Open Thread – Mon 14 Aug 2023


An Iron Forge, Joseph Wright of Derby, 1772

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OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 12:03 pm

Backwards Progress in Sydney

Attending Penfolds KALIMNA DINNER

TUESDAY AUGUST 15

Join Penfolds Winemaker, Matt Woo, to celebrate the release of The Penfolds Collection 2023 and engage in an informative Q&A throughout the night. Enjoy canapés and a four-course meal paired with Collection highlights such as, Yattarna, Bin 389 Cabernet Shiraz, 2019 Grange and more. This event is a Kalimna Club exclusive.

6HEAD, THE ROCKS

Wheras previuosly Buses went down George Street to Dawes Point and you could get off at Mercentile Hotel & walk down through the building opposite now no public transport in Rocks to Dawes Point – so probably Many Ferry in and B1 Bus Back

PS The TRANSCEND BY PENFOLDS

MULTIPLE SESSIONS, AUGUST 3 – 6

Discover a reimagined wine tasting experience this August in Sydney. This intimate tasting will showcase new release wines from the Penfolds Collection 2023 – including wines from Australia, France and California, and a taste of 2019 Grange.?

This highly immersive experience will combine a soundscape, storytelling, visuals and lighting, to bring to life the Collection in a new and exciting way.?

Was amazing value with 15% Discount

As Kalimna Silver Member 15% Discount and cost $97.50

2 Glasses of Penfolds Champagne (yes French – a Chanpagne Small Producer who sells Penfolds in France has joined with them to produce Penfolds Champagne)

Then sound and light presentation of Penfolds 2023 Collection

– Glass of Eden Valley Bin 51 Riesling 2023 – Really Nice
– Glass of Reserve Bin A Adelaide Hills Chardonnay 2022 – preferred Riesling
– Bin 23 Pinot Noir – prefer Serrat Pinot Noir
– Glass Bin 28 Shiraz 2022 – my favourite – great
– Glass French FWT 585 Cabernet Sauvignon Merlot Petit Verdot 2020
– Glass Californian Bin 704 Cabernet Sauvignon 2020 (note brother of Bin 407)
– Glass Bin 389 2021 Cabernet Shiraz – I thought Better than Grange to follow, although winemaker said Grange would age well
– Glass Grange Shiraz 2019 (at $1,000 a bottle)
and to finish

2 Glasses of Penfolds Bin 707 Cabernet Sauvignon – really nice but pricey at $800

So Good value

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 12:04 pm

Cassie, you dont go to Tamarama to swim.”

No Bern, I like Bronte. Years ago I used to go to Glamarama.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 12:05 pm

Haha, Glamarama.
Makes the showiness of Bondi look pedestrian.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 12:08 pm

One of the nicer day trips out of Sydney for the beach is down to Thirroul.
Pleasant regardless of what you want at a beach.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 14, 2023 12:09 pm

Jim Cairns squeeze, Junie.

Horribly, publicly, breastfeeding her 5-year old at the Kambah Village shops.

Some things you can’t unsee.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 14, 2023 12:11 pm

Maybe someone’s put this up over the last few days. But if not, it’s work a look.

Jimmy Dore in discussion with Brett Weinstein on covid and other things – 40 mins

https://rumble.com/v35nf3w-video-bret-weinstein-warned-us-covid-insanity-was-coming.html

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 12:12 pm

Old Ozzie, that is the most boring wine list I have seen in ages.

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 12:13 pm

So, Qantarse is going full throttle spruiking da Voice.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 12:15 pm

What a time to be alive.
The DOJ is trying to manufacture a way to not charge Hunter Biden with anything of consequence.
At the same time, the DOJ has jailed people who did not even go up the steps of the Capitol building.
Literally didn’t leave the grass 100m away.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 14, 2023 12:16 pm

OldOzzie
Aug 14, 2023 9:47 AM
POLICE STATE

Oz, here’s an uptick for that.

Pogria
Pogria
August 14, 2023 12:19 pm

Here is a great story at Breitbart. Fat, entitled coloured chick driving a pink Lexus believes she should be able to eat free at Taco stands in LA. Do watch the video for the story, it’s great.

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023/08/11/video-taco-tantrum-woman-accused-of-punching-l-a-food-vendor-arrested/

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 12:20 pm

Mung beans, what can’t they do?

Researchers create 3D-printed vegan seafood (Phys.org, 13 Aug)

Now, researchers present a new approach for creating desirable vegan seafood mimics that taste good, while maintaining the healthful profile of real fish. They 3D-printed an ink made from microalgae protein and mung bean protein, and their proof-of-concept calamari rings can even be air-fried for a quick, tasty snack.

“We printed salmon filets with protein from red lentils because of the protein’s color, and we’ve printed shrimp,” says Huang. “Now, we wanted to print something else interesting with the potential for commercialization—calamari rings.”

We’re saved! I have to say that the photo doesn’t look, um, appetizing. I think I’d prefer bugs.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 12:20 pm

‘He doesn’t even drink Coca-Cola or anything like that. It’s just plain, straightforward spring water.’

This preserving the purity of his essence.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 12:21 pm

feelthebern
Aug 14, 2023 12:12 PM

Old Ozzie, that is the most boring wine list I have seen in ages.

To Each, His Own

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 12:21 pm

Ah yes the 3D printed piece of vegan dogshit.

Yummers!

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 12:23 pm

Old Ozzie, that is the most boring wine list I have seen in ages.

Code for “I am willing to drink very expensive and very cheap wine”.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 12:23 pm

If you went back through everyone that was a guest at Gitmo, you have to wonder how many of them were genuine threats.
Once due process is binned, it doesn’t matter who the targets are.
It’s just wrong.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 12:23 pm

So, Qantarse is going full throttle spruiking da Voice.

Here you go Cassie…

‘Never fly this airline again’: Qantas savaged by Aussies over Voice campaign (Sky News mainpage headline, 14 Aug)

Qantas’ PR splash to kick off its campaign for the Voice is off to a rocky start with Australians slamming the national carrier for taking a position on the debate.

You have to wonder when companies like the Flying Rat will finally twig that alienating half their potential customer base is not a good idea.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 12:24 pm

So, Qantarse is going full throttle spruiking da Voice.

They play nothing but Voice propaganda in Big W.

I don’t think it is having the intended effect they desire.

bons
bons
August 14, 2023 12:24 pm

And all it cost Albanese was to corruptly restrict airline competition.
History will expose this thug for what he really is.
Oh, and did I mention that the Leprechaun Poove is Irish. Not that I’m bigoted against the Irish mind you.

Johnny Rotten
August 14, 2023 12:24 pm

My wife said, ‘Take me in your arms and whisper something soft and sweet.’ I said, ‘chocolate fudge.’

– Tommy Cooper

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 12:26 pm

Dot, take your bird to Arthur in Surry Hills & get the emerging wine pairing.
You’ll get serious bronwnie points.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 14, 2023 12:31 pm

PM says Voice is ‘not my product’ and not about politics

So, “not my product“.

The “starter’s gun” has been fired for the march toward Constitutional recognition for Indigenous Australians after P?rime Minister Anthony Albanese revealed the wording of the upcoming referendum question on the Voice to parliament.

Albanese, standing alongside the Referendum Working Group, said the question would be: “A Proposed Law: To alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice. Do you approve this proposed alteration?”

Albanese teared up at times as he presented the referendum question and the principles of the Voice to a packed media room.?

I just happened to be standing there at this Press Conference, and these people came and made me say stuff I din’t understand…

Nor about politics? Albanese at the NSW ALP Conference 2022.

I acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which we meet, I pay my respects to elders past, present and emerging.

And on behalf of the Australian Labor Government that I am proud to lead, I re-commit to the Uluru Statement from the Heart, in full.

Including a constitutionally-enshrined Voice to our National Parliament.

In full, including, but not limited to, the Voice.
On behalf of the Australian Labor Government that I am proud to lead.
But not about politics.

Exactly what a truly grotty, flimsy retail politician might say – with his political fingers crossed behind his back.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 14, 2023 12:31 pm

I did not like Junie Morosi –
That day in the Canberra mall,
Undoing her shirt –
To feed up her squirt,
Will never be unseen at all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 14, 2023 12:35 pm

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Cassie of Sydney
Aug 14, 2023 12:13 PM

So, Qantarse is going full throttle spruiking da Voice.

No probs.
It will mean da Voice is then associated with overpriced late delivery and baggage theft.
Imagine walking up to the desk to find out what happened to your cancelled flight only to be greeted by a grinning idiot wearing a “Yes” badge. Then you finally get on your late replacement flight to be subjected to more “Welcome to … ” bullshit.
It may come as a shock to Quaintarse, but passengers just expect them to leave and arrive on time, tell them when they can’t do that and not send your bags to Gadigal when you are going to Wurundjeri.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 12:39 pm

Dot
Aug 14, 2023 12:23 PM

Old Ozzie, that is the most boring wine list I have seen in ages.

Code for “I am willing to drink very expensive and very cheap wine”.

Sums me up perfectly – buy around $5 wines for general quaffing and evening enjoyment through Dan Murphys Membership or Just Wines or Qantas Wines,

Penfolds has been mainly priced out of reach – down to Bin 28 with Bin 389 and St Henri thrown in with Specials, but have received some good member specials on Koonunga Hill 1776

Still a number of Penfolds Bin 407 93, 94, 96, 98 & 2000 to drink, and Konunga Hill Shiraz 98 still a really good drop – finished all Bin 707

Penfolds Functions are my way of trying expensive wines other than my sons mates

I really enjoyed the

Grange Shiraz Challenge
Armadale Cellars 813 – 817 High Street Armadale VIC 3143

my Son-in-Law Melbourne treated me to, and I have said previously Mine Host was a Rough & Ready Excellent Bon Vivant in the style of Len Evans

I am lucky to be on Serrat Mailing list having purchased 2014 Australian Wine of the year Shiraz Voigner

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 12:39 pm

The science news is fun.

Driverless taxis gain ground in San Francisco (via Phys.org, 12 Aug)

California authorities took a major step forward Thursday in expanding driverless taxi services in San Francisco, giving the green light for operators Waymo and Cruise to compete with ride-share services and cabs.

One whole day is all it took:

Driverless Cars Cause Traffic Jam in San Francisco in Malfunction (Breitbart, 13 Aug)

A group of about ten self-driving taxis became stuck in the San Francisco neighborhood of North Beach on Friday evening, causing a traffic jam just one day after regulators voted to allow driverless taxi companies virtual free rein in the city.

We’re in excellent hands, our betters come from the highest echelons of academia and industry!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 14, 2023 12:40 pm

French PM stays true after losing Matildas bet

French President Emmanuel Macron has stayed true to his word and joined millions of Australians in cheering on the Matildas after Australia’s penalty shootout victory over France.

The leader of France accepted a bet from Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese ahead of last night’s match, in which the two leaders agreed to both support the winner of the Australia v France quarter-final moving forward.

“Nothing personal against our English friends, but a bet is a bet,” Macron wrote on X, following the Matildas win in Brisbane.

“Good luck Australia for the semi-finals!”

Technical Note: Macron has zero English friends and, to the extent that anyone cares about Macron’s sporting interests, supporting England over Australia would be dramatically unpopular in France.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 12:42 pm

Old Ozzie, you can buy a dozen Mornington Peninsula or Yarra Valley wines for 20 bucks a pop.
The more recent the better.
You should avoid the 5 dollar wines…not good for anyone.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 14, 2023 12:43 pm

He doesn’t even drink Coca-Cola or anything like that. It’s just plain, straightforward spring water

Pfft.

It’s structured water or nothing.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
August 14, 2023 12:44 pm

Here’s a thought- Albanese calls Dec 10 referendum- everyone is too busy at end of school, shopping office party boozing, or away on holidays so massive spark in postal votes -result handed down week before Christmas, and lo! And behold! goodwill and bonhomie delivers a convincing win, no questions asked by the press corps (work experience kids cos the editors are all on well earned six week breaks anyway)
Lickspittle rides a wave of such popularity that he doesn’t even need to pretend to be Catholic over Christmas (which will be named murruwurilliwuddini thereafter.)
…anyone care to offer my odds?

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 12:48 pm

Light moves in waves and a series of waves is incompatible with a volley of particles. So that’s a hard no for photons and a hard yes for aether.

Really that ought to be the end of the matter but physics frauds won’t take no for an answer.

The reason you may not agree is you are swimming in this bullshit since you were a small child. But if you were a sane physicist from 1890 to 1930 you would be scandalised the whole time.

Pogria
Pogria
August 14, 2023 12:49 pm

Bruce of Newcastle,
all the driverless cars and cabs always make me think of Johnny Cabs. 😀

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWgrvNHjKkY

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 14, 2023 12:53 pm

Excellent BBS @12:31. Very Cat In The Hattish.

I did not like Junie Morosi –
That day in the Canberra mall,
Undoing her shirt –
To feed up her squirt,
Will never be unseen at all.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
August 14, 2023 12:54 pm

Horribly, publicly, breastfeeding her 5-year old at the Kambah Village shops.

Some things you can’t unsee.

The kid’s name wasn’t Harvey, was it? “Bitty, Mummy!”

(I went to link a relevant YouTube clip from Little Britain but they’re restricted for being too rude for Google’s sensibilities)

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 12:55 pm

Virgin Atlantic Airways Ruined My Family’s Trip With Intrusive Grooming

BY RABBI MICHAEL BARCLAY

As a congregational Rabbi, I don’t have the time to do a lot of traveling, but I have learned an important lesson in the last year in the traveling that I have done: If you don’t want to subject your children to conscious sexual confusion and grooming, it seems that the only safe way to still travel as a family is to get in your car for a road trip away from either coast.

We are all aware of how Disney properties in both California and Florida have become recruitment centers for the far left’s pansexual gender-denying agenda.

Cruise lines are no longer safe for families, with LGBalphabet exhibitionists and transvestites running the entertainment and programming on board the ship.

Rather than enjoying a floating resort of family fun, children are subjected to cruise personnel letting out their inner freak, and vacations on the sea have become playgrounds for deviancy.

And as I have now experienced, even the skies are becoming grooming grounds for denial of the common sense understanding of what a man and woman really are.

I was blessed this past month to travel with my family for a lengthy stay in Israel. For those of you who have not been, there are no words to describe the awesome magnificence of the country. We traveled from Tiberias to Eilat and everywhere in between, and experienced miracles throughout. But as wonderful as Israel is, the air travel to Israel was beyond disturbing.

Because the fares were the best, we flew over on Virgin Atlantic. This is supposedly a great airline, but despite the physical quality of the flight, food, and in-flight entertainment, I would not set foot on a Virgin aircraft again, even if the ticket was free.

As always, the first experience on a plane is the onboard safety video. These are usually boring but necessary, and Virgin has produced an animated safety video that tries to be light-hearted. I recommend taking a look at Virgin’s safety video, especially at the 3:30 mark.

When the main animated character, a man with a beard, is suddenly in a woman’s skirt with heels, I was sickened.

To casually throw in this unnecessary imagery as if it is normal is just another attempt by a corporation to express their LGBalphabet agenda and groom children.

I didn’t fly Virgin with the intent of getting stuck seeing them preach their political agenda, and to be forced to watch this bearded man in a skirt and heels was very disturbing.

And it got even worse. We had a stopover in London, and I had pre-arranged a special experience for my family by getting passes into the famous Virgin Heathrow lounge.

I was looking forward to a respite for the five hours we were at Heathrow, but again, the Virgin agenda destroyed any joy in the experience.

The Virgin lounge had great physical facilities and many large television monitors throughout that showed news and entertainment. But every few minutes, a Virgin ad would be broadcast in the programming.

Ostensibly an ad for Virgin, it was actually another grooming video about gender expression. This Virgin Air ad, which is apparently less than a year old, is all about their “gender identity policy.”

It is a brazen video promoting cross-dressing and being “non-binary.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 14, 2023 12:57 pm

Willem Pasterkamp Avatar
Willem Pasterkamp
Aug 14, 2023 12:48 PM

Light moves in waves and a series of waves is incompatible with a volley of particles. So that’s a hard no for photons and a hard yes for aether.

Really that ought to be the end of the matter but physics frauds won’t take no for an answer.

I know, right?
But what to do about it?
Just plough on regardless, I say.
Keep up the good fight.

John H.
John H.
August 14, 2023 12:57 pm

Willem Pasterkamp
Aug 14, 2023 12:48 PM
Light moves in waves and a series of waves is incompatible with a volley of particles. So that’s a hard no for photons and a hard yes for aether.

Really that ought to be the end of the matter but physics frauds won’t take no for an answer.

The reason you may not agree is you are swimming in this bullshit since you were a small child. But if you were a sane physicist from 1890 to 1930 you would be scandalised the whole time.

You’re going right up to the line and will eventually cross it. You always do, it is as if you can’t help but make that final step.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 1:01 pm

Graeme – Read up on quantum physics wavefunctions. They’re really neat! Probability fields when poked collapse into one form or the other, wave or particle.

Physicists have managed the classic slit experiment with large molecules, like buckminsterfullerene. If you do it one way they act like particles, if you do it the other way they act like waves, despite being easily imageable with a microscope. The biggest molecules that I can see which have been shown to do the quantum wavefunction dance are made up of 2,000 atoms.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 1:03 pm

feelthebern
Aug 14, 2023 12:42 PM

Old Ozzie, you can buy a dozen Mornington Peninsula or Yarra Valley wines for 20 bucks a pop.
The more recent the better.
You should avoid the 5 dollar wines…not good for anyone.

Usually go to Yarra Valley when visiting fanily in Melbourne and nkoy the wines

Wine lovers, rejoice! Aldi has just claimed another top wine prize — this time, for a $5 drop.

The German supermarket giant’s $4.99 sparkling has claimed the top award at the Melbourne International Wine Competition, winning double gold.

The South Point Estate Sparkling Chardonnay Pinot Noir NV is made in South East Australia, according to the Aldi website, and is one of just two sparkling wines to take home a double gold medal at the prestigious awards.

It is hard to fine a Bad Australian or New Zealand cheap wine – our wines are excellent up & down the price scale

Excellent Selection Red Wines Mixed – 12 Bottles – $7.70 Per Bottle

Excellent Selection Red Wines Mixed Features :

2 x Just Single Vineyard Barossa Valley Cabernet Sauvignon 2018

2 x Long Story South Australia Cabernet Sauvignon 2020

2 x Ultimo Merlot 2020 Australia

2 x Word Search Cabernet Sauvignon NV South Australia

2 x Fistful Shiraz 2019 Australia

2 x Q Reserve Shiraz 2019 SEA

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 14, 2023 1:03 pm

Hahaha – King Island in Bass Strait.

You’re seeing in real time the dashboard for our King Island renewable energy solution. It is based on contributions from wind and solar and the enabling technologies that improve system security and reliability, such as battery, dynamic resister, flywheel and demand side management.

Power generation as of now 94% diesel.

Come on down Bowen.

John
John
August 14, 2023 1:05 pm

Old Ozzie, that is the most boring wine list I have seen in ages.

So, what wine list would excite you?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 14, 2023 1:07 pm

Adam Goodes spruiking Yes with the sleaze and the Irish dwarf poove.

Wish he was still playing so I could go to the shithole SCG and boo him.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 14, 2023 1:08 pm

ZK2A I’ve heard she hangs out, being truthful here, around Specsavers.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 1:14 pm

Did the Weiss Appointment Prove Merrick Garland Committed Perjury?

Shapley pointed out that in the letter dated June 7, Weiss claimed he had “complete authority to file charges” against Hunter Biden, but his story changed after whistleblowers testified to the contrary.

In a letter dated June 30, Weiss stated that he was unable to file charges beyond Delaware’s jurisdiction without collaborating with another U.S. Attorney.

“This announcement yesterday is absolute, unquestionable vindication of Special Agent Ziegler and I coming forward, ’cause this is the crux of the issue that we brought forward to the House Ways and Means Committee and the House Oversight Committee,” Shapley said.

Shapley pointed out that Garland had previously testified that Weiss had greater authority than a Special Counsel does.

So ask yourself, does Weiss now have “less authority” than he did before? “It just doesn’t match up,” Shapley pointed out. So either Garland has now stripped Weiss of authority or he lied to Congress.

“This announcement runs afoul of everything that DOJ has told the American people about who has the authority.

It runs afoul of Attorney General Garland’s testimony in front of Congress on April 26 last year and March 1 of this year, and these letters just simply are not accurate based on the, the, the actions taken,” Shapley explained.

“If you recall, Attorney General Garland said that […] David Weiss had more authority than a special counsel had.

So now he appoints him special counsel, does he now have less authority than he had previously? It just doesn’t match up.”

132andBush
132andBush
August 14, 2023 1:21 pm

Look at this from the other perspective. If a bloke is (rightly) binned and charged for touching up, and/or sexually assaulting four women over a period of time and then says ‘I genuinely thought they were leading me on and consented’, does he get his hand patted and sent on his way with an ‘Off you go, you scamp’?

No. No, he does not.

This should constitute an end to the argument.

132andBush
132andBush
August 14, 2023 1:29 pm

Mention earlier on this morning of Trump breaking into something, Georgia election, something something…

I’m sure this will be another case where the “Rule of Monty” can safely be applied.

Crossie
Crossie
August 14, 2023 1:31 pm

I have the tiniest suspicion that if the Voice ends up in the bin of history, Uncle Luigi may, perhaps, find himself pointing the bone at politicians on the No side of the floor.

So what? That’s what it was supposed to do, that is persuade people to vote No.

Bar Beach Swimmer
August 14, 2023 1:34 pm

Barking Toad
Aug 14, 2023 1:07 PM

+1

Crossie
Crossie
August 14, 2023 1:35 pm

Virgin has produced an animated safety video that tries to be light-hearted. I recommend taking a look at Virgin’s safety video, especially at the 3:30 mark.

When the main animated character, a man with a beard, is suddenly in a woman’s skirt with heels, I was sickened.

A bearded man in women’s clothing is not a transgender person, he is just a creep. A genuine trans would shave and make other changes to look like a woman, by not even shaving the man is sending a different message. He is telling women that they don’t matter, how they look doesn’t matter and that he will be the arbiter of what is a woman.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 1:40 pm

Light moves in waves and a series of waves is incompatible with a volley of particles.

Compton scattering says this is empirically false.

Look it up.

Vicki
Vicki
August 14, 2023 1:41 pm

Re the fatal brain tumour of Mary-Louise Maclaws:

https://open.substack.com/pub/geoffpain/p/brain-cancers-after-pfizer-mrna-jabs?r=j2j4d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Like many, I noted, at the time, the temporal proximity between her initial Covid injection & the discovery of the tumour.

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 1:42 pm

No it’s not false and no Compton scattering does not begin to suggest this.

Entropy
Entropy
August 14, 2023 1:43 pm

A bearded guy could be pantomime, Crossie.

Or performing at the globe theatre.

calli
calli
August 14, 2023 1:47 pm

A man in women’s clothing is a transvestite. Not a “transitioner”. Someone who is body dysmorphic and wishes to be the opposite sex, they will make every effort to look like their ideal. And go to great lengths surgically to achieve this.

That’s putting aside mental illness, which is a terrible affliction. Perversion is not an affliction. It’s a deliberate choice to achieve an end and it has victims other than the pervert.

And then there’s female impersonators, who range from the genuinely glamorous to the intentionally creepy. And last of all there’s Barry Humphries, whose Dame Edna was simply a part of his suite of characters.

The area is so muddied now we are expected to accept the entire package.

Johnny Rotten
August 14, 2023 1:48 pm

Albanese, standing alongside the Referendum Working Group, said the question would be: “A Proposed Law: To alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice. Do you approve this proposed alteration?”

Yes, BUT what are the details of this ‘Proposed Law’ and alteration?

Without these ‘Details’, no one can vote on anything. You cannot vote on a question Tennis Elbow. Don’t you or your Bunch of Muppets know this?

We are being governed by donkeys. Asses all of them. FFS.

Without the details, just vote NO. Then they have to start again, if they want to that is.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 1:53 pm

No it’s not false and no Compton scattering does not begin to suggest this.

You are delusional. Nothing more polite can be added.

Johnny Rotten
August 14, 2023 1:56 pm

I have the tiniest suspicion that if the Voice ends up in the bin of history, Uncle Luigi may, perhaps, find himself pointing the bone at politicians on the No side of the floor.

If it is a No vote, then with a Referendum, it is the Voice (vote) of the People.

Tennis Elbow. Have you never heard of Democracy? You Marxist fool.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with the other side of any floor. It’s a Referendum and nothing to do with a Parliamentary vote. The People will decide and not you ‘Pollies’. FFS.

m0nty
m0nty
August 14, 2023 1:57 pm

Mark Latham axed as NSW One Nation leader by Pauline Hanson, lol.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 1:57 pm

The proposed section 129 “The Voice” is a blank cheque.

Don’t vote for it!

Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

S 129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

There shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
The Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;

The Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.

Rosie
Rosie
August 14, 2023 2:00 pm

You are right, anyone that walks into police station and makes an allegation of sexual assault should have the matter taken to a jury no matter how flimsy and contradictory the evidence.
If it ends up with a not guilty verdict, they should be charged with perjury, even if they didn’t lie.

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 2:02 pm

Are you saying a fraternity of academics are too dim to come up with an aetheric explanation for Compton scattering?

Fire them and get people who can do the job. You can do reincarnation with aether. You can surely do a bit of light dispersal.

Get it together Dot.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 2:05 pm

You can do reincarnation with aether.

Are you using Nagash’s Liber Mortis (the full nine volumes) or the much older Book of Ashur?

Crossie
Crossie
August 14, 2023 2:09 pm

And then there’s female impersonators, who range from the genuinely glamorous to the intentionally creepy. And last of all there’s Barry Humphries, whose Dame Edna was simply a part of his suite of characters.

Everyone understood at the time that female impersonators were performance artists who provided a lot of entertainment, Les Girls being a good example. I don’t remember any of them demanding that the society accept them as women. Calli as you say, those were transvestites. Bearded men in women’s clothes are not even that, I consider them as insults to femininity.

m0nty
m0nty
August 14, 2023 2:10 pm

For those of you still hiding in your epistemic bubble, here’s noted conservative organ National Review with a sober explainer on today’s events in Georgia:

Text messages and other communications obtained by Georgia prosecutors investigating Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results purportedly connect members of the former president’s legal team with a January 2021 voting-systems breach, according to a new report.

Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis’s office has reviewed the communications and is expected to present her case before the grand jury this week. Trump is likely to face his fourth indictment in four months.

It’s Watergate, except this time even more stupid and incompetent.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 2:14 pm

Fatboy

Trump’s lawyers and officials assisting with his re-election were allowed to review the machines. Where’s the crime here?

Crossie
Crossie
August 14, 2023 2:15 pm

Transgenderism is muddying the waters further as it is not clear whether it is specifying a physical transformation or an attitudinal one. Catherine McGreggor said once that she is a transsexual, not a transgender. I wonder to what extent this allows frauds of all kinds to make accusations of discrimination if their claims are not only accepted but celebrated.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 2:15 pm

Note also, there was no such breach of these machines prior to the election.

Where’s the crime?

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 2:18 pm

Oh look, the pervert apologist rears his head.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 2:21 pm

Darth Monty doesn’t like anal sex being accurately described.
His lightsaber is excited!

Johnny Rotten
August 14, 2023 2:22 pm

Oh look, the pervert apologist rears his head.

More like uses his/her/its fat arse as a target once again.

m0nty
m0nty
August 14, 2023 2:23 pm

Trump’s lawyers and officials assisting with his re-election were allowed to review the machines. Where’s the crime here?

I guess we will find out when the indictments drop. Racketeering, conspiracy, computer trespass and witness tampering, allegedly.

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 2:25 pm

“Catherine McGreggor said once that she is a transsexual, not a transgender.”

Correct, which is why I have some respect for McGreggor. Also, McGreggor has had the surgery et al. McGreggor hasn’t just put on some lipstick, wig and a frock, and then claimed to be a woman, furiously demanding access to women only spaces. There’s nothing “pantomime” or “demeaning” about Catherine McGreggor. McGreggor also knows that no amount of surgery or hormones will ever make her* into a biological woman. McGregor isn’t some pervert with a beard who puts on a dress, and signs up to a lesbian dating site, insists he’s a woman and then writes stuff such as “come lick my lesbian dick”. McGreggor isn’t at rallies screeching and screaming about bashing and raping women.

* I don’t mind using female pronouns when writing or speaking about people like McGreggor.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 2:26 pm

Racketeering, conspiracy, computer trespass and witness tampering, allegedly.

Where’s the evidence?!

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 2:30 pm

The pervert apologist doesn’t do evidence.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 2:31 pm

noted conservative organ National Review

LOL, Darth Monty faceplants again.
Like he faceplanted earlier when he cited this story. No Darth Monty, this is not the Death Star. Indeed it’s rather amusing since CNN’s story actually disproves their own headline.
Lefties love doing the same thing over and over hoping they will work.
They also obviously can’t read. There, I relinked the story, just for you.

calli
calli
August 14, 2023 2:31 pm

I thought Pauline hung Latham out to dry shortly after his honest, but angry Twitter exchange with that north Sydney creep (who had been baiting him relentlessly).

It was only a matter of time before formally cutting him loose.

calli
calli
August 14, 2023 2:32 pm

The messing around with language and meaning is deliberate. It puts opponents on the back foot, as the changes are fluid and weaponised.

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 2:33 pm

“I thought Pauline hung Latham out to dry shortly after his honest, but angry Twitter exchange with that north Sydney creep (who had been baiting him relentlessly).

It was only a matter of time before formally cutting him loose.”

Correct, the best thing One Nation has in NSW is Latham.

m0nty
m0nty
August 14, 2023 2:33 pm

Where’s the evidence?!

Real lawyers are going to present it to court, Dennis.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 14, 2023 2:34 pm

Pauline is a trougher and the whole outfit has become no more than an AEC subsidy harvesting grift.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 2:35 pm

I guess we will find out when the indictments drop. Racketeering, conspiracy, computer trespass and witness tampering, allegedly.

Oh, you’re posting claims without even a shred of evidence to back it up.

Okay then, if you’re posting claims, I claim that you fondle cats.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 14, 2023 2:37 pm

You are right, anyone that walks into police station and makes an allegation of sexual assault should have the matter taken to a jury no matter how flimsy and contradictory the evidence.

No. That’s the Higgins method.

Anyone that walks into a police station and signs up to a statement, that comes with an acknowledgment that you liable to the penalties of perjury if you sign it, should actually be liable to the penalties of perjury.

Any fallout from that, whether it’s mental illness or not, is a mitigating circumstance and should be dealt with by the court when determining sentence.

If it ends up with a not guilty verdict, they should be charged with perjury, even if they didn’t lie.

I return to the point made earlier. ‘But they all consented!’, he said, and which he believed, when every skerrick of evidence pointed the other way.

Now off you go, you little scamp.

Crossie
Crossie
August 14, 2023 2:40 pm

Cassie, I likewise have a lot of time for Catherine McGreggor.

Crossie
Crossie
August 14, 2023 2:42 pm

Sancho Panzer
Aug 14, 2023 2:34 PM
Pauline is a trougher and the whole outfit has become no more than an AEC subsidy harvesting grift.

Pauline relies very heavily on James Ashby, her chief of staff, who is gay and I’m guessing has taken umbrage at Mark Latham over the gay tweets.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 14, 2023 2:44 pm

m0nty
Aug 14, 2023 1:57 PM
Mark Latham axed as NSW One Nation leader by Pauline Hanson, lol.

With all the info about Biden family corruption coming out in the open, the fat fascist fool has to seek distraction squirrels everywhere he can pretend to find them. LOL.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 14, 2023 2:48 pm

Pauline is a trougher and the whole outfit has become no more than an AEC subsidy harvesting grift.

No matter what colour texta I use, my butchers’ paper keeps giving me: X = James Ashby.

I’m not sure what this can mean.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 14, 2023 2:49 pm

m0nty
Aug 14, 2023 2:33 PM
Where’s the evidence?!

Real lawyers are going to present it to court, Dennis.

The DemonRats don’t have “real” lawyers, Fatso. They have crokked lawyr=ers.

How’s that Hunter Biden “plea deal” going? you know, the one that gave immunity from prosecution for future and past crimes? Real lawyers? LOL.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 2:49 pm

SITREP 8/13/23: AFU Struggles For Symbolic Meaning In Late Summer Doldrums

SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER
14 AUG 2023

Western MSM has begun to lose it. Pessimism and dooming is now endemic to their reports. They’ve pretty much accepted that Ukraine has no chance in the counter-offensive. Listen to this CNN report, which perfectly summarizes the current sentiment—they’re no longer beating around the bush:

A new NYTimes article reveals much of the same, but dashed with some grisly details of Ukrainian losses:

The heavy losses were not a shock to them. Most of the commanders said that they had seen units, including their own, decimated at times during the past 16 months of fighting. The battalion commander, Oleksandr, said that casualties were so high during the counteroffensive in Kherson last year that he had been forced to replace the members of his unit three times.

The commander reveals that most of his new men are mentally broken:

“I lost a lot,” he said, “and some of the new guys are mentally broken.” As for the destruction of tanks and armored vehicles, he shrugged it off as a normal consequence of war.

This new WashPost article strikes the lowest note of all:

The article begins with this gutting preamble:

KYIV, Ukraine — This nation is worn out.

For nearly 18 months, Ukraine has stood against its Russian invaders — rallying support for its troops by embracing last year’s battlefield victories in the Kyiv, Kharkiv and Kherson regions.

Those wins carried beleaguered Ukrainians through a winter of airstrikes on civilian infrastructure and a brutal and symbolic battle for Bakhmut, the eastern city that fell to the Russians in May.

Throughout, Ukrainian officials and their western partners hyped up a coming counteroffensive — one that, buoyed by a flood of new weapons and training, they hoped would turn the tide of the war.

But two months after Ukraine went on the attack, with little visible progress on the front and a relentless, bloody summer across the country, the narrative of unity and endless perseverance has begun to fray.

It goes on to state that, though official casualty tallies don’t exist, almost everyone knows multiple people who’ve died at the front:

Blyzniuk also lives in fear that her husband or two sons of fighting age will be mobilized. She has already noticed that far fewer men walk the streets of her city than before. Ukraine does not disclose its military casualty counts, but everyone shares stories, she said, of new soldiers at the front lasting just two to three days.

Another soldier dishes the grisly details of frontline work:

In the Donetsk region, an Estonian Ukrainian soldier who goes by the call sign Suzie works at a stabilization point where wounded soldiers are treated before being transferred to hospitals in safer towns. On a recent day, he helped organize body bags that would soon be used in the makeshift morgue that already reeked of death.

Sometimes, he said, soldiers’ bodies are so blown apart they have to use two or three body bags to contain them. There are times when a soldier is returned with “just 15 percent of the body,” Suzie said. “I never saw so much blood before.”

Though it’s been beaten to death, I wanted to briefly touch on Ukrainian casualties, simply because several new revealing pieces of data have made their way across the desk.

A different new NYTimes article openly states that Ukraine now has over 150k total casualties:

As usual, they couch it with the wink-and-nudge that Russia has even more just to dampen the effect of the blow.

Here’s one analyst’s (ArmChairWarlord) take on it after actually studying the cemeteries in one region as a sample:

There are at least 10 000 graves that I found in the Lviv Oblast, there will be more, because I only checked out the main cemeteries. New graves are also being prepared everywhere.

I can not visit every cemetery or city, because of safety and i need to sustain myself financially, so I need to keep my business going at the same time.

The Ukrainian losses will be somewhere around the 200,000 mark, excluding the missing. That’s my estimate. Almost every person I speak to, knows someone who died, and in turn knows someone else who knows another person that died. The conversations usually go like this… “The man from the second floor of my apartment died, and my cousin from XXXXX lost her son, 3 others from her son’s class also died…”

We will perhaps never know the truth or real losses, and also not on the Russian side.

Interestingly enough, in one week, I also saw over 200 men and more than 30 women with missing limbs or in wheelchairs. These are people that were at the same place as me, at a particular time…so you can conclude yourself how many of those there are.

So let’s look at the data points we have showing Ukrainian KIA in the 200-400,000 range.

– Population surveys

– Obituary counts on social media

– Cemetery construction

– Amputation disclosures

– Older, inadvertent official disclosures

– Endless conscription but no army growth

It’s all completely internally consistent, pointing to the same approximate number of casualties in the 2-400k range. This is exactly what you would expect if that was in fact the case – all these secondary indicators are consistent with each other and there is no countervailing data besides the obvious lies of Ukrainian officials.

Given that Mediazona’s count of Russian KIA in the 30,000 range has recently been validated by another inadvertent disclosure on their side (of some 8,500 WIA returned to duty, total, in the entire VDV for the entire SMO) this also points to an absolutely brutal fact: for every Russian soldier killed in this war, somewhere between seven and thirteen Ukrainian soldiers die. That’s apocalyptic for the Ukrainian Army and a disgrace for their Western advisors.

This also, by the way, aligns perfectly with the Ukrainian MoD’s claims for -Russian- casualties. This suggests strongly that the Ukrainian MoD’s infamously implausibly running count of Russian losses is, astonishingly, actually an accurate report of their own losses

Worth reading further in Long & as always – Detailed Read

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 2:50 pm

I guess we will find out when the indictments drop. Racketeering, conspiracy, computer trespass and witness tampering, allegedly.

Okay.

Is this a crime?

“Just landed back in DC with the Mayor huge things starting to come together! Most immediately, we were just granted access — by written invitation! — to Coffee County’s systems. Yay!” reads one message from January 1, 2021, according to CNN. The message was sent in a group chat of colleagues from Sullivan Strickler, a law firm used by Trump’s team to review the voting systems in Coffee County, a rural Georgia county that Trump won by 70 percent.

“The mayor” appears to refer to Trump’s then-lawyer, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

That “written invitation” was reportedly authored by former Coffee County elections official Misty Hampton, who falsely told the Trump team in the days after the election that Dominion voting machines could “very easily” change votes from one candidate to another. A Trump campaign official asked Hampton in an email to “obtain as much information as possible” about the voting situation in the county.

Fatboy, how is this a crime?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 14, 2023 2:51 pm

JC
Aug 14, 2023 2:35 PM
I guess we will find out when the indictments drop. Racketeering, conspiracy, computer trespass and witness tampering, allegedly.

Oh, you’re posting claims without even a shred of evidence to back it up.

Okay then, if you’re posting claims, I claim that you fondle cats.

Look, JC, I don’t like to contradict you, but I suspect that Fatso does a lot more than fondle the cats.

Robert Sewell
August 14, 2023 2:51 pm

Rosie

Aug 14, 2023 8:28 AM
And I don’t agree she should be charged.
She should have been told, unequivocally, by the office of the DPP, if not the police that what happened was not sexual assault and to change the way she behaved if she didn’t like the consequences of her own actions.

She should be charged. She has broken the law. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 2:55 pm

Can someone assist here, last year, when I had to go to the police station and give a lengthy statement about the “wape allegation”, I sat there for a little over three hours and I recalled everything I could. The detective was very methodical, diligent and patient. Remember, this allegation is from 2008, yet she never mentioned rape or assault until 2021 (funny that). However I have a very, very good memory and I recall even trivial things, and I certainly recall this relationship between the woman and man. But I suspect the clincher wasn’t my good memory, it was my emails and texts from the woman that I provided. I remember when he was reading the texts and emails, he was trying hard not to roll his eyes.

Now, thankfully I have not heard heard anything since, and if charges had been laid, I would have heard something, because it would have hit the newspapers. But here’s my question, are the police compelled to prepare a brief to the DPP who then makes the decision whether to prosecute or not?

Do I think the woman who made the allegation, where I then had to give a statement to the police, is a perjurer? In a sense she is, because I’m quite certain she wasn’t raped, but this woman is not mentally well, and I don’t wish any misfortune on her, BUT as I said to the detective, I don’t believe she was raped back in 2008, and I don’t believe any man deserves to be accused of a heinous crime when IT DID NOT HAPPEN.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 2:57 pm

Fatboy, if you’re looking for Watergate analogies, try this one for size, if it fits. Try this on. along with the surrounding stories how the depraved old crook helped his drug addicted son harvest money from China, Ukraine, Romania and several other places.

Hunter Biden’s legal team said late Sunday the Justice Department had decided to “renege on the previously agreed-upon plea agreement,” escalating a dispute that is threatening to become a factor in the 2024 presidential race as President Biden seeks re-election.

On Friday, prosecutors disclosed that plea talks with the president’s son had broken down and Attorney General Merrick Garland named Delaware U.S. Attorney David Weiss as a special counsel to continue the investigation and prosecution related to Hunter Biden’s tax and business dealings.

The disagreements between the two sides spilled into public view at a hearing last month, when Hunter Biden had expected to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax counts. Under questions from the judge about both sides’ understanding of the agreements—including whether the government expected to bring any further charges against him—Hunter Biden reversed course, pleaded not guilty, and left the deal in limbo.

In the three-page filing Sunday, the younger Biden’s legal team provided more details about the talks, saying prosecutors had proposed and “largely dictated” the language in the plea agreement and a separate deal to resolve a gun charge.

That included language that said the U.S. wouldn’t criminally prosecute Biden further over the conduct at issue in either the tax or gun cases, a provision which Biden understood to mean the investigation was over. The agreement, now public, said it didn’t cover any future conduct by Biden or by any of his affiliated businesses.

At the July hearing, prosecutors instead revealed they continued to investigate Hunter Biden, including in connection with possible foreign-lobbying charges related to his work for foreign clients, which had been at issue in the tax counts.

In the new filing, Hunter Biden’s team said prosecutors had previously conveyed otherwise, saying that “his understanding of the scope of immunity agreed to by the United States is also corroborated by prosecutors’ contemporaneous written and oral communications during the plea negotiations.”

calli
calli
August 14, 2023 2:57 pm

Okay, time to lighten up. Sometimes there’s an amusing side to men who want to be women. And there it should stay.

I doubt whether SNL could do that segment today.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 2:58 pm

Do I think the woman who made the allegation, where I then had to give a statement to the police, is a perjurer? In a sense she is, because I’m quite certain she wasn’t raped, but this woman is not mentally well, and I don’t wish any misfortune on her, BUT as I said to the detective, I don’t believe she was raped back in 2008, and I don’t believe any man deserves to be accused of a heinous crime when IT DID NOT HAPPEN.

She is a menace to herself and others.

Lock. Her. Up!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 14, 2023 2:59 pm

‘He doesn’t even drink Coca-Cola or anything like that. It’s just plain, straightforward spring water.’

At the end of a long day rambling about the estate of Balmoral castle in Scotland, across the grouse moors, beneath grey scudding clouds, against an insistent wind which impertinent gusts would sometimes cover him in a fine spray of rain, Andrew likes to get back inside where he can warm himself in front of a roaring fire with a 10-year old.

And sometimes a drink.

Johnny Rotten
August 14, 2023 2:59 pm

Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.

– Tommy Cooper

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 3:00 pm

JC has won the mock trial voir dire against monty.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 3:00 pm

Real lawyers are going to present it to court

Ah, straight shootin’ lawyers in white plastic armour. That’s very funny Darth Monty, especially since this has suddenly appeared after seven years of the most desperate and wide ranging investigation efforts ever seen. Particularly when CNN’s own stop-the-presses-we-GOT-him-now story disproves itself.

The fun thing is the Georgia DA is going to have to allow discovery, which will show that the 2020 election was indeed stolen by the Democrats, thereby proving that Trump wasn’t trying to overturn the election but trying to save it.

Be careful what you wish for…you just might get it son.

Robert Sewell
August 14, 2023 3:01 pm

Rosie

Aug 14, 2023 8:58 AM
It’s not perjury if you genuinely believe what you experienced was rape.

That, Rosie, is just a bizarre interpretation of reality.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 3:05 pm

I suspect, the Fulton County DA has been banging far too many gang bangers to think straight.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
August 14, 2023 3:06 pm

Actually, Robert, Rosie is right. To commit perjury, you have to make a false statement knowingly and deliberately.

You can still be at fault if you say something untrue because you are too negligent to check the facts, but that isn’t perjury.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 3:09 pm

WSJ – Why U.S. Drones Don’t Cut It for Ukraine

They’re too expensive to deploy at scale.

Aug. 13, 2023

Seth’s Cropsey’s “Ukraine Needs American Drones” (op-ed, Aug. 7) aims in the right direction but misses the core problem.

U.S. companies don’t mass produce the cheap, expendable drones Ukrainian troops need.

Since these firms sell to governments and business customers, their advanced drones start at around $16,000.

U.S. defense-tech firms have spent months testing their drones in Ukraine, but some now leave their drones in storage because they couldn’t perform perfectly in Ukraine’s harsh battlefield conditions.

U.S. firms don’t have a mass-market consumer drone that costs only a few thousand dollars, which is what Ukraine needs to replace DJI’s Mavic-3, the ubiquitous Chinese tool on the front line.

The Pentagon or Commerce Department could encourage U.S. firms to enter the cheaper drone market, but they can’t buy drones that don’t exist at scale.

Austin Gray

Kyiv, Ukraine

Mr. Gray, formerly a U.S. Navy intelligence officer, works in product development at a drone factory.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 14, 2023 3:14 pm

A woman who denies murdering a farmer in his 70s in 2016 and allegedly feeding his body to the pigs on his property is being heard in a judge only trial.

The trial for Kylie So, 50, has begun in the NSW Supreme Court sitting at Dubbo Courthouse, more than seven years since the crimes allegedly unfolded.
The Crown alleges So murdered 71-year-old Robert Dickie on June 14, 2016 at his property at Elong Elong, 57km northeast of Dubbo.

Brick Top, where art thou?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 3:20 pm

WSJ – Ukraine’s Slog Prompts Focus on Next Year’s Fight

With big gains elusive this year, planners consider how training and new equipment might tip the battlefield balance in the spring

Ukraine’s current campaign to retake territory occupied by Russian forces could still have many months to run.

But military strategists and policy makers across the West are already starting to think about next year’s spring offensive.

The shift reflects a deepening appreciation that, barring a major breakthrough, Ukraine’s fight to eject Russia’s invasion forces is likely to take a long time.

When Kyiv’s counteroffensive began in the spring, optimists hoped Ukrainian troops could replicate their success last year in routing Russian forces. But an initial attempt to use newly supplied Western tanks and armored vehicles to punch through fortified Russian lines stalled.

Since then, progress has been slow and painful, relying on small-unit tactics. A renewed push could still be in the offing. But military leaders and policy makers already are grappling with the question of what can be achieved in the next few months and how to prepare for a protracted conflict.

A nagging concern in Kyiv and Western capitals is that politicians and voters may come to see the war as a quagmire and sour on supporting Ukraine.

Even if Kyiv’s Western backers stay resolute, clocks are ticking as Ukrainian forces burn through munitions, manpower and stamina for a grueling fight.

All military campaigns end at some point—even in wars that grind on for years—at what tacticians call a culmination, or the point when advancing forces can go no further because of success, impediments or lack of supplies.

Kyiv’s goal now is for its current offensive to culminate with sufficient gains to show Ukrainian citizens and backers in Washington, Berlin and elsewhere that their support hasn’t been misplaced—and should continue.

President Biden at the North Atlantic Treaty Organization summit in Lithuania last month told the Ukrainian president and a cheering crowd that U.S. support will remain steadfast. The U.S., NATO allies and Japan pledged to develop long-term security plans for Ukraine. The Pentagon continues to supply Ukraine with advanced weaponry—most recently deadly cluster munitions—and allies are increasing the lethality of what they supply, with weapons such as air-launched cruise missiles.

Senior military leaders, meanwhile, have for months warned that Ukraine’s relatively quick gains of last year wouldn’t easily be repeated. U.S. Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has repeatedly poured cold water on suggestions that Kyiv could quickly slice through a land corridor that Russia holds along Ukraine’s southeast or isolate the Crimean Peninsula, which Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014.

Similar caution is now more widespread in the White House, said Ivo Daalder, who was former President Barack Obama’s ambassador to NATO. “I do think there’s a realization in the administration that Ukraine’s not going to be regaining all its territory any time soon,” Daalder said.

U.S. and other Western officials have hoped that a significant Ukrainian breakthrough could bruise Russian forces enough to bring President Vladimir Putin to a negotiating table as soon as this winter for serious talks about some kind of settlement. Chances of that happening now appear slim, diplomats say.

Instead, Russia is reinforcing its physical defenses in Ukraine, adding more soldiers and ramping up production of ammunition and weaponry. The West is also cranking up military industries, raising the prospect of a protracted war of attrition.

Fast movement on the battlefield last year and other quick conflicts since the Cold War may have led observers to believe that modern warfare is inevitably speedy, say military specialists.

History shows otherwise, with wars averaging from three to seven years with multiple campaign seasons, they say.

“This war could look like the Korean War, with rapid movement on the front line in the early months and then relative stasis—but it takes years for both sides to realize that,” said Dmitry Gorenburg, a Russia expert at the Center for Naval Analyses, a think tank linked to the Pentagon.

The Korean War, started in 1950, was never settled and technically continues, albeit with an extended armistice. A tense demilitarized zone divides the heavily armed Korean Peninsula.

Other examples for Ukraine’s future that strategists point to include the Middle East, where Israel has been in conflict with Palestinians and its Arab neighbors since the Jewish state’s creation in 1948, and Northern Ireland, where violent opposition to British rule lasted for generations.

But even if there is no breakthrough this summer, Ukraine can keep fighting well into winter. Rain and snow might slow operations of heavy equipment such as tanks, but Ukrainian forces have proven most effective so far when operating in small units, often with lighter equipment.

“The Ukrainian military continues to adapt faster than the Russian military,” said Gordon “Skip” Davis, a retired U.S. Army major general and former NATO deputy assistant secretary-general.

Ukraine has committed only a portion of its best-trained troops to the offensive, and only some of the more than 60,000 Ukrainian troops trained by NATO militaries have been drilled in complex maneuvers known as combined-arms operations. With time, more Ukrainian troops and commanders will have received advanced Western training.

That training will help them put modern Western equipment to better use.

Ukraine’s initial attempts to use European tanks and U.S. troop carriers in the offensive didn’t fare well, but by next spring Kyiv will have both more Western equipment and more skilled operators of the gear.

“As time passes, Ukraine will eventually employ more of its NATO-trained and equipped brigades, while Russia will struggle to maintain its rate of fire and its front-line coherence,” Davis said.

By the middle of next year, Ukraine might also be flying U.S.-made F-16 jet fighters, which European operators of the plane, including Denmark and the Netherlands, are eager to donate. Pressure is mounting on Washington to provide ATACMS long-range ground-launched rockets and on Germany to offer Taurus cruise missiles.

A big question around F-16s is what weapons the U.S. might allow them to carry.

Russia has antiaircraft systems that might hit the planes, raising concerns in Washington that Ukrainian fighters would just get shot down.

Equipping them with munitions such as the Joint Standoff Weapon and Paveway precision-guided bombs could allow F-16s to keep a safer distance from the front.

The West might also eventually provide more advanced equipment, such as sophisticated drones capable of air attacks. Early this year, U.S. weapons maker General Atomics offered Ukraine two of its Reaper MQ-9 drones for one dollar, an offer normally valued at more than $25 million.

Nothing came of the proposal, possibly because of security concerns around classified technology on the robotic aircraft. Reapers can carry Paveway bombs and Hellfire missiles.

Working against Ukraine, in addition to weather, are potentially dwindling supplies of Western munitions and wear on equipment already donated.

Cannons and gun barrels can sustain only a finite number of firings before cracking or breaking, and heavy military vehicles require extensive maintenance—even if they are never in combat.

Russia also continues to reinforce its defenses in Ukraine, including by putting new land mines in some places Ukrainian troops have cleared them.

Strategists looking to next year and beyond hope that over time—even as Russia reinforces impediments to Ukrainian assaults—Ukrainian troops can acquire skills and experience that allow them to outmaneuver and outsmart Russian forces.

How politicians will view the war next year remains a widespread concern, especially because of the U.S. presidential election next November. Former President Donald Trump, the Republican front-runner, has suggested he would curtail support to Ukraine.

But many other Republicans continue to endorse U.S. help for Kyiv, including a large number of senators and many in the House, although some support tighter scrutiny of U.S. aid. In votes last month on defense appropriations, five amendments proposed by House Republicans close to Trump that would have cut aid to Ukraine were defeated by wide margins after more than 130 Republicans voted alongside all Democrats in rejecting them.

“I think that bodes extremely well for support,” said Daalder, the former NATO ambassador.

Concern that such support might fade if Trump were to regain the White House increases pressure on Ukraine and its supporters to deliver significant gains in the next campaign season if they aren’t possible this year.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 3:23 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Aug 14, 2023 3:14 PM

A woman who denies murdering a farmer in his 70s in 2016 and allegedly feeding his body to the pigs on his property is being heard in a judge only trial.

Six Pieces, Sixteen Pigs – Snatch (5/8) Movie CLIP (2000) HD – 2 mins 32 secs – how to do it

Vicki
Vicki
August 14, 2023 3:26 pm
Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
August 14, 2023 3:30 pm

With regard to the divisive InVoice,

(1) Are there going to be scrutineers from both sides of the divide checking the counting of the referendum votes and their validity?

(2) As I firmly believe that any sort of InVoice is wrong in principle, I am dead set against it, whether realised through the referendum or, if that is unsuccessful, and by spitting in the face of those against it, through legislation. (I know, it is already too late to bleat about existing entrenched apartheid, with separate legal and health systems etc etc, that has been foisted on us by creep and stealth.)

(3) There are many – far too many I reckon that would benefit from rationalisation – organisations already in existence that, if properly focussed and frequently audited, could possibly improve the outcomes of those of our dear brethren (not sarcasm) trapped in remote communities. Likewise, benefits would, I expect, also flow to those in less remote communities such as Yarrabah near Cairns and Cherbourg near Murgon in SE Qld. Clearly, the political and Aboriginal ‘elites’ use these good people as weapons and have no interest whatsoever in advancing their well-being. Most fauxborigines need no assistance as they are already thriving in our (pathetic) society.

There is much more that can be said, and I am seriously saddened by it all. Sh1t I detest 90% of our politicians and the opportunistic public serpents who pander to them or have their own agenda. Frustration and exasperation has bubbled over, I’m afraid. Sorry.

/naïvety and wishful thinking

/rant

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 14, 2023 3:32 pm

eric hinton at 11:52 – Yals shorebreak is great fun but requires a bit of care. As does Scarborough on its day. As a mate new to surfing found that a three foot wave into two feet of water doesn’t go and we ended up in the ED with a broken nose (him, not the surfboard).

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 3:40 pm

The legislated actual Voice Referendum questions – no way would I vote YES to this

Monday, 14 August 2023

Thanks to Seeker of Truth for the link to this legislation.

https://voice.gov.au/referendum-2023/referendum-question-and-constitutional-amendment

Referendum question

On 19 June 2023, Parliament agreed the constitutional amendment and question would be as follows:

Referendum question

On referendum day, voters will be asked to vote ‘yes’ or ‘no’ on a single question. The question on the ballot paper will be:

“A Proposed Law: to alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Do you approve this proposed alteration?”

Constitutional amendment

The proposed law that Australians are being asked to approve at the referendum would insert the following lines into the Constitution:

“Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples

129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice

In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:

I there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;

II the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;

III the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.”

Constitution Alteration Bill

You can read more about the Constitution Alteration Bill and the Advisory Report on the Constitution Alteration:

Constitution Alteration Bill (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice) 2023
Advisory Report of the Joint Select Committee on the Constitution Alteration (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice) 2023
Australian Government Response to the Joint Select Committee Advisory Report on the Constitution Alteration (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice) 2023

Referendum 2023

Referendum question and constitutional amendment
How a referendum works

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 3:41 pm

Old Lefty
Aug 14, 2023 3:06 PM

Actually, Robert, Rosie is right. To commit perjury, you have to make a false statement knowingly and deliberately.

You can still be at fault if you say something untrue because you are too negligent to check the facts, but that isn’t perjury.

If one is too negligent to know the facts to give evidence as an accuser (yet the police believed them at the time of an initial complaint, statement and investigation, etc., that they had capacity) then they lack the mental capacity to operate in society. They are not guilty of perjury but are dangerously delusional and should be in an institution.

That or they are lying and have strong evidence against them (faking mental illness) as to their guilt and premeditation. Such people are wilful and malicious in their deeds and mock both those with mental illness and real sexual assault victims.

They deserve severe punishment for perjury, perhaps among other justice offences.

They are crazy or they are guilty. No hand patting. They are not confused. “I don’t remember” does not make another person guilty, it speaks to your own possible lack of capacity, let alone reliability, for various possible reasons.

Vicki
Vicki
August 14, 2023 3:44 pm

Australian Spectator has an excellent article on the situation in Canada where similar indigenous demands have had disastrous results:

You will pay reparations, one way or another. It doesn’t matter that no one voted for it, or that politicians are unable to win the political argument in favour of perpetual historical guilt. When it comes to the era of activist politics, these battles for cash are fought and won in the shadows of ESG where corporate entities shake hands with the government.

Australia’s vocal but tiny ‘Blak activist’ collective is attempting to sneak new race taxes into the Constitution (Pay the Rent) stuffed into the stomach of the Voice’s Trojan horse – but Canada is a lot further down the path of this madness. Fortunes in reparations have been handed out under many different headings with the largest totalling over $43 billion without, many claim, sufficient consultation with Canadian taxpayers.

Canada, like New Zealand, has a Treaty that enables a large industry of historical guilt to effectively permanently fragment their nations. The result is increasing civil tension and a perception of deep unfairness from citizens who did nothing wrong but find themselves coughing up their hard earned money because of their ancestry.

A recent article in the Daily Mail went viral after a photograph of a customer receipt from a restaurant showed a worrying detail at the end…

THE LAND YOU ARE ON 1%
There was a further notice in the fine print that read:

THE LAND YOU ARE ON: As Tribal Park Allies … adds 1% to your bill … to support + conserve + revitalise Tribal Parks + culture.
At some point, ‘charity’ has been confused with something that looks a lot like the first cousin of ‘tax’.

The business confirmed this charge is voluntary.

It is not the first time we have seen bizarre charges added to bills on a voluntary basis. A vegan cafe famously charged a ‘man tax’ of 18 per cent as a type of ‘affirmative action’ to ‘bridge the gender pay divide’. They didn’t think the concept was ‘too radical’, just as plenty of people probably see no issue with Indigenous donations tagged onto the end of purchases. We come across these feel-good taxes all the time. Have you ever been asked to spend an extra 10 cents on children in Africa? Or forked out a few dollars extra to help recycling in Asia? Or what about carbon offsets added to your last flight? We live in a forest of ESG begging.

What’s the harm in ‘sharing the profits of the Canadian tourist industry’ by adding random charges? In reality, these tourist profits are already being shared – probably disproportionately – via the rest of the taxes taken. Many Indigenous groups across Canada, America, and Australia might cry poor but they actually receive hundreds of thousands, or even millions, from various government initiatives, corporate holdings, donations, and partnerships.

The real gripe, and probably the reason the original story started to trend, regards the concept of ‘the land you’re on’. It is very similar to ‘Welcome to Country’ and implies that anyone who is not part of the First Nations umbrella is being granted access rather than simply being entitled to exist in the nation where they were born. A growing complaint from Australians is the ‘Welcome to Country’ message at the start of nearly every activity with the most common response being, ‘Stop welcoming me to my own country!’ Welcome to Country began as a tourist gimmick, now it has become a coercive – almost threatening – activist catchcry used to re-enforce the idea of ‘stolen land’ and, by extension, Pay the Rent sentiments.

The concept of reparations has been seeping into society thanks to Marxist agitators working within Indigenous communities to undermine Western values such as liberty, equality, and individualism. This is being done against the will of citizens who are becoming increasingly frustrated with the ‘sins of the father’ mentality.

It is known that leading activists within the Voice movement have either spoken of, endorsed, or outright called for reparations. A glance at the ‘Pay the Rent’ movement offers a glimpse at a deeply racist ideology that believes it is acceptable to charge innocent Australian citizens what amounts to a fine for being born with the wrong skin colour.

The Pay the Rent movement asks (although it will no doubt become a demand), for homeowners to ‘voluntarily’ pay a percentage of their income to Aboriginal elders. This would be in addition to nearly half of their salaries being docket as tax by the government of which tens of billions is already given directly to Indigenous groups. Per person, more money is spent on Indigenous people than any other group in Australia. If you happen to be an average, middle-aged worker of colonial descent, you pretty much spend your life forking out to the government and getting your energy bill doubled as a reward.

Civil peace is built upon fairness – not equity. The further the board is tilted against the majority of hard-working Australians, the less generous and tolerant they will become.

Reparations are never a topic based in historical equality. Colonial Australians can trace their histories back through thousands of years of persecution, enslavement, victimhood, oppression, and terror. The difference is, civilisations that look backwards never build a future.

The only profit in the past is a lesson, and that lesson is that race politics is the path to violence, division, and persecution.

Having escaped the dangerous politics that has plagued the rest of the world for millennia, the Labor Party has foolishly imported it onto our shores, imagining it will consolidate their power with a Constitutionally enshrined bureaucracy loyal to its cause.

Albanese may as well sit beside a lion, stroking its back, expecting it not to eat him the second he falls asleep.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 3:45 pm

We are already paying reparations, just informally.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 14, 2023 3:46 pm

You can still be at fault if you say something untrue because you are too negligent to check the facts, but that isn’t perjury

The original point of this discussion was not facts that applied to other people, but statements about things that happened directly to them.

There should be no need to check your own facts about things you say happened specifically to you. It’s either wilful, or it’s delusional. The concept of negligence doesn’t come into it.

Vicki
Vicki
August 14, 2023 3:48 pm

BTW I didn’t know, until I read this, that there was a particular “Pay the Rent” movement.

But I am not surprised. It explains the “Pay the Rent” graffiti written on the road over a new bridge in our valley last week. Few locals understood what it meant. I think they do now.

The local Council, under duress from locals, scrubbed it off the road the next day.

Robert Sewell
August 14, 2023 3:48 pm

feelthebern

Aug 14, 2023 10:43 AM
Why TF is the ALP sticking its nose into Israel’s business.
Are they that desperate for distraction squirrels ?

Yes.
When the Voice polling figures enter the realm of the Republic Referendum, they start to realise they’ve stuffed up.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 14, 2023 3:50 pm

m0nty at 2:33

Where’s the evidence?!

Real lawyers are going to present it to court, Dennis

Are Muellerween tickets still valid?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 14, 2023 3:52 pm

The difference is, civilisations that look backwards never build a future.

Keep picking at the scabs, the wounds will never heal!

Tom
Tom
August 14, 2023 3:58 pm

Breaking news: Former triple Richmond premiership coach Damien Hardwick is expected to be named the new coach of the Gold Coast Suns next week on a five-year deal, replacing Stuart Dew who was dumped mid-year.

Dew was a good coach trying to run a club on the smell of an oily rag. The AFL is a ruthless business.

Rabz
August 14, 2023 3:58 pm

As Tropic Thunder marks 15 years since its premiere … many scandals have plagued its success – from Blackface outrage to anti-Semitism fury

Not to mention less than kind portrayals of Hollyweird movie moguls.

Presumably Les “we don’t negotiate with terrorists” Grossman couldn’t be reached for comment.

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 4:02 pm

From The Oz, mushroom lady……

Mushroom deaths suspect Erin Patterson tells police she also fell sick

The woman police believe cooked a mushroom meal that killed three people has told investigators the possibly toxic ingredients were bought at the shops and that she had also fallen ill.

Erin Patterson, 48, made a statement to police claiming that her two children also were absent from the lunch on July 29, the ABC reported.

She also admits lying to police about the use of a dehydrator, falsely claiming she had dumped it a long time ago.

The report quotes Ms Patterson saying she also fell sick from the beef Wellington that was served at the lunch that killed three elderly people, including her former in-laws.

In her statement, Ms Patterson strenuously denied any wrongdoing.

She was taken to a Melbourne hospital for treatment, she claims.

“I am now wanting to clear up the record because I have become extremely stressed and overwhelmed by the deaths of my loved-ones,’’ the ABC reported.

“I am hoping this statement might help in some way. I believe if people understood the background more they would not be so quick to rush to judgment.”

She said she regretted giving police a no comment interview soon after the deaths.

Ms Patterson alleged that she served the meal and the three dead, Don Patterson, Gail Patterson and Heather Wilkinson, had chosen their own plates.

The mushrooms were button mushrooms bought from the supermarket and dried mushrooms from an unspecified Asian grocery in Melbourne.

The ABC said she had told health officials where she had bought the mushrooms but was not able to name the specific Asian food store.

Ms Patterson claimed she was at the hospital with her children discussing the food dehydrator when her ex-husband asked: “Is that what you used to poison them?”

“I had been close with Simon’s parents for a long period of time. Our relationship had continued in a fairly amicable way after I finished the relationship with their son Simon,” the ABC reported her saying.

“Our relationship was affected to some degree by seeing them less after my marriage breakdown with Simon however I have never felt differently towards his parents.

“I had a deep love and respect for Simon’s parents and had encouraged my children to spend time with their grandparents as I believed they were exceptional role models.”

There is no way in the world she bought those those mushrooms from the supermarket and an Asian grocery in Melbourne.

Delta A
Delta A
August 14, 2023 4:03 pm

For those Cats planning to travel to Japan soon: I just happened across a site on Facebook titled ‘Japan – The Government of Japan’ which has a multitude of posts on Japanese tourist sites, customs, celebrations/anniversaries and industry etc. Might be worth a look.

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 4:17 pm

It’s very easy to get a clear understanding of how the Universe really works if you can just leave your physics toilet training behind.

Emily Noether. Look at her name. They are laughing at us. Emily No-Aether. You gotta let her go Dot.

TISM told us to read the stop sign and no good can come out of not reading the street signs.

NO HAWKING. That’s what the street sign says. NO HAWKING. You got to read the street sign DOT.

NO HAWKING. You got to leave that three gimp fantasy behind. Nothing the puppeteers had the three gimps ………… communicating, had anything to do with science.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 14, 2023 4:18 pm

Ms Patterson claimed she was at the hospital with her children discussing the food dehydrator when her ex-husband asked: “Is that what you used to poison them?”

Hahahaaaaa.

Gold.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 14, 2023 4:19 pm

She also admits lying to police about the use of a dehydrator, falsely claiming she had dumped it a long time ago.

If that statement was in a written format and appropriately signed and acknowledged, she is liable to the penalties of perjury – regardless of how stressed and/or wompus she is.

The End.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 4:20 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
August 14, 2023 4:22 pm

Stephen Forster
49 mins ago
I’m hoping the letter on suicide rates from the UKR high command was some kind of translation, because even 419 scammers can produce better forgeries! The stamp did not cover the lettering amid other things.

Great article.

author
Simplicius The Thinker
39 mins ago

Recall that that letter is not the original, that is an english translation via an AI program which superimposes that lettering on it.

You’re probably not familiar with the services like https://translate.yandex.ru/ocr which can automatically translate pages like that.

Try it out, feed some screenshot of a different language into it and you’ll see what it does.

Here’s the original if you want to compare:

comment image

“The order of the commander of the 124th territorial defense brigade appeared on the network, according to which the commander of unit A-7053 (124th TerO brigade) ordered his personnel, when entering combat duty, in position, not to issue ammunition to the mobilized arrived citizens, as many of these same citizens commit suicide”

mem
mem
August 14, 2023 4:24 pm

There is no way in the world she bought those those mushrooms from the supermarket and an Asian grocery in Melbourne.

The dried mushrooms from Asian stores are not suitable for a Beef Wellington either in texture or flavour. And if you had mushrooms from the supermarket why would you add the dried ones when they need advance soaking?And why did she ditch the dehydrator? As for she was sick too. meh.

Lysander
Lysander
August 14, 2023 4:25 pm

On the other hand, plenty of evidence of dodgdy voting practices on plenty of videos (!) in 2020. But I’m thinking Fat Boy doesn’t get out much…

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 4:25 pm

She’s a chick she’ll get five years and serve three.

Fuggedaboutit.

m0nty
m0nty
August 14, 2023 4:26 pm

JC, I am not a lawyer and neither are you so any bickering between us about evidence will not prove anything. I am hearing that Fani has the stuff, we shall see.

I will note that there seems to be a pattern to this stuff. Republicans accuse Democrats of hacking, then engage themselves in hacking to try in vain to prove there was hacking. End result: only one side was hacking. Watergate, Hunter’s laptop, Georgia, it’s all the same stupid play by Republican idiots.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 14, 2023 4:27 pm

Andrew likes to get back inside where he can warm himself in front of a roaring fire with a 10-year old.

And sometimes a drink.

There’d be a few upticks in that…

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 4:28 pm

Hunter’s laptop

How may I ask was this “hacked”?

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 4:29 pm

“The dried mushrooms from Asian stores are not suitable for a Beef Wellington either in texture or flavour. And if you had mushrooms from the supermarket why would you add the dried ones when they need advance soaking?And why did she ditch the dehydrator? As for she was sick too. meh.”

Umm yes, exactly what I was thinking. I detect a few porkies.

An Agatha Christie poisoner would be much, much smarter.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 14, 2023 4:30 pm

I am hearing that Fani has the stuff, we shall see.

Trusted bloggers.

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 4:30 pm

Has the pervert apologist punches any Nazis today?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 14, 2023 4:30 pm

Japan Guide is the site you want. The trains work so well it is hardly worth changing accommodation when day tripping is so easy. Go early come back late. Longer stays were cheaper at the time. Get Carpe’s address, he’s likely to be off on a tropical island. Makes it even cheaper. I’m sure he won’t mind. A week in each place is enough to whet the appetite.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 14, 2023 4:32 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 14, 2023 4:32 pm

Fat boy’s back in the basement. Milko must be around.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 14, 2023 4:32 pm

Might be a good time to pick up a dehydrator at Vinnies.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 14, 2023 4:34 pm

Sun dried tomatoes are about as out of fashion as fortified wine.

Robert Sewell
August 14, 2023 4:37 pm

Wally Dali

Aug 14, 2023 12:44 PM
Here’s a thought- Albanese calls Dec 10 referendum- everyone is too busy at end of school, shopping office party boozing, or away on holidays so massive spark in postal votes -result handed down week before Christmas, and lo! And behold! goodwill and bonhomie delivers a convincing win, no questions asked by the press corps (work experience kids cos the editors are all on well earned six week breaks anyway)

Yep. I mentioned this a few days ago.
Despite the polling which shows a resounding defeat for the Referendum, what will the man on the 6pm bus do when it gets passed two days later with a staggering margin of 70+% in every state?

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 4:37 pm

Fat central coast Kramer:

LISTEN TO ME GUYS ABOUT JOE VIALLS AND PHYSICS! THE TRUTH IS IN SONGS WRITTEN BY TISM, BUT NO GIMPS, OKAY!!!

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 4:43 pm

When we say no to Noether, which is no to No-Aether and we say yes to logic in physics, we quickly conclude that new matter and energy are being created all the time. We are then kind of obliged to track down where this is happening.

Existing matter must assist the creation of new matter or else each act of new matter creation would constitute a seperate miracle. Added to that if you look around space you see huge amounts of space and comparatively small amounts of matter. It stands to reason than that the matter is “made on location” in other words beneath our feet.

Earth is a complicated place so where else do we see obvious pristine matter creation? Sure the ice volcanoes on Pluto. But Enceladus is even better since it might be we have the rate of new matter creation thanks to the material bursting forth from its total ice cover.

Seems like Enceladus is making at least 200 kg of new matter per second and spraying some of the older stuff out into space through geysers.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 14, 2023 4:44 pm

This dude is incredibly good. Amazingly good.

Dang!

If her were a Cat I would uptick him with unstinting profusion. (A high Cat-compliment indeed.)

The civil explanation and the finish with the handshake was gold – reflected well on both of them.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 4:45 pm

Albanese calls Dec 10 referendum

I think you mean Sat 9th – because the 10th is a Sunday.

The latest date to call would be November 6th, a Monday (33 days).

The earliest the writs could be issued would be 12th October, a Thursday (58 days).

(Counting might be off here).

Despite the polling which shows a resounding defeat for the Referendum, what will the man on the 6pm bus do when it gets passed two days later with a staggering margin of 70+% in every state?

Why didn’t they cheat last time? Being a republic per se is more popular than a monarchy, but the model cannot be agreed upon. The voice won’t win any State as of the most recent polling.

I’m not saying our elections are clean (apparently 20,000 fake votes in 2010) but this outright cheating hasn’t really happened yet.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 14, 2023 4:48 pm

Fatso

I am hearing that Fani has the stuff, we shall see.

Aaaaanyyyy daaaay noooow. Walls are closing in!!! Fani-ween coming up? A politically inspired DA will always claim to “have the stuff”, but she would say that, wouldn’t she?

Slow down, you’ll go blinder than you did during 2017 and 2018.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
August 14, 2023 4:50 pm

Somehow I think that mushroom statement was drafted by Lionel Hutz. The dehydrator thing doesn’t seem to be have been thought through and I haven’t noticed the wallopers calling for people to throw out the dried shiitakes either. Just saying…

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 14, 2023 4:50 pm

dover0beach
Aug 14, 2023 4:32 PM
monty still thinks Russia colluded with Trump, not surprised he thinks Hunter’s laptop was ‘hacked’.

Yet the evidence that the Bidens actually colluded with Wussia is far stronger.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 14, 2023 4:51 pm

The “Worst Australian” wants to know if I’m interested in having breakfast with Anthony Albanese.

No thanks, I’m having my hemorrhoids examined that day.

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 4:52 pm

we quickly conclude that new matter and energy are being created all the time.

At the cosmic scale, there isn’t a hard and fast rule about this being precluded.

Seems like Enceladus is making at least 200 kg of new matter per second and spraying some of the older stuff out into space through geysers.

??? Why do you say this? For off rotations like galaxy rotations can be explained by better observational data of mass/objects and accepting modified gravity like MOND or QI.

Equivalence principle? Sure, now prove to me why it holds for all time and space? McCulloch (QI originator) has 20+ peer-reviewed journals with empirical data; the equivalence principle may not be true at the cosmic scale either.

You assume SR is wrong because you are a racist freak. SR is not complete (by satellite observation) and conceptualizing space-time as ether does tend to suggest SR can be correct with minor modifications.

You know so little about this Graeme you could be a “science journalist”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 14, 2023 4:55 pm

Breakfast with Gina Rinehart, now that would be another issue, altogether.

Gina Rinehart: Australia’s wealthiest person uses Bush Summit speech to push for nuclear power
Rebecca Le MayThe West Australian
Mon, 14 August 2023 2:20PM

Gina Rinehart is pushing for Australia to become nuclear-powered instead of upsetting farmers with more “bird-killing wind generators and massive solar panel stretches”.

The billionaire used the final sentence of her keynote speech at The Australian Bush Summit on Monday to call for a national foray into the contentious energy source — easing into the topic with a joke purportedly by nuclear physicist Edward Teller, who helped Robert Oppenheimer produce the first nuclear bomb.

“Let’s not upset many farmers with bird-killing wind generators and massive solar panel stretches, and bring on clean, safe, nuclear energy please Australia,” the nation’s wealthiest person went on to say, drawing applause from about half of the audience.

The iron ore magnate also used her speech to call on Federal and State governments to cut “tape” and provide “real assistance” to help farmers meet net zero, crediting her father Lang Hancock for proposing governments cut tax for those employed in or investing in Australia’s north above the 26th parallel.

“He came up with many practical ideas, as you often do living in the bush, where you either make do or do without,” she said.

“Including after finding significant iron ore deposits, he decided to lobby for the lifting of the government iron ore export embargo, which took him some eight years of persistence to achieve.”

Mrs Rinehart also took aim at the media for coverage last week of the bitter court battle between the company she inherited from her dad and the firm founded by his business partner Peter Wright, over royalties and ownership of the multi-billion dollar Hope Downs iron ore mines in the Pilbara.

Hancock Prospecting barrister Noel Hutley spectacularly revealed to the court that the sector pioneer had bumped his daughter off of boards and offered to buy her out for $5 million.

“Sadly and wrongly, Lang Hancock deliberately went about to deprive Mrs Rinehart of the ability to obtain information by removing her from all positions,” Mr Hutley said.

The Wright camp argues that an agreement struck between the two sides in 1987 still stands and has the documents to prove it — including a letter between Lang and Gina in which they discuss how Hope Downs is a partnership asset.

Mrs Rinehart told the event that her family was “close and trusting”, adding that “used to be well known in Western Australia”.

“It’s saddening that media likes to ignore the good if you’re successful and not a socialist, even in the last few days, ignoring the tight bond this West Australian family had for decades,” she said.

Reporters had instead just referred to “some correspondences, when I was very concerned about our family company over a few years — and rightly so — without adding the truth that dad and I had again become very close pre-his sad departure in 1992”.

“And I admire his moral and courageous stand in his final weeks,” she said.

Mrs Rinehart’s rare public appearance came as her daughter Bianca surprised onlookers by turning up at WA’s Supreme Court for the Hope Downs trial, watching on as her legal team accused her mother of a “calculated and deliberate fraud”.

They argue that the 69-year-old used her position in family companies, after her father died, to move interests in Hope Downs out of a trust left for the benefit of her children — and into her control.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 4:56 pm

JC, I am not a lawyer and neither are you so any bickering between us about evidence will not prove anything. I am hearing that Fani has the stuff, we shall see.

You have said nothing about the Bunter Hiden and dad’s collaboration influence peddling around the world for many millions of dollars, for which there is overwhelming evidence. However, you are now pointing out Trump’s guilt based on a piece in the NRO that makes no mention of any crimes. Additionally, you brought up Watergate even though the Hiden influence peddling is Everest sized.

I will note that there seems to be a pattern to this stuff. Republicans accuse Democrats of hacking, then engage themselves in hacking to try in vain to prove there was hacking. End result: only one side was hacking. Watergate, Hunter’s laptop, Georgia, it’s all the same stupid play by Republican idiots.

Oh, so Bunter’s laptop is Russian disinformation, is it? You big fat turnip.

Bill P
Bill P
August 14, 2023 4:59 pm

Shortly after a local had to pluck one of the chaps out of the surf as he sucked way out.

Come oonn rip!

Cassie of Sydney
August 14, 2023 5:02 pm

““It’s saddening that media likes to ignore the good if you’re successful and not a socialist, even in the last few days, ignoring the tight bond this West Australian family had for decades,” she said.”

Gina’s right.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 5:02 pm

Boambee John

Yet the evidence that the Bidens actually colluded with Wussia is far stronger.

WTF? Far stronger?

It’s as strong as 20 random witnesses seeing a murder on a busy street in broad daylight. There’s nothing contestable about this and even the failed plea bargain didn’t contest any of the evidence contained in the laptop.

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 5:04 pm

Well think what it would take to cause a continuous geyser on Enceladus without new matter creation at the core?

On earth the ground breaths out Radon all the time and doesn’t breath in anything. The undersea volcanoes never stop. Capped oil fields gain pressure and uncapped ones can still keep a few nodding donkeys going forever. Rift valleys overpower alleged subduction zones; it’s not even close.

The size of dinosaurs indicate a planet with less gravity. The Pacific Ocean floor is only sixty million years old where it’s oldest. The Atlantic not much older. Get rid of both and the continents fit together nicely but on a much smaller planet. Spring waters never stop flowing ……

And on and on and on. But earth is complicated. So one can look further afield to get some distance from the problem.

Actually earths radius grows somewhere between 18-22mm per year but the physics reprobates don’t want to know.

Robert Sewell
August 14, 2023 5:04 pm

calli

Aug 14, 2023 1:47 PM
A man in women’s clothing is a transvestite. Not a “transitioner”.

No Calli. He’s just another freak in a world that is oversupplied with freaks.
I would like them to just piss off and take their freaky behaviour with them, but I’d also like to wake up tomorrow a 25 year old Billionaire and the chances of that are about the same.
Sad face.

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 5:07 pm

Every core aspect of special relativity is not merely a mistake. They are premeditated group lies.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 5:07 pm

The size of dinosaurs indicate a planet with less gravity.

How so? They were floating around in the air?

shatterzzz
August 14, 2023 5:08 pm

Harsh but fair summation of Hunter Biden ..!
https://ibb.co/R41tCMt

Dot
Dot
August 14, 2023 5:09 pm

Oh dear Graeme you actually advanced evidence of some kind then had to go on a silly racist rant about a proven and provable theory being a package of intentional untruths.

shatterzzz
August 14, 2023 5:12 pm

We are already paying reparations, just informally.

yep! .. $39billion and rising .. every, bloody, year1 .. FFS!

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 5:13 pm

No no. There has never been any evidence ever for special relativity but it’s not a mistake. Every aspect of it is deliberate. Every aspect of it is s lie. And forcing people to believe things that cannot be true under any circumstance is a power play. It’s a method for institutional takeover.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 5:15 pm

GB

Stop. Just stop now.

cohenite
August 14, 2023 5:15 pm

JC, I am not a lawyer and neither are you so any bickering between us about evidence will not prove anything. I am hearing that Fani has the stuff, we shall see.

Dickless I think you should bicker with head prefect: he enjoys a good bickering; and since you have no dick all you can do is bick.

The only stuff fani has is shit between her ears.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 14, 2023 5:18 pm

We are already paying reparations, just informally.

Payments to those claiming to be of the “Stolen Generations”, based purely on your say so?

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 5:18 pm

But JC it was all a premeditated lie and it must have been formulated well in advance of finding a figurehead to carry it.

That’s what institutional takeover is all about. Setting up a filter where you wind up with the last people there believing obvious lies through blind faith.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 5:22 pm

Dickless I think you should bicker with head prefect:

I thought Fatboy is crotchless and Eddles was dickless.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 14, 2023 5:24 pm

JC

You know him personally. Is Fatboy really as stupid as his comments indicate?

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 5:25 pm

You know him personally. Is Fatboy really as stupid as his comments indicate?

Totally. Even more so.

cohenite
August 14, 2023 5:26 pm

I thought Fatboy is crotchless and Eddles was dickless.

I’ll follow your advice; so which is it?

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 5:31 pm

I’ll follow your advice; so which is it?

You’re asking me? Shouldn’t you be asking yourself?

Willem Pasterkamp
Willem Pasterkamp
August 14, 2023 5:31 pm

JC with our gravity the giraffe fills a niche previously filled by an animal about 30 times its weight.

The giraffes niche is that of the animal that can outreach all others to munch the higher leaves. It’s already about as tall as it could possibly be in that nice with our gravity.

Lee
Lee
August 14, 2023 5:35 pm

Yet the evidence that the Bidens actually colluded with Wussia is far stronger.

Not to mention the Biden Crime Family covert dealings with China and Ukraine.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 14, 2023 5:37 pm

Yes campaigner accuses Jacinta Nampijinpa Price of ‘hate’ for First Nations people over welcome to country stance

From P’s link

Mr Stewart, a Nira illim bulluk man, said the ceremony should be seen as a unifying practice which celebrates the Indigenous history of Australia.

Marcus Stewart’s claim to Aboriginal heritage is based on the fact that his great great grandfather was indigenous – the rest of his ancestry is Scots.

Tom
Tom
August 14, 2023 5:40 pm

Breaking: a Muslim calling himself a “slave of Allah” has caused the aborting of a Malaysian Airlines from Sydney to Kuala Lumpur.

The A330 took off after 1pm, but the crew turned back after the Muslim apparently began making threats. The plane is now parked on one of the runways at Sydney airport.

Tom
Tom
August 14, 2023 5:41 pm

… flight …

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 14, 2023 5:42 pm

I’m not saying our elections are clean (apparently 20,000 fake votes in 2010) but this outright cheating hasn’t really happened yet

I’m no apologist for the AEC but Oz elections feel pretty good. The most egregious attempt was the WA Senate rerun which crucified the start of the Abbott government and got another Green up in the Senate from memory. Fun and games in Indee but I would need to be convinced that changed the result anyway.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 14, 2023 5:44 pm

So…reparations are supposed to be restorative. In the case of WWI it was the destruction wrought on France and something for the cost of fighting the war on the allied powers.

In the current climate of the US they are envisioned as making up for the disparity between where Blacks are now compared to where they would have been based on the value of the fruits of their slavery.

But here? In America you could make the point that Slavery was inflicted on people. They would have otherwise been left in Africa but the slavers, trader, and owners took that option away.

No, here reparations would be to restore to Aborigines the state they would have held without colonisation.

So, already we are paying near $40,000,000 a year for a society that would have had its wealth calculated in terms of selected stones, pointed sticks, and marsupial pelts.

Outside of that no amount of money can restore the magical existence they seem to show absolutely no desire to rejoin. They prefer iPhones to hunting for dinner.

calli
calli
August 14, 2023 5:45 pm

Just looked on Flight radar. The poor buggers are still sitting out on the runway. MAS 122.

m0nty
m0nty
August 14, 2023 5:47 pm

Ah yes, this evidence you lot have of Biden corruption, I recall a bunch of Republicans crowing that they had the stuff on old Joe… only to bring precisely zero to the table last week.

Hunter got wildly overpaid as a corporate consultant for not much return, sure. Is that evidence of corruption? No, it’s evidence that corporate consultants are always wildly overpaid. Biggest bunch of capitalist bloodsucking leeches outside of whatever JC calls it that he does.

If Trump got accused of doing exactly the same stuff as Hunter, he would laugh it off by saying that just proves he’s a good businessman, and you lot would applaud lustily.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 5:49 pm

It’s about productivity.
If indigenous kids need a lot more resources to stop them ending up on welfare or incarcerated, it’s a pretty simple answer.
How to ensure delivery & accountability is a very hard logistical process while you have politicians and rent seekers trying to get their snouts in the trough.
Part one is a maths equation.
Part two is trying to a cow from mooing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 14, 2023 5:50 pm

Hunter got wildly overpaid as a corporate consultant for not much return, sure.

His real talent is as an artist apparently.

calli
calli
August 14, 2023 5:52 pm

Heh. Seven News highlighting the Matilda’s and pharmaceuticals in their news preview.

Meanwhile, an aircraft is sitting on the tarmac at Mascot with a potential terrorist on board.

Gotta run the big stories.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 5:52 pm

This is why the student migrant is so productive.
You pay zero towards the first 18-19 years of their life.
They come here paying 50k per year for uni.
Then they get a job & pay taxes for the next 50-60 years.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 14, 2023 5:53 pm

STOP a cow from mooing.
FMD.

Lysander
Lysander
August 14, 2023 5:55 pm

Here’s a thought- Albanese calls Dec 10 referendum- everyone is too busy at end of school, shopping office party boozing, or away on holidays so massive spark in postal votes -result handed down week before Christmas

will there be a song too?

Do they know its Business Time At All?

At Business Time, its time that Australia paid
At Business Time, all the whiteys will be played.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 14, 2023 5:56 pm

Oh dear, Darth Monty has his double light saber out and he’s twirling it with menace!

Yet the evidence that the Bidens actually colluded with Wussia is far stronger.

Amusingly yes.

Exclusive: Hunter Biden’s Kazakh business partner Kenes Rakishev helped supply armored vehicles to Putin-backed forces that invaded Ukraine alongside Russia, report claims (12 Aug)

Wouldn’t it be ironic if tanks Biden supplied to Ukraine were fighting with tanks Biden supplied to Russia? Ten percent to the big guy!

Robert Sewell
August 14, 2023 5:58 pm

Ms Patterson alleged that she served the meal and the three dead, Don Patterson, Gail Patterson and Heather Wilkinson, had chosen their own plates.

Hmm.
Poison mushies rubbed on the plates, with just a single swipe to one to provide a sickness excuse?

Lysander
Lysander
August 14, 2023 5:59 pm

the fact that Munted is defending a bloke who sex trafficked women (and more) as evidenced on his own computer, that he was so stoned he couldn’t remember where he dropped it off… tells you all you need to know about the turd.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 14, 2023 5:59 pm

You know so little about this Graeme you could be a “science journalist”.

Harsh but fair.

JC
JC
August 14, 2023 6:01 pm

Ah yes, this evidence you lot have of Biden corruption, I recall a bunch of Republicans crowing that they had the stuff on old Joe… only to bring precisely zero to the table last week.

Fatboy, you can’t be serious. There was a daisy chain of LLC’s ( Limited Liability Corps) set up with no economic purpose other than to receive and then redistribute proceeds from influence peddling to family members.

Hunter got wildly overpaid as a corporate consultant for not much return, sure. Is that evidence of corruption?

Of course it is. He’s a drug addicted clown and no one would’ve hired the moron unless they were attempting to get something from the father. That’s why Decrepit was on about 20 phone calls with Bunter trying to get cashola from those who wanted to pay for favors.

No, it’s evidence that corporate consultants are always wildly overpaid. Biggest bunch of capitalist bloodsucking leeches outside of whatever JC calls it that he does.

LOL. Bunter wasn’t working for Boston Consulting you oversized turnip. He was finagling cash for favors. Corporate consultant my arse.

If Trump got accused of doing exactly the same stuff as Hunter, he would laugh it off by saying that just proves he’s a good businessman, and you lot would applaud lustily.

Sure.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 14, 2023 6:02 pm

m0nty
Aug 14, 2023 5:47 PM
Ah yes, this evidence you lot have of Biden corruption, I recall a bunch of Republicans crowing that they had the stuff on old Joe… only to bring precisely zero to the table last week.

Hunter got wildly overpaid as a corporate consultant for not much return, sure. Is that evidence of corruption? No, it’s evidence that corporate consultants are always wildly overpaid.

Keep squirming Fatso, someone might believe you. Or might not.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 14, 2023 6:05 pm

The entertainment provided by m0nty justifies not banning him.

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