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The Death of King Arthur, James Archer, 1860

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Anchor What
Anchor What
June 14, 2023 1:39 pm

Blondie on Daytime Sky:
“Will the politicisation of the Brittany case discourage rape victims from coming forward?”
Eh?
The lesson is that B should have “come forward” in the first place, not conspired with others to “politicise” the case!!!

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 14, 2023 1:44 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 14, 2023 at 11:54 am
Is the pay rate still thirty pieces of silver …

You’d have a better handle on that than I.
Who are Jesus, Peter and Mary in your little morality play, Skidmark?

Those who have told the fewest lies.

That excludes you, Mizzz Knickerless, Shiraz, the Cane Toad, the Mean Girls, AnAl, ScoMo, and most of the media.

PS, you need to improve the standard of your insults. Skidmark is so juvenile, almost kindy level.

Vicki
Vicki
June 14, 2023 1:49 pm

Tucker Carlson (on his new Twitter channel) has called the persecution of Donald Trump as one of the most serious attacks on the electoral process yet seen. And he identifies Republicans as well as Democrats in the process.

Worth listening to.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1668747661028081664?cxt=HHwWgIC-tYDKyqguAAAA

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 1:54 pm

Don’t the candidates have to be from different states?

Trump can be from NY or anywhere he can afford to own a palace.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
June 14, 2023 1:55 pm

Mystifying tactics from the Liberal Party, it just confirms to female voters that Ms Higgins was telling it like it is.

Female voters will remember the steam cleaned office that wasn’t steam cleaned, the doctors visit that mystically never actually happened, the wiped phone and deleted images, the polimuppets that never knew anything but actually got copies of the interview in advance and it goes on.

And they will ask themselves, is this the hill we wanted #beleiveallwomen to die on.

Remember how the feminists told us that if only there were more women in politics it would be a gentler place with more integrity. #theylied

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 14, 2023 1:56 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 14, 2023 at 12:38 pm
Andrew Bragg is just trying to get the Liberal Party to focus on the real issue.

Why the hell is Dutton trying to nail Katy Gallagher to a tree for her part in supporting Ms Higgins?

It just confirms Higgins assertion that the Liberal Party supported Lehrmann and left her for dead.

No, idiot. The “real issue” is the destruction of the rule of law and presumption of innocence to provide support for a Labor political campaign slogan, about a supposed “woman problem” in the Liberal Party.

Actions which you have avidly supported in your shilling for Labor.

Don’t forget to send Labor your latest invoice for another thirty pieces of silver.

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 1:58 pm

Ultimately, however, we may never know the full story of this case, because once it stopped being a case of Christian terrorism, it no longer fit the media paradigm. Another Muslim migrant in Europe runs around stabbing random people? That’s not news; that’s an all too familiar feature of life in the brave new multicultural Europe.

Vicki
Vicki
June 14, 2023 1:59 pm

In my area, I am just as likely to round a bend and come up against Gez or Bush in their big blue Jim Deer tractor towing some unfathomable piece of agricultural kit at 25 kmh.
I don’t regard them as a nuisance.

Sancho – we, too, have our neighbours drive tractors, ATVs along the roads adjacent to agricultural land.
Our immediate neighbour, who has acreage spread at different locations, also regularly has his guys drive sizeable Angus herds along the road. His station manager always has temporary signs placed to warn motorists. The dangerous mileage in our vicinity is through the mountain roads leading down into our valley.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 14, 2023 2:00 pm

Indigenous affairs minister Linda Burney compares Aussies voting ‘NO’ in the Voice to Parliament to Trump supporters

Daily Mail

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 2:03 pm

3 years and 3 months “into” a “pandemic” we have removed virtually all vestiges of that era and public institutions are scrapping COVID etc rules.

I want to see how long the COVID vaccines remain a thing for.

I lost a promotion over this shit. Others lost a lot more.

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 2:03 pm

Today’s Tucker Carlson on Twitter video has just clicked over on 10 million views. Well done, Mudrock kiddies!

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 2:08 pm

Hmmm

https://theintercept.com/2023/03/01/us-israel-iran-war-plan/

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2006/04/17/the-iran-plans

…so Trump should go to gaol for possessing the later plans made behind his back?!

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 2:08 pm

I lost a promotion over this shit.

I will soon get a Mil as a permanent resident.

P
P
June 14, 2023 2:10 pm

Indigenous affairs minister Linda Burney compares Aussies voting ‘NO’ in the Voice to Parliament to Trump supporters

Daily Mail

No reset for Yes campaign despite drop in support for Voice
CathNews – 14 June 2023

Linda Burney and supporters of an Indigenous Voice to Parliament are rejecting calls to reset the Yes campaign or delay the referendum, with the Indigenous Australians Minister declaring Australia has come too far to turn back now. Source: The Australian.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 2:12 pm

Those Iran war plans are shocking, really.

There’s no upper age limit in theory to ADF recruiting and if there needs to be conscription, the selectiveness on minor ailments will invariably go down.

Some idiot in the White House might execute an Iran war plan and some idiot here in the Lodge might dutifully get involved in a significant, single-theatre war.

It is a very remote possibility but a swathe of society here could get caught up in this end-of-history crap.

Maman
Maman
June 14, 2023 2:12 pm

“3 years and 3 months ‘into’ a ‘pandemic’” and the relative for whom I have PoA, and am carer/advocate, visit every 2nd day which entails a 230k round trip is still not allowed to have me visit her in the Vic Gov Residential Aged Care Home! My relative is permitted to be taken out into the clear air and sunshine, to walk under the trees, listen to the birds and chat with normal people walking their dogs and watch children playing ONLY as long as I wear a mask and show a negative RAT.
And the local state member says that the ‘facility’ can set in place any restrictions they deem necassary.

Johnny Rotten
June 14, 2023 2:15 pm

What has a bottom at the top?

Answer: Your legs

Maman
Maman
June 14, 2023 2:18 pm

That is because I “cannot show a valid vaccination certificate”. My relative will be permitted to have those w/o a vax cert visit her in the home when her days here on earth are coming to a close. Bit too late to make any difference to improving the quality of her life by then.

Johnny Rotten
June 14, 2023 2:19 pm

Tucker Understands – Washington Loves Wars – Endless Wars

https://twitter.com/i/status/1668747661028081664

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 14, 2023 2:19 pm

Go do some vacuuming.
I dropped some corn chips behind the couch in the sun-room.

Yep. Got ’em this morning.

You must be psychic. Corn chips out there were from three weeks ago.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 14, 2023 2:23 pm

ps I don’t do vacuuming, that’s Hairy’s department, although now we leave it mostly to the cleaners. I do have a very easy to use dustpan and brush set both on a 3ft handle which does most pick up jobs now.
In the US they call these gadgets ‘hall monitors’.

Behind that sofa on the terrace room is one the cleaners must have missed.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 2:25 pm

“3 years and 3 months ‘into’ a ‘pandemic’” and the relative for whom I have PoA, and am carer/advocate, visit every 2nd day which entails a 230k round trip is still not allowed to have me visit her in the Vic Gov Residential Aged Care Home! My relative is permitted to be taken out into the clear air and sunshine, to walk under the trees, listen to the birds and chat with normal people walking their dogs and watch children playing ONLY as long as I wear a mask and show a negative RAT.
And the local state member says that the ‘facility’ can set in place any restrictions they deem necassary.

Completely ridiculous. I feel very sorry for you to be treated like a criminal.

bons
bons
June 14, 2023 2:26 pm

So what is Photios’s game sending out the ‘Moderate’ whores like Bragg to try to scotch the Brittany pursuit.
Why do I ask. His motivation is always the same. Prevent any threats to the associates renewable ‘investments’.
Putrid.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 14, 2023 2:28 pm

Our sun room has a breakfast table and chairs, plus a fridge and BBQ, but no sofa, so your psychic vibes were close but not quite there. The terrace room where the wicker sofa and chairs are located wasn’t actually used last Sunday, people stayed on the open verandah to watch the sunset over the harbour and then retreated into the living room for the warmth.

But you have hidden talents there, Sancho. Have you also tried water divining? 🙂

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 2:30 pm

Mask madnes still ongoing. At the doctors today me and an elderly chap the only ones without.

Pogria
Pogria
June 14, 2023 2:32 pm

Dot, Maman and Bespoke,
I had to visit my doctor this morning. The office is in a small country town. The door is locked. A receptionist comes to the door with a mask which you have to wear. The doctor wears a mask, I have to wear a mask. WTF? At least this time I wasn’t asked if my stab was up to date. They do ask if you have the sniffles or if you have been near anybody who has been crook.
It has been THREE YEARS!!! It’s over.
I understand paranoid city dwellers, but this is the country for f#cks sake.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 14, 2023 2:33 pm

Completely ridiculous. I feel very sorry for you to be treated like a criminal.

And sorry for your poor relative too, who has to be surrounded by masked people. Removing faces from social life is like removing a part of people’s souls, imho.

The male carer/driver for the schizo mother of one of my grandsons always has to wear a mask too. She doesn’t as she lives in her own public housing flat and she doesn’t wear one in his car either.

It’s an ongoing madness.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2023 2:41 pm

Linda Burney would have slotted straight into the Whitlam Cabinet. They wouldn’t have missed a beat.

Maman
Maman
June 14, 2023 2:41 pm

I would be interested to hear from cats about differing leadership ‘styles’. From what I see, Leadership/management in aged care seems to be more and more dominated by female registered nurses. In particular, those in public aged care seem more risk averse than those non-medical male managers from 20 years ago. Some of the female registered nurses even appear to be in ‘thrall’ to the Vic Premier. It has been an eye-opening 3 years. How do people come back from the crushing, utterly devastating loss of a relative, one of the 800+, who died in those early pandemic days? How do relatives reconcile such callous and abhorrent human behaviour?

P
P
June 14, 2023 2:41 pm

Behind the Lens at Walk with Christ 2023

The Catholic Weekly’s photographer Giovanni Portelli breaks down some of his favourite shots and moments from the 2023 Walk with Christ

Walk with Christ is one of Australia’s largest annual gathering of Catholics. What’s it like to shoot such a gigantic event? Well for starters, it’s a big mission to photograph. Just like in an action film I have to prepare myself and the equipment before embarking. I can’t bring my rolling camera bag and so I have to pack lightly and prepare for a lot of running, climbing and darting around.

Johnny Rotten
June 14, 2023 2:46 pm

Mamansays:
June 14, 2023 at 2:18 pm
That is because I “cannot show a valid vaccination certificate”. My relative will be permitted to have those w/o a vax cert visit her in the home when her days here on earth are coming to a close. Bit too late to make any difference to improving the quality of her life by then.

I never got jabbed and I waited for the World to wake up before travelling again. I have just spent 9 days in lovely Queenstown on the NZ South Island. No need for any ‘Jab Certificate. No need for any Virus Test. No need for any mask. The people that you are dealing with are barking Mad and Control Freaks. IMHO.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2023 2:47 pm

The whole Brittany saga feels like an ALPBC remake of A Bonfire of the Vanities set in Canberra and written by Wile E Coyote.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 14, 2023 2:50 pm

the Indigenous Australians Minister declaring Australia has come too far to turn back now. Source: The Australian.

Good. Ramp up the NO campaign hard and fast, let it fail, and let this be the end of all Constitutional change for aboriginal recognition talk. End the special pleading by aboriginal elite members who have done well out of failing to suitably address the existing misery. Provide proper assistance where it is needed most and start to educate the children out of tribal worldviews and into employment. Stop all the romantic nonsense in schools throughout the nation about aboriginal traditions and ‘fake’ welcomes to country.

Encourage instead the writing of traditional aboriginal fables into stories that children can read just as they read the folk stories of all traditional cultures. That’s enough cultural heritage needed for a hunter-gatherer people with a necessarily unpleasant and isolated culture, and it would be something authentic to have some pride in. Reprinting Mary Durack’s wonderful children’s tale of two aboriginal children, so dramatically illustrated by Elizabeth Durack’s paintings. Retelling the story of their adventures in ‘The Way of the Whirlwind’ would do good justice to aboriginal traditions. No Bruce Pascoe-isms needed there.

Maman
Maman
June 14, 2023 2:54 pm

Please ignore previous comments re aged care. Best to look for the sunshine which has appeared at last.

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 2:54 pm

Mask madness still ongoing. At the doctors today me and an elderly chap the only ones without.

Yep. Masking after all this time is a mental illness like leftism. My local health centre and the major regional hospital near me — both of which I have had to visit in the past month — are enemy zones, policed by mask Karens.

I feel like one of the Jap soldiers who hid in the jungles of the Philippines for years after World War II. The enemy are still everywhere.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 14, 2023 3:01 pm

Check out Elizabeth Durack’s beautiful artworks that accompany ‘The Way of the Whirlwind’.
Totally imaginative and entirely appropriate for traditional aboriginal culture. A woman I know held this book as her favourite throughout her childhood, and there are many like her. As noted at the end of the text in this link, ‘the gatekeepers’ however have now moved in on this great work. Set it free again.

Johnny Rotten
June 14, 2023 3:03 pm

Word of Warning – They Can’t Put Trump in Prison But They Can You for Protesting

“This will be a day remembered in the history of the entire world. It is the day that the United States indicted and arrested a former president to prevent him from running in the 2024 election. Even Richard Nixon was pardoned because they fear that the civil unrest that might unfold would tear the fabric of the nation apart. Today, the Department of Justice is praying for anything to start to arrest anyone protesting for Trump and call them a domestic terrorist to set an example by striking fear into the heart of people to vote for Biden and shut the hell up. This was the day that the United States begins its decline and fall.

The Arrest of Donald Trump on charges related to the alleged mishandling of classified documents has demonstrated to the world that the United States is no longer the beacon of liberty and justice for all. Besides Biden having classified documents, taking actual bribes, and Hillary setting up a private server on which there were also classified documents so nothing she had on that would be accessible under the Freedom of Information Act because it was private – not government. This has clearly shown that the Biden Administration has weaponized the Department of Justice just like every other corrupt government including Ukraine – Zelensky criminally charge his opponent as well.

Today marks the very first time a former president has ever been arrested by the U.S. government. Trump pleaded not guilty to all charges. MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber reports was so excited, it probably pissed his pants. No doubt the jubilation is static at CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, etc, etc. As they said when Rome fell, they too were still laughing.

ANY Republican politician that abandons Trump you now know their true colors. The reason why, the rumor running around is that the DOJ is cheering for they intend to indict Trump supporters on whatever scheme they can make up before the 2024 election. So you will see, Republican throwing Trump under the bus. This is a warning to anyone who thinks they really can drain the swamp. DeSantis – please stay here in Florida. You will NEVER make a difference in that town. The time for declaring the Democracy of Florida is rapidly approaching.

And to those who hate Trump, this has nothing to do with Trump. If the Republican gain power, they will retaliate with the same vengeance and lack of rule of law. We have crossed the Rubicon. As for the RINOS who will not defend the country, the constitution, or even speak up about the weaponizing of the DOJ against political opponents, we now know who you really are and you do not stand by the Constitution. We live in a full-blow authoritarian dictatorship. As even the cartoons use to sign off – That’s All folks! We now have less than 8 years left. Protesting will do nothing at this point, The Die has been Cast, as Caesar said when crossing the Rubicon. There is absolutely nothing we can do to reverse the trend.”

Perhaps the line from Bohemian Rhapsody – Nothing Really Matters Any More – Is becoming the New National Anthem

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/word-of-warning-they-cant-put-trump-in-prison-but-they-can-you-for-protesting/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 3:08 pm

With all due respect to those with a man crush John Wick. Violent Christmas makes his movies look pedestrian.

Pogria
Pogria
June 14, 2023 3:12 pm

Bespoke,
I haven’t heard of violent Christmas. Was it in the cinema or is it on dvd?

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 3:14 pm

Netflix, Pogria.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 14, 2023 3:17 pm

Speaking of “completely ridiculous” COVID stuff, try this on for size… this has happened twice in the past two weeks whilst I have been touring aged care facilities run by different organisations. So it must be the actual policy of some public serpent moron somewhere.

Me : Hello, I’m here to see…
Reception : Have you done a negative RAT?
Me : No, why?
Reception : We have a COVID outbreak on Ward X, which is in quarantine. No admission to the facility without a negative RAT.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 3:17 pm

Buccaneer at 1:55.

Female voters will remember the steam cleaned office that wasn’t steam cleaned, the doctors visit that mystically never actually happened, the wiped phone and deleted images, the polimuppets that never knew anything but actually got copies of the interview in advance and it goes on.

Unsurprisingly, Googlery doesn’t understand women, only having Mummy as a reference point.
This is why prosecutors traditonally are very careful about selecting women on rape juries.
If they get the slightest sniff that the complainant might be playing a bit fast and loose with the truth, they turn very quickly and don’t come back.
And that is where we are.
So running the “women problem” line isn’t going to cut it this time around.

Pogria
Pogria
June 14, 2023 3:18 pm

Thanks Bespoke. Will have to wait until it is available on dvd. I refuse to have any form of pay tv.
Although I have been tempted by BritBox.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 14, 2023 3:18 pm

Tony Thomas pulls no punches over at Quadrant:

Voicing Non-Solutions to Aboriginal Violence

Domestic violence and dysfunction in outback communities contribute to the off-the-scale removals of Aboriginal kids from their mothers, as detailed yesterday in the first installment of this three-part series. In 2021, 6.5 per cent of Aborigines in the Northern Territory — that’s one in 15 — and 4 per cent in SA were victims of domestic assaults. In NSW and Queensland, domestic sexual assaults were reported at the rate of about one a day.

Two examples below are from some years back, but judging by intermittent news reports, communities like Nhulunbuy and Alice Springs in today’s Australia might be equivalent. (Assaults, domestic assaults and grog-fuelled violence at Nhulunbuy all roughly doubled in the past year.)

? In 2013, the Sydney Morning Herald‘s Rachel Olding and Nick Ralston checked the figures and reeported that Bourke, in north-west NSW, was more dangerous on crime rates than any country tabulated by the United Nations. Bourke’s population of 3000 was a third Aboriginal, and the assaults, break-ins and theft were on-going despite the town’s huge squad of 40 police.

? Roebourne, in north-west WA, earned the 2017 headline “Town of the damned”. Of its population of 1400, more than half were Aboriginal. WA Police Commissioner Karl O’Callaghan revealed Roebourne’s ‘staggering’ rate of sex-abuse of children, in a town likewise riddled with alcohol, drugs and violence. In a nine-month drive, police charged 36 men with more than 300 offences against 184 children. Another 100 men were suspected but not charged. Many were using their lavish welfare payments to buy drugs to lure kids for sex. The Commissioner called it a “war zone” with little kids as the victims. The scale of abuse was beyond anything his force had ever seen. Kids were more likely to be raped in Roebourne than almost anywhere else on earth.[1]

That can all be contrasted with the soft words in 2022’s Family Matters Report by a large consortium of Aboriginal groups working with Monash and UTS universities…

More here…

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 14, 2023 3:19 pm

Twas thinking about the recent leftie journos who reference terms such as ‘partially racist’. Like being ‘partially pregnant’. Which led me to think about how the term Nazi is banded around. Is it also possible therefore to be ‘partially Nazi’. If so then surely there is a Nazi spectrum.

So where do people sit on the Nazi spectrum?

At one end, full on headbanging, goosestepping, socialist supremism with a penchant for invading their neighbours

…all the way through to the other end ..

believing there is only 2 sexes and people should be tolerant of others no matter how bat-shit-crazy they may be.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 14, 2023 3:19 pm

banded, bandied… meh

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
June 14, 2023 3:20 pm

Mask madness still ongoing.

Local GP’s policy is now “you only have to wear a mask if you’re unwell”.

Lysander
Lysander
June 14, 2023 3:23 pm

I always thought Berlusconi would live forever?

shatterzzz
June 14, 2023 3:26 pm

28 years old and dead because of inadequate care! .. can’t believe this operation getz off with a fine rather than criminal negligence charges .. just classed as breaching NDIS code of conduct & safety provisions .. not even a license suspension just payz the money and business as usual .. FFS!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-14/ndis-provider-fined-after-resident-bath-death/102478372

local oaf
June 14, 2023 3:26 pm

Johnny Rotten says:
June 14, 2023 at 2:15 pm

What has a bottom at the top?

Answer: Your legs

There’s a Goon Show episode where Bluebottle is in the water and is asked “Are your feet touching the bottom?”

He replies “No, but the legs are” 🙂

shatterzzz
June 14, 2023 3:33 pm

I want to see how long the COVID vaccines remain a thing for.

Don'[t know about the vaccine but the, standard, face nappies & full face welders are still doing well out in Fairfield NSW …..

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 3:42 pm

Unsurprisingly, Googlery doesn’t understand women, only having Mummy as a reference point.
This is why prosecutors traditonally are very careful about selecting women on rape juries.
If they get the slightest sniff that the complainant might be playing a bit fast and loose with the truth, they turn very quickly and don’t come back.

So in conclusion, prosecutors rely on traditional conservative men to white-knight and cuck themselves; in short, tradcucks.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 3:45 pm

Nungaree and Jungaree looked down upon the wonders of the earth

Wow, very cool.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 14, 2023 3:49 pm

The Liberals must have proof Albanese knew about the Higgins Affair before Feb 15 2021, judging by the questions they’re asking.
The wind is right out of Tanya’s sails.
She looks ghastly.
Not seeing how any of this helps with their Women Problem, though?

shatterzzz
June 14, 2023 3:51 pm

With all due respect to those with a man crush John Wick. Violent Christmas makes his movies look pedestrian.

Is the title right , Violent Christmas .. or is it this one .. Violent Night ..?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12003946/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 3:51 pm

Ed’s talking about women again…..
The scent of formaldehyde hangs in the air.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2023 3:54 pm

Sounds like Roebourne has gone downhill since I was there as a 4yo.

Gutho
Gutho
June 14, 2023 3:54 pm

There is a Goon Show episode called “SCRADJE” (First broadcast on March 13, 1956). which appears to be a blueprint for the Great Global Warming Hoax
“Moriarty. Gentlemen, these boot explosions are caused by a weakening in Britain’s deposits of Scradje.
Hairy Scot: Scradje? Did you say ‘Scradje’, the noo?
Moriarty: Scradje is a substance found beneath the earth’s surface. This Scradje radiates upwards, keeping level with the Gulf Stream, and keeps the pressure on the earth’s surface at an even level, thus preventing boots from exploding. Unfortunately, Britain’s Scradje deposits are rapidly losing their potency, with the results that have now become apparent. “

This is as plausible as cow’s farts in Australia are causing the Arctic ice to melt

The episode can be found at https://www.hexmaster.com/goonscripts/s06e26.pdf.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2023 3:55 pm

The scent of formaldehyde hangs in the air.

Groogs No 5.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 14, 2023 3:56 pm

Liberal Party haven’t got a Women Problem?
Have a geek at the assortment of porridge faced Lezzos that won Liberal Seats at the Election?
There’s about 20 of them.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 3:56 pm

OH MY GOD YOU JOURNALISTS ARE FICKUNG RETARDED

https://english.elpais.com/culture/2023-01-11/why-are-gen-z-men-obsessed-with-the-main-character-of-american-psycho.html

For many, Patrick Bateman is no metaphor. These worshipers do not care if his creator’s goal was to ridicule or represent in the crudest possible way precisely what they glorify. Bateman, for them, belongs to a gallery of idols that, as journalist Brad Esposito explained in an article for the Australian edition of Vice magazine, also includes Tyler Durden from Fight Club, Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker and Jordan Belfort from The Wolf of Wall Street. Guys who are outside the system and play “by their own rules,” broken toys on the fringes of society, in an endless battle against a world that is alien and hostile to them.

These Patrick Bateman worshipers are a chaotic tribe that includes everyone from modern stoics to gym freaks, guys obsessed with controlling their habits, militant misogynists, internet trolls, regulars of 4chan or Reddit, anti-wokes, far-right voters and staunch critics of Marvel’s attempts to diversify its audience. These are the people who are using Bateman’s image to represent themselves, without giving a second’s thought to the true intentions of Ellis, who, in a display of intelligence and irony, saw what was coming before anyone else.

NO NO NO NO NO

Bateman is a poor bastard that tries too hard to fit in and he is NOT a role model. NOR DOES ANYONE WANT TO BE THE JOKER YOU CRIMINALLY DUMB IDIOTS. People understand why people snap. People sympathise with the character. You ought to do your best to avoid the same fate. If there is civil unrest, the conclusion is, well, what did you expect? Not making pointless motherhood statements of outrage.

So basically men that are not too feminine for feminist women to date and actually be attracted to. The notion that Marvel needed “diversification” vis a vis blackwashing is extremely bigoted against black and latino people. It is the epitome of stupid identity politics and apartheid.

Patrick Bateman is ultimately, quite delusional. No one is trying to become schizophrenic, paranoid and unable to free themselves of the expectations of other people.

They are rejecting that en masse, bucket-jawed, ratchet-mouthed far-left “journalists” can’t help shitting on real men who can think for themselves.

Is there any discussion about the mythical Paul Allen or Evelyn Williams and what she represents? No. Or why Bateman didn’t kill Jean? Or how the PI and him actually prolong the investigation because they both have found a friend?

No, just more shallow river horse-inspired colonic relief towards the reading audience.

[The other reason is that the movie is a timeless classic, very poignant and very funny. Christian Bale is the new top dog in Hollywood too so he has become recognisable to multiple generations.]

local oaf
June 14, 2023 4:03 pm

I was pleasantly surprised by a recent visit to the quack for routine scripts (first time I was allowed into the building since 2021).
No-one in the waiting room was masked, no mask required in the quack’s consulting room.
He never mentioned the jab at all, despite knowing I was unjabbed and barely even raised an eyebrow when I turned down a flu-jab.

The whole experience was surreal and kind of disorienting after the treatment received in recent years.
Almost like he’d had a software update and re-boot.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 4:03 pm

Chris Bowen made the farmers present in the HoR gallery yesterday have a laugh.
In response to a question from Nationals Anne Webster, he stated that AEMO had listened to land holders concerns and the new path for the VNI West transmission takes it away from Charlton.
The actual map of the new 5A option covers more of the Charlton area than before.
Chris knows facts, even when they’re not real – the Voices speak to him.

Hugh
Hugh
June 14, 2023 4:03 pm

pure white is the absence of colour

That is true in the case of subtractive colour mixing, whereas in additive colour mixing the opposite is true.

Johnny Rotten
June 14, 2023 4:05 pm

If I don’t run for president, we’ll all be OK.

– Joe Biden

Trouble is, the Dickhead did. And we are NOT OK. JR said that.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 4:07 pm

The wind is right out of Tanya’s sails.
She looks ghastly.

No change there then.

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 4:08 pm

Violent Night.

Cheers shatterzzz.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 4:08 pm

How do I turn that damn thing off?

Vicki
Vicki
June 14, 2023 4:09 pm

Leadership/management in aged care seems to be more and more dominated by female registered nurses. In particular, those in public aged care seem more risk averse than those non-medical male managers from 20 years ago. Some of the female registered nurses even appear to be in ‘thrall’ to the Vic Premie

There is a certain type of woman who seems attracted to the power that leadership roles in medical facilities confers. They are humourless, authoritarian and “strictly by the book” – or whatever that currently is the rule of the day.

Many years ago I had a persistent cough after recovering from a minor cold. But as I was travelling to Italy I sought some sort of cough suppressant to avoid the discomfort of other passengers on my flight. My regular GP was on leave & was temporarily replaced by one of these harridans. She decided I had Pertussis (Whooping Cough) – which was nonsense. But not only did she refuse to prescribe any sort of relief, but informed me that she would report my condition to the relevant authorities! She was outraged when I (also outraged!) informed her that “those in white coats were no longer regarded as infallible “and promptly departed the surgery.

Nothing official came of the interaction, & I consumed a lot of cough lollies on the plane! The cough was gone in a few days. Apparently, so was she.

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:10 pm

Before Fox News sacked him, Tucker Carlson Tonight – produced by several dozen people with a big corporate budget – was rating three million sets of eyeballs per weeknight. That is, 15 million viewers per week for around four hours of product without the ad breaks.

So far, the 13-minute video Carlson recorded earlier today with a single cameraman pointing a lens at him in a makeshift studio has attracted 17.5 million viewers.

The Murdoch children are the dumbest third generation to have destroyed a family business empire. The Murdochs are way dumber than the Packers. Rupert’s dad, the late Sir Keith, would be gasping in disbelief.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 14, 2023 4:10 pm

Women problem? Who recalls the Labor front bench perving at whatsername walking along in front of them? The ones with the women problem are Labor attacking conservative women, and even their own . Kitching!

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 14, 2023 4:12 pm

That’s not to excuse treatment of Deeming or the Northern Beaches lady whose name escapes me right now

Vicki
Vicki
June 14, 2023 4:13 pm

He never mentioned the jab at all, despite knowing I was unjabbed and barely even raised an eyebrow when I turned down a flu-jab.
The whole experience was surreal and kind of disorienting after the treatment received in recent years.
Almost like he’d had a software update and re-boot.

I reckon most of them know the truth. Some of them always did, but could not/would not risk their jobs and careers to say “the emperor has no clothes.” I don’t think that the medical profession has yet lost their kudos …….but give it time.

Crossie
Crossie
June 14, 2023 4:13 pm

Mark from Melbourne says:
June 14, 2023 at 3:20 pm
Mask madness still ongoing.
Local GP’s policy is now “you only have to wear a mask if you’re unwell”.

Masks required at my GP’s and at the local hospital emergency department.

Vicki
Vicki
June 14, 2023 4:14 pm

the Northern Beaches lady whose name escapes me right n

Katherine Deves.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 14, 2023 4:18 pm

Clerks in the House of Reps are wearing masks, even Monique Ryan has given that away.
She doesn’t look real Irish.
I wonder what her name was before it was Ryan?
Any idea, Sancho?

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 4:19 pm

Vicki

My worst experience in the medical system was seeing a nurse practitioner who was the on-duty emergency doc for kids. I didn’t get off to a good start as I commented (mea culpa) that she must have came in from a hen’s night dressed with the fairy outfit. She hated my guts and I couldn’t run away, my ankle was cactus.

“Yeah you don’t need a pain reliever”

At least the cafeteria food was okay and I bumped into an old friend before I called a cab.

It was truly useless, I may as well went home and iced it and went to a physio. TBH I just needed a medical cert for 2 days.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 14, 2023 4:21 pm

Katherine Deves.
Turned a safe Liberal seat into a safe Independent seat.
That took some doing. And she’d only been a Party Member for 3 weeks!
Whose idea was that?

caveman
caveman
June 14, 2023 4:22 pm

Linda Burney and supporters of an Indigenous Voice to Parliament are rejecting calls to reset the Yes campaign or delay the referendum, with the Indigenous Australians Minister declaring Australia has come too far to turn back now. Source: The Australian.

According to my people it will be the best of three, if that results in a tie, then it will be decided by closest to the hole.

Zipster
June 14, 2023 4:24 pm
Zipster
June 14, 2023 4:25 pm

Aboriginal Industry Fraud and Corruption Exposed!
Pauline Hanson’s Please Explain

Johnny Rotten
June 14, 2023 4:27 pm

Anchor Whatsays:
June 14, 2023 at 4:10 pm
Women problem? Who recalls the Labor front bench perving at whatsername walking along in front of them? The ones with the women problem are Labor attacking conservative women, and even their own . Kitching!

That was mainly ‘Short On Brains’ with the Man Boobs doing the perving thingy. Sleaze Bag.

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 4:29 pm

Gez

The boss has a Vinestar.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 14, 2023 4:34 pm

gregiore-g9-330-grape-harvester

Just the thing for nipping down to the shops in.

Ideal first car or weekly runabout.

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 14, 2023 4:35 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 14, 2023 at 3:49 pm
The Liberals must have proof Albanese knew about the Higgins Affair before Feb 15 2021, judging by the questions they’re asking.
The wind is right out of Tanya’s sails.
She looks ghastly.
Not seeing how any of this helps with their Women Problem, though?

Broaden your perspective beyond its narrow leftard limits Grandpa Cletus.

It helps by demonstrating conclusively that the Liars were willing to exploit a young woman for political purposes. Also that the Liars women not only supported that unscrupulous action, but joined it enthusiastically, as also did the leftards of the media, led by Their ABC, Fauxfacts, Channel X, and the Cane Toad and her vacuous husband.

Those that followed the actual case might have noticed that the only women to offer actual support, by encouraging Mizz Knickerless to report the matter to the AFP, were Liberals. However, she was content to allow herself to be exploited for employment advantage. Pity about that being a failure, but she got her big payout.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 14, 2023 4:37 pm
Maman
Maman
June 14, 2023 4:38 pm

Pogria and Dot, it seems bizarre and quite arbitrary.

But, there is good news 🙂 and bad news :(. This Resident was categorised for ‘end of life care’ late last week after a rather catastrophic event. That meant the Resident was entitled to visits from unvaxxed relatives.
Well, this Resident is going out on her own terms and not as decided by medical professionals.
So 6 days later the Resident is actually ‘back on deck’ with a huge amount of support from wonderful carers and family.
We wait to see whether the Resident will still be permitted visits from the unvaxxed or whether they will be returned to persona non grata status.
We must keep the Victorian families of the 800+ Aged Care people who died, in our hearts.

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 4:41 pm

I’ve become less willing to tolerate gratuitous violence in movies or series the older I’ve gotten.

#MeToo.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 14, 2023 4:46 pm

We must keep the Victorian families of the 800+ Aged Care people who died, in our hearts.

Liberty Quote.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 14, 2023 4:47 pm

Ed Casesays:
June 14, 2023 at 12:38 pm
Andrew Bragg is just trying to get the Liberal Party to focus on the real issue.

Why the hell is Dutton trying to nail Katy Gallagher to a tree for her part in supporting Ms Higgins?

It just confirms Higgins assertion that the Liberal Party supported Lehrmann and left her for dead.

Just saw this at BJ’s post.

Could any more proof be needed to show that Mr Job is here to just cause mischief? The circularity of the logic was just a little too obvious.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 4:49 pm

nail Katy Gallagher to a tree

Ah yes.

Our Lady and Saviour, Katy Christ.

Shane the Baptist was just a forerunner to her holiness.

Dot
Dot
June 14, 2023 4:53 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 4:54 pm

Farmer Gezsays:

June 14, 2023 at 4:23 pm

Coming to a road near Sancho.

I’d put the sporty Beemer through the legs of that.
I am pretty sure the local farmers get the word when I am off somewhere in a hurry and co-ordinate the timing of putting their large Jim Deers on the road with the largest scarinator or raker-baler or gregiore-g9-330-grape-harvester or whatever in tow out on the road to piss me off.
Look, they might not be doing it deliberately, but it just seems that way.

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 4:55 pm
Johnny Rotten
June 14, 2023 5:01 pm

Guthosays:
June 14, 2023 at 3:54 pm
There is a Goon Show episode called “SCRADJE” (First broadcast on March 13, 1956). which appears to be a blueprint for the Great Global Warming Hoax

I always remember these –

1. My name is Dr Bannister.
Ahhhhhhh. Didn’t I see you on the stairs?

2. Min, Min, Min. The sun’s hot.
Well, don’t touch it then.

Classic.

cohenite
June 14, 2023 5:02 pm

Further to the BRS bullshit with all the evidence about the alleged 3 murders he committed now being tainted because the evidence was obtained coercively which is called use immunity: the person giving the incriminating evidence is absolved from blame and prosecution for the evidence he gives against the charged person, in this case BRS. Obviously this immunity was given to the SAS witnesses against BRS: they were coerced by the use immunity deal. This would have corrupted any criminal prosecution; but, and this is the kicker, because that evidence was admitted to the defamation hearing, and accepted by the Judge and was fundamental to his finding against BRS, it can now be used in a consequential criminal proceeding.

Isn’t that fu.king neat. 2 things: did the bastards gunning for BRS know this before the defamation hearing but delayed release of it until afterwards so the criminal proceedings could continue with once inadmissible evidence whitewashed by the defamation proceedings? Secondly why didn’t BRS’s counsel advise him of this possibility and raise it during the defamation proceedings.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 14, 2023 5:05 pm

Ed Case increasingly sounds like a Photios bot.

Still waiting on a new OS. He keeps taking the “Out of Service” tape off. What else can you do?

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 5:09 pm

Breaking: Lidia Thorpe has accused Liberal senator David Van of “sexual assault”. It’s more Britnah than Britnah. #PublicityStuntsRUs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 5:11 pm

Ed Case increasingly sounds like a Photios bot.

I think the Grig-software is more like your early Ring doorbell.
Limited functionality, a few stock recorded phrases, limited field of view and poor reliability.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 14, 2023 5:20 pm

more like your early Ring doorbell

dah-dah-dah-DAH-dah
dah-dah-dah-DAH-dah
daaah – dah -dah -dah -dah -dah -daaaah

La Cucaracha Ed. Perfect.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2023 5:23 pm

Indigenous affairs minister Linda Burney compares Aussies voting ‘NO’ in the Voice to Parliament to Trump supporters

This is the Linda Burney who alleges, firstly that she was “Flora and Fauna” until the 1967 referendum, then secondly, she wasn’t counted in the census until the 1967 referendum? Not a great deal of credibility in my book!

cohenite
June 14, 2023 5:23 pm

Since The Goons have come up here is: What Time is it Eccles: a 3 minute masterpiece.

CharlieP
CharlieP
June 14, 2023 5:26 pm

Lizzie, The Way of the Whirlwind was one of my favourite books when I was a child. So much so that when the family copy disintegrated, I bought another on Ebay, shipped from the US of all places. It is sitting on my shelf right now and I intend to read it to my granddaughters when they are old enough to appreciate it. The illustrations are magical.
Have recently listened to Kings in Grass Castles by Mary Durack, Elizabeth’s sister. A tale of dogged determination and endurance and of overcoming adversity by getting back out there and working to achieve results. Pity the school curriculum doesn’t include it. It would be a welcome antidote to the incessant moaning about dispossession and difficulty by certain elements of society today.

P
P
June 14, 2023 5:34 pm

Fixing smiles for nothing brought me closer to God

Dr Robert Aslan, 61, has done more than $250,000 worth of volunteer dental work for some of Sydney’s most disadvantaged people since launching his St Anthony Dental practice on the saint’s feast day in June last year.

“I used to go to Mass occasionally, sometimes confession. I’d be happy to go to Mass every day now because it’s brought me closer to God and my faith has increased a million times since I started doing this.”

Dr Aslan takes referrals from the Australian Dental Health Foundation, the Rebuilding Smiles program for domestic violence survivors, the St Vincent de Paul Foundation and the Australian Dental Association’s Filling the Gap program.

johanna
johanna
June 14, 2023 5:37 pm

Dot says:
June 14, 2023 at 2:03 pm

3 years and 3 months “into” a “pandemic” we have removed virtually all vestiges of that era and public institutions are scrapping COVID etc rules.

I want to see how long the COVID vaccines remain a thing for.

I lost a promotion over this shit. Others lost a lot more.

Went to Canberra Hospital last week for a checkup (happy to report excellent healing) and they have re-introduced compulsory mask wearing in ‘clinical areas’ sometime in the last fortnight. The control freaks are not gone, merely in temporary retreat in some places.

Oh, and there were big posters everywhere inviting people to check ACT Health’s website for information about their wonderful new facility, formerly known as Calvary Hospital. Disgusting triumphalism on display. 🙁

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
June 14, 2023 5:43 pm

Evening in Melbourne CBD IPA event to hear Mundines Voice against the Voice talk. Should be good. Only complaint so far is the plethora of vegan food. Awaits the real food with an ti ci pation.

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 5:44 pm

happy to report excellent healing

Good to know, johanna.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 14, 2023 5:48 pm

Wild moment Lidia Thorpe accuses a Liberal senator of sexually assaulting her

With video

Daily Mail

P
P
June 14, 2023 5:51 pm

Delivering a new northside hospital

01 June 2023

The ACT Government is committed to delivering a new hospital on the northside to meet the growing needs of our community.

With the passing of the Health Infrastructure Enabling Act 2023, public hospitals in the ACT will be managed by Canberra Health Services from 3 July 2023.

Our vision is for a person-centred health system that is accessible, accountable and sustainable. There are many benefits for public hospitals in the ACT to be managed under one operator such as easier transition and management of patients between sites and greater opportunities to strengthen and build our health workforce.

We will now move towards formally transitioning Calvary Public Hospital team members and assets to Canberra Health Services.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 5:53 pm

She needs the limelight. FMD. Hun:

Victorian Senator Lidia Thorpe has accused Liberal Senator David Van of sexually assaulting her during a fiery outburst in the Upper House.

Senator Van, who has rejected the allegations, was making a speech about how the parliament should set the standard of behaviour for the rest of Australia when Senator Thorpe started yelling and interrupting him.

He then asked her to withdraw a comment that was not heard by the deputy president Senator Andrew McLachlan.

But Senator Thorpe said: “I’m feeling really uncomfortable when a perpetrator is speaking about violence”.

Senator McLachlan asked her to withdraw the comments saying they were “inappropriate and reflects poorly on the member”.

But Senator Thorpe refused.

“I can’t because this person harassed me, sexually assaulted me, and the Prime Minister had to remove him from his office, and to have him talking about this today is an absolute disgrace on the whole party,” she said.

Senator Van said: “I utterly reject that statement, that disgusting statement outright”.

“It is just not true.”

The comments were referred to the Senate President.

Eddles has a new topic to madsturbate to.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 5:53 pm

Snap Top Ender

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 14, 2023 5:56 pm

I can’t because this person harassed me, sexually assaulted me, and the Prime Minister had to remove him from his office

Stackhat Ed.

Lidia’s on the phone. She wants you to give her the Parliamentary CCTV footage.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 14, 2023 5:57 pm

And Ed:

Dry-clean Lidia’s dress, won’t you?

There’s a good chap.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 6:00 pm

Dry-clean Lidia’s dress, won’t you?

Chortle

Crossie
Crossie
June 14, 2023 6:02 pm

Lidia Thorpe was experiencing relevance deprivation with all the rape allegations so she had to make her own accusation. The whole parliament is now a joke.

miltonf
miltonf
June 14, 2023 6:03 pm

The whole parliament is now a joke.

yep- a sick joke and a very expensive one

Crossie
Crossie
June 14, 2023 6:04 pm

Ah, Lidia is now shielded by parliamentary privilege. No consequences for lying. How lucky can you get (sarc)?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 6:06 pm

The comments were referred to the Senate President.

They have learned nothing.
This doesn’t belong with Senate Presidents, PH security, party whips or any other of the assorted dickheads in That Place.
If you believe a crime has been committed go to the AFP.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 6:06 pm

Lidia Thorpe is an ugly race baiter and all round piece of human garbage. But the real concern here isn’t that this ugly race baiter and piece of human garbage is in parliament…NO, NO, NO, it’s the fact that some Australians, almost always well heeled Australians, vote for this ugly race baiter and piece of human garbage.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 6:07 pm

Ah, Lidia is now shielded by parliamentary privilege. No consequences for lying. How lucky can you get (sarc)?

Time to fight back using the same weapon.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 6:10 pm

“Time to fight back using the same weapon.”

Correct, I think it’s time a Liberal, National or PHON Senator stood up and called Thorpe a cheap, ugly racist and piece of human garbage…but don’t worry, nobody will.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 6:11 pm

So much for Labor’s demands for more integrity and better standards.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 6:11 pm

Aye Cassie. And this falls squarely on that arsehole Adam Bandt.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 6:13 pm

And just remember, that only a few weeks ago Insiders on their ABC provided a platform for the ugly race baiter and piece of human garbage.

Crossie
Crossie
June 14, 2023 6:15 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 14, 2023 at 6:06 pm
Lidia Thorpe is an ugly race baiter and all round piece of human garbage. But the real concern here isn’t that this ugly race baiter and piece of human garbage is in parliament…NO, NO, NO, it’s the fact that some Australians, almost always well heeled Australians, vote for this ugly race baiter and piece of human garbage.

It’s called living vicariously through others’ bad behaviour.

Crossie
Crossie
June 14, 2023 6:16 pm

Cassie of Sydney says:
June 14, 2023 at 6:10 pm
“Time to fight back using the same weapon.”

Correct, I think it’s time a Liberal, National or PHON Senator stood up and called Thorpe a cheap, ugly racist and piece of human garbage…but don’t worry, nobody will.

Why would Pauline lift a finger for any of them when both sides have abused her on numerous occasions?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 14, 2023 6:19 pm

Swine I work with mentioned the Fish and Chip shop by Balmoral beach.

So I had to Ubereats it.

As Sartre said: Hell is other people.

Tom
Tom
June 14, 2023 6:21 pm

Dry-clean Lidia’s dress, won’t you?

Ewww.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 14, 2023 6:22 pm

Wild moment Lidia Thorpe accuses a Liberal senator of sexually assaulting her

Never mind that, hows his seeing eye dog?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 6:22 pm

Why would Pauline lift a finger for any of them when both sides have abused her on numerous occasions?

1. Because it is the right thing to do.
2. Because she will be next.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 6:27 pm

“1. Because it is the right thing to do.
2. Because she will be next.”

Yep.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Never mind that, hows his seeing eye dog?

Two paper bags…..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 14, 2023 6:29 pm

It begins….
Port Hedland traditional owners accuse council, Water Corp of disturbing heritage site

KAC also raised concerns about excavation works undertaken on the site by the Water Corporation, which was replacing a section of the local water main.

KAC chief executive Nicholas Green said this work, as well as the council’s actions, went ahead without consultation or permission from traditional owners, which is required under Aboriginal heritage laws.

“If you’re going to go inside and do land use, or do any disturbance to the ground, come and have a look, come and talk to us,” he said.

“Our desire is obviously to work with … land users in the town to make sure that they follow a due process to ensure that Aboriginal heritage is acknowledged and protected.”

I had a thought.

With the new WA Abo heritage laws apparently having a cutoff of roughly a 1/4 acre block size, could this be something a “voice” would have the ability to look into and make recommendations to be scrapped?
After all its a fairly arbitrary size they have picked.
It affects Aboriginal rights.
And the west mongstralian government has effectively given a hecklers veto to a specific racial group to use as they wish.

Also another detail I found out today.
The cost of a protection order depends on the turnover of the company making it.
Apparently a BHP application will run into the hundreds of thousands to lodge.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 14, 2023 6:31 pm

More western mongstalian brilliance in action…
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-14/wa-fishing-charter-operators-banned-from-catching-demersal-fish/102469190

A fishing charter operator says it’s “all over” for his business, after learning he and the vast majority of business like his — from Augusta to Kalbarri in Western Australia — have been forbidden from catching demersal species.

Key points:
Large majority of WA fishing charter businesses face threat of collapse after quota changes.
Only 21 operators out of 97 received permission to catch popular demersal species.
State government says cuts are needed as the sector was ‘well above’ its catch limit in previous years.
Under state government changes aimed at protecting the “at risk” species in the West Coast Bioregion, 76 out of 97 charter operators have been told they have been allocated zero “tags” to catch demersal fish, such as dhufish and snapper.

It leaves many operators just weeks to consider the future of their businesses, before the changes come into full effect in July.

The decision does not impact commercial fishing companies, who are have been invited into a voluntary licence buy-back scheme.

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 14, 2023 6:32 pm

Apparently a BHP application will run into the hundreds of thousands to lodge.
Don’t worry, they’ve got the dosh.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 6:32 pm

Here’s my take, Senator Van did NOT sexually assault the race baiter.

cohenite
June 14, 2023 6:34 pm

Former SAS captain and Liberal MP Andrew Hastie has expressed his relief at Ben Roberts-Smith losing his defamation trial, saying the courage of former colleagues in giving evidence against the Victoria Cross winner had “rescued” the elite regiment.

It’s in the turdball times so I won’t link to it but it begs the question: who would you rather have your back: pretty boy hastie or BRS?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
June 14, 2023 6:35 pm

P.S.

I do know that “Hell is other people” has a very different meaning.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 6:35 pm

Don’t worry, they’ve got the dosh.

They’ve also got the ability to set up new mines anywhere on the planet.
Go tan Mummy’s skin, dickhead.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 6:36 pm

Tony Burke, doing the bidding of his union masters, is poised to smother the gig economy with the dead hand of the government’s new “workplace reforms.”

On the upside, it might make more than a few youngsters question the oft heralded (to them) virtues of socialism.

miltonf
miltonf
June 14, 2023 6:38 pm

Former SAS captain and Liberal MP Andrew Hastie has expressed his relief at Ben Roberts-Smith losing his defamation trial, saying the courage of former colleagues in giving evidence against the Victoria Cross winner had “rescued” the elite regiment.
just despicable

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 14, 2023 6:38 pm

We seem to have become ungovernable. Parliament, with a few member as exceptions is a cesspit of self-interest and narcissists. There are a few among them that I would say are actually evil.

Either stupid and evil or cunning and evil. I don’t know a solution to this. The parties are full of sociopaths exemplified in a couple of former PMs from both sides. Independents who aren’t really independents, financed by shadowy figures who do not have the good of the average person or family. The party system vomits up individuals like Gallagher or Bragg, who are the sort of people you would stick 2B pencils in your eyes to avoid. I despair of the legacy my children and potential grandchildren will inherit.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 6:42 pm

P.S.

I do know that “Hell is other people” has a very different meaning.

Hell is full of pervert lefties like Sartre.

If that’s not an encouragement to faith, I don’t know what is.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 6:42 pm

“Real Dealsays:
June 14, 2023 at 6:38 pm”

Very good comment RD.

Frank
Frank
June 14, 2023 6:43 pm

I’ve become less willing to tolerate gratuitous violence in movies or series the older I’ve gotten.

Pretty difficult to find something tolerable regardless of violence levels these days.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 14, 2023 6:43 pm

Thanks, Cassie. The praise of the praiseworthy. ?

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 14, 2023 6:44 pm

That was supposed to be a smiley, not a question mark. I can’t even negotiate emojis!

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 14, 2023 6:50 pm

I’ve become less willing to tolerate gratuitous violence in movies or series the older I’ve gotten.

Same with me. I have an unopened “Hacksaw Ridge” DVD as well as “Downfall” that I just cannot watch due to the visceral scenes. A few years ago I watched Von Ryan’s Express starring Frank Sinatra. Great war movie and even when people were machine-gunned there were no bloody special effects. Ditto with the Great Escape. Perhaps there’s enough real-life violence around without seeing it at the movies.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2023 6:51 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-14/ben-roberts-smith-andrew-hastie-defamation-finding/102478056

Words fail me, they honestly do. A warrior culture in the Special Air Service Regiment? Where the fvcking Hell do you expect to find such a culture?

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 6:53 pm

That was supposed to be a smiley, not a question mark. I can’t even negotiate emojis!

Colon & capital D does it, I think.

😀

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 6:53 pm

Thanks TE.

She’s a very stupid, vicious person. Elevated to a position of power and income unimaginable by ordinary Aussies.

She won’t crash and burn of course. She’s magic.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 6:54 pm

Yes!

Frank
Frank
June 14, 2023 6:54 pm

I do know that “Hell is other people” has a very different meaning.

Trying to excise images of the origin of the uber eats doesn’t sound like much fun either.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 14, 2023 6:56 pm

As an appendix to my previou comment about parliament I am reminded of that great quote by Yeats in The Second Coming

The best lack all conviction, while the worst / Are full of passionate intensity

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 14, 2023 6:57 pm

Colon & capital D does it, I think.

Thanks, Rog

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 14, 2023 6:58 pm

David Van had to ‘apologise unreservedly’ to Jacquie Lambie and he’s also a big supporter of the Ukraine War.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 6:59 pm

I’m not into ultra-violent movies either.

Watching the innards fly when the orcs set on each other in LOTR was enough for me. I can’t watch the first half hour of Saving Private Ryan either. For different reasons.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:00 pm

😀
🙂
🙁
😉

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 7:01 pm

The West is in terminal decline. Daily Telegraph:

One of Sydney’s top hospitals for women is pioneering radical new medical research in transplanting uteruses – and doctors say they are even considering transplanting wombs into biological men.

The Royal Hospital for Women in Randwick achieved Australia’s first uterus transplant in January — and now some gynaecologists from the hospital say they are looking at transplants as an “option” for the transgender population who are “assigned male at birth”.

The nation’s first uterus transplant operation involved a mother donating her uterus to her daughter, who had suffered an emergency hysterectomy after a major haemorrhage during childbirth.

At a charity event hosted by hospital’s fundraising organisation, the Royal Hospital For Women Foundation, one of the hospital’s gynaecologists Professor Jason Abbott said the hospital had received interest in transplantation from women who had suffered medical issues such as cancer as well as “other groups”.

In the video recording of the event, Professor Abbott stated: “We want to consider where we could go with all this. We’ve also got interest from other groups.

Who be those “other groups”?

“We’ve got women ‘assigned male at birth’ as a transgender population — we have an option for these people in the future.”

The hospital is fundraising to continue the medical trial, with the research money paying for the operations, which cost $100,000 each.

Earlier this week on a Reddit social media posting, a blogger said they were from the Australian Professional Association for Trans Health (AusPath) and posted that the Royal Hospital for Women was currently “accepting trans masc uterine donations and within the next one to two years will start facilitating trans femme uterine transplants”.

At an information video session held on May 30, the hospital’s lead research doctor and gynaecologist Dr Rebecca Deans was asked if the hospital planned to transplant a uterus into a transwoman (a biological male).

Thank you for the clarification. And what do young ladies think of this shit?

“We have no plans at this stage but we’re obviously not excluding that as a possibility in the future,” she said.

Gender critical advocates are concerned young women, who are questioning their identity, may feel to pressured to donate their organs.

FMD

“What consideration has been given to gender questioning young females who donate, who are plunged into menopause with the removal of uteruses?” said Sydney lawyer Katherine Deves.

“If consideration is given to a man having a uterus, has any consideration been given to the impact on the foetus?”

University of Notre Dame Professor of Bioethics Margaret Somerville said in any reproductive technology decision making, the child and their rights and their “best interests” must take priority.

She said a distinction must be made in using technology to repair nature when it fails, as in cases of women medically unable to bear children, and doing what is “impossible in Nature — a biological man being pregnant”.

Biology 101 I would have thought.

“The former is much more likely to be ethical than the latter,” she said.

“This allows us to ethically justify helping biological women with a uterine transplant but not biological men.

“There are also many more ethical issues raised if the uterine recipient is a transwoman. Would ‘her’ sperm be used to fertilise a donor ova? If so she would be both the mother and the father of the child.”

A registered nurse who attended the session said she was concerned that gender dysphoric women were being encouraged to donate their uteruses for transwomen to have babies.

“There was one young trans man who attended the panel and spoke. They were very keen to donate to the program because they would be able to have their uterus removed for free due to it coming from research grant money. The mere urgency in their desire to donate should ring alarm bells.”

Australian doctors have now carried out two operations, supervised by Swedish surgeon Mats Brännström who performed the world’s first successful uterus transplantation in 2012.

About 100 womb transplants have been conducted around the world since then — but none yet on biological males.

But Dr Brannstrom told European media outlets earlier this year he thought it would be possible to transplant to males if there’s no risk and “I don’t think there are any ethical boundaries”.

That’s because you have no ethics Dr Mengele.

Royal Hospital for Women and AusPath have been approached for comment.

Just indescribable bullshit.

bespoke
bespoke
June 14, 2023 7:01 pm

Well its only a movie. I find the forning over every military action in Ukraine morbid. Like looky loos at a car accident.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 7:03 pm

David Van had to ‘apologise unreservedly’ to Jacquie Lambie and he’s also a big supporter of the Ukraine War.

Just what are you inferring numbnuts?

Ed Case
Ed Case
June 14, 2023 7:08 pm

Go play on the road, GoofBall.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:09 pm

He apologised for going “woof, woof” when Lambie spoke?

Oh, the horror!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2023 7:10 pm

Key points:

Andrew Hastie says the SAS should not be disbanded in light of the Brereton report
The former SAS captain has defended the need for an ethical ‘warrior culture’ in the regiment
Mr Hastie has suggested a new defence committee be established to allow ADF officials to be questioned

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:12 pm

Royal Hospital Randwick going full Mengele.

Forget all the other female surgeries that need urgent attention.

Let’s give weirdo men a uterus (but obviously no eggs) instead!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 14, 2023 7:12 pm

David Van had to ‘apologise unreservedly’ to Jacquie Lambie

Nope.

and he’s also a big supporter of the Ukraine War.

Supporter of which side? Nobody cares. Distraction- fail.

Nice work, Lidia fanboi.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 7:13 pm

Go play on the road, GoofBall

Go phuck yourself. Just what are you inferring? He must be guilty because of what you pithily remarked earlier? A long history of bullshit has crossed your chapped lips.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 7:18 pm

Rogersays:

June 14, 2023 at 6:36 pm

Tony Burke, doing the bidding of his union masters, is poised to smother the gig economy with the dead hand of the government’s new “workplace reforms.”

On the upside, it might make more than a few youngsters question the oft heralded (to them) virtues of socialism.

Not just gig economy operatives.
The biggest users of these services, particularly food delivery, are the 18-35’s.
Standby for the howls when the Burka surcharge goes on Uber Eats and the Uber ride home goes from $20 to $35.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:18 pm

All the poor women (some of them quite young) who have actually given birth to babies lined up for surgery for horrible prolapses making way for vanity projects for mentally ill men.

You couldn’t make this sh*t up.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 7:20 pm

Teh Patriarchy strikes again calli!
In all seriousness, perhaps the professor quoted toward the end of that piece can volunteer himself.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2023 7:22 pm

I’m reading Robin Neillands’ excellent account of the Battle of Normandy, 1944.

Paris fell, the divisions of Second Army were heading North, through flag bedecked French villages, through cheering crowds…

“The only injury I got in the war ” said Ted Smith of the Guards Armoured Division “was when an apple thrown by a French girl hit me full in the eye, somewhere outside Amiens.” (Page 402.)

I wonder what that did for HIS “warrior culture?”

cohenite
June 14, 2023 7:23 pm

Linda Birney: no vote importing Trump tactics. What a stupid, malignant bitch.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:23 pm

It’s internal cosmetic surgery. There is no clinical reason why a woman’s uterus should be transplanted into a man.

It won’t work. It won’t do its job. It can’t. It’s the equivalent of a little girl’s arm skin being fashioned into a “penis”. It performs no function at all.

Anchor What
Anchor What
June 14, 2023 7:24 pm

Linda Burney: the No campaign against Da Voice is using Trump-style politics of division, and their principal method is disinformation.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 7:28 pm

I reckon when the Voice is defeated, there’ll be violence.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
June 14, 2023 7:29 pm

bespoke says:
June 14, 2023 at 2:30 pm
Mask madness still ongoing

I dropped a rello at North Shore Private yesterday, for day surgery.
I waited in the coffee shop.
Hospital corridors, reception areas, wards, all of the inside of the hospital – masks compulsory.
Coffee shop, INSIDE the hospital – no need for masks.
Madness indeed.

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 7:29 pm

Standby for the howls when the Burka surcharge goes on Uber Eats and the Uber ride home goes from $20 to $35.

We really do have the stupidest government since Whitlam’s here.

If Dutton can’t make hay out of this he’s not worth his salt.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 14, 2023 7:31 pm

Linda Burney: the No campaign against Da Voice is using Trump-style politics of division, and their principal method is disinformation.

Mmmyes so I bring you the incredible racisty of racist men, Warren Mundine:

Last weekend, The Daily Telegraph revealed polling has found that voters are reluctant to ask questions about Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament for fear of being branded racist, saying they are being bullied and shamed into silence.

This did not surprise me.

The poll research was conducted six months ago and I expect if the same research was conducted now, those feelings would only have increased.

In April, I wrote about the escalating public shaming and abuse from leading advocates for the Voice, political leaders and even some in the legal profession directed to anyone who opposes, or has questioned, the Voice.

I said that the message from Voice advocates is clear — any opposition to the Voice, no matter how measured, reasoned or principled, makes you a redneck, racist, bigoted, nasty, eugenicist undertaker and a Judas-level traitor and who will be publicly abused and shamed.

Since then, the abuse and shaming has only continued.

Justice Ian Harrison, of the NSW Supreme Court, writing in his capacity as a judge, sent an extraordinary tirade to Nationals MP Pat Conaghan in response to his, and the National Party’s, opposition to the Voice.

In the email, Justice Harrison accused the Nationals and/or Conaghan of perpetuating institutional abuse of Indigenous Australians, of racism and paternalism and of being “niggardly and cruel and mean-spirited”.

And he said Conaghan should be ashamed of himself.

Last month, Referendum Council member Noel Pearson warned the nation of “a future of endless protest” if the referendum is unsuccessful and continued with his now trademark personal attacks, including against fellow Referendum Council member Mick Gooda and Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price.

And co-author of the Voice Co-Design Report, Marcia Langton, warned of an “intifada” in the western desert due to the conditions of Aboriginal communities and, therefore, urged people to support the Voice because that will supposedly have the capacity to turn it around.

In a major speech a few weeks ago, Albanese described opponents of the Voice as “Chicken Littles” and “doomsayers” and said that the suggestions from opponents of the Voice that it would put race into the constitution are “a great lie”.

It’s little wonder that voters feel too afraid to question it.

Meanwhile, Australia’s Race Discrimination Commissioner Chin Tan warned against creating a racially charged debate over the Voice, reciting Albanese’s mantra that the Voice is not about race.

I feel like I’m living in some parallel universe. There is a great lie being told about the Voice. But it’s not being told by those who say the Voice puts race into the constitution.

Albanese’s own words contradict his claim when he said: “Australians will be asked to recognise Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia, not as a race.”

This is a nonsense statement. “Aboriginal” is a racial description of the first peoples of Australia.

The people who lived on the mainland of this continent before European colonisation didn’t think of themselves as “Aboriginal”. That was how outsiders described them.

They considered themselves to be part of a hundreds of distinct groups, each united by common descent, history, culture, language and living in a particular country with responsibilities to the land and sea of their country that were deeply intertwined with their kinship systems.

These groups are not accurately described as a race, but as separate nations.

I’m Bundjalung from my father’s side and the country of my birth, and Gumbaynggirr and Yuin from my mother’s side.

Bundjalung, Gumbaynggirr and Yuin are nations. Aboriginal is a race. So, what Albanese’s words in fact say is that: Australians will be asked to recognise a race of people as the First Peoples of Australia. This is a point I made in my submission to the Joint Select Committee on the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice Referendum.

The proposed constitutional amendment doesn’t recognise Australia’s First Nations at all. It’s based on a false premise of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as one homogenous group.

It cements the view of Indigenous Australians as one race of people and will enshrine us as such in the Constitution.

If Australia’s Race Discrimination Commissioner Chin Tan has been paying attention he would have noticed that it’s far too late to be warning against a racially charged debate. That is already upon us. I am abused daily with racial slurs and accusations of being a race traitor, on social media and in mainstream media.

I can’t think of another time during my lifetime when the topic of race, and Aboriginal people as a race, has been more front of mind than it is today. I cannot recall a time where racial abuse and hatred have been so openly expressed by members of the general public and people in positions of influence and privilege who should know better.

And I cannot recall a time when Australia has been more divided. Far from being a step towards reconciliation, this referendum is driving the nation apart through threats and fear.

In the last 12 months, we have gone from being one of the world’s most pluralist liberal democracies with a population made up of just about every race, ethnic group, religion and culture all treated equally and living together in harmony. Now we hear that unless we agree to Albanese’s Voice, and enshrining one group of people, as a race of people, in the constitution, we will face a future of endless conflict. And we are already in it anyway.

calli
calli
June 14, 2023 7:32 pm

Yes, Cassie. It’s a given.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2023 7:32 pm

Linda Birney: no vote importing Trump tactics. What a stupid, malignant bitch.

Linda Burney is the product of a dysfunctional family. Her father impregnated her mother, and went his way, rejoicing, unaware of her existence – until she turned up, on his doorstep thirty years later. Her mother took one look at her, when she was born, and handed her over to her great aunt and uncle to be raised. Linda wasn’t aware that she had ten brothers and sisters, until she made contact with her mother, over twenty years later…

Roger
Roger
June 14, 2023 7:35 pm

I reckon when the Voice is defeated, there’ll be violence.

Given that nobody outside certain urban postcodes knows what the Voice is about it’ll have to be organised.

I trust ASIO is alert to the potential threat.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 7:38 pm

“Royal Hospital Randwick going full Mengele.

Forget all the other female surgeries that need urgent attention.

Let’s give weirdo men a uterus (but obviously no eggs) instead!”

It is full Mengele, there’s no difference. When will this shit stop?

mem
mem
June 14, 2023 7:41 pm

Fair Shakesays:
June 14, 2023 at 5:43 pm
Evening in Melbourne CBD IPA event to hear Mundines Voice against the Voice talk. Should be good. Only complaint so far is the plethora of vegan food. Awaits the real food with an ti ci pation.
Good luck with the “ti ci pation”. ( anticipation, antipasto ?). Would have been there but Dan’s obliteration of my local level crossing and extras (all un needed) means have to walk long way in dark. Look forward to your report back?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 14, 2023 7:42 pm

SFLs trying to get the band back together?

Where does the Liberal Party fit post the 2022 federal election?

Dignity and Prosperity: The Future of Liberal Australia is edited by David Stevens with contributions from John Howard, Tony Abbott, David and Rod Kemp, Georgina and Alexander Downer, John Roskam and others. It will be officially launched in Queensland by one of the other contributors, former Senator Nick Minchin.

With the Liberal Party out of office in every state in mainland Australia, as well as the Commonwealth, people are asking once more where it is headed, if it is headed anywhere. This is an opportunity to discuss where the party is going and what it should stand for amongst a group of what might be called “critical friends”, to borrow a phrase from Tony Abbott.

Date is 23 June 2023 at 12:00 for 12:30 pm.
Register soon because space is limited.

If they only wanted a space big enough for their supporters they could have rented a smaller room.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 7:43 pm

Real Dealsays:

June 14, 2023 at 6:56 pm

As an appendix to my previou comment about parliament I am reminded of that great quote by Yeats in The Second Coming

The best lack all conviction, while the worst / Are full of passionate intensity

Very apt.
I think a lot of Liberals are “career politicians”. That is, they are time servers looking at their pension and don’t care much whether they are in Government or opposition. In fact, apart from the better perks of the Treasury benches, they almost prefer opposition because it is an easier ride. They would rather preserve the bonhomie and good humour of the Parliamentary dining room than serve their constituents.
See, Joyce, B; Pyne, C; Guy, M; Pessutto, J.
The latter “passionate intensity” types are more likely to be found on the Liars/Greens side. Trouble is, the passion is often just directed at personal attacks (Hi, Lydia!) and, if it is related to a policy issue, they usually can’t support their passionate rhetoric with logic or reason (eg Adam Bandit).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 7:50 pm

Anchor Whatsays:

June 14, 2023 at 7:24 pm

Linda Burney: the No campaign against Da Voice is using Trump-style politics of division, and their principal method is disinformation.

By definition, the Yes side cannot scream “disinformation” from the No side, when the Yes side has released no “information”.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 14, 2023 7:55 pm

Have a squiz. It’ll gobble up 15 minutes.

—–

Omeleto:

Four soldiers from Australia are holed up in a room in Afghanistan, doing reconnaissance in a village. They are very different personalities with different worldviews, but they have to work together as soldiers, though the close quarters of their position make it harder to get along.

But their relative harmony is disrupted when a young Afghan boy enters the room. Startled and suspicious, the soldiers take the boy prisoner. He speaks no English, and the soldiers debate whether or not he’s a spy scouting out the position of the soldiers for the Taliban. But in the unpredictability of war, the debate takes on heightened stakes as the world falls apart around them.

4 soldiers capture a young Afghan boy. But their position is compromised… | Entrenched

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 14, 2023 7:56 pm

Steve tricklersays:

June 14, 2023 at 7:55 pm

Have a squiz. It’ll gobble up 15 minutes.

No thanks.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
June 14, 2023 8:02 pm

Lidia, the human encyclopedia, has “withdrawn” her words, but only to comply with Standing Orders.

Cassie of Sydney
June 14, 2023 8:07 pm

“Lidia, the human encyclopedia, has “withdrawn” her words, but only to comply with Standing Orders.”

Of course she has, she really is a piece of garbage.

Real Deal
Real Deal
June 14, 2023 8:08 pm

At this stage does the referendum have to go ahead? Or can it be cancelled or postponed? I can’t see it succeeding, and if it gets knocked back, Albo is finished. I wonder whether he can blame the opposition for all the division and say they aren’t going ahead. Just wondering, someone can set me right.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 14, 2023 8:09 pm

Lidia, the human encyclopedia, has “withdrawn” her words, but only to comply with Standing Orders.

Barnaby Joyce, urging her to go to the police, may have had something to do with the matter.

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