Open Thread – Tues 11 April 2023


Passage of the Jews through the Red Sea, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1891

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Winston Smith
April 14, 2023 9:19 pm

rickw:

Fantastic workmanship:

Envious +++

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:25 pm

To all those Cats thinking that Dr Mutton has supposedly received an emergency spine transplant, it’s too little, too late.

What we’ll allegedly be voting on later this year was always a coup d’etat (as opposed to an Auto-da-fé*) engineered by collectivists to end the seemingly interminable sham that is “Australian Parliamentary Democracy”.

If it gets up (and this time it won’t) then that’s the end of “The Australian Project”.

*Which is what they should deservedly be gifted with, culminating in the profound and mighty cleansing ritual that is HOP Time™. 🙂

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 14, 2023 9:26 pm

What happened to the Easter Islanders?
Anybody know?

They floated to the New World on rafts of matting and earth.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 14, 2023 9:29 pm

cohenite at 8.15:

Women who identified as mainly heterosexual, bisexual, or lesbian were twice as likely to report physical abuse by a partner as women who identified as exclusively heterosexual (24%, 29%, and 22%, versus 12%, respectively) (Szalacha et al. 2017)

Stand by for the outrage directed at violent lesbians by ponytailed, scantly-bearded print journos and the ABC.

Standing by…….

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 14, 2023 9:33 pm
Delta A
Delta A
April 14, 2023 9:34 pm

Nobody seemed interested so I snaffled it.

Well done, Speedbox!

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:35 pm

Dr Duk – I watched the Avi expose on twatter today and what you were subjected to was indisputable evidence that we exist in a banana republic.

You now need to go after the keystone cops that tried to frame you. Terminator style.

Although ideally you might stop appearing in public looking as though you’re chowing down on a persian cat.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
April 14, 2023 9:43 pm

Martin Armstrong’s entire philosophy is reproduced below for appropriate consumption:

Well, sir, there’s nothing on earth
Like a genuine, bona fide
Electrified, six-car monorail

What’d I say?
Monorail

What’s it called?
Monorail

That’s right! Monorail
Monorail
Monorail
Monorail!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
April 14, 2023 9:45 pm

Dot at 7:47.
………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 14, 2023 9:46 pm

Scratching my head and trying to think of the last time I heard this song.

Nothing Gonna Stop Us Now: To Go Back To The 80’s (You Will Not Regret It)

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:47 pm

Between 1904-1907, German military forces, called Schutztruppe, committed a genocide against indigenous people in Namibia

Cats, who was the German “philosopher” that made a prediction in the late 18th Century that the Krauts would eventually go ballistic and what was his legendary quote? I can’t find it and the google fu is not delivering.

Something along the lines of: “I fear that Germans will unleash some mighty previously unimagined destruction upon this planet in the next century” (allowing for lots of poetic licence) … 😕

Winston Smith
April 14, 2023 9:49 pm

Indolent:

The whole approach seems like murder/suicide on an industrial scale. But, of course, it makes perfect sense if the goal is to drastically reduce the human population. The level of insanity required to adhere to such a course is beyond my imagination but seems to be perfectly acceptable to those currently in positions of power.

It’s a 21st century Xhosa re enactment, and the ones who refused to indulge in the insanity were – in the main – slaughtered by the mad mobs who claimed they were delaying the rains by not killing their cows.
History is rhyming again.

Rabz
April 14, 2023 9:54 pm

Sacré bleu – that would be the 19th Century, Cats. It’s Friday night, again! 🙂

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 14, 2023 10:00 pm

Kids return to the streets in Alice Springs to run amok

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The girl looks about 14. “I’m drunk, f..k you,” she yells as we pass on the street.

Her mates laugh.

It’s 11.20pm on Thursday in Alice Springs, and the group of a dozen or so Indigenous children and early teens heads on towards the main drag of town.
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“Yeah, we drunk,” her friend calls back. “What the f..k for, bra,” she says as her friends continue laughing. “We’ll beat you, we’ll smash your car,” she adds as the gang cross the road.

Most of the kids are around 15, with some closer to 10 or 11. Three months on from our first reports revealing the extent of kids running wild in Alice Springs and it’s clear little has changed. Perhaps nothing.

Despite the promise of almost $300m in extra funding and new restrictions on alcohol sales, children are still on the streets late at night, on their own, playing cat and mouse with the cops – on the same day Peter Dutton flew out of town after kicking over a hornet’s nest of accusations and counter-accusations over rampant child sexual abuse.

The issue no one seemed to want to talk about was neglect.

Where are the parents?

Tonight, the gang comes across three wheelie bins that had already been upturned by another mob and started throwing shredding paper in the air like confetti. They soon get bored. As two kids saunter across the street, a car is forced to slam on its brakes to avoid hitting them. They barely notice. Neither would be older than 10.

A police paddy wagon pulls up. “Oi, are you mob going home?” an officer asks. “If I see you again in town, I’m going to drop you home.”

“I’m with my big sister,” the younger child says. Maybe.

They say they’re going to the bus. “Alright, go sit in the bus, I’m not going to see you in town,” the officer says, and drives on.

People in NT government-branded Toyota Landcruisers and not-for-profit branded minivans work hard but ineffectually to ferry kids home, using walkie-talkies to co-ordinate pickups and drop-offs.

Often, the service ends well before midnight; other times, it’s non-existent. When they do take children home, it’s often not long before the kids return.

On Friday, Labor MP for Lingiari Marion Scrymgour said politicians had to stop “pointing the finger at each other”.

“I think everyone in the territory, we’ve got to work together to resolve some of these issues,” she said.

Ms Scrymgour, whose seat has the nation’s largest Indigenous population, agreed there had “been inroads” into domestic and family violence.

“I think alcohol restrictions have given some respite to staff in the hospital system and police, there has been a reduction in the levels of alcohol-fuelled violence, and the presentations into the emergency room, there’s been changes there,” she says.

But in terms of youth crime, nothing has changed, she says.

“So what are people doing? There’s got to be some accountability here,” she said.

She called on Aboriginal leadership to “step up” and become “front and centre” of the issues. “We’ve all got to stop pussyfooting around this and look at the solution going forward. We’ve got to stop wasting the money and resources. I don’t think we’ve got the policy grunt or capacity within governments to … deal with this and that’s where I think the Aboriginal leadership needs to come into this.”

“Dad’s back in gaol, and Mum’s out of bed at seven, and got a can in her hand by nine.”

Rabz
April 14, 2023 10:09 pm

they are the same height, the angle of the shoe and the light gives it a different impression


That’s not her
That’s just the light
It’s only an image of her …
It’s just a trick of the light

Winston Smith
April 14, 2023 10:14 pm

Gabor:

Don’t understand, you mean you don’t actually have your Kindle books on your hard drive or On your phone or your eReader?
How do you read them when away from the internet?

I should have been more precise.
If you have them on your reader like I do, and they have auto update enabled, they can be overwritten by a newer version. I first tumbled to this when I realised the books were being ‘updated’ and covers being changed. I found it irritating because I recognised books by the covers – not necessarily by the titles. When I bought a new reader, the books data files couldn’t be copied to an SD card and transferred to the new reader. The entire library had to be downloaded over the net again.
Essentially I wanted my library on a central desktop and able to be also on a reader so I wouldn’t have to go through the process again. But that seems to be the old method. I can have them on a reader or the desktop – just not both.
When you go through the rights you have, they can be changed to whatever payment service Amazon wants and you have no recourse. They can, theoretically, change it to a pay per view model and even though you have paid for the original copy, you can still be charged. It’s entirely up to them and I do not trust Amazon to hold my sunk costs over my head.
That’s why I want to change my library to a PDF format – so I don’t lose them.

Winston Smith
April 14, 2023 10:19 pm

mem:

Unfortunately the kids and communities are suffering. There are ways of dealing with this stuff but now it’s become a no go zone and so nothing gets fixed. It will take a leader with courage, but it can be done. I don’t give up hope. Perhaps Dutton is that leader?

We always have hope, but the chances of effective action? Pretty close to zero.
Been there and done that. Had my efforts of trying to save babies – babies for Christs sake! – being starved to death because mum was too busy drinking to feed the kid!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
April 14, 2023 10:23 pm

Had my efforts of trying to save babies – babies for Christs sake! – being starved to death because mum was too busy drinking to feed the kid!

Babies being born with fetal alcohol syndrome, because Mum thinks that drinking while pregnant makes the children smaller and easier to deliver.

The fvcking Voice will do a fat load of good..

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 14, 2023 10:25 pm

rickw says: April 14, 2023 at 7:08 pm

Fantastic workmanship:

Riveting viewing!
No really, I’m always in awe of people showing extreme patience and skill in their work.

All the little tricks he has for getting exact fits are cool too.

Gabor
Gabor
April 14, 2023 10:28 pm

Winston Smith says:
April 14, 2023 at 10:14 pm

They can, theoretically, change it to a pay per view model and even though you have paid for the original copy, you can still be charged. It’s entirely up to them and I do not trust Amazon to hold my sunk costs over my head.
That’s why I want to change my library to a PDF format – so I don’t lose them.

OK, now I understand .

I don’t have a Kindle reader, I use my Android phone, and as soon as I download the books I connect the phone to the PC and transfer them, this way I could read it on the PC as well, there is an app ‘Kindle for PC’ you can download. Also every time they muck about with the Kindle reader you can simply re-copy the books from the PC.

Winston Smith
April 14, 2023 10:35 pm

Steve Trickler:

Good fun.

80s Movie Tribute (Don’t You Forget About Me)
Ha! Remember when we were supple?

Beertruk
Beertruk
April 14, 2023 10:41 pm

Black Ball:
April 14, 2023 at 5:42 pm
Off to Phillip Island tomorrow with the kidlets in tow. Going to watch the penguins among other things, youngest son wants to go fishing …’

Matey…load up the fishing gear…you know you want too… 😉

Cassie of Sydney
April 14, 2023 10:47 pm

“What happened to the Easter Islanders?
Anybody know?”

Before or after Europeans arrived? There is good evidence to prove that by the time Europeans arrived, Easter Island or “Rapa Nui ” was in decline, and this was probably because it was cut off and isolated from other human societies. It was a small island with limited resources and the end result was societal stagnation. I wrote a comment a day or two ago about the problems of societies that are isolated from other humans. Such isolation limits human advancement. Human history attests to the fact that we advance when peoples and societies collide/collude/conflict and collaborate. That’s how we advance, by sharing ideas, either through conflict or collaboration.

After Europeans arrived, the Easter Islander population was decimated due to two factors, one was the introduction of European diseases and the other was that many Rapa Nuis were forcibly enslaved and taken to South America. It’s a sad story.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 14, 2023 10:55 pm

Rabz inquires:

Cats, who was the German “philosopher” that made a prediction in the late 18th Century that the Krauts would eventually go ballistic and what was his legendary quote?

I had a feeling it was either Nietzsche or Jung, and DDG says
https://www.reddit.com/r/askphilosophy/comments/ah7a7w/is_it_true_that_nietzsche_predicted_the_world_war/?rdt=64454

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 14, 2023 11:01 pm

If you choose to work under your car or in a similar situation in OZ?

Remain vigilant over the next week. Take precautions.

4/14/2023 — Large M7.0 earthquake — Deep event below West Pacific — Major seismic unrest develops

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
April 14, 2023 11:08 pm

Rabz, was this it?
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/730395-for-some-time-now-our-whole-european-culture-has-been
“For some time now, our whole European culture has been moving with a tortured tension that is growing from decade to decade, as toward a catastrophe: restlessly, violently, headlong, like a river that wants to reach the end, that no longer reflects, that is afraid to reflect.”
? Friedrich Nietzsche, The Will to Power , 1901.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 14, 2023 11:12 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
April 14, 2023 at 10:47 pm
“What happened to the Easter Islanders?
Anybody know?”

Before or after Europeans arrived? There is good evidence to prove that by the time Europeans arrived, Easter Island or “Rapa Nui ” was in decline, and this was probably because it was cut off and isolated from other human societies. It was a small island with limited resources and the end result was societal stagnation. I wrote a comment a day or two ago about the problems of societies that are isolated from other humans. Such isolation limits human advancement. Human history attests to the fact that we advance when peoples and societies collide/collude/conflict and collaborate. That’s how we advance, by sharing ideas, either through conflict or collaboration.

After Europeans arrived, the Easter Islander population was decimated due to two factors, one was the introduction of European diseases and the other was that many Rapa Nuis were forcibly enslaved and taken to South America. It’s a sad story.

Most of the info on this island is MSM bullsh*t, lovely lady.

H B Bear
H B Bear
April 14, 2023 11:19 pm

Groogs mainlining the gluten tonight. Saturday morning should be a riot.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 14, 2023 11:35 pm

Had my efforts of trying to save babies – babies for Christs sake! – being starved to death because mum was too busy drinking to feed the kid!

The problem is going to be finding sufficient people with the skills and internal resources to do this. For the next 50 years.

Not 97.3% sure the Voice is going to provide the answer.

But Labor will be helped into power.
So there is that.

areff
areff
April 14, 2023 11:42 pm

Rabz, I think your quote may be Heine. This quote at his Wikipedia page:

…. German thunder is of true Germanic character; it is not very nimble, but rumbles along ponderously. Yet, it will come and when you hear a crashing such as never before has been heard in the world’s history, then you know that the German thunderbolt has fallen at last. At that uproar the eagles of the air will drop dead, and lions in the remotest deserts of Africa will hide in their royal dens. A play will be performed in Germany which will make the French Revolution look like an innocent idyll….

Rabz
April 14, 2023 11:42 pm

Colonel, it was someone I’d never heard of.

Especially not the Nyeechee or the Jung un.

I first saw it on the ol Cat.

Rabz
April 14, 2023 11:45 pm

Thanks areff, but that’s not it either.

It was short – one, two sentences max. Something like:

I foresee germans visiting great evil upon this world …

Rabz
April 14, 2023 11:48 pm

Apologies, areff – that may be it, but yet, I thought I read a more succinct version.

Rabz
April 14, 2023 11:55 pm

Wherever they burn books they will also, in the end, burn human beings.

We should forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.

die Heine.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
April 15, 2023 12:00 am

Just to close out the old thread appropriately; a crap pop commentator nails the issue du jour:

Prince Harry and Meghan on ‘life support’ after she pulls out of the King’s coronation

“This is self preservation for Meghan Markle,” she [Kinsey Schofield] said. “It ensures she’s not humiliated, booed or picked apart in front of the world.

“Here in the US their popularity has taken a major dive. They’re on life support, how do they rebrand?”

Seems to be on the money.
Poor silly Hazza: sent out for a public frosting to pump his slag’s tyres.
Just like every shitty relationship, everywhere.

Farkem; every one.

areff
areff
April 15, 2023 12:03 am

A succinct German philosopher? You must be kidding.

Alamak!
Alamak!
April 15, 2023 12:14 am

“Here in the US their popularity has taken a major dive. They’re on life support, how do they rebrand?”

There is no possible re-branding after South Park nailed them both completely & forever. Though, possibly if they gave away all their worldly possessions and lived on street begging, then I’d reconsider after about 15 years …

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
April 15, 2023 12:51 am

Cash and Rowdy.

Cash 2.0 Great Dane on Main Street in Ventura 5

A friend wanted to adopt a greyhound and the RSPCA said no…he owns a massive property and they knocked him back. Absolute BS!

I wouldn’t flick a copper coin to the bastards. That dog is probably been euthanized.

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 8:18 am

Doc Faustus:

The problem is going to be finding sufficient people with the skills and internal resources to do this. For the next 50 years.

Don’t think of looking in my direction, Doc.
I’m over it.

Winston Smith
April 15, 2023 8:24 am

John H:

“Mine is a most peaceable disposition. My wishes are: a humble cottage with a thatched roof, but a good bed, good food, the freshest milk and butter, flowers before my window, and a few fine trees before my door; and if God wants to make my happiness complete, he will grant me the joy of seeing some six or seven of my enemies hanging from those trees. Before death I shall, moved in my heart, forgive them all the wrong they did me in their lifetime. One must, it is true, forgive one’s enemies– but not before they have been hanged.”

Marvellous philosophy. I concur absolutely.

Zipster
April 15, 2023 8:55 am

“Here in the US their popularity has taken a major dive. They’re on life support, how do they rebrand?”

transition into each others gender of course. Henrieta and Meganon

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
April 15, 2023 3:48 pm

It is also clear that all the “do-gooders” who support this abomination of process know absolutely nothing about Aboriginal culture and the obligations and privileges within this culture. It would produce a multiplication of existing power imbalances.

They believe their own bullshit. Their narrative of happy coexistence between tribes and clans over limited resources goes against everything we know about human nature and nature in general.

Aboriginal place names typically involves a losing clan that has rivals get the chocolates which are naming rights for places. These clans often coexist in the same towns, which explains much of the arson that occurs. City whitefellas are as ignorant as the Pacific is wide.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
April 15, 2023 4:09 pm

Marvellous philosophy. I concur absolutely.

Alas, I have not yet drunk from the skulls of my enemies, but it seems apt to do so before forgiving them.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 16, 2023 8:57 pm

Well, Collingwood struggled but beat St Kilda.

Had to suffer the AFL inspired apology to Nicky Winmar ‘cos some ferals back in 1993 gave him him a hard time. Cheer squads used to do that didn’t matter who or what.

No apology from St Kilda for the coach driven bashing of John Greening in 1972..

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
April 16, 2023 9:02 pm

I didn’t know I stuttered that much

C.L.
C.L.
April 16, 2023 9:06 pm

Katherine Deves to nominate for Jim Molan’s Senate vacancy.

chrisl
chrisl
April 17, 2023 5:34 pm

In Vino Veritas
Or in Lidia speak
In Woodstock Truth ( you w@##* c#@&)

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