Open Thread – Thurs 12 Oct 2023


At the Café, Edouard Manet, 1879

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Brislurker
Brislurker
October 12, 2023 12:54 am

So very glad to have “The Cat” back! Been MIA for a few hours.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
October 12, 2023 12:57 am

Welcome back

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 12, 2023 1:18 am

Thanks Dover.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 12, 2023 1:20 am

Yeah cool. A young woman weighs in on Teh Voice, Herald Sun:

Indigenous leaders have called out the defunding of a youth justice program that connected young offenders with country and kept them out of trouble in Alice Springs as a clear example of why they need a Voice that withstands election cycles.

A worthy enough cause. What was it and who cut funding?

The boot camp began as an early intervention program for at-risk Aboriginal kids was so successful it expanded to include young people sentenced who would otherwise have ended up in a cell, but after a change of territory government in 2016 Labor defunded the service, leaving the campsite empty to this day.

In the years since Alice Springs has continued to experience waves of anti-social behaviour and youth crime, which became a flashpoint in the early Voice debate in January.

Rightio. Let’s hear from the young lady:

Yes23 spokeswoman Jade Ritchie said it has taken eighteen months of “listening, working with members of communities who understood their people’s needs” and develop the since-cut program.

“We got the right program by listening,” she said.

“We ran it and it worked.

“And then the government changed, a new policy was implemented and the program was axed.”

Ms Ritchie joined fellow Yes campaigners and Alice Springs local leaders on Wednesday to highlight the grassroots support for the referendum, which is just two days away.

Ok so funding was cut. How does this affect Ms Ritchie?

“For me, as a mother of Aboriginal children growing up in the NT, it’s the practical impacts on my community that is why I’m imploring people to vote Yes,” she said.

“Statistics show that my son has a higher likelihood of going to prison than university.”

Aboriginal children are overrepresented in the justice system, making up 99.3 per cent of Don Dale Youth Detention Centre and the Alice Springs Youth Detention Centre.

Ms Ritchie said a Voice would help avoid the “harm” inflicted on Indigenous communities through “policy mistakes or inaction”.

“This referendum is also about … giving us the opportunity to share ownership of our collective development,” she said.

So strong parenting and discipline are out the window. Let’s hear from others.

As campaigners blitzed every city, Labor Senator and widely respected “father of reconciliation” Pat Dodson delivered a powerful plea to voters in a speech to the National Press Club remotely from Western Australia, saying a Yes vote would take the nation forward.

“Are we going to go forward, or are we going to go backwards? Cop more of the same?” he said.

“Are the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people going to be at the table or picking up the crumbs? As we have been for the last 200 years.”

Mr Dodson was appointed Special Envoy for the Voice last year, but has been unable to campaign due to a difficult battle with cancer.

“I think the Australian people, there’s many of them, still to vote, and I encourage them to vote Yes in this referendum,” he said.

“There’s nothing to fear here. There’s only good to come out of this.”

Any others?

Meanwhile, cheers erupted and tears flowed as former Liberal MP Pat Farmer arrived at Uluru to end his epic 14,500 kilometre run around Australia supporting the Voice.

Anthony Albanese embraced Farmer at the finish line at the base of the iconic red monolith in Central Australia, and urged voters to support the referendum.

“It has been an honour of my life to be involved in this most important of campaigns, to do what John Howard spoke about almost 20 years ago to make our Constitution complete,” the Prime Minister said.

“It is incomplete while it pretends that this nation began in 1788.

FMD

Farmer said he was proud to have used his “gifts” – running and a working knowledge of the political system – to inspire Australians to come together in support of the referendum.

“On Saturday, we have an opportunity to learn from the mistakes of the past, to correct those mistakes and to move forward together as one,” he said.

Soaring temperatures in the red centre meant Farmer started his run before dawn and said the final leg of his journey, which has stretched Tasmania, to far north Queensland and Western Australia, was an emotional experience.

“When I first got my glimpse of Uluru … it brought a tear to my eye and a realisation that this journey was finally coming to an end,” he said.

Well yes it is coming to an end Forrest Gump. Maybe not in the way you envisage. There’s someone missing though. Someone who will philosophise with philosophy.

Yes campaigner and Cape York Indigenous leader Noel Pearson said no Australian had shown “greater love” to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people during the referendum than Farmer.

“But his love is matched … by hundreds and thousands and millions of Australians,” he said.

“They’re not going to walk or run 14,500 km.

“They’re gonna walk 20 metres to the polling booth on Saturday and follow Pat’s inspiration.”

Mr Pearson said it had been a “long campaign” with many ups and downs for people like himself, but Farmer’s run had always been able to revive his belief in the Australian people.

“I just want to express my gratitude to this great man and his family for setting the pace,” he said.

“Not just the physical pace, the moral pace for all of us to reach the destination on Saturday.”

Yes he really said that.

Mr Albanese said between now and polling day he hoped Australians would read the “clear proposition” on the ballot paper and “come to their own position”.

“I think when Australians read what is proposed – recognition through a body to make representations on matters affecting Indigenous people, with the parliament and government retaining its primacy – then the answer is very clear,” he said.

“The answer is Yes.”

Stick a fork in it Albo fer phuck sake. It’s done.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 12, 2023 1:23 am

Bit of blockquote fail but shit this was a hard read. Quite chuckle worthy.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 12, 2023 1:31 am

The place is back!

Excellent.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 12, 2023 1:32 am

He said Israeli Jews had been targeted in their “homeland … for one simple and only reason, their faith”.

“And it is with eternal sorrow that I acknowledge some of that hatred was seen in your own city and I’m deeply deeply sorry for it,” he said.

“Friends, I don’t want to live in a world where that happens and I won’t live in a state where that is allowed to happen.”

“I won’t live in a state where that is allowed to happen”

Red alert, ‘friends’. He’s no friend of yours. This is how the tyrants take over. They’ll stop something you want stopped today. Then they’ll stop you tomorrow.

Megan
Megan
October 12, 2023 1:33 am

Thanks Dover, for the effort you put in to keep the Cat up and running. It would seem to be a pretty thankless task but I want you to know that for so many of us out here it is deeply appreciated.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 12, 2023 1:38 am

Bit of blockquote fail but shit this was a hard read. Quite chuckle worthy.

If Pearson makes good on his promise to bugger off if No gets up, I say let that chameleon, that embarrassing MLK imitator, enjoy his salad days. All three of them.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 12, 2023 1:45 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 12, 2023 1:46 am

Is it Saturday yet?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2023 3:28 am

It’s Wednesday here and we are on a cruise ship awaiting the sailout party from Trieste, which is a gracious old strongly Palladian-styled regional Italian town that ambles down the hillsides of a bay where ships have sailed in since Roman times or before. We left with sad goodbyes to our Italian Villa stay in Treviso this morning and Hairy droves like the clappers down the autostrada turning my knuckles white as he dodged in and out of its huge convoys of trucks which turned off towards Venice while we continued on to Trieste airport to drop off our car hired weeks ago in Milan. A very cheery taxi driver took us the 25 kms then into Trieste port.

Yesterday we drove over to the long beach, called a Lido, built up like a tawdry gold coast, that edges this peninsula across from which is located Venice, which also has its Lido. Norwich’s great book on Venice in the first three chapters gives a researched account of how, on this swampland where people hid from Attilla the Hun, a defensive city on driven-in wood piles eventually emerged as the great trading nation of Venice. This was where ‘banking’ originated. Treviso, as I said yesterday, was the hinterland breadbasket for the flowering of renaissance culture enabled by this trade, with Trieste also benefitting at the head of the Adriatic Sea which we are now setting off to explore (in as much as you can on a cruise).

I have fully unpacked now for the first time in three weeks of travel.
The great advantage of taking a cruise. Plus no driving.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 12, 2023 3:31 am

Thanks too Dover for your hard work in keeping this site going. Everyone who comes here knows how special it is. For travellers, It makes home seem not so far away when you can lob in and see what others are thinking and saying back in Oz. As a nation we are very small beer around here.

Point of interest: Slovenia is just over the hill from Trieste.

I had a hard job keeping Hairy in check from taking a side trip driving there too.

Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 4:09 am
Johnny Rotten
October 12, 2023 4:17 am

Thanks Tom.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 12, 2023 4:22 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 5:23 am

If it wasn’t for twitter, most of the world wouldn’t know how evil Hamas was/is.
Which is why the EU is sending him notices to remove content.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 5:48 am

Harvard Hamas (as it’s now called) and Black Lies Matter go all in supporting Hamas.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 5:59 am

JC, do you think many of the parents would care about the Harvard disgrace?
So many of those families live in bubbles & are so minted they don’t much care about the consequences.

Zatara
Zatara
October 12, 2023 6:00 am

Heard in a convo yesterday.

“Anyone who doesn’t think Iran armed and trained the Hamas Einsatzgruppen (death squads)… where do you think they got their paraglider training without being noticed? Gaza?”

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 6:04 am

I am not surprised but am still disappointed that a lot of the independent journalists I follow have all lost their minds over Israel again.

I find it bizarre they can be so well read & so well researched on a lot of topics but fall back to the cliches & tropes when it comes to Israel.

Gaza should be the Pali paradise they always wanted.
They have had autonomy for 17 years.
They can do trade deals with any country they want.
Instead, they just focus on killing Jews.

vr
vr
October 12, 2023 6:08 am

Thanks Dover

Zatara
Zatara
October 12, 2023 6:08 am

ftb

I think the parents come in two categories.

– Those who are thrilled about their chip off the old block, and hold a seat open for them on the Board of Directors.

– Those who don’t know because of that bubble you spoke of and it’s too late to do anything about it short of hiring a deprogramer by the time they find out.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2023 6:15 am

So.
Who were the blog-wreckers then?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 6:16 am

Palis & their supporters : We need to go back to the 1967 borders.

Similar to Germany saying : We need to go back to the 1939 borders.

Gilas
Gilas
October 12, 2023 6:17 am

Good morning Cats.

After expressing serious concerns last week that the NOers had no simple information leaflet to summarise the strengths of the NO case, our organizer asked Fair Australia about this and, on Sunday night, received a box of leaflets printed with 10 short reasons to vote NO, in various languages.
Short and effective, this was printed weeks ago and would have been available from day 1.
Something a properly organised campaign would have ensured.

Even then, I had to convince some of our volunteers to use this with all voters who took our paperwork.
I gave this leaflet to everyone I handed the HTV card to, emphasizing that these were just ten of the more important facts in the case for voting NO.
While what the YESsers were handing out was warm, fuzzy, feel-good BS.
“These are facts.. those are fiction/fantasy..”

Most, but not all, people the read this leaflet while in the queue.
I believe this is by far the most effective single bit of written information provided by us NOers.
Yet, there weren’t enough copies printed, we needed to “ration” giving it out.
Incredibly poor planning!

Late yesterday, an older Anglo woman approached and asked me for our 10-point reasons to vote NO leaflet, I gave it to her without a word.
Without thank-yous or smile, she quickly walked off and, after whispering to one of the YES spruikers (for volunteers, they are not!), she got in a waiting car which quickly sped off.

When I realised what just happened, I told our organizer.
He was unconcerned, believing again that this was simply another sign of the YES camp panicking at this late stage.

The difference between amateurs and professionals.

Unlike him, I smell a stinking, dirty rat, which we’ll be dealing with, as early as this morning.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 6:17 am

feelthebern
Oct 12, 2023 5:59 AM

JC, do you think many of the parents would care about the Harvard disgrace?
So many of those families live in bubbles & are so minted they don’t much care about the consequences.

No, I’m sure the “bubblers” wouldn’t care, but potential employers may, which is why Bill Ackman wants to see the names and they’re absolutely shitting themselves.

@BillAckman

I have been asked by a number of CEOs if @harvard
would release a list of the members of each of the Harvard organizations that have issued the letter assigning sole responsibility for Hamas’ heinous acts to Israel, so as to insure that none of us inadvertently hire any of their members.

If, in fact, their members support the letter they have released, the names of the signatories should be made public so their views are publicly known.

One should not be able to hide behind a corporate shield when issuing statements supporting the actions of terrorists, who, we now learn, have beheaded babies, among other inconceivably despicable acts.

Gabor
Gabor
October 12, 2023 6:18 am

feelthebern
Oct 12, 2023 6:04 AM

Gaza should be the Pali paradise they always wanted.
They have had autonomy for 17 years.
They can do trade deals with any country they want.
Instead, they just focus on killing Jews.

That is a puzzle, nobody mentions.
They can also go anywhere they like for work.
Almost like the remote settlements here, easier to live off foreign aid, ie sit down money.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 6:23 am

Black Lies Matter goes full on in support of Ham Arse.

https://twitter.com/blmgrassroots/status/1711556684190278094

I love free speech, as it a cleansing agent.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 6:23 am

we now learn, have beheaded babies, among other inconceivably despicable acts.

So many of those independent journos I mentioned have spent the last 24 hours saying there is no proof of the 40 babies being beheaded.
Then the photos of bloody nurseries & cribs are circulated on twitter showing Hamas did kill babies one way or another.
Are these independent journalists really quibbling over the exact number or was it was a beheading or knife or round from an AK47 that killed the babies ?

FFS, these guys have major mental malfunctions when it comes to Israel.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 6:30 am

Bern

I think this Ham arse support by much of Harvard is damaging to the brand name. It’s a kill shot in terms of the donation roundabout.

Ackman and lots of other rich dudes are going to watch very carefully what their old colleges are up to.

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 6:34 am

FFS, these guys have major mental malfunctions when it comes to Israel.

EU is making threats against Twitter/Musk.

Zatara
Zatara
October 12, 2023 6:40 am

JC

EU is making threats against Twitter/Musk.

Those EU politicians are making a huge gamble that they and their agenda are worth more to the average voter than Twitter. I suspect they have a shock coming to them.

bons
bons
October 12, 2023 6:55 am

I spent the afternoon at the booth. I thought the vibe was OK – not great.
One of the aboriginal girls said that we would loose the booth because “there are too many rich pricks here”.
Certainly the Yesers seemed more willing to openly thumbs up their team than the No voters who seemed almost shy.
One obvious difference was in the teams equipment. Our stuff, pergolas, tables etc was brought in by the volunterrs. Their stuff was all commercial hire. The anger at the iniquity was visceral.
I had never before really encountered urban aboriginals who, while they acknowledged their ‘mob’, wanted nothing to do with the big men or the Canberra ‘mob’. Smart folks but you had a feeling that they may be shadow dwellers despite their confident breezy personalities.
I innocently initiated a dispute when talking to a Yes volunteer. I had forgotten what sneering arrogant bitches lefty women can be. I went back to waving my placard at the passing traffic.
Three more days. I am a little concerned. Hopefully I have been standing in the sun for too long.

Vicki
Vicki
October 12, 2023 6:55 am

Had to correct a friend who had not heard about the beheading of the babies – & when told tried to comment that “this is war”. Many Lefties will try this – & have to be stopped immediately. It is NOT “war” by the accepted conventions. It is an atrocity of the greatest dimension. He retreated quickly.

bons
bons
October 12, 2023 6:56 am

Oh, and PS. About every three or four hours a ‘thank you’ Whatsap arrived from Jacinta. That woman is extraordinary.

calli
calli
October 12, 2023 6:59 am

when told tried to comment that “this is war”.

The same dismissiveness I got yesterday.

By the very people who whine that Israel’s response must be “proportionate “.

Really? Is that what they want?

132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2023 6:59 am

FFS, these guys have major mental malfunctions when it comes to Israel.

Yep
It’s like every bit of news and footage coming from hamas is pure as the driven snow and everything from Israel is exaggerated tenfold.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 7:01 am

Quite a close vote:

Scalise Wins Secret Ballot for Speaker (11 Oct)

Scalise won the nomination over House Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, on a 113-99 vote, with eight voting for other candidates and three voting present.Scalise, who was elected to the House in 2007 , was chairman of the Republican Study Committee before being selected for leadership in 2014.

That’s only the first hurdle, since he has now to be confirmed in the House…where if he doesn’t pony up for Gaetz and co he won’t win. Unless of course the Dems vote for him, which seems unlikely.

shatterzzz
October 12, 2023 7:04 am

“Our” ABC alwayz 1st with the important questions .. 1 000s dead/wounded but “Hey” let’s discuss petrol prices .. FFS!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-12/petrol-oil-prices-israel-hamas-war-100-dollars-a-barrel/102964988

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 7:05 am

Saddo-Carr has back-tracked on his Abo-Hamas equivalency. Ha Ha Ha.

132andBush
132andBush
October 12, 2023 7:06 am

By the very people who whine that Israel’s response must be “proportionate “.

Decoded = more dead Jews.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 7:07 am

And some good news!

Ad Agency Behind Bud Light Fiasco Fires Top Execs (11 Oct)

Captiv8, the California ad agency behind Bud Light’s disastrous Dylan Mulvaney marketing campaign, has fired 30 employees, about 20% of its workforce, the New York Post reports.

This is on top of the San Mateo company’s canning of 13 staffers in July upon their return via private jet from a junket to the French Riviera, at which the firm received an award for the Bud Light campaign at the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity.

So they actually won an award for the most disastrous advertising campaign in history? ROFL. Maybe they can win a corporation category Darwin Award too, to sit next to it on their trophy shelf.

shatterzzz
October 12, 2023 7:08 am

There’s a 1st time for everything .. never knew the AEC had dress code(s) for voting .. it’s annoying enuf having to stand in the queue but, apparently you, also, have to dress for the occasion …… FFS!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-12/polling-booth-clothing-confusion-voice-referendum-voting/102964108

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 12, 2023 7:09 am

Seems the moderators at News Corps must be busy or simple preventing comments going up. Have a high rate of pending comments which by time approved will be pointless.

In particular I noted very few comments showing on Jack the Insider Oz column about left and right support for Hamas.

Petros
Petros
October 12, 2023 7:11 am

So do the Hamas attacks weaken Netanyahu’s authority or strengthen it? He had a lot of people against him prior to this.

Rafiki
Rafiki
October 12, 2023 7:17 am

I had a 2 hour stint handing out NO HTV’s in Bowral (NSW). Few took our flyer or the Yes version. My guess is that many voters just don’t need help writing Yes or No, and are clear about their intention.
I had some 10 point flyers, but few wanted anything.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 7:17 am

Petros

Haaretz has toned down its polemics against Bibi and is just reporting the war somewhat.

I think that speaks volumes.

bons
bons
October 12, 2023 7:19 am

The originaln is trapped somewhere – sorry.
I spent the afternoon at the booth. I thought the vibe was OK – not great.
One of the aboriginal girls said that we would loose the booth because “there are too many rich pricks here”.
Certainly the Yesers seemed more willing to openly thumbs up their team than the No voters who seemed almost shy.
One obvious difference was in the teams equipment. Our stuff, pergolas, tables etc was brought in by the volunterrs. Their stuff was all commercial hire. The anger at the iniquity was visceral.
I had never before really encountered urban aboriginals who, while they acknowledged their ‘mob’, wanted nothing to do with the big men or the Canberra ‘mob’. Smart folks but you had a feeling that they may be shadow dwellers despite their confident breezy personalities.
I innocently initiated a dispute when talking to a Yes volunteer. I had forgotten what sneering arrogant bitches lefty women can be. I went back to waving my placard at the passing traffic.
Three more days. I am a little concerned. Hopefully I have been standing in the sun for too long.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 7:21 am

Tom Slater, the editor of Spiked, has an excellent video explaining the unhinged hatred toward Israel and Jews that has been exposed worldwide since the massacre.
Well worth the seven minutes if you have time.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 12, 2023 7:26 am

There’s a 1st time for everything .. never knew the AEC had dress code(s) for voting .. it’s

At every booth I’ve worked at, across 3 seats in 2 states, the campaign volunteers turned the t-shirts inside out when they come in to vote.while it was still blindingly obvious which party they were supporting, it was enough to comply with the rules.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 7:30 am

So do the Hamas attacks weaken Netanyahu’s authority or strengthen it?

They’ve now agreed on a war government, but it is only the current government plus Gantz. I think that means the Left have declined to join.

Netanyahu, Gantz, reach agreement on emergency unity government (11 Oct)

Johnny Rotten
October 12, 2023 7:39 am

Israel & Hamas & World War III

“Hamas’s attack was deliberately orchestrated to create an open war. I say that because of the taking of hostages, knowing that this will simply escalate the crisis. The ongoing hostage situation presents a unique crisis, for included within those hostages are also Americans. Taking about 150 living hostages presents a crisis that can engulf the entire region. This is not simply a retaliation against Hamas. They have said for every attack, they will kill one hostage.

The question also brings into play Hezbollah. Will they open up a northern front to the war? If Israeli troops enter Gaza, Hezbollah’s response to a massive Israeli ground operation would most likely pull them in as well. Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said: “No power, no food, no gas.” “We are fighting human animals, and we act accordingly.” Defense officials have ordered a “complete siege” of Gaza in response to this attack, which was the deadliest day in Israeli history.

Israel has bombarded the densely populated enclave in retaliation, killing at least 920 people. On Tuesday, the Israel Defense Forces announced that the border with Gaza was secured and that it was preparing for an offensive.

There is no doubt that this was planned. Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad visited China for the first time in nearly 20 years. Beijing seeks to deepen its influence in the Middle East. Interestingly, according to Chinese media, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his wife left their three children in China when they returned to Syria after attending the Asian Games in Hangzhou, China. In addition, Egyptian intelligence officials said that Jerusalem had ignored repeated warnings that the Gaza-based terror group was planning “something big.” They claim to have directly warned the prime minister. Egypt has often served as a mediator between Israel and Hamas. This only further validates that this was allowed to occur just like 9/11.

The Neocons seek to use the Middle East as a second front against Russia. They are really in control of the White House. The standard position of the United States has emphasized the importance of Israeli security. Looking at Biden’s prepared statement drafted by the Neocons, there was no mention of restraint whatsoever. With Americans included in the hostages, the Neocons are celebrating as usual. I’m sure Blinken and Victoria Nuland were popping the champagne. A plane carrying U.S. weapons landed in Israel ahead of a visit by Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who is eager to get World War III going.

The Biden Administration will be dragged in since the Neocons are in full control. Most politicians want to blindly support Israel, while a small minority want them to impose accountability and costs. The Neocons want no accountability whatsoever. My sources confirm that the weapons used by Hamas were mostly American, which came from what Biden left behind in Afghanistan.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/israel/israel-hamas-world-war-iii/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 7:39 am

I note the Cat was down last night, I wanted to blog about the rally for Israel in Dover Heights but alas I could not.

The last few days have been particularly harrowing and emotional for me but NOTHING compared to what my fellow Jews experienced and are experiencing in Eretz Israel. Think of those IDF soldiers finding the bodies of decapitated babies in Kibbutzim. Attending the rally has made me feel a little better, it’s always good to be with my fellow Jews, to pray and to sing. The rally was held at the huge reserve on the cliff at Dover Heights, I arrived with friends, and we were among hundreds of people streaming up the hill to the reserve. We had been told to wear blue and white, the colours of the Israeli flag, which is funny, because yesterday morning I had no idea about the rally (I didn’t find out mid afternoon), and yet yesterday morning I just happen to dress in the colours of the Israeli flag, a pale blue Saba skirt, a white top and a pale blue Sportscraft cardigan (just as well I had my cardi, it was bloody freezing on the cliff). I must have had a premonition! There was massive police around the event, and lots of media, but I didn’t care, I just wanted to be with my fellow Jews.

At the rally were children, young people, teenagers, babies, mothers and fathers, old people, all proud Jews, all proud Australians, all proud Zionists. People waved the Israeli and Australians flags. Oh and many brought their dogs, quite a few dogs were in attendance, proud Zionist dogs, I love Zionist dogs! And when we stood for one minute’s silence to honour the dead, our Zionist dogs stood silent too. I tried streaming it for my sister. Young Yeshiva boys and girls went around handing out shabbat candles to women, and the Yeshiva boys helped Jewish men put on tefillin, including one of my friends who hadn’t put tefillin on in decades (tefillin are small black leather boxes with leather straps containing scrolls of parchment inscribed with verses from the Torah).

We came to the rally to honour our butchered, our murdered, and yet the rally organisers, the NSW Jewish Board of Deputies, opened with a “welcome to country”. Many groaned.

Various politicians gave speeches. Sleazy was not in attendance however he sent Mark Butler who was, whadda you expect……ho hum. Chris Minns, who I think is a reasonably decent man, spoke well but it was Peter Dutton who spoke the best, he fills me with confidence, unlike the sleazy member for Grayndler.

Australian Jews are angry, very angry, for what happened in Israel (and is still happening) and for what happened here in Sydney on Monday night, when Jew hatred spilled onto our streets. I will never forgive being told by NSW Police that I, a Jew, should stay away from Sydney’s CBD streets because I would not be safe. Worse, it is apparent from eyewitnesses I have spoken to, who witnessed it, that the NSW police personally escorted Hamas supporters all the way down to the Opera House, to burn the Israeli flag, and to scream “gas the Jews”. After what happened on the Opera House steps a few nights go, I now think that the Opera House is tainted, I don’t think that stench can ever be fumigated away.

As I stood with friends on the grass, on one side was an older man, about 70, and when he spoke I could hear he was Israeli. He was one tough Jew, he didn’t smile much. Whilst the politicians were speaking their platitudes (their sole talent), this tough old Jew kept on shaking his head and mumbling…”no words, just action, action”. That tough Jew is right, the time for words is over. Words are easy, it’s time for action.

And here is a critical difference between how Jews and Christians think compared to Muslims. The rabbis who spoke last night did not speak of elation at our enemies dying, no, no, no, we don’t do that. Instead we prayed for our dead, we prayed for the traumatised, we prayed for the grief stricken, we prayed for Israel, we prayed for the diaspora. The Torah is very clear that we should not revel in our enemy’s misery. So, unlike at Lakemba with their “religious leader” (cough), no rabbi spoke of elation.

Sydney is now a city of two rallies, on Monday night there was a of REAL Nazi barbarism, where shouts, screams and screeches to “gas the Jews” were heard on our harbour shores, the other, last night, was a rally of humanity, of unity, and of fundamental decency. There is zero moral equivalence.

I am a proud Jew, a proud Australian, a proud Zionist.

Am Yisrael Chai.

On a lighter note, I arrived in a car with friends, and there was a gridlock in the streets of Dover Heights. It was like scene from a Seinfeld episode. I told my friend to park on the lawn of a house. He said “are you kidding”? I said to him “no, I’m not, don’t worry, you won’t get booked, and if you do, we’ll know the parking cops are anti-Semites, who’ve come up here to target Jews, and we’ll plead this in court that the cops are anti-Semites, and there’s a lot of that around at the moment”! We all laughed. I then watched a young man try and direct the traffic

You see, at the end of the day, we Jews laugh. I don’t think there was much laughter at the Nazi Pallie protest on Monday night where they screeched hatred on our streets whereas at our rallies we have Zionist dogs and laughter.

Pogria
Pogria
October 12, 2023 7:46 am

Brava Cassie.
I was hoping you would post soon about last night. Zionist dogs, awesome. 😀

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 7:49 am

Cassie – Here’s Sky’s piece on the Dover Heights rally. I haven’t checked for stories elsewhere so I don’t know what the MSM is reporting.

‘We’re in mourning’: Thousands attend vigil for Israel held in Sydney’s eastern suburbs as Hamas’ brutal incursion continues (11 Oct)

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 7:54 am

Shih Tzus or Greyhounds?

Inquiring’ minds wanna know if they were Capitalist Fatcat Dogs or Imperialist Running Dogs.

bons
bons
October 12, 2023 7:55 am

The Left are stupid.
We know that, but it is impossible to believe that the Obama left in Israel are playing politics at this time. Surely they are damaging themselves hugely.
Similarly, in Australia, even the doctors wives must be staring into their gourmet peach and strawberry grenola wondering if associating with the Greens is still something they want people to know about.
Even for the Greens, supporting the perpetrators of the impossible nightmare in Gaza is incomprehensible. A death wish, I hope.

shatterzzz
October 12, 2023 7:59 am

Saddo-Carr has back-tracked on his Abo-Hamas equivalency. Ha Ha Ha.

Alwayz amuses me that these, “I’m a celebrity so important” folk think that delete/backtrack means people forgive/forget .. once it’s on the “net” it’s there forever ..
someone, somewhere has saved it for future use ..!

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 8:03 am

This only further validates that this was allowed to occur just like 9/11.

Here we go, Martin is in the petrol sniffing early today. Cut down Martin! Try some crack cocaine or something else.

The Neocons seek to use the Middle East as a second front against Russia.

Oh Jesus no sane person wants nuclear powers duking it out.

Looking at Biden’s prepared statement drafted by the Neocons, there was no mention of restraint whatsoever.

So George W Bush runs the White House? This is lunatic fringe territory. Ordering Israel to “show restraint” would be neocon meddling – like Putin has so I sincerely asked for.

If Syria, Lebanon & Iran screw up enough, this threatens his Mediterranean port.

Maybe he should shut up and get his house in order.

Israel, while a small minority want them to impose accountability and costs.

Hamas are learning about accountability right now.

My sources confirm that the weapons used by Hamas were mostly American, which came from what Biden left behind in Afghanistan.

You took the bait to embarrass critics of the Biden regime, dummy. Show me the M-4 carbines used by Hamas.

This is a lie. You have no discernment and Martin Armstrong has no sources. Always predicting the next big thing after everyone has already watched it in 4K.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 8:03 am

Listening to Baris.
His polling with RFK Jr has him a 9%.
On the face of it, he drags more DNC voters away than he does GOP.
But when you drill down into the numbers in places like Michigan & Wisconsin, he drags away more GOP voters than he does DNC.
And the GOP needs those votes in Michigan & Wisconsin more than ever.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 8:04 am

so INsincerely

Damn you autocorrect, may you live in interesting times Tim Cook, etc.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 12, 2023 8:05 am

Can’t help thinking about the poor hostages. Seeing as the shocking events were planned I’m guessing they are held in spider holes. Maybe locally but I bet they have been taken out of the region …possibly Iran and other friendly territories. Their living nightmare may go on for weeks, years. Just too awful to think about…but others have thought about it, planned it and executed it. If IDF do not find the evil perpetrators, I can only wish arse cancer on the lot of them.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 12, 2023 8:05 am

This only further validates that this was allowed to occur just like 9/11.

The Germany First strategy is proof Churchill talked Roosevelt
into letting Pearl Harbour happen!!!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2023 8:07 am

Oh my.

For a while there yesterday I thought the Great Prediction* may have actually eventuated.

*Results may vary.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
October 12, 2023 8:10 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 12, 2023 7:39 AM
I note the Cat was down last night, I wanted to blog about the rally for Israel in Dover Heights but alas I could not.

I am an infrequent poster here but just wanted to emphasise my unyielding support for, first, you Cassie, all people of Jewish heritage, the brave country of Israel, and all right minded people that support you.

Please be aware that there must be manny like me that support you and your people, but we are mostly invisible.

Yours in friendship and solidarity.

Peter

Gabor
Gabor
October 12, 2023 8:11 am

Dot
Oct 12, 2023 7:17 AM

Petros

Haaretz has toned down its polemics against Bibi and is just reporting the war somewhat.

You think so?

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 8:12 am

“bons
Oct 12, 2023 7:55 AM”

The problem is that yes, the left are stupid (although there’s a lot of malice among the left), but we now reside in a decrepit moral landscape where the left get a free pass for their perpetual adolescent stupidity. Yet such free passes are never accorded to those on the right, for any moral lapse. So, someone like Pauline Hanson is still smeared for comments she made about Asians almost thirty years ago, we have situations where left-wing progressive scum activists trawl through social media looking for gotcha stuff to smear anyone on the right, yet Greens politicians can attend a Nazi Pallie Jew hating bonfire party on Monday night in Sydney’s CBD and they’ll be given a free pass….”nothing to see here”. There is always zero accountability for what they do…………ZERO. Pauline Hanson is persona non grata on all mainstream media, yet Hideous Thorpe is given a platform at the National Press Club, she’s often on their ABC ( on Insiders) and so on.

Oh and further to their ABC, a moral wilderness, until the Liberals and Nationals are serious about tackling the far-left bias at the broadcaster, they won’t get my vote. The ABC should be made subscription only, and then we’ll see how long it survives (not long I suspect).

Oh and here’s some actions….

Firstly, the Green slime should be deregistered.

Secondly, the ACT Clown Council should be abolished (and Calvary Hospital should be handed back to its rightful owner).

As the tough Jew standing next to me said last night……………..

“”no words, WE NEED ACTION, ACTION, ACTION”.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 8:13 am

Yes I do think so. They were absolutely rabid a few months ago. It doesn’t matter how much fellatio they are giving to Joe Potato.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 8:13 am

Can I just say to Dover, thank you for this blog.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 12, 2023 8:14 am

I am in Alice Springs. Again.

Around town at least, the mood is overwhelmingly No.

There was, however, a bunch of five or six Yessers holding placards in the Todd Mall (this was just before 3.00 p.m., when the bottle shops open – can’t imagine they would have been there much longer after that). They weren’t doing anything, just standing there in the shade.

Every one of them was 60+ and pale as the winter sun.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 8:19 am
Razey
Razey
October 12, 2023 8:19 am

The terrorists calling for a world jihad this friday.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 8:21 am

Go back and read the anti Bibi articles at Haaretz from June or July.

He was made out to be an anti democratic usurper because he wanted to legally challenge the bench and an independent prosecutor who had gone rogue and who was absolutely partisan.

Those articles were utterly unhinged. The current articles are merely (very) biased.

Razey
Razey
October 12, 2023 8:22 am

Martin Armstrong has no sources

But he has a DOS powered super computer from 1988.

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 8:22 am

Who downvotes “friendship” and “ta for the blog” – you sad fuggers, get some friends IRL.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 8:25 am

This is on top of the San Mateo company’s canning of 13 staffers in July upon their return via private jet from a junket to the French Riviera, at which the firm received an award for the Bud Light campaign at the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity.

So they actually won an award for the most disastrous advertising campaign in history? ROFL. Maybe they can win a corporation category Darwin Award too, to sit next to it on their trophy shelf.

Europeans never miss an opportunity to do the wrong thing, to show the world their degeneracy. There’s a reason Americans used to refer to them as eurotrash though that appellation has suddenly died out, methinks due to the fact that American elites now agree with them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 8:25 am

Vicki
Oct 12, 2023 6:55 AM
Had to correct a friend who had not heard about the beheading of the babies – & when told tried to comment that “this is war”. Many Lefties will try this – & have to be stopped immediately. It is NOT “war” by the accepted conventions. It is an atrocity of the greatest dimension. He retreated quickly.

I suspect that the same person would come down on Israel like the proverbial ton of bricks at the first Pallywood propaganda about a dead Palestinian baby, or a Red Crescente worker allegedly killed.

calli
calli
October 12, 2023 8:28 am

Mad people, Dot. Inarticulate cowards, much like the ones roaming the streets on Monday night.

Their purpose is to demoralise. It is not “free speech”, any more than flicking snot at people is “free speech”.

It isn’t “speech” at all.

Gabor
Gabor
October 12, 2023 8:28 am

Dot
Oct 12, 2023 8:13 AM

Yes I do think so. They were absolutely rabid a few months ago. It doesn’t matter how much fellatio they are giving to Joe Potato.
1

Just for the record, it wasn’t me who downticked your comment.
I need a better reason than simply react negatively.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 12, 2023 8:31 am

A moderate Muslim fesses up. Whatever that means. Daily Telegraph:

A man has been charged with stalking and intimidating a group of teenagers after they unveiled an Israeli flag from their car in Sydney’s eastern suburbs.

Disturbing footage emerged of the man confronting four teenagers and threatening to kill them for having an Israeli flag displayed on their car on Monday.

The 23-year-old handed himself into police at Liverpool Station on Thursday, where he was charged with stalk/intimidate intend fear physical harm.

He was refused bail to appear at Downing Centre Local Court via audio visual link on Thursday.

The man, who appears to be of Middle-Eastern descent, can be seen approaching the group of teenagers in one of Sydney’s most affluent suburbs, Bellevue Hill.

“Put that back in your car,” the man yells.

“I swear if I f***ing see youse with that flag I’ll f**king kill youse all.

“I’m telling youse right now — all of youse.”

NSW Police confirmed the incident occurred on Monday just before 6:30pm.

“On Monday, officers attached to Eastern Suburbs Police Area Command received a report, four teenagers had been verbally threatened by a man on Bellevue Road, Bellevue Hill about 6.30pm,” the statement read.

The man has a solid build, facial hair and is wearing a yellow high-vis vest with a black hat.

It comes after hundreds of pro-Palestinian supporters converged on the Opera House’s forecourt after its sails were lit up blue and white in solidarity with Israel on Monday night.

The crowd were waving Palestinian flags while an Israeli flag was ripped up and stomped on.

On Sunday, People in their hundreds flocked to Lakemba Station just a day after at least 700 people were killed in Israel.

A car in the neighbouring suburb of Greenacre was also spotted shooting fireworks while Palestinian flags flew from the windows.

This is the thing that shits me about calls of ‘Islamophobia’. There was none after 9/11. None after Bali 2002. None after Madrid 2004. None after London in 2005. None after Mumbai 2008. None after Paris 2015, Brussels 2016, Ariana Grande concert in Manchester.
All there was was a head tilt from our fawning media and vows we ‘must do better’ to understand the plight of those adherents of the Allen’s Snackbar.
This Islamic tummy rub in Australia has led to the shit we see now in Sydney. They are emboldened to do this because of a supine attitude to law enforcement by those charged with the protection of the community.
Has the NSW Commish been sacked yet?

Rabz
October 12, 2023 8:32 am

Another pro-hamarse rally was being planned for Sydneystan on Sunday however authorities have indicated the event is unlikely to go ahead as the required legal paperwork for the event had not been submitted in time.

Talk about wishful thinking. The hate march will go ahead and the stinking useless corrupt cowardly lazy stupid keystones won’t do anything to stop it.

I hope I’m wrong and horses, dogs and the water cannon are deployed (those filthy moozley and hippy greenfilth animals could do with a wash). At the very least, I want to see to a similar response to the disgraceful fascist idiocy dished out to the anti-schlockdown protesters.

The ball is in your court, minns, you evil collectivist piece of shit.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:35 am

Moral clarity on Middle East needs to transcend base politics

For years, Labor has been walking on eggshells when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Phillip Coorey
Political editor

It was only two months ago that Labor’s longstanding internal tensions over the Arab-Israeli conflict were on display.

In the lead-up to the party’s triennial national conference, the Victorian division passed a motion that “calls on the Albanese Labor government to recognise the Palestinian state within the term of this parliament, joining with 138 countries, and the Vatican, which have already done so”.

The move concerned the Jewish community, which feared a similar motion, backed by Labor’s significant pro-Palestinian element that includes members of both the Left and Right factions, would be passed at the national conference in August.

Foreign Minister Penny Wong, whose policy is the increasingly empty slogan of a two-state solution, defused the situation by cutting a deal under which Labor instead would describe Israeli settlements as “illegal” under international law and recognise the West Bank and Gaza as “Occupied Palestinian territories”.

For years, Labor has been walking on eggshells when it comes to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

The Left has long been sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, but they were also joined more recently by the NSW Right, led by the likes of Bob Carr and Chris Bowen, in response to a large and growing Arab community in Labor’s western Sydney heartland.

It was during Julia Gillard’s tenure that the emphasis shifted from Israel to Palestine.

During a heated cabinet meeting in November 2012, Gillard was rolled when she wanted Australia to join the United States, Israel, Canada and a handful of smaller nations in voting against a United Nations General Assembly resolution giving Palestine observer status at the UN.

Instead, Carr, Bowen, Tony Burke and others, with the backing of Bob Hawke and Gareth Evans, forced her to back down.

Only two ministers backed Gillard.

All week the language has varied

It was a seminal moment for the ALP that not only underpinned the difficulty in the lead-up to the national conference, but the difficulty Wong, Albanese and others have had this week in responding publicly to the atrocities perpetrated in Israel.

While the Coalition sided wholeheartedly with Israel, and the Greens with the Palestinians, Labor has had a foot in both camps.

Wong began by urging both sides to exercise restraint – which, given the terrible consequences of an escalation of the conflict, was eminently defensible, even if it echoed statements made by the likes of Saudi Arabia.

By Wednesday, Wong had hardened her line, telling the Israeli Chamber of Commerce that the atrocities committed by Hamas were acts of terrorism.

All week, the language from Wong’s colleagues has varied. Bowen, who holds a pro-Arab western Sydney electorate, struggled to find his voice.

By Wednesday, Bowen also called it terrorism, a day after the strongest and clearest condemnation came from Victorians Bill Shorten and Richard Marles.

Similarly, Albanese, who has yet to ring his Israeli counterpart Benjamin Netanyahu, took time to harden his language.

One internal critic shocked by the flatfooted response said the leadership had been blinded by the base politics of the juggling act rather than grasping the moral clarity the situation required.

Joe Biden found the sweet spot by portraying Hamas as the enemy of the Palestinians. “Hamas does not stand for the Palestinian people’s right to dignity and self-determination,” he said.

It was a statement not dissimilar to that made on Monday by the leaders of the US, UK, France, Germany and Italy. “All of us recognise the legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people,” he said. “But make no mistake: Hamas does not represent those aspirations, and it offers nothing for the Palestinian people other than more terror and bloodshed.”

Gabor
Gabor
October 12, 2023 8:36 am

Black Ball
Oct 12, 2023 8:31 AM

This is the thing that shits me about calls of ‘Islamophobia’. There was none after 9/11. None after Bali 2002. None after Madrid 2004. None after London in 2005. None after Mumbai 2008. None after Paris 2015, Brussels 2016, Ariana Grande concert in Manchester.

Remember them dancing in the street after 9/11?
How soon we forget and or forgive.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 8:37 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 12, 2023 8:13 AM
Can I just say to Dover, thank you for this blog.

9 2

OK, which TWO stupid fundamental orifices gave thumbs down to a simple expression of gratitude to Dover?

calli
calli
October 12, 2023 8:39 am

The man, who appears to be of Middle-Eastern descent, can be seen approaching the group of teenagers in one of Sydney’s most affluent suburbs, Bellevue Hill.

What the hell does the “affluence” of Bellevue Hill have to do with a fat, roided up bully confronting and threatening a group of kids with an Israeli flag? Is the @rseclown reporter suggesting the kids could easily afford security to go about in their suburban street?

He picked his target – kids.

Had it been a group of big, fit, tough Jewish men he would have thought twice. I’m glad the thing was refused bail.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 8:41 am

He retreated quickly.

Mmm…but he’d just revealed his true self to you.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:41 am

McCarthy’s Foot Soldier – Next in Line Steve Scalise Wins House GOP Vote for Speaker

October 11, 2023 – Sundance

Republicans hate their base voters. If the broader Republican electorate knew the internecine nature of how the Republican politicians in DC operate, they would never vote for another Republican ever.

It’s all a system of conniving and positioning for a cushy committee assignment, indulgences from the lobbyist control apparatus, office locations and Machiavellian influence for the best junkets and largest leadership PAC deposits.

That’s the truth, the non-pretending truth about the system at work behind the GOPe blind vote. It has nothing to do with principle centered leadership, and everything to do with self-indulgences and person affluence.

Steve Scalise is worse than Kevin McCarthy when it comes to supporting Democrats, way worse.

Representative Steve Scalise (U-DC) will use sell your house via civil forfeiture and send that money to Zelenskyy (while deducting his indulgence fees of course).

Republicans held a secret closed-door ballot Wednesday morning after days of drama and infighting. Scalise, who is battling blood cancer, beat out House Judiciary Chairman and Trump ally Jim Jordan in a 113-99 vote.

But it is still a steep path ahead for Scalise to make the promotion official – he must get at least 217 votes on the House floor. It is not clear when a vote will be scheduled, but it could occur as soon as this afternoon. (read more)

Via Politico – […] Some Scalise allies are encouraging the Louisiana Republican to move to a floor vote quickly anyway, hoping to establish momentum after Wednesday’s internal vote. The rising national focus on national security matters such as the Israeli terrorist attack, these allies argue, will help convince GOP lawmakers to coalesce behind Scalise as the winner.

“I believe we’ll have a Speaker Scalise in office by dinnertime tonight,” said Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Texas), an early Scalise backer. “I’m confident we’ll all be on the same page when we get to the floor.” (source)

A pox on all their Houses.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 12, 2023 8:41 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 8:44 am

I am not surprised but am still disappointed that a lot of the independent journalists I follow have all lost their minds over Israel again.

All journalists in Australia and America since the 1970s have been compelled to attend a university journalism school to get their meal ticket, replacing the old system of on-the-job cadetships.

Cadetships meant cadet journalists were not only learning their craft on the job, but learning how the real world works via its institutions — courts, councils, cops, etc.

That has been replaced by university indoctrination, which includes indoctrination in all the fashionable university causes like anti-semitism.

Jew hatred is being implanted into journalists as part of their university training.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 8:47 am

“Had it been a group of big, fit, tough Jewish men he would have thought twice. I’m glad the thing was refused bail.”

Nicely said calli.

By the way…

1. Please note the continuing silence of Burke and Bowen. Not just clowns, both moral cowards, but we all knew this.

2. Please note the continuing silence of our resident pervert apologist. Not just a clown, a moral coward, but we all knew this. He’s hiding in plain site, just like there are still Hamas terrorists hiding in southern Israel.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 12, 2023 8:47 am

Speaking of the po-po:

More than 1,000 NSW Police officers will be deployed to deal with an unauthorised pro-Palestinian rally on Sunday, as police deal with the embarrassing fallout from allowing a similar protest at the Opera House to be taken over by masked thugs burning Israeli flags, lighting flares and chanting “f–k the Jews.”

The massive police deployment this weekend for the upcoming rally comes as Premier Chris Minns warns that anyone who incites violence or hatred on Sunday will be “dealt with by Police”.

The Daily Telegraph can also reveal NSW Police are in talks with legal experts about what legislation they can use to diffuse protesters using hateful or racially abusive language on Sunday, if radical “fringe” protesters defy calls to stay away.

Legal experts? Aren’t they breaking the law by attending an unauthorised ‘protest’? Aren’t there laws on the books surrounding hate speech?
Minns brings the wet lettuce forth:

It’s understood more than 1,000 police will be deployed in an attempt to diffuse the expected rally as part of Operation Shelter.

Organisers have vowed to press ahead with the protest despite police rejecting the group’s application to hold the event.

Mr Minns urged anyone planning to gather at the pro-Palestinian rally to stay home.

“My message is don’t attend the rally on Sunday,” he told The Daily Telegraph.

“No one should celebrate war. No one should celebrate the death of innocent civilians,” he said.

“If protesters march, incite violence or hatred in a public place, they will be dealt with by police.”

Publicly threatening or inciting violence on the basis of race or religion is an offence with a maximum penalty of a $220,000 fine, three years imprisonment, or both.

No need for legal experts FFS.

However, government sources yesterday suggested it could be difficult to lay a hate speech charge against someone in a live protest environment.

Currently, police need to refer a brief of evidence to the Director of Public Prosecution before they can be charged with hate speech.

“What we will be looking at is if we can use other means to get protesters who cross the line with hateful language by charging them with incitement or intimidation and then later upgrade the charges,” police sources said.

Another senior police officer said that every effort is being made to stop any planned march before it occurs.

“The real problem is the fringe element which will have to be targeted before Sunday. We think it may be called off, then the problem will be the lunatic element trying to organise a spontaneous protests via social media,’’ they said.

“If they cross the line, we will find a way to detain them.” senior police source said.

They aren’t there for beer and skittles. They are there supporting the mass slaughter of Jews.

NSW Opposition Leader Mark Speakman called for officers to arrest protesters who break the law at the unauthorised protest.

“The law is there to be enforced,” he said.

“Hate speech and inciting violence have no place in NSW, and if there are people doing that the police should enforce the law.”

His comments were echoed by Opposition Police spokesman Paul Toole who called for anyone engaging in hate speech or inciting violence to be “charged and arrested”.

Mr Speakman yesterday called on Police Minster Yasmin Catley to be sacked over her handling of Monday’s protest at which an Israeli flag was burned, flares were thrown, and protesters yelled anti-Semitic chants including “f–k the Jews”.

Gas the Jews as well? But be comforted by the Police Minister:

Ms Catley eventually offered a qualified apology over the events of Monday night, telling parliament: “I apologise for anyone if they feel unsafe,” she said.

She said the government “shares the regret” that the Jewish community was not able to gather at the Opera House on Monday.

Comfortable yet? Maybe not:

However, she said that she had no power to stop the pro-Palestinian protest which led to the violent scenes.

“Decision making around public gatherings and demonstrations should be left to the New South Wales Police Force who have extensive experience in mass gatherings and public safety,” she said.

Almost a call for police to stand down eh Minister? Someone has more conviction in their actions:

Palestine Action Group Sydney organiser Josh Lees said Sunday’s protest at Town Hall will be going ahead.

“We will be there to peacefully protest – we won’t be clashing with the police and we hope they won’t clash with us,” he said.

Don’t worry Mr Lee’s. They won’t.

“The protesters who lit flares (on Sunday) were not part of the protest – they arrived later in the night and were not part of the group, but of course people were angry – thousands of Palestinians have been killed.”

I think a hearty FMD is in order.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:48 am

Air Canada grounds pilot who posted sick messages in response to Hamas’ brutal invasion of Israel including one in support of pro-Palestine rally saying: ‘Israel, burn in hell’

Air Canada acted, grounding a pilot, when his anti-Israel social media posts were made apparent

First Officer Mostafa Ezzo, who is based out of Montreal, even posted a photo showing him in his uniform with a Palestinian flag. Ezzo piloted a B787 aircraft.

‘We are aware of the unacceptable posts made by an Air Canada pilot. We are taking this matter very seriously, and he was taken out of service on Mon, Oct. 9. We firmly denounce violence in all forms,’ Air Canada wrote in a post on X.

In a recent post, Ezzo promoted a pro-Palestinian demonstration in Montreal which took place on Sunday, the day after Hamas’s brutal assault on Israeli citizens began. ‘F*** you Israel, burn in hell,’ he added to the post.

In other posts that have spread online, Ezzo referred to the Jewish state as a ‘terorist [sic] state’ as well as posting a photo showing him with a sign reading: ‘Israel, Hitler is proud of you.’

An Air Canada spokesperson told the Toronto Sun that the airline took the action ‘because this individual’s opinions and publications on social media do not represent Air Canada’s views in any way.’

‘This person has never been authorized to speak publicly while identifying themselves as an Air Canada employee,’ he added.

The Sun adds in its report that Jewish passengers had complained to Air Canada, saying that they would feel uncomfortable about flying with a pilot who was openly hostile to them.

‘ALPA Canada, including the Air Canada pilot group, is aware of the situation and is incredibly saddened by the tragedies in the Middle East. We condemn all violence and hatred, and any promotion thereof. It is our firm expectation that all of our members abide by this principle and our professional code of ethics,’ Airline Pilots Association Canada said in a statement regarding Ezzo.

Ezzo is an Egyptian Canadian who attended flight school at the Egypt Aviation Academy where his roommate and best friend was fellow student, Mohamed Mamdouh.

Mamdouh was the co-pilot on EgyptAir flight 804 that plunged into the Mediterranean Sea killing all on board in May 2016.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 8:49 am

Oversight Committee
@GOPoversight
? BREAKING ?

We have discovered new information about the number of White House employees involved in President Biden’s mishandling of classified documents.

President Biden’s attorney stated that the discovery of classified documents at Penn Biden Center occurred on November 2, 2022.

Our Committee has developed evidence showing the timeline of relevant events began in 2021 and involved at least five White House employees.

https://x.com/GOPoversight/status/1712199807014453255?s=20

So Biden gave back the personal documents immediately ?
Another load of hogshit.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 8:50 am

“Josh Lees”

Ah yes, that’s a common name in Gaza and Ramallah….NOT.

Another useful and very dangerous idiot.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 8:51 am

Coorey was going reasonably well until those last two paras.

At least he shows signs of being revolted by the Palis’ behaviour, as well as being critical of Labor’s hypocrisy, so that’s an improvement.

Rabz
October 12, 2023 8:51 am

This moozley tummy rub in Australia has led to the shit we see now in Sydneystan

BB – the politicians and cops in NSW have been “accommodating” those stinking pieces of insoluble human garbage for decades. A potted history below:

The Iraq war (I personally witnessed a massive demo down Broadway of mouth frothing moozley loons from the ‘safety’ of Sydneystan bus) 2003
Cronulla 2005
Various other moozley mini-insurrections in Sydney including an infamous one in Hyde Park where a moozley toddler was spotted in a “Kill the Jews” sandwich board – see Tim Blair 2014
Various other ridiculous demos including the black lies matter rally during the schlockdowns (2021 which was heavily populated by moozley and greenfilth loons)

And now this latest disgrace on Monday night. The hatred and contempt I feel for those responsible for these ongoing disgraces cannot be expressed in mere words.

Your (very) average braindead collectivist: “Veneztraliastan is da most successful multicu*tural society in da world”.

This is an utterly obscene lie. This country is nothing of the sort. We’re now populated by little more than a bunch of increasingly suspicious endlessly squabbling tribes, with politicians and the braindead lamestream meeja (I’m especially looking at you – ALPBC) endlessly stoking ever more toxic division.

A wholly unsatisfactory situation that will only become worse (to put it mildly).

Dot
Dot
October 12, 2023 8:53 am

Gabor

I upticked your comment. I had to explain what I meant – discussion is good!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:54 am

The New York Post reports on Air Canada’s response:

Ezzo remains on Air Canada’s staff, though he’s been “grounded” and placed on a no-fly list that doesn’t allow him to travel on the airline as a pilot or a passenger, according to the Toronto Sun.

“We are aware of the unacceptable posts made by an Air Canada pilot. We are taking this matter very seriously, and he was taken out of service on Mon, Oct. 9. We firmly denounce violence in all forms,” the airline tweeted on Tuesday.

Sources told the Sun that after seeing Ezzo’s posts, Air Canada received multiple complaints from Jewish passengers saying they would not feel comfortable boarding a flight with someone who may hold extremely hateful views toward them.

We are aware of the unacceptable posts made by an Air Canada pilot. We are taking this matter very seriously, and he was taken out of service on Mon, Oct. 9. We firmly denounce violence in all forms.

— Air Canada (@AirCanada) October 10, 2023

TGP readers will remember that Air Canada blocked access to The Gateway Pundit listing it as “hate speech.”

Yet Ezzo has only been suspended, not terminated, for actual hate speech.

From the Comments

– As a retired captain for a major U.S. airline, I cannot imagine flying with a first officer who is so full of hatred for certain passenger ethnicities that I would feel uncomfortable for the safety of the flight. This young man should be fired from Air Canada and Transport Canada’s Civil Aviation Directorate should revoke his license.

– As a retired FO and CA, I support your position. I was an FFDO and was always worried when some Middle Eastern FO was in my rotation. I’d do my best to swap, drop, or pickup.

– He should be unemployable.

And for the cowards at Harvard who hid behind the names of their student groups instead of owning their hate, they should also be unemployable. Boycott ALL Harvard grads until names are released.

– Anyone who isn’t concerned getting on a plane with this person needs to have their heads examined. I hope that TCCA grounds him permanently. There is no room for this kind of hate from a person helming a machine that has been proven to be a deadly weapon

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 8:54 am

Might I suggest a propaganda/psychological campaign that Israel could run while preparing to sirt gaza out?

Erect loudspeakers along the Gaza border, and play at full volume three tunes: The March of the Toreadors from Carmen (AKA Stand Up and Fight from Carmen Jones), The Ride of the Valkyries (the Apocalypse Now version, with helicopter and rocked=t noises) and finally the Triumphal March from Aida. Rinse and repeat until ready to march.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 12, 2023 8:55 am
hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 12, 2023 8:56 am

The blog was down last evening when we saw some Dover Heights footage on TV – I could just tell you were there Cassie. I feel sick with horror at the weekend events in Israel. One minute I feel so angry I think that the IDF should just write off the hostages and crush Gaza to dust, the next minute I feel ashamed of myself and sorry for everyone. Such a mess.
Similarly about the Voice vote. Up and down in my optimism that No prevails. Does anyone know if we will get booth by booth results?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 8:58 am

rocket noises, FFS.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 8:58 am

Adding to already-existing tensions, IDF (Israel Defense Forces) called Hamas a “genocidal terrorist organization” Tuesday on X — and Elon Musk weighed in.

In a viral post that garnered over 3 million impressions, IDF wrote, “Hamas is a genocidal terrorist organization. They said it themselves.”

Attached is a video compilation of Hamas leaders making disconcerting statements:

Hamas is a genocidal terrorist organization. They said it themselves: pic.twitter.com/zzz6gkVkkd

— Israel Defense Forces (@IDF) October 10, 2023

Hamad Al-Regeb, Hamas Official Sheikh (Elder): “Oh Allah, bring annihilation upon the Jews. Paralyze them, destroy their entity. Oh Allah, enable us to get to the necks of the Jews.”

Fathi Hamad, Former Interior Minister of Gaza: “The day of your [Jews’] slaughter, extermination, and annihilation is near.”

Unnamed Hamas Imam speaking at Hamas Friday sermon: “… until not a single Jew or Zionist is left on the face of the Earth.”

“The moment will come when their property will be destroyed and their sons annihilated.”

Another unnamed Hamas Imam speaking at Hamas Friday sermon: “Our doctrine in fighting you [the Jews] is that we will totally exterminate you. We will not leave a single one of you alive.”

Mahmoud Al-Zahar, Hamas co-founder: “(The Quran says), ‘Kill them wherever you may find them.’ We will fight them wherever we can.”

Ahmad Bahr – Deputy Speaker, Hamas parliament: “Oh, Allah, destroy the Jews and their supporters. Oh Allah, destroy the Americans and their supporters. Oh, Allah, count them one by one. Kill them all without leaving a single one.”

Elon Musk responded with a bold statement.

“Hamas is a genocidal terrorist organization. They said it themselves,” IDF asserted — to which Musk replied, “Yes, they are crystal clear about this.”

Yes, they are crystal clear about this

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 10, 2023

Despite a close eye on the billionaire’s every move, the mainstream media has brought little to no attention to this particular Musk statement.

However, the European Union is giving Elon Musk an ultimatum to censor “illegal content and disinformation” about the Israel-Hamas war on X.

Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 9:00 am

The Daily Telegraph can also reveal NSW Police are in talks with legal experts about what legislation they can use to diffuse protesters using hateful or racially abusive language on Sunday, if radical “fringe” protesters defy calls to stay away.

FFS, you gutless cowards — just enforce the laws you already have on the books.

Incitement to violence is a criminal offence. Hamas’s useful idiots in Sydney have been screaming out their criminality for the past week.

Arrest them and law-breaking will magically once again become its own deterrent — if the cops start doing their frigging job!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 9:03 am

Re the US Speaker, Scalise was shot and nearly killed by a Bernie-Bro several years ago (our favourite fat fascist fool celebrated the incident at the time). He seems unlikely to be unduly sympathetic to the DemonRat fascists.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 12, 2023 9:04 am

diffuse protesters using hateful or racially abusive language on Sunday, if radical “fringe” protesters defy calls to stay away.

When in doubt, just use the public health order thingy.
Worked when they wanted to last time, selectively enforcing it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 12, 2023 9:05 am

I think SloJoe gets a pass for being broken, this time.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 12, 2023 9:07 am

The hateful and abusive language occurs in many mosques every Friday I suspect.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:10 am

For the first time, Sydney’s Jews fear to walk their streets

Once seen as a sanctuary, an anti-Israel protest this week turned Sydney in a hostile place for many Jewish people.

Aaron Patrick
Senior correspondent

When Oliver Freedman goes shopping, visits relatives or gives board presentations, he wears a yarmulke. This week, for the first time in his life, the businessman said he felt afraid on Sydney’s streets wearing his Jewish skull cap.

The trigger for Freedman, and many other Sydney Jews, was Monday night’s pro-Hamas protest march to the Opera House from Town Hall, which led to warnings from the police and Jewish community organisations to Jews to avoid the city for their safety.

Like most Jews, Freedman had seen Australia as a kind of religious sanctuary, which is why he chose to raise a son here, an 18-year-old who this week was hiding in a Jerusalem bomb shelter instead of partying with friends.

On Monday, Freedman found himself ordered to stay away from his Martin Place office unless he made himself look less Jewish – an experience of deep historical significance for a people once forced to wear the Star of David.

“No one of any religion of belief should be told that,” Freedman said in a post on LinkedIn, a site he had never previously used to express religious or political views.

“How can it be that marchers are allowed to walk down the centre of the city screaming “f–k Israel” and “f–k the Jews?”

A video posted by the Australian Jewish Association also shows the large crowd chanting “gas the Jews” while waving the flag of Palestine, which the Australian government refers to as the Occupied Palestinian Territories.

Jewish anger was exacerbated by the police force’s decision to forcibly remove a man waiving an Israeli flag at the protests because he was “breaching the peace”, said the officer who arrested him.

‘Driving around, looking for Jews’

Jewish Sydneysiders see the fall-out from the war in their daily lives.

Police cars are stationed outside their schools, backing up private security guards who have long been considered necessary.

Security has increased at the Great Synagogue, Sydney Jewish Museum and many other Jewish sites.

One small business owner said her family hadn’t been told “they can’t go somewhere for their safety” since the Holocaust, which her four European grandparents managed to survive.

“I usually walk around Sydney with my kids,” she said. “I am not going to now there are people driving around looking for Jews.”

There are about 40,000 Jews in Sydney. Since Hamas militants attacked Israel on Saturday, stories have circulated about threats from a small slice of the city’s 200,000-strong Muslim population.

The two communities operate in a kind a self-imposed segregation: the Jews have the beachside Eastern suburbs; the Muslims are inland, in the West.

Young Muslims are taught they’re not welcome in the city’s white east and north, says Western Sydney University academic Rhonda Itaoui, who refers to the phenomenon as the geography of Islamophobia.

This perception of hostility is why young Arab men often travel in groups when outside their home suburbs, she has written.

Place “says a lot about who you are, who you belong to, who your social circles should be,” she said in 2016. “I think that’s very strong in Sydney.”

Beach border

The informal border between Jewish and Islamic Sydney meets around Maroubra, a southern beach suburb.

Stories have circulated of men driving through its nighttime streets this week yelling “Allah Akbar” and “death to the Jews”.

“We have had numerous reports of mobs, not only in CBD, driving around saying they are looking for Jews,” said David Adler, president of the Australian Jewish Association.

In a show of community cohesion, Jewish groups organised a prayer vigil for Wednesday evening. But the location was kept secret from attendees until the last moment to prevent harassment from anti-Israel protestors.

“There will be lots of cops there, which will help things calm down,” said one Jewish leader.

The feeling of insecurity has translated into anger towards the NSW Labor government, and the Greens party, which many Jews see as sympathetic to Hamas, the Palestinian organisation that controls the Gaza Strip and attacked Israel on Saturday.

In March last year, Australia’s government listed Hamas as a terrorist organisation.

Whether the resentment will last is unclear. On Wednesday morning Premier Chris Minns apologised for Monday’s rally. He said a second pro-Palestinian demonstration planned for Sunday would not be allowed.

“The idea that they’re going to commandeer Sydney’s streets is not going to happen,” he said.

The decision was welcomed in the Jewish community. But pro-Palestinian Muslims are well-organised and energetic, and the police acknowledge they cannot prevent more rallies if organisers give them seven days notice.

Reached by phone on Wednesday morning, Freedman said his fear had subsided, but he was concerned the atmosphere in the city could revert to threatening at any time.

“If they call more marches for the city, I just hope the police ensure everyone feels free to be in the city and do whatever they want on that day,” he said. “Today should be a day when I feel safe in this country.”

Barry
Barry
October 12, 2023 9:11 am

The Daily Telegraph can also reveal NSW Police are in talks with legal experts about what legislation they can use to diffuse protesters using hateful or racially abusive language on Sunday

I suggest they use the Legislation Headed: Rubber bullets, Beanbag rounds and CS Spray 2023 Edition.

Should be a little bit left over from 2020-21 in Vic, if they want to give VICPol a call.

Rabz
October 12, 2023 9:11 am

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
Less than three years ago we had a president dedicated to world peace.
Now chaos reigns supreme.

Stolen elections have consequences.

Zatara
Zatara
October 12, 2023 9:11 am

Show me the M-4 carbines used by Hamas.

Exactly. Not to beat a dead horse but I’d make the same challenge as I have reviewed at least a hundred videos of Hamas Einsatzgruppen members in the attacks of 7 Oct and have seen absolutely zero US weapons.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 9:12 am

Rabz

Your (very) average braindead collectivist: “Veneztraliastan is da most successful multicu*tural society in da world”.

There is no long-term successful multi-cultural country in the world.

There are, however, successful multi-ethnic countries, but only ones that adhere to a common culture. A common culture is the key.

Zatara
Zatara
October 12, 2023 9:15 am

Might I suggest a propaganda/psychological campaign that Israel could run while preparing to sirt gaza out?

How about hiring a battalion of Polish Winged Hussars to gallop around just out of range for the visual? Or would that go over their heads?

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 9:17 am

The Savage Nihilism of ‘Free Palestine’

It’s time for us to reckon with the hopelessness at the heart of Arab and Western ‘liberationist’ ideology

HUSSEIN ABOUBAKR MANSOUR

Published in the Jewish online mag Tablet.

A couple of criticisms I could make, but a helpful article for understanding the moral vision (or lack thereof) that informs Muslim and Leftist support for Hamas.

calli
calli
October 12, 2023 9:17 am

Compare the pair.

Last night the NSW Rum Plod deployed 100 police to “protect” the Jewish vigil at Dover Heights.

On Sunday, the NSW Rum Plod are going to deploy 1,000 police to monitor an illegal and unauthorised demonstration by the pro-Hamas criminals and sympathisers.

Indolent
Indolent
October 12, 2023 9:17 am
Chris
Chris
October 12, 2023 9:17 am

So now that we have mass murderers celebrating in the Opera House and Police preventing Jews walking the streets, its time to look at important and relevant legislation.

The NSW Police have shown that they will not protect individuals. They have demonstrated incompetence at the Lindt Cafe. They have shown that dangerous murderers propagate hatred in the streets, and they have worked on the assumptions that Australians may explode in violence against minorities.

Who saved her neighbours in Israel? The woman who armed them. Is it true that Australians do not need the right to self-defense? Is it true that ordinary Australians are the threat, as our ABC-programmed sneering class pretended?

Time to look at the self-righteous lies of the National Firearms agreement. Firearms should be able to be licensed for the purpose of self-defence, and Jewish schools and institutions should get them first.

Indolent
Indolent
October 12, 2023 9:18 am
Tom
Tom
October 12, 2023 9:18 am

There is no long-term successful multi-cultural country in the world.

There are, however, successful multi-ethnic countries, but only ones that adhere to a common culture. A common culture is the key.

Correct, BJ.

Multi-culturalism in Australia is separatism, where migrants are encouraged to live in non-English-speaking ghettoes, not respecting or integrating into the Australian nation.

Gabor
Gabor
October 12, 2023 9:21 am

lotocoti
Oct 12, 2023 9:05 AM

I think SloJoe gets a pass for being broken, this time.

Was there more to it, or they just picked out this part?

Indolent
Indolent
October 12, 2023 9:21 am

All Wars Are Bankers’ Wars: How private bankers have imposed their system of slavery on the world

One of the comments –

raj patel

No mention of the fact that JP Morgan was booked to sail on the Titanic and cancelled his plans at the last minute. However, the men opposing the federal reserve: Benjamin Guggenheim, Isador Straus, and John Jacob Astor all went down with the ship.

They do seem to operate on a large scale.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 9:22 am

legislation they can use to diffuse protesters

Another triumph of university edumacation? The work of a semi-literate “graduate”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 9:24 am

Zatara
Oct 12, 2023 9:15 AM
Might I suggest a propaganda/psychological campaign that Israel could run while preparing to sirt gaza out?

How about hiring a battalion of Polish Winged Hussars to gallop around just out of range for the visual? Or would that go over their heads?

Probably too subtle, as, indeed, the Triumphal March might be.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 12, 2023 9:27 am

The perfect weapon for the Gaza border x 100.

Aliens 1986 Turrets

calli
calli
October 12, 2023 9:29 am

The things you learn. I didn’t know about the Winged Hussars until someone mentioned them the other day. Cool. Very cool.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 9:34 am

legislation they can use to diffuse protesters

Another triumph of university edumacation? The work of a semi-literate “graduate”

Perhaps they meant defuse?

(Sorry; couldn’t resist it.)

JC
JC
October 12, 2023 9:36 am

Indolent

What’s the purpose of the Titanic post?

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 12, 2023 9:41 am

The Daily Telegraph can also reveal NSW Police are in talks with legal experts about what legislation they can use to diffuse protesters using hateful or racially abusive language on Sunday, if radical “fringe” protesters defy calls to stay away.

“We’re trying!!!!”

Rabz
October 12, 2023 9:45 am

“We’re trying!!!!”

Before breaking down and blubbering inconsolably.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 12, 2023 9:48 am

Looks like the Tel el-Hawa Home Owners Association
backed the wrong strong horse.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2023 9:50 am

Boambee John

Oct 12, 2023 8:37 AM

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 12, 2023 8:13 AM
Can I just say to Dover, thank you for this blog.

9 2

OK, which TWO stupid fundamental orifices gave thumbs down to a simple expression of gratitude to Dover?

Hi Wodney!

dopey
dopey
October 12, 2023 9:50 am

Sydney Morning Heraid.
“Wouldn’t it send a stronger message to display the Palestinian and Israeli flags together on the sails of the Opera House ? ”

Margaret Ryan, Bexley

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 12, 2023 9:51 am

I read that Hamas declared war on Israel, in response Israel declared war on Hamas.
I assume this is correct.

Whose side is Australia on?

Rabz
October 12, 2023 9:54 am

“Wouldn’t it send a stronger message to display the hamarse and Israeli flags together on the sails of the Oprah House?”

It would certainly send a stupid message to stupid people, especially the sort that write stupid mini-missives to the Silly Moaning Hemorrhoid.

Johnny Rotten
October 12, 2023 9:55 am

Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition.

– Adam Smith

Johnny Rotten
October 12, 2023 9:57 am

Whose side is Australia on?

Australia is on it’s backside.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 9:57 am

Yes campaigner and university professor is charged after allegedly SPITTING at a No voter during tense clash at Voice event

– Denise Ferris charged with assault
– Allegedly spat at No activist

A university professor and Yes campaigner has been charged with assault after she was filmed allegedly spitting at and slapping a No voter.

Emeritus Professor Denise Ferris, from the Australian National University, was charged on Wednesday night with assault over confrontations she had with Andrew Thaler at Centennial Park in Cooma, southeast NSW on September 17.

NSW Police have confirmed Prof Ferris, 70, has been charged with common assault and is set to appear at Cooma Local Court on November 22.

‘Officers attached to Monaro Police District were told three people had been involved in a physical altercation,’ a police spokesperson said.

Mr Thaler told Daily Mail Australia on Wednesday that police had taken too long in bringing charges against Prof Ferris.

‘She should have been charged from the get-go and it has taken over three weeks and public pressure to get some action because she’s Labor, because she is Yes they get special treatment,’ he said.

‘It’s complete bulls**t.’

Mr Thaler criticised how the officer investigating the case had gone on leave during the investigation.

‘She should have been charged on day one,’ he said. ‘Justice delayed is justice denied.’

NSW Police confirmed the officer had taken leave.

Prof Ferris, who has an unpaid position with the university, was the head of the School of Art & Design since 2013.

In further video taken by Mr Thaler on September 17 a man in the Yes23 is seen pressing his face close to camera.

‘Hey, f***wit, p*** off. F***wit, p*** off,’ the man says as .

‘No, I’m standing my ground,’ Mr Thaler replied. ‘Stop pushing into me.’

In a separate video the man appears to strike Mr Thaler who holds up his right arm trying to ward him off.

‘One metre,’ Mr Thaler says.

‘Do it again.’

Police said they were investigating the second incident.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 9:58 am

Science is the great antidote to the poison of enthusiasm and superstition.

– Adam Smith

Adam, meet Climate Science.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 12, 2023 10:02 am

Bar Beach Swimmer
Oct 12, 2023 9:41 AM
The Daily Telegraph can also reveal NSW Police are in talks with legal experts about what legislation they can use to diffuse protesters using hateful or racially abusive language on Sunday, if radical “fringe” protesters defy calls to stay away.

“We’re trying!!!!”

Yes, very bloody trying!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:02 am

Wall Street Sheet
@wallstreetsheet
????? ???????

Luton Airport fire started by the Lithium battery component of a diesel hybrid, yet media just state “diesel car.”

This is why you can’t trust the media….

Could be something like this:

https://media.landrover.com/news/2020/07/new-48v-mild-hybrid-diesel-joins-plug-electric-range-rover
#LTN #LUTON #EV

The charger on the Land Rover PHEV is under the passenger seat. That looks like where the explosion comes from.

The charger is quite a large box so may have decent size capacitors for smoothing and it may not be protected for reverse power from the battery.
comment image

It does not take a lot of energy in a confined space to make a big bang.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 12, 2023 10:10 am

Indigenous Voice to Parliament: Ad experts point to ‘fatal mistake’ in campaign
Katina Curtis and Dan Jervis-BardyThe West Australian
Thu, 12 October 2023 2:00AM
Comments

Advertising experts believe the Voice referendum will become a textbook study of how not to run a campaign while social media creators say the Yes side needed to embrace viral content much earlier.

Days out from the referendum, polling shows the drop in support for Yes has moderated but it continues to be a long way behind people intending to vote No.

The Yes campaign has focused most of its efforts on the ground game, having individual conversations with voters, partly because it believed that was the best way to win support but partly because it didn’t have the kind of funding needed to run a weeks-long advertising blitz.

But ANU political communications expert Andrew Hughes says even the ads it has run largely missed the mark.

“It will become a textbook case study of what not to do in a political campaign. Because how can you start off with a two-thirds majority of people behind you and lose them as recently as three months ago?” he said.

“Yes were constantly looking for momentum throughout the campaign, which is crazy, because they actually had it.

“They were losing momentum, not getting it. And every time they put out an ad or a (communication), it seemed like it lost even more.”

He believes it was a strategic misstep early on to decide not to provide lots of information about potential models for the Voice.

The No side also rolled out a highly effective slogan — if you don’t know, vote no — which has been used across communications from campaign outfit Fair Australia, the Liberals and now in Clive Palmer’s ads.

In contrast, backers of a Yes vote have used a variety of slogans and messages so none has stuck or stood out.

As well, Dr Hughes said the use of John Farnham’s You’re The Voice ended up being a “fatal mistake” because it targeted over-50s, who were probably already in the No camp, rather than younger voters more likely to spread content on social media.

While the No campaign has been outnumbered on the ground, experts believe it has won the social media fight.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 12, 2023 10:12 am

The Yes cope starts:

At the pointy end of the Voice referendum campaign, the Israel crisis has made it harder for Yes to be heard

Oh right, yeah it’s the war against Hamas that is going to spoil the Yes campaign because the war is distracting voters from Yes’s planned intensification of its pitch in the days running up to the referendum; a pitch that has been turning voters to No in droves. Because running harder on that losing pitch was going to turn things around! You know it makes sense.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:14 am

‘Scrambling’: Peta Credlin says NSW Police in ‘damage control’ amid launch of new taskforce to better coordinate responses to further protests

Sky News Australia host Peta Credlin has claimed the NSW Police are in “damage control” after establishing a new operation tasked with bolstering public safety following Monday’s violent pro-Palestine protest.

Peta Credlin has taken aim at the NSW Police over their new taskforce set up in the aftermath Monday’s pro-Palestine rally which escalated into wild scenes on the steps of the Opera House.

The state’s police force launched Operation Shelter in an effort to improve their response to future protests and said the new measure’s primary focus was to ensure public safety.

NSW Police Force Acting Commissioner David Hudson APM said the authorities’ number one priority will always be the safety of the community.

“The NSW Police has now set up what they’re calling a protest taskforce,” she said.

“Yet with a very large protest set for the weekend – again, unauthorised – you can only imagine the vile hate that will spill out again on the streets in Australia.”

The Sky News host said the pro-Palestine protests have been followed by reports from Israel of the Hamas terrorist group’s “depravity”.

“And this all comes with confirmed reports out of Israel of the terrorist depravity that’s confronted soldiers and medics today as they reach the dead in communities near the Gaza border – hundreds of innocent civilians, including women and children, many of whom were raped first and some of whom were beheaded including babies,” she said.

“And yet here in Australia, seen around the world, was the vision of Australians marching on the Opera House, lit up in the colour of the Israeli flag, screaming ‘gas the Jews’ and ‘f**k the Jews’.”

Credlin also said she felt there was something “deeply incongruous” about Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s actions in the past 24 hours regarding the protest action.

“Deeply emotional about how Indigenous Australians might react to a lost referendum, but comparatively detached about the enormity of this massive loss of life from terrorism,” she said.

“Or the shame that these protests in Sydney, at our iconic Opera House, brings to us all.

“The fact that we still don’t have any confirmation from the government that the national security committee of Cabinet has even met, to talk about our security response to any local ramifications from these events, well that simply staggers me,” she continued.

The Sky News host also added she felt concerned Australia was absent from a joint statement issued by the White House expressing solidarity with Israel.

Credlin noted the Prime Minister had visited a Melbourne synagogue on Wednesday before attending a fundraiser but said she believed the government had “failed utterly” in responding to the conflict.

“It’s in responding to unexpected crises that governments reveal their true mettle,” she said.

“And so far, Labor – in Canberra and Sydney – are failing us utterly.”

Gabor
Gabor
October 12, 2023 10:17 am

Oh come on
Oct 12, 2023 10:12 AM

The Yes cope starts:

At the pointy end of the Voice referendum campaign, the Israel crisis has made it harder for Yes to be heard

I have heard of some lame accuses but this takes the cake.
Almost saying the No camp started this war to derail the referendum.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 12, 2023 10:17 am

There are, however, successful multi-ethnic countries, but only ones that adhere to a common culture. A common culture is the key.

Hair splitting perhaps on what constitutes a ‘common culture’ – but I don’t see Sikh, or Bhuddist, or Hindu, or Scots Presbyterian Australians inciting and parading rage and intolerance and threatening violence against the society they live in.

There seems to be enough cultural overlap between most of humanity for this not to occur. Islam is an outlier, not a general model.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:18 am

Israel Forms Emergency Government for War Against Hamas

Bloomberg) — Israel formed a rare emergency government with some opposition members on Wednesday to see the country through its war with Hamas.

A “war management cabinet” will be established with three members, according to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office. They are Netanyahu, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and ex-Defense Minister Benny Gantz, who now heads an opposition party.

Ron Dermer, who’s strategic affairs minister, and Gadi Eizenkot, a former chief of staff of the Israel Defense Forces, will be observers.

During the war period, no bills or government decisions will be promoted that do not concern the conduct of the war. All senior appointments will be automatically extended during the war period.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 10:21 am

‘She should have been charged from the get-go and it has taken over three weeks and public pressure to get some action because she’s Labor, because she is Yes they get special treatment,’ he said.

NSW Police living up to their motto:

Culpam poena premit comes

Punishment swiftly follows crime.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 12, 2023 10:21 am

partly because it didn’t have the kind of funding needed to run a weeks-long advertising blitz.

Lol right the problem is the Yes campaign is underfunded.

The No side also rolled out a highly effective slogan – if you don’t know, vote no

‘Don’t know, vote no’ has been around forever. Certainly since the Whitlam era referenda and probably before that, too. It doesn’t belong to the No campaign – it’s just common sense.

Dr Hughes said the use of John Farnham’s You’re The Voice ended up being a “fatal mistake” because it targeted over-50s,

I agree with this, although I wouldn’t describe it as a fatal mistake. It was just a mistake. What proportion of the country would vibe with that song? No one under 30 or who’s immigrated here over the last 30 years, for starters.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
October 12, 2023 10:22 am

lotocoti
Oct 12, 2023 9:48 AM
Looks like the Tel el-Hawa Home Owners Association
backed the wrong strong horse.

I do have sympathy for the non Hamas population in Gaza, but I cannot help but agree with the words of that Imam, in Sydney, shouted on Sunday evening.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:22 am

EDITORIALS

Hamas attack exposes our ideologically captured universities

by Washington Examiner

As the depravity of Hamas continues to be realized — including the beheading of dozens of babies, the rape of hundreds of women, and the deaths of over a thousand Israelis — some have been shocked by how this violence is being not just tolerated, but celebrated, on college campuses.

“In nearly 50 years of Harvard affiliation, I have never been as disillusioned and alienated as I am today,” former Harvard President and National Economic Council Director Lawrence Summers said Monday after over two dozen Harvard student groups issued a joint statement supporting the attacks.

And Harvard was not alone. Similar statements from student groups are still pouring in from college campuses across the nation, each of them offering “unwavering support of the Palestinian people’s right to resist colonial oppression.”

Who is teaching our nation’s highest performing students that rape and murder of innocent civilians is justified?

The statement signed by students at Columbia provides a helpful hint. “As Columbia students, our classes regularly discuss the inevitability of resistance as part of the struggle for decolonization,” the statement reads. “We study under renowned scholars who denounce the fact that the media requires oppressed peoples to be ‘perfect victims’ in order to deserve sympathy.”

Our nation’s college students are being taught to side with terrorists by the insular far-left academics we have allowed to monopolize our nation’s institutions of higher learning.

For decades, far-left academics have consolidated power on college campuses, denying teaching jobs to any scholar who did not toe the ideological line inside and outside the classroom. Every discipline has been corrupted, not just the usual suspects such as African American studies and gender studies, but English, sociology, economics, history, and even the sciences. Anthropology scholars can’t even talk about biological sex differences in past civilizations.

Denial of truth in academia is so bad that the most recent college graduates cannot recognize reality in front of them.

Asked by YouGov if Hamas deliberately struck Israeli civilians, the vast majority of all U.S. adults said yes, but just 32% of those aged 18-29 did.

Zatara
Zatara
October 12, 2023 10:23 am

Because how can you start off with a two-thirds majority of people behind you and lose them as recently as three months ago?”

Because 3 months is plenty of time to read between the lines on the deal and figure out how horrifically dangerous it was to the country?

Hey, you asked.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 10:23 am

Advertising experts believe the Voice referendum will become a textbook study of how not to run a campaign

Always going to be difficult when you’ve got a dud product to begin with.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 12, 2023 10:23 am

NSW police have the same weakness as VIC police.

The brown paper bag.

Figures
Figures
October 12, 2023 10:25 am

The Daily Telegraph can also reveal NSW Police are in talks with legal experts about what legislation they can use to diffuse protesters using hateful or racially abusive language on Sunday, if radical “fringe” protesters defy calls to stay away.

I’ll help them out:

Minns: I’ve been reliably informed that three people in China have the sniffles, ergo the government can do whatever it wants.

Cassie of Sydney
October 12, 2023 10:26 am

And please note this, particularly those Vegan activists on the left, that Israelis adore their animals, particularly dogs and cats. Dogs are honoured in Judaism, we remember the night of the exodus, when the dogs in Egypt stayed quiet whilst the Hebrews fled.

It’s becoming clear that the sub-human scum who invaded Israel on Shabbat morning, butchering and murdering men, women, children and babies, also butchered the dogs, goats and sheep of Southern Israel.

Last night, during the minute’s silence for the dead, I put my head down and looked at a Zionist dog who was on a leash in front of me. This Zionist dog was a collie, they really are a beautiful and gentle breed, and this Zionist dog remained still and silent for the whole minute.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 10:26 am

Sounds like the IDF is thinking like I was thinking.

WTAF Was Hamas Thinking? (11 Oct)

Gaza “will soon be a tent city,” Israeli Defense Force (IDF) spokesman Jonathan Conricus said Tuesday evening. “That is to make sure that Hamas at the end of this war won’t have any military capabilities by which they can threaten or kill Israeli civilians.”

Kill as few civilians as you can but leave no stone upon another. Let the UN supply them the tents and feed them.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 12, 2023 10:26 am

Always going to be difficult when you’ve got a dud product to begin with.

Agree fully. This was always going to be No’s to lose because the proposition absolutely stinks.

local oaf
October 12, 2023 10:27 am

Can someone please trick Minns and his plodsters into believing that the mueslis marching next weekend are anti-trans?

Cops would be there in force, no doubt about it!

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 12, 2023 10:28 am

Always going to be difficult when you’ve got a dud product to begin with.

It aint over yet.

But, it was assumed that a one sided campaign and lots of lies would swing the vote to the desired outcome. Hubris from the last plebiscite.

I’m predicting a rigged vote as the outcome. Whether it is enough to change the result, remains to be seen.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:28 am

General Coup

Let’s be honest about Mark Milley’s legacy.

To read the voluminous coverage of General Mark Milley’s retirement as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, one might mistakenly surmise that he is the greatest military patriot since George Washington. But the opposite is far closer to the truth.

Promoted as the supposed savior of the republic by a well-orchestrated public relations campaign and a fawning press, Milley exhibited ambitions more akin to those of a partisan military commissar than the nation’s senior military adviser under the authority of the president. His tenure proved destructive to post-WWII civil-military norms, the integrity of the military chain of command, and the image of the U.S. military as being worthy of public trust.

Milley supervised a subversive revolution in military culture. Under his watch, the various branches of the armed forces began allowing drag shows on installations and stocked base libraries with pornography. Puppy-masked military officers performed sexual acts on each other—and later boasted about it online.

On the battlefield, Milley was no better. He oversaw the greatest recruiting crisis in history, the failed evacuation of Afghanistan, and the forced removal of thousands of patriots who stood up to an illegal shot mandate. Yet at the slightest hint of criticism, Milley wrapped himself in the uniform and castigated critics as “people who don’t know what they’re talking about.”

Mark Milley may be the greatest uniformed antagonist to the U.S. Constitution and the rule of law today. His tenure was that of a strongman who accelerated a silent coup by the defense establishment.

A Serial Violator of Traditions

Milley was the most openly partisan chairman in the history of the office.

Under Donald Trump, he proved a strong institutionalist who bristled at being questioned, insisted that the uniform was the highest form of virtue, and believed the military’s role was superior to that of its civilian supervisors and citizen stakeholders.

Even in retirement, he still goes out of his way to derogate Trump, who departed the White House nearly three years ago. In his swansong interview with the Atlantic’s editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, Milley shared unflattering and previously unreported details about his relationship with the former president. (He even called Trump a “wannabe dictator” in his retirement remarks delivered from Fort Myer on September 29.)

However, when asked for his thoughts on President Biden’s disastrous decisions as the current commander in chief, the best Milley could come up with was,

“This country doesn’t want generals figuring out what orders we’re going to accept.”

That statement is of course contradicted by his insistence in January of 2021 that presidential orders to military combatant commanders be passed through him for approval.

Not only was that a direct attempt to circumvent the chain of command, it was an unlawful directive that could have delayed needed military action should the nation have faced an attack.

He has yet to face accountability for that usurpation of authority.

As chairman, the only voices Milley answered to were critics of the president who nominated him.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 12, 2023 10:30 am

Palestinian officials are warning of a humanitarian crisis as Gaza’s only power plant runs out of fuel amid the Israel-Hamas conflict.

Today, Palestine, tomorrow, Australia. Thaaanks Howard, RGR, Turncoat, and Albo.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 12, 2023 10:30 am

I’ve noticed Coles has taken down all of its preachy Yes propaganda it had plastered around the entrances to its stores. Obviously it’s realised that most of its customers disagree with its ‘principled stance’. This kind of opportunistic corporate virtue signalling makes me want to vomit. Screw Coles.

eric hinton
eric hinton
October 12, 2023 10:32 am

Oh right, yeah it’s the war against Hamas that is going to spoil the Yes campaign

Tampa referendum

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 10:34 am

And Harvard was not alone. Similar statements from student groups are still pouring in from college campuses across the nation

The Bee leaps into action, again:

Harvard Student Leaves Lecture On Microaggressions To Attend ‘Kill The Jews’ Rally (11 Oct)

It might not even be satire either.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 12, 2023 10:35 am

In Coping news:

The No side also rolled out a highly effective slogan — if you don’t know, vote no — which has been used across communications from campaign outfit Fair Australia, the Liberals and now in Clive Palmer’s ads.

Subtext: frightening the sheep.

The reality is that Albanese has deliberately made a small target out of the massive issues that go with his Voice campaign (which, after all, is the basis of the Voice campaign):

How is the Voice supposed to reach through the Federal Parliament to influence State policy on health, education, justice?

What is Makarrata? What is Team Albanese planning when it promises to implement that and how is the design of the Voice going to play into that?

Given his Government’s less than stellar performance and dependence on the Greens, If You Don’t Know Vote No is far more than a shitty slogan.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 10:35 am

Denial of truth in academia is so bad that the most recent college graduates cannot recognize reality in front of them.

And yet post-modernism promised so much.

[sarc]

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:36 am

It Doesn’t work – 2 Black Coffees in the Morning – only Dinner – No weight loss!

Your morning coffee might be helping you lose weight, new study says
But there’s a catch

Very few people need to be encouraged to down their morning coffee. In fact, most of us are trying to cut back on our daily caffeine intake, taking a more health-conscious approach. However, new research suggests drinking coffee is beneficial for weight loss.

Anyone pursuing weight loss for their health knows that it is no simple feat, generally involving strict lifestyle changes, strict diets and strict workout schedules. But while most experts would encourage us to cut out our favourite guilty pleasures, the latest research suggests one of our favourites, our daily cup of coffee, might actually benefit our weight loss pursuit.

However, the recommendation comes with a stipulation.

To reap the benefits of your morning cuppa, you need to drink straight black coffee. That means no sweeteners (including honey and stevia), and no plant-based, low-fat, or good ol’ regular cow’s milk.

According to the findings of a study recently published in The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition regular consumption of unsweetened coffee can be associated with a small amount of weight loss.

The findings are a result of a three-study review, comparing the weight loss results of participants whose diet involved drinking either sweetened or unsweetened coffee.

To be clear, the participants in the study who drank unsweetened coffee didn’t shed an amount of weight worthy of a new wardrobe.

On average, the study found that drinking one cup of unsweetened coffee per day was associated with a loss of 0.12 kg of body weight over approximately four years.

On the flip side, while the study is cause for celebration amongst the community of long-black drinkers, sweet coffee addicts may need to reassess their morning order.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 10:37 am

I’ve noticed Coles has taken down all of its preachy Yes propaganda it had plastered around the entrances to its stores.

This happened ages ago in my neck of the woods.

And Farnham doesn’t feature on the in-house radio either.

Oh come on
Oh come on
October 12, 2023 10:37 am

I wonder what the all stores memo from Coles head office said. Err you know all of those Yes signs we had you stick up around the supermarket? Well, we still fully endorse this position but could you just place the stickers somewhere prominent but somewhere else, like in the bin for example? But prominently in there because this is a cause we really believe in. And make sure they’re displayed prominently amongst the rubbish in the rubbish truck after the bin is emptied and before the rubbish is carted away and buried in a hole where we can forget about it. If you have the time.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 10:40 am

Ms Catley eventually offered a qualified apology over the events of Monday night, telling parliament: “I apologise for anyone if they feel unsafe,” she said.

That “if” that is a middle finger to every sane NSW resident. I wonder if Ms Catley’s electorate is amused.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 12, 2023 10:42 am

Advertising experts believe the Voice referendum will become a textbook study of how not to run a campaign while social media creators say the Yes side needed to embrace viral content much earlier.

They’ll probably win an award at Cannes like the Bud Light ad agency did.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 12, 2023 10:42 am

A common culture is the key.
“Culture” is food, music, student theatre.
What we need is to re-commit to Common Law.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:42 am

Israel vs. Hamas: There’s only one thing Israel must do now to Hamas

The West has long been eager for a non-violent solution to terrorism and hatred but now the world has witnessed the truth about Hamas

Newt Gingrich

The only strategy strong and decisive enough to respond to Hamas’s violence is to destroy the group utterly.

At the end of this conflict there should be no remnant of Hamas or any other terrorist organization left in Gaza.

There should be a new government willing to recognize and work with Israel. Once that government is established, every effort should focus on making Gaza prosperous.

The people there must learn that peace with their neighbor will lead to a dramatically better life than tolerating a corrupt, ruthless, terror dictatorship that sacrifices everyone’s quality of life and opportunity to prosper.

Phase one must be to control of all of Gaza. This is a big job because there are more than 2 million people currently living there.

Phase two must be methodically rooting out terrorism and its supporters. The United States and its allies initially arrested more than 400,000 Germans, when it occupied the country after World War II, who had ties to the Nazi Party or government.

There was a methodical process of keeping former Nazis from participating in government.

In Gaza, this process of erasing Hamas and its influence must include changing the school curricula, ending payments to families of suicide bombers, locking up Hamas activists, and jailing Hamas leaders who plotted to kill Israeli citizens.

Any strategic goal short of destroying Hamas and replacing it with an acceptable government in Gaza simply sets the stage for another war and another series of atrocities.

The West’s eagerness to find some nonviolent solution to hatred, barbarism, and the collapse of civilization must be replaced by a firm belief in the truth about Hamas.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 12, 2023 10:44 am

However, she said that she had no power to stop the pro-Palestinian protest which led to the violent scenes.

“Decision making around public gatherings and demonstrations should be left to the New South Wales Police Force who have extensive experience in mass gatherings and public safety,” she said.

What she was really saying is “I am weak and cowardly as I would rather pass the buck than show leadership and instruct the Commissioner to effectively deal with it using their expertise in such matters”.

The latter part both gives credit to the police while telling the commissioner that it is a test of her competency. How come I know how to do their jobs but don’t get paid accordingly, and why are they even there?

caveman
caveman
October 12, 2023 10:45 am

Advertising experts believe the Voice referendum will become a textbook study of how not to run a campaign

Not enuff abuse, .more belittling mockery and violence.

Crossie
Crossie
October 12, 2023 10:45 am

As Robert Gates, former defense secretary in the Obama administration, once put it, Biden has “been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.” The final nail in the coffin of Middle East peace will be Biden’s mangling of Trump’s Abraham Accords.

Biden is a train wreck of epic proportions.

I blame Mitch McConnell and the Republican establishment who united with Democrats in bring down Trump. They all knew Biden very well but thought he would suit them and their ambitions much better Trump who not only talked about world peace but did something about it. Simply put, Democrats and establishment Republicans don’t want peace.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 12, 2023 10:46 am

Trump voters don’t need ‘deprogramming’

Hillary Clinton has cast vast swathes of the US electorate as a brainwashed ‘cult’.

A case in point is failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Last week, in a CNN interview with Christiane Amanpour, she tried to explain Trump’s enduring popularity with a large segment of American voters. Those voters, she explained, are ‘extremists’ and they’re in ‘a cult’. ‘At some point’, she continued, ‘there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members… Something needs to happen.’

Perhaps the political masterminds who advise her are responsible for the guff she’s now spouting.

I can just imagine the Democratic Party Svengalis in the pre-interview meeting, spitballing ideas about how to make Hillary sound sane and normal. ‘I know!’, one pipes up: ‘Let’s get her to imply that she’ll be rounding up Trump voters and putting them into re-education camps! That will win everybody over!’>

But there is an alternative, even more disconcerting explanation for Clinton’s statement: she might actually believe it.

This politician, who currently holds no political office and therefore has no real political mandate, might actually want to lock up millions of her fellow countrymen in re-education camps because they still want to vote for her erstwhile opponent.

And she had the nerve to call Trump an ‘authoritarian’.

Does nobody own a mirror in Washington, DC?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 12, 2023 10:47 am

Final update on SE Melbourne family home invasion and stabbing by gang. Trial at end. Last chap sentenced this morning.
All up 6 years jail with a min 3 years. No one was expecting a semi-responsible sentencing. Great news. Family can put this appalling violence behind them. Hopefully the message get thru to him and others. For such a horrible week, I am rejoicing in this small bit of good news.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 12, 2023 10:48 am

Denial of truth in academia is so bad that the most recent college graduates cannot recognize reality in front of them.

Marc Bloch – Misunderstanding of the present is the inevitable consequence of ignorance of the past.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 12, 2023 10:50 am

That “if” that is a middle finger to every sane NSW resident. I wonder if Ms Catley’s electorate is amused.

That’s not only questioning whether they feel unsafe, but denying them genuine reasons for feeling that way. Weak and cowardly doesn’t do her weakness and cowardice justice.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 12, 2023 10:51 am

The Yes campaign has focused most of its efforts on the ground game, having individual conversations with voters, partly because it believed that was the best way to win support but partly because it didn’t have the kind of funding needed to run a weeks-long advertising blitz.

Err, wut?
The Yes campaign has had a 40 foot container full of cash and has been advertising non-stop.

Roger
Roger
October 12, 2023 10:53 am

Advertising experts believe the Voice referendum will become a textbook study of how not to run a campaign

When politics is reduced to marketing a democracy is not in good health.

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