Open Thread – Thurs 7 Sept 2023


The End of Dinner, Jules-Alexandre Grün, 1913

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JC
JC
September 7, 2023 7:06 pm

From all accounts, Rich ran a great trading firm, Bern.

They were able to access commodities from difficult places at huge discounts to the markets and were able to make mountains of money.

Indolent
Indolent
September 7, 2023 7:08 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 7, 2023 7:08 pm

West Australian Cats would know this town.

Kellerberrin shooting: Gunman Lachlan Bowles turns gun on himself after Wheatbelt police siege
Shannon Hampton
The West Australian
Thu, 7 September 2023 4:56PM

A police siege in WA’s Wheatbelt following the shooting death of a local dad has ended with the gunman turning his weapon on himself.

Kellerberrin father Terry Czernowski was killed about 8.40am on Thursday morning allegedly by 25-year-old gunman Lachlan Bowles.

This afternoon, Bowles was airlifted to hospital for critical care after shooting himself.

At a press conference in Northam on Thursday afternoon, Regional WA Commander Rod Wilde said said Bowles was being airlifted to hospital in a critical condition.

“At this point, and this is evolving quite quickly, but I can say he is in a critical condition from that self-inflicted gunshot wound,” he said.

Cdr Wilde confirmed the pair were known to each other and had been work colleagues for several years. Both were local to Kellerberrin.

He said Mr Bowles had several licensed firearms and that he was not previously known to police.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 7:09 pm

I suspect that Cersei Lannister had a very expensive cat.

Great bod for an older woman. There was an extended scene with her walking in the nud, I won’t give it away.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 7, 2023 7:09 pm

Domestic service was once considered a respectable job.

It certainly was – particularly to the working class.

To Marxist academics and activists it’s an exploitation hard on.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 7, 2023 7:11 pm

On the other side, Bronte is gorgeous. We did the walk from Bondi to Bronte last year. It’s incomparable.

Careful there, JC. Kev will be on your tail, can’t have any sharing of ‘lived experiences’ on this august blogue. Except he won’t, because Kev is a scared dickless little bully who wants to hide behind upticks. Bring them on, Dover. People who ruin the blog with uptick pile-ons shouldn’t be allowed to take away the pleasure some people, like Cassie and many others (even my aged self at times, Kev dearie), receive from being well appreciated.

As for the ‘me’ slur. It is just a slur, put about by a stalker. Personal observations and experiences are nothing new here. A feature not a bug. As I’ve observed since 2010 on the Cat, reading many different commenters, including the many many personal reminiscences and experiences of the stalker.

You sound like Grigs, Kev. *Shudder*

We did the cliff walk from Vaucluse to Bondi a lot during lockdowns, JC, part of the same visual deal. An amazing cliff coastline, where some of it fell substantially away at Dover Heights a few years ago, taking out a road and luckily no houses. Few places in the world have a coastline like this almost on the edge of the CBD. There is evidence that six hundred years ago a tsunami came over the top of The Gap. That a big Pacific Ocean out there with nothing in the way before South America.

Indolent
Indolent
September 7, 2023 7:12 pm
JC
JC
September 7, 2023 7:16 pm

There is evidence that six hundred years ago a tsunami came over the top of The Gap.

Jeez, that would’ve been one huge surfing wave.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 7, 2023 7:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRF5AvMBEE4

Lidia Thorpe at her finest…Be proud the greens, be proud.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 7, 2023 7:23 pm

I tried to be as delicate as I could be, not naming anyone … but honestly !!!!@f# etc

LOL, Kev’s outrageously outraged.

Treading on eggshells, he was. Much.

Bugger off, Kev.

Indolent
Indolent
September 7, 2023 7:23 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 7, 2023 7:24 pm

Jeez, that would’ve been one huge surfing wave.

There is anecdotal evidence that the Fukushima Surfing Championship of 2011 was won by a Japanese tyre salesman riding a wardrobe.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 7, 2023 7:27 pm

Geez.

Two goals in three minutes for the Pies. Another 25 of those and we’re home.

Cassie of Sydney
September 7, 2023 7:29 pm

We thought Gallagher was gonski. She was saved by Amanda Stoker.

Will Catherine King be gonski. Maybe, but I’m sure Amanda Stoker or some other female Liberal will come to her rescue.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 7, 2023 7:34 pm

The lack of self awareness is now almost legendary.

Fook off, Stalker.

I escaped Parramatta Girls Home by the skin of my teeth and the Pentecostal Christian kindly man who rented us his garage, saying he’d keep an eye on us.

You know nothing. You are a fixated person. On me.
Get over it, stalker.

Hairy darling, fix me another gin. Stalker’s on the prowl again.

Cassie of Sydney
September 7, 2023 7:34 pm

Further to “gonski”. JC, I walked past that repulsive toad, David Gonski, today.

Ghastly little man.

calli
calli
September 7, 2023 7:38 pm

King’s a survivor, Cassie. Doesn’t matter how many lies she tells for the cause.

The only time she’ll be unsafe is if someone higher up the food chain is threatened.

Then she’ll be Joyced.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 7, 2023 7:38 pm

Time to fix a salad for our steak.

A celebratory day. What was it Proust said? By small things, such as wallpaper, we survive the tedium of our lives? Yes, that must be it.

Madeleine was in there somewhere too. A piece of cake, as I recall. 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 7, 2023 7:40 pm

We thought Gallagher was gonski.

Not out the woods yet. Hold on to your tickets.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 7:40 pm

Don’t worry about the reason. The telltale sign is called yield curve inversion, which is when the short end of interest rates are higher than the long end.

Piece in Barron’s

A recession could be nine months away, according to this telltale gauge

Nine months puts us around June 24, which is just about when the political season in the US begins to stir. It starts in earnest after August, but if there is a recession it will still be going. In an honest election the Demons would be cactus.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 7, 2023 7:41 pm

( : I remember falling asleep underground on curled up air hoses. The transition from day shift to night had an impact.

Garn:

Every Mines Worker Ever… | Garn.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 7:45 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 7, 2023 7:34 PM

Further to “gonski”. JC, I walked past that repulsive toad, David Gonski, today.

Ghastly little man.

Gee, thanks for the pleasant reminder, Cass. Not only did the arsehole take me out of Syndey Airport in favor of his pension fund pals, I was taking that stock with me to the afterlife, and I had to pay capital gains tax. He deserves to be cold-cocked. Don’t get me started on that dishonest dirtbag. He never resigned from the chairmanship either.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 7, 2023 7:47 pm

Working the wheat bins is a bit of a right of passage for WA uni students, although I managed to avoid it. You hear some horror stories of being assigned to Lower Bumf*ck with some barely functional alcoholic. I have never heard of someone getting fired on though.

Indolent
Indolent
September 7, 2023 7:48 pm
Diogenes
Diogenes
September 7, 2023 7:48 pm

Bronn & Tywin were my picks.
And I would crawl over broken glass for Cersei.

Agree with Ser Bronn & Tywin, but Melisandre did it for me.

Rabz
September 7, 2023 7:48 pm

little more than a designated party harlot shoving it up the arse of Australian consumers wanting sub-$2000 return fares to Europe and the USA

Remember, Charlton is an “economist” who lives in Bellevue Hill in the Eastern Suburbs and represents Parramatta – and no, he hasn’t moved there (despite his preposterous and dishonest claims that he has). First time I’d ever had the misfortune to see the smug oleaginous tosser on TV.

Here’s a hint, hypocrisy boy, if you’re outclassed by a complete lightweight in Bridget McKenzie, then maybe you should slink off back to being one of those economists who’s wrong about everything, all the time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 7, 2023 7:50 pm

JC you appalling monopolist. I don’t know how you sleep at night. Although anyone living in Sydney deserves it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 7, 2023 7:54 pm

Remember, Charlton is an “economist” who lives in Bellevue Hill in the Eastern Suburbs and represents Parramatta …”
I think he has it written on a piece of paper so he can enter the electorate office in the trip computer. Two Rs, two Ts.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 7, 2023 7:55 pm

Given all the shoebox reminiscing, this might be an interesting film to see. David Stratton is not my favorite reviewer, but the point can be made that we do tend to interpret things we see in terms of our own experiences. Here’s the intro to his review of an Indian film ‘Last Film Show’:

I was about nine or 10 years old when I first talked my way into the projection room of a cinema. The projectionist, whose name, I’m afraid, I’ve forgotten, was very kind to the film-obsessed boy who had spent many hours watching films in the front stalls of the cinema but who now wanted to see how it all worked. He showed me how to load the spools of film onto the projector, how to thread the film through a complex series of sprockets, how to charge the carbon Arclight, and how to effect a changeover from reel to reel – projectors that in those days could only handle reels with about 20 minutes of film. He even showed me how to mend a break in the film by using a splicing device.

I was captivated.

Years later I was able to project both 35mm and 16mm film. All this came back to me while I was watching Last Film Show, a thoroughly delightful film from India.

Nine-year-old Samay (Bahvin Rabari) lives with his parents and younger sister in very poor circumstances in the village of Chalala. Despite its apparent isolation, the village is located on a main railway line, and Samay helps his strictly religious Brahmin father, Bapuji (Dipen Raval), sell chai and other refreshments to passengers when the trains make a brief halt. Samay is surprised and delighted when one day his father announces that the whole family is going to the nearby town’s Galaxy Cinema to see a film – it’s a religious film about the goddess Kali, so that makes it acceptable in Bapuji’s eyes. Little does he realise that, like the boy in Steven Spielberg’s The Fablemans, this first trip to a cinema will prove to be a life-changer for his son.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 7:55 pm

What a great scam.

Meet the owners of PwC’s Indigenous Consulting

Disgraced consultancy PwC’s “Indigenous Consulting” arm — which has been given more than $44 million in Federal Government contracts — is owned by just two people other than PwC itself.

They include former Sydney financial adviser Gavin Brown, who owns 35 per cent of PwC’s Indigenous Consulting through his private company Validus Private Wealth.

It can further be revealed PwC’s Indigenous Consulting, which says it “works together with governments” to “close the gap”, has been given millions of dollars of contracts from the Northern Territory Government, in addition to $44.67m in Federal contracts.

PwC and the National Indigenous Australians Agency (NIAA), which was created by the Morrison Government in 2019 and has given PwC’s Indigenous Consulting more than $16m, have each said PwC’s Indigenous Consulting is “separate” from PwC.

As previously revealed, that’s despite PwC owning 49 per cent of PwC’s Indigenous Consulting, and the company’s address and “principal place of business” being at PwC’s Sydney headquarters.

Investigations show the other 51 per cent is owned by just two people — Brown and former public servant Selwyn Button.

Searches of Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) companies register show the 51 per cent of the company not owned by PwC is owned by a private company called MAAR Investment Holdings — which is owned by Brown and Button.

https://theklaxon.com.au/ztem-62/

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 7:57 pm

H B Bear
Sep 7, 2023 7:50 PM

JC you appalling monopolist. I don’t know how you sleep at night. Although anyone living in Sydney deserves it.

How am I to blame to the original set up? I sleep like a log in my tasseled loafers.

Indolent
Indolent
September 7, 2023 7:58 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 7, 2023 7:59 pm

“Remember, Charlton is an “economist” who lives in Bellevue Hill in the Eastern Suburbs and represents Parramatta – and no, he hasn’t moved there (despite his preposterous and dishonest claims that he has). First time I’d ever had the misfortune to see the smug oleaginous tosser on TV.”

Correct. He’s apparently bought an apartment in Parramatta but wifey refuses to decamp from Bellevue Hill, how very unsurprising. The Parramatta “apartment” is for show. Andrew Charlton, millionaire, is our very own Potemkin MP.

Parramatta is a seat that a half decent Liberal Party could and should win. There are a lot of Indians living in suburbs like Harris Park, which is smack bang in the middle of the electorate. The Liberals should already have someone on the hustings but remember, this is the stupid f*cking Liberals, they are utterly inept, and they’ll probably only find a candidate a month before the federal election, like they did last time. Hopeless.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 7, 2023 7:59 pm

I remember falling asleep under an air hostess- jet lag does funny things to the system

Indolent
Indolent
September 7, 2023 7:59 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 7, 2023 8:01 pm

Is the public service capable of anything beyond morning teas these days without the help of consultants?

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 8:02 pm

Wally Dali
Sep 7, 2023 7:59 PM

I remember falling asleep under an air hostess- jet lag does funny things to the system

Hope she was thin.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 8:05 pm

The national ID system could also be used for voter ID, Indolent. The big problem in the US is that a lot of folks don’t have bank accounts, no social security number, and no license. This is a problem in terms to preventing cheating.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 7, 2023 8:09 pm

I remember falling asleep under an air hostess

Hope it wasn’t a Qantas one – you would have woken up smelling of lavender, pot pourri and denture polish.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 7, 2023 8:09 pm

Townsville Steve.

Mike Carney Toyota fronting onto Duckworth st & Qld TAFE trade training site in Ingham rd Bohle dead give away’s.

Still think Mining Boom was the gold standard though.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 7, 2023 8:10 pm

JC You should buy some tobacco stocks. For the yield and shareholder discounts. And some Aristocrat on the dips.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 7, 2023 8:15 pm

The Liberals should already have someone on the hustings but remember, this is the stupid f*cking Liberals, they are utterly inept, and they’ll probably only find a candidate a month before the federal election, like they did last time. Hopeless.

I think the NSW Lieborals only exist to make the Victoriastani Lieborals look good.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 8:15 pm

JC You should buy some tobacco stocks. For the yield and shareholder discounts. And some Aristocrat on the dips.

I read in the 1990s that Buffet wanted to buy tobacco stocks but couldn’t because it would be considered immoral. He believed that there was no other business on the planet where customers were so devoted to the product and brand that they would die for it.

Cassie of Sydney
September 7, 2023 8:15 pm

Okay, I went to the dentist late this arvo (second visit, went yesterday). He’s put in a temporary filling which is helping with the pain. I’m going to have the tooth removed, and then an implant put in followed by a crown. My sister lectured me on the phone, saying I should just have the tooth pulled, and leave it at that. It’s in a part of my mouth that you can’t see (top middle) but I don’t want to have a tooth missing, I already have days when I feel like Miss Havisham, but I don’t want to look like her!

I’ve got the fee quote!. Whilst today the dentist thankfully relieved me after two nights and two days of crippling agonising pain, and whilst I’ve guzzled panadeine codeine, the pain has caused me to cry, however after reading the fee quote, a different type of pain is now racking me and I’m shedding more tears!

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 8:21 pm

Tooth pain has to be the worst, Cass. Good luck.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 7, 2023 8:24 pm

Great bod for an older woman. There was an extended scene with her walking in the nud, I won’t give it away.

JC, it was a body double for the walk of shame.
From memory it was an eastern European model.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 7, 2023 8:25 pm

Cassie, if you get the tooth pulled won’t they want to wait for it to heal before the implant?
I had a temporary bridge for about 6 months before I got my gap sorted.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 7, 2023 8:26 pm

The ABC carrying water for Stalinist hereditary-MP royalty Yvette Berry and her CFMEU puppeteers:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-07/act-integrity-commission-education-campbell-primary-tender/102827862

They are also turning on the anti-Catholic snark in defence of Calvary Hospital thief and drug advocate Rachel Stephen-Smith (how apt that her intitals are SS). I suspect that Berry and SS are leaking against each other (the school contract for Berry and the sneaky way they slipped drug legalisation through for SS) in the competition among the left to succeed Gay Barr.

cohenite
September 7, 2023 8:27 pm

This dickhead starts getting real mouthy and sanctimonious when the stock price is up. He was dead silent when the stock was in the toilet.

Cannon-Brookes vows to deliver Sun Cable vision

His missus has him by the short and curlies (something similar is happening to twiggy who is acting like a complete loon), but the hirsute bastard has done his damage by screwing AGL, which has already closed Liddell because of him, and while all the attention is now on Origin’s Eraring AGL’s Bayswater, the 2nd biggest in Australia, is getting the CB treatment.

Stock up on candles.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 7, 2023 8:30 pm

When my Weimaraner was as little baby she had a bad habit of being a jack in a box & head butting people.
She got me once so bad in the jaw she cracked a molar.
Which had to be repaired with titanium & then a cap on top.
About 1600.
Geez that dog emptied the wallet.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 7, 2023 8:30 pm

Warren Mundine, by the way, was spot on this morning: the question is not how to reduce the level of Aboriginal incarceration, it’s how to reduce the level of criminal offending.

Stand by for the denunciations of him as a colonialist stooge and a ‘coconut’.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 7, 2023 8:32 pm

Thank goodness she grew out of it around 6 months.
Having a full grown Weimaraner with a habit of head butting would have been hard to live with.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 7, 2023 8:41 pm

Of all the people that Tucker could have interviewed he chose Obama’s former lover.
I think it detracts from Tuckers brand.

cohenite
September 7, 2023 8:43 pm

Of all the people that Tucker could have interviewed he chose Obama’s former lover.
I think it detracts from Tuckers brand.

Well, he couldn’t interview obuma’s current lover because the poor bastard drowned in 6″ of water out front of obuma’s estate at Martha’s Vineyard.

cohenite
September 7, 2023 8:48 pm

Climate scientist admits fudging the data to get published in alarmist journals:

https://www.thefp.com/p/i-overhyped-climate-change-to-get-published

Who’d thunk that scientists had to lick the alarmist arse to get ahead.

Rosie
Rosie
September 7, 2023 8:54 pm

Fluffy pancakes, Japanese style.
Finally tried some at ‘A Happy Pancake’.
Look fanatic but the fluffy pancake tour is over, too strongly of egg tasting.

There are actually a lot of non Japanese options in Tokyo and Kyoto, mostly pizza and pasta, if you ignore other Asian options, but we had Mexican made by Mexicans in Tokyo, very popular with Hispanic Americans, not surprisingly, there was a Macedonian bloke in the Kyoto markets doing souvlaki and we looked at a Hawaiian Burger and Pancake place here but the pancakes were OOT with whipped cream.
Might go rural tomorrow for some green scenes.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 7, 2023 8:55 pm

Further to “gonski”. JC, I walked past that repulsive toad, David Gonski, today.

Just sayin’, if you shredded his flesh, worked into concrete, and made a concrete mould of a smily face, he would come across as a far more positive influence.

Just putting it out there.

132andBush
132andBush
September 7, 2023 8:57 pm

Margery Tyrell for me. Great chassis also.

One thumbs up from me.

And the “F^ck the king!” scene with The Hound and Arya as one of the best scenes.

Rosie
Rosie
September 7, 2023 9:00 pm

Incidentally the summer weather here would see frail elderly dropping like flies without cheap reliable power.
Would be unbearable to live without air-conditioning in these cities.
Occasionally a tiny bent person or two can be seen slowly shuffling down the street.

132andBush
132andBush
September 7, 2023 9:02 pm

I’ve got the fee quote!. Whilst today the dentist thankfully relieved me after two nights and two days of crippling agonising pain, and whilst I’ve guzzled panadeine codeine, the pain has caused me to cry, however after reading the fee quote, a different type of pain is now racking me and I’m shedding more tears!

Cassie,
Did you tick the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander box?

DavidH
DavidH
September 7, 2023 9:02 pm

Lizzie:

There is evidence that six hundred years ago a tsunami came over the top of The Gap.

Out of interest, do you have link(s) to that evidence? When I was doing my geology degree, 3 or 4 years ago, I chose to write an assignment on the tsunami risk to Australia’s east coast. Among papers my research uncovered were quite a few from an academic who – according to numerous others – was finding evidence of tsunamis everywhere that the others considered questionable. I wasn’t and am not informed enough to take a position. It was noted that many such palaeo-tsunamis would now be present, if at all now, far offshore after millenia of sea level rise and there would be limited evidence of more recent ones. I’d like to see what at The Gap reveals such an event.

Megan
Megan
September 7, 2023 9:07 pm

Best of luck, Cassie. I hear you on the implant sticker shock. I needed 4 of them and the inside of my mouth is now worth more than I paid for my first house.

No regrets.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 7, 2023 9:10 pm

I like the cut of this McStay chap’s jib.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 7, 2023 9:13 pm

Victorian truth-telling body using ‘make-believe history’, says Geoffrey Blainey

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Eminent historian Geoffrey Blainey has accused Victoria’s Indigenous “truth-telling” body of drawing upon a “make-believe” version of history in its latest report, arguing claims Aborigines had democratic decision-making processes prior to 1788 are wrong.

The Yoorrook Justice Commission’s report claims Aboriginal Victorians had “collective decision making” at the heart of their societies before the British Empire colonised the land in 1788, and uses this history as a basis for its calls for “decision-making power, authority, control and resources” in both the child protection and criminal justice systems to be transferred to Indigenous Victorians.

But Professor Blainey says the commission is ignoring the authoritarian and at times violent nature of relations between Indigenous groups, suggesting their version of history is closer to the views of Anthony Albanese and Dark Emu author Bruce Pascoe than those of historians. The commission said the report had been produced after “12 months of intensive research and evidence gathering”, while Professor Pascoe said he had never claimed there had been no violence in ­Aboriginal society.

Yoorrook’s report on Victoria’s child protection and criminal justice systems, published on Monday, states: “Before European invasion, First Peoples were independent and governed by collective decision-making processes with shared kinship, language and culture. They belonged to and were custodians of defined areas of country.”

Professor Blainey said “many scholars” disagreed with this view. “The idea that Aboriginals practised ‘collective decision making’ comes from Bruce Pascoe and our Prime Minister. Their belief that Aboriginals invented democracy 80,000 years ago is make-believe,” the University of Melbourne emeritus professor said.

“Traditional Aboriginal society tended to be authoritarian, and far from democratic. My book, The Story of Australia’s People: the Rise and Fall of Ancient Australia, discusses the kind of historical ­errors which are now embodied in the Yoorrook verdicts.”

The book won a Prime Minister’s Literary Award in 2016.

Professor Blainey said many experts also disagreed with Yoorrook’s claim that “the systemic racism which persists today has its origins in colonial systems and institutions”.

“There is plenty of evidence that Aboriginal tribes or ‘nations’ thought that they were innately superior to their neighbours,” Professor Blainey said.

He cited a reference in his preface to Triumph of the Nomads to an Indigenous Victorian “meeting a black tribe living only 100 miles away” in the 1840s, and commenting “They are foreign in speech, they are foreign in countenance, they are foreign altogether – they are no good”.

“Brutal warfare existed between Aboriginal peoples, but it is not even mentioned in this week’s edict. Victoria was not the Garden of Eden before 1788, nor after 1788,” Professor Blainey said.

“Of course, Aboriginal societies had some impressive achievements as well as failures.” Professor McGrath said it was a “shame” that Professor Blainey “has turned away from the conclusions of his path-breaking book, the Triumph of the Nomads, which celebrated the myriad achievements of Indigenous Australia prior to European invasion”.

Bruce Pascoe or Geoffrey Blainey – I know who I’d believe and it isn’t Bruce Pascoe.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 7, 2023 9:15 pm

Mate had a Scottish Deerhound. Blokes loved it. Give it a pat, head goes down, stop patting it, head straight up into the goulies. Only ever patted it standing beside it. Beautiful breed of dog.

cohenite
September 7, 2023 9:21 pm

There is evidence that six hundred years ago a tsunami came over the top of The Gap.

Out of interest, do you have link(s) to that evidence?

Krakatoa sent a Tsunami through Sydney harbour. Sahul Time, an interactive graph put out by Monash Uni shows that over the last 30000 years sea level around the East Coast of Australia has varied by 135 meters:

http://temporalearth.org/

cohenite
September 7, 2023 9:24 pm

The Sahul Time interactive graph is here:

https://users.monash.edu.au/~mcoller/SahulTime/

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 7, 2023 9:26 pm

Pedant’s corner, but can we stop using that fashionable piece of mindlessness ‘lived experience’? What other kind of experience is there?

Cassie of Sydney
September 7, 2023 9:31 pm

Krakatoa sent a Tsunami through Sydney harbour”

Umm…not sure about that. I know Krakatoa caused waves to hit Western Australia, but Sydney? The Krakatoa eruption did cause higher waves than normal, even as far as the English Channel but a tsunami?

A tsunami did hit Sydney in 1960, caused by an earthquake off the coast of Chile.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 9:33 pm

Well, he couldn’t interview obuma’s current lover because the poor bastard drowned in 6? of water out front of obuma’s estate at Martha’s Vineyard.

Huh. I read about the interview but didn’t put the two stories together. He could’ve been pillow biting.

cohenite
September 7, 2023 9:38 pm

Krakatoa sent a Tsunami through Sydney harbour”

Umm…not sure about that.

http://www.bom.gov.au/tsunami/history/index.shtml

This was Krakatoa’s 2nd rodeo. The first eruption in ~ 535 AD caused the Dark Ages. The next time should finish the human race. If people are worried about that, rocks from space and volcanoes are the things to worry about.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 7, 2023 9:40 pm

Pedant’s corner, but can we stop using that fashionable piece of mindlessness ‘lived experience’? What other kind of experience is there?

That’s derogatory to zombies. Shame on you!!

Rosie
Rosie
September 7, 2023 9:40 pm

The drowned was married with children.
Deep under the covers?

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 9:44 pm

an interactive graph put out by Monash Uni shows that over the last 30000 years sea level around the East Coast of Australia has varied by 135 meters:

You can see that in real life in Portsea. There used to be a beach along side the Portsea pier. It’s now sand bagged.

Lindsay Fox owns a slab of the cliff front and there were jetties fronting the beach backing on the number of homes he owns.. The jetties are now marooned 30 meters from the shoreline. He deserves it though as he’s a Liars party trough sniveler.

Cassie of Sydney
September 7, 2023 9:44 pm

“cohenite
Sep 7, 2023 9:38 PM”

Interesting, thanks.

I’m rather obsessed with volcanoes.

John H.
John H.
September 7, 2023 9:46 pm

“There is plenty of evidence that Aboriginal tribes or ‘nations’ thought that they were innately superior to their neighbours,” Professor Blainey said.

That is a recurring theme in anthropology. We human, tribe over the hill is inferior. It is not surprising given the way humans claim superiority because of their beleifs, nation, or political allegiance. There is nothing unusual about groups of humans claiming to be best of the species. Politicians exploit that all the time. “Best country in the world!” Blah blah blah.

All the anthropology arguments in Australia are typically driven by those who have no interest in anthropology except for political polemical purposes. The more we learn about paleoanthropology at the global level the more obvious it becomes that the Australian debate is naive, dishonest if not unapologetically propagandistic.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 9:48 pm

If people are worried about that, rocks from space and volcanoes are the things to worry about.

How often do rocks hit the earth? Big ones.

That’s the only thing that has worried me a little. The world has spent literally trillions and trillions of dollars on what essentially is a hoax while the real threat is a huge rock for which we have spent next to no money to defend against.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 9:51 pm

Didn’t a decent size rock hit far eastern Russia in the latter 20s?

132andBush
132andBush
September 7, 2023 9:54 pm
JC
JC
September 7, 2023 9:57 pm

Maybe not a meteor.

But even worse, imagine you’re Wolfgang waiting for a flight, your name gets called out, it’s full flight and everyone’s waiting.

Though scientific consensus is that the Tunguska explosion was caused by the impact of a small asteroid, there are some dissenters. Astrophysicist Wolfgang Kundt has proposed that the Tunguska event was caused by the release and subsequent explosion of 10 million tons of natural gas from within the Earth’s crust.

John H.
John H.
September 7, 2023 9:58 pm

JC
Sep 7, 2023 9:48 PM
If people are worried about that, rocks from space and volcanoes are the things to worry about.

How often do rocks hit the earth? Big ones.

That’s the only thing that has worried me a little. The world has spent literally trillions and trillions of dollars on what essentially is a hoax while the real threat is a huge rock for which we have spent next to no money to defend against.

It isn’t about money. It is about physics. Ya canna break the laws of physics captn. Plenty of simulations JC. Many studies on the issue. Look it up, I found one questionable site that proposed 8 different strategies being explored.

Dot
Dot
September 7, 2023 9:59 pm

Tunguska JC, 1908.

Possibly 3 – 30 MT blast.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:01 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 7, 2023 10:02 pm
JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:05 pm

John H

This was years ago. I read that there was thinking we could stick a nuke in a rocket and blow the thing up.

But here’s the thing though. It does become a question of money because ultimately investment would make it possible.

If we spent a 1/3 of the money we have on gerbiling bullshit we’d be closer to having some defence against being hit by a rock.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 7, 2023 10:06 pm

Rosie

Sep 7, 2023 8:54 PM

Fluffy pancakes, Japanese style.
Finally tried some at ‘A Happy Pancake’.
Look fanatic but the fluffy pancake tour is over, too strongly of egg tasting

Haven’t done fluffy pancake yet.
Took a random chance on a restaurant in Hiroshima tonight.
Used my selection technique of checking if locals patronise the place.
Biggest, freshest oysters.
Platter of sashimi which was fantastic (salmon, tuna and some unidentified sweet white fish).
Slices of sea bream over rice, with a mandarin/green tea broth.
Various grilled skewers.
Mmmmm.
The place filled up with a wide cross-section of locals. Four older ladies up the front. A middle aged man taking mum out for dinner. Groups of salary men chugging beers and sake. Young couples. We were the only Westerners in the place.
Next thing, the Japanese guy at the end of the bar shouts us a couple of local treats … a huge radish in a bowl of broth and raw beef sushi.
Very good, truth be told.
I must say, it’s the first time someone has shouted me a radish.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 7, 2023 10:07 pm

Oh my lordy.

That last quarter was intense.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:09 pm

Kundt is the obvious work around the banned word. Perhaps to blunt the edges, even Wolfgang would
work.

John H.
John H.
September 7, 2023 10:09 pm

JC
Sep 7, 2023 10:05 PM
John H

This was years ago. I read that there was thinking we could stick a nuke in a rocket and blow the thing up.

But here’s the thing though. It does become a question of money because ultimately investment would make it possible.

If we spent a 1/3 of the money we have on gerbiling bullshit we’d be closer to having some defence against being hit by a rock.

Sure, just like the gazillions of dollars have cured cancer, diabetes, cvd, etc etc.
Who’s going to invest in something that has no pay off for them?

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:10 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Sep 7, 2023 10:07 PM
Oh my lordy.

That last quarter was intense.

Yeah, a real Wolfgang of a quarter.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 7, 2023 10:14 pm

Hiroshima is surprisingly good.
I mean, most people come for the dome, the memorials etc, but the gardens and parks are something else.
Shukkeien gardens are just magnificent.
I know it is a long time, but only one tree in the gardens survived the bomb. It is now lush and green with masses of established pines, maples, bamboo and an ornamental lake stocked with turtles, perch and obese carp.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:15 pm

Sure, just like the gazillions of dollars have cured cancer, diabetes, cvd, etc etc.
Who’s going to invest in something that has no pay off for them?

That’s the real role of government. The payoff could even be a huge bonus for hitting the target. Pun intended.

John, we’re talking about extinction here and the payoff to humanity would be infinite. I appreciate the risk is tiny, but the fat tail is freaking huge.

Muddy
Muddy
September 7, 2023 10:23 pm

Sublime music. Close your eyes.

2 Cellos – With or Without You.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:25 pm

Mud

Just saying, but the eye closing thingi is a little on the gay side.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 7, 2023 10:36 pm

John, we’re talking about extinction here and the payoff to humanity would be infinite.

The event that’s going to drive the human race to extinction has already happened. The invention of the sexbot. They only need to be improved slightly and get cheaper. A bit of AI to get them groaning in fake ecstasy, and no male will have any interest in sex with another human being. Real women are too expensive in time and money.

Shortly after, humanity disappears from the planet. The dolphins may miss us, briefly.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:43 pm

Doc, you don’t think Brave New World is possible whereby kids are nurtured in test tubes? That’s just not possible but also quite likely.

Humans can be stupid creatures as we’re currently witnessing with stupid shit like the trillions being spent on something that could actually be be beneficial to humanity: the earth warming a little. However, there is also dazzling brilliance demonstrated at times and humanity is worth keeping just for this alone.

If a sex boot looks exactly like my fave celeb.. Michelle Pfeiffer.. then why not, right?

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 7, 2023 10:50 pm

Sublime music. Close your eyes.

Very nice sounds, Muddy. You are right, the visuals are distracting. JC thinks looking at two blokes trying to look soulful is less gay than shutting them out. Perhaps he’s deaf.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 7, 2023 10:53 pm

Doc, you don’t think Brave New World is possible whereby kids are nurtured in test tubes? That’s just not possible but also quite likely.

Who’s going to fund it, and why?

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:55 pm

Doc
Don’t look, but you don’t have to close your eyes.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 10:58 pm

Who’s going to fund it, and why?

Women’s desire to have children is insatiable. Women would certainly fund it.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 7, 2023 11:01 pm

All positive. Headphones are on and cranking!

Mark Petrie – Artemis (EXTENDED Remix by Kiko10061980) Reupload

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 11:01 pm

The beginnings of test tube children has begun and continuing in China.

John H.
John H.
September 7, 2023 11:02 pm

JC
Sep 7, 2023 10:15 PM
Sure, just like the gazillions of dollars have cured cancer, diabetes, cvd, etc etc.
Who’s going to invest in something that has no pay off for them?

That’s the real role of government. The payoff could even be a huge bonus for hitting the target. Pun intended.

John, we’re talking about extinction here and the payoff to humanity would be infinite. I appreciate the risk is tiny, but the fat tail is freaking huge.

JC I think you are underestimating how much work is going on in this area. From GPT:

One of the most recent attempts to send a projectile to intercept a meteor was NASA’s DART mission, which successfully hit its target asteroid on Monday, September 26, 2022. DART stands for Double Asteroid Redirection Test and it was the world’s first planetary defense technology demonstration1. The mission aimed to deflect the orbit of a small asteroid moon called Dimorphos, which orbits a larger asteroid called Didymos. Neither of these asteroids poses a threat to Earth, but they were chosen as a test case for the kinetic impact technique, which involves colliding a spacecraft with an asteroid to change its trajectory. DART was launched on November 24, 2021 from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California and traveled for 10 months in space before reaching its target. It impacted Dimorphos at a speed of about 15,000 mph (24,000 kph) and altered its orbit around Didymos by about 1%, or roughly 10 minutes1. Scientists will use ground-based telescopes to measure the exact change in Dimorphos’ orbit and learn more about the effectiveness of this method for planetary defense.

John H.
John H.
September 7, 2023 11:04 pm

JC
Sep 7, 2023 11:01 PM
The beginnings of test tube children has begun and continuing in China.

Which will accelerate the development of genetically engineered humans. Might be the only thing that saves us from ourselves.

John H.
John H.
September 7, 2023 11:06 pm
DavidH
DavidH
September 7, 2023 11:12 pm

Regarding the Krakatau (aka the misspelled Krakatoa) tsunami, below is a report from the SMH in 1883 recording the arrival of the residual wave in Sydney Harbour, much diminished of course but still notable. A tsunami wave affects the whole water column, unlike wind-driven waves that affect the upper portion of the sea. It was known to be related to the Krakatau eruption thanks to the recently completed telegraph link, unlike the (earlier and larger) Tambora eruption in 1815 which went largely unnoticed by the wider world.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13543605

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 11:15 pm

John

I’m not up to date on it although it’s not surprising the research is going on. But we’re not there yet in terms of blowing the thing up or altering direction. We should’ve been there a while ago and we’re still vulnerable.

The point I’m making is that we’re wasting ginormous amounts of money on the crackpot theory that gerbil warming will kill humanity in 2200 on some such date. Eminent scientist, Greta, believes it happen sooner: in 4.5 years.

Resources are limited and we’re wasting both income and wealth on something that’s a essentially a hoax. I don’t think anthropogenic warming a hoax, but the solutions most certainly are. That is if “solutions” are needed at all.

As far as risks go, a rock hitting us at great speed would be more of a deal killer than gerbiling.

JC
JC
September 7, 2023 11:23 pm

Which will accelerate the development of genetically engineered humans. Might be the only thing that saves us from ourselves.

I once read an amusing article on genetically modifying humans. The author pondered whether gals would choose a very brilliant geek or a child who would grow up to be a good-looking jock with high IQ. You couldn’t have it both ways. The author believes Sheila would choose the latter without hesitation.

Indolent
Indolent
September 7, 2023 11:26 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 7, 2023 11:34 pm

This was the bloke filming. So many have stolen his footage without attribution.

The shit hit the fan later on.

Martin Rietze:

Krakatau at night

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 7, 2023 11:36 pm

Interesting paper analysing tsunami wave action as the cause of boulder deposit inland in NSW:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/30389231_Catastrophic_wave_tsunami_transport_of_boulders_in_southern_New_South_Wales_Australia

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 8, 2023 12:08 am

I like the cut of this McStay chap’s jib

Aye. The jib of Hoskin-Elliott was questioned. He answered on the highest plane.
Long live Collingwood

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 8, 2023 12:12 am

And did JC beforehand slam Collingwood? Mmm I suspect, I suspect!
(HT District Attorney Ferguson)

John H.
John H.
September 8, 2023 12:18 am

JC
Sep 7, 2023 11:23 PM
Which will accelerate the development of genetically engineered humans. Might be the only thing that saves us from ourselves.

I once read an amusing article on genetically modifying humans. The author pondered whether gals would choose a very brilliant geek or a child who would grow up to be a good-looking jock with high IQ. You couldn’t have it both ways. The author believes Sheila would choose the latter without hesitation.

IQ is declining, some argue for 50 years. Women will go for the good looking high IQ jock but the big breakthroughs, the work of genius, has a significant amount of geekiness involved. Fortunately women also go for those types but my impression, only that, is that the smarter the person the less children. Unfortunately we are now going dysgenic. Higher rates of cancer, diabetes, autoimmunity, infertility, cardiovascular disease, disabilities in general are increasing because only 2 generations ago most were denied the opportunity to reproduce and now so many are saved at birth(many societies abandoned the seriously disabled). These are longstanding trends and for the most part no-one has any idea why all of it is happening. There was even a recent report that the male chromosome is disappearing. That has happened to a species of rat but that species got lucky because of a gene change that allows the female to male switch to happen. We might not be so lucky. Just tonight I watched a Scifi series which was about a species with an inherent genetic flaw that meant over generations their genome deteriorates, guaranteeing their doom.

“The human Y is in the very last stages of degeneration, and the big question is how long till it, too, gets lost, and what will happen when it does. If it goes on degenerating at the same rate it has over the last 150 million years, it has only a few million years to go,” Graves said.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 8, 2023 12:19 am

Classics!

Superwog:

Real Estate Agents

John H.
John H.
September 8, 2023 12:31 am

Steve trickler
Sep 8, 2023 12:19 AM
Classics!

Superwog:

Real Estate Agents

Thanks Steve, haven’t seen that one.

I enjoyed the series.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 8, 2023 1:03 am

Even the left now calling out ‘elite’ grip on voice to parliament

CLAIRE LEHMANN

Much like other social media platforms, Reddit forums in Australia skew to the young and to the left.

With the average age of a Reddit user estimated at 23, it’s no surprise that political discussions often lean towards green-left perspectives. Nevertheless, recent discussions about the upcoming voice referendum have revealed a surprising mix of viewpoints within this demographic.

And what is intriguing is the number of individuals expressing a No stance for reasons that do not neatly align with traditional or conservative ideals.

“What a waste of time and money. Voting NO on this nonsense. Imagine if they put $364m into social services in Alice Springs,” wrote one commenter in r/AusFinance, a subreddit of nearly half a million members engaged in discussions about financial issues in Australia.

“Weird how every corporation is pushing yes. Drove past a rich area with no Aboriginal people and every second house has a yes sign nailed to their gate,” wrote another.

Although the left-wing No voter is a real phenomenon, their perspective has largely been missing from our media, with prominent No voices associated with the right side of politics. But not everyone who opposes the voice identifies as right-wing.

“I’m a leftist Aboriginal, and I have a lot of issues with this,” wrote one commenter in r/Australia, a forum of 1.4 million members, “Stop dividing us. We are one country.”

Much of the conversation in these popular online forums has focused on the perceived disjuncture of hosting a referendum during a cost-of-living crisis. “This won’t get over the line,” wrote a user. “The timing of it is so shockingly bad. People can’t afford to buy groceries or find suitable places to live, but this is top of mind for the government?”

Left-leaning No voters do not appear to oppose the voice because they are diehard constitutional conservatives, or because they lack compassion. It’s not about being racist either. Their frustration stems from the perception that the Labor government is not adequately addressing the issues that matter to them most, and is instead focusing on the higher-order matter of constitutional change.

When figures such as Malcolm and Lucy Turnbull take selfies with Allegra Spender and Tanya Plibersek in support of the Yes campaign, it sends a message to ordinary Australians that, regardless of party lines, they belong to the same economic club.

That club is the urban, professional, asset-owning club that is very comfortable and cosy on the inside but, for those standing on the outside looking in, appears smug, self-congratulatory and exclusive.

This week, for example, a three-bedroom house situated on less than a quarter-acre of land within Spender’s (formerly Turnbull’s) electorate sold for $7.8m. To put that in perspective, the average pre-tax salary in Australia stands at $90,800. That means a modest dwelling on a small plot of land just sold for 85 times the national average wage.

In the context of promoting “social justice”, it is fair to ask what these politicians have done to address land availability and housing supply.

If such elected officials are unable to alleviate the challenges faced by regular Australian families today, how will they help Indigenous Australians tomorrow? And what material difference will a voice make? Those who are struggling are entitled to know.

The fact that corporate Australia is overwhelmingly in support of the voice simply furthers the perception that it is primarily a concern of elites.

“I won’t be swayed either by bullshit corporate activism endorsing a Yes vote by Qantas, Coles, the AFL, or any number of billion-dollar companies that couldn’t give a rat’s arse about everyday Aussies, Indigenous Aussies included,” wrote one commenter in r/Australia.

“More than 1600 people are becoming homeless each month in Australia,” wrote another. “Imagine being one of those people … And then remember you voted for (Prime Minister Anthony Albanese) based on his campaigning around the little guy and him being in social housing … And all he has done is harp on about the voice.”

The fissures within the left over the referendum today reflect broader fissures that are affecting left-of-centre parties around the world. Described by Thomas Piketty as the “Brahmin Left”, the highly educated, urban-professional classes who now dominate left-wing parties – including the ALP – have interests that are at times in conflict with their traditional blue-collar base.

Yet although Labor’s shift towards representing the Brahmin Left is largely irreversible, many of the old emotional associations with the underdog and the working classes remain. Therefore Labor must take extra care in order to avoid alienating those who are struggling, particularly during times of economic hardship. For this reason, the voice referendum should have been postponed.

Ultimately, left-wing No voters may end up deciding the voice’s fate. But more than that, they may also come to determine the length of the current government’s tenure.

“The number one issue in our country at the moment is housing and the cost of living,” as one commenter put it. “The government is out of touch.”

Oz

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
September 8, 2023 1:37 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 8, 2023 3:25 am

I must say JC, Michelle Pfiffer does scrub up extremely well,but have you heard her in interviews, dumb as box of rocks.

Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 4:23 am

In the days after she died, our own Dr Duk told us he suspected this:

QUEEN ELIZABETH WAS DIAGNOSED WITH BONE CANCER BEFORE DEATH, SOURCE REVEALS

RTWT

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 8, 2023 5:10 am

Jimmy Dore very disappointed with Cornel West.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 8, 2023 5:15 am

Seymour Hersh has a column out on Prigozhin.
ZeroHedge usually picks these up same day.
It’s paywalled so can not post apart from the introduction.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 8, 2023 5:23 am

Interesting church experience here in Galaxidi…

We drove through mountainous region and wonderful gorges down to the coast. We then left the Peloponnese peninsula over a terrific French-built bridge (13 Euros per car!). Galaxidi is a naval/sea-faring town – Mrs TE says “just gorgeous”. Old mansions line the harbourfront.

One particularly interesting aspect of a local church was a sun-clock. It was a Greek Orthodox – one of three in a town of 1,700 people – and particularly well decorated with friezes and carvings, such decorations being paid for by local shipping families. But one captain, home from the seas, paid for a sun-clock to be fitted into the floor and roof of the church.

You can make out the portal for the sun in in the roof above – a sort of channel cut through the rock. Its beams hit the floor at midday, along an 11 metre line inscribed into the stone of the floor. Each day the beam of light moves along the track, which is divided into months and days. Eventually at the winter solstice the beam of light starts tracking back again. Very much along the lines of The Da Vinci Code film.

The deacon who showed us, very enthusiastically, around the church, also had a shot on his mobile phone of a day last November when the light hit the right date at 1200.

Very interesting.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 8, 2023 5:33 am

Cornel West DISMISSES Harm Done By Covid Lockdowns & Vaccine Mandates!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdPFqvDKEBI

It would be good if all presidential candidates were roasted like this.
Imagine Hannity doing this to Trump.
Or Maddow doing this to Biden.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 8, 2023 6:15 am

Tulsi on Joe Rogan.
Brings a very stable voice to Maui aftermath.
Tulsi has repeatedly said the Pacific fleet is partially deployed at the drop of a hat for regional humanitarian issues.
But when there is a natural disaster a couple of islands over, effectively nothing.

JC
JC
September 8, 2023 6:47 am

GreyRanga Avatar
GreyRanga
Sep 8, 2023 3:25 AM
I must say JC, Michelle Pfiffer does scrub up extremely well,but have you heard her in interviews, dumb as box of rocks.

And that’s a show stopper? Ranga, who cares. She’s a tenner.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 7:13 am

Mega-tsunami evidence – here’s a paper linking aboriginal myths to Sydney sub-strates and another on dispersion due to tsunamis.

Cassie of Sydney
September 8, 2023 7:25 am

“Muslims in India need to emigrate.”

They can always go to Pakistan, or Bangladesh, both founded as Muslim countries.

Pakistan is Muslim shithole where Hindus, Christian and Sikhs are attacked and persecuted. perhaps there can be a a population swap?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 7:25 am

Link fail – here’s the aboriginal myths and tsunami one.

I have read in some local history about dispersed substrate relating to The Gap in Sydney circa 600 years ago, but can’t see it online. It was said to be due to a massive landslide into the ocean in Chile. Dispersal requires a lot of detail work, as the first linked article above shows. It tells of a 40metre overflow due to a tsunami which is well recorded on this eastern coast. Smaller tsunamis have caused tidal withdrawal and a swift inflow bore historically on the east coast; BOM have a chart of these.

duncanm
duncanm
September 8, 2023 7:27 am

Tom
Sep 8, 2023 4:00 AM
John Spooner.

Spooner has nailed Chalmers — the inflatable doll.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 7:28 am

There’s a part of the coastline on Tasmania’s west coast where there are what look like an unbroken line of aboriginal middens of shells all along the beach ridges; these may be in part individual middens dispersed and washed up again by tsunamis. There a lot we don’t know still about our coastlines.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 8, 2023 7:35 am

Believe All Women news (the Tele):

A businessman from Sydney’s eastern suburbs, who spent three weeks in jail on remand after being charged with striking his girlfriend, was released on bail after a court was shown CCTV footage of the incident.

Marco Furia, 42, had been refused bail when he appeared in Waverley Magistrates Court on June 20 charged with two counts of assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

Police alleged that Furia punched and knocked Rossella Veraldi unconscious.

Nasty, nasty man. Oh, wait:

About two weeks later his lawyer, Paul McGirr, was supplied with CCTV after he asked the police to obtain the footage from the Bondi apartment block where the alleged incident took place.

In the 25-minute CCTV footage obtained by the Telegraph, it shows Ms Veraldi repeatedly grabbing Furia from behind and trying to drag him from the foyer before he spins, hitting her with his elbow.

She then falls to the ground and is later seen sitting outside the complex in her bra and jeans after removing her top. A passer-by called the police and Furia was arrested.

This better not be another example of chick-believery at the expense of actual events that somehow made it to court despite the jacks not conducting basic investigations….

“The footage totally contradicts the fact sheet,’’ Mr McGirr said.

“My client was never the aggressor and nowhere is it stated that Ms Veraldi repeatedly got physical with him, which is clearly visible.”

Ah. Yes, yes it was another one of those.

Furia said he was determined to defend the matter to protect his reputation.

“My client spent weeks in jail, his business nearly collapsed and if not for the CCTV footage would most likely still be there and the truth may not have ever come out,” Mr McGirr said.

I would suggest it is now a big fat payday for Mr Furia once these horseshit charges are withdrawn (which they will be), and fair enough too.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 8, 2023 7:37 am

Pakistan is Muslim shithole where Hindus, Christian and Sikhs are attacked and persecuted. perhaps there can be a a population swap?

They tried that in 1947 during the Partition. Over a million people were killed.

Still, they got it all out of the way at once.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 7:38 am

Each day the beam of light moves along the track, which is divided into months and days. Eventually at the winter solstice the beam of light starts tracking back again. Very much along the lines of The Da Vinci Code film.

Both things also relating I suggest to some very deeply embedded Indo-European comprehensions about ‘catching’ the last rays of the winter solstice in some deistic ritual – as we see in the Bru Na Boyne ancient monument in Ireland and many other Neolithic sites with similar ‘catching’ architecture.

So interesting to hear of your travels, Top Ender. Smart Cats on holidays looking out for history and nuance can return far more perceptive accounts than the usual travel routines offered by rellies and friends.

Rosie
Rosie
September 8, 2023 7:42 am

Dickie Arbiter — Elizabeth’s spokesman from 1988 until 2000 — scoffed at the assertion, and he rejected the idea that she died due to the disease.

Not an original thought by the way, the claim regarding painful bone cancer was circulating for a while before the Queens’s death.
Why would it be a secret, if true?
Just another bunch of grifters fanning the flames to get more eyeballs.

Rosie
Rosie
September 8, 2023 7:46 am

It’s interesting that many Muslims decided to stay in India but very few others stayed in Pakistan.
14% of the Indian population.
It’s just Hindu jingoism.
Don’t bring it to Australia.

duncanm
duncanm
September 8, 2023 7:51 am

So WTF did the police themselves not pull the CCTV footage for that alleged assault? Talk about ‘believe and don’t even bother checking’!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 7:53 am

Ah. Yes, yes it was another one of those.

Sadly, there was no CCTV around in Perth WA when my son’s ex-partner hit out violently at him in a psychotic rage while he was seated and nowhere near her, grabbed their child aged two, and ran screaming down the hallway of a motel claiming he had hit her. I was present and saw it all, but who would believe his mother? This psychotic woman then persuaded a feminist refuge to support her custody case re the child. It took two years, much trauma to the child due to her psychotic episodes and her druggie associates, and a huge amount of anguish for my son to clear his name (she finally admitted she’d lied in order to try to keep custody) and have full custody awarded to him.

Do NOT believe all women.

Crossie
Crossie
September 8, 2023 7:54 am

Has anyone seen the ad on TV for Krapof power washer? One of the speakers sounds exactly like Malcolm Turnbull. Who said ad makers no longer have a sense of humour?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 8, 2023 7:55 am

The Hindu vibe I’ve picked up in India.
Christians are only driven to succeed and don’t share.
Muslims think everybody should work for them.
Sikhs are only loyal to Sikhs.

Crossie
Crossie
September 8, 2023 8:03 am

duncanm
Sep 8, 2023 7:51 AM
So WTF did the police themselves not pull the CCTV footage for that alleged assault? Talk about ‘believe and don’t even bother checking’!

Our police officers would learn more about investigation by reading Agatha Christie books than attending whatever passes for police education these days.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 8:04 am

Hairy, in disgust at what our universities have become, emailed me Bettina Arndt’s account of the work her group are doing to stand up for young men facing university Kangaroo Courts over false accusations of supposed ‘sexual touching’ which they, bewildered, strongly deny. Sometimes the accusers are ex-girlfriends. Some of these young men are Asian international students who are then dismissed from the university and have to seek proper justice elsewhere, in great personal and financial distress. All of them, Asian or local, have been given no credible justice in what amounts to modern ‘show trials’ in our woke institutions of learning. As past academics and alumni, both of us are horrified by what is being done here.

Bettina seeks funding for this work. A very worthy cause.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:09 am

Our police officers would learn more about investigation by reading Agatha Christie books than attending whatever passes for police education these days.

Plonk them down before a few episodes of Midsomer Murders:

“Jones, check for any CCTV footage.”

Crossie
Crossie
September 8, 2023 8:09 am

I believe very few women who spout accusations at the drop of a hat. One young woman I know who is prone to hysterical outbursts even called the police on her own brother who merely tried to calm her down during one of her episodes by simply holding her still. He was trying to prevent her from hurting herself.

By the way, the highly strung women tend to be pretty and may think they can get away with it as a consequence. I haven’t seen any plain looking drama queens.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 8, 2023 8:09 am

Too cheap to meter news.

Auction fails to secure bids for offshore wind farms (7 Sep)

No new offshore wind farms are expected to have been bid for in a government auction this week, in a significant blow to the government’s clean energy ambitions.

Ministers are scheduled to announce tomorrow the winners in their annual auction of financial support contracts for renewable energy projects.

A number of sources have told The Times they understood the auction had failed to procure any big new offshore wind farms, after the government ignored repeated industry warnings that support on offer was too low to reflect soaring inflation.

Even with massive subsidies the financials of offshore wind projects still doesn’t make sense. And the UK has rather better offshore wind speeds than most places. Good luck Mr Bowen in getting projects up here.

shatterzzz
September 8, 2023 8:09 am

Gotta luv the 3 day news cycle (except for the VOICE, of course) .. LOL! ..
Last week wall to wall homeless/build houses/rents thru roof stories .. today Mail Online one story (tucked away mid page) .. total! .. about a $300 a week rent increase in SA …..
They (gummints all!) know if they let things run without too much comment the media will lose interest quite quickly …. FFS!

calli
calli
September 8, 2023 8:13 am

Thanks for the traveller’s tales TE. Those astronomical clocks interest me also. In the last few hours, we’ve had volcanoes, tsunamis and heavenly timepieces.

All, incidentally, woven in to Tolkien’s tales, LOTR, Silmarillion and Hobbit respectively.

As he drew from ancient folk tales from far and wide but mostly scandi, we can assume that such events and objects sit deep within human hearts and memory. Little wonder these fascinate us. There’s something magnetic about stories of objects trawled up from the drowned world around the Med, for instance.

Crossie
Crossie
September 8, 2023 8:15 am

Roger
Sep 8, 2023 8:09 AM
Our police officers would learn more about investigation by reading Agatha Christie books than attending whatever passes for police education these days.

Plonk them down before a few episodes of Midsomer Murders:

“Jones, check for any CCTV footage.”

I love that series and have the first 12 seasons on DVD. There are a few favourite episodes that I watch again and again. I think every actor and actress in UK appeared in the series at one time or another, some even several times. Even Suzi Quatro was in it.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 8, 2023 8:16 am

Victoria’s Yoorrook Commission biased from the beginning
CHRIS MERRITT

The most regrettable aspect of this week’s report by Victoria’s Yoorrook Justice Commission is its biased attempt to rewrite Indigenous history and portray it as “truth-telling”.

The fact that this commission found that Aborigines had been subjected to injustice was no surprise. That is exactly what the state government told it to find when it presented the commission with the letters patent in 2021.

That skewed foundation forms the basis for something far more dubious: a proposal by Yoorrook to wind back equality before the law by establishing a separate Indigenous-controlled and Indigenous-designed system of child protection and criminal justice for young people.
This would set a terrible precedent.

If it is acceptable for Indigenous people to control and design parts of the justice system to suit themselves, how long will it be before other groups start asking for the same treatment?

This is not the first time equality before the law has been under threat. But it is one of the most serious challenges to this doctrine.

It questions the legitimacy not just of Australian law, but of Australia itself.

This is what Yoorrook says about criminal justice: “The present-day criminal justice and child protection systems are deeply rooted in the colonial foundations of the state of Victoria. Australia is a settler colony, meaning the colonisers ‘come to stay’ …

“Colonisation, as implemented by colonial and later Victorian state authorities, created the structure, systems and conditions under which first peoples continue to be subjected to harm and systemic injustice.”

This seems to be asserting some sort of race-based entitlement to make and apply laws that is superior to the democratic legitimacy of laws based on universal franchise.

There is only one way to deal with this lunacy and that is to follow the example of former federal attorney-general Robert McClelland.

Twelve years ago, McClelland was faced with a push for “legal pluralism” from the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils. It wanted Australian law to recognise elements of sharia law.

“If there is any inconsistency between cultural values and the rule of law then Australian law wins out,” said McClelland who is now Deputy Chief Justice of the Federal Circuit and Family Court.

Yoorrook’s call for a separate system of juvenile justice for Indigenous children should be rejected, not only because it erodes the principle of equal treatment, but because it rests on a flawed foundation and would entrench racial division.
This commission’s letters patent did not ask this commission to investigate whether Aborigines had been subjected to injustice. The existence of injustice was simply assumed.

Nor did the letters patent instruct the commission to provide a balanced picture of the Indigenous history of Victoria. It was told by the state government to find systemic injustice – and that is exactly what it did.

The first objective in the letters patent instructed the commission to “establish an official public record based on first people’s experiences of systemic injustice since the start of colonisation”.

This explains why the picture that emerges from this report is so one dimensional.

All Australians, particularly those with convict forebears, are fully aware that bad things happened in colonial times. But that is not the full story of this country’s people.

If Yoorrook had been allowed to consider the full history of Indigenous Victoria – the good and the bad – this report’s tale of unending woe might have been more nuanced and could even have carried some weight.

But that was not to be. Instead, a narrative of victimhood was set in train from the very beginning.
This report casts no light on the question of whether Indigenous people have benefited in any way from the introduction of concepts such as the rule of law, democracy, equality of citizenship and the suppression of traditional forms of punishment.

That would have meant going beyond the monotonous tale of grievance and giving Indigenous people a balanced picture of what has been gained and lost over the past 200 years.

This would have meant confronting the harsh reality of pre-colonial life and making an informed assessment of whether the lives of Indigenous people have improved.

In a recent book on the voice referendum, Indigenous leader Bess Price is uncompromising in her criticism of elites who imagine what pre-colonial life was like for Indigenous people.

“They romanticise it, creating what I call a Disneyland version,” she writes in the foreword of The Spirit Behind the Voice.

Price, who is the mother of Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price, is a former minister in the Northern Territory government and is one generation removed from first contact with white men, who she refers to as kardiya.

She makes it clear she has a very different perspective to that of Indigenous leaders who have no lived experience of what she described as “the Old Law”.

“They never talk about the downside, the acceptance of violence as a way to settle conflicts, the misogyny and acceptance of violence against women, the forcing of young girls into marriage with old men, the belief in sorcery.

“The old ways still cause a lot of problems, like continued violence against women, family feuding and the humbugging that forces so many to give their money to addicted kin for grog and gambling.

“All these things come from the culture we were taught as children. The so-called First Nations leaders tell us that all of these things are caused by kardiya (white men), by racism and colonisation.

“They have made everything worse, but all of these problems come from our own culture.”

Chris Merritt is vice-president of the Rule of Law Institute of Australia.

From the Oz

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:16 am

Philip Lowe opines that Australia’s standard of living will stagnate if Labor doesn’t adjust its policies to address productivity.

Stagnate? Er…Phil, most Australians will tell you it’s going backwards.

But Albo & Jim have a plan…500 000 immigrants this year!

Bushkid
Bushkid
September 8, 2023 8:17 am

Top Ender
Sep 8, 2023 5:23 AM
Interesting church experience here in Galaxidi…

There are many beautiful and interesting things in this world, TE. Thank you for this description of yet another little local marvel wrought by the hand of man.

calli
calli
September 8, 2023 8:17 am

Always take distress flares and some form of personal defence when visiting the Cotswolds (or Oxford for that matter).

Most dangerous, depraved place on earth.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 8:17 am

“The human Y is in the very last stages of degeneration, and the big question is how long till it, too, gets lost, and what will happen when it does. If it goes on degenerating at the same rate it has over the last 150 million years, it has only a few million years to go,”

Gender bending might be more reasonable then. It can wait.
It is definitely not reasonable now.

Y is still sturdy enough, thank goodness… 😉

signed xx

Crossie
Crossie
September 8, 2023 8:19 am

Even with massive subsidies the financials of offshore wind projects still doesn’t make sense. And the UK has rather better offshore wind speeds than most places. Good luck Mr Bowen in getting projects up here.

He will simply offer more of our money to make it worthwhile for renewables grifters.

calli
calli
September 8, 2023 8:22 am

Philip Lowe opines that Australia’s standard of living will stagnate if Labor doesn’t adjust its policies to address productivity.

I wonder how much WFH is contributing to the decline. I saw a fellow on tv spruiking the need for more days at home … he had a baby beside the keyboard in a bouncy chair as he “worked”.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:22 am

Most dangerous, depraved place on earth.

Death lurks among the delphiniums!

Crossie
Crossie
September 8, 2023 8:24 am

“They never talk about the downside, the acceptance of violence as a way to settle conflicts, the misogyny and acceptance of violence against women, the forcing of young girls into marriage with old men, the belief in sorcery.

It doesn’t fit with the narrative so it doesn’t get acknowledged. How can the voice fix this when it can’t even admit it’s happening? When it is finally highlighted it will end up being our fault.

calli
calli
September 8, 2023 8:25 am

Even more so between the foxgloves and monkshood. 😀

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 8, 2023 8:26 am

If I was holding a truth telling commission Victoriastan would not be my first choice of venue. Collectively they seem to have some difficulty with the concept.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:27 am

I wonder how much WFH is contributing to the decline.

I’ve seen reports that it increases the productivity of office workers.

More studies will come, no doubt, but I don’t think it’s a major factor either way.

Red & green and soon black tape, however, are not helping.

Crossie
Crossie
September 8, 2023 8:28 am

Roger
Sep 8, 2023 8:22 AM
Most dangerous, depraved place on earth.

Death lurks among the delphiniums!

I read an article about location filming Midsomer Murders where the village vicar came up to the director and asked “How many of my parishioners have you killed today?”

calli
calli
September 8, 2023 8:28 am

Bear, rarer than the Thylacine. Someone saw the truth there once, I believe, but it disappeared before they realised what it was.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:34 am

Victoria is Labor’s pilot model for the nation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 8, 2023 8:35 am

The consensus on Tokyo talk-back this morning is that Bladen Maynard will get two weeks.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:36 am

And as I’ve written before, Labor is basically a racketeering outfit with a parliamentary front.

Tom
Tom
September 8, 2023 8:36 am

Victoria’s Yoorrook Commission biased from the beginning
CHRIS MERRITT

Many thanks, Peter Greagg, for posting that article, which I’ve filed.

The attempt by activists to redefine legal justice to let wrongdoers off the hook is pure evil.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 8, 2023 8:37 am

In further Box of Hammers news:

Australia says Qatar’s strip-searches of women factor in blocking flights

Transport Minister Catherine King said on Thursday that the “invasive” gynaecological examinations carried out at Doha International Airport in 2020 influenced her decision to deny the Qatari airline’s bid to double its Australian flights.

Qatar authorities carried out the exams on the passengers as part of an investigation into the whereabouts of the mother of a newborn baby discovered in an airport bathroom.

So, in fine MENA tradition, the Qatar airport authorities got heavy handed with passing traffic. Not good.

Luckily Ms King is there to clarify the offence and pin the blame on the airline:

“Certainly, for context, this is the only airline that has something like that that has happened,” King said during a news conference in Canberra.

“And so I can’t say that, you know, I wasn’t aware of it, but, certainly, it wasn’t the only factor.”

“There was no one factor that influenced this decision,” King added.

So crystal clear, then.

And well deserved clarity, given the Morrison Government and Qatar’s appalling indifference and lack of action on the matter:

Following the 2020 incident, Qatar’s Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani had expressed his “deepest sympathies with the women impacted by the search at the airport” and renewed the Gulf state’s apology to them.

“The incident is considered a violation of Qatar’s laws and values,” he said at the time, adding that the officials involved had been referred to the public prosecutor.

So, Ms King’s message to little brown men in government is clear:

Under the Albanese Government, no matter what mitigating steps you take, any incident that hits the media can and will be retrieved from the Offence Locker and may used against you at a later date, as and when politically convenient.

There’s something there for all of us.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 8, 2023 8:40 am

Tom
Sep 8, 2023 8:36 AM
Victoria’s Yoorrook Commission biased from the beginning
CHRIS MERRITT

Many thanks, Peter Greagg, for posting that article, which I’ve filed.

The attempt by activists to redefine legal justice to let wrongdoers off the hook is pure evil.

+ upticks

Cassie of Sydney
September 8, 2023 8:40 am

“I’ve seen reports that it increases the productivity of office workers.”

I doubt that very much. My company is now insisting that people come into the office at least three days a week.

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 8, 2023 8:41 am

So WTF did the police themselves not pull the CCTV footage for that alleged assault? Talk about ‘believe and don’t even bother checking’!

Tis even worse when the police themselves are the source of the film (bodycam) and ‘lose’ it after discovering it doesn’t support the charges they have laid.

Couldn’t happen, I know….

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 8, 2023 8:41 am

As he drew from ancient folk tales from far and wide but mostly scandi, we can assume that such events and objects sit deep within human hearts and memory.

Indeed they do. The aboriginal myths I linked above, likely remnant memories of great Australian tsunamis of the past, seem to have believed that the sky was held up by four props, one of which collapsed during a major tsunami. It recovered, but the myth remained that it once fell.

Surprisingly similar mythology exists in Nordic beliefs about the sky being held up by four dwarves (pace Snow White), spirit beings who worked in gold, and that when, inevitably, the dwarves dropped their bundle, the sky would fall in, bringing on Ragnarok, the end of Odin’s sun-chariot chase daily across the skies trying to catch the wolf Fenir by the tail, recalled in Germanic myth as ‘the twilight of the gods’. These beliefs also help explain the origin of the Henny Penny fairy stories and nursery rhyme.

We also see them in a common piece of iconography, the dragon curling, holding his tail in his mouth. I’ve seen it above the C12th chapel door in Penmon Island at Anglesey, and also on the base of the Apprentice Column in C15th Rosslyn Chapel (two dragons there), and there it was too, on the Tapisserie, the original 1066 Bayeux Tapestry, still held in Bayeux in Normandy. If the dragon lets go of his tail, watch out! He represents the worldcircle, where the circular sun-god Odin is the Wraldfader curving across the skies, the sun his chariot of fire. Indo-European stone circles and circular huts, circles of all sorts, are deeply embedded in human consciousness. Neuro-psychologists link such circles to our visual processes when in other stages of consciousness. Hence, trances to achieve nirvana etc.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 8, 2023 8:46 am

The attempt by activists to redefine legal justice to let wrongdoers off the hook is pure evil entirely unexpected but what comes with classes of citizens </em.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:48 am

I doubt that very much. My company is now insisting that people come into the office at least three days a week.

It might depend on the office culture.

There are no doubt toxic workplaces where people are happier and hence more productive working from home.

I don’t think wfh is going away.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 8, 2023 8:48 am

HTML needs work. Good job I don’t do this for a living.

Johnny Rotten
September 8, 2023 8:49 am

“The human Y is in the very last stages of degeneration, and the big question is how long till it, too, gets lost, and what will happen when it does. If it goes on degenerating at the same rate it has over the last 150 million years, it has only a few million years to go,”

Humans and their Y being around for 150 million years?

Fact check please.

Dinosaurs please not apply. That means the ALPBC, the UN and many others.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:50 am

I don’t suppose we should be surprised…

Catherine King, whose relationship with truth is somewhat elastic, hails from…Victoria.

Makka
Makka
September 8, 2023 8:55 am

Well, just had a quick look and he’s just reporting what Urals oil is being reported at presently.

Cargo insurance can help. Cargo premiums and cargo volume/weight are knowns or can be obtained to calculate a reasonable ballpark of $pt or barrel.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 8, 2023 8:55 am

Adam Smith in the Wealth of Nations warned governments against raising taxes “too” high by noting that by doing so, the government isself was encouraging “smugglers”. At that time, import taxes were a significant source of tax revenue.

And here we are where tobacco taxes are hugely greater than the actual price of production, and as a consequence illegal supply and subsitutes are booming. From September the tax will be $1842 per kg of tobacco, plus GST. Eye-watering stuff!

The government and the anti-smoking lobby can’t say they weren’t warned.

Tobacco sales collapse amid black market vapes boom

The Australian Association of Convenience Stores recorded its biggest decline in tobacco sales on record, prompting concerns about the high volume of illicit tobacco and vapes flooding the black market and undercutting the government’s future tax revenue.

The AACS, which counts three major tobacco companies among its membership base, has recorded a 19.8 per cent decline in tobacco sales in the most recent quarter and a 13.7 per cent decline in the first quarter of this year, new figures from the association’s half-year report reveal.

Tobacco sales through excise taxes and GST contribute an estimated $5bn a year to the nation’s economy. However, the Intergenerational Report stated that tobacco consumption was expected to flatline in the decades ahead ­despite the government ramping up tobacco controls.

AACS chief executive Theo Foukkare said the government had failed to crack down on a ­rampant trade of black market vapes and tobacco products, causing trade for legitimate retailers to suffer.

“The state of illegal tobacco and the vape black market in Australia is now unfortunately a national embarrassment,” Mr Foukkare said.

“We have over 90 million illegal vapes that flooded into Australia last year and we believe that number will be higher this year.

“And separate to that, one in four tobacco products are now being sold illegally by criminals. The government’s failure to actually regulate this properly with the correct enforcement for retailers has become a national crisis.”

Mr Foukkare has called on the government to crack down on the black market to prevent money from the lucrative illicit vape market from flowing into the hands of criminal organisations.

Polling from RedBridge has found that 81 per cent of Australians support nicotine vaping products being regulated in the same way as alcohol and tobacco.

“The profits from these products are actually being used to fund other illegal activities and cause disruptions in local communities, as well as supply a whole raft of other illicit products,” Mr Foukkare said.

“And it’s the same for vaping, so unfortunately you’ve got the same network of stores that are selling illicit tobacco also selling ­illegal vaping products.

“We feel quite strongly about the fact that the Albanese government can fix this crisis by strictly regulating vaping products in the same way as alcohol or tobacco and also implementing a national enforcement crackdown on the nicotine black market.”

Health Minister Mark Butler has announced a ramping up of the nation’s tobacco controls and measures to stop the importing of non-prescription vapes. He wants to work with states and territories to close down the sale of vapes in shops such as convenience stores.

“Australia needs to reclaim its position as a world leader on tobacco control,” Mr Butler said.

“As we stamp out the growing black market in illegal vaping, we also need to prevent people from trading their vapes for cigarettes.

“The May budget included measures to bring smoking rates down, protect people from taking it up, and additional support for current and former smokers to look after their health.”

Opposition health spokeswoman Anne Ruston said Labor’s tobacco measures would not be effective without tackling gaps in enforcement.

“There appears to be no plan from this Labor government on how they intend to enforce measures at the border to stop the ­importation of illegal vapes,” she said. “Without addressing enforcement, the government’s headline measure is not worth the paper it’s written on.”

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 8, 2023 8:56 am

Persian Princess:

You know the ‘yes’ case is circling the drain when the most politically active and relentlessly leftist sporting organisation in the land opts out of pro-Voice activism on its biggest day.

The AFL has read the room and determined it’s best not alienate the majority of the country with divisive racial politics on Grand Final day.

It is a devastating blow for the Anthony Albanese government and the ‘yes’ advocates seeking to enshrine racial privilege into the nation’s founding document. Indeed, it’s been widely reported that the referendum date of October 14 was selected to take advantage of an extravaganza of pro-Voice messaging at the AFL and NRL grand finals – on September 30 and October 1 – that would be seen by millions of sports fans.

Players and clubs are free to campaign but the AFL will not use the Grand Final nor the finals series as a platform to push the merits of the race-based referendum.

Could this be a new era for the AFL under incoming CEO Andrew Dillon where they, shock horror, concentrate on the business of running the country’s leading football body and leave the politicking to the politicians? It’s far too early to draw that conclusion and given the AFL’s track record we’re unlikely to be spared their regular bouts of incoherent virtue signalling on a range of issues.

Back in February I wrote about the dangers of the AFL playing a dangerous and divisive game of race politics that would be certain to alienate huge segments of the community. Let’s not forget that this year the league grappled with a damaging race scandal involving two senior coaches, Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan, who were unfairly maligned after a discredited review commissioned by the Hawthorn Football Club. As I wrote back then Gill McLachlan’s legacy will be tarnished by this self-inflicted crisis.

As recently as last month the AFL was defending its pro-Voice activism. Dillon speaking at a press conference at the Garma Festival in northeast Arnhem Land said: “The AFL as an organisation has come out in support of a Yes vote. We think that is very important from an AFL point of view with the number of First Nations players that we have, the number of First Nations men and women we have working in the AFL … what we say to the people of Australia is to make sure you educate yourself.”

There are those in the ‘yes’ camp who claim that the AFL’s decision is actually a win for their side given Australians’ distaste for sports and politics mixing but it’s clear that recent polls on the Voice have played a part in the league’s decision.

Even an organisation as arrogant as the AFL would baulk at upsetting more than 50 per cent of the potential audience. This week we had two major polls, Newspoll and Essential, showing the pro-Voice agenda bleeding support. Nationally support for the Voice has fallen to 38 per cent, with the no vote at 53 per cent; the first time the no vote has achieved an outright majority with Newspoll. The Left-leaning Guardian Essential poll had the yes vote falling to 42 per cent trailing the no vote on 48 per cent with 10 per cent undecided. A deeper look at the data shows just what a hole the yes side is in with their numbers in free fall in every demographic. About the only demo that is still majority yes is the under 35s and that fell from 59 to 55 per cent.

And the AFL would’ve noted that only one in three Australian men plan to vote yes in the referendum. The Voice is in such peril that some of its loudest supporters have dramatically shifted their approach to campaigning. Take Noel Pearson, founder of the Cape York Partnership, who earlier in the year was attacking no campaigners, Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and Warren Mundine, in the ugliest terms, calling them “glove puppets” who allow themselves to be used by clever white folk to “punch down on indigenous people”.

But Pearson has clearly noted that bully boy tactics are not a winning strategy and has changed tack dramatically. At the Australian newspaper’s Great Voice Debate on Tuesday night he was all softness and understanding.

“We’ve got to listen respectfully to those people who have reservations or questions or concerns,” he said.

“We have got to deal with them in good faith. We have to believe their questions come from a good place.”

It’s amazing what six bad polls in five weeks can do.

Panahi has statistics that reveal only a third of Australian men intend to vote yes. Quite incredible.

Roger
Roger
September 8, 2023 8:56 am

ABC RN AM manages to find an expert to console their ever-dwindling audience of Yes voters:

“Most people haven’t engaged with the issue yet.”

And, lo and behold, they provide some vox pops to back that up!

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 8, 2023 8:56 am

From the Oz, sorry.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 8, 2023 8:57 am

I don’t think wfh is going away.

Possibility not in the current economic environment. An uptick in unemployment under Albo and Chalmers may give management more persuasive power. A few building owners are hoping that will be the case. A few hot desks have gone cold.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 8, 2023 8:57 am

On Sky News – the Dealer’s Missus doing the distraction squirrel shrieking about feral cats and how they have killed millions and millions of native animals.

Apparently there is a new detector/squirt thingy that will eradicate cats.

If only there was a similar politician friendly device !

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 8, 2023 9:00 am

Red & green and soon black tape, however, are not helping.

Having dealt with increasing and infinitely variable black tape for the past 25 years, I’m looking forward to the howls of anguish from the bien pensants as the lived experience of the unintended consequences of the gift of the Uluru Statement in Full chews the arse out of their pants.

Just as with renewable energy, in 10-15 years time Australians will be wondering what went so badly wrong.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 8, 2023 9:01 am

ABC RN AM manages to find an expert to console their ever-dwindling audience of Yes voters:

Almost broke the speed dial.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 8, 2023 9:01 am

Fifty years of educational leftism and uni students can’t do fractions.

Would-be STEM majors can’t add 1/2 + 1/3 (7 Sep)

After a year of remote algebra, Diego Fonseca struggled with advanced algebra.

Despite a week at George Mason University’s Math Boot Camp, the would-be computer science major failed the math placement test to qualify for calculus four times. He didn’t know the basics.

Across the country, more students are placing into pre-college math, reports AP’s Collin Binkley. “At many universities, engineering and biology majors are struggling to grasp fractions and exponents.

Betcha, though, they are word perfect in critical race theory and climate bedwetting.

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