Open Thread – Weekend 15 July 2023


Marie Antoinette being taken to her Execution, William Hamiliton, 1794

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Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 10:34 am

Fast driving, hand-eye coordination, etc.
What would flyingduk know about any of this anyway? What depth of experience & intense involvement could he possibly have that would match a few sunday-morning-in-pyjamas-with-a-cup-of-cocoa throwaway lines about waterproofing … er.. driving & hand/eye coordination?

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2023 10:35 am

I think we should do away with upticks.

I thought this was Dovers blog?

Having only only uptics reeks of needy ‘progressivism’.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
July 16, 2023 10:40 am

how many ticks would an uptick tick if an uptick could up ticks?
It’s a mystery.
?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2023 10:44 am

When I was in NZ early in the year my host took me fishing. They have access trails locked so he and his mates got big padlocks with the name of electricity companies or communication companies engraved on the lock. They cut off the first link and put their one on beside the Conservation lock. So far no problem.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 16, 2023 10:46 am

I suggest a poll to determine the level of support (or not) for upticks.

The poll should be measured by upticks.

At the conclusion of the uptick poll, calculated by uptick metric, a clear result should be obtained as to who wants upticks, and who does not want upticks.

After that – the poll should be put in a bin and set on fire, because if blog management wants upticks, then upticks there shall be.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
July 16, 2023 10:48 am

That was funny Gez. Imagine being so entitled he couldn’t do it himself even if he is one.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2023 10:49 am

Your home being damaged due to heavy machinery operations? Andrews will compensate you. Just maybe not what you require, Ian Royall reports:

Residents who say West Gate Tunnel works have badly damaged their Brooklyn homes have been offered free window cleaning and a $20 pizza voucher as compensation.

The frames of the houses near the Millers Rd exit ramp have dropped by as much as 110mm because of vibration and heavy machinery operating nearby, the householders say.

Piling to sink posts for the noise screens, as well as constant traffic had moved the subsoil, even cracking the road.

The site was used as a depot for machinery, trucks and other equipment.

“We’ve had diggers, bobcats, cranes, everything,’’ one resident told the Saturday Herald Sun.

Homeowner Yusuf Balla says his home of 55 years started cracking when the tunnel and freeway works began four years ago.

But larger gaps opened up after a two-month, 24-hour construction blitz last spring for the over-budget and behind-schedule project to build a tunnel and widen the freeway.

Now internal sliding doors are so warped that opening them is an effort and his driveway concrete has split.

“It’s so frustrating. My message is: ‘Dan, fix my house,’’ he said in a call to the premier.

“The superstructure works have damaged my house and they are not taking responsibility for it.’’

In a neighbour’s home, similar problems have appeared and worsened. Growing cracks, doors don’t close, while gaps have opened up under architraves and cornices have come adrift.

“Just acknowledge there’s a problem and fix it,’’ she said.

“The west needs this (freeway) but why do we have to be collateral damage?’’

“We have been told the soil is ‘reactive’ but if that’s the case why are they building these big structures, never mind an underground tunnel?’’ the neighbour said.

The residents said offers from the project of window cleaning, gutter clearing and a $20 pizza voucher were not the answer to their issues and was simply an insult. (FMD)

The project’s insurers have had building inspectors and surveyors review their cases but the residents are still without answers.

Hundreds of trucks and other heavy vehicles including cranes used the narrow street, despite a six-tonne load limit.

A West Gate Tunnel Project spokesperson said pre-construction condition surveys were offered to properties in the street before the start of project works.

“There is an independent mediation process in place to assess claims of property damage.

“Any damage found to be caused by project works are subject to independent assessment and are the responsibility of the project builder and their insurer.”

Project representatives also met residents last week to discuss their concerns.

And there was pineapple on the pizza.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 10:52 am

The residents said offers from the project of window cleaning, gutter clearing and a $20 pizza voucher were not the answer to their issues and was simply an insult.

Time to lawyer up.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 11:02 am

They were offered a Dilapidation Survey before the project started.
If they were too dumb to take up the offer, how is that Andrews fault>
I say, take the Pizza while you still can.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2023 11:03 am

If You Were A Sheep During Covid, Admit You Were Wrong And Do Better Next Time

Those who were Covid cowards need to stand up against tyranny in the future. It’s the least they can do.

If you were one of those people who always diligently wore an ineffective mask, got the experimental vaccine and boosters, or performatively practiced social distancing, you really owe an apology to those who stood up for civil liberties during Covid and must commit to being smarter and braver in the future.

The Covid years mark what was arguably the greatest encroachment on personal freedom and bodily autonomy in the history of our country. The government decimated the American economy by forcibly closing businesses. It enacted unethical and anti-science mask mandates and government employee vaccine mandates, even though the Covid shots do not prevent people from spreading or contracting the virus.

Many counties and cities made life for the unvaccinated as uncomfortable as possible, with some prohibiting them from dining in restaurants and going to the gym or entertainment venues.

Meanwhile, private businesses and schools had their own social distancing, vaccine, and mask requirements, with even many churches bending the knee.

It was at least somewhat reasonable to wear a mask or social distance at the very beginning of Covid because there were so many unknowns about the virus. Yet the insanity lasted for years, well after it was clear the response to the virus was causing more harm than good and studies showed the lockdowns were futile, cloth masks were not effective, and the vaccine was causing serious injuries.

To avoid judgment, go out to dinner, and even keep their jobs, a disturbing number of Americans were compliant with the Covid nonsense. A smaller number of people, however, resisted. They allowed themselves to be fired or expelled to avoid the vaccine mandates. They forwent indoor dining and entertainment, and they walked through the airport with uncovered faces as dystopian loud speakers repeated over and over, “Federal law requires you to wear a mask covering your nose and mouth at all times.”

Covid had only the power we the people gave it.

Had enough Americans refused to shutter their businesses and comply with vaccine and mask mandates, the performative fear would have ceased to control us.

The most crucial thing to understand about the government and social reaction to Covid is that it was an experiment. During the 2020 World Economic Forum, Chairman Klaus Schwab and then-Prince Charles announced the infamous “Great Reset,” a WEF economic project that seeks to use Covid as a vehicle for limiting Western freedom and promoting globalism.

Charles stated that Covid “offers an unprecedented opportunity to rethink and reset the ways in which we live and do business.” The WEF’s “revolutionary reset” calls on world leaders to implement the forum’s socialist master plan for transitioning economies from relying on coal, oil, and natural gas to insufficient supplies of wind and solar power.

Essentially, government leaders exploited the fear surrounding Covid, using it to implement disastrous economic policies that kill the middle class and will eventually create a form of neo-feudalism that only benefits mega, global corporations and the state.

Thanks to the inaction of millions of Americans, the response to Covid irreversibly damaged our country. Yes, people lost their livelihoods, and it stunted the education of an entire generation of children, with hundreds of thousands to this day still reportedly missing from school systems across the country. However, it also set an alarming precedent that in America we willingly give up essential liberty anytime federal bureaucrats claim we are facing a public “emergency.”

Even worse is the example Covid set for younger generations. Perhaps nowhere in America was Covid more authoritarian than on college campuses, where young people were taught that mental submission, creepy surveillance, and Covid violation reporting systems were essential, virtuous, and even normal.

The ramifications of the Covid response will be felt for decades. If we learned anything from the WEF’s “Great Reset,” it’s that Covid is no one-off. Now that our leaders have watched the majority of the population relinquish their liberties for a virus comparable for many in the general population to the seasonal flu, they’re going to whip out the Covid playbook anytime they want to scare the populace into compliance.

That’s where those who were sheep during Covid come in. Thousands of Americans were severely punished for bravely resisting the Covid psyop because millions more followed the edicts and perpetuated fear despite knowing better.

When the next Covid comes along, those who were either gullible or cowards need to learn from their mistakes and stand up against tyranny. That’s the least they can do.

Razey
Razey
July 16, 2023 11:07 am

or two or three who know how to manipulate ticks

It’s simple. If one has a paid VPN service, one usually has access to hundreds of VPNs around the world.

Each change of VPN server gives one another uptick, if one desires.

There. Now you know.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 16, 2023 11:11 am

Bringing up an old issue just because. Now here is a news video interesting for conspiracy aficionados. Start watching at the 1:02 mark.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/firefighters-extinguish-blaze-in-scrap-metal-yard-in-sydneys-southwest/video/3712bde2232268a006e37cc0229a9ea4

Glowing orange hot metal, which can be seen *dripping* globs off one lifted chunk, even described as “molten metal” by the narrator, and all from a conventional semi-enclosed fire on old car parts. One witness reported an explosion, but nobody has said the yard contained explosives. Not a single explosive involved.
Molten metal without using explosives.
I’m sure there’s a lesson in that for all of us.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 11:13 am

Runs a large hedge fund, FWIW.

Bill Ackman
@BillAckman
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I predict that @VivekGRamaswamy
will surpass @Mike_Pence
and rapidly approach @GovRonDeSantis
in the polls after next month’s debate. I expect he will continue to make rapid progress and will eventually challenge @realDonaldTrump
. I think he has reached the tipping point.
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Bill Ackman
@BillAckman
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I am going to make a bold and early call. @VivekGRamaswamy will run for POTUS and win. I think the country is ready for his message. He is young, smart, talented and will attract the center to the right to win. He speaks hard truths which many believe but fear to say. twitter.com/VivekGRamaswam…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2023 11:13 am

Why Vaccines are Treated Differently from Other Products

How does a car, home electrical appliance, or computer manufacturer typically assure the safety of its products?

Well, they typically engage in some form of self-regulation. Companies competing with each other are interested in the success of their products and want to make as much money as they can. If a company finds itself risking a loss of revenue as a result of a manufacturing error or lack of safety, it typically corrects or refrains from actions that are responsible for the loss of profits.

However, this may not be the case if profitable conduct contains no liability. Should this be the case, the easy route to attaining greater profitability will be taken.

Indeed, such is the case in the world of vaccines, which proves to be the world’s exception to the rule.

Attorney Aaron Siri of the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) who has worked a great deal on vaccine-related issues like vaccine injury claims, vaccine exemptions and vaccine policy work, gave testimony to the Arizona State Senate on May 25th.

His impressive two-hour presentation sought to answer the question: How can this system that people rely on fail us so badly?

But to understand the failure is to understand the context within which the new vaccines arose. We need to understand what happened 37 years ago.

In 1986, Congress passed the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (HR5546).

This is an historic act because it removed liability for childhood injury vaccines.

Removing liability tends to alter the behavior of entities that benefit. Indeed, it turned out that pharmaceutical companies were no longer liable for injuries caused by their products.

That has been the law since 1986.

Attorney Siri says that he knows of no other product that has that kind of immunity.

Not planes nor drugs. But since 1986, big pharma has not had any market force check of any significance. “Think of all the products out there that warrant safety precautions, and the one you give immunity to is the one you give to babies. Think about that.”

It turned out that in the years leading up to Congress’ 1986 Act, the amount of liability that pharmaceutical companies were facing from injuries far exceeded the revenue that those products accumulated.

Manufacturers went bust or withdrew from the market. You would think that the typical and responsible action would be to simply make a safer product for any remaining pharmaceutical company. That’s how market forces work.

However, Congress decided that they did not have to make a safer product.

Instead, they could continue to sell harmful products and would be granted immunity to boot, thereby evading a lawsuit from anyone. Equally as awful, they made this law for any vaccine made for children from that day forward.

Subsequent to Congress’ ruling, drug companies now lacked the incentive to understand the safety profile for their vaccines before they were licensed.

When it comes to other medical drugs, drug companies are very interested in knowing the safety profile because they are not immune in these cases.

In the event of injury, they may very well have to pay for damages. But with vaccine clinical trials, there is no concern. Since the Vaccine Injury Act, Congress created the economic basis for this attitude. Pharmaceutical companies can make their money while taking the path of least resistance. And that path corresponded with the loosening of practices connected to clinical trials.

Johnny Rotten
July 16, 2023 11:13 am

Military justice is to justice what military music is to music.

– Groucho Marx

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 11:16 am

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jul 16, 2023 10:34 AM

Fast driving, hand-eye coordination, etc.
What would flyingduk know about any of this anyway? What depth of experience & intense involvement could he possibly have that would match a few sunday-morning-in-pyjamas-with-a-cup-of-cocoa throwaway lines about waterproofing … er.. driving & hand/eye coordination?

Oh yeah, and what would you know about it, dickface. FFS STFU and stop trying to act all Mr. Security. You operate a run down shithole in the middle of nowhere and likely busted. Go clean the pool.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 11:20 am

Whilst we all have anecdotes along the above lines, ask yourself which race consistently excells at table tennis, a sport that very much requires hand eye co-ordination?

It’s not so much hand-eye in the argument I made. It has much more to do with spatial awareness and the interpretation.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 11:24 am

Also Duk

Here’s a question for you to your own question about asking myself which race excels at table tennis.

Simply because it may be a popular game in China, or was, how would you know they excel at table tennis? Playing the game by lots of Chinese doesn’t mean their propensity to excel is more so than other racial groups.
What evidence do you have?

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 11:31 am

You have to hand it to Musk, the guy is absolutely brilliant. They only come around a few times in a generation and you need 8 billion people to make one of him. Two weeks ago he was counted out because “Zuck the Suck” decided to go and play on Twitter’s turf. What happened now?

Threads use is on the skids and Musk made a checkmate play. Folks now get paid for trolling comments.

Andrew Wilkinson
@awilkinson
What @elonmusk
just did with Twitter ads is brilliant.

He just made every major creator on the platform a financial beneficiary.

When Twitter sells ads, the community gets a slice.

Alignment of incentives.

Same thing with paid subscriptions.

When creators get paid, Twitter gets paid.

Win/win.

Sure, both of these features are slapdash, but if they make Twitter users wealthy, they will hold their users and incentivize even more activity on the platform.

For example: I’ve always viewed Twitter as a lark.

Something I do to share random thoughts and ideas and connect with people, but certainly not a revenue stream.

But, as of now, I get paid $155,000 per year via my Twitter paid subscribers PLUS a cut of the ad revenue.

That’s for tweeting while I sit on the toilet or wait at the dentist a few times a week.

Now, I could move to Threads, but lets say I have 235,000 followers here and 2,000 followers on Theads.

Sure, I can build to 235,000 on Threads, but it’s going to take me forever.

Or I can stay on Twitter and make $200k-$1M+ just for tweeting.

Really smart.

Maybe he’ll make that $44 BILLION back after all.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2023 11:32 am

Those who were Covid cowards need to stand up against tyranny in the future. It’s the least they can do.

How not to get allies.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
July 16, 2023 11:39 am

A Country in Decline

Almost half of millennials think misgendering a transgender person should be a CRIMINAL offense, new survey finds

. A higher proportion of millennials believe referring to a transgender person using incorrect pronouns should be considered a criminal offense
. Among those aged 25-34, 44 percent support the idea of misgendering being a criminal offense, while only 31 percent disagree
. The issue of transgender rights and its implications on women’s rights has become a contentious political topic across the United States

bons
bons
July 16, 2023 11:43 am

SBS extreme left partner Vice is now owned by Soros.
How’s that? The Australian people are funding an outlet for Soros fascism.
SBS has always been more dangerous, insidious and treasonous than ABC who are just blunt instruments compared to SBS.
SBS disguise their race based fascism behind soccer and French girls taking their cloths off, but they are true globalist anti-democratic shills.
Integrating NITV with this mob was a natural fit. They already had the anti-Australian propaganda techniques in place.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 11:45 am

I went to High School with a bloke that won the Australian Table Tennis Championship when he was 15.
Yeah, he didn’t have much Chimese ancestry, just enough to be the best Table Tennis player in Australia.
I thinki he may have won it again, about 15 years later.

Makka
Makka
July 16, 2023 11:51 am

Whilst we all have anecdotes along the above lines, ask yourself which race consistently excells at table tennis, a sport that very much requires hand eye co-ordination?

From what I see on the roads, it’s nothing much to do with coordination but much more to do with attitude. Indian truck drivers (yes Indian) and Chinese motorists have a tendency to show terrible courtesy and road manners.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 11:51 am

Just get a load at their ABC’s attempt at putting on a comedy show. They can’t do original and so the essentially remake a new version of Mother and Son. There’s one slight change. The son’s black.

ABC remake of Mother and Son is fun, but do we really need a return to predictable comedy?
We know nostalgia works, but is it really what we need as we head into an uncertain future of artificial intelligence and humanoids, global tensions and gender wars?

Or, to be more specific, do we real­ly need a remake of ABC television classic Mother and Son, albeit updated for a more diversity-conscious Australia?

The resemblance is astonishing.

How could they get two actors – one is black and the other white to look like a DNA match. Incredible casting talents.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
July 16, 2023 12:00 pm

essentially remake a new version of Mother and Son. There’s one slight change. The son’s black

Awaiting the Monty Python, Benny Hill and Kingswood Country remakes with breathless anticipation.

They’ll be belters.

Jorge
Jorge
July 16, 2023 12:01 pm

Couldn’t the white chick go blackface ? Pretty poor effort from her.

miltonf
miltonf
July 16, 2023 12:04 pm

Why do we need remakes? Other than providing evidence that the meja/entertainment complex have run out of ideas.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 12:05 pm

Jorge
Jul 16, 2023 12:01 PM

Couldn’t the white chick go blackface ? Pretty poor effort from her.

Imagine – an ABC parody of itself. That would have some comedy legs.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 12:05 pm

Kingswood Country ripped off All In The Family, which ripped off Til Death Us Do Part.

The difference was, Kingswppd Country was funny.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 12:05 pm

From what I see on the roads, it’s nothing much to do with coordination but much more to do with attitude. Indian truck drivers (yes Indian) and Chinese motorists have a tendency to show terrible courtesy and road manners.

Neither Indian truck drivers nor Chinese motorists in my area.
What we do get is lots & lots & lots & lots of caravans, towed predominantly by elderly folk, exhibiting number plates from the two most south-eastern states.

Terrible courtesy and road manners is only the beginning of their dangerous habits.
This proves white folks are hopeless drivers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2023 12:07 pm

Alarming new ‘industry’ targets veterans’ for a cut of their compo

Vulnerable Aussie military veterans are being preyed upon by “agents” in exchange for a cut of their compo.

From the Hun. Bastards.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2023 12:10 pm

Maybe he’ll make that $44 BILLION back after all.

You’re right, JC. Musk is very clever, but only part of that is high intelligence. He’s also an outsider who has not been captured by the fashionable political groupthink that is dumbing down the rest of corporate America.

What Musk is doing at Twitter reminds me of the very simple and brilliant commercial idea that journalist/entrepreneur Craig Huchison has used to build a national Australian sports radio network, SEN: country radio stations in Australia can’t afford to buy quality programs so Hutchison created the programming in his company, Croc Media, and onsold the content to country radio stations for zero cash upfront, but in return for the revenue from advertising attached to the content.

And, after reverse-engineering a takeover of the SEN network, Hutchison’s SEN has been buying up unused commercial radio frequencies in Australia and NZ and: voila! A (very profitable) Australasian sports radio network with stations in every major city, created virtually overnight, with major radio sports rights contracts for cricket, AFL and NRL.

Makka
Makka
July 16, 2023 12:13 pm

This proves white folks are hopeless drivers.

Caravan drivers of a certain vintage perhaps. What isn’t in dispute is the shit roads and shoulders in regional Qld which make caravan towing a rather dangerous mission.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 12:13 pm

I’d like to add my bit on Liz Storer.
I like watching and listening to her. I can picture her drinking most blokes under the table and arm wrestling the rest. All while still looking hot.
She is actually a real surprise on the box. Long may she give the boofs a pasting.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 12:15 pm

This proves white folks are hopeless drivers.

No, it doesn’t in the least and once more demonstrates your analytical abilities, which are exactly what one would anticipate from Capt. Kebab.

In your anecdote, you restricted the population’s distribution, and we all know that as people age, they become slower. Your anecdote is worthless, you nincompoop, driller.

Let’s go back to your passionate defense of Duk’s remark. You made the rooky but understandable mistake of defending a voice of authority, which is not surprising coming from a slob.

What is it with you always trying to play security for people out of the military? It’s a very faggot-like affliction.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
July 16, 2023 12:19 pm

Good Lord.

Has there ever been a more cringeworthy radio show than “Macca on a Sunday Morning”?

Foreigners exposed to this tripe would be firmly convinced that all Australians are semi literate morons.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 12:20 pm

Caravan drivers of a certain vintage perhaps.

Naturally 😉

What isn’t in dispute is the shit roads and shoulders in regional Qld which make caravan towing a rather dangerous mission.

This applies usually on sealed roads only.
Has little impact on lack of traffic awareness in town, on clear roads, at obstacles, etc.

Qld is hampered (in part) by being mostly quality soil & thus quite difficult to build a road bed upon.
Unlike the states to the west & south, where excellent road building countryside abounds.

cohenite
July 16, 2023 12:20 pm

I’d like to add my bit on Liz Storer.

Yep; if she and Jacinta and Daisy Cousens weren’t all married, and I wasn’t, I’d be knocking on their door:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz5mI6tqm_Q

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 12:22 pm

Has there ever been a more cringeworthy radio show than “Macca on a Sunday Morning”?

Haven’t listened in 30 years, used to love the wharfie who’d phone in with waterfront yarns that were among the best you’d hear on the show.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 12:23 pm

Qld is hampered (in part) by being mostly quality soil & thus quite difficult to build a road bed upon.
Unlike the states to the west & south, where excellent road building countryside abounds.

Back before he had a halal kebob stand, Capt. Kebob was the chief of civil engineering in the QLD government overseeing all road construction in the state. If he doesn’t know, who would?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 12:25 pm

Makka, you’d benefit from visiting the NT, SA, western NSW & West Oz, where all caravanners suddenly become good drivers, once they’re away from Qld’s “indisputably bad” shoulders, potholes, etc. 😉

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 12:25 pm

Cohenite,
you lost me with Daisy Cousens.
She carries a real Marieke Hardy, little girl vibe. And the voice is like crushing aluminium cans. The other two, 100%

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 12:27 pm

Hi Sal. 😀

Makka
Makka
July 16, 2023 12:28 pm

Sal,
Mrs M is a born and bred (FN) Qlder god bless her cotton socks and therefore has been conditioned from birth to not trust and frequently denigrate the horrendous driving capabilities of anyone emanating from Mexico or further south. Especially those hauling caravans. So your comments are not surprising.

Back in the 60’s , a Vic or NSW number plate coming up her street was cause for Mums and Dads to quickly call their kids back into their own yards, such was the perceived trauma of these unannounced visits from the beyond.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 12:30 pm

The new revised 10 Commandments.

I really, really like this dude. The one advantage, if he makes it to the White House is, that he won’t be doing any driving. 🙂

Vivek Ramaswamy
@VivekGRamaswamy
TRUTH.

1. God is real.
2. There are two genders.
3. Human flourishing requires fossil fuels.
4. Reverse racism is racism.
5. An open border is no border.
6. Parents determine the education of their children.
7. The nuclear family is the greatest form of governance known to mankind.
8. Capitalism lifts people up from poverty.
9. There are three branches of the U.S. government, not four.
10. The U.S. Constitution is the strongest guarantor of freedoms in history.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 12:31 pm

Scientists have discovered a new Black Hole.
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Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 12:33 pm

bespoke
Jul 16, 2023 11:32 AM
Those who were Covid cowards need to stand up against tyranny in the future. It’s the least they can do.

How not to get allies.

Sometimes lessons are not easy to learn, especially those as the saying goes in relation to history. So, if we don’t acknowledge that tyranny was before us and didn’t want to let any of us go, that lesson will probably tend the same way.

There are still on the books in the state parliaments pandemic laws that could quickly and completely take away our rights as citizens, perhaps permanently if the need arose – see the climate change crisis claims.

We all need to be vigilant now. If we acquiesce a second time, there will be no going back. The forgettery is not an option.

To that, on the Outsiders this morning there was an interview with a woman who promised her mother, on her death bed, that she would write the story of her hero grandfather who fought against the communists in Lithuania.

However, once she started investigating her grandfather’s activities in that country during the war, she discovered that he actually was a Nazi who controlled a province? – a governor – and had been responsible for the murder of thousands of Lithuanian Jews, and that the Gentile Lithuanian population was complicit in these murders. The author stated that none of this has been known in Lithuania. The country, it seems, had simply forgotten the numbers of Jews murdered, because the people themselves were involved, and they didn’t want to acknowledge their part – and to be reminded of their actions.

I’m not suggesting in any way that the response to covid from individuals here or anywhere is like what seems to had happened during the war in Lithuania, by Lithuanians. I’m saying simply that we may wish to forget, or gild the lily in some way, but we can’t go back in time. Things were done to us all. We can not let the state, or those who would ignore this travesty in all of its manifestations, get away with it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 12:36 pm

JC, has he got any runs on the board? Or could he end up playing lip service to those genuinely great assertions, once the donors get into him.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 12:36 pm

Well, Trump has promised to take Indian [chain] migration to the U.S. to the Moon if he gets elected again, so this StrreetShitter couldn’t be any worse.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2023 12:39 pm

Are the Opposition in Queensland making law and order a central pillar of their campaign? Courier Mail:

Noosa residents have described how unsafe they now feel in their famed hometown, following two alleged violent attacks in a month on the glitter strip that attracts A-listers and thousands of tourists a year.

It comes after a 25-year-old man was alleged stabbed by a teenager on Hastings St in the early hours of Sunday morning, just a month after grandfather was allegedly murdered during his morning walk at the same spot.

Police allege the man had been in a verbal argument with the 15-year-old which escalated when the teen returned with a bottle and knife and stabbed him in the back and wrist.

Bystanders restrained the teen until police arrived and he’s since been charged with assault occasioning bodily harm while his alleged victim remains in hospital.

Noosa’s main street was bustling with residents and holiday-makers drinking coffee and eating breakfast on Sunday morning, with some unaware of the incident that had occurred only hours earlier.

Local Lesley Law, a retiree in her 60s, moved from Sydney about a year ago and said she felt safer in the bigger metropolitan city than on the Noosa region streets.

Her family had gone to the cinema last night in Noosa Junction and noticed a group of “youths” there after they finished watching the movie.

“We came out and it was very almost a threatening environment for us,” she said.

“We’re discouraged by the lack of police presence in Noosa.”

Even in the “big tourist areas” of the NSW capital, Ms Law had never felt unsafe walking around.

The resident, who has also lived in London, said she would not go out at night in Noosa and had also changed her walking habits since the death of 87-year-old John Kerr last month.

The grandfather suffered deadly injures on his morning walk at Noosa Heads and Gympie man Ryo Jay Anan, 27, has been charged with his murder.

He will next appear in the Brisbane Magistrate Court on July 24.

Ms Law now walks at Sunshine Beach instead, where she said there was more people in the early morning.

Fellow resident Alec Watson, who has lived in Noosa for nearly three years after relocating from Brisbane, said there needed to be tougher laws.

“It’s disturbing, to think that at a place like this it would happen,” he said.

“But we are noticing living here there are more and more kids wandering around — I’m not saying it’s always kids.”

He said the only solution for the situation was to be “harsher” with people.

Tourists in the street on Sunday morning told this publication they too felt unable to relax or let their teenagers go out at night.

Adelaide’s Jo Scholz had travelled with a group including five teenagers.

She was anxious about being “out on the streets past a certain time” and “vigilant” about where the teens went.

“It’s made it a bit more of a higher alert, a little bit more of an anxious holiday,” she said.

“It makes you more aware, and doesn’t make you relax as much.”

A Queensland Ambulance Service spokeswoman said the 25-year-old man was transported in a serious condition to the Sunshine Coast University Hospital.

The investigation into the latest incident continues and anyone with information should contact police via Policelink or Crime Stoppers.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 12:40 pm

Swimmer

He has a net worth between 600 to 1 bill. I think, made in tech.

In 2023, Ramaswamy’s campaign advisor said his net worth was more than $1 billion; Forbes estimated it at $630 million.

He’s a political novice.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 12:43 pm

cohenite, I’m in agreement with Pogria on Daisy. I put it down to the development of a look to get noticed on TV & youtube, together with her obvious training in drama. Very cringeworthy. Though, on one note, I see she seems now to be fledging out of her overly grandiose hairdos. That’s a good move, imho.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2023 12:44 pm

When is he going to be locked up for crimes against humanity? I’m starting to wonder whether even Hitler could match him for evil doing.

Government Documents prove Bill Gates is Primary Funder of UK Medicine Regulator despite owning huge shares in Pfizer

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 12:45 pm

Correct that, Swimmer.

He made his money in pharma.

areff
areff
July 16, 2023 12:46 pm

Has there ever been a more cringeworthy radio show than “Macca on a Sunday Morning”?

He’s the only thing on the ABC worth listening to. This morning’s presentation even featured a patriotic song, which must drive the national broadcaster’s inbreds to distraction.

Long live Macca!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 12:47 pm

Black Ball Jul 16, 2023 12:39 PM
Are the Opposition in Queensland making law and order a central pillar of their campaign?

If (and it is one helluva big IF) they do, it’s long overdue.
Almost certainly will be about 1/100 as strong as they need to be.

Qld is for the taking, for any party that credibly presents as able to fix the health system & halt ‘juvenile’ crime.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2023 12:48 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 16, 2023 12:48 pm

Are the Opposition in Queensland making law and order a central pillar of their campaign?

Yes but not vigorously enough. Not a fan of three strikes and your out laws as they could be misused but to curtail judicial inertia I think we are at the juncture.

Unfortunately a harsh crackdown is needed to right years of hand petting that has got us to this point.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2023 12:52 pm

You, taxpayer, come hither. And bring your wallet.

David Thompson shines a light on London’s struggling artists. As italicised, the answer is always OPM

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 12:53 pm

At a public forum last week the local LNP sitting member was taking “open questions” from the floor about what we may want in a government.

A few dorothy dixers about highbrow stuff.
So Salvatore threw in a lowbrow question: “I’m tired of being burgled three nights in a row by the same under-18yo, if elected would your party be able to stop this?”

A few murmurs from the room, clearly I wasn’t the only one tired of ‘catch-and-release‘ and ‘you-can’t-arrest-your-way-out-of-crime

The sitting LNP member gave me a piercing look that said “When we’re back in, you’re on the list for some intense compliance inspections” then gave to the room (not to me) a slimy stock answer the greasily rolled off the tongue.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 12:53 pm

On Makka on a Sunday. That show, like Back Roads and the Anzac Day commemorations, are all designed by the ABC to try to re-balance its woke, anti liberal, left wing agenda. To make them look reasonably presentable to the rest of us, and presentable enough to continue our funding of them.

“Here we are, we are just like mainstream Australia. See ole Makka, painfully discussing for the umpteenth time, the wheat season/lambing/baking damper/singing goofy songs.

And here is darling Heather out there on the back roads of OZ slumming around seeking out the little people who inhabit and toil in the backblocks.

And here’s our big moment of Aussie culture as the voice of OZ – giving it up for the diggers, even to the extent of flying over half of our talking heads to speak to you all from Gallipoli and the Western Front (and then have a holiday on the taxpayer’s dime).”

What we’re seeing is performance art.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 12:54 pm

… the death of 87-year-old John Kerr last month.

The grandfather suffered deadly injures on his morning walk at Noosa Heads and Gympie man Ryo Jay Anan, 27, …

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12217753/Footage-released-elderly-man-killed-morning-walk-Noosa-Heads-Queensland.html
Footage released after elderly man was killed on his morning walk …
… Meanwhile, Ryo Jay Anan – who was not known to Mr Kerr – was arrested after he was found naked 100m away on the Noosa beachfront.

Sudanese.

flyingduk
flyingduk
July 16, 2023 1:00 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 16, 2023 1:07 pm

Oh I will add, CCTV in my street caught the turds scoping out a mates car up the road before moving on. They tried getting into the house across the road, 2nd time occurring in under 12 months. Then finally got into a place a street over. There’s talk of starting a roving neighbourhood watch on Facebook apparently.

Saw a teenager scoping the suburb out today. They are getting more brazen and two out of the three ALP members are in trouble poll number wise in the city finally.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 1:09 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Jul 16, 2023 10:46 AM

I suggest a poll to determine the level of support (or not) for upticks.

The poll should be measured by upticks.

Well, that all sounds fine and dandy.
However what if I am morally opposed to ticking, want to live on a tick-free blog, but the poll question is “Tick below if you want to get rid of ticking”.
How do I get through that Catch-22 conundrum?

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 1:09 pm

Duk..I nicely explained to you before that just because Chinese are at the top of the league for table tennis , it means nothing if you haven’t allowed for things like the fact that the Chinese represent 15% of the world population. The game appears to be extremely popular there while much less so in the western world. Those stats mean nothing if you don’t allow/adjust for this part of the equation. Please try harder as I think you can do it.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 1:11 pm

Ping Pong Tables were fairly common underneath high blocked houses in Qld 60 years ago.
I’d say Aborigines would be good at Table Tennis, except for:
#1. There’s no money in it as a Sport
#2. Someone’s gotta by the Table and bats
#3. Funding to buy the ping pong ball

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 1:14 pm

Eddesly, I own a table and bats , all sitting in the garage. It hasn’t been unfolded for 20 years!

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 16, 2023 1:16 pm

#Ukraine has stuff in the pipeline the Russians will never see coming.

A slightly different take is that the defence contractors are beta testing hardware & systems in Ukraine.
If it kind of works, they’ll claim success and mark up the price (like Patriot missiles after one of the Iraq wars).
If it doesn’t, no harm done as far as the Washington dinner party set is concerned.

feelthebern
feelthebern
July 16, 2023 1:18 pm

Looks like the ABC has an ad for Tasmania pretending to be a drama on tonight.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2023 1:19 pm

This clip of an interview with David Martin is effectively three and a half minutes long (the rest is infomercial) and it is utterly brilliant.

I seriously think he has one of the best minds for unpicking the chains that bind because he focusses entirely on facts. I know we live in a corrupt and false reality but making people aware of the actual situation is a big part of the solution.

The Power of Attention: How to Do Less and Get More Done – David Martin

Johnny Rotten
July 16, 2023 1:22 pm

#2. Someone’s gotta by the Table and bats

Another typo by Head Case (by for buy) who is the Head typo.

This quote applies to Head Case –

“Roses are red, violets are blue, I’m schizophrenic, and so am I.”

– Oscar Levant

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2023 1:23 pm

So, if we don’t acknowledge that tyranny was before us and didn’t want to let any of us go, that lesson will probably tend the same way.

Well said BBS.

It doesn’t excuse sovereign citizen types high jacking the movement .though. They harassed staff on lunch breaks sent threatening quasi legal emails at my sons work. As a result it subdued discussion on the ethical use of coercion.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 1:23 pm

Question about Chinese Table Tennis champs.

Are they the Han, or the Cantonese?
Because the Han seem pretty useless and uncoordinated, but the Cantonese, who made up 99% of Australia’s Chinese Population before 1977, are fairly normal.

Razey
Razey
July 16, 2023 1:24 pm

#Ukraine has stuff in the pipeline the Russians will never see coming.

And the Chinese & Russians aren’t developing anything, no sir!

Face it, the perverted faggot loving ‘West’ is a dumpster fire that no-one is really interested in putting out. Let it burn I say.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 1:25 pm

If petrol-head pastimes aren’t a popular sport in suburban & regional Asia, is it fair to say that whiteys are better at motorsports, driving & spatial awareness?
Or is motorsport success simply a measure of the sporting proclivities of rednecks?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 1:25 pm

Neither Indian truck drivers nor Chinese motorists in my area.
What we do get is lots & lots & lots & lots of caravans, towed predominantly by elderly folk, exhibiting number plates from the two most south-eastern states.

Terrible courtesy and road manners is only the beginning of their dangerous habits.

Translation.
“I called up Mick and Shirl on UHF 31 about a threesome.
They said no”.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 1:27 pm

JC
Why not get the TT set out, find a slope in your area who wants a game, and go from there?
They’re all smokers, so you might be able to sneak a few durries in as well?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 1:31 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican

Jul 16, 2023 12:22 PM

Has there ever been a more cringeworthy radio show than “Macca on a Sunday Morning”?

Haven’t listened in 30 years, used to love the wharfie who’d phone in with waterfront yarns that were among the best you’d hear on the show.

That was actually a barrister who completely fabricated the character and his tall tales.
Macca was decidedly miffed when he found out there was a better faux knockabout bloke out there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2023 1:31 pm

Are they the Han, or the Cantonese?
Because the Han seem pretty useless and uncoordinated, but the Cantonese, …

Turd Caser reverts to casual racism, as usual.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2023 1:31 pm

Reading Graham Freudenberg’s book “Churchill and Australia.”

“Australia seemed to bring out the worst in Churchill. Often enough to form a discernible pattern, Australia found itself on the wrong side of the very qualities….that made Churchill, as the philosopher Isiah Berlin described him “the saviour of his country, the largest human being of all time.”

“Asquith was the cleverest British Prime Minister of the twentieth century. Kitchener was hailed as the greatest British soldier since the Duke of Wellington, and Lord Fisher as the greatest British seaman since Nelson. Churchill went on to become the greatest wartime Prime Minister in British history. Between them, they produced Gallipoli.” Page 74

Interesting reading.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
July 16, 2023 1:35 pm

Dr. Naomi Wolf with a bit of self-reflection

Extra and unneeded evidence that she’s a silly old trout.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
July 16, 2023 1:38 pm

I saw a bit of a Vivek Ramaswamy speech as I allowed myself to be swept along by the currents and eddies of the YouTube recommendations that run down the rightmost edge.

I liked what he was saying and felt sorry that he was so far behind Trump and DeSantis that he might not try again.

And that would be a shame.

bons
bons
July 16, 2023 1:43 pm

I am a fan of Daisy Cousens. She is sharp and well informed and her presentation style and appearance is a finger to the establishment talking heads. You don’t have to look and sound like a miserable public servant to be a good commentator.
She has her target audience well defined. Grumpy ol farts are not her primary interest.
And, dare I say it, I also like Caleb Bond as a segment anchor.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2023 1:44 pm

He’s a political novice.

Yes, JC. Just like Donald Trump.

You can understand why entrepreneurs like Vivek Ramaswamy and Trump are attracted to politics — a broken system that is shoving it up the people it’s meant to represent.

Making a system that f***ked up work again is the ultimate entrepreneurial challenge.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 1:47 pm

Basically, Gallipoli was the bait to keep the Tsar in the War, control of the Straits being the prize.
It was never intended to be successful, Britain and France had fought the Crimean War against Russia 60 years before to deny them that objective.

Graham Freudenberg, when was he ever an historian?
A bloke of that name was Press secretsary to Whitlam years ago.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 1:48 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jul 16, 2023 1:25 PM
If petrol-head pastimes aren’t a popular sport in suburban & regional Asia, is it fair to say that whiteys are better at motorsports, driving & spatial awareness?
Or is motorsport success simply a measure of the sporting proclivities of rednecks?

Duk picked a silly game that could be easily shown to be lacking.

Then security chimes in making worse for him. Capt. Kebab has an incredible knack of wrecking people’s argument because he’s dim witted.

Let’s take cricket, baseball ( played professionally in Sth Korea) and of course golf.

India probably has 200 to 300 million people avidly interested in cricket. With those numbers, do they dominate cricket from year to year? They should.

How about Sth Korea and baseball? How many players end up in the major leagues in the US. A trickle?

Are there lots of Chinese players that dominate golf?

Johnny Rotten
July 16, 2023 1:49 pm

Composing music is hard work.

– John Williams

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 1:50 pm

And Japanese players dominating in golf allowing for population size?

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2023 1:53 pm

I am a fan of Daisy Cousens. She is sharp and well informed…

I’m not. She’s a pretentious wannabe actress who can’t stop acting.

Liz Storer, on the other hand, is very smart — which makes her very hot, IMO.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 1:53 pm

Qld is for the taking, for any party that credibly presents as able to fix the health system & halt ‘juvenile’ crime.

Crisafuli is no Campbell Newman.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 1:54 pm

bons,
I like Caleb Bond. Am very partial to his sartorial flair.
Voices are a huge turn off to me. Daisy’s voice cuts through my ears almost with pain. No matter how good someone may be, if the voice is awful, I change the channel or turn off the sound until they’re done.

cohenite
July 16, 2023 1:55 pm

I like Daisy for the following reasons:
1 She talks sense, albeit stridently
2 She favours Victorian fashion which I like
3 She’s a pretty girl, which doesn’t hurt
4 She has pissed off the feministas
5 She is obviously a very patient girl as her interviews with bolt amply show.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 1:55 pm

I left out soccer because I think there’s more of an endurance aspect than just hand eye. But even so, Asian teams are very underrepresented in the soccer World Cup finals even though they’re about 60% of the world population. (?)

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 1:57 pm

Crisafuli is no Campbell Newman.

It is not without some good reason that he’s picked up the moniker: “Christwhatafool”.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2023 1:58 pm

6. She isn’t a cut owl.

Miltonf
Miltonf
July 16, 2023 2:00 pm

I remember Macca saying white people in Australia were like vermin or words to that effect. Just another ABC turd. How old is he now,? 150?

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 2:04 pm

Sunday humour.
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Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 2:04 pm

Bespoke, we used to live in a live and let live society. We minded our own business and let others do the same. But now, bullies and harassers abound.

I can’t see it ever changing back. Especially since the state has for decades been jockeying for more and more control over us.

Modern communications have both enhanced the state’s agenda, and yet, and though not as evenly, enabled individuals to find those of similar mind. (Thank you to the Old and New Cat and all the other on-line sites that have helped us in recognising the conditions in which we live).

Iirc, in a FOI request recently, Senator Alex Antic discovered that the previous Australian Govt under Scummo, pressured social media companies on more than 4000 separate occasions during covid to take down information that it did not like.

There’s a lot to still discover about what happened, how it happened and who directed it to happen. When it comes to light it won’t be edifying.

(Sorry to hear what went on with you son and his work.)

RuthM
RuthM
July 16, 2023 2:08 pm

I quite like Daisy Cousens; first watched her on Bolt when it seemed to me, when Bolt allowed her to speak, she took a deep breath, started speaking and there was no way on God’s green Earth that she was going to be interrupted. Must have driven Bolt crazy.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 2:10 pm

Iirc, in a FOI request recently, Senator Alex Antic discovered that the previous Australian Govt under Scummo, pressured social media companies on more than 4000 separate occasions during covid to take down information that it did not like.

The party of free speech.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
July 16, 2023 2:12 pm

SATP, Chrisifulli is a shame.

On the Townsville City Council he was constantly in the news, holding Tony Mooney & Jenny Hill (ALP Mayor & councillor) to account. Did some damn good work locally.

So when he relocated to the Gold Coast I was hopeful we’d see the same mongrel but in the state parliament. Well sad to say I haven’t seen any off it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 2:14 pm

The party of free speech.

Roger, remember, “it doesn’t create a one job”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 2:15 pm

So Salvatore threw in a lowbrow question: “I’m tired of being burgled three nights in a row by the same under-18yo, if elected would your party be able to stop this?”

Is this person taking stuff, or leaving stuff behind, having mistaken your establishment for a “transfer station”?

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 2:18 pm

Insert name of choice. 😀
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I’m off to split enough wood for the next couple of days.

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 2:20 pm

woops, wrong link! Here it is.
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Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 2:21 pm

The Palaszczuk Government don’t have a visible Police presence inLNP/Green type Electorates, but they’re heavy in the Lumpenproletariat areas of Woodridge, Beenleigh and Inala.

My opinion is that they learnt a lesson from the Campbell Newman Government, which had a radar behind every tree, and more or less ceased policing Seats they might lose in a Swing.

Gilas
Gilas
July 16, 2023 2:23 pm

Sydney International Piano Competition (SIPCA) Part 4 (word-wall alert)

The Semi Finals are finally over, the six Finalists announced last night.
For those interested, videos of each session have been uploaded here.

This completes the series of Preliminary and Semi-Finals Rounds, 10 days of intense programming, 26 concerts, starting around 12MD and often finishing after 10pm.

The travelling to-and-fro the Conservatorium of Music was made more interesting by Sydney Trains’ almost daily timetable and itinerary changes, usually at the most inconvenient time ie. at night. This seems to be yet another “undocumented feature” of standard service delivery by the NSW Government, something that never seems to make it into the news.. the tacit acceptance of mediocre service delivery by the great unwashed, who must simply suck on their thumbs and pay for it.
Because of this, I left before hearing the announcement of the 6 Finalists, which have just now been posted on the Piano+ website.

But back to the Comp.
To my amazement, no elders of a paleolithic culture were ever acknowledged, nor any of us peasants ever welcomed to a mythical country, anywhere or at any time.
For this alone, the organizers must be congratulated.
I have, however, no doubt that this will change during the Finals, which will be at the Opera House.

The pianistic standard of the competitors was extremely high. Certainly higher than was the case on previous occasions.
The 32 competitors were chosen after 250 applied and auditioned in the last 18 months.
After one of the successful participants pulled out, she was replaced by a young Australian, Reuben Tsang, who was given a full one(!) week to prepare his program. He performed admirably, but it wasn’t enough because, as mentioned before, there is virtually no relationship between the audience’s and Jury’s preferences.
Comps are unfair, just deal with it!

Audience numbers increased as the Comp progressed, with an encouraging increase in the proportion of younger people and children, mostly Asian, with a few non-Anglo-Saxons. Despite this, old, and I mean OLD.. moneyed wealth and academic privilege were clearly visible, and audible, in the crowd hobnobbings during the intervals between performances.
The demographic change will be inevitable, and dramatic, in the next few years.

Asians will save Western Classical Music from its putrescent, increasingly deranged creator culture.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
July 16, 2023 2:24 pm

Have just caught up, courtesy of Hendo, with this latest piece of Green hypocrisy:

https://www.news.com.au/finance/real-estate/renting/greens-mp-mehreen-faruqi-to-bulldoze-native-trees-in-15-million-subdivision-of-port-macquarie-property/news-story/73865314816eeaccb7f270816c6e7c7d

Needless to say, the ABC and SMH have sent this story straight down the memory hole.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 2:25 pm

In the 8 years of the Palaszczuk Government, the only ticket I’ve got was speeding in Kingston Rd, though I’ve gone through Red Lights and Radars elsewhere, many times, but crickets.

Speedbox
July 16, 2023 2:26 pm

dover0beach
Jul 16, 2023 11:50 AM
Today in Expertise: Jessica Berlin @berlin_bridge
May 7
Nobody has all the details but one thing is clear: this counteroffensive will rewrite military history.
#Ukraine has stuff in the pipeline the Russians will never see coming. And much of what they do see coming, they won’t be able to stop anyway.
#SpringIsComing ??

Oh my Lord. Who is this? Has anybody asked Jessica for an update?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 2:30 pm

In the 8 years of the Palaszczuk Government, the only ticket I’ve got was speeding in Kingston Rd, though I’ve gone through Red Lights and Radars elsewhere, many times, but crickets.

Motorists getting away with speeding is the inevitable outcome of the govt neglecting to issue traffic police with special paddles to use for pulling over drivers.

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 2:32 pm

She has pissed off the feministas

Cohenite, it was some time ago. It may have been not long after she had started her gig on Bolt, she gave a free pass to Penny Pong.

Sorry, but I can’t recall the exact line of discussion, but both the other half and I were unimpressed with Daisy’s willingness to cover for one of the mean girls. And the worst of the lot at that, with her faux dagger-like smile and ascerbic retorts to anyone not on her side of politics.

Though Daisy was seemingly well informed that night, her acquiescence in defending Pong was enough for us.

Re Liz Storrer, I can’t see that ever happening with her.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 2:38 pm

Motorists getting away with speeding is the inevitable outcome of the govt neglecting to issue traffic police with special paddles to use for pulling over drivers.
No, retard.
What it means, is that the Notices aren’t being issued.

This is why we’re hearing about the supposedly “rampant Crime’, because the Cops aren’t happy with the drop in Revenue.

The point is:
Once they boot Palaszczuk and start booking people hell, west and crooked, Labor will get booted.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2023 2:38 pm
Speedbox
July 16, 2023 2:41 pm

Ed – be careful. Depending on how long the light has been red, driving through a red lights can be very dangerous.

Many years ago I was involved in an accident where a car drove through a red light on my left. He was also speeding and because of the buildings on the corner, I didn’t see him until a few milliseconds before impact and couldn’t react in time. The female front seat passenger in his car was killed. She wasn’t wearing a seatbelt.

Exercise some care and don’t tempt fate.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 2:42 pm

Asians will save Western Classical Music from its putrescent, increasingly deranged creator culture.

No, they won’t.
Asians are robotic imitators, not creative interpreters.

JC
JC
July 16, 2023 2:45 pm

Sancho Panzer
Jul 16, 2023 2:15 PM

So Salvatore threw in a lowbrow question: “I’m tired of being burgled three nights in a row by the same under-18yo, if elected would your party be able to stop this?”

Is this person taking stuff, or leaving stuff behind, having mistaken your establishment for a “transfer station”?

Oh dear, he’s going third person now too.

In any event the story sounds like bullshit and the NYC fire truck came out to warn.

Gilas
Gilas
July 16, 2023 2:49 pm

SIPCA Part 5.

As mentioned in a previous thread, the ABCess is no longer involved, probably the main reason for thr poor attendance in the early stages. No one I spoke to seemed to know why, but the speculation was the excessive cost of broadcasting and commenting on something that was actually culturally superior. Accusations of White colonialism and racism not being really pertinent.

The Friends of the Sydney International Piano Competition are the backbone of the organization and financing of this event, the Chair of its Board is a certain Bronwyn Bishop, a short person despite the wearing of high footwear, quite amiable, who circulated widely during the intervals.
She seemed popular, with no one I spoke to critical of her performance in her role.
There was also no audible mention of helicopters.

The Friends hold a number of social functions each year, mostly in NSW, but with some overseas options, including participation in the auditions for applicants to the next Comp.
They also provide the opportunity to volunteer for the “Green Room”, helping with some simple backroom tasks, regularly dealing with the competitors being one of the most desirable.
As all the Friends I spoke to seemed genuinely decent folk, membership may not be such a bad idea.

During the chamber music performances and the playing of some of the post-2000 Australian compositions, the use of music scores was allowed.
In contrast to past editions, the use of iPads and Samsung Tablets was common, the page turning was either by simple swiping, wireless pedal contraption of by a page-turning assistant.
The latter was the most distracting, a perfectly presented, modestly dressed and impeccably professional Korean piano teacher volunteer from Melbourne called Michelle. Always sitting in the same position, virtually immobile except when turning pages, quietly efficient, beautiful to look at, cloaked in black with lustrous hair. Just as I was thinking of asking about her during an intermission, she was introduced by the MOC, to great general crowd approval.
Talking to her later, modesty and politeness personified, a real gem.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2023 2:50 pm
Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 2:50 pm

Exercise some care and don’t tempt fate.
I appreciate your comment.
My situation is that I’m colorblind, so if there’s nothing stopped in front of me and nothing happening on the crossroad, i’ll sometimes drive thru the Red unintentionally.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 2:55 pm

On the ingredients of Olympic success and Duk’s assertion that Chinah’s dominance of table tennis is evidence of Chinese people having better hand-eye co-ordination.
It is true that certain racial groups seem to have a physiological advantage in particular sports (lightly framed people from East Africa dominate long distance running, whilst those whose racial origins are West African are great sprinters and power athletes).
But is there any evidence for the claim that Chinese dominate table tennis because of superior hand-eye coordination?
The first test would be to ask if they dominate other sports where hand-eye coordination is paramount, and the truth is, they don’t.
The key ingredients of Olympic success are:-
.1 A large pool of amateur participants from a relatively early age (starting the sport aged 10 or under);
.2 A talent identification programme to pick a reasonably sized cohort of high-end talent aged in their early teens (say, 200-300 kids a year);
.3 A talent development programme which provides intensive coaching until these kids reach 18-22, which churns out 4-5 players in the top 20 in the world, and gives you better than even money chances of winning medals.
I could equally say Canucks possess special super-powers in combing skating and wielding a stick, because they always win medals at ice hockey. We know that isn’t true. It’s just that they are mad on the sport and have a yuuuge pool of avid participants.
Conversely, are Ethiopians or Sudanese genetically unsuited to sailing or rowing? They never win any medals in boating events, so surely there must be a missing aquatic link in their DNA, right?
Of course not. It just isn’t part of their culture and, of course, those sports chew money and facilities, which those countries simply don’t have.
Strayans like to kid ourselves that we are a superior sporting nation, and there is something in our genetic make-up or culture which leads to us “punching above our weight”. The truth is, we just throw obscene amounts of money at developing a few medal winners.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2023 2:57 pm

Andrew Bolt:

Anthony Albanese just had his worst week as Prime Minister. Losing the Fadden by-election this weekend confirms his honeymoon is finally over, and he’s in danger.

Voters are switching off his crusades. Defeat on his Voice to Parliament seems next, and then he’ll be fighting for his government’s life.

Sure, Labor is talking up its loss in Fadden as a win. Treasurer Jim Chalmers yesterday chirruped that this Gold Coast seat – formerly held by the Liberals’ Stuart Robert – was in Liberal National Party heartland, so the result was “unsurprising, untroubling”.

No, Opposition leader Peter Dutton was the loser: “If anything, the LNP underperformed against the historical average.”

Sure, the swing against the government so far in the count, 2.4 per cent after preferences, is below the average 4 per cent swing against governments in by-elections.

But here’s a reality check.

First, the LNP margin will probably grow once postal votes are counted.

Second, the primary vote for LNP candidate Cameron Caldwell is so far tracking 4.15 per cent up on what Robert got last time.

Third, and before I get to the biggest warning sign for Labor, this Labor loss comes after the Albanese Government tried one of the nastiest stunts in our politics.

It called a $30 million royal commission into how its Liberal opponents – including Stuart Robert as the Minister – mishandled the Robodebt scandal, and had the pleasure of seeing that royal commission hand down its passionately brutal finds just a week before this by-election in Robert’s old seat.

Yeah, just a coincidence, but an ugly one.

Know also that the Liberals had already admitted years ago to a massive stuff up with Robodebt, where ministers used a dodgy computer model to demand welfare recipients pay back money they hadn’t in fact been overpaid.

What’s more, the victims had already won $112 million in compensation two years ago, and the Morrison government was then thrown out.

Yet for all Labor’s constant yammering about Robodebt, even its own candidate in Fadden, Letitia Del Fabbro, last week admitted: “It’s really the cost of living issues that people are mostly interested in.”

And here we come to the biggest red light for Labor.

Fadden just confirms what two polls last week – that nasty week for Albanese – said: that voters were not just souring on the government’s handling of the economy and prices, but going off its yabber-yabber-yabber on climate and the Voice, the kind of Aboriginal-only advisory parliament it wants put into our constitution.

One was a CT Group poll of 3000 people, which found just 13 per cent thought Albanese was doing enough to fix cost-of-living pressures and only a quarter thought he was managing the economy well. They were down on the Voice.

More damning was the bimonthly Mood of the Nation poll by SEC Newgate. It showed 61 per cent of voters now thought Australia was heading in the wrong direction, up from 51 per cent two months ago.

Worries about the cost of living rocketed from an already high 62 per cent to 69 today. Worries were highest about grocery prices – feeding the family – and electricity prices, forced up by global warming schemes.

That penny is dropping. Voters in this poll demanding action on climate change dropped to just one in three.

So how impressed would voters have been to hear Treasurer Chalmers on Sunday go from dismissing the Fadden result as no biggie to saying he’d now fly to India and chat about global warming and “the energy transformation”?

Chalmers just showed that Labor is stuck on a highway to a cliff.

It’s a nightmare. Labor is so committed to its disastrous global warming crusade that it cannot pull out even with energy company bosses now warning its targets are impossible.

Nor can Albanese now cancel this year’s referendum on his Voice, even though polls suggest it’s doomed.

That seems Labor’s next defeat and it would be huge.

Sunday’s loss already switches the focus off the Liberals’ alleged shambles and onto Labor’s struggles with the cost of living. That’s Dutton’s big win here.

If Albanese also loses the Voice referendum, voters will rightly ask: how could he have wasted two years and $364 million of taxpayers’ money on this foolishness, when many Australians struggle to pay for food and rent?

No, the Fadden result isn’t “untroubling” for Labor. It’s a switch in the nation’s mood, with Albanese now under real pressure as voters ask: Albo, where’s the money?

Pogria
Pogria
July 16, 2023 2:58 pm

Bespoke,
thank you very much for that clip. I have three indoor cats and that happens on a daily basis. LOL!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 2:59 pm

Gilas, please.
Enough with the piano stuff.
You’ll upset the banjo players here.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 3:01 pm

Conversely, are Ethiopians or Sudanese genetically unsuited to sailing or rowing? They never win any medals in boating events, so surely there must be a missing aquatic link in their DNA, right?
Of course not.

Wrong!!
Sudanese aren’t any good at Distance running because of DNA and Africans generally are hopeless in the water because of Negative Buoyancy, which is also genetic.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 3:01 pm

What the hell is “combing skating”?
I meant “ice skating”.

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2023 3:04 pm
Speedbox
July 16, 2023 3:05 pm

Ed – the red light is the one at the top of the light array If it appears illuminated, it is ‘on’ therefore you must stop.

Look, I get it. None of us are perfect drivers and at sometime in our driving lives we have all done foolish things. I’m just saying from experience, beware of traffic lights because the car coming from your left or right will likely be at full legal speed (and possibly more) and most certainly not expecting you to suddenly get in the way.

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2023 3:10 pm

Ed Case
Jul 16, 2023 2:25 PM
In the 8 years of the Palaszczuk Government, the only ticket I’ve got was speeding in Kingston Rd, though I’ve gone through Red Lights and Radars elsewhere, many times, but crickets.

I don’t think that the Queensland police operate in Peshawar.

Johnny Rotten
July 16, 2023 3:12 pm

Music is a safe kind of high.

– Jimi Hendrix

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2023 3:13 pm

Ed Case
Jul 16, 2023 2:42 PM
Asians will save Western Classical Music from its putrescent, increasingly deranged creator culture.

No, they won’t.
Asians are robotic imitators, not creative interpreters.

Again with the casual racism.

Johnny Rotten
July 16, 2023 3:14 pm

Close Encounters of the Third Kind is on Ch 76 soon at 3.35 pm this afternoon. A Top Film IMHO.

Speedbox
July 16, 2023 3:20 pm

As an aside on the accident I mentioned upthread, my enduring memory after all these years is the violence of the collision. I had a few mishaps during my time in motorsport but this accident on a public road easily topped them all. In fairness, it was probably the ‘suddenness’ of it whereas in motorsport you kinda know when you’ve pushed too far (spin out) or see the obstacle (wall, large rock, tree etc) coming.

I once ripped the front left strut, with wheel still attached, out of a car during a rally and that was loud and violent, but it still didn’t come close to what happened at that traffic light.

Johnny Rotten
July 16, 2023 3:21 pm

Africans generally are hopeless in the water because of Negative Buoyancy, which is also genetic.

That must be why so many of them get eaten by crocodiles in those rivers.

BTW Head Case, how is your positive buoyancy? Do you float through the air when you smoke that stuff?

Indolent
Indolent
July 16, 2023 3:27 pm
Makka
Makka
July 16, 2023 3:28 pm

Worries about the cost of living rocketed from an already high 62 per cent to 69 today. Worries were highest about grocery prices – feeding the family – and electricity prices, forced up by global warming schemes.

I think it was the AFR reporting some weeks back that almost 1/3 of all mortgage holders will be moving from fixed rate repayments into Variable rates over the next 6 months. Roughly 4-6 times their current monthly repayments. That’s not a wall, it’s a cliff face. The COL pain is about to get dialed up to excruciating for many thousands of families. Dutton needs to be banging on loudly about the family stress from Ruinables.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2023 3:30 pm

I’ve had the pleasure of being t-boned by a commodore on an otherwise deserted road on a Sunday morning.
I saw it coming and tried to shout a warning to dad but got out a blurt of gibberish just before it hit.
Was lucky, door pillar took most of it though it did knock me out briefly and I remember coming to while stretched out in a fit of some sort. Head went sideways into drivers side window.

Lady had been focused on following a friend and went straight through at about 60. Never even braked before hitting.

A bad intersection, lady who came out to help from house nearby said there was about a prang a month there.
Road long since redesigned now.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 3:31 pm

Look, I get it. None of us are perfect drivers and at sometime in our driving lives we have all done foolish things. I’m just saying from experience, beware of traffic lights because the car coming from your left or right will likely be at full legal speed (and possibly more) and most certainly not expecting you to suddenly get in the way.

“Knowledge tells you it is a one way street.
Wisdom guides you to look both ways before stepping off the footpath.”
– Sun Tzu

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 16, 2023 3:37 pm

JC wondered:

Asian teams are very underrepresented in the soccer World Cup finals even though they’re about 60% of the world population. (?)

The difference is cultural. Agricultural.
They can’t look at 7000 sq.m of flat land and not want to plant rice in it immediately.
The first six months of soccer training are spent teaching them not to do that.

😀

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 3:38 pm

On the ingredients of driving ability an assertion that Asia’s perceived poor driving skill is evidence of Asian people not having high level spatial awareness or interpretation.
It is true that certain racial groups seem to have a physiological advantage in particular sports (lightly framed people from East Africa dominate long distance running, whilst those whose racial origins are West African are great sprinters and power athletes).
But is there any evidence for the claim that Asians poor drivers, & thus do not take the winner’s flagfall in Formula 1 because of inferior spatial awareness?
The first test would be to ask if they engage successfully in other activity or sport where spatial awareness is required, and the truth is, they don’t.
The key ingredients of elite success are:-
.1 A large pool of participants from a relatively early age (starting the sport aged 10 or under);
.2 A cultural predilection for motor sports & driving which provides intensive skill development & role models, and gives you a boost into the lower-tier motor racing that provides feeder talent to Formula 1.
I could equally say Canucks possess special super-powers in ice skating and wielding a stick, because they always win medals at ice hockey. We know that isn’t true. It’s just that they are mad on the sport and have a yuuuge pool of avid participants.
Conversely, are Ethiopians or Sudanese genetically unsuited to sailing or rowing? They never win any medals in boating events, so surely there must be a missing aquatic link in their DNA, right?
Of course not. It just isn’t part of their culture and, of course, those sports chew money and facilities, which those countries simply don’t have.
Strayans like to kid ourselves that we are a superior sporting nation, and there is something in our genetic make-up or culture which leads to us “punching above our weight”. The truth is, obscene burning of petrol in suburban go-kart competitions, stock car & other feeder competition, just does not exist in Asian countries.
Do Asians inherently lack driving ability, or do they lack driving experience? Do they have a culture in which technical precision & excellence (eg parking & not colliding in traffic) are not valued?

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 3:40 pm

Dutton needs to be banging on loudly about the family stress from Ruinables.
Why?
You just said Mortgage repayments are going to rise 4-6 times soon.
While that sounds a stretch [double sounds more like it], Peter Dutton is already focusing on Cost of living pressures.
Talking about Renewable Energy is pointless, since the Coalition had the same Policy, except they’ll make their Policy work, while Labor couldn’t care less.

Makka
Makka
July 16, 2023 3:46 pm

Do Asians inherently lack driving ability, or do they lack driving experience?

They come from highly competitive societies where consideration for others is of minor concern. That then translates into their driving manners here. Of minor concern.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 3:49 pm

But is there any evidence for the claim that Asians poor drivers, & thus do not take the winner’s flagfall in Formula 1 because of inferior spatial awareness?

They can’t even tell their right from their left.
The smartest East Asians are good ar remembering and regurgitating facts, the rest can’t even do that.

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2023 3:53 pm

I’ve met Daisy Cousens twice. Daisy is nice and switched on but she’s no fierce warrior in the mould of Liz Storer, but I don’t think she pretends to be. Daisy now has her own slot on ADH-TV.

Daisy’s husband is Calum Thwaites, they married in 2021 after a long relationship. Calum Thwaites was one of the students from the Queensland University of Technology who was hauled before the Australian Human Rights Commission under Trigsie Poo. Thwaites was brought to the commission under Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act. Remember that travesty?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 3:53 pm

Asians obviously have better hand-eye coordination.
And here is the irrefutable evidence.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2023 3:56 pm

So how impressed would voters have been to hear Treasurer Chalmers on Sunday go from dismissing the Fadden result as no biggie to saying he’d now fly to India and chat about global warming and “the energy transformation”?

Flying to a country that doesn’t really give 2 flying fornications about climate change policy to have a gabfest on “energy transformation” is instructive. Not sending Bowen, thinking Chalmers smells a change in leadership and will throw his hat with propeller on top into the ring to challenge Albo.
It’s all very good to dismiss the Fadden result, but didn’t Labor win a by election in Victoriastan not that long ago that was in Liberal hands since time immemorial?
I get a feeling that the backroom boys are getting antsy with Albo.

Gilas
Gilas
July 16, 2023 3:59 pm

SIPCA Part 6 (Final)

One meets lots of interesting people at these uncommon events.
One of them was a retired, dual American-Oz Art Historian-Anthropologist from Uni of NSW. Lots of conversations about the various competitors, opinions on the pieces played etc..
We eventually entered the precarious grounds of politics, I was surprised that an academic, who would naturally hold stock-standard leftard opinions was, in fact, quite sensible, even pleasant.
We ended up agreeing on everything, even the music and the performances.
Wonders never cease.

Another was a Catholic priest at a Sydney inner-West Diocese. He had just returned from one of his colleagues’ funeral. A colleague who entered the Gates prematurely, despite all the vows, preying and devotion.
The still living priest actually approved of Bergoglio’s moves in the Vatican, maintaining he was trying to flush out the reactionaries in the Church (like Vigano`) and moving it into the 21st C.
Not that I agreed, but it was an interesting, unexpected perspective from someone who, in a brief-ish meeting, exuded lots of common sense and decency.
We didn’t exchange contact details but, as a sensible, easy conversationalist, he’s worth chasing up again.

Walking to one of the afternoon sessions, I had the opportunity to potentially, remotely, maybe, possibly, change the course of Australian political history, brushing past one of our favourite Liebor hench-women, just outside the NSW Parliament in Macquarie St.
The vicious, harridan’s scowl was there, in full view, just like the one she has carefully practiced and nurtured for her politically useless opponents.
It was good to see that her oft-seen compassion and niceness are mere facades reserved for the dumb masses consuming the MSM. Suspicions confirmed!
Alas, I missed my opportunity, hence why these posts can still appear.

Finally, before each session, a young Australian musician was show-cased, playing a short piece, not part of the Comp, but he/she would be assessed and receive some advice from the Jury, to help with future musical development.
Again, 90% were children or young adults of Asian extraction, some already accomplished performers at such tender ages as young as 13.
The cutest was Isabella Guo, only 10 yrs old, born in China and now attending Sydney PLC. Started playing at 4 yrs of age, reasonably average for these tiger-mum offsprings.
Her presentation was perfect and can be seen here, starting at 9 minutes.
All sessions, recorded and available on the Piano+ YT channel are revelatory when it comes to seeing the beauty of young talent, totally divorced from the pervasive, metastatic cancer of woke BS polluting social media and most of the Cats’ concerns on the blog.

There is still beauty in this World, that alone is worth celebrating!

Cassie of Sydney
July 16, 2023 4:00 pm

“I like Caleb Bond. Am very partial to his sartorial flair.”

Yes, I like Caleb too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2023 4:01 pm

Pedro the Loafer at 12:19

Has there ever been a more cringeworthy radio show than “Macca on a Sunday Morning”?

It is bad. Generally lasts about 3 minutes after the 6am news. Macca is an ALPBC star, I would guess$300k+ pa.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2023 4:02 pm

Remember that travesty?

Vividly. Asking “white ” students to leave an “indigenous only” computer room. Didn’t we used to point the big finger at South Africa for such conduct?

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 4:03 pm

Albanese now under real pressure as voters ask: Albo, where’s the money?

“Erm… Jimbo said the coffers are empty unless you’re an aborigine.

So please vote for the Voice.”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2023 4:05 pm

Nie vir Europeërs nie, net vir swart studente…………

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
July 16, 2023 4:09 pm

preying and devotion.
Steady on there Gilas

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 4:10 pm

Remember that travesty?

Presumably Caleb Bond is another who recalls it quite vividly.

areff
areff
July 16, 2023 4:14 pm

What are the Sunday morning alternatives to Macca? Hmmm. Sponsored ‘health show’ on 3AW? RN’s inevitable audio exercise in the latest agonies endured by trans/gays/ albino dwarves/ people who identify as coal scuttles/Wounded Mother Earth/hand-gluers/ soup chuckers/ Indigenes denied their civilisation’s (yep, that’s what the ABC calls i t) traditional right to eat unwanted children.

So Macca wins by default even if you don’t like him — and I still do. .

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
July 16, 2023 4:16 pm

Roger Cook lashes critics of new heritage laws, says ‘irrelevant’ Opposition should ‘butt out’ of the debate
Josh Zimmerman
The West Australian
Sun, 16 July 2023 1:55PM

The Liberal and National parties are “irrelevant” and should “butt out” of debate over new Aboriginal heritage laws, according to Premier Roger Cook.

The blistering broadside came after Opposition Leader Shane Love on Saturday vowed to scrap and rewrite the updated Act if there is a change of government following the 2025 election – a position also adopted by the Liberals.

With the Opposition seeking to position the contentious new regime as a key election issue – especially for country voters – Mr Cook hit back on Sunday.

“They’re essentially clutching at straws,” he said.

“They are desperate and desperately clinging to any issue they can find to give them relevance.

“Everyone knows that they are irrelevant and everyone knows that they voted for this legislation in the first place.”

Mr Cook highlighted both the Liberals and Nationals had for weeks claimed to support the “intent” of the new laws while lobbying only for the July 1 implementation date to be delayed six months to allow stakeholders more time to get across the details.

“Now they’re saying they don’t like the laws at all,” Mr Cook said.

“They’re simply drifting and saying anything that comes to mind.

“They don’t have a single policy or constructive contribution to make to this debate. And really, they should just butt out.”

The Cook Government has been heavily criticised for its rollout of the new regime, specifically long delays in publishing the regulations and guidelines that explain the level of consultation required with Aboriginal knowledge holders before embarking on major ground disturbing activities.

With those details now public, the Opposition has labelled the new laws fundamentally flawed and vowed to go back to the drawing board.

Mr Love has said his primary concern with the Act is that claims of cultural significance from an Aboriginal group were not contestable with an independent third party.

“There isn’t a clear separation of powers or duties between the knowledge holder and an adjudicator – that is a blurring of lines that needs to be rectified,” he said.

Mr Cook said the Opposition needed to explain why it had voted in favour of the Act – which was rushed through Parliament in a matter of days in late 2021 – if it was now opposed to the laws.

“I’m not quite sure why they’re now deciding to revisit those issues,” the Premier said.

Lee
Lee
July 16, 2023 4:22 pm

Talking about Renewable Energy is pointless, since the Coalition had the same Policy, except they’ll make their Policy work, while Labor couldn’t care less.

I don’t want renewable energy (unfeasible in every way, and an ultimately doomed policy) from the Libs or anyone else.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2023 4:23 pm

I’d be betting on my Viet brother in law threading the needle driving 3+ hrs to home yesterday against Ed- mongs rally car skills.

“ don’t know left from right” what a maroon as bugs would say.

Seen any whiiite suuubs lately?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 4:24 pm

What are the Sunday morning alternatives to Macca? Hmmm. Sponsored ‘health show’ on 3AW? RN’s inevitable audio exercise in the latest agonies endured by trans/gays/ albino dwarves/ people who identify as coal scuttles/Wounded Mother Earth/hand-gluers/ soup chuckers/ Indigenes denied their civilisation’s (yep, that’s what the ABC calls i t) traditional right to eat unwanted children.

The other alternative is to get shit-faced every Saturday night and sleep through all of it.
It is not an “either/or” situation, like chicken or beef at a wedding. Some people do the same on weekday mornings … Karl or Kochie (or whoever it is now).
You can always embrace the power of the Off button.

Frank
Frank
July 16, 2023 4:25 pm

What the hell is “combing skating”?
I meant “ice skating”.

I thought you meant curling. They’re good at that too.

bespoke
bespoke
July 16, 2023 4:25 pm

Priority seating for the top knob-polishers, ballcuppers, election-deniers and echo-chamber tuners. The rest of you schlubs enjoy the broiling hot garage. #ACTCON2023

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 4:27 pm

…thinking Chalmers smells a change in leadership and will throw his hat with propeller on top into the ring to challenge Albo.

The difficulty for Chalmers would be that he is of the QLD Right faction & the Socialist Left is in ascendancy in the ALP both in the membership and the parliamentary caucus (and possibly soon to be in the majority on the National Executive and therefore in charge of preselections).

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 4:36 pm

Frank

Jul 16, 2023 4:25 PM

What the hell is “combing skating”?
I meant “ice skating”.

I thought you meant curling. They’re good at that too.

Yes, another sport that the Kenyans aren’t great at, and I can’t fathom why.
That is why the premise behind “Cool Runnings” was somewhat amusing.
A Disney movie which, incidentally, took $150 meg at the box office and cost 1/10 of that to make.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 4:40 pm

I’d be betting on my Viet brother in law threading the needle driving 3+…

I said East Asians, dumbarse.
If i’d meant Jungle Asians, I woulda said so.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
July 16, 2023 4:47 pm

The difficulty for Chalmers would be that he is of the QLD Right faction & the Socialist Left is in ascendancy in the ALP…

Quite correct.
Quite apart from his now-faded Boy Wonder credentials, there is a negligible chance of Chalmers securing 75% of Caucus, rissoleing Albanese and climbing over the political corpse of Plibersek.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2023 4:48 pm

Things are pretty sad when the red light ignoring turbomong has to be more specific in its racist trope to defend it.
https://www.wrc.com/en/championship/teams-and-drivers/wrc/drivers/takamoto-katsuta/

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2023 4:52 pm

Gilas, please.
Enough with the piano stuff.

Gilas, don’t listen to the kiddies in the cheap seats. I love that you have chosen the Cat for a recital on piano recitals.

Not my thing, but I was a passionate enterer of solo competitions as a brass bandsman in my early teens and remember the experience fondly. I always wanted to play piano, but I was too lazy.

So I briefly became a rock musician en route to my exploration of world as a journalist — before most journalists were brainwashed by the university system.

I still love music, but have come to loathe the misuse of journalism by activists who loathe the public and see themselves as kingmakers.

Piano recitals aweigh!

Boambee John
Boambee John
July 16, 2023 4:54 pm

Turd Case

Try to ease back on the now overt racism.

PS, Vietnam is on the eastern side of Asia. If you meant Chinese, say so.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
July 16, 2023 4:57 pm

Sure, Labor is talking up its loss in Fadden as a win.

Funniest thing about the Fadden by-election is that a very large chunk of the Green vote defected to the Legalise Weed lady.

That says it all: at least half of Greens voters are stoners.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
July 16, 2023 4:57 pm

Picked somebody up at Brisbane Airport today.

Huge billboards for Women’s World Cup welcoming people to Brisbane Meanjin.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 5:02 pm

Huge billboards for Women’s World Cup welcoming people to Brisbane Meanjin.

This’ll do wonders for the Yes vote.

[sarc]

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
July 16, 2023 5:05 pm

Same in Perth.
Having 2 names for Perth on the billboard.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 5:05 pm

Incidentally, it’s not even geographically or historically correct.

Meanjin refers to the point on which parliament house & QUT sit.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 5:08 pm

The piano competition reporting has been a pleasant & uplifting addition to this site.

Jorge
Jorge
July 16, 2023 5:10 pm

‘ What are the Sunday morning alternatives to Macca?’

This morning early on RN they had the Indian bloke who got the sars from breakfast a while back filling in on ‘God Forbid’. His guests were a Sikh and a Jewish chick and their topic was ‘ body modification: Why we do it, its religious significance, and what it means to alter our appearance for God.’
Being a Melbourne ‘comedian’ the host concentrated on finding the laughs which were non existent and it was not till the end that anything of interest emerged from the discussion. It limped to a premature end as he seemed to run out of questions so the host signed off and we were given five or six minutes of music that sounded like an electronic clock being tuned up under a renewables power brownout.
The whole thing was absolutely bloody farcical. Makka at least gets a few laughs.

cohenite
July 16, 2023 5:16 pm

areff
Jul 16, 2023 4:14 PM
What are the Sunday morning alternatives to Macca? Hmmm.

Pete Davies on 2SM talkback; I get on there and tear strips off the alarmists and lefties. I’m always worth the price of admission and putting up with the other punters ringing in to talk about their dentist or hernia operation.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2023 5:18 pm

Laughs on RN are usually the non intentional kind.

Tom
Tom
July 16, 2023 5:24 pm

The whole thing was absolutely bloody farcical. Makka at least gets a few laughs.

Thankfully, in order to observe the enemy in our midst, we have a few Cats prepared to endure the snobby elitist insult of the ABC that virtually no-one listens to, even though we all pay for it.

As Rowan Dean said this morning, it’s time to pull the plug. The ABC now sees its mission as opening a rift in families between parents and children on behalf of the male homosexual; perverts running the trans movement.

Like the BBC, the ABC sees itself as a safe haven for homosexuals — a safe injection room of sorts — so it has become a perverts’ paradise.

Enough!

Bar Beach Swimmer
July 16, 2023 5:27 pm

He’s a political novice.

How would he go with the deep state? Bearing in mind that on his first go Trump wasn’t able to clear it out.

Ed Case
Ed Case
July 16, 2023 5:29 pm

Funniest thing about the Fadden by-election is that a very large chunk of the Green vote defected to the Legalise Weed lady.

Not sure about that.
The Greens dropped from 11,000 in 2019 to 8,000 in 2022 from 83,000 Formal Votes cast, to 5,000 as of 10 minutes ago with 88,000 cast.
Their vote is collapsing.
One reason could be that The Greens are clearly an Establishment Party now, so they don’t draw the Protest Vote.
Those 6,000 votes came from somewhere else, possibly Palmer’s UAP Party.

Of interest, the turnout was 110,000 in 2019, 83,000 in 2021.

Cameron Caldwell got 60% on Postals, indicating the LNP is on the ball.
If PrePoll holds up, he’ll win outright on Primaries, something that hasn’t happened in Fadden since 2013.
LinkAn outstanding result.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 5:30 pm

Take heart, Tom.

The ABC is sealing its own fate by neglecting broadcasting and setting up digital platforms and programming instead.

It’s going to be a disaster.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
July 16, 2023 5:32 pm

Incidentally, it’s not even geographically or historically correct.
Meanjin refers to the point on which parliament house & QUT sit.

Why beat around the bush?
The word Meanjin does not refer to a *city* of any kind, let alone one built by aborigines. You can call the turn in the river whatever you want, but the city is Brisbane.

H B Bear
H B Bear
July 16, 2023 5:40 pm

The ABC is sealing its own fate by neglecting broadcasting and setting up digital platforms and programming instead.

Will certainly make pulling the plug easier down the track.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 5:48 pm

Why beat around the bush?

Not much bush there, unless you count the rainforest in the Gardens.

My point was to drive home the idiocy of it all.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
July 16, 2023 5:49 pm

Their ABC’s digital platform may prove to be not as engaging or popular as Facebook’s “Metaverse” or “Threads”.

Coz there’s just a tad of competition & very experienced competition at that, in the digital field.

Just a hope. What’s left after Heston Russell skins them will be blown on the digital fiasco.

Roger
Roger
July 16, 2023 5:51 pm

Will certainly make pulling the plug easier down the track.

Most indubitably, Bear.

The general population won’t even notice, having long since tuned out, as they have with, for example, Q&A on telly and Karvelas on the wireless.

bons
bons
July 16, 2023 5:55 pm

I am surprised to notice anyone identifying as an RN listener.
I’m shocked to learn of anyone desecratating a Sunday morning by even considering polluting the home with that sewer.
Sunday mornings must be gentle affairs. Tasty coffee, gentle music and a guilty omlette. Certainly not radio or TV of any nature – but ABC – you should be driven out of the temple.
A concesion may be available upon application in respect of Outsiders but only if the volume is kept low.

JMH
JMH
July 16, 2023 5:56 pm

Roger
Jul 16, 2023 5:30 PM

Take heart, Tom.

The ABC is sealing its own fate by neglecting broadcasting and setting up digital platforms and programming instead.

It’s going to be a disaster.

As I understand it, the ABCESS will be removing regional radio. There goes their claim of being the trusted source during emergencies!

Rabz
July 16, 2023 5:59 pm

Now that our leaders have watched the majority of the population relinquish their liberties for a virus comparable to the seasonal flu, they’re going to whip out the Covid playbook anytime they want to scare the populace into compliance.
That’s where those who were sheep during Covid come in. Thousands of Australians were severely punished for bravely resisting the Covid psyop because millions more followed the edicts and perpetuated fear despite knowing better.
When the next Covid comes along, those who were either gullible or cowards need to learn from their mistakes and stand up against tyranny. That’s the least they can do.

There are still significant numbers of imbeciles (mainly aged f*ckwits and chinese insolubles) getting around in face nappies, both indoors and outdoors.

If they don’t cease and desist soon I’m going to start yelling at them so loudly their hearing will be irreparably damaged.

Complying with fascism is never fine. You may be a moron, but when your moronity puts my basic liberties at risk, then the yelling begins.

The central principle of glibertarianism – you can do whatever the f*ck you like, but when it negatively impacts my life, you get put back in your box, toot sweet.

Black Ball
Black Ball
July 16, 2023 6:00 pm

Rabz you may have posted about it but interested in how your drive to the Criterion pub was in the new vehicle?

miltonf
miltonf
July 16, 2023 6:01 pm

What are the Sunday morning alternatives to Macca? Hmmm.

Walk the dog. Wash the car. Go for a drive. Go somewhere nice for lunch. I’d rather my dog did something on my loungeroom floor than have the rotten, stinking, despicable ABC polluting my house.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
July 16, 2023 6:02 pm

Tom at 4:52.
That was a sideswipe at other blogsters who like to direct traffic.
I hope Gilas took it as such.

Rabz
July 16, 2023 6:02 pm

Or it’s say hello to my little friend … 🙂

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