Good Cop, Bad Cop on Sky


Andrew Bolt interviewed Lidia Thorpe’s (white) father on Thursday evening. How that happened who knows. Did Roy Illingworth knock on Bolt’s door? Did Bolt approach Mr Illingworth? Were commercial terms involved?  What is clear is that Illingworth would have done better not to do the interview. Bolt asked him some personal questions about his daughter and his relationship with her; and, intrusively, about her mental health.  Family business is best kept private. And for his part Illingworth is obviously and understandably not a practised media performer.

I think he did OK in the circumstances. He batted away the suggestion that her health was an issue. Well done. Not well done to two-bob-each-way Bolt who editorialised the interview by commenting that there are always two sides to family disputes. No there aren’t. Sometimes there are two sides. Sometimes there aren’t.

Immediately after Bolt, on came Chris Kenny, the cognitively-confused conservative Voice advocate. A tirade of prolonged criticism of Illingworth followed for appearing on Bolt and being critical of his daughter.  I can’t help but think that Kenny’s effort might sow more discord between Illingworth and his daughter. Not a good and decent thing to do. I had to switch him off. What gall. His colleague Bolt had invited Illingworth onto his show. He, Bolt, had asked intrusive and personal questions of Illingworth, knowing that he was not dealing with a practised interviewee.

Was there a rehearsal beforehand? Might I suggest a title for the segment(s):  “The patsy, the good cop and the bad cop.”

Disgraceful television.  Never mind, I can always watch the ABC.


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Cassie of Sydney
April 21, 2023 2:17 pm

“Immediately after Bolt, on came Chris Kenny, the cognitively-confused conservative Voice advocate.”

A perfect description of Kenny!

rosie
rosie
April 21, 2023 2:24 pm

Interesting that I looked at Thorpe’s personal info on wiki, somewhere else? yesterday and it said father unknown. Now has Roy Illingworth, (a plasterer from Moe apparently). He can’t have been that old when she was born, in his late 60s, early 70s?
Doesn’t matter, she has at least 50 percent coloniser heritage (probably a fair bit more than that) and wouldn’t be here without it.

calli
calli
April 21, 2023 2:34 pm

I watched neither program, so I’m only going on reports.

First principle – never trash a family member in public, regardless of hurt or offence. Just…don’t.

Second principle – the media is never your friend, no matter what charming face it presents to you. You are prey.

Third principle – unless your politics are overtly Left, for every seemingly neutral or positive segment involving you, expect at least a dozen highly critical ones.

shatterzzz
April 21, 2023 2:38 pm

Doesn’t matter, she has at least 50 percent coloniser heritage (probably a fair bit more than that) and wouldn’t be here without it.

She’s a 1/16th 251 from one great-grandparent .. nowhere near enuf for the “look-at-moi” performances she puts on .. don’t know much about her earlier life but pretty sure it weren’t spent in a humpy outback .. like most of these faux 251 know-it-alls raised/educated in suburbia but experts on outback life, culture and non-existent history ….
thank you, Bruce, thank you sTan and a special thank you to Adam, proud 251 warrior …….!

jupes
jupes
April 21, 2023 3:38 pm

I had to switch him off.

Welcome to the club. I can’t watch any of them.

Perhaps what you witnessed was the (beginning?) of an overt stoush between Bolt and Kenny. Both on different sides of the ‘voice’ debate, maybe Kenny couldn’t wait to discredit Bolt.

Cassie of Sydney
April 21, 2023 3:48 pm

“Both on different sides of the ‘voice’ debate, maybe Kenny couldn’t wait to discredit Bolt.”

That was my take on it.

caveman
caveman
April 21, 2023 4:04 pm

Its bad cop, bad cop. I don’t think the general public give a shit about the family issues, look at Megan Markle for example she still powers in gear whinge.
The public want to see from a professional level ie: Responsible Parliament, Joe Public wants to see people being accountable for their actions.
Bolt was Women’s Day and Kenny was The Enquirer. nothing to see here.

Roger
Roger
April 21, 2023 4:57 pm

Second principle – the media is never your friend, no matter what charming face it presents to you. You are prey.

And don’t dare do unto them as they do to others.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
April 21, 2023 4:58 pm

Who Do You Think You Are should run a special series leading up to the date of the referendumb, featuring the leading schwarzer proponents.

Damon
Damon
April 21, 2023 6:48 pm

Thorpe’s disgraceful behaviour in (and out) of Parliament is not (all) Illingworth’s responsibility.

rosie
rosie
April 21, 2023 7:49 pm

She’s a 50 year old grandmother after all
Incidentally

She’s a 1/16th 251 from one great-grandparent

Isn’t correct.
Both her grandmother Gwen and her grandfather John (Sandy) Atkinson have indigenous ancestors gm from Lake Tyers region and gf from around the Murray.
Her great grandfather Harry Thorpe was killed in WWI having received the Military Medal and been recommended for the DCM.

rosie
rosie
April 21, 2023 7:53 pm

I suspect you might find you need to go back another two generations from her great grandfather to find a ‘full blood’ though.
Harry Thorpe

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 21, 2023 8:22 pm

So, Thorpey’s got good genes.
Her G/Grandad thought enough of Australia to go to the War in France.

If he’s been repatriated rather than catching a bullet, he woulda been denied a Soldier Settler block and a War Service Home too.

rosie
rosie
April 21, 2023 8:25 pm

World War One veterans, on the whole were treated very badly, regardless of skin tone.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 21, 2023 8:38 pm

Plenty of Returned men got Soldier Settler Blocks even though they weren’t farmers like Harry Thorpe.
Plenty of Anzacs and 1st AIF got War Service Homes.
No Aborigine got a Soldier Settler Block or a War Service Home, let alone both.

132andBush
132andBush
April 22, 2023 6:06 am

No Aborigine got a Soldier Settler Block or a War Service Home, let alone both.

Blackfellas were offered soldier settler blocks. The end.
Mater did a series of posts some time back, one of which touched on this.

Your algorithm is failing, moron.

132andBush
132andBush
April 22, 2023 6:29 am

Plenty of Returned men got Soldier Settler Blocks even though they weren’t farmers like Harry Thorpe.
Plenty of Anzacs and 1st AIF got War Service Homes.
No Aborigine got a Soldier Settler Block or a War Service Home, let alone both.

You know this is not true which means you are lying.

Link to Maters’ post, complete with all references.
Of course I’m assuming your creator has enabled you to read for comprehension rather than just pick up on key words to highlight for theatrical effect.

Crossie
Crossie
April 22, 2023 6:59 am

Disgraceful television. Never mind, I can always watch the ABC.

I keep thinking Chris Kenny is auditioning for his gig at the ABC.

Entropy
Entropy
April 22, 2023 7:20 am

I can’t watching Bolt and his constant editorialising dressed up as a faux question.

Journalists always think they are the smartest person in the room.

rosie
rosie
April 22, 2023 7:33 am

In any case 60% of soldier settlers abandoned the blocks, often after years of living in miserable conditions doing back breaking thankless work.
I’d have been glad to have missed out.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2023 8:24 am

250,000 returned home, 11,000 odd got soldier settler blocks, Aboriginal men were not 100 % excluded.

Can you name one Aborigine that received a Soldier Settler Block?
Course you can’t.

I’d have been glad to have missed out.
Comparing yourself to someone from the 1st AIF now?
You’re the sort of person who handed out white feathers.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2023 8:29 am

Blackfellas were offered soldier settler blocks. The end.

What gives you the right to call Indigenous men “blackfellas”, cockhead?

Mater did a series of posts some time back, one of which touched on this.

Course he did.
The ADF and it’s predecessors never did a wrong thing ever, according to the mythical MaterWorld.

calli
calli
April 22, 2023 8:31 am

My understanding is that many of the blocks were on poor land and too small to make a living from. Friends in Mildura lived on old blocks that were combined to make half-decent orchards which were profitable.

calli
calli
April 22, 2023 8:33 am

Sorry. That would be Robinvale, not Mildura (the Big Smoke).

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2023 8:35 am

Consider the ludicrous nature of the situation:

Thorpey is likely one of the very few in Parliament to have an ancestor fallen in the Great War [Albanese isn’t even eligible to be an MP]
yet Mother Grundy’s far & wide are having kittens over her giving some dickheads an impromptu character assessment?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2023 8:46 am

My understanding is that many of the blocks were on poor land and too small to make a living from.
You’re most likely wrong, as usual.
The reality was that the blokes that failed weren’t farmers anyway.

Plenty of Aborigines were [and are] good at farming, so, what do you think the chances were that the Repatriation Authorities would take the risk of an Aborigine taking up a Soldier Settler block and making a success of it?
I’ll tell you, none at all.

Tom
Tom
April 22, 2023 8:55 am

FMD. A good idea for an argument thread-bombed by a low-IQ troll.

Please observe, Doverlord.

Christine
Christine
April 22, 2023 9:23 am

Perhaps the disloyal father couldn’t resist the few minutes of fame and I guess there’s some payment.
I’d wondered if Lidia’s hard features came from her father; and there it is.
The Aboriginal genes can soften granite looks. Lidia was not so fortunate as Phillip Adams’ wife (one-time lovely Macleans toothpaste model).

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2023 9:35 am

Ed Casesays:
April 21, 2023 at 8:38 pm
Plenty of Returned men got Soldier Settler Blocks even though they weren’t farmers like Harry Thorpe.
Plenty of Anzacs and 1st AIF got War Service Homes.
No Aborigine got a Soldier Settler Block or a War Service Home, let alone both.

References needed, Grandpa Ed Simpson, not your usual bland, unsupported assertions.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2023 9:39 am

Ed Casesays:
April 22, 2023 at 8:46 am
My understanding is that many of the blocks were on poor land and too small to make a living from.
You’re most likely wrong, as usual.

“most likely” is not enough Grandpa Ed, you need some actual evidence.

You, OTOH, are always wrong. Have you worked out the difference between a B-24 Liberator and a B-25 Mitchell bomber yet? Until you can do that, you have no standing here.

Bar Beach Swimmer
April 22, 2023 10:48 am

Consider the ludicrous nature of the situation:

Thorpey is likely one of the very few in Parliament to have an ancestor fallen in the Great War.
yet Mother Grundy’s far & wide are having kittens over her giving some dickheads an impromptu character assessment?

That is the type of logic that has proclaimed that this current generation is responsible for the so-called dispossession of 1788. Lidia’s ancestor fighting in WW1 has nothing to do with Lidia’s behaviour of last week. Just like you, Ed, your poor ancestor is not responsible for the dribble that you post here.

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 22, 2023 11:52 am

Did any of your ancestors die on a Battlefield during the Great War?

Of course not, otherwise you wouldn’t be posting your tedious Bafflegab now.

132andBush
132andBush
April 22, 2023 2:19 pm

What gives you the right to call Indigenous men “blackfellas”, cockhead?

If an AI trollbot has a nerve I think I hit it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
April 22, 2023 4:59 pm

Ed Casesays:
April 22, 2023 at 11:52 am
Did any of your ancestors die on a Battlefield during the Great War?

One of mine did, Grandpa Ed Simpson, at Pozieres, and another was gassed near Passchaendale, and later died in France in October 1918, during the Spanish flu epidemic. Does this give me additional credibility here?

Ed Case
Ed Case
April 23, 2023 1:56 pm

Both your gran’pappies died in the Great War, Cletus?

Anyone else, i’d call bullshit on that claim, but …

rosie
rosie
April 25, 2023 4:15 pm

Both Victorian Aboriginal Soldier Settlers mentioned in the article I linked abandoned their blocks.
Percy Pepper got land on a floodplain at Koo Wee Rup that flooded three years out of six.

rosie
rosie
April 25, 2023 4:18 pm

Incidentally the Percy Pepper aboriginal veteran who was granted that soldier settler block was Harry Thorpe’s brother in law.
I’m guessing if Harry had survived the war and put his name down, he’d have had some sort of chance.

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