Open Thread – Weekend 23 Sept 2023


On the Shore of the Gulf of Finland – Udrias Near Narva, Ivan Shishkin, 1888

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Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 23, 2023 12:00 am

Hi all

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 23, 2023 12:02 am
Megan
Megan
September 23, 2023 1:06 am

Good morning, fellow insomniacs.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 23, 2023 1:31 am

Hello, fellow insomniac.

Sheep counting is for chumps anyway.

pete of perth
pete of perth
September 23, 2023 1:46 am
Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 23, 2023 2:07 am

Me and my big mouth. That last comment will land me in trouble with Big Dorper.

Johnny Rotten
September 23, 2023 2:34 am

More sound advice from Senator Jacinta Price –

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/09/i-love-jacinta.html

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 23, 2023 2:45 am

The Uluru Statement compilation video that PHON published yesterday is highly concise about treaty being the real aim of The InVoice, though it won’t change the mind of anyone who thinks a treaty is a good idea.

Deadman
Deadman
September 23, 2023 3:44 am

It’s still Hobbit Day in some parts of the world.

Hobbit Post, Part I;
Hobbit Post, Part II.

Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
September 23, 2023 4:14 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 23, 2023 4:22 am

Thanks Tom. And Deadman.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 4:51 am

That last comment will land me in trouble with Big Dorper.

A comedian on Compound Media was ranting about COVID this week & referred to Big Parma.
Hilarity ensued.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 5:32 am

Farmer Gez, how does a working dog auction work?
What age are they?
Do you get to see them do anything before the bidding?

Also, Steparty at 3:40pm.
The fields get bigger & the fields become classier.
Going for 5 wins from 5 starts.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 5:39 am

If Steparty wins this & goes onto the Caulfield Guineas, will they look to the Cox Plate?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 5:49 am

From memory, if they do set Steparty for a Cox Plate, I’m trying to think of a more lightly raced horse.
From memory, Adelaide won the Cox Plate from its 8th start.

calli
calli
September 23, 2023 6:33 am

Deadman! Just in time for First Breakfast. Or Very Late Night Snack (a new category for extremely hungry Hobbitses).

miltonf
miltonf
September 23, 2023 6:36 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 23, 2023 6:37 am

Magpies are up early.

Getting ready for the GF.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
September 23, 2023 6:38 am

Chris Kenny has gone into full condemnation mode. Nasty little country apparently. Thought we wouldn’t get to that stage until the last week.

PeterM
PeterM
September 23, 2023 6:39 am

From Crikey:

We don’t want reconciliation. We want a reckoning

Story by Keiran Stewart-Assheton •8h

Yep, we know. Thanks for confirming.

PeterM
PeterM
September 23, 2023 6:40 am

Is Assheton Old English for what I think it is?

calli
calli
September 23, 2023 6:51 am

The nearest brute had almost reached my side
but paus’d and, baffl’d, fell mid-stride.

Love it!

Is the first part done in alliterative verse? It has a stirring cadence when read aloud. Tolkien, the wordsmith, had fun with that also.

miltonf
miltonf
September 23, 2023 6:52 am

Chris Kenny has gone into full condemnation mode.

Who the hell does he think he is to cast aspersions like that? Just piss off. Another deadshit who’s never had a real job.

132andBush
132andBush
September 23, 2023 7:02 am

Broelman losing the plot as are all the MSM (BIRM) over this El Nino.

A natural event that’s been well forecast for months along with the historical records of an El Nino always following a triple La Nina.

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2023 7:06 am

(Carlton fan sweating intensifies)

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 23, 2023 7:06 am

Chris Kenny needs to be drug tested.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 7:07 am

Today I learned (via the Jimmy Dore show) is that it’s just over 2 miles from the Elipse to the Capitol building.
And it’s up to another half a mile depending on which entrance one wants to use.
So depending on the pace of your walk, it’s somewhere between 30-45 mins.
Based on all legal precedent in the US, incitement doesn’t hold up.
But that doesn’t matter in the DC court.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 23, 2023 7:08 am

Thank you for the toons Tom. Johannes Leak of course the stand out by many furlongs.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 7:13 am

The green-left narrative that China is striving to save the planet from global boiling just took a hit…

China Says Fossil Fuel Phase-Out Is Unrealistic (23 Sep)

“It is unrealistic to completely phase out fossil fuel energy,” Xie, who will represent China at COP28 in Dubai in November, told ambassadors in Beijing ahead of the climate summit.

Meanwhile Guterres has gotten all religious or something:

U.N. Chief Guterres: Global Warming Has Opened ‘the Gates of Hell’ (22 Sep)

The United Nations alarmist-in-chief António Guterres said this week humanity must urgently find solutions to climate change because it “has opened the gates of hell.”

“Horrendous heat is having horrendous effects,” Guterres warned in his opening remarks Wednesday at the U.N. Climate Ambition Summit in New York.

Is that where all those climate zombies who glue themselves to things came from? Sounds like he and Mr Xi aren’t quite on the same page at the moment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 7:14 am

If Trump’s incitement/insurrection case goes before SCOTUS and he loses, it means Brandenburg v Ohio is dead.
And the threshold for incitement is lowered to whatever the security state wants it to be.

132andBush
132andBush
September 23, 2023 7:16 am

Is that where all those climate zombies who glue themselves to things came from?

Hope I’m proved wrong but those climate zombies may be responsible for more than one fire this coming season.

Gabor
Gabor
September 23, 2023 7:22 am

feelthebern
Sep 23, 2023 7:14 AM

If Trump’s incitement/insurrection case goes before SCOTUS and he loses, it means Brandenburg v Ohio is dead.

And the threshold for incitement is lowered to whatever the security state wants it to be.

Is that surprises you? That is the aim.

calli
calli
September 23, 2023 7:31 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 23, 2023 7:32 am

Gez I hope the Top Dog performs better than the Top Men we keep hearing about.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 23, 2023 7:34 am

Teal* logic: Poor people don’t drive.
*I’m betting Mz Hockeysticks votes LibDem.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 23, 2023 7:36 am

Vikki Campion:

Spit foams from ANU professor Denise Ferris’ lips, the glob landed squarely onto a person daring to hold a different opinion, perfectly encapsulates the utopian Voice dream. This is the station called Referendum, and what a sad town it is.

If this is how united we are now just talking about the Voice, imagine what is waiting beyond the platform.

The Voice will be risk-free, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese assures us. So why has his government delayed a key committee blueprint into how it will work?

For 13 months, a joint standing committee has been investigating an international agreement called UNDRIP, the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, but the committee, which was due to issue its final report in July has refused to release its findings after evidence it heard from around the world did not back up the utopia of treaty, reparations and compensation.

Nordic countries that have fiercely promoted UNDRIP gave evidence of Indigenous electoral rolls being swamped in an “overwhelming” race to be on Sami voting registries, while racism and divisiveness have soared.

Dividing people by race instead of character and treating one person differently from another due to heritage has created big problems. International evidence provided to the committee has yet to offer a detailed circumstance of a single life made better by UNDRIP’s articles, which include state financing functions of Indigenous “self-government”, and states redress “for any form of forced assimilation or integration, any action which has the effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resource or their integrity as distinct peoples, or their cultural values or ethnic identities”.

It further states that Indigenous peoples have the right to restitution or compensation for the lands, territories and resources they have “traditionally owned or otherwise occupied or used and which have been confiscated, taken, occupied, used or damaged without their free, prior and informed consent”.

In practice, Samediggi (the Sami parliament of Norway) president Silje Karine Muotka gave evidence that when human rights were breached, people became more racist to Sami people. A large wind power plant built in the grazing areas of the Fosen Samis disrupted traditional herding and the High Court ruled it was a breach of human rights.

“What we have seen since the Fosen case and the ongoing human rights violation is quite a dramatic rise in hate speech and racism against the Sami population,” she said.

The former Finnish Ombudsman for Minorities told the committee that UNDRIP had become “rather a divisive issue in Finland” with “hate speech against the Sami and vice versa. So ethic relations have become very tense”.

Others in the Sami parliaments said they had been inundated with claim from individuals from families that have traditionally been considered to be “Finnish families (and) are now claiming to be Sami”. In Canada, the native Indians have discovered a new race that they have termed “Pretendians”.

It’s almost as if you offer certain people special rights, other people will want to be treated equally to them.

The same rush to be recognised as Indigenous is occurring in New Zealand since former PM Jacinda Adern, under the cover of Covid in 2019, sneaked in a Mechanism on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.

Rosie
Rosie
September 23, 2023 7:39 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 7:41 am

Chris Kenny has gone into full condemnation mode. Nasty little country apparently. Thought we wouldn’t get to that stage until the last week.

Make it count. Beat the rush.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 7:42 am

“Based on all legal precedent in the US, incitement doesn’t hold up.”

Nothing holds up about that day.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 7:46 am

Today I learned that there were all black companies fighting for the British in the US war of independence.
And towards the end when the Brits knew they were going to lose, they evacuated the soldiers to Nova Scotia because they wanted to protect them.
Imagine a “Glory” type movie being made about them.
The Brits don’t get enough credit for ending slavery.

Gabor
Gabor
September 23, 2023 7:47 am

Betting wise there is little in it as to the Brisbane Lions against the Colliwobbles but my money is for Collingwood and Carlton for the final.

Had good odds so theoretically I can’t lose.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 7:54 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 7:57 am

Unlike self-appointed National scold Chris Kenny, Greg Craven adopts a melancholy voice of defeat in Teh Weekend Paywallian. Chin up Greg.

P
P
September 23, 2023 8:00 am

Disadvantage based on need, not race, says Price
The Catholic Weekly -By Staff Writers – September 22, 2023

Mr Norman asked Senator Price how faith communities can contribute towards drawing the nation together.

“The faith community has had a lot of influence throughout communities within the Northern Territories. The missionaries provided—during the violence of the frontier—safe haven for a lot of Indigenous groups,” Senator Price, whose mother was brought up a Baptist, replied.

“It’s not acknowledged enough the good work that was done back in the day, to not just provide safe haven against the violence of the frontier, but provide the opportunity for Indigenous Australians to become skilled and a part of the Australian economy, as well, learning those skills for employment.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 8:01 am

So long as the Grand Final is a better game than last year I won’t even mind if Collingwood win. Last year was more disappointing than your dealer not delivering before the Mardi Gras after party. Thanks Sydney.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 23, 2023 8:01 am

Dogs, horses and football, proper topics of conservation for manly men.

The dogs are mixed age and training at the auction. Some are fully trained and usually above eighteen months. Younger ones are classed as started or well started. This means they’re already better trained than most dog you’d see in the local park. There’s also older dogs that are proven workers from exceptional bloodlines sold as breeeders.
Steparty meets a higher class today and hopefully gets a birth in the Guineas. The Cox Plate would be the next goal. I know the breeder and many of the owners so I’m hoping they have a great ride this Spring.
As for the umps last night – they did miss a few for GWS but also allowed a sling tackle in front of goal and seemed to award 50’s for the protected zone early against the Pies and then forgot all about the rule after half time.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 8:04 am

Here’s Janet A in the Oz, it’s good……

Even a bogeyman like Russell Brand deserves a fair trial
JANET ALBRECHTSEN

That English comedian Russell Brand has met with his comeuppance is not unwelcome news. The numerous claims of him being a sexual predator and an alleged rapist, his own gross history of bragging about shagging, his transformation from being a Corbynista anti-capitalist to being at home on podcaster Joe Rogan’s show and running alt-right conspiracy theories point to a mercurial man whose past eventually would catch up with him in one way or another.

Few can be surprised that Brand has been accused of serious sexual assault by several women, or that he denies the allegations. This is not an explosive story. That it is yawn-inducingly predictable is why the Brand saga raises important matters beyond his alleged crimes. What is more troubling than the abusers are the enablers. And there are many more of the latter than the former.

If you worked in a large law firm or investment bank in the 1990s, for example, like I did, you would know that some young women occasionally were treated as sexual meat. Not always. Not by all men. But there were times, usually involving alcohol paid for by the firm, where some men, including very senior ones, behaved badly. These men were as well known to junior employees as they were to their more senior peers in the firm.

Less well known were the names of those who allowed the behaviour to continue. Partly, a bit of groping and other sexual shenanigans were seen as no big deal. Plenty of women engaged in, and enjoyed, sexual banter back then too. But there were enough senior lawyers and bankers, male and female, who knew the difference between that and the lewd, unwelcome behaviour of their peers.

There were two categories of enablers who allowed the worst harassers to remain in their senior positions: the low calibre enablers who turned a blind eye, and other high calibre enablers who absolutely knew about the behaviour and should have done more to stop it.

Some young women were, at times, bold enough to tell the transgressors, though they were more senior to us, to “f..k off”. But not all young women could do that. All of us had this much in common, we had nowhere to go to complain about a man who, for example, thought it was fine to ask a young employee for oral sex at a work function. If there was someplace to report it, we didn’t know about it.

The allegations about Brand from many years ago point to the fact these young women may have felt they had nowhere to go either. It wasn’t that the media had no interest in learning that a high-profile celebrity was a sexual predator. Establishment media and the public facilitated the predator.

Large media organisations encouraged Brand’s tawdry behaviour, they banked on it, paid big bucks for it. And millions of people revelled in his reliable indecency and mercurial political views.

Brand’s particular form of entertainment included pleasuring a gay man in a Soho pub to push his own sexual boundaries, meeting a neo Nazi and seducing a pensioner.

In 2008, BBC Radio 2 broadcast a prerecorded program where Brand and fellow presenter Jonathan Ross were paid vast sums to laugh about a series of phone message they left on the answering machine of a lonely old actor, Andrew Sachs. The messages recorded threats by the men that they would “kick in his front door” and that Brand had “f..ked” Sach’s granddaughter. They joked about how a grandparent might have a photo of a young grandchild on a swing next to their bed and how Brand had “enjoyed” Sach’s granddaughter on a swing.

Brand was suspended for that, but his fame was fuelled by other media outlets too, all of them investing in his ugly character.

When he was left-wing, Brand had a column in The Guardian, he was on Channel 4, he was invited to speak to Jeremy Paxman on the BBC’s News­night, he was guest editor of The New Statesman.

Sections of our own country were seduced, too. Brand appeared on Ten’s The Project where a female panellist asked him how his recent commitment to celibacy was going. “What time do you finish work?” he shot back. They all guffawed with delight at the boom-boom predictability of this walking, talking sex act. In 2012, Brand grabbed Nine journalist Liz Hayes, kissed her and offered to undo her bra when she interviewed him for a 60 Minutes segment.

The investigation of Brand by The Times, The Sunday Times and Channel 4 is admirable, painstaking work. And why wouldn’t women go to the media when they can secure instant, albeit rough, justice? The attraction of doing that is obvious if you have spent years staying quiet. But let’s not imagine that those who are part of this new line of reporting, exposing allegations in the media before they are reported to police, are naive to consequences.

Even the most responsible, carefully legalled media investigation into Brand has, once again, given way to a public lynching where a complainant becomes a victim and the presumption of innocence becomes redundant.

Some will say this case is different, that we can head to verdict before a trial because several women, unknown to each other, have made accusations that tend to corroborate each other. But they are still untested claims. And what is the right number of women making allegations against one man that justifies the verdict first, trial later model? Three? Four?

One untested allegation set off a public witch hunt that enveloped Bruce Lehrmann when Brittany Higgins chose to go to the media before progressing a formal complaint to police.

I am all for a pile-on, after a guilty verdict by a court of law.

Just as the enablers of sexual misconduct were part of a rotten culture in the ’90s, a new class of enablers has emerged as part of the #MeToo movement.

They are the drivers of this new culture where legal advocates in a court of law are replaced with myriad self-appointed victim advocates in the media and in other institutions who rouse public opinion about a man’s guilt, and to heck with due process, the presumption of innocence and a fair trial. Months or years later, there may be a court process, but to what end? Before a charge is laid, let alone a criminal trial begins, the damage is done, quickly, publicly, irrevocably through trial by media, a career is destroyed, friends are lost, a family is crushed.

In these circumstances, what does an eventual acquittal by a court mean? The enablers of trial by media know this.

We can’t ignore the tensions between the media’s important role in helping to expose the abusive treatment of women and, at the same time, the media’s role in enabling this dangerous culture of trial by media. Dangerous because it transcends responsible reporting. Social media is an unregulated breeding ground for these public witch-hunts. As we saw with Scott Morrison’s injudicious apology to Higgins, and ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold’s misguided press conference that he could win a second trial against Lehrmann, even senior leaders of powerful institutions, people who should know better, appear to have succumbed to the worst impulses of the #MeToo movement.

The pendulum has swung from a set of people who enabled men to abuse women to a new class of enablers who, to make amends for the past, and with the best of intentions to support women, are damaging fundamental values in a democratic society.

The same law firms and other professional bodies that turned a blind eye to sexual abuse decades ago now overreach by describing every complainant as a victim, leaving the presumption of innocence in a precarious state.

A spokesman for Britain’s Operation Hydrant, a police unit that will help the Metropolitan Police investigate the allegation against Brand, urged “any victim or survivor” to speak to police.

There are no victims yet, there are complainants. Taking an allegation seriously is very different to “believing all women”.

In this respect, the Sofronoff report into the Lehrmann matter missed a golden opportunity. Among the policy changes recommended in the final report, Walter Sofronoff KC did not suggest the word victim be replaced with a less loaded term in the Victims of Crime Commission legislation and to the title of the Victims of Crime Commissioner. That’s a shame.

Patently, to many people, including potential jurors, the presumption of innocence was placed in a precarious state when the Victims of Crime Commissioner accompanied Higgins into court, sat with her, and stood by her in front of cameras. Higgins was not a “victim”. She was and remains a complainant.

As we wait for our moral, political and media compass to settle somewhere more sensible, let’s not buy into Brand’s banal claim in recent days that there is a mainstream media conspiracy out to get him. “Is there another agenda at play?” he said in his statement this week. Some of his latest fans, including psychologist Jordan Peterson, hinted at dark forces. “Someone wants (Brand) destroyed,” Peterson tweeted.

Maybe it’s as simple as Brand’s past catching up with him. As journalist Rosie Taylor tweeted this week: “Anyone who thinks ‘the media’ plots Machiavellian global schemes should spend a week in a newsroom. Once you’ve witnessed news and features forgetting to talk to each other and Xmas taking us by surprise Every. Single. Year … you’ll realise we’re incapable of what you imagine.”

Brand has built a lucrative career by peddling conspiracies and battling bogeymen – from capitalism to cancel culture and Covid. Maybe he was the bogeyman all along. But he was aided and abetted by the media, first on the left when it was early Brand, then on the right when he transformed into anti-woke later Brand. Brand’s brand of sexual and political deviance turned audiences on.

That said, even a bogeyman who has made money from telling dick jokes deserves a fair trial.”

Some thoughts, I think Janet’s piece is very, very good. I’ve long though Brand to be a low grade grub. But he’s a child of our low grade culture, and particularly our low grade media. It was the media who made him, and they’ve spat him our because he refuses to conform to their agendas.

When Janet A says it’s probably a case of Brand’s past catching up with him, she’s right, but Jordan Peterson is also right, Brand has become a target for elimination because of his questionable past. He’s crossed lines, which means the MSM will no longer cover for him.

Rosie
Rosie
September 23, 2023 8:04 am

California has water supply problems, it makes sense to replace some grassed areas with other types of drought tolerant plants.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 23, 2023 8:04 am

Conservation?
That as well.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 23, 2023 8:06 am

Neh, I don’t talk about footy. Or horses. And I’m even getting a horse next week.
Mutt of the weekend. Any Victorian Cat like to pick her up and put her on the train to Marybrook?

132andBush
132andBush
September 23, 2023 8:09 am

California has a Marxist environmentalist problem.
There’s enough water.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 23, 2023 8:09 am

Space X has completed 65 missions during 2023 so far.
Keep sending up them satellites Elon !

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2023 8:27 am

When Janet A says it’s probably a case of Brand’s past catching up with him, she’s right, but Jordan Peterson is also right, Brand has become a target for elimination because of his questionable past.

Cassie, think you mean Brand has become a target for elimination NOT because of his questionable past. It’s his present that they want to silence.

m0nty
m0nty
September 23, 2023 8:35 am

Great to hear respectful silence during the Welcome to Country last night at the footy, followed by generous applause, despite Sam Newman calling for fans to boo.

The footy gods rewarded Collingwood with a famous victory.

Sam Newman, now mates with Avi and Rukshan, is a sad old man.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 23, 2023 8:38 am

Andrew Sachs’ grand daughter was hardly Hayley Mills.

cohenite
September 23, 2023 8:41 am

Dickless enjoys a little victory.

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2023 8:42 am

Great to hear respectful silence during the Welcome to Country last night

monty Pascoe.

Now I’ve heard it all.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 8:42 am

Protests across Canada against gender ideology in schools. The protests, of course, are being smeared as “far-right” and “racist”, except the problem with those descriptions is that most of the protesters in Vancouver, in Montreal, and particularly in Toronto are brown skinned Muslims, women wearing hijabs and so on.

It’s funny about leftist ideology, and particularly about LGBTQI+ perverts, they love brown people and they love brown people’s food, until those pesky brown people actually stand up to the far-left fascist perverts, who want to groom and sodomise their children.

Whilst I believe we live in bad times, and I believe those bad times will get worse (I’m not optimistic), I’ll have my popcorn ready, because the coming confrontations between the perverts and the brown people are going to be lots of fun to watch.

I think Oz is slightly better off than the US and Canada in that we have a strong independent and Catholic system. It doesn’t mean that the pervert ideology hasn’t permeated through curriculum BUT the strong independent and Catholic system does provide a bulwark against the groomers, or maybe I’m too optimistic about that.
But what we will see happen here is that the far-left will go after independent and Catholic schools, the template set in the ACT with Calvary.

Jorge
Jorge
September 23, 2023 8:43 am

but Jordan Peterson is also right, Brand has become a target for elimination because of his questionable past

Nothing to do with his views on vaccines, and pharma companies and lockdowns then ?

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 8:44 am

Geez, don’t you like the pervert apologist’s casual Jew hatred and racism on display? Both Avi and Rukshan being “brown”. The only “sad old man” is the pervert apologist.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 8:46 am

And here’s the thing, most people are too polite to boo.

I wonder how many ‘Nazis’ the pervert apologist plans to punch today? He probably has a list.

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2023 8:46 am

They are talking about it like an alien invasion. None of these bright sparks mentions that if this is correct, it’s entirely self-inflicted. The god complex at play again. They’re trying to move beyond humanity.

In five years AI could be so advanced it would mean the “end of human-dominated history”, Yuval Noah Harari says

Rosie
Rosie
September 23, 2023 8:49 am

How do you know the silence was respectful?
You cannot know the mind of every person present.
It could have been sullen, resentful, co-erced, reluctant, unwilling.
I haven’t been to the football for several years but I do recall constantly being reminded to report others for any purported bad behaviour.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 8:51 am

‘The University of Melbourne has come under fire for appointing non-Indigenous academics to senior roles focused on Aboriginal studies’ reports The Guardian.

Does one have to be of English decent to teach English lit?

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 8:52 am

“How do you know the silence was respectful?”

Exactly. It was like when I was at the SSO two weeks ago and we had to endure one of the musician’s spruiking da Voice. Half the audience was silent, the other half clapped.

Personally, I think some serious booing is needed, but people are cowered.

Rosie
Rosie
September 23, 2023 8:53 am

I wonder if the cameras were panning around looking for non generous applauders to have their cards marked as casual racists?
And is there a benchmark for generous applause?
5 7 12 claps perhaps?
Did you rise to your feet in your enthusiasm?

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 23, 2023 8:53 am

If rumours of her dodgy behaviour began to circulate on
social media, would she consider that sufficient evidence
to justify cancelling herself?
If so, it might be worth getting an X account.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 8:54 am

Great to hear respectful silence during the Welcome to Country last night

mUnty Dreaming. The sounds of Meh. 3 more weeks.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 23, 2023 8:59 am

U.N. Chief Guterres: Global Warming Has Opened ‘the Gates of Hell’ (22 Sep)

‘Gates of Hell’ is the same portentous excess that Biden used to describe what he saw on September 12th 2001 in New York – which was a lie as he was in DC. He uses these overblown but cliched terms to try to inspire uncritical acceptance of whatever fib he is telling. Even though he has tossed the poker chip of his son Beau’s death on the table repeatedly, it is always with the thing about ‘a black hole in your chest’ which might ‘suck you in unable to escape’ – this last but accompanied by the motion of both hands open and outstretched being drawn with closing fists simultaneously.

You hear about people getting their hair cut, or their suits, at the same place. Gutteres and Biden must download their programming into the jacks at the back of their skulls at the same place too.

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2023 9:01 am

If rumours of her dodgy behaviour began to circulate on
social media, would she consider that sufficient evidence
to justify cancelling herself?
If so, it might be worth getting an X account.

One of the first comments

Your online harms bill is our prison.

Makka
Makka
September 23, 2023 9:03 am

Personally, I think some serious booing is needed, but people are cowered.

The attendees love their team and their footy. No doubt security would have been hovering around ready to ID any terrorist booing. To be met with life bans for such a disrespectful egregious attack. Perhaps those so inclined figured; not worth it.

calli
calli
September 23, 2023 9:05 am

Surveillance of football crowds…not for potential violence, but Wrongthink.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 9:07 am

I think Oz is slightly better off than the US and Canada in that we have a strong independent and Catholic system.

Any school system which receives the bulk of its funding from government is not independent.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 9:07 am

Yeah, and remember what happened to that twelve or thirteen year old girl at the footy a decade ago. Singled out, smeared, pilloried. All of which, no doubt, our resident Jew and brown people hating pervert apologist approved of.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 9:09 am

“Any school system which receives the bulk of its funding from government is not independent.”

Well maybe, but it still provides a bulwark of sorts. I’m not saying it is perfect, but it is a hell of a lot better than the US system, which is now a dog’s breakfast.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 9:10 am

“Surveillance of football crowds…not for potential violence, but Wrongthink.”

The pervert apologist approves.

Indolent
Indolent
September 23, 2023 9:11 am
Anders
Anders
September 23, 2023 9:13 am

Whoa, the ABC publishes an article vaguely critical of solar rooftop power – but only because it’s hurting large solar farms who are forced to shut down when rooftop solar production surges.

Goes on to mention – oh no, whoops, solar rooftop is actually also destroying the profitability of gas and coal and we kinda sorta need those to stay operational for when the sun isn’t shining and the wind blowing.

But don’t worry! Solutions presented are more batteries, more pumped hydro (never-mind the cost of Snowy2.0 blowing out from 2 billion to 12 billion) and and of course, it’s consumer behaviour that’s wrong, we need more consumer demand in the middle of the day.

JC
JC
September 23, 2023 9:13 am

Titus was obviously asleep last night.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 9:16 am

Dallas mayor flips to Republican:

‘Mayor Eric Johnson said he believes the future of the United States’s “great urban centers depends on the willingness of the nation’s mayors to champion law and order and practice fiscal conservatism” and that he was leaving the Democratic Party because it was not committed to making the country safer.’

– Washington Examiner

Dallas is the 9th largest city in the US by population. 24% of the population, including Mayor Johnson, is black.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2023 9:17 am

Singled out, smeared, pilloried

Thank you very much, Adam Goodes.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 23, 2023 9:17 am

feelthebern
Sep 23, 2023 7:46 AM

Today I learned that there were all black companies fighting for the British in the US war of independence.
And towards the end when the Brits knew they were going to lose, they evacuated the soldiers to Nova Scotia because they wanted to protect them.
Imagine a “Glory” type movie being made about them.
The Brits don’t get enough credit for ending slavery.

John Randall, was an African slave of Captain John Randall of Stonington, Connecticut, United States of America.

When he later joined the NSW Corps he gave his place of birth as New Haven, Connecticut. The first certain record for him is his conviction at Manchester Quarter Sessions, England, in April 1785.

It is surmised that, because of his later career, he might have sought his freedom through being recruited as a musician to a British regiment and then travelled with that regiment to England in around 1783.

Following his sentence for 7 years for stealing a watch chain, he was gaoled on the Ceres Hulk and then transported to Botany Bay aboard the Alexander in the First Fleet.

https://peopleaustralia.anu.edu.au/biography/randall-john-30314

https://firstfleetfellowship.org.au/convicts/john-randall/

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 23, 2023 9:20 am

Why is it so?

– the ground-breaking TV series with the enigmatic Professor Julius Sumner Miller – ran on the ABC from 1963 to 1986.

Professor Miller’s infectious enthusiasm for physics delighted, educated and entertained generations of Australians, most of whom have at some point asked each other ‘Why is it so?’ in the characteristic Julius Sumner Miller voice.

The Lab has found some of the funniest, most entertaining segments from the Why is it so? series, and made them available for twenty first century enjoyment – over both dialup or broadband connections. Now you too can watch some ‘enchanting experiments’ with the good professor!

another ian
another ian
September 23, 2023 9:23 am

FWIW –

“If you use a period in your email address, be warned…”

https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2023/09/if-you-use-period-in-your-email-address.html

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2023 9:26 am

Chris Kenny’s angry spray is a true insiders view of the dilemma caused by one way traffic.

…a No victory would represent a fend-off to our Indigenous population. They were promised recognition, engaged in good faith to find a suitable path, made their considered request to the nation, and their fellow citizens will have slammed a door in their face.

Missing in this analysis is that the “considered request to the nation” contains far more than the Voice – self determination, compensation, traditional law – and comes devoid of any information as to how it might improve policy delivery by the States.

Kenny might have been brought along by the process, but bulk Australia has not. Whether by design, or because the Great and Good didn’t consider the Smaller People to have a valid view, it doesn’t matter. The net result is that people have been humbugged and many of them know it.

A nation that has been talking the talk on reconciliation would have been revealed as too timid to walk the walk.

We would have spent decades of consideration and consultation to come up with the desired constitutional amendment, and then strangely rejected it.

Here we are then, with a socially and racially divisive disaster on our hands because bien pensants and the First Nations Industry knew better than to be open and honest with the people paying.

Gilas
Gilas
September 23, 2023 9:27 am

From the OOT..

Davey Boy
Sep 22, 2023 10:10 PM

Those who have volunteered via Fair Australia to assist at referendum “pre-poll” places and at booths on the day itself may have just received an email like the one below (italics). etc….

I agree with Davey Boy, the best we can hope for with the involvement of the SFL is that they remain ineffectual ie. they don’t actively f@ck up the currently effective NO campaign.
I have also received other emails, like the above, from Fair Australia in the last 2 days.
In the interest of keeping Cats informed, below are two more.. (word-wall alert!!)

Dear XYZ,

This could change everything.
The Yes campaign has just bought $20 million worth of TV and radio ads – $3 million in South Australia and Tasmania.
You can help match their spend in these two must-win battleground states.

But at midnight tonight you and I will run out of time to unlock a $250,000 ‘no’ campaign Match Fund promised by supporter Simon Fenwick that will be crucial in the fight against the Voice of Division.

Meeting this target TODAY will unlock critical campaign firepower.
Your generous gift will be matched dollar for dollar, but only if you act right now to help activate this Match Fund.
This is an urgent request.
We can stop them catching up, but only if we keep our foot down.
Your support now will help unlock these vital funds and will mean we have a chance to take them head on in South Australia and Tasmania.

Grateful for you,

Matthew Sheahan
Director, ADVANCE

and

Dear XYZ,

Big banks and billion dollar corporations.

That’s what we’re up against.
Can you believe ANZ announced this week they are donating $2 million to the Yes campaign?
That’s $2 million they made from the interest they charge on your mortgage.
On top of the millions and millions in donations from companies like Qantas, BHP, Rio Tinto and Wesfarmers (the company that owns Bunnings, K-Mart and Target).

That’s how the Yes campaign has added $20 million in advertising to its $100 million campaign.
You and I know there is no grassroots movement behind their plan to divide the country by race.
Instead, they are trying to use this wall of corporate cash to buy a result on October 14.
They will flood the battleground states with expensive TV and radio advertising.

But I know how to beat them.

It’s going to take a lot of work between now and referendum day.
And it’s going to mean you, me, everyone has to turn up and say NO!
Imagine waking up on the Sunday morning after the referendum to the news that they’ve won.
It’s possible. They have the money to spend and tens of thousands of workers thanks to their union backers.

Make no mistake.
They will win if we stay home.
They will win if we don’t give it everything.

You and I know Australians don’t want the Voice of Division in their Constitution.
The only question left is whether you and I will be there to warn them.
So, please. Tell your family, your friends, your work mates, everyone: you have to turn up, you have to vote NO.
That’s how we end this Voice of Division once and for all.

Grateful for you,

Matthew Sheahan
Executive Director, ADVANCE

P.S. Thousands of Aussies have already said they’ll give it EVERYTHING by volunteering for Fair Australia to stop the Voice. Are you with them? Find out more at volunteerforno.com.au.

Regarding Simon Fenwick (who I had never heard of), some more information on him in the AFR, from April.
Naturally, for any paywall issues, 12ft Ladder is your friend here.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 9:28 am

The Brits don’t get enough credit for ending slavery.

I’d wager most youngsters imagine they invented it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 9:30 am

The MCG, like most universities, is not the place for overt displays of free inquiry or thought. Just the way they want it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 9:31 am

Save it for the privacy of the ballot box.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 9:33 am

They were promised recognition, engaged in good faith to find a suitable path, made their considered request to the nation…

Note how Kenny regards the indigenous population as a homogenous group.

They aren’t.

Progressives seem to have a particular difficulty acknowledging this fact.

Makka
Makka
September 23, 2023 9:34 am

A nation that has been talking the talk on reconciliation would have been revealed as too timid to walk the walk.

This is Kenny deliberately missing the point. Making it about race and leftard feelz. This is the very same guilt bullsh*t being rammed down kids throats at our schools.

The No vote is about deceit and people fed up with it. Fed up to the back teeth in fact. Fed up with the squandering of our hard earned and the sleazy ways that we are robbed to fund the parasites in the indigenous industry.

So, STFU Kenny with your lies and guilt trip propaganda. It’s not working but you are just too dense to see it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 9:37 am

The Brits don’t get enough credit for ending slavery.

A book I was reading reckoned the Poms were responsible for around 5% of the African slaves traded, with the Portuguese and Spanish accounting for the bulk mostly going to South America. As usual, the volume of protest bears little resemblance to reality.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 23, 2023 9:38 am

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 23, 2023 8:46 AM
And here’s the thing, most people are too polite to boo.

I wonder how many ‘Nazis’ the pervert apologist plans to punch today? He probably has a list.

He will sub-contract the actual punching to Ante-Fa (comes before fascism), because he is too weak and sickly to do it himself.

Gutless worm (apologies to any worms that are offended by the comparison).

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 9:40 am

A description of a typical slave trading vessel was truly horrific and every instance of slavery should be condemned, irregardless of historical norms.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 23, 2023 9:41 am
JC
JC
September 23, 2023 9:42 am

Dover, stop playing word games. You’re reading into this something that wasn’t there. The Aristocrat directly referred to pensions as an illustration of what’s gone wrong with the US system whereby Ukraine’s pensions are paid while, because of the shutdown America’s aren’t. That’s just bullshit, because US pensions will be paid.

Also, the DoD isn’t sending money to Ukraine, it’s sending equipment over there. I’d be very surprised if any funding (money) goes through the DOD as I would likely move through the Treasury. In a shutdown equipment doesn’t suddenly morph into money.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2023 9:43 am

m0nty

Sep 23, 2023 8:35 AM

Great to hear respectful silence during the Welcome to Country last night at the footy, 

It was taped at 6:30 with effects likes in the outer muted.
A mate at Channel Seven told me that was the plan.

Jorge
Jorge
September 23, 2023 9:43 am

Surveillance of football crowds…not for potential violence, but Wrongthink.

In Hong Kong a few years back when the local youths refused to stand up for the Chinese anthem and made disrespectful noises, plain clothes cops stood in front of the crowd and recorded their behaviour. Dissidents were rounded up later.

The AFL learnt the lesson well.

JC
JC
September 23, 2023 9:43 am

Oh and by the way, I fully support the shutdown. 🙂 Do you?

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 9:44 am

STFU Kenny with your lies and guilt trip propaganda. It’s not working but you are just too dense to see it.

It’s the progressive conceit – they regard anyone who disagrees with them as their moral and intellectual inferiors…too stupid to know what’s right.

We saw it in spades from Kerry O’Brien this week.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 23, 2023 9:46 am

Is the world running out of patience with Zelensky’s ‘blank cheque’ demands?

Poland stops giving arms and US gives a fraction of what Ukraine’s leader asked for as he visits Canada today to win support

. Zelensky landed in the capital Ottawa late Thursday and will address parliament
. It comes after Biden offered more weapons but refused to give ATACMS missiles

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 23, 2023 9:46 am

Roger
Sep 23, 2023 9:33 AM
They were promised recognition, engaged in good faith to find a suitable path, made their considered request to the nation…

Note how Kenny regards the indigenous population as a homogenous group.

They aren’t.

Progressives seem to have a particular difficulty acknowledging this fact.

So-called “Progressives” just lurrrrve their racial stereotypes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 9:50 am

It was taped at 6:30 with effects likes in the outer muted.
A mate at Channel Seven told me that was the plan.

How long before Channel Stokes and Gillon McPolo-Pony run dress rehearsals of the footy for focus group testing before prime time broadcasting?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 9:52 am

It’s the progressive conceit – they regard anyone who disagrees with them as their moral and intellectual inferiors…too stupid to know what’s right.

We saw it in spades from Kerry O’Brien this week.

He does have form.

JC
JC
September 23, 2023 9:54 am

Great to hear respectful silence during the Welcome to Country last night at the footy,

Silence doesn’t mean acceptance.

No real difference.

The Nazi salute, also known as the Hitler salute, or the Heil Hitler salute, was an official greeting gesture performed in Nazi Germany. The salute was carried out by extending the right arm into the air and saying ‘Heil Hitler’.

Shortly after the Nazis came to power, the salute became the official German form of greeting. It quickly spread to public events – although its use in the private sphere was limited and declined throughout the 1930s.

By 1934, special courts had been established to punish those who refused to perform the salute. The punishments ranged from imprisonment in concentration camps to intimidation or fines.

Despite the Nazis punitive efforts, some people refused to perform the salute. August Landmesser publically refused to perform the salute at the launch of a new Germany navy vessel at the Blohm+Voss shipyard in Hamburg in 1936, where he worked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 23, 2023 9:56 am

Surveillance of football crowds…not for potential violence, but Wrongthink

We’ve been there, had it. Behavioural Awareness Officers, introduced to stop people calling umpires flogs.

A thankfully short-lived exercise in idiocy.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 23, 2023 9:56 am

Polls reveal Australians are thumbing their noses at Blackout Bowen’s renewable energy dream as a new generation embraces nuclear power

A recent poll – from the ABC of all places – reveals that those opposed to nuclear power have been relegated to an obsessed, shrinking few, writes Nick Cater.

It would be a mistake to read too much into any online opinion poll, let alone one conducted by the ABC.

However, the poll on nuclear power on Monday’s Q&A should to be allowed to disappear into the dark hole of spent social media posts, where the show’s producers would probably happily put the results to rest.

Of the 16,000 viewers who responded, 61 per cent were in favour of nuclear power, and 32 per cent were against it.

Even if we assume a 20 per cent margin for error, Energy Minister Chris Bowen is among a shrinking minority who believe Australia can achieve its energy ambitions with renewable energy alone.

A more respectable survey by Compass Polling conducted last month confirms that opposition to nuclear power is an obsession of the shrinking few.

Seven out of ten Australians (71 per cent) either favour nuclear or claim to be open-minded.

When Australia’s first nuclear generator begins operation, as it inevitably will, Anthony Albanese and Scott Morrison may be recognised as the prime ministers who did the most to change the public’s opinion.

Morrison’s pursuit of the AUKUS nuclear submarine agreement was the turning point.

Support for nuclear power rose overnight as Australians recognised the synergy of a defence and civil nuclear industry working together.

When Albanese chose to lock the 2050 zero emissions target into law, it is doubtful he would have foreseen the tectonic shift it would cause on the political landscape.

Yet by changing the policy debate about zero emissions from whether we should do it to how, an unlikely partnership has emerged between conservatives and a growing number of those on the Left who think that tackling climate change is too important to leave any option off the table.

The Australian Labor Party is not alone in feeling the discomfort of the nuclear wedge.

An inter-generational war has erupted in the global environmental movement where a new generation of activists challenge their elders’ Cold War hangups toward nuclear power.

Teenage Swedish activist Ia Aanstoot is one of the leaders of a social media campaign to persuade Greenpeace and other legacy green groups to drop their opposition to nuclear energy.

Their campaign was prompted by Greenpeace’s decision to lodge a complaint in the European Court of Justice against last year’s decision by the European Union to classify nuclear power as clean energy, making it eligible for government support.

Aanstoot, who rose to prominence in the School Strikes for Climate Change, has become the face of a “Dear Greenpeace” campaign designed “to pull Greenpeace into the 21st century”.

Makka
Makka
September 23, 2023 9:57 am

Poland stops giving arms and US gives a fraction of what Ukraine’s leader asked for as he visits Canada today to win support

At least the Poles are showing finally some sense. Admittedly they are caught in a shit neighbourhood with a lot of tragic history needing alliances to create protection and economic prosperity. Tough choices some of them.

But, the US appoints a satanist to help build Ukraine’s schools system. For what? To breed a new generation of godless?

You have to marvel at the breathtaking evil that’s running amok in the US at the moment-officially sanctioned and enabled evil.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 23, 2023 9:58 am

Heroic neighbour saves man from unit fire after suspected scooter explosion

34 minutes ago

A man is lucky to be alive after an explosion tore through a unit near the Queensland and New South Wales border.

A neighbour pulled the man through a window of his burning building just after 5:30am on Friday morning.

Paramedics wheeled the victim to a nearby field where he was airlifted to the Brisbane Hospital.

A lithium battery scooter is being blamed for the explosion and fire.

Forensic officers removed the standing electric vehicle for ongoing investigations.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 23, 2023 10:01 am

I’d wager most youngsters imagine they invented it (slavery).

I will wager quite a few believe that the abolition of slavery was engineered by by the slaves, and a handful of forward thinking whites who had listened to their wisdom.

It is like female suffrage, usually depicted as a victory of women – when in fact it was done by the only people with the power to grant it – stale pale males.

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2023 10:10 am

Behavioural Awareness Officers

Good lord Aussie sports administrators must be the most counterproductive muppets.

All of the footy codes we play are a decent product, how they manage to sabotage themselves is bloody bewildering.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 10:14 am

All of the footy codes we play are a decent product, how they manage to sabotage themselves is bloody bewildering.

Small beer compared to what politicians are doing to the country.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2023 10:14 am

…a No victory would represent a fend-off to our Indigenous population. They were promised …

Promised?
By who?
Oh, well.
Just put it over there next to my $275 electricity bill cut.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 10:16 am

Behavioural Awareness Officers
Some minimum wage bozo from a maaates labour hire firm who 2 weeks earlier was doing Covid lockdowns for Chairman Dan.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 10:16 am

The Yes campaign has just bought $20 million worth of TV and radio ads – $3 million in South Australia and Tasmania.

The MSM will love the money but incessant advertising is probably going to have the exact opposite effect they intend.

The Yes campaign’s ad campaign using John Farnham’s iconic hit song ‘You’re the Voice’ is backfiring, new research has found (Sky News, 22 Sep)

Might be good for J&B Hi Fi though, as people have to replace destroyed televisions.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 10:18 am

Just put it over there next to my $275 electricity bill cut.

You haven’t got yours?

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 23, 2023 10:22 am

They were promised recognition

Given only 33% voted for the party that promised it, and I was not one, I do not feel bound by that promise.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 23, 2023 10:23 am

The $275 reduction has a target date of 2025.

By the end of next year the average power bill will have increased by $2,000, and then they will announce a $275 cut.

Promise delivered!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 23, 2023 10:25 am

Obviously I am joking about the above. Labor has no idea how things work and assumed they could deliver something with understanding what is and what is not possible, and why.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 23, 2023 10:26 am

Awareness Officers, introduced to stop people calling umpires flogs.

Correction
‘Bald headed flogs’

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2023 10:26 am

A lithium battery scooter is being blamed for the explosion and fire.

Our recent Fire Safety report contained a useful reminder on the comparative dangers of e-scooter/e-bike batteries.

The battery packs on EV’s are considered dangerous items by the Fire Services – and they do indeed self-destruct in a most spectacular way when they let go. However, EV manufacturers’ product liability/brand self-interest ensures they are heavily engineered not to ‘fail hot’ and they are therefore comparatively safe.

Not so with the battery packs on small appliances, bikes and scooters. These are knocked out from Chinese factories on a ‘cheapest possible’ basis of design – with ‘safety’ coming a distant last.

Nobody at the Golden Farkew E-Scooter Battery Corporation (Shanghai) gives a toss about being sued by someone in Meanjin for supplying an unsafe product. And most (not all) retailers don’t know, or don’t care about the risk.

Unlike EV fires, the vast majority of small battery fires go unreported, usually it’s some sort of near-miss event. You might have a fit-for-purpose convo with the retailer, but who/why report it?

And there they are, in an increasing number of homes.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 23, 2023 10:28 am

‘Bald headed flogs’

Sincers was an umpire?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 23, 2023 10:29 am

Easy, the administrators are the never were any good, wannabes, self promoter’s and grifters.

JC
JC
September 23, 2023 10:29 am

No, you’ve focussed on his example because you don’t like his point that money will still flow to Ukraine even if there is a shut down in the US.

Bad me for explaining his example was completely wrong.

And now you’re quibbling about which department US money flows through to Ukraine (as if that matters) while the shutdown operates in the US.

It’s not a quibble. I’m explaining to you that the DoD is most likely sending equipment over there to help push back the Orcs. It’s not funding that falls under appropriation. Consequently, everything about that Tweet was wrong.

Still, who do you think pays trainers, defence ‘contractors’, etc. in Ukraine?

The US.

What’s paying for the reconaissance, surveillance and intelligence operations conducted by the US in that theatre? It’s not just equipment that is being squandered.

Okay, you don’t like the US involvement in the war. I get that, however talking about pensions as though they won’t be paid is just bullshit. They will.

The shutdown is complex because it impacts almost all on annual appropriation requiring consent from Congress. What falls in and out of that is not easy to reconcile. You ought to be thanking me for explaining pensions aren’t impacted and possibly how equipment transfers many not be considered as part of the shutdown. But no, I’m not.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 23, 2023 10:30 am

(That was a jovially mocking nickname, wasn’t it? Like the manikin thing.)

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2023 10:33 am

That bald headed, mankind wearing, Mariah Carey loving, fascist gnome flog!

Worst of all – an Essendon fan!

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2023 10:34 am

mankini wearing

Damn you autocorrect!

Gilas
Gilas
September 23, 2023 10:35 am

Do Cats really appreciate how the so-called conservative commentariat (eg. J Albrechtsen) has handled the Russell Brand allegations?

As if wanting to pander to the leftards that would kill them on a whim, if they could, we read an awful lot of “tut, tut” moralising about RB’s past and how allegedly vile he had been.
This from people who are never shy in reminding everyone about the Christian tenets of forgiveness and redemption.

Hypocrisy clearly isn’t the sole province of the Left.

There may be also some admission to the fact that RB has had an epiphany from his days of “dissolutism” and has shown himself to have grown and matured as a man, openly admitting fault in his past actions.

The overall impression is that, yes, this is an unfair, nasty social media and MSM witch-hunt but that, really, RB had it coming.

Now, truly compare that to how the leftard commentariat, including the MSM, handles ANY allegations against one of their own.

Conservatives really DO deserve the florid cultural defeat they have suffered, and with bells on!

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 10:36 am

Labor has no idea how things work and assumed they could deliver something with understanding what is and what is not possible, and why.

Meanwhile…

‘Treasurer promises a secure, fairly paid job for everyone who wants one’

– SMH

JC
JC
September 23, 2023 10:37 am

Dover

It doesn’t necessarily mean US personnel stationed in Ukraine will not be paid. We don’t know, and the reason is that the Federal government may have other previously appropriated funds that can be used. As I said, it’s pretty complex and like everything in the US not straightforward.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2023 10:38 am

The shocking state of outback education

If the students at Gamardi are lucky, a teacher will turn up two days a week. For whole months, nobody comes. And then there is the sorry excuse for a classroom. ‘If this was happening in an urban setting, they’d sack the government on the spot.’
By caroline graham tilda colling, and kylie stevenson,
From Inquirer
September 22, 2023
18 minute read
264

‘Today is Tuesday,” the whiteboard says in neat purple letters. Underneath, a student has drawn a map of square houses supporting lopsided roofs. Next to them, a tentative hand has been practising three-letter words: map, bat, cat, fan, ham, sad.

It’s a sight you might see in any school, except this whiteboard isn’t in a classroom. It’s propped up on an overflowing wheelie bin on the veranda because there’s no power, making the schoolroom too hot and too dark to use.

The students at Gamardi, an Aboriginal homeland community in the heart of Arnhem Land in the Northern Territory, about 11 hours’ drive from Darwin, also rarely have a registered teacher. At best, the visiting teacher from Maningrida, a 75-minute drive away, will make it there two days a week. For whole months, nobody comes.

“Education in remote communities is a massive failure,” West Arnhem Regional Council Mayor Matthew Ryan says. “It’s not fit for purpose. If this was happening in an urban setting, they’d sack the government on the spot. It’s appalling. Embarrassing.”

Gamardi has seven students permanently based there. None has ever had access to education five days a week.

“We should be equal,” traditional owner Dale Pascoe says. “I want to see the teachers teach my grandkids to have that knowledge and wisdom.” An urgent upgrade to the facilities also is needed, Pascoe says.

Temperatures here are in the 30s year-round, and the veranda is the only place that catches the breeze, so that’s where the students learn, leaning over bread bags and Weet-Bix boxes spilling out of the wheelie bin to write lessons on the whiteboard.

This afternoon, the kids have gone fishing in the nearby Blyth River. In their absence, the community is quiet except for the crows crying their namesake. Wak wak, they say, repeating the Wurlaki and Djinang word for crow.

“We’re here to be patient,” Pascoe says of Gamardi’s years-long fight for education. “But what we need, what we want, you know, people have to understand.” The cracks in his careful patience are starting to show.

There’s no electricity to power lights and fans in the classroom.

The reason Gamardi’s students don’t have access to power, water or regular teachers is down to one word: school. Gamardi is not technically a school. It is one of 31 Homeland Learning Centres operating last year in the Territory.

An HLC is considered a classroom attached to a public hub school in a bigger community. As a result, they fall through the cracks of education reporting processes. They’re not listed on the My School website and there’s no public record of student numbers, teaching ratios, educational outcomes, facilities or funding. As a result, HLCs bear the brunt of the Territory’s $214.8m annual funding shortfall. There is also no policy that governs how HLCs are established, suspended, closed or reopened.

John Guenther, research leader for education and training with the Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education, estimates about 400 students receive education in HLCs.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2023 10:38 am

From BoN @10:16

“Many of the ‘No’ voters think there is not enough detail and are angry at the lack of clear information for such an important issue. They want clarity not a cuddle,” Mr Parry Husbands said.

This. Where the Leadership Class in its political sophistication has got it so very wrong.

In three weeks, polling tells us there will either be a decisive No, or a narrowly decided result one way or the other.

We have racial division baked in by the Top Men who have misconducted the whole ‘public conversation’. Hopefully it serves as a reminder to the dim farqueres who nominally run the joint, that slogans and smoke and mirrors do not a national debate make.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
September 23, 2023 10:38 am

Kenny is sooo salty that the reconciliation and recognition cheques he and his ilk have been handing out and basking in the halo of for the last decade are about to be cancelled by the populace at large.

shatterzzz
September 23, 2023 10:47 am

“We should be equal,” traditional owner Dale Pascoe says. “I want to see the teachers teach my grandkids to have that knowledge and wisdom.” An urgent upgrade to the facilities also is needed, Pascoe says.

11 hours drive from Darwin .. these folk talk as if they are just an outer city suburb and can’t grasp why no one wants a job in the middle of nowhere ..

Makka
Makka
September 23, 2023 10:48 am

Gamardi has seven students permanently based there. None has ever had access to education five days a week.

This is what the Voice wants us to pay for. To educate these 7 kids they want US to fund teachers on expensive FIFO/DIDO weekly/fortnightly swing rotations, power water electricity, training materials and aids, internet – in short all the modern amenities of our education system. Rather than move or accommodate the kids where adequate education facilities already exist. Multiply this by tens of thousands of cases , and this is just education. Medical and Health? Transport (roads)?

The tip of an immense taxpayer funded gravy train stretching out forever.
Sanctioned and demanded by the revised Constitution. Of every Govt.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2023 10:48 am

Just put it over there next to my $275 electricity bill cut.

You haven’t got yours?

Don’t start.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 10:48 am

A description of a typical slave trading vessel was truly horrific and every instance of slavery should be condemned, irregardless of historical norms.”

I don’t think anyone would disagree with your assertion. However, I’m getting tired, very tired of the deliberate obsession with the Atlantic Slave Trade whilst at the same time refusing to acknowledge that slavery was the historical norm across every ethnic group on the planet, and that the Atlantic slave trade was a historical blimp compared to the brutal, hideous Arab Slave Trade, which began in the 600s and continued until the 1950s. Also, the reason why there aren’t big populations of blacks in Arab countries such as Iraq and North Africa (where, by the way, racism towards blacks is endemic) is because Arab slavers castrated sub-Saharan males immediately, whereas sub-Saharan females were used for either or both domestic servitude and sexual slavery. Nobody today learns about the Zanj Slave Revolt, which was a revolt against the Abbasid Caliphate….

“The Zanj Rebellion was a major revolt against the Abbasid Caliphate which took place from 869 until 883. Begun near the city of Basra in present-day southern Iraq and led by one Ali ibn Muhammad, the insurrection involved enslaved Bantu peoples who had originally been captured from the coast of Southeast Africa and transported to the Middle East, principally to drain the region’s salt marshes.”

Historical sources to do with the Zanj Rebellion are quite solid, the estimated dead from the revolt, between two and three million, mainly sub-Saharan blacks.

Who reads about this? Nobody, because it doesn’t fit the current zeitgeist that slavers were only white….and all white people are evil.

But the thing is, historically slavery had nought to do with race, people were enslaved when land was captured, when tribes lost wars and so on. Millions of Europeans were enslaved by the Berbers from North Africa, their ships roamed as far north as Iceland.

Nothing is taught nowadays, the focus on the British and slavery is all because the British were white. We hear nothing about the Arab Slave trade, oh and today, gifted by the always meddling USA under Obama and Clinton and the UK, there are now sub-Saharan slave markets operating in Tripoli in 2023.

You couldn’t make this shit up.

Here’s a fact, every effing ethnic group on the planet practised slavery until recently, be it the Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Africans, Polynesians and so on. But no, according to progressive critical race bullshit, it was the only British slavers who were evil, despite the British being the only race on the planet to outlaw slavery.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 10:49 am

However, EV manufacturers’ product liability/brand self-interest ensures they are heavily engineered not to ‘fail hot’ and they are therefore comparatively safe.

There was a Tesla fire in NJ this week:

Green Inferno: Tesla Model 3 Engulfed in Flames After Hitting Debris on New Jersey Road (21 Sep)

Another one north of Canberra occurred similarly about a week ago when a Tesla ran over something which fell off a truck.

I suspect driving at speed over failing roads is going to become a big wake up call, since the battery pack is under the floor of all EVs. One decent pot hole and a stone or two and either the car catches fire or you’re up for forty grand for a new battery pack.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 23, 2023 10:51 am

Dogs, horses and football, proper topics of conservation for manly men.

Aye sir. I see Nullawil fell short in the grand final last week. Great effort by them in their first year.
I’m off to watch the grand final between Kerang and Balranald. Balranald smashed them in the second semi to advance. They have the sons of Merv Neagle playing.
As for Kerang, they are looking at a 9th flag since 2010. Last time these two played in the big dance, Balranald literally bashed them. 2 players out with concussion within the first 5 minutes.
I expect something similar to be honest.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 10:55 am

“We should be equal,” traditional owner Dale Pascoe says. “I want to see the teachers teach my grandkids to have that knowledge and wisdom.” An urgent upgrade to the facilities also is needed, Pascoe says.

Pop. 45.

96km from Maningrida, which has a school with 120 employees.

Access could be a problem in the wet season, but otherwise a small bus would suffice.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 23, 2023 10:56 am

Chris Kenny, if you want reconciliation, then urge black fellas to get jobs, to speak English. Take pride in your possessions and life. Not phucking hard.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 11:01 am

Here’s a fact, every effing ethnic group on the planet practised slavery until recently, …

If you don’t think African slavery associated with sugar production stands alone I can’t effing help you.

Rosie
Rosie
September 23, 2023 11:04 am

Not to mention if your children are at three letter words, you aren’t working get out a damn spelling book and teach them yourself.
How do you think all those dreadful isolated colonialists taught their children pre school of the air?
Incidentally isn’t that also an option?

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 23, 2023 11:05 am

Albo has an article in the Daily Tele this morning:

Win for Yes can be a win for us all: Prime Minister Anthony Albanese on the Voice

Nearly 1000 comments so far underneath it, and not one supporting him. Quite a few are calling on him to resign.

132andBush
132andBush
September 23, 2023 11:05 am

Re Monty

Only a collectivist would construe the silence of self preservation to voluntary deeds agreed to without coercion.

Makka
Makka
September 23, 2023 11:09 am

This makes no sense messaging-wise, domestically or internationally.

But it does show more public cracks in the “unified” anti-Russian facade. On the heels of Poland’s decision to pull out of supplying Ukraine. All of this in context of Ukraine’s disastrously expensive failed Summer Offensive.

Roger
Roger
September 23, 2023 11:12 am

Quite a few are calling on him to resign.

Mr. 32% never had a lot of political capital to begin with, his main appeal being that he wasn’t Scott Morrison.

He hasn’t spent wisely.

Makka
Makka
September 23, 2023 11:17 am

“Orcs” = sub human, deviants, = the Nazi de-humanising strategy directed at Europe’s Jewish population = justified actions ….

We all now what happened next.

The mask just slipped.

JMH
JMH
September 23, 2023 11:19 am

Re. “electric” battery fires, I suspect it won’t be long until insurance companies pull the plug with regard to damage caused by said batteries.

This is a sign that will be placed on my property with regard to EVs.

DUE TO POTENTIAL FIRE HAZARD, EVs NOT PERMITTED ON THIS PROPERTY.

PARK ON THE ROAD AND WALK.

Luzu
Luzu
September 23, 2023 11:20 am

Gilas,

Thank you for putting so eloquently into words what has been on my heart and mind since the RB affair came to prominence.

When he was actually doing all this reprehensible s**t, the media was well aware of it AND LEFT HIM COMPLETELY ALONE.

It was only after getting clean, becoming by all accounts a family-oriented man and building quite the following by challenging the structures of power and corruption that currently hold sway over us, only then did the media think it a good use of their time to investigate any possibly criminal behaviour.

Anybody on the Right who looks at these allegations and insists that he had it coming, well, they have missed the entire point. Completely, utterly and entirely.

Cassie of Sydney
September 23, 2023 11:22 am

If you don’t think African slavery associated with sugar production stands alone I can’t effing help you.”

It doesn’t “stand alone”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2023 11:22 am

Chris Kenny, if you want reconciliation, then urge black fellas to get jobs, to speak English. Take pride in your possessions and life. Not phucking hard.

Well said!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 11:29 am

Chris Kenny, if you want reconciliation, then urge black fellas to get jobs, to speak English. Take pride in your possessions and life. Not phucking hard.

Like my aboriginal neighbours. He works 12 hr shifts, they have a young family, a nice set of wheels and a big bike. They’re living life and doing well. I had a nice chat with grandad who was visiting from Dubbo one week, we got along well.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2023 11:33 am

Re. “electric” battery fires, I suspect it won’t be long until insurance companies pull the plug with regard to damage caused by said batteries.

Our body corporate has been advised that excluded event, or special risk premiums is imminent for EV fire damage in building insurance. This is driven more by the consequences of the difficulty in extinguishing the fire than the frequency of occurrence.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 11:35 am

Mr. 32% never had a lot of political capital to begin with, his main appeal being that he wasn’t Scott Morrison.

He hasn’t spent wisely.

Yep. If you want to grandstand and take principled positions for which you’ll never be accountable for join The Greens.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2023 11:39 am

He hasn’t spent wisely.

Indeed.
For a long/term professional politician, who came with ‘canny operator’ marked on the wrapper, Albanese has been spectacularly clumsy.

I guess ‘Not Shorten’ only takes you so far.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 23, 2023 11:40 am

Comment, from Chris Kenney’s article ,in the Oz.

Benjamin2
1 hour ago
For me, it is too awful to contemplate, but I think, sadly, that the country is about to go down this path.

I don’t blame those who are about to vote NO. I think that they are sincere when they feel this is for the good of the country, including indigenous Australians. I blame those who, for selfish political motives, are about to sacrifice the most marginalised communities in our nation.

The furphies are infuriating, but, obviously, convincing.

I just hope that those who have engineered this scare campaign will have solutions for the despair, anger and, I fear, militancy within aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities that will follow a NO victory. I also hope that they will have ways to deal with our decimated international reputation.

Somehow, I don’t think they will care because they will have what this was all about for them. A political win.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2023 11:50 am

If No voters do not boo WTC at the footy, that is entirely consistent.
My position is that footy is no place for political grandstanding of any kind.
If there was no booing that is testament to the patience and tolerance of No voters.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 23, 2023 11:50 am

I just hope that those who have engineered this scare campaign will have solutions for the despair, anger and, I fear, militancy within aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities that will follow a NO victory. I also hope that they will have ways to deal with our decimated international reputation.

I wonder if this commenter realises this applies particularly to Albanese.

If he has gone forth without a Plan B ‘open in the event of No’, it’s the political equivalent of betting the house on Red. Reckless.

Somehow, I don’t think they will care because they will have what this was all about for them. A political win.

I guess we’ll see how Team Albanese conducts itself if the vox pop says No. They’re going to have to shovel carefully, particularly if it lands 60:40; because the polling numbers say that a significant portion of Mr 32%’s base are No-sayers.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 23, 2023 11:52 am

My nomination for Albos race based referendum.

You’re unbelievable.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 11:55 am

I Continually Attack Conservatives gets some pushback.

Berejiklian launches proceedings against bombshell ICAC report (Sky mainpage headline, 23 Sep)

Not a fan of Gladys, but I’m even less a fan of deep state swampies. When even Stephen Loosely is critical you know exactly who they are and where they come from.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 23, 2023 11:56 am

Albo might not have a Plan B. Rest assured da bruvvas will have one.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 12:03 pm

The Coathanger gets more expensive.

Chris Minns justifies toll increase for Sydney Harbour Bridge (Sky, 23 Sep)

Um, why is there a toll on it at all son? It was paid off decades ago. On the other hand anything which keeps people away from Clover’s green-left utopia is a good thing. I haven’t gone there for several years and now I have even more of a reason not to.

Dot
Dot
September 23, 2023 12:10 pm

I agree with Gilas re Brand and with good reason.

Russell Brand’s past isn’t catching up with him.

The allegations are bunk.

Here’s why.

Two TV stations and a newspaper “investigated” Brand in secret for four years, possibly with financial inducements.

No complaints have been made to the police.

The “under aged” claim is not that at all, it was perfectly legal.

One claim was a “medical report”. Not for rape. It was got STI testing.

One claim was an obviously false AI generated audio file.

One claim was an obviously doctored text message.

Brand denies all claims and other witnesses disagree with the accusations and assessments of his character.

Besides the anonymity of the “accusers”, the dishonest is amped up by “Lady” Dinenage and her authoritarian regime instructions to private companies- she is married to a spook (a former Major General).

These false accusations (some of them are mere smearing of facts which just add up to a pile on but would not be criminal acts even if true) are a crime. They are fraud. It is fraud not only to obtain financial advantage dishonestly but to cause financial disadvantage to another by the same means.

There are at least TWO falsified claims and therefore acts of fraud.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 23, 2023 12:13 pm

On Channel 4 being outraged about Russell Brand:

When over a thousand shocked viewers complained about Jordan Gray exposing himself on TV –
channel 4 just laughed about it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 12:15 pm

Bad Penny is sad that the ALP will be unable to fully ravage Australia by 2030.

Penny Wong tells UN climate targets won’t be met by 2030 (Sky, 23 Sep)

Foreign Minister Penny Wong has focused on climate change and border conflicts in her address to the United Nations General Assembly.

Ms Wong said the 2030 Agenda for climate change would not be reached within the agreed time period.

“At the halfway point we have seen stagnation or regression in nearly a third of the targets and we are not on track to meet any of them,” she said.

C’mon Penny that’s not good enough. The gates of hell have been opened! Surely you believe Mr Guterres? He’s remarkably religious for a communist.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 23, 2023 12:16 pm

Dr F at 11:33.
I have been in transit* so this might have already been discussed.
I suspect the Owner’s Corporation issues regarding EVs might not be the slam dunk they should be.
That is, that EVs represent a yuuuuge fire risk so they need to be excluded from the building, or EV owners bear the additional insurance costs.
Remember, we are dealing with Virtuous Planet Savers here, and people who generally like the socialist spreading of costs for their pet causes (EVs, arts projects, whatever).
I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends in a protracted legal battle to force the Owner’s Corporation to accept the risk and pick up the insurance tab.

* Between Japan and here. Not between genders.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 23, 2023 12:16 pm

Um, why is there a toll on it at all son?

Two reasons
1. cost of maintaining it.,
2. the existence of the Sydney Harbour Tunnel, which NSW is still paying off. Make the bridge free, who will use the tunnel?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 23, 2023 12:21 pm

A Kilo class sub and the Minsk seem to’ve suffered cope bumps last week.
Cope bumps seem to be multiplying lately.

Robert Sewell
September 23, 2023 12:23 pm

Cassie of Sydney

Sep 23, 2023 8:46 AM
And here’s the thing, most people are too polite to boo.
I wonder how many ‘Nazis’ the pervert apologist plans to punch today? He probably has a list.

His kind always have lists.
However, they never understand that others might have lists too.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 23, 2023 12:26 pm

Highly recommend the interview John Anderson has done with Anthony Dillon. Via YouTube etc.

Probably one of the best I have heard on Aboriginal matters.

Robert Sewell
September 23, 2023 12:31 pm

Lotocoti:
https://twitter.com/cj_dinenage/status/1704092016764670139
“We understand that the police are now looking into…”
Weasel words. If you KNEW, you would say so.
She is stepping up to a line that is marked “Lying to Parliament.”
And she’s done it to herself, in her haste to curry favour with the Communists in the media.

JMH
JMH
September 23, 2023 12:34 pm

According to Fire Rescue Victoria: “Victoria’s fire services are responding to an average of one significant lithium-ion battery fire each week, and this trend is expected to increase.” (My bold)

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 23, 2023 12:42 pm

I see Daily Telegraph got an article up about today’s No rallies.

Anybody attending and any feedback?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 23, 2023 12:44 pm

….Sep 23, 2023 11:50 AM
I just hope that those who have engineered this scare campaign will have solutions for the despair, anger and, I fear, militancy within aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities that will follow a NO victory….

Soyjack in written form.
Dear Mr Kenny.
Things are screwed now for some individuals of Aboriginal background.
Granting group rights to cure the pathologies of broken individuals won’t work.
$90,000,000 a day and you claim no one knows how to make things better?
What you really mean is you are uncomfortable with societies norms being enforced or encouraged which will, for 90% of that afflicted individuals, ensure they have lives comparable to most other Aussies.

It’s the same ” compassion” that leaves junkies/ alcos etc plaguing the streets of capital cities because enforcing norms makes you feel icky.

The fact Aboriginal people have a higher % of disfunctional members can only be cured by targeting those individuals, not by assigning group privelidges.

There are pockets of dysfunctional individuals in every group, yet you don’t think assigning group rights to them will fix their pathologies.
Why would it for Aboriginals?

JC
JC
September 23, 2023 12:49 pm

I don’t particularly like EVs. We just bought new a petrol engine car. Are EVs really catching fire as much as people here are suggesting?

A recent study by US insurer, AutoinsuranceEZ found that hybrid cars had the worst fire record, while EVs were the least likely type of car to catch fire. Hybrid cars had 3474.5 fires per 100,000 sale; petrol cars had 1,529.9 fires per 100,000 sales and EVs had just 25.1 fires per 100,000 sales.19 June 2023

I actually believe that hybrids would be the worst and the reason is that the engine fit out is incredibly complex.

This one could be self-serving. Dunno

Australian firm EV FireSafe tracks passenger electric vehicle battery fires worldwide. From 2010 to June 2023, its database records only 393 verified fires globally, out of some 30 million electric vehicles on the road. Australia recorded only four electric vehicle battery fires over the same period.

Gizmodo

EV Fires Are Actually Much Less Common Than Petrol and Diesel Car Blazes

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 23, 2023 12:49 pm

Dot

Dinenage and her authoritarian regime instructions to private companies- she is married to a spook (a former Major General).

What intelligence related post did the Major General hold? There are lots of current and former Major Generals in the British Army. Very few of them are likely to have held an intelligence posting at that rank.

Don’t go all “Ed Case” without some actual evidence.

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