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MONEY GRUBBING SLUT

Is truth a defence to misusing a carriage service?

Snap, Zulu. My own grandmother in Wales was ‘in service’ as a washerwoman when aged 18. She married a Reiver down from the Scots borders to try his luck at coalmining, having fled his prosperous yeoman origins. After he’d taken ‘the King’s shilling’ and been taken prisoner of war by the Turks, they lived through the Depression in dire poverty in a South Wales mining village when the mines went on strike and people actually starved. My mother won a scholarship for higher schooling, but she couldn’t take it up. She went to serve as a ‘companion’ and ‘helper’ to an old lady of the Big House in the nearest town when she was thirteen. She hated it, but had no other choice to stay alive and well. It was meant kindly. Marriage to my father when she was nineteen, and my grandparents had moved to England, presented a way out during wartime. He was from London. From frying pan to fire though that was.

Everyone has stories about tough times, somewhere in their 1930’s heritage.
Even the ‘well off’ could be just on the edge of maintaining themselves back then.

I’m really starting to hate the lieboral party. Reckon they left NSW in better shape than when they assumed office?

oops. Mum was 20 when she married, not nineteen.

She met my dad when she was waitressing. She only knew him for six weeks before they married. The War was like that. I’ve recently read a couple of ‘romances’ by northern women writers about the lives of women in the various Women’s services during the Second World War. They are formulaic, and the writing is fairly juvenile, with occasional good bursts, but they do manage to convey the spirit and idioms of the times, and the values and concerns people had then, and how the war was changing perceptions. Pre-marital sex was frequent, so were pregnancies that led to marriages, even overseas – my Aunt ending up in Louisiana being a case in point.

I am an omnivore when it comes to books. Always have been. I’ll read anything and pass judgement later.

Oops meant to link that last not block quote. Here’s the link.

Regarding infrastructure, I see your point when I think of the Hume Hwy. When I was a teenager, the Vicco part of it was considered superior to the NSW part. Now it’s the other way around.

One of my grandmothers was a maid for the Hordern family. Lived in as home was far away. My own mum cleaned houses and took in ironing.

None of this is unfamiliar territory for many of us.

My great friend at school was a Pallister Girls Home girl. Removed from mum and boyfriend because of “moral danger”. We all have a fair idea of what that means. State ward. There were a large number of Pallister girls at WGHS, they’d sometimes bring their tooth and nail fights to school too. My friend went to the local youth fellowship, married another friend of mine, but her early days caught up with her – problems with relationships that ended in divorce.

There were also a few aboriginal girls both at school and church fellowship. My brother became good friends with them – they had been brought to Sydney to finish their education and were fostered out with a couple of families in Roseville. Not as talented as Evonne Goolagong, another girl from school a few years ahead of me.

Dieterle recommends gardening at home or in a community garden, as well as learning about and getting involved in local initiatives to restore land and habitats to help cope with eco-grief.

In other words, if you’re worried about the environment, do something practical.

No need to turn it into a soap opera.

Brisbane used to have cold winters in the ’70s.

So cold we’d wear a jumper to school under the blazer.

….but still wore short pants no matter the weather!

No need to turn it into a soap opera.

They have a great need to be seen as sensitive, caring and in touch with both the zeitgeist and their own feelings. In other words, they’re neurotic fatheads. So it has to be a soap opera, and they are the stars.

It’s all they’ve got in life.

To add to the “cold areas” in Queensland. I was quite surprised when I learnt that there are successful apple growing areas up north.
Always happy to learn something new. 😀

Now that I live in an area that has very cold Winters, perhaps the Cox’s Orange Pippin will do better than at my previous abode. Hope so!

Barking Toad
Sep 7, 2023 12:10 PM
All my bananas come pre-bent. As far as I know

In the ACT they straighten when inserted into “Dents In Poo” Barr.

Correct title please. He’s “The Grand Poo-Barr”. Ask him, he’ll tell you.

Regarding Apple’s impregnability in the smartphone market, some news from the fringes;

“Taiwanese contract electronics giant Hon Hai Precision, which is Apple’s main assembler, earlier this week reported August sales down 12% m/m and 8% y/y, a 5-month low. All of this paints a gloomy picture right before the iPhone 15 launch.” – UBS

Nishiki market is where my wife needed a pee. Headed off to find a toilet. I waited. The place was considerably busier by the tim she came back. I could see where she was in the crowd as they ducked and dived to avoid someone who walks all over the place. I try to walk slightly in front so I don’t trip over her. Not a clue. Drives the same way. Be warned.

Lysander!

Run, Elbow, Run!

Anal really is garbage

And working class girls of all ethnicities who suffered familial disintegration were similarly trained and sent out from Parramatta Girls Home as late as the 1950’s and 60’s.

I was lucky not to be one of them.

Much ill-treatment specifically claimed to be for aborigines also applied to poor whites throughout the nineteenth to the mid-twentieth century, both male and female. Those were the times. Stop playing on them to make spurious land claims.

Apart from the obligatory self-referential plea for sympathy (sigh) Lizzie is correct.

My sister’s best friend was a ‘graduate’ of Parramatta Girls’. She never said much about it, except that it was the worst experience of her life – and her life wasn’t easy. She was part-Aboriginal, but not so’s you’d notice – light brown with features that were open to interpretation.

She was a great person, intelligent, very creative and clever with all manner of handcrafts and designs, and had a few good jobs in her youth. But, she was always weighed down by a feeling of worthlessness, married well below what she could have (a methadone junkie with the IQ of a mollusc) and died young of cancer.

I don’t know how she ended up at Parramatta Girls’, but she was no criminal and never committed a violent deed in all the years we knew her.

Those institutions had plenty of non-Aboriginal people in them. In those days, in NSW there was a catch-all offence called ‘being in moral danger’ which could mean having sex with your boyfriend when you were 15. You could be taken from your family and institutionalised for it.

And, those institutions attracted some very unsavoury people as employees.

Vale, Helen.

It’s funny Calli – worth Cats taking a look, never seen Elbow lose his cool like that before… the inVoice must be straining him too.

With his government polling 53% 2PP and his personal approval slipping into dogshit territory a post mortem into a ~45% National vote for his signature Yes Whatevs Vote would have consequences.

Some ALP BSD’s might start to ponder how long it would take to get a Pliberserk-Chalmers Government electable.

Top Man at the very toppest top of his game.

Agreed Knight#2 was the pic of the toons.

Lizzie spaketh:

The one with a just-landed little Alan Joyce heading off with his millions

Odd that he’s used a “walking away from a crash” metaphor when the company itself has not yet failed.
The airborne plane sputtering and smoking and heading towards the ground with Joyce employing a “golden parachute” metaphor would have been the obvious one to use – it’s what I would have done, but then that probably explains why Knight is a syndicated cartoonist and I’m still a schmuck.

How can we let a tiny minority drive the nation?

marxist infiltration- arts, meja, ejucashun

Are they still slagging off about him?

Bolt is so prissy.

This proves that it has nothing to do with the Doha airport incident and everything with protecting Qantas and the politicians’ Chairman’s Lounge privileges.

It also proves they don’t care that we know.

Speakperson makes voting Labor seem like a sensible option (can’t believe I just said that but we are desperate now to keep the lights on). One thing’s for sure, I’ll never forgive Howard for bringing in Trumble)

Apart from the obligatory self-referential plea for sympathy (sigh) Lizzie is correct.

Stalker.

For what it’s worth I was subject to being classified ‘at risk of moral danger’ at 14 in 1957. The fear of it and of the girls’ home is something never forgotten. Going to church fellowship saved us, wisely dragged there by my 15 yr old sister. Went to church where they did the full Evensong. Fell in love with the liturgy. We both found boyfriends at fellowship, and so much for moral danger. We had a great time.

Eff off Stalker.

“Speakman” TM appears to be a wholly owned subsidiary of the Photios lobbying industrial complex. The ruinables money go round, it seems, is simply too big a pot of honey to resist.

Southern Victoria used to have regular white frosts in the 1960s.

So did Mt Druitt in Sydney’s outer west in the mid-fifties. Like snow on the ground, the paddocks all crunchy white and the pigs’ water frozen on the top. Had to smash it with a metal bar prior to feeding them before school in 1956.

Suburban heat island effect and many more trees has changed things since then.
Maybe some other variability, hard to say, but I remember also the scorching hot summers back then. And also the floods in prolonged periods of rain, when the chippie had to be fed on saved newspaper for a bath and the fuel stove and the fireplaced ran on coal with a bit of damp wood. Such a distinct smell as you entered a coal-fired home.

This proves that it has nothing to do with the Doha airport incident and everything with protecting Qantas and the politicians’ Chairman’s Lounge privileges.

It also proves they don’t care that we know.

…..or they thought the usual suspects in the MSM would ignore it.
They didn’t count on Aston in the AFR calling them to account and as a result Journos realised how much extra their own OS trips were costing. Always count on self interest.

Oops goodness me, lost a line there, it’s Attapuss who has retreated, not Hairy, who is as usual buried in his ipad reading the Speccie as things go on around him.

“Speakman” TM appears to be a wholly owned subsidiary of the Photios lobbying industrial complex. The ruinables money go round, it seems, is simply too big a pot of honey to resist.

so the lieboral pardy continues to implode like a smoldering rubbish heap.

This culture is shared only by a very small number of aborigines, majority are Christians who do practice forgiveness and redemption. How can we let a tiny minority drive the nation?

Those folks need to speak up and say we believe in forgiveness and redemption, not makarrata. $5.7B per annum and increasing for the NIAA only one of more than 1000 indigenous organisations mostly payed for by taxpayers. We already pay an exorbitant amount of rent.

I like in Japanese schools they have no cleaners. The kids clean up after themselves. If you have to clean up after yourself you create less rubbish.

It is almost as if they have a level of social maturity that a form of unwritten compact forms

Yes. The famous Japanese reserve and politeness is a product of that.

Similarly, in Britain, especially in days gone by, there was a willingness to put up with being herded together in cities on a small island and make the best of it. Mustn’t grumble, not passing comment, and the adherence to queueing, and for the middle classes, calling out ‘poor form’ when social rules were flouted, was all part of it.

dover0beach
Sep 7, 2023 3:08 PM

Cheers. Yes, amazing story.
In my younger days, I did some small heights, but nothing like that.
Not a hi-viz vest in sight!
Big credit to the cameraman up top, too.
Back when men were men, huh?

I’d add, that if indigenous culture had produced anything other than grievance and hand out for other people’s money, they might be using that level of capital to buy back all these sacred sites they constantly complain about.

Let’s round it out at $1mill for simplicity. That’s $35000 for every individual, every year.

And a household of four, two of whom have jobs, account for $35K times four?

I wonder if that includes the Departm,ent of Corrections costs and Police costs.

Re Albo going to China.
I’ve posted this many times over the past 18 months.
Here’s how it works.

Countries are lining up to go to Beijing to bend the knee.
The begging is non stop.
China then announces that country XYZ is invited to China at some time in the future to be determined.
Then China keeps the invitee hanging (Germany was in a holding pattern for something like 6 months according to Bill Bishop).
Then China gives you the green light usually only 2-3 weeks out from the visit so the invitee has to drop everything to get there.
It’s shameless.
It’s embarrassing.
And every country on the planet participates.

The past was a very different place.

yes the ‘good old days’ weren’t always that good

There needs to be homes for the genuine mental cases.

Speakman should move to Victoria.

I’d say Speakperson’s consent laws did more damage than anything Prostituto’s done. At least the Vicco lieboral party has Moira Deaming and Bev MacArthur. Not defending prostituto by any means.

cohenite
Sep 7, 2023 4:30 PM

Speakman, kean, photios etc, look at them; you would not feed the fools.

This country is stuffed.

Well, they are not lacking in female reps, that’s for sure.
Counted 14 of them.

DrBeauGan
Sep 7, 2023 4:39 PM

That post would have scored an uptick from me. I’m sure others will agree. (Rhyming accidental.)

Bring back the bloody UPTICKS please, Dover.

Muddy

Around 12 million individual taxpayers sharing the cost of $35 billion is, crudely, $3000 per individual taxpayer (ignoring contributions from Company Tax, Excise et al, which essentially fall on the individual taxpayers anyway). The “official” number used to be 220 working days a year after taking out weekends and public holidays. At eight hours, 480 minutes a day for simplicity, that is 105,600 minutes of work per year, which comes to under three cents per minute.

I doubt that the number will scare many.

miltonf
Sep 7, 2023 4:53 PM

yes I miss dickless upticks

so do many by the comments.

I can understand that one can cram a lot of ‘lived’ experience in a long life, but for heaven’s sake, give it a rest, will ya?

Whatever subject comes up, it’s Me too!
Scrolling only helps one so far, you bound to catch some of it.

A good metaphor but I’m not sure if a Qantas plane heading towards a crash would have gone down so well with the audience, most of whom fly or have flown Qantas and would like to think it still has its safety assurances.

Dont tell them about this then 😉

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/08/27/faa-pilots-health-conditions-va-benefits/

or this…

https://kirschsubstack.com/p/the-faa-has-very-quietly-tacitly

feelthebern
Sep 7, 2023 5:09 PM

I tried to be as delicate as I could be, not naming anyone, if it soothes your feelings, it wasn’t aimed at you.

But honestly!!!

Testing

Sigh.
Sumfinks not workin.

To cut a long story short, I came up with 32 minutes per week the individual Australian taxpayer is presently working to pay for their share of the $35B.

KevinM

Take the three cents a minute number, 33 minutes to the dollar, $3000 is roughly 100,000 minutes, a bit hard to grasp. Try hours, comes to 1600, I think I am out by a factor of 10. Try 160 hours, or four weeks. Still sounds wrong. Maybe I should use a calculator.

Going the other way, $67,000 pa average, $3000 is near enough one 22nd, divide into 220 working days a year, comes to 10 working days, two weeks.

Muddy: Try this line, “You work for two weeks a year just to pay for the current cost of indigenous support. And they want more, in the shape of a fixed share of GDP as ‘reparations’, but for what? Providing modern medicine, roads, et al.”

Lesson: When you haven’t done much mental arithmetic for a while, always do a reality check!

Domestic service was once considered a respectable job.

Domestic service for aboriginal girls would have been very useful: it would teach them how to live in a house. Nobody is born knowing how to use the various things in a bathroom or bedroom, or kitchen. Most of learnt by imitation when we were very young and have forgotten that we learnt. But we did. If you’ve never done it, you simply won’t know unless you are taught.

NEED UPTICKS, Dover.

Having never been slaves themselves (notwithstanding the apparent historical withholding of indigenous wages), there is of course no irony to be noted in the demand by (some) indigenous Australians that future generations of their non-indigenous sisters and brothers be born into hereditary slavery or serfdom to serve their psychological fragility.

P.S. The parasitic class I refer to above are the self-appointed (annointed?) indigenous elite and hangers-on, not the regional and remote indigenous themselves. Just wanted to clarify that.

Muddy, without a black armband view of your life, how on earth can you excuse your own horrible behaviour?

A nation of Gollums, turning and returning over the Precious.

Lysander
Sep 7, 2023 5:52 PM

I don’t trust Elbow’s glib “shine” around the voice getting up.
There must still be something big coming down the pipe…???

There probably is, but on the face of it I can hardly imagine any thinking person voting for it on its merits, at least what we learnt about it so far.

On ideological grounds, no problem from both sides.

The subject was domestic service and the notion that it was exclusively aboriginal girls taken from the bush and installed in suburban homes as “slaves” – part of the Balmoral “case” for acquisition of 2500m2 of parkland from Mosman Council as some sort of reparations.

Domestic service was once considered a respectable job

There were vastly more white domestic servants here and overseas, than there ever were black.

Are leftists arguing that they were all “slaves”?

Leftists complain that in the “bad old days” females had very few or no job opportunities.

Can’t have it both ways.

FMD, Liars MP Andrew Charlton, who has been nominated to save the Elbow regime’s reputation on airline competition in the media

Tom, the ALP bird on sky news a couple hours back was struggling to sell the story.

billie
Sep 7, 2023 6:01 PM

got asked my ethnicity at the doctor’s clinic today

Australian, says I

she behind the counter did not bat an eyelid

and we all moved on

When the Abo/Torres form was shoved in front of me, I replied “I thought the answer was obvious” and refused to take the form.

Not having it.

Hang on a minute…

King was denying it in July, now she’s saying it influenced her.

Liar.

Plumbers own half of the beach fronts at Freshwater.