All of this is why, as I wrote above, it’s time to stop being nice. Canadians were long known for being agreeable and nice, and all that being agreeable and nice has done is facilitate a far-left dystopian nightmare. I think one can apply that to the West as a whole, and particularly across the Anglosphere.
Hence why I’m not particularly nice to monty when he pokes his engorged collective head through the Cat door.
132andBush
August 30, 2023 10:31 am
Apologies for the imagery.
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 10:31 am
This miss allocation of capital and physical resources must be unequaled since the pyramids were built.
It makes offshore yacht racing look quite economical.
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 10:34 am
Is sTan having a touch of self-awareness?
That Constructive Club thing that he joined – I had a quick squiz at their website. They ‘feel’ that news is too doom and gloom. They have a new idea about making j’ism ‘constructive’, which seems rather scary.
See, it is not even a matter of being positive. Stories about how 10,000,000 people crossed the street today and didn’t get run over.
Constructive to me strongly hints at something they wish to construct. Some teleological totem. Reporting stories in such a way that they facilitate that end.
Pom-pom waving for the state and other sickly progressive organs that plan to become the state.
Progressives do not object to ideas that are wrong. They have even found a cumbersome sophistry where there is no ‘wrong’ or ‘right’, no definitive ‘truth’.
But they do object to ideas as being ‘unhelpful’ or ‘not constructive’ – not advancing that to which they want to advance.
Whether sTan understands all that, or whether he just senses he will be able there to peddle his bullshit about poisoned waterholes and smallpoxy blankets and acting like flora and fauna and whatever other erroneous grievance he has attached himself to in order to consolidate for himself a special place in Australia, is anybody’s guess. Frankly I reckon he is too damned stupid.
But, perhaps my opinion is not construcive.
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 10:37 am
Voice referendum ‘definitely winnable’: Turnbull
Ha!
The ghost of failures past has rattled his chains and spoken.
“Hence why I’m not particularly nice to monty when he pokes his engorged collective head through the Cat door.”
Agree. And any goodwill he had here was evaporated/annihilated/extinguished when back in March of this year he not only supported violence against women, he laughed at it.
Based in Toongabbie in Sydney’s west, the liberal arts college celebrated the occasion with leaders from the Catholic Church, education, politics and business along with college benefactors, current students, staff and alumni, with the keynote address given by former deputy prime minister John Anderson.
In his address Mr Anderson said the new Campion development was a significant moment not only for the college but for the nation, which is experiencing a “civilizational moment” marked by dangerous social and economic pressures, growing division and distrust, along with an abandonment of the Judeo-Christian foundations of the West.
“We are losing our confidence in the very institutions of freedom, and worse than that, the ideas, beliefs and values that underpin them,” Mr Anderson said.
College president Dr Paul Morrissey said it was also an occasion to honour “two great Australians”—the late Fr Stenhouse who was formerly a trustee of the college, and mining magnate and philanthropist Mrs Gina Rinehart after whom the new library is named.
Rosie
August 30, 2023 10:45 am
The future belongs to those who have large families.
Aboriginals?
Roger
August 30, 2023 10:46 am
But, perhaps my opinion is not construc[t]ive.
Go to the naughty corner and reflect on your recalcitrance, ML.
Aaron
August 30, 2023 10:46 am
Kiss of death Turnbull.
Snowy 2.0 should be enough to silence him.
Absolute arsehole of a human.
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 10:50 am
The ghost of failures past has rattled his chains and spoken.
Waffleworth does not exactly exude be on me next time and have you reaching for your wallet.
Having come across an advert for the Chinese version of Amazon and trying them out I have to admit they are good .. luv they have all the nick-nacs you hear about but never seem to see around .. amazing 1st time user discounts and guaranteed delivery date (a store credit if late) … https://www.temu.com/au
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 10:54 am
Snowy 2.0 should be enough to silence him.
You would think so. I have my doubts. Often a problem with smartest men in the room.
rosie
August 30, 2023 10:57 am
Obviously millions and millions of dollars and a non constitutionally enshrined aboriginal voice wasnt enough
News
Cape York
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Waynead Wolmby, 22, wants the Voice to get more Aboriginal children into education
An emerging leader and education worker from Aurukun has said what the Voice to Parliament needs to do for his community as he describes the pains of growing up Aboriginal in Australia.
“Looks like the Chinese & Indian communities No votes are big enough to knock it on the head.”
Unsurprising. Add in to that spicy mix the middle eastern communities.
Yep! .. very little apart from a few NO wall posters from Australia Freedom ..
Nothing whatsoever from the YES side .. the issue doesn’t even com up in conversation(s) out here in Fairfield ……..
rosie
August 30, 2023 11:01 am
Sorry that cairns post story is completely paywalled
calli
August 30, 2023 11:02 am
Turnbull and Bishop.
Winning.
The Clowns of Doom have spoken! 😀
h/t Blair
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 11:06 am
Julie was a loyal deputy. And a loyal deputy. And a loyal deputy. She was more loyal than your average Golden Retriever.
Farmer Gez
August 30, 2023 11:06 am
Snowy 2.0 story featuring Prof Bruce Mountain speaking truth to idiots.
Bruce is a key part of our team to scrap these stupid 500kv transmission line projects.
Generous, I regard him as worse than Rudd. Rudd doesn’t trash his party the way Turnbull trashes the Liberals.
I note that he was at Kings Cross/Potts Point this morning spruiking YES. That’s an easy area to spruik in, it’s SAFE. Poor old Mal and Luce, they haven’t changed, not that I thought they would. Just like during the 2016 election campaign when they couldn’t be bothered venturing out to the western and south-western suburbs to campaign in shopping malls, God forbid that either of them would be seen among the great unwashed! Their shtick back in 2016 was to be filmed and photographed boarding a train at Edgecliff and then getting off the train at Martin Place, two stops later. Maggot and his cane toad of a wife are such hypocrites, but remember, the Liberal Party of Australia made this maggot PM in September 2015, and it’s been downhill for the party ever since.
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 11:11 am
Waffleworth was certainly more born to rule than Fraser’s noblesse oblige. Both were insufferable wankers.
Go to the naughty corner and reflect on your recalcitrance, ML.
*scrunches eyes, balls little fists, and shouts like a toddler* “Not helpful!”
(But true. Thus I vindicate my argument! If not my orthography!)
Farmer Gez
August 30, 2023 11:17 am
Snowy 2.0 should be enough to silence him.
More chance of stopping a pig dog on the hunt. The smell of easy money is irresistible.
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 11:20 am
Snowy 2.0 should be enough to silence him.
Alas, it matters not how big the concrete shoes are that we fit the laughably affected poseur with. I fear Snowy 2.0 will never pump up enough water to submerge his silly constipation-faced bobble-head.
Barry
August 30, 2023 11:23 am
Every InVoice Postal Vote will at times be completely outside of any scrutineering. Computershare, the share registry services company, which is well known for being far left, will have custody of all postal votes from the time they leave the Auspost system, until the time the AEC starts to count.
No-one is checking what goes on in the Computershare warehouse.
If you think NO will win based on the polls, you are sadly optimistic.
It’s not who votes that counts, it’s not even who counts the votes, it’s who HANDLES the votes.
You’re suckers if you think this isn’t another rort, by the masters of rorting.
Vlad by the way has moved quickly to put his own guy in charge of Wagner’s African operations. He’s a military intelligence spook.
The problem with doing that is it becomes harder to have those operations at arms length, which was the most useful aspect of having Prigozhin run them as a private company boss. Wagner has been robust, lets say, in the fulfillment of their contracts.
I heard the other day that Utkin may have still been active GRU.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2023 11:32 am
Waynead Wolmby, 22, wants the Voice to get more Aboriginal children into education
Starts with the parents – they may have to give up all night card parties, and buying “coke and chips” for breakfast, from the local roadhouse. Oh, and “sorry business.”
RBA governor says climate change an “acute challenge” to monetary policy
It is not and it will never be.
Say hello to a 6% inflation “target”.
We may as well fully dollarise at this point and abolish the RBA.
Panama dollarised and has an excellent record of macroeconomic indicators. Stable, very low inflation and no risk of banking moral hazard. It’s free riding off the US but it is also otherwise 100% market based.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2023 11:44 am
Waynead Wolmby, 22, wants the Voice to get more Aboriginal children into education
An emerging leader and education worker from Aurukun has said what the Voice to Parliament needs to do for his community as he describes the pains of growing up Aboriginal in Australia.
Isaac McCarthy
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August 28, 2023 – 5:00AM
The Cairns Post
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Cape York
An emerging leader and education worker within the Aurukun community has said schooling is the antidote to a growing list of socio-economic woes hurting Far North Indigenous families.
Waynead Wolmby, 22, is a teacher aide at Aurukun School and the leader of the town’s local youth group.
Mr Wolmby said he strove every day to encourage the town’s kids to come to school, but acknowledges the hardship that keeps many away.
“I go to work everyday because I want to help these kids, to show them they can do anything if they come to school,” Mr Wolmby said.
“It’s quite hard and daunting when you live in a remote community because we have a lot of challenges. It can be quite hard for families to bring their kids to school.
“There’s loud music, alcohol, fighting, sorry business. There are a lot of factors.”
Mr Wolmby also said nutrition was a significant concern.
“We have a lot of health issues … because the nutrition is twice the price of the food in Cairns,” he said.
“Australia is one of the best countries, a ‘fair-go country’, but we are living in a third-world country. It’s ridiculous.”
Mr Wolmby was schooled in Aurukun until Year 8; his parents then enrolled him in the Cape York Leaders Program which allowed him to attend a private boarding school in Brisbane.
“It was quite hard leaving my family and community behind,” he said.
“But I was very fortunate to go down there and have that experience. If I stayed in community there would be nothing (for me). My parents wanted me to get out of the community and become someone, to help my community grow.
“I thank my parents for encouraging me to stick out five years of boarding. It was the best thing for me.
“My family wanted me to do my best, to go to school. My parents did not graduate school; they didn’t want that to pass down to me and my siblings. They wanted to break that cycle.”
Mr Wolmby completed a Certificate IV in youth work and is currently completing more study to become a teacher.
He said he hoped a potential Voice to Parliament, which he said he would vote for, would get more Indigenous children to participate in schooling.
“It will make a big difference … Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people will be part of decision making for the first time,” he said.
“When you look at our history, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people didn’t have a voice back then.
“Back then we couldn’t vote. People would be put into so-called missions, which were really dormitories. People had their kids taken away in the stolen generations.”
He said some people in his community did not have an understanding of the Voice.
“We need more people to go and explain the Voice to Parliament to our community, explain what it is and how it could help. We need to have it explained more to the grassroots level,” he said.
GreyRanga
August 30, 2023 11:44 am
Shatterzz I have been buying stuff off Temu for a while now. I brought a router table with fence and slide that I converted to a miniature table saw. I couldn’t have brought the piece of aluminium for the table for the same price as the finished article. The quality was top notch. I think now that I’ve brought quite a few things off them the prices have gone up. Wouldn’t be surprised if they have a highest price structure after they’ve got you hooked.
feelthebern
August 30, 2023 11:47 am
Turnbull did tap the breaks on Rudd & Conroy’s NBN.
So he wasn’t entirely terrible.
Only mostly terrible.
NZ as a 7Th State.
Why this distraction at this time?
Rhetorical question of course…
Roger
August 30, 2023 11:49 am
The WA Health Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson has accused a pro-life Christian lobby group of “spreading misinformation” in the abortion law debate, claiming “There is no such thing as a failed abortion. There is no such thing as babies born alive after an abortion”, calling claims to the contrary a scare campaign.
In fact, the minister’s claim contradicts evidence from VIC & QLD, where hundreds of babies have survived abortion, only to be left to die without medical assistance. In WA itself there are 31 documented cases of babies surviving abortions in the period 1998-2021.
The lobby group is petitioning for an amendment to the proposed Bill that would require medical assistance to be given to babies who survive late term abortions equivalent to that which prematurely born babies receive.
GreyRanga
August 30, 2023 11:49 am
ZK2A Mr Wolmby has done ok. He didn’t need a Voice to do what he’s done. Anyone from Aurukun can do the same thing. Poor choices are not someone elses problems.
feelthebern
August 30, 2023 11:50 am
Yaron Brook aint great.
Dave Smith & Michael Malice have referred to him as a William Buckley type.
That is, the manufactured opposition that wants to fail but also wants to be invited to all the right dinner parties.
Barry
August 30, 2023 11:52 am
Cassie of Sydney
Aug 30, 2023 11:34 AM
…
Hold on a moment. I’m not saying our electoral system is perfect but I am not as cynical as this. We are not the USA.
If you think the AEC is a-political, you are wrong. You already saw the AEC’s Tick vs Cross plan to disregard illiterate no-voters.
Getting Computershare to do the dirty work (unbidden, but with a nudge and a wink from the AEC) gives the AEC plausible deniability.
The Australian Left learns quickly from the USA. Always have. They send people over on fact finding tours to learn the latest techniques. They know how to do this.
calli
August 30, 2023 11:59 am
Turnbull did tap the breaks on Rudd & Conroy’s NBN.
All the easy, up front munni had been harvested and all that was left was to actually…deliver?
calli
August 30, 2023 12:02 pm
It might be the same pattern as the Commonwealth Games, Snowy 2.0, roads, tunnels and railways to nowhere.
The Light Rail is an example of how politically dangerous it is to actually build something.
Female staff members at a federal MP’s office have been left “shaken and fearing for their safety” following an altercation with a man reportedly in favour of the Voice.
…
Police were called to South Australian Liberal MP Tony Pasin’s office on Thursday after reports a man had allegedly trashed the foyer and abused female staffers.
CCTV vision obtained by The Australian showed the 61-year-old man appearing to be frustrated as he spoke with an employee at the reception desk.
Seconds later he is seen pushing flyers off the counter before storming out.
We can trust the Voice since they have the righteous high ground. How dare we suspicious people be suspicious of their altruistic motives!
Faith not fear is what sustains the human spirit. God bless her.
feelthebern
August 30, 2023 12:05 pm
The real slush money with the NBN would have been made with the 20 year plus servicing contracts.
Which Turd effectively ended by changing the technology mix.
Could you imagine trying to check some union doing the maintenance work on the NBN between Bourke & Cobar under the Rudd/Conroy model?
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 30, 2023 12:06 pm
WATCH LIVE: PM Albanese reveals Voice referendum date
Why is Sky being so dramatic about this? It’s not an amazing feat like some magic trick where Albo will pull a date out of an empty top-hat.
Why is Sky treating Liugi the Unbelievable like an illusionist… oh.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 12:07 pm
Why do animals of different species pair up in seeming friendships, what’s in it for them? This long video gives some excellent examples of unusual pairings and investigates why they occur, so better than just showing the examples as some others do. The video calls in animal behaviourists to explain some of the sequences shown by looking at redirected instincts due to early attachment deprivation, isolation, boredom when food is plentiful, maternal thwarting and sexual frustration. Many of these situations are found in animals who live with or near humans (an intervening variable), but not always. Play and nurturing instincts are highly explanatory for most instances. It ends with a curious question – can animals keep other animals as ‘pets’ for amusement, offering food and care? Some cases in primates give rise to speculation re this. Fun to watch a swimming orangutan swim, let alone see him sharing his swim with his ‘pet’ dog that he feeds regularly. Stick with it all the way through to see this.
It shouldn’t surprise us if animals go interspecies in emotional seeking. We as humans do it all the time, often for many of the same reasons.
The NBN under Rudd/Conroy was like HIV/AIDS.
Under Abbott/Turnbull onwards it turned into a case of Herpes.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 12:13 pm
We are getting worried we may not be able to vote in the Referendum. We leave Australia on 19th September for Italy, before polls open for absentee votes.
Wot to do?
There must be some way round this. Will we have to find an Australian Consul somewhere?
NZ as a 7Th State.
Why this distraction at this time?
Rhetorical question of course…
1. The PU is a cost centre.
2. NZ is assaulting civil rights.
3. Hello compassionate conservatism.
4. Nuke up.
5. Use the outlands as forward bases for the homeland against an increasingly aggressive China.
Aug 29, 2023 9:25 PM
I think that people should be confronted with the reality of their silly ideas.
Allow individuals to have the same number of public holidays as now, but take them when they wish. If they work on any of the current holidays, they get no penalty pay. All they get is days off at a time of their choosing.
There you go. Gorillas are Gaia’s holy druids or something. Bad weather causes pedos, and Chinese overfishing has nothing at all to do with Japanese fishing succes, or lack of it.
TurnBullShit and the Stick Insect. Whining more like……………………….
Spinning Mouse
August 30, 2023 12:31 pm
Malcolm Turnbull should be horsewhipped through the streets….
Plus 100 upticks
Delta A
August 30, 2023 12:35 pm
require medical assistance to be given to babies who survive late term abortions equivalent to that which prematurely born babies receive.
What the hell is going on here?
The only thing separating these two babies is a woman’s whim.
Wicked!
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 12:40 pm
A terrific lunch that extended into a longer afternoon tea yesterday with the woman, now nearly fifty, whom I used to include in my family a lot when she was child. She still regards my two older boys as surrogate brothers, which makes me a sort of extra mum. I have only seen her once since she was a young adult heading for America to get married, and that was briefly twenty-two years ago now, where she recalled our ‘big house’ at that time. We’ve kept in touch only by Christmas cards.
I must say that she was and still is a bright, bubbly and very forthright grown woman who is a delight to have as a surrogate daughter, long away and now returned. We discovered that we had tremendous closeness still, reminiscing the past and also as she filled me in on her American life with her husband and two teenage children in Washington State. The kids were impressive, polite, exemplary in schooling, one in a STEM school and the other in a BioMed school (hot-housing them for entry to a major College). They don’t ‘do’ social media they tell me, only youtube. Their mum is an example to them of determination and application. She’s moved career from financial advising to what we’d call ‘supply’ teaching. When I asked how she’d made the move, she said airily that she’d enrolled in a special interest in-depth course in … wait for it … calculus, and the teaching followed from there. I loved it, she enthused. Well, her father (an ex-Cambridge man who went troppo in FNQ ages ago) was always a maths brain, so I guess that figures.
We didn’t ‘do’ politics yesterday, best not to, although we made a few pointed Aussie remarks about ‘bludging’ dominating Australian Labor now. Her husband works in top levels of ‘Human Services’ and totally agreed with us. You won’t believe the things he’s seen, she adds, free everything including huge TV’s, we are all so sick of it.
Democrats by vote we suspect, an affiliation unlikely to change, but definitely rather like my Southern Democrat cousin in Louisiana – totally fed up with the Democrat Party as it is at present. They will likely not turn out to vote if it’s Biden, observes Hairy to me after driving them all back to their AirBnB in Bondi.
In 1878, the Bohemian Club of San Francisco first took to the woods in Taylorville, California (present-day Samuel P. Taylor State Park) for a summer celebration that they called Midsummer High Jinks.[3] Poems were recited, songs were sung, and dramatic readings were given; the practice was repeated each summer in other areas, primarily near the Russian River in Sonoma County. In 1881, the ceremony of the Cremation of Care was first conducted after the various individual performances, with James F. Bowman as Sire.[4] The ceremony was further expanded in 1893 by a member named Joseph D. Redding,[5] with a Midsummer High Jinks entitled The Sacrifice in the Forest, or simply “Druid Jinks”, in which brotherly love and Christianity battled and won against paganism, converting the druids away from bloody sacrifice.[6] Redding formed the framework of the ceremony but the main actors, including George Tisdale Bromley as High Priest, were asked to supply their own major speeches.[6] In 1904, the prologue to William Henry Irwin’s Grove Play The Hamadryads included text such as “Touch their world-blind eyes with fairy unguents.” The play depicted the intrusion, the battles, and the symbolic death of the maleficent Spirit of Care.[7]
In the earliest productions of the Grove Play, several restrictions were imposed upon the Sire (host, chief planner, and master of ceremonies[8]) including that the stage setting be the natural forest backdrop and that the “malign character Care” be introduced in the plot, to wreak havoc with the characters and then be faced down and vanquished by the hero.[2] In these early productions, the Cremation of Care immediately followed, and lasted until midnight.[9] The end of the ceremony was signaled by a lively Jinks Band rendition of There’ll Be a Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight,[10] and the club members sat down to a late dinner and revelry.[11]
From 1913, the Cremation of Care was disengaged from the Grove Play, and rescheduled for the first night of the summer encampment.[1] The Grove Play was set for the final weekend.[1] A different Sire was appointed for the Cremation, and some concerns were raised in subsequent years that the Cremation of Care was growing into its own secondary Grove Play. Some Sires experimented with a satirical treatment, or topical themes such as a patriotic World War I treatment in 1918 and an unpopular Prohibition script in 1919. “Care” was not killed, let alone cremated, in the 1922 version. In response to member complaints about the unpredictable quality of the opening night fare, Charles K. Field was asked in 1923 to standardize the script for what became the basis for every subsequent Cremation of Care ceremony.[12]
feelthebern
August 30, 2023 12:50 pm
Voting no on The Voice will make Black Baby Jesus cry.
New polling has revealed that Tasmanians have joined their mainland counterparts in WA and Queensland in turning against the Voice to Parliament referendum, in what “no” campaign sources are calling a “game changer”.
It comes as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese travels to Adelaide to formally announce the date of the referendum vote, widely expected to be October 14.
The poll, conducted by Insightfully for the Institute of Public Affairs, asked 1156 Tasmanian voters how they intended to vote on the referendum, using the official question that will be put to Australians on ballot papers.
The polling found that a majority 53 per cent of Tasmanians intended to vote “no”, with just 42 per cent indicating a likely “yes” vote.
Five per cent were undecided.
Meanwhile, a poll of 605 South Australians conducted by the Australia Institute has found that 43 per cent of voters in that state intended to vote “yes” versus 39 per cent who said “no”.
About 18 per cent said they were undecided, but when asked which way they were leaning those voters split exactly in the middle to deliver Yes a narrow 52-48 lead.
Earlier this month Newspoll analysis found that Queensland and WA were also firmly in the “no” camp, meaning that if the numbers held through polling day the “yes” campaign would need to secure Tasmania as well as South Australia, Victoria, and NSW in order to change the constitution.
The same polling showed Victoria tied at 44-44 and NSW slightly in the “yes” camp” at 45-42.
That analysis also showed that South Australia was firmly in the “yes” camp at 48-42, though many observers have said that it would be a key battleground state.
Rosie
August 30, 2023 1:01 pm
Apply for a postal vote as soon as writs are issued.
Diogenes
August 30, 2023 1:08 pm
Malcolm Turnbull should be horsewhipped through the streets….
Plus 100 upticks
You ungenerous bounder. It should be at least a million upticks.
My parents wanted me to get out of the community and become someone, to help my community grow.
That’s the takaway from the article.
Everything is the responsibility of families that no amount of taxpayer money (as Noel Pearson has already amply demonstrated) can fix.
I’m curious though, because this bill was drafted under Scumbag and that vile rodent Paul Fletcher (sadly, one the Teals missed in their scalp haul last year), my question is, what were the Liberals thinking when they drafted these laws?
Apart from not thinking at all, they were hoping for a position in the Uniparty. Managerialism is their credo and they want in.
Gilas
August 30, 2023 1:10 pm
Dot
Aug 30, 2023 12:54 PM
Gilas, you were right again, take a bow.
Unnecessary, stupid comment, Dot.
You can do better, as you usually do.
Rosie
August 30, 2023 1:12 pm
What’s the difference between accepting a, most likely free Christian run, private boarding school place and getting an education via a mission?
Vicki
August 30, 2023 1:14 pm
If you think the AEC is a-political, you are wrong. You already saw the AEC’s Tick vs Cross plan to disregard illiterate no-voters.
Some years ago I attended a discussion in rooms in the NSW Parliament regarding the integrity of the voting system in Australia. Both Mark Latham and election guru Malcolm Mackerras (as I recall) addressed the audience, giving us the benefit of their personal experience. I think we were all astounded to be told about the flaws and potential flaws in vote counting.
I also recall an instance in WA years ago when bundles of voting papers went astray. Cant recall ever hearing the reason or what became of them.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 1:16 pm
Managerialism is their credo and they want in.
And they are not even good at that.
Bruce of Newcastle
August 30, 2023 1:17 pm
The mal-dentated spittle-flecked gnome has announced the referendum date..
I’d’ve preferred July 14 to Oct 14, but that’s just me.
One can never have too many tumbrils.
Knuckle Dragger
August 30, 2023 1:23 pm
Here we go (Newscorp):
Adelaide’s north was the focal point for Wednesday’s official launch of the Yes campaign with Prime Minister Anthony Albanese announcing October 14 as the date for this year’s Voice referendum to a crowd of hundreds of supporters.
And:
“On October 14th, you are not being asked to vote for a political party or for a person.
“You’re being asked to vote for an idea.”
Which is the exact reason this shitfight is tanking.
Tintarella di Luna
August 30, 2023 1:24 pm
Near San Fran. Good luck with that.
The deep-pocketed investors reportedly plan to turn the land into their vision of an ideal city, featuring sustainable energy and a pedestrian-friendly layout.
Multi-funktion polis anyone? — I’d left out the ‘n’ in a previous comment which remains in moderation. Sorry Doverlord
Every InVoice Postal Vote will at times be completely outside of any scrutineering.
There should be no postal voting unless specific proof of inability to attend is provided .. If the VOICE & changing the Constitution is sooo, bloody, important to Luigi he should legislate in-person voting compulsory!
He said he hoped a potential Voice to Parliament, which he said he would vote for, would get more Indigenous children to participate in schooling.
There s nothing stopping them going to school now so will a VOICE affect change?
Why is it these interviwers never ask the “simple” questions when this sort of spiel is trundled out .. FFS!
Yep. And just wait until they start noticing all the whale deaths and put restrictions on wind construction to protect them. Suddenly the economics will ratchet another step worse.
I’m curious about the level of noise for submarines using sonar systems.
It seems the soundwaves affect whales. Will they enable Russian or Chinese Boomers to hide close inshore to the Continental US? A depressed trajectory missile with 3 nukes each – the Type 094 carries 12 for a total of 36 warheads – could take out a large percentage of the US retaliatory strike capability in far less time than an ICBM launch from the Chinese mainland.
Knuckle Dragger
August 30, 2023 1:42 pm
He said he hoped a potential Voice to Parliament, which he said he would vote for, would get more Indigenous children to participate in schooling
How?
Gilas
August 30, 2023 1:45 pm
Now that the date’s been announced, minds can focus.
Please consider volunteering here.
If the racists succeed, one can at least know that he/she tried to derail this abortion.
Pedro the Loafer
August 30, 2023 1:47 pm
Living in country WA often gives a pretty narrow outlook on matters of national importance like how the referendum is trending.
Locals here go feral when the Voice is mentioned, particularly as many were liable to be adversely affected with the WA .gov stupid aboriginal heritage laws. No “Yes” posters or shirts to be seen anywhere. (The Dorpers are totally disinterested despite their blak heads and mixed genealogy).
However, it appears that city folks, especially in the SE corner of Oz, are trending in favour of “Yes”. I would be interested to hear the views of city Cats as to whether this is true or a media/ALP beat up, and why the disparity between city and country voters.
Over to youse.
Bruce of Newcastle
August 30, 2023 1:50 pm
Winston – I don’t think subs are much threat to whales because using sonar is like putting up a giant sign saying HERE I AM in neon lights. Sub guys tend not to do that as it’s bad for their health. Although if Vlad lets a Poseidon off opposite Manhattan that would be bad for whales. You just might see one impaled on the Empire State Building spire the tsunami will be so tall.
John H.
August 30, 2023 1:53 pm
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 1:41 PM
Bruce O’Nuke
Yep. And just wait until they start noticing all the whale deaths and put restrictions on wind construction to protect them. Suddenly the economics will ratchet another step worse.
I’m curious about the level of noise for submarines using sonar systems.
It seems the soundwaves affect whales. Will they enable Russian or Chinese Boomers to hide close inshore to the Continental US? A depressed trajectory missile with 3 nukes each – the Type 094 carries 12 for a total of 36 warheads – could take out a large percentage of the US retaliatory strike capability in far less time than an ICBM launch from the Chinese mainland.
Investigations into alleged sexual assaults by Till Lindemann, frontman with German metal superstars Rammstein, have been dropped by prosecutors.
Berlin state prosecutors said investigations, which began in June, “did not provide any evidence”, and that they were unable to substantiate allegations as law enforcement agencies had not received direct testimony from the accusers.
Hahahahaha.
If law enforcement never received testimony, then why were prosecutors investigating it?
Bruce of Newcastle
August 30, 2023 2:01 pm
If law enforcement never received testimony, then why were prosecutors investigating it?
Jealousy. Heavy metal bands get more hot groupies than state prosecutors do.
Bourne1879
August 30, 2023 2:02 pm
Rosie,
If looking for info on Noel Pearson and the Arakun school finances saga then a Google search should bring up two fairly detailed Guardian newspaper articles from that time. I found them a couple of weeks ago. Not an indicator of good governance.
What’s worse? Spending $3.6 million to save an hour taxi ride or insulting Gaia with awful CO2 emissions?
Barking Toad
August 30, 2023 2:17 pm
Sorry shatterezz- I’ll be sending a postal vote with a big ferking NO on it. Attending the poll place won’t happen.
Notwithstanding some transport and mobility issues I am concerned that I may be arrested for punching out some ferkwit who tries to shove a yes pamphlet down my throat.
Makka
August 30, 2023 2:21 pm
Timing. It’s always so important.
The day after the massive pay rise is announced for our poliscumbags, comes the announcement of the Voice referendum date and wall to wall media orgy of Yes/No propaganda.
Pay rise? What pay rise?
Aaron
August 30, 2023 2:25 pm
‘65,000 years of history’: PM sparks thunderous applause at ‘Yes’ launch.
Basically one day repeated for 65,000 years.
No clothes, shelter, domesticated animals, wheel etc.
Utopia. Unless you had toothache, a boil, infected cut or were female, infant or in some other way weak or suffering some malady.
To call what went on here for however long a “culture” is an insult to cultures everyway.
‘65,000 years of history’: PM sparks thunderous applause at ‘Yes’ launch.
65,000 years (allegedly) of pre-history, he means.
Pre-history means before written records; in all that time aboriginal society had absolutely no writing.
In the Middle and Near East writing, and therefore history, goes back 5,000 years.
Dunny Brush
August 30, 2023 2:49 pm
Pedro: re your query about how the referendum is travelling in the SE of this increasingly stupid country: I live in Kooyong and at the last federal election pretty much every fifth house had a Teal poster stuck to the front fence. For the moment at least, there is just one Yes poster on a front fence every three or four blocks.
The other morning Yes campaigners at the train station were grinning inanely and wishing everyone a good day while trying to hand people pamphlets. Of the ten or so people who walked past when I was going up the ramp, only one took a pamphlet
This all might change of course, but the Yes campaign around here feels very low energy.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 2:54 pm
‘65,000 years of history’: PM sparks thunderous applause at ‘Yes’ launch.
65,000 years (allegedly) of pre-history, he means.
“Yes” voters seem to have little grasp of history, prehistory or anthropology. They are driven solely by “the vibe” & emotion.
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 2:56 pm
65,000 years of history’: PM sparks thunderous applause at ‘Yes’ launch.
Albo’s in Radelaide for a reason. Things aren’t going well.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2023 2:56 pm
Utopia. Unless you had toothache, a boil, infected cut or were female, infant or in some other way weak or suffering some malady.
Utopia. Unless you had infringed one of the endless “tabus” and were subject to savage, brutal tribal punishment, and were left behind to die when the tribe moved on.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 3:00 pm
Can I get a postal vote before 19th September?
I didn’t think I could.
Gilas
August 30, 2023 3:00 pm
An excellent 8-minute soliloquy on why Communism is the same, and yet far worse than Fascism.. by Konstantin Kisin.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 3:01 pm
Haven’t seen a ‘yes’ poster anywhere around Rose Bay or Vaucluse, so far anyway.
This is Teal Central.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 3:03 pm
Noel Pearson and the Arakun school
I know a husband and wife who taught at Arukan many years ago. Both were Christian evangelists whose intentions were good. But, like many others, they encountered the realities of Aboriginal community life, and it was not pretty. They returned to city life pretty disillusioned.
On the other hand, everything that I have read of the Cape York Hope School that Pearson set up, is encouraging. He was very well educated himself by Methodist clergy (as I recall) & he is a great advocate of “direct learning & teaching” which, fundamentally, is good “old school” teaching of reading/writing/and arithmetic by the methods of repetition and practice that were so successful in times past.
Crossie
August 30, 2023 3:03 pm
Basically one day repeated for 65,000 years.
No clothes, shelter, domesticated animals, wheel etc.
Utopia. Unless you had toothache, a boil, infected cut or were female, infant or in some other way weak or suffering some malady.
To call what went on here for however long a “culture” is an insult to cultures everyway.
Aaron, I am constantly amazed by the adulation of the most primitive way of life by the people most deeply steeped in modernity and who cannot imagine not checking their phone even for five minutes.
DrBeauGan
August 30, 2023 3:04 pm
Of course there was an aboriginal culture.
We gave them writing, clothing, houses, medicine and electricity. They gave us the rainbow serpent, the boomerang and the didgeridoo. Be appropriately grateful.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 3:04 pm
Incidentally, I wish someone would approach me in the street with “Yes” propaganda. I am “ready and waiting”.
Buccaneer
August 30, 2023 3:10 pm
They want to give us Makarrata.
Makarrata literally means a spear penetrating, usually the thigh, of a person that has done wrong… so that they cannot hunt anymore, that they cannot walk properly, that they cannot run properly; to maim them, to settle them down, to calm them — that’s Makarrata.”
Their words.
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 3:11 pm
The Paywallian has a good story on the mathematics and history of referenda. This one’s doomed.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 3:15 pm
They gave us the rainbow serpent, the boomerang and the didgeridoo. Be appropriately grateful.
Ha ha! Most of you know of my interest in Aboriginal artefacts and the relevance to our own property. I have to tell you that I indeed have 2 very old boomerangs (dating to early 20th century), a beautiful didg I bought in Mataranka in NT (colours of red/ochre & black of the desert), and a magnificent, old bark painting of the rainbow serpent which I have mounted in a perspex case). I treasure them all.
Our valley is sometimes called the land of the rainbow, since a magnificent rainbow forms from time to time right across our farm in our part of the valley. I think it may partly explain why we have a bora ring. The whole valley forms a gigantic stone bora ring to a large extent, since it is an enclosed sandstone canyon. It is quite breathtaking and most likely a spiritual place.
feelthebern
August 30, 2023 3:17 pm
Everything of consequence in Australian history has been launched in Adelaide.
calli
August 30, 2023 3:22 pm
Thanks Gilas.
Totalitarianism of the mind.
That’s a keeper.
The Beer whisperer
August 30, 2023 3:24 pm
These spruikers will be on the receiving end of a verbal spray of the kind they’ve never ever received before. After approaching Cassie of Sydney, they will be stunned mullets!
Video proof, Cass, or it never happened.
calli
August 30, 2023 3:26 pm
I thought Tenterfield was the launching pad for Federation.
Also, whilst I think I managed to scare off some spruikers on Oxford Street, I will monitor closely and carefully their activities over the next few weeks. I look forward to not being nice to these virtue signalling peddlers of lies, lies and lies, in fact I look forward to being very unpleasant.
But as Lizzie said above, it’s pretty quiet around Wentworth, unlike what it was like before May 2022 when the electorate was awash with the Teal posters and Teal cult adherents (mainly female) running all over the place. There are one or two businesses on Oxford Street with “YES” posters on the front, these two businesses also spruiked for Allegra prior to the federal election last year, and this will make you roar with laughter, these two businesses are loudly complaining about the proposed cycle path planned for Oxford Street, which will impact them directly. HA HA HA. You know, I have zero sympathy for the hypocrites. I feel like walking in to each business and telling them that since they’re so opposed to the cycle path, then we must consult the local Indigenous elders of Paddington, Woollahra, Centennial Park, Bondi Junction etc, and if the elders say “YES”, who are the business owners to complain? It’ll be the Voice in action.
I’m sorry, and I’m sure some here will think I am not being very nice but given these businesses support for da Voice, when the cycle path is being constructed, causing them to lose businesses, I will laugh out loud because people like that can just F*CK off.
hzhousewife
August 30, 2023 3:30 pm
Vicki, please take this with amusement, but have you though of informing your offspring that you are bequeathing your beautiful part of the valley to the original indigenous inhabitants?
GreyRanga
August 30, 2023 3:33 pm
In canbra no yes advertising that I’ve noticed. Done and dusted yes, not that it makes any difference in the territories.
Knuckle Dragger
August 30, 2023 3:33 pm
Okay.
1. The didgeridoo is not its actual name. That was the name given it by bastard whitey when they heard it, and tried to approximate what it sounded like;
2. It is relatively new – only about 1000 years old;
3. It is not traditionally used by 300-odd nations. Its home is a very small group of Yolgnu* tribes in north-east Arnhem Land, and nowhere else. Mataranka, an hour south of Katherine is a very long way indeed from where this thing actually comes from;
4. Actual instruments are slightly conical, unlike the cylindrical ones used at WTC etc across this wide brown land and in Yothu Yindi clips;
4. Its actual name, according to the locals is a yidaki; and
5. They are not the frontmen but very much backup for death ceremonies and the like, where previously alive people were ‘sung away’ – a practice also nonexistent anywhere else; and
6. They are painted just for tourists.
Knuckle Dragger
August 30, 2023 3:36 pm
*Spiritual home of the late Mr Yunupingu – generational thief, helicopter-owner, condemner of his own extended tribe to endemic poverty and thus revered by the current Prime Minister.
Boambee John
August 30, 2023 3:36 pm
Gilas
Aug 30, 2023 3:00 PM
An excellent 8-minute soliloquy on why Communism is the same, and yet far worse than Fascism.. by Konstantin Kisin.
While most who have thought about the subject agree, the fat fascist fool begs to differ.
DrBeauGan
August 30, 2023 3:36 pm
I treasure them all.
Quite rightly. Everything human beings get up to and produce is worth keeping and recording.
A few centuries ago, Europeans came here and made contact with people who had been isolated for millennia. Nine months later they started producing babies together, and now there are scads of people with mixed ancestry. What this establishes is that there is only one race, the human race, and that the differences are very superficial and not important.
There are profound cultural differences, but cultures interact and change; people learn off each other. Sensible people copy the good ideas wherever they find them. If little green men from outer space come here with superior science and technology, anyone with a grain of sense will try to learn from them. That will destroy our existing culture, and we’ll develop a better one. That’s how it works.
It’s how it’s worked for the great majority of the aborigines. See Bess and Jacinta Price for example. And our own BB.
Artur Rehi and Times Radio are making some huge claims about Ukrainian gains.
I don’t buy Ukraine blitzing through the other lines of defence if the first one is breached, nor do I think Russians will surrender en masse.
Prisoners of war don’t necessarily tell the truth. “We’re starving” can just mean “give us food, we’re hungry”.
Apparently, Putin is going to pave over the Wagner graveyard. No idea if it is real or just propaganda.
The Beer whisperer
August 30, 2023 3:44 pm
Pre-history means before written records; in all that time aboriginal society had absolutely no writing.
Not quite 100% true. In certain places they had proto-writing via tree carvings but trees don’t last forever so it’s impossible to know how long the practice existed, as it also wasn’t widespread. As it was a lost art until recently, they can’t really tell what their meanings were. I met a guy who had revived it but they’re ornamental only as there’s no known meaning, but I haven’t read the full article.
The Beer whisperer
August 30, 2023 3:45 pm
Yeah, I’m lazy like that.
Steve trickler
August 30, 2023 3:46 pm
Yep, they did. For those that disagree … go watch a gardening channel.
It’s how it’s worked for the great majority of the aborigines. See Bess and Jacinta Price for example. And our own BB.
Absolutely agree. Most of the problems espoused by the “Yes” camp don’t exist for urban Aborigines in the big cities. As I’ve said here before – we employed an Aboriginal manager years ago and he went on to work for a bigger company than ours. There are lots and lots of success stories – but the “Yes” lobby just doesn’t want to talk about those!
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 3:51 pm
I’m on the last chapter now of Rowan Dean’s 2017 novel, reprinted 2018, on two ‘lads behaving badly’, very badly, as they ace the money and girls (supposedly) in the heady ‘drunk then hungover’ lunching-on-the-client world of UK advertising, harking back to the soaked-in-it days of the 80’s. It definitely rings true to things I lived through as a young copywriter in the sixties in the Australian context, for the mass media was where it was at, cranking up the markets in those days of alcohol-fuelled excess, with ‘kiddie creatives’ moving into line to take over calling the shots as paired couples, one Art Director to One Copywriter, married till a baby (the ‘idea’) was born as an ad and raised to be an award-winning offspring.
Titled ‘Corkscrewed’, Rowan Dean’s book took a time warp look back to that golden era when it was published only six years ago, and now it reads like a report from the far side of the moon, an anthropological tour of somewhere else, definitely no longer of this contemporary world. A tightening of the thumbscrews is now doubling every two years. There’s no corkscrewed any more. So much has changed, even the title. We’re screw topped these days in the media industry and strictly after hours for it. Drunks are shunted with embarrassment to AA fervently vowing never again to place an unwanted hand on a chestfeeder’s knee, let alone ever deliver a funny ad to a Creative Director who now waves the ‘rules of woke’ around with an abandon that can no longer be called gay.
You can still get a wet knickers full of laughs at some of Rowan’s scenarios though.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 3:52 pm
In certain places they had proto-writing via tree carvings but trees don’t last forever so it’s impossible to know how long the practice existed, as it also wasn’t widespread.
Quite true. While we have stone implements etc as evidence of occupation, and the ring itself, I have never been able to locate tree engravings, even on very old logs that have fallen in the area. Mind you, many early settlers carved them out of trees to bring back to the homestead, and others simply destroyed them. But largely, it is the effects of time.
H B Bear
August 30, 2023 3:52 pm
Radelaide, it’s not just pink Stubbies and throwing pooftas in the Torrens.
bons
August 30, 2023 3:53 pm
My BIL immolated himself in the tractor shed this morning.
His sight has survived but he is badly burned. They have him asleep but not in a coma.
He is going to be beside himself when he wakes up and realises that after 50 years around farm machinery he did something idiotic.
QUESTION: Do you think the Neocons are more dangerous than Russia or China?
DK
ANSWER: Absolutely. In Chess, you face your adversary. You know your enemy, and you try to unravel his strategy. In geopolitics, the greatest danger is always the enemy within your own ranks. For a handful of silver, it was a Greek who showed the path for the Persians to come behind the Spartans through the hills and annihilate them from behind in the Battle of Thermopylae. Judas also betrayed Jesus for a handful of silver. History has proven countless times that your greatest enemy always emerges from within.
Any politician who now supports Ukraine and spouts out the BS we will be next is unworthy of any public office, including sanitation cleaning toilets. They have NO place in politics and should NEVER be allowed to take the White House, regardless of their party. The Neocons have created endless wars on their own theory that democracy should dominate the world. Their version of democracy is really tyranny, for we have no right to vote on taxes, vaccines, lockdowns, or war. We are drafted with not right to vote and ordered to die on a foreign battlefield because of their theory in which we have no say whatsoever.”
<em>Its home is a very small group of Yolgnu* tribes in north-east Arnhem Land
KD, you are right about the strict origin of the didg – although it was found in a lot of places throughout Arnhem Land. Yes – of course – my Mataranka didg (which is artistically beautiful) was made by recent hands.
But you can say the same about the market in Aboriginal art. Geoffrey Bardon’s encouragement of the Papunya school, derived from the temporary sand art, developed a very recent expression of Aboriginal relationship with the land.
Farmer Gez
August 30, 2023 4:02 pm
Sorry to hear that bons. I hope he pulls through okay.
It’s a lesson that I’ll put in the memory for our place and as my old dad used to say “Get the fright before the accident not after”.
calli
August 30, 2023 4:02 pm
Speaking of the gardening channel, my Mexican lily is about to flower for the first time.
I feel like Mr Wilson in Dennis the Menace.
calli
August 30, 2023 4:03 pm
Click on the photo for a better view. It looks like something Alien would grow in her greenhouse.
calli
August 30, 2023 4:05 pm
That’s terrible bons. Poor man. We all do dumb things around machinery.
Aaron
August 30, 2023 4:05 pm
Considering the total devotion given to this referendum, where do Labor and the coalition of the woke go if it is defeated?
Aaron, I am constantly amazed by the adulation of the most primitive way of life by the people most deeply steeped in modernity and who cannot imagine not checking their phone even for five minutes.
Well said!
calli
August 30, 2023 4:08 pm
Aaron, I imagine they’ll go straight to parliament and legislate it anyway.
They no longer represent us. And those who do are sidelined.
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 4:11 pm
An excellent 8-minute soliloquy on why Communism is the same, and yet far worse than Fascism.
One of the funny distinctions between fascism (essentially a synonym for Nazi Germany) and Communism (Russia and China, and for God’s sake don’t mention North Korea) is that Fascism is only known from a mere decade and a half, but Communism over six decades (for the Russian model). And China? Well over the last 30 years or so they have surreptitiously morphed into state-run capitalism. But prior to that it was a natural development of the Communism it began with.
And while Communism in its full putrid flower limped along from times of war into times of peace, Fascism (as in Nazism) did not have a chance to form a ‘peace’ form.
It is funny that a central tenet of communism, in all its variants, is that it had teased from history the secret unseen workings of societies, and was uniquely able to predict future developments, and smoothly prepare the way toward the ultimate denouement without the pointless detours through barren mirages…such as we enjoy now.
This is the reason a spotty Critical Sociology student who lasted a whole week at Maccas is able to forewarn Elon Musk that his entire enterprise is going to fail.
There was a novel and movie years ago called (I think) Fatherland. It was set in a world where the Germans had won WWII. While in war the SS was filled with fanatics, afterward standards were relaxed, and there were even people of a more ponderous disposition. With all the most horrific objectives achieved there were not so many horrors left: persecuting Jews is a vacuous proposition when there are no Jews left, but that is hardly a justification.
I suspect Nazism, if it had survived into peace time, would be as indistinguishable from the Russian peacetime as the Russian wartime was indistinguishable from Nazi wartime. And this would be because European state totalitarianism is uniform.
Compare that to Chinese Communism. Russian Communism and Nazi Fascism would be almost impossible to tell apart, while Chinese Communism would seem alien by comparison.
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 4:12 pm
WORD WALL ALERT!!!
Pogria
August 30, 2023 4:17 pm
bons,
send him our best. What a bugger. I hope the burns aren’t too deep.
calli
August 30, 2023 4:19 pm
Something in that soliloquy that I do take issue with – the point that the Fascists did not steal and redistribute private property like the Communists.
We know that isn’t true – in one very specific and horrifying incidence they did just that. Families are still trying to recover their property to this day.
Some years ago I attended a discussion in rooms in the NSW Parliament regarding the integrity of the voting system in Australia. Both Mark Latham and election guru Malcolm Mackerras (as I recall) addressed the audience, giving us the benefit of their personal experience. I think we were all astounded to be told about the flaws and potential flaws in vote counting.
I make my predictions which begin with me predicting Saturday 14 October as polling day. …
For the national vote I predict 53% YES and 47% NO. I say four states will record affirmative majorities (New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania) and two states will reject the Voice – Queensland and Western Australia.
…
In a later article, I’ll explain why the unique virtues of the Voice proposal justifies my first ever YES vote.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 4:27 pm
As well as carved trees, Aboriginal tribes also had Tjuringas or Churungas, which were message sticks. The were small pieces of wood, often shaped into a rounded point at each end, and could contained intricate carvings similar in style to those found on the trees. I used to have one, given to me in Western Australia; it was polished black wood, and the carving was exceptional. It was obviously of sacred significance and could also serve as a tribal identifier. Other sorts of message sticks used simple symbols, were sparse and roughly worked and carried simple messages. I suspect they were mainly a product of European influence, an old idea given new possibilities. The main issue with these ancient sticks is that they were highly sacred objects. Seeing them as some form of ancient written communication is probably mostly wrong.
Chris
August 30, 2023 4:29 pm
All the best to your brother and you bons.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 4:30 pm
For the national vote I predict 53% YES and 47% NO. I say four states will record affirmative majorities (New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania) and two states will reject the Voice – Queensland and Western Australia.
…
Hell!
Fair Shake
August 30, 2023 4:34 pm
5 of my comments rejected from The Australian today. protection racket continues.
I only mentioned: Albo, The miserable ghost, Chalmers, the vice and dickhead Victorian colleagues.
calli
August 30, 2023 4:36 pm
In a later article, I’ll explain why the unique virtues of the Voice proposal justifies my first ever YES vote.
At a glance, I do believe Mackerras is Hi Alan-ing.
It’s a neat form of nudging. It requires belief, firstly, that he has always voted “no”…but not this time.
That guy is awesome. Fantastic reads and says it like it is and pulls no punches.
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2023 4:37 pm
H B Bear
Aug 30, 2023 10:28 AM
Voice referendum ‘definitely winnable’: Turnbull
Apart from an Sydney insider deal alongside Trevor Kennedy on Ozemail, Lord Waffleworth does not have a track record of success.
Some say that was very, very fortunate.
The Beer whisperer
August 30, 2023 4:38 pm
Considering the total devotion given to this referendum, where do Labor and the coalition of the woke go if it is defeated?
Call everyone racist. It’ll be like the Awesome song in The Lego Movie with awesome changed to racist.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 4:38 pm
My BIL immolated himself in the tractor shed this morning.
His sight has survived but he is badly burned. They have him asleep but not in a coma.
He is going to be beside himself when he wakes up and realises that after 50 years around farm machinery he did something idiotic.
That is awful – what we all dread. Can you say how it occurred?
My dad was back burning during a fire season & took a leaking backpack (with I think diesel in it) from a young inexperienced guy & promptly found his own overalls caught fire. He pulled his overalls down as quickly as he could, but his calves were badly burned. I can still recall as an eight year old visiting him in hospital. They had put some purple stuff over his burns. He recovered but had very scarred legs and very thin skin coverage.
I wish your BIL a swift recovery. They are very good with severe burns these days. Little comfort, I know.
P
August 30, 2023 4:40 pm
Considering the total devotion given to this referendum, where do Labor and the coalition of the woke go if it is defeated?
By hook or by crook, they do not intend to be defeated.
Chris
August 30, 2023 4:42 pm
It took almost 50 years for the USD to replace the British pound.
Pthah. Newbies.
Nothing beats the Spanish silver dollar. 8 Rrrrreales, me hearrrrties.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 4:42 pm
Many peoples in pre-literature cultures had a set of symbols that provoked stories and meanings which were known to people well versed in oral traditions. They were not languages themselves in any real sense. For instance there are carved stones in parts of Eastern Scotland, known as Pictish stones, that depict symbols and occasional realistic pictures. The symbols have been interpreted in some styles as genealogical reckoners, and they probably are just that. This is not proto-writing though as early hieroglyphs became. They remain as memory-joggers, as symbols for an oral transmission.
Vicki
August 30, 2023 4:43 pm
Between January 2024 and November 2024, we’ll be phasing out our cash and cheque services across all our banking and wealth management products, including super and pension accounts. We’ll also be switching off our automated telephone banking service used to make payments over the phone.
Macquarie Bank are giving notice that they are digitalising.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 4:46 pm
It’s a neat form of nudging. It requires belief, firstly, that he has always voted “no”…but not this time.
Using his name is his appeal to authority: I’m good on elections so believe me on this.
This is not an election.
Sancho Panzer
August 30, 2023 4:49 pm
feelthebern
Aug 30, 2023 11:47 AM
Turnbull did tap the breaks on Rudd & Conroy’s NBN.
So he wasn’t entirely terrible.
Only mostly terrible.
Hmmm.
Not giving a lot of credit there.
He only went Plan B because Plan A didn’t have Malcolm’s name on the Chairman’s Lounge champers coaster.
If Kevni had proposed fibre to the street, Trumble would have gone fibre to the home.
Simple “Not Invented By Me” syndrome.
Nothing to do with fiscal responsibility.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 4:53 pm
Lizzie, you and Hairy must vote.
The spirit is very willing but how do we get those bits of paper and get them in?
Before September 19th.
I know. I will ask my MP, Allegra Spender.
Tell me, Allegra, what can you do for me?
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 30, 2023 4:57 pm
Hell!
Yes, I’m worried, I must admit.
The upticks will swing it.
Crossie
August 30, 2023 4:58 pm
I make my predictions which begin with me predicting Saturday 14 October as polling day. …
For the national vote I predict 53% YES and 47% NO. I say four states will record affirmative majorities (New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania) and two states will reject the Voice – Queensland and Western Australia.
General Election: Trump vs. Biden
The Messenger/HarrisX Biden 45, Trump 44 Biden +1
Morning Consult Biden 43, Trump 42 Biden +1
That’s a win for Trump in the electoral college.
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 5:02 pm
Grey clouds (not heavy) above, rain tapping against the window seemingly more through bored obligation than as agents of a tempest’s ferocity, flashes of lightening, a bottle of Beaujolais shaving a couple of degrees off in the fridge, pissing off the balcony onto the umbrella’s of the huddling people who live in the unit above, and shoutingly searching for rhyming words of abuse – Shuckwits? Juckwits? Duckwits? Luckwits? All while drinking a Landbier.
FFS.
Wednesday isn’t the OT.
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 1:42 PM
Aug 30, 2023 1:41 PM
Bruce O’Nuke
Yep. And just wait until they start noticing all the whale deaths and put restrictions on wind construction to protect them. Suddenly the economics will ratchet another step worse.
I’m curious about the level of noise for submarines using sonar systems.
It seems the soundwaves affect whales. Will they enable Russian or Chinese Boomers to hide close inshore to the Continental US? A depressed trajectory missile with 3 nukes each – the Type 094 carries 12 for a total of 36 warheads – could take out a large percentage of the US retaliatory strike capability in far less time than an ICBM launch from the Chinese mainland.
“We need more people to go and explain the Voice to Parliament to our community, explain what it is and how it could help. We need to have it explained more to the grassroots level,” he said.
No.
If your kid doesn’t turn up at school and behave in a manner consistent with learning, then every fortnight, the parent will lose 10% of their sit down money. If the kid gets income from the State they can lose 10% as well.
Nothing else is working, so get bloody serious, Australia.
And I mean this for black and white, outback and city.
A bit of tough love will work, the current policies aren’t.
Winston – I don’t think subs are much threat to whales because using sonar is like putting up a giant sign saying HERE I AM in neon lights. Sub guys tend not to do that as it’s bad for their health.
Bruce you misunderstand my point.
If the Ecocrucifixes make enough noise to confuse whales, then the enemy missile subs will have a better chance of getting closer offshore without being detected because they will be shielded by the noise.
A noisy environment shields enemy subs from detection and USN hunter type subs will be operating in a degraded environment as they try to use sonar to detect the enemy.
Tom
August 30, 2023 5:08 pm
FFS. Sharri Markson is absent — again — from her 5pm show on Sky News. Her stand-in is Caleb Bond.
I would buy a used car from Caleb Bond.
Markson does great journalism when she’s at work. But she not at work often enough to build an audience.
John.
SOSUS is a sound detecting array. If the ambient noise levels double or whatever, the detection limit goes up.
The latest Chinese Missile submarine is noisier than its predecessor. The increase in noise from the offshore Ecocrucifixes negates that disadvantage. It makes it harder for the US subs to find them to destroy them.
Old Lefty
August 30, 2023 5:12 pm
The Tasmanian inquiry into abuse in government institutions has finished its report, with over 100 individuals to be referred to the police or child protection authorities:
Prof. Michael Tanchum
@michaeltanchum
·
1h
#BREAKING Military Coup in #Gabon
Military officers take control saying elections were flawed
Gabon hosts major French military presence
Photo: Macron and Gabon’s deposed Bongo
France loses another.
GreyRanga
August 30, 2023 5:17 pm
All the best for your BiL bons. Long and painful recovery.
Boambee John
August 30, 2023 5:18 pm
Vicki
Aug 30, 2023 3:48 PM
It’s how it’s worked for the great majority of the aborigines. See Bess and Jacinta Price for example. And our own BB.
Absolutely agree. Most of the problems espoused by the “Yes” camp don’t exist for urban Aborigines in the big cities. As I’ve said here before – we employed an Aboriginal manager years ago and he went on to work for a bigger company than ours. There are lots and lots of success stories – but the “Yes” lobby just doesn’t want to talk about those!
Also, the life expectancy data seems to be aggregated for all those claiming to be aboriginal. If the town camps and remote communities were separated out, the data would be much worse, but the attempted solutions could be concentrated where needed. The aggregation allows indigenous living assimilated lives to say “Poor fella me, I don’t live as long as you whities, gimmee munni”.
The Beer whisperer
August 30, 2023 5:22 pm
By hook or by crook, they do not intend to be defeated.
I doubt they’d cheat sufficiently to overcome the no vote, but the fact that Albo is going ahead despite terrible poll numbers suggests that he knows something we don’t.
Of course, he’s sufficiently stupid that they may just lose regardless.
Boambee John
August 30, 2023 5:23 pm
Aaron
Aug 30, 2023 4:05 PM
Considering the total devotion given to this referendum, where do Labor and the coalition of the woke go if it is defeated?
Unfortunately, we don’t seem to have any threats to leave the country yet, to encourage us to vote NO.
Not that they ever follow through on such threats. They are like kids threatening to hold their breath until they turn purple.
The Aboriginal tent embassy has hit out at the Indigenous voice on the day the prime minister announced when Australians will head to the polls for the referendum.
The longest-running Indigenous protest said a constitutionally enshrined advisory body would only become “another governing body to deal with the Aboriginal issue”.
Nioka Coe, the daughter of one of the four original protesters Billy Craigie, said people at the embassy had not been consulted on their voice.
“Our family connections, our nations, go back over 5000 generations in this country,” she told AAP.
“I don’t think we need to be added to a constitution that oppresses our people.
“We’ve been here for 50 years, we still maintain the site, nobody’s coming down here, no politician has come down here.”
Ms Coe said Indigenous senator Lidia Thorpe – also a ‘no’ campaigner and Aboriginal sovereignty advocate – was the only politician to occasionally visit the site, which sits just over a kilometre from Parliament House in Canberra.
She called the constitutional change a “tokenistic gesture” that would allow the government to say they were doing something to help Indigenous people.
“No discussion has happened with our people,” she said.
Ms Coe’s comments came as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese was in Adelaide to announce the voice referendum would be held on October 14.
Mr Albanese countered the accusations of a lack of consultation, saying the proposal had come from the Indigenous community.
“An invitation that comes directly from Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people themselves,” he said of the body.
“A proposal that thousands of elders and leaders in communities all over our country have worked on for well over a decade.
“A change supported by more than 80 per cent of Indigenous Australians.”
The prime minister said consultation would lead to real change.
“That’s what they (Indigenous Australians) are asking you to say ‘yes’ to at this referendum: the same opportunity for their children to make a good life for themselves.”
The Aboriginal tent embassy was set up on January 26, 1972 when Michael Anderson, Billy Craigie, Bertie Williams and Tony Coorey marched on Canberra to protest a land rights announcement by then-prime minister William McMahon.
Armed with a beach umbrella and three signs, the embassy was set up to pay homage to the Indigenous people never having ceded sovereignty.
A people, conquered so completely as the Australian Indigenous, don’t have any say about sovereignty.
Tough break for your BiL, Bons. Few things worse than severe burns. All the best.
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 5:26 pm
Markson does great journalism when she’s at work. But she not at work often enough to build an audience.
Maybe it is her journalism that gets in the way of her being always available for regular programs.
Just a thought.
The Beer whisperer
August 30, 2023 5:27 pm
Had another read of the proposed constitutional wording again, and realised that it is easily misunderstood.
What really matters is what room there is for recourse, and there is effectively zero.
It states quite clearly that parliament will determine the legislation for the voice. Which means, if the legislation states it will have veto powers, it will not be in violation because it says parliament makes the rules. As long as it gives an Aboriginal voice to parliament, it is IMMUNE from recourse.
I’ve been saying Albo will game the system, and the wording allows him to game it completely. Share widely.
Aaron
August 30, 2023 5:27 pm
“At a glance, I do believe Mackerras is Hi Alan-ing”.
It appears he wrote that article in April.
Before the swan dive in the polls.
If the “Yes” vote gets up, Australians deserve what they get.
Hectored into a treaty, a republic, no coal, no nukes and no hope.
John H.
August 30, 2023 5:28 pm
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 5:11 PM
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 4:34 PM
John H.
Aug 30, 2023 1:53 PM
NO. SOSUS.
John.
SOSUS is a sound detecting array. If the ambient noise levels double or whatever, the detection limit goes up.
The latest Chinese Missile submarine is noisier than its predecessor. The increase in noise from the offshore Ecocrucifixes negates that disadvantage. It makes it harder for the US subs to find them to destroy them.
The increased noise is inconsequential because over the last several decades the noise level has increased by multiples. Nonetheless I have seen interviews with sonar officers stating they can detect ships hundreds of kilometers away. It isn’t noise per se that is the issue, it is the frequencies.
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 30, 2023 5:29 pm
Hectored into a treaty, a republic, no coal, no nukes and no hope.
New taxes and levies to pay “Compensation” and “Reparations” “in perpetuity.”
Mother Lode
August 30, 2023 5:37 pm
The longest-running Indigenous protest
Truthfully asking here – not claiming true insight into the tent embassy (although surely it was old whitey who had tents, while Aborigines had lean-tos).
Isn’t the tent embassy sort of an inert symbolic gesture? They have never ‘done’ anything. Just, I dunno, tent-‘embassying’.)
The longest running protest would consist of getting up in the morning, pissing on the nearby toilets, grabbing some Brekky (no goannas, of course) talking about footy all day, having a barbecue and a few beers in the evening, and going to bed – isn’t that essentially it.
I have protested getting up at 6:00 more vigorously than this.
Aug 30, 2023 5:13 PM
Prof. Michael Tanchum
@michaeltanchum·
1h
#BREAKING Military Coup in #Gabon
Military officers take control saying elections were flawed
I doubt they’d cheat sufficiently to overcome the no vote, but the fact that Albo is going ahead despite terrible poll numbers suggests that he knows something we don’t.
So what are we going to do when we wake up and find the Voice passed on the barest of margins, and all the votes are counted except for the missing ones?
Is anyone running a book on it?
GreyRanga
August 30, 2023 5:47 pm
Luigi the Unbelievable aka PM Albanese is going to have a concert for the Yes Skreech. He’s getting a country singer, comedian and a blek guy to provide the vibe. Apparently none could attend. He was so disappointed. No Cash, no Hope and no bloody Wonder!
calli
August 30, 2023 5:51 pm
Lode, isn’t it a metaphor for the entire racial grievance industry?
Sit around, stand up, scratch your bum, look around, do nothing much, get paid, whinge a bit, rinse and repeat.
Pointless, useless, brain dead emotional blackmail.
Bons:
Your BiL – did they give a percentage for his burns?
I hope he got good immediate care…
I remember a burns bloke from my training in OT in ’83. He had been cornered by a fire and had to run through the flames to get out – about 30% burns to legs and torso.
Guess what they put on the 2nd degree burns?
First correct guess gets a Pink Elephant stamp.
Hence why I’m not particularly nice to monty when he pokes his engorged collective head through the Cat door.
Apologies for the imagery.
It makes offshore yacht racing look quite economical.
That Constructive Club thing that he joined – I had a quick squiz at their website. They ‘feel’ that news is too doom and gloom. They have a new idea about making j’ism ‘constructive’, which seems rather scary.
See, it is not even a matter of being positive. Stories about how 10,000,000 people crossed the street today and didn’t get run over.
Constructive to me strongly hints at something they wish to construct. Some teleological totem. Reporting stories in such a way that they facilitate that end.
Pom-pom waving for the state and other sickly progressive organs that plan to become the state.
Progressives do not object to ideas that are wrong. They have even found a cumbersome sophistry where there is no ‘wrong’ or ‘right’, no definitive ‘truth’.
But they do object to ideas as being ‘unhelpful’ or ‘not constructive’ – not advancing that to which they want to advance.
Whether sTan understands all that, or whether he just senses he will be able there to peddle his bullshit about poisoned waterholes and smallpoxy blankets and acting like flora and fauna and whatever other erroneous grievance he has attached himself to in order to consolidate for himself a special place in Australia, is anybody’s guess. Frankly I reckon he is too damned stupid.
But, perhaps my opinion is not construcive.
Ha!
The ghost of failures past has rattled his chains and spoken.
Albo will now be shitting himself.
Uptick.
“Hence why I’m not particularly nice to monty when he pokes his engorged collective head through the Cat door.”
Agree. And any goodwill he had here was evaporated/annihilated/extinguished when back in March of this year he not only supported violence against women, he laughed at it.
Liberal arts college’s new academic centre, library and halls blessed
By Marilyn Rodrigues – August 30, 2023
Excerpts:
Based in Toongabbie in Sydney’s west, the liberal arts college celebrated the occasion with leaders from the Catholic Church, education, politics and business along with college benefactors, current students, staff and alumni, with the keynote address given by former deputy prime minister John Anderson.
In his address Mr Anderson said the new Campion development was a significant moment not only for the college but for the nation, which is experiencing a “civilizational moment” marked by dangerous social and economic pressures, growing division and distrust, along with an abandonment of the Judeo-Christian foundations of the West.
“We are losing our confidence in the very institutions of freedom, and worse than that, the ideas, beliefs and values that underpin them,” Mr Anderson said.
College president Dr Paul Morrissey said it was also an occasion to honour “two great Australians”—the late Fr Stenhouse who was formerly a trustee of the college, and mining magnate and philanthropist Mrs Gina Rinehart after whom the new library is named.
Aboriginals?
Go to the naughty corner and reflect on your recalcitrance, ML.
Kiss of death Turnbull.
Snowy 2.0 should be enough to silence him.
Absolute arsehole of a human.
Waffleworth does not exactly exude be on me next time and have you reaching for your wallet.
Turnbull and Bishop.
Winning.
On China from an Australian perspective
Having come across an advert for the Chinese version of Amazon and trying them out I have to admit they are good .. luv they have all the nick-nacs you hear about but never seem to see around .. amazing 1st time user discounts and guaranteed delivery date (a store credit if late) …
https://www.temu.com/au
You would think so. I have my doubts. Often a problem with smartest men in the room.
Obviously millions and millions of dollars and a non constitutionally enshrined aboriginal voice wasnt enough
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Waynead Wolmby, 22, wants the Voice to get more Aboriginal children into education
An emerging leader and education worker from Aurukun has said what the Voice to Parliament needs to do for his community as he describes the pains of growing up Aboriginal in Australia.
What did he call Kate Jones?
That followed alleged financial “irregularities” at Aurukun, which are being examined by the state auditor general but which Pearson has attributed to poor book-keeping by Queensland education staff.
“Looks like the Chinese & Indian communities No votes are big enough to knock it on the head.”
Unsurprising. Add in to that spicy mix the middle eastern communities.
Yep! .. very little apart from a few NO wall posters from Australia Freedom ..
Nothing whatsoever from the YES side .. the issue doesn’t even com up in conversation(s) out here in Fairfield ……..
Sorry that cairns post story is completely paywalled
The Clowns of Doom have spoken! 😀
h/t Blair
Julie was a loyal deputy. And a loyal deputy. And a loyal deputy. She was more loyal than your average Golden Retriever.
Snowy 2.0 story featuring Prof Bruce Mountain speaking truth to idiots.
Bruce is a key part of our team to scrap these stupid 500kv transmission line projects.
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/am/snowy-hydro-project-price-soars/102792046
“Absolute arsehole of a human.”
Generous, I regard him as worse than Rudd. Rudd doesn’t trash his party the way Turnbull trashes the Liberals.
I note that he was at Kings Cross/Potts Point this morning spruiking YES. That’s an easy area to spruik in, it’s SAFE. Poor old Mal and Luce, they haven’t changed, not that I thought they would. Just like during the 2016 election campaign when they couldn’t be bothered venturing out to the western and south-western suburbs to campaign in shopping malls, God forbid that either of them would be seen among the great unwashed! Their shtick back in 2016 was to be filmed and photographed boarding a train at Edgecliff and then getting off the train at Martin Place, two stops later. Maggot and his cane toad of a wife are such hypocrites, but remember, the Liberal Party of Australia made this maggot PM in September 2015, and it’s been downhill for the party ever since.
Waffleworth was certainly more born to rule than Fraser’s noblesse oblige. Both were insufferable wankers.
Do you work at Balti part time?
*scrunches eyes, balls little fists, and shouts like a toddler* “Not helpful!”
(But true. Thus I vindicate my argument! If not my orthography!)
Snowy 2.0 should be enough to silence him.
More chance of stopping a pig dog on the hunt. The smell of easy money is irresistible.
Alas, it matters not how big the concrete shoes are that we fit the laughably affected poseur with. I fear Snowy 2.0 will never pump up enough water to submerge his silly constipation-faced bobble-head.
Every InVoice Postal Vote will at times be completely outside of any scrutineering. Computershare, the share registry services company, which is well known for being far left, will have custody of all postal votes from the time they leave the Auspost system, until the time the AEC starts to count.
No-one is checking what goes on in the Computershare warehouse.
If you think NO will win based on the polls, you are sadly optimistic.
It’s not who votes that counts, it’s not even who counts the votes, it’s who HANDLES the votes.
You’re suckers if you think this isn’t another rort, by the masters of rorting.
I heard the other day that Utkin may have still been active GRU.
Starts with the parents – they may have to give up all night card parties, and buying “coke and chips” for breakfast, from the local roadhouse. Oh, and “sorry business.”
It’s certainly proven to be an acute challenge to many peoples’ sanity.
Nice to see Waffles Turnbuckle magnanimously taking on the role of reverse indicator, again.
“No-one is checking what goes on in the Computershare warehouse.
If you think NO will win based on the polls, you are sadly optimistic.
It’s not who votes that counts, it’s not even who counts the votes, it’s who HANDLES the votes.
You’re suckers if you think this isn’t another rort, by the masters of rorting.
Hold on a moment. I’m not saying our electoral system is perfect but I am not as cynical as this. We are not the USA.
John Stossel:
Progressives attack capitalism because it lets some become very rich while others stay poor.
Yaron Brook: In Defense of Capitalism
It is not and it will never be.
Say hello to a 6% inflation “target”.
We may as well fully dollarise at this point and abolish the RBA.
Panama dollarised and has an excellent record of macroeconomic indicators. Stable, very low inflation and no risk of banking moral hazard. It’s free riding off the US but it is also otherwise 100% market based.
Shatterzz I have been buying stuff off Temu for a while now. I brought a router table with fence and slide that I converted to a miniature table saw. I couldn’t have brought the piece of aluminium for the table for the same price as the finished article. The quality was top notch. I think now that I’ve brought quite a few things off them the prices have gone up. Wouldn’t be surprised if they have a highest price structure after they’ve got you hooked.
Turnbull did tap the breaks on Rudd & Conroy’s NBN.
So he wasn’t entirely terrible.
Only mostly terrible.
NZ as a 7Th State.
Why this distraction at this time?
Rhetorical question of course…
The WA Health Minister Amber-Jade Sanderson has accused a pro-life Christian lobby group of “spreading misinformation” in the abortion law debate, claiming “There is no such thing as a failed abortion. There is no such thing as babies born alive after an abortion”, calling claims to the contrary a scare campaign.
In fact, the minister’s claim contradicts evidence from VIC & QLD, where hundreds of babies have survived abortion, only to be left to die without medical assistance. In WA itself there are 31 documented cases of babies surviving abortions in the period 1998-2021.
The lobby group is petitioning for an amendment to the proposed Bill that would require medical assistance to be given to babies who survive late term abortions equivalent to that which prematurely born babies receive.
ZK2A Mr Wolmby has done ok. He didn’t need a Voice to do what he’s done. Anyone from Aurukun can do the same thing. Poor choices are not someone elses problems.
Yaron Brook aint great.
Dave Smith & Michael Malice have referred to him as a William Buckley type.
That is, the manufactured opposition that wants to fail but also wants to be invited to all the right dinner parties.
If you think the AEC is a-political, you are wrong. You already saw the AEC’s Tick vs Cross plan to disregard illiterate no-voters.
Getting Computershare to do the dirty work (unbidden, but with a nudge and a wink from the AEC) gives the AEC plausible deniability.
The Australian Left learns quickly from the USA. Always have. They send people over on fact finding tours to learn the latest techniques. They know how to do this.
All the easy, up front munni had been harvested and all that was left was to actually…deliver?
It might be the same pattern as the Commonwealth Games, Snowy 2.0, roads, tunnels and railways to nowhere.
The Light Rail is an example of how politically dangerous it is to actually build something.
A Yes activist in action.
Police charge man who allegedly trashed South Australian Liberal MP Tony Pasin’s office and called No campaign ‘bullsh*t’ (Sky News, 30 Aug)
We can trust the Voice since they have the righteous high ground. How dare we suspicious people be suspicious of their altruistic motives!
I really liked this story — https://www.theepochtimes.com/bright/pregnant-nurse-with-terminal-cancer-refuses-chemo-and-abortion-lives-on-to-give-birth-seeks-alternative-treatment-5438980.
Faith not fear is what sustains the human spirit. God bless her.
The real slush money with the NBN would have been made with the 20 year plus servicing contracts.
Which Turd effectively ended by changing the technology mix.
Could you imagine trying to check some union doing the maintenance work on the NBN between Bourke & Cobar under the Rudd/Conroy model?
Why is Sky being so dramatic about this? It’s not an amazing feat like some magic trick where Albo will pull a date out of an empty top-hat.
Why is Sky treating Liugi the Unbelievable like an illusionist… oh.
Why do animals of different species pair up in seeming friendships, what’s in it for them? This long video gives some excellent examples of unusual pairings and investigates why they occur, so better than just showing the examples as some others do. The video calls in animal behaviourists to explain some of the sequences shown by looking at redirected instincts due to early attachment deprivation, isolation, boredom when food is plentiful, maternal thwarting and sexual frustration. Many of these situations are found in animals who live with or near humans (an intervening variable), but not always. Play and nurturing instincts are highly explanatory for most instances. It ends with a curious question – can animals keep other animals as ‘pets’ for amusement, offering food and care? Some cases in primates give rise to speculation re this. Fun to watch a swimming orangutan swim, let alone see him sharing his swim with his ‘pet’ dog that he feeds regularly. Stick with it all the way through to see this.
It shouldn’t surprise us if animals go interspecies in emotional seeking. We as humans do it all the time, often for many of the same reasons.
Quite
The NBN under Rudd/Conroy was like HIV/AIDS.
Under Abbott/Turnbull onwards it turned into a case of Herpes.
We are getting worried we may not be able to vote in the Referendum. We leave Australia on 19th September for Italy, before polls open for absentee votes.
Wot to do?
There must be some way round this. Will we have to find an Australian Consul somewhere?
1. The PU is a cost centre.
2. NZ is assaulting civil rights.
3. Hello compassionate conservatism.
4. Nuke up.
5. Use the outlands as forward bases for the homeland against an increasingly aggressive China.
I’m semi-serious.
Pogria:
Here’s my contribution:
Goldfish
The striped one is called Dennis.
Actually they’re all called Dennis.
Boambee John:
Cancel all public holidays.
Silly climate stories.
Want to fight climate change? Don’t poach gorillas (Phys.org, 29 Aug)
Extreme weather events linked to increased child marriage (Phys.org, 29 Aug)
Sushi-loving Japan scrambles to save its fishing industry as oceans heat up (Phys.org, 29 Aug)
There you go. Gorillas are Gaia’s holy druids or something. Bad weather causes pedos, and Chinese overfishing has nothing at all to do with Japanese fishing succes, or lack of it.
CO2 does everything.
Turnbull and Bishop.
Winning.
TurnBullShit and the Stick Insect. Whining more like……………………….
Malcolm Turnbull should be horsewhipped through the streets….
What the hell is going on here?
The only thing separating these two babies is a woman’s whim.
Wicked!
A terrific lunch that extended into a longer afternoon tea yesterday with the woman, now nearly fifty, whom I used to include in my family a lot when she was child. She still regards my two older boys as surrogate brothers, which makes me a sort of extra mum. I have only seen her once since she was a young adult heading for America to get married, and that was briefly twenty-two years ago now, where she recalled our ‘big house’ at that time. We’ve kept in touch only by Christmas cards.
I must say that she was and still is a bright, bubbly and very forthright grown woman who is a delight to have as a surrogate daughter, long away and now returned. We discovered that we had tremendous closeness still, reminiscing the past and also as she filled me in on her American life with her husband and two teenage children in Washington State. The kids were impressive, polite, exemplary in schooling, one in a STEM school and the other in a BioMed school (hot-housing them for entry to a major College). They don’t ‘do’ social media they tell me, only youtube. Their mum is an example to them of determination and application. She’s moved career from financial advising to what we’d call ‘supply’ teaching. When I asked how she’d made the move, she said airily that she’d enrolled in a special interest in-depth course in … wait for it … calculus, and the teaching followed from there. I loved it, she enthused. Well, her father (an ex-Cambridge man who went troppo in FNQ ages ago) was always a maths brain, so I guess that figures.
We didn’t ‘do’ politics yesterday, best not to, although we made a few pointed Aussie remarks about ‘bludging’ dominating Australian Labor now. Her husband works in top levels of ‘Human Services’ and totally agreed with us. You won’t believe the things he’s seen, she adds, free everything including huge TV’s, we are all so sick of it.
Democrats by vote we suspect, an affiliation unlikely to change, but definitely rather like my Southern Democrat cousin in Louisiana – totally fed up with the Democrat Party as it is at present. They will likely not turn out to vote if it’s Biden, observes Hairy to me after driving them all back to their AirBnB in Bondi.
This is interesting.
Voting no on The Voice will make Black Baby Jesus cry.
h/t Rod Flanders.
Iron ore helps us pay!
The mal-dentated spittle-flecked gnome has announced the referendum date..
Yes Cats, you first heard it here almost five weeks ago, however, AnAl generously told the Australian people only today.
If that doesn’t scream contempt from our politicians, I don’t know what does.
Gilas, you were right again, take a bow.
I think I’ll continue to wallow in my sad optimism.
A battle of the polls.
New polling has revealed that Tasmanians have joined their mainland counterparts in WA and Queensland in turning against the Voice to Parliament referendum, in what “no” campaign sources are calling a “game changer”.
It comes as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese travels to Adelaide to formally announce the date of the referendum vote, widely expected to be October 14.
The poll, conducted by Insightfully for the Institute of Public Affairs, asked 1156 Tasmanian voters how they intended to vote on the referendum, using the official question that will be put to Australians on ballot papers.
The polling found that a majority 53 per cent of Tasmanians intended to vote “no”, with just 42 per cent indicating a likely “yes” vote.
Five per cent were undecided.
Meanwhile, a poll of 605 South Australians conducted by the Australia Institute has found that 43 per cent of voters in that state intended to vote “yes” versus 39 per cent who said “no”.
About 18 per cent said they were undecided, but when asked which way they were leaning those voters split exactly in the middle to deliver Yes a narrow 52-48 lead.
Earlier this month Newspoll analysis found that Queensland and WA were also firmly in the “no” camp, meaning that if the numbers held through polling day the “yes” campaign would need to secure Tasmania as well as South Australia, Victoria, and NSW in order to change the constitution.
The same polling showed Victoria tied at 44-44 and NSW slightly in the “yes” camp” at 45-42.
That analysis also showed that South Australia was firmly in the “yes” camp at 48-42, though many observers have said that it would be a key battleground state.
Apply for a postal vote as soon as writs are issued.
You ungenerous bounder. It should be at least a million upticks.
132andB
Please, it’s not that sort of blog.
That’s the takaway from the article.
Everything is the responsibility of families that no amount of taxpayer money (as Noel Pearson has already amply demonstrated) can fix.
Cassie Of Sydney:
Apart from not thinking at all, they were hoping for a position in the Uniparty. Managerialism is their credo and they want in.
Dot
Aug 30, 2023 12:54 PM
Gilas, you were right again, take a bow.
Unnecessary, stupid comment, Dot.
You can do better, as you usually do.
What’s the difference between accepting a, most likely free Christian run, private boarding school place and getting an education via a mission?
If you think the AEC is a-political, you are wrong. You already saw the AEC’s Tick vs Cross plan to disregard illiterate no-voters.
Some years ago I attended a discussion in rooms in the NSW Parliament regarding the integrity of the voting system in Australia. Both Mark Latham and election guru Malcolm Mackerras (as I recall) addressed the audience, giving us the benefit of their personal experience. I think we were all astounded to be told about the flaws and potential flaws in vote counting.
I also recall an instance in WA years ago when bundles of voting papers went astray. Cant recall ever hearing the reason or what became of them.
Managerialism is their credo and they want in.
And they are not even good at that.
I’d’ve preferred July 14 to Oct 14, but that’s just me.
One can never have too many tumbrils.
Here we go (Newscorp):
And:
Which is the exact reason this shitfight is tanking.
Multi-funktion polis anyone? — I’d left out the ‘n’ in a previous comment which remains in moderation. Sorry Doverlord
Okay, no more complimenting other commenters.
Every InVoice Postal Vote will at times be completely outside of any scrutineering.
There should be no postal voting unless specific proof of inability to attend is provided .. If the VOICE & changing the Constitution is sooo, bloody, important to Luigi he should legislate in-person voting compulsory!
He said he hoped a potential Voice to Parliament, which he said he would vote for, would get more Indigenous children to participate in schooling.
There s nothing stopping them going to school now so will a VOICE affect change?
Why is it these interviwers never ask the “simple” questions when this sort of spiel is trundled out .. FFS!
Bruce O’Nuke
I’m curious about the level of noise for submarines using sonar systems.
It seems the soundwaves affect whales. Will they enable Russian or Chinese Boomers to hide close inshore to the Continental US? A depressed trajectory missile with 3 nukes each – the Type 094 carries 12 for a total of 36 warheads – could take out a large percentage of the US retaliatory strike capability in far less time than an ICBM launch from the Chinese mainland.
How?
Now that the date’s been announced, minds can focus.
Please consider volunteering here.
If the racists succeed, one can at least know that he/she tried to derail this abortion.
Living in country WA often gives a pretty narrow outlook on matters of national importance like how the referendum is trending.
Locals here go feral when the Voice is mentioned, particularly as many were liable to be adversely affected with the WA .gov stupid aboriginal heritage laws. No “Yes” posters or shirts to be seen anywhere. (The Dorpers are totally disinterested despite their blak heads and mixed genealogy).
However, it appears that city folks, especially in the SE corner of Oz, are trending in favour of “Yes”. I would be interested to hear the views of city Cats as to whether this is true or a media/ALP beat up, and why the disparity between city and country voters.
Over to youse.
Winston – I don’t think subs are much threat to whales because using sonar is like putting up a giant sign saying HERE I AM in neon lights. Sub guys tend not to do that as it’s bad for their health. Although if Vlad lets a Poseidon off opposite Manhattan that would be bad for whales. You just might see one impaled on the Empire State Building spire the tsunami will be so tall.
NO. SOSUS.
Mein Gott.
Investigations into alleged sexual assaults by Till Lindemann, frontman with German metal superstars Rammstein, have been dropped by prosecutors.
Berlin state prosecutors said investigations, which began in June, “did not provide any evidence”, and that they were unable to substantiate allegations as law enforcement agencies had not received direct testimony from the accusers.
Hahahahaha.
If law enforcement never received testimony, then why were prosecutors investigating it?
Jealousy. Heavy metal bands get more hot groupies than state prosecutors do.
Rosie,
If looking for info on Noel Pearson and the Arakun school finances saga then a Google search should bring up two fairly detailed Guardian newspaper articles from that time. I found them a couple of weeks ago. Not an indicator of good governance.
WTF is Marles doing?
So much for zero emissions.
Demand the details.
The Australian has PM’S full speech. At rate comments are being made could break a record. I predict going to be well over 2,000.
Not in favour to say the least.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
You’re funny, Luigi.
Schadenfreude that the Greens are onto him.
Greens ask Coalition for assistance questioning Deputy PM on $3.6m private flights (Sky News, 30 Aug)
What’s worse? Spending $3.6 million to save an hour taxi ride or insulting Gaia with awful CO2 emissions?
Sorry shatterezz- I’ll be sending a postal vote with a big ferking NO on it. Attending the poll place won’t happen.
Notwithstanding some transport and mobility issues I am concerned that I may be arrested for punching out some ferkwit who tries to shove a yes pamphlet down my throat.
Timing. It’s always so important.
The day after the massive pay rise is announced for our poliscumbags, comes the announcement of the Voice referendum date and wall to wall media orgy of Yes/No propaganda.
Pay rise? What pay rise?
‘65,000 years of history’: PM sparks thunderous applause at ‘Yes’ launch.
Basically one day repeated for 65,000 years.
No clothes, shelter, domesticated animals, wheel etc.
Utopia. Unless you had toothache, a boil, infected cut or were female, infant or in some other way weak or suffering some malady.
To call what went on here for however long a “culture” is an insult to cultures everyway.
65,000 years (allegedly) of pre-history, he means.
Pre-history means before written records; in all that time aboriginal society had absolutely no writing.
In the Middle and Near East writing, and therefore history, goes back 5,000 years.
Pedro: re your query about how the referendum is travelling in the SE of this increasingly stupid country: I live in Kooyong and at the last federal election pretty much every fifth house had a Teal poster stuck to the front fence. For the moment at least, there is just one Yes poster on a front fence every three or four blocks.
The other morning Yes campaigners at the train station were grinning inanely and wishing everyone a good day while trying to hand people pamphlets. Of the ten or so people who walked past when I was going up the ramp, only one took a pamphlet
This all might change of course, but the Yes campaign around here feels very low energy.
‘65,000 years of history’: PM sparks thunderous applause at ‘Yes’ launch.
65,000 years (allegedly) of pre-history, he means.
“Yes” voters seem to have little grasp of history, prehistory or anthropology. They are driven solely by “the vibe” & emotion.
Albo’s in Radelaide for a reason. Things aren’t going well.
Utopia. Unless you had infringed one of the endless “tabus” and were subject to savage, brutal tribal punishment, and were left behind to die when the tribe moved on.
Can I get a postal vote before 19th September?
I didn’t think I could.
An excellent 8-minute soliloquy on why Communism is the same, and yet far worse than Fascism.. by Konstantin Kisin.
Haven’t seen a ‘yes’ poster anywhere around Rose Bay or Vaucluse, so far anyway.
This is Teal Central.
Noel Pearson and the Arakun school
I know a husband and wife who taught at Arukan many years ago. Both were Christian evangelists whose intentions were good. But, like many others, they encountered the realities of Aboriginal community life, and it was not pretty. They returned to city life pretty disillusioned.
On the other hand, everything that I have read of the Cape York Hope School that Pearson set up, is encouraging. He was very well educated himself by Methodist clergy (as I recall) & he is a great advocate of “direct learning & teaching” which, fundamentally, is good “old school” teaching of reading/writing/and arithmetic by the methods of repetition and practice that were so successful in times past.
Aaron, I am constantly amazed by the adulation of the most primitive way of life by the people most deeply steeped in modernity and who cannot imagine not checking their phone even for five minutes.
Of course there was an aboriginal culture.
We gave them writing, clothing, houses, medicine and electricity. They gave us the rainbow serpent, the boomerang and the didgeridoo. Be appropriately grateful.
Incidentally, I wish someone would approach me in the street with “Yes” propaganda. I am “ready and waiting”.
They want to give us Makarrata.
Their words.
The Paywallian has a good story on the mathematics and history of referenda. This one’s doomed.
They gave us the rainbow serpent, the boomerang and the didgeridoo. Be appropriately grateful.
Ha ha! Most of you know of my interest in Aboriginal artefacts and the relevance to our own property. I have to tell you that I indeed have 2 very old boomerangs (dating to early 20th century), a beautiful didg I bought in Mataranka in NT (colours of red/ochre & black of the desert), and a magnificent, old bark painting of the rainbow serpent which I have mounted in a perspex case). I treasure them all.
Our valley is sometimes called the land of the rainbow, since a magnificent rainbow forms from time to time right across our farm in our part of the valley. I think it may partly explain why we have a bora ring. The whole valley forms a gigantic stone bora ring to a large extent, since it is an enclosed sandstone canyon. It is quite breathtaking and most likely a spiritual place.
Everything of consequence in Australian history has been launched in Adelaide.
Thanks Gilas.
That’s a keeper.
Video proof, Cass, or it never happened.
I thought Tenterfield was the launching pad for Federation.
Lizzie, you and Hairy must vote.
Also, whilst I think I managed to scare off some spruikers on Oxford Street, I will monitor closely and carefully their activities over the next few weeks. I look forward to not being nice to these virtue signalling peddlers of lies, lies and lies, in fact I look forward to being very unpleasant.
But as Lizzie said above, it’s pretty quiet around Wentworth, unlike what it was like before May 2022 when the electorate was awash with the Teal posters and Teal cult adherents (mainly female) running all over the place. There are one or two businesses on Oxford Street with “YES” posters on the front, these two businesses also spruiked for Allegra prior to the federal election last year, and this will make you roar with laughter, these two businesses are loudly complaining about the proposed cycle path planned for Oxford Street, which will impact them directly. HA HA HA. You know, I have zero sympathy for the hypocrites. I feel like walking in to each business and telling them that since they’re so opposed to the cycle path, then we must consult the local Indigenous elders of Paddington, Woollahra, Centennial Park, Bondi Junction etc, and if the elders say “YES”, who are the business owners to complain? It’ll be the Voice in action.
I’m sorry, and I’m sure some here will think I am not being very nice but given these businesses support for da Voice, when the cycle path is being constructed, causing them to lose businesses, I will laugh out loud because people like that can just F*CK off.
Vicki, please take this with amusement, but have you though of informing your offspring that you are bequeathing your beautiful part of the valley to the original indigenous inhabitants?
In canbra no yes advertising that I’ve noticed. Done and dusted yes, not that it makes any difference in the territories.
Okay.
1. The didgeridoo is not its actual name. That was the name given it by bastard whitey when they heard it, and tried to approximate what it sounded like;
2. It is relatively new – only about 1000 years old;
3. It is not traditionally used by 300-odd nations. Its home is a very small group of Yolgnu* tribes in north-east Arnhem Land, and nowhere else. Mataranka, an hour south of Katherine is a very long way indeed from where this thing actually comes from;
4. Actual instruments are slightly conical, unlike the cylindrical ones used at WTC etc across this wide brown land and in Yothu Yindi clips;
4. Its actual name, according to the locals is a yidaki; and
5. They are not the frontmen but very much backup for death ceremonies and the like, where previously alive people were ‘sung away’ – a practice also nonexistent anywhere else; and
6. They are painted just for tourists.
*Spiritual home of the late Mr Yunupingu – generational thief, helicopter-owner, condemner of his own extended tribe to endemic poverty and thus revered by the current Prime Minister.
While most who have thought about the subject agree, the fat fascist fool begs to differ.
Quite rightly. Everything human beings get up to and produce is worth keeping and recording.
A few centuries ago, Europeans came here and made contact with people who had been isolated for millennia. Nine months later they started producing babies together, and now there are scads of people with mixed ancestry. What this establishes is that there is only one race, the human race, and that the differences are very superficial and not important.
There are profound cultural differences, but cultures interact and change; people learn off each other. Sensible people copy the good ideas wherever they find them. If little green men from outer space come here with superior science and technology, anyone with a grain of sense will try to learn from them. That will destroy our existing culture, and we’ll develop a better one. That’s how it works.
It’s how it’s worked for the great majority of the aborigines. See Bess and Jacinta Price for example. And our own BB.
Artur Rehi and Times Radio are making some huge claims about Ukrainian gains.
I don’t buy Ukraine blitzing through the other lines of defence if the first one is breached, nor do I think Russians will surrender en masse.
Prisoners of war don’t necessarily tell the truth. “We’re starving” can just mean “give us food, we’re hungry”.
Apparently, Putin is going to pave over the Wagner graveyard. No idea if it is real or just propaganda.
Not quite 100% true. In certain places they had proto-writing via tree carvings but trees don’t last forever so it’s impossible to know how long the practice existed, as it also wasn’t widespread. As it was a lost art until recently, they can’t really tell what their meanings were. I met a guy who had revived it but they’re ornamental only as there’s no known meaning, but I haven’t read the full article.
Yeah, I’m lazy like that.
Yep, they did. For those that disagree … go watch a gardening channel.
Alex Jones Says Stew Peters Was Right About Directed Energy Weapons in Maui
It’s how it’s worked for the great majority of the aborigines. See Bess and Jacinta Price for example. And our own BB.
Absolutely agree. Most of the problems espoused by the “Yes” camp don’t exist for urban Aborigines in the big cities. As I’ve said here before – we employed an Aboriginal manager years ago and he went on to work for a bigger company than ours. There are lots and lots of success stories – but the “Yes” lobby just doesn’t want to talk about those!
I’m on the last chapter now of Rowan Dean’s 2017 novel, reprinted 2018, on two ‘lads behaving badly’, very badly, as they ace the money and girls (supposedly) in the heady ‘drunk then hungover’ lunching-on-the-client world of UK advertising, harking back to the soaked-in-it days of the 80’s. It definitely rings true to things I lived through as a young copywriter in the sixties in the Australian context, for the mass media was where it was at, cranking up the markets in those days of alcohol-fuelled excess, with ‘kiddie creatives’ moving into line to take over calling the shots as paired couples, one Art Director to One Copywriter, married till a baby (the ‘idea’) was born as an ad and raised to be an award-winning offspring.
Titled ‘Corkscrewed’, Rowan Dean’s book took a time warp look back to that golden era when it was published only six years ago, and now it reads like a report from the far side of the moon, an anthropological tour of somewhere else, definitely no longer of this contemporary world. A tightening of the thumbscrews is now doubling every two years. There’s no corkscrewed any more. So much has changed, even the title. We’re screw topped these days in the media industry and strictly after hours for it. Drunks are shunted with embarrassment to AA fervently vowing never again to place an unwanted hand on a chestfeeder’s knee, let alone ever deliver a funny ad to a Creative Director who now waves the ‘rules of woke’ around with an abandon that can no longer be called gay.
You can still get a wet knickers full of laughs at some of Rowan’s scenarios though.
In certain places they had proto-writing via tree carvings but trees don’t last forever so it’s impossible to know how long the practice existed, as it also wasn’t widespread.
Quite true. While we have stone implements etc as evidence of occupation, and the ring itself, I have never been able to locate tree engravings, even on very old logs that have fallen in the area. Mind you, many early settlers carved them out of trees to bring back to the homestead, and others simply destroyed them. But largely, it is the effects of time.
Radelaide, it’s not just pink Stubbies and throwing pooftas in the Torrens.
My BIL immolated himself in the tractor shed this morning.
His sight has survived but he is badly burned. They have him asleep but not in a coma.
He is going to be beside himself when he wakes up and realises that after 50 years around farm machinery he did something idiotic.
The Greatest Threat is Always from Within
QUESTION: Do you think the Neocons are more dangerous than Russia or China?
DK
ANSWER: Absolutely. In Chess, you face your adversary. You know your enemy, and you try to unravel his strategy. In geopolitics, the greatest danger is always the enemy within your own ranks. For a handful of silver, it was a Greek who showed the path for the Persians to come behind the Spartans through the hills and annihilate them from behind in the Battle of Thermopylae. Judas also betrayed Jesus for a handful of silver. History has proven countless times that your greatest enemy always emerges from within.
Any politician who now supports Ukraine and spouts out the BS we will be next is unworthy of any public office, including sanitation cleaning toilets. They have NO place in politics and should NEVER be allowed to take the White House, regardless of their party. The Neocons have created endless wars on their own theory that democracy should dominate the world. Their version of democracy is really tyranny, for we have no right to vote on taxes, vaccines, lockdowns, or war. We are drafted with not right to vote and ordered to die on a foreign battlefield because of their theory in which we have no say whatsoever.”
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/the-greatest-threat-is-always-from-within/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS
<em>Its home is a very small group of Yolgnu* tribes in north-east Arnhem Land
KD, you are right about the strict origin of the didg – although it was found in a lot of places throughout Arnhem Land. Yes – of course – my Mataranka didg (which is artistically beautiful) was made by recent hands.
But you can say the same about the market in Aboriginal art. Geoffrey Bardon’s encouragement of the Papunya school, derived from the temporary sand art, developed a very recent expression of Aboriginal relationship with the land.
Sorry to hear that bons. I hope he pulls through okay.
It’s a lesson that I’ll put in the memory for our place and as my old dad used to say “Get the fright before the accident not after”.
Speaking of the gardening channel, my Mexican lily is about to flower for the first time.
I feel like Mr Wilson in Dennis the Menace.
Click on the photo for a better view. It looks like something Alien would grow in her greenhouse.
That’s terrible bons. Poor man. We all do dumb things around machinery.
Considering the total devotion given to this referendum, where do Labor and the coalition of the woke go if it is defeated?
“bons
Aug 30, 2023 3:53 PM”
Thoughts and prayers.
Well said!
Aaron, I imagine they’ll go straight to parliament and legislate it anyway.
They no longer represent us. And those who do are sidelined.
One of the funny distinctions between fascism (essentially a synonym for Nazi Germany) and Communism (Russia and China, and for God’s sake don’t mention North Korea) is that Fascism is only known from a mere decade and a half, but Communism over six decades (for the Russian model). And China? Well over the last 30 years or so they have surreptitiously morphed into state-run capitalism. But prior to that it was a natural development of the Communism it began with.
And while Communism in its full putrid flower limped along from times of war into times of peace, Fascism (as in Nazism) did not have a chance to form a ‘peace’ form.
It is funny that a central tenet of communism, in all its variants, is that it had teased from history the secret unseen workings of societies, and was uniquely able to predict future developments, and smoothly prepare the way toward the ultimate denouement without the pointless detours through barren mirages…such as we enjoy now.
This is the reason a spotty Critical Sociology student who lasted a whole week at Maccas is able to forewarn Elon Musk that his entire enterprise is going to fail.
There was a novel and movie years ago called (I think) Fatherland. It was set in a world where the Germans had won WWII. While in war the SS was filled with fanatics, afterward standards were relaxed, and there were even people of a more ponderous disposition. With all the most horrific objectives achieved there were not so many horrors left: persecuting Jews is a vacuous proposition when there are no Jews left, but that is hardly a justification.
I suspect Nazism, if it had survived into peace time, would be as indistinguishable from the Russian peacetime as the Russian wartime was indistinguishable from Nazi wartime. And this would be because European state totalitarianism is uniform.
Compare that to Chinese Communism. Russian Communism and Nazi Fascism would be almost impossible to tell apart, while Chinese Communism would seem alien by comparison.
WORD WALL ALERT!!!
bons,
send him our best. What a bugger. I hope the burns aren’t too deep.
Something in that soliloquy that I do take issue with – the point that the Fascists did not steal and redistribute private property like the Communists.
We know that isn’t true – in one very specific and horrifying incidence they did just that. Families are still trying to recover their property to this day.
A famous example.
Ahaha! I was enjoying poor Mr Wilson and Dennis (who bears an uncanny resemblance to my youngest grandson).
I meant to link this, of course.
Vicki
Aug 30, 2023 1:14 PM
This guy?
https://www.malcolmmackerras.com/articles/2023/4/26/the-voice-referendum-will-be-carried
As well as carved trees, Aboriginal tribes also had Tjuringas or Churungas, which were message sticks. The were small pieces of wood, often shaped into a rounded point at each end, and could contained intricate carvings similar in style to those found on the trees. I used to have one, given to me in Western Australia; it was polished black wood, and the carving was exceptional. It was obviously of sacred significance and could also serve as a tribal identifier. Other sorts of message sticks used simple symbols, were sparse and roughly worked and carried simple messages. I suspect they were mainly a product of European influence, an old idea given new possibilities. The main issue with these ancient sticks is that they were highly sacred objects. Seeing them as some form of ancient written communication is probably mostly wrong.
All the best to your brother and you bons.
For the national vote I predict 53% YES and 47% NO. I say four states will record affirmative majorities (New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania) and two states will reject the Voice – Queensland and Western Australia.
…
Hell!
5 of my comments rejected from The Australian today. protection racket continues.
I only mentioned: Albo, The miserable ghost, Chalmers, the vice and dickhead Victorian colleagues.
At a glance, I do believe Mackerras is Hi Alan-ing.
It’s a neat form of nudging. It requires belief, firstly, that he has always voted “no”…but not this time.
That guy is awesome. Fantastic reads and says it like it is and pulls no punches.
Some say that was very, very fortunate.
Call everyone racist. It’ll be like the Awesome song in The Lego Movie with awesome changed to racist.
My BIL immolated himself in the tractor shed this morning.
His sight has survived but he is badly burned. They have him asleep but not in a coma.
He is going to be beside himself when he wakes up and realises that after 50 years around farm machinery he did something idiotic.
That is awful – what we all dread. Can you say how it occurred?
My dad was back burning during a fire season & took a leaking backpack (with I think diesel in it) from a young inexperienced guy & promptly found his own overalls caught fire. He pulled his overalls down as quickly as he could, but his calves were badly burned. I can still recall as an eight year old visiting him in hospital. They had put some purple stuff over his burns. He recovered but had very scarred legs and very thin skin coverage.
I wish your BIL a swift recovery. They are very good with severe burns these days. Little comfort, I know.
By hook or by crook, they do not intend to be defeated.
Pthah. Newbies.
Nothing beats the Spanish silver dollar. 8 Rrrrreales, me hearrrrties.
Many peoples in pre-literature cultures had a set of symbols that provoked stories and meanings which were known to people well versed in oral traditions. They were not languages themselves in any real sense. For instance there are carved stones in parts of Eastern Scotland, known as Pictish stones, that depict symbols and occasional realistic pictures. The symbols have been interpreted in some styles as genealogical reckoners, and they probably are just that. This is not proto-writing though as early hieroglyphs became. They remain as memory-joggers, as symbols for an oral transmission.
Between January 2024 and November 2024, we’ll be phasing out our cash and cheque services across all our banking and wealth management products, including super and pension accounts. We’ll also be switching off our automated telephone banking service used to make payments over the phone.
Macquarie Bank are giving notice that they are digitalising.
Using his name is his appeal to authority: I’m good on elections so believe me on this.
This is not an election.
Hmmm.
Not giving a lot of credit there.
He only went Plan B because Plan A didn’t have Malcolm’s name on the Chairman’s Lounge champers coaster.
If Kevni had proposed fibre to the street, Trumble would have gone fibre to the home.
Simple “Not Invented By Me” syndrome.
Nothing to do with fiscal responsibility.
The spirit is very willing but how do we get those bits of paper and get them in?
Before September 19th.
I know. I will ask my MP, Allegra Spender.
Tell me, Allegra, what can you do for me?
Yes, I’m worried, I must admit.
The upticks will swing it.
I take it they intend to cheat.
That’s a win for Trump in the electoral college.
Grey clouds (not heavy) above, rain tapping against the window seemingly more through bored obligation than as agents of a tempest’s ferocity, flashes of lightening, a bottle of Beaujolais shaving a couple of degrees off in the fridge, pissing off the balcony onto the umbrella’s of the huddling people who live in the unit above, and shoutingly searching for rhyming words of abuse – Shuckwits? Juckwits? Duckwits? Luckwits? All while drinking a Landbier.
Life is pretty jucking alright.
FFS.
Wednesday isn’t the OT.
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 1:42 PM
Aug 30, 2023 1:41 PM
Bruce O’Nuke
Yep. And just wait until they start noticing all the whale deaths and put restrictions on wind construction to protect them. Suddenly the economics will ratchet another step worse.
I’m curious about the level of noise for submarines using sonar systems.
It seems the soundwaves affect whales. Will they enable Russian or Chinese Boomers to hide close inshore to the Continental US? A depressed trajectory missile with 3 nukes each – the Type 094 carries 12 for a total of 36 warheads – could take out a large percentage of the US retaliatory strike capability in far less time than an ICBM launch from the Chinese mainland.
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 3:41 PM
ZK2A:
“We need more people to go and explain the Voice to Parliament to our community, explain what it is and how it could help. We need to have it explained more to the grassroots level,” he said.
No.
If your kid doesn’t turn up at school and behave in a manner consistent with learning, then every fortnight, the parent will lose 10% of their sit down money. If the kid gets income from the State they can lose 10% as well.
Nothing else is working, so get bloody serious, Australia.
And I mean this for black and white, outback and city.
A bit of tough love will work, the current policies aren’t.
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 4:27 PM
Bruce O’Nuke:
Winston – I don’t think subs are much threat to whales because using sonar is like putting up a giant sign saying HERE I AM in neon lights. Sub guys tend not to do that as it’s bad for their health.
Bruce you misunderstand my point.
If the Ecocrucifixes make enough noise to confuse whales, then the enemy missile subs will have a better chance of getting closer offshore without being detected because they will be shielded by the noise.
A noisy environment shields enemy subs from detection and USN hunter type subs will be operating in a degraded environment as they try to use sonar to detect the enemy.
FFS. Sharri Markson is absent — again — from her 5pm show on Sky News. Her stand-in is Caleb Bond.
I would buy a used car from Caleb Bond.
Markson does great journalism when she’s at work. But she not at work often enough to build an audience.
wouldn’t
Robert Sewell
Aug 30, 2023 4:34 PM
John.
SOSUS is a sound detecting array. If the ambient noise levels double or whatever, the detection limit goes up.
The latest Chinese Missile submarine is noisier than its predecessor. The increase in noise from the offshore Ecocrucifixes negates that disadvantage. It makes it harder for the US subs to find them to destroy them.
The Tasmanian inquiry into abuse in government institutions has finished its report, with over 100 individuals to be referred to the police or child protection authorities:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-30/tas-commission-of-inquiry-final-hearing-hobart/102788850
Mr McClellan and Ms Milligan seem to have been unavailable for comment.
I’ve been posting on the Wednesday Fred.
Only it’s not the Wednesday Fred. It’s the Other Wednesday Fred.
France loses another.
All the best for your BiL bons. Long and painful recovery.
Also, the life expectancy data seems to be aggregated for all those claiming to be aboriginal. If the town camps and remote communities were separated out, the data would be much worse, but the attempted solutions could be concentrated where needed. The aggregation allows indigenous living assimilated lives to say “Poor fella me, I don’t live as long as you whities, gimmee munni”.
I doubt they’d cheat sufficiently to overcome the no vote, but the fact that Albo is going ahead despite terrible poll numbers suggests that he knows something we don’t.
Of course, he’s sufficiently stupid that they may just lose regardless.
Unfortunately, we don’t seem to have any threats to leave the country yet, to encourage us to vote NO.
Not that they ever follow through on such threats. They are like kids threatening to hold their breath until they turn purple.
A people, conquered so completely as the Australian Indigenous, don’t have any say about sovereignty.
Tough break for your BiL, Bons. Few things worse than severe burns. All the best.
Maybe it is her journalism that gets in the way of her being always available for regular programs.
Just a thought.
Had another read of the proposed constitutional wording again, and realised that it is easily misunderstood.
What really matters is what room there is for recourse, and there is effectively zero.
It states quite clearly that parliament will determine the legislation for the voice. Which means, if the legislation states it will have veto powers, it will not be in violation because it says parliament makes the rules. As long as it gives an Aboriginal voice to parliament, it is IMMUNE from recourse.
I’ve been saying Albo will game the system, and the wording allows him to game it completely. Share widely.
“At a glance, I do believe Mackerras is Hi Alan-ing”.
It appears he wrote that article in April.
Before the swan dive in the polls.
If the “Yes” vote gets up, Australians deserve what they get.
Hectored into a treaty, a republic, no coal, no nukes and no hope.
The increased noise is inconsequential because over the last several decades the noise level has increased by multiples. Nonetheless I have seen interviews with sonar officers stating they can detect ships hundreds of kilometers away. It isn’t noise per se that is the issue, it is the frequencies.
New taxes and levies to pay “Compensation” and “Reparations” “in perpetuity.”
Truthfully asking here – not claiming true insight into the tent embassy (although surely it was old whitey who had tents, while Aborigines had lean-tos).
Isn’t the tent embassy sort of an inert symbolic gesture? They have never ‘done’ anything. Just, I dunno, tent-‘embassying’.)
The longest running protest would consist of getting up in the morning, pissing on the nearby toilets, grabbing some Brekky (no goannas, of course) talking about footy all day, having a barbecue and a few beers in the evening, and going to bed – isn’t that essentially it.
I have protested getting up at 6:00 more vigorously than this.
dover0beach
Was Victoria Nuland recently there?
So what are we going to do when we wake up and find the Voice passed on the barest of margins, and all the votes are counted except for the missing ones?
Is anyone running a book on it?
Luigi the Unbelievable aka PM Albanese is going to have a concert for the Yes Skreech. He’s getting a country singer, comedian and a blek guy to provide the vibe. Apparently none could attend. He was so disappointed. No Cash, no Hope and no bloody Wonder!
Lode, isn’t it a metaphor for the entire racial grievance industry?
Sit around, stand up, scratch your bum, look around, do nothing much, get paid, whinge a bit, rinse and repeat.
Pointless, useless, brain dead emotional blackmail.
Bons:
Your BiL – did they give a percentage for his burns?
I hope he got good immediate care…
I remember a burns bloke from my training in OT in ’83. He had been cornered by a fire and had to run through the flames to get out – about 30% burns to legs and torso.
Guess what they put on the 2nd degree burns?
First correct guess gets a Pink Elephant stamp.
Mayonnaise?
Cold water?
Can you still hear it Porgia, in the night, the screaming of the dorper?
The screaming Dorpers?