Open Thread – Tues 20 Sept 2022


The Tapestry Weavers, Diego Velazquez, c. 1655-1660

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Zatara
Zatara
September 20, 2022 11:08 am

I wonder if old Phil was still around that he would have put up with Andy and Harry being stripped of their rightful wearing of military uniforms.

One suspects that had they asked to wear the uniforms they actually earned rather than the honorary ranks granted them as Royals they may have had a case. Had Harry (for instance) asked to wear his Army Captain’s uniform and shaved his beard to meet uniform requirements who knows what might have happened.

Harry earned and served in the rank of Captain in the Royal Army but he was granted the honorary ranks of Captain General Royal Marines, Major in the British Army, Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy, and Squadron Leader in the Royal Air Force.

IMO the military organizations where they held honorary titles would have been rightly furious had they been allowed to ‘represent’ them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2022 11:09 am

What’s with Lefties and projection? Every single time.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2022 11:10 am

TE I think you made a mistake saying you were going to Canberra. Queanbeyan might have elicited a more favourable outcome. Besides Queanbeyan station is a lovely place, Kingston a dump.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2022 11:10 am

feelthebernsays:
September 20, 2022 at 10:41 am
People actually care about seating arrangements?
As long as you’re not sitting next to the toilet, who cares?

Just as some care about upticks.

Why not have upticks and downticks? Seems to work on Jo Nova’s Blog.

On second thoughts, it may not work here though………………………..As some are bound to complain.

cohenite
September 20, 2022 11:13 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
September 20, 2022 at 11:05 am
Green Progressivism is a religion. Adherents like Monty comfort themselves by reciting their scriptures, reassuring their inner child that they are indeed special.

Beat me to it. I would have used communism instead of green progressivism but that will do. Dickless, like all lefties projects, because they have no dick.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2022 11:13 am

FIFY Monty.

You beat me to it, Bruce.

“It’s not me…it’s you!”

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Cleese went off and did Fawlty Towers as a side project.

Yes, and he based Fawlty on an actual manager of a hotel the Python crew stayed at.

Fawlty Towers is essential viewing for anybody who works in hospitality.
It’s stress relief to watch someone treating the general public as they deserve to be treated.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2022 11:15 am

Green Progressivism is a religion in the same manner muzziness is. Destroys everything. If its not their way it is destroyed.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 11:17 am

Fawlty Towers is essential viewing for anybody who works in hospitality.
It’s stress relief to watch someone treating the general public as they deserve to be treated.

Undoubtedly . 🙂

Just kidding, Drills. Just kidding.

johanna
johanna
September 20, 2022 11:17 am

BoN – yep, same here. The Bureau issues a forecast for ‘record high temperatures’ around the region, which is faithfully parroted by TheirABC. That they almost never actually happen is never reported.

BTW, it was -2C here last night, a bit colder than usual for the time of year. So what? So nothing.

Some years ago, it snowed in the mountains on Christmas Eve.

That’s weather for you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 11:17 am

I am the one true blog-wrecker.
Thou shalt not worship false blog-wreckers.
….
Hi Faulty.
Hi No-Faulty.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2022 11:18 am

I don’t like to commit myself about heaven and hell – you see, I have friends in both places.

– Mark Twain

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I see my broken is in early.

rosie
rosie
September 20, 2022 11:18 am
custard
custard
September 20, 2022 11:22 am

LOL

MSNBC are losing their minds over the Q PsyOp and the pentagon are doing an enquiry…

Who’s in charge again?
https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/the-great-information-war-state-dept?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 20, 2022 11:23 am

feelthebernsays:
September 20, 2022 at 10:41 am
People actually care about seating arrangements?
As long as you’re not sitting next to the toilet, who cares?

For some, being close to the toilet is a benefit. I suspect that for some of the old blokes in the procession, the chance to visit a toilet after two or three hours of ceremony would have been a great relief (in more ways than one).

cohenite
September 20, 2022 11:25 am

Another reason why the mid terms are gone:

Error in Census Gives Democrats Major Edge in Elections

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Didn’t Harry give up his right to wear uniform when he relinquished all his Royal duties and moved to the United States?
Wasn’t Andy stripped of his right to wear uniform as a result of certain shenanigans?

Yes & yes.
The two Royals who have seen active service are forbidden from wearing a military uniform, while the rest of them are blinged up like Nigerian Rear-Admirals.
(Mr. Peter Phillips excepted)

rickw
rickw
September 20, 2022 11:29 am

Another reason why the mid terms are gone

Cheating every way imaginable.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2022 11:34 am

I don’t think this would work on Keith Richards.

Researchers transplant the RNA editing machine of moss into human cells (Phys.org, 19 Sep)

Rolling Stones gather no moss.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 11:35 am

Ignoring anyone and anything mentioning a PsyOp would seem to be good policy.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2022 11:36 am

Yeah, you never said “thanks!” for being rescued.

Somebody is howling on another blog about how the colonists stole Aboriginal children and barred them from schools and hospitals and poisoned the drinking water….

I’ve asked the question that, in an age when the big runs were unfenced, and most men were illiterate, how did you avoid the risk of poisoning the odd traveling drover and his mob, or the odd bullock driver and his team?

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 11:40 am

They may be male but they’re not men
….the men are calling them out

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

… in an age when the big runs were unfenced, and most men were illiterate, how did you avoid the risk of poisoning the odd traveling drover and his mob, or the odd bullock driver and his team?

Remember what happened to Trumby.
The skull & crossbones symbol would have saved him.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2022 11:46 am

Remember what happened to Trumby.
The skull & crossbones symbol would have saved him.

That Trumby?

Now Trumby was a ringer
As solid as a post
His skin was black but his heart was white and that’s what mattered most

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Unless there’s another Trumby who couldn’t read the “Poison here” sign on a waterhole & died from drinking poisoned water.

Lysander
Lysander
September 20, 2022 11:53 am

You still have a chance to make a submission to the Federal Government’s review into the 2022 Federal Election. I see the Terms of Reference include a review of Senate quotas per State/territory and lifting indigenous franchise:

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Electoral_Matters/2022federalelection/Terms_of_Reference

Razey
Razey
September 20, 2022 11:53 am
bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 11:56 am

College bans all clubs rather than follow court order to allow LGBTQ club

Good, may help pop the bubble.

Razey
Razey
September 20, 2022 11:58 am

C’mon man. Where is my uptick?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2022 11:58 am

Numbers are racist I.

Canadian teacher says 2+2=4 is white supremacy (19 Sep)

The graph Theijsmeijer posted breaks racist math down into two categories, “Overt White Supremacy” which includes using the n-word while doing math. The second is “Covert White Supremacy” which includes “2+2=4,” along with “Assuming math is neutral,” “Standardized testing,” and “Dismissing alternative algorithms.”

Numbers are racist II.

We can predict final school marks in year 11. It’s time to replace stressful exams with more meaningful education (Phys.org, 19 Sep)

Universities and TAFEs are increasingly using other methods—such as interviews or portfolios—to offer places to school leavers. In 2021, more than 25,000 NSW students applied for an early offer through the “schools recommendation scheme,” to lock in a university place before they sit their exams. This is up from 5,447 in 2014, suggesting year 12 exams may not be as necessary as we once thought.

You don’t need to know what 2+2 is so long as you believe in Gaia and Karl Marx.

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 12:00 pm

This blog is a great study on leftism.
All you have to do to become a lefty is live one lie….just one….
Denialism regarding the last couple of years in this case and next thing you know you’re acting like an activist trying to have the truth silenced and all dissent silenced. ..even upticks

But the amazing hypocrisy now being shown. ….standards
… please. …

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2022 12:00 pm

and they all seem to be males

??

johanna
johanna
September 20, 2022 12:01 pm

Zulu, it’s not about facts, never has been.

Years ago, I used to follow and comment at Andrew Montford’s excellent Bishop Hill blog, which focused on the climate scam.

Over and over again. someone would come on with a new piece of scientific evidence proving that it is a scam. I’m talking 10-15 years ago.

Hah! they cried, this will burst their bubble. Well, we all know how that went. I kept trying to explain to the honest but naive scientists that it was not about science, or facts.

Same goes for the Aboriginal stuff. The continual reproduction of factually wrong material is not about genuine debate, it is about feelz.

Political conservatives have not been able to harness ‘feelz’ to their cause, which is a sign of lousy tactics and lack of backbone. There are millions of Australians, including post war migrants and their descendants, who remember the Australia they came to and grew up in. It does not include Lebanese and African gangs, drag queens and trannies as role models, people not being able to see a GP, hospitals with patients queued up in ambulances outside, little kids being taught about weird sex at school, while Paterson and Lawson are nowhere to be seen – I could go on.

I’ve met several of the current crop of LNP politicians – bland, plausible and devoid of character or principle.

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2022 12:01 pm

dammit .. that was meant to be 2x smiley-faces

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ve met several of the current crop of LNP politicians – bland, plausible and devoid of character or principle.

+1

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2022 12:05 pm

which includes using the n-word while doing math

What? 3n + 7 = 24 is racist?

You have to wonder if the people who really want to ruin society so they can jump in as saviours sometimes wish their pawns in teaching and writing opinion columns would just shut up as they are demonstrating all too obviously that the gender and race thing is not meant to be a serious agenda, just a way to muddy waters.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 20, 2022 12:05 pm

I think Rowe’s cartoon was leftist twee shit but Moran’s hit the spot with the crowd moving on to honour death of an elderly lady while the covid insanity visited on the young is steadfastly ignored.
It doesn’t dishonour the Queen but rather shines a light on governmental elite who parade in grief for royalty but not for the victims of their own grossly inhumane policies.
Not a mask to be seen or a conscience pricked.

Razey
Razey
September 20, 2022 12:07 pm

Fkn LOL.

Proud to have moved this motion today and to speak to it tomorrow as my valedictory. I commend Drew Pavlou for his courageous commitment to the cause of bringing awareness to the issue in this country.

https://twitter.com/AdemSomyurek/status/1572023045921050631?cxt=HHwWjsDQ7bOo-dArAAAA

Lysander
Lysander
September 20, 2022 12:08 pm

Ticks are back in vogue?

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 12:08 pm

Greetings all. I just had to snork at this:

Albo might not be too happy with Italian waiters. Or Dad as he calls them.

We need a snork button.

Two winners today!

local oaf
September 20, 2022 12:11 pm

Woohoo, Upticks™ are back! 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2022 12:13 pm

Dover has caved I see. 😀
Ah well, those tickless times were short but sweet.
Meanwhile here’s a fun story.

‘Grand Theft Auto’ maker says game code stolen (19 Sep)

I suspect GTA has caused more car thefts than any other work of literature, prose or programming in history. So it’s awesomely schadenfreudish that someone has stolen their source code.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 20, 2022 12:13 pm

I bet that wanker likes the racist numbers going into the bank account.

P
P
September 20, 2022 12:14 pm

It’s a good day. Ticks are back.

John H.
John H.
September 20, 2022 12:15 pm

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupiditysays:
September 20, 2022 at 12:03 pm
I’ve met several of the current crop of LNP politicians – bland, plausible and devoid of character or principle.

Suppose I were an idiot and a member of Congress, but I repeat myself.

Twain

Razey
Razey
September 20, 2022 12:15 pm

I’m ticking everything. I like ticks.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 12:16 pm

struth says:
September 20, 2022 at 12:00 pm
This blog is a great study on leftism.
All you have to do to become a lefty is live one lie….just one….

Given there are no perfect people other than arguably Jesus Christ; does that mean everyone is a leftist now?

bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 12:16 pm

I suspect GTA has caused more car thefts than any other work of literature, prose or programming in history

Like westerns did for bank robberies in the past, Lol!

P
P
September 20, 2022 12:18 pm
Razey
Razey
September 20, 2022 12:18 pm
Lysander
Lysander
September 20, 2022 12:19 pm

This blog is a great study on leftism.
All you have to do to become a lefty is live one lie….just one….

What utter and absolute tosh. I believe in free, unfettered speech along with a whole bunch of other socially conservative views. I believe in minimising government and making it MUCH smaller. Most that post here are similar.

But, cos some here were forced to get the jibby jab, they’re leftist. #FacePalm

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 20, 2022 12:19 pm

I think Cleese says his long career was necessary due to the financial impact of several divorces!

Anchor What
Anchor What
September 20, 2022 12:20 pm

Connie Booth looked FF as well in that episode where she had friends/rellies coming to stay.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 12:22 pm

BoN, have to agree-ish with your schadenfreude, on general principle of the motive formation of criminal acts being socially taught.
I think the decline of murders and other crimes from 1990 on is most likely attributable to the rise in computer gaming including GTA. Every social forces account I have seen seems to ignore this innovative arena of energetic social competition for young males that took them out of public spaces for large chunks of their free time.
The media and leftists created the school shooters by offering rewards and models which counter this trend.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 12:25 pm

But, cos some here were forced to get the jibby jab, they’re leftist. #FacePalm

Yes. Being right is a burden that some are really striving to avoid.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 20, 2022 12:26 pm

Wasn’t Andy stripped of his right to wear uniform as a result of certain shenanigans?

Yes & yes.

Not that simple.

Andy is allowed to wear his uniform at whatever rank he held when he stopped serving in the RN, not with the added stripe he got every birthday.

Ditto Harry, he can wear the uniform of the regiment he served in at the rank he held when he resigned his commission, not the uniform of Captain-General of the Royal Marines he was entitled to until Megxit.

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 12:28 pm

WTF has not living s lie got to do with being perfect dot.
You’re battling your conscience now dot….not me.
It sticks out like dog’s balls.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 20, 2022 12:31 pm

Bespoke – I have Grim Dawn going in the background, a fun hack ‘n’ slash.

One Christmas Day was visiting Dad. Bro was also there with his family, so when my nephews were trying out one of the GTAs which they’d got for Christmas I tried it also. It was so so, I stole a tractor and a bus at different times and drove them sedately around LA. Not exactly your go-to getaway vehicles. The really interesting thing was to read news stories in later years where the perps were using the same tricks to carjack cars. The game is education, but not quite the sort I’d prefer. 😀

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2022 12:33 pm

Ticks are back in vogue?

The classics never go out of style.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2022 12:35 pm

Fawlty Towers is essential viewing for anybody who works in hospitality.
It’s stress relief to watch someone treating the general public as they deserve to be treated.

Erm…ever considered that you might have ended up in the wrong line of work, Sal?

😀

rickw
rickw
September 20, 2022 12:37 pm

Bestow upticks on me!! 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 12:37 pm

The spokesman for No Cows Australia:

This blog is a great study on leftism.

Yes it is.

In particular, the peacocking of frustrated totalitarians whose plans to Lead The People were blown apart by adherence to crank websites and a string of failed cult leaders, and who absolutely refuse to believe that not enough people acceded to demands – yes, demands – that they follow the One True Path.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 12:38 pm

Blog management suspends upticks.

‘You have caved.’

Blog management restores upticks.

‘You have caved.’

rickw
rickw
September 20, 2022 12:39 pm

Now that the universe is back in balance, upticks restored, need to go and do some work!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 20, 2022 12:40 pm

Ok, not going to Canberra then, but rather Jerrabomberra in NSW. On a bus driven by a formidable lady bus driver who told everyone not to use their mobile phone on speaker before we left.

Just as well we got out of Sydney. It is becoming a city of cokeheads:

Barely a day goes by in the courts of Sydney’s glitzy eastern suburbs where a professional and otherwise law-abiding citizen is not reprimanded for dealing or dabbling in cocaine.
And new statistics confirm what magistrates have repeatedly remarked upon – the issue is only worsening.

According to the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research (BOSCAR), incidents of both cocaine dealing or trafficking in the local government area (LGA) of Waverley rose 45 per cent in the six months to June 2022.

In the same period, cocaine possession charges there grew 20 per cent.

Over the past five years, cocaine dealing in the area, which takes in Bondi and its surrounds, has risen by a steady 20 per cent.

Increasing cocaine offences in Waverley stands in contrast to its nearby LGAs of Woollahra and Randwick, where cocaine dealing offences mostly flatlined in the six months to June.

Cocaine possession crept up slightly in the former and dropped by 16 per cent in the latter.

The variation in figures among close suburbs was interesting to Associate Professor of Criminology at the University of Newcastle, Dr Xanthé Mallett.

She suspected it was a combination of targeted policing and a higher demand among Waverley’s suburbs.

As for the notable spike in the past six months, Dr Mallet said drug dealing was returning to its pre-Covid levels.

“I think it’ll be a surprise to people how many people are using cocaine in those suburbs in Sydney,” she said.

“You’ve got to remember, as well, that coke is very expensive. All of it is imported. And wealthy suburbs are really the ones that can support these habits”.

“These rich individuals are looking for ways to kind of relax and have fun. Certainly, I’m not advocating for it, but it is such an expensive drug, so it’s natural to get this spike in the communities where it can be afforded”.

Dr Mallet said driving down cocaine use in these suburbs was difficult while many people busted for possession were getting more lenient sentences than users of other drugs, such as ice.

“It’s so embedded in the culture of these suburbs and then there’s not really any negative consequences of getting caught a lot of the time,” she said.

In an Australian-first, the ACT government recently announced it will decriminalise the possession of small amounts of illicit drugs, including cocaine. It will issue fines instead of criminal charges, claiming current laws do not work.

Asked if NSW should follow suit, Dr Mallet said she was not sure that was the answer.

“You want to break down the supply networks, but equally, if somebody is caught with an illicit substance, there’s disincentive if they know they’re not going to receive a conviction,” she said. “Also, the demand is so high that as soon as you interrupt one network, another will fill its place.”

Daily Tele

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 12:40 pm

No Lysander.
It’s not getting the jab that makes them act like leftists.
Mater got the jab but he isn’t living a lie about it.
But many are.
Their reasoning becomes skewed and emotion takes over.
They are living a lie regarding whst has happened.
Like JC and Sancho and many others.
And from that it progresses to wanting opposition thought…the truth, banned and even upticks supporting it gone.
Fascinating to watch the fall.
Scary too.

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 12:43 pm

You’re just bitter and scared of individuality, kd.
You lash out at non conformity.
As an ec vicplod we should expect that.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 20, 2022 12:54 pm

Remember, every time you tick Sancho an angel punches a unicorn in the face with a kitten.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 12:57 pm

You’re just bitter and scared of individuality, kd.

To quote the great Mike Nolan – ‘Yeah nah nah yeah nah nah yeah nah.’

This, coming from a pantless* screecher aggrieved at people making their own personal decisions with the interests of their own families at the forefront. Which, if you think about it, is individuality.

*Fictional, on a number of levels.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 1:07 pm

Lysander says:
September 20, 2022 at 12:19 pm
This blog is a great study on leftism.
All you have to do to become a lefty is live one lie….just one….
What utter and absolute tosh. I believe in free, unfettered speech along with a whole bunch of other socially conservative views. I believe in minimising government and making it MUCH smaller. Most that post here are similar.

But, cos some here were forced to get the jibby jab, they’re leftist. #FacePalm

I know right.

How to win friends and convince people, if you’re trippin’ balls.

struth hasn’t tried to make a substantive argument yet against my position.

bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 1:13 pm

St ruth has proven he will never accept any circumstance so earnest explanationsfail every time.
Not worth the time .

Rabz
September 20, 2022 1:20 pm

Connie Booth looked FF as well in that episode where she had friends/rellies coming to stay.

Prompting Basil to inadvertently refer to the establishment as “Fawlty Titties”.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Not that simple.

Thank you Diogenes.
My initial information was from ABCTV experts.
(I should have just asked a random neighbour, or perhaps my dog)
I’ve now updated my facts in line with your advice.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Erm…ever considered that you might have ended up in the wrong line of work, Sal?

Many times Roger, many times.
However if I’d not done hard time in hospitality, I’d not be able to fully appreciate Fawlty Towers.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 1:25 pm

struth I am 100% behind everything you do in being the best struth you can be.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 20, 2022 1:26 pm

Sal,
My information came from a royal ‘expert’ interview on nine.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2022 1:29 pm

It usually takes me more than three weeks to prepare a good impromptu speech.

– Mark Twain

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

My information came from a royal ‘expert’ interview on nine.

Oops, would that be the same nine that identified the UK PM as “prolly some sorta minor royal, dunno who it is, we can’t be expected to know who these people are

Still more reliable than my source, which had just told me that King Chilla was attired in Field Marshal’s uniform & was carrying a Field Marshal’s baton, when the TV was showing him in R.A.F. uniform & AFAICS he was carrying nothing more than a sword & one helluva emotional burden.

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2022 1:32 pm

Four guys meet in hell. A Bodybuilder, a Muslim, a Buddhist monk, and an Australian.

Satan comes over, whip in hand, and says “Those who endure 10 whiplashes can go to Heaven, the rest will stay here in Hell!”

The Australian glances at the bodybuilder and is about to argue when Satan interrupts him “Everyone can choose 1 thing to place at your back and protect you from the whiplashes. Let’s start”.

The bodybuilder steps up, with full conviction, he chooses a large and heavy metal shield to protect his back. Then, Satan starts with the whiplashes…

1… 2… and the shield breaks apart. The 3rd never came!

The bodybuilder screamed “Please NO, I give up!”

The Muslim steps forward this time. With a smug face, he asks for the physical manifestation of his faith to protect his back. He had done lots of terrible things, but it was all in the name of faith and it would protect him now.

1… 2… 3… and his faith began to waver… 4… 5… 6… and the sound of something breaking could be heard.

Before there was a 7th, he cries out pathetically “Stop, stop, stop. Please stop!!”

Here comes the Buddhist monks turn. He asks for no protection, for pain is in the mind, he will hide behind nothing, and his body would endure any torment!

1… 2… 3… and he grits his teeth… 4… 5… 6… tears could be seen in his eyes… 7… 8… 9… 10…

There is snot coming out of his nose and his back is badly mutilated. But he made it.

Now it’s the Australian’s turn. He is asked, by Satan, what does he choose to protect his back. The Australian ponders for a little while, and then calmly says “The monk”.

Pogria
Pogria
September 20, 2022 1:35 pm

I like these Ticks.
I still have the video!

bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 1:39 pm

being the best struth you can be.

Auditioning for a Gillete ad?

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 1:42 pm

Tim.

As I said, I lost the post last night dealing with Uncle Fester torturing the snowfall chart. This will be brief.

Fester put up a chart indicating snowfall for particular regions going back to 1970, but (conveniently) used the final 25 years. He suggested to Fatboy that there had been no change in snow pattern over that period. Here’s the problem, which I believe is a dishonest misuse of the chart. Fester reckoned that for last 25 years of the 50 year chart, snowfall had flat-lined. It most certainly had flat-lined at the lower end of the of the chart scale. It flat-lined well below first 25 year drop and appears to have remained that way. To ignore that is either willfully dishonest or just simply stupid. You can ask Fester which option he’d accept as a characterization of this new abortion of his. He’s Titius’ed 3.10 me so he won’t answer.

This is like owning a stock for 10 years. In the first 5 years the stock averages 100 bucks a share and then in the remaining 5 years it averages 50 bucks. Using Fester’s logic the stockholder should be happy the stock has only flat-lined in the past 5 years. The Fuck!

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 1:45 pm

Struphid is the site’s resident Karen.

I’ve never would have believed someone could be so outrageously outraged now going on for 3 years.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 1:47 pm

Can anyone tell me how to do say multiple ticks as I want to try and get Struphid (Cat’s Karen) up to 100 and thereby hit a record.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

I’ve never would have believed someone could be so outrageously outraged now going on for 3 years.

So speaketh one who carries petty grudges for much longer than 3 years.

Jock
Jock
September 20, 2022 1:51 pm

This used to be a sitecthat discussed economics and finance as well as other stuff. Off point for most of you, but I was talking to a friend about Hecs. I have no children currently in university, but in the conversation it occurred to us that overall hecs debts are going to go up by a rate of inflation higher than interest rates. If inflation continues each quarter then hec debts will compound higher than current interest rates. Originally the scheme cushioned debtors against the real world by only charging inflation which is normally less than interest rates. Just wondering if those in academia have any thoughts. I might have this wrong.

duncanm
duncanm
September 20, 2022 1:52 pm
JC
JC
September 20, 2022 1:52 pm

Drills

Calm down until Friday.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Just wondering if those in academia have any thoughts.

Why only the thoughts of those in academia?

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 1:54 pm

I’ve never would have believed someone could be so outrageously outraged now going on for 3 years.

Pfft. Your credulity has met numbers and monty, johanna and dot, the greens and PM Trumble’s ex-Liberal voters, and it pretends to be impressed by just 3 years of outrage?

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 2:02 pm

Give this “personal decision” crap a break, KD.
It’s lame and so 2020.
It doesn’t wash.
Sancho reckons all you have to worry about is yourself and your family and fuck everyone else.
Besides the sheer unethical evil that stance is…….my point all along is how are you and your family going to be going after submission to tyrants?
Without a democratic country, without freedom?
Dick heads.

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 2:05 pm

Jock….the economy is downstream from surrendering to tyranny.

MatrixTransform
September 20, 2022 2:05 pm

overall hecs debts are going to go up by a rate of inflation higher than interest rates

SBS

3.9 per cent in 2022
damn. my missus still owes about $40k

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 2:06 pm

Give this “personal decision” crap a break, KD.

Stop telling me what to do, you totalitarian Karenstruth.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 2:06 pm

how are you and your family going to be going after submission to tyrants?

Aren’t you working for Big Corporate now?

Johnny Rotten
September 20, 2022 2:18 pm

Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been.

– Mark Twain

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 2:20 pm

dot.
Why was your job more important than the millions of other’s who stood firm against the tyranny?
Or the three in tourism and entertainment I lost?

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 2:20 pm

Wrinkles should merely indicate where smiles have been. And if not I demand to see the Manager.

– Mark ‘Karen’ Twain

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 2:22 pm

Submission? I wrestled for four months longer than most players.

The state is an implacable opponent with unlimited resources.

bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 2:24 pm

Thor thunder and love.
Has some funny self debasing bits.
6/10

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 2:25 pm

Why was your job more important than the millions of other’s who stood firm against the tyranny?

1. I didn’t cause them to be unfree, let alone anyone.
2. Even if my resistance was token, then it only took others to do the same and it would be over.
3. Millions lost their jobs because of “jabs”? Really?
4. Being a self reliant adult is important if you want to be free.

Restating your sentence: Why is your own survival more important than…

Which is a terribly collectivist position the authoritarians believe.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 20, 2022 2:27 pm

JCsays:
September 20, 2022 at 1:42 pm

The analogy doesn’t work JC. BoN was never claiming that snow cover had never fallen (analogous to claiming that the stock price now is satisfactory to what it was at purchase), he was only saying that it hasn’t declined for the last 25 years (analogous to saying that the stock price hasn’t changed in X period).
BoN was never trying to make a point about what happened in the past, his point is about what’s happening now.
Things change. What was happening in the 1970’s isn’t necessarily what’s happening now. The question is how much data do we need to be able to tell that we’re in a changed situation.
As an analogy, when Mark Waugh was dropped from the Australian test team, his batting average was a very healthy 41.81. But he’d averaged only about 20 in his last two series. The selectors felt that two series was enough to make the call that things had changed from his heyday. Should they have kept him in? If so, for how long?
If BoN’s chart had been for 125 years, and had a drastic fall in the first 25 years and then 100 years of flatlining, would you deny that there was now a trend of flatlining?
What about 75 years with 50 years of flatlining?
Conversely if it had been a chart for 30 years with the last 5 years being flatlining I wouldn’t (and I expect BoN wouldn’t) claim that there is now a trend of flatlining.
The only question is whether 25 years is long enough to raise a serious argument that things have changed since the period of falling that occurred from the early 1970’s to the late 1990’s.
Climate alarmists used to assert that 15 or 17 years was long enough for a trend, and the IPCC has now walked that back to a claim of 30 years. 25 years doesn’t prima facie seem unreasonable unless there are grounds for saying that all those prior and current estimates are badly wrong.
If you’ve got proper scientific or statistical grounds for saying that 25 years isn’t long enough, feel free to raise them.
But if you haven’t, then even if you somehow feel that 25 years isn’t enough, you’re at liberty to disagree with BoN but that’s hardly grounds for launching into a trade of insults against him just because he’s implicitly asserted that 25 years is long enough.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
September 20, 2022 2:30 pm

Or Dad as he calls them.
Uptick! ?

I really miss the quick convenience of clicking on a thumbs up.

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 2:33 pm

There is right and wrong.
If all individuals choose to do the right thing. …. to the excuse mongers this is no different from tyrannical collectivism

This clutching at straws thing
…..FMD.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 2:34 pm

Franxsays:

September 20, 2022 at 10:57 am

I think you may … etcetera … etcetera

Sure.

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 2:36 pm

Fact

If you submitted you empowered tyrants.
The end

Wrong side of history sport ,. ..

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Crikey struth, what would you have had us all do?
The world is full of people who got jabbed – but only under duress when it was a choice of jab or lose their livelihood.
That group is the most embittered of all. Cultivate them, they’re your strongest allies.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 2:40 pm

Fact

If you submitted you empowered tyrants.
The end

Gun laws.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 2:41 pm

If you submitted you empowered tyrants.

No. I was a thorn in their side.

That group is the most embittered of all.

Very true. I’m not a superannuated poser.

I think I should have lied, but I did my research, no real side effects from Novavax. I was disappointed some testing used fetal cell lines, but that was after I told work of my intentions.

cohenite
September 20, 2022 2:42 pm

Great conversation with Dave Cochran on 2SM this arvo about Klaus 100 chins Schwab and the WEF. After my devastating call Dave got on Malcolm Roberts who really laid the boot in. Interestingly, Scomo attended a WEF meeting in Jan 2022 before he was kicked out and endorsed all their fucking agendas.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2022 2:42 pm

Just wondering if those in academia have any thoughts.

BIRCH THEM!!!

(I am not actually in hallowed groves of academe, but a right birching is a bloody good response in any situation.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 2:49 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

September 20, 2022 at 12:54 pm

Remember, every time you tick Sancho an angel punches a unicorn in the face with a kitten.

No angel involved.
I do it myself.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 2:49 pm

I think Cleese says his long career was necessary due to the financial impact of several divorces!

Palin notes him being picked up in a Rolls with a number of different lady friends. Might have something to do with it.

bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 2:49 pm

superannuated poser.

Not unlike martha’s vineyard residents.

Razey
Razey
September 20, 2022 2:50 pm

Anyone who got the clot shots pretty much fell for government propaganda and coercion, not that it’s all their fault with the disgusting compliance of a corrupt & neutered media industrial complex.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 2:52 pm

Hi Chris,

I am still outrageously outraged, but I don’t let it affect my blood pressure.

That’s what work is for.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 2:52 pm

That group is the most embittered of all.

Yes they are.

Cultivate them, they’re your strongest allies.

Too late. That extremely large group and anyone within earshot have been called traitorous cocksmokers, and had death wished upon them by the aforementioned (and failed) Karenstruth dictators for far too long.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 2:53 pm

Razey

I didn’t get a “clot shot”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 2:55 pm

Fawlty Towers is essential viewing for anybody who works in hospitality.
It’s stress relief to watch someone treating the general public as they deserve to be treated.
Erm…ever considered that you might have ended up in the wrong line of work, Sal?

Till you have dealt with the public you can’t really comment. At Uni I had a job at an inflatable building at the casino (now demolished) stopping the mouth breathers from opening the alarmed and pressurised doors. I think I lasted two days.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 2:57 pm

I did meet John Michael “Hollywood” Howson though.

slackster
slackster
September 20, 2022 2:59 pm

Very interesting study I came across from before the vaccine was launched. Basically they were deciding which Propaganda/manipulation they were going to push on the public to convince them into taking the vaxx. See how many you recognise. Its all planned.

This study tests different messages about vaccinating against COVID-19 once the vaccine becomes available. Participants are randomized to 1 of 12 arms, with one control arm and one baseline arm. We will compare the reported willingness to get a COVID-19 vaccine at 3 and 6 months of it becoming available between the 10 intervention arms to the 2 control arms.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04460703

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 2:59 pm

St Ruth at 2:02.

Sancho reckons all you have to worry about is yourself and your family and fuck everyone else.

I think the correct quote is …
“Sancho reckons all you have to worry about is yourself and your family and fuck St Ruth everyone else”.

Razey
Razey
September 20, 2022 3:01 pm

Dotsays:
September 20, 2022 at 2:53 pm
Razey

I didn’t get a “clot shot”.

Yes you did. All the covid vax’s list clots as a side affect. Therefore, I call it a clot shot.

Next.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 3:01 pm

struthsays:

September 20, 2022 at 2:20 pm

dot.
Why was your job more important than the millions of other’s who stood firm against the tyranny?
Or the three in tourism and entertainment I lost?

And the boat.
Don’t forget the boat.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 20, 2022 3:05 pm

The words stick in my throat but Sal at 2:37 is right.
People like St Ruth have alienated a vast cohort in society who are basically against mandates.
But are also against being screeched at by a girly-man failed troubadour.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 20, 2022 3:06 pm

Say Her Name
Some victims are more equal than others.

Worth a read from The American Mind

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2022 3:08 pm

End of fuel excise discount shouldn’t cause immediate petrol price spike, Treasurer says

“Industry estimates that there [will] be more than 700 million litres of lower excise fuel in the system when the fuel excise is reintroduced.

“This is 700 million reasons why the price should not shoot up by the full 23 cents on the night that the excise relief ends.”

He’s right, of course.
Prices should not shoot up by the full 23 cents on the night that the excise relief ends.

But they might…

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 3:08 pm

Fucking bullshit.
This small world outlook of alot of Australians is just so typical.

I had to get jabbed to save my own little world.
In doing so you fucked your nation.
That’ll fuck your own little world even worse .
Conservative understanding 101

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

The words stick in my throat but Sal at 2:37 is right.

Why does it stick in your throat?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 20, 2022 3:14 pm

The world is full of people who got jabbed – but only under duress when it was a choice of jab or lose their livelihood.

The world is probably somewhat fuller of people who got jabbed because they believed they were protecting themselves and their loved ones – and many probably also thought they were doing the right thing and moving Australia towards herd immunity.

Not everyone was properly informed by Trusted CHO’s, or Trusted Bloggers.

bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 3:18 pm

St ruth choosing who goes left and who goes right after disembarking the train.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:21 pm

Tim

No analogy works, period. However mine is closer to the mark than yours and the reason is Fester’s 25 year slot was a cherry pick and deliberately used to be misleading.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:28 pm

bespoke says:
September 20, 2022 at 3:18 pm

St ruth choosing who goes left and who goes right after disembarking the train.

Imagine what the officious little fatmouth would be like wearing an SS uniform. Fellow Australians would be pleading to be shot en masse having the former Baker’s Delight driver around. Certain images are just nightmare scenarios.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

Imagine what the officious little fatmouth would be like wearing an SS uniform.

Struth is the opposite of the SS – he’s the resistance.
At least get that part right – if you get nothing else right.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:31 pm

Finally pulled the trigger and replaced Wifey’s mini today. It’s a surprisingly quick turnaround too, delivery is expected in August next year! What a joke. I think minis are made in the UK and the UK is possibly a little better off than say Germany with the energy situation.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:32 pm

Struth is the opposite of the SS – he’s the resistance.

Yea. He’s in hiding at the moment.

calli
calli
September 20, 2022 3:33 pm

Yay! I’m allowed to uptick! I felt bereft of my weighty opinion-fu.

I shall use my powers with honesty and discretion.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:34 pm

Driller, you silly galoot, The Cat’s Karen is an obese keyboard worrier. The only resistance you’d get from that useless fat fuck is standing up and doing 10 minutes of exercise…. a week.

Hold it all back until Friday.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

…you silly galoot, The Cat’s Karen is an obese keyboard worrier. The only resistance you’d get from that useless fat fuck

The modified & civil behaviour is going as expected.

local oaf
September 20, 2022 3:37 pm

not that it’s all their fault with the disgusting compliance of a corrupt & neutered media industrial complex.

Not sure if compliance is the right word for our media – I reckon they were enthusiastic proponents of the “vaccines” right from the start.
To help them along, Morrison gave them tens of millions of dollars of our tax dollars to encourage them to vilify us and terrorise us into submission.

The average journalist is way more evil than the average politician. A lot of pollies are just greedy self serving parasites, most journalists want to improve the world – by eliminating most of us!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2022 3:37 pm

I dialled into the Fortescue conference call today.
The line wasn’t great & I missed Twiggy having a crack at Musk re hydrogen.

cohenite
September 20, 2022 3:39 pm

No analogy works, period. However mine is closer to the mark than yours and the reason is Fester’s 25 year slot was a cherry pick and deliberately used to be misleading.

I’ve told you head prefect, there is no decline in snow. I defer to you about shorting, now defer to your better, me, about AGW.

struth
struth
September 20, 2022 3:41 pm

Hilarious.
I’ve alienated people, sancho?
The unvaxxed know who was alienated.
Note the sneerers like to run with the notion I’m trying to start a rebellion. ….trying to get people to follow me.
This line they use when they have no argument.
So they use it often.
I am simply stating what is the correct course of action in these scenarios which have happened before in history and can and have been learned from.
Fucking funny…..if I was trying to win people over to a cause Iwouldn’t want most of the useless sheeple here.
Most of you will be choo chooing out of here soon anyway.
Was the job or the business worth that?
I am a happy man as I stood my ground and did not cave.
And a beautiful young woman hugged me and cried because she nearly caved in but didn’t thanks to my open opposition to the jab.
She now knows she dodged a bullet.
It’s all turning the unjabbed’s way.
But we won’t forget the sickening submission of our fellow countrymen.
As if I’m trying to win people over to my side…..here of all places
That’s how teenage girls act while counting the upticks.
Soon a big unjabbed only live music party night .

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:41 pm

The modified & civil behaviour is going as expected.

Has to operate both ways, Drillsie. It’s not a one way street. Box up your energy until Friday and then have undo the valve.
No more talking about each other.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:46 pm

I’ve told you head prefect, there is no decline in snow. I defer to you about shorting, now defer to your better, me, about AGW.

Cronkite, the decline in snowfall that I’m referring to was shown on Uncle Fester’s link. There was a marked decline for the first 25 years of his chart and subsequently leveling off in the proceeding 25 years. That’s what we’re referring to so please stay on topic. I don’t care if there hasn’t been a decline globally or not. Unless you’re skiing, snow in a city turns to crap anyway so personally I’d be happy to never see another flake again – especially in NYC.

calli
calli
September 20, 2022 3:50 pm

Bother. Everyone is allowed to uptick.

I thought I was … special. *sigh*

In this hotel they have waiter “robots”, a bit R2D2 but they carry hot plates to the tables (clearly some sort of tracking system). They have sensors to stop them running into people. Some are formal – dinner suits, others are painted with open neck shirts.

No masks. 😀

cohenite
September 20, 2022 3:51 pm

Who the fuck is uncle fester; between upticks and nicknames this joint is like drag-queen arvo in Oxford Street in high summer.

bespoke
bespoke
September 20, 2022 3:54 pm

he’s the resistance

As in Antifa believing are the resistance, sure.

Or the clown dressed in skins at the capital, sure.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 20, 2022 3:54 pm

Calli

In this hotel they have waiter “robots”, a bit R2D2 but they carry hot plates to the tables (clearly some sort of tracking system). They have sensors to stop them running into people. Some are formal – dinner suits, others are painted with open neck shirts.

Saw something similar at the Katoomba RSL recently, but more basic, with only four open shelves.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 3:55 pm

Most of you will be choo chooing out of here soon anyway

Unhinged tripe, you were too cowardly to take my bet 10k of middling quality Australian sterling silver coins.

The offer is still open you coward.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 20, 2022 3:55 pm

Anyone who got the clot shots pretty much fell for government propaganda

No.

Many knew there were risks but, like grown ups, weighed the risks to make decisions.

In my case I only got the shots when my brother, who is mentally disabled and in decline after the recent passing of our mother, had to be moved to care. I considered that to be able to visit him and try to what extent I might to ease his transition to his new situation that I was prepared to risk the vaccine.

There was no secret battalion of freedom fighters with names like L’araignee and La Dague ready to whisk him away to an undisclosed location where his medical and psychological needs would be met, no ninjas wrapped in shadow dripping poisons down along a thread from the ceiling to poison evil men in their sleep then vanishing in the time it takes for light to leave a candle and reach the wall, and not even a crumpled old gumshoe peering through windows with his vintage polaroid waiting to snap compromising pictures of villainous officials and their steamy mistresses.

It was from first to last an individual decision. I asked no one to make the decision for me or to endorse it. I told no one what they had to do, but happily told them what I decided and why. It was lesson, but I set no tests. Because like me they would have to live with their decision too.

And there would have been absolutely no point in standing on a hill with an upturned saucepan on my head, waving the flag on one hand and spinning like a drunk compass needle at a magnet convention pointing at people and screeching “Traitor!”, “Communist!”, “Lackey of the tyrannical regime!”

There are people who think the only battle that could be fought was the one where you refused to get the shots and to hell with everything else in your and yours’ life. How did that work out? And if they think that it would have worked if everybody had done it reminds me of the peculiar psephological fixation poor old Faulty had. If you imagine having the power to make everyone follow your plan when voting then why require they do the complicated one? Why not just get them to vote for the people you wanted in?

The tin pot demagogues, steeped in their own overblown rhetoric remained oblivious to how ridiculous they appeared. Their time has gone and they are reduced to playing crackling old records or their speeches – all that is left of their glory days.

No. The battle to be had is to make sure politicians and bureaucrats learn they best not try that again. We collect information, we expose the abuses of authority, and we remind people.

Oh, and calling people leftists because they did not cleave to your doctrine like brown on shit is frankly retarded. Unconditional obedience to orthodoxy is the leftist default. Calling other people lefties does not make you any less totalitarian.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 3:59 pm

Cronkite

Uncle Fester is an international man of mystery.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 20, 2022 4:00 pm

The line wasn’t great & I missed Twiggy having a crack at Musk re hydrogen.

LOL. Musk knows some physics and is a working rocket engineer. Twiggy is merely a fool.
Rocket engineers hate using hydrogen. See the leaks with NASA’s SLS. Nobody is going to build an oxygen/ammonia rocket anytime soon again, either (X-15). If you want to handle hydrogen use a backbone of carbon atoms. Even one makes things a lot easier.

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2022 4:00 pm

Dribbler Sheridan actually has a good piece in today’s Oz about how he, despite being a republican at heart, would never vote for a republic….

“”I’ve been a republican all my life and voted Yes in the 1999 referendum. I am still a theoretical republican but now find myself in that paradoxical category: republicans for a constitutional monarchy. I would vote No to any republican referendum now. It’s inconceivable, in this time of peak woke madness, that any change to the Constitution could produce something as stable and good as we have now. My monarchism is entirely pragmatic.“”

Well said Greg Sheridan, I don’t often praise your pieces. I think Sheridan speaks for many of us. I too voted “yes” in 1999. As for any future referendum, I’ll be voting NO. Why? Well, there are probably a few reasons why I’ll be voting NO but as Sheridan writes, we live in a time of “peak woke madness” and I would add that we live in a time when we are now lorded over by an entitled coterie of sneering scum who like to dictate to us, lecture us, insult us, ridicule us, and smear us. You all, of course, must know the scum I’m referring to, the sneering and patronising scum that infest our political parties, the scum that infest their ABC, names such as Virginia Trioli, Laura Shingles, Wendy Harmer and then there’s all the rest…the scum that infest Nine Media, The Malcolm Guardian, Channel Ten, social media sewers and the two resident rodents of Mosman, aka the King and Queen of hypocrisy, Pirate Man and his grotesque cane toad wife.

Given the dignity, history and majesty we have witnessed over the last ten days, culminating in the funeral service last night, I’ll take the monarchy any day. They do less damage to us that the aforementioned scum and they provide us with magnificent pomp and pageantry.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:01 pm

Funny thing happened while buying the wheels. The salesman asked if I wanted to know about the emissions. I told him no as I didn’t give a shit.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 20, 2022 4:01 pm

JCsays:
September 20, 2022 at 3:21 pm
Tim

No analogy works, period. However mine is closer to the mark than yours and the reason is Fester’s 25 year slot was a cherry pick and deliberately used to be misleading.

No, your analogy is totally bogus in this context. You’ve failed to explain why a comment about a specific period of time is somehow an invalid comment about that period of time just because it doesn’t relate to an earlier period of time.

And BoN’s assertion isn’t “misleading” unless there’s sound scientific or statistical grounds for saying that 25 years is too short a time to establish a trend.
And once again you’ve failed to provide any such grounds.
I’ll ask again:
If BoN’s charts had shown 125 years, 25 of decline and then the last 100 of flatlining, would you deny that there’s a flatlining trend?
What about 75, with 25 of decline and then the last 50 of flatlining?
Assuming you’d be prepared to contemplate the possibility that charts like that indicated a likely trend, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for asserting that 25 years is too short to indicate a trend?

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 4:02 pm

Fine.

I have about 5k of silver and 3k of gold.

It can be put up in escrow with a trusted blogger. I will pay the difference in cash if I lose.

I want to be paid in silver.

calli
calli
September 20, 2022 4:04 pm

Saw something similar at the Katoomba RSL

Oh. Trust me to be behind the times.

Or….for all you know I am at the Katoomba RSL and cunningly faking a European trip.

And speaking of comparisons, on our way here visited a cave system that put Jenolan in the shade. Absolutely breath-taking in complexity and variety of formations. For the Tolkien fans – there was, at one point, a single lane bridge over a chasm. We passed. But as we did a bevy of schoolchildren raced along a lower pathway, chattering like birds. “Here come the hobbits!”.

I just couldn’t help myself.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 4:04 pm

No. The battle to be had is to make sure politicians and bureaucrats learn they best not try that again. We collect information, we expose the abuses of authority, and we remind people.

Very well said.

The Public Health Acts need to be repealed, as do the recent changes to anti discrimination laws.

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2022 4:05 pm

Very interesting study I came across from before the vaccine was launched. Basically they were deciding which Propaganda/manipulation they were going to push on the public to convince them into taking the vaxx. See how many you recognise. Its all planned.

Slackstar, I also came across info some time ago regarding consultation in UK with psychologists on best way to induce people to accept the vaccines. It certainly was all planned. Governments had decided on the primary attack on the virus via vaccines, they were outfoxed by Big Pharma into agreeing by contract to bar all possible treatments, and the rest is history.

What I find most disturbing is the complete surrender by Australians to the government line. All evidence suggests that we were the most naive, stupid, compliant – whatever you like to call it – than any other nation. Australians are still wearing those stupid masks, and will probably continue to do so even though the state governments are cancelling the mandate in public transport. Good grief – what do they think about the millions of Britons in public spaces around Her Majesty’s funeral all markless???? They are probably too stupid to have noticed. I did not hear even one TV commentator mention it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2022 4:06 pm

there was, at one point, a single lane bridge over a chasm.

You shall not pass !

Vicki
Vicki
September 20, 2022 4:06 pm

markless????

They should have read “markless”, of course.

calli
calli
September 20, 2022 4:07 pm

I told him no as I didn’t give a shit.

*me too*

But not so colourfully.

They look at you as if you’ve just dispatched a puppy with a shovel.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 4:07 pm

Lode at 3.55:

Excellent comment. Tinpot demagogues indeed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 20, 2022 4:08 pm

Most of you will be choo chooing out of here soon anyway.

Six months and ten days, to 36 months and ten days.

Right Karenstruth?

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 4:10 pm

In doing so you fucked your nation.

Yeah right.

It was me.

It wasn’t the media, the joke Liberal Party, Gillard or Swan, anti development greens or power grabbing cops or Attorneys General.

It wasn’t a sustained attack on common law and post WWII civil rights. It wasn’t an ever increasing burden of taxes and regulation.

It was me getting vaccinated against my will after living a very restricted lifestyle under state and Federal law for months on end, then with an ultimatum to get vaccinated or become destitute by a former boss who abused his power.

I am so sorry I blamed everyone else.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 4:12 pm

LOL. Musk knows some physics and is a working rocket engineer. Twiggy is merely a fool.

Sounds like Twiggy is drinking his own bathwater. But as ftb notes,he is using (primarily) his own cash this time. Minority shareholders just along for the ride.

Dot
Dot
September 20, 2022 4:12 pm

They look at you as if you’ve just dispatched a puppy with a shovel.

It gets easier with time.

calli
calli
September 20, 2022 4:12 pm

There was a little train that ran us around two kilometres into the caves.

Seats for two, not buckets.

Though I couldn’t resist squeaking “I love you Indy” into the Beloved’s ear as we lurched around a bend on the extremely narrow gauge.

….And just where has Wolfman been?

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2022 4:13 pm

“Mother Lodesays:
September 20, 2022 at 3:55 pm”

I’m glad the upticks are back to I could give your comment one.

Thank you.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:15 pm

No, your analogy is totally bogus in this context.

Sure, all analogies are essentially “bogus” however my analogy was less bogus than yours.

You’ve failed to explain why a comment about a specific period of time is somehow an invalid comment about that period of time just because it doesn’t relate to an earlier period of time.

I explained it four times. Asserting that the last 25 years has flat-lined without offering context in that the preceding 25 showed a drop and there was no recovery after that is 100% misleading.

And BoN’s assertion isn’t “misleading” unless there’s sound scientific or statistical grounds for saying that 25 years is too short a time to establish a trend.

The statistical reason that makes Fester’s 25 year claim misleading is that it flat-lined at the lows without any recovery

And once again you’ve failed to provide any such grounds.

I have and now it’s the 5 times. Merely saying I have not provided the “grounds” doesn’t make it any truer or persuasive as you have continually failed to show why that is the case.

I’ll ask again:
If BoN’s charts had shown 125 years, 25 of decline and then the last 100 of flatlining, would you deny that there’s a flatlining trend?

Depends on the steepness of the decline and one needs to make a judgement call, so yes, it could matter or not. We would need to read the numbers. In the real case, in Fester’s chart , it most certainly matters because the fall in the first 25 years was steep enough to appear material, yet Fester left that part out.

What about 75, with 25 of decline and then the last 50 of flatlining?

Same again.

Assuming you’d be prepared to contemplate the possibility that charts like that indicated a likely trend, what are your scientific or statistical grounds for asserting that 25 years is too short to indicate a trend?

I’m happy to tell you. As we really don’t have a great deal of seriously accurate and comprehensive data then most certainly every year counts especially if the beginning of AGW time is considered to correlate with the Industrial Revolution. So yea, 25 years more does count and it really counts when you have 50 years of info with snowfall declining in the next 25 years without any recovery.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 4:16 pm

LOL. Musk knows some physics and is a working rocket engineer. Twiggy is merely a fool.
Rocket engineers hate using hydrogen. See the leaks with NASA’s SLS. Nobody is going to build an oxygen/ammonia rocket anytime soon again, either (X-15). If you want to handle hydrogen use a backbone of carbon atoms. Even one makes things a lot easier.

Yes Eyrie; I too think Twiggy’s H2 fixation is all intestinal methane being discharged.
However Twiggy has one thing going for him; he are someone close to him can put a great team together. I was very impressed with FMG ‘breaking things that worked to make them better’ at the big iron ore price crunch time. His aboriginal employee development plan at that time seemed likely to do good, and the financial ‘whackery’is innovative even if irritating.
Hydrogen is bullshit. So what is his game? I think its worth it to him to get the likes and clicks from media and give a glow of green to his main game, mining. A bit of subsidy farming for the renewables and it might even end up either cash positive or only losing OPM.

Morsie
Morsie
September 20, 2022 4:17 pm

Flicking frkm channel tk channel last night,the Australian commentators were fuckkng useless in identifying dignitaries.The British weren’t great either but at least they knew the landmarks and the regiments.
The ful set tones of Karl Stefankvic drove me to the tender embrace of the ABC.
Question, given that most of the ABC journo are in London why did we get the British feed?I suppose the answer is that the Aussie ABC journo are useless and not up to it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 20, 2022 4:18 pm

NT Police waited until morning to inform Kumanjayi Walker’s family he was dead, out of fear of reprisal

Matt Cunningham
Sky News Northern Australia Correspondent
@mattcunningham
An hour ago September 20, 2022

Police waited until the morning after an officer had shot dead an Indigenous man to inform his family due to fears of payback, an inquest has heard.

Constable Zachary Rolfe shot Kumanjayi Walker three times during at botched arrest attempt at Yuendumu just after 7pm on November 9, 2019.

He was taken to the Yuendumu Police Station where officers performed first aid, but he died at 8:36pm. His family was not notified of his death until the next morning.

Sergeant Christopher Hand, who was working at Yuendumu Police Station on the night of the shooting, told the inquest into Walker’s death police did not inform the family he had died because they were worried about payback.

“The concern was that members of the community would seek cultural payback on the police,” he said.

“Not saying that all of the community had that mindset, but we need to be mindful that that is part of their culture, traditional payback, and if there’s a mixture of the anger and tension and some alcohol that has been consumed then sometimes that does get out of hand.”

Sgt Hand said he was aware of instances where disturbances started over a Facebook post.

“This obviously wasn’t a Facebook post, it was an Indigenous man being shot by police,” he said.

Sgt Hand said at 9:05pm he received a call from Eddie Robertson – the grandfather of Walker’s girlfriend Rakeisha Robertson – who was in an agitated state asking if Walker was still alive.

He knew Walker was dead but told Mr Roberston he was still receiving medical treatment.

“That is a critical decision and that could have had implications for how the remainder of the night went,” he said in response to a question about why he hadn’t told the truth.

“Bearing in mind we only had limited resources in the police station. There was concern that once the community knew he had died then our safety was at risk.”

At 12:07am Mr Robertson had a phone conversation with Sergeant Terry Zhang, the forward commander flown in from Alice Springs to managed the critical incident. He told him Walker was still receiving medical treatment to which Mr Robertson replied “thank you”. Walker had died more than three hours earlier.

Counsel assisting the Coroner, Patrick Coleridge, read to the court part of a report filed last week by the North Australian Aboriginal Justice Agency.

The report, titled In Normal Circumstances: Understanding the structural nature of racial violence in the Northern Territory, was prepared by Indigenous academics Professor Chelsea Watego, Dr Amanda Porter, Dr David Singh and others.

“Overall, we find that the death of KW was the result of brutal, structural, racial violence, perpetrated by the Northern Territory Government through its police and health departments,” Mr Coleridge quoted the report as saying.

“One way in which that systemic racism manifested, on the 9th of November was in an over-exaggeration by the Northern Territory police of the level of threat posed to those officers by the community following the shooting.”

Sergeant Hand disagreed with this assessment.

“In my experience working with Indigenous communities particularly in the Central Desert Region there is traditional, cultural payback, and that night that was one of the concerns that I had, that they obviously want answers but some of the young men, and perhaps even the older men, would want to mete out some sort of payback because they were angry and upset as to what has happened,” he said.

“That night, that was a real and present concern for me, given my experience working there and knowing of cultural payback occurring within the community when there’s a homicide of an Indigenous person from another Indigenous person.”

Sergeant Hand also said he found it incredible people were calling for police to no longer carry guns in Indigenous communities.

“Everyone has views about police and how police do things but for any community, whether it’s an Indigenous community or an urban community or a small town in country South Australia,” he said. “To suggest that police shouldn’t be armed with a sidearm I find that incredible, because there are guns in the community … and Yuendumu is the same, there are people with firearms licences and guns that are registered to them in Yuendumu, as there are in urban areas and other country areas.

“So they would expect us to protect the community. That is our job.”

Sgt Hand dismissed a suggestion put by Andrew Boe, counsel for the Walker, Lane and Robertson families, that police might not need to wear a Glock when, for example, taking a statement from someone in their yard.

“(What) if she’s the victim of a serious assault and her husband comes out with a firearm or a knife and we have to protect the victim and the other people in the house and ourselves,” he said.

In March a jury found Constable Rolfe not guilty of Walker’s murder.

The inquest in Alice Springs before Coroner Elisabeth Armitage continues.

Matt Cunningham is the Sky News Northern Australia Correspondent

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:19 pm

LOL. Musk knows some physics and is a working rocket engineer. Twiggy is merely a fool.

“Correct”, as they say in sunny Queensland. Twiggy is a complete fool , a retarded asshat especially that he’s only worth a lazy US$20 billion. If only he flew kites and remote toy planes wearing a terry toweling floppy hat.

JMH
JMH
September 20, 2022 4:19 pm

It’s hard to scrape that revolting, stench-ridden dog turd that has attacked the sole of your shoe. The more you try, the more bits of the putrid thing hang around.

calli
calli
September 20, 2022 4:19 pm

Thanks for that comment, ML.

The external pressures, mainly from family commitments and duties were the driver for many. I’ve only disclosed a tiny fraction of what happened to my family – surgeries, hospital visits to the dying, funerals, aged care – I won’t be forgetting the coercion in a hurry.

rosie
rosie
September 20, 2022 4:20 pm

“It was from first to last an individual decision ”
I don’t know how many times that has been repeated the last eighteen months.
Love your work Mother Lode
(And Dr Faustus’ comment earlier)

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:22 pm

Zatara says:
September 20, 2022 at 4:17 pm

‘Drunk’ Canadian PM Trudeau is slammed as a ‘tone deaf embarrassment’ for singing Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody at London hotel before Elizabeth II’s state funeral

Classy.

I’d bet short odds, he’ll eventually transition to “Sophia”. He’s so freaking gay.

Hey Zat, was a funeral a big deal in the US? I suspect it would have been too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 4:22 pm

Twiggy is having a bet each way. Unless things change an LNG import terminal might be the only way of getting new gas capacity into the eastern seaboard.

Zyconoclast
Zyconoclast
September 20, 2022 4:24 pm

The Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles has unanimously denied a posthumous pardon of George Floyd for a minor 2004 drug conviction in Houston. The decision comes 11 months after the agency initially recommended a pardon before reversing course and rescinding that recommendation, citing a procedural error.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:25 pm

JMH, I dunno who that was directed to, but trying to sound tough and gruff isn’t really you. You’re far better and more sincere as a groveling little beta with no original thought other than joining momentary popular ratpacks. Your net worth at this place is a big freaking zero and it will never change and trying harder makes it even funnier, you worthless turd.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:26 pm

Hydrogen is bullshit. So what is his game? I think its worth it to him to get the likes and clicks from media and give a glow of green to his main game, mining. A bit of subsidy farming for the renewables and it might even end up either cash positive or only losing OPM.

Yep.

Zatara
Zatara
September 20, 2022 4:28 pm

was the funeral a big deal in the US?

For the first couple days yes, you could find it on most news channels. It got a bit boring and dropped off most nets after that, then back up a bit for the actual burial.

You could find coverage of it any time if you wanted to though.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2022 4:29 pm

One thing is for sure.
The amount Fortescue is committing to green technologies, Twiggy will be at the front of the queue when it comes to influencing policy in Australia for the next decade.

calli
calli
September 20, 2022 4:31 pm

Ahahaha!

She’s barely in the ground and the talking heads are whingeing about the “cost” of her funeral.

I’d be more concerned about the “cost” of Net Zero lunacy, but that appears to be an article of faith, any challenge punishable by hang draw and quarter.

Chris
Chris
September 20, 2022 4:32 pm

NT Police waited until morning to inform Kumanjayi Walker’s family he was dead, out of fear of reprisal

Sad. If only there were a way to respond to violence that was a dis-incentive to repeat offenses.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2022 4:33 pm

I just watched John Campbell’s latest vid.
Amazing how they can track each individual strain of Omicron.
Fuck, there are a lot of them now.
Makes the idea of a booster for 3 or 4 strains ago seem insane.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 4:34 pm

Green energy will probably be like the railroads. Some will make fortunes. Others will lose them. Technological change always presents opportunities.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2022 4:35 pm

Throw a trillion bucks at something, you’re bound to get an outcome.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:36 pm

feelthebern says:
September 20, 2022 at 4:29 pm

One thing is for sure.
The amount Fortescue is committing to green technologies, Twiggy will be at the front of the queue when it comes to influencing policy in Australia for the next decade.

Bern,

I’m no expert on the subject but I’d bet that for the next decade renewballs etc will be the only game in town in the energy space and Twiggy is potentially making a decent gamble. Let’s face facts, unless there’s revolution of some sort here, nuclear isn’t going to come on stream in a hurry and we’re closing down coal plants. What do you think?

Cassie of Sydney
September 20, 2022 4:37 pm

“The external pressures, mainly from family commitments and duties were the driver for many. I’ve only disclosed a tiny fraction of what happened to my family – surgeries, hospital visits to the dying, funerals, aged care – I won’t be forgetting the coercion in a hurry.”

Yep. I think many of us were in the same position.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 20, 2022 4:37 pm

Jobs had an interesting take on new technology. He was never interested in being first. Lots of stuff being done now feels like stumbling around in the dark.

Bruce
Bruce
September 20, 2022 4:37 pm

“……progressive ideology is a toxic and fatal combination of ignorance, stupidity and hypocrisy.”

You forgot incompetence and murderous malice.

And those are just their finer points

JMH
JMH
September 20, 2022 4:38 pm

Twiggy + Hydrogen has to equal BOOM somewhere.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 20, 2022 4:39 pm

Speaking of Hobbits.
I caught up on the Rings of Power.
It’s an ok fantasy series but it isn’t true to any of the Tolkien books I’ve read.
It’s more like a fan fiction derivative series that show up in Star Wars & Warhammer universe.

JC
JC
September 20, 2022 4:39 pm

Jobs had an interesting take on new technology. He was never interested in being first.

I read somewhere the first iphone could have been built in the very early 90s. It would have cost US$5.5 million at the time.

Roger
Roger
September 20, 2022 4:42 pm

Australians are still wearing those stupid masks…

Really? Not in this neck of the woods.

  1. Plod-adjacent stuck its finger in the air and on the strength of that test said ‘we know it’s not terror-related”,…

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