Open Thread – Tues 13 June 2023


The Death of King Arthur, James Archer, 1860

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calli
calli
June 13, 2023 6:18 pm

Apparently Albo is 1000% behind Gallagher.

Apart from his clear mathematical disability, if I were Gallagher I’d sleep with one eye open. In armour.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 13, 2023 6:20 pm

It seems clear she didn’t trust him.

You mean before or after the engagement? This is just like Harrison from MAFS.

Indolent
Indolent
June 13, 2023 6:21 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 13, 2023 6:24 pm

if I were Gallagher I’d sleep with one eye open. In armour.

The pat on the back isnt for work well done.
Its looking for the soft spot.

sfw
sfw
June 13, 2023 6:25 pm

Rule number one is never swerve to avoid an animal, way too many serious collisions come from swerving at speed, and speed means above 40kph. I’ve seen a deer, a horse and a cow share the front seats of cars by entering through the windscreen, it’s not a pleasant thing, now that sounds like I’m saying one thing then another that contradicts the first, well in a way it does but if there are multiple people in the car and you leave the road at speed you will likely hit a tree or similar or roll or both sometimes. So 99% of the time hit the animal, even though you can get large roos they generally won’t try and get in the front seat with you, they move too fast and low centre of gravity. A damaged or written off car is much better than dead or injured people. Anything smaller than a roo you just brake and hope for the best.

Heavy vehicles, rule is NEVER swerve, ever, they are safe to hit any animal from the occupants viewpoint, but fast steering movements will nearly always end in disaster for all inside and anyone nearby.

Indolent
Indolent
June 13, 2023 6:25 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 13, 2023 6:31 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
June 13, 2023 6:37 pm

Albo, “I’m going down with the ship.” Will she make it to Friday?
There’s no reason why she shouldn’t.
As far as Reynolds reputation is concerned,
What reputation?
It might be worth Tanya asking who’s funding her.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 13, 2023 6:38 pm

Check out the sign on the wall @3:55.

GARY MOORE – Still Got The Blues (Music Video)

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 13, 2023 6:40 pm

What did I say about questions Groogs? And Groogle how to punctuate.

johanna
johanna
June 13, 2023 6:46 pm

Steve Trickler, thanks for The Righteous Brothers (You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’) last night. Lyrics by the just deceased and supremely talented Cynthia Weil, music by hubby Barry Mann. Anyone who has felt a love affair slipping away related to this song.

I’ve seen some of those shows where they expose gormless so-called music experts of the younger generation to old classics.

Invariably, these ignorami (who may have hundreds of thousands or more ‘followers’ – how appropriate) on social media have never heard it. Also, they immediately assume that the singers are black.

Vale, Cynthia. Who also wrote On Broadway, and We’ve Got To Get Out of This Place, BTW.

miltonf
miltonf
June 13, 2023 6:46 pm

Yes good on Reynolds.

miltonf
miltonf
June 13, 2023 6:49 pm

The Higgins thing is like some kind of zombie politico-legal mess that keeps spreading and growing, stronger by the week.

sure is- an out of control shitshow

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 13, 2023 6:50 pm

Rule number one is never swerve to avoid an animal

100%.

Whether it be butterfly or buffalo – swerve and you’re about to meet a big old gum tree, a Mack bull bar or something else that will reduce your future Christmas dinners to zero.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 13, 2023 6:57 pm

… politico-legal mess that keeps spreading and growing, stronger by the week.

The essence of any good scandal. It’s like the Dance of the Seven Veils. Keep the punters engaged.

cohenite
June 13, 2023 6:59 pm

This is Lindsay Halligan Trump’s lawyer for the Mar-a-Lago bullshit. She’s beautiful and brilliant and brave.

This is Jack Smith, the grub prosecuting Trump under direct orders from Merrick Garland and that piece of shit biden. He’s ugly, corrupt and a traitor.

These 2 photos sum up the case against Trump.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 13, 2023 6:59 pm

johannasays:
June 13, 2023 at 6:46 pm

Hello chook. I hope you are healing well. ( :

The Alan Parsons Symphonic Project “Old And Wise” (Live in Colombia)

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 13, 2023 7:07 pm

Speaking on the government’s Constitution Alteration Bill, which is due to pass the Senate next week, Senator Cash said it was extraordinary Australians did not know how the permanent, constitutionally enshrined body would work or how many tens of millions of dollars it would cost taxpayers.

How many tens of millions?
Look to the Calma Langton report for guidance:

24 Voice Members
35 Regional and Local Voices @ 10 or more pax per each = 350 locally participating members

At a MP/Senator’s gig of $217,000 pa
Plus super @ 15%
Plus serviced vehicle @ $25,000 pa
Plus expenses @ $20,000 pa

$110 million right there.

A secretariat – say 1 for 5 members
At average $100k each = $7.5 million

Office accomodation x 36
Plus Utilities
Plus services

Then junkets and international travel

Suddenly $200 million looms as a budget figure – just for the Voice.

Add the costs of government counterparties at Commonwealth. State, and Local level – and you might easily double that $200 meg.

Then start into the blizzard of indirect costs across every part of the social economy – which is where the serious costs occur…

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 13, 2023 7:08 pm

(When the Minister can’t tell us if, from 1 July, we’re going to need some unelected aboriginal body’s approval to put a pool in a metro backyard).
Yes you can Lysandre, but it’s a dangerous distraction.
ACHA gives Aboriginal Land Corporations power over every bit of crown land, leasehold and freehold larger than the suburban 1/4 acre,
Forever.
No appeal.
No evidence.
No time limit.
No sunset.

calli
calli
June 13, 2023 7:10 pm

Joh, most days I sit and stitch to old, wonderful rock. Any genre will do.

Today it was The Eagles. One of my favourites.

miltonf
miltonf
June 13, 2023 7:10 pm

Oh no not the high speed train AGAIN? That was a Trumble brain fart too.

132andBush
132andBush
June 13, 2023 7:14 pm

Was in a smallish car once with an animal lover driving.
We very nearly ended up rolling as she swerved to avoid a rabbit. (A f5cking rabbit!)

Another tip when meeting a roo at night is go to low beam, it’s less dazzling for them and if you’ve got the horn going they have more chance of picking a safe exit.
All good in theory of course as nothing works if they suddenly appear in front of the bonnet.
I average about 12-15 a year.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 13, 2023 7:14 pm

Explained: How the WA Government’s new cultural heritage laws work and what is required of farmers
Adam Poulsen
Countryman
Thu, 1 June 2023 6:00AM

The Act, which gives Aboriginal people more say in managing their cultural heritage, includes a new three-tiered system to categorise activities that could potentially cause harm.

With just a month to go until the WA Government’s new Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act takes effect, farmers are still trying to understand how the legislation works and what is required of them.

Aboriginal cultural heritage could be anything from an area or interconnected group of areas, to an object or ancestral remains.

Before proceeding with any activity, farmers must follow a “due diligence assessment”, which starts by determining which tier the activity falls under.

THE TIER SYSTEM

Tier one activities are those that cause low ground disturbance, including maintaining existing infrastructure, or carrying out minor feral animal and weed control.

They involve removing no more than 4kg of material from the ground, or disturbing up to 10sqm of land.

Tier two activities cause moderate ground disturbance and involve removing up to 20kg of material, or disturbing up to 200sqm.

Examples could include delving, deep ripping or installation of new fences.

Tier three activities cause moderate to high ground disturbance — typically involving excavations — and could include construction of new stock watering points and yards, or clearing and cultivating new land.

Bailiwick Legal solicitor Matilda Lloyd said Tier three was a very broad category generally covering agricultural activities on land not previously used for that purpose.

“If you want to establish a new farm, new pastoral, or you want to do any land clearing or tree planting, then this is your tier three activity,” she explained.

Exempt activities under the tier system include walking, taking photos and going on to country in an emergency.

WHAT NEXT?

Once the landholder has determined which tier an activity falls under, they must search the Government’s online Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Directory to determine whether cultural heritage exists on the site.

The directory includes information about Aboriginal cultural heritage sites and protected areas Statewide, as well as contact details for Local Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Services (LACHS), knowledge holders and native title parties.

If the activity falls under Tier 1 and no cultural heritage is indicated on the directory, Ms Lloyd said the next step was to do a visual inspection.

“If you can’t see any sort of objects, any landscape that would be of significance and therefore fall into the definition of Aboriginal cultural heritage . . . then you have authorisation to progress with that activity,” she said.

“If there is Aboriginal cultural heritage on the land, then it’s a case of . . . contacting your LACHS . . . and confirming whether your activity would cause any risk of harm to Aboriginal cultural heritage.”

Tier one activities do not require a permit but steps must be taken to “avoid or minimise harm”.

Tier two activities, if deemed potentially harmful, require a permit from the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Council (ACHC).

Before applying for a permit, the landowner must notify LACHS, who will make an assessment and advise the ACHC on whether to issue a permit.

Tier three activities, if potentially harmful, require the negotiation of a management plan with LACHS.

If an agreement is reached, the management plan — which must detail what will happen if new cultural heritage is found, or if new information about the importance of existing cultural heritage comes to light — is submitted to the ACHC for approval.

If an agreement cannot be reached, the landowner submits the management plan anyway and the ACHC liaises with LACHS to try to facilitate an agreement.

If this fails, the final decision rests with WA’s Aboriginal Affairs Minister.

“If there is no LACHS, then it’s a case of contacting local knowledge holders (or) local native title holders,” Ms Lloyd said.

“If you are undertaking a tier three activity (and) you’ve looked on the directory (but) you can’t find any Aboriginal cultural heritage — you’ve looked through surveys, you’ve contacted your LACHS, and again, no results — then you need to undertake an investigation . . . to determine whether there is Aboriginal cultural heritage on your property.

“That will involve an investigation with the LACHS.”

To conduct a survey, assist in developing a management plan, or engage in general consultation, LACHS consultants and heritage officers can charge between $80 and $120 an hour.

Senior Aboriginal consultants and senior heritage officers can charge up to $160, while an anthropologist will cost $1000 per day and a solicitor $496 an hour.

The landowner can also be charged extra fees for administration, travel and accommodation.

With much of WA yet to have been surveyed for Aboriginal Cultural Heritage, it appears likely that in many cases a survey will have to be undertaken before approval can be granted for a tier three activity.

Ms Lloyd said the introduction of LACHS was one of the key changes under the new Act.

LACHS offices will be located in Broome, Karratha, Geraldton, Kalgoorlie and Albany.

I can imagine the uproar when a party from the local LACHS office gets thrown off the property…

calli
calli
June 13, 2023 7:15 pm

And my other favourite.

bons
bons
June 13, 2023 7:17 pm

Here is a little thought:
How would Gallagher be feeling if Morrisson were her boss!

Roger
Roger
June 13, 2023 7:17 pm

Senator Cash said it was extraordinary Australians did not know how the permanent, constitutionally enshrined body would work or how many tens of millions of dollars it would cost taxpayers.

Well, you’re the Opposition.

Why aren’t you doing your job better?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 13, 2023 7:19 pm

Dr F at 7:07.
Mmmyes.
Quite apart from the power of veto over everyfink, that is another reason Elbow is shy about detail.
Because eventually attention will turn from powers and responsibilities (if any) to structures, personnel numbers and, ultimately, costs.
And he so doesn’t want to go there.
Once Joe Public sees the cost of “wink/nudge” promises already made to the Voicers, it will be over.

Roger
Roger
June 13, 2023 7:23 pm

Calli, don’t forget Mikaela Davis.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 13, 2023 7:23 pm

Oh, and whilst we are putting Googlery through the wringer for his unsubstantiated assertions, did he not suggest the other day that Britnah suspected her drink was spiked?
I’ve looked high and low and not seen any suggestion from anyone that this was a remote possibility.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 7:24 pm

Oh Calli!,
I could almost slap you!
The Eagles was THE defining music of my teens. Desperado. THE ONLY song to play non stop when you were torturing yourself over a boyfriend, a job or a new horse.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 7:31 pm

“How would Gallagher be feeling if Morrisson were her boss!”

Indeed, she’s lucky. Albo has her back whereas Morrison would have put a knife in her back by now.

Johnny Rotten
June 13, 2023 7:32 pm

callisays:
June 13, 2023 at 5:23 pm
Just to lighten things up, something for Johnny Rotten:

Today my daughter called me “Birth Person”.

I replied, “Yes, Financial Drain?”

Very unkind. Don’t you know that Children are an Investment in the Future.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 7:33 pm

Calli,
I don’t know your drinking history, (dope and other shit were not my thing), but, the number one drunk song in the seventies for my crowd was Hotel California.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 13, 2023 7:33 pm

don’t forget Mikaela Davis.

I like bird song, for some reason or other, and I like harps.
A friend’s wife is a harpist, she used to play in the Ncl orchestra.
Much unsung instrument.
Fairly ordinary day at the Cafe, bird song wise. The currawongs have been glutinously celebrating the Sun at dawn, plus screeching from the cockies. The currawongs are starting to disperse into the bush to build nests, so I won’t see them for a while.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 13, 2023 7:34 pm

Bush at 7:14.
Sometimes the least worst option is to embrace the concept of the accident and brace for impact.
Roos are particularly unpredictable in terms of late changes of direction.
Putting miles of cable fences along roads to keep them on the bitumen doesn’t help either.
Thanks Dan.

miltonf
miltonf
June 13, 2023 7:35 pm
Roger
Roger
June 13, 2023 7:37 pm

If you girls like The Eagles, worth checking out those who preceded them in country rock: Gram Parsons and the Flying Burrito Brothers (solo and group), Emmylou Harris (got her start as co-vocalist with Gram Parsons) & early Linda Ronstadt (the Eagles were originally her backing band).

All of this music derives from The Byrd’s classic Sweetheart of the Rodeo album (1967).

Johnny Rotten
June 13, 2023 7:38 pm

If everyone does some good, think of what a good world this will be.

– Jackie Chan

Roger
Roger
June 13, 2023 7:40 pm

I like bird song, for some reason or other, and I like harps.

To my mind, this is the definitive version: live (as always with the Dead), on a very hot day in Orgeon, 1972.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 13, 2023 7:41 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

June 13, 2023 at 7:31 pm

“How would Gallagher be feeling if Morrisson were her boss!”

Indeed, she’s lucky. Albo has her back whereas Morrison would have put a knife in her back by now.

This is where I fervently hope that Reynolds vs Plibbers goes to court and we can have the treachery of the alleged devout Christian laid bare.

Roger
Roger
June 13, 2023 7:43 pm

Oregon!

😀

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 13, 2023 7:43 pm

This is Jack Smith, the grub prosecuting Trump under direct orders from Merrick Garland and that piece of shit biden. He’s ugly, corrupt and a traitor.

Homer (not Simpson) has a character in the Iliad who delivers a speech that flies in the face of the heroic story – a character who wants to leave Ilium and shrink into his own world. Homer makes a point of describing him:

“…only there still kept chattering on Thersites of measureless speech, whose mind was full of great store of disorderly words, wherewith to utter revilings against the kings, idly, and in no orderly wise, but whatsoever he deemed would raise a laugh among the Argives. Evil-favoured was he beyond all men that came to Ilios: he was bandy-legged and lame in the one foot, and his two shoulders were rounded, stooping together over his chest, and above them his head was warped, and a scant stubble grew thereon”

Jack Smith would seem to be another one singled out to have the outward repulsive form that springs from an inner ugliness.

This guy is a Democrat, which means he has not only his insanely excessive remuneration but also the payments he receives for all manner of corrupt dealing – and that scruffy coiffure, ill-fitting suit, and scraggling twisted tie was the best he could throw together for such a significant delivery in front of the press-corpse.

There seems an enduring truth about Dimocrays that no matter how much money they get, from legal sources or illegal, their vices grow to exceed it and demand further corruption.

Look at Biden’s son. His vicious habits have eaten away his entire natural body so that the only part which is still original is his left nostril. I don’t mean the tissues surrounding the nostril – I mean only the hole is original. The surrounding tissue is made up from Russian hookers and surgical spakfilla.

Johnny Rotten
June 13, 2023 7:46 pm

Before Mt. Everest was discovered, what was the highest mountain in the world?

Answer: Mt. Everest, it just wasn’t discovered yet.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 7:46 pm

Johanna,
a few months back, I spied a male wombat wandering across the paddock next to mine. He was ambling along, totally unhurried. He was huge. Watching him, I was reminded of the American Bison. He had a massive hump on his shoulders. He had to have weighed at least 150 kilos. No way I would want to hit him on the way back from the pub.
Most of our knowledge of wombats comes from “A Country Practice” and their sweet little “Fatso”, who was actually portrayed by around twenty-odd baby wombats. A full grown male wombat is almost the size of a Shetland Pony.
Interesting anecdote, down here we have RED Wombats. Until I moved here, I had no idea there was such a thing as red wombats.

cohenite
June 13, 2023 7:51 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alphasays:
June 13, 2023 at 7:14 pm
Explained: How the WA Government’s new cultural heritage laws work and what is required of farmers
Adam Poulsen
Countryman
Thu, 1 June 2023 6:00AM

The Act, which gives Aboriginal people more say in managing their cultural heritage, includes a new three-tiered system to categorise activities that could potentially cause harm.

A taste of the screech. The direct result of Mabo and all the bullshit therein. If climate alarmism doesn’t kill this country dead, 3rd nations cultural heritage will.

miltonf
miltonf
June 13, 2023 7:55 pm

Yes the political class seem intent on destroying the economy in a number of ways. Politics for me is more and about protecting us from politicians.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 13, 2023 7:57 pm

but, the number one drunk song in the seventies for my crowd was Hotel California.

I remember one night in the late nineties, after a long bout of karaoke, staggering through streets reputed to be home to several yakuza bibulously singing ‘American Pie’.

It seemed insanely reckless the next morning, but truth of the matter is that we were probably not as loud as we imagined and if anyone mine heard us they would have just thought “f’wit gaijin” (it is not like we camped in their front yards).

But there was the camaraderie in imagining we had risked our well-being – harrowed hell – with our drunken minstrelsy.

Johnny Rotten
June 13, 2023 7:59 pm

Give me golf clubs, fresh air and a beautiful partner, and you can keep the clubs and the fresh air.

– Jack Benny

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 13, 2023 8:02 pm

“How would Gallagher be feeling if Morrisson were her boss!”

Pretty confident, since she woulda been following his instructions, like Reynolds and Cash, and they’ve still got jobs.
Albanese, on the other hand, likely wasn’t in the loop before Higgins went public, so he’s got no reason to support Gallagher, other than she, Wong and Keneally made him Prime Minister.
But that was then …

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 13, 2023 8:02 pm

I remember one night in the late nineties, after a long bout of karaoke, staggering through streets reputed to be home to several yakuza bibulously with an American mate singing ‘American Pie’.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 13, 2023 8:03 pm

Wasn’t there an AFL player (crows or power) who got into trouble for breeding wombats with because he liked eating them?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 13, 2023 8:04 pm

Classics.

A former hitman tells Robert McCall’s (Edward Woodward) students of his harrowing journey to the afterlife and back.

The Equalizer: Sea of Fire written by Coleman Luck, ft. David Strathairn

Johnny Rotten
June 13, 2023 8:05 pm

Mother Lodesays:
June 13, 2023 at 7:57 pm
but, the number one drunk song in the seventies for my crowd was Hotel California.

Give me The ELO any day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQsv1Q3ZNY&list=PLNepftFNK5bjj7-6SSUTPbxsV6UTULEVh&index=4

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 8:10 pm

feelthebern says:
June 13, 2023 at 8:03 pm

Wasn’t there an AFL player (crows or power) who got into trouble for breeding wombats with because he liked eating them?

Wombat pies, wombats and victims in barrels.

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 8:10 pm

Sure sounds like South Australia to me!

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 8:12 pm

Mother Lode,
I can empathise with your American Pie Karaoke. Unfortunately, after the movie American Pie, much as we loved it, you seriously can’t unload your personal angst, shed load of tears, and driving the Big White Bus, to the the refrain of “and, this one time, at Band Camp”.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 8:14 pm

A friend has rung me, livid. A progressive friend of hers has uploaded onto Facechook a post about the Hunter bus tragedy and then compared it….wait for it….to the number of people who died in NSW last week of Covid, and this “progressive” friend said that the Covid deaths were shameful, and that the ten dead from the bus tragedy is nothing compared to the 80 or so who died of Covid last week.

Yep, you read that right. This is why I loathe progressives and progressivism.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 8:15 pm

Eagles’ Hotel California and Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours. The best.

miltonf
miltonf
June 13, 2023 8:16 pm

It shows Cassie that there are some effing stupid people out there. Nasty too.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 13, 2023 8:17 pm

A former hitman tells Robert McCall’s (Edward Woodward) students of his harrowing journey to the afterlife and back.

I wear I have been pondering ‘harrowing’ for a while. Particularly in the context of Odysseus and Aeneas.

Not someone who has found their preferred shampoo sold out.

miltonf
miltonf
June 13, 2023 8:17 pm

Hotel California- done to death imo- both the song and the album

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 8:18 pm

Cassie,
do you want me to help you “sort” your your friend?
I need the exercise.

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 8:19 pm

COVID is a mutated virus that is the common cold and 4000 people a year typically die in Australia from colds and flu and their various complications – usually the very elderly.

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 8:19 pm

One of many viruses that cause the common cold…

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 8:20 pm

Milton F,
ppphhhffft!

cohenite
June 13, 2023 8:21 pm

Nottingham incident – latest: Three killed as man arrested on suspicion of murder

Stock photo shows white arms being handcuffed. No mention of the religion of pieces. More white supremacy.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 8:24 pm

Actually,
drunk meanderings and sad longings for what could have been, for my group, was a mish mash of Hotel California and Wuthering Heights.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 8:25 pm

“for my group, was a mish mash of Hotel California and Wuthering Heights.”

Mine too. Also loved Blondie. Countdown every Sunday. Those were the days!

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
June 13, 2023 8:26 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 13, 2023 at 8:15 pm

Eagles’ Hotel California and Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours. The best.

Yeah Nah

Rammstein – Du Hast and Ted Mulry Gang – Disturbing the Peace

Legends

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 13, 2023 8:26 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:

June 13, 2023 at 8:14 pm

A friend has rung me, livid. A progressive friend of hers has uploaded onto Facechook a post about the Hunter bus tragedy and then compared it….wait for it….to the number of people who died in NSW last week of Covid

Completely irrelevant comparison.
And callous.
And opportunistic, exploiting this tragedy to breathe life into the Covid panic.
But, if we must, how about this?
I’ll bet the covid deaths have an average age of 76.8.
Whilst this is sad, the loss of life expectancy and potential from the bus accident is massive.

Johnny Rotten
June 13, 2023 8:26 pm

‘And that the ten dead from the bus tragedy is nothing compared to the 80 or so who died of Covid last week.’

And how many people in Australia died of a Heart Attack last week?
And how many people in Australia died from a Stroke last week?
And how many people died of a Cancer last week?
And how many people died of the Flu?
And how many people just died of natural causes – Their heart stopped.?

The numbers are fairly consistent and the Virus Crisis that stopped the Whole World for 2 to 3 years was not that big a deal apart from the ‘Pollies’ and the others farking it all up Big Time.

Accidents happen all the time. FFS

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 8:30 pm

“Completely irrelevant comparison.
And callous.
And opportunistic, exploiting this tragedy to breathe life into the Covid panic.
But, if we must, how about this?
I’ll bet the covid deaths have an average age of 76.8.
Whilst this is sad, the loss of life expectancy and potential from the bus accident is massive.”

Correct. And my friend, who’s usually quite timid, posted a comment on Facebook calling out the callousness and the absurd comparison of her ‘progressive friend”.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 8:31 pm

One more,
as a rider, a non-apologetic horse girl, Mamma’s,

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
June 13, 2023 8:32 pm

Albanese, on the other hand, likely wasn’t in the loop before Higgins went public

BBBWWWWahahahahahahahahahaha

Are you seriously trying to tell me a senior member of the ALP tactics committee kept information, that could be used to damage a sitting government, away from their then leader of the opposition, coming towards an election

Which is it, are you drunk or on the shrooms again.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 8:34 pm

“posted a comment on Facebook calling out the callousness and the absurd comparison of her ‘progressive friend”.”

I forgot a word, callousness and the absurd and offensive comparison.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 13, 2023 8:34 pm

Nottingham incident – latest: Three killed as man arrested on suspicion of murder

Let me guess he was using a bow, and was dressed in Lincoln green?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 13, 2023 8:36 pm

you seriously can’t unload your personal angst, shed load of tears, and driving the Big White Bus, to the the refrain of “and, this one time, at Band Camp”.

But it is such a great song.

Perhaps American Pie now denies me American Pie.

But nothing can replace those long gurgling tones where I sing a sustained note into a shower head microphone.

Or the Terpsichorean* ministrations of a person spasming for air when their breath runs short while singing ‘falling faaaaaast’.

* yes, I got this from Monty Python’s Cheese Shop sketch, although the muse is known for dance rather than music, but dance, chorus, and music were kind of synonymous in those days.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 8:36 pm

Damn, bugger, Sh*t!.
here it is, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz62pktwJRA

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 8:39 pm

“And opportunistic”

Lefties are always opportunistic.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 13, 2023 8:46 pm

I wear I have been pondering

I think Auto-corrupt is becoming a bigger nuisance than honest-to-Gough errors.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 13, 2023 8:55 pm

Carpe Jugulumsays:
June 13, 2023 at 8:32 pm
Albanese, on the other hand, likely wasn’t in the loop before Higgins went public

BBBWWWWahahahahahahahahahaha

Are you seriously trying to tell me a senior member of the ALP tactics committee kept information, that could be used to damage a sitting government, away from their then leader of the opposition, coming towards an election

Which is it, are you drunk or on the shrooms again.

Grandpa Cletus, as part of his job shilling for the Liars, has “forgotten” that AnAl was also asking multiple Questions Without Notice on the subject, along with the rest of the Mean Girls.

Embrace the power of “and” when considering your question.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 13, 2023 8:57 pm

Albanese wouldna wanted to know anything before Higgins went public, for obvious reasons [unless you’re a clown] …
So, he won’t have any trouble letting Gallagher and Tanya go, if he has to.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 8:57 pm

Mother Lode,
the difference between Hotel California and American Pie.
youtube.com/watch?v=hgCw0YRMFHY

8 times smoother. 😀

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
June 13, 2023 8:58 pm

Lizzie Bare 13/6 @ 4.45

Only a female’s can control boys like that.
I choose to begin the story NOW.

I tried disciple at my 5 yr olds birthday party when all these girls began squealing and oooing about penises etc.
My wife told me to take control of the situation while standing at the barbievwith a beer talking to one of the fathers.
I looked at the father (Italyoon) and said I”ll handle this the old fashioned way.
I strode up there like a big tough guy and in my best new Ostraluan pounded out “ nexts one speaks like dis get a kick up da bum”
The daughter of the father at thebbq just runs right up to me turns around, slaps her bum and says “here’s your target”
Then all of the girls turned aroung and copied her with “here’s your target”
My wife steamed out of the house and took control.

The END

Like everything in life I mirror the Sandman, a failure.

Pogria
Pogria
June 13, 2023 9:04 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
June 13, 2023 9:04 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 13, 2023 at 8:57 pm
Albanese wouldna wanted to know anything before Higgins went public, for obvious reasons [unless you’re a clown] …

If Mizzzz Knickerless had not already gone public, how would AnAl have known that he “wouldna wanted to know anything”?

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 13, 2023 9:04 pm

Rita Panahi:

The good news is the Yes vote in the race-based referendum is floundering.

The bad news is that state governments are implementing treaties that will cost taxpayers billions and create further racial division and costly bureaucracies that will do nothing to close the gap.

For the first time since the so-called Voice to Parliament was declared a key priority of the Labor government, the Yes vote has fallen below the No vote.

The slide has been rather dramatic, plummeting from 63 per cent in August to 49 per cent in the latest survey for Nine media.

By comparison the No vote has soared from 37 per cent to 51 per cent despite the uneven playing field that has big corporates, sporting bodies, academia and celebrities backing the Yes vote.

But it seems Australians are not going to be guilted or bullied into enshrining racial privilege into the Constitution.

It’s little wonder that support for the Voice is weakest in states like Queensland and WA where they are getting a taste of what this agenda entails.

In WA, landholders will have to abide by new laws under the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act from July 1. The Act “recognises the special interest Aboriginal people have in protecting, conserving, preserving and managing Aboriginal cultural heritage”.

That’s a new bureaucratic nightmare created for many landowners planning to undertake improvements on their own land. Landowners will have to engage with the Local Aboriginal Cultural Services, with the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Council ultimately deciding whether the work can go ahead.

And, we are not just talking about large developments here but something as small as a fence. Even The National Indigenous Times acknowledges the problems the new laws will cause.

“The new legislation demands landowners obtain permits before undertaking acts such as digging fences and planting trees on properties more than 1100sq?m,” explained the NIT.

More than 1100sq?m is just over a quarter of an acre or what was once the standard suburban block.

Meanwhile, in Queensland we have learnt that treaties between Indigenous communities and the state government are likely to cost hundreds of millions of dollars apiece and there may be as many as 150 of them entered into. No wonder the Yes vote is collapsing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 13, 2023 9:05 pm

Reading Niall Barr’s classic book “Pendulum of War – the Three Battles of El Alamein” and reflecting that one of my mob was at all three….

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 13, 2023 9:09 pm

Mother Lode,
the difference between Hotel California and American Pie.
youtube.com/watch?v=hgCw0YRMFHY

If the difference is not 6 or 7 dai-joki and half a bottle of sweet vermouth then the equations hold no water.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
June 13, 2023 9:13 pm

Cassie 13/6 @ 4:59

Our lives are a choice between the right and wrong thing.
As Alan Jeans only you can make that choice.
Life is not a straight line, it’s situations like this we reflect and greatness comes from adversity.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 13, 2023 9:19 pm

Block people’s vision and ask who is singing.

Ta-da!

“Dreams” Fleetwood Mac performed by Rumours of Fleetwood Mac (2022)

Crossie
Crossie
June 13, 2023 9:24 pm

Stephen Conroy started early this morning on Sky and is still there on Paul Murray’s show. Labor are in real strife if he needs to put in a long day to defend Katy.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 13, 2023 9:26 pm

I’ll bet the covid deaths have an average age of 76.8.

I think it was something like 85.3 across this wide brown land.

I suppose we’re lucky it wasn’t 91.3.

In any event. Cassie’s acquaintance is a tool.

Crossie
Crossie
June 13, 2023 9:28 pm

And Conroy looks really seedy and done in. But discussions must be derailed and he is on Sky this late to do just that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 13, 2023 9:29 pm

It’s all such a mystery (the Hun):

Police arrested a man Tuesday after three people were found dead and a van tried to mow down three others in the central English city of Nottingham in incidents authorities believe are linked.

Nottingham’s centre was cordoned off, with a heavy police presence, including some armed officers following the series of events that left residents shaken.

A 31-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murder, police said.

‘A series of events’. I will not be surprised if head-loppery is one or some of these ‘events’.

Crossie
Crossie
June 13, 2023 9:30 pm

Jackie Lambie will save Labor and the Mean Girls, specifically Katy Gallagher, so no need for Stephen Conroy to torture himself any further. It’s just awful to watch.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 13, 2023 9:31 pm

Earlier blockquote fail.

Stupido, as they say in Spain. Or Portugal.

Or at Elbow’s house.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 13, 2023 9:35 pm

A first time watching this clip.

I know the song. This vision is a first.

Fleetwood Mac – You Make Loving Fun (Live) [Remastered in HD]

duncanm
duncanm
June 13, 2023 9:38 pm

dover0beachsays:
June 13, 2023 at 4:10 pm
Lauren Chen @TheLaurenChen
You gotta love it when reality wins

Girl power meets reality.

A repeat of the – what was it, U16’s ? – in Oz vs. the national team.

Wrexham dragons – only just promoted to EFL League 2 in the UK, the fourth-highest soccer league in the UK.

vs. US team – world champions, most successful ever in Women’s world soccer.

12-0

mem
mem
June 13, 2023 9:42 pm

Just reporting in to Cats interested in the outcome of my lunch with lefty mate. Suffice it to say he is now my ex mate. Lasted for half an hour on small talk not raising touchy subjects. Then I mentioned the tennis which I always watch. Oh dear, big mistake. Djokovic (I forgot is anti vaxer) winning is a no-no, in lefty conversation. Much kerfuffle. No going back now after the heated exchange. I paid the full bill and left. So sad after 40 years, but there you go.

duncanm
duncanm
June 13, 2023 9:43 pm

teeny little bit sarcastic

apologies – you know sarcasm sometimes doesn’t travel well in print – try a </sarc> next time

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 9:44 pm

Some people love politics more than life, politics gets in the way.

Being obsessed like that is like being fat, drunk and stupid, it’s no way to go through life.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 9:49 pm

So, today that noble grub Bill Shorten defended Katy Gallagher. Yes, that Bill Shorten, the Bill Shorten who impregnated a woman married to another man at the time, the Bill Shorten who dumped his first wife by text and the Bill Shorten who has a rape allegation against him. My oh my, of all people Bill Shorten should keep his gob firmly shut.

You see, I miss the Liberal Party of old, a party that had mavericks and a few oddballs, like Wilson Tuckey, who would have sat on the backbenches today in Canberra and howled the following to Bill Shorten….”Kathy”…..”Kathy”……”Kathy”.

Tuckey and others knew that when shit is thrown at you, you throw it back.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 9:50 pm

“memsays:
June 13, 2023 at 9:42 pm”

You know mem, it just isn’t worth it. I’ve cut several people from my life and quite frankly, I don’t miss them.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 13, 2023 9:52 pm

It’s a pity Djokovic didn’t dedicate his victory to that treacherous god botherer Alex Hawke.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 13, 2023 9:52 pm

Wilson Tuckey,

IIRC, he raised the name of a lady in the House, who had sued Paul Keating for breach of promise?

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 9:53 pm

Randomly reading wikipedia

This Emperor Alexander III seems to have been a great half-brother and champion uncle. Really, this sounds pretty damned idyllic until the train accident.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_III_of_Russia

————

Family life
Left to Right: Emperor Alexander III, Prince George (later George V of the United Kingdom), Marie Feodorovna, Maria of Greece, Tsesarevich Nicholas (later Emperor Nicholas II of Russia). Probably taken on the imperial yacht near Denmark, c. 1893.

Following his father’s assassination, Alexander III was advised that it would be difficult for him to be kept safe at the Winter Palace. As a result, Alexander relocated his family to the Gatchina Palace, located 30 kilometres (20 mi) south of St. Petersburg. The palace was surrounded by moats, watch towers, and trenches, and soldiers were on guard night and day.[38] Under heavy guard, he would make occasional visits into St. Petersburg, but even then he would stay in the Anichkov Palace, as opposed to the Winter Palace.[citation needed] Alexander resented having to take refuge at Gatchina. Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich of Russia remembered hearing Alexander say, “To think that after having faced the guns of the Turks I must retreat now before these skunks.”[39]

In the 1860s, Alexander fell in love with his mother’s lady-in-waiting, Princess Maria Elimovna Meshcherskaya. Dismayed to learn that Prince Wittgenstein had proposed to her in early 1866, he told his parents that he was prepared to give up his rights of succession in order to marry his beloved “Dusenka”. On 19 May 1866, Alexander II informed his son that Russia had come to an agreement with the parents of Princess Dagmar of Denmark, the fiancée of his late elder brother Nicholas. Initially, Alexander refused to travel to Copenhagen because he wanted to marry Maria. Enraged, Alexander II ordered him to go straight to Denmark and propose to Princess Dagmar. Alexander wrote in his diary “Farewell, dear Dusenka.”

Despite his initial reluctance, Alexander grew fond of Dagmar. By the end of his life, they loved each other deeply. A few weeks after their wedding, he wrote in his diary: “God grant that… I may love my darling wife more and more… I often feel that I am not worthy of her, but even if this was true, I will do my best to be.”[40] When she left his side, he missed her bitterly and complained: “My sweet darling Minny, for five years we’ve never been apart and Gatchina is empty and sad without you.”[41] In 1885, he commissioned Peter Carl Fabergé to produce the first of what were to become a series of jeweled Easter eggs (now called “Fabergé eggs”) for her as an Easter gift. Dagmar was so delighted by the First Hen egg that Alexander gave her an egg every year as an Easter tradition. After Alexander died, his heir Nicholas continued the tradition and commissioned two eggs, one for his wife, Empress Alexandra Feodorovna, and one for his mother, Dagmar, every Easter. When she nursed him in his final illness, Alexander told Dagmar, “Even before my death, I have got to known an angel.”[42] He died in Dagmar’s arms, and his daughter Olga noted that “my mother still held him in her arms” long after he died.[43]

Alexander had six children by Dagmar, five of whom survived into adulthood: Nicholas (b. 1868), George (b. 1871), Xenia (b. 1875), Michael (b. 1878) and Olga (b. 1882). He told Dagmar that “only with [our children] can I relax mentally, enjoy them and rejoice, looking at them.”[44] He wrote in his diary that he “was crying like a baby”[45] when Dagmar gave birth to their first child, Nicholas. He was much more lenient with his children than most European monarchs, and he told their tutors, “I do not need porcelain, I want normal healthy Russian children.”[46] General Cherevin believed that the clever George was “the favourite of both parents”. Alexander enjoyed a more informal relationship with his youngest son Michael and doted on his youngest daughter, Olga.

Alexander was concerned that his heir-apparent, Nicholas, was too gentle and naive to become an effective Emperor. When Witte suggested that Nicholas participate in the Trans-Siberian Committee, Alexander said, “Have you ever tried to discuss anything of consequence with His Imperial Highness the Grand Duke? Don’t tell me you never noticed the Grand Duke is . . . an absolute child. His opinions are utterly childish. How could he preside over such a committee?”[47] He was worried that Nicholas had no experiences with women and arranged for the Polish ballerina Mathilde Kschessinskaya to become his son’s mistress.[48] Even at the end of his life, he considered Nicholas a child and told him, “I can’t imagine you as a fiancé – how strange and unusual!”[49]

Each summer his parents-in-law, King Christian IX and Queen Louise, held family reunions at the Danish royal palaces of Fredensborg and Bernstorff, bringing Alexander, Maria and their children to Denmark.[50] His sister-in-law, the Princess of Wales, would come from Great Britain with some of her children, and his brother-in-law and cousin-in-law, King George I of Greece, his wife, Queen Olga, who was a first cousin of Alexander and a Romanov Grand Duchess by birth, came with their children from Athens.[50] In contrast to the strict security observed in Russia, Alexander and Maria revelled in the relative freedom that they enjoyed in Denmark, Alexander once commenting to the Prince and Princess of Wales near the end of a visit that he envied them being able to return to a happy home in England, while he was returning to his Russian prison.[51] In Denmark, he was able to enjoy joining his children, nephews and nieces, in muddy ponds looking for tadpoles, sneaking into his father-in-law’s orchard to steal apples, and playing pranks, such as turning a water hose on the visiting King Oscar II of Sweden.[51]

Alexander had an extremely poor relationship with his brother Grand Duke Vladimir. At a restaurant, Grand Duke Vladimir had a brawl with the French actor Lucien Guitry when the latter kissed his wife, Duchess Marie of Mecklenburg-Schwerin.[52] The prefect of St. Petersburg needed to escort Vladimir out of the restaurant.[52] Alexander was so furious that he temporarily exiled Vladimir and his wife and threatened to exile them permanently to Siberia if they did not leave immediately.[52] When Alexander and his family survived the Borki train disaster in 1888, Alexander joked, “I can imagine how disappointed Vladimir is going to be when he learns that we all stayed alive!”[53] This tension was reflected in the rivalry between Maria Feodorovna and Vladimir’s wife, Grand Duchess Marie Pavlovna.[54]

Alexander had better relationships with his other brothers: Alexei (who he made rear admiral and then a grand admiral of the Russian Navy), Sergei (who he made governor of Moscow) and Paul.

Despite the antipathy that Alexander had towards his stepmother, Catherine Dolgorukov, he nevertheless allowed her to remain in the Winter Palace for some time after his father’s assassination and to retain various keepsakes of him. These included Alexander II’s blood-soaked uniform that he died wearing, and his reading glasses.[55]

Even though he disliked their mother, Alexander was kind to his half-siblings. His youngest half-sister Princess Catherine Alexandrovna Yurievskaya remembered when he would play with her and her siblings: “The Emperor… seemed a playful and kind Goliath among all the romping children.”[56]

On 29 October [O.S. 17 October] 1888 the Imperial train derailed in an accident at Borki. At the moment of the crash, the imperial family was in the dining car. Its roof collapsed, and Alexander held its remains on his shoulders as the children fled outdoors. The onset of Alexander’s kidney failure was later attributed to the blunt trauma suffered in this incident.[57]

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 13, 2023 9:54 pm

As an example of the kind of damage that was avoided, we could take the incident when Wilson Tuckey provoked Keating into outrageous pyrotechnics in February 1986, when, during a heated debate in the old house, he accused Keating of breaking a promise. It was a breach of promise case, and Keating’s jilted fiance was a woman called Christine. Keating became so incensed that he said, among other things, `You stupid foul-mouthed grub. You piece of criminal garbage.’ The uproar that followed received considerable coverage in the media. In those days, television could only show a still picture of Keating and play the audio of what he was saying. Even this was enough for questions to be raised about Keating’s ability to hold high office in a robust democracy. Consequently Keating was desperate, and based on personal conversations with him at the time, I would say anxious, to keep television away when parliament moved up the hill.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 9:54 pm

“IIRC, he raised the name of a lady in the House, who had sued Paul Keating for breach of promise?”

Yep, Tuckey knew how to kick shit.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 13, 2023 9:55 pm

Dotsays:
June 13, 2023 at 9:44 pm
Some people love politics more than life, politics gets in the way.

Being obsessed like that is like being fat, drunk and stupid, it’s no way to go through life.

Leftards have politics, non-leftards have lives.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 13, 2023 9:55 pm

Crossiesays:

June 13, 2023 at 9:24 pm

Stephen Conroy started early this morning on Sky and is still there on Paul Murray’s show. Labor are in real strife if he needs to put in a long day to defend Katy.

There is a simpler answer as to why Red Underpants is putting in a double shift.
No-one else among the retired Liars would touch it.

Crossie
Crossie
June 13, 2023 10:00 pm

Much kerfuffle. No going back now after the heated exchange. I paid the full bill and left. So sad after 40 years, but there you go.

Mem, I’m so sorry it ended that way. I’m reminded of lyrics from a Boyce and Hart song that you can’t lose a friend you never had.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 13, 2023 10:01 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

June 13, 2023 at 9:52 pm

It’s a pity Djokovic didn’t dedicate his victory to that treacherous god botherer Alex Hawke.

Forgettable non-entity.
I propose an amendment to the Constitution.
“Any citizen of Australia, by birth or naturalisation, shall be eligible to be elected to, and sit in, the House of Representatives or the Senate, with the sole exceptions of any person bearing the names Malcolm or Hawke”.

Cassie of Sydney
June 13, 2023 10:02 pm

“This Emperor Alexander III seems to have been a great half-brother and champion uncle. Really, this sounds pretty damned idyllic until the train accident”

Yes and no. Actually, he ruled Russia as a despot and autocrat. When his father, Alexander II, was assassinated in 1881, Alexander tore up the draft constitution his father intended to introduce. And his brother, Serge*, commissioned the writing of the Protocols.

Serge married Elizabeth of Hesse, granddaughter of Queen Victoria, elder sister of Alexandra who married Nicholas, Alexander III’s son. They were Prince Phillip’s aunts.

Crossie
Crossie
June 13, 2023 10:03 pm

There is a simpler answer as to why Red Underpants is putting in a double shift.
No-one else among the retired Liars would touch it.

That is possibly true though Sky don’t have many other Labor people who will appear “after dark” (cue sinister music as per Albo).

duncanm
duncanm
June 13, 2023 10:07 pm

Suddenly $200 million looms as a budget figure – just for the Voice.

2003-4 budget for ATSIC=ATSIS was approx $200M.

duncanm
duncanm
June 13, 2023 10:07 pm

That should be ‘ATSIC + ATSIS’

P
P
June 13, 2023 10:08 pm

So sad after 40 years, but there you go.

Yes, but you can be thankful for the good 40 years which will always remain.
Savor the good times.

132andBush
132andBush
June 13, 2023 10:08 pm

Sorry to read that, mem.

I had a bad feeling about it from the get go.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 13, 2023 10:16 pm

Check this out from yesteryear. It’s worth it.

(Ghost) Riders In the Sky (American Outlaws: Live at Nassau Coliseum, 1990)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 13, 2023 10:16 pm

Yep, Tuckey knew how to kick shit.

Way back when , there was a reality TV’ show that attempted to embarrass Federal politicians by “putting them in the workplace.” The Minister for Industry made a complete pigs breakfast of working on a car assembly line, but Bronwyn Bishop and Wilson Tuckey made complete fools of the producers – she was working on a sheep farm, having been a jillaroo in her youth, and some moron set Tuckey to work behind the bar of a pub….

duncanm
duncanm
June 13, 2023 10:19 pm

“Dreams” Fleetwood Mac performed by Rumours of Fleetwood Mac (2022)

wow! – tingles.

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 10:23 pm

Hmmm

I knew Alexander III was a reactionary (he had his reasons, his conclusion probably wasn’t sound) but I did not know the person who commissioned the “Protocols” was that high up.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 13, 2023 10:28 pm

Boom! news (the Hun):

A soldier has suffered a traumatic facial injury after a firearm incident at Puckapunyal Military Base on Tuesday afternoon.

A 22-year-old woman was unresponsive and had significant facial injuries following the incident about 2.49pm.

This will be a ‘cook-off’ of some sort.

Paramedics were tasked to attend the Puckapunyal military area near Seymour-Tooborac Rd just before 3pm.

It is understood the explosion involved a faulty .50 calibre bullet. The woman’s face was close to the firearm when the explosion happened, but it is understood she was wearing a helmet and body armour at the time.

Ah yep. Cook-off, where the weapon jams with a round in the chamber, and the ladeeee army type here has opened the top plate and it’s gone – well, boom.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 13, 2023 10:29 pm

Also usually happens after the weapon’s already had a few hundred rounds through it.

P
P
June 13, 2023 10:31 pm

Check this out from yesteryear. It’s worth it.
(Ghost) Riders In the Sky (American Outlaws: Live at Nassau Coliseum, 1990)

Saw the Shadows live at a club in SW Sydney in the mid eighties:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdfGQwEN-rs

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 13, 2023 10:36 pm

Also – generally, if you’ve put a few hundred (or thousand) rounds through something like a .50, IF it jams and you reckon there might a round cooking up underneath that top plate, the thing to do is NOT put your boat race straight into the space under that top plate when you lift it up to see what’s going on.

Put your face somewhere else when you do lift the plate. There’ll be a boom, or there won’t be.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
June 13, 2023 10:36 pm

Feel the Bern 13/6@ 8:03
The wombat – I often wondered if it would make a good “sauerbraten” on a bed of fluffy white rice ?

duncanm
duncanm
June 13, 2023 10:42 pm

I fully support women firing .50 cal

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Oz4Dq61KdKQ

Crossie
Crossie
June 13, 2023 10:50 pm

P says:
June 13, 2023 at 10:31 pm
Check this out from yesteryear. It’s worth it.
(Ghost) Riders In the Sky (American Outlaws: Live at Nassau Coliseum, 1990)
Saw the Shadows live at a club in SW Sydney in the mid eighties:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdfGQwEN-rs

P thanks for that, the hairstyles of the audience were a nice reminder of a better era.

I love The Shadows and saw their last concert at the Darling Harbour convention centre. It was extraordinary how they were note perfect which is rare live in concert. Hank Marvin ran an amusing line of patter about their music and all the different guitars that were required to get the right sound.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 13, 2023 10:55 pm

I remember Wilson Tuckey telling us to get the f*ck out of the pool at the Port Hotel in Carnarvon 1982 … primary school years. He was pissed off!

We did displace at lot of water ( via bombies ) from that pool…We never got to do it again and the final walk home was with teenagers who set it all up.

Dot
Dot
June 13, 2023 11:01 pm

Speaking of Army e girls, of the Great Satan:

https://www.instagram.com/haylujan/

Yeah scroll through the ones when she’s shooting airsoft in denim shorts.

You’re 18, dying outside of Tehran in 2025 under President Clinton’s orders, shot by a Qods Force guardsman with an AK-74; your final words as you bleed out whilst staring into the early morning sky:

I DID IT FOR YOU MAH KWEEN LUNCHBAGLUJAN, WELL ENDOWED, FRECKLY FACED E4 SPECIALIST PSY OPS OPERATOR…AND YOUR GLORIOUS POONYEETI I SHALL NEVER SEE! UGH…

Crossie
Crossie
June 13, 2023 11:02 pm

Here is some more of The Shadows.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 13, 2023 11:09 pm

Great work by Andwew Pwobyn and the Exec Producers at ALPBC News. The split screen between failed, spineless, has been SloMo and embattled soon to be never was Gallagher was inspired. I will raise it at my next Friends of the ALPBC meeting.

Indolent
Indolent
June 14, 2023 12:08 am
rickw
rickw
June 14, 2023 12:08 am

I paid the full bill and left. So sad after 40 years, but there you go.

Having a leftie as a friend is like buying a banana. Sooner or later it’s going to go off.

rickw
rickw
June 14, 2023 12:13 am

Just visited Kandy in Sri Lanka. Pretty interesting. Impressive number of colonial buildings there.

Bruce in WA
June 14, 2023 12:29 am

A different version of Ghost Riders in the Sky.

And The Shadows with one of their haunting best.

MatrixTransform
June 14, 2023 12:51 am

Roundabouts

LoL

third day in WA and I drove from Freo up to Butler again

I did wonder this morning … ffs, just how far north do they go?

even on the freeway, its hard to tell if you aren’t on one giant roundabout

weird

Harlequin Decline
June 14, 2023 1:24 am

Rickw,

How is the house hunting in Chiang Mai going, made a purchase yet?

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:00 am
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Tom
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Tom
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Tom
June 14, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:07 am
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Tom
June 14, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:18 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 14, 2023 4:45 am

Tom, I woke up insomniac and scrolling the Cat. How do you manage to do this every time, the cartoon universe at your fingertips? It is such a major feat of constancy and one that truly helps to make the Cat the great blog it is. I haven’t even got the energy to click on any yet, so that’s a treat for later. I’m going bad to bed now, sleepy at last. Thank you for the toons.

Linda Ronstadt singing Desperado. Now that really does bring back some gin-soaked miseries.
Thank goodness that was long ago and life moves on, as it does.

miltonf
miltonf
June 14, 2023 4:58 am

Former President Donald Trump will be arraigned Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Miami after being indicted by the Biden administration’s Department of Justice.

Trump’s hearing is scheduled for 3PM Eastern on Tuesday.What a disgusting country

miltonf
miltonf
June 14, 2023 5:03 am

‘Degenerate’ Transgender Activists Strip at White House Pride Event With Kids PresentObscene- the Russians and the Chinese must be having a good laugh

Gabor
Gabor
June 14, 2023 5:50 am

miltonf says:
June 14, 2023 at 4:58 am

Former President Donald Trump will be arraigned Tuesday at the federal courthouse in Miami after being indicted by the Biden administration’s Department of Justice.

Trump’s hearing is scheduled for 3PM Eastern on Tuesday.What a disgusting country

Some forumites are enamored by it, I keep an open mind as I have never even been on the way to it and don’t know firsthand. The US government of course is an other thing, local and federal. Still if the locals are happy with it who are we to object to their way of life?
I just wish they would keep it to themselves and leave the rest of the world alone and don’t interfere.

Megan
Megan
June 14, 2023 6:14 am

Thanks Tom. Always my first stop in the mornings. I echo Lizzie’s wonder at your deep commitment to the cause.

Razey
Razey
June 14, 2023 6:16 am

The USA and the rest of the Woke West is a freak show. They really seem to think the world looks up to them. LOL. The Woke West is in terminal decline.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 14, 2023 6:30 am

D’ya think the anti-nuke people might have over-egged the Ooger-booger scary radiation demon? There’s a new examination of the “no safe level” theory, and all the Labor/Green types who fraudulently use the “big bad nuclear power station in your backyard” tactic are wrong on all counts.
American Thinker

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 6:39 am

The Woke West is in terminal decline.

Certainly will if people retreat.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 14, 2023 6:44 am

When is a “Christian” not a Christian? When he’s a duplicitous and murderous takfiri jihadist who stabs children in a park.
“News” services fooled again, feeding people misinformation again. It was an unlikely story, and the evidence is now available, but the MSM might not tell you about it.
Raymond Ibrahim has the story at American Thinker.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 6:45 am

I can’t even. This is a howler!

https://www.jpost.com/omg/article-746112

The article, written by Associated Press journalists and Ukrainian experts for TIME magazine, analyzed the negative impact that the dam’s destruction is already having on Ukraine’s environment and how the country may be affected long term.

Social media’s response to the article was quick and critical. While Twitter users did acknowledge the environmental catastrophe caused by the dam’s collapse, they pointed out one glaring issue with the article – Chernobyl is already Ukraine’s Chernobyl.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 14, 2023 6:56 am

200m down the gurgler for Da Voice, or in the past for ATSICk.
Yesterday there were women at the shops asking us to give them a monthly amount for the Pink Ribbon mob doing research into breast cancer.
Mrs. Anchor said no.
Why do governments waste so much money on nugatory virtue signalling, or worse, campaigns to divide and undermine our nation’s sovereignty, instead of making sure cancer research of all sorts gets the funding it needs?

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 6:57 am

In the end, voters and tweeps, want to see campaign promises actually kept. They are tired of all talk and no action. All presidential candidates need to be ready to convince voters they are ready to work and reform.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 6:57 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:

June 14, 2023 at 4:45 am

Tom, I woke up insomniac and scrolling the Cat. 

Go do some vacuuming.
I dropped some corn chips behind the couch in the sun-room.

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 7:00 am

I echo Lizzie’s wonder at your deep commitment to the cause.

Thanks, Megan and Lizzie. It’s easy when you establish your routine. I keep trackwork jockey’s hours: in bed by 7pm, rise at 3am. Good morning to all the jockeys and horsies!

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 7:12 am

“‘Degenerate’ Transgender Activists Strip at White House Pride Event”

A portent is a happening, an occurrence, a phenomenon that foretells the future, it signifies change and is often a warning. It’s a message of sorts. They say that as the Roman Empire was collapsing, there were many portents. History is replete with portents as warnings of imminent societal collapse.

I watched in dismay at the putrid display at the White House by the transgender activists, with one old, senile and very rotting pervert lauding the other younger perverts “as brave”, and I thought to myself, this is yet another very clear portent of US decline. No society has ever withstood such moral degeneracy, and no society will ever withstand such moral degeneracy.

Whilst I’m happy to one day be proven wrong, I don’t think I will be so, here’s my portent, I don’t think we’ll ever see a group of transgender perverts and activists stripping down at the Kremlin in Moscow or at the Forbidden Palace in Beijing.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 7:20 am

With the attack in Nottingham yesterday, just like the attack in France last week (when babies had their throats slashed), when the news come in, we must ask ourselves a simple question….

What is the media not telling us?

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 7:25 am

And it seems like we’re finally there. Gay saturation has reached peak annoyance levels and everybody is getting sick of it. The Pride overload manifested in the backlash to Bud Light and Target when they went too far with their Pride Month marketing. Now both companies are suffering.

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 7:27 am

Janet Albrechtsen, Paywallian:

The beauty of the press is that it can’t be controlled. True, the supine, the stupid and the ideological end of the press can be manipulated, but eventually, in a free and open society with a competitive media, if a story is important enough, the press will usually ensure the truth comes out.
That beauty became a problem for Brittany Higgins and David Sharaz. They made a rookie’s error when they set out on a strategy to use the media, instead of the criminal justice system, to press their case.
They appear to have assumed they would always be able to control the narrative, to shape the headlines, to run their preferred lines without critical analysis – with the help of enough supporters in the media.
Perhaps they thought their experience with Lisa Wilkinson on The Project would be repeated over and over again.
Having tried to mould the media message, they cannot complain when some parts of the media – including this newspaper – decline to be shaped for their purposes. That was the gamble Higgins and Sharaz took.
Remember that the strategy of making this a media and political story instead of a criminal justice matter was a deliberate choice by Higgins and her advisers. There is no evidence that any of Higgins’s media supporters advised the young woman against this.
In a sign of how skewed this story became, the evidence to date suggests that two people, and only two people, encouraged Higgins to go to the police when there was an inkling of sexual activity: her old boss, senator Linda Reynolds, and former chief of staff Fiona Brown.
As Steven Whybrow SC, Bruce Lehrmann’s barrister, said to this newspaper: “Ms Higgins was asked by the police to not do media until she’d spoken to the police. Now if she’d listened to the police, if they had taken a statement from her and then gone and arrested Bruce, The Project wouldn’t have been able to play their interview because it would’ve been a breach of sub judice rules about outstanding criminal charges. But by doing it this way, he was out there, he was already the man who raped Brittany Higgins.”
Indeed, there are several extremely important protections available to complainants, such as the right to remain anonymous, that would have been available to Higgins had she followed the usual criminal justice process.
Tanya Plibersek spoke of a “rape”, not an “alleged rape”, in parliament. Prime minister Scott Morrison apologised to Higgins for the things that happened in Parliament House. It was nothing short of grotesque.
The effect of the Higgins-Sharaz media and political campaign was not merely to put themselves in the spotlight but to deprive Lehrmann of the presumption of innocence and the due process a normal criminal justice investigation would have given him.
The inference is open that they wanted to convict Lehrmann in the media, whatever a jury decided. This dreadful strategy drove Lehrmann, not surprisingly, to the edge of suicide. Not that the Higgins-Sharaz media cheer squad seemed to care one jot about this. Just another necessary victim of the movement, the hardheads of #MeToo no doubt would have thought.
This strategy caused terrible collateral damage to others, too. Reynolds’s health suffered terribly after Higgins made unfounded accusations against her. Similar claims led Brown to wade into the surf one day, planning to swim out to drown or be taken by a shark. She was saved by a nearby surfer who asked if she was OK, took her hand and led her back to the beach.
And never forget that Kimberley Kitching died of a suspected heart attack after being bullied by a group of Labor women she dubbed the “mean girls”.
Katy Gallagher was one of the trio of mean girls, along with Penny Wong and Kristina Keneally, who targeted Kitching reportedly because she was horrified that Labor women were planning to weaponise a rape allegation for ugly political purposes.
When is too much for these people? How they can live with any of these events that followed the deliberately chosen and carefully considered media and political strategy of Higgins and Sharaz is for them and their consciences.
Now the tide has turned. As would always happen, the media being free and all. Higgins, Sharaz and their media supporters cannot credibly complain that uncomfortable questions are being asked or that new information is being exposed by this newspaper.
Fiona Brown: ‘The worst thing you can say to a woman is she walked past another woman’s rape’.
Yet, incredibly, some are. Hearing Higgins’s support club in the media wail about privacy and leaked material rings hollow indeed given the role they played in upturning the presumption of innocence.
They continue to overlook the uncomfortable reality that Higgins deliberately chose, and was egged on by these same journalists, to make this affair a matter for the media and the political class.
They went against the advice of the police. They trashed Lehrmann’s right to the presumption of innocence. They targeted Reynolds and Brown, uninterested in describing their support for Higgins fairly and honestly.
Where is the gnashing of teeth about Wilkinson and producer Angus Llewellyn, caught in the five-hour audio discussing Higgins’s plan to tape a private conversation she had with senator Michaelia Cash?
This has a long way to run. Yet too many in the media are still unable to engage their critical faculties, let alone display professional journalism, in case it interferes with their #MeToo advocacy.
Remarkable features of the cosy and unquestioning relationship between The Project and the Higgins-Sharaz team have attracted insufficient attention to date.
Consider the emails exchanged between Wilkinson and Sharaz headed “#MeToo Liberal Party Project Pitch”. And consider this: in a text to Higgins, Sharaz reveals that The Project had given him an advance copy of the final Wilkinson-Higgins interview at least four days before it went to air, and that he had given it to Gallagher.
Hypocrisy of Olympic level heights has abounded in this affair and no doubt there is much room for more. Will the Albanese government, which championed a new era of transparency and honesty at the election, condone what appears to be a clear case of Gallagher, at minimum, misleading parliament?
What about the teals? These apparent paragons of virtue appear to have gone missing in action on Gallagher’s dubious statements, not to mention the need for the new National Anti-Corruption Commission to examine the circumstances of Higgins’s multimillion-dollar, uncontested payout.
Given Labor’s relentless weaponisation of the rape allegation, Australians are entitled to ask: was Labor’s motive, in making this payment to Higgins, one of paying for services rendered?
Whatever happens, the more honest brokers will ask themselves: would any of this have happened if Higgins had taken police advice not to speak to the media?

Link.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2023 7:28 am

Cormac McCarthy brown bread.
The man could write.
Just don’t read or watch The Road.
PTSD material.

Beertruk
June 14, 2023 7:30 am

Being obsessed like that is like being fat, drunk and stupid, it’s no way to go through life.

‘I can’t believe I threw up in front of Dean Wormer.’
‘You threw up ON Dean Wormer.’

Bloody hilarious movie.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:31 am

Sorry to hear about your friend, mem. Clearly anxious for a showdown, even something as minor as Djokovic. Waiting for the slip up, auditioning scenarios.

We all do that “what if-ing” a little bit but when it happens think, why bother I’ll enjoy myself instead. Not so the doctrinaire numbskull. They would prefer to preside over an ocean of broken friendships rather than concede an inch in their narrow thinking.

So…a stale relationship founders after forty years. Time for a few fresh, happy ones to take its place. Plenty of people out there just waiting for a friend like you to come along.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 14, 2023 7:35 am

The photo of the mean girls in the article Tom posted is sickening.
Cackling witches.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:40 am

Good work from Albrechtsen.

Just another necessary victim of the movement

It mirrors mem’s experience yesterday.

There are some very unstable, ruthless people out there who will do anything to get their way. You imagine sociopaths are relatively rare, but they aren’t. They’re just undiagnosed.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 7:41 am

The Nottingham attacker…a West African male migrant with a long history of violence. This male should not have been in the UK.

Only GB News is reporting any facts, the mainstream media isn’t, instead they’re doing what they do best now….hide facts, and gaslight.

Great times we live in.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2023 8:01 am

Racist door bells are a problem.

If Amazon Thinks You’re a Racist, It Will Shut Down Your Smart Home (13 Jun)

A package was delivered to my house on Wednesday, May 24, and everything seemed fine. The following day, however, I found that my Echo Show had signed out, and I was unable to interact with my smart home devices…

When I connected with the executive, they asked if I knew why my account had been locked. When I answered I was unsure, their tone turned somewhat accusatory. I was told that the driver who had delivered my package reported receiving racist remarks from my “Ring doorbell”

Brandon Jackson, a Microsoft software engineer, who is writing this is actually black.

I reviewed the footage and confirmed that no such comments had been made. Instead, the Eufy doorbell had issued an automated response: “Excuse me, can I help you?”

Offend Amazon and your Kindle won’t work, your books, music and movies will be inaccessible and you may even have trouble getting in and out of your house.

Maybe saying “excuse me, can I help you” is considered racist now. After all if you are implying that someone needs free help that would make them a slave owner or something.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 8:03 am
132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2023 8:07 am

bespoke says:
June 14, 2023 at 6:57 am

In the end, voters and tweeps, want to see campaign promises actually kept. They are tired of all talk and no action. All presidential candidates need to be ready to convince voters they are ready to work and reform.

Unless it was deliberately put out this means De Santis has a leaker in his team already.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 8:08 am

The thirst is real boys.

US Army e girl. The airsoft ones are the ones where dumb 17-year-olds sign up and die for a crumbling empire.

https://www.instagram.com/haylujan/?hl=en

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 8:12 am

Bruce of Newcastlesays:
June 14, 2023 at 8:01 am

All my home automation stuff runs on open source software. So no chance of it happening to me. I have high regard for those nerd coders. Thay are the on the front line against intrusive technology.

132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2023 8:16 am

Farmer Gez says:
June 14, 2023 at 8:03 am

You are kidding.

I’m getting a “Page does not exist”.
Or is that your point?

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 8:17 am

With the attack in Nottingham yesterday, just like the attack in France last week (when babies had their throats slashed), when the news come in, we must ask ourselves a simple question….

What is the media not telling us?

The “Christian” stabber in France turns out to be a Muslim, for one.

Waiting for a correction from the ABC.

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 8:18 am

I reckon it was deliberate, Bush.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
June 14, 2023 8:18 am

Anko What-
there are 45 000 registered “cancer” charities in Australia. You read that right, 45 thousand. I’ve got no idea how many, if any, are only involved in palliative measures or “raising awareness”, but I’ve got no doubt at all that the search for a cure is flush with funds, and with many shoulders to the wheel accross government, hospitals and universities.
Apropos Voice, contrast to “Aboriginal Knowledge”. Every two-bit university has run a plump department of Aboriginal Studies since the 70’s, every schoolkid follows the national curriculum prescription of learning about Aboriginal “ways of knowing”, tourist operators abound in getting outward bound and hearing stories about bush food and girls who turned into birds or boulders to escape rapacious men…
And yet, as bought home in WA right now, there seems to be no source of facts available. No almanak of the “six seasons”, no registry of sacred sites, no dictionaries of local language. All that research has yielded nothing.
Aboriginal Health Services- which abound- seem to do nothing but hold a “cltural care” dot-paint doily over the wreckage of infantilized adults. Overeating, bludging, binging, bashing, car crashing. They run away from the insight that Western-style affluence has to be tempered by western-style personal responsibility- and they offer no “cultural” solutions.
Point is, I’m a bit sick of the Aboriginal industry getting carte blanche, and giving back nothing.
It adds up to the deliberate hermeticization of Aboriginal Culture.
Indeed it’s not a bug, it’s an essential feature of the WA Aboriginal Cultural Heritage act.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 8:19 am

Hey Bush – while your here.
Farm question.
Which parallelogram seeder do you think is best for trash and sticky heavy soils?
We’re looking at Horsch Sprinter, Bourgault PHD and Simplicity Territory.
All half a mill as you know.

132andBush
132andBush
June 14, 2023 8:19 am

Hope so.
Will see a firing if it wasn’t.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 8:19 am

It might be about this, 132andbush.

Apparently it’s now “dangerous” to object to trannies in women’s sports.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 8:20 am

No society has ever withstood such moral degeneracy, and no society will ever withstand such moral degeneracy.

New Gallup poll: 55% of Americans disapprove of transgenderism, 4 pts up from 2021.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 14, 2023 8:23 am

I’m getting a “Page does not exist”.

Here’s a working link Bushie.

https://twitter.com/ritapanahi/status/1668440849095741440

The incident is reported elsewhere to, including at Breitbart:

Transgender Activist Defends Sexual Display at the White House: ‘Free the Nipple’ (13 Jun)

There’s no level of depravity that the Left won’t stoop to.

Cliff Boof
Cliff Boof
June 14, 2023 8:23 am

Cormac McCarthy wrote sentences my high school English teacher would not have approved. A wordsmith no less.

“Elton came out and stood on the porch with his hands in his back pockets and his hat on. “

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 8:23 am

Sorry folks if it’s a dud link.
Go to Rita’s Twitter site and look for the pride flag/White House post.
Perversion on display.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 8:24 am

there are 45 000 registered “cancer” charities in Australia. You read that right, 45 thousand. I’ve got no idea how many, if any, are only involved in palliative measures or “raising awareness”, but I’ve got no doubt at all that the search for a cure is flush with funds, and with many shoulders to the wheel accross government, hospitals and universities.

It’s bizarre, isn’t it?

The only cancer research charity I raise money for is one where I know the people involved and it’s for the purchase of a specific piece of equipment, simple things like refrigeration.

Not interested in contributing to medical slush funds.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 8:34 am

You imagine sociopaths are relatively rare, but they aren’t. They’re just undiagnosed.

Sociopaths are relatively rare, thankfully.

People who’ll throw someone under a bus to further themselves or their agenda aren’t necessarily sociopaths, but they are bad people. Incurvatus in se. Garden variety evil.

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