Open Thread – Weekend 26 Aug 2023


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Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 27, 2023 2:20 pm

Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has flown to Europe for a two-week holiday amid threats and speculation on her leadership.

The chook supported senseless and counter-productive lockdowns long after they could have been excused by expert ignorance. So it’s not a holiday, it’s an interview for a UN job, just like horsey-chops.

Pogria
Pogria
August 27, 2023 2:25 pm

The betrayal of the people of Laihaina during the fires by the “Emergency” powers and other assorted troughers who were responsible for their safety, reminds me of the Black Saturday fires in Victoria.
Who could ever forget that Pork Roast Christine Nixon upon being questioned as to why she left her post at the height of the fires replied, “I had to eat”.
Laihaina has practically mirrored the top down dereliction of Emergency and Local Services as at Maryville and Kinglake.

Indolent
Indolent
August 27, 2023 2:26 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 2:29 pm

Warโ€™s End: An Eyewitness Account of Americaโ€™s Last Atomic Mission by Charles W. Sweeney
The author recounts his selection as the leader of the atomic mission to Nagasaki

I’d also recommend Richard B Franks “Downfall – the End of the Japanese Empire.”
The massive Japanese buildup on Kyushu meant that any landings there may well have been defeated, and the Japanese junta in Tokyo was ready to fight to the last, irrespective of losses.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2023 2:33 pm

JC

Aug 27, 2023 1:38 PM

I predict [Melbourne] is on the path to becoming another LA โ€ฆ a group of suburbs in search of a city.

During covid, they basically smothered the CBD with bike lanes and cancelled ~30% off the street parking. I donโ€™t want to go in anymore and you donโ€™t have to with delivery service from around the world

Yes.
And that is where I don’t buy into the “Hunchback is a master politician” thing.
He is basically a thug who runs the bulldozer over anything and anyone in his way.
He thought work-from-home was going to be a winner with the public sector and large corporate workforces. And it was. But it has screwed over the CBD and Big Union Super who are heavily into office space.
He didn’t see the outfall coming and he is clueless about what to do about it. Just to add a bit of cream on top, he wanted to put a junkie injecting room right in the centre of one of the cafe precincts and next to Flinders Street Station.
He now knows he can’t do that, but he is in too deep with the SJW junkie lobby to formally cancel it.
I was talking to a bloke last week who is one of the Higher Ups on a Big Bill Project. Not sure whether he knows or is speculating, but he reckons the Grande Suburban Rail Loop is dead in the water, just waiting for the bullet in the back of the head, and Hunchback will be goneski before Santa comes.

Indolent
Indolent
August 27, 2023 2:36 pm

Robert Sewell
Aug 27, 2023 1:03 PM

Brave isnโ€™t stopping them. Perhaps you should do what I do with the Expose sites โ€“ scroll past them?

The Expose is more of an aggregation site than anything else. Lots of links. The Kissinger Report item I posted this morning is, after a short introduction, actually by Dr .Robert Malone, who is well worth heeding. Here it is:

By Dr Robert Malone

Recently, a respected colleague, Gavin DeBecker, sent me an email comprising a lengthy analysis and attached documents concerning (formerly classified) National Security Study Memorandum (NSSM) 200 titled the โ€˜Kissinger Reportโ€˜. He also provided links to associated supplemental federal government documents including the National Security Directive Memorandum 314 โ€˜Implications of Worldwide Population Growth for US Security and Overseas Interests, 11/26/75โ€˜. Gavin is a well-published author, including the pivotal work titled โ€˜The Gift of Fear : Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violenceโ€™, and he had prepared this analysis (below) while preparing a new book. His text, thoughts and analysis are shared by permission of the author.

In considering these documents, it is helpful to keep in mind that Henry Kissinger is a key mentor of Klaus Schwab, was involved (together with the CIA) in originally creating and continues to consult with the World Economic Forum as well as with the CCP/Xi Jinping.

[The short video below is not included in Dr. Maloneโ€™s article. Weโ€™ve included it as a brief introduction. The video features Dr. David Ayoub and Dr. Stan Monteith at the Radio Liberty Conference 2005. You can watch Dr. Ayoubโ€™s full presentation on Bitchute HERE or Rumble HERE. Dr. Monteith is no longer with us and his website Radio Liberty no longer exists. You can find some of his videos HERE.]
Dr. David Ayoub and Stan Monteith on NSSM 200 Govt Depopulation Policy, Radio Liberty Conference 2005 (2 mins)

It all started with a meeting held in June 1973:
Referring to a memorandum written by General Taylor, General Draper and his colleagues presented their views that the population explosion in developing countries was not only a threat to US interests in the economics and in the development of those countries but also, more fundamentally, presented a danger to the United Statesโ€™ politico military interests.

General Taylor and General Draper asked Ambassador Porter for his advice on how to proceed with the subject. They said they had talked to General Scowcroft in Mr. Kissingerโ€™s office about it in terms of the possibility of a National Security Council (โ€œNSCโ€) study. General Draper said he had written the President explaining his views that rapid population growth could endanger the concept of a generation of peace and recommending that the President speak out on this subject.

Ambassador Porter said that they were talking to someone who was already converted to this whole idea. He felt that the US population programs were not closely enough connected to the USโ€™s overall aid programs but were handled too separately. He believed there was no use pumping in aid funds and food without closer correlation with population programs.

Ambassador Porter said he thought that the Soviet Union would not be much interested in internal population programmes because, although they were interested in birth control for China, they wanted to fill their own empty space in Siberia. He agreed, however, with General Draperโ€™s argument that the Soviets should be interested, as the US is, in encouraging developing countries to reduce their rates of population growth. Ambassador Porter said he would make a formal proposal to Kissinger to put the matter on the agenda for the President-Brezhnev talks.
Ambassador Porter and Mr. Claxton both observed that it is important to be able to show abroad that we are not asking peoples of other countries to do more than we are doing at home.

General Draper then brought up his concern that the amendments to the AID bill proposed by 22 members of the House Foreign Affairs Committee would be harmful because โ€ฆ as he understood it, the earmarking for population funds which had been essential to the success of the program was being dropped. He said he would testify before the Foreign Affairs Committee the following week and would urge the Committee to leave $125 million earmarked for population programmes alone and to transfer the health subject with $25 million to the food and nutrition section.

Kissinger Report and Subsequent US Population Control Policy:
The classified National Security Study Memorandum (โ€œNSSMโ€) known as โ€˜The Kissinger Reportโ€™, undertaken at the direction of President Nixon, laid out detailed plans for population reduction in many countries. These plans became official US policy in 1975.
Note: USAID figures most prominently in the report and was a co-author, along with CIA and Department of State.
The memorandum and subsequent policies developed from the report were observed as a way the United States could use human population reduction to limit the political power of undeveloped nations, ensure the easy extraction of foreign natural resources, prevent young anti-establishment individuals from being born, and to protect American businesses abroad from interference from nations seeking to support their growing populations.

National Security Study Memorandum 200, Wikipedia
The summary of The Kissinger Report stated that:
a. actions to accommodate continued population growth up to 6 billion by the mid-21st century without massive starvation or total frustration of developmental hopes; and
b. actions to keep the ultimate level as close as possible to 8 billion rather than permitting it to reach 10 billion, 13 billion, or more.
This major objective โ€“ to not exceed 8 billion โ€“ combined with the fact that we hit the 8 billion mark in 2022 might help explain the intense urgency of so many planned and organised actions during the past three years.
Perhaps the most obvious result of covid lockdowns and the interruption of commerce is the current record number of people at risk of starvation. Before the covid era, the number of people at risk of starvation was 135 million. By the end of 2021, that had increased by another 135 million people, and in 2022, it then increased another 67 million. The result is currently about 10 million deaths from starvation, 3 million of them children.

Further reading: World Hunger Facts, Action Against Hunger
The Kissinger Report created a template and spending plan that includes:
โ€ข Fertility and contraceptive research.
โ€ข Biomedical research would be doubled.
โ€ข Field testing of existing technology.
โ€ข Development of new technology.
โ€ข Oral contraceptives (optimal steroid hormone combinations and doses for populations).
โ€ข Intra-uterine devices of differing size, shape, and bioactivity should be developed and tested to determine the optimum levels of acceptability
โ€ข Sterilisation of men and women has received wide-spread acceptance in several areas. Female sterilisation has been improved by technical advances with aparoscopes, culdoscopes, and greatly simplified abdominal surgical techniques โ€ฆ the use of tubal clips, trans-cervical approaches, and simpler techniques can be developed. For men, several current techniques hold promise but require more refinement.
โ€ข Leuteolytic and anto-progesterone approaches to fertility control including use of prostaglandins.
โ€ข Injectable contraceptives for women โ€ฆ administered by pare-professionals. Currently limited by their side effects and potential hazardsโ€ฆ can be overcome with additional research.
โ€ข Male contraceptive, in particular an injection which will be effective for specified periods of time.
โ€ข Injection which will assure a woman of regular periods. The drug would be given by pare-professionals once a month or as needed to regularise the menstrual cycle.
The report recommends population control only in Least Developed Countries (โ€œLDCโ€), and cautions that โ€œWe must take care that our activities should not give the appearance to the LDCs of an industrialised country policy directed against the LDCs,โ€ though the policy was precisely that.

The report stresses more than once that weaving the concepts of family planning into health programs is a strategy for gaining acceptance and will: โ€œhelp the US contend with the ideological charge that the US is more interested in curbing the numbers of LDC people than it is in their future and well-being. We should recognise that those who argue along ideological lines have made a great deal of the fact that the US contribution to development programs and health programs has steadily shrunk, whereas funding for population programs has steadily increased.โ€

The Report also mentioned mandatory programmes of population control: โ€œA growing number of experts are of the belief that the outlook is much harsher and far less tractable than commonly perceivedโ€ฆ the conclusion of this view is that mandatory programmes may be needed and that we should be considering these possibilities now.โ€

And asked: โ€œIs the US prepared to accept food rationing to help people who canโ€™t/wonโ€™t control their population growth? โ€ฆ Are mandatory population control measures appropriate for the US and/or for others?โ€

The Report proposes the commercial approach in which US government uses โ€œbig-medical research to improve the existing means of fertility control and to develop new ones.โ€ It favours โ€œlarge-scale programmes that will induce fertility decline in a cost-effective manner,โ€ and enthusiastically describes controversial examples, such as what it calls โ€œthe remarkably successful experiments in India in which financial incentives, along with other motivational devices, were used to get large numbers of men to accept vasectomies.โ€

The Report stated that primary emphasis on โ€œpopulation moderationโ€ should be applied to โ€œthe largest and fastest growing developing countries where there is special US political and strategic interest.โ€ In 1974, the named countries were India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, the Philippines, Thailand, Egypt, Turkey, Ethiopia and Columbia.

Note: 33 years later, in 2021, the US donated millions of mRNA vaccines to the following countries, all of which were specifically named in The Kissinger Report: Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Indonesia, Brazil, Philippines, Thailand, Ethiopia, and Columbia.

The policies expanded even further in 1976 after the NSC advocated for the use of withholding food as a strategy of influence (food power), and using military force to prevent population growth.

United Nations Fund for Population Activities (โ€œUNFPAโ€)
The Kissinger Report stated it is โ€œdesirable in terms of US interestsโ€ to work with the UNFPA which already had projects in more than 70 countries.

Pressure to develop a global strategy of population reduction was advanced to the Nixon Administration by Major General William Draper, who had been instrumental in establishing UNFPA and also co-founded the Population Crisis Committee.

UNFPA ran programs described by critics as forced abortions and coercive sterilisations. The UNFPA gave money from the US to support the Peopleโ€™s Republic of Chinaโ€™s birth control campaign, widely accused of major human rights violations, mainly on women and girls. Likewise, UNFPA provided funding for the forced sterilisation program promoted by the Indian government, exposed in 2014 when dozens of women died in โ€œsterilisation campsโ€ to which they were lured in exchange for social benefits.

The program also received funds from other governments and various US organisations, including the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.

Further reading: The Kissinger Report and the World Population Control, The Wolf Report, 27 August 2017
Top 10 Methods Used to Reduce Human Population
Here are the top 10 methods โ€œtheyโ€ are using to reduce human population down to a โ€œmanageableโ€ amount, at which point those remaining (apparently including the heirs to the fortunes of those driving this bus) will all live in a โ€œutopian societyโ€.
โ€ข Targeted sterilisation
โ€ข Wars
โ€ข No cures for diseases
โ€ข Sexually transmitted diseases
โ€ข Environmental manipulation
โ€ข Abortions
โ€ข Genetically modified organisms
โ€ข Same sex relationships
โ€ข The food supply
โ€ข Transhumanism

Wally Dalรญ
Wally Dalรญ
August 27, 2023 2:40 pm

The implied consent which accompanies midwit celebrities smooching each other also applies to implied unanimity in opinion. A middling actor who cannot politely handle a middlingly contentious issue will not stand to be overly familiar with anybody who is not a fellow traveller and bien-pensant.
Thus, anyone who is excluded from promiscuous celebrity- think Laurence Fox or Vince Vaughn- will never have their opinions or oover endorsed by the group-hug love-in of Graham Norton or Oprah.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 2:41 pm

Hmm

A lot of animal lovers are psychos.

Watched a video about lion attacks and many expressed joy in trophy hunters being mauled and eaten.

Cool, cool. Totally normal!

Also there was some idiot who reckoned he was part of an organisation called Hunt Saboteurs, who โ€œkill trophy hunters as a last resortโ€

I hope for their sake it is a kid LARPing, as trophy hunting is highly regulated and fees go to research and anti poaching patrols.

Otherwise theyโ€™ve outed themselves as the most histrionic terrorist organisation in human history.

Roger
Roger
August 27, 2023 2:41 pm

The Report stated that primary emphasis on โ€œpopulation moderationโ€ should be applied to โ€œthe largest and fastest growing developing countries where there is special US political and strategic interest.โ€ In 1974, the named countries were India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, the Philippines, Thailand, Egypt, Turkey, Ethiopia and Columbia.

That worked well then.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 2:44 pm

Started watching a thing about an abuse cover up in the JWs.

Dumb reporter after five years of work revealed there was โ€œpossibly thousands reports of alleged abuseโ€.

Yes, absolutely riveting evidence you have there friend.

Looked it up elsewhere and even the MSM think it is a dead horse, some people were abused and their abusers have already been convicted and incarcerated.

Seemed like a nothingburger so I switched it off.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2023 2:46 pm

Mother Lode

Aug 27, 2023 1:48 PM

I may rule a few people with this but could we have a dedicated โ€˜news aggregatorโ€™ thread for OldOzzie to paste his copies which he can then refer or link to on the OT?

Good idea.
Rescuing stuff from behind the paywall is often welcomed.
Maybe a link with a brief comment or first para and the source might be useful.
If I see AFR, or Oz or some other trusted source on the innernet, I might go there.
The likes of Daily Exposรฉ … not so much.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 2:46 pm

Thus, anyone who is excluded from promiscuous celebrity- think Laurence Fox or Vince Vaughn- will never have their opinions or oover endorsed by the group-hug love-in of Graham Norton or Oprah.

At least Vince Vaughan isnโ€™t tainted by The Harv or โ€œStโ€ John โ€œof Godโ€.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 2:50 pm

Population density seems to feed into homosexuality (as does antigens in the mother as family size increases) but although it is assumed that this is genetic as observed in other species; what about (for humans and otherwise) a result from mouse utopia experiment like conditions?

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 27, 2023 2:50 pm

I missed my chance to gloat on a top o’ t’ page to ye’ comment, so accept this instead.

Regarding the Unwelcome Kiss, this seems to be a traditional Spain versus a more civilised Spain. The guy grabbed his crotch on the final whistle too. Then he’s jumped onto Hermoso such that his feet were not touching the ground.
It’s all a bit patriarchal. But isn’t that Spanish culture? Or at least it was. Now their PM is saying an apology isn’t enough.
The FA President may have been upset that his exuberant congratulation was not interpreted in the manner he expected, and the player is clearly upset that she got some unwelcome lip-locking from Luis.
As always, politics is a struggle to see whose upset feelings get acknowledged, placated, and avenged with force, versus whose upset feelings get ignored, or dismissed, or stamped upon.
He didn’t think it necessary to check if it would be okay to kiss a woman he has a supervisory purely business relationship with, and in front of millions of people. This is not the same Spain of the 1980s.

Indolent
Indolent
August 27, 2023 2:50 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 2:51 pm

miltonf
Aug 27, 2023 1:38 PM
Sydneyโ€™s been like LA for decades imo with โ€˜minicitiesโ€™- Chatswood, Parramatta, Liverpool

And many are “ethnic” cities. Chatswood and Epping are largely Chinese, for example.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 2:54 pm

Berka

He could literally have limerence or romantic feelings and sexual arousal towards the team. He could have literally become besotted with them.

I used to get emotionally invested in my students and was always happy when they got jobs and succeeded. (Never in wuv).

If heโ€™s an authority figure with a similar interest and they are young and athletic, perhaps his inappropriate behaviour is a function of being lovesick.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 2:56 pm

The strange outcry on social media ahead of the Dutton episode was so severe that it forced Crabb โ€“ long known as a savvy operator on Instagram and Twitter โ€“ to take a break from her socials before the show even went to air.

Some of the extreme reactions among Crabbโ€™s followers were outrage that she was doing so much to โ€˜humaniseโ€™ Dutton, that it was โ€˜one of the most embarrassing missteps the ABC has madeโ€™, accusations of running โ€˜propagandaโ€™, and even calls for Kitchen Cabinet not to be โ€˜renewedโ€™.

Their real complaint is that, for once, Their ABC was not running leftard propaganda.

HOW DARE THEY!!!

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 2:56 pm

News just in, Hun:

An aircraft has crashed off the coast of the Northern Territory carrying US marines, with several personnel understood to be missing while others have been injured.

CareFlight was transporting three patients, two stable and one critical, from the Tiwi Islands to Royal Darwin Hospital.

The aircraft was carrying about 20 marines when it crashed on Melville Island, about 80km from Darwin.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 2:59 pm

Headline FFS:
โ€˜Vote Noโ€™ vandals target historic hotel as Long Walk sets off
Then sub-heading:
Two hooded vandals have been filmed blanketing a historic Melbourne hotel with โ€œVote Noโ€ messages as Michael Long begins his trek to Canberra in support of the Voice.

Vandals. FMD

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 3:06 pm

Roger
Aug 27, 2023 2:41 PM
The Report stated that primary emphasis on โ€œpopulation moderationโ€ should be applied to โ€œthe largest and fastest growing developing countries where there is special US political and strategic interest.โ€ In 1974, the named countries were India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico, Indonesia, Brazil, the Philippines, Thailand, Egypt, Turkey, Ethiopia and Columbia.

That worked well then.

About as well as most government run social programs.

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 3:06 pm

The case has been made (โ€œSliante,โ€ Top Ender) that, had the conquest of the Japanese Islands had lasted until mid 1947, as the Americans believed, anywhere up to thirty million Japanese civilians may well have died from starvation or disease.

The Japanese started it, the atomic missions ended it.
If the Americans had to invade mainland Japan, the Japanese were going to start executing the POWs:

The Japanese, through word and deed, made it clear that with the first American to set foot on the mainland, they would execute every Allied prisoner. In preparation, they forced the POWs to dig their own graves in the event of mass executions. Even after their surrender, they executed some American POWs.

Part of the testimony of Maj. Gen Charles W. Sweeney at a senate hearing in 1995 when the Smithsonian was going to set up an exhibit with the Enola Gay based on ‘revisionist history’ with the Japanese as victims…because ‘atomic bombs.’

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 27, 2023 3:08 pm

I used to get emotionally invested in my students and was always happy when they got jobs and succeeded.

Uhuh. And did you grab your crotch, jump onto the nearest female student, kiss her on the lips, and do all this on live television? Nah?
You have to add in all the factors.
I think an apology should have been enough, given he had already gotten a bit carried away with people he obviously didn’t know well enough.

cohenite
August 27, 2023 3:08 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 3:08 pm

Luigi the Unbelievable, โ€œNo oneโ€™s is saying that to meโ€.

At least The Great Man knew he was in a corridor.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 27, 2023 3:09 pm

Darn, I made a low-effort post. I admit it. I forgot to mention Dot’s name.

Pogria
Pogria
August 27, 2023 3:10 pm

Black Ball,
I wouldn’t be too quick to blame the “No” crowd for the vandalism. Melbourne has form when it comes to providing crimes and villains. Remember the clean cut Nazis that invaded the “Let Women Speak” rally?

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 3:10 pm

An aircraft has crashed off the coast of the Northern Territory carrying US marines,…

Wonder if it was an Osprey

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 3:10 pm

Uhuh. And did you grab your crotch, jump onto the nearest female student, kiss her on the lips, and do all this on live television? Nah?

SIMPing is the cause of suffering.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 3:13 pm

The small cadre of people handing out yes23 pamphlets on Bourke st were ignored by everyone when I went byโ€ฆ

Need to move to Sydney Rd.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 27, 2023 3:14 pm

Officer Mike Byrd Who Shot and Killed Ashli Babbitt in Cold Blood inside the US Capitol Is Promoted to Captain

Officer [ahem] Captain Mike Byrd will utilize the vast area of the USA to ensure he does not, when off duty & in mufti, frequent precincts where Ashli Babbitt’s widower, male relatives, male in-laws, get drunk. Or even those who may be “Babbit sympathetic”

Call me Nostradamus.

Indolent
Indolent
August 27, 2023 3:17 pm

The whole area is being fenced off. So much for people getting in there to rebuild. Something truly sinister is happening here.

GeoffCygnus
@CygnusGeoff

The special police show up to ensure a total media blackout here in Lahaina West Maui

KevinM
KevinM
August 27, 2023 3:21 pm

dover0beach
Aug 27, 2023 10:33 AM

Indolent your last 2 post links are malicous websites โ€“ 80 in 1st, 91 in the second โ€“ stopped by AVG

Iโ€™d be interested in knowing what AVG actually stopped.

I use MalwareBytes and it’s quite enlightening of their political leaning when they flag a site as “malicious”.
Generally it’s an effective program, but sometimes I have to turn it off when I want to access a site they disapprove of.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 27, 2023 3:22 pm

US Marine Osprey spudded in off Darwin.

Flight Radar 24 has a Herc doing rings over Melville Island & a rescue chopper heading back to Darwin…

Here’s hoping some survived…

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 3:24 pm

I predict it [Melbournibad] is on the path to becoming another LA โ€ฆ a group of suburbs in search of a city.

Big parts of it didnโ€™t have far to slide – Swanston St, the bottom end of Elizabeth St, Flinders St โ€ฆ I could go on.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 3:26 pm

Melbin

Do better, at least get one banger movie out like To Live and Die in L.A./Melbin.

Makka
Makka
August 27, 2023 3:27 pm

Something truly sinister is happening here.

You don’t have to go past self interest. The corrupt FBI was quickly on the scene to coordinate locking everything down. What’s happening is the manipulation of stories, evidence and the (crime) scene in order to prepare the way for the “narrative”- which the MSM will ensure exonerates all the totally inept leftard bureaucrat fat cats that oversaw this catastrophe. Save one or two sacrificial lambs of course.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 27, 2023 3:29 pm

Dot deflected:

SIMPing is the cause of suffering.

No infatuation with the player was presented. Distraction squirrel did not work.

You tried to defend his actions by making an analogy with your students which was not analogous. Just because you intend a platonic relationship does not guarantee your gestures will be interpreted that way, it remains a risk – which he did not control for.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 3:31 pm

Swanston St, the bottom end of Elizabeth St, Flinders St โ€ฆ

Absolute shithole area. St Kilda road is now two lanes. Used to be four.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 3:31 pm

miltonf at 1:20

Agree Sancho- Iโ€™ve thought the same thing re becoming another LA which makes the dick-tatorโ€™s cross city rail irrelevant unless you want to go from Sunbury to Dandenong without changing trains

When your meth dealer moves and the Commodore is up on blocks on the front lawn.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 3:33 pm

Sanchez

Can you elaborate on what the dude said about the rail loop and the reasons why it wonโ€™t be finished?

Indolent
Indolent
August 27, 2023 3:36 pm
Crossie
Crossie
August 27, 2023 3:38 pm

Almost none of these comments had anything good to say about the Australian bishops collectively. Some said a few good things about specific named bishops and dioceses.

The above is from Philippa Martyr’s article linked by Rosie this morning.

The bishops still haven’t figured out that they will have to choose a side, their present stance is not sustainable. I would humbly suggest that they not choose the liberal Catholics as they will do to the Catholic Church what was done to the Church of England, Episcopalians and Lutherans. The liberals will hollow out the church and drive everyone away. The only growing churches are traditionalist so it actually makes sense to go that way.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 3:39 pm

You tried to defend his actions by making an analogy with your students which was not analogous.

It is somewhat analogous, formally speaking, it may just be a comparison.

Just because you intend a platonic relationship does not guarantee your gestures will be interpreted that way, it remains a risk โ€“ which he did not control for.

I was trying to explain why he might have fallen in love (or perceived it to be so) (maybe?) with the player/s other than having a meat missile with a nuclear warhead that has gone critical.

Rather than being proud of his players, he idolised them. (Maybe?)

Or just being a prick in general is his deal.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 3:41 pm

But it has screwed over the CBD and Big Union Super who are heavily into office space

Chairman Dan wonโ€™t be on Industry Fund Services Christmas card list.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 3:43 pm

Helen Mirren as Golda Meir, in the coming movie, Golda.

The likeness of the old gal is astounding.

โ€˜Goldaโ€™ Review: Helen Mirren as a Woman at War
The Oscar winner plays Golda Meir, Israelโ€™s first female prime minister, during the days in 1973 when she led her country through the life-and-death struggle of the Yom Kippur War

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 3:44 pm

Union super do like their unlisted asset classes. Always pays to keep an eye on valuations and related parties notes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2023 3:50 pm

JC

Aug 27, 2023 3:33 PM

Sanchez

Can you elaborate on what the dude said about the rail loop and the reasons why it wonโ€™t be finished?

Not the inner city one from Norda Melbourne to South Yarra.
The pipe dream outer suburban loop which is in the early stages of planning.
Mind you, he is throwing a lot of cash at early planning works.
Some might say he is buying off the “expert engineering” community.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 3:52 pm

Major city office buildings would be down 60% from pre-covid. I wonder if industry funds will take the heat?

I once looked that the innards of the Future Fund. From memory, 30% plus of the assets are unlisted, and appear to be either in private equity of things like commercial office buildings. Not surprisingly, the unlisted side has a better performance. Who’s valuing this junk?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2023 3:54 pm

H B Bear

Aug 27, 2023 3:44 PM

Union super do like their unlisted asset classes. Always pays to keep an eye on valuations and related parties notes.

They were talking write-downs of 10% this year end just gone.
I am betting the justification had lots of “snapback” in it.
If current occupancy rates continue, 10% is just the start.
You’re right about unlisted asset classes, Bear.
Lots of wriggle room if the valuers are maaates.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 3:55 pm

Hereโ€™s hoping some survivedโ€ฆ

The Oz is citing most, if not all, of the passengers and crew surviving.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 4:05 pm

Youโ€™re right about unlisted asset classes, Bear.
Lots of wriggle room if the valuers are maaates.

Not to mention timing issues on the buy/sell side. APRA does their best but still plenty of issues remain. To be generous.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 4:07 pm

I own some office space in an inner suburban area. The tenants are paying the rent and don’t have an issue. Luckily, I locked the dudes in 2018โ€“19, and it’s all good there. Here’s the bad news. I also own some space in the Docklands facing the water, and the three leases came up during COVID, which meant I had to discount the lease rate by 30%. They all stayed, but I was absolutely keelhauled with those leases. The broker reckons the city is rooted office-wise, while the suburban space is fine. I reckon retail is also rooted in the CBD because of the work-from-home caper.

Midtown Manhattan is a ghost town towards the end of the week. Thursday/Friday.

There’s going to be a big reckoning on the valuations coming up over the next few years.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 4:10 pm

Industry funds and IFS were well into windmills before Turtlehead Bowen even got his hands on the levers.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 4:11 pm

Bear, what do you know, if anything about this Tim Gurner? Have you heard of him? His nameplate is everywhere on major housing developments in Melbourne. He looks pretty young and appears to have shot up from nowhere.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 4:12 pm

I wouldnโ€™t be too quick to blame the โ€œNoโ€ crowd for the vandalism. Melbourne has form when it comes to providing crimes and villains. Remember the clean cut Nazis that invaded the โ€œLet Women Speakโ€ rally?

Pogria no my concern was the reporting. So putting a few no banners across a balcony of the local watering hole is vandalism. Very ordinary media work.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 4:14 pm

Daily Mail.

Iggy Azalea claims her message of female empowerment upset Saudi Arabian authorities after her raunchy concert in Riyadh was cut short by police when her pants SPLIT on stage

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 4:18 pm

Bear, what do you know, if anything about this Tim Gurner? Have you heard of him?

Nah.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 4:19 pm

The Orange Oaf’s mugshot on Twitter has 245.3 million views. That would have to be a record.

Zatara
Zatara
August 27, 2023 4:22 pm

THAT mugshot makes Trump an American martyr. Why is it that deranged liberals who loathe the ex-president help him at every turn?

His mugshot is the stuff of Warhol: Instantly iconic Americana that will be reproduced and repurposed for decades to come.

In the immediate, his enemies have handed him the greatest gift imaginable.

This image has turned a multi-billionaire former president into a folk hero, a renegade, an outlaw.

And America loves nothing more than an outlaw, as Trump well knows.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 4:23 pm

Went into the Perf CBD for coffee with a friend last week. The quality of the retail tenants was woeful. Commercial real estate guys would be doing it tough at the moment.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 4:25 pm

This image has turned a multi-billionaire former president into a folk hero, a renegade, an outlaw.

Iโ€™m getting a Trump costume for Muellerween.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 27, 2023 4:26 pm

I heard that a lot of the people who turned themselves in with Trump were smiling in their mugshots.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 4:28 pm
MatrixTransform
August 27, 2023 4:29 pm

Am I reading this right?

sancho knows a bloke
who knows what happens
in the tunnels

Lemme guess … is it Lego Irony Man?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 4:34 pm

Went into the Perf CBD for coffee with a friend last week.

I think it’s been five years since I last set foot in the CBD of Perf – got tasseled for a donation by an “ex digger” who didn’t know his service number…

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 27, 2023 4:42 pm

Always thought Perf CBD retail struggled more against suburban retail than Melbournibad and Sydney equivalents (completely unscientific). Now even the 2nd tier suburban places seem to be doing it tough.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2023 4:43 pm

MatrixTransform

Aug 27, 2023 4:29 PM

Am I reading this right?

prolly not

Pogria
Pogria
August 27, 2023 4:48 pm

Black Ball,
my fault. I gave into my masculine side and jumped the gun to soon. ๐Ÿ˜€
I went back and re read your comment after I had posted mine.

Very ordinary Media work is considered aspirational these days.

Tom
Tom
August 27, 2023 5:04 pm

Black Ball at 4.12pm:

… my concern was the reporting. So putting a few no banners across a balcony of the local watering hole is vandalism. Very ordinary media work.

A handy shortcut in order to understand mainstream Australian journalism is to realise that, for the past 50 years, journalists have been trained in universities, not in on-the-job cadetships, and are therefore professionally trained to be university radicals who despise voters and their democratic institutions.

Australian journalists haven’t seen themselves as the public’s eyes and ears for two generations. Instead, they see themselves as conveyors of the greater good. That is, if the public knows what’s good for them, they will vote for Labor and the Greens like 99% of journalists do.

In modern journalism, information is a weapon to be utilised by people who regard themselves as our betters.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 5:06 pm

err, Cats, it has been conveyed to me that last evening while (allegedly) in an “intoxicated state” I may have posted comments on this blogue that may have been inadvertently perceived as being of an abusive nature.

Not having it.

When you have three years of your life stolen from you for no remotely acceptable reason, by bizarre hitlerist weirdos, you may just happen to remain of a randomly truculent nature.

So yeah, sorry I’m not sorry. ๐Ÿ™‚

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 5:09 pm

Very ordinary Media work is considered aspirational these days.

Yes that’s right Pogria.
For something on the side, I did football reports in the Swan Hill paper. Submitted on the Sunday, ready for Monday publication. Sports editor had an issue with what I wrote, was something to do with a brain fade from a defender which caused a goal against them. She asked what it was, and how my words describing the action could be construed as almost inflammatory which would lead to many angry letters to the editor.
Upon reading, we amended the submission to something which, whilst scathing of the defender, was able to get it printed.
Which I would have thought was incumbent of a newspaper.
Again, vandals. Nothing of the sort lol

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2023 5:12 pm

When you have three years of your life stolen from you for no remotely acceptable reason, byย bizarre hitlerist weirdos, you may just happen to remain of a randomly truculent nature.

So yeah, sorry Iโ€™m not sorry.ย 

Well, direct your anger at the people who caused it.
Not some convenient target who had zero to do with your personal circumstances.
TBH, you sounded very Struthy.

Robert Sewell
August 27, 2023 5:13 pm

https://billwhittle.com/the-true-story-of-the-atomic-bombs-2/
No explanation necessary.
The Atomic Bombs saved millions of lives and Leftists can preen themselves in the certainty of their moral superiority by judging men and women for doing and experiencing something they won’t.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 5:13 pm

Tom
Aug 27, 2023 5:04 PM

Plus one million upticks. (With pinky finger at corner of mouth, a la Dr Evil)

Rabz
August 27, 2023 5:16 pm

you sounded very St Ruthy

Yeah well, these things happen.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 27, 2023 5:17 pm

Gibbs!

#6 Rabz on song.

NCIS // Gibbs Rules

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 5:22 pm

Rabz

When you have three years of your life stolen from you for no remotely acceptable reason, by bizarre hitlerist weirdos, you may just happen to remain of a randomly truculent nature.

Maybe best to direct the random truculence at those who affected you personally. Start with Gladbag, “Health” Hazzard, that stupid so-called CHO Cherry Kant, and their direct minions and advisors, not a bystander with no power living in another state.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 5:25 pm

The Atomic Bombs saved millions of lives and Leftists can preen themselves in the certainty of their moral superiority by judging men and women for doing and experiencing something they wonโ€™t.

Well said!

Rabz
August 27, 2023 5:25 pm

a bystander with no power living in another state

She enthusiastically supported the insanity.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 27, 2023 5:28 pm

Been at the Lavarack Barracks open day. They started to open up to civis once a year recently. Nice.

3 Brigades arsenal on display. Watched Abrams tank squashing old cars. Had a chat to the boys in uniform. Heaps of kids around and all round good afternoon.

One thing, the aviation boys are looking forward to Blackhawks coming back and Apaches…

Interesting to see a LARC and the old some of the Macks still around, I remember them as a kid.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 5:28 pm

The Atomic Bombs saved millions of lives

Yes, they did. Thousands of female civilian lives as well.

Those that hadn’t been raped and murdered.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 5:29 pm

Twenty-three US Marine Corps soldiers have been injured when a V-22 Osprey plane went down on Melville Island during military exercises.

Five patients have been transported to Royal Darwin Hospital, with one critically-injured patient currently being operated on. There are more patients arriving at the hospital imminently.

Latest from the Oz. Ummm, “Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children” don’t like being called “soldiers.”

calli
calli
August 27, 2023 5:29 pm

No she didnโ€™t. She navigated it in the best way she could to support her family who were in all sorts of need. How do I know? I offered her a bed should she be turned back at the Qld border.

Oh, and she had the gall to leave the country at the first opportunity.

Like some others.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 27, 2023 5:33 pm

POW Lester Tenney wrote of the actual end at length:

In the late spring of 1945, I saw that the cruelty with which we prisoners of war were treated was only increasing. Our guards told us that Japanese units facing attack had received orders to kill all military and civilian POWs in their custody. They were to unburden themselves to focus on the fight. The executions were to begin Aug. 17. No Japanese soldier or civilian was preparing to surrender that August.

Early on the morning of Aug. 9, from the POW camp where I was held some 30 miles across a bay, I saw the sky over Nagasaki change. It glowed red and the air turned warm against my skin. Until then, red was the color of my subjugation. My Japanese guards were certain that red had a uniquely Japanese meaning. It wasnโ€™t just the central color of their flag, it was viewed as emotionally representative of their pure spirit and sincerity. The red sky over Nagasaki ended those illusions.

At that moment, I made a bet with a friend that soon we would all be set free. I was right. Japanโ€™s surrender saved us. The dropping of the bombs, as Emperor Hirohito himself acknowledged, was the only thing that made that surrender possible. As he explained to his subjects, โ€œShould we continue to fight, it would only result in the ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation.โ€ The bombs inflicted indiscriminate, total devastation, as no battle or bombing before, showing the consequences of trying to fight to the end. The bombings destroyed hope and glory, past and future.

Itโ€™s also true that the bombings were acts of tragic and unprecedented violence. The bombโ€”this โ€œcruel weapon,โ€ as the stunned emperor recorded in his surrender message on Aug. 15โ€”ruined two cities, brought suffering and death to many tens of thousands of people and drastically altered landscapes and ecologies. Its use also transformed the nature of modern warfare and erased the last faint lines separating civilian and military, illegitimate and legitimate targets.

We POWs ยฌโ€“ men who were starved and tortured, who suffocated in the holds of hell ships, who were beaten at will, who died for lack of medical care, and who saw friends worked to death โ€“ have no doubt that the atomic bombs ended the war. The bombs took away all the justifications for Japan to continue to fight.

Atomic Salvation

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2023 5:35 pm

Hairy emailed this to me in his own words, thought Catallaxy people might be interested:

“This article from American Thinker explains very clearly and simply why climate change modelling is all bollocks..”

Helen
Helen
August 27, 2023 5:36 pm

Thanks Beery, noted

Rabz
August 27, 2023 5:38 pm

calli – opportunities I was denied (which she enthusiastically boasted about at the time) because I wouldn’t allow big stupid fascist government to inject a toxic chemical cocktail into my body.

FFS, I couldn’t even get a haircut, having been rendered a second class citizen.

Yeah, no. I have not forgotten.

MatrixTransform
August 27, 2023 5:38 pm

Rabz,

we spent 6 hours in ER yesterday and the mask mandate is still very much a ‘thing’ there.

the chairs in waiting are still stickered every alternate seat with a warning … “out of use, remain 1.5m apart”

the funny thing is that the seating pitch is about 1.2 meters so every alternate chair is NOT even 1.5 metres apart

worse … the seating is is built on a cam-lock arrangement so that each seat move-able or detachable so they could have, you know, rearranged the seats to be actually 1.5 metres apart.

sancho’s stupid gibber-point about finding somebody to rag on who is directly responsible sounds hollow.

how could you even locate somebody? …nobone could be stupid enough to admit they were responsible.

and sancho, here’s a little Lego clipboard so you can be the best Lego Fact-Checker you can possibly be

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 5:39 pm

The massive Japanese buildup on Kyushu meant that any landings there may well have been defeated, and the Japanese junta in Tokyo was ready to fight to the last, irrespective of losses.

Zulu, 760,000 to initially invade the mainland…45,000-50,000 expected casualties.

Thank fvck they surrendered.

Zatara
Zatara
August 27, 2023 5:41 pm

The Atomic Bombs saved millions of lives and Leftists can preen themselves in the certainty of their moral superiority by judging men and women for doing and experiencing something they wonโ€™t.

It’s a safe bet that not a single one of those leftists were scheduled to carry a rifle in the assault on Japan.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2023 5:44 pm

Calli at 5.29 is correct in standing up for Rosie. She has never supported the lockdowns and the lunacy of vax mandates and has always been in favour of people making up their own minds. That she kept a scientifically evidential approach to vax injuries, while recognising they occurred, seems to have offended some here, but that sort of approach is what is needed to seek proper redress for those affected and to ensure they are not used again.

We also needed to see family in Queensland during this border madness period, so got the right papers, showed them at the border, and we travelled overseas as soon as we could too as time at our age was particularly stolen (we have so few years left). The ‘Struth’ line that anyone not refusing the vax and refusing to travel was a ‘fellow traveller’ with the nightmare oppressions and fingering only certain people on this blog for that is a line that is far to Stassi for me.

MatrixTransform
August 27, 2023 5:44 pm

Andrews: we deffo need a squillion air purifiers to fight this viral menace
Supplier: air purifiers R us
Andrews: but do you vote Labor?
Supplier: we do now

Rabz
August 27, 2023 5:48 pm

Lizzie Beare 5:44pm

gee, thanks for blundering on in, Lizzie.

Nothing like the purveying of a cavalcade of non-factlets.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 5:49 pm

Zulu, 760,000 to initially invade the mainlandโ€ฆ45,000-50,000 expected casualties.

The invasion of Kyushu – anywhere between six and nine bombs were to be dropped behind the invasion beaches to prevent the Japanese reinforcing the defenders.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 5:50 pm

Rabz
Aug 27, 2023 5:25 PM
a bystander with no power living in another state

She enthusiastically supported the insanity.

Her “support” included breaching the blockade at two different borders to see her grandchildren at least once, possibly twice. Had everyone shown that level of “support”, the whole insanity might have ended sooner.

calli
calli
August 27, 2023 5:51 pm

What โ€œopportunitiesโ€? I was denied them also. The opportunity to meet, to worship, to visit family.

I buried my brother in law in a brief lockdown window. Do you think Iโ€™ve forgotten? My friend denied sitting at her dying husbandโ€™s bedside, for fear sheโ€™d give him Covid.

Do not allow the rabid reframing of others to interfere with what actually happened. The fact that rosie was an alternative voice on many of the vaxx issues discussed doesnโ€™t change anything. She questioned many of the stats and some of the wilder claims, as did others.

I might add some who are still commenting here were very early adopters of the vaccine. Does this lessen their ability to comment truthfully and persuasively? I have been told basically that because I โ€œaccepted the vaxxโ€ my input is null and void. Itโ€™s all so selective and emotional, picking one but not another.

There it is. We bear the taint of the vaxx. Be careful who you associate with. They might just be tainted too.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2023 5:53 pm

Yeah, no. I have not forgotten.

No need to forget, Rabz, keep up the pressure but on the right people, not good people here. Rosie wasn’t boasting as I recall. When you have kids in need you do what you have to do to help. Talking about that can become so misinterpreted, as I’ve found here too and not just about Covid. Maybe we come over in the wrong way, but it’s just a blog, and some kindness to each other wouldn’t go astray.

Helen
Helen
August 27, 2023 5:54 pm

Thanks Top Ender

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 5:54 pm

Rabz
Aug 27, 2023 5:38 PM
calli โ€“ opportunities I was denied

Being injected did not affect the border crossings, which were banned even for the vaxed (but only for us proles, not the self-selected “elite”).

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 27, 2023 5:57 pm

Top Ender Aug 27, 2023 5:33 PM

Thanks TE

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 5:59 pm

Being injected did not affect the border crossings, which were banned even for the vaxed (but only for us proles, not the self-selected โ€œeliteโ€).

And that is why the last 3 years remains the lowest point to which this country plumbed. But Albo is working on stretching that time span.

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 6:00 pm

Ta Zulu and Top Ender for the book references.
I am going to see if I can get hold of them sometime this week.

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 6:00 pm

No worries, Helen.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 6:00 pm

3 killed in that American training exercise. Maybe more according to Channel Stokes.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 6:03 pm

FMD a solemn Albo addressing the tragedy. With a Rio Tinto shirt on, ‘Anthony’ embroidered on. That’s on Nein.

Helen
Helen
August 27, 2023 6:04 pm

I was doing dome history stuff yesterday – family
We recently discovered the name if my gradfathers father – he was born out if wedlock but my great grandmother did not give him up – and in the searching, found my great grandmothers younger brothers went to war too, one in the sane division as my grandfather – this stockman uncle of my grandfathers – William Henry died of abdominal shrapnel wounds at Gallipoli just ten days after making lance Corporal and nine months after joining up
His brother died a month later, in France and I wondered if they ever saw each other, not knowing the relationship or if one side did snd the other not

We will never know, I guess, failing preserved letters or the like. So very heartbreaking.

Robert Sewell
August 27, 2023 6:05 pm

Wokdocter:

Interesting to see a LARC and the old some of the Macks still around, I remember them as a kid.

Long acting reversible contraception (LARC) are a group of contraception methods that: provide very effective contraception are long acting don’t require you to do anything to prevent pregnancy every day or every time you have sex are immediately reversible when removed LARC include intrauterine devices (IUDs) and contraceptive implants.

Medical Corps had an exhibition did they?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 6:05 pm

BB

Going by his actions, his abbreviated nickname should not be Albo, it should be An[thony] Al[banese]. AnAl suits him much better.

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 6:05 pm

FMD a solemn Albo addressing the tragedy. With a Rio Tinto shirt on, โ€˜Anthonyโ€™ embroidered on. Thatโ€™s on Nein.

Fvckin’ idiot has no idea or respect.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 27, 2023 6:08 pm

LOL google LARC V.

I had to check wtf you were talking about… Didn’t realise the other was at the top of the search.

Yeah but the Medical boys were represented as well.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 6:08 pm

Helen

If you need assistance in digging out the relevant files and other papers, ask Dover for my email. I spent several years as a volunteer at the AWM, helping visitors with that task.

Or we could just exchange notes here, if you are happy with that.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2023 6:08 pm

My brother died too during a period of lockdown and there were limits on funeral numbers, which made it extra difficult, and so did my good friend from my dance class, whom cancer took far too young. We all had to meet illegally in a local park to raise a glass to her memory, pretending we were three different groups for any inquisitive Karens, and decide who amongst us should attend her funeral, which I was picked to attend. It was miserable. My neighbour’s husband was another one who died and had no funeral, only close family and online attendance for others, one of her daughters only just managing to get in from Germany. My aunt in Louisiana also died and had restricted numbers at her funeral. This suffering was world-wide.

And everywhere, ordinary people were quietly giving resistance, in small ways as well as large, inviting in friends without vaxxes (a friend of mine cut people’s hair at her home) writing to MP’s, undertaking risky meetings in parks and private homes, evading Facebook restrictions, and attending demonstrations where they were bashed and fired upon with rubber bullets. A small taste of life under a Soviet system.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:10 pm

On a day there shouldnโ€™t be hurt feelings. Imeldaโ€™s wonderful song about โ€ฆ feelings

https://youtu.be/DC9vxyov1SI?si=SSzo7MKQ7bIyPTbf

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 6:11 pm

Ta Zulu and Top Ender for the book references.
I am going to see if I can get hold of them sometime this week.

I’d also recommend this title as required reading, on the background to the dropping of those bombs.

Hell to Pay: Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947
by D. M. Giangreco (Author),

Hell to Pay is a comprehensive and compelling examination of the many complex issues that encompassed the strategic plans for the proposed American invasion of Japan. U.S. planning for the invasion and military occupation of Imperial Japan was begun in 1943, two years before the dropping of atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. In its final form, Operation Downfall called for a massive Allied invasion-on a scale dwarfing D-Day-to be carried out in two stages. In the first stage, Operation Olympic, the U.S. Sixth Army would lead the southernmost assault on the Home Island of Kyushu preceded by the dropping of as many as nine atom bombs behind the landing beaches and troop concentrations inland. Sixth Army would secure airfields and anchorages needed to launch the second stage, Operation Coronet, five hundred miles to the north in 1946. The decisive Coronet invasion of the industrial heartland of Japan through the Tokyo Plain would be led by the Eighth Army, as well as the First Army, which had previously pummeled its way across France and Germany to defeat the Nazis. These facts are well known and have been recounted-with varying degrees of accuracy-in a variety of books and articles. A common theme in these works is their reliance on a relatively few declassified high-level planning documents. In contrast, Hell to Pay examines the invasion of Japan in light of the large body of Japanese and American operational and tactical planning documents unearthed by the author in both familiar and obscure archives, as well as postwar interrogations and reports that senior Japanese commanders and their staffs were ordered to produce for General MacArthur’s headquarters. Hell to Pay brings the political and military ramifications of the enormous casualties and loss of material projected by both sides in the climatic struggle to bring the Pacific War to a conclusion through a brutal series of battles on Japanese soil. This groundbreaking history counters the revisionist interpretations questioning the rationale for the use of the atom bomb and shows that President Truman’s decision was based on very real estimates of the truly horrific cost of a conventional invasion of Japan.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:12 pm

some who are still commenting here were very early adopters of the vaccine. Does this lessen their ability to comment truthfully and persuasively?

Yes it does. You are not comprehending my argument, which is that those who swallowed the big brother loudness are in no position to be lecturing or talking down to those that did not.

Where did it get you by the way?

You were used as useful idiots. Grate Work.

I’ll remember that the next time it happens.

calli
calli
August 27, 2023 6:16 pm

Iโ€™m comprehending your argument all too well Rabz.

Two days ago I was called a coward on this very blog. And told I had no place in heaven.

Itโ€™s all of a piece.

Robert Sewell
August 27, 2023 6:17 pm

Rabz:

Yeah, no. I have not forgotten.

I also have not forhotten being barred from my usual drinking hole because I demanded my rights to not take a medication.
I also have not forgotten being forced to isolate in an empty room at the doctors because I refused to wear a mask – for which I had a medical exemption.
I also have not forgotten being asked to wait outside the MOs Clinic for the same reason.
I have also not forgotten being harassed each time I went to IGA to wear a mask.
Etc etc etc.
I won’t forget, and neither should anyone else because they are working up to do it again.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:17 pm

Does your comment apply to those required to vax up for work too?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 27, 2023 6:18 pm

Trying a word change:

Going by his actions, his abbreviated nickname should not be Albo, it should be An[thony] Al[banese]. AnAl suits him much better.

Or a special group โ€“ AA.

โ€œHi. Iโ€™m Anthony Albanese, and Iโ€™m a screw-things-up-aholic.โ€

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:18 pm

Mainsplaining, Cats.

There are those of us who resisted fascist tyranny and those who chose the easy option and did not.

If pointing that out that makes me a bad personage, then so be it.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:20 pm

Does your comment apply to those required to vax up for work too?

Yes, JC, it does.

If my work had mandated my taking the shot, I would have resigned.

calli
calli
August 27, 2023 6:21 pm

There are those of us who resisted fascist tyranny and those who chose the easy option and did not.

Take a flying leap.

You have zero idea of what others have endured.

Hold onto your Precious of resentment. It will reward you in kind.

rosie
rosie
August 27, 2023 6:22 pm

You know St Rabz your history revision is quite fascinating.
Any excuse to slag off right?
But let me repeat for the willfully ignorant.
The only time there was a different in treatment between the vaxxed and unvaxxed was in the last couple of months of 2021.
In 2020 no-one was vaxxed because there wasn’t a vax.
I crossed the border twice, in May 2020 and December 2020 to visit my unwell, distressed, very isolated younger daughter and her new baby. If i could have gone more often, i would.
I breached Melbourne lockdowns every day, including twice weekly 50 km round trips during the 5k curfews to visit my older daughter who also had a new baby, had to have emergency surgery and was suffering severe post natal depression.
My sister was diagnosed with an aggressive form of breast cancer in march 2020 which later went stage 4 with a large brain tumour, I visited her and my mother surreptitiously on a regular basis.
I was actually very grateful that in November 2021 my vaxx cert (only aquired in June 2021) allowed me to visit her in the rehabiliation hospital on a daily basis after the docs decided she was special circumstances.
I also had another very private and distressing family situation to deal with throughout all of 2020 that was greatly exacerbated by lockdown restrictions.
In all that time i perhaps suggested in march 2020 stopping large group gatherings was probably a good idea.
I never supported lockdowns or mandates.
And yes as soon as the borders open and because the situation at home was stable I did a runner from the andrews dictatorship at the end of December 2021.
Now tell me all about how I ruined your life.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 6:22 pm

Goodbye, struth.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:23 pm

You have zero idea of what others have endured

Really?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2023 6:24 pm

those who swallowed the big brother loudness are in no position to be lecturing or talking down to those that did not.

I am sorry you are feeling so bad about all of this now, Rabz. Not much anyone can say or do it seems. I thought all of this had been well-aired here with Struth, but apparently things are still festering.

I’ll blunder off for a while and do something else.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 6:24 pm

Rabz

There are those of us who resisted fascist tyranny and those who chose the easy option and did not.

There were different forms of resistance. In Rosie’s case, she resisted by defying border closures, legally very risky moves, particularly in Danistan.

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 6:27 pm

Hell to Pay: Operation Downfall and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947
by D. M. Giangreco (Author),

Added to the growing list.

Ta Matey.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
August 27, 2023 6:28 pm

Rabz: Stay on target. It is their ABC which requires razing, not Rosie. ๐Ÿ™‚

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:28 pm

Cats – I’m sorry and I do mean that.

Sorry for raising a certain topic that still grates on the tender parts of various peoples’ bones.

I’m just one man, trying to kick back against an ever increasing tide of fascism.

If that results in me helplessly and pointlessly lashing out, then so be it.

calli
calli
August 27, 2023 6:30 pm

Well that was worth it. If haircuts were an issue, I went out in sympathy with the unvaxxed.

I had a vision of a very grey haired old lady in the mirrorโ€ฆnot conducive to good cheer. Iโ€™m not usually given to vanity, but that was tough. Which reminds meโ€ฆtime to hobble down for another one. I look like a vagrant.

MatrixTransform
August 27, 2023 6:32 pm

rosie, as far as I can recall, you were very happy to go with the flow as long as you could get around the impositions

that you heaped scorn on any contrary opinion … at every chance you could … never helped your case

from your own words and actions people took their impressions

and they aren’t good

re-writing history now might make you feel better

but people remember

perhaps you could have used different words

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 6:32 pm

Realigning the Knickebein transmitters.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:32 pm

had a vision of a very grey haired old lady in the mirrorโ€ฆnot conducive to good cheer

Well try looking like a seventy year old derro … ๐Ÿ™

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 6:35 pm

Added to the growing list.

Ta Matey.

My pleasure, Beery. Giangreco argues the case that any Soviet invasion of Northern Japan would have been a repeat of Gallipoli – launched from ships lifeboats, and confiscated fishing boats, and would most likely have been repulsed by the Japanese defenders.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 27, 2023 6:35 pm

There are those of us who resisted fascist tyranny and those who chose the easy option and did not.

I distinguish between those who didn’t resist because they liked tyranny, those who gave in to family coercion because they valued good relationships more than principles, and those who were simply too dim to see the fundamental issue.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:35 pm

Two days ago I was called a coward on this very blog. And told I had no place in heaven.

Presumably not by me, for goodness’ sake? I don’t believe in Heaven, but I do believe in Hell.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:36 pm

Rabz
Aug 27, 2023 6:20 PM

Does your comment apply to those required to vax up for work too?

Yes, JC, it does.

If my work had mandated my taking the shot, I would have resigned.

You say you’re still working so your work did mandate the vax like everyone else did. There was no commercial enterprise in Australia that didn’t require it.

In any event, there’s no reason to be going off at Rosie who always presents as exceedingly polite.

Lay into me then as I had four shots: did so for business related reasons and to go overseas to see my kid. Also, I didn’t mind taking the first one.

I don’t believe Rosie was in favor of the mandate either.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:36 pm

those who gave in to family coercion

ahem …

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 27, 2023 6:36 pm

Rabz
Aug 27, 2023 6:32 PM
had a vision of a very grey haired old lady in the mirrorโ€ฆnot conducive to good cheer

Well try looking like a seventy year old derro โ€ฆ ?

Been there, done that, at a higher age than 70.

Beertruk
August 27, 2023 6:37 pm

I had a vision of a very grey haired old lady in the mirrorโ€ฆnot conducive to good cheer. Iโ€™m not usually given to vanity, but that was tough. Which reminds meโ€ฆtime to hobble down for another one. I look like a vagrant.

Calli…???

Sorry Matey…I was having TOO much fun… ๐Ÿ˜‰
I’ll be quiet now…

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:38 pm

How about the third category. Those that believed the shot would work, had it willingly, but also didn’t support the mandates.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 27, 2023 6:38 pm

Anyone that offers up their arm for future jabs, is certifiably f*cked in the head!

A 5km walk begins….

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 27, 2023 6:39 pm

Like Rosie, I regularly broke lockdown regulations to take supplies and support across Sydney to family members, including two grandsons on the other side of the city, and also to my eldest son in Redfern public housing (receiving unkind satire here for doing so from ‘Vaucluse’ when I commented merely on the level of traffic on the road). My eldest son in particular was making very heavy weather of it all. His psychology test results are now in – he has at last agreed to be tested. He has clear mid-level autism and has struggled all of his life masking it. At least now we know to cut him some slack for a range of failures and behaviours that have puzzled us all and distressed him mightily and which have caused me grief from other family members who have dissed my support for him. Let him hit rock bottom, they said.

Hideous advice.

No-one deserves rock bottom, and Rabz, if you are feeling down then you know you can call me, as a friend, or someone else. If you are just being political, well that’s fine, continue on here, which is the place for that.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:39 pm

your work did not mandate the vax like everyone else did

Yes, because they did not want to lose their most valuable staff.

And we were all comfortably “working from home” at that point …

Razey
Razey
August 27, 2023 6:41 pm

Anyone that offers up their arm for future jabs, is certifiably f*cked in the head!

Sheep will be sheep. Just don’t force that shit onto me.

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 6:41 pm

I fit into none of those categories.

It was complete bullshit and I held off for as long as possible without getting sacked (March 2022). I made a promise to get vaxxxxxxxinated once Novavax was ready. I wish it was never approved.

I wish Putin invaded Little Russia earlier because no one would have cared about COVID when I got the shots.

calli
calli
August 27, 2023 6:41 pm

Lol! Beertruk!

Iโ€™m the least worst one. Natch.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:42 pm

Those that believed the shot would work, had it willingly

The shot would never have worked, so having it was never an option.

didnโ€™t support the mandates

JC – you support big stupid government mandates?

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:43 pm

Yes, because they did not want to lose their most valuable staff.

And we were all comfortably โ€œworking from homeโ€ at that point โ€ฆ

That’s a truly laughable excuse. Your work accommodated you. Many others did not. Not everyone had office work.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:44 pm

The shot would never have worked, so having it was never an option.

That’s what Harry Hindsight said.

JC โ€“ you support big stupid government mandates?

I said the opposite. Go back and read what I said.

2dogs
August 27, 2023 6:44 pm

I was sceptical of those who oversold the vaccine’s benefits, and I am now sceptical of those who oversell its harms.

Yes, there are excess deaths. But they could be result of the lockdowns – there were many foretelling of their harms at the time, and there may have been unknown further damage done.

calli
calli
August 27, 2023 6:45 pm

Soooooโ€ฆis this a Struggle Session or a Purge?

Let me know so I can get the terminology right for tickets.

There has to be a commercial opportunity here somewhere.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:45 pm

thereโ€™s no reason to be going off at Rosie

A womanage I will never willingly agree with any time soon.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 27, 2023 6:46 pm

How about the third category. Those that believed the shot would work, had it willingly, but also didnโ€™t support the mandates.

The gullible.

There was no proper testing of a completely new jab. I pointed out here that we had no data on long term effects. Now we do, and the information confirms my scepticism. Anyone who took the jab for medical reasons is a lot more trusting of the pharmaceutical companies than is reasonable.

Razey
Razey
August 27, 2023 6:46 pm

I distinguish between those who didnโ€™t resist because they liked tyranny, those who gave in to family coercion because they valued good relationships more than principles

Ah haa. The ‘good’ Nazi hey?

Dot
Dot
August 27, 2023 6:47 pm

The people I worked with were heavy drinkers and gamblers and got vaccinated so they could go to the pub.

That’s some sad shit.

Not “so I can catch up with friends” but so you could cuck out and pay a lot of excise and gaming tax…

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:47 pm

A Stroogle Session, calli

Step up and confess your crimes against anything and everything!

You know you want to! ๐Ÿ™‚

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 6:48 pm

The only time there was a different in treatment between the vaxxed and unvaxxed was in the last couple of months of 2021.

You are joking right?
I couldn’t work much through 2021 in Victoria. Yet New South Wales was good. Until as you point out Rosie, October 12th was the day when a second shot was needed to continue.
So I was a prick. I took the JobKeeper shit. A few cash jobs, all declared.
I don’t think a big bowling club on the Murray never mandated however and they gave me a position. Happy days.
I think people have forgotten this lamentable state of affairs. It’s like business as usual, but not.
Add the voice shit, there is much that the bureaucracy should be held accountable.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:50 pm

JC – your employer decrees you must take the shot.

FFS, it’s just a jerb.

Are we that unprincipled?

Evidently, yes, we are.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 27, 2023 6:51 pm

Iโ€™d also recommend Richard B Franks โ€œDownfall โ€“ the End of the Japanese Empire.โ€
The massive Japanese buildup on Kyushu meant that any landings there may well have been defeated, and the Japanese junta in Tokyo was ready to fight to the last, irrespective of losses.

After watching Richard Franks discussing this topic, and the mindset of the “Big 6” on Unauthorised History of the Pacific War I purchased Tower of Skulls. I thought I was reasonably familiar with the early days of the war (including China/Manchuria), but this is at another level . Plan to get Downfall after finisheing this one.

Link to the video in which he demolishes the “if only” myths : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrTS3lsjLWA

The panel discusses the fact that a lot of the current criticism in the west focuses on Japanese civilian casualties, totally forgetting the death toll of civilians throughout the Japanese conquests .On average a Hiroshima worth of non Japanese civilians were dying every 36 hours in China, Vietnam, Philippines, Malaya, Indonesia etc etc. At the time the bomb was dropped there were 1 million Vietnamese starving to death because of Japanese actions.

In addition to this the 1944 Japanese rice crop had failed, going from 10million tonnes to 6 million tonnes and with blockade & bombardment the only other option (the invasion of Kyushu was about to be abandoned because of troop parity, refer to Makin Island casualties for an idea of what the casualties would have been like on both sides going in 1:1).

Because of blockade no food was making to Japan, or between the Japanese home islands, and because the bombardment (ie bombing) was likely to cause the destruction of distribution infrastructure there would have been no way to distribute what rice there was to over half the population causing even greater starvation in the Japanese civilian population.

Razey
Razey
August 27, 2023 6:52 pm

Because most of you are cowards, you have sent the message, which has been noted by the overlords. 100% they will mandate clot shots and what ever else takes their fancy. And you’ll just take. That’s not someone God would favor. Oh no.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:52 pm

Doc

Trump is pretty cynical. He had at least 2 shots that I recall. I believe the shot worked against the alpha strain somewhat and then began to lose its zing against the other fast moving mutations.

Be that as it may, some people weren’t about to lose their businesses by avoiding the shot. I’m sorry, a job is a job and there are plenty more jobs around to secure, but a business is a whole different kettle of fish and those folks weren’t prepared to lose their life work or effort including piled up debt. That’s different.

John H.
John H.
August 27, 2023 6:54 pm

The Yin and Yang of Entanglement.

Was Bohr prescient in the design of his coat of arms?

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:57 pm

Rabz

Perhaps, a lot of us here are not in the mortgage boat. I have no debt and I presume you’re at an age and don’t any major debt either. A lot of people carry mortgages and that vig has to be paid each month. That also applies to renters too. Also, there are those that live from paycheck to paycheck that wouldn’t be able to carry on by taking this brave stand you’re advocating without getting thrown on the street. This isn’t reality.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 6:58 pm

I believe the shot worked against the alpha strain somewhat and then began to lose its zing against the other fast moving mutations

JC – this is not good. How did you, of all people, swallow this crap?

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 6:58 pm

Razey, shut up please.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 27, 2023 6:59 pm

those who gave in to family coercion because they valued good relationships more than principles

Ah haa. The โ€˜goodโ€™ Nazi hey?

The morally feeble. Rabz wasn’t one of them, and good on him for sticking to his beliefs.
It seems to have cost him family links. Not the sort of thing that would bother me, but I’m used to family abandoning me for disagreeing with them. Their choice; it suggests a wish to conform that I don’t suffer from.

Cassie of Sydney
August 27, 2023 7:01 pm

Further to inappropriate touching, last week I attended CPAC which was held at the Star Casino Convention Centre here in Sydney. It wasn’t a great venue. Anyway, at morning tea, even though I had a Gold Pass I walked out and joined a queue of people with day passes to get a coffee. The tea/coffee station was badly organised, people were milling around, it was hard to tell who was in the queue and who was not and whilst waiting I got chatting to some Victorian women who were attending the conference. We were sharing opinions, laughing and then the queue moved, and I inadvertently thought I was next to be served and I went to order some coffee. A rather aggressive man yelled at me, I turned to look at him and he poked his finger in my shoulder (which wasn’t pleasant), aggressively accusing me of “pushing in”. I was startled, not just at his words but also at his physicality with me and I cleared my throat and I said “firstly, I did not mean to push in and secondly, and more importantly…”do not touch me”. He then yelled “I didn’t touch you” to which a Victorian woman I had been speaking to and who’d witnessed the whole exchange, said to him “yes you did”. He then became more heated and started shouting “you wait your turn”, so I cleared my voice and said, “I am more than happy to wait my turn, I did not push in, you need to calm down”, to which he continued to interject and heckle me, and to which I responded to him by saying that “I won’t tolerate your intimidation, and your bullying and every time you yell at me I will respond, and you will never ever out talk me or have the last word with me. And then he stopped, and he turned around. It was quite bizarre, and not pleasant. But at the end of the day there’s one thing I am, which is my mother’s daughter, and she always told me and my sister that you never ever allow a man to bully you, mentally, physically or emotionally.

I’ve just returned from a wonderful afternoon at the footy with my nephew and his wife, watching the Swans v Demons at the SCG, in the member’s stand. Demons won. the Swans in the last quarter were shocking, absolutely shocking!

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 7:01 pm

JC โ€“ this is not good. How did you, of all people, swallow this crap?

It doesn’t matter what I believed. I’m was 110% against mandates. I want to see Andrews in physical pain while living a long life for what he did to folks. Also, I’m a smoker and so personal health risk is something I really don’t much worry about, obviously.

Indolent
Indolent
August 27, 2023 7:03 pm
Rabz
August 27, 2023 7:03 pm

I presume youโ€™re at an age and donโ€™t have any major debt either

JC – my mortgage isn’t going away any time soon (well, not for another five years at least).

I would have resigned because the only person affected by my decision would have been me.

Sacrรฉ bleu, peoples – where did expediency ever get anyone?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 27, 2023 7:04 pm

I am now sceptical of those who oversell its harms.

From the data I’ve seen the risk of serious side effects was about 10%, maybe a little lower, and the risk of death approached 1%, particularly due to clotting and myo. I suspect the latter number fell with time as susceptible people died, so that later rounds of the vaccines probably produced less mortality.

If those numbers were ever fessed to no one would ever accept the vaccine ever again. Which is why it’s so hard to dig up hard data. But that’s what it looks like to me.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 27, 2023 7:04 pm

Temporarily based at the swinging pig caravan park.
High coot quotient in the general area.
Also spotted my first in- voice placard in a couple of areas on the side of the road.

ITS OK TO SAY NO

Didnโ€™t see the political party claiming it.
At this rate Elbow will be lucky if he doesnt break the federation.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 7:06 pm

Rabz

Shoulda, woulda. It’s not the same thing. You were never put in the position where your job, or more importantly your business was on the line if you didn’t jab.

The same argument applies to the Doc who’s retired.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 7:07 pm

Iโ€™m 110% against mandates. I want to see Andrews spending the rest of his short ass life in extreme physical pain for what he did to folks. Also, Iโ€™m a smoker and so personal health risk is something I really donโ€™t much worry about

That’s more like it, Squire.

Makka
Makka
August 27, 2023 7:09 pm

And we were all comfortably โ€œworking from homeโ€ at that point

You fkg blowhard. No risk for you decline the vax and no fkg bravery either working from home. And you have the gaul to rag on people who had to take the vax to enter their workplace. This mOron level nastiness.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 7:09 pm

You haven’t seen the data, because there’s no freaking data that’s been reliable. Additionally, any data that showed risk would’ve and has been hidden from sight. So STFU about seeing the data. You wouldn’t know data if it fell out of your fat retired rear end.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 7:12 pm

Makka

Until they suddenly, arbitrarily decided to jobsack me, you sanctimonious f*ckwit?

I had taken that possibility into account, you f*cking moron.

FFS.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 27, 2023 7:14 pm

I am now sceptical of those who oversell its harms.

This is a defensible position; it’s hard to get solid data. There are reasons for that, reasons which do not reflect well upon big pharma.

feelthebern
feelthebern
August 27, 2023 7:15 pm

What percentage of the SS do you think were gay?
I reckon around a quarter.

Robert Sewell
August 27, 2023 7:15 pm

Rabz

Aug 27, 2023 6:28 PM
Cats โ€“ Iโ€™m sorry and I do mean that.
Sorry for raising a certain topic that still grates on the tender parts of various peoplesโ€™ bones.
Iโ€™m just one man, trying to kick back against an ever increasing tide of fascism.
If that results in me helplessly and pointlessly lashing out, then so be it.

It’s OK, Rabz. I’m still enraged by the illegal acts forced on me by government and the smug non violence directed my way.
I’ll just keep them in mind for when the time comes for the inevitable “I told you so.”
There was a video that started off with the “What did we get so wrong” statement with two women on a park bench wondering why they couldn’t get the unvaccinated to forget the pressure they were under. Then followed up by 9 minutes of clips about the unvaccinated ‘can go and die in the gutter’ https://youtube.com/watch?v=Zb-Ds7qdZy which has been taken down.
I wonder why.

bons
bons
August 27, 2023 7:15 pm

Sky’s coverage of the Marine helo crash was surprising.
The young NT correspondent was moderate, thoughtful and knowledgable.
Amusingly, the background slides were urging ‘Aircraft has a history of ….” While the young correspondent spoke sense and demomstrated a significant operational training knowledge.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 7:16 pm

feelthebern
Aug 27, 2023 7:15 PM

What percentage of the SS do you think were gay?
I reckon around a quarter.

LOL.

cohenite
August 27, 2023 7:17 pm

More evidence of societal decay: the slapper fails to define a woman in Oxford

How the fuk does this union whore get an invite to Oxford.

Makka
Makka
August 27, 2023 7:18 pm

Sanctimonious? You’re shitting over everyone who took the vax- no matter what their singular circumstances. They are cowards and conspirators supporting oppression ,according to you.

While you say you worked from home and your employer was ok with that and no vax requirement. How fkg bwave of you Rabz.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 7:18 pm

What percentage of the SA do you think were gay?

Those purges don’t engineer themselves.

JC
JC
August 27, 2023 7:19 pm

More evidence of societal decay: the slapper fails to define a woman in Oxford

I can see that. The boyfriend was a hairdresser and then traveling salesman flogging hair products to salons. She’s obviously confused.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 27, 2023 7:19 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrTS3lsjLWA

Most interesting link, Diogenes, thank you.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 27, 2023 7:22 pm

What percentage of the SS do you think were gay?
I reckon around a quarter

Ask Louise Milligan

P
P
August 27, 2023 7:22 pm

I was guided by one of my favourite Bible verses: Proverbs 3:5-6.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

I was fortunate that I was able to avoid having any COVID vaccinations.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2023 7:22 pm

Rabz going the full St Ruth. Yes I had the vax against my will because I would lose my job otherwise. Great for people without mortgage and other mouths to feed to criticize that.

As for abusing Rosie- I don’t agree with her re the vax either but she is a good contributor here. Her travelogues are great.

Rabz
August 27, 2023 7:24 pm

How f*king bwave of you

Try and comprehend my comments above, you irredeemable imbecile – if my employer had insisted on my being jabbed, I would have resigned.

This is not up for discussion, you house sized bottomaged hitlerist. I was subjected to enough ignominy for refusing to take the toxic jabs – including being decreed an untermensch.

So F*ck Off.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2023 7:24 pm

Some off us have hands on technical jobs that require physical attendance at the workplace. I don’t being lectured by ‘work’ from home shiny bums either.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 27, 2023 7:25 pm

Rabz

Aug 27, 2023 5:25 PM

a bystander with no power living in another state

She enthusiastically supported the insanity.

Utter f-ckin’ bullshit.
Go read your Constitution in the Kenworth.

miltonf
miltonf
August 27, 2023 7:27 pm

I would have resigned.

but you didn’t

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