Open Thread – Weekend 8 July 2023


The Peasant Dance, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1568

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JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:00 pm

MatrixTransform
Jul 8, 2023 8:57 PM

listen to you clowns … building experts one and all

Sancho and JC’s soggy biscuit routine now has an explanation.

Okay trans, but what eggsactly do you disagree with. Spit it out.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:02 pm

JC … what’s in it for the fag-hag?

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:03 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:06 pm

Stay out of it Thor the God of Soldering.

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:07 pm

Oh I don’t know, Trans. How the personal satisfaction about explaining to us mortals what we said is incorrect. We know you can do it.

rosie
rosie
July 8, 2023 9:07 pm

No-one’s claiming to be a building expert but referring to personal experience and pointing put that there is no licensing or certification of waterproofing in Victoria; which is why there are so many problems.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:08 pm

The Velvets

Yeah, because brunette goils were not designed to be lusted after, I tells ya … 😕

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:08 pm

sancho, I’m interested in the protocol that youse have … like who gets to wank first?

or do youse do it like simultaneously and help each other out?

who buys the biscuits?

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:11 pm

Trans, okay just assume we’re all wanking wankers wanking all the time. Now explain why the comments about waterproofing are incorrect.
Can you?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:11 pm

Latest reports on Stockton Rush and his Titan Imploder 2.0 submersible.
Apparently he was God-like and people used to shit themselves when he walked into a room.
Which could be awkward in a small submersible.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 8, 2023 9:13 pm

Who be that angel Rabz?

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:13 pm

Did you strike a deal with Arnott’s of something?

who the actual, has enough biscuits to keep you two tossing like that?

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:15 pm

he was god-like and people used to void their bowels when he walked into a room

Not any more. 🙂

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:17 pm

Trans

No kidding, everyone here shits themselves when you “walk” into the blog. It’s scary, but don’t keep us in suspense. Explain why you think the waterproofing comments are wanking wankerish.
We’re still waiting.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:18 pm

Miss Maggie Dodgers

Outswifting the swift by multiples of just about anything.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:20 pm

the funniest thing is that the clown-duo wouldn’t last 5 minutes on a building site

so childishly thin-skinned

the pathetic nibbles every time they’re prodded are almost shameful.

and the repetition of what they reckon are gotcha’s

sad … ffs!

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 8, 2023 9:21 pm

Peta Credlin:

NAIDOC Week is probably a good time to review where the Voice campaign is going, especially after the National Press Club speech during the week by Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Burney.

The standing ovation she received was much more an indication of the media’s virtue-signalling on this issue than of the quality of what she said.

For something that was supposed to reset the debate and clear up confusion, it ended up raising as many questions as it answered.

Such as, how could the Voice, unlike the parliament, somehow take the long view of Indigenous issues, given that we still don’t know how it will be elected or selected and for what length of term?

And how could the Voice campaign be about uniting the country when Burney then proceeded to call Opposition Leader Peter Dutton a “bully-boy” and to accuse No campaigners of using “Trump-style” tactics?

Yes campaigners worked themselves into a frenzy of moral indignation this week over an Advance Australia ad depicting Wesfarmers boss Michael Chaney handing over a wad of money to Yes activist and communist sympathiser Thomas Mayo, while dandling on his knee his teal MP daughter, Kate.

This, even though Wesfarmers has indeed given $2m in shareholders’ money to one side of a highly contentious political contest.

Perhaps the ad was insensitive, but the Yes campaign can hardly get thin-skinned about the scorn that occasionally comes its way, given the vitriol routinely directed at No campaigners such as Senator Jacinta Price and Warren Mundine.

Who could forget Noel Pearson’s gaslighting of Price as somehow “punching down on blackfellas” when an Indigenous woman had the temerity not to follow the men folk?

With the news that BHP and Rio Tinto had joined Wesfarmers in making $2m donations to the Yes23 campaign – adding to multimillion-dollar donations from philanthropic foundations – what’s not now in any doubt is that the moneyed establishment is supporting the Voice.

Not because Big Business, Big Sport and Big Charity want to argue the case but because they’re keen to demonstrate moral superiority and curry favour with the government by backing the vibe that it’s disrespectful – verging on racist to refuse to give the Aboriginal activist class whatever it wants.

In her speech, Burney maintained that the coming referendum was about recognition – but that’s just designed to trick voters.

The referendum is all about the Voice, a body that will give under 4 per cent of people a special say over what happens for everyone.

She claimed, first, that the Voice would be entirely independent of government, but then maintained that it would deal with health, education, jobs and housing – because that’s what she would ask it to do.

Nowhere did she tell her audience, though, that while she can ask the Voice to do anything, that doesn’t mean they have to listen, because the Voice can readily ignore government and do whatever it likes if it’s enshrined in the Constitution.

Burney said that the Voice would be “chosen by local communities, for local communities” but also insisted that it would be “gender-balanced” and “include the views of young people”.

So, what is it? Elected, as the Prime Minister has said, or selected, as the government’s own Voice website says? See the confusion when, even now, we don’t know these basics?

What we do know is that it’s always been the plan to use the “soft sell” of the Voice to lock Indigenous co-governance into the Constitution and then unleash the real agenda of the Uluru Statement, a “treaty” (which means reparations, or taxpayer- funded compensation) and “truth” (which means rewriting Australia’s history as a story of shame).

However, the government hopes you don’t really understand any of this until the Voice referendum is safely out of the way.

It’s now claimed by Voice supporters that it’s what 80 per cent of Indigenous people want. Yet last month, the pro-Voice entity Passing the Message Stick cited “research” that “25 per cent (of Indigenous people) have said they’re a No in terms of where they are sitting in the campaign” and “over 45 per cent are saying they have heard very little or know nothing about the referendum”. In other words, 70 per cent of Indigenous people are No or they “don’t know”.

Make no mistake, the Yes campaign is in deep trouble. But if the weight of advertising can buy votes, it might still prevail.

That’s why every Australian who believes that the content of our character is what matters, and not the colour of our skin, needs to understand what’s really at stake here, and speak up to ensure Labor’s Voice is defeated.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:23 pm

Vladimir Titsoff pulling the usual tradie stunt when confronted with complaints about shoddy workmanship and cluelessness about modern materials:-
“Youse wooden no nafink!”

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:24 pm

Trans,

MatrixTransform
Jul 8, 2023 9:20 PM

the funniest thing is that the clown-duo wouldn’t last 5 minutes on a building site

so childishly thin-skinned

the pathetic nibbles every time they’re prodded are almost shameful.

and the repetition of what they reckon are gotcha’s

sad … ffs!

Okay, but explain what was said that caused you to post that abuse laden assertion. That’s all we’ve asked and waiting for.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:26 pm

My recurring nightmare is to be forced to walk onto a building site wearing an aircon company logo.
The shame!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 8, 2023 9:26 pm

Wally Dalí
Jul 8, 2023 8:41 PM
City Journal looks like a great read.

It is a very good read. Lot of very “local” based politics but about 50% is more general articles.
Anything by Heather McDonald* on crime is worth a read.

*Not to be mistaken for uncle Dolan. (or Ed_mong as hes known here)

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:26 pm

and did I mention the repetition?

JC, yr like an apprentice with a nail-gun

… more won’t necessarily make it stronger

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:27 pm
Zatara
Zatara
July 8, 2023 9:27 pm

Biden Administration Is ‘Irreparably Harmed’ by Free Speech Injunction

Good. But absurd. The injunction prevents the Biden administration from censoring free speech on social media. Nothing more.

If that irreparably harms it, then it damned well needed to be irreparably harmed.

Preliminary Injunction in Missouri v. Biden

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 8, 2023 9:28 pm

NAIDOC Week is probably a good time to review where the Voice campaign is going, especially after the National Press Club speech during the week by Indigenous Affairs Minister Linda Burney.

I may have posted this before – apologies if I have – but we are all expected to wallow in NAIDOC week, yet we are begrudged ONE DAY to commemorate Australia Day?

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 8, 2023 9:28 pm

No-one’s claiming to be a building expert

Uh huh …
but referring to personal experience and pointing put that there is no licensing or certification of waterproofing in Victoria; which is why there are so many problems.
There’s only 1 reason:
The CFMEU controls Unit Construction in Victoria.
Footings not waterproofed because it had been raining and the job was behind Program?
No worries.
The waterproofer will still sign off on it if he ever wants to work in the industry again.
It’s the same with all the Trades.
Bottom line:
Import wogs, import corruption.
It’s all they know.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:28 pm

Some Pure Pop … 🙂

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:31 pm

Trans

Sure, it’s repetitious but that’s because it’s to show just what a moronic blowhard you are. You could of course reduce he repetition by defending your assertion, but you can’t because you’re a drunk waste of space.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:33 pm

Who be that angel

BB – just a goil on the internet. A heartbreaker.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:34 pm

Miss Ellie, attempting to assuage a shattered heart … 🙁

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 9:37 pm

Latest reports on Stockton Rush and his Titan Imploder 2.0 submersible.
Apparently he was God-like and people used to shit themselves when he walked into a room.

How dare you!

These people have Teh Knowledge!

Don’t ask them to explain it, for Christ’s sake. Oracles don’t stoop to that level.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 9:39 pm

It’s like a hipster, with a $120 op shop shirt, a bushranger beard and a top knot.

‘Oh, you wouldn’t understand.’

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:41 pm

Okay trans, but what eggsactly do you disagree with. Spit it out.

dearest JC, your soggy biscuit routine implies some sort of buy-in and at no point did I enter into a contract.

when it comes down to ‘swallowing it’, your gonna have to negotiate with sancho.

sorry mate, it’s either you or him

we know though, that secretly youse both love it

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:43 pm

Don’t ask them to explain it, for Christ’s sake. Oracles don’t stoop to that level.

Youse wooden no nafink.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 9:43 pm

Apparently the Attwood ‘facility’ has started cattle-carring in teh peOple for extermination (probably).

That was the advice. I clearly remember it. Inside knowledge and all that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:46 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Jul 8, 2023 9:39 PM

It’s like a hipster, with a $120 op shop shirt, a bushranger beard and a top knot.

‘Oh, you wouldn’t understand.’

yeah.

apparently people only think they can see water running down the walls.

they dont no nafink

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:47 pm

yeah.

apparently people only think they can see water running down the walls.

they dont no nafink

Dat’s just normal.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:49 pm

I wonder how many waterproofing breaches are caused by faux-trades (like air-con Oracles) punching random holes where they shouldn’t.
Prolly lots.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 8, 2023 9:51 pm

James Campbell fellating Shorten:

Public life in Australia being the po-faced business it is, we should celebrate and cherish those rare occasions that bring a smile to our faces or, as was the case with Peter Dutton’s remarks this weekend, actually cause us to laugh out loud.

Until this weekend I had not considered that the Leader of Opposition might have a career in comedy if he ever gets sick of this politics thing.

But, on Saturday, he delivered lines which suggest he might be one of the great deadpan ironists of our age.

Speaking of the Robodebt royal commission report handed down on Friday, Dutton, with a straight face, actually tried to chide Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese for seeking to make political gain from the scandal.

The reason this cracked me up is because it is exactly eight years’ ago today that Shorten found himself in the hot seat at the Trade Union Royal Commission to answer for his time as an official of the Australian Workers Union. Afterwards, he joked to reporters that appearing before one of Tony Abbott’s royal commissions had become something of a “rite of passage” for Labor leaders.

The TURC devoted an extraordinary amount of time and money to investigating the conveyancing on Julia Gillard’s house back in the 1990s. And, earlier in Tony-time, Kevin Rudd had been hauled before a star chamber in Queensland to answer questions over the four deaths associated with the failed pink batts scheme.

As for the TURC, it was an out-and-out hit job on the then leader of the opposition. That became obvious the moment it was clear that, while the commission could find time to go into the minutiae of whether workers were better or worse off under AWU enterprise agreements negotiated by Shorten, there was apparently no time to look into allegations of bikie-related criminality across the construction division of the CFMEU.

The irony will not have been lost on Shorten on Friday as he stood before the media talking about the Robodebt report, which had just recommended a number of officials – and possibly ministers – be referred to the National Anti-Corruption Commission and the Australian Federal Police.

Receiving the pink batt report back in September 2014, Abbott said it showed a grave and detailed “ litany of failings arising from a dysfunctional culture” and vowed to “focus on ensuring that such a catastrophic policy failure never happens again”.

Whether you think this response was a Duttonian example of “glee” is a matter of judgment.

What is undoubtedly true is that even as Abbott was making this promise, bureaucrats in the Department of Human Services were three months into cooking up the disaster that would become Robodebt.

Catherine Holmes’ report is an absolute shocker. I’m sure someone will write in to correct me, but if there’s been a worse public policy failure federally I’d love to hear of it.

It’s hard to single out which revelation in Holmes’ report is the most shocking – and I use that word deliberately. My candidates include the finding that in 2014, months before the scheme began, officials already knew that 95 per cent of the debts calculated using Robodebt were likely to be wrong.

Then there’s the fact they pressed on with the scheme even though there was clear legal advice that without a legislative change it would be unlawful.

Or that by early 2017 – by which point its “unfairness, probable illegality and cruelty” had become apparent – instead of abandoning it “the path taken was to double down, to go on the attack in the media against those who complained and to maintain the falsehood” that no changes had been made to it because of its shortcomings.

If that wasn’t bad enough, in 2018, when officials finally got around to acting on the fact they kept losing Robodebt cases in the Administrative Appeals Tribunal, they sought an outside opinion on its lawfulness from Clayton Utz. When the draft advice came back that no, it probably wasn’t legal, it was “never put into a final form or acted on”.

Bill Shorten might well be loving himself sick at the way this has turned out for his opponents. And given he was the man who drove the case against Robodebt, why shouldn’t he?

Especially as those opponents ran a bullshit royal commission designed to destroy him.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:53 pm

I love the way that the smartest people in the room are reduced to kindergarten level insults

the intellect
the wit
the creativity

… the repetition

Rabz
July 8, 2023 9:53 pm

It’s like a hipster, man, with an op shop white Levi’s jacket of indefinable value, a bushranger beard and clad in mouldy purple corduroy flares …

While listening to this pure slab of pop … 🙂

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 9:55 pm

like air-con Oracles

LOL

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 9:55 pm

… the repetition

Quite so.
A search for “wank” and “wanker” on the page turns up some interesting results.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:57 pm

sancho … you can’t win

I’m better at it

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 9:59 pm

it’s like Othello … or 500 … or soldering

I’m better at that too

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:00 pm

except wanking

… you’re deffo better at that

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 10:00 pm

Sancho Panzer

Jul 8, 2023 9:55 PM

… the repetition

Quite so.
A search for “wank” and “wanker” on the page turns up some interesting results.

MatrixTransform

Jul 8, 2023 9:57 PM

sancho … you can’t win

I’m better at it

Wanking?
I don’t doubt it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 8, 2023 10:04 pm

Discussion upthread about Hugh Poates book “Failure of Command.”

ANZAC Day, 2013, Hugh Poate and his family were invited to march through Brisbane with the 6RAR Association. Thousands of soldiers marching could not wear their service medals for this event. Medals can only be worn on polyester uniform, accompanied by black patent leather shoes. Some fool had awarded the contract for shoes for the Army to be made in China, where the soles fell to pieces in short order. Soldiers had to wear cam uniforms, with “desert boots” and you can’t wear medals with cams…A request to Canberra, for a special dispensation was denied. (Page 101.)

Oh, by the way, R.M. Williams now supply black shoes for the Army.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:05 pm

the intellect
the wit
the creativity

Still waiting for ‘the explanations’….

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:05 pm

lol … take yr time sancho

… it’s the rhythm

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:16 pm

Still waiting for ‘the explanations’….

I understand yr concern
it does get get pretty rainy in the NT

what do they do for waterproofing there, mate?

is it regulated?

is it a tube of silicone and some grout?

fill us in

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 10:17 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Jul 8, 2023 10:05 PM

the intellect
the wit
the creativity

Still waiting for ‘the explanations’….

youse wooden fkn no

betcha never been on a building site

theres banter

and people randomly shitting their dacks

its tops

for god-oracles that is

not for nuffies who imagine water dripping down their walls

Rabz
July 8, 2023 10:17 pm

Miss Planet* – on and on and on

*Most beautiful 2023, with daylight second. 🙂

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:18 pm

join the dots

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:18 pm

fill the gaps

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:19 pm

plug the holes

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 8, 2023 10:20 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uCDw30wCe0

“Wild Mountain Thyme- Will ye go, Lassie, Go?”

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:22 pm

and ask yrself, does it hold water?

Rabz
July 8, 2023 10:22 pm
Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
July 8, 2023 10:23 pm

Ed Case
Jul 8, 2023 8:26 PM

Hurts you it does the anal – Yoda

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:29 pm

I understand yr concern

Oh thank God.

it does get get pretty rainy in the NT

My wordy lordy i does. Not at the moment, but still.

what do they do for waterproofing there, mate?

I’m not sure. I’m not a building site oracle. You apparently are though, so you say, and you won’t provide any explanation as to how that works despite you professing to be – well – an oracle.

Unless, of course, you don’t know.

I’m starting to see a correlation between ‘shit your pants when I walk into the room’ and ‘my pants had shit on them so I threw them out the window of my truck’.

St. Matrix.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 10:29 pm
MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:30 pm

full of sh!t

this forum holds more sh!t that ever

due to best-practice water-proofing

no doubt

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:32 pm

excellent use of bolding KD

… adds much depth to the bullshit

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 10:33 pm

I’m starting to see a correlation between ‘shit your pants when I walk into the room’ and ‘my pants had shit on them so I threw them out the window of my truck’.

harsh

but fair

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:34 pm

adds much depth to the bullshit

Speaking of bullshit – nice deflection, but that fact is you don’t know.

Do you? God Oracle?

No. Thought not.

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 10:35 pm

Too fair.

The building site oracle .. the fastest lip on a building site.. and it shows.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:36 pm

fact is you don’t know

if you say so, inspector

wanker

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:37 pm

this forum holds more sh!t that ever

Because you’re asked genuine questions on subjects you profess to know about, but can’t answer.

Because you don’t know.

Buit it’s ‘this forum’ ‘s fault. Unlike your God Oracle ones.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 8, 2023 10:38 pm

Oh, by the way, R.M. Williams now supply black shoes for the Army.

Oh, and to the arzeholes, who supplied “Boots G.P.” to the A.D.F. in the 1970’s – the best boots $15 could buy, I won’t name you bastards, but I hope you fry in HELL.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
July 8, 2023 10:38 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:38 pm

*But*

stupid vowels

if only they could be waterproofed

i know all about it

but i can’t tell youse

St. Matrix, signing off

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 8, 2023 10:39 pm

Starmer must surmount the obstacle of a whole dictionary of vocabulary that betrays class affiliations. Here is a selection.

These were drilled into me by my headmistress in Britain when I was eleven, who wanted me to do well in life. I believe they are from Nancy Mitfords book “U and Not U”. I never forgot them though I didn’t always use them. This knowledge helped when Hairy took me back to Britain with our first child circa forty years ago as the Australian girl he’d married and who turned out to be able to speak and dress in a civilised manner. His first wife was also Australian but from an acceptably naval family; I was an unknown and thus a wild card.

Lavatory sounds ridiculous in Australia now though, and supper is never used, although Hairy’s sister-in-law still uses both in the UK. In Australia, in some of polite society, I find that saying someone has ‘passed away’ is regarded as the appropriate way to say they’ve died. Using ‘died’, if it was recent, is seen as a little gauche. You can however speak of their ‘death’.

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 10:39 pm

I think it’s time for another woe-is-me cameo.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:41 pm

Because you don’t know.

if you say so

what if I do and you and the soggy-biscuit-crew keep wanking ?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:42 pm

if you say so

Yes. I do say so.

Because if you did know, and you are in fact a God Oracle pants-shitter-maker, you may have actually offered something.

Lightweight.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:42 pm

have you done all your google searches for the truth?

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:44 pm

well … have you punk?

Rabz
July 8, 2023 10:48 pm
MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 10:50 pm

what a bunch of wankers

this joint is rooted

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:54 pm

what a bunch of wankers
this joint is rooted

going back to my god oracle sites

where everything i say is accepted

unconditionally

by the apprentices

and i don’t have to qualify any of my god statements

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 10:55 pm

LOL.

“this joint is rooted”

If only folks shat themselves when the Oracle speaks and offer him the respect he sorely deserves.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 10:55 pm

*god oracle site*

gee St. Matrix

tell us a story

yr just like martin armstrong

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 8, 2023 10:58 pm

Heading for bed. I was up early and was then asked this morning to look after our little grandson, aged four, who has fairly severe autism and ADHD. He runs everywhere and, as I run after him at pace, I am done in tonight. Poor Attapuss is a nervous wreck. He hid in our bedroom curtains for the duration. Luckily the little fellow didn’t use them for his latest trick, which is to stand behind the white filmy curtains in the other rooms and grabbing a bit of them, slowly twist himself round and round in them till he’s wrapped into a cocoon from which he has to extracted before the curtains are ripped from their hooks. That’s after he’s had another go of throwing my shell collection piece by piece over the balcony laughing delightedly as he does so and practicing one of his few words, shell, he enjoys a meal of left-over sausage and ice cream, together not sequentially, which he gets out of the fridge for himself. He’s told NO, of course, but with these kids it takes a while and many goes to sink in and tantrums come easily if their perceived ordering of things is thwarted.
Still changing nappies on him. Oh dear. No question he’s on the NDIS. Obviously something very wrong and some physical deficits too.
The parents, one our son, are very good with him, but they do need a break.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 8, 2023 10:59 pm

What we do know is that it’s always been the plan to use the “soft sell” of the Voice to lock Indigenous co-governance into the Constitution and then unleash the real agenda of the Uluru Statement, a “treaty” (which means reparations, or taxpayer- funded compensation) and “truth” (which means rewriting Australia’s history as a story of shame).

And self-determination.

And we know Uncle Luigi’s position on that particular agenda:

On behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit to the Uluru Statement from the Heart in full.

And, given the composition of the Parliament, that’s exactly what we will get if it looks like the little shit has enough of the voteherd behind him.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 11:01 pm

you aren’t making sense right now KD

you know, it would be nice if a bloke of intellect and reason offered something substantive

give it a go sometime

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 8, 2023 11:07 pm

You have to run after this child because he’s into everything and could cause damage or injure himself. I expect soon he might get some ADHD medication which would make things a lot easier. They went to Fiji recently for an outer-island resort holiday with him, and that was a great respite period for them. He could attend the kids club activities, which he enjoyed being part of, as long as they hired an individual minder for him. Six dollars a day was all she cost, they say to me in wonder. A good tip for anyone else who has a child who is similar and who need a family break. And they of course gave the minder a good tip too. The little fellow loved it all, which was the real bonus.

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 11:08 pm

Oh God.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 11:08 pm

it would be nice if a bloke of intellect and reason offered something substantive
give it a go sometime

okay

this joint is rooted

Or – or, and hear me out:

What, exactly, are the requirements for waterproofing buildings – and their foundations – in Victoria?

Is that enough substance for you?

Rabz
July 8, 2023 11:09 pm
MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 11:11 pm

and their foundations

by gawd yr fckn stupid

Rabz
July 8, 2023 11:12 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 8, 2023 11:14 pm

I have always disliked the term ‘passed away’. I prefer to be honest and say ‘died’, but I’ve swung into ‘passed away’ when I’ve been with people who use it and who would be offended if I didn’t. On such matters one doesn’t want to give offense.

Leave that for commenting on The Australian. lol.

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 11:15 pm

have all you brainacs done a web search and satisfied yourselves that waterproofing is unregulated and staffed by incompetents?

seriously yr all retarded

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 11:17 pm

Trans thinks he can put one over people here by making abuse laden assertions without a shred of evidence to back up anything he says. It doesn’t work champ, which is why you think the “site is rooted”. Piss off, you drunken idiot. You waste of space.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 8, 2023 11:17 pm

by gawd yr fckn stupid

The god oracle speaks.

You do know they waterproof foundations in the NT, don’t you?

Don’t you?

Oh. You don’t know. I’ll just throw that on the pile of things you say you know about but don’t.

It’s farter time. You may throw a few ‘wank biscuit’ posts in at your leisure, St. Matrix.

As mentioned earlier – lightweight.

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 11:20 pm

have all you brainacs done a web search and satisfied yourselves that waterproofing is unregulated and staffed by incompetents?

seriously yr all retarded

Rosie put up a link to an article suggesting that Vic is going through a waterproofing crisis in new construction. If this is untrue then you can explain exactly why, otherwise STFU and piss off.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 8, 2023 11:21 pm

Attapuss has already turned in for the nite. He’s in his little beddies in our room. It’s one of those round fluffy types made in China for cats who are pampered not eaten. It’s very warm and he looks so cute all cuddled up in it, one paw over his eye to block the light, dreaming of how behind the curtain he watched that little kid frighten the birdies away from their food placed on the verandah ledge. He’s allowed to do it, but I’m not, you could see him thinking. It’s not preferential treatment, I tell him now in his dreams, it’s just that I can pick you up by the scruff of your neck and stop you; can’t with the kid.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 11:22 pm

Hey, Miss Personage,

The Bitterest Pill,

Is mine to take,

If I took it for a hundred years

I could’nee feel any more hate … 😕

MatrixTransform
July 8, 2023 11:25 pm

abuse laden assertions

omg no, did MT shame JC?

Piss off, you drunken idiot. You waste of space.

hi JC, you wank, wank, wank , wank, wanker

JC
JC
July 8, 2023 11:27 pm

Oh, but the repetition.

Indolent
Indolent
July 8, 2023 11:32 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 11:32 pm

JC

Jul 8, 2023 10:39 PM

I think it’s time for another woe-is-me cameo.

Oh, yeah.
My daughter/son has gone down the trans path.
Whose fault can that be?
Let me see.
The ex?
The ex’s friends?
The son/daughter’s teachers?
His/her/xe’s uni friends?
The postie?
Should we ask what role Tony Abbott had to play in all this?
Heaven forbid we should ever consider that having a God-Oracle, incontinence-inducing, champion worksite banterer parent could be a contributing factor.

Indolent
Indolent
July 8, 2023 11:34 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 8, 2023 11:36 pm

have all you brainacs done a web search and satisfied yourselves that waterproofing is unregulated and staffed by incompetents?

The amount of water leaking into apartments would suggest that, yes, a lot of it is performed by air-con level yokels.

P
P
July 8, 2023 11:37 pm

Lizzie,

My first child was worse than your grandson from your description. He was though a great sleeper, would not wake till about 8 to 8:30 each morning, go flat out until midday then collapse on the floor boards sound asleep, and wouldn’t wake till about 3:30pm when it would all start again. At 6:30pm he was exhausted and would go to sleep until 8 or so in the morning. His antics whilst awake were horrific. I was exhausted at the end of each day.

He now holds two Masters from UTS and has done well in business.

Rabz
July 8, 2023 11:39 pm

I saw you today
Hard to say
People change so much
Compelled to look
I hid my face
Slender bride
A light in your life
That always burns for you
As time passes so quickly … 😕

Indolent
Indolent
July 8, 2023 11:39 pm

This is from the Atlantic. I think they forget the satire label.

Step Aside, Joe Biden

I am deeply grateful to Joe Biden. By defeating Donald Trump in 2020, he rescued this country from the continuing misrule of a dangerous grifter and serial liar, a man gripped by vindictiveness, lawlessness, and egomania. By contrast, Biden presented himself, correctly, as a decent, experienced, and entirely normal politician. He may even have saved his country. Americans owe him a profound debt of respect and appreciation.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 8, 2023 11:51 pm

US closes dark chapter as last chemical weapons are destroyed

Opens even darker chapter of bioweapons?

Chris
Chris
July 9, 2023 12:04 am
Chris
Chris
July 9, 2023 12:06 am
Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
July 9, 2023 12:16 am

That was quick.
Mark Cavendish had a prang in the Tour just minutes ago. I watched the immediate replays of the crash and his withdrawal from the race then looked up his career record on Wikipedia.
Already updated.

bons
bons
July 9, 2023 1:55 am

A mate’s grandson, age 14, declines to attend school.
I would not be able to cope with that.
The desperate dad has failed to find any meaningful support or advice other than brush off comments such as “its not uncommon” , “give it time etc”.
Some shrinks have claimed that it is associated the explosion in chronic fatigue syndrome – a shrink creation.
Speaking to his Dad a couple of days ago, the desperate Father asked whether it ever happened when he was a kid and how he would have reacted.
“What do you think”?

calli
calli
July 9, 2023 2:32 am

Greetings from somewhere in the Icelandic Sea. On the Beloved’s device, at usurious innernet rates. We are experiencing a fairly decent swell (thank you stabilisers) and a magnificent fog – the warm Gulf Stream hits cold Arctic air and the inevitable happens.

Dock in Iceland tomorrow and going ashore – they tell me I’m viewing “Leisurely Akureyri and Godafoss”. Presume that I’ll be leisurely, not the destinations.

The site appears to be loading well way out here. Which is reassuring, considering the ship is completely fogbound and dependent on GPS and radar. The horn is sounded at regular intervals…I expect less to do with actual collision avoidance and more to do with rules and tradition.

No icebergs yet.

calli
calli
July 9, 2023 2:44 am

Well, that was an unrewarding scroll back.

See you all tomorrow afternoon…maybe.

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 9, 2023 3:41 am

Hey Calli, I’m somewhere to the south of you, in Londonderry, Ireland.

Just to console you we went to the Ulster Museum today to look at the Spanish Armada collection. Following their 1588 defeat by Francis Drake and Co, some of the surviving ships fled north around Scotland and then west of Ireland. One of them, the Girona, got wrecked and sank with the loss of 1500 lives. There’s a good collection of artefacts in the Museum including three guns and a lot of personal items, including jewellery.

Happy sailing!

Tom
Tom
July 9, 2023 4:00 am
Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
July 9, 2023 4:07 am

Testing

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 4:09 am

You know, the good really do die young at times.

Nasrat Ahmad Yar risked his life working alongside U.S. Special Forces troops in Afghanistan. Forced to flee to America when the Taliban took control, he ended up as a Lyft driver to support his family.

That turned out to be his most dangerous work of all.

Ahmad Yar, 31, the father of four young children, was shot dead early Monday morning in Washington, D.C., on his Lyft shift.

https://themessenger.com/news/afghan-interpreter-nasrat-ahman-yar-fought-the-taliban-courageously-with-u-s-troops-he-met-his-death-on-the-brutal-streets-of-america

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
July 9, 2023 4:55 am

Thanks Tom – a few chortles in WIP

Top Ender
Top Ender
July 9, 2023 5:28 am

Read between the lines here:

The Territory’s road toll has climbed to seven after a man was hit by a car in Palmerston.

NT Police Northern Watch Commander Greg Rowe the driver’s car struck the pedestrian on the Stuart Hwy between Lambrick Ave and Temple Tce at 9.02pm Friday.

Sergeant Rowe said police and St John NT attended the scene.

“CPR was commenced, unfortunately the male was declared deceased at 9.33pm,” he said.

Sergeant Rowe police were conducting investigations at the scene and roadblocks were in place along a section of the highway.

“The driver of the vehicle was breath and drug tested and he returned negative results,” he said.

Sergeant Rowe said the driver was “pretty shaken up” by the incident but was uninjured.

NT News

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 9, 2023 6:27 am

This is from the Atlantic. I think they forget the satire label.

The Atlantic is the mouth piece of the deep state.
When they say anything, it’s a road map for the establishment’s pending policy change.
When the Atlantic says it’s time to go Joe, it’s over.

Jorge
Jorge
July 9, 2023 6:39 am

Has Jamie Kah ever visited the White House ?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 7:11 am

Matrix, whatever went wrong with your daughter don’t blame yourself. There’s enough blamers out there for the world to cope with without you adding to them. When a kid goes haywire in a serious way it’s hard to say what drove them to it, but if you gave love and tried to counter some of the insanity around then rest assured it wasn’t you. Parents, especially mothers, often cop it hard even when we do our best.

Donald Triplett was Autism’s Case 1

Obit: Through the dark clouds shining. died 15/6/23 age 89

At first there were words, so many words. “Chrysanthemum!”
was a favourite. He used to like saying that one. And “Dahlia”
too—he liked that one so much he would repeat it: “Dahlia! Dahlia!
Dahlia!” The five-year-old Donald Triplett had non-floral favourites
as well. Sometimes, he sounded like an irate grammarian:
“Semicolon, capital, slain, slain,” he would say. Then, as if
conciliatory: “I could put a little comma.” Some of his phrases had an
almost biblical beauty: “Through the dark clouds shining.”

But if his words could be brilliant his meaning was often opaque.
When he said “you” he meant “me”. When he said “yes” it meant
“pick me up and put me on your shoulders.” When someone stood
on his toy he said “umbrella”. And what he meant by
“chrysanthemum” was anybody’s guess. He had other idiosyncrasies,
too. He shook his head, constantly, from side to side. He gave people
numbers, not just names. And if his toys weren’t just so, he
screamed till the muscles stood out on his neck. Most upsetting of
all, he never seemed glad to see his mother, Mary. But he loved
making things—blocks, pans, ashtrays, anything at all—spin. And
when they span the boy would, as the psychiatrist’s report observed,
jump up and down “in ecstasy”.

There were so many words. But there was no word for Donald. In the
1930s American psychiatry was not short of terms for what they
called “nature’s mistakes”. There was “imbecile” and “cretin” and
“lunatic”; there was “simpleton” and “dullard” and “dunce”. However
there was nothing to describe a little boy who liked to shout
“chrysanthemum” but didn’t hug his mother. Mary begged doctors to
give her a term. She even took her son to Leo Kanner, the best child
psychiatrist in America, but he too demurred. Modern medicine, he
told her, had no words for this. So in despair she came up with her
own. Her son, she wrote, was “hopelessly insane”. Kanner would,
eventually, opt for a more neutral term for Donald. He would call
him “Case 1”.

An earlier doctor, near her home in Forest, Mississippi, had been far
less cautious. He had known exactly what was wrong with Mary’s
boy: it was Mary. She had overstimulated him, with all her songs and
all that talking. He knew how to cure him, too: Mary must put
Donald in an institution, away from her. So she and her husband put
their boy in the family Buick and drove him to a children’s
institution in a town called Sanatorium. Then they left him there.
And, in a way, it worked: Donald’s tantrums and screaming stopped.
However so too did everything else. There was no more humming, or
singing, or spinning. Now Donald did almost nothing at all. He just
sat, motionless, in his regulation white bloomers and top. He was
three years old.

Which was why Mary ended up taking him to Kanner. He was an
Austrian-Jewish psychiatrist who had come to America years before
(he would later help hundreds of people escape from Nazi Germany).
He was never much of a one for putting labels on people: they were
more complicated than that. Then Mary turned up in his office with
her boy Donald, and her husband, and her husband’s 33 pages of
typed notes on his son (“obsessive”, Kanner observed). He read the
notes and he studied the boy. He stuck a pin in Donald’s arm and was
riveted to see that though the boy pushed the pin away, “He was
never angry at the interfering person.” And he could see that this
needed a name.

Kanner started work on a paper. He would include ten other children
in it too but Donald would be his frst: “Case 1”. Many of these
children had wildly different characteristics, he wrote. However they
all shared one thing: an “inability to relate themselves in the
ordinary way to people”. Common English had no word for this, so
Kanner borrowed a word for it from elsewhere in psychiatry. The
word he chose came from a Greek word, “autos”, which meant “self”.
Donald, he wrote, was “autistic”. Kanner went further: this “unique
syndrome not heretofore reported” was rare—but probably more
frequent than “the paucity of observed cases” made it seem. Kanner’s
paper has since been cited 17,000 times.

Later, Kanner would always say that he hadn’t discovered autism: it
was there before. Not that the people of Forest, Mississippi, the
home of its first case, knew much about that. Back in Forest
(population—as Don could tell you—5,330), they hadn’t really heard
about “autism”. But everyone knew Don. After those spells away, Don
had come back to Forest and spent the rest of his life there: he
graduated from high school there; learned to drive there; he even got
a job in the bank there: he could add long numbers in his head faster
than you could type them into a calculator. Sure, he was different.
And never much of a one for chit-chat. But that was just Don. Too
clever for his own good. A genius, they reckoned.

And he was happy. He still gave numbers to people, too. Pastor Mark
was 472. His friend Celeste was 1,315. Olivia and Toby were 154 and
155. And he just loved to flick people with rubber bands. At first he
had flicked his colleagues at work, but then he got in a whole lot of
trouble for that. So he took to getting his fellow workers when they
were out and about. In the grocery store. In the parking lot. He used
to keep the bands on his wrist so he was always ready. He
particularly liked to flick Celeste in church. She’d feel the flick—it
really stung!—and she’d know: that’s Don.

Later, when other people started to know who Don was too, Forest
looked out for him. When some journalists had wanted to write
about him, they’d approached locals to ask if they could be
introduced. Sure, they had said. Then they had said: and if you hurt
him in any way we’ll make sure you regret it. Don’s story became a
book; the book became a film, “In A Different Key”; and Don became
an entry in the “Encyclopaedia Britannica”.

Though to the people of Forest, he was always just Don. The pastor
who preached at his funeral began his sermon by introducing
himself with his number: I’m 472, he said. Later, others in the
congregation had joined in: I’m 1,316. I’m 40. I’m 30. But Don had
never given himself a number, so neither did they. To them, Donald
Triplett—Case 1—was always just Don. 7

This article appeared in the Obituary section of the print edition of The Economist

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 7:17 am

Apologies for the cut and past formatting above. It looked alright in this box but with the internet you can never tell what’s lurking beneath.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 7:33 am

It broke my heart yesterday. Little fellow turned up at our door happy and smiling. Hello, so nice to see you, I say, bending down to him as he walks in and walks right by me without recognition. Gama huz, he says. Grandma’s house. Cat, he says. Attapuss has already fled behind the curtains. He is blank around people even his Dad, who picks him up a lot, because then he laughs and giggles. He used to sit on my knee when he was smaller and watch Thomas the Tank Engine. When a tree falls on the line he becomes super-excited and yells crash, crash, as Edward bumps into it and Thomas comes to the rescue. He won’t sit on my knee these days, he hangs upside down dribbling on the leather sofa biting it, before scattering some blocks everywhere, but his reaction to the same story is the same and he waits for the moment. Crash, crash. Except it sounds more like ash, ash. Is his very limited speech devolving? We are all anxious about that.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 7:48 am

Hairy sits quietly reading the paper. He doesn’t even try to interact any more with the child because it’s like speaking to a wall. He’s nursing hurts about it, I think, his own grandson. Life is hard, but some do it harder, I say later. I am reminded of one of my cousins in Louisiana, sprung from an oil-rigger’s two-bedroom shack by the Bayou to become a leading doctor and property owner in the town and who paid for his daughter to become the New Orleans charity Mardi Gras Queen and who sent his easy-going son to medical school in Nasau because he didn’t get into a local US med school.

That boy, his pride and joy, at age 22 when doing his medical internship, developed a deteriorating brain condition that in eight months left him so disabled he was institutionalised and had to be fed. His newly-wed wife cared for him till he died a year and a half after that. My cousin’s wife, the boy’s mother, had died from a similar brain condition some years before but no-one thought or knew it was genetic.

My cousin still holds to his strong Catholic faith, as does my other cousin, the one we stay with, whose wife now has increasingly obvious Alzheimer’s disease. Their faith is a comfort to them, as it was to my aunt, a convert on her marriage, who died aged 99 in 2022. So glad we saw her and them all, ignoring Covid in 2020.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 9, 2023 7:59 am

Yet more backfiring from the Voice proponents (the Tele):

A member of Anthony Albanese’s Referendum Engagement Group on the proposed Voice to Parliament has described Australia as “a nation without a soul” and believes our national day on January 26 should be abolished.

Teela Reid, a lawyer and academic at the University of Sydney is an Uluru Dialogue leader and member of the Referendum Engagement Group, who in January was described by the PM as part of the next generation of “remarkable” Indigenous leaders.

Yes. Ms Reid is indeed remarkable. This is what she said two months ago:

“Racism is synonymous with Australia. Australia wouldn’t exists without racism. Racism has nothing to do with the colour of your skin, it has everything to do with power & privilege” and: “There is no point in blackfullas trying to explain our pain to a nation without a soul”.

In January, in response to a proposal on Twitter that Australia Day be moved, Ms Reid responded: “How very Aussie is this; let’s ignore history, find a new meaningless date to celebrate, and forget that the Blaks ever declared 26 Jan a Day of Mourning” adding “It’s always been #AbolishAustraliaDay changing the date is a cop out.”

Nice. Seems like Reid wants a bit of ‘power and privilege’ from the average punter currently paying for it. Nothing like getting in ahead, jockeying for a ‘leadership’ position. And the cash that comes with it.

In 2020 she wrote in the Griffith Review: “The struggle for a First Nations Voice has been 250 years coming, ever since Captain Cook landed uninvited in 1770”

What? Uninvited?

You mean there wasn’t a Welcome to Country?

Helen
Helen
July 9, 2023 8:09 am

Thanks for sharing, Lizzie. Tell Hairy to hug you, instead, every time he wants to hug the little one. There is much said in a wordless hug and much comfort.

I shall be extra thankful today for smaller mercies and more forgiving for failures.

But not for the InVoice or groomers.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 8:18 am

Lizzie,
I have read all your comments overnight and into this morning. I am struggling to find words except, wow. I have absolutely no idea what you are going through, how it feels.
I am glad though, that you have shared here. It must be so devastating when your child doesn’t crush their warm little body to your own, when they beg “more, more, do it again”, when you do horsie or aeroplane.

I have only been with autistic kids when I worked with Riding for the Disabled. I don’t know if the kids gained anything from it, but it certainly gave the mother’s a much needed respite for an hour or two.

As you well know, putting sad things into written words can sometimes act as a bit of a purge for a few blessed hours.

Stay warm and dry. The weather is positively evil down here.

Johnny Rotten
July 9, 2023 8:19 am

When I die, I hope to go to Heaven, whatever the Hell that is.

– Ayn Rand

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 8:23 am

Speaking to his Dad a couple of days ago, the desperate Father asked whether it ever happened when he was a kid and how he would have reacted.
“What do you think”?

We refused to accept it when my second son aged 13 did that. So I’d drop him at a local high school (his second one) and he’d go in and I’d think well, that’s done, and an hour later I’d get a call, he’d absconded for the day. This happened so often. I tried to get help, we all sat in family counselling sessions, except he wasn’t there. He wouldn’t come. The truant officer was no help at all. A psychologist said he’s getting lost in a family of four, especially with his older brother behaving autistically, and suggested sending him to his father for a year, which both he and his father had said they wanted to do. OK, so we did that, and then the boy felt shoved out of the family and his father was neglectful leaving him far too often to his own devices and his father’s new wife hated him, so we said come back home, and we sent him to a private school that took ‘difficult’ children, where he academically did well but socially went more downhill, starting to stay out late at night. We put all sorts of conditions on him but he fought every bit of the way. We tried gentle negotiating too, but that didn’t work either. In desperation, I took the advice of Hairy and friends and we sent him to boarding school, but he ran away from there constantly. He ended up back with us and back at the older easy-going private school, from which he eventually managed to get to university.

There is so much more to this tale, but in essence the outside culture (especially in the inner city with his father) said he could do what he liked, and with a recalcitrant child it can be disastrous. You struggle through, hoping that the drugs don’t take over with them. For the drug issues also arise in this context. We flushed marihuana down the toilet if we found it at home, but elsewhere in his ambit it was condoned or tolerated.

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 8:26 am

New housing approvals at lowest level since 2007, meaning supply will continue to tighten and rents increase for at least three years as state Labor governments preside over an approvals process tied up in red and green tape.

Former VIC ALP campaign director & current head of Redbridge lobbying firm, Kon Samaras, has linked declining Voice support directly to the housing crisis, while also predicting that Labor electorates being hardest hit will be “volatile” at the next federal election in 2025.

If the Liberals can’t tailor a plan to sweep Mr 32% and the dregs of the R-G-R years from office by then they’re not worth their salt.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 8:26 am

Here’s a story that parallels Titan the Imploder in a small way.

” July 9
Seeking to prove to a class of law students that the glass in his office building was unbreakable, Canadian lawyer Garry Hoy jumped at the window at speed on July 9, 1993.

Unfortunately, while the glass pane remained intact, the seals on the window frame gave way

Hoy fell 24 floors to his death from the Toronto-Dominion Centre.

The bizarre death traumatised the students and led to the closing of Holden Day Wilson, one of the largest law firms in Canada.”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 8:29 am

That son is 48 now, and I think there is more understanding and psychological help from the schools these days too if school refusal has become a problem, also more help for families with how to deal with it. Just accepting it is no answer at all. Something is disturbing the child and the culture makes it easy for the disturbance to be expressed through school refusal.

Tom
Tom
July 9, 2023 8:35 am

Being a Labor parrot, Sky’s Andrew Clennell invites on some spotty twentysomething from the Greens on to lay the boots into the SFLs over Robodebt. FMD.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 8:35 am

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As it’s Sunday, we thanks for what we are about to receive. 😀

Hope the link works, still working on how to use my lap top.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 8:37 am

GIVE thanks. sheesh.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 9, 2023 8:41 am

Using ‘died’, if it was recent, is seen as a little gauche. You can however speak of their ‘death’.

If a person dies on the table, but is resuscitated, should we say ‘they are out of their death’?

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 8:41 am

If the Liberals can’t tailor a plan to sweep Mr 32% and the dregs of the R-G-R years from office by then they’re not worth their salt.

[BIRM]

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 8:42 am

Zero Mostel is up early today.

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 8:43 am

In 2020 she wrote in the Griffith Review: “The struggle for a First Nations Voice has been 250 years coming, ever since Captain Cook landed uninvited in 1770”

What? Uninvited?

You mean there wasn’t a Welcome to Country?

KD, my first laugh if the day.

I particularly detest the possessive “our pain” coming from a well paid and tenured university lecturer who likewise has no idea of “our pain” in the mortgage belt.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 9, 2023 8:44 am

Unzud Telcos join the TRA bandwagon.

Johnny Rotten
July 9, 2023 8:47 am

Zelensky Cancels All Elections Becomes Dictator for Life

QUESTION: Is it true that Zelensky is canceling elections?

HZ

ANSWER: On June 22, 2023, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a dictator installed by the West to create World War III against Russia. Zelensky told the BBC that Ukraine’s scheduled 2023 parliamentary and 2024 presidential elections would occur only if martial law had ended by that time, as reported by the New Voice of Ukraine. Hence, he has a personal reason not to seek any peace whatsoever.

There is NO WAY Zelensky is fighting for democracy – this is all propaganda. He hates Russians and refuses to allow them to separate as per the Mink Agreement and, at the same time, refuses them to vote in any Ukrainian election, no less for their independence. Zelensky is an outright war criminal, and over 8 million Ukrainians have now fled their own country because he refuses to end the war and is destroying his own country all for Blackrock’s investment scheme. His own people would remove him from office, so he cannot allow any election, and there is no way NATO or the USA will allow free elections in Ukraine.

There is no way this war will end without the Donbas’ destruction and Russia’s fall. It is a proxy war that the United States started. CIA chief John Brennan traveled to Kiev in 2014 and instructed them to begin the civil war. Kiev called the Russians of the Donbas “terrorist” because they sought independence from Kiev just as Kiev sought independence from Moscow.

Biden & Harris are clearly a no-brainer for the Neocons. There is way too much at stake. If the Neocons could, they would suspend elections in the USA as well. These people have wanted to destroy Russia for decades. They have waged endless wars, one after the other, and never won a single one. The Taliban are now major arms dealers selling billions of dollars of the weapons we left behind. They intend to escalate Ukraine and need to get the US directly involved because they cling to the idea that no president has ever lost an election during a time of war. They need to escalate this war and soon. The rumor is that Ukraine will detonate a dirty nuclear bomb and blame Russia, and then NATO and the USA invade.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/ukraine/zelensky-cancels-all-elections-become-dictator-for-life/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 8:50 am

If a person dies on the table, but is resuscitated, should we say ‘they are out of their death’?

I’d go medical, and say they didn’t die. Some, when retailing the event might say they didn’t ‘pass away’ on the table, but I think that would sound particularly prissy.

As I’ve said, I don’t like ‘pass away’ but when in a group where it is used, I use it too.

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 8:51 am

Pogria
Jul 9, 2023 8:35 AM
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As it’s Sunday, we thanks for what we are about to receive. ?

Thanks, I took a screenshot to send to family dog owners.

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 8:52 am

Zero Mostel is up early today.

Meh…he’s got nothing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 8:54 am

There’s enough blamers out there for the world to cope with without you adding to them. When a kid goes haywire in a serious way it’s hard to say what drove them to it …

Err, Lizzie, that is the whole point.
Titsoff did assign lots of blame to those within the kid’s circle.
If you start from the premise that gender transitions are strongly influenced by environmental factors, it is a breathtaking lack of self awareness if you then totally exclude the possibility that you (as one of the parents) were even a tiny contributor to the situation.

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 8:55 am

“Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Jul 9, 2023 7:33 AM”

Thanks Lizzie, it’s heartbreaking reading. Stay strong.

I remember last year, on the 333 bus returning home from work, there was an older woman sitting with a beautiful little boy. The boy was about three or four. I remember sitting across from her and she told me that the boy doesn’t speak, not a word. She cares for him.

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July 9, 2023 8:56 am

July last year I paid for some water-proofing … should I ask for my money back?

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 9, 2023 8:56 am

KD

Nice. Seems like Reid wants a bit of ‘power and privilege’ from the average punter currently paying for it. Nothing like getting in ahead, jockeying for a ‘leadership’ position. And the cash that comes with it.

In 2020 she wrote in the Griffith Review: “The struggle for a First Nations Voice has been 250 years coming, ever since Captain Cook landed uninvited in 1770”

What? Uninvited?

You mean there wasn’t a traditional Welcome to Country?

I have inserted the important word that you missed.

It is, after all, a verrrrry loooong standing tradition? Isn’t it?

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 8:57 am

Crossie,
happy you liked it. I have hundreds of funny dog and cat memes. As a dog and cat owner, I can vouch for the reality of most of them. 😀

Here’s another which is appropriate for the current dreadful weather we are having.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 9:00 am

Seeking to prove to a class of law students that the glass in his office building was unbreakable, Canadian lawyer Garry Hoy jumped at the window at speed on July 9, 1993.

Unfortunately, while the glass pane remained intact, the seals on the window frame gave way

Installed by Titsoff and Son, amateur waterproofing contractors.
Their motto “Just a dob will do. If they can’t see it, they can’t sue.”

sfw
sfw
July 9, 2023 9:00 am

Roger -“If the Liberals can’t tailor a plan to sweep Mr 32% and the dregs of the R-G-R years from office by then they’re not worth their salt.”

You know that the Libs won’t do anything. Dutton’s a trier but that’s it. They just dumped Rennick, the state branches are utterly useless and the ranks of the Lib pollies are full of people who would be more at home in the Labor party.

The conservative /libertarian minors are in an ideal position to merge and form a powerful force in Aussie politics but they won’t. Too many ‘pure’ libertarians in the LDP, and too many big personalities in PHON and UAP. Without another Menzies to get these ego and policy driven minors together there won’t be a resurgence of conservative/liberal values in politics for the rest of our lives.

There’s a mass of people who want such a party but nobody seems to want them.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 9:00 am

Roger,
LOL!

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 9:01 am

Tom
Jul 9, 2023 8:35 AM
Being a Labor parrot, Sky’s Andrew Clennell invites on some spotty twentysomething from the Greens on to lay the boots into the SFLs over Robodebt. FMD.

The only comment Clennell made to the little green communist about rent freeze was that people would sell their rental properties if that were to happen. He didn’t seem to see anything wrong with a government deciding what people will do with their property, that it is tantamount to nationalisation.

There is a whole reservoir of empty properties that were purchased by Chinese nationals who do not live here. These are simply money parked away from the CCP reach. Why did we allow this at all? Why not buy back these properties if the government is going to dictate to owners?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 9, 2023 9:01 am

Australia’s Future under Labor & Greens – Albosleezy, Minister for Climate Change and Energy – Chris Bowen

Nuclear Phaseout, Green Energy Transition Causing German Industry and Power Production to Leave

Germany has gone from being an electricity exporter to being an importer.

Germany’s powerful environmental movement not only vilified fossil fuels, but also nuclear power. So much so, in fact, that Germany has shut down its entire fleet of nuclear power plants over the recent years.

Moreover, Germany plans to exit all fossil fuel power generation by 2038.

So where can Germany get its power from? The government doesn’t have a plan for that. Coalition partner The Greens claim that it is no problem to get it cheaply from wind and sun. But that’s a lie.

Already since Germany shut down its last three remaining nuclear power plants, the country has had to turn to its neighbors to keep the lights on. Germany has gone from being an exporter of electricity to an importer.

Power generation isn’t the only thing that’s getting imported. Due to the country’s record high electricity and energy prices brought on by the transition to green energies (Energiewende), German companies are leaving or planning to leave the country in droves. The environment has become too hostile to do business.

Companies plan to relocate

Euractiv here reports “16% of the medium-sized companies have already initiated steps to relocate parts of their business” and that “another 30% are considering following suit.”

“Almost two-thirds of the companies we interviewed consider prices of energy and resources to be among the most pressing challenges,” said German Association of Industry President Siegfried Russwurm, citing a recent survey of businesses.

Currently Germany’s economic growth is in recession, “with high energy costs and the EU’s carbon prices repeatedly cited as reasons for undermining the country as a location to do business.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 9:01 am

July last year I paid for some water-proofing … should I ask for my money back?

Depends.
Are the tears of self-pity leaking through to the floor below?

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 9:02 am

Sancho,
enough. It’s a new day. Everyone has started fresh.

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 9:03 am

Here’s another which is appropriate for the current dreadful weather we are having.

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Ha! Reminds me of my daughter’s caboodle that did that on my carpet a few months ago.

johanna
johanna
July 9, 2023 9:06 am

Largely incomprehensible (to me) article at TheirABC about popular music ‘charts’.

One thing leapt off the page, though:

“A stat that I heard the other day was that 80 per cent of music discovery is of old music. In other words, only 20 per cent of music discovery is of new music, and that includes Taylor’s new album, or Beyonce’s new album.”

Well, well. All those ‘hearing for the first time’ videos of black rappers who were blown away by Pink Floyd and Al Green and … you get the idea … revealed a truth. Most modern ‘music’ is crap compared to that produced in the Golden Era of the early 60s to the mid (at best) 80s.

It’s normal. Art forms have high points and low points, throughout history. Many of us here were lucky enough to enjoy the extraordinary explosion of popular musical talent which is now well and truly over.

I mean, Taylor Swift? Insipid and boring, not a jot of originality. Compared to The Beach Boys, The Stones, The Zombies, The Animals – I could go on – passion and creativity beyond what she and her huge entourage of music massagers could even imagine.

One of the pubs here in Queanbeyan does live music once a week – usually $35 a head plus extortionate drink prices. Packed out. They get the remnants of old bands from the 70s/80s plus a newer band as a warmup.

I happened to hear some sounds from outside a while back, thought ‘that sounds good’ and it turned out to be The Radiators.

This digital stuff is all very well, but punters love live music, always will.

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 9:10 am

He didn’t seem to see anything wrong with a government deciding what people will do with their property, that it is tantamount to nationalisation.

He might want to check in with his suburban property tycoon party colleagues first.

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 9:12 am

Crossie,
I had a much loved dog who adored swimming. Would dive into any creek, river or dam and swim for ages. But, pouring rain! When I would let him out to do his business if it was raining, he would dump on the verandah. 🙂

MatrixTransform
July 9, 2023 9:13 am

btw, thanks for the kind words Lizzie

it’s a difficult thing

remember the three C’s

I didn’t Cause it, I can’t Cure it, and I cannot Control it.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
July 9, 2023 9:13 am

Thanks all for your kind thoughts. It’s a beautiful morning in Sydney and I’m going to feed the birds now rather than blog the past.

Calli, enjoy Iceland. It is a really strange geophysical environment. A huge geological gap runs through the middle of it down to the earth’s crust. It is, of course, dedicated as Odin’s gap. Then there are the hot water spouts and the volcanos and the black rocks everywhere. It’s a Sunday morning on a family blog so I won’t say what the hot water spouts say Odin is up to. 😉

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 9:14 am

You know that the Libs won’t do anything. Dutton’s a trier but that’s it. They just dumped Rennick, the state branches are utterly useless and the ranks of the Lib pollies are full of people who would be more at home in the Labor party.

The Outsiders are discussing this topic just now and Rita used the same words you did that there are many people in the Liberal Party who would be more comfortable in Labor.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 9, 2023 9:16 am

Roger
Jul 9, 2023 9:10 AM
He didn’t seem to see anything wrong with a government deciding what people will do with their property, that it is tantamount to nationalisation.

He might want to check in with his suburban property tycoon party colleagues first.

Classical proof that “Hypocrisy, thy name is leftard”. See also mUnty, the resident slumlord/kulak pseudo-“socialist”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 9:16 am

Daily Mail.

Missing’ David Sharaz is FOUND on the Gold Coast – and fiancée Brittany Higgins’ mum drops by – after months of dodging pursuit by Linda Reynolds’ lawyers over his string of ‘defamatory’ tweets

Senator Reynolds is suing Mr Sharaz over tweets
Lawyers said in court they had been unable to serve writ

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 9, 2023 9:17 am

State education systems differ with special needs kids. Know of an autistic child with epilepsy who has resided in both Queensland & NSW. The level of care he received in Queensland is much higher than NSW even from the public system. Other jurisdictions am unsure.

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 9:17 am

Due to the country’s record high electricity and energy prices brought on by the transition to green energies (Energiewende), German companies are leaving or planning to leave the country in droves. The environment has become too hostile to do business.

When he’s done with his incisive contibutions to the NATO Summit in Latvia this week, Elbow will pop across to Germany to discuss furthering green energy cooperation between our two countries.

“I’m from ‘straya and I’m here to help” (gobbets of spit flying in all directions].

Safe hands.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 9:20 am

“There is no point in blackfullas trying to explain our pain to a nation without a soul”.

Go on, picking at the scabs, and wondering why the wounds never heal…

duncanm
duncanm
July 9, 2023 9:20 am

David Sacks

@DavidSacks
Rules-Based International Order v23.7.7

This update contains the following enhancements and bug fixes:

? Cluster bombs have been upgraded from war crime to important tool to bring the killing to an end.

All countries should update as soon as possible.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 9, 2023 9:20 am

Crossie

The Outsiders are discussing this topic just now and Rita used the same words you did that there are many people in the Liberal Party who would be more comfortable in Labor.

But, like Turdballs, they know that their lack of factional allegiances developed over many years starting at or before university, they have no hope of achieving power in the Liars. So they worm their way into the Lieborals, to have the opportunity for the ministerial perks.

The true proof of them being leftards is their hypocrisy.

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 9:20 am

Brilliant, The Outsiders have just laid into Chris Kenny with a cricket bat for accusing them of “misinformation”. He was also howled down by both Sharri Markson and Liz Storer when he maid that accusation on his show.

If Chris Kenny is unfair about one thing I find that I cannot trust him about any other issue, but that’s just me.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 9, 2023 9:25 am

… that with their lack …

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 9, 2023 9:28 am

Grifter alert! John Masanauskas brings news from the Hun which will provide a snapshot for future Voice machinations:

Actor Tasma Walton has become embroiled in a legal stoush involving a large Aboriginal land claim over parts of Melbourne and Gippsland.

Ms Walton, who is the wife of TV personality Rove McManus, believes she has Indigenous ancestry after taking a DNA test.

She is among several people linked to the Frankston-based Bunurong Land Council who will give evidence in the Federal Court next week over a claim by another Aboriginal group.

So it seems 2 groups are trying to claim the same land.

The rival Boonwurrung Land and Sea Council is pursuing a land claim involving 13,000 sq/km of territory, but this is being challenged by Bunurong members, including Ms Walton.

The court will decide if Ms Walton and others are descended from Indigenous people who “at sovereignty, held rights and interests in any part of the land and waters” covered by the land claim application stretching from southeast Melbourne to Wilsons Promontory.

Fair slab of land. Believe that includes Phillip Island, which of course the penguins attract a large number of visitors, therefore cash.

Ms Walton has previously said that on her mother’s side “my ancestors were taken from their (Victorian) clan and brought over to Western Australia”.

The Home and Away and Blue Heelers actor, who married McManus in 2009 and has a daughter with him, said her ancestors were “made to become white” to fit into the “colonised world”.

I see.

It was reported her DNA test showed she had 93 per cent British and seven per cent “unknown” heritage.

Court documents show that the judge will rule if a woman called Eliza Nowan was a Boonwurrung/Bunurong member “at sovereignty”, and whether Ms Walton is descended from her.

So Walton’s beef at first is to prove she is Aboriginal first to engage in the land claim challenge. Or 7% thereof.

Similar rulings will be made for other Bunurong council members including Gail Dawson and Sonia Murray.

Leading the land claim for the Boonwurrung Land and Sea Council is Carolyn Briggs, who has previously criticised Victoria’s Aboriginal Heritage Council for recognising the Bunurong Land Council as the official representative of the Boonwurrung people.

She has claimed that the Bunurong group is run by people from interstate who have no connection to Boonwurrung land.

I wonder where Ms Briggs lives?

In 2022, Ms Briggs slammed environmental body Trust for Nature over its intention to transfer a donated Phillip Island property owned by the family of late satirist John Clarke to the Bunurong council.

“Once again we have been ignored and decisions made for us by non-Indigenous people,” Ms Briggs said at the time.

Trust for Nature chair Gayle Austen said then that the donated land was private property, and as such was not affected by and nor did it affect the Boonwurrung’s land claim.

In May, it was reported that two former Bunurong Land Council executives were accused of a $150,000-plus fraud against the organisation.

Both men denied the allegations.

Bunurong Land Council declined to comment on next week’s Federal Court case.

I guess the voice will ‘give advice’ on matters from who is Aboriginal enough (does 7% cut it FFS?) through to land claims of course, and will also stick it’s nose where it isn’t wanted, like where proceeds of property sales go.
Again, Teh Voice won’t be beneficial to anyone, black, brindle, white, Asian, except themselves. Hence the jockeying for position on the 22 member board.
FMD

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 9:29 am

Pogria

Jul 9, 2023 9:02 AM

Sancho,
enough. It’s a new day. Everyone has started fresh.

I think you missed someone, Blog Monitor.

lotocoti
lotocoti
July 9, 2023 9:30 am

A workable hypothesis.

…those people will have to believe they did the right thing for the rest of their lives..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 9, 2023 9:31 am

I didn’t Cause it, I can’t Cure it, and I cannot Control it.

So how can you be sure others “Caused it”?

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 9:34 am

“I had a much loved dog who adored swimming. Would dive into any creek, river or dam and swim for ages. But, pouring rain! When I would let him out to do his business if it was raining, he would dump on the verandah. ?”

Oh, that brought a great memory of a much loved dog. After we moved to Perth my parents bought a house with a swimming pool. My father loved cleaning the pool, it was part of his ‘shed’ routine. I remember sitting under the carport doing an assignment, watching Dad, it was 1980 or 1981, and I remember my father tying up our cattle dog, and pointing the finger at the dog to stay….STAY. The reason he was being tied up was because this cattle dog was completely nuts, loved swimming, particularly when other people were in the pool, when he’d jump in to much joy from all of us. My father’s ritual was always to swim after cleaning the pool, so he’d cleaned the pool, and then he dived in. Well, the dog knew what was about to happen and as my father was diving in, the cattle dog broke free, ran and jumped into the pool as my father was about to swim his first stroke! I still remember my father’s face, he was furious, but of course, who can be angry at a dog for too long! God’s special creatures they are.

Crossie
Crossie
July 9, 2023 9:34 am

Ms Walton, who is the wife of TV personality Rove McManus, believes she has Indigenous ancestry after taking a DNA test.

She is among several people linked to the Frankston-based Bunurong Land Council who will give evidence in the Federal Court next week over a claim by another Aboriginal group.

So it seems 2 groups are trying to claim the same land.

You would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh at this even though it has the potential to bite us all in the bum.

JC
JC
July 9, 2023 9:36 am

Man oh man, there are so many self appointed blog monitors these days. Mind your own business, Pogria.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 9:38 am

Actor Tasma Walton has become embroiled in a legal stoush involving a large Aboriginal land claim over parts of Melbourne and Gippsland.

Ms Walton, who is the wife of TV personality Rove McManus, believes she has Indigenous ancestry after taking a DNA test.

Anybody imagine the legal dogfight that’s going to erupt when “Compensation” and “Reparations ” are up for grabs?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 9, 2023 9:39 am

UK Cancer trust defends calling vagina ‘bonus hole’

Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust included the term – along with ‘front hole’ – in an LGBT glossary for health professionals

Medical charity Jo’s Cervical Cancer Trust has defended suggesting health professionals use the terms ‘bonus hole’ and ‘front hole’ in place of ‘vagina’ to accommodate trans men and non-binary patients for cervical screenings, telling the Daily Mail on Saturday that the guidance on its website is not meant for all patients.

The trust explained the language wasn’t directed at “all women,” but that it was taken from a guide for health professionals looking to encourage trans-men and non-binary female-bodied individuals to come in for cervical cancer screenings.

“It is a list of phrases that nurses may hear some patients prefer,” a spokesperson clarified, noting the glossary had been “developed with expert organizations who work with the LGBT community.”

While admitting that “women are our main audience” at the cervical cancer trust, the spokesperson stressed that Jo’s mission was to screen as many cervixes as possible, no matter whose.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 9, 2023 9:40 am

N’arweet Carolyn Briggs AM is a Yaluk-ut Weelam and Boon Wurrung elder, and the Boon Wurrung representative in the City of Port Phillip.[1] She is the founder and chair of the Boon Wurrung Foundation.[2][3] She was awarded the National Aboriginal Elder of the Year in 2011 by the National NAIDOC Committee. She was inducted into the Victorian Honour Roll of Women in 2005.[4] She was awarded a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) as part of the 2019 Queen’s Birthday Honours list.[5][6]

From Wikipedia. It also appears she has a spot at RMIT where she is an, ahem, doctor. With these qualifications:

– PhD (began at Swinburne, completed at RMIT)
– B Arts (Linguistics) (Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education)

Another who wants one of the 22 spots available.

sfw
sfw
July 9, 2023 9:42 am

Taylor Swift, my (then) teenage daughter used to play her music a lot, that’s the only reason I’m familiar with it, and she did play a lot of it.

Anyway came across this somewhat strange German band, The Heimatdamisch, they do an amazing job of the Taylor Swift song ‘Shake it Off’. I’m often amazed how a different arrangement of a song can change it into something good and catchy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c6U1H4j2YM

Roger
Roger
July 9, 2023 9:46 am

N’arweet Carolyn Briggs AM is a Yaluk-ut Weelam and Boon Wurrung elder, and the Boon Wurrung representative in the City of Port Phillip.

If house & land development proposals are being choked by local politics presently (see upthread), just imagine what it will be like if every council in the land has to have representatives of the local indigenous clans on board courtesy the Voice.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 9, 2023 9:49 am

Daily Mail.

Inside the world of teenage transitions in Australia where 13-year-olds are having their breasts removed after one letter from a psychiatrist – which teens can’t even do in Thailand – and mums humblebrag with before and after pics on Facebook

Children with gender dysphoria are having mastectomies
One clinic is willing to operate on children as young as 13

Pogria
Pogria
July 9, 2023 9:52 am

Bill and Ben the Flowerpot men are tag-teaming again. Yawn…..

Cassie of Sydney
July 9, 2023 9:53 am

A vagina is not a “hole”, it’s a “muscular tube leading from the external genitals to the cervix of the uterus in women and most female mammals.”

So, when will we read a description of a penis as a “stick”, a “rod”, a “beanbole”, a “twig”, or a “stub”?

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