Open Thread – Wed 27 Sept 2023


The Old Burgtheater, Gustav Klimt, 1889

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Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 11:45 am

Forgive the double post – but I found that I had written that I was involved in “adult adulation” , instead of “adult education”! Good grief!

Alamak!
September 27, 2023 11:54 am

Precisely, this has nothing to do with the individual claims of any of the claimants or keeping trade open in the South China Sea but has everything to do with appearing to constrain China in their own legal territory.

FTFY.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 11:57 am

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/09/that-i-want-to-see.html

That’s how Aboriginal men settle their issues!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 12:02 pm

This is going to win absolutely no Liberal voters, nor any Labor voters:

I’ve always thought of Malcolm Fraser as the arch typical small “l” liberal.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 12:02 pm

Shy Ted
Sep 27, 2023 10:27 AM
I am Tom. Knight
Wikipaedoa updated quickly?

Where else would Dan Andrews end up but with all the other dictators and fascists at WEF.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2023 12:04 pm

There’s been a lot of talk about the Spratleys and Paracels this morning.

What many people commenting fail to realise is this.

The Spratleys and Paracels are Tartarian.

Always were, always will be.

Never ceded.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 12:07 pm

Seymour Hersh’s latest article (h/t ZH) on NS2 pipeline sabotage;

“The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine. It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas—and that Germany and then NATO, for economic reasons, would fall under the sway of Russia and its extensive and inexpensive natural resources. And thus followed the ultimate fear: that America would lose its long-standing primacy in Western Europe.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hersh-reveals-motive-covert-nord-stream-sabotage-attack-one-year

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2023 12:08 pm

According to SkyNews the Hunchback is on his way to Spring street in his 4WD.

Get off your bikes kiddies!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2023 12:13 pm

This blog is off the pace with regard to Tartarians.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 12:15 pm

Robber baron.

JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon suggests government seize private property in a desperate bid to fast track climate initiatives (Sky News, 27 Sep)

In his annual letter to shareholders, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon suggested that the U.S. government and climate conscious corporations may have to seize citizen’s private property to enact climate initiatives while there still time to stave off climate disasters.

Dimon declared Tuesday that “governments, businesses and non-governmental organizations” may need to invoke “eminent domain” in order to get the “adequate investments fast enough for grid, solar, wind and pipeline initiatives.”

You’d think a CEO of one of the most notorious corporations of the American railway age might be a little bit more sensitive than this. But no, not only does he believe the lie but he also wants to steal the assets of ordinary people on the basis of it

Up yours and the iron horse you rode in on son.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 12:18 pm

Interesting Vicki.

My mother and stepfather bought a large and very beautiful terrace in Surry Hills back in the mid 1980s, and so they knew (and know) Clover, Frank Sartor and others. Surry Hills wasn’t very fashionable then, however it was much more interesting. There were still a lot of Chinese still living there, many whose grandparents had also lived in the suburb. A lot of Chinese families in Surry Hills had forebears who had arrived in this country in the 1880s and 1890s, and some even earlier. There were also still a of Jewish shmatta shops and factories. It was grungy. Oxford Street was also interesting. Now, the soul has gone, and Surry Hills and Darlinghurst are uber gay, uber trendy and uber shallow. I think you still get some of the very elderly Chinese living in the old terraces, their children and grandchildren living in areas like Eastwood and Baulkham Hills. And all of these older Chinese, whilst they speak Cantonese, are also “Aussie, with broad accents”.

As Mum has always said, the best time was when the state government sacked the council and just stuck to its knitting, doing what the council should have done, attending to roads, rates and rubbish. My mother, never a shrinking violet, has scared the likes of Clover and Frank over the years with her opinions. Mum always called Frank Sartor “Cranky Franky”….though Frank liked and still likes Mum.

A few years ago I ran into Frank on the street and he remembered my mother. Back in the early 1990s, when he was campaigning for Lord Mayor, he opened the gate of my mother’s terrace, knocked on the door, stuffed a pamphlet through the front door, then scuttled off, forgetting to close the gate. I was at home with Mum, and I watched my mother open the door and roar out to Frank “you rude man, get back back here and close the gate, weren’t you ever taught any matters?”, to which Frank dutifully scuttled back, closed the gate, and then apologised profusely to my mother!

Never mess with my mother.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 12:20 pm

Ruthless cynic was one of our worst premiers

By GREG SHERIDAN

Daniel Andrews was one of the most ruthlessly effective political leaders Australian politics has produced, and also by a considerable distance one of the worst state premiers we’ve ever seen in substance.

Very unusually for a state leader, he made significant international waves. He did this by defying both the federal government – then a Coalition government – and the policy of the federal Labor Party, to sign up Victoria to China’s Belt and Road Initiative.

The federal government, fully supported by federal Labor, assessed the BRI as a dangerous concerted effort by the Chinese Communist Party to increase Beijing’s geo-strategic power. Andrews undermined the national position by signing up anyway, thus giving Beijing a great propaganda coup. It could argue that Victoria’s decision demonstrated Canberra’s unreasonableness.

This was characteristic Andrews. The text of the agreement was secret and nothing ever eventuated from it to Victoria’s economic benefit.

As always, cynical politics was key, to convince ethnic-Chinese Australian voters the Coalition was anti-Chinese.

Andrews displayed deeply authoritarian instincts. He refused to appear for normal interviews on the top-rating ABC Melbourne radio station or its commercial rival, 3AW. Once it would have been unthinkable for a premier to avoid talking directly to such large numbers of voters.

Victoria under Andrews developed a disturbingly dysfunctional democratic culture.

First, there was the gleeful excess of the petty bossiness of Victoria’s absurdly elongated Covid lockdowns.

Second was the way Andrews sidelined mainstream media. Using the powers of incumbency to know just what voters were thinking, Andrews’ team crafted its messages for the simplistic sloganeering of social media.

Third, where possible he sidelined parliament, describing it as irrelevant during the pandemic lockdown and all but ignoring the many charges of impropriety against his government.

Fourth, he used a report that found, shock horror, there was branch-stacking in the Victorian ALP to suspend the operations even of the Labor Party itself in his state.

Andrews did not manage the budget. Hundreds of millions of dollars were wasted on cancelled infrastructure and events, and the state debt ballooned wildly, far worse than any other state.

Andrews has always been of Labor’s Socialist Left and has pursued identity politics, radical education policies and legislative practices to restrict the freedoms of Christian schools and institutions. This had political as well as ideological motives, trying to fend off the Green challenge to Labor’s inner-city seats.

And, contemptibly, Andrews refused to say he respected the High Court’s acquittal of Cardinal George Pell.

Andrews leaves behind a nearly bankrupt state with compromised institutions and a toxic political culture. Hopefully, we won’t see his like again.

GREG SHERIDAN
FOREIGN EDITOR

Oz

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 12:28 pm

A Yes campaign advertisement that claims that Indigenous Australians have not been listened to for the ‘last 250 years’ has been slammed as ‘false and insulting’ by critics. …

2GB radio host Ben Fordham ridiculed the ad as ‘false, insulting and stupid’.

Daily Mail

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 12:33 pm

This blog is off the pace with regard to Tartarians.

And the Mud Flood.
Don’t play into the hands of Big Coverup and forget the mud.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 12:38 pm

Papers please.

A national digital ID scheme is being proposed in Australia—an expert weighs the pros and (many more) cons (via Phys.org, 26 Sep)

…the federal government is proposing a national digital identity scheme that will let people prove their identity without having to share documents such as their passport, drivers license or Medicare card.

Finance Minister Katy Gallagher opened consultations for the draft bill last week, with plans to introduce the legislation to parliament by the end of the year.

Take your fascist number of the beast, Katy, and stick it up your fundamental orifice.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2023 12:38 pm

NPC on Sky.

What is it with these part darkies wearing whitey hats?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 12:40 pm

Andrews leaves behind a nearly bankrupt state with compromised institutions and a toxic political culture. Hopefully, we won’t see his like again.

A faint hope.

Unfortunately he also leaves behind a game plan of how to stay in power for 10 years without achieving anything.

A sex drug for political ambitionists.

Spinning Mouse
Spinning Mouse
September 27, 2023 12:47 pm

Won’t Dan Andrews have to move to a different part of the country? Or to a different country?

He couldn’t walk down the street or go the shops or play a round of golf in Victoria without every fifth person thinking “wanker”, or even better saying it, when they saw him.

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 1:02 pm

Spinning Mouse
Sep 27, 2023 12:47 PM
Won’t Dan Andrews have to move to a different part of the country? Or to a different country?

He couldn’t walk down the street or go the shops or play a round of golf in Victoria without every fifth person thinking “wanker”, or even better saying it, when they saw him.

There’s no likelihood of that happening, former premiers don’t do their own shopping or mix with ordinary people. If he played golf it will be on an empty course.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 1:06 pm

How the hell is Gallagher still a Minister let alone a Senator?

Morsie
Morsie
September 27, 2023 1:07 pm

Massive own goal by Trump in NY fraud trial. Seeking summary judgement to get it tossed instead judgement for the otherside ,findings of fraud et Al against Trump and others and loss of licence to trade.
Might be beginning of the end as the ultimate trial will be a massacre.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 1:07 pm

He couldn’t walk down the street or go the shops or play a round of golf in Victoria without every fifth person thinking “wanker”, or even better saying it, when they saw him.

He may have a fear of stairs.
His anxiety may be soothed moving to another state, where he may feel he’s better able to negotiate staircases without risk of slipping.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 1:11 pm

Massive own goal by Trump in NY fraud trial. Seeking summary judgement to get it tossed instead judgement for the otherside ,findings of fraud et Al against Trump and others and loss of licence to trade.

It’s not an own goal when the ref kicks your head in.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 1:14 pm
Morsie
Morsie
September 27, 2023 1:16 pm

Agreed Dot that NY is biased against him but these proceedings are all his own work.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 1:17 pm

Look at this BS

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/concerns-over-new-virus-projected-to-outpace-covid-in-new-south-wales/ar-AA1hjlCH?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=ecdc01f355764df0a7e53982b421f2d7&ei=10

A potentially fatal respiratory virus called hMPV is spreading in New South Wales and is likely to outpace influenza and COVID-19 this spring.

Human metapneumovirus (hMPV) can cause upper and lower respiratory disease in people of all ages and can become particularly fatal in children under the age of five and people with weakened immune systems.

We MUST get the Public Health Acts repealed. COVID as a tool for social control and tyranny will never go away otherwise.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 1:18 pm

A Yes campaign advertisement that claims that Indigenous Australians have not been listened to for the ‘last 250 years’ has been slammed as ‘false and insulting’ by critics. …

For shame, don’t they know Aboriginal Australians were not citizens, couldn’t vote, and were considered “Flora and Fauna” until 1967?

Robert Sewell
September 27, 2023 1:19 pm

I have to admit I’m over these automated systems that just run in businesses without any oversight until a customer who has become infuriated with the “Computer says No” catch 22, finally gets on to the customer complaint line after waiting half an hour in a queue.
“Oh yes. It was an automated reply system.” doesn’t cut it when a threat of legal action is thrown around as well as punitive ‘administrative charges’ .

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 27, 2023 1:22 pm

Salvatore speculated:

His anxiety may be soothed moving to another state, where he may feel he’s better able to negotiate staircases without risk of slipping.

The other States are still not safe enough.
Tuvalu.
One of the flattest countries in the world, no need for stairs at all.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 1:24 pm

The AFR View

Daniel Andrews’ populist legacy of division, debt and darkness

The secret to the polarising success of the Victorian premier was a canny populism, despite his constant mantra about doing the right thing, not what was popular.

Daniel Andrews’ shock resignation brings to an end a near decade of divisive dominance as Victorian premier. That divisiveness was underscored when the mostly business crowd attending The Carbine Club AFL grand final lunch at Crown Casino roared its approval when host Eddie McGuire announced that Dan was departing.

Since his election in 2014, Mr Andrews has led Australia’s most left-wing state or federal government, which has combined social progressivism with a big-spending, big-building infrastructure program that put a Labor government in virtual partnership with the law-breaking Victorian construction division of the CFMEU and its thuggish secretary John Setka.

Like his counterpart and colleague in Western Australia, Mark McGowan, Mr Andrews says burnout from the all-consuming political grind is behind his decision to resign.

The legacy Mr Andrews leaves behind includes his signature but far-from-finished and far-from-funded $130 billion, 90-kilometre Suburban Rail Loop. It has never had a proper cost-benefit analysis or been vetted by the Infrastructure Australia body that Anthony Albanese established to assess if major projects stacked up.

Also left behind is the most indebted state in the nation – a gross debt pile that is forecast to blow out to $239 billion by 2026-27.

The cost and legacy of the prolonged and harsh lockdowns that Mr Andrews imposed during the pandemic years of 2020 and 2021 continue to play out amid the empty shopfronts and office floors of the Melbourne CBD, and in the $8.6 billion worth of “temporary” COVID-19 debt levy imposed on business payrolls and property investors in the May state budget.

Last week, Mr Albanese – whom Mr Andrews acknowledged yesterday as a friend of 30 years – excluded “actions taken unilaterally by state and territory governments” from the COVID-19 inquiry.

Victorians had already passed their democratic verdict on Mr Andrews’ pandemic overreach by re-electing him for a third time at last November’s state election. It was an achievement that dodged the fate of another divisive premier, Jeff Kennett, who lost the “unlosable” 1999 election after two terms.

Adored by the “#IstandwithDan” crowd and loathed with equal passion by others, the fact is that Mr Andrews’ strong man leadership has reduced the Liberal Party – torn apart by its own internal culture war – to disarray and seeming terminal decline in the state that was once its “jewel in the crown”.

Backed by the pioneering use of social media to connect with voters and bypass traditional media, the secret to the combative and polarising Mr Andrews’ success was a canny populism, despite his constant mantra about doing the right thing, not what was popular.

Multiple adverse findings by Victoria’s anti-corruption integrity body were brushed aside as part of Mr Andrews’ no apologies governing style that earned a reputation for getting things done.

That includes the 2014 election promise to remove 110 level crossings and rebuild 51 railway stations in Melbourne. Done – and then undone – was Mr Andrews’ plan to host the 2026 Commonwealth Games in regional Victoria, which helped win Labor votes in the bush in the 2019 election, before being abruptly and embarrassingly cancelled in July due to a supposed blowout in the cost.

Rejecting the relatively bland managerial style of Victoria’s previous two Labor premiers, Steve Bracks and John Brumby, there was also an ideological bent to the populism of a premier from Victoria’s Socialist Left faction – especially the move to reverse the Kennett government’s electricity system privatisation and reestablish some version of the nationalised State Electricity Commission.

The Andrews government also spearheaded the push by the Labor states to exclude gas-fired firmed, or reliable, power from the National Electricity Market’s back-up mechanism.

Mr Andrews committed Victoria to ambitious emissions reduction and renewable energy targets.

But both his anti-business and anti-fossil fuel stances were pragmatically undercut by paying two privatised electricity companies to keep their coal-fired plants open and stoked by dirty brown coal.

Yet with Victoria singled out by the Energy Security Board as the state whose energy transition is most vulnerable to wind and solar droughts, it’s possible that if the lights go out, darkness, along with division and debt, could be the three Ds that form Dan’s legacy in the years to come.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 1:33 pm

A YEAR OF LYING ABOUT NORD STREAM

The Biden administration has acknowledged neither its responsibility for the pipeline bombing nor the purpose of the sabotage

SEYMOUR HERSH
26 SEPT 2023

Mentioned above in Zerohedge link & The Wicked Witch of the West Victoris Nuland gets her usual mention – a good read

It was no surprise to the agency’s secret planning group when on January 27, 2022, the assured and confident Nuland, then undersecretary of state for political affairs, stridently warned Putin that if he invaded Ukraine, as he clearly was planning to, that “one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.”

The line attracted enormous attention, but the words preceding the threat did not.

The official State Department transcript shows that she preceded her threat by saying that with regard to the pipeline: “We continue to have very strong and clear conversations with our German allies.”

Asked by a reporter how she could say with certainty that the Germans would go along “because what the Germans have said publicly doesn’t match what you’re saying,” Nuland responded with an astonishing bit of doubletalk: “I would say go back and read the document that we signed in July [of 2021] that made very clear about the consequences for the pipeline if there is further aggression on Ukraine by Russia.”

But that agreement, which was briefed to journalists, did not specify threats or consequences, according to reports in the Times, the Washington Post, and Reuters.

At the time of the agreement, on July 21, 2021, Biden told the press corps that since the pipeline was 99 percent finished, “the idea that anything was going to be said or done was going to stop it was not possible.” At the time, Republicans, led by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, depicted Biden’s decision to permit the Russian gas to flow as a “generational geopolitical win” for Putin and “a catastrophe” for the United States and its allies.

But two weeks after Nuland’s statement, on February 7, 2022, at a joint White House press conference with the visiting Scholz, Biden signaled that he had changed his mind and was joining Nuland and other equally hawkish foreign policy aides in talking about stopping the pipeline.

“If Russia invades—that means tanks and troops crossing . . . the border of Ukraine again,” he said, “there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.” Asked how he could do so since the pipeline was under Germany’s control, he said: “We will, I promise you, we’ll be able to do it.”

The Biden administration blew up the pipelines but the action had little to do with winning or stopping the war in Ukraine.

It resulted from fears in the White House that Germany would waver and turn on the flow of Russia gas—and that Germany and then NATO, for economic reasons, would fall under the sway of Russia and its extensive and inexpensive natural resources.

And thus followed the ultimate fear: that America would lose its long-standing primacy in Western Europe.

shatterzzz
September 27, 2023 1:34 pm

Gotta luv the gummint and their Peter robs Paul luv of other folks money! ..
20 September OAP rise of $32 a fortnight to cover “inflation” .. Today, NSW gummint raises my “houso” rent $8 a fortnight, I’m guessin’ to cover their “inflation” and, no doubt ColesWorths will have slugged another 300 or so items by week’s end to cover their “inflation” ……… yet the media still perplexed by the cost of lving going up & not down even tho the Reserve hasn’t raised interest rates for 2 months …!

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 1:35 pm

Well, have been watching Noel Pearson deliver at Press Club speech. My question to him would be :

“Is that all you’ve got?”

Pearson is a pretty smart bloke, but his speech was laboured, “flowery”, and smacking of desperation. He could not nail any effective argument that countered the belief that the Voice could guarantee a solution to Aboriginal disadvantage. Indeed, he did not concur that disadvantage is limited to particular enclaves.

Further, he was contradictory in his assessment of Australians in respect to their relationship with the Aboriginal community. At one moment he was his censorious self, admonishing them for “looking down” upon Aborigines, the next moment praising them for their generosity.

In total, he seemed to me despondent, although he blustered along in his usual bullying way.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 1:40 pm

Voice return unlikely to return if poll fails: Pearson
Tricia Rivera
Tricia Rivera

Prominent Yes campaigner Noel Pearson says he cannot see a scenario where the voice question would arise again if the referendum fails.

“I’m not speculating about October 15th. My ability to talk ends on the night of October 14,” he answered when asked at the National Press Club address if he would push the government to legislate the voice.

“Peter Dutton proposed [another referendum] one Sunday two weeks ago. It was dead on the Thursday, because his spokesman said no.”

The Indigenous lawyer said the voice would allow Indigenous Australians, British descendants and the multicultural community to “become one”.

“I say to multicultural communities in the campaign that I’m involved in around the country – I say to them – where do you fit into Australia? It’s a bit unclear,” Mr Pearson said.

“Are you with the mob from the UK? Are you kind of honorary settlers? Because some of you are the wrong colour, or you don’t come from northern Europe.

“Because we can move to an Australia where the Indigenous, the British descendants, and the multicultural mob become one. And we all know we’re all Australians. There’s no priority among us.”

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 1:42 pm

Oh, by the way, he claimed “it is not about race”…it is about being “indigenous”. And then … amazingly…..”They are not a separate race……”

Mmmm. Have to go to Anthropology textbook.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2023 1:42 pm

Press Club with Pearson

Love it how woke sheilas get up to ask a question but make a speech. They all have reading notes on their screens or notebooks.

Then Pearson makes another speech in reply. Pathetic.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 1:43 pm

Analysis of Ukraine’s Escalating Crimean Strike Campaign

SIMPLICIUS THE THINKER
26 SEPT 2023

It’s a game of cat and mouse. Ukraine can only conduct a successful strike once in a while when all the appropriate surveillance measures are taken by 5-Eyes partners and everything is pre-planned out with an accommodating coverage ‘gap’ available somewhere.

As to the Black Sea Fleet HQ, Russia says the building was empty while Ukraine claims the usual: hundreds were killed including major generals.

There is no evidence of this. In fact Russia appeared to have some direct warning of the strike, so an evacuation—if the building was even used at all—would have made sense.

The reason we know this is because prior to the strike, odd smoke screens were detected in the area, whose purpose I’m still not 100% aware of myself:

This startling fact represents perhaps the first time ever in history that a conflict is witnessed to include two opposing sides capable of striking each other with advanced cruise missiles.

What other conflict have you ever seen where both sides actively and successfully launch long-ranged stand off cruise missiles at each other?

Certainly nothing NATO has ever seen.

This encapsulates the fact that this war is the most high-tech peer-level conflict in history.

On top of that, Ukraine has complained that Russia’s recent strikes are becoming increasingly complex (well, so are the Ukrainian ones for that matter).

Here are two maps from Ukrainian sources showing the bizarre, circuitous routes Russian missiles are being programmed to take:

The first is from the mass strikes on September 21:

The second from last night.

They claim the Kalibr and Onyx missiles fired from Crimea region did a full circle around Nikolayev oblast and then came to hit Odessa from the rear where AD wouldn’t expect to be pointed:

Meanwhile – ‘Dead’ Russian commander appears at live meeting

Admiral Viktor Sokolov was shown during a virtual gathering of senior military officials after Kiev claimed he had been killed

Someone is telling Porkies!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2023 1:45 pm

Pearson – at least he had Collingwood colours on.

Black hat, black shirt – white strides.

Carna Pies!

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
September 27, 2023 1:51 pm

He couldn’t walk down the street or go the shops or play a round of golf in Victoria without every fifth person thinking “wanker”

Absolutely wrong.

No-one other than the completely besotted now uses such polite terms as “wanker” for this descendant of King Canute, and has not done so for some time.

The “applause” at the Carbine Club luncheon when Eddy Everywhere announced his resignation as reported was not applause. It was a lengthy standing ovation. And a very shocked Eddy.

It should be his head on a pike in Spring Street, but I guess I’ll take the resignation with, errm, resignation.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 27, 2023 1:55 pm

While job advertisements still have the little proviso at the end of them that encourage the special groups of “First Nations” “LGBTQRXYZ” and ” culturally diverse” peoples to apply, then there are (unspoken) priorities.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 1:56 pm

WSJ – The War in Ukraine Is Also a Giant Arms Fair – No Shite Sherlock

Arms makers are getting orders for weapons being put to the test on the battlefield

MINKIVKA, Ukraine—The Ukrainian crew of a high-tech German artillery system can shoot three shells within seconds that will simultaneously hit the exact same spot more than 25 miles away.

That is, when the big gun hasn’t broken down.

The Panzerhaubitze howitzer is part of an arsenal of weapons being put to the test in Ukraine in what has become the world’s largest arms fair.

Companies that make the weapons being used in Ukraine have won orders and resurrected production lines. The deployment of billions of dollars worth of equipment in a major land war has also given manufacturers and militaries a unique opportunity to analyze the battlefield performance of weapons, and learn how best to use them.

For all the Panzerhaubitze’s technical prowess, the war has shown the importance of being able to fix weapons on the battlefield. A simpler howitzer, the M777, has proven more reliable, but also more vulnerable to attack.

Debate around the performance of the two howitzers, and many other weapons, could help shape military procurement for years to come. At a major arms fair in London this month, exhibitors said they were frequently asked about the performance of their weapons in Ukraine.

The U.S. and European nations have sent billions of dollars worth of equipment to Ukraine from existing military stockpiles, and countries are now starting to replace some of that inventory amid a broader rise in military spending.

Global military spending rose for the eighth consecutive year in 2022 to a record high of $2.24 trillion, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, a think tank.

Artillery guns and the shells they fire, drones, missile-defense systems and multiple-rocket launchers are all heavily used in Ukraine.

Some of this equipment—made by the likes of BAE Systems, Rheinmetall, Lockheed Martin and RTX, formerly known as Raytheon Technologies—is now receiving orders or interest from potential buyers, arms makers say.

“People are looking at Ukraine and seeing what’s working,” said Tom Arseneault, the chief executive of the U.S. operations of BAE Systems.

The British defense giant says it is in talks with Kyiv about making its L199 artillery gun in Ukraine after it has proved useful and that orders for the shells used in the country have ramped up. The company also says it has received increased inquiries for its CV90 combat vehicle and the M777 based on their performance in the war.

While some countries are beginning to replace equipment sent to Ukraine, companies say that military procurement is typically slow, meaning many orders won’t materialize immediately.

The war is already affecting procurement decisions for the U.K., according to Gen. Patrick Sanders, the head of the British army. Other recent conflicts, including Syria, also influence procurement orders by the U.K., which has Europe’s largest military budget.

“You look for repeat patterns,” he said.

One lesson from Ukraine has been the importance of being able to do battlefield repairs, Sanders said.

That has proved particularly pertinent for howitzers, a class of mobile, long-barreled battlefield guns that fire shells and are the most widely used Western weapons in Ukraine.

A crew of Ukrainian artillerymen operating outside Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine praised the accuracy and rate of fire of the Panzerhaubitze. The weapon’s thick, high-grade steel offers protection in a way that other howitzers don’t, they said, citing how the weapon recently escaped a one-hour bombardment with just shrapnel marks.

The Panzerhaubitze, made by Rheinmetall and the German arm of KNDS, has secured orders from Berlin to replace units sent to Ukraine, while Kyiv has also signaled interest in buying the big gun.

The constant use of the Panzerhaubitze, though, has led to breakdowns, according to Ukrainian artillerymen. One of the machines operated by the Bakhmut crew caught fire and had to be taken back to Germany, and the electronics in the automatic loading process malfunctioned in another. It is now loaded manually.

The weapon’s makers attribute problems to a combination of being fired too much and a lack of servicing. “If they take care of the electronics, it works,” said Armin Papperger, Rheinmetall’s CEO.

Papperger said the war is showing how fast barrels wear out. Rheinmetall has now tripled its production of gun barrels for armored fighting vehicles.

On average, less than 70% of Ukraine’s foreign howitzers are operating at any one time, according to Col. Serhiy Baranov, chief of the main directorate of missile troops and artillery and unmanned systems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The mainly British-made M777 is in action more than other foreign howitzers, Baranov said, at about 85% of the time, because it is easier to fix and there are more spare parts.

The U.S. recently finished training Ukrainians on “truck-size” 3-D printers that can make spare parts for equipment including troop carriers and artillery, Pentagon acquisition chief Bill LaPlante told journalists earlier this month.

Artillerymen also say they find the M777 easier to learn to operate and very accurate, and that its lightweight titanium parts make it easier to move across muddy fields.

Still, the need to be towed means the M777 is slower to move and more vulnerable to counterfire. The big gun’s lightweight parts also make it more susceptible to damage from shrapnel, operators say.

BAE Systems, the company that makes the M777, said that after increased inquiries the company has a plan to restart production, though only if interest turns into orders.

Ukraine has put some Western equipment to the test in a more intense environment than it has previously been deployed.

The CV90, for example, saw combat in Afghanistan and Liberia, but “it’s totally different to what we are seeing in Ukraine,” said Dan Lindell, director of combat vehicles at the Swedish unit of BAE Systems that makes the armored carrier.

Lindell said BAE has had more inquiries about the vehicle based on its performance in Ukraine. The Swedish and Ukrainian governments have also signed an agreement that could lead to production of CV90s in Ukraine.

Other weapons that have received praise in Ukraine, including the high-profile endorsement of President Volodymyr Zelensky, are the Himars mobile rocket launcher and Britain’s long-range Storm Shadow missiles.

Rocket launchers, including the U.S.’s Himars and M270S, have impressed the British army’s Sanders most in Ukraine, he said, citing their precision, concentration of firepower and range.

Companies that make some of those weapons have won fresh orders and boosted production. Since the war began, the U.S. Army has awarded Lockheed Martin $630 million in contracts to manufacture Himars for itself and allies.

Meanwhile, RTX is increasing production of its Patriot missile defense system to 12 a year, and plans to deliver five more to Ukraine by the end of next year. Its software has been tweaked to enable it to destroy hypersonic missiles.

“Successful operation allows manufacturers to write ‘proven in combat,’ which helps sales,” said Nicholas Drummond, a former British army officer who runs defense-industry consulting firm AURA Consulting Ltd.

Some military analysts say another lesson is that not enough time was spent training Ukrainian operators in the haste to get them back onto the battlefield. The Ukrainian artillerymen received five weeks of training on the Panzerhaubitze. German operators typically train for four months.

Other Western howitzers have also had problems amid constant use. An operator of the Polish howitzer, the AHS Krab, said one machine was being used so intensively that its barrel tore off.

A spokesman for its manufacturer, Huta Stalowa Wola, didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 1:58 pm

Mum always called Frank Sartor “Cranky Franky”….though Frank liked and still likes Mum.

Loved your recollection of those days & your mum’s encounters with Frank. We,too, knew Frank well. We owned bit of property in Pyrmont in the days when it was being redeveloped by City West Corporation – a corporation working for the NSW government. Sydney City Council was very involved in opposing many of the proposals for ideological reasons – so I formed an association of property and business owners to have input into the disputes.

Frank and I had similar disputes as your mother did with him. He used to implore my husband to restrain me in meetings because, he said, “she turns them all against me!” Fat chance. At one of the last public meetings where we clashed, he sneered, “You don’t live here”. To which I replied, “Neither do you!”

But Frank was a very good operator and with allies like Elizabeth Farrell, was hard to counter in respect to Council decision making. It did not surprise me when he entered state politics & ended up as a Minister. There were many things I didn’t like about him and I found him a bit coarse. But I never doubted his integrity.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 2:00 pm

How Many People Coming Into This Country Illegally Is Enough For President Biden?’

I & I Editorial Board

Questions like that are almost enough to make you feel sorry for White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. Even someone qualified for that job – which she clearly is not – would have trouble coming up with new ways to tell bald-faced lies about the border crisis and what President Joe Biden is doing to stop it.

Her job got more difficult after U.S. Customs and Border Protection released data Friday showing that 304,162 people entered the country illegally in August – a new record.

For perspective, it’s as many as crossed illegally in all of 2017, and more than the entire population of Pittsburgh.

Robert Sewell
September 27, 2023 2:03 pm

I have to admit I’m over these automated systems that just run in businesses without any oversight until a customer who has become infuriated with the “Computer says No” catch 22, finally gets on to the customer complaint line after waiting half an hour in a queue.
“Oh yes. It was an automated reply system.” doesn’t cut it when a threat of legal action is thrown around as well as punitive ‘administrative charges’ .

Finally. Got onto a human and the problem was sorted in about 3 minutes.
But what kind of business puts in a system that infuriates the customer, who is then ultimately put onto a human who has to sort out the mess that the computer was not programmed to do?
…and the Health monster is even worse.

Lysander
Lysander
September 27, 2023 2:25 pm

Anyone else keep getting Cat error messages when trying to post?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 2:31 pm

Kamahl again:

Kamahl AM @OfficialKamahl 22m
Why’s the media silent on the fact that the Communist flag is being flown at the Yes protests ? Communism has been responsible for some of the largest mass murders in history. 100million and more. The true death toll will never be known. Unbelievable TRAGEDY !

This is first class work.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 2:43 pm

Anyone else keep getting Cat error messages when trying to post?

Server unavailable – several times.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
September 27, 2023 2:46 pm

Regarding Dan, spit, Andrews moving interstate. I have it on good authority that he is moving to Darwin. Pretty sure I heard some bloke say, Dan Andrews C U in the NT.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 27, 2023 2:46 pm

While job advertisements still have the little proviso at the end of them that encourage the special groups of “First Nations” “LGBTQRXYZ” and ” culturally diverse” peoples to apply, then there are (unspoken) priorities.

One of the priorities would be ‘look elsewhere’; if they are hiring to fill categories, these people likely don’t have their eyes on the ball.

Lee
Lee
September 27, 2023 2:52 pm

UK police harangued and warned a woman after she refused to accept a “Pride” bag when making a purchase.

She has also been banned from the shop:

https://summit.news/2023/09/26/beyond-the-realms-of-absurdity/

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 2:52 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 27, 2023 2:31 PM
Kamahl again:

Kamahl AM @OfficialKamahl 22m
Why’s the media silent on the fact that the Communist flag is being flown at the Yes protests ? Communism has been responsible for some of the largest mass murders in history. 100million and more. The true death toll will never be known. Unbelievable TRAGEDY !

This is first class work.

This and the comment posted earlier today suggest that there is, indeed, a bit of Kamhal-mentum developing.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2023 2:55 pm

Communism has been responsible for some of the largest mass murders in history. 100million and more. The true death toll will never be known. Unbelievable TRAGEDY !

Where on Earth is all this coming from? For years he was just the nice, agreeable, music singing chap that your parent used to listen to.

Now he is just walking around swinging a cluebat and no focks given.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 2:56 pm

This is first class work.

That will never be undertaken by the LNP.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 2:58 pm

Jacinta Allan elected as next Victorian premier

Gus McCubbing

Jacinta Allan has reportedly been anointed the next premier of Victoria after Ben Carroll withdrew his nomination.

Carroll has been handed the deputy premier role in a circuit breaker.

Labor MPs remain inside the caucus room as a loud applause is heard.

Sicktoria continues down the Drain

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2023 2:58 pm

Mum always called Frank Sartor “Cranky Franky”….though Frank liked and still likes Mum.

Sometimes you have to be a little imprecise with a name to get the rhyme to work.

So how is Fockhead.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 2:59 pm

Test

Red pilling

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 3:01 pm
Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 3:01 pm

Kamahl is red pilling possibly millions of Aussies.

I take it all back.

His self deprecation and mockery of – j e r k y – behaviour is world class.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 27, 2023 3:02 pm

Could Alan Jones be writing Kamahl’s Tweets?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 3:09 pm

Could Alan Jones be writing Kamahl’s Tweets?

Of the Seven tweets Kamahl has made today, Six are virulently anti-Trump.

He has to be this week’s Gold Medal winner & honorary life member, of the title of Master Troller of the wokerarti.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 3:10 pm

Kamahl certainly has TDS.

But then I see this;

Kamahl AM
@OfficialKamahl
·
1m
I love Melbourne. It gave me my dream start to my career in 1970, with Peace on Earth & BP !!!
I never knew till now, the Victorian Premier Dan Andrews is finally leaving a legacy of brutality, debt and corruption. How did it last so long ?
@OfficialKamahl

Have you been living under a rock Kamahl?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 3:11 pm

Can an 88 year old actor effectively play ” rope a dope” with 90% of Australia’s media/ politicians and woke companies?

Why yes, yes he can.

Mhy is he… so unkind?

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 3:16 pm

UK police harangued and warned a woman after she refused to accept a “Pride” bag when making a purchase.

She has also been banned from the shop:

In a recent Youtube chat with Meghan Murphy, Michael Malice says that Western Anglo countries such as the UK, the USA, Canada, NZ and Australia aren’t falling into “communism”. No, Malice says that countries like Australia, UK and Canada are falling into authoritarianism, and the above “pride” nonsense is a classic example of this authoritarianism. You will kowtow or else.

I would add that all of authoritarianism has happened, like a curtain slowly dropping, under the mask of liberalism and libertarianism.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 3:18 pm

Kamahl has as his Twitter background, a photo of himself with Sir Donald Bradman.
Many Cats may recall that less than a year ago, when some woke twit declared Bradman was a hard-core white supremacist, racist & exterminator of coloured folks, Kamahl declared he’d (& his family) had often been a house guest of Sir Donald, considered him a friend, & had never seen any sign of nigra-hatin’ from the star batsman.

Kamahl then copped heaps of hate from the Woke-stapo for refusing to crap all over Sir Donald.

Perhaps he got a touch red-pilled.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 3:19 pm

Saw this on Aus Tender.

Proactive wellbeing supports and services for Judges and Senior Judicial Registrars
ATM ID: RFT-2024-0035
Agency: Federal Court of Australia
Category: Health programs
Description: Proactive wellbeing supports and services for Judges and Senior Judicial Registrars

Support would be a loving backhand from a father figure for stupid judicial decisions. Call it pastoral care. I can call them your honour, they can call me Your Excellence.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2023 3:19 pm

One for naval Cats.

World War 2 aircraft carrier wreck photographed for first time (26 Sep)

The wreck of the USS Yorktown, an aircraft carrier that was sunk during the Battle of Midway in World War II, was recently photographed for the first time by the Ocean Exploration Trust.

The USS Yorktown sunk after being hit by a torpedo fired by a Japanese submarine during the Battle of Midway in June 1942. 141 officers and crewmen were killed in the sinking of the aircraft carrier.

The dives at the site were launched and closed with protocol ceremonies to honor the site and those who lost their lives on the battlefield.

Rest in peace brave sailors and airmen.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 3:19 pm

UK police harangued and warned a woman after she refused to accept a “Pride” bag when making a purchase.

She has also been banned from the shop

… and warned to not distribute “literature” in the vicinity of the shop.

Hmmmmm.

cohenite
September 27, 2023 3:20 pm

However, Clover is quite likeable

Clover is a weed which makes cows sick. Like her namesake clover is a kunt of a thing.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 27, 2023 3:21 pm

Pretty sure I heard some bloke say, Dan Andrews C U in the NT.

Now that is the best comment I have seen on this blog for at least a year!
Actually pissed myself the first time I read it. (incontinent in old age)

Just as funny is the CU in the NT mob are marketing t shirts featuring cream pies.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 3:23 pm

Bruce of Newcastle Sep 27, 2023 3:19 PM

One for naval Cats.
World War 2 aircraft carrier wreck photographed for first time (26 Sep)

Apropos of this warship, & recent mention on the cat of prolific Naval author J E MacDonnell;
In J E MacDonnell’s The Battle of Midway is an excellent description of the work & effort that went into making Yorktown (after she was put out of action) fit enough to rejoin battle, particularly the short time frame (24 hrs or so) in which it was done.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 3:25 pm

Clover is a weed which makes cows sick

Clover is a legume which makes bullocks very bluddee fat. Clover is the backbone of the south-west Qld outback. (Arguably the best natural fattening country in the world)

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2023 3:26 pm

Hahaha……I’ve got the stubbie holders and T-Shirts

Dan Andrews C U in the NT.

The filthy socialist wouldn’t dare go there. Probably slither into the ACT then go to China.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 3:28 pm

Phillip “crotch truffles” Addams doesn’t bother with gilding the Lilly.
He throws the whole plant into the molten metal terminator 2 style…

Phillip Adams
@PhillipAdams_1
·
18h
You seem ignorant of many things. Including the fact that my wife, Dr Patrice Newell AM, was a Stolen Generation baby.

….
Note the honorifics gilding the gilding…

From the ladies own words…

My mother, Mary Owens, gave birth to me in the St Joseph’s Women’s Refuge in Adelaide. From there I was adopted and lived with Thelma and Felix Newell and my brother Paul at Kurralta Park in Adelaide.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/08/i-now-farm-with-my-ancestors-watching-ags-struggle-with-reconciliation

No mention of stolen generators there.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 27, 2023 3:28 pm

However, Clover is quite likeable

When the De Santis/Newsom debate on Nov 30th (US time) I think the polling after the event will show Newsom to be a lot more likeable than De Santis.
Likability has nothing to do with competence or delivery.
But it does translate into votes.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 3:30 pm

Anyone else keep getting Cat error messages when trying to post?

Yes. It refused to load a slab of (unformatted) text from me this morning. I dumped the hyperlink and tried again – no good. Waited until the stream had gone to the top of a page and tried again – no good, so gave up.

It loaded another slab of text about the same size later though.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2023 3:30 pm

This could be a Faulty Prediction but here goes.
Hunchback will shortly “break his silence” and announce that he “is now free to speak” on da Voice.
He will unload on Grampians Nazis and racists within the dark heart of the Liberal party.
Which will push No over the line in Victoria.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 3:35 pm

China’s Massive Fleet Of Radar Planes And The Strategy Behind It

China’s path to fielding airborne early warning aircraft wasn’t straightforward, but has yielded big results that speak to a wider strategy.

BY
ANDREAS RUPPRECHT, THOMAS NEWDICK
|
PUBLISHED APR 5, 2023

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2023 3:37 pm

I remember a few years ago Kamahl made comment that he had been subject to racism when appearing on Hey Hey back in the ‘80s.

At the time I took it a face value (well it was in the MSM, so let’s call it typeface value) and thought he was ungraciously having a whinge when the show had kept his name alive.

In fact it may have been nothing more than complaining about having to put up with boorish repeated jokes involving skin colour references – such as (totally making this up) perhaps talking about some delicious chicken dish he had had at a restaurant and having some guffawing boofhead say ‘I suppose you preferred the dark meat’. That sort of thing. And it is easy to overlook how annoying that would be because it is so trite but it would be so grating and infuriating.

Or maybe they really were racist dicks at Hey Hey.

This guy has had the nads to change his mind in public – how often do you see that? If the Captain of the Titanic was of our MSM class they would be posing for selfies with the iceberg rather than change course.

Now he is calling out communism and socialism? You could put the Liberal party on the rack, break their arms and legs, stretch them to twice their height, molest their pets, and make castanets from their gonads before they would dare say Socialism and Communism were bad rather than some of their leaders had been prone to certain types of excess that did not diminish the sincerity of their intentions.

I am waiting for the Libs to officially ‘distance themselves’ from what this 80 year old entertainer has said.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 3:40 pm

One of the best ” don’t judge a book by its cover” I’ve seen in a long time

https://x.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1706190727842046001?s=20

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 3:42 pm

China is a signatory to the convention!

And?

They signed a document that said they would abide by the conditions, etc., in the treaty, and you’re asking “And?”? They may have an out, though. China could approach the Family Court and explain that they were harassed into signing the treaty.

Taiwan isn’t a member and they were still deciding matters relating to disputed Islands in its possession in that case and ignoring invitations from the Taiwanese in respect of a disputed island.

Taiwan is a special case in that recognition isn’t automatic at the risk of offending Big Brother in Beijing, so we have to really know if Taiwan is in that special category of non-member, like its non-membership membership status at the UN.

Because most commentators consider Taiwan to be a part of unitary China, Taiwan cannot be and is not considered a “state,” and thus is not eligible for membership in the United Nations (U.N.) or most other international organizations.

We really need to look at the status of Taiwan because, even though they may not be able to join the Convention, they could have adjudication rights.

Precisely, this has nothing to do with the individual claims of any of the claimants or keeping trade open in the South China Sea but has everything to do with appearing to constrain China in their own region.

China is claiming at least 80% of the China Sea. It’s an international waterway, and it doesn’t belong to them.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 27, 2023 3:44 pm

Jacinta Allan will become Victoria’s 49th Premier, and Ben Carroll her deputy, after Labor powerbrokers struck an eleventh-hour deal to head off a damaging month-long leadership contest.

Accepted the poisoned chalice to get the super benefits then will get the arse and claim sheila victim.

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 3:45 pm

You seem ignorant of many things. Including the fact that my wife, Dr Patrice Newell AM, was a Stolen Generation baby.

Huh, I thought she dumped the lardball years ago. Are they still married?

Lee
Lee
September 27, 2023 3:46 pm

Jacinta Allan will become Victoria’s 49th Premier, and Ben Carroll her deputy, after Labor powerbrokers struck an eleventh-hour deal to head off a damaging month-long leadership contest.

Ben who?

I am a Melburnian, and I have never heard of him!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 27, 2023 3:48 pm

Jacinta Allan has done nothing in her life apart from politics.
Arts degree, then worked for local pollies until elected at the age of twenty five.
The gender card will be played often and the country girl line will be trotted out to excuse her from any actual policies to help the bush.
“I’m putting power lines and wind turbines all over the state but it’s OK because I’m a country girl and understand country people.”

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2023 3:48 pm

Phillip “crotch truffles” Addams doesn’t bother with gilding the Lilly.

Geez!

Some warning beforehand so I can locate myself next to a bucket or toilet or black hole before you type stuff like that again.

Seriously?

Typing ‘Phillip Adams’?

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 3:49 pm

before they would dare say Socialism and Communism were bad

Far from it.

Thomas Mayo is considered the architect of the Voice. Albo pays heartfelt tribute to him.

Here is Mayo paying tribute to “the communist elders” who helped him get the idea up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=655mzGRmkZw&ab_channel=AdvanceAustralia

Communist Party of Australia flags at Yes shindigs;

https://twitter.com/Just_Rad/status/1706883973526536370

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 3:50 pm

Barking Toad
Sep 27, 2023 3:26 PM
Hahaha……I’ve got the stubbie holders and T-Shirts

Dan Andrews C U in the NT.

The filthy socialist wouldn’t dare go there. Probably slither into the ACT then go to China.

Has been claimed that he is off to hob nob with the fascists (business people who get into bed with governments) of the WEF. Once a fascist …

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 3:50 pm

Nationals Senator Matt Canavan lashes Energy Minister after fire at $60m Tesla power grid in Queensland continues to burn

Energy Minister Chris Bowen has fired back at Nationals Senator Matt
Canavan after he criticised a $60 million Tesla power grid that continues to burn following a blaze overnight.

Energy Minister Chris Bowen has fired back at a Nationals Senator’s criticism of a $60 million Tesla power grid after a blaze was sparked overnight.

Emergency services were called to the Bouldercombe Battery Project adjacent to the Powerlink substation near Rockhampton about 7.45pm on Tuesday after reports of a fire.

Queensland Police said the fire was causing “hazardous smoke” to seep into the area and was believed to have been started in a lithium battery storage unit.

Nationals Senator Matt Canavan was scathing of the new power grid.

Our new energy grid is worse than our old energy grid,” he posted to X, formerly known as Twitter.

The Energy Minister quickly responded to Senator Canavan, criticising him for taking the opportunity to demonise renewables.

“A gas bottle caught on fire at a service station in my electorate last week. It set off a series of explosions and a major fire,” Mr Bowen replied on X.

“I don’t remember you drawing a conclusion about energy safety from that? The LNP will find any excuse to demonise renewables.”

The battery project is one of the first standalone large-scale battery storage facilities in Queensland. It is expected to power up to 4,167 homes and generate 27,375MWh a year.

The blaze was contained to one Tesla battery unit on Wednesday morning.

Fire crews remain on standby to monitor it as Elon Musk’s company reportedly advised emergency services to allow it to burn out.

“Police will continue to monitor the situation as there are a large number of batteries on site and there is a possibility the fire may spread to other units, creating a larger hazard,” Queensland Police said in a statement.

“Work is being done to dowse the surrounding batteries and could continue for several days.”

Low-lying smoke is persisting in the area as emergency services issue an alert for those in surrounding areas.

Residents are advised to close their windows and doors and keep their medication close if they suffer from a respiratory condition.

Initial investigations indicate the fire is non-suspicious.

From the Comments

– a gas bottle fire can be extinguished, this one will have to be left to burn itself out

– Beam me up Blackout Bowen. Living in La La Land.

– Take note Simon Bowen. Gas bottles have been around in what must be many millions of locations around the country for many years and yes they cause fires sometimes most of which are quickly extinguished. Large lithium battery banks have been around for it seems like not much more than months, maybe a year, and already are causing explosive fires that are all but impossible to extinguish. Try listening to others at least occasionly Mr Bowen. You might actually learn something.

– Every home should have a power wall of Lithium ion batteries.

Blackout Bowen wouldn’t know if his backside was on fire.

I love the smell of burning lithium batteries in the morning.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 3:56 pm

The slide to authoritarianism in NSW and Australia was overt and carried on by people incredibly hostile to classical liberalism and libertarianism.

Examples of overt deprecations of freedom over the last 35 years include gun laws, changes to what self-defence legally is, making a mockery of trial by jury and civilisationally dangerous affirmative consent laws.

Bob Carr, John Howard and Mark Speakman are not liberals nor are they libertarian.

The Liberal Party has tried to litigate the LDP (now Libertarian Party) out of existence for almost two decades (most of its existence); I suspect the Australian Conservatives was an op (at least at the top) and what should have become a replacement for the LNP was killed stone dead by Turnbull, Bernardi and possibly Corman, Howard and Brandis. Inummerate buffoon Chris Bowen is one particularly nasty and unintelligent hater of the LDP (now Libertarian Party).

The US LP is kept off the ballot by Democrat and Republican collusion.

The only covertness to the trend is that so many new laws are passed that an average person cannot keep up. Berejiklian and Hazzard making so many new regulations without LC oversight and so frequently they were impossible to litigate against (as if they were Henry VIII or Charles I) is not liberal or libertarian.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2023 4:02 pm

My mother, Mary Owens, gave birth to me in the St Joseph’s Women’s Refuge in Adelaide. From there I was adopted and lived with Thelma and Felix Newell and my brother Paul at Kurralta Park in Adelaide.

Okay. I will assume the nuns at the St Joseph’s refuge did not prowl Aboriginal camps like land-fixated press gangs abducting Aboriginal women*, so her Mum went to them. So, whitey took her Mum in. She gave birth. Two (I assume) people took her in and raised her as their own, gave her a home, nurtured aspirations, and fronted up to finance opportunity.

The bastards!

I wonder if his wife must say (under her breath) “For Pete’s sake, Phil, shut up!” and then more loudly “Look,Phil! People moving house through the dunny lane behind ours. Have at them!”

* But if they did I hope they had appropriate costumes with face masks, capes, thigh lengths boots, and spectacular poses.

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 4:06 pm

Clover is a legume which makes bullocks very bluddee fat. Clover is the backbone of the south-west Qld outback. (Arguably the best natural fattening country in the world)

Absolutely. We have spring clover at the moment & it is helping keep the cattle in good condition in spite of infrequent rain.

Barry
Barry
September 27, 2023 4:12 pm

Victoria already had one chick premier, so there was no reason to push for another one so soon.

An abo premier on the other hand…..

I think the ALP missed out on a huuuuuge opportunity here.

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 4:15 pm

Beijing is such a charming friendly regime.

Beijing has warned Anthony Albanese that the “provocative behaviour” of a bipartisan delegation of Australian politicians visiting Taiwan could stall negotiations over China’s crippling tariff on wine from Australia.

Communist Party mouthpiece the Global Times said the Australian delegation – which is being jointly led by Labor MP Josh Wilson and Liberal MP Paul Fletcher – risked upsetting a “critical juncture” in Australia-China relations ahead of Prime Minister Albanese’s planned trip to Beijing.

“The provocative behaviour of [the] Australian lawmakers is a test for Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese,” the party-state masthead editorialised.

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 4:16 pm

Does anyone know what happened to a rural Cat called Helen? The last I can recall was a post she wrote towards the end of the drought of 2017/8. She described some of her old cows dying just before the drought broke. I wept when I read it. Starving cattle – especially when they are retained breeding cows – is a terrible thing to endure. When I was told by our Ag supplier that he could no longer supply us with hay I suffered a TGA (Temporary Global Amnesia) episode – a transient loss of memory (a few hours) caused by excessive stress. This was minor really – since many farmers suicided during that awful time.

BTW we didn’t lose a cow, as it turned out, we were eventually able to get enough bales & “cattle nuts” (protein hard fodder) to get them through until rain came. And we were lucky enough to have continual bore water – though not for irrigation.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 4:26 pm

“The slide to authoritarianism in NSW and Australia was overt and carried on by people incredibly hostile to classical liberalism and libertarianism”

Who used classical liberalism and libertarianism as trojan horses to push their sinister agendas, example one….

SSM

The wash up from that little “love is love” bullshit is that now LGBTQI+ is compulsory and woe betide if you dare disagree. And so now now have perverts in bathrooms, transperversion in schools, and people being silenced, cancelled and even arrested left, right and centre, for daring to speak up and question/query any of this.

Those ‘people’ might be ‘incredibly hostile’ to classical liberalism and libertarianism, but they sure knew how to climb aboard the classical liberal and libertarian trains to get their way, and it’s worked a treat, because we classical liberal and libertarian suckers let them!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 27, 2023 4:26 pm

Delta has been very quiet as well.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 4:38 pm

Saw this mentioned in the Wiki entry of new premier Jacinta Allan:

The odd case of the cousin of the new Victorian premier – a solicitor murdered in a suburban fraud gone wrong…

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 4:47 pm

This guy has had the nads to change his mind in public – how often do you see that?

My original assessment was that his tweet about all the lurve he was getting over voting “No” was sarcastic. Then he changed his mind to “Yes”. Hmmmm.

It appeared as if this was a Lefty tactic, especially when Elbow weighed in, his palate gargling wildly in his delight. He even had his ready-made “Zinger”.

And now the coup de grace – a public about face on live TV. With follow-up unwelcome factoids worthy of a troll-master. Or simply an honest, confused man working his way through the morass of political squid ink and emotionalism. Doesn’t matter either way.

We didn’t even get to October before the Surprise, and what an entertaining one it has been!

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 4:50 pm

SBS;

This delightfully irreverent comedy drama offers up a witty and queer reimagining of WWII Australia. You’ll love every vibrant 30-minute episode. Now streaming.

Can’t wait.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 4:52 pm

And The Voice will fix This?

Alice Springs retirement village turned into prison-style ‘compound’ as town braces for summer violence

Heartbreaking photos of a “prison” fence show the “sad” reality facing this Aussie town, as locals warn officials are not ready for a looming summer of chaos.

Elderly residents at an Alice Springs retirement village are now protected behind “prison” style fencing and razor wire, as locals warn the violence and chaos gripping the troubled outback town has not died down after a flurry of headlines earlier this year.

The Old Timers retirement facility — which includes Old Timers Village and Flynn Lodge as well as the resident-run Old Timers Museum, a popular tourist attraction — has been forced to erect the new fencing after a spate of incidents including break-ins, car thefts and ram-raids.

Photos of the “full compound style” security were shared by local bakery owner Darren Clark on his Action for Alice Facebook page last week.

“They’ve been broken into a few times, they get into the rooms and steal possessions from residents,” Mr Clark told news.com.au. “One guy, his mum … they were in her room. They’ve stolen staff cars. They were breaking in, getting cars and ramraiding out.”

One person replied on Facebook, “No respect for elders and so sad for the residents. They deserve to feel safe and be safe.”

Another said it “looks like a jail, so sad that our elderly need to be protected”, while a third said when she drove past it “broke my heart but what else can you do”.

A spokeswoman for Australian Regional and Remote Community Services (ARRCS), which runs Old Timers, confirmed the new “security measures” but would not comment on any specific incidents.

“ARRCS provides care and support to people in regional and urban communities, throughout the Northern Territory, from Nhulunbuy, Darwin, Katherine and Kaltukatjara,” she said.

“We pride ourselves on delivering a high level of cultural appropriateness and infrastructure that responds to the environment we operate in. The security measures ARRCS takes are made to ensure that our ageing First Nations peoples can continue to access and reside in high-quality and culturally safe aged care within their local community.”

Alice Springs attracted national media attention at the start of the year amid an out-of-control wave of youth crime and alcohol-fuelled violence.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese flew in for crisis talks with NT Chief Minister Natasha Fyles in January, and the following month the NT government caved to pressure, announcing the reintroduction of alcohol bans in Indigenous communities.

Alice Springs Mayor Matt Paterson had blamed the lapsing of the Stronger Futures Act alcohol bans in July 2022 as the root of the latest “chaos”.

According to Mr Clark, however, “it didn’t ease up” after the restrictions were reintroduced. “The break-ins haven’t stopped, the stolen cars haven’t stopped, it’s crazy,” he said. “I reckon it’s worse than before.”

His popular page, which has 71,000 followers, shares reports of local crime incidents sent in by residents, “so many I can’t post all that I get”.

But Mr Clark estimated he was “getting about 10 per cent now” compared with 30 per cent previously because of “gag orders” on public servants and others.

“They’re scared to talk,” he said. “Shopping centres have been told not to talk, tourism people have been told not to talk.”

Last month, NT Police said plans were underway to tackle a predicted surge in summer crime following last summer’s record-breaking levels of violence.

Acting Commander James Gray-Spence told ABC Radio there had been “lessons learnt” from the ordeal. “For police, Operation Drina will continue, so that will be the high-visibility police … dedicated to being out there to reduce especially anti-social behaviour which we saw really peak in incidents over summer,” he said.

“That’s that in-your-face stuff that really affects your perception of safety when you’re moving in and around those high public-use spaces.”

Mr Gray-Spence told the broadcaster a multi-agency approach would be taken to tackle disorderly behaviour and youth crime.

“The broader planning for summer at the moment is co-ordination of government services,” he said.

“That’s where we sit down as directors and regional directors to make sure that it’s not just police out there — that we’ve got the referrals in place for other agencies for diversionary activities.”

The return of the Stronger Futures alcohol bans and reduced bottle shop trading hours would also have an impact, he predicted.

“It will be markedly different with the operating environment in which we are now, with alcohol restrictions, with what we’ve learned from Operation Drina from doing it from last year,” he said.

Alice Springs saw a 22 per cent increase in assaults, 28 per cent increase in domestic violence-related assaults, 28 per cent in alcohol-related assaults, 23 per cent increase in sexual assaults in the 12 months to August, according to the latest figures from NT Police.

Commercial break-ins rose 12 per cent and property damage was up 9 per cent, while house breaks were down slightly by 4 per cent to 998, and motor vehicle thefts fell 28 per cent to 342.

The Alice Springs local government area has a population of just 28,000.

According to the ABC, crime typically surges across the region over the summer as school holidays commence and houses are left empty.

Mr Clark said the town “just always goes nuts in summer, it always has”.

“Just because it’s hot — the nights are warmer so they just stay out all night,” he said. “Obviously if you’re drinking in 42 degrees, it knocks you around a bit quicker.”

Mr Clark was sceptical of statements by police.

“It’s bulls**t,” he said.

“They’re not ready for summer. They haven’t got enough police. They can’t do it. They’re not ready. They can’t keep up now. If you ring police you’re lucky if they turn up. We just know nothing’s going to happen, there’s no ramifications — it’ll ignite.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 27, 2023 4:56 pm

Farewell to Daniel Andrews, a ‘fiscally inept’ premier who bankrupted Victoria and represented the very worst of modern Australian politics

Daniel Andrews’ resignation signals the end of an almost nine-year reign during which he greatly harmed Victoria’s political and social fabric, writes Alexander Voltz.

Let ring the bells – Dictator Dan has finally fallen!

Daniel Andrews’ resignation as the 48th Premier of Victoria is music to my ears, and Victorians are no doubt, and rightly, toasting this man’s political demise.

Let us not be caught out by the performative sentiments offered at today’s surprise press conference just now;

Mr Andrews deserves the sharpest of words as he retreats from office only ten months after his government was re-elected.

He described Anthony Albanese as “a dear friend of mine for nearly three decades” who “knows how to build things [and] get things done”.

If it is Mr Andrews’ perception that the Albanese Government is on track to deliver the needs of the Australian people, I would suggest he is possessed of a particularly poor judgement – unless those needs include bulldozing North Queensland’s World Heritage-listed rainforests, censoring free speech and enshrining a race-based advisory body into the Constitution.

Of course, the apple falls not so far from the tree, and the nightmarish policies of the federal Labor Party are alive and well in Australia’s second most populated state.

Mr Andrews has done more to destabilise the economic and social fabric of Victoria than many of his recent predecessors.

As he departs Spring Street, hopefully never to return in any sort of political or administrative capacity, he leaves behind – literally – a bankrupted state.

Victoria’s projected net debt by 2027 is $171.4 billion, or 25 per cent of its gross product – the highest projected net debt of any state in Australian history.

Last financial year, Victorians paid $10.6 million dollars in interest every day, billed daily for the fiscal ineptitudes of a carefree government.

The city of Melbourne, as a result of Mr Andrews’ explicit directives, holds the record as the most locked-down city in the world during the COVID-19 pandemic.

A whole generation of school children and an uncountable number of businesses and institutions were sacrificed on Mr Andrews’ altar of public safety.

For a man who claims to be transparent, Mr Andrews’ personal affairs remain shrouded in mystery.

The people of Victoria know virtually nothing of the circumstances that led to a life-threatening back injury in 2021, and scant few details surrounding his four day state-sponsored excursion to Beijing in March this year.

Equally, the circumstances that led to the cancellation of the 2026 Commonwealth Games – those being related to their price tag – are difficult to stomach, particularly in light of Mr Andrews’ irresponsible economic approach to several other matters.

In this year alone, he has been referred to Victoria’s Independent Broad-based Anti-corruption Commission (IBAC) more than once, appearing most recently in July over concerns regarding political donations from property developer John Woodman.

It is publicly unknown just how many times Mr Andrews has fronted the anti-corruption commission.

A self-proclaimed Catholic, Mr Andrews voted for same-sex marriage, supports Australia toppling its stable Crown for a partisan president, and, only a week after the fated ‘Let Women Speak’ rally, announced a funding package of $900,000 for various organisations to provide “essential” transgender services.

There has to be at least one contradiction in all of that – but, of course, an ever-modest Mr Andrews told today’s cameras: “Trying to be popular, you know, that’s not worth much.”

Most reprehensible to me, however, is that in 2018 the Andrews Government introduced the concept of medically supervised injecting rooms; that is, a clinic where drug addicts may legally inject themselves with illegal drugs.

Legislation enacted this year now makes permanent one such clinic in Richmond, the North Richmond Community Health centre, which, abhorrently, is only 65m from Richmond West Primary School.

Since 2019, it has been reported that illegal drugs may be dealt legally within close proximity to the North Richmond Community Health Centre, whereby drug dealers – yes, drug dealers – are permitted to carry up to thirty “hits” of heroin.

Police have been instructed “not to patrol the area around the facility”, so according to The Age.

This is just one of the lesser-known, more reprehensible social policies brought into effect by the Andrews Government.

That same government, reported by The Guardian in August last year, has a blanket rule in place to vote against any private members’ bills, regardless of the bill itself.

In other words, Daniel Andrews is seemingly more interested in maintaining the status quo of party politics than he is in identifying and implementing the very best legislative ideas for the people of Victoria.

In today’s press conference, Mr Andrews described himself as a man who is not “regretful”.

“Legacy is for other people to determine,” he said.

“Leadership is about subjecting yourself to the judgement, the almost continuous judgement, of others.

“I’m not a regretful person.

“I don’t look back.”

And who can blame him, when the rear-view mirrors of his premiership are marked by such carnage.

Victorians have been selfishly abandoned by a Premier appearing to represent the very worst qualities of modern Australian politics.

And, ultimately, Victorians will foot the bill – economically, socially and, not least of all, morally.

From the Comments

– Good article Alexander. May the bells long ring for Dan, but unfortunately another hard lefty is waiting to take the reigns of the democracy killing beast that is the Labor party.

– The early end to one of the worst politicians to ever grace the shores of Australia.

Thank God he is gone, but there will be more of the same with the next marxist fool promoted to Premier.

– he leaves behind – literally – a bankrupted state.

– Broke state, massive debts.

But that’s why the left kept voting himback.

The left are very happy with Dan.

Now Albo will fulfil the same promises to the left.

The headline should have said “ Fiscally incompetent Communist Premier that turned the state of Victoria into the worlds newest Third World country , then bolted quicker than McGowan and Arden combined “ .

JMH
JMH
September 27, 2023 4:56 pm

Just wondering out loud if the “Rent-A-Nazi” mob will show up at the Andrews Resignation Celebration happening in Melbourne right now.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 4:56 pm

Vicki

IIRC, there were two Helens. One posted as Helen Davidson (nmrn), was on a station in the NY, and referred to her husband as Captain. I think I have seen her posting a couple of years ago, but could not put a precise date on it.

The other posted simply as Helen, I don’t recall much about what she posted.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 5:00 pm

Vicki

IIRC, there were two Helens. One posted as Helen Davidson (nmrn), was on a station in the NY, and referred to her husband as Captain. I think I have seen her posting a couple of years ago, but could not put a precise date on it.

The other posted simply as Helen, I don’t recall much about what she posted, except that I seem to recall a reference to researching WW I family members quite recently

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
September 27, 2023 5:04 pm

Dot
Sep 27, 2023 1:14 PM

MERCH
https://www.shop.ldp.org.au/product/no-to-division-t-shirt/
Colour: Black, White (LOL)

Tough choice.
If I choose white I’ll be labelled a white supremacist.
If I choose black I’ll be accused of pushing black into the background.
This merch is divisive!
Do you have anything in Chamberlain grey?

Lysander
Lysander
September 27, 2023 5:08 pm

Test-ease

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 5:08 pm

station in the NT, not NY!

Chris
Chris
September 27, 2023 5:09 pm

Over at Instapundit, we can see Sarah Hoyt’s shocked typeface.

Lysander
Lysander
September 27, 2023 5:09 pm

Test-ease

Pft! Now it works!!!…. (despite earlier today solving the mystery of the meaning of life, posting it only to get an error… I’ve forgotten it now… 😛

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 5:11 pm

There is a slippery slope from SSM to trans fanaticism (irreversible, damaging surgery on children) if you look at a very short time scale of 2017 to now.

SSM has been around since 2004 in Australia (indirectly, then repealed) and the popularisation of the trans stuff happened around 2009 – 2011 and up to 2015 as mass media and on demand entertainment and vouyerism. IIRC the ACT had SSM very briefly in 2013 then they were reminded they’re a town council.

It happened before we had a (probably illegal) “postal plebiscite” and before the USSC (wrongly, IMO) decided the matter judiciallly and Federally. Unless someone opposes civil unions as well the slippery slope stuff is specious.

The earliest (true) case of gay marriage I could find was in 1970. It occurred with a valid licence and without fraud.

That’s a big difference between that and changing a kid’s sex behind their parents backs.

From interviews I’ve seen in Canada, gays are opposed to stuff like the Canadian trans laws. They feel that they would have been put through the surgery whereas they might have just been effeminate boys or butch girls. To them the trans fanatics are not accepting of their sexuality.

That’s not a perspective the Pritzkers and “yeet the teats” ‘Doctors’ would find agreeable.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 5:21 pm

“I’m not a regretful person.

“I don’t look back.”

One of the traits of the sociopath.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 5:27 pm

Makka’s mention made me look up this supposed drama on SBS. Taxpayer money presumably created it. As vacuous, woke, and absolutely crap as the recent drama which supposedly portrayed Brits coming out to Oz in the 1950s.

‘What were the lesbians doing?’ The wartime drama like no other
By Lenny Ann Low

On a parched field, in the rolling hills and gum tree landscape outside Orange, a gang of three TV production staff are preparing to be splattered with fake blood. The group, part of the crew and creatives behind SBS series While the Men Are Away, are wearing white plastic raincoats and chattering nervously as a machine hooked up to air-pressure tanks is test-loaded with dark red liquid before them.

“It’s gotta be right across the face,” says production designer Alicia Clement. A small crowd gathers, throwing encouraging words. The machine’s button is released and, with a loud bang, the trio’s cheeks, necks and chests are showered in a viscous claret-hued fluid.

The assembled crew clap with relief.

“Bullseye,” Clement says, wiping sticky red droplets from her nose.

As the setting sun turns the clouds above pink, week six of the dramedy series’ shoot in central NSW is readying for a crucial scene. Metres away, a shiny red tractor and hay baler, the centrepiece of the proposed blood-splattering scene, waits with its engine rumbling. Beside it, actors Michela De Rossi and Bryce Youngman, playing husband and wife Francesca and Harry Whitmore, shiver in the suddenly cold dusk.

Their blood-doused scene, a flashback, will answer a defining question at the beginning of the series’ eight episodes: where has Harry gone?

Set in the 1940s in a town called Bush, with filming locations including NSW towns Orange, Millthorpe and Carcoar, along with a sliver of Sydney, While the Men Are Away is a queer reimagining of rural and urban Australia during World War II and focuses on the women and the few men left behind as the enlisted fight overseas.

The war rages far away, but five characters, variously yearning for freedom, friendship, sex and love, band together on a suffering apple farm to discover themselves while countering threats from locals, in-laws, government restrictions, the law and social mores of the time.

Leading the charge is De Rossi’s character Francesca, known as Frankie, an Italian immigrant and wife of farm-owner Harry Whitmore, who has enlisted in the war.

Haunted by her past, she is having a secret affair with Rita, a local married woman, but also shares a bigger secret with local indigenous farmhand Kathleen, played by Phoebe Grainer, who lives at an Aboriginal mission, and conscientious objector Robert, played by Matt Testro, whose father has been left traumatised by World War I.

Joining them one hot sunny day are two city recruits of the Women’s Land Army, the jolly and privileged Gwen, played by Max McKenna, and the unhappily engaged Esther, played by Jana Zvedeniuk.

The biggest threat to the world these characters begin to strive for is Frankie’s brother-in-law, Des Whitmore, played by Benedict Hardie.

A sexist spiv with a fancy car, he has plans to build a prisoner-of-war camp on the farm, which he now owns, and unwanted desires on Frankie, who needs his money to continue the farm.

“With all the men away, and being a weak, non-alpha, cowardly, foolish buffoon of a male, now is Des’s time to shine,” Hardie says. “He’s going to step up and become the new rooster in town, in his own eyes and no one else’s.

“Privilege, insensitivity and ignorance has allowed people like him to be oblivious to the fact that women might be gaining autonomy or queer people might be confident in their identity.

“He is 100 per cent a creature of the 1940s, has no reason for modern thoughts to enter his mind and is absolutely besotted with his brother’s wife, who is not interested at all. But, she is canny and smart and a survivor and she knows she needs to keep him on her side.”

The show, created by Alexandra Burke, Kim Wilson and Monica Zanetti, is a glimpse into characters not normally explored in wartime dramas, at a time when life was traditionally dictated by male figures.

Showrunner and co-writer Kim Wilson (Deadloch, Wentworth, The Lost Flowers of Alice Hart) says she was particularly interested in how rapid social changes of the time affected people.

“There really was a fizz in the air,” she says. “Women receiving their first paychecks ever. Massive. Such a huge thing. But, once you’ve experienced that new sense of autonomy, can you go back? Or do you find a different way?”

Wilson and the show’s co-creators were also keen the series should feel contemporary. “Because who they were, and what they’re going through, are things that still have resonance for today as well,” she says.

“When we talk about the war [in drama], we’re not talking about these people who worked on the farm. We talk about people at war. Now it’s time to tell other stories.”

Consequently, While the Men Are Away, which is directed by Elissa Down and Zanetti, has a modern, switched-on tone against the era’s stiff manners, flowery dresses, and doily-covered side tables. It combines whip-smart comedy, true poignancy, trailblazing messages for present-day and various nods to the recent past.

One character quips they “don’t hold the hose”, echoing former prime minister Scott Morrison’s quote. Kathleen, faced with the idea of matrimony, responds, “To hell with marriage. It’s just another colonial assimilation tool”.

With the men away, a 12-year-old boy is running the bank, and Bush’s three busybodies are called Mrs Bushell, Miss Arnott and Mrs Toohey. Meanwhile, the women on the farm are discovering the vibratory qualities of the seat of the tractor, labelled the Power Bottom 3000, when its revs are high.

“We don’t undercut things with comedy when it’s important to lean into the emotion of it,” Wilson says. “We’ve basically set out to write a show about the people we would have hung out with if we had lived during that time.

“I’ve always been in a queer, Bohemian, arty kind of circle. And those kinds of circles throughout history have always fascinated me. The Bloomsbury set. The cabaret scene in Berlin in the ’20s. Those are the times when anything seems possible. We wanted to capture that feeling incorporated with modern concepts.”

While the script doesn’t feature words that weren’t used in 1940s Australia, it does allude to concepts such as the #MeToo movement. Characters question traditional man-woman marriage and parenthood, the abuse of power, the fate of nature and the planet.

The two Land Girls, Gwen and Esther, discover freedoms and strengths they never expected after arriving to work on Frankie’s farm.

Max McKenna, whose character Gwen discovers her true self after developing a deep bond with Frankie, says they were drawn to the series because of the depth of the script and characters.

“We have such a range of ridiculous comedy,” they say. “I have a lot of physical comedy in the show, but then there’s these heartbreaking, trauma drama scenes that I don’t think you get a lot of, especially in Australia.

“Shows are either solely comedy or solely drama. This series really does dramedy well. But, it also tells stories about this time that we haven’t heard yet, from five different people’s perspectives.

“When we talk about the war [in drama], we’re not talking about these people who worked on the farm. We talk about people at war. Now it’s time to tell other stories. What were the lesbians doing back then? We all want to know that. It’s really cool.”

De Rossi, who lives in Italy, says working with McKenna has opened her eyes to different perspectives in real life.

“This person [McKenna] taught me a lot of stuff,” she says. “I had never used pronouns in my life. I grew up [doing this series]. I’m a much more respectful person and I’ve learnt a lot about the queer world. We don’t talk about that [in Italy]. I’m so proud to bring this with me in my country, which is 50 years back in the past with this stuff.”

While the Men Are Away also explores racism towards immigrants such as Frankie and the government’s treatment of First Nations people.

Grainer, a Kuku Djungan, Muluridji, Wakaman, Tagalaka, Kunjen, Warrgamay and Yindinji woman from Far North Queensland, says her character, Kathleen, is a strong person dealing with life with few rights.

“She’s surviving the realities of the political and social climate she lives in,” she says. “But then she finds this little gang of misfits who see her in a real way. She allows herself to have hope. This wonderful hope that she will be free and able to be someone who is seen for herself.”

As fading shafts of sun hit the surrounding hills, the other star of the series, Ammerdown Homestead, is lit with light. Built in 1906, with vast grounds, landscaped gardens, sweeping driveways and original brick and wood barn buildings and stables, the main house is the home of Frankie.

Traditional portraits of just-married Frankie and Harry line the walls, but closer inspection reveals biscuit tins, telegrams, and advertisements in open magazines illustrated with each episode’s opening titles.

Production designer Clements, fresh-faced after her blood-flecked experience, says she is passionate about period drama, particularly a highly created world.

“It’s a unique world with its own flavour and colours,” she says. “Alex Burke, the creator, said to me in the interview process, she didn’t want any sepia, any olde-worlde tones. There’s an otherworldly, kind of magic-realism feeling all around us.

“There’s the pop of the bright, luscious hay baler, which we call the death machine. It’s in the wallpaper, the trucks and all of costume designer Nina Edwards’ incredible costumes.

“In every stage of creating this world, in every room and location, we’ve gone with the bolder choice. Even though we’re setting this against the hues of the Australian landscapes, the historic Ammerdown homestead’s paler palette, nothing is beige.”

Even the last words in the end titles are emboldening: “Special thanks to … All those who question the status quo”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 5:36 pm

Makka’s mention made me look up this supposed drama on SBS.

I wonder what my grandmother would have made of the show? She always said her contribution to the war effort was running two farms, and raising five children.

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 5:38 pm

The fact that they’re a signatory is neither here nor there.

Why so?

There are several Asian countries, for instance, that observe the Convention in the breach. There’s nothing exceptional in China’s example here.

But there is something exceptional. China demands all other countries recognize almost all the China Sea and Chinese territory, and therefore the shipping lane falls into Chinese hands. This is unacceptable behavior and the reason why, along with allies in the region, they frequently send naval ships through. China objects to this very aggressively and they’re in no position to protest and threaten. Stick a bunch of cement and sand on a few shallow rocks and then demand people recognize this is sovereign Chinese territory. You have to be kidding.

In other words, China and Taiwan have the same claim because they both believe they represent the historical Chinese nation.

You can put this argument aside because Taiwan isn’t a threat and won’t be.

And Vietnam about 50% incl. an international waterway while Philipines about 40% and again part of an international waterway. Whether it belongs to any of them is in dispute, but nevertheless, innocent passage is permitted either way to cargo ships.

Of course, other countries are taking similar actions when they see China attempting to glom most of the waters and then threatening their fishing boats in the region.

I don’t blame them. How else do you expect one of the factions in a civil war to respond to other nations sending a delegation to the other faction.

Oh please. It’s pretty well settled that Taiwan is a separate nation posing zero threat to China. Also, you never hear Taiwan complain when delegations are visiting Beijing.

Moreover, we have a one China policy, what is the point of sending a delegation to Taiwan ahead of Albo’s trip to Beijing given the already strained diplomatic relationship? Amateur hour diplomacy.

We have a relationship with Taiwan. It’s a real country, and the bullshit camouflage of non-official recognition is simply to placate Beijing. They can’t have it all. Fck’em.

You better hope His excellency, The Right honorable Thought Leadership doesn’t read this as he’s going to go apeshit. 🙂

Lysander
Lysander
September 27, 2023 5:39 pm

I think Andrews’ most telling line was: “You know it’s time to go when you wake up and you resent the job. That’s not me yet”

Then why say it Dan?

In the words of Tucker: “Have you ever met a dictator who loved his people?”

local oaf
September 27, 2023 5:39 pm

Just wondering out loud if the “Rent-A-Nazi” mob will show up at the Andrews Resignation Celebration happening in Melbourne right now.

I wonder too, whether they’ll show up at a polling booth on October 14th, maybe one where a high profile NO campaigner or Liberal politician might be casting their vote?

Would be handy audio-visual material for future indoctrination of the kiddies.

“The heroic and brave attempt by Labor to help the downtrodden indigenous, foiled by evil Nasti adjacent far right white supremacists”.

No doubt MSM would conveniently be present to record them for posterity.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 27, 2023 5:41 pm

Even the last words in the end titles are emboldening: “Special thanks to … All those who question the status quo”.

I question the status quo. We’ve given everything away to a bunch of brainless perverts. It’s high time real men and women took it back.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 5:42 pm

War crimes investigators given access to restricted documents in Roberts-Smith case
By Michaela Whitbourn
September 27, 2023 — 3.49pm

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War crimes investigators and the Australian Federal Police have been granted access to restricted documents on the court file in Ben Roberts-Smith’s failed defamation case amid active investigations into allegations Australian soldiers broke the rules of engagement in Afghanistan.

Federal Court Justice Robert Bromwich on Wednesday altered national security orders and granted the AFP and the Office of the Special Investigator (OSI) access to some material on the sensitive court file in the defamation case. The OSI is the agency investigating the war crimes allegations.

The court heard Roberts-Smith did not oppose the Commonwealth’s application on behalf of the OSI to access a list of documents that had been narrowed following out-of-court discussions. However, he did not actively consent.

Bromwich said the former Special Air Service soldier’s “neutral stance” was understandable, and he was “not standing in the way of the order”.

“He is, it’s now openly acknowledged, the subject of an investigation,” Bromwich said.

“No one knows where that’s going to end up. I think someone who’s facing at least the possibility of a further proceeding of some kind, I don’t want to say anything more than that, would justifiably take a neutral stance.”

The material that may be accessed by investigators includes the transcript of parts of the defamation trial held behind closed doors to protect national security information, subject to redactions. Some sensitive outlines of evidence will also be accessed, along with documents tendered in closed court.

Documents relating to an Inspector-General of the Defence Force (IGADF) inquiry, which examined allegations about the conduct of Australian soldiers in Afghanistan and led to the establishment of the OSI, were excluded on the basis they are subject to statutory immunities preventing their use in other proceedings.

The OSI has previously indicated it has more than 30 active investigations into the alleged commission of criminal offences by members of the Australian Defence Force in Afghanistan between 2005 and 2016.

Bromwich ordered the Commonwealth to pay Roberts-Smith’s legal costs of the application on the basis the position ultimately agreed by the parties had been proposed by the former soldier’s legal team at an earlier date.

Arthur Moses, SC, acting for Roberts-Smith, said the Commonwealth had previously sought “access to the entirety of the sensitive court file irrespective of whether it included material that was protected by … immunities”.

He said the Commonwealth later “changed course and confirmed that it would not seek certain documents”, including IGADF transcripts of evidence.

“The Commonwealth has capitulated to the concerns raised by [Roberts-Smith],” Moses said. He said later it had “effectively surrendered” and changed its position dramatically.

But Jennifer Single, SC, acting for the Commonwealth, said “it can’t be said that the Commonwealth capitulated its position” and Roberts-Smith started from a position of blanket opposition before changing his stance.

Single said the OSI had always been “very much aware” of immunities and had proposed a system to address this, before the parties agreed on a list of “carve-outs” to the documents sought.

In a historic decision on June 1, Justice Anthony Besanko dismissed Roberts-Smith’s multimillion-dollar defamation case against The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

Besanko found the newspapers had proven to the civil standard – on the balance of probabilities – that Roberts-Smith was a war criminal who was complicit in the murder of four unarmed prisoners in Afghanistan. He also found the news outlets had proven the former Special Air Service corporal had bullied a fellow soldier.

Roberts-Smith has consistently denied wrongdoing. He is appealing against that decision and the Full Court of the Federal Court will hear the appeal between February 5 and 16.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 5:45 pm

“You know it’s time to go when you wake up and you resent the job. That’s not me yet”

Yes it is. That’s why you said it.

Robert Sewell
September 27, 2023 5:45 pm

OldOzzie

Sep 27, 2023 4:56 PM
Farewell to Daniel Andrews, a ‘fiscally inept’ premier who bankrupted Victoria and represented the very worst of modern Australian politics

The idiots voted for a Socialist, and they got – Surprise! – Socialism!
My sympathy for the poor buggers who voted for the other bloke, but perhaps it’s time to get out of Victoria?

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 27, 2023 5:45 pm

Seems like a very long-winded excuse to get some fresh boobs out on the SBS.
…there will be some t&a, won’t there?
…because empowerment and truths, right?

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 5:52 pm

A lot of error messages coming up Dover. All different.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 5:53 pm

“Special thanks to … All those who question the status quo”.

I question the status quo of slinging taxpayer money at insipid ” current year” bilge like this.
Is that the right sort of quo you want questioned?

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 5:57 pm

Yep, Unmolested innocent passage of cargo ships.

Key Points

President Xi Jinping’s “nine-dash” declaration claims sovereignty for Beijing over almost all the South China Sea.
Of all the countries with cause to be concerned about that claim, perhaps none have more on the line than Japan and South Korea.
In particular, Japan and South Korea are concerned about Chinese declarations which invoke not only the right to inspect cargo, but also the ability to restrict traffic.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 6:00 pm

So many questions. Oz focus here.

—-

My Lunch Break:

Old World is Worldwide? | Part 1

Gabor
Gabor
September 27, 2023 6:02 pm

Makka
Sep 27, 2023 3:49 PM

Thomas Mayo is considered the architect of the Voice. Albo pays heartfelt tribute to him.

I don’t know, maybe I’m looking at the wrong picture, but he doesn’t look aboriginal to me.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 6:03 pm
JC
JC
September 27, 2023 6:10 pm

I don’t know, maybe I’m looking at the wrong picture, but he doesn’t look aboriginal to me.

He’s aboriginal alright. He comes from the Albino tribe who are all white.

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 6:12 pm

Besanko found the newspapers had proven to the civil standard – on the balance of probabilities – that Roberts-Smith was a war criminal who was complicit in the murder of four unarmed prisoners in Afghanistan. He also found the news outlets had proven the former Special Air Service corporal had bullied a fellow soldier.

Interesting take on how defamation and civil claims work.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 27, 2023 6:12 pm

From the Oz.

ABF commissioner will meet with Portuguese counterparts ahead of ACT decriminalising drugs

Australian Border Force commissioner Michael Outram will meet with his Portuguese counterparts to discuss the impact of drug decriminalisation, as the ACT prepares to scrap criminal charges for the possession of small amounts of ice, heroin, cocaine and other substances.

Portugal decriminalised illicit substances in 2001 and while drug use initially fell, the rate of drug abuse and overdose has increased again in recent years.

Overdose rates have now hit 12-year highs and almost doubled in Lisbon between 2019 and 2023, ­according to reports.
The move comes as the Attorney-General’s Department and Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions revealed on Tuesday they were not consulted by the ACT government over its softening of drug laws.

An ACT government spokeswoman said Territory officials discussed the reform process “on a number of occasions with commonwealth officials”.

“The ACT government has worked closely with ACT Policing throughout the legislative process and subsequently through the 12 month implementation period, as well as experts across the ACT and Australia,” she said.
“In addition, the Legislative Assembly established a Select Committee on the Drugs of Dependence (Personal Use) Amend­ment Bill 2021. The committee received 59 submissions, 778 responses to an online survey and held five days of public hearings. It was open to the commonwealth to participate in this process.”

ABF national operations deputy commissioner Tim Fitzgerald said the use of illicit drugs did “significant social harm”.

“We are examining what impact if any decriminalisation will have on the border … but based on current seizure data, we won’t see any decrease in attempts to traffic illicit drugs into this country,” he told a joint parliamentary committee on law enforcement.

Mr Fitzgerald said 75 to 80 per cent of illicit drugs being trafficked were getting across the Australian border.

The ABF confirmed Mr Outram would meet virtually with customs counterparts from Portugal “over the coming weeks”.
“The purpose of the meeting with Portuguese authorities will be to discuss several matters including drug importation trends and the impacts of decriminalisation of illicit substances,” an ABF spokesman said.

The Police Association of NSW told the law enforcement committee decriminalising or legalising illicit drugs including ice, heroin or MDA “cannot be achieved safely under current ­circumstances”.

“Decriminalisation creates too many practical difficulties for police officers to implement policy, and there are inadequately designed and resourced diversionary programs,” it said.

“At this stage, we do not believe a threshold has been met whereby community members can be kept safe through a process of decriminalising or legalising ­illicit ‘hard’ drugs, including amphetamines, heroin, cocaine and MDMA. Hard drugs cause enormous amounts of harm to society, and the PANSW believes any move to make (them) easier to use will create further problems.”

Vicki
Vicki
September 27, 2023 6:13 pm

IIRC, there were two Helens. One posted as Helen Davidson (nmrn), was on a station in the NY, and referred to her husband as Captain. I think I have seen her posting a couple of years ago, but could not put a precise date on it.

The other posted simply as Helen, I don’t recall much about what she posted.

Thanks Boambee J – if anyone else has any info – would love to know.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 27, 2023 6:15 pm

DrBeauGan
Sep 27, 2023 5:41 PM

Even the last words in the end titles are emboldening: “Special thanks to … All those who question the status quo”.

I question the status quo. We’ve given everything away to a bunch of brainless perverts. It’s high time real men and women took it back.

I don’t think that is the type of “questioning” they have in mind.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 6:17 pm

I don’t know, maybe I’m looking at the wrong picture, but he doesn’t look aboriginal to me.

Surely not….

a famous Tasmanian Aboriginal of the present day….

Here is another one, a famous farmer

Here is another who has been on a suntan mission….

Just don’t question it. The Voice will fix it.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 6:20 pm

Just wrote a great post on white aboriginals but got this when launching:

Service Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

The censor at work?

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 6:23 pm

maybe I’m looking at the wrong picture, but he doesn’t look aboriginal to me.

Yes, a more swarthy ME type than indigenous perhaps. But as the Architect of the Voice and importantly,a hero to Albo, Mayo’s praise for his Communist Party mentors should be part of LNP’s NO campaign message.

If Kamahl can spot the obscenity then surely Dutton can flog it too?

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 6:24 pm

I just read that Peter. You obviously saw the stand out.

Mr Fitzgerald said 75 to 80 per cent of illicit drugs being trafficked were getting across the Australian border.

Success.

So we effectively have all the drugs that are demanded coming in without much of a problem.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 6:24 pm

Amazing! I got both!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 6:25 pm
Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 6:29 pm

Thomas Mayo is considered the architect of the Voice. Albo pays heartfelt tribute to him.

I thought it was Marcia…no, wait, Noel.

So many parents; yet it’ll be an orphan if the referendum fails.

Btw, I see Noel is now saying all we need is love.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 27, 2023 6:31 pm

He’s aboriginal alright. He comes from the Albino tribe who are all white.

An Albiriginal.

Robert Sewell
September 27, 2023 6:31 pm

Dot

Sep 27, 2023 5:11 PM
There is a slippery slope from SSM to trans fanaticism (irreversible, damaging surgery on children) if you look at a very short time scale of 2017 to now.

Dot, I reject the contention that gays are against the whole gamut of child sexual exploitation, trans surgery etc.
There were enough of them and hangers on to push the Gay Marriage issue over the line, so how come there isn’t enough to stop the sexual mutilation of children?

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 6:40 pm

An Albiriginal.

Alboriginal…of the Marxist mob.

cohenite
September 27, 2023 6:49 pm

They are going to get Trump: he does appraisals and the banks accept them after due diligence. The fuking judge acting on the assertions of that fat pig AG says that doesn’t matter; they were fraudulent.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/09/26/michael-cohen-nyc-fraud-ruling-will-likely-lead-to-trump-bankruptcy/

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 27, 2023 6:49 pm
Razey
Razey
September 27, 2023 6:54 pm

Alcosleazy wants you all the make the right deshizun. Dont ya know if you vote No you’re a Nazi!

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 6:55 pm

Qantas bosses being grilled by Senate Committee don’t have a clue how they came to support the Yes campaign….

Grabbing the poisoned chalice and taking a big swig.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 27, 2023 6:56 pm

Albinoriginal not to be mixed up with Alboriginals.

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 6:57 pm

Cronkite
Trump Org valued properties that were under rent control equal to ones that weren’t. The “judge” is saying this is obvious fraud. It’s not. The banks would know there would be a valuation differential. Also, the valuations could have been accurate because Trump has managed to remove rent control parasites before. The judge is a crook.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 27, 2023 6:57 pm

ACT town council doesn’t look too good to those looking on. Still Australia’s longest running error.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
September 27, 2023 6:59 pm

From the Oz.

So, some aboriginal children don’t have secondary schools to go to.
Largely, AFAIKT, because they live in small settlements far away from where the existing secondary schools are located.

Of course the University “Experts” don’t mention the fact that even where there are schools (primary and secondary), aboriginal children often don’t attend.

As people that have to deal with the disfunction in these towns know, taking young aboriginal children home late at night, the people need to locate a grand parent because they are the ones most likely not drunk or drugged, and can actually read and write English.

NT schools in crisis: No choice as children ‘lost’ to life of crime

A decade-old policy that stopped providing high school education in remote Indigenous communities in the Northern Territory has had “disastrously bad” outcomes, university-led research has shown, with some of the affected children joining criminal gangs.

In one affected community, almost one in 10 students had never been to high school, and almost three-quarters (74 per cent) dropped out before the end of year 10 and were “smoking”, “self-harming”, “long-grassing” (living on the streets or bushland) or “married up” instead.

One elder quoted in the report, published by the Australian National University, said: “They are bored, lacking in any direction, no hope for the future. Lost! That’s what they are, lost.”

Seventy-eight remote NT communities have no access to local secondary education as a result of the 2014 government review, “A Share in the Future”.

Instead, students face what has been called a “choice-less choice”.

According to NT government policy, when remote Indigenous students reach year 8, they can move to a town with a high school or attend boarding school, interstate or in the NT.
If they continue school locally, they can only access post-primary literacy and numeracy programs delivered in a primary school.

NT Education Minister Eva Lawler confirmed these were the options for secondary students but did not comment on the impact of the policy.

Although many Indigenous students across Australia travel to boarding school, the Northern Territory is the only jurisdiction that has a policy of not providing local secondary education.

The NT Department of Education is reviewing secondary education to “assess and develop reform options to strengthen secondary education provision with a focus on increased participation, retention and completion, particularly in remote areas”.

NT acting Children’s Commissioner Nicole Hucks said the lack of choice was an issue. “Children have the right to an education,” she said. “This right extends to a child’s choice in their secondary education attainment, including accessing secondary education in their home community.”

ANU research fellow Marnie O’Bryan said the “draconian” policy of rolling back secondary education was at odds with “what is perceived to be the inalienable right of parents to choose where their children go to school”, which she said informed education funding models in Australia.

“That’s the argument that is constantly put to us; that independent, non-government schools should be able to receive government funding, because it enables parental choice,” Dr O’Bryan says. “But in remote Australia, nothing could be further from the truth. Actually, parents do not have a choice.”

Since 2018, she has been part of a research team studying long-term impacts of the loss of local secondary education on a single community, which can’t be named because of research ethics protocols. The research was commissioned by community elders, who were “tearing their hair out” over what has happened to their children.

“There are young people in that cohort who have now joined a gang, which is marauding up and down the countryside,” Dr O’Bryan said. “There is a direct correlation between them having dropped out of school and becoming criminalised.”

Dr O’Bryan and her team mapped the education pathways of 100 young people (aged 12-21) and described the educational outcomes as “disastrously bad”.

In 2019, of 80 young people (aged 12-18), nine had never attended high school.

According to an NT Department of Education spokesperson, in July 2023 there were 929 students in boarding schools being helped by their Transition Support Unit. One-third were boarding interstate, the rest at Territory boarding schools.

The NT government does not fund students attending interstate boarding schools, who receive scholarships or federal funding.

As part of her role as education manager of the Groote Eylandt and Bickerton Island Primary College Aboriginal Corporation, Josie Skelton supports 37 kids from Groote boarding off the island. She says they work hard to match kids with schools, sending families to spend time there before they commit to enrolling.

She says boarding works wonderfully for some students but others need a lot of emotional support.

Professor John Guenther, research leader for education and training with the Batchelor Institute of Indigenous Tertiary Education, said he had seen examples of young people who had returned with English-language proficiency and good experiences.

However, he said the support services for off-country boarding – which compensate for homesickness, mental health concerns and even attempted suicides – pointed to underlying problems.

“The fact that you’ve got to provide these extra supports says there’s a problem,” he said. “And that problem is something to do with removing kids from their home environment, their culture and their family.”

In the community Dr O’Bryan studied, there were 56 young people who travelled to cities all over Australia for boarding school. However, she said the gaps in the primary education they had received in their remote community largely set them up for failure.

“Every young person coming out of grade six in that community and being expected to transition to a mainstream boarding school was under a grade two literacy level,” she said. “And they were being sent to some of the highest-performing schools in Australia. Most didn’t last a couple of weeks. And their self-esteem was totally battered.”

Dr O’Bryan said while students who went to boarding school receive generous funding, in 2019, students who stayed in community were often unfunded, due to attendance-based funding.

“I think there is a perception in Australia that we’ve tried everything in remote education,” Dr O’Bryan said. “(People think) it’s too expensive. It’s too hard. And actually, it’s not true. If you look at the study we did, there were 58 young people of secondary school age living in that community. The school was receiving funding for 11 of them. Forty-seven young people were not having a single dollar spent on them.”

The challenges of boarding far from community have inspired some on-country boarding facilities, at Tiwi College, on Melville Island north of Darwin, and at the government Homeland Learning Centre in Garrthalala, a two-hour drive southwest of Nhulunbuy.

But Dr O’Bryan said it would take a lot for the Northern Territory to recover from “10 years of atrophy in remote secondary education”, which would require the government to “rebuild systems from the ground up”.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 7:08 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 7:10 pm

Of course the University “Experts” don’t mention the fact that even where there are schools (primary and secondary), aboriginal children often don’t attend.

It’s not unknowable for Aboriginal parents to refuse to send their children to school for fear of “losing their culture.”

Gabor
Gabor
September 27, 2023 7:18 pm

Makka
Sep 27, 2023 6:23 PM

maybe I’m looking at the wrong picture, but he doesn’t look aboriginal to me.
Yes, a more swarthy ME type than indigenous

Yup, again, if I’m looking at the right picture, he reminded me of the guy in one of the Harrison Ford movies, the one consumed by cockroaches in the end.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 7:18 pm

Lotsa looting in Philly

Way back when, there were serious riots in an American city, the name of which escapes me, and the authorities sent troops in to keep order – from memory, the National Guard, and 82nd Airborne, just returned from Vietnam.

One “urban sniper” was being interviewed, and admitted that he shot at the police, the firefighters, the National Guardsmen, but not the Airborne.

“Why not” came the question.

“Are you out of your mind? Those guys shoot back!”

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 7:26 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 7:27 pm
Pogria
Pogria
September 27, 2023 7:27 pm

I don’t know, maybe I’m looking at the wrong picture, but he doesn’t look aboriginal to me.

Gabor,
his Melanin content is Filipino. But that’s okay because of the vibe.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 7:28 pm

That log into the house. How about a rope attachment, d*ckheads! As for Granny, I’ve been there, p*ssed as in the same situation.

Lying on the floor 30 minutes. I’m just being honest.

—-

steveinman:

Dropping, Falling & Breaking Compilation

Crossie
Crossie
September 27, 2023 7:29 pm

Australian Border Force commissioner Michael Outram will meet with his Portuguese counterparts to discuss the impact of drug decriminalisation, as the ACT prepares to scrap criminal charges for the possession of small amounts of ice, heroin, cocaine and other substances.

Yet here in NSW police are mounting a huge operation to stamp out illegal tobacco and vapes. Tobacco is legal, so far, but vapes are about to be outlawed. I don’t smoke and never have so I don’t have a dog in this fight but I can clearly see the unfairness of the whole thing. What’s more and health issues aside, tobacco does not cause violence in the home and society at large as do so many other substances so I can’t understand the hostility to it.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 7:40 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2023 7:40 pm

Test.

Server error.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2023 7:41 pm

The Hun reporting Andrews now gets $300K per year, every year until he dies.

Marvellous. Just great.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 7:41 pm

They’re trying to do the same thing to Dave Portnoy, and others, all at the same time.

Dave Portnoy BLOWS THE LID off Russel Brand FRAME UP & Andrew Tate KICKED off the APP STORE!

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 7:44 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 7:47 pm

I don’t know, maybe I’m looking at the wrong picture, but he doesn’t look aboriginal to me.

Marcus Stewart (his great great grandfather was Aboriginal) points out that not all Aboriginals have dark skin….some can have surprisingly fair skin…

Dot
Dot
September 27, 2023 7:48 pm

There were enough of them and hangers on to push the Gay Marriage issue over the line, so how come there isn’t enough to stop the sexual mutilation of children?

There are not even enough conservatives to stop that, you need to be fair. There might be 1/5 people who are solidly conservative or sympatico and maybe 1% and honestly 2% max of the population who are gay (and no, not 5%, 10% or 15%…).

As for the hangers on they haven’t thought this through. Most people will not believe facts such as the sheer number of abortions that happen in Australia. You know well as I do that slogans like “these Nazis hate trans” are enough to cajole or scare them into falling in line.

They can’t think critically or for themselves. They get hugboxed and shamed into obedience. Don’t bother pointing out the Ukrainian Nazi stuff and the divide on queer stuff between Russia and Ukraine, they’ll likely glaze their eyes over and giggle, then call you a conspiracy theorist.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2023 7:55 pm

Test.

Tartaria.

Megan
Megan
September 27, 2023 7:55 pm

I could be wrong but I’m sure I’ve read somewhere that Mayo is of Filipino descent. He’s less indigenous than I am.

Another Fauxboriginal with a far too much to say in order to hide his hands out for mor munni.

Megan
Megan
September 27, 2023 7:56 pm

I hate my phone. HOLD not hide you useless piece of rubbish tech.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:02 pm

Climate scientist: I designed my research to sound catastrophic

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:03 pm
cohenite
September 27, 2023 8:04 pm

Cronkite
Trump Org valued properties that were under rent control equal to ones that weren’t. The “judge” is saying this is obvious fraud. It’s not. The banks would know there would be a valuation differential. Also, the valuations could have been accurate because Trump has managed to remove rent control parasites before. The judge is a crook.

They also claimed he estimated his penthouse at 33000 instead of 11000 sq meters. But he did that in separate applications. They going to get him. They lie, they make up charges and abuse the system.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:06 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 27, 2023 8:06 pm

I could be wrong but I’m sure I’ve read somewhere that Mayo is of Filipino descent. He’s less indigenous than I am.

Megan, Dark Emu goes there and with evidence. I consider Mayo on par with the white fauxboriginals infesting urban areas. Another rabble rouse but with some more disturbing ideological baggage.

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/thomas-and-me-part-1

Near the bottom but 3X paternal great grandfathers may have TI heritage. Rest is a liquorice allsorts so to say.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2023 8:08 pm

A lot of server errors today. Not a whinge.

They’re cyclical in nature.

Unless Big WEF Tech are coming for us all, that is.

Roger
Roger
September 27, 2023 8:11 pm

Marcus Stewart (his great great grandfather was Aboriginal) points out that not all Aboriginals have dark skin….some can have surprisingly fair skin…

And ginger beards.

And have never once in their lives faced disadvantage on account of their remote indigenous ancestry.

One of the best outcomes if the referendum fails would be race grifters getting booted from public life and the public teat.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2023 8:13 pm

Katie Hopkins

The TakeDown of GB News

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2023 8:16 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Sep 27, 2023 7:41 PM
The Hun reporting Andrews now gets $300K per year, every year until he dies.

Marvellous. Just great.

Equivalent to about 18 people on full time dole. Maybe he can be their new leader?

cohenite
September 27, 2023 8:17 pm

I don’t know how Trump stands it; every gangrenous demorat and swamp shit lying, betraying the nation and these phony, insidious law cases coming at him from all sides. Is biden or obuma doing this, I wonder.

Makka
Makka
September 27, 2023 8:18 pm

I’m not an AFL fan. So I was a little surprised when a few years back I started following this Ben Cousins bloke. I lived in WA at the time, before covid.

I read about his drug addled exploits and escapades, his amazing AFL achievements , the Brownlows and his swan dive into the hell pit of drug addiction. The damage his family experienced from Ben’s addiction was enormous. Traumatic. A really shocking story, to me anyways. But what really took my attention was the WApol scavengers, making their careers on the back of the misery that was Ben Cousins. Because he wanted to buy some meth, or ice.

They paraded him around like a prize horse- emaciated, bewildered, handcuffed, coming out of the divi van , dragged into court in front of the media. No humiliation was left out. These smug WApol c**ts were having a real ball with their prize convict.

Therefore it was so very pleasing to see again how far this amazing footy player Ben Cousins has come from the pits he once inhabited to the other night at the Brownlows.. Looking so fit, healthy , happy alongside his sister. A complete comprehensive life turnaround.

Congratulations Ben!

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 8:21 pm

Andrew Blot is a joke, feebly making excuses for Hunka, schooled by Ami Horowitz.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
September 27, 2023 8:24 pm

IIRC, there were two Helens. One posted as Helen Davidson (nmrn), was on a station in the NY, and referred to her husband as Captain. I think I have seen her posting a couple of years ago, but could not put a precise date on it.

The other posted simply as Helen, I don’t recall much about what she posted.

Wrong way round. The lady who posts as simply Helen is the one with the cattle station, I think a couple of hundred kilometres west of Katherine. She posted more recently than 2017/18. I remember her telling us that she might have to resign from a position on some government advisory board because she wouldn’t get a Covid vaccination.

I’m in the NT as well, about an hour southwest of Darwin near Dundee Beach. Hubby and I are young-ish retirees (early 60s), who spend our time pottering around our 20 acre bush block and fishing.

I also lurk a lot. 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2023 8:24 pm

The priority of the new Victorian premier….

equality of outcome

How Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and others must be smiling.

She’s worse, much worse than Dan.

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 8:25 pm

They also claimed he estimated his penthouse at 33000 instead of 11000 sq meters.

They don’t use meters there, they use square feet. Those fcckers have no idea about meters.

Delta A
Delta A
September 27, 2023 8:26 pm

Delta has been very quiet as well.

Thanks, Ranga. I am here. Just don’t have anything constructive or interesting to contribute to the conversation.

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 8:31 pm

cohenite
Sep 27, 2023 8:17 PM

I don’t know how Trump stands it; every gangrenous demorat and swamp shit lying, betraying the nation and these phony, insidious law cases coming at him from all sides. Is biden or obuma doing this, I wonder.

And crooked. They’ve been persecuting him since a week after he won the election in 2016- the evil fcuking pricks.

It’s the Kenyan and insiders in the administration helping to orchestrate. Demented would be told but wouldn’t know what’s going on.

JC
JC
September 27, 2023 8:33 pm

And don’t forget Garland too. This venom filled prick is still smarting over the rejection to SCOTUS.

duncanm
duncanm
September 27, 2023 8:34 pm

https://twitter.com/COVIDSelect

Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic
@COVIDSelect
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?BREAKING?

New allegation:
@CIA
secretly escorted Dr. Anthony Fauci into Agency Headquarters to “influence” its COVID-19 origins investigation.

Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic
@COVIDSelect
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Dr. Fauci’s suspicious moments are especially concerning in light of recent whistleblower testimony alleging
@CIA
rewarded six analysts with significant financial incentives to change their COVID-19 origins conclusion from a lab-leak to zoonosis.
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Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Pandemic
@COVIDSelect
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What difference does it make to
@CIA
whether the pandemic originated at a Chinese lab or in nature??

Now, same question for Dr. Fauci.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2023 8:38 pm

Delta A
Sep 27, 2023 8:26 PM

Hold tight lovely lady. ( :

ETER HICKMAN BMW HP4 RACE | IOMTT | Chin Camera full lap!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 27, 2023 8:40 pm

Helen, discussed above in several comments, posted a comment or two on the Cat somewhat recently. As in, sometime in the past few weeks.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 27, 2023 8:40 pm

One of the best outcomes if the referendum fails would be race grifters getting booted from public life and the public teat.

The “race grifters” around here, with their shirts claiming “Aboriginal by Blood, Not by Choice”, “Always Was, Always Will Be” (Aboriginal Land) and “Sovereignty Never Ceded?”

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2023 8:42 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 27, 2023 8:24 PM
The priority of the new Victorian premier….

equality of outcome

How Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and others must be smiling.

She’s worse, much worse than Dan.

Victoria is doomed. I probably should speed up my planning to depart.

calli
calli
September 27, 2023 8:42 pm

Yes, Sal, she did. The Error Portal ate my comment.

Good to see you ladies!

cohenite
September 27, 2023 8:47 pm

Andrew Blot is a joke, feebly making excuses for Hunka, schooled by Ami Horowitz.

And he interviewed this dickhead who attacked coal as being susceptible to wind droughts induced by El Nino rather than wind, as blot asked but did not get into the obvious greenie professor for asserting contrary utter rubbish.

Razey
Razey
September 27, 2023 8:50 pm

I look forward to receiving the gold medal at the next 100m dash. After all, according to Jasphincter, we will all get gold medals. Everyone wins.

  1. This is the WSJ but not paywalled. Also not what you’d expect.Decline and Fall of America? Not Yet Trump appears…

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