about-influx-of-migrants-straining-resources-video/

Have you noticed that a lot of Democrats are saying this now that the problem is affecting them?

Tom
Tom
July 22, 2022 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
July 22, 2022 4:01 am
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