Open Thread – Wed 27 Sept 2023


The Old Burgtheater, Gustav Klimt, 1889

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2023 12:04 am

Air hellair!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2023 12:09 am

Well this is early!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 12:19 am
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 27, 2023 12:22 am
JC
JC
September 27, 2023 12:52 am

China didn’t even participate in the arbitration, and as I remarked above to Zatara, the Taiwanese themselves rejected the decision because they make the same claim over the same area.

China is a signatory to the convention!

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 12:58 am

All the claimants are militarizing their disputed islands. The only one that garners attention is the one that threatens the US’s regional hegemony.

It must be like reading the old communist daily.

No one gives a shit about the other players because they’re no capable of causing the same mischief China can and is, so why do you think the focus is on China?

Is there any connection to this view that China is now aligned with Russia?

No they player is claiming ownership and demanding other nations obey its dictate under the threat of military actions.

Alamak!
September 27, 2023 1:07 am

All the claimants are militarizing their disputed islands. The only one that garners attention is the one that threatens the US’s regional hegemony.

Same pattern will be deployed close to Australia (East Timor) and same threat to energy and goods trading routes will be used by China if it can get away with it.

I don’t believe any other player in the region has ability or motive to threaten Australia so it makes sense to focus on China and resist its bullying now.

Zatara
Zatara
September 27, 2023 1:30 am

All the claimants are militarizing their disputed islands.

No, they aren’t, other than perhaps a symbolic presence such as a police force or a weather detachment to demonstrate their sovereignty. Why? Because they would be pissing in the wind if China decided to seize their islands (such as China did when they took the Paracel Islands from the South Vietnamese in 1974 when the Viets were distracted with other things).

China didn’t even participate in the arbitration

They didn’t show up because they knew they didn’t have a case. But it doesn’t matter, the findings of the Tribunal are legal and binding under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

Know why else they didn’t show? Because they knew they were going to get burned at the stake for the massive ecological damage they were doing to the marine environment with their do it yourself island building. Again, in violation of international law. And they did:

The Tribunal considered the effect on the marine environment of China’s recent large-scale land reclamation and construction of artificial islands at seven features in the Spratly Islands and found that China had caused severe harm to the coral reef environment and violated its obligation to preserve and protect fragile ecosystems and the habitat of depleted, threatened, or endangered species. The
Tribunal also found that Chinese authorities were aware that Chinese fishermen have harvested endangered sea turtles, coral, and giant clams on a substantial scale in the South China Sea (using methods that inflict severe damage on the coral reef environment) and had not fulfilled their obligations to stop such activities.

Taiwanese themselves rejected the decision because they make the same claim over the same area.

Nope. The only portion of the Tribunal ruling that Taiwan rejected was the classification of Itu Aba as a “rock” under the UNCLOS definition and thus not entitled to an EEZ. China agreed with this rejection, likely because many of their claimed features were declared rocks as well.

Further, Taiwan has not militarized either of their 2 island possessions in the South China Sea. Nor do they make the same Territorial/EEZ claim as China and nor are they abusing their neighbors in the area. China is.

Moreover, guess who else’s claims overrun the other claimants? Vietnam’s overlaps Malaysia’s and the Phillipines’s claim but the only one that warrants denunciation is China’s.

By international law EEZs can only extend 212 miles from the Nation’s coast. China’s claim extends almost 1000 miles from their coast. The others are obeying the law, China isn’t. So, yeah.

If anyone is guilty of hegemony in the South China Sea it certainly isn’t the US.

Zatara
Zatara
September 27, 2023 1:49 am

“…the findings of the Tribunal are legal and binding under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS)”

Sorry, I should have referenced my response:

Article 288 of the Convention provides that: “In the event of a dispute as to whether a court or tribunal has jurisdiction, the matter shall be settled by decision of that court or tribunal.”

Article 9 of Annex VII to the Convention provides that: If one of the parties to the dispute does not appear before the arbitral tribunal or fails to defend its case, the other party may request the tribunal to continue the proceedings and to make its award. Absence of a party or failure of a party to defend its case shall not constitute a bar to the proceedings. Before making its award, the arbitral tribunal must satisfy itself not only that it has jurisdiction over the dispute but also that the claim is well founded in fact and law.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 2:43 am

In fact, RFK is toying with the idea of running on the Libertarian Party ticket as their candidate. I read this a few days ago and don’t know if it’s progressed any further. RFK will not be the demon nominee.

JC, I would rate this as unlikely.
Dave Smith has inserted himself into the LP.
He & his controlling faction are not so hot on RFK Jr, even though many people connected to him have given him air time.

Malice is tight with Smith & spent a the weekend a few weeks ago retweeting RJF Jr anti 1st & 2nd amendment tweets.

RFK Jr only became big on the 1st amendment during COVID.
And he is not a fan of the 2nd amendment.
With those credentials, the LP wouldn’t let him in the door.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 2:53 am

FIFA World Cup 2026 Host Cities

Atlanta
Boston
Dallas
Guadalajara
Houston
Kansas City
Los Angeles
Mexico City
Miami
Monterrey
New York / New Jersey
Philadelphia
San Francisco Bay Area
Seattle
Toronto
Vancouver

Make a market in which of the 3 bolded cities will have more sports tourists killed or assaulted or robbed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 3:02 am

How much of Dan Andrews decision to step down is connected to a certain car/bike accident?
Is it a case of a deal being cut with the incredibly corrupt VicPol?
Keep in mind that Dan Andrews recently green lit the shutting down of the office that was investigating the Gobbo/Lawyer X affair.
Was that the prid pro quo for being able to skate on the bingle?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 3:34 am

History has been manipulated. For the record, I don’t believe the earth is flat.

—–

My Lunch Break:

Today, we dive into an insane narrative that has master slave builders. Then we take a trip and get our boots on the ground in Oshkosh Wisconsin where they have the Tartarian symbol right on the front of their building! Thank you for liking, commenting and subscribing and to all the badge members and Patreons for making this trip possible!

Welcome to Tartaria, Wisconsin?

Petros
Petros
September 27, 2023 3:52 am

Are people really celebrating his departure in Melbourne?

Petros
Petros
September 27, 2023 3:54 am

There seem to be a lot of uraniophiles on this blog. When do we cash out? Will Bowen stuff it all up? Hopefully his actions here won’t matter as it’s a global market.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 4:02 am

Once you know about it, you’ll never forget it. You’ll be scratching head and be going, OMG!

Or you’ll be a tourist reading a brochure and soaking it up all the BS.

JonLevi:

Evidence of the Old World (Part One)

Gabor
Gabor
September 27, 2023 4:21 am

Steve trickler
Sep 27, 2023 4:02 AM

Evidence of the Old World (Part One)

Should’ve known better. Wasted 10 minutes.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 4:28 am

Gabor
Sep 27, 2023 4:21 AM

MSM consuming di*khead,

Gabor
Gabor
September 27, 2023 4:47 am

Steve trickler
Sep 27, 2023 4:28 AM

Gabor
Sep 27, 2023 4:21 AM

MSM consuming di*khead,

Hardly, Steve.
I think it’s bunkum that’s all.
But why do you have to be abusive when someone disagrees with your choice of topic?

Some of your links are great, not all.
Peace brother.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 4:50 am

Gabor
Sep 27, 2023 4:47 AM

All good.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 5:04 am

Anyone that thinks Tartaria was a myth?

D*ckheads!

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 5:10 am

Keep in mind that Dan Andrews recently green lit the shutting down of the office that was investigating the Gobbo/Lawyer X affair.

Not a good look for someone who doesn’t want to be associated with certain secret ethnic crime gangs, given how many convictions she tainted.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 5:18 am

Trump is literally now Mr Scaramamga.

I reckon Bond would go for a Glock too, a fifth gen slim frame subcompact chambered in .380 ACP using heavy solid copper 95 grain subsonic.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 5:20 am

Accurised rounds for Mr Bond too.

Petros
Petros
September 27, 2023 5:28 am

How loud are subsonic rounds for handguns?

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 5:39 am

Louder than the movies. You still hear the primer go bang.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 6:12 am

Poland starts initial process to extradite the now Canadian Waffen SS chap.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 6:13 am

Rolling Stone publishes RFK Jr interview.
May or may not be a hit piece.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 27, 2023 6:50 am

You must have small hands to go for the Glock, Dot.

Rosie
Rosie
September 27, 2023 6:50 am

Tartaria isn’t a myth, it’s a novel made up pile of nonsense for incessant internet consumers.
As long as another trusted blogger is making a buck though.
Don’t trust those books.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 6:58 am

Karen wants to speak to the manager:

British Actress Cathy Tyson Says Calling Someone ‘Woke’ Is Just as Bad as ‘Offensive Racial Slur’ (26 Sep)

“The terms ‘woke’ and ‘race card’ are deeply offensive to me,” she added, noting that the latter “is thrown in your face if you make a criticism of anything,” while the former is used to “undermine” progressive ideology.

Lady I’d say progressive ideology is eminently worth undermining and ridiculing. Interesting how this is evolving. It started out as a term used proudly by Dunning-Kruger sufferers who thought they were so amazing for climbing aboard whatever vapid bandwagon was trendy at the time. Now woke has gotten sufficiently rancid that they don’t want us to say it. How long before it goes onto the censors’ lists?

mem
mem
September 27, 2023 7:04 am

Where’s Tom? I miss him.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 7:07 am

Where’s Tom?

Surgery.
He’s transitioning.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:14 am

I will never be great at guitar or piano.

I should have been a mechanic. 🙂

Rosie
Rosie
September 27, 2023 7:15 am
calli
calli
September 27, 2023 7:16 am

Woke is as good a word as any for purveyors of populist nonsense of the SJW kind. And economical with pixels also.

Race Card is simply a modification of a sporting term – it means “shut up and go away because I don’t have the wit to argue with you”. Again…economical.

Why do people like Mz. Tyson like many…many words? So they can pose and display “towering intellects” while hiding their real intent behind them. Orwell was onto this tactic nearly a century ago. He knew the value of simple speech.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:17 am

I’m surprised the SpongeBob drill rap didn’t get more likes.

Dude is better than most musicians and screenwriters today.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 7:20 am

poses questions about how art and culture might heal oceanfront land facing existential threat from climate change

Miss! Miss! Pick me!

Answer – it won’t.

And eventually all that carefully woven, rapidly deteriorating junk will itself be put into landfill.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:26 am

Queen Laufey is why we protect Tiger Moms.

Look at the results!

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 7:27 am

I’m in caffeine deprivation world right now.

It’s “you don’t have the wit to argue with me”. Saves a lot of time, and both sides throw it about.

Also, thanks for your thoughts on Japan yesterday rosie. If ever you return, go in late March/early April.

There’s a good travelogue on Verona marooned on the dead thread also.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2023 7:29 am

Tartaria!:

The Tartaria Conspiracy Theory has its roots in Russian Pseudoscience, with mentions of the Empire of Tartaria first appearing in Russian conspiracy theorist Anatoly Fomenko’s New Chronology.

Nikolai Levashov later spread his work around in his racial occult history.

This led to a belief that Russia was Tartaria, whose real origins were covered up by the West. Later, the Russia Geographical Society later debunked all these claims, dismissing this conspiracy theory as an extremist fantasy.

And:

According to the proponents of this theory, Tartaria was a giant race of technologically superior beings who existed on Earth long before we came into the picture. Some even suggest that we devolved from them after the “Great Flood of Mud.”

Uh huh.

Many aspects of the Tartaria conspiracy theory have been attributed to conspiracy theorists misreading historical maps or not having enough knowledge of certain historical events.

Still, avid believers would tell you that this is the work of certain forces trying to cover up our world’s more-enlightened past.

Avid believers indeed.

If you asked any Tartarian conspiracy theorists why there are no solid pieces of evidence of this lost city of Tartaria, they would all give you two answers, the Great Mud Flood and the Great Cover-Up. So, who would want to hide the existence of this technologically advanced race?

The common answer to that would be modern Western world powers like France, the United States, and Germany.

Brilliant. Apparently, according to the Tartaria Q people, Napoleon’s invasion of Russia in 1812 and WWI were both attempts to cover up the REAL TRUTH about this giant race of architects.

The bow ties are spinning at 12000 rpm this morning.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 7:30 am

Rosie.


The area was strewn with the debris of family feasts and ceremonies, creating myriad ancestral middens over thousands of years.

Translated into 4 Chan…

The bedroom was strewn with crusty tissues and piss jugs, creating an Incel midden over dozens of weeks…

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 7:33 am

Apparently, according to the Tartaria Q people, Napoleon’s invasion of Russia in 1812 and WWI were both attempts to cover up the REAL TRUTH about this giant race of architects.

Thanks KD.
Dark Emu has more credibility than Tartaria.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 7:35 am

Canadian Speaker resigns. Trudeau convinced him to take one for the team. The dozens of other Canadian Parliamentarians and Canadian elites seen cheering on the former SS member are curled up under rocks, out of sight.

I hope the Poles stand firm with their extradition plans for Hunka. But I suspect the NATO tribe will twist their arm and they will end up not rocking the boat.

A truly disgusting episode.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:38 am

The bedroom was strewn with crusty tissues and piss jugs, creating an Incel midden over dozens of weeks…

The tissues are fine, I draw the line at piss jugs.

Like David Bowie, you should store your piss in jars in the fridge, so a wizard like Jimmy Page can’t steal it. Then it can’t be used in magic rituals.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 27, 2023 7:38 am

B B But Rosie, Shirley if it’s on the internet it must be true.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:41 am

Did the TARTARIANS use directed energy weapons on 9/11 and at the OK City bombing?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 7:41 am

Ok Dot, but you get the job of threading them onto string for the exhibit.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 7:42 am

News from the art world.

What if Monuments Actually Looked Like Things? (Daniel Greenfield, 26 Sep)

Well to me the sculpture does look like an actual thing, but I think that’s all I can safely say.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:42 am

Don’t google the My Little Pony baby batter jar. Well, not at work.

Justin Whang has video about it on YouTube.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 7:43 am

Why do people like Mz. Tyson like many…many words? So they can pose and display “towering intellects” while hiding their real intent behind them.

You flatter them a little.
The nearest such persons get to ‘real intent’ is the ‘pose’ stage – Moi, Moi, Moi.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 27, 2023 7:45 am

Just heard a constituent of jugears on the radio. She thought the arsehole Andrews did a good job. In what universe has Andrews done anything good. That was another thing on Dolt last night, that useless turd Kroger and Dolt gave praise to Andrews political nous. What a bunch of turds. Giving credit for running the place into the ground. Did they mean if a SFL had done the same thing it would have been ok coz politics. FMD.

Bear Necessities
Bear Necessities
September 27, 2023 7:46 am

Canadian Speaker resigns. Trudeau convinced him to take one for the team. The dozens of other Canadian Parliamentarians and Canadian elites seen cheering on the former SS member are curled up under rocks, out of sight.

I hope the Poles stand firm with their extradition plans for Hunka. But I suspect the NATO tribe will twist their arm and they will end up not rocking the boat.

A truly disgusting episode.

Given how slow the courts are the probability is that he won’t make it to Poland. The Speaker wouldn’t have the resources to vet an individual and would accept the advice from the PM’s office that ‘Hunka’ was ridgey didge. I can see a few resignations from the PM’s office from this.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 27, 2023 7:47 am

Justin Whang? Is that the guy with the short dick?

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
September 27, 2023 7:52 am

Who would have thought, that giving a Waffen SS soldier, (from a unit that burned 1,000 Poles alive), a standing ovation in the Canadian Parliament, would upset people? Wow.
The Speaker of the Parliament, is going to take the hit, evidently.

The Mammy singer, has called this “a terrible mistake”.
Of course, the very “non Nazi” ‘elensky, has also apologised profusely and also claimed that it was all, a terrible misunderstanding.

No, ….., wait, ……, nothing at all, from the mouth of St Volodymyr the Pure.
Golly gosh, I wonder why?
Those Azov guys wouldn’t have anything to do with it, ……, would they?
They are NOT Nazis at all. No way. Those insignia on their tanks etc are not Nazi symbols. They are “ancient Egyptian”.

Last November, Russia put forward a motion in the UN, to “Oppose Nazism”.
A no brainer, right?
Under our intellectually challenged PM, and our vile Foreign Minister Wong, how do you reckon Australia voted?
Yep, ……, we abstained! Makes you feel kind of proud, doesn’t it?

In 2022, that is where we sit politically.
We do NOT even support a motion, to Oppose Nazism.
Un-F%#king believable!!!!!!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 7:52 am

The cars of the future!

At least one new Tesla battery remains on fire at the $60 million Bouldercombe Battery Project, located next to Powerlink’s substation, and it is understood fire crews have been advised not to put it out.

Five Queensland Fire and Emergency Services crews rushed to the site about 7.30pm on Tuesday after receiving reports of a fire.

As of 6.20am on Wednesday, it is understood they continued to remain on standby and watch the contained blaze after receiving Tesla advice to let the fire burn out. One crew remained on scene on Wednesday morning.

The crew is monitoring the fire, which remains contained to one battery.

QFES is also speaking to management who is on scene.

Police said the fire is believed to have started in a lithium battery storage unit and was causing hazardous smoke in the immediate area.

They said they would continue to monitor the situation as there are a large number of batteries on site and there is a possibility the fire may spread to other units, creating a larger hazard.

Courier-Mail

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 7:53 am

I think there’s probably more historical evidence for some place called ‘Narnia’ than some place called ‘Tartaria’. It’s a conspiracy theory, and a batshit, bullshit one.

By the way, the word “Tartar” comes from Mongolia, the Tartars were/are a Mongoloid tribe that originated in Mongolia and swept westward with the Mongol armies in the 13th century. They are probably closely related to Uighurs. Before the Tartars arrived, the land that conspiracy idiots call “Tartaria”, which is the area around the Black Sea and particularly north of the Crimea, was inhabited by Slavs, Scyths, Greeks, Persians, Vikings, Jews, Arabs, and so on. Tartars’ came later, much later.

‘Tartaria’ is on a par with Atlantis. It’s pseudo racist rubbish.

As an aside, and this has been proven through archeology, and language studies etc, the area north of the Crimea, which now forms part of Russia and Ukraine, a gigantic steppe, is probably the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans. These people then migrated into Eastern and Western Europe, south into the Caucasus and modern day Iran, and then they broke through into the sub-continent (the Aryan tribes).

History and archaeology is interesting enough without having to make up batshit bullshit rubbish like “Tartaria”.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:55 am

Queen Laufey is a twin.

My god.

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2023 7:56 am
Rosie
Rosie
September 27, 2023 7:57 am

Dumb Tartarians couldn’t even predict and plan for a mud flood.
Incidentally what is ‘certain forces ‘ code for?

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:57 am

The Mammy singer, has called this “a terrible mistake”.
Of course, the very “non Nazi” ‘elensky, has also apologised profusely and also claimed that it was all, a terrible misunderstanding.

1. Mammy? Biden called LL Cool J … “boy” the other day.

2. Z is Jewish.

Pogria
Pogria
September 27, 2023 7:57 am

Well to me the sculpture does look like an actual thing, but I think that’s all I can safely say.

Bruce of Newcastle,
the sculpture is missing Mapplethorpe’s Bullwhip. It looks empty without it. 😀

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 7:58 am

Part of Andrews’ legacy, from The Age;

In 2016, the North East Link was to cost “up to $10 billion”, but its price tag is now $16.5 billion. The West Gate Tunnel ballooned from $5.5 billion to $10 billion.

The Metro Tunnel’s 2015 business case said it would cost $7.5 billion, but it will cost $12 billion. And the Suburban Rail Loop when announced was to cost $50 billion; its first stage alone, covering just a third of the total proposal, is budgeted at $34.5 billion.

Add to that the destruction and trauma from his covid terror. Families ruined, the deaths from his incompetence and corruption, the approved thuggery unleashed by his Vikpol… it goes on.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 7:59 am

Monty is about to arrive and say “they got him now!”
I won’t bother linking the story.
Mueller refused to touch that particular ham sandwich, which tells you how flimsy it is.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 8:00 am

Tom if you’re lurking in pre-op…all the best.

Hopefully you won’t be put under with “Total Eclipse of the Heart” belting out from the theatre playlist. 😀

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 8:00 am

GreyRanga
Sep 27, 2023 7:45 AM
Just heard a constituent of jugears on the radio. She thought the arsehole Andrews did a good job. In what universe has Andrews done anything good. That was another thing on Dolt last night, that useless turd Kroger and Dolt gave praise to Andrews political nous.

I suppose Bolt and Kroger can call it nous if you buy all the positive media coverage and employ an army of media troops to police the internet and airwaves. Personally I would call it censorship.

Chris
Chris
September 27, 2023 8:01 am

Well to me the sculpture does look like an actual thing, but I think that’s all I can safely say.

What, like the Paris Buttplug?

I have words but won’t insult our host by using them.

Pogria
Pogria
September 27, 2023 8:01 am

I like Tartaria Sauce with my Fish n Chips.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 8:02 am

Tartaria probably isn’t as silly as Khazarian conspiracy theories.

There are some hard to explain artefacts and people can’t explain them, the conclusions however can range from sensible to beyond silly.

I think the “mud flood” can be discounted by looking at the Grand Canyon.

The mud flood stuff is a distraction from real things like the younger dryas and melt water pulse 1a.

There are some historical quirks that seem very peculiar, like old newspaper reports of the US being intentionally populated with a large population of orphans.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 8:02 am

In Communidy Battery news:

Tesla battery on fire at Bouldercombe energy storage site, Genex confirms

A Tesla battery continues to burn at one of Queensland’s first large-scale battery storage sites after it caught fire last night.

Police were called to the incident in Child’s Avenue in Bouldercombe, about 23 kilometres from Rockhampton at 7:45pm.

Officers said the fire caused hazardous smoke to spill out into the immediate area and nearby residents were urged to stay indoors and keep respiratory medication close by.

“On advice from the Queensland fire brigade and protocols provided by Tesla, the fire is being allowed to burn out under the supervision of the fire brigade,” a spokesperson said.

What we really need is hydrogen and batteries. Luckily, in Queensland, that’s what Our Lady Palacechook is giving us.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 8:04 am

Sorry for repeating, TE.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 8:09 am

Cassidy Hutchison lies just keep on coming.
Total fantasist.
That said, Brennan & Clapper told bigger lies under oath.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 8:10 am

It’s the reverse Chris Rock.

Rock: Men tell more lies, women tell bigger lies.
Men: I’ll just have two beers.
Women: I’m pregnant with your baby.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 8:12 am

Tesla advice to let the fire burn out. One crew remained on scene on Wednesday morning.
————-
They said they would continue to monitor the situation as there are a large number of batteries on site and there is a possibility the fire may spread to other units, creating a larger hazard.

Has anyone thought of removing the batteries? Though I suppose wherever they are moved would become a danger zone. How unextinguishable cars are considered acceptable to be parked in crowded cities is beyond me. Eventually we will see another great fire of London or like the one following an earthquake in Kobe in Japan.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 8:12 am

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 26, 2023 10:45 PM
This is first class work:

Kamahl AM @OfficialKamahl
·
Is it true 4 decades there has been almost no discernible improvement in the lives of Indigenous Australians?
“In fact, if the NDIS or Medicare were delivering outcomes as bad as this $100 million a day, there would be a Royal Commission.” If so,why not one now?

Crikey this bloke is good.

Untrue. There has been significant improvement in the lives of indigenous Australians living in developed, urban areas (that is, assimilated Australians with some indigenous ancestry). There has been almost no discernible improvement in the lives of indigenous Australians living in remote communities (“on country”) and in camps near rural towns.

The focus of indigenous policy is on those already doing well, not those being left behind.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 27, 2023 8:13 am

Surely a story squarely within the Beeb’s specialist
disinformation correspondent’s wheelhouse.
Perhaps she’s taking a WEB.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 8:14 am

What we really need is hydrogen and batteries. Luckily, in Queensland, that’s what Our Lady Palacechook is giving us.

We are living through the 1930s again with many more Hindenburgs on the horizon.

Rosie
Rosie
September 27, 2023 8:15 am

Where they giant orphans?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 8:15 am

Dumb Tartarians couldn’t even predict and plan for a mud flood.

You, young lady, haven’t the faintest idea about the sheer power of the Great Cover Up. I expect you don’t even realise why you get so many downticks…

Pogria
Pogria
September 27, 2023 8:16 am

Mem,
Tom said he is having a minor plumbing problem repaired. 😀

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 8:16 am

I like it too – as fantasy.

Here’s Donovan. Hard to believe this was a hit back in the day.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 8:17 am

2. Z is Jewish.

So what was Z doing cheering on and fist pumping for a volunteer of the SS?

You keep promoting this rubbish Z the Jew argument, dotty. After this revelation you should confine it to the bullsh*t file. It’s a very perverse Jew who honors the SS.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 8:17 am

Where they giant orphans?

LOL

Made me spit my lapsang souchong everywhere!

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 27, 2023 8:18 am

So Tartar sauce that I put on fish cocktails is some sort of echo of a former civilisation that were advanced in the production of condiments? Pretty impressive.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 27, 2023 8:19 am

Maybe they invented chicken salt.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 8:19 am

Something to tide Dot over till the new series of handmaidens tale comes out.

While the Men Are Away review – jaunty, queer take on wartime Australia
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2023/sep/26/while-the-men-are-away-review-jaunty-queer-take-on-wartime-australia

Her position as farm proprietor is only semi-safe as long as she is Harry’s wife, otherwise she may be rounded up into the prisoner-of-war camp being built on the neighbouring land by Harry’s brother Des (Benedict Hardie), a squirrelly, small-minded man desperate for Frankie’s affections. Des is just one of the threats Frankie and co face, as their would-be paradise comes under pressure from the forces of patriarchy, racism and homophobia. Even with most of the men away, prejudice remains.

Sounds like a glittering turd in a punchbowl of FTA mediocrity.

Rosie
Rosie
September 27, 2023 8:20 am

The improvement could simply be more successful urbanites identifying.
It’s also very clear that rural and remote elders have had a considerable say in program delivery with few discernible improvements.
Improvements of course would diminish the inflow of taxpayer funds.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 8:21 am

The focus of indigenous policy is on those already doing well, not those being left behind.

Those left behind are necessary to justify spending taxpayer funds on those already doing well. Without the left behind pockets the aboriginal industry stops and we save $40B per year. That’s a lot of Gucci gear for Linda Burney.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 8:22 am

Zelensky is Jewish, no amount of poor decision making or terrible PR optics by himself nor his backers like Truedeau can change that.

If we’re going to talk about bullshit arguments being pushed, let’s talk about Russia deNazifying Ukraine and dog whistling to idiots getting excited about “Khazaria” whilst at the same time saying that Ukraine isn’t a real country.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:23 am
Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 8:25 am

Her position as farm proprietor is only semi-safe as long as she is Harry’s wife, otherwise she may be rounded up into the prisoner-of-war camp being built on the neighbouring land by Harry’s brother Des (Benedict Hardie), a squirrelly, small-minded man desperate for Frankie’s affections.

Sounds like another post piss up ablution from Tim Winton.

The bastard kills trees for his tripe to be immortalised. He should be forced to hand chisel each copy onto a stela.

Jock
Jock
September 27, 2023 8:27 am

Crossie. They are the size of shipping containers and when burning will put out heat in excess of 1000c . I’ll let you go in with the crane hook!

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 8:28 am

“So what was Z doing cheering on and fist pumping for a volunteer of the SS?

You keep promoting this rubbish Z the Jew argument, dotty. After this revelation you should confine it to the bullsh*t file. It’s a very perverse Jew who honors the SS.”

Correct. Zelensky is a court Jew. His Jewishness means nothing. Z would have known the history of the battalion Hunka served in, of that I am 100% sure. I’m glad Poland is preparing extradition papers. Here are some basic facts….

1. Anti-Semitism or, as I prefer to call it now, just plain old fashioned Jew hatred, has a long, long history in Ukraine, a history that pre-dates any ‘Soviet oppression’. It’s a history of pogroms, massacres, and blood libels. Between 1919 and 1920 alone, over 100,000 Jews were butchered in Ukraine.

2. Many Ukrainians willingly enlisted in the SS. Ukrainian Waffen SS units participated in the slaughter at Babi Yar and elsewhere. Ukrainian guards were the guards of choice in extermination camps.

3. But whilst the focus was on murdering Jews, these Ukrainian SS squads also murdered, en masse, Poles in Western Galicia, Hungarians and Gypsies.

4. There are many reasons why some countries, particularly in Eastern Europe, are tepid about supporting Ukraine. Whilst the West has trivialised or forgotten its history, as witnessed a day or two ago by a Canadian Parliament honouring a man who’d once joined the Waffen SS (and who, no doubt, if stripped naked you’d still see his SS tattoo), most other countries on the planet don’t forget their history, and they have very clear collective historical memories. Poland and Hungary, whilst not enamoured of Russia, are also not enamoured of Ukraine.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 8:28 am

I’m almost certain BitBoy (Ben Armstrong) is Martin A Armstrong’s son.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:28 am

Zelensky is Jewish

So what?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 8:31 am

Good read indolent

VDH is always worthwhile.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:34 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 27, 2023 8:34 am

Seems a few people will be going to VIC Parliament house today at 5pm to celebrate Andrews departure.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 8:34 am

Latvia and Azerbaijan, WTF were you thinking!?

55,000 and 70,000 SS volunteers a piece.

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Waffen-SS_foreign_volunteers_and_conscripts

mem
mem
September 27, 2023 8:35 am

I’d be interested in how many of the so-called renewable projects in Australia are linked to the CCP.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/09/25/ford-pauses-construction-michigan-battery-plant-linked-chinese-communist-party/

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:36 am

Remember all the films they used to make about how prized a Green Card was and how hard to get?

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul Assigns 250 National Guard Members to Fast-Track Illegals to Work Permits

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 8:37 am

So what?

This is dotty’s bulletproof / boilerplate argument that Z cannot possibly be leading a Nazi tainted regime in Ukraine.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 8:38 am

Is it true 4 decades there has been almost no discernible improvement in the lives of Indigenous Australians?

Interestingly (or not), when we arrived in Australia over 4 decades ago, I was struck by pieces in the Courier-Mail celebrating ‘the first’ qualified Aboriginal nurse, or University Graduate in such-and-such, and so on.

This may, or may not, be a good proxy for ‘improvement’, and I’m not sure whether these were firsts, or how many people who might now identify as Indigenous, but then didn’t, had already followed down the professional channels. But 40-years on, this sort of achievement is completely unremarkable in the context of Aboriginal Australians.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 27, 2023 8:39 am

Seems a few people will be going to VIC Parliament house today at 5pm to celebrate Andrews departure.

Rotten tomatoes?

P
P
September 27, 2023 8:40 am

Dan Andrews leaves behind an anti-life, anti-faith, anti-Catholic legacy
By Monica Doumit – September 26, 2023

Please God, his successor will not be so openly hostile to human life, marriage and family and to the Christian faith, and that the future will see the Andrews premiership as an aberration, not a baseline.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 8:41 am

Teachers evacuated from APY Lands after violence between rival families

Exclusive
By greg bearup
Feature writer, The Weekend Australian Magazine
@gbearup
8:02AM September 27, 2023

The policing of the remote APY Lands of South Australia has been labelled “absolutely appalling” by community leaders after alcohol-fuelled violence erupted between rival families on the weekend and the police “were ­nowhere to be found”.

“If police don’t start putting on proper services into these communities then someone is going to get killed,” said Richard King, chief executive of the Apy Lands Council.

Teachers and other government workers in the Indigenous community of Mimili were removed for their safety over the weekend after violent clashes between rival families.
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Other government staff were removed from Kaltjiti.

“Following unrest in the Mimili community late last week, the Department for Education decided to bring forward the end of the school term at Mimili Anangu School,” a spokeswoman said.

“Term three had been due end on Wednesday 27 September, however it has not been open this week. All staff were offered the opportunity to travel to Adelaide to participate in professional learning and wellbeing sessions. However, some of the school’s Anangu Educators chose to remain in the community. Eight other staff, including the school principal, did travel to Adelaide and have been provided with a range of support.”

Mr King said a violent confrontation between the feuding families – a feud which goes back many years – “happened around the school grounds and around the (teacher’s) houses on the weekend, fuelled by alcohol”.

People armed with clubs and axes were facing off against each other and the young, mainly female teachers barricaded inside their caged houses were terrified.

“Police phones were just off and they were nowhere to be found; that’s not a police service,” Mr King, who is Indigenous, said.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 8:42 am

thefrollickingmole
Sep 27, 2023 7:30 AM
Rosie.

The area was strewn with the debris of family feasts and ceremonies, creating myriad ancestral middens over thousands of years.

In my Canberra days, I used to joke about the West Belconnen Archeological Repository, aka the tip. Seems I was ahead of the latest archeological terminology!

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 8:43 am

Makka
Sep 27, 2023 8:37 AM
So what?

This is dotty’s bulletproof / boilerplate argument that Z cannot possibly be leading a Nazi tainted regime in Ukraine.

Except I never said that. Our friend from the Russian consulate was implying Zelensky isn’t Jewish.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 8:44 am

That was another thing on Dolt last night, that useless turd Kroger and Dolt gave praise to Andrews political nous.

The journalists at Andrews’s presser gave him a round of applause at the end.

And not because they were sorry to see him go.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 8:47 am

Rufus T

Last November, Russia put forward a motion in the UN, to “Oppose Nazism”.
A no brainer, right?
Under our intellectually challenged PM, and our vile Foreign Minister Wong, how do you reckon Australia voted?
Yep, ……, we abstained! Makes you feel kind of proud, doesn’t it?

I look forward to angry condemnation of this “Nazi adjacent” act from our resident Nazi puncher (legend in his own very large lunchbox).

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 8:48 am

Ukraine & the Baltic states were willing participants in the push east by Germany and the barbarity.

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 27, 2023 8:48 am

Deathly Dan needs to get his next job in land far far away.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:49 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 8:50 am

B’Hell – Just Got Home & Contents Insurance Renewal – Change on Last Year 34.8%

AirBusAlbo, Blackout Bowen and Chalmers & Australian Labor Party

Trying to be Diktator Dan Andrew and emulate him – AFR Daniel Andrews trashed Victoria’s finances – John Kehoe – Economics editor

Victorians will pay a hefty price for decades after state gross debt explodes to $239 billion, as borrowing costs for governments hit the highest rate in 15 years.

Rather than spend $375 Million on Divise Voice Referendum – How about concentrate on Cost of Living

Don’t get my Wife going on cost of Groceries, or me on Electricty up 40%, Gas $40% now House Insurance 34.8% – What $275 Saving on Electricity?

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 8:50 am

People armed with clubs and axes were facing off against each other and the young, mainly female teachers barricaded inside their caged houses were terrified.

Which is obviously the fault of the police. The axes and clubs magically found themselves in the hands of drunks who had been forced to drink copious amounts of alcohol by evil someones.

Take responsibility for yourselves, people. This is where the problem lies, not with “policing”. Grow up.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 8:55 am

Take responsibility for yourselves, people. This is where the problem lies, not with “policing”. Grow up.

That was my first reaction on reading the article, indeed, calli.

Police are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 8:55 am

Daniel Andrews trashed Victoria’s finances

Victorians will pay a hefty price for decades after state gross debt explodes to $239 billion, as borrowing costs for governments hit the highest rate in 15 years.

John Kehoe – Economics editor

Retiring Premier Daniel Andrews is leaving behind a nasty financial cocktail for his successors and future generations of Victorians.

Victoria’s non-financial public sector gross debt is forecast to blow out to $239 billion by 2026-27, just as global borrowing costs for governments have hit the highest rate in 15 years due to inflation angst.

Andrews exits with the second-largest state facing annual interest costs of $8 billion and rising.

Victoria has the highest public sector debt-to-revenue ratio of the states and the worst credit rating at AA, after being downgraded two notches by S&P Global Ratings during his world-record pandemic lockdown.

Gross debt has more than quadrupled from below $50 billion less than a decade ago.

To be sure, Andrews “big build” delivered lots of roads, bridges and tunnels with his borrowing binge to fund union-dominated infrastructure projects. Now, projects are facing massive cost blowouts and the bill will need to be paid.

He has left Victoria’s budget in an unsustainable position, after splurging big during the pandemic lockdowns and significantly expanding the size of the public service.

It’s a case study in a strongman premier running the state without any accountability from a hopeless Liberal opposition.

Andrews banned gas exploration and extraction, jeopardising the state’s energy security. He blamed the big gas exporters.

Andrews committed eye-watering sums to pet projects such as the controversial Suburban Rail Loop that avoided any rigorous cost-benefit analysis. It was devised by PwC consultants before the 2018 state election and bypassed the traditional public service assessment.

It was classic Andrews: doing deals with his political mates and riding rough shod over financial due diligence.

He blew $1.1 billion cancelling Melbourne’s East West Link road project and $380 million on compensation for cancelling the 2026 Commonwealth Games.

Victorians will now face decades of higher taxes.

The states have such terrible tax bases that it will inevitably be employers and property owners who will be hit with higher payroll and land taxes.

Big employers are already paying billions extra for a state “mental health levy” – paradoxically paying for the social damage caused by Andrews’ lockdowns.

Victoria’s recent tax hit list of landlords, Airbnb owners, holiday home owners and private schools will be only the tip of the iceberg to get the state’s finances under control.

The $239 billion gross debt now faces interest rates of about 5 per cent when it is refinanced, compared to 1 per cent during the pandemic.

But Andrews blamed former Reserve Bank of Australia governor Philip Lowe for encouraging the states to borrow big during the pandemic.

Andrews went cap in hand in April for a financial bail-out from the federal government, but Prime Minister Anthony Albanese politely declined.

Memories of early 1990s

Privatisations will be necessary – counter to Andrews’ 2022 election ploy to “bring back” the government-owned State Electricity Commission to invest in green energy projects. Ten months after the election, Andrews is leaving and the SEC is nowhere to be seen.

Victoria’s economy has been largely built on a massive population expansion. But in per person terms, gross household disposable income is languishing at seventh out of the eight states and territories, according to the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

The financial demise of Victoria is reminiscent of the early 1990s when the stricken State Bank of Victoria, its merchant banking arm Tricontinental and the collapsed Pyramid Building Society rendered the state almost bankrupt under the Labor government of John Cain and Joan Kirner.

Liberal premier Jeff Kennet turned around the state. His Labor successors Steve Bracks and John Brumby continued responsible fiscal management.

But the socialist Andrews has demonstrated a lack of respect for taxpayer money and for the financial health of Victorians – current and future.

As political commentator and former Kennet adviser Stephen Mayne observed: “Victoria’s finances are much worse than when John Cain quit, but somehow Dan has managed to leave on his own terms and govern without being held to account for imperilling the state’s public sector viability going forward.”

Andrews has left an unprecedented financial legacy for Victorians that will be felt for decades. Consequences, without accountability.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 8:58 am

Take responsibility for yourselves, people. This is where the problem lies, not with “policing”. Grow up.

Passivity bred by welfare dependence.

The APY lands are also shut off from the outside world – no entry without a permit.

God only knows whet else goes on there.

A recipe for hell on earth, courtesy the good intentions of progressives.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 8:58 am

It’s a case study in a strongman premier running the state without any accountability from a hopeless Liberal opposition.

And a compliant fawning Business sector. Who obediently bowed before him at every opportunity.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 9:02 am

Rosie
Sep 27, 2023 8:20 AM
The improvement could simply be more successful urbanites identifying.
It’s also very clear that rural and remote elders have had a considerable say in program delivery with few discernible improvements.
Improvements of course would diminish the inflow of taxpayer funds.

I’m sure that self-identification has a lot to do with the urban improvement, but not all of the change.

As for the rural and remote elders having a considerable say in program delivery, much of that “delivery” seems to be self-improvement. See the Quadrant story on the many luxuries of Yunupingu. He would not have been the only “improved” elder.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 9:02 am

The APY lands are also shut off from the outside world – no entry without a permit.

The article pointed out that the APY lands are “dry”, but the grog runners bring in the hooch from outside, and it’s the coppers job to stop that.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 9:04 am

This is not quite correct.

…Ukraine & the Baltic states were willing participants in the push east by Germany and the barbarity….

The boxheads still considered the Eastern people’s as scum to be dealt with later. Which is sort of lucky, if they had gone in ” hearts and minds” from the first they would have had many, many more men ready to fight for them. ( largely due to the appalling Stalinist system).
Instead they were happy to use the unofficial militants and police units to slaughter Jews/gypsies etc but didn’t really consider forming units of regular troops until circumstances forced them to.

I do have a tiny amount of sympathy for the Ukies at the time, either pitch in with the boxheads or prepare your anus for the red army pineapple on its way.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 9:08 am

Russell Brand on the background to the Ukraine war. It’s up on YouTube but I’ve linked Rumble.

So, It’s Over Then

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 9:15 am

Makka
Sep 27, 2023 8:58 AM

It’s a case study in a strongman premier running the state without any accountability from a hopeless Liberal opposition.

And a compliant fawning Business sector. Who obediently bowed before him at every opportunity.

Hypocrites – Updated

Business cheers as divisive Andrews bows out early

Polarising Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews will hand power to his handpicked deputy Jacinta Allan after blindsiding rival factions with his shock resignation on Tuesday after nearly nine years in the job.

Ms Allan, from Mr Andrews’ Labor Socialist Left faction, is expected to be elected unopposed as interim premier on Wednesday and to support a continuation of the outgoing premier’s policies and projects.

Outgoing Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews showed “strong” leadership in tough circumstances during the pandemic, business heavyweights say, but also sometimes made poor decisions because of his “autocratic style”.

His shock resignation on Tuesday would enable a change of leadership at Spring Street – which, regardless of whether they supported Mr Andrews’ decisions, the industry leaders said showed good governance and renewal.

Mr Andrews had a tense relationship with the business sector over his extensive COVID-19 lockdowns, which forced many outfits to close and stymied economic recovery.

“It’s easy to get emotional – but, trying to be balanced, he’s done many good things,” leading businessman and former Toll boss Paul Little said. “But his autocratic style meant that he didn’t always make the best decisions.

“You either accepted it and moved on with Andrews and his team, or you bore the consequences.”

Catapult founder and chairman and outspoken lockdown critic Adir Shiffman suggested Victoria was still suffering under Mr Andrews’ decisions.

“My greatest wish for Melbourne, and more broadly for Victoria, is that today marks the moment that we stopped digging our own collective grave and can now begin the long climb out of this deep, deep hole,” he posted on LinkedIn.

He said the next premier should cancel the Suburban Rail Loop as a “first order priority”, recommence work on Geelong and Melbourne Airport links and disband the State Electricity Commission, which was brought back by Mr Andrews.

“That would be a good first day for the new premier,” he wrote.

But Mr Andrews’ go-to director James MacKenzie acknowledged that while the outgoing premier divided people, he had shown strong leadership in an “activist” government.

“Anyone who leads is going to divide people. The alternative is appeasement where no one wins,” he said.

“He’s led an activist Labor government that dealt with the issues that had to be dealt with … in so many ways and on so many occasions, he has shown real political leadership.”

Rich Lister and property developer Max Beck, who is considered to be among Andrews’ inner circle of confidants, agreed.

“There’s no rehearsal for that, and he didn’t sign on for it. He was sticking to the journey. That’s better than wandering all over the plan [in response to] public opinion. Have you ever tried to keep 6 million people happy? That’s what he was trying to do,” he said of the lockdowns.

Time for renewal

Regardless of their views on Mr Andrews’ decisions as premier, the business leaders agreed the time had come for new blood on Spring Street.

Reserve Bank board member and property sector leader Carol Schwartz said that Mr Andrews had been “a very strong leader in what has been a particularly challenging time”, but that leadership changes were in line with good governance principles.

“As we know from the corporate world, refreshing and regeneration of leadership is important and a sign of good governance,” she said.

“I think he has built a strong team around him, so he probably feels confident in the ongoing leadership of the party by his successor and the team that’s in place.”

Mr Little also threw his support behind Victorian Labor’s current senior leaders. “I would like to see the team stay in place. Tim Pallas and Ben Carroll in particular are strong ministers. It would be good for the team not to be dismantled,” he said.

Despite being part of an inner circle who had urged Andrews to stay the course as pressure mounted this year, Mr Beck also agreed that Mr Andrews had chosen the right moment to quit.

“It was about time. I think personally he was very tired. The family had had a hell of a run. They used to have security at the house all the time.”

But Tony Barry, a director of political consultancy and polling firm RedBridge Associates and campaign manager of the Liberal Party’s failed 2018 state election bid, suggested Mr Andrews had timed his departure to enable him to orchestrate what came next.

“Every political leader cares deeply about their own legacy and Daniel Andrews is no different. He gets to go out on his own terms while handing the premiership to his chosen candidate in Jacinta Allan,” Mr Barry said.

“Everything he’s ever done as leader has been an exercise in controlling the narrative, including his exit from politics.”

Mr Andrews came under frequent criticism during his reign for micromanaging his government, with his office having a larger staff and more sign-off than is typical for a premier.

Infrastructure legacy

Looking ahead to Mr Andrews’ legacy, business people praised his government’s commitment to infrastructure expansion.

“I think he’s been an exceptional leader, and he’s made decisions that will make Victoria a strong state for the future,” said Telstra director Elana Rubin, who worked closely with Mr Andrews.

“He’s been a strong investor in infrastructure, which will drive the economy going forward, and been a leader in addressing long-standing social issues and always been prepared to make the tough decisions.”

Mr Beck singled out the Andrews’ government infrastructure investment as one of its enduring legacies.

“He’s poured a lot of concrete, a lot of infrastructure projects. Not just talked about them.”

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 9:15 am

Police are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t.

After the Rolfe case, good luck getting police to go in against knives and axes anywhere in Outback so-called “communities”.

They can get the Elders and Aunties and other wise people to do their policing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 9:15 am

The boxheads still considered the Eastern people’s as scum to be dealt with later.

This is correct.
Also correct:
…Ukraine & the Baltic states were willing participants in the push east by Germany and the barbarity….

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 9:16 am

Makka
Sep 27, 2023 8:58 AM
It’s a case study in a strongman premier running the state without any accountability from a hopeless Liberal opposition.

And a compliant fawning Business sector. Who obediently bowed before him at every opportunity.

An extreme leftard premier maaaaaates with Big Business? Don’t worry, just part of the Great Reversal.

Traditional solid Labor seats are open to any party that can offer a mix of cultural conservatism and economic policies focused on small businesses, tradies, and employees, with a genuine (NOT NDIS scale) safety net.

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2023 9:16 am

Duncan McRae
8:19?AM (56 minutes ago)
to me

I don’t know how, but I stumbled across a language/accent nerd who pinpoints just the type of nazal Australian speech which is spreading through TV presenters, and gets right up my nose (literally — that nasal back-of-head noise ‘norrh’ for ‘no’).

As one of the commenters on the video points out, its a Sydney Northern Beaches accent – akin to the ‘valley girl’.

The “r coloured goat dipthong”.

https://youtu.be/z7DuvWVazpk?t=478

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 9:19 am

Dan Andrews has resigned as Premier of Victoria, leaving an abysmal legacy, especially from his tyrannical Covid lockdowns.

How will he be remembered? He will be despised, says Alan Jones. – 2 mins 7 secs of Memories of Dictator Dan Andrews

For more, go to http://ADH.TV. Video by @TheMilkBarTV

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 9:21 am

A correspondent writes:

See some unpleasant woman is suing Trump for $250,000,000 and wants lifetime ban for him and all his children from having a business in the state of New York.

Me: WTF!?

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 9:22 am

Business cheers as divisive Andrews bows out early

Reading that made me feel ill. If ever you wondered if we live in a fascist system, that article should dispel any doubts. Business, Govt, Media, Law enforcement… all lined up opposing or oppressing the citizens.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 9:22 am

The article pointed out that the APY lands are “dry”, but the grog runners bring in the hooch from outside, and it’s the coppers job to stop that.

And why do many of the residents want to regularly drink themselves stupid?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 9:22 am
Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 9:27 am

Business cheers as divisive Andrews bows out early

Leaving Victorians with the second lowest disposable income per household in Australia and the largest state debt.

Doesn’t say much for the acumen of these business “leaders”.

One can only surmise that they did quite well out of Andrews, regardless of the rest.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 9:28 am

An extreme leftard premier maaaaaates with Big Business?

Andrews is far more totalitarian despot than he is lefturd. As I said yesterday, Tony Soprano sans the personality.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 27, 2023 9:32 am

Duncan, I notice female radio newsreaders have that awful droning voice. It appears to be a FM radio chick affectation.

I noticed it years ago when a certain female would do commercials for channel 10 advertising Big Brother and The Project. It is now everywhere.

Don’t get me started on blokes voices.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 27, 2023 9:36 am

After saying No to the racially discriminatory Voice to Parliament, surely the next step is to get rid of the racial discrimination in the workplace that ironically is permitted by the Racial Discrimination Act of 1975.
Example below in “eligibility” section:
https://jobs.csiro.au/job/Brisbane%2C-QLD-Indigenous-Research-Grants-Project-Officer-%28Identified-Role-Indigenous%29/944157610/

Okay, I guess anyone who actually is Aboriginal would have an unfair advantage in attaining “knowledge of Indigenous Cultural and Intellectual Property”, but that would mean that no special racial appointment process would be needed. They’d just hire the most knowledgeable person for the job.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 9:38 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 9:41 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 9:41 am

Uncle Luigi moulding the narrative:

Australian prime minister says he’s confident Indigenous people back having their Parliament ‘Voice’

The setup for post-Referendum rationalisation:

Nothing to do with me, why would it be? I always said that it was what Indigenous people wanted and I kept out of the public debate, just as I said I would – so my judgment is excellent, and Bill and Tanya can stay in their boxes.

It was dog whistling by the Racists Opposite that energised misinformation that confused 10.35 million stupid bastards who wouldn’t know a generous offer to the Government I Lead if it bit them the messaging.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 9:46 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2023 9:47 am

Woke is as good a word as any for purveyors of populist nonsense of the SJW kind. And economical with pixels also.

‘Woke’ is the word they made up for themselves!

So what they are really objecting to is the fact that other people don’t admire them for what they worship in themselves.

How woke!

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 27, 2023 9:48 am

Stick to your lane, Daily Telegraph:

A spate of captain’s call decisions by Sydney Mayor Clover Moore to donate $450,000 in ratepayer funds to international aid, amid a cost-of-living crisis, has sparked backlash from locals.

The Daily Telegraph has uncovered a series of mayoral minutes calling for council to hand over ratepayer funds to international charity efforts – with $200,000 allocated since January.

Liberal councillor Shauna Jarrett said the mayor was “virtue signalling with ratepayer’s cash”.

“Clover is very good at finding loopholes in the Local Government Act to provide funding internationally,” she said. “Ratepayer’s money should only be used for local government issues, it shouldn’t be within our powers to send this money overseas.

“We have real issues in our on backyard with a cost-of-living crisis and some of the highest rates of homelessness in the country in our local government area.”

This month, Ms Moore sought $25,000 in disaster relief funds for Oxfam Australia’s Morocco Earthquake Appeal and $25,000 for UNICEF’s children’s emergency appeal in Libya.

Ratepayers hit out over council’s use of public funds being donated to international crises – citing Sydney’s own cost-of-living crisis.

It comes as the latest census data revealed homeslessness rates in the CBD rose to 3598 in 2021.

Anne Nicholson said while international crises are “important”, she would like to see local issues funded first.

“Clover, show us the spending spreadsheet,” she said. “You can’t be seen as a successful society if local people are suffering.”

Jamie Cranney said while $200,000 this year was not a massive amount, funds should be focused on Sydney’s homelessness crisis.

“I think the cost of living crisis and the affordability of housing should be the highest priority that I would want funds allocated to,” he said. “It would be interesting to see the breakdown of spending.”

In March, council approved $50,000 to Save the Children Australia fund for Vanuatu, $50,000 to UNICEF following the Syria and Turkey Earthquake Appeal and $50,000 to the Australian Red Cross for the same earthquakes.

It can be revealed Ms Moore allocated $250,000 for international aid in 2022, including $50,000 to Oxfam Australia’s Pakistan flood relief fund, $50,000 to UNICEF’s Pakistan flood fund, $50,000 to the Ukrainian Council of NSW, $50,000 UNICEF’s Tonga Recovery Appeal and $50,000 to Oxfam Australia’s International Crisis Fund for Tonga.

Council gifted $300,000 to local natural disasters in 2021.

A council spokeswoman said it makes donations to international crisis relief “as Australia’s global city, with expatriate communities from all over the world”.

She said the funding represented 0.03 per cent of council expenditure.

“The overwhelming majority of the City of Sydney’s expenditure goes toward local issues whether through our own work, or direct and in-kind funding for local businesses, events, initiatives and organisations,” she said.

“(International) donations comply with (council’s) Support for Charities Policy.”

The council has donated $3.8 million to Australian charities since 2010, while a total of $1.3 million was allocated to “international communities” impacted by natural disasters and health crises.

When asked, Ms Moore did not disclose how much she had donated personally to local and international charity efforts.

Melbourne Council representatives confirmed no ratepayer funds were sent overseas to support international aid.

Well what a relief Melbourne Council hasn’t done anything like this. That we know of. Gawd almighty.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 9:50 am

the grog runners bring in the hooch from outside, and it’s the coppers job to stop that.

In other words the people in the APY lands are unable or unwilling to police and govern themselves.

The miscreants are people from within the community, not outsiders who are barred entry. The only desirable non-residents are the ones who offer education, medicine, policing, building and maintenance…all legacies of the evil colonialists.

They like our “stuff”…they hate us.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 9:50 am

They can get the Elders and Aunties and other wise people to do their policing.

In a “culturally appropriate” fashion.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 9:51 am

A spate of captain’s call decisions by Sydney Mayor Clover Moore to donate $450,000 in ratepayer funds to international aid,

Someone’s got their eye on a UN type sinecure.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 9:51 am

Dr. John Campbell

ONS UK data

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 27, 2023 9:51 am

All staff were offered the opportunity to travel to Adelaide to participate in professional learning and wellbeing sessions.

I’m guessing the profession learning won’t include bokken
nor the wellbeing sessions the philosophies of iaido.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 9:52 am

Voice to Parliament referendum 2023: When will we know the result?

An AEC spokesperson told news.com.au the commission does not know when a result would be clear, as it depended on how the numbers fell and if there was an overwhelming result on either side.

Postals and overseas have two weeks to filter into the count.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 9:53 am

I noticed it years ago when a certain female would do commercials for channel 10 advertising Big Brother and The Project.

Gretel Killean?

flyingduk
flyingduk
September 27, 2023 9:57 am

B’Hell – Just Got Home & Contents Insurance Renewal – Change on Last Year 34.8%

Yep, my rates went up 50%, car insurance 36% and house insurance 30%. Something has to break and soon.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 9:57 am

They like our “stuff”…they hate us.

We supply what their own culture had never invented…

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 9:59 am

Someone’s got their eye on a UN type sinecure.

She’s 77. Not going to leave council with someone attaching a steel wire cable to her and hooking it up to an Abrams tank. I suspect she’d quite like a Davos invite though.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 9:59 am

Without not with. Grr. She’s a limpet stuck to a rock.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 10:05 am

Yep, my rates went up 50%, car insurance 36% and house insurance 30%. Something has to break and soon.

Reported yesterday that the savings buffer people built up during the lockdowns is rapidly being depleted; calls to food banks are up, as are requests to power companies for extensions on bills.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 10:09 am

https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1706731325670277256

Watch how Canada’s Deputy PM Freeland (of Ukrainian heritage) bumbles and dodges the question regarding opening an investigation into just how many more former Ukrainian SS soldiers are enjoying sanctuary in Canada.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 10:14 am

Knuckle Dragger
Sep 27, 2023 7:29 AM
Tartaria!:

Face it. You gobble up his-tory dished out to you like a sheep. I wonder why Henry Kissinger used the Tartarian map on the cover of his book, World Order?

Trolling?

STFU!

All those buildings before horse and cart.

Keep us up to date with footy scores.

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 27, 2023 10:16 am

I don’t think it was Gretel, Calli. It was on mid north coast regional FM, but the voice is a droning, monotonous voice that seems to populate FM radio these days. We rightly whack the ABC these days, but the likes of Margaret Throsby had wonderful voices. Which reminds me of her interchanges with Clive Robertson back in the day. He had a mellifluous radio voice too.

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2023 10:23 am

Vietnam still has issues with Chinese claims on the Paracels — its interesting to see multi-lingual posters explaining their claims in many tourist spots in Vietnam today.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 27, 2023 10:24 am

Jacintorians,
You recall the seemingly interminable Danistan era.
With the dictator getting re-elected with ever increasing margins.
Were most Danistanis so struck with Stockholm syndrome that they genuinely voted for him, or were the elections rigged?

Chris
Chris
September 27, 2023 10:26 am

You don’t have to dive that deep to see how propanganized we are about matters like the South China Sea dispute.

Propagandized?
More like ‘misinformed’ due to quick takes from pig-ignorant mass media. If it took you only 2 days to get a much fuller picture, its totally accessible to journalism graduates (and their editors), to inform us better.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 27, 2023 10:27 am
Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 27, 2023 10:31 am

Knight 2
Commenters –
I wonder how many people would love to play a round of golf on Dan?
Asking for a friend
There would be a lot of golfers wanting to be in the next group following Dan and a lot of late calls of “Fore”as they aim for the retard.
any stairs on a golf course??
a 7 iron behind the ear would work well
A 4 wood gets a great result

Johnny Rotten
September 27, 2023 10:31 am

A spate of captain’s call decisions by Sydney Mayor Clover Moore to donate $450,000 in ratepayer funds to international aid,

Try using that money to fix all of the broken and uneven paving stones on the footpath up and down George Street in Sydney between Central and Half Circular Quay. And placing more rubbish bins along the way and keeping the place clean of rubbish. FFS.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 10:36 am

Bonkers!

My Lunch Break:

Ancient Budapest?

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 27, 2023 10:39 am

If ever you wondered if we live in a fascist system, that article should dispel any doubt.

Makka Johnson is right!

No doubts at all. Viktoristanis will get more Dan-ish premiers and more taxes until morale improves.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 27, 2023 10:40 am

Sounds like Tartaria was the Wankhanda of Europe.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 10:41 am

Were most Danistanis so struck with Stockholm syndrome that they genuinely voted for him, or were the elections rigged?

You can see that Dan found the pit of OPM very handy to create jobs in Vic. So I think many held their noses and voted for the despot while he kept the money spigots wide open. In that respect, yes he certainly “rigged” elections.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 10:47 am

lotocoti
Sep 27, 2023 10:40 AM
Sounds like Tartaria was the Wankhanda of Europe.

Worldwide.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 10:50 am

The generally reliable English reporter on Catholic Church matters, Damian Thompson, believes Francis’s pontificate is going to be defined not by the ongoing “synod on synodality” (2021-2024) focused on listening to young people and women in particular, but by his alleged protection of a clerical abuser of nuns, a story that has until recently been stifled by liberals in the Vatican press corps.

Can the Pope survive the Rupnik scandal?
Rome is wondering what he knew about historic crimes
BY DAMIAN THOMPSON

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 27, 2023 10:52 am

T-Man scores an F.

Former United States president Donald Trump has been found guilty of fraud in a civil case bought against his company, the Trump Organisation, by the state of New York.
… Trump allegedly inflated his net worth by about $3.5 billion, although one measure put it as high as $5.6 billion, over the ten years from 2011 to 2021.

… [his lawyers] They claimed Ms James should not have been allowed to bring the suit to begin with as there was no evidence the public had been harmed by Trump’s actions and that many of the allegations were barred by the statute of limitations.

Never let the rules get in the way of a bad story, eh?

Not up next on the news: Bill Gates dispensing medical advice without a licence, Nancy Pelosi doing insider trading, and Ray Epps inciting vandalism of the Capitol.
Yes m0nty I know that counts as a “whataboutism” but gosh there’s so many whatabouts about, y’know.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 10:59 am

“A spate of captain’s call decisions by Sydney Mayor Clover Moore to donate $450,000 in ratepayer funds to international aid,”

Of course Clover indulges in this, it’s pure unadulterated virtue signalling. Meanwhile, there’s quite a few homeless men and women, mainly men, and mainly white men, sleeping rough on Sydney’s CBD streets. $450,000 could go a long way helping these people but she seems uninterested in them. I wonder why?

You see, if you want an example of the complete shallowness of modern progressivism, Clover is it! She seems to have swallowed every progressive puke point My mother knows Clover quite well, they’ve had a robust relationship over the decades, neither woman have ever been shy in tendering their forthright opinions, and when they’ve come face to face, they’ve been like two bulls running amok in a china shop!

However, Clover is quite likeable, she’s just been in that position for too long. To be fair, when she first ran as Lord Mayor back in 2005 she initially did some good things. The CBD was shabby, and the Council had been used as a political stepping stone by the likes of amphibian scum like Kathryn Greiner and the vile Lucy Turnbull. Neither of these women lived in the inner-city, whereas Clover had lived in Redfern since the early 1980s. People like Clover because she did understand some of their problems, she knew the area.

Meanwhile, back to the homeless dotting Sydney’s streets. I suppose helping them simply doesn’t earn any brownie points in Progressive Puke Land.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 11:22 am

Roger
Sep 27, 2023 9:22 AM
The article pointed out that the APY lands are “dry”, but the grog runners bring in the hooch from outside, and it’s the coppers job to stop that.

And why do many of the residents want to regularly drink themselves stupid?

There is nothing else to do in those communities, no jobs that require effort and punctuality. In pre-colonial times they had to find food or starve, food is now brought to them. The only thing they have left to do is bear grudges.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 11:26 am

Makka
Sep 27, 2023 9:51 AM
A spate of captain’s call decisions by Sydney Mayor Clover Moore to donate $450,000 in ratepayer funds to international aid,

Someone’s got their eye on a UN type sinecure.

I don’t think so, Clover is 77 years old so hardly a good candidate for anything at the UN. I am appalled that she is still the mayor at her age but the will to power seems to be the most powerful motivator of our age, simply enjoying life is not an option to these people.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 11:31 am

flyingduk
Sep 27, 2023 9:57 AM
B’Hell – Just Got Home & Contents Insurance Renewal – Change on Last Year 34.8%

Yep, my rates went up 50%, car insurance 36% and house insurance 30%. Something has to break and soon.

I just got my car insurance renewal notice, up 25% on last year.

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 11:32 am

Noted on my computer desktop this morning the link to the template for a NSW Travel Permit from the Covid era. We had to fill it out to be able to access our farm during those incredible years. Click on &, of course, it has been disabled.

But I am leaving it on my desktop. Lest we forget.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 11:33 am

Steve, that is not a watch. It’s a stylised flower. Decoration. The rose, or “Catherine” window is also not a watch. They began as oculi, but as they got larger were segmented and glazed.

As for flamboyant architectural design, these things all go through phases and fashions. I can’t count the number of buildings I’ve seen all over the world that follow similar patterns, many pinched from antiquity. In addition, looking at the Trevi and speculating on “perfect” human form…isn’t that what the artist is celebrating?

What I find most disturbing though is the narrator’s insistence on some type of “secret knowledge” and that it’s sooooo obvious that naysayers are dumb (taps nose). If it’s that obvious we’d all know about it.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 11:36 am

Colonel Crispin Berka
Sep 27, 2023 10:24 AM
Jacintorians,
You recall the seemingly interminable Danistan era.
With the dictator getting re-elected with ever increasing margins.
Were most Danistanis so struck with Stockholm syndrome that they genuinely voted for him, or were the elections rigged?

I suspect that all those people leaving Victoria for other states are the ones who have had enough of Labor generally and Andrews in particular. That would naturally result in the remaining people being Labor voters who now make up a greater fraction of the electorate.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 11:37 am

There is nothing else to do in those communities,

A few hills, red dirt and vegetation generally not above 50cm. Red hot middle of nowhere. Patronized by virtue signalling FIFO selfie seekers from the big smoke.

It’s called a community, but it’s more an existence that breeds pointless lives. One wonders how “progress” is measured there.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 11:38 am

Clover is 77 years old so hardly a good candidate for anything at the UN.

It amuses me that the generation that shrieked for the elderly to get out of the way for the young back in the day seem incapable of retiring.

That’s the corrosive effect of power.

Chris
Chris
September 27, 2023 11:39 am

Chris, you’re adorable,

Thank you!

but while individuals in the mass media might through ignorance or laziness, ‘misinform’, if you have a pattern of misinformation that tendentiously covers only one side, its usually because they are being feed that misinformation by the operatives in the academic-intelligence-think tank complex and they are sympathetic to it themselves anyway.

I suggest its more attributable to ‘rational ignorance’ – popular care factor is zero, for all but the national security grown-ups.
If your

operatives in the academic-intelligence-think tank complex

are working their chosen ‘side’, then I confess you are likely better informed in the matter than me.

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 11:42 am

However, Clover is quite likeable, she’s just been in that position for too long. To be fair, when she first ran as Lord Mayor back in 2005 she initially did some good things. The CBD was shabby, and the Council had been used as a political stepping stone by the likes of amphibian scum like Kathryn Greiner and the vile Lucy Turnbull. Neither of these women lived in the inner-city, whereas Clover had lived in Redfern since the early 1980s. People like Clover because she did understand some of their problems, she knew the area.

Cassie, I also “go back” quite some time in my acquaintance (I wouldn’t call it “friendship”) with Clover. Clover was a P/T teacher when I was involved in adult adulation. Yes, she has always been nominally personable and vivacious. But I found her dismissive and cold when you were in disagreement with her. I was also involved in Sydney city politics in those days and Clover “cut me dead” when she discovered that I was backing a “conservative” candidate in local elections.

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 11:42 am

However, Clover is quite likeable, she’s just been in that position for too long. To be fair, when she first ran as Lord Mayor back in 2005 she initially did some good things. The CBD was shabby, and the Council had been used as a political stepping stone by the likes of amphibian scum like Kathryn Greiner and the vile Lucy Turnbull. Neither of these women lived in the inner-city, whereas Clover had lived in Redfern since the early 1980s. People like Clover because she did understand some of their problems, she knew the area.

Cassie, I also “go back” quite some time in my acquaintance (I wouldn’t call it “friendship”) with Clover. Clover was a P/T teacher when I was involved in adult education. Yes, she has always been nominally personable and vivacious. But I found her dismissive and cold when you were in disagreement with her. I was also involved in Sydney city politics in those days and Clover “cut me dead” when she discovered that I was backing a “conservative” candidate in local elections.

Lysander
Lysander
September 27, 2023 11:43 am
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