Democracy in its death throes


The second amendment to the U.S. Constitution reads: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

Important here to understand the thinking. If the government has an army, then it’s important that people have the power to resist a tyrannous government. All of that is out of the window. The Founding Fathers wouldn’t recognise the place. Governments do what they like, often in league with their putative political opponents. I doubt the majority of Americans want hordes of assorted people, many of dubious character, pouring across the southern border, demanding shelter, welfare, free medical treatment, and free schooling for their children. I doubt they want American energy made more expensive. Want jobs shipped to China. Want to fund Zelensky without limit. Want transgenderism infecting their military forces. Too bad, they’ll never be asked.

What majority of adult Australians would have voted for enormous surges of non-discriminatory immigration. The essence of inviting people to join you is to discriminate. Certainly a Fabian club wouldn’t have me. Neither would a gay or lesbian club. That’s fine by me. Equally, I would think those who are culturally Christian / Western would be shy of inviting too many into their country with culturally clashing values. But no one gave them, in this case us, a chance to have a say.

I see that Rishi Sunak won’t hold a plebiscite in the U.K. on net zero. Of course not. He and most of his colleagues and the British Labour Party and green hysterics might have to explain such policy; lay out the pros and cons. Explain exactly what difference it would make to the global temperature. We shouldn’t forget that Scott Morrison signed us up to net zero – effectively on a unity ticket with Labor. Were we ever asked? Well, there was an election. Yes, between those favouring net zero and those favouring it with somewhat more enthusiasm.

The response to Covid was also moulded via a unity ticket. Whatever excesses the government of the day indulged in, the opposition wanted more. No-one out in voter land was ever asked.

Take the Voice. What an absolutely atrocious, anti-democratic, racist, apartheid-infused, proposition. Yet, where were the opposition parties for so long. Even now Liberal panty-waists in the federal parliament and in state parliaments are supporting the Yes case. Give us all a break. Give me an out-and-out commie, who supports the Voice as yet another cancer to eat away at Western civilisation, than these useful idiots. And remember, it’s only going to a vote because it has to.

I am afraid that democracy is on its last legs. There are simply too many like-minded communists and fellow-travellers throughout the universities, media, the bureaucracies, the political class. It’s back to the future. God-Kings? Not quite, but it ain’t people power. That brief democratic interlude is on the way out. Think about it. We have politicians who think that they can control the weather. I doubt they’ll ever give back power to lesser beings.


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Damon
Damon
August 20, 2023 1:08 am

A democratic system is fine if you accept that other people don’t owe you anything.

Tom
Tom
August 20, 2023 3:30 am

I am afraid that democracy is on its last legs.

No it’s not.

It’s just that, after the tumultuous past century and a half and the millions of human deaths fighting tyranny, we’re still being dragged back to the barbarous past by anti-democratic fascists who’ve worked out how to control Western civilisation.

The only good thing that’s happened since the mid-19th century is that we’ve seen the murderous consequences of bowing to tyranny.

Freedom and democracy are humanity’s greatest ideals. They are fragile and perennially threatened.

Actually, it’s astonishing that godless modern evil-doers are so lacking in self-awareness because they continually clothe themselves in a new form of childish hyper-moralism — leftism — where they convince themselves of their righteousness.

While we are on this earth, our struggle to be free of evil defines us.

miltonf
miltonf
August 20, 2023 6:08 am

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. The legacy meja have been a huge part of the problem for the last 50-60 years. I would have hoped after 25 years of the internet that it would have died. Just look at the way we moved from assimilation to multiculturalism- no one was asked and again it was imposed by the political class.

flyingduk
flyingduk
August 20, 2023 8:10 am

I served in Iraq and Afghanistan, and in both places I saw, first hand, how ‘concerned local citizens’, armed with personal or even improvised weapons, can successfully resist even high end militaries. All that is required is the will.

Us here in the west will, eventually, say ‘enough’ to our governments, but things are still too good, the people will need to be hurt a lot more before that happens.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 9:34 am

We’re headed for a new form of feudalism, where fragmentation will make it easier for the puppeteers to put us against each other.

Short of highly organised, unarmed, militia (in name only), no form of government has anything to fear from the population. Fear is the most effective human motivator.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 9:35 am

Pit us, not put us.

Ceres
Ceres
August 20, 2023 9:38 am

Yes too many commies and brain washed leftie people/ organisations who have not suffered yet, under Labor policies.
Until people are freezing in their homes, food is scarce, social media censored, and their cars are banned, they will not wake up and vote the mongrels out (perhaps). Don’t forget many enjoy authoritarianism and inflicting their tyranny on others.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 9:43 am

It’s about time conservatives were recognised in this country. We don’t have a voice, though. We need one. A voice that is anchored in the constitution. A separate conservative parliament which will provide ‘advice’ regarding policy issues affecting conservatives. Then truth-telling and reparations for the denigration and destruction of the institutions and values that conservatism so faithfully built.

We need a referendum for this.

duncanm
duncanm
August 20, 2023 9:52 am

Adams knew all nations eventually fail. Churchill’s least-worst, as it were.
..

Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty.

Chris
Chris
August 20, 2023 9:52 am

‘concerned local citizens’, armed with personal or even improvised weapons, can successfully resist even high end militaries. All that is required is the will.

There were three of us this morning
I’m the only one this evening

F*** that. If we start now, we might be able to do it without using the lampposts and AKs.

Turnip
Turnip
August 20, 2023 10:08 am

concerned local citizens’, armed with personal or even improvised weapons, can successfully resist even high end militaries.

Somehow I doubt that if it comes to this , that our government would put the same rules in place that restricted our troops in modern theatres.
They would see the threat as personal and act viciously against any local threat….see our wonderful police during covid or how the Dems have gone after anyone involved in J6 activities compared to BLM riots.

Damon
Damon
August 20, 2023 10:35 am

“how the Dems have gone after anyone involved in J6 activities compared to BLM riots”

But the BLM riots were ‘mostly peaceful’ while the J6 demonstration was a ‘threat to democracy’.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
August 20, 2023 11:28 am

I want to write something about the venerated 2A. But, whatever. I’ll believe it is worth something when I see it in action.

Just keep a stern look and remember proper trigger discipline for your group photo.

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
August 20, 2023 12:44 pm

Gloomy, but accurate.

The likely “Voice” referendum outcome of a resounding “No” will ensure that the Australian people are never again asked their opinion on any important future direction by any shade of government.

People can’t be trusted to vote the way the Lords and Masters have decreed.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 1:11 pm

Following Pedro’s comment: Is it possible to change the criteria for referenda?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2023 1:44 pm

The natural form of government is an oligarchy.

Unfortunately it’s also the least efficient form of government.

Gravity always sucks democracies back into oligarchies since powerful cliques want to feather their own nests and protect themselves while at it. That then demotivates the people. Why work hard when the oligarchs will just steal it from you? That’s where we are now.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 2:09 pm

I wonder what the percentage is of people who don’t hold a strong set of beliefs, but simply lean towards whichever ‘side’ is winning (or offers the most to them, personally)?

The latter being a trait which I imagine aligns more closely with the innate human urge to survive. (I don’t know enough about Maslow’s hierarchy of needs to know if it has been debunked or superceded, but I wonder if we as a species are devolving on the social level; becoming less communal, and more inward-looking. Or have we always been like that?).

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2023 2:54 pm

Muddy
Aug 20, 2023 1:11 PM
Following Pedro’s comment: Is it possible to change the criteria for referenda?

If you mean the criteria for passing one (majority of votes in a majority of states), IIRC, they are in the Constitution, so it would have to be by referendum.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 4:11 pm

Yes. Thanks, B.J.

Our Lords & Ladies of Fire (Burn the serfs!) will have to tweak the coercion then.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 4:18 pm

Hmmm, how long until digital I.D. is mandatory for voting?

Wouldn’t it be ‘covenient’ for the drones if their digital I.D. could also be used as a credit/debit card?

Getting off track here, but dang, Smurfland is looking gloomy.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2023 4:20 pm

Convenient.
*Sigh*

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2023 4:44 pm

Muddy
Aug 20, 2023 4:18 PM
Hmmm, how long until digital I.D. is mandatory for voting?

Unlikely. While electoral rorting seems fairly limited here, a digital ID would eliminate all cases of “Vote early, vote often” and the dead voting, which could be enough to swing some marginal seats.

It will certainly never happen in the US.

Robert Sewell
August 20, 2023 7:24 pm

Muddy:

Hmmm, how long until digital I.D. is mandatory for voting?

Don’t give the bastards ideas, Muddy. They’ll be on that like a shot and it will go straight onto your social credit score no matter which way you vote.

Robert Sewell
August 20, 2023 7:26 pm

Boambee John:

Unlikely. While electoral rorting seems fairly limited here, a digital ID would eliminate all cases of “Vote early, vote often” and the dead voting, which could be enough to swing some marginal seats.

You’ve not been paying attention – the programmers will decide how you and the nation voted.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2023 8:44 pm

Robert S

In which case, why do they need the Digital ID?

NFA
NFA
August 20, 2023 10:02 pm

Good post Peter Smith.
Thank you.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
August 20, 2023 10:20 pm

https://youtu.be/jBkQ6kzissM
Steve trickler 9:18
Coatafine town by splinter
The best makes me want to be in it

KevinM
KevinM
August 21, 2023 6:39 am

I’m reading the comments mentioning how far the ruling class, governments have to go for the people having a gut-full and rebel.

If you look at Venezuela and other places, it is a long, long way.
We are not even on the way, let alone close to rebellion.

My prediction, never will happen in Australia and highly unlikely in the US.

Crossie
Crossie
August 21, 2023 6:59 am

Pedro the Loafer
Aug 20, 2023 12:44 PM
Gloomy, but accurate.
The likely “Voice” referendum outcome of a resounding “No” will ensure that the Australian people are never again asked their opinion on any important future direction by any shade of government.
People can’t be trusted to vote the way the Lords and Masters have decreed.

This is why the states are now putting all the Voice proposals into place, see WA, Queensland and Victoria. WA’s debacle has backfired on them but their stupid law will be reinstated as soon as the referendum is over.

The leftist oligarchy has attached themselves to this issue as it is fluid and offers the most opportunities for money and power. Now combine it with their green religion and they are unstoppable.

Crossie
Crossie
August 21, 2023 7:04 am

KevinM
Aug 21, 2023 6:39 AM
I’m reading the comments mentioning how far the ruling class, governments have to go for the people having a gut-full and rebel.
If you look at Venezuela and other places, it is a long, long way.
We are not even on the way, let alone close to rebellion.
My prediction, never will happen in Australia and highly unlikely in the US.

I agree, if Americans didn’t defend themselves against BLM and Antifa during the summer of burning they never will. All those millions of guns they own are useless artefacts.

duncanm
duncanm
August 21, 2023 8:09 am

I agree, if Americans didn’t defend themselves against BLM and Antifa during the summer of burning they never will. All those millions of guns they own are useless artefacts.

some communities in the US will defend their property and rights – witness the rooftop Koreans.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 21, 2023 8:30 am

Crossie

Some did, including a couple of DemonRats who appeared on their front doorsteps with a pistol and (IIRC) an AR-15. Again, IIRC, the local DemonRat DA was planning to charge them, but later backed off.

Muddy
Muddy
August 21, 2023 8:49 am

One of the problems with waiting for the magical ‘tipping point’ (aside from the damage incurred in the meantime), is that we imagine we’ll be able to redirect the weight & momentum against us.

Lean back in your chair until you reach the exact tipping point. Not just before, but spot on…

Roger
Roger
August 21, 2023 9:02 am

The Founding Fathers wouldn’t recognise the place.

No, but the founding fathers were also republicans, not democrats.

Note the difference (and the absence of capitalisation – I’m not referring to rpesent day political parties).

Also, in as much as the Hamilton & the Federalists saw their vision for the US enacted, they laid the foundations for the present centralised system of governance.

Thank the anti-Federalists for the Bill of Rights, something we don’t have, which at least affords some protections to the rights of Americans.

Arky
August 21, 2023 11:59 am

Tom
Aug 20, 2023 3:30 AM
I am afraid that democracy is on its last legs.

No it’s not.

It’s just that, after the tumultuous past century and a half and the millions of human deaths fighting tyranny, we’re still being dragged back to the barbarous past by anti-democratic fascists who’ve worked out how to control Western civilisation.

The only good thing that’s happened since the mid-19th century is that we’ve seen the murderous consequences of bowing to tyranny.

Freedom and democracy are humanity’s greatest ideals. They are fragile and perennially threatened

..
Well said Tom. And needed to be said.
Unfortunately, from the way opinions are going I don’t think after the covid crap and the election steal, plus the gradual reveal that mainstream media are bought for liars, no one is ready to listen.
Democracy means you lose sometimes.
Human nature means corruption.
Winning means defeating corruption and convincing a majority of your ideas.
It has always been so.

Arky
August 21, 2023 12:05 pm

What will be the death of democracy is ignoring the fact that there are external powers that would love for us to lose faith in ourselves, to turn upon ourselves and be distracted and fraught by internal conflicts.
And those powers aren’t just standing by and wishing, they are active in stirring up the emotions and setting the conditions. And have been doing so for decades.

Robert Sewell
August 21, 2023 12:19 pm

Boambee John
Aug 20, 2023 8:44 PM

Robert S

In which case, why do they need the Digital ID?

Not totally serious, BJ. My comment was a riff on Stalins “It’s not who votes that counts, it’s who counts the votes.”
And yes – we don’t need a digital ID. It’s just another instrument in the control apparatus.

Pat Mac
Pat Mac
August 21, 2023 11:18 pm

You wouldn’t want to be paranoid and read the comments on this post.
Hang on, there’s a noise at the door ??
Should I run?

Muddy
Muddy
August 21, 2023 11:20 pm

Prompted by a Powerline post:
Am I worthy of the claims of lineage I make?
Are WE worthy of the links we claim to those whose efforts (& sometimes sacrifices) built what we now witness in decay?
Do I serve or expect service?
Do I choose humility, or is it thrust upon me? (Definitely the latter).

Off topic on a rigor mortis thread, but simply pondering as procrastination.
As you were.

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