Open Thread – Fri 4 Aug 2023


The Royal Castle in Warsaw. View of Cracow Suburb leading to the Castle Square, Bernardo Bellotto, 1774

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H B Bear
H B Bear
August 4, 2023 11:13 am

ACT op shops inundated with Midnight Oil Tshirts.

Frank
Frank
August 4, 2023 11:15 am

Sally Scales, part of the PM’s referendum advisory group, says Aboriginal communities should be consulted on aspects of the AUKUS deal.

There would be a lot of zeros on the cheques involved so it would be an obvious place to start.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 4, 2023 11:19 am

A friend of mine and some of her family attending Vic County Court today for Sentencing hearing of the young darkish chap who invaded, terrorised, stabbed the family, then stole their car. He is the last one of the four. 3 have gone thru the Juvenile courts. This one lucked out cos he was 18 and is therefore considered an adult. …along with it mandatory sentences apply. Stay tuned. Should get an update later today.

Personally I think, send him and family back to their original country. Watch the parents take a personal interest into what their offspring are up to. It would only take the Government to do this 3-4 times and word would get around…don’t mess with people in their homes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 4, 2023 11:20 am

The AUKUS pie will have so many fingers in it the wagyl might struggle to get his cut.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 4, 2023 11:21 am

Chris
Aug 4, 2023 11:08 AM

Whoa! Wall of text.

Apple Magic Mouse“Greased Lightning”

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 11:21 am

Also in reference to the full text version of the Uluru Statement, Peta Credlin states that the full text version was held by government (the NIAA) and only released after an FOI application.

If true, this is further evidence of guilty knowledge by the swine currently stonewalling on Treaty and detail. The bastards either playing pea and thimble with us – or have no intention of delivering what the Uluru mob think they might have been promised.

In any event, a total failure of governance.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 11:23 am

Dr F at 11:12

the Great and Good, captains of industry, QANTAS, and Colesworth assure us that this is a modest and generous ask

I am wondering how something can be simultaneously modest and generous.
Unless the “generous” part is meant to imply that our Indigenous brothers are giving up something they are truly entitled to in the name of Big R Reconciliation.
If so, that is even more worrying.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 11:25 am

“m0nty
Aug 4, 2023 10:49 AM
no one believes that Biden is ahead or level with Trump

That NYT poll the other day was ridiculous. It reckoned a swing of ~25% among non-whites to Trump, and a swing to Biden by whites. Trash.”

Racist. Referring to whites who swing to Biden as trash!

Roger
Roger
August 4, 2023 11:26 am

“Peter Baldwin? Didn’t the NSW ALP Left once mistake him for a Torrie?”

The other ALP mob, after he uncovered some creative accounting on their part.

No names, please.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 11:26 am

Fair Shake.
You have just touched on the particular cohort which Dan Xi Man’s conviction clean-up legislation is aimed to accommodate.
Fifty car hijackings and agg-burgs on your sheet?
No probs.
All gone.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 11:27 am

“Taxpayers may be forced to pay “reparations” to under a proposed treaty, with suggestions that “a fixed percentage” of GDP be handed over.”

That was one of the demands of the 1988 Draft Treaty – 10% of G.D.P. for five years, 5% of G.D.P. for ten years and 2.5% of G.D.P. “in perpetuity.” This in addition to all benfits already paid.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
August 4, 2023 11:27 am

The SMO in Ukraine, has NEVER been a war of conquest.

This was stated in Feb 2022 just after it began, by Putin and restated in Oct 2022 by Surovikin, just after he assumed Theatre Command.

https://liveuamap.com/kt

This is a Ukraine map of the situation. Would you like to point out the UKR advances?

Russia is NOT the USSR and simply does not have the power to initiate “big arrow” offensives and take the land, THEN occupy it, because that would need a significant number of troops/police to accomplish.
That is why Russia has more or less stopped after seizing Lughansk, Donetsk and Zaporozhye. (Crimea, as the US run polls in 2014 proved, was already Russian).

They then dug massive defence lines, in anticipation of a NATO attack.
Stoltenberg however, has not recovered from his attack of the vapours and cannot be moved out from under his desk.

Thanks to every EU Nation plus the US, emptying their arsenals and treasuries in support of the most corrupt nation in Europe, that is neither a member of the EU or NATO, paradoxically the way is open for Russia, if it decided to march to Paris.

I think this is highly unlikely, but as a result of every EU nation adopting policies against their own nation’s best interest, there is nothing, (literally), to stop them, apart from Poland. I doubt that Poland wants a war with Russia, it will satiate itself by taking the Western half of Ukraine, Lvov in particular.
It must be careful in doing so however, so as not to trigger a war with Belorussia, which, as Putin has clearly stated, will not end well Poland.

Any day now, the great Ukraine Offensive will push the Russians back.
No need to negotiate.

Any day now.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 4, 2023 11:28 am

Strict conditions set around a proposed $1 billion wind farm in Victoria to protect nesting brolga and a tiny, critically endangered bat have sounded a “death knell” for wind power in the state’s south-west

A couple of wind turbine stories today:

NJ Fishing Pros Warn Offshore Wind Killing Ocean Life: ‘Never Seen Anything Remotely Like This’ in Half a Century (3 Aug)

“In my 50+ years of working on the ocean, I have never seen anything remotely like this,” he emphasized. “Dead whales on our beach absolutely and logically have everything to do with the oceanic geo-surveys.”

There Is A Financial Crisis Brewing In Offshore Wind Energy (4 Aug)

The costs associated with U.S. offshore wind projects have risen by 57% since 2021 due to inflation in components and labor costs, as well as rising interest rates, leading to a large number of canceled or renegotiated deals.

The recent cancellations of major offshore wind projects have erased billions of dollars in planned spending and put at least 9.7 additional gigawatts of offshore wind projects in the U.S. at risk.

Maybe a journalist could ask Mr Bowen about all the dead whales and massive cost blowouts his pet offshore wind farms are going to produce?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 11:30 am

H B Bear

Aug 4, 2023 11:13 AM

ACT op shops inundated with Midnight Oil Tshirts.

I nearly regurgitated my steel-cut oats this morning when I saw Leak’s cartoon of Luigi the Unbelievable in a crop-top.
I know, I know, it’s only a cartoon.
But still.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 11:31 am

That high pitched squeaking noise you can hear in the distance is Elbow the inconceivable ringpiece tighening up so much is at risk of splitting the atom.
(a Housoheimer event)
….
..‘Land tax’: Secret document reveals demand for ‘percentage of GDP’ under Indigenous Treaty
Taxpayers may be forced to pay “reparations” to under a proposed treaty, with suggestions that “a fixed percentage” of GDP be handed over…
https://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/australian-economy/land-tax-secret-document-reveals-demand-for-percentage-of-gdp-under-indigenous-treaty/news-story/5cd8b4e1925468c4596e1fdd6c2647b9

When news.com start to bell the cat, you are in brown trouser territory.

Taxpayers may be forced to pay “reparations” to Indigenous Australians for “past, present and future criminal acts” under a proposed treaty, with suggestions that “a fixed percentage” of GDP be handed over through “rates, land tax and royalties”, documents released under freedom of information reveal.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has previously committed to implementing “in full” all the elements of the Uluru Statement from the Heart, which calls for “Voice, Treaty, Truth”.

If the Indigenous Voice to Parliament passes at the upcoming referendum, the next step would be the Makarrata Commission, which would lead the process of treaty-making between First Nations people and federal, state and local governments.

The PM has likened the Uluru Statement to the Gettysburg Address, calling it “a short document long in the making” that is a “master class in spare eloquence”.

But according to Sky News host Peta Credlin, FOI documents released by the National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA) earlier this year reveal that, contrary to Mr Albanese’s characterisation of the Uluru Statement as a “two-minute” read that can “fit on one A4 page”, the 2017 declaration is actually 26 pages.

The “full” Uluru Statement was included in a lengthy batch of NIAA documents, which also contains minutes from 13 “regional dialogue” consultation events with around 1200 Indigenous people that informed the final wording.

Credlin told viewers on Thursday that the tenor of the full statement was actually one “of anger, grievance, separatism, and the need to undo, as far as possible, the last 240 years of Australian history”.

“And it’s the whole 26 pages of the Uluru Statement from the Heart that every Australian should read, not the PM’s sanitised one-pager, before they cast their vote in the upcoming referendum,” she said.
The second part of the statement begins by noting First Nations people coexisted on this land for “at least 60,000 years” and that “our sovereignty pre-existed the Australian state and has survived it”, arguing the “unfinished business of Australia’s nationhood includes recognising the ancient jurisdictions of First Nations law”.

“The law was violated by the coming of the British to Australia,” it says.

“Australia was not a settlement and it was not a discovery. It was an invasion. The invasion that started at Botany Bay is the origin of the fundamental grievance between the old and new Australians — that Australia was colonised without the consent of its rightful owners.”

It speaks of the “Tasmanian Genocide and the Black War waged by the colonists” in the “evil time” marked by “massacres, disease and poison”, ultimately leading to “new policies of control and discrimination” as the violence subsided.

“At the heart of our activism has been the long struggle for land rights and recognition of native title,” it says.

“This struggle goes back to the beginning. The taking of our land without consent represents our fundamental grievance against the British Crown. Makarrata is another word for Treaty or agreement-making. It is the culmination of our agenda. It captures our aspirations for a fair and honest relationship with government and a better future for our children based on justice and self-determination.”

It adds, “By making agreements at the highest level, the negotiation process with the Australian government allows First Nations to express our sovereignty.”
‘Reparations for criminal acts’

The document goes on to outline “reform priorities” that were expressed with the “highest level of support across the country” during the dialogues. “Treaty was seen as a pathway to recognition of sovereignty and for achieving future meaningful reform for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples,” it says.

“Treaty would be the vehicle to achieve self-determination, autonomy and self-government. The pursuit of Treaty and treaties was strongly supported across the Dialogues. In relation to content, the Dialogues discussed that a Treaty could include a proper say in decision-making, the establishment of a truth commission, reparations, a financial settlement (such as seeking a percentage of GDP), the resolution of land, water and resources issues, recognition of authority and customary law, and guarantees of respect for the rights of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples.”

One section from the minutes from the Dubbo dialogue noted support for a treaty that would provide “reparations for past criminal acts and compensation for present and future criminal acts”.

Participants in the Hobart dialogue stated that a treaty “must include” land and sea rights, “a fixed percentage of gross nation [sic] product” through “rates/land tax/royalties” and “Aboriginal control”.

A number of participants said the Voice to Parliament must be “better than ATSIC”, the scandal-plagued Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission which was abolished by the government in 2005.

“We lost ATSIC at the stroke of a pen,” one Brisbane dialogue participant said. “Would you abolish Westpac Bank if two or three of its directors were not doing the right thing? I don’t think so.”

The NIAA has been contacted for comment
Treaty ‘a separate issue’

It comes as Mr Albanese faced attacks from the Opposition in parliament this week after he was seen in resurfaced footage at a Midnight Oil concert wearing a T-shirt reading “Voice, Treaty, Truth”.

Liberal deputy leader Sussan Ley used Question Time on Monday to ask about a recent radio interview in which the PM said the upcoming Voice referendum was not about a treaty.

“I thank whoever was interjecting about my T-shirt because yes, Mr Speaker, Ben Fordham has exposed the fact that at the Midnight Oil concert, I wore a Midnight Oil T-shirt,” the PM said.

“I know, Mr Speaker … hold the front page. I am talking about what the referendum is about and it strikes me that the opponents of the referendum, those who are advocating a No vote, want to talk about everything but what the question is about — recognition, listening, in order to get better results.”

Liberal MP Paul Fletcher also asked Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney how the Makarrata Commission would work should the Voice be successful.

As she took to the dispatch box, Mr Albanese could be heard interjecting, “It’s a separate issue.”

Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott told 2GB on Tuesday that Mr Albanese had misled Australians when he said the Voice was not about a treaty.

“Quite apart from anything the Prime Minister chose to wear at a concert, I go back to that initial statement he made as Prime Minister,” he said.

“The new government is committed to the Uluru statement from the Heart in full — in other words, ‘Voice, Treaty, Truth’ in full. It was, as I said, a moment of amnesia for the Prime Minister to deny here in this chair last week that the Voice had anything to do with treaty. It has everything to do with treaty. The whole point of having a Voice, if the activists are to be believed, is to start the treaty-making process, and government ministers have said as much.”

Credlin said the NIAA documents were at odds with Mr Albanese’s claim that treaty-making processes would be led by states and territories, rather than on the federal level.

“Contrary to PM’s current, poll-panicked claim that the Voice is not about treaties, these official documents confirm that treaties, indeed, are the Uluru Statement’s precise point,” she said.
‘Could take 20 years’

Voice supporters this week attempted to hose down treaty talks, with prominent Yes campaigner Marcus Stewart telling The Sydney Morning Herald treaties “will come at no cost to Australians and could take 10 to 20 years to be negotiated”.

Yes campaign leader Dean Parkin accused the No side of scaremongering and said the upcoming referendum was “about one thing and one thing only, and that is about getting an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to close the gap”.

“It’s important to understand that treaty processes, as the leader of the opposition well understands, are decades-long processes and take a long time to finalise,” he told the newspaper.

Speaking to RN Breakfast on Wednesday, Mr Albanese said processes to negotiate treaties were ongoing with the states and likened being asked if he supported treaty to “like saying do you support the sun coming up”.

“It’s occurring in Victoria, it’s occurring in Queensland, it’s occurring in the Northern Territory,” he said.

Ms Burney has been contacted for comment.
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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 11:32 am

The dickless uptickers truly are dickless today.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 11:33 am

“Australia was not a settlement and it was not a discovery. It was an invasion.”

Thanks for removing the basis for Native Title, idiots.

And your side lost, so the only essential part of the Treaty is your acceptance of the Terms of Surrender you should be offered. You should pay tribute for all the benefits of modern life that you have received.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 11:34 am

Grrrrrr. Just found out that a friend’s brother who died six weeks ago from multiple co-morbidities including dementia, heart failure, diabetes and a raft of other problems had “Covid” marked on his Death Certificate.

It was as relevant to his death as a hangnail.

I despise what the medical profession has become.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 11:36 am

It certainly buzzes off those who use the interwebs for self-affirmation.

Now I’m free to annoy without blowback. 😀

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 11:37 am

“This struggle goes back to the beginning. The taking of our land without consent represents our fundamental grievance against the British Crown. ”

Sort it out with the British Crown, then.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 11:38 am

“Sancho Panzer
Aug 4, 2023 11:12 AM
Peter Baldwin?
Didn’t the NSW ALP Left once mistake him for a Torrie?”

I think it was the NSW Right, Baldwin was part of the NSW Left.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 4, 2023 11:38 am

Joe Biden wrote letter to Hunter biz partner Devon Archer after 2011 China lunch — despite claims of never discussing son’s business

WASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden told his son Hunter’s former business associate Devon Archer in early 2011 that he was “happy” the two were partners — in a postscript to a note thanking Archer for attending a lunch with visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao.

“I apologize for not getting a chance to talk to you at the luncheon yesterday. I was having trouble getting away from hosting President Hu,” Biden told Archer in the letter dated Jan. 20, 2011.

“I hope I get a chance to see you again soon with Hunter. I hope you enjoyed lunch. Thanks for coming,” the missive concluded.

Biden, who maintains he has never discussed business with his son, attached a handwritten note to the letter: “P.S. Happy you guys are together,” an apparent reference to their Rosemont Seneca Partners investment firm.

Archer shared the letter with former Fox News host Tucker Carlson as part of an interview published Wednesday and The Post also acquired a copy of the note.

“What was he thanking you for?” Carlson asked Archer, who on Monday answered questions behind closed doors before the House Oversight Committee about his work with Hunter Biden to court wealthy figures in China, Russia and Ukraine while Joe Biden was vice president.

“First of all, it’s a lovely letter,” Archer answered. “Listen, it was kind of the beginning of our partnership and he was thanking me and thanking Hunter, I think, at the end of the day for bringing this idea of this government-regulatory-strategic-advisory business into the private equity world. And I think he was excited for the prospects for Hunter and he was just thanking [me], and I think it was a nice gesture.”

“It was a nice gesture for sure. Very polite. It gets a 10 on the etiquette scale,” Carlson agreed, adding: “But he’s vice president of the United States and he’s talking about foreign business deals with you and thanking you for that.”

“I think I — at the time, I think I hit the jackpot in finding the regulatory environment or company that can navigate right to the top,” Archer reflected. “But, you know, obviously, as time has told, being a little bit too close to the sun ends up burning you.”

“These are not business guys,” Carlson pressed. “This is the vice president of the United States. He’s not allowed to be working on businesses with foreign governments while he’s vice president, I don’t think.”

“Not that I know of,” Archer deadpanned.

“But here he is!” a near-hysterical Carlson exclaimed, to which Archer answered: “Right.”

Hunter and Archer were crafting plans for international ventures ahead of the 2011 lunch with the Chinese president and Hunter specifically recommended that his new partner be on the guest list, according to emails released in May by the National Archives in response to transparency litigation.

In a Nov. 18, 2010, email to another associate, Eric Schwerin, Hunter recommended that an invite be extended to Archer — after Schwerin said vice presidential office aide Michele Smith “called and said they would like some suggested names for the lunch. They have 30 spots for the VP’s personal list.”

Less than a week later, Archer emailed Hunter a list of “sovereign targets.”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 11:40 am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-10/makarrata-explainer-yolngu-word-more-than-synonym-for-treaty/8790452
“Makarrata has so many layers of meaning,” says Merrikiyawuy Ganambarr-Stubbs, a Gumatj woman and principal of Arnhem Land’s Yirrkala School.

Merrikiyawuy Ganambarr-Stubbs describes a Makarrata as “a negotiation of peace”.(ABC News: Mitchell Woolnough)
“The first one, and the main one, is peace after a dispute.

“Makarrata literally means a spear penetrating, usually the thigh, of a person that has done wrong… so that they cannot hunt anymore, that they cannot walk properly, that they cannot run properly; to maim them, to settle them down, to calm them — that’s Makarrata.”

Its perfect.
It means peace, by crippling the country.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 11:41 am

Looks like I got faction disorientation.
It could happen to anyone.

Roger
Roger
August 4, 2023 11:42 am

“Yes campaign leader Dean Parkin…said the upcoming referendum was “about one thing and one thing only, and that is about getting an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice to close the gap”.”

The most effective way to begin to close the gap is to close the remote settlements.

But I don’t suppose the Voice would recommend that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 11:48 am

Midget irish grifter news..
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2023/aug/04/news-live-garma-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-sofronoff-homelessness-housing-bill-politics-anthony-albanese
Qantas boss Alan Joyce has said it’s “nonsense” to suggest the airline has an outsized influence over the Albanese government, following the refusal of expanded air rights to a key rival carrier and revelations the prime minister’s son had been granted access to the airline’s prestigious chairman’s lounge.

Joyce, speaking in Brisbane on Thursday where he appeared at a Tourism and Events Queensland panel, attempted to hose down speculation the government’s refusal of Qatar Airway‘s push to run an additional 21 weekly flights to Australia’s major airports, was related to his relationship with Anthony Albanese – he said he has “been good mates with Albo for some time” – or any decisions regarding chairman’s lounge access.

Its a big club, and no-one outside canbraaaah is in it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 11:50 am

Will Rio Tinto be dragged into the $1.22 billion Hancock case?
By Simon Johanson and Jesinta Burton
August 4, 2023 — 3.00am

Mining giant Rio Tinto and Australia’s richest woman, Gina Rinehart, may each face an estimated hit of $1.22 billion in royalty payments if the descendants of prospector Peter Wright win a high-stakes civil case under way in Perth over income from the Hope Downs iron ore discoveries.

The descendants of two business partners of Lang Hancock, Rinehart’s father, want to claw back billions of dollars in iron ore royalties from Rinehart’s Hancock Prospecting in the West Australian Supreme Court case, but the proceeding may also drag in Hope Downs’ joint partner Rio Tinto.

An analysis of the potential financial impact, requested by this masthead and undertaken by an investor services firm, has for the first time put a dollar figure on the accumulated potential liability Hancock Prospecting and Rio Tinto may separately face.

A 1.25 per cent royalty stake in the proceeds of the Hope Downs mines from first production of iron ore in 2007 to date would amount to $1.22 billion after factoring in interest of 5 per cent, the analysis estimates.

Testimony in court so far has been dominated by the descendants of prospector Peter Wright and the family of another often-forgotten prospector, Don Rhodes, who have outlined their claims.

Wright Prospecting claims the Hope Downs tenement in the Pilbara – discovered by the school friends turned business partners Hancock and Wright, and home to four operational mines owned by Rinehart’s Hancock Prospecting and Rio Tinto – was held jointly under a 1980s partnership deed. Wright Prospecting is seeking royalties of 2.5 per cent of the combined mine’s output.

Rhodes’ family company, DFD Rhodes, has insisted the critical role Rhodes played in discovering the mammoth iron ore deposit entitled him to a 1.25 per cent stake of the proceeds from the “Hanwright” partnership.

At the heart of Wright Prospecting’s claim is the argument that both it and Hancock Prospecting were supposed to share equally in the spoils of any Hanwright partnership assets developed under deals inked between 1978 and 1987, including Hope Downs – which hasn’t happened.

Mining giants BHP, Fortescue Metals Group and Rio earned record prices for cargoes of iron ore in 2021, shipping huge volumes of the raw material from the Pilbara that was smelted in steel furnaces around the world to create molten pig iron.

That made iron ore Australia’s most lucrative commodity and provided more than $120 billion in export earnings over the past financial year alone. Rio operates the four Hope Downs mines and is Australia’s largest iron ore exporter.

The company’s potential liability, if any, in the Supreme Court case is still unclear. However, Wright Prospecting’s lawyer Julie Taylor told the court a week ago that a deed signed before the announcement of the joint Venture between Rio and Hancock Prospecting incorporated rules for how that “liability” was to be met, with Hancock and Rio Tinto assuming “joint responsibility”.

Taylor said that Hancock Prospecting’s subsidiary discussed royalty payments with Rio in the lead-up to the 2005 agreement. She told the court there was a list of assumed liabilities which included paying compensation if there was a failure to pay royalties to Wright or Rhodes on the iron ore sold, and that both parties would assume liability for that jointly.

When asked this week if Rio was aware of any potential financial impact from the proceedings, chief executive Jakob Stausholm said: “I don’t think so. We are an observer in the dispute and we’ll have to see how it unfolds.

“I mean, I would love to say no, but I don’t know how things are unfolding in the courtroom.”

A Rio Tinto spokesman on Thursday played down the prospect of the miner making a hefty royalty payment.

“The suggestion that Rio Tinto could be liable for $1.2 billion as a potential outcome of this litigation is inaccurate,” the spokesman said.

Neither the descendants of Peter Wright nor Don Rhodes have given an estimate of the total sum that may be due if the court finds in their favour, but the court is likely to consider evidence from forensic accountants at some point to determine any amount.

Time has been set aside at the end of the trial for the parties to argue over how much and who should pay if Wright and Rhodes win. The proceedings are ongoing.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 11:51 am

Buttons!

With feeling!

johanna
johanna
August 4, 2023 11:55 am

More lavishing of taxpayer dollars on pet projects:

‘The federal government will contribute $6.4 million toward developing an Indigenous-led “world-class” higher education institute in the remote Northern Territory.
Key points:

The Garma Institute aims to provide tertiary and vocational education to Yolngu students
The federal government will help fund the early stages of the facility’s design and development
Yothu Yindi Foundation chairman Djawa Yunupingu says education remains the “number one priority”

The Garma Institute in north-east Arnhem Land will aim to teach local Yolngu students on Country from childhood education to university.

The project has been driven by Yolngu community leaders and the Yothu Yindi Foundation — the organisers of the annual four-day Garma Festival starting on Friday.

In a statement, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said developing the Garma Institute “has been a long aspiration of the Yolngu people”.

“This partnership shows how governments can work alongside communities, meeting their needs and helping them realise their full potential,” he said.

The Garma Institute is intended to operate as a tertiary and vocational education facility, equipping Yolngu students with knowledge and critical thinking skills, as well as practical jobs training. ‘

As soon as you see the words ‘world class’ on a government announcement, hang on to your wallet. It means cost over-runs and waste, with nothing to show at the end.

Besides, the Yolgnu have received many millions of dollars in mining royalties for many years. Since they can afford boats and helicopters and luxury homes for the Big Men, why can’t they do something about education and training for young people?

If someone, somewhere, is keeping a tally of how much taxpayers are funding the supposedly disenfranchised, don’t forget to add this egregious piece of virtue-signalling at public expense to the list.

Alamak!
August 4, 2023 11:56 am

WOW

Latest power bill arrived and its $740 compared to usual $300 to $400. Can pay the extra but thats not the case for all and this could be something that defines Albo’s 1st and only term if office.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 11:57 am

dover0beach
Aug 4, 2023 11:49 AM
I’ve add the quicktags while I get things fixed.

Good job.

I must say the hamsters are currently rotating at a cracking pace.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 4, 2023 12:00 pm

Thancho its bad enough getting your factions wrong. Imagine if you misgendered hin or her or they or it nonbinary or a freak.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 12:03 pm

Bernard Keane hates QANTAS too:

Profit-gouging Qantas has an agenda for the government: help crush competition

Did you know there’s an unregulated monopolist in our aviation sector with “a track record of using their market power, with the current regulatory regime providing no constraint on monopoly behaviour or providing any incentive to lower costs or improve quality”?

That’s according to Qantas’ submission earlier this year to the Abanese government on the aviation white paper currently being developed within the infrastructure portfolio.

Is Qantas referring to itself? Heavens no! In fact, “Australia is one of the most liberalised aviation markets in the world and Australian airlines operate in a highly competitive environment. This competition compels the sector to invest and innovate to reduce costs and deliver better service and products to consumers.”

Stop laughing, everyone.

The unregulated monopolists are airports, according to Qantas, which exercise their market power to gouge poor airlines: “Failure to address this will continue to hamper growth opportunities in existing markets, constrain the establishment of new routes and fail to realise economic opportunities (including creating more aviation jobs) for the broader economy.”

People amazed at Joyce’s commercial acumen may forget that the bulge down the front of his trousers is a government.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 4, 2023 12:04 pm

A friend of mine and some of her family attending Vic County Court today for Sentencing hearing of the young darkish chap who invaded, terrorised, stabbed the family, then stole their car. ….

Update: Defence team claiming Offender (cos the guilty verdict made him an offender) has ADHD. His intellectually disabled defence was thrown out by Judge as he was above threshold. Apparently Judge was getting annoyed.. told offender they need to provide a qualified psychologist to say: 1. clinically diagnosed ADHD, 2. His ADHD would make him a violent offender. …else mandatory 3 years inside. Set back til September.

This is turning into a joke by defence barrister. No wonder the courts are jammed up.

…the wait for justice continues.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 4, 2023 12:06 pm

Costing an arm and a leg.

The British Miracle Meat: How banning repugnant choices obscures the real issue of poverty (Phys.org, 3 Aug)

A provocative Channel 4 satirical program, “The British Miracle Meat,” has led to hundreds of complaints to media regulator Ofcom. The mockumentary depicts ordinary Britons facing the cost of living crisis selling thin slices of their tissue to an innovative factory that uses it to grow lab meat.

The Channel 4 show’s creators wanted to make viewers think about the effects of the cost of living crisis, as well as the future of food.

Lefty Channel Four is obviously a bit slow since this has already been done. Soylent Green was set in 2022.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 12:08 pm

GreyRanga
Aug 4, 2023 12:00 PM

Thancho its bad enough getting your factions wrong. Imagine if you misgendered hin or her or they or it nonbinary or a freak.

The sad but inevitable consequence of working with butchers paper, sparkly glue, and finger-paint.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 12:11 pm

I have become addicted to upticking. There. I’ve said it.

So many comments I want to agree with in the most passive manner possible without committing my opinion to word-pixels.

There may be no cure.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 4, 2023 12:12 pm

Peter Baldwin? Didn’t Tom Domican give him a bit of a touch up? Labor politics.

Domican and Ned Smith had a fair old dust up in Long Bay back in 1992.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 12:20 pm

Latest power bill arrived and its $740 compared to usual $300 to $400. Can pay the extra but thats not the case for all and this could be something that defines Albo’s 1st and only term if office.

The fun thing is that the damage hasn’t been directly caused by his energy policies – which have yet to bite. Instead, Albo is enjoying a pungent shite sandwich prepared over the past 10 years by Labor Premiers and served up by the dreadful Turnbull-Morrison combo.

Sadly for him, the voteherd won’t look for nuance.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 4, 2023 12:25 pm

“Australia was not a settlement and it was not a discovery. It was an invasion.

If it was an ‘invasion’ then all bets are off. Mabo is off the table.

As it damn well should be, because Native Title is an invention of an activist High Court. I doubt if I’ll live long enough to see it rescinded, but I hope my grandchildren do.

I am all for improving the situation of aboriginal people in remote areas disadvantaged by earlier policies of ‘outstations’, but any other special treatment is just not on in a democracy where all people are regarded as equal. There are poor and disadvantaged people everywhere in Australia who could all do with some help from time to time. Let’s concentrate our welfare activities on them all, not just a few.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 4, 2023 12:25 pm

Oh noes. Underground climate change is a terrible danger!

Chicago’s downtown buildings are slowly sinking. The culprit? Underground climate change, study shows (via Phys.org, 2 Aug)

These deformations are occurring because of a phenomenon called underground climate change. Buildings, their garages and basements, as well as transportation systems like trains and tunnels, are constantly diffusing heat into the ground. The more of these packed into a given area, the higher the temperatures will be below the surface, causing the ground to contract and expand, Rotta Loria explained.

“This exploratory study is, to the best of my knowledge, the first of its kind.

Certainly is that. He does fess though that the heat island effect is a big cause. I’d say myself that it’s the only cause, since mid-western temperatures in the US have been flat for a long time, if you look at Tony Heller’s USHCN raw data graphs.

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2023 12:26 pm

‘The federal government will contribute $6.4 million toward developing an Indigenous-led “world-class” higher education institute in the remote Northern Territory.

The academic leftist gravy train- the gift that keeps on giving. Funded by that bottomless pit of treasure – OPM. No doubt the pass standards will be rock bottom to ensure many headlines lauding the many graduates as proof of “closing the gap”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 12:28 pm

Australia was not a settlement and it was not a discovery. It was an invasion.

The High Court has twice declared Australia was “settled” and not “invaded.” Want to go down the “invasion” path, with Aborigines treated as a “conquered race” with the full blessing of international law?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 12:31 pm

This is turning into a joke by defence barrister. No wonder the courts are jammed up.

Tactical.
Hoping for a non-custodial on the basis of the cooked up ADHD claim.
But the fall-back is that the defence knows the judge can’t slot him without examining the ADHD claims.
They will be back in September with a compliant shrink in tow, and maybe hoping for a more accommodating JURDGE.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 12:36 pm

The sad but inevitable consequence of working with butchers paper, sparkly glue, and finger-paint.

I will not sit idly by, sir, whilst you denigrate the complex science of BPC*.
I will not!

* Butcher’s Paper Calculus.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 4, 2023 12:37 pm

Besides, the Yolgnu have received many millions of dollars in mining royalties for many years. Since they can afford boats and helicopters and luxury homes for the Big Men, why can’t they do something about education and training for young people?

A question never asked. Keith Windshuttle has a good analysis of the main just deceased Big Man in Quadrant’s Voice freebie. Read it and puke. How dare these leeches ask for more when this is going on? Royalties should be sequestered for education from now on if we as taxpayers are to put any funding into educating their kids. I’d also like to see some firm constraints on their offspring’s behaviour before any kids can access these facilities or they will be wrecked within two years of opening.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 4, 2023 12:38 pm

On the Sikh ceremonial daggers.

I’m Oirish – my culture demands I carry a shillelagh to give annoying people hitting on the head lessons.

Speedbox
August 4, 2023 12:39 pm

calli
Aug 4, 2023 12:11 PM
I have become addicted to upticking. There. I’ve said it. So many comments I want to agree with in the most passive manner possible without committing my opinion to word-pixels.

Calli, that was just cruel. I had calmed myself from uptick deprivation and now you have re-opened the wound.

Gabor
Gabor
August 4, 2023 12:42 pm

If upticking, then also downticking, fair is fair.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 4, 2023 12:43 pm

Upticks are addictive and we are currently going cold turkey. We can get used to it.

The good part is that a comment gets up almost as soon as you press submit, so if you feel very strongly you can also add your own agreement in words. That, in many ways, is better than upticks. At least you know who is agreeing (or disagreeing) with you.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 4, 2023 12:44 pm

I agree

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 12:45 pm

I don’t.
– 1,000 downticks.
Unless that is a double negative.
Quick!
Another sheet of butcher’s paper!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 12:46 pm

I’d also like to see some firm constraints on their offspring’s behaviour before any kids can access these facilities or they will be wrecked within two years of opening.

The average life of a house in the outback communities is seven years.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 12:49 pm

Not one word on Bidens bribes on either the gruinaid or their ABCcess.

How peculiar.

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2023 12:50 pm

The average life of a house in the outback communities is seven years.

That’s with several thousands of $’s maintenance spent annually, per dwelling.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 12:51 pm

I need to brush up on my humour typeface.

Being a positive type of person, only upticks suit me. If there’s a sh*tty comment, particularly personal ones, the scroll function suffices.

If tempted to “downtick”, surely an alternative argument is better and definitely less passive/aggressive and flaccid.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 4, 2023 12:51 pm

BPC (Butcher’s Paper Calculus) is far too complex and extensive for major policy setting. What you need is something that says it all in short order, like E=MC2 (can’t do super and sub script).

I think we are overlooking the importance of BoC. Back of coaster.
So many wonderful ideas of the left have originated in full there.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 12:54 pm

Forget butchers’ paper. Too many paper cuts. And too much evidence.

The only way to ensure secrecy is the white board.

Indolent
Indolent
August 4, 2023 12:57 pm

I hope the ticks come back soon. A couple of comments today had me laughing out loud and I really missed not being able show my approval.

Tom
Tom
August 4, 2023 12:58 pm

Yes, Calli. Buttons are back. Hallelujah!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 12:58 pm

That’s with several thousands of $’s maintenance spent annually, per dwelling.

Seems the latest trend among the “young warriors” is to throw a star picket through the air conditioning unit, then complain that the house is too hot to live in…

Frank
Frank
August 4, 2023 12:59 pm

A couple of comments today had me laughing out loud and I really missed not being able show my approval.

There is always money, that works.

sfw
sfw
August 4, 2023 1:02 pm

The Sikhs and daggers isn’t because of culture, it’s religious. If you can find a religion that wants you to go about armed, then join and off you go.

Perhaps we need to start one.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 4, 2023 1:02 pm

Sally Scales, part of the PM’s referendum advisory group, says Aboriginal communities should be consulted on aspects of the AUKUS deal.

It is the old paradigm: the left wants the right to shut up but thh by e right wants the left to keep talking.

Albo will be be in the Prime Ministerial gym tonight, boxing shorts pulled all the way up to the bottom of his sternum (Xiphoid, for those in the know), eyes clenched shut with fury and determination, flinging little balled fists against a punching bag, red of face, spittle propelled in all directions, crying as loud as he might in a strangled voice “Tories! Tories! Tories!”

All this time he has been trying to get his team to chant vague warm-fuzzies like “acknowledge”, “fair”, “world’s oldest continuous culture” and so on, and some nonce goes ahead and let’s slip a detail.

(Seriously, the traditional culture already lost the continent once.)

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 4, 2023 1:05 pm

I’ve been to the chairman’s lounge at Sydney airport a handful of times.
I can assure you it’s nothing special.

I haven’t flown virgin since COVID but they used to have their own security check for their business lounge.
That’s the one to use (if they still have it).

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 1:06 pm

Now that the dust is settling around the Sofronoff Report, it seems that far from playing the judge and jury like a Stradivarius, Dumbgeld was himself being played like a Stradivarius by some or all of the following:

Mizzz Knickerless, Shiraz, the Cane Toad, the Mean Girls, and Commissioner Heidi.

And probably a few more.

m0nty
m0nty
August 4, 2023 1:08 pm

Joe to Hunter’s business partner: thanks for working with my son, man.
Wingnuts: OMG TREaSON!!!!

Jared Kushner: hey while I’m here negotiating Middle East peace on behalf of my father-in-law, can I have two billion dollars please
House of Saud: … uh sure
Wingnuts: *crickets*

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 1:09 pm

I think we are overlooking the importance of BoC. Back of coaster.
So many wonderful ideas of the left have originated in full there.

All of the very best ones.

Forget butchers’ paper. Too many paper cuts. And too much evidence.

Best to use water-based products – and wear an apron.

Gabor
Gabor
August 4, 2023 1:11 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Aug 4, 2023 12:43 PM

The good part is that a comment gets up almost as soon as you press submit, so if you feel very strongly you can also add your own agreement in words. That, in many ways, is better than upticks. At least you know who is agreeing (or disagreeing) with you.

I agree, if an uptick is enough to prove you agree but not stating why, why can’t a downtick do the same in reverse.

Both could be just liking or disliking the poster and acting on impulse automatically.
Plenty of examples of that.
Logic is chasing a lot of people but they are faster, me included at times, sorry to say.

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2023 1:12 pm

I want the upticks back. I like them!

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 1:13 pm

I like them!

That’s the way!

*uptick*

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 4, 2023 1:14 pm

I’ve noticed how quiet most of the Liars have been over the Invoice. The jockeying for position has already started. The scene from Monty Python Life of Brian comes to mind with women at the stoning. Anyone in favour of the Voice. No No no no no. It was all the Lickspittle Luigi Albanese.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 4, 2023 1:15 pm

Agree with Calli. We don’t need downticks. They would entail a lot of confusion too.

Ticks, up or down, are very black and white, especially on a long and complex comment where agreement with all elements does not automatically follow.

As someone who has been here forever, who comments on many things not just my own problems as claimed (which get a run occasionally just as others do with theirs), I am led to think that at least 50 people here hate my guts and wish me ill. A woman less blooded in the fight against the left and the many injustices of my youth would have given up long ago against such a barrage of hate, based on false accusations by a stalker. I have no hesitation in saying that if I get similar treatment again, I will once more fill this site with my objections to it regardless of the opinions regarding ‘me, me, me’ or ‘precious petal’ voiced about that. I tend to believe those upticks are genuine, to the shame of the site.

Thus, I vote against the upticking of personal matters, unless it is for some positive support, as with Mem’s medical difficulties (50 well-warranted upticks including mine when I finally managed to get back thread recently) or Zulu’s concerns about his wife.

ps I’m glad there are no upticks available for this comment. Two supporters might be disappointed, but 50 others can simply go their own way.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 1:15 pm

The fat fascist fool still has his head firmly inserted in his rectum, ensuring that the words “10% for the Big Guy” never pollute his eyeballs.

Sad, really, and pathetic.

Get back to something around your proper intellectual level, playing computer games, you idiot.

Tom
Tom
August 4, 2023 1:16 pm

Yes indeed, Cassie and Calli. Upticks aweigh, your Doverlordship!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 4, 2023 1:16 pm

calli you never used to like upticks, what changed? You only wanted them when you couldn’t have them.

JMH
JMH
August 4, 2023 1:18 pm

Re the Rinehart shitshow. If Gina was responsible for all the work to bring Hope Downs and other ventures to profitable fruition and Wright, Rhodes and the kiddies spent not a cent in costs of development and all that goes with it and they win their cases, then surely whatever payouts are awarded must reflect what these buttwipes would have or should have contributed. In other words, considerable deductions to final settlements seems only fair.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 1:18 pm

spittle propelled in all directions, crying as loud as he might in a strangled voice “Tories! Tories! Tories!”

I’d suggest any man, formerly married to a one – time Deputy Premier of New South Wales, keep his mouth shut on the subject of Tories, least he find himself mistaken for one.

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2023 1:18 pm

Okay, I confess, I like it when my rants get a lot of upticks.

John H.
John H.
August 4, 2023 1:21 pm
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 4, 2023 1:22 pm

I’ve been to the chairman’s lounge at Sydney airport a handful of times.
I can assure you it’s nothing special.

I have not received any invitation to join the Chairman’s lounge (I must assume the invite has been lost in the mail for the past 25 years – bloody Aussie Post!) but just going on the people you hear are members (like Albo and his spawn) I begin to think it is not a place I want to be. That malignly entitled milieu could not be content bathing in champagne and drinking almond milk in first class without demanding more of the oxygen being bled from the wing into first class to accord with their greater worth.

But that is probably unfair. Most people in the Chairman’s Lounge will be, whatever the merit of their industry or remit, at the peak and against fearsome competition.

And for them, the sight of this spotty little weed will ignite contempt from them and ( postulating the presence of the least awareness) embarrassment in him.

Another poorly calculated move from the accidental PM.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 4, 2023 1:23 pm

Keep hammering the c-bombs, Malcolm.

Malcolm Roberts:

4 Aug 2023
Watch as I question Pfizer representatives in this Senate Hearing.

The company was very reluctant to attend the committee hearing and also reluctant to supply a straight answer, automatically falling back on their ‘safe and effective’ mantra to dodge answering the question.

Already, this Senate Hearing revealed that Pfizer is rewriting history on transmission of infection.

We’re supposed to conveniently forget they said “get it to protect others, to save grandma” and “when you’re vaccinated the virus stops with you”.

They’re hiding behind their indemnity contract with our government and dodging responsibility.

ATAGI and the Australian governments must stop pushing these unsafe and ineffective shots and drop the destructive mandates now.

Pfizer Under Question

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 1:27 pm

I know Ranga. Perhaps it’s second childhood. I don’t think it’s neediness, but it might be.

A rant will always garner lots of “likes”, sometimes more than a well-framed argument. Also, a dumb joke will reel them in provided it’s not too personal.

If something does get a tick of approval, and lots of them, I’ll read and re-read to try to understand what the writer is saying. Great slabs of text…daunting and time consuming.

Squabbles and fights are for the birds. No time for them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 4, 2023 1:27 pm

I’m Oirish – my culture demands I carry a shillelagh

It’s my cultural right that I carry a claymore because of my Scottish heritage.
After all everyone is painting themselves blue and wearing skirts these days.
Saw a young guy at the shops with fluorescein green hair this morning…why?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 4, 2023 1:28 pm

The blog has turned into a tick-less wonder.

As an inclusive blog, we should make room for…
non-binary ticks.
Ticks that started as ups and surgically turned themselves into downs.
Plus X s and O s. for the lovers and huggers out there.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 1:29 pm

Maybe Trans-ticks. Sort of agree, but not quite.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 4, 2023 1:30 pm

Fluorescent hair is not a statement , it is a cry for help.

Chris
Chris
August 4, 2023 1:30 pm

Maybe Trans-ticks. Sort of agree, but not quite.

On the Swan Coastal Plain, Kangaroo Ticks uptick YOU!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 1:31 pm

Re the Rinehart shitshow

I know a bloke wot knows a bloke, who says that “word on the Terrace” is that certain of the “kiddies” have a fairly staggering sense of self entitlement.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 1:35 pm

I’d rather be in the BC lounge than the Chairman’s. If the latter is full of pollies, I’d risk causing a public fracas and ruin my trip. My one and only brush with Alexander Downer made me want to flatten him.

I could have gotten away with it. They won’t throw you out of a plane at 30,000 feet…will they?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 4, 2023 1:35 pm

OK, said my piece, and no-one need worry about it further. The hurts inflicted are pretty obvious I would think, and maybe that’s a wake up call not to inflict them on others.

We are off now to see Oppenheimer, Gold Class with a late lunch included, as Hairy feels if he’s trapped for three hours he may as well have a drink to hand as well.

We don’t go to the movies very often, it’s mostly me with my girlfriends.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 4, 2023 1:37 pm

We used to go to the first class lounge quite a bit when Hairy was working and travel came with it, plus the lounge privileges.

It was pretty much a replica of the ordinary business class lounge.

Full of more poseurs though. Not us I hope.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 1:37 pm

Newman gets a week of classes from an ambassador promoting an Indigenous Yoga program
Xander Sapsworth-CollisNorth West Telegraph
Fri, 4 August 2023 11:01AM

Newman got a visit this week from an ambassador promoting an Indigenous yoga program that aims to build self confidence and cultural awareness.

Deadly Minds is an Aboriginal-designed and Aboriginal-led yoga program that focuses on the emotional and social well-being of Indigenous people.

This year’s program will run from October 9 to 13 in the Pilbara, and program ambassador Heidi Mippy, who graduated from the program last year, was in Newman from July 24 to 28 explaining to the community and service providers what the initiative is about.

johanna
johanna
August 4, 2023 1:38 pm

Lizzie emulates the Bourbons once again:

‘ A woman less blooded in the fight against the left and the many injustices of my youth would have given up long ago against such a barrage of hate, based on false accusations by a stalker. I have no hesitation in saying that if I get similar treatment again, I will once more fill this site with my objections to it regardless of the opinions regarding ‘me, me, me’ or ‘precious petal’ … ‘

and on it goes.

I must say, ‘a woman less blooded in the fight against the left’ caught my attention.

Perhaps Lizzie could share with us the fights with the left where her blood was drawn. She sees herself as Boudicca, apparently.

As usual with her dramatic assertions of which she is the star, unsupported by fact, don’t hold your breath.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 4, 2023 1:39 pm

Up the ante, Malcolm. They are bio-weapons, not “vaccines”. That makes the EUA obsolete.

I just want to … [ self censored ] It does involve a size 11 steel cap boot for those two blokes.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 4, 2023 1:41 pm

It sounds like m0nty has a point about the Kushner Saudi cash.
Via NY Post:

Kushner’s firm Affinity Partners made the deal shortly after President Donald Trump left office, despite a Saudi Public Investment Fund review panel’s concerns about “inexperience” and a due diligence review that was “unsatisfactory in all aspects,” according to minutes of a June meeting reported by the New York Times.

Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman leads the fund’s board, which overruled the skeptics. A letter written by fund staff to a board member who dissented cited “aims to form a strategic relationship with the Affinity Partners Fund and its founder, Jared Kushner” in going ahead with the deal, according to the report.

The only gloss one can put on this is that at least Kushner & Co had the etiquette to wait until the Orange Devolution before actually picking up the cashola. A difference of optics.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 4, 2023 1:41 pm

Now that the dust is settling around the Sofronoff Report, it seems that far from playing the judge and jury like a Stradivarius, Dumbgeld was himself being played like a Stradivarius by some or all of the following:

Exactly!

In fact, Drummkopf waa the victim!

And there is only one way to treat a victim: you promote them to compensate for the way other people made them fail!

Man is set to fall all the way to Chief Executive of the ACT (or whatever they call the position).

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 1:43 pm

I’ve already said I don’t uptick personal attacks. What others do is entirely up to them.

As a public blog anyone can saunter in, uptick what they want, and saunter out again. They don’t need to be registered commenters to do so. Most of us have been on the receiving end of casual and often unfair criticism, sometimes based on a misreading of what was said. It says more about the comprehension skills of the reader and frother rather than the commenter. I don’t like being told I’m stupid and disgusting. Who does?

These are the risks of the internet.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 1:44 pm

Maybe Trans-ticks

But enough about Monty…

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 1:47 pm

You know, if it’s a Trump vs Hiden election, the GOP voter turnout could approach closer to 100%. Not kidding. This is becoming really people even for folks who may not like Trump.

The regular turnout is around 60% and you can near enough spread it evenly.

I haven’t worked out the total but the difference could be so lopsided even the cheating wouldn’t help the turnout.

Also, if Trump begins to sound sympathetic to the plight of young black American males and the crim justice system by saying he’s personally experienced the injustice, he could even win the black vote.

But Hiden has to run and I think he’ll drop out for “health reasons”.

If it’s Trump/ Hiden it won’t even be close.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 4, 2023 1:49 pm

I have been to Chairmans lounge in Qantas a couple of times. Novelty at first. Ordering high end meals…before boarding a flight to get another meal. I do not see the point.

However it is a major leap up from the standard lounges …especially when several flights are delayed …which is frequent. Staff are friendly enough however the feeling you are only one step up from being treated like cattle. Cattle plus should be the moniker.

Rabz
August 4, 2023 1:52 pm

My boss used to get me into the Chairman’s Lounge quite often if I was travelling with him. My only memories of it include – a slighter higher standard of nibbles, slightly more comfortable chairs and less riff raff (err, apart from myself).

Overrated doesn’t even come close to describing it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 4, 2023 1:52 pm
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 1:54 pm

Leaking of report into conduct of Higgins case slammed

“The ACT government is disappointed that the Sofronoff board of inquiry report has been released to select media outlets. The release of information about the inquiry outside of the government procedures has affected the inquiry process and harmed people involved.”

People involved, harmed:

– Shane Drumgold: self-immolation;
– Shane Rattenbury: for calling the Sofronoff Inquiry believing it was going to embarrass the Liberals because “political interference”;
– Shane Rattenbury: for being asleep at the wheel as Drumgold’s relations with the AFP fell in a hole;
– Andrew Barr: for heading the Executive that appointed Drumgold;
– Andrew Barr: for appointing Rattenbury as Attorney General and then trusting him;
– Brinny: for being re-outed as a porky teller after her evidence in court and having a Moller file about her general sketchiness;
– Mean Girls: for flinging brimming buckets of OPM at Brinny because of terrible things done by Liberal Ministers and staffers. No really;

People involved, not harmed:

– Bruce Lehrmann: gifted multi-million compo opportunity;
– Linda Reynolds: shown to be truthful in evidence, not to have improperly impacted the trial, and to have handled Brinny appropriately as Minister;
– Brown: not guilty of oppressing Brinny.
– AFP: shown to have done a decent job of impartial investigation;

On balance, one can see why the ACT Government might be disappointed.

Bushkid
Bushkid
August 4, 2023 1:55 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Aug 4, 2023 1:15 PM

Good grief!! Even in the absence of the option for ticks, you still manage to obsess about them.

LOL

Rabz
August 4, 2023 1:57 pm

it was the NSW Right, Baldwin was part of the NSW Left

There’s a hint there as to who gave Domican the green light to go all “eccy thoomp” on Baldwin’s ass*.

*No, not the latter’s donkey. Think Marsellus in Pulp Fiction during the dénouement of the Pawn Shop imbroglio.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 1:59 pm

We paid for six hours in one of those private lounges at Heathrow during a looooong layover just over a week ago.

It was particularly horrible, but nothing as horrible as Terminal 5 itself. You just have to suck it up and deal. I refused to eat there – slop and rice. Our PE tix kept us out of the regular airline lounge and the AMEX was only available in Oz.

The nicest one so far is Sakura FC in Japan (as it would be – they know all about spoiling people there). Air France at CDG wasn’t bad either. Definitely a better breakfast than that offered in the airport hotel.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 2:02 pm

Boambee John

Aug 4, 2023 1:06 PM

Now that the dust is settling around the Sofronoff Report, it seems that far from playing the judge and jury like a Stradivarius, Dumbgeld was himself being played like a Stradivarius by some or all of the following:

The trouble is, he can’t squeal that “the big boys made me do it”, because that confirms he will do time for perverting the course of justice.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 4, 2023 2:04 pm

I despise what the medical profession has become.

Me too. If its any consolation, I committed sepuku to atone over 18 months ago.

I note, however, a groundswell of rational, intelligent citizens have been awakened to the excesses of the last few decades by the excesses of the last few years. I was recently told, for example, by a retired supreme court judge: ‘I will never enter a hospital again’.

They might just have killed the golden goose here – which means, like all totalitarian plans, there will be increasing resistance, countered by increasing repression, until the public revolt.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 2:04 pm

Faustus, it’s always embarrassing for liars when the truth finally comes out. The media is not a friend of the truth, regardless of all their posturing.

They are partisan. This latest simply highlights how grotesquely partisan they are. Yet still people will believe Brinnie because ladyparts. It’s ridiculous.

Frank
Frank
August 4, 2023 2:06 pm

Fluorescent hair is not a statement , it is a cry for help.

If it’s what you got to do to get laid these days then so be it.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 2:07 pm

I can’t be like that judge, I’m afraid. I love DIY, but not DIY knee replacement. 😀

Cassie of Sydney
August 4, 2023 2:08 pm

“They are partisan. This latest simply highlights how grotesquely partisan they are. Yet still people will believe Brinnie because ladyparts. It’s ridiculous.”

You’re right, it is totally partisan…however I have a strong feeling that those of us with “ladyparts” have zero sympathy for Brinnie.

Rabz
August 4, 2023 2:08 pm

I nearly regurgitated my steel-cut oats this morning when I saw Leak’s cartoon of Luigi the Unbelievable in a crop-top

The greying y-fronts only added to the horror …

Rabz
August 4, 2023 2:11 pm

I will never enter a hospital again

Agreed. ‘orrible places.

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2023 2:11 pm

We paid for six hours in one of those private lounges at Heathrow during a looooong layover just over a week ago.

Years ago by a stroke of good fortune with business travel air fares, I and the family had a number of UK stopovers where we could use the First Class Lounge at Theifrow. It was very salubrious then. Great menu, private showers with best of toiletries, very comfortable relaxing spaces. Most enjoyable. FC to Oz then (early 2010’s) on BA was exceptionally noice.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 2:13 pm

Treaty process ‘is underway’: Thomas Mayo
Tricia Rivera
Tricia Rivera

Prominent Yes campaigner Thomas Mayo says the implementation of treaty is already underway across the nation, echoing sentiments from Anthony Albanese and Labor ministers.

“Well treaty’s already underway and with bipartisanship in Queensland, the process begun with bipartisanship. Tasmania, a Liberal state, has begun treaty,” he told Sky News on Friday.

“And we know from both Indigenous and non-Indigenous experts that they’re going to take 30 to 40 years, many decades.

“This referendum is about voice. It’s about us being able to help to shape policies and laws to see a turnaround in the widening gap.”

Mr Mayo shrugged off jabs exchanged between the Prime Minister and Peter Dutton regarding the voice.

“I mean, what happens in Canberra is politics and people are gonna throw rocks across the different sides of parliament and all that sort of stuff,” he said.

“But what is important is that we’re having these discussions about what this is, and this is about simply recognising Indigenous people by giving us a say about decisions that are made about us.”

Alamak!
August 4, 2023 2:14 pm

These are the risks of the internet.

I think up/down ticks are fine and part of the open, free discussion we are (still) allowed to have in this country.

Anyone who vehemently rejects this might want to question whether a private blog or perhaps email-only subscription could better handle their needs for attention sans opprobrium from the internet cheap seats.

Rabz
August 4, 2023 2:15 pm

Taxpayers on the hook, again, should this transpire – headline from the Oz:

EXCLUSIVE
‘Reopen all Dumgeld cases’: legal experts
The ACT clown council is under pressure to conduct an inquiry into previous cases persecuted by Shayne Dumgeld, following damning findings by the Sofronoff Inquiry.

will
will
August 4, 2023 2:17 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Aug 4, 2023 1:37 PM
We used to go to the first class lounge quite a bit when Hairy was working and travel came with it, plus the lounge privileges.

I used it once, all I saw was fat suits scoffing free food.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 2:18 pm

Yes, Makka. We did FC home from LHR in 2008.

I was in a wheelchair (the other knee!) and tried to access the lounge. They were in the midst of a renno and the place was a zoo. Most disappointing, as it was another long layover.

First World Problems as the Beloved always reminds me. When he says that, my mind flies back to that first arrival in POM. Wall to wall nationals, all wanting to touch my snowy haired baby. And as for the other two redheads…

will
will
August 4, 2023 2:18 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Aug 4, 2023 1:37 PM
We used to go to the first class lounge quite a bit when Hairy was working and travel came with it, plus the lounge privileges.

got that gig once

all I saw were fat suits scoffing free food. like feeding time at the zoo

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 2:20 pm

China removes tariffs on Australian barley after breakthrough in relations between Canberra and Beijing

Rabz
August 4, 2023 2:22 pm

#RussiaisCollapsing is trending on Twatter

Another rogue warlord threatening to march on Moscow?

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 2:23 pm

I like to spare people suffering, Amalak. Others enjoy blood sports.

Dover can decide.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 2:26 pm

Alamak. Sheesh! That’s real subconscious dislike for the backwards namesake coming out there.

Cackle, cackle!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 4, 2023 2:32 pm

I paid good money for my cheap seat. I demand value for money.

Johnny Rotten
August 4, 2023 2:47 pm

Trump’s 3rd Indictment May Backfire

QUESTION: Marty, Your experience in law is well known. What is your opinion of Trump’s new indictment?

Paul

ANSWER: “Never in the entire history of the United States have we EVER witnessed such political corruption using the Department of Justice. They had tapes of Richard Nixon that would have convicted him but they did not prosecute him for fear that it was not in the best judgment for the nation. Nixon had won by the highest vote and the fact that the people caught in the break-in were actually CIA people. Nixon had a meeting with the head of the CIA and bluntly just said he knew who killed JFK.

Here we have the most desperate case against Trump which is obviously political. Here you have the president of the United States engaging in political speech and even if it is an outright lie as so many presidents have done, it cannot be a crime. As the president, he even had a fiduciary duty to question the validity of the election, as did Hillary, when he was being told by people under oath from around the country that there were problems with the election. The Biden Administration now has the burden to tear down the First Amendment for the government must now prove in this case, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the president’s speech is not protected by the first amendment. That will apply to Biden and every president until the country collapses. I would be shocked if that would be upheld by the Supreme Court even if they get the DC judge who is notoriously biased to rule that Trump had no First Amendment rights.

There was even a lawsuit filed against Congress that they refused to investigate the 2020 election when that was their fiduciary duty to do so. I would be subpoenaing all the documents behind that decision. I would bet this judge will protect all the Democrats and we may see the denial of subpoena powers with motion to the Supreme Court. I do not expect Trump to get a fair trial in Washington, DC. This will only tarnish the United States even more internationally. Foreign governments will being to think twice about hold the US government’s sovereign debt. They should switch to AAA corporate – ASAP!

Trump also had a responsibility as a United States president to raise those issues. The Biden Administration now argued that Trump’s advocacy was criminal behavior when Hillary made false claims about Putin creating RussiaGate costing taxpayers tens of millions of dollars that proved they were false allegations DELIBERATELY made up by the Democrats and they were fined for doing so. You cannot square the treatment of Hillary v Trump and pretend this is the rule of law.

The respect and trustworthiness of the United States is collapsing globally. The United States used to be the beacon of LIBERTY in the world. Those days are gone. I have been warning that the 2024 election would be the MOST corrupt in American history and that forecast made 10 years ago just shows how accurate Socrates has been long-term.

The federal government likely facilitated the events that occurred on January 6, 2021. The FBI has refused to answer questions regarding how many agents they had there. They successfully drew the public’s eye away from the election fraud that took place and portrayed Trump supporters as domestic terrorists. In the video above, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) questioned Jill Sanborn, Executive Assistant Director, National Security Branch of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing. “I can’t answer that,” Sanborn replied to every question. That, to me, is TREASON to the Constitution – the nation comes BEFORE the Deep State. This is why the United States, as we have known it, will NOT exist post-2032.

Cruz provided Sanborn with clear evidence of FBI involvement. On January 5, a man they call Ray Epps was filmed on video enticing the crowd to break into the Capitol the following day. His behavior was so questionable that the crowd began chanting, “Fed! Fed!” It was clear to them that he was not there to protest peacefully. On the day of the Capitol “siege,” Epps is filmed talking to another man before they begin removing the barricades. The men began encouraging others to join them.

On January 8, the FBI released pictures of the men removing the barricade and asking for any information leading to their arrests. Yet, the same image was later posted with Epps photoshopped out of the picture. Again, Sanborn refused to answer why this photo was altered. Sanborn refused to say whether Epps was an FBI agent. Her silence should tell us all we need to know. This is why the public has lost all trust in the government.

The attorney for Capitol Hill protest participant Ray Epps, former FBI agent himself John Blischak, told The Epoch Times on Jan. 12 that his client has been interviewed by federal law enforcers and “unequivocally he is not an FBI informant.” That is very narrow. That does not say he was not working for the FBI for money, nor was he an agent. An informant is someone who rats other people out willingly. The strange thing is that while everyone else is being criminally charged, they dropped all charges against Epps.

The Biden Administration is absolutely so afraid of Trump ending the careers of the Neocons and shutting down World War III that this 3rd Indictment is such a desperate attempt to use the 14th Amendment to prevent him from ever running for politics again. They made a HUGE mistake. This entire case rests upon the validity of the 2020 election. That means that Trump can now subpoena every place that was suspect in how they handled votes. They will have to prove he KNEW he really lost to create sedition. That seems to be a real stretch.

This video clearly shows people were there who were not with the protesters. Yet every person there the Feds want to prosecute as a terrorist, except their own. If I were Trump, I would now subpoena the FBI for everyone who was there on January 6th, but also all the involvement of the FBI, CIA, and NSA in rigging the election. This can be far more devastating than these desperate people realize what they have done.

Zelensky is perhaps the MOST corrupt head of state on the planet. He, too, tried to use the rule of law to imprison his opponent, the former president of Ukraine, who would also stop the war. At least there, the Ukrainian Court refused to imprison Poroshenko, realizing that such a move would only continue the outrageous corruption in Ukraine, which has now infected the Biden Administration. The IMF has pointed out that the sheer corruption in Ukraine has been the worst in the world. They wrote: “Fighting corruption is a key demand of the Ukrainian society, is crucial to achieving stronger and equitable growth, and is part of the government’s commitment under the program with the IMF.”

The Biden administration has undergone a coup, and the Neocons are in complete control of the country. They are destroying the United States, as our computer has forecast. There will NEVER be a return to normal. There is a massive migration from the North to the South. I urge DeSantis to drop out of the run for President. They will eat him for lunch and will NEVER allow him to enter the White House. Please stay right here in Florida, for we will have to build our own wall to separate from the evil empire that is consuming the country.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/trumps-3rd-indictment-may-backfire/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 4, 2023 2:59 pm

Midget irish grifter news..

I thought a leprechaun was supposed to bring you a bag of gold. Not in Australia obvs.

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 3:01 pm

I had coffee with a couple of pals this morn. One of them is the CEO of a large real estate firm focused around Toorak, Sth Yarra etc.

He told us how Sect 32 of the disclosure now has to show the tribal name of the “original owners” in the locality.

A client wanted to buy a property in order to tip it over and build a new home. His lawyer made contact with the “original owner” corp and asked the cost of obtaining approval. He was the cost would be 16k.

I don’t think an aboriginal has set foot in that burb for hundreds of years.
FMD.

I really want to get into this racket. 🙂

Robert Sewell
August 4, 2023 3:02 pm

Old Ozzie:
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-wuhan-cover-up-by-robert-f-kennedy
Interesting heads up.
Is that pre purchase link through NewCat?
About the book itself –
People want to see the data, but the data has been so compromised politically as to be useless. In fact I suggest any data of any description since the start of the last century has been compromised and needs repeating.
I’ll get a copy not for any other reason than that I don’t trust any of the governments and their agencies any more. Just their behaviour over the last decade has worn that trust so thin as to be indistinguishable from a sheet of dunny paper.

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 3:02 pm

He was told…

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 4, 2023 3:03 pm

Bernard Keane hates QANTAS too:

His stopped watch moment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 3:03 pm

Fair Shake

Aug 4, 2023 1:49 PM

I have been to Chairmans lounge in Qantas a couple of times. Novelty at first. Ordering high end meals…before boarding a flight to get another meal. I do not see the point.

Over-rated as Rabz says.
But it isn’t about the Jatz or the Champers.
It’s having that card front and centre in your wallet, or on your bag-tags which tells everyone how very, very important you are.
Sort of like gold braid for civilians.

Gilas
Gilas
August 4, 2023 3:07 pm

Dr Faustus
Aug 4, 2023 11:12 AM

Too important to leave on the OT (apologies if my HTML blows up):

cohenite
Aug 3, 2023 11:00 PM
The full uluruh statement from the arse, all 26 pages, proving, not that we needed proof, that everyone advocating the screech is a lying POS; or a useful idiot:

https://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Credlin-Editorial-PDF-2.pdf

This cannot be emphasized enough.
Everyone here should be actively contributing to the NO campaign, as discussed previously, see volunteerforno.com.au.

This should be shouted from all rooftops before 14th October.

The fact that almost 50% of Australians allegedly support this abomination shows the level of indoctrination they have been successfully subjected to by the MSM.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 4, 2023 3:08 pm

Boambee John at 1:06 PM

Now that the dust is settling around the Sofronoff Report, it seems that far from playing the judge and jury like a Stradivarius, Dumbgeld was himself being played like a Stradivarius by some or all of the following:

Mizzz Knickerless, Shiraz, the Cane Toad, the Mean Girls, and Commissioner Heidi.

Which he could have avoided entirely by doing his job properly.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 3:12 pm

Dear Mr Mayo

“But what is important is that we’re having these discussions about what this is, and this is about simply recognising Indigenous people by giving us a say about decisions that are made about us.”

If you do not have any say in Canberra “about decisions that are made” about Aboriginals, exactly what is the purpose of the many institutions there, up to and including the NIAA, which collectively cost billions each year?

And if they serve no practical purpose, should they be abolished?

Robert Sewell
August 4, 2023 3:16 pm

Billie:

Mind yo, I giuess they see every other group successfully demaning special treatment for their identity, like LGBT+++, like the Voice etc, so it lowers the entry barrier to demands to underline their differences and uniqueness.

That was precisely the same argument made when the Islamic dietary demands were made – special treatment because of ‘special’.
I doubt there is a slaughter yard that isn’t Halal certified, with the attendant jobs going to the practitioners in a monopoly situation and the non Islamic workers being frozen out of employment.
And don’t forget the fees now going in one direction only.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 4, 2023 3:18 pm

The Ukrainian Army Is Breaking — Michael Vlahos, Compact Magazine

I do so love propaganda.

Putin in trouble as Ukraine destroys Russia’s ‘most terrible weapon’ in new blitz (3 Aug)

Putin’s only frontline offensive falling apart despite 100k Russian troops and 800 tanks (3 Aug)

Mad Putin’s plan to turn Ukraine conflict into global catastrophe (3 Aug)

It goes on and on and on. These are just a few stories I saw this morning in one Pommy newspaper. Why would anyone believe Russian rubbish, it’s just as stupid as this stuff.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 3:19 pm

He told us how Sect 32 of the disclosure now has to show the tribal name of the “original owners” in the locality.

Sickening stuff.
If im to be offered the choice between sycophantly licking the ass of a bunch of Bruce Pascoes or pointing out they were a civilizational dead end and failure then number 2 it is.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 3:20 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
August 4, 2023 3:25 pm

Mayo is another Burney minion helping the NO case. He’s not alone.

Morsie
Morsie
August 4, 2023 3:28 pm

Haven’t been following the Gina Rinehart stuff but can anyone who has advise why the claims aren’t statute barred ?

Gilas
Gilas
August 4, 2023 3:32 pm

On other, less depressing news..
After my last.. ahem.. slightly critical savaging of “Everything Everywhere All at Once”, two films for recommendation: “The Whale”, with Brendan Fraser, and “The Pale Blue Eye”, with Christian Bale.

The first has a claustrophobic feel to it, all part of the plot, but beautifully acted and scripted. A beautifully-told drama.
Fraser won the Oscar for Best Actor for his effort, but the Best Movie prize went to that other abortion. Go figure!

The Pale Blue Eye is an early 19th C whoddunit at the early West Point Academy.
The desolate, cold, snow-covered backdrop added the gelid rigor-mortis feel to the macabre story. Edgar Allan Poe makes an essential appearance, central to the story, faithfully played by someone I never heard of, Harry Melling, who could pass for Poe’s real life doppelganger.
Although a Netflix movie, I couldn’t detect any aroma of putrid woke-ism in this one.

Both highly recommended: 8+/10

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2023 3:36 pm

These are just a few stories I saw this morning in one Pommy newspaper.

A wowser rag , given to P4 boobs and football gossip on the back page. Get real Bruce.

Robert Sewell
August 4, 2023 3:38 pm

Flyingduk:

My take home message – it is the (unheard) infrasound that causes the most trouble, with minimum safe distance between your dwelling and the fans being 1 mile, 2 miles if you are sensitive (eg prone to migraines or motion sickness) or in mountainous terrain.

A couple of years ago I posted a link to a site that produced an application to register infrasound on a mobile phone.
What was interesting was the sound of a tap running into a conical basin in the bathroom and at the focal point was about 85 to 90dB.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 3:40 pm

From the frollickingmoles link. Fat lot of good a voice will do, won’t it?

NT police said since July 31, officers had responded to “a series of large disturbances” involving up to 150 people from feuding family groups, some of whom were allegedly using spears, crossbows and machetes

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 3:44 pm

Gilas, I saw The Whale when I was o/s. It really got under my skin – could easily be a stage play. Fraser is terrific. He was cold shouldered by Hollyweird when he took exception to a foul drip from the Foreign Press Association grabbing him in a sexual way at a function.

He didn’t back down. Apparently it was quite okay unless you were Spacey or the “victim” was female. And the fallout – no roles.

Another Christian Bale movie – Amsterdam. Interesting story. Bale is a horribly wounded doctor repatriated after WWI.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 3:44 pm

Dr F earlier on the various levels of reputational panel-beating arising from the Sofronoff enquiry:-

People involved, harmed:

– Shane Drumgold: self-immolation

It is possible that the term “Drumgold” might enter the national lexicon in the same way “Bradbury” has.
Same, but different.
As in, “The missus was pissed off when I got home at 3:00 a.m. and, instead of letting things settle, I totally Drumgolded it and she’s kicked me out.”
Or, “The boss was looking for a scalp and, when I should have kept my head down, I went the full Drumgold and he fired me.”
Or, “Then the cops turned up and wanted to know who was driving the car. I should have shut up, but I absolutely Drumgolded it and now I’m walking everywhere.”

Robert Sewell
August 4, 2023 3:45 pm

Old Ozzie:

As Fitch becomes the second agency after S&P Global Ratings to strip its triple-A endorsement from the United States’ US$32 trillion of government debt, America’s chaotic politics are catching up with its finances.

All along, the government just continues to blame everyone else for inflation, even when inflation is caused by one thing – excessive money supply growth.
The Globalists can continue to screw the peasants and business, but only one thing can save the US economy – paying its bills and stop inflating the currency.
Do what Germany did in 1948? when Erhardt? removed all the price controls and rationing, and watch the economy adjust.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 4, 2023 3:46 pm

The Europeans offered aborigines access to our civilisation; no strings, but if you adopt our habits and customs, you get the benefits of our science and technology.

To their credit, about eighty percent of the aborigines took up the deal, and are now just Australians. A smaller number of these tried to exploit European generosity by demanding power in the system. And the rest live in wretched squalor, largely of their own making, because that’s what their culture provides.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 3:47 pm

Many…many upticks, Dr Beau.

The glaring obvious that no one wants to acknowledge.

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 3:48 pm

After a little reflection on the Bulammumba tribe’s financial jackpot, I came to a hypothesis concerning their revenue generation as as add on to my previous comment. Archimedes struck thought 🙂 with respect the Hunchback’s colossal spending, reaching billions of dollars, in diverse infrastructure projects such as roads, rail crossings, tunnels, freeways, and more.
There is a possibility of the intriguing prospect the original owners are getting a cut from all this. Is the development of new infrastructure attracting fees for the original property owners seeing it would be construed as a new build? Knowing the Hunchback, the state government might be discreetly offering fees to these original owners through contractor firms acting as intermediaries thereby not showing on the government books.
A noteworthy aspect of this approach is the potential lack of explicit disclosure in the state government’s financial records. The payments, being channeled through contractor firms, may remain off the official books, granting a level of confidentiality.
Considering the complexity of these financial transactions and their implications for tribal fees, a decent investigative journalist could unravel the truth. By delving into the agreements and arrangements with the contractor firms, they may uncover pertinent information about the Bulammumba tribe’s “revenue stream”.

If I know the Hunchback well , I wouldn’t bet against this racket. I also wonder if he’s in on some cut when he retires.

shatterzzz
August 4, 2023 3:53 pm

Some kids play with toys in the bath .. others! .. LOL!

https://ibb.co/kH6hbdn

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 3:54 pm

On the subject of airline lounges.
Back late last century I had a Golden Whinger (as members of the Ansett Golden Wing lounge were known) card.
This had reciprocal rights with whatever international airline cartel Chansett was aligned to.
We used it on a jolly around the globe and in a few lounges in the US.
I’m here to tell you they were beneath “nothin’ special” standard.
There was one in San Francisco I think which was untouched from the 1960’s and could easily have been a set for an Austin Powers movie.
Deep maroon velour, velvet and suede as far as the eye could see. The idea was to find a spot on the couches which had stains which didn’t look fresh.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 3:55 pm

Everywhere across Australia, great warriors like Pemulwuy and Jandamarra led resistance against the British. First Nations refused to acquiesce to dispossession and fought for their sovereign rights and their land.

The old timers around Derby always claimed “Jandamurra” shot a police officer dead in a dispute over payment for intimate services, provided by Mrs Jandamurra……….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 4, 2023 3:55 pm

And the rest live in wretched squalor, largely of their own making, because that’s what their culture provides.

Wot Calli said!

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2023 3:59 pm

Negative Ukraine news from NYT of all sources:

Ukrainian Troops Trained by the West Stumble in Battle
Ukraine’s army has for now set aside U.S. fighting methods and reverted to tactics it knows best.

In the first two weeks of the counteroffensive, as much as 20 percent of the weaponry Ukraine sent to the battlefield was damaged or destroyed, according to U.S. and European officials. The toll included some of the formidable Western fighting machines — tanks and armored personnel carriers — that the Ukrainians were counting on to beat back the Russians.

Gian Luca Capovin and Alexander Stronell, analysts with the British security intelligence firm Janes, said that the small-unit attack strategy “is extremely likely to result in mass casualties, equipment loss and minimal territorial gains” for Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/02/us/politics/ukraine-troops-counteroffensive-training.html

Gilas
Gilas
August 4, 2023 3:59 pm

The current lack of upticking capacity provides a rare sense of mellifluous serenity to the act of contributing to the blog.
Not a bad thing… not bad at all.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 4, 2023 4:03 pm

The full forward lined up 25 metres out and properly drumgolded it out of bounds for no score.

Albo should drumgold the Voice into ditch.

Vicki
Vicki
August 4, 2023 4:03 pm

I am led to think that at least 50 people here hate my guts and wish me ill.

Surely not, Lizzie?

I find this blog a treasure trove of informed, opinionated (in the good sense) and amusing observations. I value it as much as my morning (when in Sydney) chats and arguments with friends at our local coffee hangout.

Like friends, some of you can be blustering and sarcastic. But I love the foul banter amongst the blokes, which I have no desire to enter! Personal animosities, I guess, are as inevitable as in any other social encounter. But I would respectfully suggest that cruel comments are better left unsaid.

But thank you all for your company.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 4:05 pm

True, Gilas. It’s comforting to not know how many people here think we are complete tossers.

😀

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 4:06 pm

Langton doing a 1st class impression of a mad bag lady shouting at pigeons near the bu stop,

I can only hope shes as miserable as she looks and sounds.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/04/indigenous-voice-to-parliament-marcia-langton-accuses-no-voters-of-spreading-garbage-about-indigenous-leaders

Prominent Indigenous academic Marcia Langton has accused some no vote supporters of spreading “garbage”, personally targeting Indigenous supporters of the voice and “swarming social media with bots and AI lies”.
..
Marcia.. are the “bots and AIs” in the room with us now?

Langton, the former co-chair of the Morrison government’s Indigenous voice design advisory group, made the comments during an event she presented in Sydney on Thursday night.

She said prominent Indigenous voice supporters were being maliciously targeted by anti-voice campaigners, including politicians.

“We’re the imaginary enemy of the state and every politician comes along and plays political football with us,” she said at the event.
“They’ve played the old-fashioned fear tactics but now they’ve got all the extra post-Trumpian tactics, the Steve Bannon tactics of swamping social media with bots and AI generated Facebook lies and lies on Twitter.”

Trump, Bannon, AI, Facebook, politicians, anti-voice people… wibble wibble wibble


Langton said: “I’ve never been a member of the Communist party. I did have a very cute Communist party member boyfriend once here in Sydney.

“If you only read the ‘no case’ bots about that evil Marcia Langton, you’d be horrified. You’d run out of the room.

“Every Indigenous leader has been targeted. Megan Davis has been targeted by these nefarious Trump-like cult groups.”
….
Not a godless Commie, only rooting one.. she claims. Meanwhile..a godless mob of commies have claimed she was one of them.
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/fi/LTF/1976/76-12-23.pdf
Marcia Langton is one of the best-known activists in the Black and anti-racist movements in Australia. She initiated the Land Rights Campaign in Queensland in 1969 and was an activist in the anti-war and civil liberties movements there in the late sixties. More recently, she has been involved in the Land Rights campaign, centred in Sydney and is a director of both the Aboriginal Medical Service and the Aboriginal Housing Service in Sydney.

Langton also made a plea to the public to back the “yes” vote, claiming that because of misinformation yes supporters face an “uphill battle”.

“There needs to be a new label for the post-Trumpian world of hate,” she said. “We face an uphill battle, a really tough uphill battle to convey our simple message and we need your help.”

Stand and Deliver, your money or your life, reach for the sky, etc etc seem to be short, easily understood and get the message across ok?
….

She urged supporters of the voice to go into the community and talk to friends and family to boost the campaign’s chances of success.

“We need everybody phoning friends, handing out Yes23 materials at railway stations bus stops, classrooms,” she said.
….
Because nothing keeps friends like insisting they follow your own obsessions. As i was telling my intensely curated group of fellow D&D aficionados yesterday.

“I want everybody to wake up after the referendum and feel proud to be Australian … to know that we’ve done that extra step … and empowered Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people as the first peoples to have a say in our own futures.”
The former co-chair of the former federal government’s Indigenous voice design advisory group was scathing of some in the media, saying there was misreporting and a lack of understanding around the Uluru Statement from the Heart and its call for voice, treaty and truth.

I hope you go o sleep and wake up more consumed by rage and bile than Judas, you withered dugged old racist turd.

“It’s been misreported by the media. The media use it for the usual game of ‘oh, look at what the Aborigines are doing now, isn’t it shocking?’” she said.

Thats not how you spell “grifters”.
….
“They consistently miss that the Uluru Statement from the Heart and all of our work is an invitation to the nation to walk with us. It’s an invitation from us, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people. It’s not from the government.”

But it requires insertion into the constitution, the very seat of government, to accept this “invitation”, what a conundrum.
A turducken of an invitation, wrapped in a constitutional change, inserted into a truth telling commission wrapped up with some treaties leading to it being buried in lawfare forever with a solid core of other peoples money at its heart.


Initial surveys showed support for the voice at above 50% in most jurisdictions, but, since then, national polls have trended downwards.

She said that, even if the vote failed, she wanted it to be legislated: “What will the future look like if we win this referendum? I hope that even, if we don’t, the government should legislate something like what we recommended.
….
If our demands are not met by persuading people we insist our demands are implemented anyway – such a great approach to unifying everyone.

“We came up with a way to empower Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people to close the gap, to have agency in their lives and have dignity.”

$90,000,000 dollars a day, I think there is a strong case to be made that “agency = unaccountability in some of these peoples minds.

Langton said she wanted the nation to be unified through the referendum: “I hope we face a unified Australia and empowered Indigenous people with a practical way to become engaged in giving advice on how to close the gap.
..
And if I dont get unity I demand its done anyway!!!

“That’s recognised around the world as having decent standards for all its citizens and ending the colonial exclusion of Indigenous people from the fabric of the nation.”

The millionaire said, living with her 6 figure income, ensconced as “perfesser” and appointed to numerous boards and other cosy little positions.
….
The evening closed with the audience reading out the Uluru Statement from the Heart.


Holy texts status, unlocked.

How unhinged is Langton??
Heres her on the intervention..
https://www.cpaml.org/post4.php?id=1542352246&catitem1=People%27s%20Issues&catid1=19
She told anti-Intervention activist and Tangentyere Council member Barbara Shaw, from Mount Nancy Town Camp in Alice Springs, “It’s a situation of mass suicide now. There’s nothing that a small group like yourselves can do.”

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 4:07 pm

All along, the government just continues to blame everyone else for inflation, even when inflation is caused by one thing – excessive money supply growth.
The Globalists can continue to screw the peasants and business, but only one thing can save the US economy – paying its bills and stop inflating the currency.
Do what Germany did in 1948? when Erhardt? removed all the price controls and rationing, and watch the economy adjust.

Turtlehead’s become quite the little economist now we see. Incredibly multi-talented, from the self-appointed community organizer for iodine distribution throughout the neighborhood and beyond during the next nuclear war in rural Queensland to now being a globally recognized expert on inflation. Just wow. Nobel on the way.

Vicki
Vicki
August 4, 2023 4:08 pm

The Europeans offered aborigines access to our civilisation; no strings, but if you adopt our habits and customs, you get the benefits of our science and technology.

To their credit, about eighty percent of the aborigines took up the deal, and are now just Australians. A smaller number of these tried to exploit European generosity by demanding power in the system. And the rest live in wretched squalor, largely of their own making, because that’s what their culture provides.

One of the most sensible conclusions in respect to the whinging. Well done Dr. BeauGan.

Gilas
Gilas
August 4, 2023 4:11 pm

calli
Aug 4, 2023 3:44 PM

I saw The Whale when I was o/s. It really got under my skin – could easily be a stage play. Fraser is terrific.

His depiction of the travails of morbid obesity was 100% perfect!

He didn’t back down. Apparently it was quite okay unless you were Spacey or the “victim” was female. And the fallout – no roles.

A solid-gold pack of shallow, venal hypocrites. But we knew that.

Another Christian Bale movie – Amsterdam. Interesting story. Bale is a horribly wounded doctor repatriated after WWI.

Humongous minds think alike. It is next on my list.

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 4:12 pm

I want everybody to wake up after the referendum and feel proud to be Australian

If the “No” vote gets up, Marcia, yes indeedy. I will be a very Proud Port Stephens Woman.

You meet with the Communists, you sleep with the Communists…I think we get the picture. You smoked but you never inhaled. Until you did.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 4:13 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Aug 4, 2023 3:55 PM
Everywhere across Australia, great warriors like Pemulwuy and Jandamarra led resistance against the British. First Nations refused to acquiesce to dispossession and fought for their sovereign rights and their land.

The old timers around Derby always claimed “Jandamurra” shot a police officer dead in a dispute over payment for intimate services, provided by Mrs Jandamurra……….

Ion Idriess wrote a book, Outlaws of the Leopolds, which featured Jandamarra, aka Pigeon. Apparently he liked to cut the kidney fat from the still living bodies of his enemies, and eat it before their dying eyes. He also liked fresh cattle, a “traditional” indigenous meal.

Fresh suet, yum!

PS, his resistance started around a century later. Not one to rush into things, young Pigeon.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 4, 2023 4:13 pm

A wowser rag , given to P4 boobs and football gossip on the back page. Get real Bruce.

Wow, Makka, that’s an epic swing and a miss. You hilariously and completely didn’t get my point at all.

This crud is coming from both sides. It bemuses me that so many righties are sceptical of a lot of stuff but swallow Russian propaganda like lollies. No different from the lefties who do the same with Ukrainian propaganda. It’s not one side is rubbish and the other golden, or vice versa, it’s BOTH sides that are rubbish. Sheesh.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 4, 2023 4:15 pm

Gilas
Aug 4, 2023 3:59 PM
The current lack of upticking capacity provides a rare sense of mellifluous serenity to the act of contributing to the blog.
Not a bad thing… not bad at all.

Many upticks (runs away).

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
August 4, 2023 4:15 pm

Two things I have enjoyed about the Drumgold debacle…

1. If Drumgold and Wilko hadn’t off enabled/delivered the Logie speech which led to a delayed trial, Team Lehrman would not have had time to mount a strong defence. Lehrman would likely have been found guilty in a Canberra show trial. D & W’s own hurbis let the conviction get away.

2. It was Drumgold’s complaint and request for an inquiry into the AFP which has led to his own skewering. He must really be as dumb as the proverbial dog-shyte.

However I still want to know the why? Why did Drumgold put his position at such risk to go after Lehrman in such a way? Was he really that incompetent… or… was there a higher position on offer in the left wing halls of power?

calli
calli
August 4, 2023 4:16 pm

I think it was his portrayal of desperate, unresolved and unresolvable grief that got me, Gilas. The eating was a symptom.

He was constantly saying “I’m sorry” for things he couldn’t help and didn’t do, including his struggles with a faith that he just couldn’t muster.

Powerful, insightful stuff.

shatterzzz
August 4, 2023 4:17 pm

Haven’t been following the Gina Rinehart stuff but can anyone who has advise why the claims aren’t statute barred ?

Isn’t it a “private” civil case all about money ? .. what rich folk do to pass the time between ski-ing trips so various “legal” statutes, I’m guessing here , wouldn’t apply ..

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
August 4, 2023 4:18 pm

DrBeauGan
Aug 4, 2023 3:46 PM
The Europeans offered aborigines access to our civilisation; no strings, but if you adopt our habits and customs, you get the benefits of our science and technology.

To their credit, about eighty percent of the aborigines took up the deal, and are now just Australians. A smaller number of these tried to exploit European generosity by demanding power in the system. And the rest live in wretched squalor, largely of their own making, because that’s what their culture provides.
Well said. They wear our shoes, gotta pay for them.
Parallel case with the Hancock kerfuffle, to share in the profits, the costs must also be taken into consideration. Gina has worn the risk and the costs for years, these other claimants want to swoop in and take a share of the profits without experiencing any of the downside.
Saw Oppenheimer yesterday, found it a marathon. Doubt anyone under sixty will understand the context and will not recognise the many many scientific names dropped, mores the pity. I couldn’t help reflecting, when they showed the bomb going off ( hope I haven’t ruined it for anyone here, but you have to have assumed a big bomb explosion at some point!), why the bloody hell are we farting around with wind and water and solar panels, when we have NUCLEAR at our disposal. Great film and as someone here said earlier, I think I need to see it again, so rich. Great acting.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 4:18 pm

There is a possibility of the intriguing prospect the original owners are getting a cut from all this.

JC

Funnily enough my first thought was similar.

I was thinking along the sale of artworks model, where the original artist receives a cut every time a piece is resold.

Under the Resale Royalty Scheme, visual artists and other right-holders are entitled to 5% of the sale price of eligible artworks resold commercially for $1,000 or more.

I could definitely see them doing some stunt like that.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 4, 2023 4:19 pm

Sloppy old semi-bleck communists won’t convince too many punters about the screech.

Best advocate for NO ever.

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2023 4:21 pm

Wow, Makka, that’s an epic swing and a miss. You hilariously and completely didn’t get my point at all.

This crud is coming from both sides.

No Bruce. It was direct hit. You put up shit, it gets shot down.

Of course propaganda comes from both sides. But what is posted on here is in question. The shit you put up coming from that rag the Express deserves all the derision it gets. Because it’s a rubbish rag and not worthy of use for any comparison. But you know that and offer it up as comparable to dover’s article. Completely disingenuous.

Gilas
Gilas
August 4, 2023 4:23 pm

calli
Aug 4, 2023 4:05 PM

It’s comforting to not know how many people here think we are complete tossers.

For that to matter, one should at least give half a damn.
I would struggle to achieve that.
But I already know that we are all special (Ed-Bot and Montz excepted..) anyway.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 4:29 pm

Its only about a voice, shut up racists.
Its only about a voice and the representative body, shut up racists
Its only about a voice and the representative body and treatys…

Looks like operation ” Say as little as possible and try and slide it through on the “vibe” ” has been unsuccessful.

Uluru Dialogue co-chair Pat Anderson admitted on ABC’s Afternoon Briefing that the entrance of treaty in the voice referendum debate had made it confusing for Australians, but said it was part of the discussion.

I think it is getting really confusing for the ordinary Australian out there. It is a complicated debate. We have not had the debate about a treaty but it is as part of the Uluru Statement voice, treaty, truth.

It will happen those discussions, but we have not had the conversation about how this is all going to work for us. And of course as we are speaking, there are a whole lot of treaty negotiations happening in the various states.

So to say we are not having that discussion, we are in fact are.

She said Victoria, NT, Queensland, NSW and Tasmania were all having treaty talks.

There is lots of discussion and talk about treaty running at the same time. But the first thing is, what we really need, is a referendum that says yes. And it will show us that the Australian people have taken up the invitation to walk with us on a journey.

And that is the most important outcome and we are all working as much as we can, those of us who agree with this constitutional reform and its necessity, that will continue over the next few weeks, we think.

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 4:30 pm

I could definitely see them doing some stunt like that.

Mole, this is 100% certain, I reckon. The contractors would too be on the scam. 🙂

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 4:32 pm

JC at 3:01.
You mention two things:-
1. Including the “original owners” on the S32;
2. Ticket clipping to get Fursnayshens clearance to build.
Are these (particularly #2) law? If so, Victoria has introduced the WA heritage laws by stealth, and maybe even more far-reaching than WA (if the person’s block is under 1100 sqr mtrs).
Or is this some bullshit “best practice” cooked up by the Law Institute and RESI to “do the right thing”?
Oh, and pick up some fees on the way through for themselves.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 4:33 pm

JC
All it needs is a skim of the cream and everyone would line up for a dose of “reconciliation” straight from the homeowners jugular.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 4, 2023 4:34 pm

A client wanted to buy a property in order to tip it over and build a new home. His lawyer made contact with the “original owner” corp and asked the cost of obtaining approval. He was the cost would be 16k.

The permit holder of an exploration project I’m working on at the moment had the choice of excluding a small area in the exploration permit that was subject to native title.

The NT areas had no exploration value and could easily have been excluded, but nevertheless the permit holder decided to follow the ‘expedited process’ and engage with the local traditionals – the rationale being to establish a relationship and smooth the ‘higher use’ path if a discovery was made.

Normally, at the low impact exploration stage, this sort of agreement is straightforward and covers notification of intended entry onto NT areas, and who gets paid for cultural clearance if needed. Plus some sort of ‘donation’ to a local indig cause.

In this case, after first contact, my clients were presented with a solicitor’s letter requiring an upfront $200,000 for legals, incidentals, and consideration by the traditional owners.

It turned out not to be a typo, so the NT areas have been dropped. Any ILUA down the track will be done at 20 paces.

This is the future.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 4, 2023 4:36 pm

Btw I can’t respond quickly to anyone replying to comments I’ve made: the blog doesn’t want to update for something like an hour, no matter what I do. Nothing I’ve tried works except patience. Eventually it does show recent comments but only after a long wait. Maybe it’s a Brave thing, but cache clearing and etc doesn’t help.

Makka
Makka
August 4, 2023 4:37 pm

Uluru Dialogue co-chair Pat Anderson admitted on ABC’s Afternoon Briefing that the entrance of treaty in the voice referendum debate had made it confusing for Australians, but said it was part of the discussion.

On the contrary Pat, “treaty” is the objective and now it’s out in the open Australian’s are now not so confused and increasingly don’t like it. Knowing the underhanded intent is to divert untold Billions of future taxpayer dollars into the Abo Industry in perpetuity will need some selling.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 4:37 pm

If only they had a voice…

The PM arrived at the Garma site on Friday and his first stop was to meet with the Dilak council, the senior cultural leaders of 13 clan groups in the region.

Dilak is a formal decision-making body based on the clan leadership structure of the Miwatj region of north-east Arnhem Land, grounded in Yolngu law and formally recognised by government.

An example of how a regional voice to government might operate, the Dilak council meets regularly to set regional priorities and policies with the Commonwealth and Territory governments on health, housing, education and economic development.

Hows that working for them??

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 4:37 pm

thefrollickingmole

Aug 4, 2023 3:20 PM

If only then had a voice…

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-04/nt-police-hospital-violence-outbreak-groote-eylandt/102688984

I know of someone who lives in NT who is in the final phases of palliative care.
Won’t go near the hospital for that very reason.

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 4:39 pm

Mole, Sanchez.

If the Hunchback gets caught with this, he’ll “make no apologies”. When a Liar Party idiot is caught on something the “I make no apologies” is the dead giveaway.

Sancho Panzer
Aug 4, 2023 4:32 PM

JC at 3:01.
You mention two things:-
1. Including the “original owners” on the S32;
2. Ticket clipping to get Fursnayshens clearance to build.

Sanchez, I never know this bullshit until this morning. He showed us an example of this on a listing on his Iphone. Now I didn’t explore the lot size , so I can’t comment about that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 4, 2023 4:39 pm

What I mean is, the Family Fued will now continue in the waiting rooms and corridors of the hospital, making it unbearable for everyone else.

JC
JC
August 4, 2023 4:41 pm

thefrollickingmole
Aug 4, 2023 4:33 PM

JC
All it needs is a skim of the cream and everyone would line up for a dose of “reconciliation” straight from the homeowners jugular.

Seriously, anyone who has long lineage back to say the convict days should refer to themselves as aboriginal in some way and get in on the act. Sometimes, to completely break up some leftwing crap, you have to join it.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 4, 2023 4:50 pm

Seriously, anyone who has long lineage back to say the convict days should refer to themselves as aboriginal in some way and get in on the act.

My folks sent out their manservant on the 1st fleet to survey and pick some suitable locations.
Would he count?

Gilas
Gilas
August 4, 2023 4:50 pm

And it will show us that the Australian people have taken up the invitation to walk with us on a journey.

One’s gotta hand it to these scammers.
The language used is so perfect, it will instantly appeal to a large section of the sheeples, just because of the feelz.
Hiding massive grift, racism and division behind such phrases will fool millions of the indoctrinated brain-dead, who unfortunately also vote.

I’d love to be in a room with this putrid slag, asking appropriate questions to clarify the meaning of her weasel-Marxist-Commo-Alinsky wordings.
She’d be attempting to strangle me across the table within minutes..
’tis but a dream..
What any inquisitive, ethical journalist should do, but won’t.

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