Dutton, 2nd referendum

That will drive old tori fighter Albo insane

Is Dutton playing a longer game perhaps to keep Albo Quixote frothing at the mouth?

Reason only works with reasonable, intelligent people.
Fear works with all, mostly all anyway.

Which is why the Left wants people to be as unintelligent as possible.

Knowledge Is Sanity | Power Line (1 Sep)

Bjorn Lomborg @BjornLomborg

Study shows that people who possess more overall environmental knowledge or climate-specific knowledge experience less climate change anxiety

(and less knowledge, more anxiety)

Can we go back to educating our kids instead of scaring them?

9:10 PM · Aug 31, 2023

Yep, keep them in the dark, feed them bulldust and they will be running to Big Daddy Government to save them from the boogeyman.

Dutto may be trying to hold the Lib’s together. We all know there are more than a few who don’t belong in the party, maybe trying stave off infighting.

That’s about as generous as I’ll be about this.

Even though it certain the Yes will win. The country is doomed either way.

A retired skool ma’am- just what I would have imagined. Those who can do, those who can’t teach. So true.

Even though it certain the Yes will win. The country is doomed either way.

lucky for you you’re in Japan- you really are full of shite

Yes so a party member who actually campaigned against Shama wasn’t expelled.

Copying EUSSR- if you don’t vote the ‘right’ way the first time they give you a second chance.

Dutto may be trying to hold the Lib’s together.

Which Libs? The duplicitous freaks who stood for office and won seats, or the poor buggers who voted for them rather than spoil their ballots or vote Labor?

We know who is more important. We’ve been told we don’t matter.

https://twitter.com/ArmchairW/status/1698161663147663809

Summary of why AW believes the Russians are preparing for a huge offensive : to invade and occupy all of Ukraine.

One of the biggest – and certainly the most consequential – question marks in the world right now is the current status of the Russian Army. Some particularly dim Western commentators and even senior officials have claimed recently that the Russians have lost half or more of their combat power from the date of their initial invasion in February 2022 and are now weaker than the Ukrainians overall. These claims have so many problems they’re barely worth discussing and should simply be dismissed out of hand. Let’s work through a real analysis instead.

“The Sword of Damocles – the Russian Army’s force buildup through 2023 and what it means for the Ukrainian War going forward.”

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Armchair Warlord
@ArmchairW
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I believe they intend to invade, occupy, and pacify Ukraine with it.

We’ve been told we don’t matter.

correct- the other thing I’ve observed about the political class both here and in the Us is that if you are competent and have achievements in the real world you are NOT WANTED. Politics in the west is not about competent citizens stepping up to serve their fellow citizens, it’s a cast and reserved for those with connections. This must change.

if you are competent and have achievements in the real world you are NOT WANTED

But, your vote is. That’s where OPM plays it’s part.

This keeps them in the parasite class and pigging at the trough.

Here are some cold, hard facts for Yes campaign proponents and supporters.

The gap does not exist between Indigenous Australians and the rest of Australia. It exists between our most marginalised Indigenous Australians and everyone else, including the growing and comfortable Aboriginal middle class that the voice proponents belong to.

Some of these people live very comfortably off six-figure salaries and maintain large property portfolios. Yet the premise of the voice suggests we are all inherently disadvantaged because of our racial heritage – a racial stereotype the Yes campaigners rely on to exploit the goodwill of Australians.

Part of a very hard-hitting telling of truth to power in the Australian this weekend from Jacinta Nampjinpa Price. Stunning and very brave indeed. Straight talk.

A woman for our times.

I hope all Aussies stand up and Vote No in support of her critique about what’s going wrong and her policies that will start to fix it.

My fear is the Dutton’s Referendum will simply make people Vote Yes this time because they don’t want more of the same waste of money later. A bad move.

If ‘yes’ gets up then Dutton may find himself having to have referendum anyway, to rescind and replace a yes vote with a new less harmful measure.

He should save himself all of that trouble and us all of the expense.

Legislate a Recognition, just as we have an Apology, and then forget this sort of division forever.

One aspect of Mr. Windschuttle’s ‘The Breakup…’ which I had been previously unaware of, was the hypothesis that, while no treaties were formally entered with indigenous representative bodies (because there were none, at least on a national, state, or regional level as we acknowledge), on a smaller scale, where indigenous family groups accepted the newcomers (including their food, and protection from neighbouring clans) and interacted with them amicably, such instances could constitute informal treaties.

In other words, where something was exchanged between the two parties (indigenous women sometimes being the item of exchange), and co-existence followed, that barter symbolised (in lieu of a written document) mutual acknowledgement and an intent to co-operate.

I was also unaware that Governor Phillip was speared in the shoulder by a man of Benelong’s clan, but the Governor refused to sanction retribution. So much for the ‘genocidal’ intent.

Legislate a Recognition, just as we have an Apology, and then forget this sort of division forever.

NO! No, no, no, no, NO!
Why work to produce something (with the various risks that entails), when you can steal (with the sanction of authority) from others? It’s part of the human condition that some will always want, and try to, take advantage of others. Pretending otherwise will not change anything for the better. Humans respond to fear, force, coercion.

We’ve been told we don’t matter.

Eggsactly and we still don’t despite the appearances of consultation they try on.

My local fed member, good bloke and Afghan veteran of 1 RAR. Sent out a meet and greet invite, me not being in town replied with apologies and gave him 3 concerns. Two I knew he was against anyway but iterated my concerns anyway. The third, cost of living being driven by huge immigration numbers (Housing supply), anticompetitive behaviour by Colesworths (food prices, virtue signalling like banning cheap cage eggs and extras like paying for paper shopping bags) and the fact renewables weren’t (Energy) especially seeing’s we sit on huge reserves of gas & uranium.

The first 2 concerns a staffer went into depth outlining the Coalition policy but the last and probably most important, a single motherhood statement. Most people I know rate the cost of living no 1 issue at the moment and all they could muster about it was a single statement. Tells you all.

But smooth, so I haven’t spilt my sake.

There’s such a lot to like about Japan. Including the bento lunchboxes on the train.
Don’t miss those.

Armchair Warlord has never been right about anything though.

I doubt you even read the details of the piece, dotty.

One thing is certain though, AW has a far better understanding of the war and the issues within it than you.

So, we’ll just have to see. If he turns out to be right this is majorly bad news. Many more people will die. The destruction will be enormous. And this last week Russia has confirmed mobilisation of nuclear missile batteries. There are maniacs on both sides but it’s the bloodsucking vampires in the US that worry me most. That senile Old Pervert in the WH will agree to anything his evil neocon handlers will propose to save his skin.

trying to hold the Lib’s together

I could not give a runny, pungent, puddle of faecal matter.
They don’t think about me, care about me, know that I exist.
I don’t think about them, care about them, acknowledgement their existence.

They are, as I’ve tediously written many times, a halitosis of putrefying, leprous corpses, grunting mimicry of long-deceased conservative sounds, offering nothing of substance other than hirsute nostalgia and the absence of empathy of a narcissist. They exist purely to feed from prey who are too cognitively-restrained to realise that the acidic drool dripping from their oral orifice portends nothing pleasurable.

email upon email offering tutoring, counseling support, mentoring etc.

The highly paid indidgeny industry , touting for new “clients.” A veritable army of advocates living off OPM.

One thing is certain though, AW has a far better understanding of the war and the issues within it than you.

Not if he’s been wrong every single time.

Let’s say I took a bet with Tim Sheens every week this year that Tigers were shit and would lose every week, it wouldn’t matter how little I know about rugby league. I’d still be right most of the time.

Today is the anniversary of the ending of the Beslan School siege.

I think I will stick to God’s Constitution

Can you outline how this works?!

I see, so he’s always wrong every.single.time. because he doesn’t provide time frames.So if his predictions are battlefield accurate, they are still wrong because timeframes.

*The SMO was always meant to last for four years, just as planned*

It’s just kneepadding for Putin at that point.

Uluru Dialogue co-chair Megan Davis says “Trump-ian misinformation” has come for the voice referendum and has made the campaign for a Yes vote harder.

I presume this is the same Megan Davis who claims her grandmother was “blackbirded” from Vanuatu.

Exposed as misinformation.

Whether or not it is “Trumpian” is moot.

Well spotted about Megan Davis, calli.

Leftists seem to have a pattern of inventing their ‘deprived, oppressed’ ancestry as a cover for their own privilege. Or, in the case of people like Pocahontas, as a pathway to it. Or both.

Anyway, ancestor woraship seems to be making a big comeback in certain circles. I don’t know about other Cats and Kittehs, but while I admire the immediate ancestors whom I know something about, for concrete reasons, the notion that people unknown to me who died a long time ago are more than entries on the family tree is absurd.

They may have been good, bad or indifferent – so what? They do not imbue me with either privilege or oppression. Their histories may or may not be interesting, but that is all. The chromosomal mixing after three or four generations means that very little, if any, of them is left in me. That’s as it should be, to avoid the perils of inbreeding.

As is often the case, leftists hold opposing principles to be true: that biological ancestry unto many generations is important, and that humans are plastic created by their current environment and preferences. There are numerous subsets of this crazy pretzel logic.

No wonder they score high on the neuroticism scale. Trying to reconcile all of those contradictions must be very stressful indeed.

Vicki,
I am very sorry to hear you are still having a hard time with your daughter. I believe it hits harder when you only have one child also. Perhaps they struggle against what they believe to be the burden of being the only one. Almost as if they resent that there isn’t another to share any future responsibilities to the parents that raised them.
It matters not that you give them your all regarding time and yes, finances.

I never, not for a second, had ever given a thought that my son would betray me. I had instilled into him honesty and integrity. To whit, every time he broke up with a girlfriend, it was always face to face, not text, phone or, the worst way, by ghosting them. I believed I had taught him to always question if something didn’t sound right. To give someone the benefit of the doubt etc. He had always impressed me with his “stand-up”, character.

All of that fell by the wayside when his father began his ‘whispering” campaign a couple of years before the big blow-up. The fact that we all lived in the same house, my life was a totally open book, there was no part of my life that was secret, my son fell hook, line and sinker for his father’s “poor me” shtick which had served him so well over the years. I know, because I fell for it when we first got together.

He did try to have me believe that he wasn’t taking sides, which may have been believable if he hadn’t told me to “get f**ked” first. My son’s timing has not always been the best.

My greatest sadness is not the betrayal itself, nor the fact that he couldn’t bring himself to say, sorry mum, I made a mistake. It’s that the longer he stays with his father, the more he is becoming like him. Unhappy, miserable and blaming everyone and everything else for his own actions. His god awful grandmother, my MIL, was like that. It runs in the family.

‘Trumpian misinformation’ making Yes campaign harder

Haha, they’re going to blame Trump when No gets up…
Someone fetch me my basket. I feel very deplorable.

miltonf

Sep 3, 2023 1:04 PM
We’ve been told we don’t matter.

correct- the other thing I’ve observed about the political class both here and in the Us is that if you are competent and have achievements in the real world you are NOT WANTED. Politics in the west is not about competent citizens stepping up to serve their fellow citizens, it’s a cast and reserved for those with connections. This must change.

MiltonF:
Look up Managerialism and the mechanics of how it concentrates the elites by marriage and job title.
You’ll wonder how you didn’t see it coming.
Canberra and the ABC with their connections where the wife/husband gets a job in the admin sector in her pre married name, and their kids get jobs and a lift up the ladder.
Someone here tried to make a

connect the names

diagram of it, but I don’t remember it eventuating. Probably too complex.

Hi Calli,
also watching Casablanca.

Friday night I sang along with all the songs while watching Mama Mia, Here we go again! Even after a couple of decades of not having listened to my Abba records, I still remember all the words to the songs. A brilliant antidote to the occasional attack of the blues. 😀

I sew and iron to ABBA. And the Bee Gees. I have zero musical taste.

Except that ABBA’s arrangements are very complex and the eldest Gibb brother wrote top songs not just for the group but for many other artists.

I always enjoy the end credits for Mama Mia!, with Benny and Bjorn in the “gods”, and Colin Firth in platforms and lurex.

Donna and the Dynamos.

by ghosting them

Ghosting is awesome.
A bird turns crazy, you owe them nothing.
Move on.

JC, you are so gay for Australia.

Ew, where did you find that?

ABBA and the Bee Gees have and are, outlasting all the churned out crap songs from the last thirty years.

Fun fact, the chaps from ABBA & the Gibb estate earn more in royalties from what they’ve written for other artists than they earn from their time with ABBA or the Bee Gees.

JC,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGPYBb2DRsg

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Sep 3, 2023 5:12 PM

Dutton’s plan to reduce Indigenous disadvantage in lieu of voice
“Sexual abuse is a really serious crime, which has a devastating impact on children, families and communities — this is not a political football.”

It IS a political football, and no one will do anything to stop it, they just make it look as if they are doing so.
Extra 100 letters deleted because there’s no bloody point.

“Data from Territory Families show there has been no escalation in investigations of s*xual abuse or exploytation,” CEO of The Secretariat of National Abriginal and Islander Child Care (SNAICC) Catherine Liddle said.

Nothing to see here.

Context;

The report below says;

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander kids are ten times more likely to be on care and protection orders than non-Indigenous children, and at least seven times more likely to have suffered maltreatment in recent years, according to a new government report.

https://nit.com.au/06-06-2023/6250/reports-confirms-indigenous-youth-make-up-disproportionate-rates-of-abuse-out-of-home-care-and-contact-with-protection-services

JC
Sep 3, 2023 5:07 PM
OMG

Indiana Jones face melting scene.

Sam Bailey says some many smart things.
She also says some loopy stuff that would make Pete Evans blush.

The black armband view of Australian history has been so successful in becoming the dominant lens because it offers more of the population – from policy makers to the average Jill & Joe – an opportunity to vicariously demonstrate their moral superiority, and thus their place in the social hierarchy.

To wit: A Kiwi supervisor recently announced he had watched something on the ABCess about Australian aborigines, and stated that he felt they’d been the worst treated of any indigenous race in history, due to the multiple genocides and blah blah …

My point being that by making the statements he did, he got to publicly declare (and receive acknowledgement for; which was not forthcoming from me!) his support of the dominant social-historical narrative. i.e. “I belong.” He reinforces his place within the ‘tribe’ without having to expend much energy or take any risk (he doesn’t have to fight for his place).

What does evidence-based history offer in the way of emotional or social reward?

The best thing the Yes campaign has going for it is John Howard’s popped his head up on the No side.
Obviously he was always going to be a No vote.
But in his usual snivelling way, he only popped up when the No campaign had already turned the tide.

I learnt something this afternoon. Morton’s Fork.
Reminds me a lot of our electoral system.

Rabz
Sep 3, 2023 5:31 PM

my first preferences are heavy blues/rock, electronic and the best of punk

Someone to watch over me

JC,
The you tube clip was a response to the pic you posted of Biden’s female doppelganger.
I thought you would see the humour in it.
I also agree with your comment on Australia being a great country.

When you read a comment posted by me, with your handle in it, you obviously think it must be derogatory. Sad.

Apart from ABBA, the brothers Gibb and prog rock, I have a taste for Purcell and Handel. And many…many others.

The planets and stars all sing to it, dancing in their orbits and pulsing to every cadence.

I draw the line at rap. There are limits. 😀

Yay, we’re number one in the world at something!

Where Smoking Breaks The Bank (& Where It Doesn’t) (3 Sep)

Australia is the world’s most expensive country in which to be a smoker, with one pack alone tearing a hole of almost US$26 in an Australian smoker’s wallet. Australia’s neighbor New Zealand is almost as pricey with a 20 pack of Marlboros costing upwards of US$22. The third most expensive country in the ranking was Ireland, where the identical pack costs the equivalent of more than US$16, according to Numbeo.

Apparently vaping is very popular here. It’s a mystery.

I see blackbirding is getting publicity again. Before he chucked academia (or it chucked him), Peter Corris of Cliff Hardy crime novel fame was a promising academic historian. He published a well argued book showing that the Melanesian labourers were not just passive dupes and victims of kidnapping (that happened, but mostly in the very early days), but were willing participants with a view to their own and their family’s interests. But we mustn’t upset the ideologues with facts, must we?

https://books.google.com.au/books/about/Passage_Port_and_Plantation.html?id=7NW3AAAAIAAJ&redir_esc=y

I was pleased to see Christopher Nolan included a Negro lady in a class Oppenheimer was giving. Many may have thought woke. Not true. Her name was Carolyn Parker. She worked on the Manhattan Project. I thought the movie was one of the best acting performances for all the actors. Stand out was the unhinged Robert Downey Jr. Emily Blunt has come of age. I’ve read a lot about Oppenheimer over the years as although I don’t have heroes I really admire him.

JC, calli, Cassie, Pogria, myself and some others all have dodgeyknees. We want a Voice.

“GreyRanga
Sep 3, 2023 6:21 PM
JC, calli, Cassie, Pogria, myself and some others all have dodgeyknees. We want a Voice.”

Laughing so hard I’m crying! Epic comment of the thread. No, of the month! 😀 😀 😀