Open Thread – Weekend 4 Feb 2023


The Bazincourt Steeple, Camille Pissarro, 1895


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calli
calli
February 4, 2023 8:01 pm

Her persona as the rambling effete is, I think, a perfect satire.

Who is this “her” of which you speak? I seem to have got lost somewhere in the thread. On account of it beingSaturday night.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 4, 2023 8:10 pm

Barilaro is an absolute grub so I don’t care on this referral. However the ALP again shows the Liberals how it is done, noting there’s still no referral to the Fed ICAC over the Brittany’s payout….

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/chris-minns-refers-john-barilaro-to-icac-over-allegations-his-office-intervened-in-the-allocation-of-bushfire-relief-funds/news-story/c3fc079606026835b6468854d0160848

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 8:12 pm

callisays:

February 4, 2023 at 8:01 pm

Her persona as the rambling effete is, I think, a perfect satire.

Who is this “her” of which you speak?

The main character in “Cunk on Earth”.
Ms Cunk.

calli
calli
February 4, 2023 8:14 pm

Thanks. Netflix. I will check it out.

Cassie of Sydney
February 4, 2023 8:23 pm

“Barilaro is an absolute grub so I don’t care on this referral. However the ALP again shows the Liberals how it is done, noting there’s still no referral to the Fed ICAC over the Brittany’s payout….”

I was thinking the same earlier this evening.

Cassie of Sydney
February 4, 2023 8:31 pm

“In the event of a quake while I’m here I’m heading for the hills (or the roof of my building) as the last one caused a tsunami just a few minutes later.”

I was reading recently about the 1755 Lisbon earthquake and tsunami a few days ago. It was catastrophic.

But just think, in our own lifetime we’ve seen what happened with the 2004 Boxing Day Indian Ocean earthquake and 2011 Japanese earthquake.

I know someone who lost a young cousin and his wife in the Indian Ocean earthquake. They had been visiting Thailand for a holiday. This person had to travel to Thailand to find and identify the bodies which was a gruesome experience. He was personally devastated by the experience for a long time afterwards but as he said later, you could not blame anyone, it was an act of God.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 4, 2023 8:34 pm

Democrat Tim Kaine’s Wife Denounces Declaration of Independence, Constitution as ‘Fundamental in Enshrining Slavery’

Yep, they really really don’t like those documents.

Student appeals conviction for distributing Constitution on public campus (2 Feb)

Tim Tizon, a former Arizona State University (ASU) student, has now appealed his conviction for trespass, filed against him by the university because he had had the nerve to distribute copies of the Constitution to others, without obtaining the school’s permission.

Indicted for handing out copies of one of the most revered documents in America.

Cassie of Sydney
February 4, 2023 8:34 pm

“Activists are never satisfied that’s why there will never be reconciliation.”

Correct.

Makka
Makka
February 4, 2023 8:38 pm

I think living in rural France for a year might be on the cards.

The south- west dept 64. Rural but lovely villages and spa towns aplenty. Summer festivals, bull fighting, Pau, Pyrenees, Pays Basque, Biarritz, close to Bordeaux and beaches of the Biscay, nip across to Carcassone for the bouillabaisse, Lyon for awesome quinine. Everything in 1-2 hrs steady drive. I just might do more than a year.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 8:38 pm

Biden and the balloon: not shooting it down and recovering the data because:

1 the chunks own him and his tinpot generals
2 biden’s senility is messing up the chain of command
3 both of the above

Makka
Makka
February 4, 2023 8:43 pm

cuisine, not quinine. Bloody hell.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 8:44 pm

Jihad latest:

NYC: Muslim cleric urged Muslims to ‘cut the throats’ of non-Muslims, recruited for the Islamic State (ISIS)

Germany: Muslim migrant rapes woman, tells her ‘We’re f***ing now, or I’ll slit your throat’

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 4, 2023 8:44 pm

Cassie I was in Thailand on break at the Boxing Day Tsunami time. I was nowhere near the Andaman Sea. I was apparently listed on the DFAT missing list for 3 days. I was actually oblivious to the event till the day before I needed to leave the country where I decided clearing customs would have that removed.

My brother mentions from time to time that he didn’t want to have to get on a plane to try and find out what happened to me. The 40 missed calls and 80 messages when I finally checked my mobile phone as I was completely inattentive to and on silent was telling. I truly wouldn’t wish that situation on anyone.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 4, 2023 8:46 pm

“Activists are never satisfied that’s why there will never be reconciliation.”

The “Uluru Statement from the Heart” calls for a Voice/Treaty/Truth-telling, and Albo’s promised to implement the full agenda.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
February 4, 2023 8:48 pm

Just saw Indian guys putting down the new road surface.
The bluestone is bigger than we would use with lots of tar. This is a base and then the final seal with finer crush. No such thing as shoving a thin layer of bitumen on compacted gravel.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 8:49 pm

The English embracing Klaus Schwab’s plan:

What’s the Canterbury Circulation Plan?

It’s pretty much the same thing as every other World Economic Forum 15-minute city idea.

Canterbury Council wants to divide the city into five zones and then limit the use of private vehicles.

Once the city is zoned up, the residents will be allocated a zone.

They can drive freely in their zone but mustn’t pass between zones unless they take a newly specified route. Of course, the whole thing will be controlled by ANPR cameras that will fine residents if they try to travel between zones any other way than what the authoritarian council dictates.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 8:51 pm

And if it’s not Klaus it’ll be George:

The Man Who Wants ‘Cities to Fall Apart’?

Indolent
Indolent
February 4, 2023 8:57 pm

An MSNBC anchor was told she had acid reflux. The next day she was rushed to the hospital to have fluid drained from around her heart.

Vossoughian said she has pericarditis and myocarditis, both brought on by a common cold.

When was the last time you heard that one.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 4, 2023 8:58 pm

But just think, in our own lifetime we’ve seen what happened with the 2004 Boxing Day Indian Ocean earthquake and 2011 Japanese earthquake.

Indeed, I was deployed on an Australian Medical Team to Aceh after the tsunami, and learned to anaesthetise 2 patients at once (Ketamine) in a single operating room with a temperature of 35C and 100% humidity, all while aftershocks in the 7s happened multiple times a day.

6 months later I was working in a USAF tent ICU just out of Baghdad, getting incoming rockets and 50 big trauma cases a day..

I think these 2 events showed me how fragile the world is, and how abnormal the western ‘peace and tranquilty’ was.

I think the 2 events helped prepare me to see what was going on now, and to deal with it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 4, 2023 9:00 pm

“Barilaro is an absolute grub so I don’t care on this referral. However the ALP again shows the Liberals how it is done, noting there’s still no referral to the Fed ICAC over the Brittany’s payout….”

Yeah, well the Liberal would like to return to the Treasury Benches earlier than 2045, so that’s one reason they won’t be going down that road.

Here’s another:
The soon to convene Sofronoff Inquiry will be looking into Political Interference in the Higgins Investigation and the Lehrmann prosecution.
Should any notable Liberals be found to have loaded a few tons on one side of the Scales of Justice, they can say ta ta to the next Election and the one after that.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 4, 2023 9:08 pm

The reason I’m not really worried about this is because even if the fears turn out to be well-founded, it’s obvious that a future Coalition government will spearhead a campaign for the Voice’s removal from the Constitution.

Is this sarcasm? Hard to tell these days.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 4, 2023 9:09 pm

Richard Cranium

Change the CD, we’ve heard it all before.

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 9:12 pm

Crossie:
Just signing back in….

They are, at least all the ones sold in supermarkets and fruit shops. I expect the eggs you buy from farm gate may not.

I hadn’t noticed, there’s a code on the box MCG 366 13 13 L13/14 & a code of MCG ??? on each egg.
Interesting.

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 9:20 pm

Crossie et al:

Donors had to be aged less than 40 way back then. The main change in transplantation has been increase in the donor age. It seems they will take your spare parts up until at least age 65 now.

They’re still happy to take mine at 70.

I believe this age limit has been pushed even further. My husband was 69 when he died and I was asked to donate his corneas.

Another interesting coincidence – I worked in the Liver and Renal Transplant Unit at PA in 89,90. Fascinating work, especially the immunology side.
One of those stories that stick in your mind and make it all worthwhile regarding a lady with an A type blood group. Unfortunately it identifies a patient and I can’t share it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 4, 2023 9:23 pm

Maybe you are comfortable with that for yourself. Maybe you are even happy for your children, who will never know a time when it was different, to live in an Australia where their every moment from birth to death is dogged by the message that there are not one but two peoples that occupy this continent and only one of them has a right to be here.

Mealy mouthed sludge.
He’s Gaslighting the No voters as racists.

C.L.
C.L.
February 4, 2023 9:26 pm

Biden and the balloon: not shooting it down and recovering the data because:

1 the chunks own him and his tinpot generals
2 biden’s senility is messing up the chain of command
3 both of the above

I think 4. ‘it’s just a balloon’ is actually the real story here.

It’s so high, it isn’t even American air space. Past attempts to define where space begins have been vetoed by the US for years because they don’t want to be sanctioned for their own spy craft.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 4, 2023 9:29 pm

Change the CD, we’ve heard it all before.

You have?
That the Morrison Government brought itself down by it’s inept handling of the Higgins Affair?
And that Labor obviously knew what had gone down and didn’t even bother campaigning once Higgins went public?
Whether Scotty lied his head off or not, the perception wasw that he wasn’t telling the truth.

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 9:39 pm

Here’s my problem with the Chinese spy balloon story: The Chinese have spy satellites, possibly not as sophisticated as the Americans’ but advanced enough to take pics of what they want to see. A balloon is at the mercy of wind direction and cannot be guided to where you would want it to go. So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere? 

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 4, 2023 9:41 pm

Richard Cranium

Yes, you have repeated it so many times, with no actual evidence to support what you say.

Evidence, or try something else.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 4, 2023 9:43 pm

Above 60,000 feet or FL600 it is in US Class E. Still US airspace. Nowhere near the Karman line at 100 km or the US definition of space at 50 miles.
Maybe they didn’t want to shoot it down because if they failed it would be embarrassing. There’s a story of two Canadian F-18’s that expended 1000 rounds of 20mm on an errant Canadian weather balloon drifting towards Russian airspace and it flew for 6 days afterwards.
While I think an AMRAAM could hit the balloon I’m not so sure the fuse would work. That leaves the balloon with a couple of AMRAAM shaped holes which won’t bring it down in a hurry.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 4, 2023 9:44 pm

I don’t need to be reconciled with aborigines. We get along fine. I’ve never had problems with them. One asked me for a ciggy once and I had to tell him that I didn’t smoke them so didn’t have any. That was accepted.

I have a certain dislike of certain activists, but there’s not much aboriginal about them. If they want to be reconciled with me, all they need to do is stop bugging me with divisive shit.

jupes
jupes
February 4, 2023 9:45 pm

Indeed, I was deployed on an Australian Medical Team to Aceh after the tsunami,

I deployed as a linguist to Phuket after the tsunami, attached to the police disaster victim identification team. They could have a DVI team in Thailand because ‘only’ about 3k people were killed. In Aceh they buried the victims in pits of 10,000. They had to dig a dozen of them.

will
will
February 4, 2023 9:45 pm

he reason I’m not really worried about this is because even if the fears turn out to be well-founded, it’s obvious that a future Coalition government will spearhead a campaign for the Voice’s removal from the Constitution.

someone upthread quoting a comedian

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 9:47 pm

Jupes!

cohenite
February 4, 2023 9:48 pm

A balloon is at the mercy of wind direction and cannot be guided to where you would want it to go.

The balloon can be guided. Who gives a rat’s arse. It’s a chunk balloon. Remember the Hainan Island BS when a chunk fighter forced a yank spy plane which was in international waters to land in chunksville and the plane was stripped of all it’s secret content and the crew kept prisoners for 11 days.

The standard is what would Trump do. The balloon would have been shot full of holes and the instruments now being examined; and Xi would have had another ulcer. The chunks own biden. Biden should be shot with an arrow dipped in cow shit. If it’s good enough for Elsa it’s good enough for that old bastard.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 4, 2023 9:49 pm

Balloons can be steered by raising or lowering their altitude to get into a region where the wind is more where you want to go. Commonly done by hot air balloon pilots. In the stratosphere up above 60,000 feet the wind doesn’t usually blow strongly.
You can raise or lower the altitude of the balloon by installing a a solar or battery powered pump and storage reservoir inside and pumping in or out of storage the lifting helium. With modern atmospheric modeling and prediction reasonable positioning can be achieved.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 4, 2023 9:52 pm

They could have a DVI team in Thailand because ‘only’ about 3k people were killed. In Aceh they buried the victims in pits of 10,000. They had to dig a dozen of them.

Correct, the water went fully 1/2 way across Banda Aceh … miles and miles inland. The destruction and the stench was amazing, the dead were being buried in large trenches by excavators. It sounds harsh, but it taught me something useful about disaster response – the injured are a medical problem, the dead are an earthmoving problem.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 9:54 pm

So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere? 

It could be a Fright Balloon.
Or possibly a Taunt Balloon.
Hard to know with the Inscrutables.

Ed Case
Ed Case
February 4, 2023 9:55 pm

So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere?

The point is it takes attention away from the build up to major War in Ukraine and people dropping dead from the Vax.

Round the world sailor Jessica Watson’s partner dropped from a catastrophic Stroke and didn’t wake up.
He was 29.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 9:56 pm

Biden should be shot with an arrow dipped in cow shit. 

Jersey or Friesian?

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 4, 2023 10:00 pm

One advantage of a spy balloon loitering over an area in a region of low wind is that it will give continuous coverage over a period of hours to days. A satellite in LEO moves at 8 km/sec and won’t be back over that spot for about 24 hours unless you are at the equator and the satellite is in equatorial orbit. When doing secret stuff at Area 51, spy satellite schedules are taken into account. A balloon would stuff up your testing schedule.

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 10:01 pm

The balloon can be guided.

To precise geographical points, which is what some were suggesting? It was suggested that it was being deliberately flown over US missile sites. Bullshit. They have satellites. 

cohenite
February 4, 2023 10:01 pm

Jersey or Friesian?

Hereford. Their shit is rancid. Even the flies won’t touch it.

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 10:03 pm

With modern atmospheric modeling and prediction reasonable positioning can be achieved.

Oh Yeah? Define reasonable in this instance.

Go!

cohenite
February 4, 2023 10:03 pm

They have satellites.

Balloons move slower and give better resolution. Everyone knows that. Except biden who when the drugs wear off has now regressed to 1974.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:08 pm

cohenitesays:

February 4, 2023 at 10:01 pm

Jersey or Friesian?

Hereford. Their shit is rancid. Even the flies won’t touch it.

OMG!
I didn’t include beef breeds in the options!
Practically racist.
Or patriarchal.
Or something.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 4, 2023 10:09 pm

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/psywars-fifth-generation-warfare

Wow – Robert Malone on 5th gen warfare and how the whole COVID saga was an attack on the citizens by their governments …. amazing to see how far these clinicians and scientists have come now they have been red pilled.

40 minutes, but an amazing expose.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:10 pm

Can a balloowen be navigated to a precise spot at those altitudes?
Captain Bigglesworth has doubts.

Eyrie
Eyrie
February 4, 2023 10:11 pm

Reasonable enough to get the pix you want. If you don’t succeed, try again and cameras can be pointed. They don’t have to just look straight down. Maybe they are looking at crew changeover times and procedures at the missile silos.

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 10:12 pm

Balloons move slower and give better resolution. Everyone knows that. Except biden who when the drugs wear off has now regressed to 1974.

Please, at some point resolution really doesn’t matter much if it all excellent quality.

The Satellite can repeat it’s work continuously over time. Tell me, why don’t we ever hear about US balloons floating around unfriendly countries? Perhaps, because they’re freaking useless most of the time?

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 10:13 pm

Indolent:
The war on Whites continues, and the Obama shadow lengthens.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:15 pm

Maybe they are looking at crew changeover times and procedures at the missile silos.

Oh, FFS, they could find that out by asking at the local Wendy’s.
Give me a break.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:16 pm

And the guys at the silos don’t light the blue touch paper to launch.
FMD.

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 10:17 pm

Reasonable enough to get the pix you want.

You’re avoiding the question. You suggested the guidance system is reasonable enough. This is pertinent to the pics you’re looking for.

If you don’t succeed, try again and cameras can be pointed.

Not really. You don’t keep trying this against the US.

They don’t have to just look straight down. Maybe they are looking at crew changeover times and procedures at the missile silos.

Maybe the earth is a square box.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 10:18 pm

Please, at some point resolution really doesn’t matter much if it all excellent quality.

Resolution has got nothing to do with this. It’s a fu.king pissing contest; and right now the chunks have got a stream a foot wide and 10 foot long going; biden can’t even manage vapour.

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 10:19 pm

Resolution has got nothing to do with this. It’s a fu.king pissing contest; and right now the chunks have got a stream a foot wide and 10 foot long going; biden can’t even manage vapour.

Tell me something we don’t know. I dare you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:20 pm

The balloon thing is poking a stick up a hollow log.
No more, no less.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:21 pm

As far as pissing contests go, call me back at 4:00 a.m.
That’s when I’m at my best.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 10:23 pm

Tell me something we don’t know. I dare you.

Something you don’t know; or other folks don’t know; or both. I know it’s Saturday night and you’re on the turps but…resolution!

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 10:26 pm

I know it’s Saturday night and you’re on the turps

I had one beer three hours ago in Flinders at a drinks party. I’d never seen the brand. It was called Furphy. WTF?

cohenite
February 4, 2023 10:27 pm

As far as pissing contests go, call me back at 4:00 a.m.
That’s when I’m at my best.

The key variables for judging the stream are length, thickness, colour and texture. Odour is optional so avoid asparagus before hand.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 10:29 pm

I had one beer three hours ago in Flinders at a drinks party.

Yeah, yeah; my BIL had one beer last weekend at the local brewery. It was their signature and came in 1 litre jars.

JC
JC
February 4, 2023 10:32 pm

Don’t be insufferable, Cronkite.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:33 pm

The key variables for judging the stream are length, thickness, colour and texture. 

To avoid fully waking up it’s an IFR operation and using full sonar.
Obviously it’s easy to tell when you’re hitting water, but discerning between seat, plaster, wall tiles and floor tiles by sound alone, and adjusting accordingly, takes some doing.
I am on target 91.3% of the time.

WolfmanOz
February 4, 2023 10:36 pm

calli says:
February 4, 2023 at 7:45 pm
Those magnificent guys, seven in number, are now playing on Gem.

Currently moving towards Boot Hill.

No elephants to support their cause, just a hearse and good aim.

Enjoy !

Tonight I’m watching Cary and Audrey in the timeless classic Charade.

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 10:42 pm

Indolent:

Did you know the doctors are keeping a database of delinquent aka non compliant anti (vaxxers)

No matter how much people growl at the restrictions, the administrative state is pushing ahead.
I wonder when they’ll be demanding people start wearing the Bio Magen David? And for the same reason?

132andBush
132andBush
February 4, 2023 10:43 pm

The US stated earlier in the piece that measures were taken to nullify the ballon’s capability. Eg jamming.
Perhaps thinking it’s taking photos is barking up the wrong tree and maybe it’s a passive electronic surveillance thing.

As long as it doesn’t give away any capability secrets in the doing, the bloody thing should’ve been blown to bits as soon as it entered US airspace.

C.L.
C.L.
February 4, 2023 10:44 pm

It could be a Fright Balloon.
Or possibly a Taunt Balloon.

Or it could be the first of 99 Luftballons.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 10:46 pm

WolfMan.
You’ve no doubt seen “Around The World in Eighty Days”.
Your considered thoughts on the accuracy of balloon navigation?

C.L.
C.L.
February 4, 2023 10:46 pm

Thank you Duk and Jupes for your service.

cohenite
February 4, 2023 10:47 pm

Alright I’m off to watch Clambake with Elvis and Will Hutchins and a 1959 Chevrolet Corvette XP-87 Stingray concept car. Sure is purty.

132andBush
132andBush
February 4, 2023 10:48 pm

I see the discussion has moved on.

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 10:52 pm

This was just after the video you put up earlier, Indolent.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1621536215655661572

These kids are sociopaths. WTF do their parents think they’ll be like as adults?

Cassie of Sydney
February 4, 2023 10:52 pm

On the topic of balloons, pre-Covid I went to the movies and saw a good German film, based on a true story, of how a German family in 1983 or 1984, living in then East Germany and desperate to leave, finally escaped in a balloon they’d secretly made at home.

It was a good film.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 4, 2023 10:54 pm

ZK2A at 5:35.
So what was the final percentage split?

In Western Australia, at least, the principle is that, if you are married less then five years, and there are no children, what you get out of a property settlement, is what you contributed to the marriage.

The Creature From the Black Lagoon went into the Court expecting to be walk out with a six – figure settlement, and the keys to a house I had owned before we were married. She was bitterly disappointed when she was informed that the final figure was in the low range of five figures, and no, she wasn’t getting my house. Seems she, and the “girls” had booked a table at a well known Subiaco restaurant to celebrate. No, I was not going to add to the final figure as an act of generosity.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
February 4, 2023 10:54 pm

JCsays:
February 4, 2023 at 9:39 pm
Here’s my problem with the Chinese spy balloon story: The Chinese have spy satellites, possibly not as sophisticated as the Americans’ but advanced enough to take pics of what they want to see. A balloon is at the mercy of wind direction and cannot be guided to where you would want it to go. So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere?

Check this out.

He was basically bang on from where he started…the bloke on board was feverishly following wind patterns and adjusting altitude accordingly to catch the streams. That “Chinese” balloon is just blowing in the wind.

Your point stands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hYgnLNEp2Y

Cassie of Sydney
February 4, 2023 10:56 pm

” It sounds harsh, but it taught me something useful about disaster response – the injured are a medical problem, the dead are an earthmoving problem.”

It’s the reality.

WolfmanOz
February 4, 2023 10:56 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
February 4, 2023 at 10:46 pm
WolfMan.
You’ve no doubt seen “Around The World in Eighty Days”.
Your considered thoughts on the accuracy of balloon navigation?

The David Niven version I assume . . . not watched it for years . . . as for balloon navigation I’d reckon Phileas Fogg would have much more an idea than the Chinese.

Cassie of Sydney
February 4, 2023 11:01 pm

A teenager girl has died from a shark attack in Fremantle.

“Teen girl reported killed in shark attack in Perth river

A 16-year-old girl who was on a jet-skiing afternoon in Perth’s Swan River near a Fremantle bridge has died after a reported shark attack today. Friends of hers told police they had seen the attack, after she had entered the water to swim with a pod of dolphins.

The girl, whose identity has not been released, reportedly suffered a severe leg injury.

WA Police Fremantle District Acting Inspector Paul Robinson said the Perth teenager had died soon after the attack, about 3pm local time.

“It’s an extremely traumatic event for everyone involved and everyone who knew the young girl, so I won’t be going into the extent of the injuries,” Inspector Robinson said.

“It is unusual for a shark to be [there],” he said.

“The family weren’t there when this took place … the family are absolutely devastated by the news ,” Acting Inspector Robinson said.

“However her friends were [there] and as you can imagine this is an extremely traumatic incident for anyone to witness. We’re offering counselling services to anyone who did witness it or is affected by the incident.”

A local resident said she heard children screaming and went out to see what was happening, the ABC reported.

The woman, who didn’t want to be identified, said a man had dived into the water to help, describing him as a “true hero”. She said the girl’s injury was “like nothing I’ve seen before”.

Nathan Vasta, a local resident, told the ABC: “I swim here sometimes just off the bridge. It’s kind of haunting knowing that it could’ve been me.

“I heard someone’s leg got bitten, I didn’t really hear what her injuries were. I heard someone saying that it was a very deep cut. It’s pretty scary because I like being in the water and the river is quite local to me.”

A Perth man, Cameron Wrathall, was severely injured by a bull shark while swimming in the Swan River not far from today’s scene in January 2021, the ABC reported, in what was believed to have been the first attack in the river since the 1960s.

I bolded the above sentence because we keep hearing from progressives about “toxic masculinity”, yet we never hear about “heroic masculinity”, do we? And yet it’s heroic masculinity that dives into water to try and save a young girl’s life.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 11:02 pm

living in then East Germany and desperate to leave, finally escaped in a balloon they’d secretly made at home.

Not the preferred method of getting Angela Merkel over the wall I wouldn’t think.
How much helium would you need?

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 11:10 pm

Flying Duk:
By God he’s nailed the problem.
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2023/02/03/dear-gays/

Short clip of Jordan Peterson on Joe Rogan, discussing the explosion in trans identification and toxic femininity.

And when you look at the hysterical young women being swept up into this madness, you start to think “Where does this end?”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 11:12 pm

Dover, can you try to prevent JC nick-naming someone here “Phileas Fogg”?
Thank you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 11:13 pm

A troll-balloon.
That’s what it is.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 4, 2023 11:16 pm

living in then East Germany and desperate to leave, finally escaped in a balloon they’d secretly made at home.

I remember reading an account of this – the author made the point that there were no shortage of people trying to flee the Communist paradises of the”Peoples Republics” but there wasn’t any such queue trying to get into said workers paradises. North Vietnam for example – given their choice in the 1954 Geneva Accords, one million North Vietnamese “went South” while only 50,000 took the option of moving to the glorious Peoples Republic.

Jorge
Jorge
February 4, 2023 11:17 pm

Thought I heard a news report earlier tonight of a second balloon sighting.

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 11:20 pm

Indolent:

A book has been released analysing the information reluctantly released by Pfizer, which they wanted to keep secret for some 70 years. It is available on Amazon.

Here.
Not available in Australia?
Couldn’t buy it through my own or the Catallaxy portal.
Damn.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 4, 2023 11:23 pm

Jorgesays:

February 4, 2023 at 11:17 pm

Thought I heard a news report earlier tonight of a second balloon sighting.

They’ll be like Elvis sightings by Tuesday.

rosie
rosie
February 4, 2023 11:24 pm

Swimming with shark food probably isn’t ever a good idea.
I remember a Tasmanian mother of quads getting killed by a shark swimming with seals.
Very sad for everyone involved.

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 11:35 pm

Lizzie:

At one of the stops in the DMZ exhibition centre there is also a very touching set of two seat female statues, round faced little sweeties with bare feet and possibly pregnant. Well wishers have put heat pads on their little bar feet and chocolate bars in the hands folded in their laps. This is a memorial to the ‘comfort women’, and our tour guide said he was very happy no Japanese were in our group of ten as it made him more able to express his feelings. Japan ruled Korea (badly) during the first part of the twentieth century, until the Second World War ended that, and the Communists and the West divided the nation into two. The Japanese visit but are still not liked much.

Japans refusal to address this issue is a running sore in the Wests relationships with her.
It could be settled tomorrow with a heartfelt apology from the Japanese that satisfied the Korean comfort women’s – or their survivors – needs – not the Japanese governments concern of loss of face.
Apologise, Japan. Admit your criminal acts and let the dead past bury its dead in peace.

Robert Sewell
February 4, 2023 11:41 pm

Calli:

Afterwards, one of the men approached me and said how grateful he was that I raised the issue. I guess in these circumstances men have lost their voice in outlining the things they need to be aware of because women have completely occupied and guarded the “victim space” for so long.

Men are awake to the fact the system will gaol, financially ruin them, and cast them out socially if they complain or fight these battles. If they can salvage something from the wreckage, then good luck.
But expect more of the lying flat phenomenon.
And don’t expect them to enlist in their hundreds of thousands if they get called.
Perhaps those synthetic wombs will come in handy for cannon fodder.

Dot
Dot
February 4, 2023 11:50 pm

Considering the emerging data on prolonged use of SSRI’s it will be interesting to see what the prolonged use under medical supervision of MDMA is.

Try a float tank first. Then maybe micro dose psilocybin then MDMA as a last resort.

It works but it can put holes in your brain.

John Brumble
John Brumble
February 5, 2023 12:01 am

Look, I don’t want to stop Catallaxy’s equivalent of the campiest duo since West and Ward donned the polyester in the 70s in full flow, but you’re doing that thing that leftists do where they wilfully misunderstand how big the world is.

A spy balloon is both high enough that a change of position needn’t be very granular, but also low enough (comparatively) to deliver significantly better picture quality.

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 12:03 am

Calli:

Wolfman, I got the sense last night that men are not only too embarrassed to report DV on themselves or their mates but are too cowed to even point out that women are capable of it as well. And it took a woman to say so.

Yes. And we’ve seen some vicious examples of the former here on The Files.
I’ll leave it at that.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
February 5, 2023 12:05 am

And in important facts you need to know, there’s a Phat Phuc noodle bar in London.

C.L.
C.L.
February 5, 2023 12:11 am

Wall Street Journal beginning to lose faith in America’s Ukraine debacle:

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1621422973184770049

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 12:16 am

Flying Duk:

Women comprise many, if not the majority, of parents who murder their children if I remember correctly.

Also noted is the significant presence of a mother (exhibiting major elements of Muchausens by Proxy last seen during the 90’s) doing the hand patting and supporting the poor damn kid who is to be manipulated and mutilated.

rosie
rosie
February 5, 2023 12:22 am

Watched a couple of episodes of Cunk.
It’s a bit lame.

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 12:32 am

Doc Faustus:

If I identified as a betting person, I’d have $20 on the Pentagon hurriedly commissioning R&D into a munition that can reliably shred a loitering balloon.

Perhaps a net with weights on it to drag it down mostly intact, just to have a close look at what it is, how it was manufactured etc.
Just a thought.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
February 5, 2023 12:41 am

Swimming with shark food probably isn’t ever a good idea.

Full marks to the organisers of the Manly surf carnival two weeks ago who cancelled the event because sharks were attacking a dolphin off shore. Competitors had travelled from all around Australia to attend and the pressure to go ahead must have been immense.
Adding to the unease was the possibility of the body of climber who had recently fallen to his death off nearby Bluefish Point was due to rise from the depths (gasses) adding to the feeding frenzy.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
February 5, 2023 12:57 am

Hilarious aspect of AI spotted by Adam Piggott:
Q: Mike’s mum had 4 kids. 3 of them are Louis, Drake, and Matilda. What is the name of the 4th kid?
AI: It is not possible to determine the name of the 4th child without more information.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
February 5, 2023 1:12 am

cohenite: *slaps roof of research balloon*
These babies can fit so many classified megapixels inside them!

_

(It’s my expired meme and I’ll revive it if I want to.)

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity

So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere?

A balloon should do the trick to deliver/drop a bio-weapon.

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 1:27 am

Grey Ranga:

Dr F I remember in the early 60’s all of a sudden everything came with so much packaging. It’s worse now. In lots of cases the packaging costs more than the product.

It had to happen just to cut the shoplifting down to a tolerable amount.

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 1:46 am

Boambee John:

I suspect that he has had a few too many benzies today.

No this is 100% Mr Eds natural personna.
You cannot blame the drugs.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 5, 2023 1:52 am

South Korean Culture Update:

The Korean nation has an extraordinary history from the time of the first major dynasty, starting in the early C14th. By the 15th Century a very enlightened King, a scholar, created a phonetic alphabet in the local Korean language to replace the writing system inherited from China. -seeing ruler became a revered early cultural influence. He believed rightly) that the pictorial ideograms of Chinese civilisation halted many of his people from achieving literacy. His alphabet had 24 characters, phonetic signifiers, with two more vowels and ours, and consonants that like the vowels were attuned to the local speech phonemes. He also created a mobile sundial, inserted into a half-bowl, which could be carried around to tell the time anywhere.

Today we visited his major palace, the first one of five other royal palaces in Seoul, this one sited at the base of the mountain range that partly encloses Seoul, creating a spacious set of grounds within which are set numerous very fine C14th wooden decorated buildings serving various functions. The king is also claimed to have invented the underfloor heating system for these single story Palace rooms – a system equal to that of the Roman-invented hypercaust.

Every day at this Palace there is a formal ceremony for the changing of the guard, and it is hugely impressive. The medieval costumes recreated for the soldiers depicting various functions and ranks were extraordinary – reminiscent of the flights of fancy seen in some modern fantasy movies. Amazing silken gowns, in deep sky blue, purple, crimson, and some black, with contrasting waistbands and a variety of headgear, some decorated with the single long tailfeathers of marsh birds, some with masks, and with fur decorations, often a balaclava style topped with a roundheaded wide-brimmed hat in black. their shoes were like snowboots with a slight curled upturn. They carried various sorts of percussion instruments as well as large whistles ending in a funnel, and a trumpet quite reminiscent of the Celtic Carnix – long and ferocious in sound. Plus of course drums, a huge one announcing the procession, a thump to the heart and ears as it was soundly hammered by a strongman, and other drums and cymbals. The sound and sight of it made me think no wonder Marco Polo was astounded at the quality and nature of these Asian civilisations he saw or heard about.
One of the sights to go on your bucket list, Cats, cheap and close enough to do: a procession for the ages through the main gates and into the inner sanctum to protect the king. Men in dresses have nevere looked more manly, nor carried more ferocious-looking weaponry on their persons. Also present and contributing to the spirit of the display were young women who attend to show off their glitzy traditional costumes, with bell skirts rather like the famous Cretan snake goddess wore, but with modest tops, some wearing snowy white fur capes against the cold that froze the Palace lake and keeps it frozen daily. The loooked like charming darling dolls as they moved around on their hidden feet as if on rails. Young girls get free admission if they come traditionally dressed.

That’s the High Culture. In the Folk Museum that is nearby to this complex is an intricate display of the lives of the ordinary people as they greeted the seasons and started their daily round, from women in the villages and farmers in the fields, or as poor men gathering firewood bundles, to the local scholar creating his morning mindfulness. Very inventive graphics helped to fill in the cultural gaps: this museum is marble-floor and newly built, and a pleasure to visit.

Before that our tour with a driver and guide (which was a private tour, eschewing the usual markets and ginseng elements of the group tours) gave us plenty of time in the biggest Buddhist temple in Seoul. We didn’t go inside any temple, including the main one, as firstly, it was busy and full of worshippers, who also workshipped outside, and secondly, I didn’t want to take off my snow boots and have the usual struggle hauling them back on. Buddhism here is clearly a very ‘lived’ religion, even though only 20% of the population now call themselves Buddhist. 50% of South Koreans are now Christians, but the traditions of Buddhism and the older ‘Shaman’ religions still run deep in the culture and its countryside. Even Buddhists revere old and sacred trees, and carved tree-root spirit ‘guardians’ still guard some villages, bringing to mind for me the Bronze Age ‘tree root’ worship seen in Britain’s Sea-Henge. As folklorists can tell us, there are common threads in many cultures in what humans chose to see as sacred .

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 5, 2023 2:20 am

American influences since the Korean War in the early 1950’s have introduced into Korea the celebration of the European Hallow’een. Some Cats probably know already of the terrible Hallow’een crowd crush that killed at least 159 mainy young adults just a few months ago in October 22. Over one hundred thousand young Koriean teens and others of the trendy younger set were out partying for the first time in two years as Covid restrictions were removed for this event, which took place in narrow streets of the gentrified Old Town, an area of bars, gay culture and changing lifestyles.

Today, on our way to the Palace, past the President’s Blue House, we saw lines and lines of police buses, more than forty of them, and many police vehicles, all near the Plaza which our hotel overlooks. There were also many hundreds of yellow-coated police milling around. Our tour guide said later that day a demonstration was planned against City Hall and its failures re this disaster, to vent anger about this crush slaughter, which had been a time of such grief for some many families. The entrance to the new glass City Hall opens onto this Plaza.

Back at our hotel about 1pm we noticed the demonstration starting, and watched as police formed what seemed like set-piece squadrons going this and that way for crowd control as we viewed the scene from way above it. The crowd was not much bigger than the police contingent, and we thought that the demo might have become a fizzer. However, around 7pm it started up in earnest, with a stream of crying people walking around the street and our hotel itself, with loudspeakers. Hairy went down to see the crowd close up, and reports it was a slightly different crowd to that which he’d seen earlier on (which had contained many unionists and various flag of organisations and political parties). This evening crowd was tens of thousands, and was far more subdued; it was actually a candlelight procession (electric candles) of bereaved parents and other relatives. It went on for more than an hour processing around our end of the Plaza streets, being stopped occasionally to let traffic through. Obviously the authorities were going OTT with crowd control for this one, but far more gently this evening than we had witnessed earalier, where riot shields were on clear display. We spent some of the afternoon checking out the restrategising of the police as hastily made barricades were put onto the doors of the City Hall, but never challenged by the crowd, who had been more or less ‘locked up’ by a six deep police cordron. We also took some time out for an arvo nap so didn’t see the denouement there. We had room service for dinner as the major procession had begun and we wanted to continue to watch it from our vantage point, our thoughts with those who had suffered such grief and who now wanted ‘answers’ to help assuage it.

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 2:23 am

Cohenite:

NYC: Muslim cleric urged Muslims to ‘cut the throats’ of non-Muslims, recruited for the Islamic State (ISIS)
Germany: Muslim migrant rapes woman, tells her ‘We’re f***ing now, or I’ll slit your throat’

These animals were brought here by our governments for the express purpose of terrorising the citizenry. They are doing a fabulous job of it.
No other reason covers all the facts.

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 2:26 am

Cohenite:

Canterbury Council wants to divide the city into five zones and then limit the use of private vehicles.
Once the city is zoned up, the residents will be allocated a zone.

It seems almost like the Warsaw Ghetto. Permission required to leave your zone – and rarely given to a selected few.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 5, 2023 2:34 am

Sorry, haven’t proof read, it’s far too late to do so now. It’s time for bed. We are flying back to Australia late tomorrow.

I doubt if Qantas business class attendants will be ‘air hostesses’ as the Korean Asiana ones were. But at least the mask mandate stuff will be obsolete there.
It will feel odd to be in Australian climes and scenes again soon.

rickw
rickw
February 5, 2023 2:40 am

Will Thailand take on Pfizer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooYhDNX6Xy0

Robert Sewell
February 5, 2023 2:49 am

rickw:

Will Thailand take on Pfizer?

It’s an interesting scenario. If they do decide to go boots and all and target Pfizzer executives, it could quite easily end up a major embarrassment for the US. The Royal family in Thailand are revered by the people and they just may double down and deliver their own style of justice.

Gabor
Gabor
February 5, 2023 3:47 am

So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere?

Despite the dismal predictions of our BOM, winds can be quite predictable, been that way for ever, hence the sailing ships following certain routes.

Tom
Tom
February 5, 2023 4:00 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 4:08 am

29.3 at 1:00 in Perf. Despite colonising the globe humans (this one at least) are only capable of operating in a narrow temperature range.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 4:15 am

In other circumstances, it would have been a great night for fish & chips at the beach and a swim at dusk. Till you’ve lived in Perf, it’s hard to appreciate the consistency of the sea breeze and how it impacts how you live near the sea.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 4:19 am

So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere?

This rather misses the point. The same could be said of launching a missile that lands in say, the middle of the Pacific.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 5, 2023 4:41 am

You don’t have to look too hard to see the Bakhmut situation is pretty dire for Ukrainian forces.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 5, 2023 5:23 am

It looks like Russia is leaving a corridor open to allow the Ukrainian forces to get out of Bakhmut.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 5, 2023 5:27 am

I’m only catching up on news that Bob Woodward told the Washington Post that the Steele dossier was a load of shit & the overall reporting on Russia-gate was deeply flawed.

Gabor
Gabor
February 5, 2023 5:59 am

H B Bear says:
February 5, 2023 at 4:08 am

29.3 at 1:00 in Perf. Despite colonising the globe humans (this one at least) are only capable of operating in a narrow temperature range.

Good that you qualified “(this one at least)” because humans are living and striving in temp. ranges from -50 to +40, quite successfully. Don’t know if they are loving it, but they persist.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 5, 2023 6:47 am

Piers Akerman:

The last Labor treasurer named Jim was hardly a resounding success yet he seems to be the role model for the current Treasurer Jim Chalmers.

The earlier “Treasurer Jim” was Jim Cairns, probably best remembered now for his affair with Labor staffer Junie Morosi, whom he had hired, and for his embrace of socialist economics with a touchy-feely overlay that many attributed to Morosi’s influence.

Cairns, a former police officer, had once applied to join the Communist Party but humiliatingly had his application rejected because party officials suspected he may have been a plant.

Morosi successfully sued a Sydney radio station and The Daily Mirror for defamation, claiming the media outlets had suggested their relationship was improperly romantic or sexual, which both Cairns and Morosi denied.

Cairns later admitted that he had had a sexual relationship with his staffer but that was nothing compared to the alternate philosophies to which she introduced him.

Personal peccadillos aside, Cairns did hold a degree in economic history, not economics, and was in fact the first Victorian policeman to hold a tertiary degree.

That did not stop him in 1974 when deputy prime minister from espousing a bizarre economic philosophy which included a world in which money was abolished.

An account of his address to students at the ANU written by former Age economics writer Tony Thomas, who was present at the event, tells of Cairns arriving at the university accompanied by staffer Morosi dressed in “swami-style” robes. According to Thomas, Cairns sermonised that money transactions “epitomised the soulless relations between people. Money put barriers between us, money made us selfish”.

“In fact,” Thomas wrote for Quadrant magazine, Cairns said: “It would be a better world if money was abolished. We would give and take, based on a better style of relationship between individuals. Strife would subside. Harmony would reign. The world would become a better place.”

The new Treasurer Jim doesn’t have an economics degree, nor does he bring to his position any of the real-world experience the former policeman was able to draw upon, but his recent 6000-word essay on his wishful thinking on economic reform is just as off the planet as Cairns’ socialist fantasy.

Chalmers was awarded a PhD from the ANU in political science for his thesis on Paul Keating’s prime ministership and is one of those academics who style themselves as “Dr”, even though a political science degree is not one many academics would shout about, nor for that matter are his other degrees in Arts and Communications.

Chalmers real-life experience amounts to no more than a series of jobs within the Labor Party.

He worked first as a research officer for former Queensland premier Peter Beattie, then as a national research officer, before becoming media adviser to then Treasurer Wayne Swan, who boasted his economic skills without delivering even one of his four promised surpluses.

Work in then-opposition leader Kim Beazley’s office followed, then in the office of then-NSW premier Morris Iemma, back to Swan’s office, followed by a stint at the Chifley Research Centre – a Labor think-tank.

But his appointment as Treasurer has triggered such a rush of blood to the head that he now feels competent to deliver a manifesto on economics that makes the old Communist Five Year plans look like models of economic rationalism.

With as much meaning as the specious term “wellness”, Chalmers’ plan envisages the government interfering in the mechanisms which have delivered stability and opportunity to most of the civilised world.

Nothing would be safe from his interference – your home, your savings, your super, your relationship with your employer, – and neither he nor Prime Minister Anthony Albanese warned us that this was part of Labor’s plan before last year’s election.

The Chalmers’ declaration would effectively reverse the lauded reforms of the Hawke-Keating years and bring back an old-fashioned Whitlamesque command economy.

His vision has as much real-world substance as fairy floss but, if implemented in the least degree, it would nuke what remained of the national economy after the global warming fanatics destroy the mining and primary industry sectors.

Not yet a year into the job, this neophyte has yet to learn the limits of his knowledge. He simply doesn’t know what he doesn’t know, and channelling former New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern or the juvenile Greta Thunberg’s whining is not the answer.

Chalmers’ adolescent and utopian fantasy should be disavowed by the ALP immediately before the global market realises its Treasurer is still on his training wheels and abandons our nation.

JC
JC
February 5, 2023 6:53 am

This rather misses the point. The same could be said of launching a missile that lands in say, the middle of the Pacific.

Other than testing a missile, what’s the point of sending one to the middle of the -Pacific.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
February 5, 2023 6:54 am

Jewish graves vandalised at the historic Jewish cemetery at Maitland.
https://www.jwire.com.au/jewish-graves-vandalised-in-maitland/

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 5, 2023 6:56 am

Chalmers has clearly adopted the Garrett method of politics:

‘We’ll change it all when we get in.’

Good post BB.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 5, 2023 6:58 am

You will eat bugs because that’s all we’re going to sell you.

Great Reset: Supermarket Chain Lidl to Cut Down on Meat Products to Serve Green Agenda (4 Feb)

Major European grocery chain Lidl will seek to reduce the amount of meat products sold in its stores in favour of “alternative” protein sources to promote the global green agenda.

Lidl’s purchasing director for the German market, Christoph Graf, said this week at a Berlin ‘Green Week’ event that the discount supermarket retailer will seek to move away from selling meat because “there is no second planet”.

There may not be a second planet but there are plenty of other supermarket chains, which I’m sure carnivorous Germans will avail themselves of. GWGB.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 5, 2023 7:02 am

The picture wireless is telling me the inscrutable dry cleaners’ ‘weather balloon’ just got shot down.

Finally.

JC
JC
February 5, 2023 7:06 am

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Govt Covid Stupidity says:
February 5, 2023 at 1:26 am
So, what is the point of a spy balloon when the wind can send it anywhere?
A balloon should do the trick to deliver/drop a bio-weapon.

You lifted that from ww2 history, you dishonest rat. The Japanese tried that in ww2 and it fizzled out because it was stupid. Curiously, you left that last part out.

You ought to be considered by Marvel Comics as an action hero. Croc Driller.

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 5, 2023 7:12 am

Balloon shot down after completing its mission.
Gateway Pundit

Anchor What
Anchor What
February 5, 2023 7:15 am

The next one might float over a major city and detonate an air burst that knocks out every system using microchips – and that’s most systems – via a huge EMP pulse.

rosie
rosie
February 5, 2023 7:15 am

Lidless is like Aldi where people who have to check every penny shop, it’s not as simple for them to switch to another chain.

JC
JC
February 5, 2023 7:17 am

Driller vs Banks, Coppers, ATO, Magistrates, Licquor Licensing, health authorities, Uppity City Slickers.
Doesn’t matter who it is, he always wins by KO.

Marvel is going to turn him into an action hero. Croc Driller, Action Man.

sfw
sfw
February 5, 2023 7:20 am

Just read that Robert Malone essay that someone linked to earlier, pretty good stuff. He starts out saying that all the current big things happening in the world for the past few years have an authority in charge, then he proposes several possibilities but then says no to them, after that he discusses the methods used by this ‘authority’ and the outcomes but doesn’t say who he thinks is in charge.

I’ve used James Delingpole as an example of this sort of thinking. I can see why they think like that, after all, all the covid madness had all politicians, all the media, the medical establishments and others saying the same words, wanting the same actions, wanting the same results. It was too consistent to not be coordinated. So if it was, who or what was giving directions, laying out the problems and responses to be used?

Poor James is so far down that path that he believes there’s a shadowy cabal of ‘families and bloodlines’ dating back centuries or longer that always have controlled the world, but he won’t say who they are. Robert Malone thinks that someone is doing the coordinating etc but won’t say who, maybe he doesn’t know. I sympathise with him, the nickname ‘Plandemic’ is very appropriate, it seemed planned and every action by nearly every gov and medical body in the west seemed ordered and coordinated, so were they?

I truly have no idea, the choice seems to be an elite group of politicians and leaders who all think the same, all owe their allegiance not to their country but a ‘higher cause’ and who all talked with each other and came to the same conclusions about what the problem was, and how to react to it.

The other choice is, there is some organisation. family, group or person who is in charge and they have an army of willing servants in nearly every government, every medical body and every other authority in every western nation who will act on the orders received, no matter how damaging the orders will be.

There could be more options but I can’t think of any, any suggestions? If No1 choice is correct the only way out is to replace our elites completely with sortition of similar and ban all international treaties and bodies. If it’s No2, well we need James Bond and a new elite.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/psywars-fifth-generation-warfare

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 5, 2023 7:21 am

Albo getting serious. Chortle, from the Hun:

Anthony Albanese will be hitting back at critics of the proposed First Nations Voice to parliament during an impassioned plea for Australians to back the cause.

Speaking at the Chifley Research Centre Conference on Sunday, the Prime Minister will urge Australians to support a referendum to enshrine an Indigenous voice in the Constitution.

Australians will vote in a referendum later this year on whether the constitution should be amended to create an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander body to provide advice to the parliament of the day on policies affecting Indigenous people.

Mr Albanese is set to explain during his speech how there would be clauses to ensure “mechanics for the Voice won’t be written into Constitution.”

“The Referendum Working Group have already outlined some clear fundamentals,” he will explain in a speech seen by NCA NewsWire ahead of the conference.

“The Voice won’t administer funding. It will not deliver programs.

“It will not have any kind of veto power over decision-making.”

It’s understood more information will become clearer later in the year.

Mr Albanese compared the vagueness of the proposed clauses with that of Parliament’s powers to make laws on the country’s defence, as outlined in the Constitution.

“It doesn’t spell-out the size of the ADF, or where it should be based or what sort of defence hardware we should have,” Mr Albanese states.

“And just as well – that section of the Constitution doesn’t even mention the air force, for the very good reason that it became law before the first powered flight.”

He will explain how the authors of Federation understood that it was up to the government, parliament and the people to “deal with the detail and implementation through legislation.”

“The Constitution contains the power and then parliament uses its democratic authority to build the institution and renovate it as needed.

“At this year’s referendum – Australians will be voting on the principle.” (insert Denis Denuto)

His comments come after increasing criticism of the clauses proposed by the government for the First Nations Voice, calling for specifics to be clarified before a referendum is to be considered.

Liberal Opposition leader Peter Dutton recently wrote a letter with 15 questions to Mr Albanese, asking for further clarification on the Voice to parliament, after attending a referendum working group on Thursday.

“Australians deserve to be informed before voting at a referendum,” a Liberal Party spokesman said.

Shadow attorney-general Julian Leeser also urged the Albanese government to deal with the Opposition Leader’s “reasonable questions” about the Voice.

Mr Albanese will state during his speech on Sunday there are people pushing “misinformation” online and accuses them of “drumming up outrage, trying to start a culture war.”

“That’s an inevitable consequence of trying to achieve change,” he states.

“There are always those who want to create confusion and provoke division, to try and stall progress.

“But moments of national decision, such as this referendum, are also an opportunity for our people to show their best qualities: their generosity, their sense of fairness, their optimism for the future.

“That’s why I’m optimistic for the success of the referendum – because I’ve always been optimistic about the character of the Australian people.” (oh really?)

calli
calli
February 5, 2023 7:24 am

Since it was mentioned in dispatches last night, here’s Nina.

Apparently it is no more.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 5, 2023 7:26 am

Chinese deputy foreign minister was in Russia for the last couple of days.
I wonder what terms of trade he delivered to Lavrov.

caveman
caveman
February 5, 2023 7:37 am

Mr Albanese will state during his speech on Sunday there are people pushing “misinformation” online and accuses them of “drumming up outrage, trying to start a culture war.”

Elbow race baiting.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
February 5, 2023 7:42 am

Rosie I don’t have to watch every cent, I shop at Aldi so I don’t contribute to the Colesworth rip off. I spend no more than $100 a month at colesworth only because of specific things that Aldi don’t have. Colesworth are having more of their own brands that in the majority are a poor imitation. I have done some work for both companies and thought them both toxic. The sort of people in management would sell their own grandmother.

calli
calli
February 5, 2023 7:42 am

That was a great WIP Tom. My favourites:

Useful

Quite so

On the glasses of water meme, they forgot the empty glass.

“Opportunist.”

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 5, 2023 7:45 am

Thanks for posting those two articles BB. If the referendum fails and I hope it will, it will give them (polllimuppetts and the meja) an opportunity to abuse the electorate- rascist, redneck, unedjucated etc etc. I always vote no in referendums- if the politicians/pubes/meja want it, it must be bad for us.

Anal’s proving it’s possible to be worse than Scummo.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 5, 2023 7:47 am

At the risk of repeating myself, universities incubate and cosset rubbish like Chalmers, Anal and Emerson. They have a lot to answer for.

calli
calli
February 5, 2023 7:49 am

“The Voice won’t administer funding. It will not deliver programs.

“It will not have any kind of veto power over decision-making.”

Then what the hell is it? A payroll for useless moochers?

Probably the safest option, if it wasn’t for inevitable mission creep.

Win
Win
February 5, 2023 7:51 am

Black Ball 6.47am . Piers Ackerman Jim Chalmers economy plans not told or discussedbefore the election. Just like Joe Biden hiding in the basement Albernesie refusing to answer questions. The same tactic now being used to get a referendum on the Voice The republic by stealth. Tell them nothing and we can do what we want when we get it. Glove puppet men.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 5, 2023 7:53 am

I have done some work for both companies and thought them both toxic. The sort of people in management would sell their own grandmother.

I found Woolworths absolutely horrible to deal with right down to store managers. Coles not so bad.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 5, 2023 7:58 am

Tell them nothing and we can do what we want when we get it.

or tell outright lies and do the opposite of what was promised

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 5, 2023 7:59 am

or call them ‘non core promises’

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 5, 2023 8:01 am

Robert Sewellsays:
February 5, 2023 at 1:27 am
Grey Ranga:

Dr F I remember in the early 60’s all of a sudden everything came with so much packaging. It’s worse now. In lots of cases the packaging costs more than the product.

It had to happen just to cut the shoplifting down to a tolerable amount.

Back when Boob Carr was NSW Premier, je appeared on the teev reprimanding food manufacturers for excessive packaging roooning the ‘vironment. A few days later, there was a food contamination blackmail incident. Carr appeared on the teev, demanding tamper-evident packaging for all food products.

Tom
Tom
February 5, 2023 8:04 am

From Piers Ackerman’s Sunday column (reproduced above by Black Ball):

An account of his [Dr Jim Cairns’] address to students at the ANU written by former Age economics writer Tony Thomas…

Tony Thomas has now become the contributor I rate No. 1 at Quadrant, specialising in putting mad leftwing dogmas under the microscope — like the blowtorch he applies to the ABC on February 2.

Gabor
Gabor
February 5, 2023 8:04 am

GreyRanga says:
February 5, 2023 at 7:42 am

Aldi is alright for most basics and that’s what they’re professed to be for.
It is s bit of an inconvenience to have to go to a different shop to get special stuff, but then you don’t get your milk at the butchers either.

Dot
Dot
February 5, 2023 8:12 am

Mike Rowe on men not wanting dirty jobs & rewarding jobs like oyster pearling, indigenous liaison officer and marine (mammal?) hunting.

https://youtu.be/mDBM8lwVmQo

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 5, 2023 8:15 am

Swimming with shark food probably isn’t ever a good idea.

Whilst we all hope never to be in the position of responding to an event like this, might I make a few points:

1) CPR is not a magic bullet for ‘waking up dead people’ – its specifically intended to tide people over until a stopped heart is restarted. Despite this, it is reflexively applied in blood loss situations where there is no prospect of success because it does not address the problem (blood loss).
2) We learned in Iraq (again – as per every war) that limb bleeding can kill you and tourniquets work.
3) A promising technique for controlling severe ‘lower half’ bleeding without a tourniquet is to simply kneel with all your weight over the umbilicus of the victim – I published on this previously https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/prehospital-and-disaster-medicine/article/abs/prehospital-external-aortic-compression-for-temporizing-exsanguinating-subdiaphragmatic-hemorrhage-a-promising-technique-but-with-challenges-four-illustrative-cases-including-two-survivors/C0E5100462A937FB6A506627A28C75DB

I dont have a free download link but an google search on ‘External Aortic Compression’ brings up some hits.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 5, 2023 8:17 am

Flying Duk:

Women comprise many, if not the majority, of parents who murder their children if I remember correctly.

Also noted is the significant presence of a mother (exhibiting major elements of Muchausens by Proxy last seen during the 90’s) doing the hand patting and supporting the poor damn kid who is to be manipulated and mutilated.

and often in the background is the schleb displaying all the flaccid masculinity which is so attractive to toxic feminity

mem
mem
February 5, 2023 8:18 am

Looked at the weather forecast for today on the Elders site which is drawn from BOM. For my area it states,” near zero chance of rain” then on the adjacent icons signifying rain, 40% chance. Then icon showing less than 1mm. And these weather people can forecast climate for decades to come. PS It has now started to rain.

P
P
February 5, 2023 8:22 am

GENDER CONFUSION IN AUSTRALIA’S CATHOLIC SCHOOLS
by Dan Guernsey
2 . 3 . 23

In September, the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference released “Created and Loved: A Guide for Catholic Schools on Identity and Gender.” While the document has thoughtful and salient points regarding gender identity, it also recommends that Catholic schools use the preferred names and pronouns of children suffering from gender dysphoria, providing “flexibility with uniform expectations.”

Johnny Rotten
February 5, 2023 8:27 am

There may not be a second planet but there are plenty of other supermarket chains, which I’m sure carnivorous Germans will avail themselves of. GWGB.

There is also that new fangled Retail Outlet called a ‘Butchers’. Could be well worth a ‘butchers’ at least. Cockney rhyming slang. ‘Butchers Hook’ = ‘Look’………………

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 8:29 am

Tom at 8:04 – it takes a while. Most get there in the end. Maybe even Gittins, Kohler and Alberscreechi? I suspect Dumpster will run out before his taxpayer sponsored super.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 8:35 am

Swimming with shark food probably isn’t ever a good idea.

A lot of the locals stopped surfing around Margaret River when the Salmon were running. Being from Perth we didn’t have that luxury. I suspect there are more sharks around now. You are in the water? You are potentially lunch.

Johnny Rotten
February 5, 2023 8:36 am

China’s Balloon is all Posturing

From Armstrong Economics –

“The Chinese Balloon is a surveillance balloon. It is meant more for intimidation. It is unlikely that it really poses a national security threat. There is also one flying over Latin America. Joe Biden’s response was immediately to shoot it down. He was warned that it is too big and would possibly create a debris field that would harm civilians for no reason. The Chinese did the same when Trump came to power. He knew it was just intimidation and gave no order to try to shoot it down.

It flew over Montana which is the #1 target to eliminate our major intercontinental missiles that would point to China. So from that perspective, it had targeted sensitive areas but everyone in the world knows where those missiles are at.

Biden has shot it down once it made it to the Atlantic. Any information would have been transmitted back already. So this too was a measure of Bravado for the PR value.

This is just intimidation. It seems to have worked for Secretary of State Antony Blinken abruptly canceled a high-stakes Beijing trip aimed at supposedly easing U.S.-China tensions after the US has done everything it can to make matters worse. Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan was stupid. By the US making such a grand stand against China over Taiwan, they have absolutely now guaranteed that China will take Taiwan. Pelosi went just before the Chinese election which only guaranteed Xi’s reelection.

I do not know if there is something in the water in California that seems to make the politicians there lose all understanding of war and intimidation. Now the Republican McCarthy is showing that he too is just acting irrationally and poking China to ensure it MUST now take Taiwan. He announced a Taiwan trip simply because Pelosi did it, and it will do nothing but ensure a war that the USA would lose. Because China warned McCarthy, then he has to certainly go,

McCarthy has now come out and said that China cannot tell him where to go. So he now must go to Taiwan as a matter of gamesmanship, but that works both ways. Pelosi’s trip and now McCarthy’s trip are both doing the same to China. The US pretending it will defend Taiwan when we cannot is absurd and it then forces China to invade for the very same reason McCarthy is saying they cannot tell him where to go. McCarthy is part of the uni-party where Democrats and Republicans will act ONLY in the self-interest of the government.

China has come out and declared that its people should be ready to invade Taiwan by 2027. The Air Force general told everyone to be prepared for war with China by 2025. Even just looking at the ECM from the start of Taiwan, this is the second wave of 51.6 years and the third wave peaked on January 13th, 2023 (2023.036). That was the week when China staged a massive drill against Taiwan which was three days after a US Navy destroyer transited the Taiwan Strait in a “freedom of navigation” operation which prompted the reaction from China.

All of this poking China only forces war. Just as McCarthy now views he must go since China told him not to, China will respond by invading or they will appear weak. This is like kids pretending to be tough in a schoolyard. The emotions are the same and it becomes a matter of pride.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/china/chinas-balloon-is-all-posturing/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 5, 2023 8:39 am

Then what the hell is it? A payroll for useless moochers?

Which is why people like Dodson and white academics are pushing for it.
Can anyone point me to anything positive that Dodson has achieved, other than to line his pockets?

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 8:41 am

duk – apparently one guy surfing got a fin chop to the artery near the groin and just bled out, they could not stop it. I wasn’t there fortunately. I wonder whether that would have helped.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 5, 2023 8:41 am

I have an arrangement with sharks.

I don’t swim in the ocean, and they don’t come into my lounge room.

So far, it’s worked out fine.

Cassie of Sydney
February 5, 2023 8:47 am

“Swimming with shark food probably isn’t ever a good idea.
I remember a Tasmanian mother of quads getting killed by a shark swimming with seals.
Very sad for everyone involved.”

Agree. When I was young my parents always said to us the following….

1. Never swim at unpatrolled beaches
2. Never swim at dawn/dusk and at night
3. Never swim where there are anglers about because that usually means that if there are small fish about, there will be big fish about too
4. Never swim if you see seals or dolphins swimming about, they are mega shark attractors. Sharks love munching on seals
5. Never swim in river estuaries
6. Overcast days is “sharkie” weather
7. Never swim with dogs

Very sad what happened to the young girl in Fremantle. Apparently she was on a jet ski and decided to jump in so as to swim with dolphins. Unwise.

No doubt there are Green activist scum on Twitter and other social media today doing what they usually do when a shark attack happens. I remember what they did after a girl was killed by a shark near Albany WA a few years ago. They celebrated. Aren’t they so kind and compassionate, to sharks? Greens and radical environmentalists really take their Malthusian beliefs to grotesquely extreme levels.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 5, 2023 8:48 am

calli says:
February 5, 2023 at 7:42 am

That was a great WIP Tom. My favourites:

Useful

Quite so

On the glasses of water meme, they forgot the empty glass.

“Opportunist.”

calli,

your links come up with

Error 1011 Ray ID: 794699337c58aaff • 2023-02-04 21:46:20 UTC
Access denied
What happened?

The owner of this website (www.powerlineblog.com) does not allow hotlinking to that resource (/ed-assets/2023/02/Screen-Shot-2023-01-28-at-12.01.31-PM.png).

Interesting to see if my favourite works as just an address rather than imbedded link

comment image

testing

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 5, 2023 8:49 am

comment image

yes it does

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 8:49 am

KD – surfing has given me some of the greatest rushes on the planet. And I was never even much good at it. There is a great biography Barbarian Days that goes some way to explaining it. It is a couple of inches thick.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 5, 2023 8:51 am

US defense officials confirmed to Fox News an F-22 stealth jet fired an AIM-9 Sidewinder that brought down the Chinese surveillance balloon. The F-22 was based out of Langley Air Force Base in Virginia.

For the military buffs here – at first glance, the weapon reportedly used here (Sidewinder) seemed unlikely as the Sidewinder has an infra-red seeker and a balloon is unlikely to be hot enough to track. A quick google (eek, I know) however reveals that the AIM 9c was a variant with radar guidance.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 5, 2023 8:52 am

https://nypost.com/2023/02/04/chinese-spy-balloon-reportedly-shot-down-over-atlantic-ocean/

Interesting Point made by commenter

Trying to save face upon completion of the Chinese mission. They got all the data they needed.

They also did it in a way were the equipment will not be recoverable in the ocean.

They literally did everything that favored China and trying to spin it now about debris fields. Montana is not very populated and they knew about it well before it got to Alaska. This is a NATIONAL DISGRACE!

Indolent
Indolent
February 5, 2023 8:53 am

Just read that Robert Malone essay that someone linked to earlier, pretty good stuff. He starts out saying that all the current big things happening in the world for the past few years have an authority in charge, then he proposes several possibilities but then says no to them, after that he discusses the methods used by this ‘authority’ and the outcomes but doesn’t say who he thinks is in charge.

You forgot the bit about the military running the whole Covid op. That was certainly true here with our treasonous government and it was shown some time ago that the all the pandemic planning (a dozen versions of Event 201 going back decades) starting with the US military. As he said, we are at war but one where we don’t even know who the enemy is, although it seems pretty clear that the evil sludge is leaking out of the US. Five Eyes seems to be the perfect vehicle for reciprocal spying.

flyingduk
flyingduk
February 5, 2023 8:56 am

I forwarded Robert Malone’s piece on 5th Gen warfare to a few colleagues yesterday. https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/psywars-fifth-generation-warfare

One replied that the final 4 words of his closing sentence were chilling …..“The world that many of us believed existed no longer exists – if it ever did

My reply ‘It never existed – although for most of us, it still does…’

Indolent
Indolent
February 5, 2023 8:56 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 8:59 am

Oh God. Macca is back from his WEB. *click*

sfw
sfw
February 5, 2023 9:02 am

Indolent – “we are at war but one where we don’t even know who the enemy is”

Exactly, but how can we find out? I find it difficult to understand how any person or organisation has such sway and power that they can direct almost every elite level in all fields and no one breaks ranks and talks about it. The few pollies and medical elites who did take different views on what should’ve happened in covid must have been approached by this mysterious controlling person/body but if so they say nothing about it. The Great Barrington authors for example, top people in their field yet they broke ranks, lost a lot of influence and prestige yet if they were approached by the cabal, they say nothing about it.

I’m going with the view that all our elites have the same education, identify as internationals rather than citizens of their own country and generally think the same or do so to stay with the in crowd. So how to break up this monopoly of thought and allegiance?

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 5, 2023 9:06 am

Where there are dolphins, there are sharks was the rule.
It’s more a hunting together behaviour than sharks looking for a dolphin snack.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 5, 2023 9:08 am

The US military shot down the Chinese spy balloon that floated through U.S. airspace on Saturday, as Americans learned President Biden and his administration had known about the incursion for a week — but kept it secret, fearing it would derail Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s planned meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing.

A pair of American fighter jets circled the surveillance craft as it neared the coast of South Carolina, then pierced it with a missile once it was safely over the Atlantic Ocean, video showed.

The huge white orb – as large as three school buses, experts said – deflated in a puff of white smoke, its remains trailing behind as its heavy solar panels and surveillance equipment plunged down into the sea below.

But Republicans expressed “outrage” over the president’s prior refusal to act.

“Communist China’s surveillance balloon violates international law and threatens our homeland,” Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-Staten Island) told The Post.

“It’s an outrage that the Biden Administration spotted this balloon days ago as it was flying over the Aleutian Islands and did nothing about … this unacceptable act of aggression by the CCP,” she said.

Team Biden became aware of the balloon on Jan. 28, Bloomberg reported, when it was spotted over Alaska.

The US military tracked it as it flew into Canadian airspace, then re-entered American skies on Tuesday. The next day, Biden received a detailed briefing on the balloon and its course, attended by Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley.

Sources told Bloomberg that Milley and Austin argued against shooting the craft down due to the danger its debris could pose to the public. Biden initially wanted it destroyed, but acquiesced, according to the report.

But the president also chose to conceal the crisis from the American public. Instead, his administration sought an explanation from the Chinese embassy in Washington — while making the finishing touches on plans for Blinken’s diplomatic visit to China on Sunday.

The administration finally came clean to the public Thursday, after the Billings Gazette, a local Montana paper, published photos of the floating orb and the story jumped into the national media.

Comments Not Kind

– American expert on China — Gordon Chang said this balloon IS collecting intel on the United States. BUT it is not about communications or other sensitive intelligence. They are doing this to TEST the Biden administration’s resolve to defend America when it is threatened. Biden FAILED. Now they know they can attack Taiwan and move against our allies in Asia with no consequence. Japan, the Philippines, South Korea AND Taiwan should be very worried.

– JB’s Presidency in a nutshell;

Conceals & denies his business dealing with his son. FBI / DOJ cover up.

Conceals & denies any wrongdoing with his documents everywhere. Didn’t find out until the mid-terms.

Conceals a China Spy Balloon as it first entered US Air Space. The real ? Is, if it got off path, what was its real intended path.

Didn’t he run from his basement on the moniker of transparency, unity and what ever came out of his lying mouth.

So, people, what is going on today that we’re going to discover in a month or so.

– Come on, man! When it doesn’t involve them, it’s all good; looting, arson, vandalism, and mayham. When it involves them, cry for months about how scared they were of a huy in a buffalo outfit, call in the armed National Guard, put up chainlink fences, hunt everyone down in every nook and cranny of the U.S., and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law for years to come. It’s all about them and their safety.

– So the country got dragged into Russia Collussion for 4 years with Trump without any physical evidence, while in reality the country was sold down the river to China. We have ample physical evidence of China collussion and crickets!

The whole plan was a classic ‘always accuse the other person of things you are doing.” Media complicit in the whole thing which is terrifying.

– We cannot attribute this obvious intrusion to Biden’s mental deficiencies which are obvious and profound. China put $150 million in the Hunter Biden investment fund when Joe was VP. From that they have gotten about $14 million per year for over ten years. China owns Joe Biden. They pay more for him than do we. Money rules in the House of Biden.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley wanted Instructions from the Chinese before he could decide what to do

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 5, 2023 9:08 am

Lol did he get someone else to write this turgid shit, can’t imagine he said these words because he is quite stupid. In the same vein as article before, James Campbell in the Hun:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will make a passionate plea for Australians to support the Voice in a speech ahead of the return Parliament’s return on Monday, saying he is “open to improvements or alterations” to his proposed change to the constitution.

In an address to Labor’s official think tank, the Chifley Research Centre, the PM will also warn Australians need to “heed the warning” about the fragility of democracy shown by the 2021 riots that saw the US Capitol occupied by a mob in 2021 and recent events in Brazil.

“Our democracy is a great and enduring national achievement, a marker of what it means to be an Australian … but democracy can never be taken for granted,” the PM argues.

Mr Albanese argues “the most compelling argument in favour of democracy, is not an abstract or a theoretical one” but “governing through purpose” and “demonstrating the capacity of government to improve lives”.

Implementing reforms that change Australia for the better through programs and policies that open the doors of opportunity, as well as investing in national resilience and self-reliance, depends on people understanding where you are coming from.

Speaking of the 1967 referendum which changed the constitution so that it henceforth included indigenous Australians in the numbers of the people of the Commonwealth, Mr Albanese says “our generation can go one better” in this year’s referendum.

He says “instead of removing a provision that no longer speaks for who we are, we can make a change that speaks for the future we seek to build”.

Unlike 1967, which removed a stain on the constitution, in this referendum Australians have the chance to add something positive, “to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people in our nation’s birth certificate”.

The time, he argues, to do this is now, “six years after the Uluru Statement from Heart, 56 years after the 1967 referendum” and “122 years after Federation,” asking, “if not now, when?”

Speaking of the wording he unveiled at the Garma Festival last year, the PM says “we haven’t seen any suggested changes to the wording yet” but is open to improvements or alterations: “But the substance – the principles of recognition and consultation – will not change”.

And while there will “in the course of the year … be more information for people to examine … the mechanics of the Voice won’t be written into the constitution”, saying “that’s not how it works”.

Hitting back at demands by Opposition Leader Peter Dutton for more detail on Voice ahead of this year’s vote, the PM likens it to the way the constitution gives federal parliament the power to make laws for the “naval and military defence of the Commonwealth”. (Head scratch)

That document “doesn’t spell-out the size of the ADF, or where it should be based or what sort of defence hardware we should have, and just as well – that section of the Constitution doesn’t even mention the air force, for the very good reason that it became law before the first powered flight.” (WTF?)

The authors of the Federation understood, he argues, “as servants of democracy – that it was for government, parliament and the people to deal with the detail and the implementation, through legislation”.

FMD what a vomit inducing read. Full of nothingness.

Indolent
Indolent
February 5, 2023 9:08 am

Did anyone watch the Gonzalo Lira clip about NATO I linked yesterday? He thinks that the US knows that the Ukraine war is lost and want to keep NATO together by finding a new external energy, namely China. Not so out there, considering whats been on the “approved” news lately.

Waltz: Chinese Spy Balloon ‘a Sputnik Moment’

He also has a rather individual opinion on the balloon.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 5, 2023 9:09 am

Like the Leader he is, Albanese turns culture wars up to 11.

Albanese says Indigenous voice next step in reconciliation and opponents ‘trying to start a culture war’

In a speech on Sunday, PM to argue referendum comes at a time of increasing polarisation when democracy needs to be ‘protected’

Referencing the 2021 Capitol insurrection in Washington and the recent uprising in Brazil – violence triggered because people “had fallen headlong into poisonous conspiracy theories” – Albanese will tell a thinktank on Sunday that leaders need to “heed the warning” of those events, and take steps to safeguard democratic liberalism, according to an advance copy of his remarks.

Translation 1: Reconcile now, or Australian democracy goes up in flames.

Translation 2: If you don’t support my The Voice project you are a poisonous racist nutjob wanting to bring violence to Australia.

Dangerous new depths.
A surprisingly grotesque little man.

Miltonf
Miltonf
February 5, 2023 9:09 am

Can anyone point me to anything positive that Dodson has achieved, other than to line his pockets?

wore a lot of silly hats

Indolent
Indolent
February 5, 2023 9:09 am

External enemy, not energy

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 5, 2023 9:10 am

Access denied

Yeah, I’ve been hitting that for both the bare url and for an embedded link. Other Cats don’t get it, so I suspect it’s browser or machine related.

Btw, I still get weird caching problems with Dover’s Cat. It had occurred once a while ago and Dover was able to solve it then, but it’s come back again. Again it’s browser and machine related, for example I recall people using Edge don’t have a problem even though on Brave I do. Not to worry, I found a way around it which is workable.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 5, 2023 9:13 am

Indolent says:
February 5, 2023 at 8:54 am

Whether it’s illegals or balloons, Joe Biden fails to protect the U.S.

Duty to protect? Sure, Biden protects Hunter now from the inevitable results of how he was raised the way some divorced fathers shower gifts on their kids to assuage their guilt complexes at being absent from their lives. Tucker Carlson had an even better comparison, though in this piece described by Thomas Lifson — Biden protects Hunter from the inevitable consequences of his dissolute actions the same way Saddam Hussein protected Uday and Qusay from any repercussions from their out-of-control behavior. The time to protect was when the kids were growing up, not after they became runaway trains without brakes.

His entire orientation is about protecting himself politically through public relations moves, not about protecting the country for real, which is his job as president.

They are redolent of Gen. Mark Milley, who liked to wear his many medals on his overweight frame, similar to a Venezuelan general, yet was the height of incompetence in that Afghanistan pullout as well (another unmanly failure to protect) as in his bizarre phone conversations with a Chinese military leader assuring that he’d made sure they’d have nothing to worry about from his commander-in-chief.

Whose side was he on?

We see the same Milleyism with the balloon. Duty to protect? Only to themselves.

These aren’t men, they are what Marine sergeants call ‘maggots.’ And this is a sorry pattern we are seeing over and over with the Biden regime, a studied failure to protect the U.S. from any kind of danger, with only P.R. to throw like biscuits at the groundings.

Louis Litt
February 5, 2023 9:16 am

Read Sunday Mail this morning re Stephen Dank saying he was set up and he never used a particular drug but another one.
Why was he “set up”.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 9:16 am

Like the Leader he is, Albanese turns culture wars up to 11.

Dangerous new depths.
A surprisingly grotesque little man.

Show me the Trot at 18. I’ll show you the man.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 5, 2023 9:18 am

Swimming with shark food probably isn’t ever a good idea.

Particularly when the shark food in question is fully attuned to its environment and can bugger off far quicker than you can.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 5, 2023 9:21 am

The Liars are often overcome with the need for bipartisanship when they assume the Treasury benches.

bespoke
bespoke
February 5, 2023 9:23 am

If your base political economic philosophy is that governments should not be funding the media then liking some show(s) on the ABC/SBS is irrelevant.

Also SBS along with the many government services have redused the need for integration.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 5, 2023 9:23 am

Which is why people like Dodson and white academics are pushing for it.
Can anyone point me to anything positive that Dodson has achieved, other than to line his pockets?

Some time ago, there was a feud between two tribes in the North West of Western Australia. The Dodson Brothers offered to negotiate a truce. They were told they had no standing under tribal law, and if they didn’t mind their own business, they faced being speared in the legs as tribal punishment.

Black Ball
Black Ball
February 5, 2023 9:24 am

Louis Litt I give you this from the Hun:

Sports scientist Stephen Dank – the architect of Essendon’s disastrous 2012 supplements program – insists he was the victim of a “set up”.

Footy’s greatest scandal erupted 10 years ago today, when Bombers’ chiefs walked into AFL House and “self-reported” over the potential use of performance-enhancing drugs.

Dank was handed a lifetime ban in the fallout from the saga but has never admitted to administering the banned peptide, Thymosin Beta-4, to 34 Essendon players.

In a sworn affidavit lodged with the Administrative Appeals Tribunal as part of a last-ditch legal bid to clear the players’ names, Dank declares there was “literally … no evidence of wrongdoing against me at Essendon”.

A decade on from the devastating drugs saga, Dank told the Herald Sun this week: “I have never given up hope that the players and I will be cleared. No-one should have been subjected to the lies and corruption that the 35 of us were exposed to”.

Ex-AFL boss Andrew Demetriou, in charge of the league at the start of the saga, declined to be interviewed about his recollections of footy’s most tumultuous period.

The face of the scandal, James Hird, declared: “I’ve moved on in my life.”

Former ASADA chief executive Ben McDevitt said: “I played it right down the line … my job was to apply the rules.”

League chief executive Gillon McLachlan, the AFL’s lead negotiator, told the Herald Sun he would not comment.

In his affidavit, Dank said the conspiracy against him began in May 2012 when customs officials confiscated his mobile phone after a trip to Qatar “on the spurious grounds that they were looking for pornography”.

“Customs downloaded everything from my phone. There was no pornography (but) to the best of my memory, there were nearly 7000 text messages,” Dank said.

Nine days later, Dank was hauled in for secret questioning by federal government criminal investigators and grilled “for about seven hours”.

“It was a compulsory hearing, where I was not only compelled to attend, but also not permitted by law, to discuss,” he said.

“Suffice to say, when coupled with customs confiscating my phone … I believed I was being set up.”

Dank says just one of the 7000 SMS messages on his phone referred to “Thymosin Beta-4” (unrelated to Essendon) but alleges the texts were later manipulated by investigators from the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority.

No positive drug tests were ever registered by Essendon players, who were initially cleared of doping by an AFL tribunal, before the Court of Arbitration for Sport overturned the decision in January 2016 on appeal by the World Anti-Doping Agency.

“The AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal found me not guilty of administering or attempting to administer Thymosin Beta-4 to various Essendon players, and ruled that I had not assisted, nor encouraged, nor aided, nor abetted nor covered up administration of the peptide,” Dank said.

“In my view, AFL deputy CEO Gill McLachlan, ASADA CEO Ben McDevitt and ASADA head investigator Aaron Walker knew, or should have known, that they literally had no evidence of wrongdoing against me at Essendon …”

Dank said the AFL’s 34-page charge sheet against Essendon coach James Hird, assistant coach Mark Thompson, footy manager Danny Corcoran and club doctor Bruce Reid “smashed the players’ confidentiality rights” and “contained scores of misrepresentations and “arguably lies”.

“I never took possession of Thymosin Beta-4 during the period under review at Essendon,” he said in the signed affidavit.

Essendon players signed consent forms in 2012 to be administered with ‘Thymosin’, which Dank and lawyers for the Bombers later said was the immunity booster Thymomodulin – not Thymosin Beta-4.

And despite former ASADA boss Ben McDevitt telling ABC radio in 2016 “there were over 100 text messages that unveiled a plan to source Thymosin Beta-4 for the purpose of doping the Essendon team”, Dank declared that “there wasn’t a single text to that effect”.

In another “unforgivable act”, Dank claimed an ASADA investigator told the Essendon players during their formal interviews that an associate had injected them, “at my request, with an unknown substance sourced over the counter in Mexico”.

“(The investigator) turned the players against me when he told the players that the substance could cause birth defects in their children.

“(He) lied in claiming the substance was bought in Mexico. The substance called Amino Lite was bought in El Paso, which is in the United States of America.

“It was incomprehensible and unconscionable for (the investigator) to have caused such fear amongst the players and their wives.”

During another interview with key witness Nima Alavi from the Como Compounding Pharmacy, Dank claimed that ASADA “implied that I broke into Mr Alavi’s premises during the night and forged documents.

“As a result of those lies, WADA’s lawyer and the presiding CAS ‘judge’ metaphorically speaking referred to me as a bank robber during the hearing …

“The extent of the phony ASADA/AFL injection campaign is best illustrated by the public statements by then AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou … McLachlan, former WADA president John Fahey and then … Mr McDevitt.

“Mr Demetriou estimated that the players received 10,000-plus injections; Mr McLachlan suggested 4000-plus injections; Mr Fahey said 3000-plus and Mr McDevitt suggested hundreds if not thousands.”

Dank’s affidavit was filed as part of a Freedom of Information dispute in the AAT led by former Australian Test cricketer and economist Bruce Francis.

Francis is seeking the release of key documents presented to the independent Anti-Doping Rule Violation Panel in 2014 as part of ASADA’s pursuit of the Essendon 34.

“It is in the players’, the public’s and my interests, to release the documents that will reveal the truth about the case ASADA made to the ADRVP that it was possible 34 players were administered Thymosin Beta-4,” Dank said.

Dank worked at the AFL-controlled Gold Coast Suns before his time at Essendon, supplied substances to Geelong in its 2009 premiership season (the calf’s blood extract Actovegin, which is legal, from a company in Ukraine) and was employed by Melbourne when the drugs scandal broke on February 5, 2013.

His affidavit refers to a 2019 Herald Sun report which revealed ASADA’s “Check Your Substances” website — which athletes and coaches are encouraged to inspect prior to using supplements — did not flag Thymosin Beta-4 as banned until the afternoon of February 4, 2013.

The status update came on the same day the AFL called Essendon chairman David Evans about a secret investigation into the club’s supplements program, prompting the Bombers to “self-report” to the league.

“The evidence of a stitch-up is compelling,” Melbourne scientist Bob O’Dea said at the time.

In a 2019 poll of Herald Sun readers, 81 per cent agreed there should have been a royal commission into the handling of the Essendon doping scandal.

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 5, 2023 9:27 am

With Sleazy and his govt, I reflexively think of this classic song…

https://youtu.be/29E6GbYdB1c

lotocoti
lotocoti
February 5, 2023 9:28 am

an F-22 stealth jet fired an AIM-9 Sidewinder that brought down the Chinese surveillance balloon.

It’ll now take ten years and $230 million to develop a fifth generation balloon kill mark.

Indolent
Indolent
February 5, 2023 9:30 am

The Great Barrington authors for example, top people in their field yet they broke ranks, lost a lot of influence and prestige yet if they were approached by the cabal, they say nothing about it.

I don’t think anyone goes around in a jacket labeled “cabal”. How would they know. Just someone expressing a different view, something perfectly normal for a normal person. And what mostly happens anyway is that, rather than being approached, they’re attacked, reputationally and otherwise. Just ask Duk. Dr. Malone had a few words to say about it too. I think a lot of it is infiltration over years and decades. What Soros and others do, influence buying.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
February 5, 2023 9:30 am

Washington Times – U.S. shoots down Chinese spy balloon over Atlantic Ocean

From the Comments

– They probably transmitted pictures throughout the entire flight.

They got what they wanted,and Brandon help cover it up. Time to collect his 10%

– Brandon destroys evidence with an F-22.

He has outdone Hillary!

– That balloon could have been dumping a new Wohan virus over the whole country killing millions but perhaps that was the whole plan. The fact that they waited until it was out at sea and unrecoverable is also suspect! CHINA JOE NEEDS TO GO!!!

– Joe also thanked the Chinese Fishing Trawler Crew for rescuing all the debris before any marine life were harmed.

– Good job, Brandon. The balloon traversed the entire U.S. before being destroyed. Unbelievable.

– No, Biden is not “going to take care of it.” If downed over the ocean the payload will be lost. If downed over the vast empty spaces of Montana, it might have been recovered and some valuable information recovered. Biden is simply a dope.

Indolent
Indolent
February 5, 2023 9:32 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
February 5, 2023 9:32 am

In Thanks WA, Thanks news:Mental health checks for WA’s gun owners to become mandatory under changes to firearms laws

Twenty people died from gunshot wounds in the state last year, and Police Minister Paul Papalia said mental health issues were involved in at least half of those deaths.

“This isn’t the only solution. It’s not a guaranteed solution, but it’s more than what we do now,” Mr Papalia told the ABC.

Governments throughout Australia are going to look at this initiative with lust and envy.

The burning question is: Why why should Nanny State stop at guns? Why not regulate nutters in cars? Or loopers buying alcohol? Or weirdos going into shopping centres?

Or the mentally fragile getting themselves married and putting their partner in danger?

Indolent
Indolent
February 5, 2023 9:35 am

A worldwide call for data transparency: Show us the data!

We could end the debate on COVID vaccine safety instantly. All we need is the death-vax record data. But today, that data is being concealed by the health authorities in every jurisdiction. Here’s why

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